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- 0:10Speaker 1: Hey, what's up, everybody? Welcome into another edition of the
- 0:12Speaker 1: check Odaily. It's Andrew Tocheco, Eagles beat reporter for Inside
- 0:16Speaker 1: the Birds dot Com. The Eagles and Commanders play Sunday
- 0:19Speaker 1: afternoon at four twenty five and link in financial Field.
- 0:22Speaker 1: But it's gonna have a little bit of a different look.
- 0:24Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot of reserves and backup
- 0:28Speaker 1: type of players that you don't ordinarily see who are
- 0:32Speaker 1: gonna be stepping into prominent roles in this game. I
- 0:35Speaker 1: mentioned how earlier in the week it was determined that
- 0:37Speaker 1: the Eagles were going to rest key starters, But that's
- 0:40Speaker 1: not to say that players that are household names won't
- 0:43Speaker 1: be dressing. In the NFL these days, you are required
- 0:47Speaker 1: to dress a certain amount of players. It's not like
- 0:49Speaker 1: the preseason where teams have ninety man rosters. And so
- 0:53Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really curious to see how the Eagles
- 0:55Speaker 1: choose to deploy their their players, and if they do
- 0:59Speaker 1: have to play someone like maybe a Moro Jomo, for example.
- 1:03Speaker 2: How much will they play.
- 1:05Speaker 1: So I look at the offensive line and I kind
- 1:07Speaker 1: of look at it through the lens of I could
- 1:09Speaker 1: see Fred Johnson playing left tackle, Matt Pryor starting at
- 1:13Speaker 1: right tackle, then you have Brett Toth at left guard.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Tyler Steen may have to start.
- 1:18Speaker 1: It's another player who may have to start at right guard,
- 1:21Speaker 1: and then Drew Kendall the rookie playing center, and then
- 1:24Speaker 1: eventually you could see Matt Pryor give way to Cameron Williams,
- 1:28Speaker 1: who was activated to the fifty three man roster after
- 1:32Speaker 1: having his twenty one day window opened and nearly expired.
- 1:35Speaker 1: He's on the fifty three. But I don't know if
- 1:37Speaker 1: you want to start Cameron Williams in this game. He's
- 1:39Speaker 1: never played in an NFL game. If you're trying to
- 1:43Speaker 1: build an earlier type of lead, I don't know that
- 1:46Speaker 1: you want him manning the right tackle position to start
- 1:49Speaker 1: the game. With Tanner McKee back there and an offense
- 1:52Speaker 1: that does have some talent, you want to ideally move
- 1:56Speaker 1: the football, generate a lead, and then get your rookie
- 1:59Speaker 1: six round pick some snaps, because I think that's the
- 2:02Speaker 1: probably the best case scenario. But because of all that,
- 2:05Speaker 1: I look at Tyler Stem probably having to start this game.
- 2:08Speaker 1: That's just my initial thought going into it. But there's
- 2:11Speaker 1: a number of players that I'm really looking forward to seeing,
- 2:14Speaker 1: and I start with quarterback Tanner McKee, who the last
- 2:17Speaker 1: time we saw him last season play meaningful snaps. In
- 2:21Speaker 1: the last two games he can bind for thirty completions
- 2:24Speaker 1: on thirty to forty five pass completions.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Three hundred and twenty three yards, four touchdowns.
- 2:29Speaker 1: The offense was rhythmic, It wasn't overly complex, but it
- 2:33Speaker 1: was pretty appealing from a pass game perspective.
- 2:37Speaker 2: I would expect a lot of that in.
- 2:39Speaker 1: This game, with his primary receivers being Johan Dotson and
- 2:44Speaker 1: Darius Cooper. Of course, they have Grant kal Katara and
- 2:48Speaker 1: Kylon Granton at tight end, two players that have played
- 2:52Speaker 1: a lot of football, So he has players to move
- 2:55Speaker 1: the football with. He's worked a lot with them in practice,
- 2:58Speaker 1: especially Dotson and Darius Cooper. So one would think that
- 3:03Speaker 1: the passing game shouldn't look as disjointed as one might
- 3:06Speaker 1: think because these are players who Tanner has repped with
- 3:09Speaker 1: a lot. I talked about Tanner's ability to get rid
- 3:11Speaker 1: of the football quickly. He doesn't hold the ball, and
- 3:14Speaker 1: he throws with timing and touch, and he's a quick processor,
- 3:18Speaker 1: and so this is a big game for him, if
- 3:21Speaker 1: for no other reason then to put quality tape out
- 3:23Speaker 1: there and maybe entice a team to take a deeper
- 3:26Speaker 1: look at him in the postseason with some more recent tape.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Two players at running back that I really want to see,
- 3:34Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby and Will Shipley. Tank Bigsby has done some
- 3:38Speaker 1: nice things when his number has been called upon. He's
- 3:40Speaker 1: Saquon Barkleay's immediate backup. He runs tough, he has a
- 3:43Speaker 1: creative running style, and he runs with a lot of energy,
- 3:47Speaker 1: and sometimes he creates his own holes. But I would
- 3:50Speaker 1: also say temporary expectations in this game don't necessarily don't
- 3:53Speaker 1: necessarily think that Tank Bigsby's going to rip off one
- 3:56Speaker 1: hundred yards because he will be running behind a group
- 4:00Speaker 1: of reserve offensive lineman and sometimes, as we've seen in
- 4:03Speaker 1: the preseason, that doesn't necessarily equal a huge rushing output.
- 4:07Speaker 1: But I want to see him get more opportunities and
- 4:10Speaker 1: see what he can do with it. In terms of Shipley,
- 4:13Speaker 1: I think he's going to catch a flurr of passes
- 4:15Speaker 1: in this game.
- 4:15Speaker 2: Going into the season, I thought that he was going
- 4:17Speaker 2: to be.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Have much more of a role offensively, especially as a receiver,
- 4:23Speaker 1: having seen him be so involved in training camp catching
- 4:26Speaker 1: those wheel routs and Jalen Hurts was peppering him with
- 4:28Speaker 1: targets in the flat, and for whatever reason, it just
- 4:31Speaker 1: didn't materialize in the regular season and Will has been
- 4:34Speaker 1: relegated to special teams mostly. He's the Eagle's third down
- 4:37Speaker 1: running back, and I would kind of expect Will to
- 4:40Speaker 1: be the third down running back in this game. With
- 4:42Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby handling first and second down. Not much changing there,
- 4:46Speaker 1: but I think that they're going to make an effort
- 4:47Speaker 1: to get Will the football and get him some of
- 4:50Speaker 1: those opportunities because he can create a mismatch as a
- 4:53Speaker 1: receiver and you get him in space, he has a
- 4:55Speaker 1: lot of juice there. But that's another player that I
- 4:58Speaker 1: think is going to give Eagles fans a reason to
- 5:03Speaker 1: watch this game. I think Will is going to score
- 5:05Speaker 1: his first regular season touchdown in this one. I told
- 5:08Speaker 1: him that this week. It's just a sense I get.
- 5:10Speaker 1: I think with the opportunities he's going to get, it
- 5:12Speaker 1: makes it all the more feasible. Tight End full back
- 5:17Speaker 1: Cameron Latsu is another player who I've talked about in
- 5:19Speaker 1: this podcast. I've talked to Cam quite a bit this year,
- 5:23Speaker 1: and I just really enjoyed those conversations with him.
- 5:27Speaker 2: It brings a lot of energy.
- 5:28Speaker 1: He's physical, and the Eagles haven't really used him as
- 5:31Speaker 1: a tight end. He's been primarily used as a full
- 5:33Speaker 1: back where he's only getting five to seven snaps a game,
- 5:36Speaker 1: and he's been a special teams demon. But I wonder
- 5:39Speaker 1: in this game if the Eagles will find a way
- 5:40Speaker 1: to get him some reps at tight end and have
- 5:43Speaker 1: him run some routes and maybe he's able to pick
- 5:46Speaker 1: up his first NFL reception. It'd be really cool to
- 5:49Speaker 1: see him reach the end zone if that's able to happen,
- 5:51Speaker 1: because of the celebration potential that he has there.
- 5:56Speaker 2: This is a guy who I wrote about last week
- 5:59Speaker 2: in one of my.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Stories in my notebook about the handshakes that he has
- 6:04Speaker 1: with teammates. His energy is infectious and he's just somebody
- 6:08Speaker 1: that has been such a revelation, a positive influence in
- 6:12Speaker 1: the locker room. And I think I know that he
- 6:15Speaker 1: has a pretty strong rapport throughout and he seems to
- 6:18Speaker 1: be very well liked, and I think I'm curious to
- 6:22Speaker 1: see what he's able to do in a more expanded role.
- 6:25Speaker 1: So Camlotto would be another player, And then I look
- 6:27Speaker 1: at the offensive line. There's Drew Kendall, the rookie center
- 6:31Speaker 1: from Boston College who has made notable strides this season
- 6:35Speaker 1: talking to different people, and he's been a close friend.
- 6:40Speaker 1: He is a close friend, and he's been an understudy
- 6:42Speaker 1: to Brett Toath. They should be playing together alongside one another,
- 6:45Speaker 1: I should.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Say all game long.
- 6:47Speaker 1: And I think that chemistry off the field and even
- 6:49Speaker 1: on the field on the practice field should be able
- 6:52Speaker 1: to help. But these are going to be Drew Kendall's
- 6:55Speaker 1: first meaningful snaps playing offensive line, so it's important to
- 6:58Speaker 1: keep that in mind.
- 6:59Speaker 2: But I am curious.
- 7:00Speaker 1: To see how he's going to fare in a large
- 7:03Speaker 1: opportunity here.
- 7:04Speaker 2: So he's somebody I'll be king in on. He wears
- 7:06Speaker 2: number sixty six.
- 7:07Speaker 1: And Brett Toath is another player who when he had
- 7:09Speaker 1: to step in and start against the Packers, when he
- 7:12Speaker 1: had to step in and start against the New York Giants,
- 7:14Speaker 1: he performed well. He does well on those pin and
- 7:17Speaker 1: poll type of blocks. He's a veteran, he's in a
- 7:19Speaker 1: seventh NFL season, highly intelligent, one of the smartest players
- 7:23Speaker 1: in that Eagles locker room. He's been a very positive
- 7:27Speaker 1: influence on the younger lineman, which is a story that
- 7:30Speaker 1: I wrote about this year. Whether it was Jake Majors
- 7:32Speaker 1: who's on the practice squad, whether it was Drew Kendall,
- 7:35Speaker 1: Holland Pearce who's also on the practice squad.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Brett does.
- 7:39Speaker 1: He serves an invaluable role in the Philadelphia Eagles that
- 7:42Speaker 1: I don't think gets talked about enough. But he'll have
- 7:45Speaker 1: another opportunity to get his start this season, and this
- 7:48Speaker 1: will be his third of this season. You can make
- 7:51Speaker 1: the argument there's been points this season where he's performed
- 7:54Speaker 1: better than Cam Jurgens.
- 7:55Speaker 2: There's reasons for that.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Obviously, Cam Jurgens is clearly not operating at one hundred percent.
- 8:00Speaker 1: But I think a lot of fans were really harsh
- 8:03Speaker 1: on Brett before he really had an opportunity to step
- 8:05Speaker 1: in there leading into that Giants game, and he made
- 8:08Speaker 1: a lot of people eat their words. But I want
- 8:11Speaker 1: to see what he can do in another opportunity here,
- 8:13Speaker 1: playing with a lot of players on that offensive line
- 8:16Speaker 1: who haven't who don't have a lot of NFL experience.
- 8:20Speaker 2: Moving on to.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Wide receiver, I think Darius Cooper is going to have
- 8:26Speaker 1: the breakout game of all the Eagles I think you're
- 8:30Speaker 1: going to look back and say that this was the
- 8:32Speaker 1: Darius Cooper game. Cooper is really good after the catch.
- 8:35Speaker 1: He's strong, he's a good blocker, he's tough, and his
- 8:39Speaker 1: role has grown throughout the season. It's very evident the
- 8:41Speaker 1: Eagles have a lot of trust and confidence in Darius
- 8:44Speaker 1: and they are pleased with his development behind the scenes,
- 8:47Speaker 1: and I think that's been evidenced and reflected in his
- 8:51Speaker 1: role throughout the year.
- 8:52Speaker 2: It's evolved.
- 8:53Speaker 1: But he also had a really good connection with Tanner
- 8:58Speaker 1: McKee in training camp and in the preseason and when
- 9:01Speaker 1: he's had his opportunities this season. I think he has
- 9:03Speaker 1: six catches for fifty nine yards.
- 9:06Speaker 2: He's made the most of it.
- 9:07Speaker 1: So I think he's going to be targeted heavily in
- 9:09Speaker 1: this one, and it wouldn't surprise me if he scores
- 9:11Speaker 1: his first NFL touchdown. Defensively, I look at the defensive line.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Ty Robinson is a player who I know I've gotten
- 9:22Speaker 1: a ton of questions about. He's going to play the
- 9:25Speaker 1: most snaps in his career to date, obviously, and it's
- 9:28Speaker 1: going to be Ty Robinson and Byron Young handling most
- 9:31Speaker 1: of those interior defensive lineman snaps, but specifically, I'm looking
- 9:35Speaker 1: at outside linebacker Josh Yusche, who I thought performed well
- 9:38Speaker 1: in a rotational role, wasn't flashy, picked up a sack
- 9:41Speaker 1: against the Vikings. He's been working on his power rushes,
- 9:44Speaker 1: which are conversations than he and I have had throughout
- 9:47Speaker 1: the season when I would visit his locker. Very enjoyable
- 9:50Speaker 1: conversations with Josh throughout the year, and he's been inactive
- 9:54Speaker 1: for a number of weeks now, especially when the Eagles
- 9:57Speaker 1: got Brandon Graham. Vic Fangio doesn't typically rotate a lot
- 9:59Speaker 1: of rushers, and Josh probably wasn't strong enough on special
- 10:03Speaker 1: teams or impactful enough to warrant a game day spot,
- 10:08Speaker 1: but he's gonna see a ton of snaps in this one.
- 10:10Speaker 1: The twenty seven year old has. He's in a contract year,
- 10:13Speaker 1: so he has an opportunity to really open the eyes
- 10:17Speaker 1: of different teams around the NFL, or even maybe the
- 10:20Speaker 1: Eagles to try and keep a cost effective option in house.
- 10:25Speaker 1: But Josh Uche, someone who wouldn't surprise me, picks up
- 10:29Speaker 1: another sack in this game, maybe even too. Laramie Tunsel,
- 10:32Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders star left tackle, was not playing in
- 10:35Speaker 1: this game, and Washington's offensive line's not bad, but the
- 10:39Speaker 1: Eagles were able to generate pressure in the previous matchup
- 10:42Speaker 1: just a couple of weeks ago. And I think Josh
- 10:45Speaker 1: is going to play in this game with a chip
- 10:46Speaker 1: on his shoulder and try to really maximize the time
- 10:50Speaker 1: that he's out there on the field, knowing that the
- 10:53Speaker 1: opportunities have been few.
- 10:54Speaker 2: And far between this season.
- 10:56Speaker 1: At linebacker, Jeremiah Trotter Junior is ripe or a double
- 11:01Speaker 1: digit tackle afternoon.
- 11:02Speaker 2: He can absolutely play.
- 11:04Speaker 1: He's just sort of been at the mercy of the
- 11:07Speaker 1: players in front of him, because this is a player
- 11:10Speaker 1: who garnered a ton of first team reps in training camp,
- 11:14Speaker 1: and the opportunities haven't been there in the regular season,
- 11:18Speaker 1: especially when the Kobe Dean entered the fold coming back
- 11:21Speaker 1: from injury, Johan Campbell being the first round pick. But
- 11:24Speaker 1: it's not a slight at all on Trodder Junior, who
- 11:26Speaker 1: had a good training camp, who is an instinctual player
- 11:29Speaker 1: who can get downhill and he's really good at closing
- 11:32Speaker 1: in on ball carriers, reading and diagnosing. Maybe doesn't have
- 11:35Speaker 1: the overwhelming athleticism that you look at for that position,
- 11:40Speaker 1: but there's so many things that he does well and
- 11:43Speaker 1: another opportunity. He's been one of their best special teams
- 11:46Speaker 1: players all season. Him and Kylon Grantson are tied for
- 11:49Speaker 1: eighteen tackles, which is very high among the NFL's special
- 11:52Speaker 1: team tackler leading tackler lists, and I think he's going
- 11:56Speaker 1: to have a really big one in this game. Mimile Monden,
- 12:01Speaker 1: the rookie fourth round linebacker out of Georgia, hasn't played
- 12:06Speaker 1: barely any defensive snaps, if any defensive snaps this year.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Don't have the numbers in front of me.
- 12:11Speaker 1: But I think when I go back to what I
- 12:15Speaker 1: saw from him in training camp, there were a lot
- 12:18Speaker 1: of positive moments. He's always around the football, and you
- 12:21Speaker 1: talk again about a younger player from a high profile
- 12:25Speaker 1: college program, it's not going to have a chance to
- 12:27Speaker 1: go out there and turn some heads. I do believe
- 12:30Speaker 1: that he's someone that's going to seize the moment there,
- 12:33Speaker 1: but it could be more of a Jehad Campbell, Jeremiah
- 12:36Speaker 1: Trotter junior game to start, maybe giving away for Smile
- 12:40Speaker 1: Mondan at some point, but I'm looking at Jeremiah Trotter
- 12:42Speaker 1: Junior and Josh Ushe as first and second level defenders.
- 12:47Speaker 2: That I'll be certainly keeping an eye on in this one.
- 12:50Speaker 1: On the back end, I'm looking at Michael Carter, the
- 12:53Speaker 1: Eagles trade edition. Played a ton of football with the Jets,
- 12:57Speaker 1: was once the highest paid slot corn in the NFL
- 13:00Speaker 1: if you go back to that, I believe October twenty
- 13:02Speaker 1: twenty four. He didn't play in the Bills game due
- 13:04Speaker 1: to a personal reason, but he hasn't played a ton
- 13:06Speaker 1: for the Eagles in general since arriving via the trade deadline.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Another player really enjoyed my conversations with him. Smart, tough,
- 13:16Speaker 1: and I think when you look at his ability to
- 13:19Speaker 1: play not only nickel corner but also safety, and Marcus
- 13:23Speaker 1: Epps isn't going to be playing in this game with
- 13:25Speaker 1: the concussion. He reported concussion symptoms after Thursday's practice and
- 13:32Speaker 1: he's in the protocol right now. So the Eagles are
- 13:34Speaker 1: really light at safety. So it's gonna be a lot
- 13:37Speaker 1: of Sydney Brown and Michael Carter, I would imagine. And
- 13:41Speaker 1: so I look at Michael Carter as a player that
- 13:43Speaker 1: I've wanted to see more of since he got here,
- 13:45Speaker 1: and I will have that chance to watch it on
- 13:48Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. And then the other player, as you all
- 13:51Speaker 1: have probably assumed that I would say, is mac McWilliams,
- 13:55Speaker 1: the Eagles rookie cornerback from UCF. They drafted him in
- 13:58Speaker 1: the fifth round in April. He has been my rookie
- 14:01Speaker 1: diary subject for the entirety of the season. We had
- 14:04Speaker 1: a really good chat the other day for the latest edition,
- 14:07Speaker 1: so he can grab that on the inside the Birds
- 14:09Speaker 1: platform because he said some really interesting things. And Matt
- 14:13Speaker 1: can play inside at nickel or he can play outside.
- 14:17Speaker 2: They've cross trained him throughout the season.
- 14:19Speaker 1: He didn't really play that much nickel in training camp
- 14:22Speaker 1: towards the end of camp, and he had a quad
- 14:24Speaker 1: injury at some point in camp, but they really started
- 14:26Speaker 1: to cross train him more outside. So he does give
- 14:29Speaker 1: that give you that position versatility. So he played seven
- 14:33Speaker 1: defensive snaps all season. He dressed for the first time
- 14:36Speaker 1: against the Bills since October twenty six against the Giants,
- 14:41Speaker 1: and so he hasn't really factored all that much into
- 14:44Speaker 1: the Eagles twenty twenty five plans, but this will be
- 14:47Speaker 1: another good chance for him to get out there, locks
- 14:50Speaker 1: some valuable reps, get that NFL experience and it should
- 14:54Speaker 1: make for another really good rookie diary entry next week
- 14:57Speaker 1: when we reconvene. I'm curious to see how they choose
- 15:00Speaker 1: to do that, because if Carter plays safety, you could
- 15:05Speaker 1: see Mac McWilliams have to play nickel in this game
- 15:08Speaker 1: and maybe even start with Keiley, Ringo and Jacory and
- 15:11Speaker 1: Bennett starting on the outside.
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- 18:39Speaker 1: Then you have the practice squad elevations, and one of
- 18:41Speaker 1: them has to be Charlie Hewlett.
- 18:43Speaker 2: Again, I'm recording this before the elevations.
- 18:45Speaker 1: You can make the argument that Brandon Johnson, the rookie
- 18:48Speaker 1: corner who I did a podcast on a couple days ago,
- 18:50Speaker 1: warrants that spot, especially with no Marcus EPs. I have
- 18:53Speaker 1: a hot hard time envisioning Nigles wanting to put red
- 18:56Speaker 1: blanket ship out there. Brandon Johnson gives you nickel and
- 19:00Speaker 1: safety depth, and he would probably play a lot of
- 19:02Speaker 1: safety in that game. But they also have needs at
- 19:05Speaker 1: wide receiver, depending on how inclined they are to expose
- 19:09Speaker 1: Britain Covey to some extra hits. Britain would be the
- 19:13Speaker 1: third wide receiver, of course, but he's so valuable as
- 19:15Speaker 1: a punt returner that you wonder if someone like a
- 19:17Speaker 1: terrorist Marshall could warrant some consideration there. I don't want
- 19:22Speaker 1: to get too much into the elevation because depending on
- 19:24Speaker 1: the time where you hear about this, you could already
- 19:27Speaker 1: have your answer. But I'm at least offering some of
- 19:30Speaker 1: my thought process and perspective on that.
- 19:32Speaker 2: But I'm really excited at covering this game.
- 19:35Speaker 1: I mean, I know that I'm probably in the minority,
- 19:37Speaker 1: but I look at every opportunity to cover a game
- 19:40Speaker 1: as being as.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Something that I don't take for granted.
- 19:45Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate to do what I do, but you're
- 19:48Speaker 1: also talking to someone who enjoys covering the preseason.
- 19:51Speaker 2: That's every game for me.
- 19:52Speaker 1: But there's something to be said for players who don't
- 19:55Speaker 1: have much of an opportunity during the regular season because
- 19:58Speaker 1: of the roster that the Eagles have, and they've been
- 20:01Speaker 1: working diligently behind the scenes unbeknownst to most, and this
- 20:05Speaker 1: is their chance to go out there and showcase that
- 20:08Speaker 1: and get that valuable NFL experience.
- 20:09Speaker 2: For players who maybe always signed a one year deal
- 20:12Speaker 2: and their.
- 20:12Speaker 1: Futures are uncertain, you can put some good tape out
- 20:15Speaker 1: there to entice other teams. To take a look at
- 20:18Speaker 1: you in the offseason. So there's a lot of benefit
- 20:21Speaker 1: out there. And oh, let's not forget Eagles are playing
- 20:24Speaker 1: for something in this game. They have a chance and
- 20:27Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with what the
- 20:28Speaker 1: Bears Lions are doing, but they could get the number
- 20:30Speaker 1: two seeds. So this isn't a team that's going to
- 20:32Speaker 1: kind of just go through the motions. They're approaching this
- 20:35Speaker 1: game as a regular season game, not a dress rehearsal
- 20:38Speaker 1: preseason game.
- 20:39Speaker 2: They're going to go out there to win.
- 20:41Speaker 1: And when there's something there on the line and you
- 20:43Speaker 1: have players like that, I think you're going to see
- 20:45Speaker 1: the best versions of themselves. But for now, that's going
- 20:48Speaker 1: to do it for this edition of the Czech Odaily.
- 20:50Speaker 1: I'm Andrew to check O and I will catch you
- 20:52Speaker 1: all on the next one.