Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Strengthening Nursing Leadership Through System Thinking and Prioritization with Joy White
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- 0:26- Hi, everyone. This is Liz Cassello with Becker's,
- 0:28- and welcome to our podcast.
- 0:30- I'm thrilled today to be joined by Joy
- 0:32- White, vice president and chief nursing officer at
- 0:35- Legacy Health Good Samaritan Medical Center. Joy, thank
- 0:37- you so much for joining us. Absolutely. It's
- 0:39- my pleasure to be here this afternoon. Yeah.
- 0:42- So tell us a little bit about your
- 0:43- role. Sure. So as you mentioned, I'm Doctor.
- 0:46- Joy White. I'm the vice president and chief
- 0:47- nurse officer at Legacy
- 0:49- Health Good Samaritan Medical Center in Portland, Oregon.
- 0:53- I oversee inpatient operations, perioperative services, and clinical
- 0:57- support services.
- 0:58- And so that includes imaging,
- 1:00- food and nutrition, environmental services, facilities,
- 1:04- and a patient's,
- 1:05- safety and security.
- 1:07- I'm a wife. I'm a mother.
- 1:10- Let's see. What else? If I wasn't in
- 1:12- nursing, this is just a fun fact,
- 1:14- I'd be selling real estate. Oh, that's fun.
- 1:17- I love selling sunset. Big fan.
- 1:19- So what's top of mind for you right
- 1:21- now? Yeah. Top of mind in our world,
- 1:24- I've kinda put it in three buckets,
- 1:26- access,
- 1:27- excellence, and sustainability.
- 1:29- So access about,
- 1:31- is all about reducing friction for our patients,
- 1:33- ensuring they can move through our system without
- 1:35- difficulty and efficiently,
- 1:37- excellence in our commitment to delivering patient centered
- 1:40- care, high quality care, safe care,
- 1:43- keeping the safety of our employees, and then
- 1:45- sustainability,
- 1:46- really designing a health care system and models
- 1:48- and workloads
- 1:49- that our teams can maintain over time. So
- 1:52- these are the priorities and areas that I'm
- 1:54- really focused in, making sure that they're deeply
- 1:56- interconnected. They shape how we approach our operations,
- 1:59- our workforce,
- 1:59- our care delivery.
- 2:01- Yeah. In a nutshell, that's where I am.
- 2:03- So I would love to hear what is
- 2:05- a recent decision or pivot you had to
- 2:07- make that required a lot of conviction from
- 2:09- you, and,
- 2:10- you know, how did that challenge your assumptions
- 2:13- as well with decision making? Such a great
- 2:15- question, Elizabeth. Really great question. I think one
- 2:19- of the key focus areas this year has
- 2:20- really been the intentionality
- 2:22- with leveling up our nursing leaders
- 2:25- to think,
- 2:26- act, and operate more strategically.
- 2:28- You know,
- 2:29- gone are the days of we can solely
- 2:32- focus on nursing
- 2:33- and all things nursing.
- 2:35- I've got this,
- 2:37- this saying that I want you to look
- 2:39- left, look right, look up, and look down.
- 2:41- Who are all the stakeholders that impact nursing
- 2:43- and the work we're doing?
- 2:45- Because in a very complex matrix
- 2:48- organization,
- 2:49- we've got to think outside outside of nursing.
- 2:51- We've gotta think about every single
- 2:53- stakeholder, whether that is physical therapy, our physicians,
- 2:57- food and nutrition. And so this wasn't just
- 3:00- development. This was a capability shift,
- 3:03- enabling nurses and giving them the capability to
- 3:05- think beyond nursing. Right?
- 3:07- And so that's been a huge pivot, huge
- 3:09- shift, and huge focus area for me.
- 3:12- So I also wanted to hear about some
- 3:14- of the forces you think are reshaping health
- 3:16- care right now, and where do leaders need
- 3:18- to be putting more of their attention?
- 3:20- Yeah. I think it's in this place of
- 3:24- system thinking. You know, I'm gonna kinda pull
- 3:26- the thread on that same theme.
- 3:29- It is in the area of system thinking,
- 3:31- change management. We're in a rapidly changing environment
- 3:34- with the introduction of technology.
- 3:37- We are five generations in health care right
- 3:39- now. And so how do you develop
- 3:42- work processes and flows,
- 3:44- education
- 3:46- that speaks to all generations,
- 3:48- right,
- 3:49- and creates an environment where everyone feels seen,
- 3:52- heard, and is able to thrive, quality is
- 3:54- maintained,
- 3:55- efficiencies are maintained, burdens are reduced in terms
- 3:58- of our workload.
- 4:00- And so I would say
- 4:01- doing that system thinking and how do we
- 4:03- design multi generationally.
- 4:06- So I would also love to hear what
- 4:08- is a leadership habit of yours,
- 4:10- that has been grounding you and also keeping
- 4:13- your organization and people
- 4:15- propelling forward? Yeah. Such another great question. I
- 4:18- would say ruthless prioritization.
- 4:20- It is a habit. I've gotta keep the
- 4:22- main thing the main thing.
- 4:24- Everything can't be most important
- 4:26- because if everything is important, nothing is. And
- 4:28- so we are not,
- 4:30- you know, I it's that old saying, jack
- 4:32- of all trade, master of none. We don't
- 4:34- finish anything because we've got 32 priorities or
- 4:36- 32 projects underway. And so a habit of
- 4:39- mine is really assessing what's most important? What
- 4:41- should I be focused on? How do I
- 4:43- prioritize my day? What are the two or
- 4:45- three things that are gonna be the highest
- 4:47- priority for the day? And focus on those.
- 4:50- I would add to that, celebrate the win.
- 4:52- So at the end of the day, did
- 4:54- I accomplish the things I set out to?
- 4:55- And if for some reason I was derailed
- 4:57- from that, what did I accomplish? What can
- 4:59- I celebrate? And just having that mindful and
- 5:01- thankful moment, that gratitude moment at the end
- 5:03- of the day.
- 5:04- I need to embrace that myself for sure.
- 5:07- So pivoting a little bit, thinking about evolving
- 5:10- workforce expectations.
- 5:12- There have been expectations around flexibility, purpose, and
- 5:16- mobility.
- 5:16- So how is that influencing your role design,
- 5:20- schedules, and care teams?
- 5:21- Yeah. So, you know, I think about
- 5:25- everybody's been talking about scheduling and staffing. We've
- 5:27- been super fortunate, I would say. Oregon,
- 5:29- if you extract the cost of living, has
- 5:32- really moved up
- 5:33- very quickly in terms of, if not the
- 5:35- highest paid in the top three, highest paid
- 5:37- states in The United States. And so we've
- 5:39- seen less of a challenge with our recruitment
- 5:42- and hiring efforts because of that. We pay
- 5:44- a a very good wage in that area,
- 5:46- and the cost of living is is not
- 5:48- too high.
- 5:49- So we are learning from the workforce and
- 5:51- it's really, really clear that they wanna be
- 5:53- seen, heard, and connected to purpose. And so
- 5:56- when we think about what, like, retention and
- 5:58- maintaining staff and how we continue to attract
- 6:01- and retain, it's really been around that. It's
- 6:03- creating the conditions where people wanna grow, they
- 6:07- wanna stay, they wanna contribute, and that's been
- 6:09- our retention strategy. And so we've anchored that
- 6:12- work in a couple of key areas. One,
- 6:14- human centered leadership,
- 6:16- which we've trained all of our leaders in
- 6:18- human centered leadership, which means start with self.
- 6:20- Human centered leaders starts with the leader themselves,
- 6:23- and how they care for themselves. Because guess
- 6:25- what? If leadership looks, a hot mess and
- 6:28- people look burnt out,
- 6:30- that's not something that nurses are gonna aspire
- 6:32- to be or to do. So we focused
- 6:34- on human centered leadership, also stress first aid
- 6:36- for our teams.
- 6:38- We've really leaned in. As you know, it's
- 6:40- super controversial right now with diversity, equity, inclusion,
- 6:43- and belonging. We've doubled down. So we've doubled
- 6:46- down on our efforts, in that space. And,
- 6:49- again, I think it's this return to being
- 6:51- more intentional
- 6:53- and hospital based with our orientation. We moved
- 6:55- to a system orientation, which is great.
- 6:57- You get more people in a lot faster
- 6:59- from across the organization.
- 7:01- In February, we re reinstituted,
- 7:04- our hospital based orientation because we wanna bring
- 7:06- it back to home. Right?
- 7:08- And so that's another way that we've really
- 7:11- paid attention,
- 7:12- to belonging,
- 7:14- for the folks that we're recruiting and retaining.
- 7:16- Well, thank you so much for giving a
- 7:17- little bit of depth on that, and we're
- 7:20- really excited to have you at the event.
- 7:21- Awesome. Thanks so much, Elizabeth. This has been
- 7:23- great. Of course. And to our listeners, if
- 7:25- you're interested in listening to more podcasts, you
- 7:28- can visit beckershospitalreview.com.
- 7:30- Thank you, and have a good one.