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Inside the Jeffrey Epstein Birthday Book · Conspiracy! The Show

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  Speaker 1: W T Insurance. True I'm a checkup with True than is.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host
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  Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown joining me his co host this week,
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  Speaker 2: Connor mcspadden's here.
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  Speaker 3: How's it going, man, Honored to be your Galaine Maxwell.
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  Speaker 2: It is fucking go. Time for a conspiracy theory podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. There's a lot happening man. The Epstein book,
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  Speaker 3: the Charlie Kirk shooting.
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  Speaker 2: Man definitely unrelated, but yeah, you might not have heard
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  Speaker 2: because of the charge Kirk shooting. But the Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 2: birthday book came out.
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  Speaker 3: This is really like the salmarillion for the Charlie Kirk shooting.
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  Speaker 3: It proceeds it. This is all the lore you need
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  Speaker 3: to really understand it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie Kirk was one of the last prominent right
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  Speaker 2: wingers still calling for the Epstein files. This episode is
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  Speaker 2: not about how curious it is that he got assassinated
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  Speaker 2: a day before this book came out. But it might
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  Speaker 2: be someday. But now, right now, we're just talking about
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  Speaker 2: that fucking book.
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  Speaker 3: Because the book is fucking weird. The book is one
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  Speaker 3: hundred pages of weird. It is, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not child porn. You're not going to look
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  Speaker 2: at it and feel like you're committing a crime. It's just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the context around it, and it makes every
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  Speaker 2: word in it fucking suspicious and creepy and strength.
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  Speaker 3: It's also kind of clearly written in innuendo and inside
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  Speaker 3: jokes and code. Yeah, but to every little crumb of
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  Speaker 3: the coherency that is actually there, to just a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of rampant kid fuckery. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't ever blatant least say that. It
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  Speaker 2: just always hints at it.
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  Speaker 3: It just talks about holding women at knife point. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's all, you know, just totally chill vacation stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and pretending to be a girl's father so you
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  Speaker 2: can get on the phone and get her brought up
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  Speaker 2: to your place so you can look at her boobs.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know that that girl was underage. She probably was, though.
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  Speaker 2: There are letters from a couple women in here who
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  Speaker 2: are at least adults and were adults when they met
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein, which I thought that was odd.
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  Speaker 3: The Stockholm syndrome section where everyone he's trafficked is like, well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I got to go to a visa, so
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  Speaker 3: I don't hate it yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that shit. It's disturbing as fuck.
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  Speaker 2: We'll link to PBS has the actual book the PDF
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  Speaker 2: as the government released it, so we'll link to that.
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  Speaker 2: But also there's a writer named Ellie Leonard who apparently
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  Speaker 2: works in the field of transcription, and on her substack
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  Speaker 2: she has transcribed the entire Epstein book, so you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to try and read people's shitty handwriting.
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  Speaker 3: And boys, the handwriting shitty, almost all of it. It
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  Speaker 3: was Glene Maxwell, a fucking doctor. I can't read a
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  Speaker 3: fucking thing, she said.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like she was writing shorthand or some shit.
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  Speaker 2: Her handwriting, especially fucking nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: It's worth a flip through. Even if you listen to
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  Speaker 3: this podcast, it's worth flipping through it just for all
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  Speaker 3: the rare jeffries you get. You get lots of rare
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  Speaker 3: pictures of Jeffrey Epstein. If you're a jeff head, you
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  Speaker 3: want to see what he's all about. You get some
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  Speaker 3: good fits in there. I mean, you know, as much
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  Speaker 3: as I hate the guy, he's got some solid fits.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he had cash, yep and he was in
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  Speaker 2: decent shape. Lots of pictures of him with no shirt on, lots.
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  Speaker 3: Of flat fucking stomach too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Abs, Yeah, you can tell the peeper wasn't
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  Speaker 2: that huge. There's a bunch of pictures of him with
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  Speaker 2: dudes in their underwear, and seems like everyone else's packing
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  Speaker 2: a little more than unlike Epstein.
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  Speaker 3: The Charlie Kirkshueter, we did not notice bold.
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  Speaker 2: So the book is out. It opens with a handwritten
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  Speaker 2: letter from Julayne Maxwell that's just kind of a rundown
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  Speaker 2: of what the whole book is about.
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  Speaker 3: And I gotta say, putting a book like this together
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  Speaker 3: for somebody is a huge undertaking. You got to contact
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  Speaker 3: everybody they've ever known and pressed them for this weird
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  Speaker 3: personal emotional favor and with their whole on again, off
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  Speaker 3: again relationship, Jeffrey clearly had this woman under his fucking thumb. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And the only way I can describe Glayne Maxwell's relationship
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  Speaker 3: with Jeffrey X theme it to my understanding is it
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  Speaker 3: seems like the woman was straight digmatized kinda yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: by his egg shaped dick. That's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 3: details is when they finally get him in for questioning
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  Speaker 3: and if it's like the first question they asked them
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  Speaker 3: if you have an egg shaped penis walks out.
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  Speaker 2: So we already mentioned, but one of the big hassles
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  Speaker 2: here is Julayne Maxwell's handwriting is fucking atrocious. She wrote
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  Speaker 2: a caption underneath Jeffrey Epstein's Boy Scout graduation certificate, which
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  Speaker 2: is in this book, and it just says, no, something left.
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  Speaker 2: I can't even make out the middle word, but it's weird.
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  Speaker 3: It could have been pussy or pinewood derby cars. No. No.
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  Speaker 2: There's also a picture of what I'm assuming is him
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  Speaker 2: as a kid with two other kids, and the caption
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  Speaker 2: she wrote says the first girlfriend.
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  Speaker 3: Which again it's Glen, has a notoriously body sense of humor.
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  Speaker 3: She's very blue, but in that really kind of unappealing
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  Speaker 3: way that people that aren't comedians are overly sexual and blue,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you don't really know what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: She's just like, look at these bachelorette party straws. I
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  Speaker 3: got her shape like dicks. Isn't this so fun? That
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  Speaker 3: was another one of everything she had, little dick straws.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the beginning of the book isn't that salacious?
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  Speaker 2: I would say it takes a little bit before it
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  Speaker 2: really starts getting into Oh, this guy's definitely a pedophile.
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  Speaker 3: So it doesn't that seem like he was human trafficking
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  Speaker 3: people when he was seven?
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  Speaker 2: We can say that, right, right, It seems like at
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  Speaker 2: least for a while he was on the straight and narrow.
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  Speaker 2: Seems like it might have started happening when he was
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  Speaker 2: like seventeen or something. I think he got into it
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  Speaker 2: pretty early.
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  Speaker 3: But before that, he was just a straight a accordion
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  Speaker 3: playing student.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. His accordion playing is really the left field highlight
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  Speaker 2: of this book that I was not expecting. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect to come away from this book with that tidbit.
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  Speaker 2: But Jeffrey Epstein apparently accomplished accordion player.
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  Speaker 3: I was content living in the universe where weird Al
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  Speaker 3: Yankovic and Jeffrey Epstein had nothing in common. I love
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  Speaker 3: the former.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So the book then moves into a section called family,
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  Speaker 2: and it's pretty standard Monday and stuff. There's pictures of
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  Speaker 2: him and his family when he was a kid, letters
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  Speaker 2: from his mom about his upbringing, again nothing too sillacious.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's a section called Brooklyn and there is
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  Speaker 2: a typed letter from someone named Fran that I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if this is just accidentally questionable. But this is
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  Speaker 2: what I mean when I say every word in this
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  Speaker 2: book feels suspicious. This is what Fran wrote. How I
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  Speaker 2: remember Jeffrey. Jeffrey was born in average size, a dazzling smile,
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  Speaker 2: laughing blue eyes, the mind of a truly great mathematician.
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  Speaker 2: To me, he is someone beyond all description. My contribution
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  Speaker 2: a simple toy for such an outstanding little boy. He
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  Speaker 2: assembled thousands of nuts, screws, and bolts, created an empire
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  Speaker 2: with astounding results. The memory I shall never forget it
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  Speaker 2: all started with an erector set, Love you forever, Fran.
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  Speaker 2: Something about seeing the line it started with an erector
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  Speaker 2: set makes me suspicious.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, is this another weird boner joke in this indecipherable tome.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of poems in here too, Yeah, who
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  Speaker 3: was that? No one has ever written me a poem?
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  Speaker 4: Never.
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  Speaker 3: No, They've got a lot of great friends. I never
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  Speaker 3: got a poem from any of them.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like if you had someone put a book
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  Speaker 2: like this together for me, no one would write a poem.
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  Speaker 3: I would now only because I would be doing a
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  Speaker 3: callback to the Jeffrey Epstein book. But you know, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I would. That's just because I'm fun.
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  Speaker 2: Recreate the Trump letter if someone asked me to do this.
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  Speaker 3: With my weird pubic hare's signature.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, we're going to talk about the Trump letter.
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  Speaker 2: It's in here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yes, it is.
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  Speaker 2: It sure is, as is a letter from Bill Clinton.
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  Speaker 2: But who wasn't expecting that? What'd you think about the
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  Speaker 2: newspaper article clippings. I can't tell if those are real,
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  Speaker 2: or if they're real but from a parody type publication,
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  Speaker 2: or if Julane Maxwell just made them up, But they
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  Speaker 2: are some crazy ass news articles that are clipped in
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  Speaker 2: this book.
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  Speaker 3: Did they have a sort of a photoshop of that
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  Speaker 3: time that they could have used to make these things?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's they seem so fake, but it's also like, well,
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  Speaker 3: why did she make them? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And they're written as if they're newspaper articles. The first
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  Speaker 2: one is about a boy whose mom forced him to
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  Speaker 2: play Flight of the Bumblebee and saber dance on accordion
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  Speaker 2: one hundred times a day for five years, and then
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  Speaker 2: would force him to perform in public, and if he
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  Speaker 2: refused to perform, his quote Treasured Nathan's Lobster salad end
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  Speaker 2: quote would be withheld from him.
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  Speaker 3: What Yeah, what?
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: Capital what?
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  Speaker 2: And then it ends by reassuring us that he did
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  Speaker 2: get a pound of his favorite treat after the performance.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't put away a pound of lobster salad by myself.
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  Speaker 3: Now between the two of us, I doubt we could
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  Speaker 3: do it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: One thing, I fucking hate lobster salad. I've never had it,
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  Speaker 2: but I bet I hate it.
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  Speaker 3: Lobster role I had overrated.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a fan of lobster in general. I've
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  Speaker 2: only had it once, but it was enough.
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  Speaker 3: Flatter that bumbled me on the accordion. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 3: that sounds like it would go pretty hard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would check that shit out. Then there's a
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  Speaker 2: follow up article about a b boy who lived the
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  Speaker 2: first thirteen years of his life eating only Nathan's lobster
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  Speaker 2: salad and drinking quote sunny Boy orange drinks. Is that
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  Speaker 2: a real thing?
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  Speaker 3: Let's see, I was a PepsiCo product from the fifties
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  Speaker 3: we forgot about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like it was an orange drink that
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  Speaker 2: was sold around Coney Island and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I feel like these are fake is because
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  Speaker 3: how on earth would this be an article in the newspaper. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: if there's plenty of kids that have survived the first
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  Speaker 3: thirteen years of their life on Mountain dew and they're
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  Speaker 3: not on fucking the local news.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so did Maxwell just type these up? Because this
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  Speaker 2: was what early nineties when they put.
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  Speaker 3: It when he was fifty he died in what twenty
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  Speaker 3: he died in twenty nineteen when he was sixty three,
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  Speaker 3: So twenty nineteen minus thirteen this two two thousands. Maybe yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they had photoshop and shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, maybe maybe she just photoshopped them.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, so, why do I know the age and
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  Speaker 3: year when Jeffrey Epstein tied offhand?
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised it was so long ago. I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was during COVID that he died.
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  Speaker 3: But now I always remember because I was with Tim
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  Speaker 3: Dillon in the lights out with David Spade dressing room.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it was quite the person to share
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  Speaker 3: the day with.
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  Speaker 1: So.
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  Speaker 2: Also, that article about the Sonny Boy Orange drinks, it
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  Speaker 2: quotes the mom of that boy as saying she thought
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  Speaker 2: the lobster salad would make her son a genius, and
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  Speaker 2: that the drinks gave her son bigger lips or playing saxophone.
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  Speaker 2: What again? Fucking what.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they could make a drink that gives
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  Speaker 3: you bigger lips unless it's like some kind of allergic reaction.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if you're drinking something in your lips
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  Speaker 2: are getting plumper, you've been poisoned.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in some way I would call poison control for sure. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And there is at one point in these files a
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  Speaker 2: business card that is just advertising Jeffrey Epstein as a
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  Speaker 2: piano and accordion player for all occasions, for all occasions,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't think there is an occasion where an
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  Speaker 2: accordion wouldn't be appropriate.
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  Speaker 3: Funeral, it's kind of a somber, wheezing instrument, or it
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  Speaker 3: can be a body jolly rompish instrument. You know, if
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  Speaker 3: you play a little poka, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: A little poka. Love it. So there's also an article
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  Speaker 2: that starts with this banger of a sentence quote, Lloyd
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  Speaker 2: Bridges human fish, a watermonger, and a local T shirt
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  Speaker 2: clad hippo were attacked by a school of deadly Coney
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  Speaker 2: Island whitefish. I don't know, I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what relation this has to Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 3: Is like hippo, which is this like referring to a
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  Speaker 3: fat friend of his and some kind of inside joke.
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  Speaker 2: See that's what I was wondering. Is this just all
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  Speaker 2: like really deeply coded references to shit Epstein has done
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  Speaker 2: in the past.
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  Speaker 3: This is like I'm reading the Hillary Clinton emails all
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  Speaker 3: over again.
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  Speaker 2: That Walnut Sauce email is fucking strange.
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  Speaker 3: There's some strange ones.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those John Podesta emails. If you think those aren't weird,
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  Speaker 2: you're fucking lying to yourself.
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  Speaker 3: I believe they refer to spirit cooking, which is basically
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  Speaker 3: Alistair Crowley making little cakes out of blood and cum
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  Speaker 3: and spit, yep, shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very fucking weird. So there's also a very
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  Speaker 2: strange article about a Brooklyn doctor named doctor shin Hoo yep,
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  Speaker 2: and this concoction he uses for improving the complexion of
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  Speaker 2: quote butterface teens. And I think we all know what
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  Speaker 2: butterface means.
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  Speaker 3: I never looked at a teen and thought, hey, look
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  Speaker 3: you got a butterface. That's the most crapy thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's where this book starts to veer into the
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  Speaker 2: child abuse.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me you're a pedophile without telling me you're a pedophile.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that article ends with this sentence. The results
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  Speaker 2: a cranberry sauce red appearance immediately after treatment, but after
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  Speaker 2: two weeks, all but one kinky haired Seagate boy had
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  Speaker 2: a peaches and cream complexion. A lot of references to
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  Speaker 2: kinky hare in this, and I think we know who
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  Speaker 2: they're talking about. That's Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 3: Get a bit of a fro.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in his younger days, very specific type of fro.
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  Speaker 3: Again, I think it is very weird to think about
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  Speaker 3: the complexion of any child unless it's your own child
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  Speaker 3: and they're struggling with AcBe and it's affecting their self
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  Speaker 3: as name.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could not imagine calling eighteen a butterface because
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  Speaker 2: that and.
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  Speaker 3: Plus you're checking out the body of eighteen, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Means you're trying to fuck that teen. Don't don't do
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  Speaker 2: I mean, unless you're also a teen, then.
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  Speaker 3: Than good God bless Yeah, have at it.
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  Speaker 2: Kids go nuts.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the horrible thing about this is just people
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  Speaker 3: trying to grow up and then some weirdo, some fucking
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  Speaker 3: creepy old lady pulls up outside your junior high school
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  Speaker 3: and offers you three hundred bucks to jack off Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: And there's even letters in here from girls who you
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  Speaker 2: can tell that exact thing happened to. But they's just like, Jeffrey,
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  Speaker 2: we love you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. This dot com stin drum section.
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  Speaker 2: And to their credit, one of those letters is from
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  Speaker 2: a woman who was twenty two when she met Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: So at least when I read that part, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: thank god, you at least you know, weren't a kid.
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  Speaker 3: I bet she looked seventeen somehow, you know, Oh, definitely,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure old jeff was only makes an exception for
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  Speaker 3: an old maid like that under certain circumstances.
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  Speaker 2: There's another article in this section that's just weird newspaper
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  Speaker 2: clippings about eighteen who makes a tuna salad called dynamite Tuna.
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  Speaker 3: Why what are all these fucking fish salads? This motherfucker's
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  Speaker 3: eating lobster salad, tuna salad. This guy has the worst
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  Speaker 3: culinary taste.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's gotta be a coded reference.
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  Speaker 3: To say, I mean fish and pussy. I mean that
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  Speaker 3: you're immature as a motherfucker that you could certainly draw
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  Speaker 3: a little parallel there.
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  Speaker 2: And there is this article about dynamite tuna, and then
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  Speaker 2: a few pages later there's a black and picture of
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  Speaker 2: some dude with long hair, and it has a handwritten
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  Speaker 2: caption above it that says, send this poor starving child
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  Speaker 2: of nature a nice can of dynamite tuna. Could you
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  Speaker 2: have it on your conscience? Not too so. Dynamite tuna
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  Speaker 2: fucking means something, Yeah, but it's not explained. They should
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  Speaker 2: have had a glossary at the end of this that
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  Speaker 2: we could reference and make sense of these reference.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go out in a limb here and
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  Speaker 3: using my own immature brain, I'm gonna assume dynamite tuna
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  Speaker 3: means good pussy, as in, like that pussy is dynamite.
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  Speaker 2: It's gotta be. It's gotta be. Like, there's no way.
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  Speaker 2: It's just an innocent thing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's talking about a guy who loves fish. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein, I'm sure did not have an actual great
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  Speaker 2: tuna salad recipe. But if he did, I bet it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't that good. I'm kind of a purist when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to tuna salad. I'm a mayonnaise, salt and pepper guy.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. You put anything else in tuna salad?
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  Speaker 3: Fuck? Off. Why fuck around? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Too much, too busy, So things start to get a
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  Speaker 2: lot more unsettling after that, dinam.
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  Speaker 3: Unsettling after the Butterface teens and the Dynamite pussy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts going downhill pretty fast.
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  Speaker 3: The kid's somehow worse.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a couple of pictures of Epstein with
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: a bunch of guy friends and everyone is just wearing
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: underwear like.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: They're taking a schitz. Yeah, who brings in a fucking Hey,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: let's post for a group photo in this sauna. It's weird. Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Have you ever just been hanging out with your friends
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: in a bunch of you just pop your shirts off?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I have not when I lived in a crackhouse and
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: it was one hundred and ten degrees outside.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's the thing. This guy's not living in
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: a crackhouse. He's rental.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: He's cut the largest private residence in Manhattan, and.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: He's just standing around in his underwear with his buddies.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Which Jeffery Epstein's house used to be a school. Did
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you know that? Isn't that creepy?
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Oh that's not great. That's not great at all. Doesn't
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: surprise me though. It's probably a school when he bought it,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: probably still a school.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: He's like, what the kids don't come. This is a
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: terrible deal.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: So immediately after those images of him standing with groups
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: of friends in their underwear. People have probably heard about
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: this note that's in the book. I'm not sure who
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: wrote it. It's not signed, if you can believe it,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: but it says, girls on my boat. We picked up
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: girls on beach, went out on boat. I tell them
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: with knife in my hand, to take suits off, but
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Warren tells, don't worry. His name is jay N. He's
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: just joking. He lives at so and so I tell
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Mark to throw him into water. He did so. If
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: nothing else, some girl is having a knife pulled on
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: her and told to take a fucking bathing suit off
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the ocean.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: And why did you feel the need to recount this
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: anecdote Like you're sending a telegraph in nineteen twenty three,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: like threatened woman with knife stop, fell off boat stop.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: There's no it's all grammatically stutter step.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And why would you put any of this on paper?
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're confessing to a time.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my letter. If I was one of these people,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: my letter would be like, hey had a great time
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: at Dave and Busters. That one time we ate Calamari
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: rings and drank a couple of beers and played pole Position,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: sorry not pole Position. Different video games, yeah.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Less sexual video game, but Mario Brothers.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know why you would just
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: write this shit down and send it to someone.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if it's just going to center on
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: his bookshelf, you know this guy wasn't anticipating it being
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: a episode of Conspiracy the show in two six when
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the only podcast was Ricky Gervais and his friend Carl Pilkington.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: What did you think the first time you listened to
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: a podcast?
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: This is the greatest shit I've ever heard in my life.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: I fucking love this.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I hated it, I really yeah, I just I could
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: not get into it. I still don't listen to podcasts.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I listened to a very small number of them that
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: can tolerate. But my first podcast, embarrassingly enough now was
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Adam Carolla. Oh follow him over from KLSX. There are
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: the interrestrial radio days.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there was a time when Adam Carolla
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: was just.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: A funny guy, kind of a chill bro.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And then thanks Trump, God.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: His brain has melted.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that guy is fucking cooked. So next, there
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: are a couple of pages that are just similar to
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that boat story. They're just descriptions of various adventures with
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. And again it's not really clear who wrote
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: any of these, but there's one, for example, that says Castaways,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Volume one, I was porking some girl in bed and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Jeff brings in the maid to make the bed. She
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: left screaming it never came back end quote who the
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: fuck says porking?
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Come on, I'll tell you exactly who says porking? The
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: kind of unfuckable nerd that gets pimped out pussy from
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein. Yeah, Bill Gates says porky, you know what
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see maybe Bill Gates of all the people,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: being the one to say porking, like he's just got that.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: I say, poor, look, and.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Now this fucking poor maid has got to watch some
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: fat senator being a fifteen year old. I mean, this
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: is just horrible for everybody involved.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why did she run out of the room screaming?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Cancer that part. There's also another one when I say
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: redacted that means the names are redacted, but quote redacted
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: and redacted two very young girls, probably just seventeen, were
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: riding in my father's Caddy Park Avenue, top down, smooching
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: it up in car, drop dead, laughing, and then this
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: one might be the worst redacted. The rabbi's daughter, Jeff
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: would call the house rabbi's voice and say, this is
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: redacted's father. I would bring her up to your mother's
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: house and make her take her top off so we
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: could touch her boobs. Her and redacted would play together
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: with toys.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Oh oh, you're of toy using age. How old are
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: you when you get tired of toys? Like twelve?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, max, twelve thirteen something like that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, this is where it just starts to give
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: you a stomach ache.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it starts to get into Should I even
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: be reading this territory? I mean, it's not like the r.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Kelly p tape, which is just literal child porn and
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: if you're we're ever in possession of it, you owned
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: child porn. This isn't that, but it feels close enough
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: like you know what they're talking about.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even want to read the description on
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: the back of the DVD of child porn, which is
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: what this is. Yeah, you know, yeah, this is the blurbs, Yeah, exactly,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: this is the was that R Kelly tape in circulation.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: It for a while back when it happened. The tape
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you could buy it from like bootleggers. There were bootleggers
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: because it was such a long time ago, like.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: The only ways get your P tape heer P tape, DVD.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Kind of that, Like you could find it at like
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: swap meets and flea markets and shit like that. And
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: at one point a judge just issued a statement and
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: was like, by the way, if you are in possession
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: of the R. Kelly tape, you are in possession of
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: child pornography and you are committing a crime and you
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: should destroy that tape.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Good god, judge.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can proudly say I never saw the R
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Kelly P tape. I for one thing, I heard the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: video quality was just trash, which you know.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I stuck with the Dave Chappelle version.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: That is arguably the best Chappelle Show skit of all time.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: It's also one of my favorite Chappelle lines, which is
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: if a man cannot pian his fans, I don't want
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: to be in Show Business.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I like where he talks about getting confronted by R.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Kelly in an elevator and R Kelly goes, how are
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: you going to make a tape about Pe? And on
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: someone Dave Chappelle goes, how are you going to make
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: a tape a puppy? Someone so good?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Isn't that? We're reminiscing about Adam Caroll and Dave Chappelle
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: before they started to totally stink.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: So there's also a really long typed letter signed by
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: someone who calls themselves Johnny.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Boy and his father John.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: It talks about taking a trip to Europe with Epstein
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and how Epstein brought home a quote British babe who
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's Julaane Maxwell it sounds like, and how
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: bold of a move that was. And it ends with this,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you had to have confidence and an I don't give
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a shit attitude to bring redacted into your seagate world.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: It worked. You began to realize that you could get
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: away with shit, that chicks and people in general were schmucks.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: You sense that you were sharper and more astute than most.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Johnny Boy also says Jeffrey Epstein is his kid's role
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: model esh fucking yikes. I hope Johnny boy did not
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: know about all the kid fucking I hope.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: He was just really into math. Yeah that's the.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Only Yeah, my kid is just so into exchanging foreign currency.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: You have no idea he loves four X trading in
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the accordion or his two favorite things.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: So there's also a picture of him with a woman
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: whose face is blacked out, and the caption says he
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: is the boyfriend of redacted. We think he works for
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the CIA. So do I what a coincidence? I don't know, CIA,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: maybe Massad.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: But I mean why can't they collab?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you know they team up all the time.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I would say Massade just because of Glayne's dad. Yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: old Robert Maxwell. Yeah, that guy was a fucking piece
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: of work. The old sirens through of this shit.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: So right after that, there's lots of pictures of him
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: in bed or on his plane with girls whose faces
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: are blacked out. And then there's a children's section. Yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: When I scrolled to that part, I was like, oh
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: fucking no, oh no, here we go, and it is
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: just pictures of various kids. You don't see any other faces. Fortunately,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: No one's naked.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: There's a weird shot of what looks to be a
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: young boy posing seductively with his ass towards the camera. Yeah,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: that's pretty disturbing.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wearing pajamas. Yeah, a fucking nightmare. And then along
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: with these pictures of kids, there are letters that are
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: clearly written by children to Jeffrey Epstein, and one of
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: them is a made up story about Jeffrey Epstein never
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: having seen poop before, and it looks like it was
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: written by a very creative five year old.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: At best.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: It is insane. It is fucking insane.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: So this is like his you know, minor league, baseball,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: farm league. He's going to start grooming them when they're
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: fucking five.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, feels that way, because that's.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: How he would manipulate all of these people, is like
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: through scholarships and shit.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he would get in with the parents and he
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: always prayed on poor kids, because yeah, when you're poor,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: you'll go to some extreme links for money.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: You've got all the leverage.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also a letter from someone whose name is
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: unfortunately redact did because we need to know who this
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: motherfucker is. They refer to themselves as degenerate too, and
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: that letter includes the phrase so many girls, so little time.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Who the fuck is that? I want to know who
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: that is because their name is blacked out. I want
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: to know who wrote that fucking letter. Who is in
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: a letter to Jeffrey Epstein referring to yourself as degenerate too? Yausers.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: There is also a very weird letter from Jean Luke Brunel,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: who we now know was kind of the European division
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: of the Epstein sex trafficking operation.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Totally ruined the name John Luke for all the Star
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Trek Next Generation fans. Now, every time I hear it,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I just think of this creepy motherfucker.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: This guy died by suicide. Definitely also while Trump was
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: in office, super confirmed. Yeah, yew weird How all these
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Epstein deaths are happening while Trump was in office?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Must be the fucking Democrats.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, must be the Libs. Speaking of libs though, Yeah,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: yeah right. Bill Clinton provided a letter for the Booky.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: All right, hey, Jeffrey, Happy fiftieth. It's reassuring, isn't it
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: to have lasted as long across all the years of
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: learning and knowing, adventures and beyond, And also to have
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: your childlike curiosity to drive to make a difference, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: the solace of friends science slick Willie.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Anytime someone mentions curiosity in this I'm like, I know
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And the solace of friends like it just means
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: to be amongst fellow philanderers of miners. Yeah. Oh, and
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: then we got another really great guy coming up.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Allan Buckin Dershowitz, who is among all of the celebrity
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Epstein friends. He is one of the few that is
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: specifically named by Virginia Geoffrey, who recently died Rest and peace.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Rest and Peace, very brave to put herself out there
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: and talk about this shit.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We did an episode of this pod about her manuscript,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: which I believe was called Billionaire Boys Club, And Alan
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Dershowitz is just straight up named in that book a
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: few different times as having been someone who raped Virginia Geoffrey.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: And his letter in this book is super fucking weird.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: It involves him altering the cover of an issue of
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Vanity Fair and the title now says Vanity Unfair and
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: every story is about Jeffrey Epstein.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Egg shaped in or out?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Did it say that?
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just making because I wouldn't have been fucking
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: surprised that the egg shaped pen which is hot for
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: the fall, I don't know.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: There's also a letter from a venture capitalist named Bill
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Eckless about Epstein picking up a woman in Iowa and
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: convincing her to come back to New York with him
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: for the weekend. There has been at least a little
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: fallout from this book seeing the light of day. British
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: politician Peter Mendelssohn. He lost his job as m ambassador
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: to the US after his involvement in the book was revealed.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not one for cancel culture, but good.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it gets worse. His fucking letter. It's a
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: bunch of pictures, and he incorporates a picture with each
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: next passage of his letter, and at one point the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: picture is a photo of epstein Island and the caption
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: says one of his glorious homes he liked to share
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: with his friends. Yum yum in parentheses, you cannot say
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: yum yum in reference to Jeffrey Epstein and keep your job.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is not talking about the private chef. He
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: just didn't No, I'm not talking about the lobster salad.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Unless again, lobster salad is code.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: For something which or the dynamite tuna.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There are also letters from film producer Nick Leeese,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: former House Majority leader George Mitchell. You've probably heard that
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: there were a bunch of pictures of animals fucking in
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: the Epstein book. Those are all provided by a guy
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: named Nathan Meervold. He is the former chief technology officer
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: at Microsoft and co founder of a company called Intellectual Ventures,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and the principal author of Modernist Cuisine's apparently a cookbook.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Wow, quite the polymaths. These from the less children than
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: any cooks and codes.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his letter is the one that includes a bunch
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: of pictures of there's a zebra with just a massive dick,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: although I doubt that there are zebras out there with
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: tiny dicks micro penis zebras. Yeah, I bet they're all packing.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: It's only got two stripes on it that line.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And then there are those creepy, goddamn cartoons that I'm
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: assuming most people have seen by now. It was one
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: of the first things when this book was made public
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: that people started spreading around in the news. But it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: a drawing of Epstein handing a bunch of balloons to
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: a group of little girls and it says nineteen eighty three.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: And then there's another cartoon drawing of him surrounded by
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: a bunch of topless young women on the beach and
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: it says two thousand and three. We don't know who
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: drew those.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: They aren't signed, but they didn't seem to feel the
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: obligation to speak in any kind of code, did they. Yeah, Yeah,
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: that one is pretty fucking blatant.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Unless you change the balloons to a big pile of money,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: you couldn't be anymore fucking yeah.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And it's not really clear where those drawings come from.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: They immediately proceed a letter from someone named Joseph Pagano,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and they're right after another illustration that says dear Jeffrey,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Happy fiftieth and it has the name Joel on it,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: along with drawings of women and a drawing of the
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: exterior of Epstein's plane. So don't know who Joel is.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Don't know who did that remarkably creepy hand drawing of
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein giving kids balloons. That's all in there.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: You know, when you crrack the top ten creepiest moments
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: in the Epstein book, you're a fucked up guy. Oh yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: and it's a competitive bracket.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So now let's talk about Trump speaking of cracking
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Epstey's top ten creepiest moments.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is definitely a top tenor Yeah, he
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: seems to be putting the least amount of innuendo on
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: the whole thing.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Before the Trump letter, there is in this section
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: the picture of Epstein holding a big the Price is
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: Right novelty check for twenty two five hundred dollars, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: the caption along with that picture implies that he sold
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: a woman to Trump for twenty two five hundred dollars, a.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Woman who he describes is fully depreciated.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Which, if that's not a sick, fucking business joke, I've
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: never you know what I mean. That's just, yeah, to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: describe a human being as fully depreciated as it's sincerely
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: as to be funny, like to your boy, you got problems, man, That's.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fucking horrifying.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: She's not a fucking like a crackhouse you bought in Brooklyn.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: You're gonna flip and you know. Yeah.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: There are a couple letters after that. They're all very creepy.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: They're unsigned one of them is typed in comic sans font,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: and each word alternates between yellow, blue, pink, and purple,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: So it looks like something you'd see in a kid's book.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: And it's really that it is offensive to the eye.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's even the content of the letter,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I believe, if I recall correctly, isn't that salacious. It's
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: just the way it's typed out and presented makes it
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: look very childlike. And that's what you don't want in
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: reference to Epstein.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: You want a guy who's just completely clues, like, hey,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: thanks for the tax advice man. Sorry, I couldn't make
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: it to any of your dinners you invited me to.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: You know, there's people in this book who that's the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: whole thing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do feel bad for the you know, a
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: guy just trying to make a quick, dishonest book with
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: some shady tax advice, or like.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Chris Tucker, who keeps coming up in relation to Epstein,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: and he's like, I went on one fucking charity trip.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: It was his plane, there were cameras, there were no
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: kids on the plane.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Never met the guy otherwise, And he even comes up
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: in this in one of the letters. Someone's talking about
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: all the people she met, and she listens to Tucker.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: She's bragging them most. She's all excited, you meant Chris Tucker.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: She also lists Kevin Spacey, who was one of my
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's a terrible person, but in terms of
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: people advocating for the release of the Epstein files, his
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: justification is the best because he's like, I keep getting
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: named in the Epstein Files and I didn't fuck any kids. Granted,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I'm out to rape some eighteen year old boys, but
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not that kind of creep.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Wow. I didn't know that was his take. I hadn't
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: heard that.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: He didn't say I'm a creep in a different way,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: but he was like, release him my name. People keep
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: saying my name's in there. I want people to release
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: him so they can see my name's not in there.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Vin Spacey wants the receipts.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, when Kevin Spacey's being like, I'm not that creep.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Yeesh, Claire, it was a freshman in college, Claire, I swear.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: So there is a poem that kicks off part three
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: of the book, and that poem ends with quote Jeffrey
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: at half a Century with credentials plentipotentiary, though up to
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: no good. Whenever he could has avoided the penitentiary.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: How cute doorbs.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: No clue who wrote that. But the word Steuwie is
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: way down in the bottom corner in very small font.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: So I wonder if it was Stuie Griffin, could be,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: could be Jeffrey at half a century, I can't do Stewie.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I forget it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: And then there it is the Trump Letter. It's an
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: imagined conversation between Trump and Epstein. And here's the thing.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Trump's pushback is that this doesn't sound like him. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: think this sounds exactly like Trump.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And also just a bit of a nitpick written
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: not in proper screenplay format, yeah, written by a true
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: amateur yep.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And it is a telling of a conversation imagined between
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Trump and Epstein. And here it goes voiceover. There must
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: be more to life than having everything, Donald, Yes, there is,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: but I won't tell you what it is, Jeffrey, nor
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: will I since I also know what it is. Donald.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: We have certain things in common, Jeffrey, Jeffrey, Yes, we do,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: come to think of it, Donald, Enigma's never age. Have
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you noticed that Jeffrey. As a matter of fact, it
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: was clear to me the last time I saw you,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Donald a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: may every day be another wonderful secret. Oh, I take
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: it back, that doesn't sound suspicious at all.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Just boys being boys, Yeah, I mean little pals.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: They have certain things in comedy. Probably means that they're
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: both great with money.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's the only thing that makes sense and
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: wonderful secret. They must be talking about some of that
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: crack up tax advice that this guy's got. Yeah, you know,
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: rattling around in his mathematical brain.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: What if Trump can just shri the fucking accordion but
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: doesn't any want to know? And that's it would be.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: That would be so alarming hands even with his swollen
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: ass strokingee.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Fucking throwing down on a corn song.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Shit. No, he would play like Phantom of the Opera.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: He would played classic musicals. Yeah, he loves like eighties
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Broadway and he really loves it. He like. That's one
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: of the only humanizing things about Donald Trump is he
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: does have a sincere love of music that you can
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: kind of see when he talks about it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So the Trump letter, I mean, it's not the
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: last really alarming thing in there, but it's close. It
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: comes in near the end. The headliner the idea that
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: this letter would be fake. Someone would have had to
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: break into the Epstein a state and somehow bind this
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: letter in with all the other pages first, because I
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: don't think there's any dispute that this book is real.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great point.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: So how would a single fake page be bound in
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: with all these other pages. There's even an ad for
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the book binding company that did this book in.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I bet they're like, ate, we don't want to press man,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: leave us out of this.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: So this was like a professionally bound book. If you
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: look at it, it looks like, you know, a fucking library book.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Your yearbook or something.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: So how would a fake page get inserted into that?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I don't understand unless they just thought to frame Trump.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Way back when Jeffrey Epstein turned fifty, which yeah.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: In two thousand and six, they were like his run
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: for president with the Reform Party was a shot across
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the bow.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I forgot he did that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, until I said that.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: There's also a letter from Leslie Wexner, who was apparently
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: one of the few people who Epstein actually handled his money.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: His only client. He gave him ob scene amount of
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: cash for. Yeah, I think it was ostensibly tax advice.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Who knows. By the way, you should know about less wection.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: There's the CEO of the parent company of Victoria's Secret. Yeah,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: and a bunch of other horny companies. Yeah, so you
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: know some synergy there. Yeah.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Where there's smoke, his letter just says, Jeffrey, I wanted
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: to get you what you want, so here it is.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: And then it's just a drawing of boobs. Wow, at
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: least they're not attached to a child in the drawing,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, at least they're adult looking shapely breasts.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. After that there's a girlfriend's section again with more
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: letters from women. All of their names are redacted, and
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I think that's fair. One of them, though, mentions that
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: she was a virgin when she met him. That's cool.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: It's very cool, totally chill.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: And probably the only section that isn't completely horrifying when
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you take it in context with everything we know about
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Epstein is the end, where it's just letters from people
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: who used to work with in the seventies who are
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: all just like, man, you were good at math.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, before he you know, got the tap on the
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: shoulder from Mesad and you digmatized Glane.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine being one of those people and you're in
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: this book like, fuck, man, I knew him fifty fucking
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: He was just he was hot with the hydratic quadratic equations. Man,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: that was it. That was he was the bitch and
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: the factorer. He could factor the shit out of things.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: It seems like he was very good at math. It
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: seems like that part of his lore is not incorrect.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, he did get that job at the Dalton School.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I think it's called with absolutely no credentials your degree.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: It was very sketchy higher but you know, evidently he
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: had the goods.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Epstein getting hired as a teacher was sketchy.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: How That's one of the accounts of abuses. It's Jeffrey
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: and Gallaine in bed with a young girl watching like
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: documentaries about math on PBS, and Glaine's going like, isn't
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey so smart? He watches things about math, you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: and they're like trying to make it seem like it's normal.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's fucking creepy.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this book. It's creepy. There's no other
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: way to put it. It's a fucking unsettling read. I
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: wouldn't suggest it.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: If you were a total Jeffrey Epstein apologist. I think
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: you'd come away from this with some questions.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how anyone could read this and
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: assume Jeffrey Epstein wasn't up to some very nefarious shit.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: If I was Jeffrey Epstein's mother, I would be like,
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I have some questions, I got some have my doubts now.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, the shit in this book is highly fucking suspicious,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: and a lot of it comes from very prominent people.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: And they might not all be people you've heard of,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: but they are prominent people, and they have very powerful
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: jobs and probably make a shit ton of money. And
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I guess hanging out with Epstein and a bunch of
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: underage girls was what they liked to do for fun.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: That's a crime. That's that's a big, big, big crime.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Notably absent. Maybe he hadn't collected his this particular person
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: yet put nothing from Bill Gates in here.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't see any Bill Gates. What if
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: he's the one who did the balloon drawing Wow.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: He's got a pretty good con sense of composition. Yeah. Yeah,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: we had a lot of the other big players. We
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: had John Luke Burnell, we had Lesween Wexner, we had Trump,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: we had Clinton, Alan Dershowitz. Yeah, it's almost like the
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: whole gang is there except Bill who Maybe he had
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: the good judgment to not formally associate himself with his
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: child pimp.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be the smart move. But yeah, I
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: didn't see any Bill Clinton in here. Is there anything
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: about Prince There's no letters from Prince Andrew?
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Right, No Prince Andrew unless you count the one in
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey's egg shaped penis Prince Andrew.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this book, it's out there. Will link to it.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: You can look through it if you want. I mean,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: it's not a good read from an entertainment standpoint. It's
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: not fun.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: You got the rare Jeffries.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you will just have a lot of shit you've
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: suspected about famous people, probably confirmed like that Bill Clinton
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: letter certainly doesn't make me not think Bill Clinton was
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: fucking kids with Jeffrey Epstein.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Well, and how about all the pictures of the kids
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: doing weird sexy poses, like yeah, in pajamas. I don't
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: know how old this person is, but I don't know.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: It's just it's I don't even want to look at
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: this shit. It's it's disgusting.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah the pajama picture. That kid is fully clothed, and
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: it might be the most disturbing picture in Yeah, the
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: whole fucking thing.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: And Glene Maxwell's tits are in it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, it's real bad. It's real fucking bad. So
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: that's been the Epstein Book. Do we got any final
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: thoughts on it?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Nope? I think we left it all on the court.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we covered it. This was how I
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: started my day, It's how I started my week. Woke
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: up this morning and dove right into the Jeffrey Epstein
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: fiftieth Birthday Book.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Oh man, go take a walk in the park with
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: your wife. Yeah, I might.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I showered already, but I might shower again.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: I feel pretty gross. So Connor, thank you so much
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: for enduring the Jeffrey Epstein Birthday Book with me my pleasure.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I think that's our episode. What do we have to
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: plug before we get out of here? I'm writing again.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I was on substack, but they fucking love love love
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the Nazis so now I'm on beehive. That's b E
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: e hiv Adam Todd Brown dot beehive dot com. Go
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: read my articles. Everything I wrote at Substack is there
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: now and it's all free, even the stuff that was
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: behind a paywall, So go check it out.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: That's it. What do you want to plug this week?
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: I want to plug an interview I did with the
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: hilarious comedian Tom Goss on his very interesting podcast, Leaving
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: the Tribe. It would be a quite a different side
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: of the old con man that you're used to hearing.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: But really enjoyed the chat and if you want to
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: learn a bunch of weird shit about me, that's a
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: great interview, So go check that out. Leaving the Tribe
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: with Tom Goss.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot Keith sent me that text. We're
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: supposed to be doing a birthday book for Tom Goss,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: so to speak right.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's already passed. Oh so
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: don't worry about it now.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: God damn it. Mine was going to be all pedophile stuff.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: So that's our episode. Let's get the fuck out of here.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Nurse say goodbye, Gallen, I mean goodbye, goodbye everybody.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: We love you.