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INTERVIEW: K Michelle Opens Up On Breaking Into Country Music, Marriage, Reality TV Journey + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago, clicks up the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You don't finish for y'all, dummy.
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  Speaker 2: Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's the d j n V. Just hilarious. Charlomagne, the
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  Speaker 3: guy we are the breakfast Club. He got a special guest.
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  Speaker 1: In the buildings. Indeed, he came in here.
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  Speaker 3: Lying first thing, Charlamagne, you look hand.
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  Speaker 1: I never heard that.
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  Speaker 2: He came a long way.
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  Speaker 4: He was always I'm feeling good this morning.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing? I'm good?
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  Speaker 3: Been seeing you one on the Housewives of Atlanta. Oh no,
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  Speaker 3: what made you? What did you jump on that? What
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  Speaker 3: made you get on that?
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  Speaker 2: I always say I was gonna do that?
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  Speaker 4: Really, yeah, I always manifest everything I said that. You know,
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  Speaker 4: when I got a certain point in my career and
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  Speaker 4: I went back to reality that I was going to
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  Speaker 4: do housewives.
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  Speaker 3: Housewives are so catty and had I do. So what
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  Speaker 3: made you jump into the caddys?
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  Speaker 2: I ain't know what I was getting into.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I thought it was going to be like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like I'm used to and you know, normally
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  Speaker 4: on reality TV, you know someone there's a line you crossed,
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  Speaker 4: because then you know you might get it, like you
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  Speaker 4: you really might get some hands put on you. Some
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  Speaker 4: cousins might see you here. No, you could say anything
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  Speaker 4: and there's no repercussion. So it's a mental thing for me.
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  Speaker 5: You didn't expect it to hit that emotionally, No.
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  Speaker 4: No, because normally, you know, you could say a couple
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  Speaker 4: of words and then it's all. You know, this is
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  Speaker 4: about verbal sparring, mental you know, emotional control.
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  Speaker 2: And I realized I didn't have that much of it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and you know reality TV rewards conflict right piece
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  Speaker 6: while still giving viewers the authentic version of yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've done it for so long, and
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  Speaker 4: I think people expected me to be like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 4: came in eyeballing everything.
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  Speaker 2: I could see everything.
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  Speaker 4: Like I was a producer, you know, and I was
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  Speaker 4: watching everything. But when I would go home, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that was like a rough part of my life anyway.
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  Speaker 2: So it was just rough all around.
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  Speaker 4: And I always let people see the good and the
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  Speaker 4: bad of my life.
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  Speaker 2: So it's just what it was.
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  Speaker 4: I would just go there. I would cry all day.
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  Speaker 4: I go home, I cry again, I drink, I'd be happy.
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  Speaker 4: Every emotion that could take place, I just let it go.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they say you've sat on camera though that
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  Speaker 5: you don't feel safe with some of the ladies, and
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  Speaker 5: we could visibly see that, right who do you feel
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  Speaker 5: safe with?
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  Speaker 4: You know, when I started out, I was looking at
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  Speaker 4: everybody because just like you know, everyone has a perception
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  Speaker 4: of me, and then they get to know me.
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  Speaker 2: Then it's not that I.
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  Speaker 4: Had perceptions of each lady because you know, you do
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  Speaker 4: watch the show, you do hear things, you do have
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  Speaker 4: other ladies telling you who this person is and what
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  Speaker 4: they've done. At this point, right now, I'm the one
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  Speaker 4: out of the whole cast that talks to everybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and that's me taking my time and actually getting to
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  Speaker 4: know each woman, talking to them on the phone outside
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  Speaker 4: of things. No one would ever think, even a producer said,
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  Speaker 4: I would never think you would be the one that
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  Speaker 4: everyone would call and talk to, And that's what happened.
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  Speaker 7: I didn't think that either.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna say. You know the funny my I
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  Speaker 3: asked my wife this morning when when we knew we
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  Speaker 3: were an interview, and I was like, breakdown came to
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  Speaker 3: show quickly on the show, and she was like all right,
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  Speaker 3: she was like she was like for some strange reason,
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  Speaker 3: it was like she gets along with everybody on the show.
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  Speaker 3: And it was like, We've never seen that before. And
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  Speaker 3: they said, the second thing is it don't really seem
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  Speaker 3: like she fucks with the Shenanigans too much. It was
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  Speaker 3: like she's always on the back. You will watch you
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  Speaker 3: and happened like she never like it's almost like she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't approve of the Shenanigans. So is it that way?
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  Speaker 3: Like you just like, I'm too grown for this. I
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  Speaker 3: ain't doing that bullshit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I'm from Memphis, like we're like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: no nonsense, you know you shoot it straight. So I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't gonna walk into a show and people like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: this is in her head.
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  Speaker 2: She's creating.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I don't do is create, you know, drama.
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  Speaker 4: I'm paying attention to what you're doing. I'm paying attention
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  Speaker 4: to how you're producing and handling it. So now that
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  Speaker 4: I get the game and I see what's going on, No,
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  Speaker 4: I don't do the Shenanigans. I know you'll do something
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  Speaker 4: to me off camera and then make me look completely
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  Speaker 4: crazy on camera. And that's an al I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 4: to take this season because you played the game better
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  Speaker 4: than me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're.
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  Speaker 6: Joining the franchise. Change your opinion about the franchise anyway, I.
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  Speaker 4: Did not know that the type of fans that this
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  Speaker 4: franchise has, like they are die hard like basketball fans,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and you know there's some salaries that are
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  Speaker 4: like basketball, you know, basketball salaries like these people love
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  Speaker 4: this show and anything that you do, like I would
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  Speaker 4: say you should do Housewives, you know me, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 4: I think you know, anything that you do is amplified.
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  Speaker 4: Anything that you do they really support. So I knew
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  Speaker 4: it was a lot of support there. The only thing
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  Speaker 4: it changed for me.
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  Speaker 2: Was the fact that you have a whole different fan base.
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  Speaker 4: Looking at you, and you know, they want to get
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  Speaker 4: to know you, And I didn't know it was that intense.
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  Speaker 6: Y'all said, can you said your wife said that she
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  Speaker 6: gets along with everybody. But I always hear people say
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  Speaker 6: they feel like Key Michelle don't belong on the show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: because she feels like.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody ought to give it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people didn't want me on the
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  Speaker 4: show period, like when it happened because of love and
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  Speaker 4: hip hop, like you know, you take Breakfast Club for example,
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  Speaker 4: like y'all started there and look at y'all now, you know,
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  Speaker 4: people had a problem with y'all doing Netflix. They didn't
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  Speaker 4: want y'all to grow, you know, but when you do
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  Speaker 4: some things and you become an expert in things, you
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  Speaker 4: have to grow and do certain things. So people was, man,
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  Speaker 4: she's gonna declass the show.
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  Speaker 2: She's going to do this to the show like the
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  Speaker 2: kicking people.
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  Speaker 4: But you know what we do to our own as
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  Speaker 4: far as how we down love and hip hop this
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  Speaker 4: and now we ex celebrating a black show being counsel
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  Speaker 4: and we ain't got no black shows, you know, to
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  Speaker 4: see them call such an uproar about me being there
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  Speaker 4: when from loving hip hop to this, you know, I've
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  Speaker 4: got keys to cities, days and done things and you know,
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  Speaker 4: all types of stuff. But they wanted to put that
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  Speaker 4: on me. They wanted my past to ride me. So
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  Speaker 4: just imagine, y'all. You you know, you go into something
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  Speaker 4: and you knowing people are gonna assume that you're going
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  Speaker 4: to act a certain way, and when you do need
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  Speaker 4: to act that way, you got a second guess you
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  Speaker 4: know how you're even acting because you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: prove people right, But at the same time you do
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  Speaker 4: you are I'm signed to the biggest country music label
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  Speaker 4: right now in the game, and I got a whole
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  Speaker 4: different other people looking at me. I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: be the angry black woman you know in Nashville either,
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  Speaker 4: So a lot of stuff that I would do I
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  Speaker 4: can't really do.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like even when you were on Love and
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  Speaker 5: hip Hop though, it's you know, to some people, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you were looked at as the angry black women, but
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  Speaker 5: you were also hurt. You were also going through things,
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  Speaker 5: and then you had other people who felt like those
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  Speaker 5: things didn't matter, or you were lying about those things,
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  Speaker 5: and you were just reacting to that. And I think
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  Speaker 5: coming off of Love and hip Hop and all of
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  Speaker 5: the you know, all the stuff, all the drama and
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  Speaker 5: pandemonium surrounded around that is what had people prefacing that
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  Speaker 5: they had already had a preconceived notion about you. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: she gonna come in, she gonna she gonna shake tables,
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  Speaker 5: and she gonna remove what you said you was gonna
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  Speaker 5: move somebody.
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  Speaker 7: Trickia on on like hip hop and shit.
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  Speaker 5: You know, but now we have you here, and then
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  Speaker 5: earlier you said something you said they kind of played
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  Speaker 5: the game better than you.
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  Speaker 7: Why you say that, Why do you think.
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  Speaker 2: They than me?
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  Speaker 4: Hmm, Like they know how to do some stuff, make
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  Speaker 4: phone calls behind the scenes and instit on camera and
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  Speaker 4: look like.
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  Speaker 2: What did I get? You know, and me, all of
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  Speaker 2: my emotions are always right here. Yeah can I can't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, you really gonna act like you don't know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. So that's when I say play
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 4: Like you know, things that happen behind the scene, you
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  Speaker 4: gotta know how to bring them to the light. I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to get ahead of some stuff and they're like
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  Speaker 4: that ain't how to go. You gotta let it play out.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta be a little bit smooth about it, like
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  Speaker 4: you're dealing with. You know, some people who ain't gonna
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  Speaker 4: be as real as you to your face because they
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  Speaker 4: know they've been doing this for years. They know how
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  Speaker 4: to look at you and say you're crazy and still
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  Speaker 4: go get things on you and do things to you.
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  Speaker 4: So now I completely understand.
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  Speaker 3: And that's that's what you said. Guess then say your
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  Speaker 3: friendly said you blended in well, but one thing I
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  Speaker 3: would have said even last time you were here, you're
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  Speaker 3: very honest about yourself. And where does that come from?
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  Speaker 3: Because whether it's surgeries, we followed you online with surgeries,
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  Speaker 3: we followed you with everything that you're going through. What
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  Speaker 3: what makes you say? You know what, I'm gonna be dishonest,
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  Speaker 3: even if WIT's embarrassing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm drinking, and it's just better when you be
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  Speaker 4: trying to hide stuff about yourself, you don't get to sleep.
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  Speaker 4: Like I take the most embarrassing moments of my life.
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  Speaker 4: I'll take the crime, I'll take the yelling. I'll take
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  Speaker 4: that before having to really go through life and be.
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  Speaker 2: Hiding something from you.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: live like in fear of something. I rather just tell
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  Speaker 4: you I did it. I'd rather just tell you that
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  Speaker 4: was said. I rather just deal head on than have
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  Speaker 4: to hide it. It don't feel good.
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  Speaker 3: You know you had a reduction, right, a butt reduction,
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  Speaker 3: and you said that you almost died from it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and were you being did you want to put on
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  Speaker 3: young women and women that would following directions or you'd
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  Speaker 3: be like, this is what happened, and what happened in
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  Speaker 3: that situation.
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  Speaker 2: You should really see my DM.
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  Speaker 4: I am like like butt shot, plastic surgery.
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  Speaker 2: God mother, fairy god mother, the type of stories I
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  Speaker 2: get to.
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  Speaker 4: See every single day from pictures all the way down,
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  Speaker 4: you know, even to celebrities who have done things to
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  Speaker 4: their body, like I got my butt shots here started
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  Speaker 4: you know, here in New York and Atlanta, and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: look cheek heret no I did, And you know, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I know. It was like they were saying
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  Speaker 4: best Body. I think it was People Magazine Best Body.
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  Speaker 4: I had this, but I had all of this, and
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  Speaker 4: for years I was super healthy. I was good, I
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  Speaker 4: was this and that. And then I remember one night
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  Speaker 4: I was just in a bed and I just had
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  Speaker 4: this pain, like I was just at a ball and
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  Speaker 4: then I started getting these headaches. And then they said, oh,
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  Speaker 4: she got loopis. They could not find out what was
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  Speaker 4: wrong with me. They was like, she got loopis and.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I had loopers for two weeks. Yeah, for
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  Speaker 2: two weeks. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And then they said is that anything, And I said,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, I got these butt shots. And then
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  Speaker 4: they went in and they saw it on the screen
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  Speaker 4: and on the MIRI.
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  Speaker 2: It was black.
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  Speaker 4: You can see the silicon and people because it's black
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  Speaker 4: and you're on the screen.
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  Speaker 2: They was like, oh my god, what are we gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: Doctors didn't want to.
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  Speaker 4: Touch it deal with this, so I kind of was
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  Speaker 4: like the guinea pig to getting it out.
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  Speaker 7: Oh right, this was the first time that they had.
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  Speaker 2: For real, for real.
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  Speaker 4: So there's other people now that are getting it out,
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  Speaker 4: but they have It's been years, you know what I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying since then, So people like why she keep talking
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  Speaker 4: about her surgery because I lost so much blood. They
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  Speaker 4: didn't know what was going on with me. I've done
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  Speaker 4: sixteen surgeries at this point. It started when I was
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  Speaker 4: thirty five. It's been nine years later, and I just
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  Speaker 4: had my final surgery about where were we at two
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  Speaker 4: and a half weeks ago, just to remove the remove
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  Speaker 4: it to even now this was scar revision. I think
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  Speaker 4: people thought I was running in there like, oh, she's
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  Speaker 4: always doing something. No, I'm trying to live. I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to balance, I'm trying to you know, I'm trying to
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  Speaker 4: fit this and only about you know, like two weeks
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  Speaker 4: ago is my scar revision and all of that happening.
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  Speaker 4: So it was so much with my body in these
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  Speaker 4: silicon shots that it's not a sad story, but it's
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  Speaker 4: my real story, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And they're like, why do you keep talking about it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, bitch, I could have died, Like what you want
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  Speaker 4: me to you know, I don't need your sympathy, but
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  Speaker 4: they really.
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  Speaker 2: Were scared for me.
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  Speaker 1: You also didn't need it.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't, and that's what was so stupid to me,
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  Speaker 4: Like that's why I want girls, like you're gonna get that.
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  Speaker 4: You know you're gonna get that woman. Weaight on, you're
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: gonna have your babies? Are you gonna fill in? I
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  Speaker 4: wanted it even bigger, but because I was like, oh
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  Speaker 4: I want this, I want that, and I already had
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  Speaker 4: a shape. My whole family is very small, ways, very curvy,
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  Speaker 4: you know, naturally, so you know, I went through all
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: of that and like sick. So I founded like been
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  Speaker 4: sick for nine years. So even when I was on
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  Speaker 4: the show, I had tubes coming at it, somber.
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  Speaker 5: Saying when you were on, like I remember you saying
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  Speaker 5: you would be on stage and you would be singing it
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  Speaker 5: and that ship would hurt.
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  Speaker 4: Like like I have like pain piels. People take pain
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  Speaker 4: pills for fun. I'm fighting to stop, but it's not
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  Speaker 4: about fun. My doctors, I have a full I'm labeled
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  Speaker 4: as a chronic pain patient, so I have a full
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  Speaker 4: regiment of what it takes for.
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  Speaker 2: Me to get up in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: You know you talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to, but I got to have some
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  Speaker 2: fun for myself.
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  Speaker 3: And you talk about you a shape, Charlotte talked about
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  Speaker 3: your body talking.
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  Speaker 6: You said you were you didn't need it, all right,
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  Speaker 6: you didn't, So what made you?
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  Speaker 3: What made you think that you did need it? Because
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  Speaker 3: you didn't.
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  Speaker 2: We be greeding, like we don't, you know, like I wish?
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  Speaker 4: Like you know, I produced the show on Lifetime called
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  Speaker 4: My Killer Body with Just Collins.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know.
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  Speaker 4: It did amazing and far as far as ratings and everything,
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  Speaker 4: their highest debut rated show. And it was too much
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  Speaker 4: for me because I was healing and I would go
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  Speaker 4: look at these women. I would literally get their phone
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  Speaker 4: number and call them and still talk to these women.
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  Speaker 2: So it will put me in a plate.
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  Speaker 4: So it's it's been a thing like you never know
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  Speaker 4: what your calling is gonna be or what you go
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  Speaker 4: through something for. But you know you can fight it
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  Speaker 4: or you can just say it is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Like I accept it and I feel like and I
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  Speaker 2: know I have.
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  Speaker 4: I have saved a lot of lives and helped a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: Was it addictive? Like the surgeries? You like, you always
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  Speaker 3: want more? They want to be a little bigger, you
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  Speaker 3: want a little more thish.
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  Speaker 4: And for me, it was like a quick instant thing.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't like I had to always lay down and
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  Speaker 4: be cut.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this is a.
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  Speaker 4: Shot, like you can lay and go do this. Then
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden you got this. And so let
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  Speaker 4: me tell you the funny thing about all of this
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  Speaker 4: is if I had to wait it like right now,
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: there is a product that is FDA approved. The only
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: problem with the product is that it's too expensive, and
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  Speaker 4: people say it's very unfair. And it is a product
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  Speaker 4: where it is real fat. I think New York Times
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  Speaker 4: here ran a post about it. They call it kind
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  Speaker 4: of the zombie BBL because it's dead.
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  Speaker 7: People's fat Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 4: But they it's for people like say you have your
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  Speaker 4: breasts removed and things like that, and you can't ever
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  Speaker 4: grow that back. Say you have silicon cut out of
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  Speaker 4: you and there's parts that you can't grow back. It's
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: instant like silicon, it's permanent and all the DNA has
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: been removed out of it. And it's literally literally what
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: silicone was supposed to be. But people can't afford that,
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Like fifty thousand dollars, you know, for this and that.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: So it's just a lot of things and I'm happy
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: to kind of be, you know, one of the pioneers
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: of it and can talk to women and just deal.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: With oh you got that now, no, no, no, no.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: So like this upcoming season, like it was so much
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: so the company, one of the girls on the show,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: Phavor Parks, had reached out to the doctor and the
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: company about it, and you know, they were just like, look,
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: you know she helps women. This is that you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: we'll just do it for free. She don't have to
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: pay fifty thousand for this.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: And that, like you know. So it's just things like that.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: So I just feel like I have a besides.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Singing and all of that, I have a whole nother
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: ministry that is a bit different that I'm not ashamed
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: of that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: There was a lot of women that that was the
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: part of plastic surgery and you know, a body alterations
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: that you don't hear about that women just don't talk about.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: So that I was.
• 16:44
  Speaker 7: I was very very happy that you actually did that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: And you know what, just Jess used to turn me
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: up online so big. I can't take it. No, She's
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: hilarious like.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: You're like, like no, just like even like with comedians nowadays,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: everybody is so sensitive you can't even you know, I
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: can take a joke. I think that's what people don't get, Like, yeah,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I can take a joke. Like I've watched you.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I've been so proud of you.
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying to watch your journey, Like
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: people have ship to say about you being over here.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I watched that. They're like, oh, we need this, we
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: gotta get this.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Like just because something is for you, it doesn't mean
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: you have to have like this long credential of it.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: If God handed you your and I watched you.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, we would we would kind of get mad,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: but we wouldn't.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: We would laugh about it, and I'm very proud of you.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: It would be I would go off of there, She'll
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: say stuff, but that that's just the hilarious, Like that's
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: what that is.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I never really took that bad.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I just it made me pay attention to her why
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: as a woman.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: And her growth.
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: You know the point about you being honest, right, Like
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: have you ever held back from like releasing a song
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: or saying something in an interview because the truth and
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: it might hurt somebody.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: That's so what shit I want to say politically, like
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I like this, like it's even a song, like for
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: me to be on the only black woman, Okay, let's
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: just get to it. For me to be the only
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: black woman on this country label.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: And I'm so like, white men love me all of that,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: but I never get to be around white women. And
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: for God to put my whole team is all white women,
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: so to be telling them how much.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: A wed costs, and.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: No, it be a thing and everybody want to be
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: respectful and walking on eggshells about you know what it's
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: like to be a black woman, and my whole team
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: is all white women.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: To get it though I call it, I call it
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: sug white.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Oh yes, but label my label in Nashville, you know
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: deep Nashville, the whitest city in America, and that like
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: it's a song I really think culture needs right now.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: And I wanted to name my album I Ain't White,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: but I hope you like. And that was a whole fight,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: like you can't name it that, but it wasn't anything offensive.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: It was like when you hear it's straight country music,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: how I grew up deep, it's not hip hop country.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It is rooted country country, and you hear it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: You might not think even though we started the java,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: but you wouldn't think that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: So to have to change your album title, to not
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: do certain.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Songs, yet to have to kind of, you know, try
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: to actually really try to bring everybody together. And that's
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: why I be a thing for me with my own
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: people like y'all be fighting me, and I'll really.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Be up in the room fighting for y'all and y'all
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: fighting me.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I got a good book for you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: It's called My Black Country by Professor Alis Randall from
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: vanbi and it talked about the past, present, and future
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: of country music and to your point about how black
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: people created the genre.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: It like we did, and like the fact that in radio,
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: you know this is radio, the fact in radio that
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: they don't play any women on country radio. So imagine
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: being a woman and being a black woman and not
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: knowing your demographic, Like I have an album going out,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know who the hell the demographic is and
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: who's supposed to be bad because you know, black people
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: won't me.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: It's how they know me.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: But the doors a little bit.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And she did it in such a clever way,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: and I think that was amazing. She sent me flowers
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: and everything, and I think that was amazing and because
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: it offered, you know, this edge, you know, urbanness to it.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I am from Tennessee. I am deep in country music.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I write in country. I am in country music with
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: the biggest writers writing every single day. And they knew
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: that when they came to my house. What You're not
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: gonna do is talk about Beyonce to this black woman.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: However you feel about Cowboy Carter and what it is,
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I don't play them games. But you know, so now
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: that you know Cowboy Carter, the tour is over and
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: all of that, we are dealing like we are dealing
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: with anger, you know, anger in the city, of the
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: backlash of the Grammy win, like we get the good
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: things like alternative Grammy nominations and things like that. And
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: my album is straight straight He'll Billy call it red
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: the straight Country. So the journalists just said in Nashville,
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: I have the country as they were, they didn't expect
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: that I have the country's album in all of Nashville
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: that they have seen in two years.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Nashville politics is different too. Break in the music industry
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: in Nashville.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I ain't never seen nothing like it is not it's nothing.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Hip hop is nothing. Even how they turn in albums,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: how they feel about things. It's the Nashville way. Everything
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: is completely opposite. But what I do respect, you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: how we let anybody get in our music. Yeah, oh baby,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: it's not just black, it's white and black. If you
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: can't right, you'll never be invited back to a writer's room.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: If you can't sing, you will never be invited back.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: So they do their own they do. Caucasian people like
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: that and black people like that, like you're not gonna
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: play in Nashville. This is music and everybody go home
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: to their family by like seven o'clock.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: It's no late nice session.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Have you connected with people like Bobby Boones?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: No, I like, in my whole Nashville being right now.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Has been like you know, like Earnest and you know Morgan,
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I just have a What they're putting for me right
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: now has been we're gonna put you in deep country
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: like our country, you know, like deep country right now,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna let you go forward and work. And
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I'm from Tennessee, so every day of my life for
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: the past couple of years has been writing and perfecting
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: my craft as a writer. It ain't about.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: How you look, your titties, your age. The older you
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: are in country, they call you season, you know, in life.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: So movesville.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I live in Nashville and Georgia. It's been like that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: I've been back and forth and it keeps me grounded
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: and home. And then you know, Georgia is Georgia and
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: it's just been a thing.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Now, going back to the Housewives of Atlanta, how has
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: your husband been liking the show? Because I know he's
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: a lot more discreet than everybody else. You know, he
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: don't really like to be in the He ain't with
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: none of that shit.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: Tell you something, Me and my husband we updated since
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: high school and were understand that. Like, yeah, like I've
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: known him since high school. I was the girl I
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: stow him.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: Up for prom.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I stow him up for prom, all of it.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: And like after I wanted the bad boy, I wanted
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: the athletes, I wanted the rappers. After I've seen their behavior,
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: I was like, my friend love me. And you know
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: we have been together for years and years. Yes, we
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: broke up within the past. You know, Well, a couple
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: of years before we got married, and women are mad.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: People are really.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Mad because they was like she says, she let her
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: husband sleep with other men.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Well, not no ship other women, my men, and she
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: sleep with other men clip, but.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: And she sleep with other men, this and that. After
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: you have been with somebody so long. I think all
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: of us has been something for so long. I'm not
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: gonna divorce my husband or do anything because of some
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: cheating or a woman or some vagina. That's just not me.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: It's been I've been through too much in life. So
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: when I made that statement.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: It went. It drove women cruss, you know.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: And I was like, long, sein't paying no bills, so
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: putting my husband on TV because I was supposed to
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: marry somebody else. And I have no shame, like out
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: of everything we had gone through, we was having rough
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: passes and things. I want, things I need that man.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: He hadn't I told him, when.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: You know, he's always doing my whole life to be
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: the woman who didn't want to get married.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I've always said this since high school. I don't want
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to be married. I don't want to be married.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Well, when he didn't do it, he didn't give me
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: the option to say no, so, but want to Yeah,
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: But once I started bringing it up, he started saying,
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: you don't want to be married.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: You want to control this, and so he wasn't doing it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So I was getting mad and mad and mad.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: You know, change your mind.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it changed my mind.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: And so I told him, well, we've been together all
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: this time, we had like ten years, I'm gonna go.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do what I wanna do.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: And then I started to date somebody, dated a coach
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: and all of that, and he was going on housewife
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: with me, cause that's who I really was dealing with
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: and dating. But I still was talking to my husband
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: every day, like that's never gonna that's been years, Like
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I've never gonna not talked to my husband every day.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: And yeah, so this is why y'all was married.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so people like, oh, you got married for housewife.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Well not ford, but it kind of happened, kind of
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: pushed it, like so I'm dating this man and then
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: they talked to me at that time right then about housewife.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: This man good on paper, he fine or whatever, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: you know he's a coach and whatever, and what's her name?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Joy Man? Joy x Man? Joy x Man us as
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: George Taylor X man. So I would date him. Oh
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: so that was a it was a good thing and
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: all of that, and then they wanted us on Housewives,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: and then I just started looking.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I was like, dang, it's serious.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: And he had a date and you know, he was
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: ready to propose with the producers and all of that,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, I really got
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I gotta be with him forever.
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, like.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: You be playing and then it's like you don't.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Be locking in mentally because you be moving through life.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: So I'm not going for to be a housewives And
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: then oh, he's like.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: I have to be a real wife.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna deal with him.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: He has some things about I just oh, I'm not
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: gonna be on TV, and this one is this and that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: And so ultimately you made the right decision, made the
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: perfect decision.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: And when they was like okay, yeah, y'all housewives, and
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: then he had gave them the date, I had a
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: proposal and all of that stuff coming. And just one
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: morning I just woke up and I was supposed to
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: fly here to New York to Bravo, and I said,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: oh no, I'm not going to marry that man, I
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: really want to marry.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: My best friend.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: I got doing.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: This and yeah, we just went to the courthouse and
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: got married. And then I just walked into Bravo and
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: they was waiting on that one man. My husband's like,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I never thought, you know, if it wasn't me, I've
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: never thought you would marry a black man or do anything.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: So you know, I took a lot of heat about
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: the black man.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the black man thing?
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I an't catch because I just like, besides him, I
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: just never really date I always I really didn't they.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Black men in the country music space.
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: No.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I think I just dealing with therapy and things like
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: like if a therapist say, what's the center of all
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: your pain and issues? You know, my father's in the
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: in the house, he's great, my granda father. Every man
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: that have done something to me have been a black man.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: And I think I took that like I never date
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: a black man again. You know, I'm the mother of
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: a black boy, of a you know, a boy, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I've always been very big about how he treats women
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: and things like that. But from your perceptions, your reality,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: everything bad that has happened to me has been a
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: black man.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I bet you.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: But also to your point, the people that have loved
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: you the most probably have been black men too.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: My grandfather, my and he got my father. Yes, that
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: type of thing. I had a father, So that's always
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: been like a deep thing for me. Like I've had
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: the strongest of black men, my uncles, They've done this
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: and that. But dating in the public eye has always
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: been black men. And I think that did that to me.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: You ain't gonna give me nothing, maybe cry, yeah, but.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I think I did that to me. And I just
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: had to check myself.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: And say that's why I did, you know, go to
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: therapy and say, well, why do you you know you're
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: married now? But outside of that, why were you always
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: dating white men? Was it a thing? Is it a desire?
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Did the country music know? It was a I didn't
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: want to be hurt again? And then it was the
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: convenience of who I was around.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Why do you think white men not gonna hurt you?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: All them they'll kill you. They're serial killers. That's my.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: White men, not men are men.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: But there's different love languages. White man.
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: To go to Nashville to be to be a hip
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: hop and see all the black men and to be
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: a hip hop and we stay out to.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Four or five in the morning to go to Nashville.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: And my first session, they say they looking at me
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: crazy because we're going over six o'clock.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I said, what the fuck is going on?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: And they say, everybody go home to their families to
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: see an industry with that much money being made and
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: every producer and artists they work from nine to five,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: and they go home to their family. Regardless of what
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: they do on the internet.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: In the day. They gonna go to their family.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: They're gonna get married, They're gonna go home to their family.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: They're going to provide. You know what I'm saying.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: It's just a different love language and culture and they
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: still mean. Yeah, they still were all made by God,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: so they still gonna cheat. I'm not saying that they
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: don't cheat and do things like that, but the love
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: language and culture of what I'm witnessing is it doesn't
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: My words don't have to be factual. What I'm witnessing
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: in what has been named the whitest city in America, Yeah,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: it is.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: The white Atlanta. And what I'm witnessing is y'all really
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: finna go home to y'all kids and family, y'all gonna
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: lead a music They thought I was crazy. Wow, we
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: go to our family. So it's just that type of thing.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Was it just therapy?
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Like I mean, I'm still in therapy. I don't think.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: I think you have to call out yourself first, and
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: you gotta understand. You say, oh I date this, this
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: is this, No, there are, it's your pick and what
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: you've had to experience, what God allows you to go
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: through to write these songs or to be the woman
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: you are, This is what you picked.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: There are.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Like, my son just graduated from North Carolina Central three
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: point three point eight g p A. My son has
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: been accepted into Berkeley job for a scholarship and business.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: That's my pedigree, that's my child, that's my my black boy.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: He has black boy happiness, black.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Boy magic, you know.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: And I wouldn't want another black woman to look at
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: my child and say I've been hurt by black men.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: So I don't want to I don't want to date you.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know because he's a phenomenal, you know, a
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: phenomenal man, and you know, seeing everything from Nolan Wells
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: and everything going on.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Right now and being an adult in this I said,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I needed to.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I needed to figure out my perspective and things like that,
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: like I'm not saying that, Okay, I date white men
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna talk about black men. Nah, I get
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: right on and I fail with y'all in fight, like
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: you're not gonna play.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're not gonna play. I don't. I
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: stand with us. I don't play like that.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: But when that dating and I started to just date
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: and play, you know, and white men and say things
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: in the media, I think even here are places I
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: don't date black men. It wasn't a thing that black
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: men are not worthy or it was a thing of
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I been hurt, Like, I don't know how to if
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: you keep on Dayton, if you keep on dating you know.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: A Gemini, No more Gemini. You know what I'm saying.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: So I get it.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: I just you know, dating the white men was just
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: a response to your trauma though, So that wasn't gonna
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: work either.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't gonna work any But I can't say
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: this now, Searla. Y'all could get mad and envy y'all
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: can get mad.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he did.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: But what I've said is the cultures are different, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: I want that love. We are over here, we over
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: here calling women bitches hose and we over here singing
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: about side pieces. If you call a woman a bitch
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: and country music, you will never hear the state.
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: Oh no, I believe it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: They whatever they doing behind the scenes and all of that.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: If you if you can't say call women bitches and
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: holes in the music period, but in country music.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: They call black people.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Nigger all they do, all they do, but right now,
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: right now, but they don't. They case sing that, but
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: right now it's white don't white crime going on in Nashville.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: So I just sit back because you have the country
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: singers that like Casey Musk Grays and all of these
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: people who are against Mecca, and then you have the
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: ones that believe in Mega. So you have a separation
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: in country music. Of I'm like, oh, well, that's why
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I don't white crime.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't kind of I don't want to deal.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I just what I'm saying.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: But there is a separation going on in Nashville right now.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: The people who are upset with the Maga people. And
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: it's a lot of Maga people, you know, there are
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: this and that. So you have a whole divide going
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: on in the music realm in Nashville right now.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: You know, like I think, Okay, so my first.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Issue of racism, like my favorite artist was and is
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: like Morgan Walland is my favorite artist. I'm going to
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: tell you so.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Not out. When I got to Nashville, I heard a
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: song that like completely changed my life as artist.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: It's called Talking Tennessee. And I looked at my husband.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I said, I wish you loved me like that. So
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: I didn't know what.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: This song was.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: It came up and he released Dangerous and that album
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: did like one hundred some thousand like the first week
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: and all of that. And so then you know, the crew,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: everybody my album now, even Ernest and everybody that writes
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: his songs, and we all you know, that's my album
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: that's about to come out. So this man said, nigga
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: right right, yeah, he said, nigga, you watch it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And he's like, make sure my nigga get homesick.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was talking to somebody in his crew.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: It's whole band black, right, So he said, I don't
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: know that.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I thought he was talking to his way.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: He think he is deep in the barbecue. Let's again
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: He said, make sure I'm not let me just break
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: it down and we'll go home. He said, make sure
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: my nigga, my nigga, he think mentioned my nigga get
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: home safe.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: That's what he say.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: The white neighbors, White Nashville can't handle Morgan Wiland. Morgan
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Wiland favorite rappers, money bag y'all. Morgan Warland is at
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: the barbecue and he they don't accept him as bad.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: So he's singing these songs that Morgan Wireland's album is
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: R and B. It's just an R and B album,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Her dresser's black women I
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: have put onto this. So he said, make sure my
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: nigg go home. Say the neighbor the cararen next door,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: take the ring and then.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Release the ring.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I've seen the video.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: It was a ring thing. She had took it and
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: all of his black friends was there. He was like,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: make sure moneys get home stafe. That's how he acted.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: And he had pissed off so many people the white
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: community that they hated him. So he fitting me in, well,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: whatever it is, so they released it and then that's
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: when it went hold.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Let me say the quote he said, take care of
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: this pussy ass motherfucker.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Take care of this pussy ass nigga Jesus.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Like that, like I mean he do, like may take
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: care of his pussy, his whole I'm telling you from
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: someone and I'm not. I don't defend anything. We can't
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: say the word. We can't do that. And I said
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: to him, you come to a barbecue, but you can't
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: go to barbecue like that. You're like, never that cool.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: That's never that cool. The conversations that you have with
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: people and things. It's funny how we pick and choose
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: our outrage.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Like alwa, none of my white homeboys use that word, though.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I don't either.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: They can't around me people, but in this culture and
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: then this thing will allow people that aren't black to say, nigga,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: we picking cheo, so you get to be.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I know, I didn't say that you did that. I
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: didn't say that.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I'm not calling out nothing and this and that I'm saying.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: I was in Nashville.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I love this.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: I saw that happen, and that is someone I started
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: to form a relationship with and heard heard him out
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and said, I don't he is black culture. He loved
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: black but even loving black culture and a barbecue, that's
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: still something that is sensitive to my people, to everything.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: No matter how cool you are, it's not a cool thing.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: It's a hurtful thing. So then they don't let him
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: submit for the Grammy. They this and that, But we
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: don't even know who exists. So we're not fighting aboudy yet,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That's y'all doing this and
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: putting this in our face.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: We don't know.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: And then and you know, you gotta do this, and
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: that it wasn't about us. That move on him and
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: leaking at wasn't about us. We needed to see it,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: but that wasn't a move.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Didn't like him.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: That wasn't a move to help us. So we gotta
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: help us. It's us, But that wasn't a move to
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: do that. So my first experience of any racism within
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: country was in Nashville.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: He invited me to a concert, and yeah, invited.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Me to come, his first time selling out the arena,
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: and he had everything set up.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I went my manager, big old afro.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: You know, I had my titties pushed up to my
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: chin and I had braids in and everything I went.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: I had never been so uncomfortable being right there and
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: a Dylan and I watched white women hitting each other.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I saw him like why is she right there?
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Like who is that girl? Like what is that? And
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I left.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: It probably was all of it, just being black and
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: knowing all these country songs and having the white men
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: like screaming for you and like all of that. I
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: remember I left and he got off stage and he
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: said where you at?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I said at White Castle.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I had left and went to White Castle and he
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: was like that, you know, I wish I was there.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not taking up for nobody staying the word, and
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: that's not what I'm doing.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the biases in just entertainment and in
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the world period.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: And I've watched black country singers won't work with and
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: treat they own.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: More fucked up.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Than white country artists trying to understand our culture and
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: all of that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: So you've reached out the black country.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: I have list, like it's only about fifteen of us
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: in the city that's really there.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: So, like Vicki Guiden has always supported me. I just
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: saw her did a post the other day about me.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: All of that.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: My thing is okay, he can get mad at me
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: and say whatever, but's your boozie.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: So when all of that happened, and all of that's.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Your boozie, this and that, I got it, you know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: the Nigerian singing country.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: I get it. Okay, I got Okay, what's going on?
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: So I did.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: I looked at my DM and I saw and he
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: was like, you know you the gold this and that,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: and I'm cooking.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I'm cooking some.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: Turkey chops or pork chops. He like, you know, he
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: cooked me some or whatever. Give you a number of
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: my A and R is Colins saying you're looking for me.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: But when I text you and I you know I'm
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: not a future girl. When I text you a boy,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: the feature you don't answer back. Bitch y'all't need no
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: feature from you, because once they find out you don't
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: like black women, it's old for you anyway. Well, I
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: propos say that you can put this well, but I
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: just think that's just weird. And we do each other
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: so bad. We do each other so bad.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: Do you think that they're chasing the validation from the
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: white people, That's why they so quick. They won't do
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: the same thing that they did to you too, the
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: white artists.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think. I think a lot of
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: people do it, I think.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Like great job, like like like great job at that,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: but the core and the.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Things you trace that validation because you want to show
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: the black people you black, you know what I'm saying,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: You go to a black girl.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Let me go to this black girl and tell her
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: she to go then then do this and this and
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: that and then performative. It's just kind of how it is,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: you know, it, kind of how it is. What's cool
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: now and who's cool? What's the black person that's cool
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: this and that? When there are people that aren't black
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: that will go so hard for you, high than your own.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: And it's hurtful. It's hurtful because I literally I will
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: go to war.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I will fuck up all my ship and go to
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: war for my people, and then my people will go
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: to war to.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Up.
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: I think it would be different too if they just
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: if he gave you a reason. I guess you said, yo,
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: I don't want to do the record right now because.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Of Yeah, but don't don't be texting me calling me
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: to go about punk chops and shit like that.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: When you need to show urban, you know, show that
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: you're urban. And then I didn't ask for your phone numbody.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I an't reach out to you. I don't ask anybody
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: for anything, like, don't do that. I got Dollar Party
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: sending me records. No, I don't don't reach out. You
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: know what up to me on that? And then I
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: say something to you. I don't ever want to be
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: the bitter artist about a record because I don't ever.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: I don't ask for a feature. I don't see anybody.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: But you do all of that in the midst of
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you needing to be urban.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: And you're texting me about a lot of things, and
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: I talk to you about a record and then you
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: just go complete numb.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I don't dead. I don't care that you have a
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: hit record.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I know the longngeovity and business, and I know you
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: can't sing, and I know that's not what I'm.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Just do that you know how you know you fucked
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: up a minute? Just not don't there.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Quick?
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Which one of the ladies shocked you most on Real
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: Housewives of Atlanta that you have anybody that you she
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: shot you the most in a good or a bad way, a.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Great way, like I just you know she's been through
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: a lot, you a lot of things about her this
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: and that.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: But as far as.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Like real advice about the show and different things.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Phaedra has been the one out of surgery.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: She's come to the room, she's been there, and she's
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: been the one that shocked me the most.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Would you do a record with Samiya and Juice Door.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Because you don't feel like they can't sing or they're
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: not on your level.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Oh I just don't care.
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, what was in the damn purse? Listen you, I'm
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: gonna tell you.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: I know your therapy has been working for you because
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: back in the day, came to show with and left
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: no goddamn table and with no argument with somebody trying
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: to come for her.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: You left the bag was there?
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: It was?
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: What was in the bag? You ain't even care about
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: your purse something you give it to you.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I know this. This is a lot of money right here.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: If you go like you're from Memphis and you behave
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: as a Myphian would do, You're gonna lose all of
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: that money and all these opportunities like I'm not used
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: to like a valley girl poker, Yeah, like a real
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: gas lighter.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: She good, Yeah, I get it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: She's like, see I'm not used today, So I had
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: to leave. I just know I needed to get away
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: to Yeah. Yeah, growth.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: Do you do you do you think because people always
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: confuse transparency with chaos.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just think that you're a very transparent person.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: Do you think you finally reached the place where people
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: appreciate your honor the instead.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Of judging it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: I think, like I think now we get to see
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: so much fuckery and I feel like it was chaos
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: at this point and this and that, but I've been.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Controlling it more.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: But I feel like some things need to be said.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: And y'all, I'm talking to three people not scared to
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: say it. But in the world right now, people are
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: scared to say it because of being canceled this and that.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: So I feel like people who actually speak and say
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: what it is, I feel like right now they're needed
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: and appreciated.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Michelle, we appreciate you for joining.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Us and don't be a stranger.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Let's get on the single.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I love, y'all.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Let's get on Jack Daniels a single.
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, let's let's cut on some Jackson.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: You want to play something else, I don't care.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's get it on Jack Daniels album.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Album coming out with October what is it sixteenth? October
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Sixteen's has been ten years, but.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: October, well, you better bring your ass back up here
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: before that.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Now I'm coming up here. I was here. The name
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: of them Jesus.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: And which Jesus WI? Okay, okay, all right, all right,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: it's the Breakfast Club. It's Kate Michelle hold On.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: Every day I wake pick your ass up the Breakfast Club.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: You're finished for, y'all.
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: Dump