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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 2_ bonus EPISODE _ HOST Shanette W Johnson · DA CREW Podcast

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Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the Crew podcast. I am
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let's talk about it. Yeah, good, Ania, thank you for joining
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me on this evening. On tonight's episode of Let's Talk About It, I
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will be joined by the by Angela Thomas. Excuse me, Angela Thomas.
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She's a co founder of the Free Texas campaign. She also is the visionary
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of the podcast. She's also our author. Also what we join in us
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is Carnelle. He's currently incarcerated in Texas. He been incarcerated for the last
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past thirty three years on a room for conviction. So let's sit back,
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grab your favorite drink, and let's talk. Welcome Angela, Angela, are
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you there. He didn't want me to come out. Yeah, I'm here.
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I'm here. I'm here. It's always something. It's always something.
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But I tell you, when whenever you're about his business, the enemy is
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always busing. So thank you for having me again. I thank you for
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being the host of this show and bringing awareness to injustice that has taking place
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all over the United States, especially for bringing awareness to what's happening with your
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husband and allowing me to come on and share what's happening in the great old
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state of Texas. What's not going on. I tell you, I probably
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could write about twenty books about what is going on in the state of Texas.
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Everybody that followed me knows that I go hard about the state of Texas.
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I don't know how I got caught up with the State of Texas,
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but now I am involved, and I can't let it go because for the
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likes of me I can't sit by and see something that needs to be done
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and not do something. And I don't know how to write. In the
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State of Texas live with themselves, I don't know how they sleep it at
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night with the things that's taking place. You know, so many people that
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are wrongfully and overly incarcerated in the State of Texas, and then what is
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taking place within the TDCJ, within these facilities. It's unmane and it's just
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downright outrageous. But I thank God for the God that I serve. He
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is amazing and he has yet unturning things, bringing things to light. And
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it may not be moving as fast as some of us wanted to move,
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but God's time is always on time, and sometimes we have to go through
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some things in order for God to get some things together and to get some
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things right. Wow exact So yeah, I am Wow. Young lady say
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her nephew has been incarcerated since he was fourteen years old, guilty by association,
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and he's forty, he's in his forty. Yeah, that's a lot.
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That's a lot of what I've been hearing, especially with the cases that
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I hear in t d c J. Carnell is has been incarcerated for the
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last thirty three years, wrongfully incarcerated, and he can like tell you a
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lot of things that have been going on within the t d c J,
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within the judicial system. There is so much corruption in the state of Texas.
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So it's just it's just insane, Like I don't see for the lights
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of me. I listen to a lot of these cases, and I hear
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people talk about their cases, and I'm like, some of this stuff that
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people are locked up for, if they were in another state, they would
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have gotten probably house, a rest or weekend time or something where their lives
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wouldn't been so erupted and and so disrupted and and and then also color the
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color of their skin plays to me, it seems like it plays a part
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of the of the condiction as well. Well, we're gonna go back to
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we we we have to go back to slavery. It was just a transition
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from slavery, and to people realize that and understand that it was just another
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form of slavery. And if you follow the paper trail, you follow these
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trails, you follow these things, it's all gonna lead back to it's gonna
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lead back to slavery. You you you talk about the thirteenth Amendment, the
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the clause that they have in there that prisoners, that the servitude the free
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server two for if you break the law, if you become a prison then
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they can they can require you to work to pay off your to pay off
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your debt to society or whatever, which is just another form of slavery.
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And then you look at the amount of people that are incarcerated in the numbers.
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You look at the numbers, you look at who is behind these people,
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and you look at the numbers, and then you got to go back
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to and it's something that Patrice said on her shoulder other night. Well,
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we talk about education, we talk about you look at how they decide how
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they build prisons. They're already working on building thirty one prisons over the next
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what five six years? Yeah, I know, man, they get ready
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to build prisons, prisons that are billion dollar prisons. They talking about building
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prisons that's gonna be ran by robots, prisons that's gonna be this. I
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mean, what they are doing is it's just it's it's it's crazy. It's
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just crazy. But there's a lot that upon they put these these guys in
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prison, and then it's like they throw away the key. They they wrongfully
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convict them, or they falsify evidence and they get them in prison. And
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then they're telling them that they have to use the law, they have to
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go by this, they have to go by this, they have to be
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in this, they have to be in that. And then when they do
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that, then they always coming back with something. That's every every case that
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I'm here, I'm hearing people say that a judge said that they shouldn't be
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incarcerated. They shouldn't be this, they shouldn't be that that, this shouldn't
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be this, and this shouldn't be that. Well, if this is the
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case, then why won't you get up off your butt, you the judge,
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Why don't you get up off your butt and go and take it to
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the person that can do something about it. If y'all two come together,
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then y'all can do something about it. They're not. They're not. I
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had a mother tell me because her she has a son actually in Denver.
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When I was out there, a mother came up to me and she told
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me that the judge that presided over her son's case told him that he would
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never get out. He gonna make it where he never come home. And
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that's what they do. And then they they they they they. This is
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what happened to Cornell. This is this is what this is what has happened
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to him. And I'm gonna allow him to tell his story because he can
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upbody tell it like him. He he knowed, He's walked it out.
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He can do it it over the last thirty three years. As as much
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as I tell it, I can't tell it like him. Cornell, please
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share your story, introduce yourself and and and tell people about your story.
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I can't hear him years old, Wall, you can't hear him. No,
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I can't hear him. Oh, let me shut up? Can you
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hear me now? I can hear you now? Can you? Oh?
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Okay? My name is corn in San Antonio, Texas. I'm sixty two
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years old. I'm incatrabrated it in the past thirty three years from which is
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on Sabatonian six. I'm here for a party to the office of a murder
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and a delivery of a consoled suffice grandson. Secret. Okay, my conviction
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to wrong for the training for simple fact that you know all the evidence in
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this chase for Faber chasers from more stay goes my roof going to stuff my
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pallifics, the gun stuff the bid that Jason case is a white to furnaces
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because she n his white cheers on the fro the penal. She don't right
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from the penalty. So I upon the district attorney who the court room to
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be closed during fipacy. I'm the only American in the courtroom with chim white
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police officers standing behind me in the courtroom and the product of an all white
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jewelry that's on the delivery case I got from dicted the polite case, I
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got fifty five. Setting back to court again three months later, and the
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very same thing in court with another all white jury with the doors locked between
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two highly publicized capital murther crowns Okays didn't black so the jury. So again
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I was everything to feel on my case, come to learn, and no
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records ever one of the court appeal to a conviction. Well, now might
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have taken it upon myself to a thorough investigation and some of the case,
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but well, did I know my case is a part of an evidence six
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and jug donation da favoritism of bring Er racketeerans cantal which is all over the
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state cases this process has justice system and had said some people to PRIs the
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crown they didn't commit. And I'm talking about thousands and thousands of the man
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women the rights of the day commit Right now, we're dealing with a situation
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of a case right now for bird Old Delapoods. He was convicted in Houston,
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Texics now or found that he didn't commit. And since this time,
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you know, his family has fought hert just like our families have bought hard
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to try to get him the gunnery. But his case. But here in
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the state of Texas, I state Lstens leaders and I Texas representatives and our
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Texas governors, and then they do not care anything of Bautle justice money.
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She's absolutely right. This is a slavery state that because of that, the
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fountains of us in prison, because of the involuntary subvite that being incorporated and
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working for free in these prisman systems. Who can't get it. Why here
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in the state of Texas we have what you call a liven or seven and
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once you read it one time, you can't find anything else that which means
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that these people are in the evidence that theyre denign you. So when you
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do get the evidence, ain't usual it no more. But that's what you
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have to stay in prison for the rest of your life. The same with
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the juvenile opportunity. They did them the same. They will go away.
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These kids have to do forty years friends because they were friends and compete at
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juvenile So the atentions do not want to do anything to give them a release.
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Justice now, I think prism for three times now and I'm gonna do
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it justice, but this time belongs that the justice system. They go one
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joint operation. That's what I belonged, and like right now the commite.
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But he wants nothing to receive. So that's that's unbelievable. That's unbelievable.
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First you had yours. He didn't have a he Cornell said that he didn't
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have a jury of his peers and all. And that's what they do,
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that's what they have been doing. They bring people they they don't look like
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you, and and and what it and and the law says that you're supposed
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to have a a jury of your peers. That mean people that represent you,
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people that can connect with you. So if if I am, if
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I'm black, then there should be some black people on my jury. If
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I'm a giantic, there should be some Hispanic people on my jury. It
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should not be an all white jury. And and that's what they have been
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doing in the State of Texas, like the State of Texas have been doing
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a lot. They have been doing a lot that they should not be doing
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for real. And it's sad. They are corrupt. And it start with
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the gold It start with him, and it goes down. And this has
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been going on now three to four decades. You're heading into a fifth decade
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because it's been a long time. This man has been in office for a
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long time. You're talking about people that have been locked up. Now,
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I'm I'm man. This ain't ain't no ain't no joke. It's not a
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joke. It's not a joke with me. This and these are people that
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that I that I deal with on a on a day to day basis that
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that that called me that's locked up in the t c J. These people
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call me and tell me about their cases, every last one of them.
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If you listen to their story, it's a pattern. It is it's a
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pattern of corruption in the State of Texas. They evident they lied witnesses to
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lot, they have perjured, they've done all kinds of stuff, and then
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you bring it up, you bring it before them. Then they wanna they
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want to drop the time stamps. They want to say, oh, well,
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the time is past that. How if I'm innocent, How you do
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time expire on me being innocent? I'm always gonna be if I'm innocent,
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I'm always gonna be innocent. It shouldn't be an expiration on me being innocent.
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If I'm innocent and y'all no put me in prison and I'm innocent,
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then y'all should be setting me free. My thing is, if y'all y'all
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got these people up here, y'all say, y'all couldn't do nothing. Y'all
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couldn't reverse the charges. Y'all couldn't do nothing. Okay, so now you
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got them in prison, you can't reverse the charges. But you can.
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You can. You can let them go home, you can parole them out.
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You can let these people out now if you don't know. But they
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don't want to. They don't want to admit that they have wrong people.
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That's the issue, right, And then they think that they gonna they're gonna
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miss it out on money. Because if you look at it, I'm in
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all these different little groups. You look at it, follow the money trail
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that your governor, Your governor Texas, this man get a kickback of about
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fifty five thousand a year year from the prisonces that goes to his campaign.
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It is in black and white. I got it on a snapshot. Somebody
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posted it inside of a group and I got it. And he's not the
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only one. You You got people that elected officials that are getting money.
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I'm talking about that. It may not be a whole lot, but they
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are getting money and it shouldn't be happening. That is a conflict of interest.
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How how how can they be biased? When you you you got your
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hands in the cookie jar? How can you be biased? How can you
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be just? You cannot? It's okay because the one at us I'm telling
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you, I'm writing I'm in school. Everybody that follow me and support the
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platform, No, I'm in school. I'm working on my master's and I'm
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taking a leadership and organizational behavior class. And we had to pick an organization
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to write about and to talk about things that they are failing in and things
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that can be fixed and how to fix it and offer solutions. Man,
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y'all know I wrote on TDCJ. Yeah, y'all, y'all know I wrote
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on TDJ and the parole ard. Okay, So the first paper I actually
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turned it in like I didn't get all of the points, but hey,
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I made a a. How about that? I made an a on it?
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So the second one, how about I get all the points? And
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my teacher told me, he said, you should be a consultant for them.
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Huh, I should be a consultant for TDCJ. Huh figure that.
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So I'm writing my papers and and they can't say that these are lies because
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guess what, Huh, my teacher make us turn in our sources. We
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have to turn in our sources. We had to turn in our stuff what
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we do our research from. And baby, they don't play with plagiarism.
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So guess what, Huh, it's gotta be fat, And it's it's gotta
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be fat. I say, when when this class is over and done with,
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I'm about to print this. I'm about to put I'm about to publish
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these papers, and I'm about to go throw it on the on on on
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the Senate flow. I'm about to hear have goohmh, this, this is
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what y'all need. This is what y'all need right here, because it's that
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it's not roll down the parole board, it's not broke down all that foolishness.
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But see what has happened is they start out with giving these individuals what
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you call pay the attorneys public or or whatever they call them. They got
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all kind of names from them, but they give him quarter pointed attorneys that
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are corrupt from the beginning. They they got something in the pot. Yeah,
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that's what happened to my dad. So then when when they started,
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we have mister h Adela Cruz with his daughter her firing on a wrong for
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conviction. He been in there for twenty six years. He they say he
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committed a murder. Can you give us some more in like case, I
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think one of the one of the biggest things. And I and I hear
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y'all talk, and and you know, I wonder why things like that happened,
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because in my dad's case, we have gone through his transcript I don't
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know how many times, like a lot of that stuff we've memorized, and
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I just don't understand how you have people that you know are in the court
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system, and they can read this and they see that it's lies and it's
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not adding up, but yet they choose to ignore it or not even want
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to give them another trial. You know, my dad, he has been
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there for twenty six years and from from the day that they killed this man,
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my dad has never known this guy. He's always said the same thing,
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I don't know him. I didn't see him that day. And so
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the way it's on police department did is they grabbed two informants, which is
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is is the same for a lot of these cases. You know, they
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go pick up these crackheads that you know, have committed crimes and they get
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away with them because you know what their informants for them, so when they
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need them, they use them. And this is what happened to my dad.
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He had two informants, one of them being my ex brother in law,
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and you know, they used them fabricate a story against my dad.
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We didn't know about this story until seven months later. My brother in law
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had signed a statement saying that he was with my father whenever they killed mister
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Jorge Panya, and we didn't find out until seven months later. And that's
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because the detectives took a statement from my brother in law to my dad showing
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him, look here, even your own son in law signed a statement saying
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that you killed this guy. So when we find out about it, you
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know, we start talking as a family, we start talking to attorneys.
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And so when they fabricated that case, their story was that my dad had
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stopped at a little store here in Baytown and shot the guy one time in
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the face. There was no altercation there. My dad basically went up to
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this guy that he didn't even know and just shot him in the face.
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And so when that happened, it just conveniently happened that my ex brother in
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law fainted and the other guy lifted up this man that was probably two hundred
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and sixty two hundred and seventy pounds, put him in my dad's car,
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and they went and dumped him in a secluded area here in Baytown. That
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area was secluded. Not a lot of people knew about that area. So
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if you knew where you were going, you were you know, you knew
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what you were doing. So whenever they dumped this guy's body out there,
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per the police department, you know, they dumped the body and they left.
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Well, the Baytown Police Department's own medical examiner. Their medical examiner contradicted
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their own story, saying that whenever this man was murdered, where he was
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murdered, that's where he was, where they found him, that's where he
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was murdered. That body was never moved. And another thing that contradicted their
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story was that this man didn't have one gunshot wound. He had two.
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They shot him with a three p fifty seven magnum in the face and then
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when he was on the floor, he shot him again on the head.
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So another thing about this case is that whenever this man died, he fell
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face forward and his hand was in his pocket. So whenever they found the
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body, his hand was still in his pocket. You know, this body
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was moved, why was his hand still in his pocket? You know,
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So that right, there was a lie. They lied about that, and
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so we've always you know, reading the transcript and going through everything. The
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last person that saw him alive was his actual brother in law. His brother
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in law picked him up from you know, his home and took him to
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a store to go buy beer. If I'm not mistaken. The Beato Police
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Department looked at the cameras they never saw him go into a store and buy
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beer. That was a lie. And so supposedly the guy said, you
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know, I took him to the store to go get beer, dropped him
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off at home, and went my way. But this man here, his
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ex brother in law or his brother in law, he committed suicide two years
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later on Christmas Day with a three fifty seven gun, you know, like,
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we think it's the same gun. He committed suicide with the murder weapon.
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And so we asked to bring that gun here to Houston so that we
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could get that gun tested, and they wouldn't let us get our own independent
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person to check the gun. They said they would do it. They checked
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it, and they said that it could be the gun, but they weren't
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going to say that it was. So here we have a murder weapon because
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this man committed suicide two years later, you know, he shot himself,
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never said anything. And here we think we have a murder weapon, but
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no one is helping us. Like everything is there, but everyone just kind
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of looks the other way, like I don't know, like you know,
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I know my dad is innos one hundred percent. They know my dad is
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innocent. We've had at the end of my dad's trial. The judge that
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was standing in even said, I cannot believe y'all found this man guilty based
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on this witness. Like that's how bad our witness that they had was.
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You know, this guy's answers were like, I don't know, I don't
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remember, I don't know. You know, it was just all lies.
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And so my brother in law actually said that he wanted to, you know,
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you know, go out and support my dad and tell him that he
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was forced because my brother in law has always said that the Beeton Police Department
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forced him to sign that statement saying that my sister was going to get deported,
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she was going to have her baby in Mexico. And when my brother
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they're in law, wanted to go and talk to the district attorney and let
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her know, you know, that this is what happened, they didn't want
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to use him anymore. They didn't care to hear about them. They only
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used the one witness that said that he was with my dad whenever they killed
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this man, which is a lie. You know it's a lie, but
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no one is listening to us. Did I have a question when you're you
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said the witness, did he identify your father in some type of lineup or
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how did they how did they get to the How did your father get involved?
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You know, that's what I want to know. How did he get
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identified? My father was brought in to this case by two detectives, Raoul
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Pina Hosh. I'm sorry, Raoul Budd and Renee he know hos Uh Why
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they picked my dad out? I don't know, you know, I don't
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know. I feel like they just wanted to close the case and they needed
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someone and they used these guys to close it because my dad didn't know the
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guy. You know, I don't know why my dad was picked out from
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anyone, you know what I mean? That remind that that reminded me of
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similar that's a similar case, like my husband's case he's in. He's currently
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in Denver and actually I'm gonna have him come back to the and talk because
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we had got a piece of news today that the main detective that was over
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his case has been arrest was arrested for impersonating the officer since he done retired
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and he pulled a gun on someone. So now he's facing a felony telling
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the charges for that, and they also looking into his cases because he fabri
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falsified. He fabricated some of some of his cases as well. So you
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know, it's just all over the the state. I hear the same thing
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with everybody, you know, and we we have to speech up. We
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have to speech up to and when our family members are away from us,
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when they're in that prediction, we have to make sure that they're okay.
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Yes, like you know, we just got to make sure is that they're
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okay. Is your dad is is he on? Angela? Can you hear
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me? Angela? Yeah? I think he's flling it now. Yeah,
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you know, and they don't be They don't see everything that we go through,
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you know, like the cry and the suffering. My dad hasn't been
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in our life for over twenty six years. You know, he's he has
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so many grandkids that he's you know, he meets them now, but because
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we take them. But they don't realize the impact that this has had on
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our family. You know, Like whenever they arrested my dad, the cops
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were they and it was it was crazy because they set up like this sting
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and we couldn't find my mom and that the whole time they had her like
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at another area and my mom is so scared of the cops now because they
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were choking her, calling her a bitch, you know, like it's like
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they set up this whole thing. So these are cops that are doing this
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to, you know, to my mom, and so she's so afraid of
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cops now with that incident that happened to her. And and they don't realize
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like the impact that this has. And you know, I feel like this
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these are things that we see in a movie that we feel like, oh
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my god, you know, but we're going through it, and people don't
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understand how hard it is that you're going through it. And you know that
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your dad is innocent, and we can't do anything because nobody's listening to us,
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you know, and and seeing him cry and hearing him today like crying
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like that just breaks her heart, you know, because we don't know what
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to do, you know, let him go like it's innocent. Have he
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like fout any emotions with the course he did he got I'm sorry, I
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can't really hear y'all. How far have you gotten in a like with his
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emotions? How far did he reached the didn't he reached the supreme court level?
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Yet? If I'm not mistaken. He has reached the highest court and
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they have denied everything to the point where like if I'm not mistaken, like
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there's nothing else we can do for my bad at a point where like,
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wow, Cornell, I want to say something. Set and your dad is
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standing by him, if y'all want him to come home, I want to
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say something. Go ahead, Cornell, Okay, okay, yeah, I
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can hear you. Okay, yeah, yes, that's my bast I see
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I can hear you. Go ahead. Yeah. They want if you wanted
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to say something. We're talking about your case, so she wanted to bring
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you on to see if you wanted to say something. Oh, nobody problem
35:29
why I think it's buggy, But I say, I think you don't say
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you know, but you don't know, so they corrupt you by that.
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For me, but the people I was by and on both side and sogging,
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I think, I don't think there's some people I want to know.
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You can't hear him, No, I can barely hearing. I can barely
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hearing. I kind of understand what what he what he's said. You know,
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the last part I heard was that, you know, he he said
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he wants to come home. He said he wants to come home. He's
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been in here too many years. He's said he wants to see his kids.
36:45
He said he wants to see his daughter, he wants to see his
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grandkids. He wants to be home. And I can hear it in his
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Yeah, yeah, I can hear the tears, I can hear the hurt,
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I can hear the pain. I can hear it in his voice.
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I heard it earlier today. And it's sad. It's sad to me.
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It make tears come to my heart because these people, they know that these
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people are innocent, and they have the documentation is in black and white that
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they people have investigated, people have said, I mean, it's not just
37:20
one person. People over and over and over are saying the same thing,
37:24
that this man is innocent, but they will not do anything. And the
37:29
judge, the judge said it. If the judge can say it, then
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the judge can do something about it. They need to get up. But
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don't nobody want to go against the next person. Don't nobody want to go
37:42
against the next person. So they afraid that they exposed this, then they're
37:45
gonna uncover something else, and then something else is gonna be uncovered. And
37:50
then it's gonna just be a dumbino thing. But sooner or later it has
37:53
to come out because just what you keep brushing it under the ruck up,
37:58
the rug is gonna start getting high and eventually people gonna start tripping over that
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rug because guess what, it ain't gonna You can brush it under there,
38:07
but it ain't going nowhere. It's just stacking right, and it's just getting
38:10
higher and higher and higher. Eventually it's gonna have to come to a resolve.
38:15
It's gonna have to come to a nip in the bug. And guess
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what I'm that because I'm not. I can't do it. I can't sit
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by and see these innocent people that they've taken, these people lives. What
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this man is seventy years old? What what y'all can y'all can give him?
38:39
Parole, y'all gonna messed up his life. Let him go home,
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y'all send y'all can't y'all can't reverse it, y'all can't go back. Okay,
38:45
well, parole, hold let him go home. You can do that.
38:50
You got the power to do that. The governor got to the power.
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He can make an executive order and he can send that man home.
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They don't want to. That's what they leading it. They the head of
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it. They got they got man, They got their hands all in it.
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Ye corrupt. You know, followed the paper trick. You followed the
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paper trick. Yes, yes, well, I really thank you ladies for
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joining me on tonight. And and mister Cornell and mister Dela Cruz. My
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heart goes out to both of you, guys, and I'm praying for you
39:38
guys, and hope we're praying that someone is watching this that can help them.
39:45
You know, we're an election year, people, we elect these judges,
39:53
the d A. We elect all of them to these offices. They
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promise us things and they don't follow through. Before you go to them the
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polls to vote, do your research on these people that we're putting in the
40:12
office, from the president all the way down, because this is gonna affect
40:17
This is gonna keep on, and it's going to affect the generation that's coming
40:22
up. It's going to affect them. You're removing the fathers out of the
40:28
homes, the mothers out of the homes with with these false charges. Falter
40:39
I looked at the innocent mass conspiration. That's what it is master consperration,
40:44
just another form of slavery. I'm not gonna let it go. It's it's
40:47
just another form of slavery. These people just fouled the way that they can
40:51
do it openly, openly, and and and they sit back. They had
40:55
to come up with something if they was coming out of slavery. That's if
41:00
you think about it, think about it, when when slavery was ended and
41:04
and and they was holding on, they didn't want to let go. These
41:07
people were holding on. Why they were they was coming up with these plans,
41:12
That's why they they didn't have they they were still people was free and
41:15
they were still slaves and didn't know they was free because guess what, they
41:19
weren't trying to let you know that you was free, because they were trying
41:22
to figure out how they can devise a plan to keep you in bung just
41:25
your little longer. So they were that's when they was coming up with the
41:28
welfare, They was coming up with the Section eight, They was coming up
41:30
with the housing projects. They was coming up with all this stuff to devise
41:35
all of us brown people. And if you and they didn't care what nationality,
41:40
if you wentn't white, they didn't care nothing about you, and you
41:49
talking. You better know the history of these prisons and why these prisons were
41:52
set up. Why they set up prisons, because that's when what they was
41:57
called in the beginning, And and you think about what they what the purpose
42:01
of them was for. That was a house runaway slaves. That's what it
42:06
was for, the house runaway slaves. And then you talk about how they
42:09
housing these people. They putting these people in warehouses. That's what they're doing.
42:13
You asked, you ask anybody what these prisons look like now? Warehouses?
42:16
They say, we just in a warehouse. They're doing they're just putting.
42:22
They're just throwing these throwing the people in there. They're not feeding them.
42:25
They putting them on these steel bumps. They don't even get these people
42:30
pillows. They don't have pillows. They give you one sheet. They freezing
42:36
you in the winter time, burning you up, and in the summer time,
42:39
like these people they you you may not even have a life sentence,
42:44
but they're trying to kill you because they're not trying to rehabilitate you. They're
42:46
not trying to send you home. And it's sad because I get phone calls
42:52
every day, every other day, I'm getting a phone call or e message
42:57
from somebody telling me about something that's going on out of these prisons. I
43:00
received phone calls last week. Somebody a G folk killed the G two.
43:07
This this is happening in the prison, says and do we hear about this?
43:10
Did you know this happened? Miss Irene? Did you know this was
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going on? See a lot of people know this was going on. I
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posted it in a group in a group and somebody said, oh no,
43:22
I didn't know that happened. That happened. You know, I got somebody
43:25
in the jail building. You know, people not knowing what's going on.
43:30
You got people overdosing on drugs and then they move in the body and keep
43:37
getting high. And then the people in charge, the officers, see this
43:42
and do nothing about it. You're supposed to report this, did nothing about
43:45
it, so you don't want to report it. So I report it.
43:49
And every time they every time somebody called me, every time somebody messaged me,
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honey, I don't got I don't got good at writing letters. I'm
43:59
talking I'm gonna be a professional letter writer after awhile, because I don't got
44:02
good at writing letters and sending them to send them in a boat. Email
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everybody, and can't nobody say they didn't know, because I copied everybody everybody,
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So don't say you didn't. Don't say you didn't know. The war
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know all of them know. So when they when when when it hit the
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fans. Can't nobody say they didn't know. Tell you they The San Antonio
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Food Bank donated food to the prisoners. You got officers taking food home,
44:37
and then what they didn't want to take home, they were giving it to
44:40
the officers that worked that I mean the inmates that worked in the kitchen.
44:45
And then they was trying to sell it to the other inmates black market.
44:49
They was putting it on the black market, cause some friction within in the
44:52
prison. Instead of providing and maintaining an environment that is se in an environment
45:00
that that that that is calm and peaceful, that they causing a hostile environment
45:07
by keeping these inmates at each other and in competition and acting like they got
45:14
nephutism and favoritism going on because you provide him for one cent and I provided
45:21
him for the other. That's not fair and that's causing problems. And then
45:23
you think about the people that's in there. I interviewed that, y'all.
45:27
One day, this guy said he was supposed to be doing for four years,
45:30
y'all, four years. Four years turned into fifty years. How can
45:37
you send somebody to prison for four years and then he get a taste for
45:42
something that he didn't even do because a riot broke out somewhere he was at
45:47
the facility. They gave everybody at the facility, even if you wouldn't involved,
45:52
you got a charge. So now he went from four years to fifty
45:55
years. And then you think about all these people that that that that ain't
46:01
doing nothing that's innocent. Now, I'm telling you, out of all these
46:07
people that's on this on this list, I can tell you probably about five
46:12
of them actually said that they did their crime. The rest of these people
46:15
are innocent. The rest of these people have been wrongfully and overly incarcerated.
46:24
One of these people are sleeping. Our time is fish run out here and
46:34
do what they want. They enjoy their families, and all of these people
46:37
that are wrongfully and overly incarcerated, they're missing out on milestones that they're missing
46:43
out on things that are happening. They're losing loved ones and not getting to
46:49
say goodbye. It's sad. It's sad that the government can do and there's
46:55
nothing that we can do about it. H woa whoa wow. This this
47:04
has been a I really enjoyed our conversation on this evening. Really been an
47:12
eye opener. What's going on in Texas and it's just going on everywhere,
47:16
but it's fins everything is fins to be exposed. Irene, thank you for
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joining me this evening. And anytime you want to talk you want to keep
47:27
your father case out there, You're more than welcome to come back and we
47:31
can always talk talk about it. Anything new come up, you know,
47:37
let us know what's going on. What would you like for the listening audience
47:45
to do? What? You know, how can we assist with your dad?
47:49
Is there chain dot org up? I would like for, you know,
47:54
for for everyone to see your story and from this, God willing,
48:00
someone will offer advice, you know, let us know what we can do.
48:07
Someone can help, you know, pick up my dad's case, like
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or just kind of even guide us to what is the next step for us,
48:15
because at this point, like we're just we don't know what to do.
48:20
We've lost all hope and and you know, We really appreciate y'all exposing
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this because we don't know what else to do, you know, and there's
48:28
a reason why God put us here today, so that y'all could, you
48:34
know, let this go out and hopefully from this someone can help us,
48:38
because we don't know what else to do. You know, my dad,
48:42
if we don't help him, he's gonna die in that prison. And he's
48:45
innocent, and you know, I just want him home. I want him.
48:51
It's time, like they've had him in there all this time. They
48:53
know he's innocent, and they're not helping, you know. So I'm hoping
48:58
that from this someone will guide us, you know, they'll they'll show us
49:02
what it is we can do. And we're not gonna lose hope, you
49:06
know, we're We're never gonna lose hope. God is good and I know
49:08
that, you know, my dad will have his freedom one day, Yes
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he will. Just we're just gonna hold on and we're gonna be praying for
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your dad. Miss Angela. Is always a pleasure seeing you and talking with
49:23
you, and thank you, thank you for coming out. Thank you mister
49:30
Cornell and mister Dela Cruz for joining us. Remember you guys, we it's
49:36
time for us to vote. M We're gonna hold them accounta vote. We're
49:43
gonna do our research on everyone that's up to vote, because we got our
49:49
children and grand well our grandchildren to think about. We don't want them in
49:57
getting accused of something that they didn't do. Ye yep, join me here
50:01
every first and third Monday of the month. Next Monday, Next Monday,
50:08
I will have Glenn Kemp with me. He's currently incarcerated in Denver. They
50:16
sentenced him to one hundred and ninety two years on the wrong for conviction.
50:23
Please join me next week. Remember, speak up even if your voice gets
50:34
shaky. Have a blessed night and see you next Monday. Thank you,
50:40
you're welcome. You walcome. And this is crazy. Let's talk about it
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