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Mega Edition: The Oceangate Disaster (10/30/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. There
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  Speaker 1: is currently a story making its way through the news
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  Speaker 1: right now that has your boy absolutely terrified. As you
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  Speaker 1: all know, I am deathly afraid of the deep ocean. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there is a submarine that is tasked with going down
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  Speaker 1: and exploring the wreckage of the Titanic... for the price
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  Speaker 1: of $ 250, 000 per ticket. Now, this submersible with five people
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  Speaker 1: aboard has gone missing and they have no idea where
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  Speaker 1: it is. And you have the Coast Guard involved in
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  Speaker 1: this search now, and they haven't come up with anything
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  Speaker 1: as far as the location of this submarine. And imagine
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  Speaker 1: being stuck on that submarine, floating around aimlessly at the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean, waiting for your oxygen to run out.
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  Speaker 1: I dropped dead of a heart attack, so you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have to worry about me taking up any oxygen because
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  Speaker 1: the second I found out that the submarine was going
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  Speaker 1: down or there was damage to.
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  Speaker 2: It, forget it. It would be over. I'd die.
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  Speaker 1: This article is from the Daily Mail. Headline, A desperate
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  Speaker 1: race is on to find Titanic submarine with five people
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  Speaker 1: aboard that vanished with 96 hours of air on $ 250, 000
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  Speaker 1: expedition to sunken liner. 12,500 feet below the Atlantic Ocean.
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  Speaker 1: That is a whole lot of no from me. You
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  Speaker 1: might as well be stuck in the middle of space
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  Speaker 1: if you get lost in the ocean. And if that's
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  Speaker 1: not terrifying enough, who the hell knows what sort of
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  Speaker 1: creatures are inhabiting this part of the ocean that want
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  Speaker 1: to eat you. This article was authored by Jen Smith.
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  Speaker 1: A tourist submersible Taking wealthy explorers to look at the
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  Speaker 1: Titanic wreckage for as much as $ 250, 000 a ticket has
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  Speaker 1: gone missing with five people aboard. So you want to
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  Speaker 1: be part of the wreckage? Is that what you're telling me?
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  Speaker 1: Because going down here, you're taking a chance that something
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  Speaker 1: can go bad and something can go bad quickly. And
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  Speaker 1: for the price of $ 250, 000, you can't find something better
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  Speaker 1: to do with your time? I can think of about
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  Speaker 1: 5 katrillion things that are more interesting than going to
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of the ocean. The Boston Coast Guard and
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  Speaker 1: Canadian Coast Guard are both now looking for the missing
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  Speaker 1: vessel that is operated by the tour company Ocean Gate Expeditions.
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  Speaker 1: The wreckage of the iconic ship sits 12,500 feet, 2.5 miles, underwater,
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  Speaker 1: around 370 miles from Newfoundland, Canada. So 370 miles from Canada,
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  Speaker 1: you're in the middle of the ocean, you're not close
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  Speaker 1: to anything, you're out here in a submersible, and you
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  Speaker 1: think it's a good idea to go down and check
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  Speaker 1: out the wreckage of the Titanic, huh? What, you never
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  Speaker 1: seen the movie? James Cameron's depiction wasn't good enough for you?
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  Speaker 1: Ocean Gate Expeditions is thought to be the only company
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  Speaker 1: that offers the tours. According to social media posts from
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  Speaker 1: some of those on board, the sub aimed to depart
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  Speaker 1: at 4 a.m. Eastern Standard Time yesterday. It's unclear when
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  Speaker 1: precisely it lost communication with its mothership. Yo, my palms
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  Speaker 1: are sweaty as we sit here and talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: This is like the most terrifying scenario that I could
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  Speaker 1: possibly think of, besides maybe just like floating around and
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  Speaker 1: bobbing around in the ocean, like after a shipwreck or
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  Speaker 1: something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Forget that, too.
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  Speaker 1: The whole idea of being marooned out in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the ocean is just too much for me to handle.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason that I live in Nevada and I
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  Speaker 1: stay in the desert. Tickets cost $ 250, 000 for a 10-day
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  Speaker 1: excursion during which groups pair off into smaller pods to
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  Speaker 1: dive into the submersible for up to 10 hours. So
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, you're in one of these little tubes
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  Speaker 1: for up to 10 hours? You and five other people? Hello, claustrophobia.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to see you again. Never mind the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I'm in this little metal tube and you're dropping me
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  Speaker 1: to the bottom of the ocean.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm in here with five other people? No thanks.
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  Speaker 1: The company on Monday confirmed its sub was missing. We
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  Speaker 1: are exploring and mobilizing all options to bring the crew
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  Speaker 1: back safely. Our entire focus is on the crew members
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  Speaker 1: in the submersible and their families. We are working toward
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  Speaker 1: the safe return of the crew members. I hope that happens,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not holding my breath. How many times have
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  Speaker 1: we heard about rescue missions in the ocean that don't
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  Speaker 1: work out so well? And then you're talking about not
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  Speaker 1: only a wreckage where you could see it from like
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  Speaker 1: a plane or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: This is a submarine.
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  Speaker 1: How are you going to locate where the wreckage is
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  Speaker 1: if it's underwater? Now, of course, they probably have beacons
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  Speaker 1: and locators and stuff like that. But if they haven't
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  Speaker 1: found it by now, maybe that stuff malfunctioned as well.
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  Speaker 1: According to OceanGate's online materials, the Titan can operate safely
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  Speaker 1: for up to 96 hours with a crew of five
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  Speaker 1: on board. The sub uses Elon Musk's Starlink to communicate
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  Speaker 1: with its mothership because it's so far out to sea.
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  Speaker 1: Among those taking part in the expedition is billionaire Hamish Harding,
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  Speaker 1: CEO of Action Aviation in Dubai. And I guess I'm
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  Speaker 1: just boring, because if I was a billionaire... There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of other things that I could think of doing
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  Speaker 1: rather than going down to the Titanic to take a look.
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand what you're going to gain from that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I had a look.
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  Speaker 1: It's a ship wreckage that I've seen on National Geographic
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  Speaker 1: a hundred times. So let me go down in this
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  Speaker 1: submersible and have a better look for 250 Gs. Now,
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  Speaker 1: unless you're some kind of Titanic historian or aficionado or
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  Speaker 1: somebody who's like really into it. I just don't understand
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  Speaker 1: what the draw would be here because normal people, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, look at the price tag of something like
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  Speaker 1: this and laugh.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking about that's the price of a house.
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  Speaker 1: Second of all, normal people take a look at this
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  Speaker 1: and say to themselves, yeah, I think I'll pass on
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  Speaker 1: going down two and a half miles to the wreckage
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  Speaker 1: of the Titanic in some miniature submarine.
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  Speaker 2: And imagine if you had billions of dollars? Forget it.
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  Speaker 1: There's not a beach somewhere that's calling your name to
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  Speaker 1: just sit on? Or how about some kind of resort? Instead,
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  Speaker 1: you have to go down, get in a submersible, and
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  Speaker 1: go and check out the wreck of the Titanic, huh? Okay, look,
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  Speaker 1: everything is not for everybody. And this certainly is not
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  Speaker 1: for me. He excitedly posted to social media about being there.
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  Speaker 1: Harding said, It's a window and it had opened up
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  Speaker 1: that it would allow the group to dive. A weather
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  Speaker 1: window has just opened up and we are going to
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  Speaker 1: attempt to dive tomorrow. We started streaming from St. John's, Newfoundland,
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  Speaker 1: Canada yesterday and are planning to start dive operations around
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  Speaker 1: 4 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow morning, he wrote.
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  Speaker 1: His company, Action Aviation, posted yesterday at 4 a.m. confirming
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  Speaker 1: that he was diving. Until then, we have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of preparations and briefings to do. So I would guess
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  Speaker 1: that this gentleman was on this submersible Mr. Billionaire guy here,
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  Speaker 1: and now he's missing as well. Naval experts say that
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  Speaker 1: the wreckage is in such a position that it will
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  Speaker 1: be difficult to have a recovery mission.
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  Speaker 2: It's very worrying.
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  Speaker 1: It could become entangled in the wreckage of the Titanic.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know yet.
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  Speaker 2: The wreck site is a long way from anywhere. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: no shit.
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  Speaker 1: And when I was talking about you might as well
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  Speaker 1: be in space, this is what I mean. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like you're calling the local fire department and they're showing
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  Speaker 1: up with a couple of engines to get you out
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  Speaker 1: of a jam.
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  Speaker 2: Not only are you in the.
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  Speaker 1: Ocean, in the middle of nowhere, but now you're below
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  Speaker 1: the ocean in a submersible. So short of Aquaman showing
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  Speaker 1: up to help out, I have no idea how they
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  Speaker 1: plan on finding or rescuing these people if they've lost
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  Speaker 1: track of this submarine. Now, if they still know where
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  Speaker 1: the submarine is and they can track it, then maybe
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  Speaker 1: they have a shot. But if they've lost track of
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  Speaker 1: this submarine, I have no idea how they plan on
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  Speaker 1: trying to recover it. The only hope one has is
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  Speaker 1: that the mothership will have a standby craft that can
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  Speaker 1: investigate immediately what is going on, former Rear Admiral Chris
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  Speaker 1: Perry said during an appearance on Sky News. And you
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  Speaker 1: would think they'd be prepared, right? You're bringing billionaires and
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  Speaker 1: shit out here. You shouldn't be skimping on the bucks.
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  Speaker 1: So you have to have some kind of rescue craft.
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  Speaker 1: And logic would dictate that they launched that rescue craft
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  Speaker 1: and they came up with nothing. Marine traffic shows the
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  Speaker 1: Canadian Coast Guard's Polar Prince, Horizon Arctic, and Coptic Hobson, 1752,
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  Speaker 1: are now making their way to the wreckage. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what'll happen when there's a ship that goes down. They'll
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  Speaker 1: send out the call and whatever ships are close by,
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  Speaker 1: commercial or otherwise, will make their way to the scene
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  Speaker 1: to try and help out. Its dives can last up
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  Speaker 1: to 10 hours each, with participants spending a total of
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  Speaker 1: eight days at sea on board a larger ship. In
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  Speaker 1: an interview last year, the company's CEO, Stockton Rush, told
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  Speaker 1: CBC that their subs had capacity for five people. Titan
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  Speaker 1: is the only five-person sub capable of going to the
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  Speaker 1: Titanic depth, which is half the depth of the ocean.
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  Speaker 1: There's no switches and things to bump into. We have
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  Speaker 1: one button to turn it on. Everything else is done
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  Speaker 1: with touchscreens and computers, so you really become part of
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle, and everybody gets to know everyone pretty well. Look,
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  Speaker 1: if I want a bunkmate, I'll go to camp. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not trying to jump on some submersible and have a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of bunkmates for the price tag of 250,000 racks.
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  Speaker 1: And then a little tidbit here about how everything is automated.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds great until something goes south. You know, in
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  Speaker 1: the old days, you have something that goes wrong, you
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  Speaker 1: give it a punch with your hand or whatever, and
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  Speaker 1: you'll turn it back on maybe. With all this audio equipment,
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  Speaker 1: forget it. remember in the movie Armageddon you had the
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  Speaker 1: Russian dude who was up on the space station by
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  Speaker 1: himself and then everything started to like blow up and
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  Speaker 1: shit he grabbed the wrench and started beating on it
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  Speaker 1: that's that old school style and when you go completely
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  Speaker 1: technical here you don't have that ability to go in
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  Speaker 1: there and give it that old one too So while
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  Speaker 1: I like the idea of using new technology, obviously, I
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  Speaker 1: also think there has to be some kind of manual
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  Speaker 1: switch where the operator.
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  Speaker 2: Can take over.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, one switch and everything else is touchpads. What
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  Speaker 1: if there's an electrical outage? What if there's a short?
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  Speaker 1: You mean to tell me I can't operate this thing manually?
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  Speaker 1: The 2023 Expeditions are only the third the company has
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  Speaker 1: carried out in the Titan. Well... Considering the lawsuits that
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  Speaker 1: are probably coming their way, if things don't get rectified here,
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  Speaker 1: I would guess that it's probably going to be their
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  Speaker 1: third and their final outing. But either way, we'll keep
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  Speaker 1: our eye on this, and we'll see what happens as
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  Speaker 1: far as the rescue mission goes. Alright folks, that's going
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  Speaker 1: to do it for this one. All of the information
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  Speaker 1: that goes with the episode can be found in the
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  Speaker 1: description box. What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program.
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  Speaker 1: The frantic search for the submersible that went missing at
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  Speaker 1: the wreckage site of the Titanic is fully underway. And overnight,
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  Speaker 1: search teams say that they have heard banging in the
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  Speaker 1: area where this submersible went missing. However, they say that
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  Speaker 1: they still haven't located the sub and they're not sure
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  Speaker 1: exactly where it is. And all of this is happening
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  Speaker 1: as time is running out. At the time of this recording,
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  Speaker 1: there's roughly 24 hours of oxygen left inside of that submersible,
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  Speaker 1: according to reports. So, let's dive into this article from
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  Speaker 1: The Independent, and let's get caught up on where things
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  Speaker 1: currently stand in the search for the Ocean Gate submersible. Headline,
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  Speaker 1: Banging Herd in Search for Missing Titanic Tourist Submarine with
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  Speaker 1: Less Than 24 Hours of Oxygen Left. And while that
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  Speaker 1: sounds great on the face of it, right? That they're
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  Speaker 1: alive and banging on this submarine. Think about how terrifying
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  Speaker 1: it must be to be in that little ass submarine
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  Speaker 1: and stuck wherever the hell they're stuck. Now, even if
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  Speaker 1: they get located, it's going to take some time, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: to retrieve that submarine from the bottom of the ocean.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer here
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  Speaker 1: or anything, but I would caution people to dampen any
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  Speaker 1: sort of expectation of a favorable outcome here. There's never
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  Speaker 1: been a rescue operation that's been performed at these depths.
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  Speaker 1: And with the time that they're up against, meaning that
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  Speaker 1: they're running out of air down in this submersible, they
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  Speaker 1: don't have very much time to formulate a plan up
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  Speaker 1: on the surface about how to even retrieve this submarine.
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  Speaker 1: This thing weighs like 21,000 pounds. It's not like if
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  Speaker 1: they find it, they're just going to be able to
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  Speaker 1: magically retrieve it and bring it up to the surface.
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  Speaker 1: So there's still a whole ass process that comes along
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  Speaker 1: with this. This article was authored by Holly Evans, Ariana Baio,
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  Speaker 1: and Alicia Rockman Sarkar. There are now less than 24
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  Speaker 1: hours of oxygen left in the missing Titan submersible as
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  Speaker 1: rescue efforts continue to find the five divers. A Canadian
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  Speaker 1: aircraft searching for the sub in the Atlantic Ocean detected
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  Speaker 1: intermittent banging noises from the vicinity of its last known location.
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  Speaker 1: So that's certainly a positive, right? I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be a Debbie Downer. At least, it seems like, getting
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  Speaker 1: a little information that the people aboard that sub are
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  Speaker 1: still alive. But that's only part of the equation. Even
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  Speaker 1: if they are alive, and they locate them in that submarine,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have to retrieve it. And how they're
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  Speaker 1: going to do that is anybody's guess. The discovery was
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  Speaker 1: shared via internal emails sent to the heads of the
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  Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security. The crew searching for the missing
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  Speaker 1: sub heard banging sounds every 30 minutes on Tuesday, and
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  Speaker 1: again four hours later, after additional sonar devices were deployed.
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  Speaker 1: CEO and founder of OceanGate Expeditions, Stockton Rush, British billionaire, explorer,
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  Speaker 1: Hamish Harding, renowned French diver, Paul-Henri Nargiolet, and Pakistani businessman,
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  Speaker 1: Shahzada Dawood, and his 19-year-old son, Suleiman Dawood, are on
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  Speaker 1: the OceanGate Expedition submersible Titan. The watercraft submerged on Sunday morning,
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  Speaker 1: from its support vessel to travel to the Titanic wreckage,
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  Speaker 1: which sits at a depth of 12,500 feet. About an
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  Speaker 1: hour and 45 minutes later, the Titan lost contact with
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  Speaker 1: its mothership, the Polar Prince authorities said. The Titan is
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  Speaker 1: equipped with a four-day emergency oxygen supply. It is estimated
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  Speaker 1: that the five missing passengers have less than 24 hours
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  Speaker 1: of oxygen supply left inside the vessel.
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  Speaker 2: The U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Coast Guard and Canadian Coast Guard are involved in rescue efforts. U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Coast Guard don't know the source of that noise. Rear
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  Speaker 1: Admiral John Mauger of the U.S. Coast Guard, who is
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  Speaker 1: leading the search for the Titan submersible, has told CBS
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  Speaker 1: News that this continues to be a complex search. Mauger
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  Speaker 1: confirms that an aircraft with sonar buoys detected noise in
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  Speaker 1: the water yesterday, but adds, We don't know the source
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  Speaker 1: of that noise.
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  Speaker 2: He said that he shared the data with the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Navy. So they heard the noise and they're speculating or
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  Speaker 1: people out there are speculating that it's the passengers aboard
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  Speaker 1: that submersible. But they haven't found the submersible itself. So
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  Speaker 1: that's a little confusing. Couldn't you just trace where the
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  Speaker 1: noise was coming from and then follow that noise pattern
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  Speaker 1: back to the submersible? And I'm asking a question here
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know. how any of this works underwater, right?
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  Speaker 1: We've never really explored anything like this. There's never been
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  Speaker 1: a wreckage at 12,500 feet where a rescue operation has
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  Speaker 1: been attempted. But I would think that if you could
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  Speaker 1: find noise down there, you could find where that noise
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  Speaker 1: is coming from. Where is the Titanic wreckage? Believed to
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  Speaker 1: be unsinkable, the Titanic famously sunk after hitting an iceberg
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  Speaker 1: during its maiden voyage on April 15th, 1912. killing 1,500
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  Speaker 1: of its passengers. The discovery of the wreckage in 1985,
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  Speaker 1: approximately 370 miles from the coast of Newfoundland in Canada,
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  Speaker 1: captured the public imagination, and 250 people have now made
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  Speaker 1: the dangerous dive down to the seabed. The operator of
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  Speaker 1: the missing submersible, Ocean Gate Expeditions, takes paying tourists down
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  Speaker 1: to the wreckage of the infamous ocean liner for a
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  Speaker 1: cost of $ 250, 000. For $ 250, 000, I'm going to need more
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  Speaker 1: than camping lights and a PlayStation controller if we're going
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  Speaker 1: down 12,500 feet. Deepwater specialist Magellan ready to provide support.
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  Speaker 1: In a statement, President Richard Garriott de Cayu of the
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  Speaker 1: Explorers Club said they are ready to provide the UK-based
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  Speaker 1: Magellan's remotely operated vehicle that is certified to travel as
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  Speaker 1: deep as 6,000 meters. In a statement on their website,
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  Speaker 1: deepwater specialist Magellan said they were contacted by OceanGate on
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  Speaker 1: Monday and immediately offered knowledge of the site and expertise
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  Speaker 1: in operating at depth. The company added that it has
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  Speaker 1: been working with the UK and the US agencies to
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  Speaker 1: move its specialist equipment and support crew from St. John's, Newfoundland,
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  Speaker 1: following instructions to mobilize from OceanGate. And I think the
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  Speaker 1: biggest thing here that's hindering things is the time frame
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  Speaker 1: that they have to work with. If this submarine had
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  Speaker 1: its own oxygen producing system on board, things might be different.
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  Speaker 1: They wouldn't be working with this accelerated time frame where
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  Speaker 1: they have to get to these people before.
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  Speaker 2: They run out of air.
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  Speaker 1: But with the time frame they're working with, even if
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  Speaker 1: you bring in every specialist out there, I would think
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  Speaker 1: that they're going to be up against it. Less than
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  Speaker 1: 24 estimated hours of oxygen left. The passengers on board
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  Speaker 1: the Titan are believed to have less than 24 hours
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  Speaker 1: of oxygen left as rescue teams fight against the clock
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  Speaker 1: to recover the submersible. On Tuesday, Captain Jamie Frederick of
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  Speaker 1: the U.S. Coast Guard said a unified command of multiple
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  Speaker 1: agencies was formed on Monday to tackle the very complex
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  Speaker 1: problem of finding the submersible in the Atlantic Ocean. A
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Canadian aircraft detected underwater noises with rescue teams concentrating their
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: efforts in the search areas. Banging noises were heard intermittently
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: every 30 minutes, but searchers.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: So far have yielded negative results.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: In underwater disasters, a crew unable to communicate with the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: surface relies on banging on their submersible's hull to be
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: detected by sonar. However, no official has publicly suggested that's
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the case, and noises underwater can come from a variety
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of sources, and this is something I want to caution.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: While it's great to think that they're down there and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: they're alive and they're banging on that submersible, we have
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to be careful because we don't know exactly what the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: source of these noises are. And while we all want
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: that storybook ending here, in reality and in the real world,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: we know that things like this very rarely end with
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: a happy ending. And I think that as each minute
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: slips away, we get closer and closer to the not
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: happy ending being a reality. Two more ships en route
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: to help with the search. More vessels and aircraft are
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: on their way to assist in the search for the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: missing submersible. They include the Royal Canadian Navy ship HMCS
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Glace Bay, which carries a medical team specializing in dive medicine.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: On board the ship is a six-person mobile submarine. hyperbaric
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: recompression chamber, which can be used to treat or prevent
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: decompression sickness. Divers who are exposed to rapid decreases in
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: pressure are at risk of nitrogen forming bubbles in tissue
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and blood. That's why you can't come up too quickly.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: If you do, you're going to be in a lot
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of trouble. So they have certain devices that you can
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: use in case you have to ascend in a quick
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: manner due to emergency or something. So they're bringing this
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: stuff on site to make sure that it's available if
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and when they're able to rescue these folks. The Canadian
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Coast Guard ship, John Cabot, is en route and expected
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to arrive later on Wednesday. A CCGS ship, the Terry Fox,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is already at the scene on standby to load search
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: and rescue equipment and personnel. The current record for underwater
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: rescue is at 1,575 feet. So that just shows you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the kind of daunting task that is ahead of this
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: team here trying to bring these people up. The current
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: record for the deepest underwater rescue mission ever achieved was 1,575
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: feet under the surface of the ocean. In 1973, the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Pisces III submersible was rescued after 80 hours after it
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: came into difficulty while laying telephone cables in the Celtic Sea,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: about 150 miles underwater. off the coast of Ireland. The Titan,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: which has been missing in the Atlantic Ocean since Sunday morning,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: was diving to a depth of 12,500 feet, or 2.4 miles.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: For context, the operating depth of a U.S. Navy Ohio-class
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: nuclear-powered submarine is around 1,000 feet, and the Blue Whale
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: reaches maximum depths at around 1,640 feet.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: So think about that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And then ask yourself, how are they going to even
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: begin to initiate a rescue and then to complete one
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and have it be a success? How are you going
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: to get down there? You have these very few submarines
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: around the world that can operate at that depth and
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: certainly not a big submarine like one of these nuclear
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: powered ones. Now, with that said, there's a lot of
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: people on scene or involved in this that are way
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: smarter than me. and probably have five or six or
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: ten different ways that they can get the sub if
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: they can find it. But having a plan and initiating
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: that plan and making it be successful are two very,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: very different things. During a press conference on Tuesday, Captain
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Jamie Frederick of the U.S. Coast Guard described the search
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: and rescue mission as very complex. And I think that's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: an understatement. There is not an environment on Earth that
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: is more unforgiving... than where this submersible finds itself trapped
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: as of right now. And getting to them is basically impossible,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: especially if this sub is tangled up in the wreckage
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of the Titanic, like a friend of Hamish Harding said,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: missing sub could have become stuck under the Titanic propeller. Oh,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that's not terrifying or anything, huh? You're at the bottom
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: of the ocean, near the Titanic wreckage, and now the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: submarine's stuck under the propeller? A friend of Hamish Harding
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: who is currently aboard the missing sub, told the Today
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: program that the vessel could have gotten stuck underneath the
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Titanic's propellers. Colonel Terry Verda said that previous submersibles have
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: gotten caught behind walls and propellers due to the dangerous
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: nature of the dive. So that adds a whole different wrinkle.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: If they're stuck down there underneath debris of the Titanic
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: wreck itself, I have zero idea how they would even
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: begin to remove something like that. Under normal circumstances, you
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: could get like robots down there or divers or something
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and have them untangle it using, you know, saws or whatever.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But down here as it is, it's very difficult to
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: get down there even with like robots. So they certainly
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: have a gigantic task ahead of them, even if they
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: locate this submersible. But the good news for the team,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: if they are alive, is that two of the divers
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that are with them are considered consummate professionals. And I
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: don't know how much comfort that will bring to the
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: people stuck in this immersible, but at least you have
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: people who are experienced at being down at these depths, right?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta try and look for whatever positive
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: you can if you're stuck in this immersible. Two missing
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: divers described as consummate professionals. A businessman who has made
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the deep sea voyage to the wreck of the Titanic
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: has expressed confidence in the Titan crew and said there's
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: a good chance that they will be found. Osten Fanning
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: told BBC Radio 4 Today program he had been on
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the submersible with pilot Paul-Henri Nargellet and OceanGate chief executive
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and founder Stockton Rush, who are both reportedly on board
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the missing vessel. The two guys on the sub currently,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: so Paul and Stockton, are both consummate professionals, he said.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: So I hope that their calm and their cool nature
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: under these circumstances helps the other people that are in
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the submarine remain calm. But besides that, I really don't
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: see any positives here, folks. And unfortunately, I don't see
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a Hallmark movie type of ending playing out. Either way,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: we'll be here following along as it all unfolds. All right, folks,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this one. All of
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: the information that goes with the episode can be found
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to the program. In this episode, we're going to take
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a dive back into the situation that's unfolding in In
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Over the wreckage of the Titanic. As the Ocean Gate Expedition. Submersible.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Remains lost. And now time is certainly of an essence.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Previously when we were discussing this. They had roughly 24
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: hours of oxygen remaining. Well now that supply obviously has dwindled.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And unfortunately.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: The search and rescue team doesn't seem to be any
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: closer to finding the submersible. So let's dive into this
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: article from The Independent and let's get caught up and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: see where things currently stand. Headline, under 20 hours of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: oxygen left in missing Titanic Taurus submarine as banging heard
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: in the search. This article was authored by Ariana Baio
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and Holly Evans. There are now less than 20 hours
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: of oxygen left in the missing Titan submersible as rescue
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: efforts continue for the five passengers. A Canadian aircraft searching
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: for the sub in the Atlantic Ocean detected intermittent banging
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: coming from the vicinity of its last known location. The
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: crew searching for the missing sub heard banging sounds every
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: 30 minutes on Tuesday and again four hours later after
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: additional sonar devices were deployed.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: However, the U.S.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Coast Guard clarified that they don't know the source of
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: that noise. So that's the caveat, right? You want to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: dangle that carrot with a little bit of hope, but
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: at the same time, we have to understand that they
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: don't know where this noise is coming from. It's not
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: like they can just flip on a computer screen, punch
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: in some coordinates, and find this submarine. Now, under most circumstances,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: they'd be able to do just that, but there's no
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: kind of beacon in this submarine. And the only way
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: this submarine can communicate is via text message. Oh, did
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I mention that GPS is useless in a submarine? The
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: navigation system depends on.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Radio waves, right?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So those radio waves, they'll break down in liquids, and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: that includes seawater. So you can't have the GPS, so
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: they can't track them the way they'd be able to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: track something like this if it was on land. So
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: it makes it even that much more difficult to figure
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: out where this submarine even is. And without any contact
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: from this submersible, it's going to be almost impossible, in
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: my opinion, for them to pinpoint the location in time.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: And not only pinpoint the location, but then they have
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to rescue the people that are in that submersible. And
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: with the time limits and the time restrictions that they're facing,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I just don't know how that's going to occur. But
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: it's not like these passengers weren't aware of the risks
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: that they were taking. Titanic sub passengers forced to sign
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: chilling death waiver before tourist excursion. A man who visited
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the Titanic wreckage in the same submersible that is now
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: missing in the Atlantic has revealed the jarringly extensive waiver
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: passengers were forced to sign. Before going on the expedition.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: So it's not like it's a big surprise to these folks.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Who are out here living this kind of lifestyle. That
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: something could go drastically wrong.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: On an expedition.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: And it could lead to serious injury or death. And
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a few of these people anyway. Were people who were
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: living on the edge. Going to different expeditions. Going on
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: different adventures such as this. So when you tempt fate
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that many times.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Eventually.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Fate pays attention, and you find yourself in a situation
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: such as this. It's just part and parcel if you're
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: going to be an adventurer or somebody who goes on
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: these kinds of crazy, dangerous expeditions. But that said, that
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean I have any less empathy for these people.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of respect for people that have
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the courage to go to places where other people folks
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: won't go. But my biggest criticism here, I think, has
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to do with the state of that vehicle of the submersible.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And when you have reports of people such as Mr.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Pogue from over at CBS talking about how they're using
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: off-shelf components, using the video game controller. All of that
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: points me to somebody trying to skimp on design cost
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: and how much it's going to cost you as far
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: as the overhead to get this sub.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: In the water.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Now look, if you want to create that kind of
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: submarine and then go down to the Titanic on your own, hey, great.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: But if people are paying and you have a company
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: who is accepting their money to take them down to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: this wreck site, I would think that off-shelf components wouldn't
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: even be a thought. With something as serious and as
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: dangerous and as alien as the Titanic wreck site is,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: you would think that the vehicle would be made out
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: of the most sturdy, most indestructible material you could find.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Especially looking at the price tag that Ocean Gate was
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: charging for people to go on these expeditions. Then, of course,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: there's somebody who has been on this submersible before who
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: has a different opinion. And that gentleman's name is Aaron Newman.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Former Titan passenger says he felt safe in the submersible.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Aaron Newman, a former Titan passenger, told Today that he
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: felt safe the entire time he rode in the submersible.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I felt safe the whole time. They were a professional crew, Mr.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Newman said.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't doubt that. I'm sure they were all
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: very professional. It's the actual construction and building of the
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: submersible that I'm worried about.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Newman took a trip to the Titanic wreckage in 2021
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: on Ocean Gate Expedition Submersible. Obviously, this is the type
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: of exploration that's doing things. This is not a Disney ride.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: We're going places that very few people have been.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Newman knows several of the people inside the missing sub
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and hopes for their safe return. Well, yeah, I think
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: everybody's hoping for that. But I think those expectations need
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to be tampered down. Considering all we know here, considering
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: all that we've learned, are any of you confident that
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: we're going to have a moment like we did in, say,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that Thai cave where those kids were rescued? I don't
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: see that happening. I don't see a happy ending to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: this one. Unfortunately, this has tragedy written all over it. Now,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: there are more assets on the way or already arriving.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And according to the Coast Guard, more assets are en
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: route to the search area where the Titan submersible may
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: be missing, including several Canadian ships and research vessels. In
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a statement posted on Tuesday, June 20th, the Coast Guard
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: listed the number of new assets. Canadian CGS John Cabot,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Canadian CGS Anne Harvey, Canadian CGS Terry Fox, Canadian CGS
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Atlantic Merlin remotely operated vehicle, Motor vessel, Horizon Arctic. Commercial vessel,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Scandive Inland, remotely operated vehicle. French research vessel, La Atlantique,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: remotely operated vehicle. His Majesty's Canadian ship, Glace Bay. The
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Glace ship contains a decompression chamber and medical personnel aboard
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: as well. We talked about that ship a little bit earlier,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and now several of these ships have actually arrived on scene.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And those vessels are the John Cabot the Scandi Vinland,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and the Atlantic Merlin vessel, they all arrived at the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: location where the U.S. Coast Guard and other authorities are
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: searching for the missing submersible with five passengers. Unfortunately, the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: weather conditions at the site are not great. Weather conditions
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: today are windy.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: The U.S.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Coast Guard said weather conditions in the remote area they
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: are searching for the missing submersible had winds of 23
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: miles per hour and gusts of up to 30 miles
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: per hour. The ocean has swells of six to seven feet.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Visibility was thought to be improving on Wednesday as prior
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: days were hazy. So think about what they're up against.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Think about the monumental task that these search and rescue
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: teams are dealing with. Not only are you in the ocean,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: but the waves are coming at you six to seven feet,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: 30 mile per hour winds and the air temperatures around
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: 50 degrees. Meanwhile, you have all of your other activities
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you have to deal with as far as the search
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and rescue. And it just makes things that much more difficult.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Then you add on the time frame that we're dealing
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: with here, the constraints of the air running out.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Boy, oh boy, this is not looking good.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: And back in November of 2022, the CEO of the company,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Stockton Rush, well, he went on a podcast with David
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Pogue And in that podcast, Stockton Rush said that, you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: at some point, safety is just pure waste. I mean,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: if you just want to be safe, don't get out
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: of bed. Don't get in your car. Don't do anything.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: At some point, you're going to take some risk. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: it's really a risk and reward kind of question. Well,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree completely with that. I mean, if you
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: want to live your life like this, great. But if
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you're going to be taking other people down to this
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: wreck site and you're charging them that kind of money,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: At the very least, the submersible has to be up
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: to standard, right? I mean, if you're going to go
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: climb Mount Everest, you have to make sure that your
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: crampons are working. You better have an ice axe. And
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: if that stuff doesn't work and it breaks down, you're
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: in big trouble. And obviously the stakes are even higher
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: in a submersible at the bottom of the ocean. So
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: while risk and reward is something that adventurers and explorers
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: are always weighing, at the very least you should be
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: able to rely on your gear or have a pretty
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: confident view that that gear, or in this case the vessel,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: isn't going to fail you. Can you imagine putting in
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: an ice screw every time you're going up a face
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and wondering if it's going to bust off? You'd never
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: be able to send any routes home. You'd be worried
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: about falling off the mountain all day. So, at the
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: very least, you should have the comfort of knowing that
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the vehicle you're in, the vessel, is seaworthy and capable
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: of going down to these depths and not running into
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: too many serious issues. Now, of course, you can't say
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: that there's going to be no issues whatsoever, because... Sometimes
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: shit happens. But I think that we're going to find
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: out as this all moves forward that the submarine was
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: shoddily made, that the parts that were used in it,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: as we're hearing, were parts that should not have been
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: used in a submersible that's going down to these depths.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And we're probably going to hear some more about people
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: who have had concerns about the seaworthiness of this vessel
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and who were ultimately ignored by Mr. Stockton Rush. So
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: we're going to see a flurry of those kinds of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: stories as well because there's no way that this thing,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: if it was constructed the way that they're saying it
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: was constructed, was up to standard and that it was
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: something that should have even been dumped into this water
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: with paying customers inside of it. And remember, I'm not
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: saying that Stockton Rush shouldn't make a submersible and go
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: wherever he wants.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I don't care what you do.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: But the second you have other people inside of that
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: submersible with you, Now, you have a lot of responsibility
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: to those people to make sure that you have a
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: quality vessel. And from everything that we've heard, I'm not
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: too sure that that's the case. But as far as
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: the location of this submersible, of the people inside of it,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: they still don't know. But with the new resources that
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: are arriving on scene, hopefully they're able to locate this submersible,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and then we can move on to the next step,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: which is... Are there people in there that are still alive?
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And B, how do we get them up? All right, folks,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this one. And usually
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  Speaker 1: I don't have too many evening updates, but considering the
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  Speaker 1: time sensitivities on this story, if something breaks tonight, I'll
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  Speaker 1: have an evening update and we'll see what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
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  Speaker 1: be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the program. The hunt for the missing
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Titan submersible came to an end yesterday when a debris
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  Speaker 1: field was found not far from the Titanic wreckage itself.
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  Speaker 1: And according to reports, the submersible was lost on the
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  Speaker 1: way down to the wreck site. After about an hour
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  Speaker 1: and 45 minutes into its descent, the mothership that was
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  Speaker 1: in control of the expedition lost contact with the submersible
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  Speaker 1: and they were never heard from again. And almost immediately
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  Speaker 1: the speculation began that the passengers on that submersible were
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: still alive and were trapped in the submersible and running
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  Speaker 1: out of oxygen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that wasn't the case.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, the submersible had imploded. And it imploded
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  Speaker 1: because it couldn't take the pressure at that depth. The
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  Speaker 1: structural integrity of the hull or some of the components...
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  Speaker 1: weren't capable of dealing with the rigors of working down
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  Speaker 1: at those depths. And while it might have worked a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times, that doesn't mean that it's always going
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  Speaker 1: to be a failsafe, and every time you go down
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  Speaker 1: and that's submersible, you're going to have the same results.
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, those five doomed souls found that out the
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  Speaker 1: hard way. But when I look at the whole entire
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  Speaker 1: scenario here, and then we talk about the possibilities of
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  Speaker 1: what could have happened, I think that If you're going
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  Speaker 1: to die in this submersible.
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  Speaker 2: It imploding.
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  Speaker 1: And you dying instantly is much more preferable than being
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  Speaker 1: stuck in that submersible at the bottom of the ocean
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  Speaker 1: with the oxygen running out, knowing that rescue is basically
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  Speaker 1: not an option. So if I had to choose between
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  Speaker 1: those two scenarios, I'd rather go in an instant. So
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  Speaker 1: if there's any kind of saving grace here, as morbid
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  Speaker 1: as it sounds, at least these folks ended up dying quickly.
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't a long, drawn-out process of unimaginable suffering.
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  Speaker 1: So if there's any silver lining, I think that is it.
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  Speaker 1: Today's article is from the New York Post. Headline, Titanic
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  Speaker 1: sub-passengers died instantly in catastrophic implosion as wreckage from doomed
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  Speaker 1: vessel discovered on the ocean floor. This article was authored
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  Speaker 1: by Andy Tillett, Stephen Vago, and Isabel Keene. The Titan submersible,
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  Speaker 1: carrying five tourists, including billionaires, suffered a catastrophic implosion on
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  Speaker 1: its trip to view the wreckage of the Titanic, killing
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  Speaker 1: all passengers instantly, the U.S. Coast Guard announced on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Debris from the wreckage discovered on the ocean floor Thursday
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  Speaker 1: is consistent with a catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber,
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  Speaker 1: effectively meaning the sub was crushed under the weight of
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  Speaker 1: the sea and at some point after it lost contact
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  Speaker 1: with the surface vessel on Sunday. Wait a minute, so
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  Speaker 1: you mean to tell me that this DIY submersible wasn't
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  Speaker 1: ready for the rigors that it was going to face
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  Speaker 1: when it got to depth? Come on now, a guy
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  Speaker 1: that uses video game controllers and off-the-shelf components to build
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  Speaker 1: a submersible to go down 12,500 feet, screwed up on
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  Speaker 1: the hull as well?
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  Speaker 2: I am absolutely shocked to hear that. The U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Coast Guard officials said five major pieces of debris from
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  Speaker 1: the Ocean Gate vessel were found 1,600 feet from the
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  Speaker 1: 1912 shipwreck. Boy, talk about ironic. You go down there
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  Speaker 1: to take a look at what is basically a gigantic
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  Speaker 1: graveyard only to become part of that graveyard yourself. It
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  Speaker 1: is currently unknown what could have caused the implosion or when,
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  Speaker 1: as the sub made its journey to the ocean floor 12,500
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  Speaker 1: feet below. The Coast Guard added they don't have an
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  Speaker 1: answer for prospects of recovering the bodies. Pointing out the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of the ocean is an incredibly unforgiving environment to
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  Speaker 1: both search and recover debris from. Now debris, a little
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  Speaker 1: bit easier, right? Get down there, throw a rove down
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  Speaker 1: there like they did here. Have it roll around, find
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  Speaker 1: the debris field or whatever the item is that you're
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  Speaker 1: looking for. And then they have those crane systems on
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  Speaker 1: those boats that they bring out. and they have gigantic
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  Speaker 1: chains that they drop down to tether to a submarine
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  Speaker 1: or a ship that's on the bottom of the ocean,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how they retrieve it. But as far as
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  Speaker 1: a rescue mission taking place on the ocean floor, that
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  Speaker 1: was always just a fantasy in my opinion. There was
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  Speaker 1: no way that they were ever going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to get to anybody down there, even if they were
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  Speaker 1: trapped in that submersible. Now, probably could have gotten to
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  Speaker 1: them with that rove, right? Taking a look at what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. But as far as getting anyone down there
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  Speaker 1: to help them, I don't think that was ever going
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  Speaker 1: to be something that was a reality. And as far
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  Speaker 1: as retrieving the bodies, I don't think that's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen either. The passengers lost on the vessel were British
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  Speaker 1: billionaire explorer Hamish Harding, French Titanic expert Paul Henry Nargile,
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  Speaker 1: Ocean Gate CEO Stockton Rush, Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood, and
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  Speaker 1: his 19-year-old son Suleiman. We offer our most heartfelt condolences
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  Speaker 1: for the loved ones of the crew, Coast Guard Captain
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Frederick said on Thursday. Reached at his home in
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  Speaker 1: Seattle on Thursday, Stockton's son Richard would only tell the Post,
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  Speaker 1: we don't wish to speak at this time, through a
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  Speaker 1: doorbell camera. I don't blame his kid for not wanting
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  Speaker 1: to talk here. To us, it's just a story about
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: some guy who built a submersible, but remember, that's this
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  Speaker 1: dude's dad, and his dad's dead now. With all of
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  Speaker 1: the other stuff that's certainly coming down the back end,
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  Speaker 1: as far as questions surrounding Ocean Gate, I'm not shocked
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  Speaker 1: to see his son not want to answer any questions,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: never mind the legal liability that the company might have
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: here as far as getting sued moving forward. So for
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the son, not saying anything yet is probably the.
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  Speaker 2: Right course of action. The U.S.
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  Speaker 1: 1st Coast Guard District confirmed the discovery Thursday afternoon, saying
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  Speaker 1: a remotely operated vehicle, an unmanned undersea probe, had discovered
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  Speaker 1: debris from the Titan, including its nose cone and the
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  Speaker 1: front end bell of the vessel's pressure hull. So obviously
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: these are parts of this immersible that are unmistakable. So
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  Speaker 1: when they got down there with that rove and got
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  Speaker 1: to that debris field, it wasn't hard for them to
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  Speaker 1: tell after a few minutes what they had stumbled upon.
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  Speaker 1: A debris field was discovered within the search area by
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  Speaker 1: an ROV near the Titanic. Rear Admiral John Mauger said
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  Speaker 1: adding a smaller debris field within the debris field had
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  Speaker 1: been found by the Odysseus 6K, an ROV made by
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  Speaker 1: Pelagic Research Services, which had been launched from the Canadian
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  Speaker 1: ship the Horizon Arctic. The Coast Guard also said the
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  Speaker 1: debris and information was still being evaluated. Rescue expert David Means,
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  Speaker 1: who was in contact with those close to some of
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  Speaker 1: the victims, said the group was informed that the debris
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  Speaker 1: found was a landing frame and a rear cover from
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the submersible. Again, this is very unconventional submarine. The rear
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: cover is that pointy end of it, and the landing
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  Speaker 1: frame is this little frame that it seems to sit on.
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  Speaker 1: That confirms it's the submarine. Means, who was friends with
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: billionaire Harding, and Narjaleh told Sky News. Means, whose nickname
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  Speaker 1: is the Shipwreck Hunter, further said he has been told
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  Speaker 1: the submersible's hull remains missing, but the discovery of those
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  Speaker 1: pieces of debris could only have happened if the submersible
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  Speaker 1: had fragmented, meaning the vessel had imploded.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the.
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  Speaker 1: The ocean floor discovery of the debris brought an end
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  Speaker 1: to the frantic search for the five who were aboard
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  Speaker 1: the vessel, which had started on Sunday when it had
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  Speaker 1: been reported missing by the crew of the Polar Prince,
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  Speaker 1: the ship which the submersible had been launched from. Ocean
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  Speaker 1: Gate told the Coast Guard the Titan was equipped with
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  Speaker 1: only 96 hours of oxygen after it submerged off the
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  Speaker 1: coast of Newfoundland earlier that day, starting a race against
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  Speaker 1: time to find the vessel, its five inhabitants, who had
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  Speaker 1: been sealed into the sub from the outside with 17 bolts.
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  Speaker 2: Now look again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not one of these people saying that these guys
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  Speaker 1: are crazy for chasing out their dreams or going on adventures.
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  Speaker 1: My issue is when you put the trust into somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's a guide or putting together an expedition, they have
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that they're taking it seriously and they're
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  Speaker 1: putting together an environment that's going to be safe for
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: all of the participants of the expedition that they're putting together.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously that wasn't the case here because this submersible
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't up to snuff. It had been thought that the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: vessel could be trapped in the wreckage of the Titanic,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: but intact 12,500 feet below the surface of the water
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  Speaker 1: with air running out. And again, that would have been
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  Speaker 1: the worst case scenario in my opinion, because I don't
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: think there's any way those people were getting back up
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  Speaker 1: to the surface if they were found down there. What
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: are you going to do? Send down one of those
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: roves and maybe try and bump it out of the wreckage?
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's people with better ideas than that, but
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I can't figure out for the life of me how
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  Speaker 1: anyone thought that they were going to be able to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: rescue people in this submarine if that was the scenario.
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  Speaker 1: The frantic search saw a coordinated effort from the U.S.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: and Canadian Coast Guards, as well as hundreds of vessels
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  Speaker 1: dispatched to the region to help from various nations. One
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  Speaker 1: of the major problems with rescue efforts was the depth.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: as no successful rescue has ever been made deeper than 1,750
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: feet from the surface before. So we're talking, what, 11
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: times deeper or so where the Titanic is at? It
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: seems like an absolute impossibility to me. Only a handful
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: of craft are able to operate at the depth required.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Two ROVs were dispatched to the area of the Titanic wreck,
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  Speaker 1: 350 nautical miles from the Canadian island of Newfoundland. The
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  Speaker 1: Victor 6000, aboard the ship La Atlante by French authorities
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  Speaker 1: and the Odysseus 6K on Horizon Arctic. Less than two
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: hours after the sub reportedly ran out of oxygen, the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Coast Guard announced the Odysseus had reached the ocean floor
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: as the frantic search escalated. The Canadian vessel Horizon Arctic
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  Speaker 1: has deployed an ROV that has reached the seafloor and
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: began its search for the missing sub, the agency said.
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  Speaker 1: The Coast Guard also said that La Atlantique would soon
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: deploy its ROV. Upon discovery that the Titan had imploded,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Ocean Gate paid tribute in a statement saying, These men
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  Speaker 1: were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure
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  Speaker 1: and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world's oceans.
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  Speaker 1: Our hearts are with these five souls and every member
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  Speaker 1: of their families during this tragic time. We grieve the
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: loss of life and joy they brought to everyone they knew. Well, folks,
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  Speaker 1: that brings it to a conclusion. At least the search
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: for the submersible and the question surrounding what happened to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: it now comes who's to blame because you know that's
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: about to start. There's going to be a lot of
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: finger pointing and there's going to be a reckoning as
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: far as what happened here. So we're going to keep
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: following the story. We'll stay on top of it and
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: we'll see where it goes and how it evolves and
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: how all of this plays out. All right, folks, that's
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: going to do it for this one. All of the
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: information that goes with the episode can be found in
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the description box.