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Credlin | 12 August · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peedo Kranland live on Skyins Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: Great to have your company as we kick off a
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Speaker 3: parliamentary sitting fortnite. They're back after a five week of
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Speaker 3: break labor, though falling even further behind in the polls today,
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Speaker 3: with the prospect of Behung Parliament looking likely even a
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Speaker 3: loss now with a coalition win is possible. Conflict of
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Speaker 3: interest claims mounting against Matt Kean as it takes on
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Speaker 3: dual roles as the government's chief climate bureaucrat. At the
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Speaker 3: same time is has taken a senior role with a
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Speaker 3: private green investment fund. This raises a lot of red flags.
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Speaker 3: We'll get into that a bit later in the show.
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Speaker 3: Last CF's Defense Minister after the election, Andrew Hasty, will
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Speaker 3: demand an urgent build up of capability and personnel so
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Speaker 3: that we're ready to defend ourselves within two years. Andrew
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Speaker 3: Hasty on the show tonight to explain exactly what one's
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Speaker 3: done and why Australia needs it, and more concern too
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Speaker 3: about Palestinian visas and missing security checks. Azazio boss Mike
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Speaker 3: Burgess declares harboring sympathies for hummus isn't.
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Speaker 2: A deal breaker for a visa.
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Speaker 3: Now in Germany they're deporting anyone who sympathizes with from
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Speaker 3: us here, Labor's importing them and this has got to stop.
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Speaker 1: MUSS a listed terrorist organization. It has political objectives which
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Speaker 1: it believes should be achieved through violence, and anybody who
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Speaker 1: supports using violent means to achieve political objectives is not
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Speaker 1: welcome in Australia and should not come to Australia.
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Speaker 3: But first, lasting our country needs right now is more
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Speaker 3: hard to integrate migrants angry and hostile to others on
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Speaker 3: grounds of religion. But that's almost certainly what we'll get
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Speaker 3: under the Anthony elmhen Ezi government as they try and
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Speaker 3: use visas to buy votes in Western Sydney and Melbourne
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Speaker 3: electorates threat in recent polls from Muslim activists. That's why,
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Speaker 3: if you ask me, Tony Berg was moved into the
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Speaker 3: Home Affairs portfolio to shore up his own seat with
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Speaker 3: the time was the population and that of neighboring labour seats.
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Speaker 3: Now so far, about thirtyeen hundred gardens have come to
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Speaker 3: Australia on temporary visas since the October seven atrocity last year,
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Speaker 3: even though about two thirds of Garzens are Hamas supporters
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Speaker 3: and think that the murderous rampage into Israel and the
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Speaker 3: hostage taking was justified.
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Speaker 2: As well as all.
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Speaker 3: Those already here, another thousand or more have had visas granted,
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Speaker 3: but they've not yet arrived, And from the outset, I've
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Speaker 3: expressed strong concerns about the security profile of these people
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Speaker 3: were letting into Australia given the war zone they're coming
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Speaker 3: from the fact that so many of them sympathize with
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Speaker 3: Hamas and the practical reality that we've got no constular
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Speaker 3: present presence on the ground to check their bona.
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Speaker 1: Fideis what's the average processing time for a visa like this?
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Speaker 2: Globally for a visit a visa?
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Speaker 4: The medium processing.
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Speaker 2: Times one day? One day? Does that sound right to you?
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Speaker 1: Is it possible that a visa was approved.
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Speaker 2: In a single hour?
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Speaker 5: Sinator, It is possible.
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Speaker 1: How could you possibly do all the necessary security and
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Speaker 1: other checks in just an hour from an applicant? I
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Speaker 1: mean that's lightning speed approval.
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Speaker 4: When we apply that that vast range of information to
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Speaker 4: consideration of visit avisits so if you look globally, a
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Speaker 4: very large number of our visit a visas would be
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Speaker 4: done inside an hour.
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Speaker 2: It is a joke.
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Speaker 3: Even the identity documents that might have come for these
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Speaker 3: people from the Palaestinian authority needs scrutiny. That's the same
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Speaker 3: organization that pays a cash bonus to the families of
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Speaker 3: suicide bombers.
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Speaker 2: And we would be mad to trust them, wouldn't we?
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Speaker 3: Today the government has told us Australians not to worry
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Speaker 3: because our security agencies they imply have it under control.
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Speaker 3: But do they, because yesterday we learn that there's no
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Speaker 3: automatic security checking for anyone coming here from Gaza, even
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Speaker 3: though importing foreign hatreds to Australia is hardly in our
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Speaker 3: national interest. On the Insider's program, yesterday, AZIO Boss Mike
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Speaker 3: Burgess so that his agency did security checks on people
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Speaker 3: coming here when and only when they've been referred to
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Speaker 3: ASIO from the Department of Home Affairs.
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Speaker 6: There are processes in place, and I can assure your
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Speaker 6: audience that when things get referred to ASIO, we deal
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Speaker 6: with them effectively. Of course, there might be times when
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Speaker 6: they didn't get referred to us in time. Once we
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Speaker 6: become aware of them, we're able to do the assessments
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Speaker 6: and deal with them effectively.
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Speaker 3: But he bakes the point that not everyone, even coming
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Speaker 3: from a place like Gaza our.
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Speaker 7: Security checked, so they've been subjected to the normal testing.
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Speaker 6: Is that right people come into this country, that there's
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Speaker 6: a visa process in place and they've gone through that
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Speaker 6: visa process.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Sorry, Those from Gaza who've come here have gone through
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Speaker 6: the very standard checks. They've gone through a visa birth,
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Speaker 6: they've been issued at visa, they've gone through the process.
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Speaker 6: Part of that visa process is with criteria hit. They
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Speaker 6: referred to my organization and AZIO does its thing.
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Speaker 3: Frankly, the idea we would take anyone from Gaza without
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Speaker 3: properly security checking in first is appalling. Yes, Gas is
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Speaker 3: a dangerous place, but it's not our job to put
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Speaker 3: our own security at risk to solve a problem. It's
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Speaker 3: no Australia's fault and is not Australius to fix. Former
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Speaker 3: RASIO boss Denis Richardson thinks that no one should come
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Speaker 3: here from the Middle East without a security check.
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Speaker 5: As a general rule, I think you do need very
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Speaker 5: careful security checks in respect of anyone coming out of
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Speaker 5: Gaza at this point.
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Speaker 3: And here's the position of the coalition made strongly and
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Speaker 3: simply by Shadow Minister James Patterson.
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Speaker 1: The acceptable number of Hamas supporters to be brought into
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Speaker 1: this country is zero.
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Speaker 3: And yet we've already taken hundreds and hundreds of these
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Speaker 3: people from Gaza, some of the many of them without
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Speaker 3: security checking, and we're set to take hundreds, maybe thousands more.
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Speaker 3: Now this is simply wrong. Australia is on the opposite
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Speaker 3: side of the world to this conflict. Muslim neighbors in
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Speaker 3: the region Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and more ll none
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Speaker 3: of them are taking any citizens at all from Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Now ask yourself, why why these Muslim nations, the neighbors
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Speaker 3: of the Ghazans, so resolutely keeping their own borders shut,
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Speaker 3: while we're throwing ours wide open, no security checks at all,
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Speaker 3: and giving them not just a temporary visa, but if
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Speaker 3: reports are accurate, under Tony Burke, under Anthony Albanezi, permanent
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Speaker 3: residency in this country.
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Speaker 2: This is madness.
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Speaker 3: It's letting down all the Australians here, all twenty seven
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Speaker 3: million of us. It's a sign of a government that
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Speaker 3: doesn't take national security seriously. Even Germany's socialist government has
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Speaker 3: declared that Hamas supporters must be deported if they can be.
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Speaker 3: But for many of this government, ending the suffering of
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Speaker 3: people in Gaza seems far more important than securing the
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Speaker 3: safety of people in Australia.
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Speaker 8: They failed to even acknowledge the scale of killing of
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Speaker 8: Gazans or Palestinians. Forty thousand have lost their lives, and
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Speaker 8: apparently the coalition doesn't have anything to say about that,
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Speaker 8: and certainly doesn't believe, by what I can see, that
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Speaker 8: we should be providing a pathway for Palestinians to be
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Speaker 8: able to get out. Instead of relying on someone chasing headlines,
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Speaker 8: I'd rather rely on the hard yaker of our national
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Speaker 8: security agencies to get it right.
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Speaker 3: Is it any wonder Labor is languishing in the polls.
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Speaker 3: They just don't get it, and if they do, they
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Speaker 3: just don't care. The only thing that matters to Labor
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Speaker 3: is trying to hold on to power whatever.
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Speaker 2: It takes, and just on those polls.
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Speaker 3: The latest newspot today confirms the steady erosion of the
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Speaker 3: Albanese government's standing. Not only is Labour's priory vote down
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Speaker 3: a further point to thirty two percent, below where it
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Speaker 3: was at the last election, but the coalition is up
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Speaker 3: in two party preferred to party preferred terms, it's tied
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Speaker 3: at fifty to fifty, which means I hung parliaments likely,
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Speaker 3: probably a Labor government dependent on the Greens and all
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Speaker 3: the Teals for support. Now, what's more, fifty seven percent
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Speaker 3: think a minority government is likely, even though a Labour
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Speaker 3: Green's Albanesi government would be even more climate and identity
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Speaker 3: obsessed than what we've got now with the tax cuts delivered,
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Speaker 3: energy subsidies starting to flow and hundreds of thousands of
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Speaker 3: age care workers and childcare workers getting an extra fifteen
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Speaker 3: percent in their pay packets directly funded by taxpayers, or
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Speaker 3: there's hardly any scope for more electoral bribery, as inflationary
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Speaker 3: as it all is. The latest resolved poll two has
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Speaker 3: Labour's primary vote eight percentage points behind the coalition Anthony
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Speaker 3: Albanesi and Peter Dutton or their neck and neck has
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Speaker 3: referred Prime minister. Now, it's hard to know what rabbits
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Speaker 3: the PM can pull out of his hat. You certainly
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Speaker 3: known Bob Hawk or Paul Keating. The challenge for the coalition, though, now,
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Speaker 3: is to convert people's disappointment with Labor and a weak
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Speaker 3: prime minister who who's absolutely out of his depth into
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Speaker 3: positive support for the alternative. So far, there's that nuclear commitment,
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Speaker 3: there's commitment to much lower immigration, there's a promise to
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Speaker 3: keep Scott Morrison super for housing policy from the last election.
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Speaker 3: But as good as the polls might look for the opposition,
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Speaker 3: there's no win without policies, and that's where the front
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Speaker 3: bench needs to lift and match their effort to that
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Speaker 3: of the leader. And look, I'm as ready to applaud
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Speaker 3: someone having a go as the next person, but that
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Speaker 3: doesn't mean that every child must win a prize. I'man
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Speaker 3: all credit to our magnificent Olympian team that's bringing back
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Speaker 3: a record swag of medals.
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Speaker 2: But a dad.
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Speaker 3: Performance is a dad performance. There's no point pretending otherwise.
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Speaker 3: I mean, break dancing was one of those new sports
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Speaker 3: introduced to us at Paris. At best, it's a cross
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Speaker 3: between dancing and gymnastics. I mean, what you can see
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Speaker 3: there is some brilliant people that are re send red
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Speaker 3: bull competition. That's what it's supposed to look like. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: our competitor Rachel Gunn, a thirty six year old university
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Speaker 3: lecturer who wrote her thesis on gender in Sydney's breakdancing scene.
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Speaker 3: Well she got precisely zero points in three rounds of competition.
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Speaker 3: But anyone who says that she's a pretty ordinary performer.
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Speaker 3: All those criticisms have been called out as misogyny. Come on,
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Speaker 3: if we want to compete female or male, even you've
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Speaker 3: got to accept the umpire's decision and the views of
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Speaker 3: those who watch what you do. Former soccer Craig Foster
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Speaker 3: has hit out it and said that anyone who's criticizing
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Speaker 3: gun is un Australian.
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Speaker 2: They give me a break anyway you cut it.
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Speaker 3: Her performances were crap. How on earth did she even qualify?
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Speaker 3: But if you listen to the Prime Minister, she's a
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Speaker 3: role model, he says, who should be praised for having
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Speaker 3: a crack? Come on, I thought the whole point of
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Speaker 3: the Olympics was to celebrate competition, not mere participation. What
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Speaker 3: a waste of taxpayers money and what a cheap shot
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Speaker 3: to claim justifiable criticism isn't allowed because guns are woman.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's embarrassing to all the magnificent other female
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Speaker 3: athletes who have excelled. All right, let's got a camera
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Speaker 3: now for the headlines. Sky News Political reporter Trundy Macintosh.
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Speaker 9: Parliament's back from the midwinter break in, the government has
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Speaker 9: rushed in new laws to clean up the embattled Sea.
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Speaker 10: Affirm a you there is no place for criminality or
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Speaker 10: corruption in the construction industry.
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Speaker 9: New Minister Murray Watt wants to appoint an administrator for
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Speaker 9: the construction divisions of the Union after shocking allegations of
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Speaker 9: criminal misconduct. Fines in jail time would be imposed for
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Speaker 9: union officials who refuse to comply.
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Speaker 10: Bullying, thuggery and intimidation is unacceptable in any work place.
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Speaker 11: We all know that labor is not only donated to
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Speaker 11: by the CFMU. This legislation shows they are owned by
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Speaker 11: the CFMEU. Labor, though is yet to secure the numbers
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Speaker 11: to get the CFMEU changed through the Senate.
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Speaker 5: We're not going to be railroaded by the government's timetable.
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Speaker 8: Instead of relying on someone chasing headlines, I'd rather rely
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Speaker 8: on the hard yaker of our national security agencies.
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Speaker 9: Pressure grows for gambling reform. With the government still yet
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Speaker 9: to reveal its final position, a blanket ban on gambling
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Speaker 9: ads appears off the table, despite the advocacy of the
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Speaker 9: late Labor MP Peter Murphy, how.
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Speaker 12: About just for once today, just four once, put the
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Speaker 12: future of our kids first.
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Speaker 7: If the government doesn't legislate a complete ban on gambling advertising,
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Speaker 7: then they will.
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Speaker 13: Just prove that they're as gutless as all of their predecessors.
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Speaker 9: Former Prime Ministers John Howard and Malcolm Turnbull part of
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Speaker 9: an open letter pushing for change.
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Speaker 2: The entire time.
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Speaker 7: That he occupied my seat, he did absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 9: And an early era from the new Housing Minister Clara
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Speaker 9: O'Neil admitting she made an incorrect claim about Labour's own
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Speaker 9: build to rent scheme on breakfast Radio, and Neil claimed
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Speaker 9: Treasury had modeled the policy when it had not.
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Speaker 2: She's not properly across her brief.
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Speaker 9: Trudy Macintosh Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 3: That boarding school in camera. The Parliament's back in sessions.
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Speaker 3: So's my regular Monday Night guest, National Affairs editor for
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Speaker 3: The Australian, Dennis Shanahan. Well, terrific to have you back.
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Speaker 3: A good timing of course, at Parliament's returned. As I said,
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Speaker 3: we've got a news poll out today. Not good news
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Speaker 3: if you're on the government benches. It's reported a further
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Speaker 3: slump in Labour's primary, it's down to thirty two percent
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Speaker 3: the coalition up to thirty nine. They'd be hoping for
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Speaker 3: something with a four in front of it. To win
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Speaker 3: an election at thirty nine is pretty bloody good. At
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Speaker 3: seven point lead thereon primary is the widest gap between
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Speaker 3: the two majors since the failure of the Voice referendum
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Speaker 3: two pp. Adding the Greens preferences to Labor, that makes
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Speaker 3: it pretty tight. Fifty to fifty for the majors. Now
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Speaker 3: you go away on a break, Dennis, you think you
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Speaker 3: might come back and find the political landscapes changed dramatically,
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Speaker 3: But it's only got worse for Labor. This is absolutely
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Speaker 3: trend now on minority government or worse. If you look
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Speaker 3: at what's happened in the last couple of weeks.
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Speaker 2: How do you.
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Speaker 3: Read this because they've splashed around billions but they've got
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Speaker 3: no great return for it.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, obviously during the winter break, it's been five
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Speaker 7: six weeks away from Parliament and the government. Anthony Albanes
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Speaker 7: he's been trying to campaign around the nation. He's had
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Speaker 7: a ministerial shuffle, he's tried to pick up mistakes that
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Speaker 7: were made. They have, of course. On July one started
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Speaker 7: billions of dollars in tax cuts. There was also the
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Speaker 7: beginning of the three hundred dollars energy rebate, plus billions
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Speaker 7: billions being spent on taxpayer funded wage rises for age
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Speaker 7: care workers and now childcare workers and ultimately disability workers.
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Speaker 7: So the government is spending billions of taxpayers dollars and
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Speaker 7: so far what they have is exactly the same result
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Speaker 7: in newspoll that they had in June last year when
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Speaker 7: Parliament last sat. So five weeks of activity, billions and
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Speaker 7: billions of dollars, and the government has actually even gone
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Speaker 7: back marginally, and particularly on the management of issues.
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Speaker 2: We talked about the tax cuts.
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Speaker 3: We talked about the fact that by the time they
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Speaker 3: land increases in something you know, just electricity bills alone
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Speaker 3: has written them off. Now I make the point they've
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Speaker 3: got a shocking back end in terms of admin in
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Speaker 3: the labor government. They make all these big announcements, the
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Speaker 3: follow through the delivery of the details not there. We
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Speaker 3: know that in three of those states where there is
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Speaker 3: now this energy rebate, it can't be delivered or it
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Speaker 3: hasn't been delivered because of red taped and a lack
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Speaker 3: of interface between the Commonwealth payment systems and what's happening
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Speaker 3: at a state level. These guys all had no cowboy Denners.
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Speaker 3: I think that's part of the problem. They're not believable
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Speaker 3: and even when they make a commitment, it's not being
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Speaker 3: delivered or felt by families.
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Speaker 7: Well, that's right, And of course all of the polling
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Speaker 7: is showing that the Labor Party is way down on
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Speaker 7: economic management. The Coalition is well in front the big
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Speaker 7: issue of immigration, the government is down, coalition is up
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Speaker 7: law and order housing. All of these issues the government
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Speaker 7: is falling behind on and with the polling showing that
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Speaker 7: they are well behind on economic management. This big fight
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Speaker 7: they've had with the RBA whether Reserve Bank has said
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Speaker 7: government spending at all levels has contributed to inflation and
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Speaker 7: is keeping interest rates higher for longer. The government tried
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Speaker 7: to deny this and it has failed dismally. The Reserve
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Speaker 7: Bank has much more credibility than Anthony Albernesi on economic management.
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Speaker 3: We now know that Tony Berg will face a Muslim candidate.
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Speaker 3: This is a bloke who is backed by the Muslim
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Speaker 3: vote movement. We thought we might get an announcement tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: It's just been broken by the Australian They understand the
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Speaker 3: candidate is a local doctor, Zied Bassouni, formerly launching his
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Speaker 3: campaign of course tomorrow. One of the highest percentages of
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Speaker 3: Muslim voters in the country twenty five percent there in
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Speaker 3: that seat. Burke won it though, with a fifty two
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Speaker 3: percent vote of primary, so you'd think he would be
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Speaker 3: in a strong position. But I argue he's been moved
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Speaker 3: into Home affairs and he's doing all this stuff on
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Speaker 3: visas I think to make a difference to Labour standing
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Speaker 3: with the Arab community with the Muslim community.
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Speaker 2: That says to me, they're pretty spooked here.
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Speaker 7: What do you think, Dennis Oh, I think they're definitely spooked. Look,
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Speaker 7: I think one of the reasons Antony alban As he
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Speaker 7: put Tony Burke into the job is because he's at
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Speaker 7: least experienced as an immigration minister and Andrew Giles had
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Speaker 7: to go. So there's that. There is that, but then
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Speaker 7: there is also what we see in the seat. If
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Speaker 7: there is a Muslim candidate running against Tony Burke, but
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Speaker 7: also against Jason Claire Chris Bowen in ed Husick.
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Speaker 2: In this area of.
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Speaker 7: Western Sydney, it is highly volatile. At the last election,
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Speaker 7: Tony Burke only had a phase three other candidate or
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Speaker 7: four other candidates, a Liberal, a Greens and two minor candidates.
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Speaker 7: He did win with a majority vote. The Liberals were next.
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Speaker 7: This is where Labor is concerned about a Moslim movement
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Speaker 7: vote because it can alter, it can force Tony Burke
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Speaker 7: into preferences, and then who knows where those preferences will go.
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Speaker 7: Where will the Greens preferences go, Where will the Muslim
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Speaker 7: vote preferences go? And so the Labor Party is taking
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Speaker 7: this very seriously, and as one senior minister said to me,
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Speaker 7: they are not going to be caught out like the
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Speaker 7: Liberals were on a Teals campaign. They are alert to
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Speaker 7: a Muslim Teals campaign taking them on in safe seats
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Speaker 7: and costing them big slabs of votes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you say they're alert, and I think they are certainly.
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Speaker 3: Conversations I had in Campbell when I was there just
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Speaker 3: before the break says to me, this is on their radar.
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Speaker 3: Longer they leave it to call the election, the more
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Speaker 3: lead time they'll give this movement to establish themselves. We
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Speaker 3: learn that Glenn Drury, the preference whisperer, is now working
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Speaker 3: for Senator Fatima payment. She's obviously sitting on the cross
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Speaker 3: bench's not with Labor anymore. But that says to me
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Speaker 3: if he is her chief of staff, she and the
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Speaker 3: back is behind her. They're not mucking around. And you
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Speaker 3: and I both know. I mean, if you start a
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Speaker 3: party with an incumbent MP in the Parliament, as opposed
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Speaker 3: to starting from scratch, your electoral commission rules, the electoral
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Speaker 3: rules to establish yourself are actually much better for you. Now,
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Speaker 3: she's not said that that's what's happening, but the presence
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Speaker 3: of Drury makes me think this is absolutely on the cards.
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Speaker 2: Dennis.
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Speaker 7: Yes, of course, as a sitting senator, Fatima payment can
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Speaker 7: actually establish a party without going through the very time
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Speaker 7: consuming target of trying to get a whole series of signatures,
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Speaker 7: so that literally overnight, a friendly Muslim party can be
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Speaker 7: established with Fatima Payman as its titular head. They can
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Speaker 7: also and this is what's happening. The Muslim vote, the
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Speaker 7: Muslim voice, independents are working together again. This idea that
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Speaker 7: you have a loose coalition of candidates who can then
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Speaker 7: work in various ways, work together, work in targeted elections.
22:34
Speaker 7: I think that the Muslim vote will be well organized
22:39
Speaker 7: by the time of the next election. I don't think
22:41
Speaker 7: the government's going to bring forward the election by any chance.
22:45
Speaker 7: I think it always was going to be and will
22:48
Speaker 7: still be in May next year. It's not looking good
22:52
Speaker 7: for Labor, but by the same token, I don't think
22:55
Speaker 7: rushing to a poll is going to help.
23:00
Speaker 3: Grad to have you back TONI see next week right
23:03
Speaker 3: in another sign that the coalition's sharpening their differences with
23:06
Speaker 3: Labor and keep policy areas shout that Defense Minister Andrew
23:09
Speaker 3: Hasty has declared that, if elected, a coalition government would
23:13
Speaker 3: set a deadline by the end of twenty twenty six
23:15
Speaker 3: to massively build up Australia's meager military stocks. Despite what
23:20
Speaker 3: Labour says, it's evident that China's becoming more bellicose in
23:24
Speaker 3: our regent, not less, with growing warnings and a major
23:27
Speaker 3: conflict with China could erupt as early as twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now to discuss his plan and more from
23:34
Speaker 3: this area, shattered Defense Minister Andrew Hasty. Well, and depending
23:38
Speaker 3: on when the elections held, we're talking about at most
23:42
Speaker 3: a couple of years. Here wants your plan to build
23:45
Speaker 3: up our capability and our personnel in such a short
23:49
Speaker 3: time frame.
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Speaker 14: Good evening, Peter well, the question we're asking is what
23:54
Speaker 14: can we fix by twenty twenty six. If you look
23:57
Speaker 14: at what's happened over the last two years in Ukraine
24:00
Speaker 14: and Israel, we can see that the character of warfare
24:03
Speaker 14: has changed. We're seeing mass and quantity. We're seeing lots
24:07
Speaker 14: of cheap, cheaply produced weapons on the battlefield, and that's
24:11
Speaker 14: changed the way people are fighting. And one of the
24:13
Speaker 14: things that we're also seeing is that war is now attritional.
24:16
Speaker 14: We're basically seeing the US industrial base pitted against the
24:19
Speaker 14: industrial bases of China, Russia and Iran, and we're seeing
24:24
Speaker 14: Israel and Ukraine running down their warstocks and being dependent
24:27
Speaker 14: on the US. And so what we need to do
24:29
Speaker 14: is invest in our industrial base back Australian defense industry,
24:34
Speaker 14: and we need to produce air defense. We need to
24:36
Speaker 14: produce counter unmanned aerial systems, we need to produce drones,
24:40
Speaker 14: electronic warfare capabilities, and also long range fires which are
24:44
Speaker 14: just applicable in the Indo Pacific as they are in
24:46
Speaker 14: the Middle East and the battlefields of Eastern Europe.
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Speaker 3: I think most people at home would be listening to
24:53
Speaker 3: your comments about a homegrown defense industry as a no
24:56
Speaker 3: brainer I guess the challenge is, and you know this well,
25:00
Speaker 3: when defense procurement get involved, they make it too complicated,
25:03
Speaker 3: They shift our deadlines, they blow out the budget. In
25:06
Speaker 3: addition to what we can build and develop here in Australia,
25:10
Speaker 3: are you open is a coalition opening open to buying
25:13
Speaker 3: off the shelf if we have to to get the
25:16
Speaker 3: kit to end and capability as quickly as we need.
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Speaker 14: Of course, it's not a either or question, it's a both.
25:24
Speaker 14: And of course we need off the shelf capabilities and
25:26
Speaker 14: that's what we're doing with AUCHEST. We're buying Virginia class submarines.
25:30
Speaker 14: But we also need to back the Australian defense industry
25:33
Speaker 14: and we need to rebuild our industrial muscle. We need
25:36
Speaker 14: to be able to produce things because we can't always
25:38
Speaker 14: rely upon the US and other allies to produce our
25:41
Speaker 14: munitions and our weapons systems. One thing we can do.
25:45
Speaker 14: We're a nation of twenty seven million people. We can
25:48
Speaker 14: invest in these things and we can produce things because
25:51
Speaker 14: they're cheap and they're mass produced. We can build asymmetric
25:54
Speaker 14: capabilities which will give us an edge over the next
25:57
Speaker 14: three to four years and which will help build our
26:01
Speaker 14: self reliance and our ability to survive in a conflict.
26:07
Speaker 2: You mentioned Aucas there.
26:08
Speaker 3: I listened to the Deputy Prime Minister, the Defense Minister,
26:11
Speaker 3: Richard Miles today and question time pretty scathing about.
26:15
Speaker 2: The Coalition and UCUS.
26:16
Speaker 3: Of course, the Coalition are the ones who developed and
26:20
Speaker 3: sign ORCUS, but you wouldn't know it if you listened
26:22
Speaker 3: to Richard Mars.
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Speaker 2: Let's have a listen.
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Speaker 15: When we came to power August was really not much
26:29
Speaker 15: more than a thought public but since then we have
26:33
Speaker 15: been turning it into a reality.
26:38
Speaker 14: Andrew Hasty your response, I thought it was pretty childish.
26:43
Speaker 14: I think UCUS is the most consequential thing the Coalition
26:47
Speaker 14: government did in office, and it's a national endeavor. It's bipartisan,
26:52
Speaker 14: it's multi generational, and it's got to be above cheap
26:55
Speaker 14: political point scoring, which is exactly what Richard Miles did
26:58
Speaker 14: in Parliament today. We need to be working together to
27:01
Speaker 14: make this thing happen. It's his job to implement it
27:03
Speaker 14: and we give the project bipartisan support, so instead of
27:08
Speaker 14: landing cheap blows in Parliament, he should be focused on
27:10
Speaker 14: the job. And I can tell you there's a lot
27:12
Speaker 14: of work to be done, not just with the federal government,
27:15
Speaker 14: but also with the WA state government, and I called
27:17
Speaker 14: on them last week to establish an orcust minister in
27:21
Speaker 14: the state cabinet to get the thing rolling because Labor
27:23
Speaker 14: have dropped the ball on Orcas.
27:27
Speaker 3: Let's kind of comments from the AZEO boss Mike Burgess
27:30
Speaker 3: yesterday that harboring Hama's sympathies, he said, is not necessarily
27:36
Speaker 3: a deal breaker when it comes to getting an Australian
27:38
Speaker 3: and visa.
27:38
Speaker 2: Have a listen.
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Speaker 14: If they've expressed any supporter sympathy for Hamas, is that.
27:44
Speaker 6: A problem depends on the what that looks like. If
27:48
Speaker 6: they're supportive because they want their homeland. If they're giving
27:52
Speaker 6: financial support or material aid, that can be a problem.
27:55
Speaker 6: And obviously we take each case on its merits and
27:57
Speaker 6: context of the information we.
27:59
Speaker 2: Have before us.
28:00
Speaker 5: But if it's just rhetorical support.
28:01
Speaker 6: If it's just rhetorical re support and they don't have
28:03
Speaker 6: an ideology or support for a violent extream as an ideology,
28:07
Speaker 6: then that's not a problem. If they have a support
28:09
Speaker 6: for that idergy, that will be a problem.
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Speaker 3: Your colleague James Patterson doesn't agree at all. He says
28:16
Speaker 3: the only acceptable number of Hamas supporters in Australia is zero.
28:21
Speaker 3: The ASIO boss talked about security checks, but he made
28:24
Speaker 3: the admission that they only check those that are referred
28:28
Speaker 3: to them, and we know not many get referred on.
28:31
Speaker 3: You're one of the few politicians who's actually picked up
28:33
Speaker 3: a gun to fight Terrace Sandrew, what's your view on this.
28:39
Speaker 14: I've got a lot of respect for Mike Burgess and
28:40
Speaker 14: he's a pretty straight shooter, but on this question I disagree.
28:44
Speaker 14: I think that if you sign up or support the
28:47
Speaker 14: Hamas Charter directly or indirectly, I don't see how you
28:51
Speaker 14: can't be supporting violent radical behavior the sort that we
28:56
Speaker 14: saw on October seventh last year. It's in the Hammas.
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Speaker 14: They are committed to the destruction of the Jewish people
29:03
Speaker 14: and the state of Israel. That's why they use the
29:04
Speaker 14: words from the River to the sea. These people don't negotiate.
29:08
Speaker 14: So if we have people coming to Australia who support UMAs,
29:11
Speaker 14: all we're doing is Coate is inviting more radicalism into Australia,
29:17
Speaker 14: which will damage our social cohesion and potentially lead to
29:21
Speaker 14: other consequences.
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Speaker 2: I made a point earlier in the show.
29:26
Speaker 3: You know Muslim countries in the region neighbors of the
29:29
Speaker 3: Gaza area Egypt, Jordan, obviously a little bit further along
29:33
Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia, they refuse to take in anyone from Gaza.
29:39
Speaker 3: Why is this Australia's problem to fix? From this great
29:42
Speaker 3: distance away? And the fact that these countries don't want
29:46
Speaker 3: anyone from Gaza given the predominance of Hamas, that says something,
29:52
Speaker 3: doesn't it?
29:55
Speaker 14: Well, yeah it does. And Hamas is a radical organization
29:58
Speaker 14: committed to the destruction of Israe. So people who sign
30:01
Speaker 14: up to that or support that, we have big problems with.
30:04
Speaker 14: If other Muslim countries have problems with that, then we
30:07
Speaker 14: should be looking very closely at this. And I think
30:11
Speaker 14: anyone who supports from US should not be allowed into Australia.
30:13
Speaker 14: It's as simple as that. It's a pretty straight line,
30:15
Speaker 14: which is why I support what Senator James Patterson said
30:18
Speaker 14: yesterday or today.
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Speaker 3: Rather, we like you for your clarity, Andrew Hasty, thanks
30:24
Speaker 3: for your time.
30:27
Speaker 2: All right after the break.
30:28
Speaker 3: The critical shortage of IVY fluids in hospitals has some
30:33
Speaker 3: experts warning that patients are at risk.
30:35
Speaker 2: So how and why has it got this bad?
30:39
Speaker 3: Plus a little a little later on, I'll speak to
30:42
Speaker 3: a brave academic who's had a huge win for freedom
30:45
Speaker 3: of speech, staring down the activist who tried to silence her.
30:54
Speaker 3: Welcome back still become the extraordinary financial and personal cost
30:58
Speaker 3: for one academic who has stood up to both the
31:00
Speaker 3: activists and her own university in her fight for free speech.
31:05
Speaker 3: But First, Australia, we're told, is on the verge of
31:08
Speaker 3: a medical disaster as hospitals are told to ration critical
31:12
Speaker 3: intravenous fluids amid a global supply shortage. The Health Minister
31:17
Speaker 3: Mark Butler on Friday announced a response group to monitor
31:21
Speaker 3: the shortfall, comprising state and territory health officials alongside relevant
31:25
Speaker 3: medical bodies, with concerns as shortage could last all year,
31:30
Speaker 3: with even surgeries being canceled. Joining me now to discuss
31:34
Speaker 3: what's a worrying situation. Chair of the Australian Patients Association,
31:38
Speaker 3: Michelle Robins. Michel, thank you for your time. Look this
31:42
Speaker 3: will be concerning to people watching at home. What's the
31:46
Speaker 3: detail here because obviously this isn't just surgeries. I mean
31:51
Speaker 3: what about emergency presentations? What else could be impacted here? Yeah,
31:57
Speaker 3: thanks for inviting me on.
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Speaker 12: It is really quite concerning and I definitely think that
32:05
Speaker 12: many patients and many Australians will be very concerned. So
32:09
Speaker 12: when we think about IV fluid shortages, which is sterile
32:13
Speaker 12: salt water, we are actually thinking about the whole health
32:17
Speaker 12: care system, so that is for ambulance services, through to
32:22
Speaker 12: GP clinics, to dialysis patients, as well as private and
32:26
Speaker 12: public hospitals.
32:27
Speaker 2: So the ramifications of.
32:29
Speaker 12: This is quite extraordinary, and I think when you look
32:33
Speaker 12: at all of the aspects to this, you know the
32:37
Speaker 12: other thing that is really quite concerning is that metropolitan
32:42
Speaker 12: public hospitals and private hospitals have resources where they can
32:47
Speaker 12: actually share those IV fluids if they need to. But
32:51
Speaker 12: another community is going to be impacted is rural and
32:55
Speaker 12: regional communities, so they don't have access to as much
33:00
Speaker 12: stock as you would see here in a city like Melbourne.
33:04
Speaker 12: So we have to be really concerned that that might
33:08
Speaker 12: occur and we have to think about how we can
33:10
Speaker 12: use those resources wisely. And secondly, I think with elective
33:15
Speaker 12: surgery that would probably be one of the main issues
33:18
Speaker 12: that would cause more hospital delays waitless delays if physicians
33:25
Speaker 12: can't actually do the surgeries.
33:29
Speaker 2: So so, how did it get this bad? Michelle? How
33:31
Speaker 2: did it.
33:32
Speaker 3: Get left to get to a critical level like this
33:35
Speaker 3: without the government stepping in earlier than they did on Friday. Well,
33:42
Speaker 3: I think we do know that there's always medicine shortages,
33:47
Speaker 3: and the Therapeutic Goods Association does monitor this very closely
33:51
Speaker 3: and carefully with manufacturers. And I think that we have
33:56
Speaker 3: seen in the past, and that is pre pandemic and pandemic,
34:00
Speaker 3: that we have shortages of medicines at various times, and
34:04
Speaker 3: I think we normally can really navigate that. But I
34:08
Speaker 3: think when we're thinking about having.
34:10
Speaker 12: A global shortage as this, we're all going to be
34:14
Speaker 12: competing against each market, each country for those limited resources.
34:20
Speaker 12: So I think we have to really think about how
34:24
Speaker 12: we're going to actually deal with this. And it is
34:27
Speaker 12: a good response that the Minister did announce that there
34:32
Speaker 12: was going to be a response group, and we're pleased
34:36
Speaker 12: to see the Australian Medical Association is part of that
34:39
Speaker 12: group because doctors are going to be at the forefront
34:42
Speaker 12: of this, particularly in the hospital setting. So we really
34:46
Speaker 12: think that we need some more transparency, we need some
34:49
Speaker 12: more information because at this stage it is very limited
34:54
Speaker 12: and there's a lot of mixed messages including do we
34:57
Speaker 12: actually need to ration at the moment, or are we
35:00
Speaker 12: prioritizing certain patients. They might be the emergency department patients,
35:06
Speaker 12: intensive care patients and surgical patients. So we just really
35:10
Speaker 12: need some more information because at the end of the day,
35:13
Speaker 12: it's all about patient safety and we need to make
35:16
Speaker 12: sure that the patients are being treated accordingly.
35:22
Speaker 3: Right, Clearly, I'm not a medico, Michelle, so forgive my ignorance,
35:25
Speaker 3: But if we're talking about just sterile saline fluid or
35:28
Speaker 3: sterile salt water, can't we just make this in Australia
35:32
Speaker 3: or are we totally reliant on importing it from.
35:36
Speaker 12: Overseas At the moment, we believe that we're totally reliant
35:42
Speaker 12: on importing it from overseas, and I think, you know,
35:45
Speaker 12: this is something that we should really have a really
35:48
Speaker 12: big discussion from a federal and state government perspective on.
35:53
Speaker 12: We do have great capability here to manufacture drugs, as
36:00
Speaker 12: and medical supplies, and we saw that in the pandemic.
36:04
Speaker 12: So we saw that we had issues getting vaccines, face masks, gloves,
36:10
Speaker 12: and we were able to all work as a community
36:13
Speaker 12: alongside the government to actually start to have manufacturing sites
36:17
Speaker 12: here to relieve that burden. So I think when you're
36:22
Speaker 12: in a situation where there is a global shortage, we've
36:26
Speaker 12: got to really think about stockpiling, which is something that
36:31
Speaker 12: is not an efficient way of managing. Or we have
36:34
Speaker 12: to start thinking about having those local capabilities so that
36:38
Speaker 12: we're not reliant on other markets around the globe to
36:42
Speaker 12: actually have these medals.
36:44
Speaker 3: I'll have to leave it there, but I'll get some questions, apologies.
36:47
Speaker 3: I'll get some questions into the Minister's office about what's
36:50
Speaker 3: the genesis of this issue.
36:51
Speaker 2: But thank you for your time. Don't know why. You
36:54
Speaker 2: know we talk about wanting to build submarines in Australia.
36:56
Speaker 2: We can't it and get sale water manufactured in Australia.
36:59
Speaker 2: That's got to change.
37:00
Speaker 3: Or after break the academic who has won her freedom
37:04
Speaker 3: of speech battle, it's cost her a lot hundreds of
37:07
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars plus a bit later on, serious conflict
37:10
Speaker 3: of interest concerns for Matt Kean as he takes on
37:14
Speaker 3: a dual role as the government's climates are but also
37:17
Speaker 3: a private green investment fund. Welcome back, Matt Keener, massive
37:25
Speaker 3: conflict of interest will get my palent panels take on
37:28
Speaker 3: that in a moment but before we go there, I
37:31
Speaker 3: want to introduce my next guest to someone who's taken
37:34
Speaker 3: on and won a huge victory for free speech against
37:37
Speaker 3: the academic establishment have done everything they can to silence her.
37:41
Speaker 3: Doctor Joanna House, a professor of law at the University
37:44
Speaker 3: of Adelaide, and she's been forced to take her employer
37:46
Speaker 3: to the Fairwork Commission after six investigations into her research
37:51
Speaker 3: on abortion that were launched in response to complaints. Now,
37:54
Speaker 3: just keep in mind one of these complaints was instigated
37:58
Speaker 3: via sex industry reactivists who's got a TikTok account dedicated
38:03
Speaker 3: to producing regular content attacking Professor Howe. Now, while she
38:08
Speaker 3: has been cleared in each and all investigations, her fights
38:12
Speaker 3: cost her close to one hundred thousand dollars in legal fees.
38:16
Speaker 3: In her latest win and attend by the university to
38:19
Speaker 3: force this former Rhodes scholar to take remedial research classes,
38:25
Speaker 3: her employer has backed down and agreed they won't And
38:28
Speaker 3: the quotes are they won't require Professor how to comply
38:31
Speaker 3: with the corrective actions, that they'll take no further action
38:34
Speaker 3: on this matter. Law Professor Joanna Howe joins me. Now, well,
38:39
Speaker 3: Joanna I'm in awe of your bravery. I read what
38:43
Speaker 3: you write, I listen to what you say. I think
38:46
Speaker 3: you've been to helen back in your fight for academic freedom.
38:50
Speaker 3: To me, the issue seems to be about the topics
38:53
Speaker 3: you research, the uncomfortable findings you make, rather than the
38:57
Speaker 3: quality of your work. Is that is that what's driving
39:02
Speaker 3: these attacks on you.
39:06
Speaker 16: I think that's right, Peter. So that all of the
39:09
Speaker 16: complaints there's six complaints have not come. None of them
39:12
Speaker 16: have come from my students about anything that I'm doing
39:15
Speaker 16: in the classroom, and none of them have been about
39:18
Speaker 16: the substance of my research. There've been claims of misrepresentation
39:23
Speaker 16: of facts from people who have an ideological opposition to
39:26
Speaker 16: what I'm saying. And the idea of a university is
39:28
Speaker 16: built around academic freedom, and these activists don't like that.
39:32
Speaker 16: I'm bringing out through my social media, through Instagram and Facebook,
39:36
Speaker 16: where I report at doctor Joanna Howe, I disseminate my
39:39
Speaker 16: research on abortion and I have uncovered some really horrific things,
39:43
Speaker 16: things that make most of us squirm. You know the
39:46
Speaker 16: fact that in Australia abortion is legal up until birth,
39:50
Speaker 16: the fact that certain states and territories allow a newborn
39:53
Speaker 16: baby who survives an abortion to be left to die
39:56
Speaker 16: without a medical right to care. These are deeply uncomfortable truths,
40:00
Speaker 16: and the activists don't like that. I'm having the reach
40:03
Speaker 16: that I have on Instagram I've had and Facebook. I've
40:06
Speaker 16: reached over five million Australians in two years, and I
40:09
Speaker 16: think the only way that they know to make me
40:12
Speaker 16: stop is to cancel me. And what they have done
40:16
Speaker 16: is weaponize my university's complaints mechanisms against me.
40:22
Speaker 3: I know from government it's very hard to get statistics
40:24
Speaker 3: on abortion. It's like they go out of their way,
40:27
Speaker 3: the various state health departments and Medicare and all the
40:30
Speaker 3: systems not to collect the data. They don't want it
40:33
Speaker 3: to be brought together in any reasonable way. Now, that's
40:37
Speaker 3: not an argument to change the rules per se. I
40:41
Speaker 3: know there's been long debates at a state level about
40:44
Speaker 3: the laws in this country. But you're raising a very
40:47
Speaker 3: uncomfortable truth that babies can be born in a hospital
40:51
Speaker 3: and given care if the intention of the mum is
40:53
Speaker 3: to have a live birth, but if the intention is
40:56
Speaker 3: for that to be an abortion, even though the fetus
40:58
Speaker 3: is vible, if it's born alive, it is left to die.
41:03
Speaker 3: That's not something we want to talk about, is it.
41:07
Speaker 16: It's not And in certain states and territories that is
41:09
Speaker 16: exactly what happens. So in South Australia, where I am based,
41:14
Speaker 16: I have fought alongside others to have born alive protection
41:17
Speaker 16: and we have that protection in the law. A baby
41:19
Speaker 16: born alive after an abortion is treated no differently to
41:22
Speaker 16: any other baby. But in Queensland at the moment that
41:25
Speaker 16: is not the case. And in Victoria. In those two states,
41:28
Speaker 16: between twenty ten and twenty twenty, it was almost one
41:31
Speaker 16: baby a week was born alive after an abortion and
41:34
Speaker 16: left to die. And in twenty twenty two in Queensland
41:37
Speaker 16: there were forty two babies left in that position without
41:40
Speaker 16: a legal right to care. And you know, I had
41:44
Speaker 16: broken the stories of you know, the unnamed baby at
41:48
Speaker 16: Westmead Hospital. I encountered her coroner's report, the baby that
41:51
Speaker 16: was dumped in a bin while still breathing, and I
41:54
Speaker 16: broke that on my social media. I also broke the
41:56
Speaker 16: story of Baby's anth a little baby girl born at
41:59
Speaker 16: nineteen weeks She wasn't going to survive, but they shouldn't
42:02
Speaker 16: have dumped her in an empty hospital room and left
42:05
Speaker 16: her to die for seven minutes on a metal kidney dish.
42:07
Speaker 16: You know, she deserved to be treated with dignity, to
42:10
Speaker 16: be picked up and held. And you know, these are
42:13
Speaker 16: the deeply uncomfortable things that I am bringing out. And
42:15
Speaker 16: one of the investigations against me was from an activist
42:18
Speaker 16: member of the public who saw my reel on Jessica Jane,
42:21
Speaker 16: a little baby girl who in ninety ninety eight was
42:24
Speaker 16: left to die for eighteen minutes on a metal kidney
42:26
Speaker 16: dish without any care. I broke that story on my
42:30
Speaker 16: socials and you know, it reached a lot of people,
42:32
Speaker 16: and this activist member of the public complained to my
42:35
Speaker 16: dean to say that I'd misrepresented facts. And my dean
42:38
Speaker 16: looked at the coronial report and looked at my video,
42:41
Speaker 16: and she said, it's deeply uncomfortable watching watching your videos,
42:44
Speaker 16: but ultimately they're true. And so once again I was
42:47
Speaker 16: clear of that investigation.
42:53
Speaker 2: That's the point.
42:53
Speaker 3: I mean, as uncomfortable as these topics are, rather than
42:57
Speaker 3: shut you down, why don't they can test some of
43:01
Speaker 3: these issues. You know that the very fact that they
43:03
Speaker 3: want to silence you says to me, you've touched a nerve.
43:08
Speaker 2: How can people support you?
43:09
Speaker 3: Because I know this is absolutely enormous in a personal way,
43:13
Speaker 3: but I know it's also cost you financially.
43:15
Speaker 2: How can people support you fight?
43:18
Speaker 16: Thank you Peter, and I appreciate you having me on
43:20
Speaker 16: the show because it has been an ordeal. But ultimately
43:23
Speaker 16: I felt that I had to fight back when the university,
43:25
Speaker 16: you know, forced corrective actions on me despite the fact
43:28
Speaker 16: that I've been cleared. I thought, well, my conscience doesn't
43:31
Speaker 16: allow me to just do your re education. I have
43:34
Speaker 16: to fight back, even though it's going to be a
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Speaker 16: substantial cost. And people have been very generous. Donations have
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Speaker 16: been coming in to my legal fees and I'm very
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Speaker 16: grateful for that. But one thing that I'm really determined
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Speaker 16: to fight for is academic freedom and free speech in
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Speaker 16: our country. The situation is die if you are someone
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Speaker 16: researching in a controversial area, you are not protected by
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Speaker 16: the university system because activists can weaponize the complaint system
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Speaker 16: and so on the screen is a Q that will
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Speaker 16: take you to my petition. It's an open letter to
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Speaker 16: University Australia calling on them to develop a new system
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Speaker 16: which would weed out vexatious and bad faith complaints and
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Speaker 16: it would mean that the situation that I've been through
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Speaker 16: and many others go through, those of us researching in
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Speaker 16: controversial areas, we live in fear of these activists using
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Speaker 16: our university systems against us. So that is an open
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Speaker 16: letter that people can go to they can co sign.
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Speaker 16: There's also a petition there to the federal government demanding
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Speaker 16: protection for free speech for all Australians, because no Australian
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Speaker 16: should be afraid of losing their job because of something
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Speaker 16: that they say.
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Speaker 3: You're not wrong, Professor Howe or credit to you. Thank
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Speaker 3: you for joining me tonight, Well done your win.
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Speaker 2: All right after break?
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Speaker 3: How can that can be both the government's climates are
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Speaker 3: but also have a position at a private green investment firm.
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Speaker 3: Plus all the great performances from OSSI at the Olympics.
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Speaker 3: I tell you what, how bad was it that break
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Speaker 3: dancer on the unil How to criticize it? You'll be
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Speaker 3: accused of misogyny. Now that's rubbish.
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Speaker 2: She was crap.
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Speaker 3: Right, Let's bring my wonderful Monday Night Panel as usual.
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Speaker 3: Sky News contributor Forward Howard, Government Minister Gary Hargraves llenp MP,
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Speaker 3: former Resources Minister Keith pitt Well, Jens, let's start with
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Speaker 3: the perennial.
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Speaker 2: Matt Keane once was a liberal. Now I'm not so sure.
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Speaker 3: Chairman of the taxpayer factor Climate Change Authority is also
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Speaker 3: now taken another position at a climate investment firm willame Capital.
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Speaker 3: He's said to become the head of regulatory affairs there. Now, Gary,
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Speaker 3: help me out here. How on earth can you be
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Speaker 3: the head of regulatory affairs for this money making mob
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Speaker 3: if he's basically the regulator for the government. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I think this stinks to high heaven.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, but Peter, you've got to remember the Left always
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Speaker 13: look after themselves on these sorts of things, and it's
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Speaker 13: never a raw if you're involved in it, So you
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Speaker 13: can't help. But wonder how this blow can actually do this?
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Speaker 13: How can you be the taxpayer funded za of the
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Speaker 13: sector that you're giving private capital advice to? Look, I
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Speaker 13: think the whole green climate con is just going to
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Speaker 13: die a natural death if Donald Trump is elected. So
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Speaker 13: maybe he'll be unemployed and looking for a new gig.
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Speaker 13: Sometimes soon people are leaving the private capital market anyway,
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Speaker 13: in the whole green space, I don't think he's going
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Speaker 13: to have much to do but he's going to pump
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Speaker 13: up his own tires. That's the reality. And I think
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Speaker 13: it's a shame that he's done this because it's really
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Speaker 13: wrong from his reputation point of view.
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Speaker 2: I reckon.
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Speaker 3: Keith concern that the unions are pushing to reunionize the
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Speaker 3: Pilbra BHP RIO and others have been pushed into collective
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Speaker 3: bargaining agreements using a loophole and the Labour's new ir law.
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Speaker 3: Explain why this is dangerous.
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Speaker 17: Well, there's two major points here, Peter. The first one
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Speaker 17: is it doesn't matter what the majority of the workers
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Speaker 17: in the Pilborough want. The unions can force them and
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Speaker 17: the companies into these agreements. They don't have to have
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Speaker 17: the majority at all. And secondly, is the impact on
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Speaker 17: productivity in what is Australia's biggest export industries, our biggest
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Speaker 17: tax pain industries, our biggest royalty pain industries, some of
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Speaker 17: our biggest employers, and if they collapse and they're not
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Speaker 17: internationally competitive because of these types of deals. B Anthony
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Speaker 17: Albanese is his surplus.
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Speaker 2: It will go up in smoke because it.
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Speaker 17: Comes from coal, and it comes from gas and it
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Speaker 17: comes from iron ore and that is a real risk
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Speaker 17: to our economy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what about the Olympics.
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Speaker 3: Fabulous effort by all the Australians, of course, but they're
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Speaker 3: a lot of debate about this breakdancing woman.
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Speaker 2: Ah.
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Speaker 3: I went back and had to look at it all.
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Speaker 3: I watched her performance. That are reminding myself of what
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Speaker 3: real breakdancing looks like. There's a red bull competition that's amazing.
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Speaker 3: She got zero points after three rounds of competition. So
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Speaker 3: it's not just me saying she's terrible, but judges thought
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Speaker 3: she was crap.
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Speaker 2: But if you said how crap.
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Speaker 3: She was, Gary, you were accused of misogyny because you're
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Speaker 3: allowed to criticize a woman.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: I kept thinking of some poor dancer who lost their
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Speaker 3: space on the Electric Olympics team to give her a run.
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Speaker 2: I mean, she's a shocker. Yeah.
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Speaker 13: Look, Peter, thanks very much for setting me up with
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Speaker 13: this question. Let's face it, the Olympics just loves sort
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Speaker 13: of what causes they are exactly the work causes. The
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Speaker 13: Olympics just love and this virtue signaling stuff. And my
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Speaker 13: understanding is her PhD was all about trying to break
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Speaker 13: down gender stereotyping, about the cultural appropriation of breakdancing. I mean,
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Speaker 13: spare me, really, I actually think about all of the
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Speaker 13: young people who competed, tens and thousands of them who competed.
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Speaker 13: Who then a few people rose through the ranks and
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Speaker 13: actually did so well on the racing track and the
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Speaker 13: swimming swimming pool. I mean eleven women won gold medals.
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Speaker 13: If I recall the number correctly, I think eleven Queensland
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Speaker 13: has won gold medals. I mean we even beat Canada.
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Speaker 13: I mean, I think there's a lot of reasons for
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Speaker 13: us to be pretty excited. I mean, three people out
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Speaker 13: of Bunderburg won medals before Keith Pete says it. I mean,
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Speaker 13: let's face it, there's a whole lot of good things
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Speaker 13: came out of the Olympics and this wasn't one of them.
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Speaker 13: This wasn't one of them.
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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that.
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Speaker 3: Just before we go, I've got to ask you about
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Speaker 3: the vandalism to Womba's Drayton Cemetery because I understand it's
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Speaker 3: horrific and you've got a personal connection.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 13: Look, my wife for part part of the pioneering families
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Speaker 13: into Woomba and all those early settlers. But there were veterans'
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Speaker 13: graves that were damaged. This is cutting at the heart
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Speaker 13: of culture and tradition. This is cultural terrorism. Peter and
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Speaker 13: I actually think there needs to be a law that
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Speaker 13: specifies that we chop down Captain Cook's statue, we destroy
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Speaker 13: graves of high ears of veterans in a country area.
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Speaker 13: This is really killing the Darling Downs community tonight, and
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Speaker 13: a lot of people are really angry. There is no
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Speaker 13: penalty great enough for the people who have done this
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Speaker 13: cultural terrorism. They're trying to wipe out our history right
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Speaker 13: before our very eyes. And I think we need to
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Speaker 13: get serious about this. It's not just vandalism.
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Speaker 3: Well done, well done, beautifully said. Thank you, gentlemen, see
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Speaker 3: you next week. I'll be back tomorrow night at six
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Speaker 3: hears Andrew