Latest / Financial Survival Network / Crypto Swap: America’s Debt Fix - Dale Smothers #6264
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The idea of bitcoin becoming the way out of debt
- 0:05Speaker 1: is one that is new, fresh and probably should be reviewed.
- 0:10Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, if America comes out of their
- 0:12Speaker 1: debt crisis, look out and look out. The American consumer
- 0:17Speaker 1: is going to be benefited from this.
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- 0:47Speaker 3: And welcome. You are listening to and watching the Financial
- 0:50Speaker 3: Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Well got our
- 0:54Speaker 3: GDP numbers in, But how relevant are they because that's
- 0:58Speaker 3: the past. We're living now and we're looking towards the future.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Dallas Mothers is with us now, noted financial expert Dale.
- 1:05Speaker 3: Great to have you back on this show. So what
- 1:08Speaker 3: about those GDP numbers?
- 1:09Speaker 4: Good to be with you, Carrie.
- 1:11Speaker 1: GDP numbers are important when we look at reports, but
- 1:15Speaker 1: when we're thinking about what we've got to do in
- 1:17Speaker 1: the future, they're not nearly as important. It would be
- 1:19Speaker 1: like trying to drive your vehicle by looking in the
- 1:22Speaker 1: rearview mirror. This is the GDP of twenty twenty four
- 1:26Speaker 1: quarter number four, and it showed a little bit more
- 1:29Speaker 1: growth than we were expecting. But it doesn't take much
- 1:33Speaker 1: observation to realize, Carrie, that things are starting to slow
- 1:37Speaker 1: just a little bit. And I think that should be expected,
- 1:40Speaker 1: at least in the short term due to the mandate
- 1:43Speaker 1: that was granted to the Trump administration.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Yeah, so, speaking of which, you think that those is
- 1:51Speaker 3: actually going to make a difference.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly going to make a difference in the
- 1:55Speaker 1: way that the market reacts, which it already has. Things
- 2:00Speaker 1: that tariffs are going to probably make more of a
- 2:04Speaker 1: direct difference on Dose itself. It will likely do a
- 2:11Speaker 1: pretty good justice for the American taxpayer. They're certainly fraud, waste,
- 2:17Speaker 1: and abuse in the American government. And you ask any
- 2:20Speaker 1: individual before Elon Musk became the head of Dose, you
- 2:24Speaker 1: ask any individual who has any stake in the game,
- 2:28Speaker 1: who actually pays into the tax system, I think that
- 2:31Speaker 1: they would also agree that there is some fraudulent, if
- 2:34Speaker 1: not fraudulent, at least some Yeah, if not fraudulent they
- 2:39Speaker 1: would at least say that there is some inefficiencies in
- 2:41Speaker 1: the way government spends money. I've heard it for once
- 2:45Speaker 1: mentioned and forgive me if the numbers are on Kerry,
- 2:48Speaker 1: But we've talked a little bit about this maybe in
- 2:50Speaker 1: other shows. You give a dollar to government, you get
- 2:53Speaker 1: back sixty seven cents. You give a dollar to the
- 2:56Speaker 1: private sector and you get back a dollar thirty. The
- 3:00Speaker 1: investment is clear, a lot of this stuff needs to
- 3:03Speaker 1: be shifted to the private sector. So when it comes
- 3:06Speaker 1: to DOGE, I think it's certainly going to help us
- 3:09Speaker 1: at home. When it comes to the tariffs, we're going
- 3:12Speaker 1: to have a little bit of short term pain for
- 3:14Speaker 1: some long term gain, but it's worth it, all right.
- 3:17Speaker 3: Well, this reminds me of Captain Lewis or Luis or
- 3:22Speaker 3: Reno in the movie Casablanca, when he turned around and
- 3:26Speaker 3: somebody said, you know they're gambling.
- 3:29Speaker 4: He turns around the goods. There's gambling here. I'm shocked.
- 3:32Speaker 4: There's bro there's waste, there's theft. I cannot believe it here, Sure,
- 3:36Speaker 4: how can this be?
- 3:37Speaker 3: Dale?
- 3:38Speaker 4: Like, what's going on here? How did this happen?
- 3:41Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, we shouldn't be sending money overseas until
- 3:47Speaker 1: the people who are still suffering in North Carolina and
- 3:50Speaker 1: suffering in California and Florida from our own natural disasters,
- 3:54Speaker 1: they should be taken care of as if nothing happened, Carrie,
- 3:58Speaker 1: and so stopping that immediately day one is something that
- 4:02Speaker 1: has been a very good success story for the American taxpayer.
- 4:09Speaker 1: When it comes to doge itself, that they are probably
- 4:12Speaker 1: attacking a lot of things that are making people uncomfortable.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Not to jump into conspiracy theories here, but when you
- 4:19Speaker 1: know that the judge is close to you, you might
- 4:23Speaker 1: squirm a little bit more. I believe Elon Musk has
- 4:25Speaker 1: even gave reference to that in the past, where he
- 4:28Speaker 1: said when he moved to Twitter, don't quote me on
- 4:31Speaker 1: the words, but he said something to the effect of,
- 4:33Speaker 1: when I took over Twitter, the ones who were not
- 4:36Speaker 1: doing much were the first ones to start screaming when
- 4:38Speaker 1: I started cutting.
- 4:40Speaker 4: What was it? He asked them?
- 4:42Speaker 1: He asked a lot of government employees to name five
- 4:44Speaker 1: things that you did last week, and many of them
- 4:47Speaker 1: struggled to come up with five things.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Working a nerve of him.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Yeah, So now granted, Thank God for our public servants,
- 4:58Speaker 1: thank God for those who who do the lord's work
- 5:02Speaker 1: and in certain areas that a private company could not
- 5:05Speaker 1: do because there's just no profit in it. I mean firefighting,
- 5:08Speaker 1: for instance, or ambulance services. But when it comes to
- 5:12Speaker 1: some of this, US aid AI duh that when you
- 5:18Speaker 1: start looking through the numbers and you start looking through
- 5:20Speaker 1: what's actually done, it should have been done a long
- 5:22Speaker 1: time ago.
- 5:24Speaker 4: Yeah, and here's here's my take on it.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Uh, you know, and I try my best not to
- 5:29Speaker 1: be political, if you will, for my clients, because we
- 5:32Speaker 1: have a lot of clients from both sides of the aisle,
- 5:34Speaker 1: and whether you're a Republican or Democrat, you want to
- 5:36Speaker 1: retire successfully. But if this was a Democratic president with
- 5:42Speaker 1: a D beside their name, we would have an entirely
- 5:45Speaker 1: different story hitting the news waves right now, an.
- 5:50Speaker 4: Entirely different story.
- 5:53Speaker 1: And it's it's kind of it's it's sad, it's disarming,
- 5:57Speaker 1: and it's also why I think Americans are waking up
- 5:59Speaker 1: to the fact that, you know, both sides is slant
- 6:03Speaker 1: their news, but one side has become so slanted that
- 6:06Speaker 1: they're almost horizontal.
- 6:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:08Speaker 3: I don't know if you caught the NPR and the
- 6:13Speaker 3: corporate for Public broadcasting people and the hearing on Capitol
- 6:17Speaker 3: Hill yesterday. In fact it was, but these were some
- 6:21Speaker 3: pathetic human beings like news to them is just a
- 6:25Speaker 3: form of propagandizing, and it's a way to further your
- 6:32Speaker 3: your own interests and the interests of whomever you believe in,
- 6:37Speaker 3: whomever you're with, and it's really not a means to
- 6:43Speaker 3: inform and enlighten the public so that the public is
- 6:47Speaker 3: more apt to be able to comprehend important issues and
- 6:52Speaker 3: come to informed opinions about it.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Right, the government funded propagandat you nailed it. And you know,
- 7:01Speaker 1: one thing we have to be careful of is the
- 7:04Speaker 1: folks that have common sense, you know, not left or
- 7:07Speaker 1: right leaning, not left or right bigots, if you will,
- 7:11Speaker 1: where we're sickophants of one particular individual, just common sense.
- 7:16Speaker 1: We have to be careful not to let this pendulum
- 7:18Speaker 1: swing so far to the other side that we begin
- 7:22Speaker 1: to turn a blind eye to what's going on on
- 7:26Speaker 1: our side of the aisle. Whether you're a Republican or Democrat,
- 7:29Speaker 1: you should be able to look at someone like Elon
- 7:31Speaker 1: Musk and champion his entrepreneurship and champion his achievements. And also,
- 7:38Speaker 1: thank god that somebody whether it's Hillmor or whoever it is,
- 7:41Speaker 1: is taking a look at the inefficiencies of government. And
- 7:47Speaker 1: government is a creature in its own right, carry it
- 7:50Speaker 1: will consume and get larger, very very unlikely that it
- 7:54Speaker 1: gets smaller on its own watch, and so someone has
- 7:58Speaker 1: to take the reins, put a leash on it and
- 8:01Speaker 1: hold it tight. Another thing we've got to see, and
- 8:05Speaker 1: you know, a good luck on this, but the rule
- 8:08Speaker 1: makers have to change the rules to where they only
- 8:11Speaker 1: get to make the rules for a length of time.
- 8:14Speaker 1: We have to see term limits enacted. Term limits should
- 8:17Speaker 1: have been a thing.
- 8:18Speaker 4: You know.
- 8:18Speaker 1: I'm from Kentucky, born and raised, big Kentucky Wildcats fan.
- 8:23Speaker 1: We got a big game coming up, you know, the
- 8:25Speaker 1: march madness is upon us. Here's what I know. Our
- 8:29Speaker 1: Kentucky senator who sat on the same aisle, the same
- 8:33Speaker 1: side of the aisle as I vote, our own Kentucky
- 8:36Speaker 1: senator was a senator for longer than the Queen of
- 8:39Speaker 1: England was queen.
- 8:41Speaker 4: And that's just not right. This type of.
- 8:46Speaker 1: A padding of pockets, perhaps to stay in or jerry mandering.
- 8:49Speaker 1: It happens on both sides, and we can't become sycophants
- 8:53Speaker 1: to the point where we look at one and say
- 8:55Speaker 1: that's right, and look at the other and say that's
- 8:57Speaker 1: all wrong. If you have the ability to say one
- 9:00Speaker 1: good thing about somebody, you're probably looking at it from
- 9:03Speaker 1: a bad perspective.
- 9:04Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 9:05Speaker 3: Well, the polarization bad news for sure. But and you
- 9:11Speaker 3: talk about these guys, it's the Hotel California. They can
- 9:14Speaker 3: check in any time they want, but they can never
- 9:16Speaker 3: leave because they never will leave.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Right, It's so true, so true, you know, speaking to
- 9:22Speaker 1: the point of kind of reframing government. We're talking to
- 9:28Speaker 1: our clients right now, Carrie about the idea of a reversal. Now,
- 9:34Speaker 1: the I think it was the Treasury Secretary came on
- 9:37Speaker 1: and said, we are going through a detox. That's how
- 9:41Speaker 1: he related this. It's a detail.
- 9:43Speaker 4: Yeah, I laughed.
- 9:45Speaker 1: It's an incredible analogy. But it's hard for my clients
- 9:48Speaker 1: and a lot of you know, people of let's say affluence,
- 9:52Speaker 1: to maybe relate to what that means. They realize the
- 9:54Speaker 1: message is clear, short term gain and a lot to
- 9:56Speaker 1: win on the back end of this when we get
- 9:58Speaker 1: through it. But if we maybe relate it to taking
- 10:03Speaker 1: a car that's driving one hundred miles an hour, and
- 10:06Speaker 1: we've got to go in reverse because we have given
- 10:09Speaker 1: a mandate to change courses. We don't like which way
- 10:13Speaker 1: we're going, We're going the opposite direction. We have to
- 10:16Speaker 1: pump the brakes first, pumping those breaks. It's not easy,
- 10:21Speaker 1: and it's certainly not what we've always done. We got
- 10:24Speaker 1: to throw the thirty year old handbook out, this playbook
- 10:27Speaker 1: that we've called geopolitical plays from for twenty five plus years,
- 10:34Speaker 1: starting with allowing China in the World Trade Organization and
- 10:39Speaker 1: then allowing them to run the gambit and and have
- 10:43Speaker 1: no rules, not honoring our profit, our own intellectual property.
- 10:49Speaker 4: They have ran over us for years.
- 10:53Speaker 1: And one message that has not changed with Donald Trump
- 10:56Speaker 1: is that message.
- 10:58Speaker 4: And he's a tied true one, so true.
- 11:00Speaker 1: He also what I love carry is that he values
- 11:04Speaker 1: and knows the value of the American consumer. He knows
- 11:08Speaker 1: that every country in the world wants to put their
- 11:11Speaker 1: product in front of our eyes, and he's charging a
- 11:14Speaker 1: premium for it. It's the first time we've done something
- 11:16Speaker 1: like that in a long time. I do think it's
- 11:18Speaker 1: going to work. Is it the way I would do it?
- 11:21Speaker 1: Probably not. Is it the way that it probably should
- 11:24Speaker 1: be done? To give us peace and calm. Probably not,
- 11:28Speaker 1: but he took his mandate and he's doing it immediately.
- 11:32Speaker 1: And to be real frank with you, I think we
- 11:34Speaker 1: do come out better because of it.
- 11:37Speaker 3: Hey, I like in the US market to like a supermarket.
- 11:41Speaker 3: You know, all those products that wind up there, and
- 11:45Speaker 3: they wind up on certain ends of the aisle close
- 11:47Speaker 3: to the cash register. They didn't just get put there.
- 11:51Speaker 3: The people that produce them pay the supermarket fees. In fact,
- 11:56Speaker 3: that's where a lot of the supermarket's fees actually come from,
- 12:00Speaker 3: is product placement. And to have the government be doing
- 12:04Speaker 3: that is something I would have never thought could actually happen.
- 12:10Speaker 4: But here we are.
- 12:11Speaker 3: And you know, just that the Golden Passport, the Golden
- 12:17Speaker 3: Visa is pure genius. I mean, that could bring in
- 12:20Speaker 3: a trillion dollars sure, writing its own you know.
- 12:23Speaker 1: And Saturday Night Live and these these satire skits can
- 12:27Speaker 1: have a heyday with that. But the bottom line is
- 12:29Speaker 1: it makes sense and it's not something we've ever done before. Again,
- 12:33Speaker 1: thirty year old playbook, rip it up and throw it out.
- 12:36Speaker 1: This type of action is needed because if we continue
- 12:40Speaker 1: to do what we've always done and expect a different result,
- 12:44Speaker 1: it is the definition of insane. Insane, and I love
- 12:49Speaker 1: your analogy of product placement.
- 12:51Speaker 4: That's it. That is exactly what he is forcing individuals
- 12:56Speaker 4: to do.
- 12:56Speaker 1: And places like China, you know what I'll love about
- 13:01Speaker 1: jumping on say an Amazon site or Tamu or whatever
- 13:05Speaker 1: it is, wherever you shop. And you know, granted all
- 13:07Speaker 1: of those have their downfalls, but you can get things
- 13:10Speaker 1: for cheap. But those things come cheaply because they are
- 13:14Speaker 1: ripped off and duplicated versions of someone's hard sweat equity.
- 13:19Speaker 1: They poured into a product, they send them to China
- 13:21Speaker 1: and now immediately there's a duplicate of it. And if
- 13:25Speaker 1: we were the ones producing the product, we wouldn't like
- 13:27Speaker 1: it either.
- 13:28Speaker 3: And the oftentimes so from China, it's manufactured with slave labor.
- 13:34Speaker 3: So so ju about the debt, I have a theory
- 13:39Speaker 3: the strategic Bitcoin reserve. It's like, there's no possible way
- 13:43Speaker 3: to pay off thirty seven trillion, right, shay not be done.
- 13:47Speaker 3: They just can't be done. However, with cryptocurrency, what if
- 13:52Speaker 3: the US was actually sitting on a lot more crypto
- 13:55Speaker 3: than any of us know about, like several million coins,
- 14:00Speaker 3: and by pumping this up, if they can bring it
- 14:05Speaker 3: to the point where our crypto holdings.
- 14:08Speaker 4: Are worth more than our debt.
- 14:11Speaker 3: They could just do a crypto to debt swap and
- 14:15Speaker 3: there goes all of our debt. It's gone, problem solved.
- 14:19Speaker 3: There is no other way to solve this other than
- 14:21Speaker 3: a default, an inflationary depression, or some type of renegotiation,
- 14:28Speaker 3: and none of those, none of those options are attractive.
- 14:33Speaker 4: Yeah, a good old pump and dump pretty much.
- 14:38Speaker 3: But you know, hey, the US government's just a mob anyway, right.
- 14:43Speaker 4: That's true? What is it?
- 14:45Speaker 1: Charles Ponzi himself would be proud of Social Security, jealous.
- 14:50Speaker 4: He would be jealous. He would be jealous.
- 14:52Speaker 1: The idea of bitcoin becoming the way out of debt
- 14:58Speaker 1: is one that is new, fresh, and probably should be reviewed.
- 15:03Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, if America comes out of their
- 15:05Speaker 1: debt crisis, look out and look out, the American consumer
- 15:10Speaker 1: is going to be benefited from this. I am curious
- 15:13Speaker 1: about this potential getting rid of income tax. I've even
- 15:19Speaker 1: heard recently two hundred and fifty thousand dollars deduction essentially
- 15:24Speaker 1: a standard deduction being kind of proposed. And you know,
- 15:27Speaker 1: you have to watch what you hear because it's not
- 15:29Speaker 1: always true. But the idea of abolishing the income tax
- 15:33Speaker 1: would also usher in an economic boom like we've never seen.
- 15:37Speaker 1: It's the only problem with that is where we get
- 15:39Speaker 1: in our revenue from.
- 15:41Speaker 3: Well, so well as we know a lot of it,
- 15:44Speaker 3: we don't need a lot of these employees are useless
- 15:48Speaker 3: and a lot of waste. But still there are things
- 15:52Speaker 3: like the military, the courts. Even carving it down to
- 15:55Speaker 3: its most basic functions, it's still got to be paid for.
- 16:00Speaker 3: I think the key is a national sales tax and
- 16:04Speaker 3: the ability to just then it would be even more
- 16:09Speaker 3: of a boom because it would encourage savings and people
- 16:13Speaker 3: would have a choice where they want to.
- 16:14Speaker 4: Pay that tax or not. Kerrie, tell me when you're
- 16:17Speaker 4: running and where you're running, and I'll vote for you.
- 16:19Speaker 3: Man.
- 16:19Speaker 4: I love running sales. I'm running from it, not to it.
- 16:24Speaker 4: But Liz me.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Sales tax idea is perhaps the most remarkable idea, and
- 16:28Speaker 1: it's one that I have been behind for many, many years.
- 16:32Speaker 1: It definitely helps alleviate this foreign income loop O or
- 16:39Speaker 1: the illegal immigrants perhaps not paying their fair share. If
- 16:42Speaker 1: you consume, you pay, If you consume, you pay. We
- 16:47Speaker 1: also are ceeing is at Florida if I'm not mistake
- 16:50Speaker 1: at Florida is abolishing the property tax perhaps the last one.
- 16:55Speaker 3: Okay, there's the money coming from there? Again, where's the
- 16:58Speaker 3: money going to come from?
- 16:59Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 17:00Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see it, you know. But at least
- 17:04Speaker 3: they're talking about the right things. For so many years, Dale,
- 17:08Speaker 3: we didn't even talk about the right things.
- 17:10Speaker 4: So true Lake NPR mode.
- 17:12Speaker 1: That is such a good point because this has now
- 17:15Speaker 1: become the front and center. We have a democratic governor
- 17:18Speaker 1: now talking about lowering taxes in the state of Kentucky,
- 17:22Speaker 1: and it's all because he's pushing for a white House bid.
- 17:27Speaker 1: You are likely to see the idea of tax cuts
- 17:32Speaker 1: and tax savings and renegotiating again, not with the thirty
- 17:37Speaker 1: year old playbook, but with a new, fresh playbook becoming
- 17:41Speaker 1: the center aisle.
- 17:43Speaker 4: Item of discussion.
- 17:45Speaker 1: And that's a good thing, win win for the American
- 17:48Speaker 1: consumer taxpayer.
- 17:50Speaker 4: It's a win win, all right.
- 17:52Speaker 3: So Dale, just tell us where we find you, how
- 17:55Speaker 3: we connect with you and on the web.
- 17:58Speaker 1: Yes, sir Carrie, you can go to rdswealth dot com.
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- 18:44Speaker 4: Next day or two. Delle, always a pleasure. Thanks for
- 18:47Speaker 4: stopping by. Thank you Ery, good to.
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