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Sister Wives S5 E6 - Confronting Failure · My Sister Wives Podcast

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What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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Goodbye. You shut it off.
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Do not twist my words. Do not.
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Make me a victim, sweetie. Just look at the mountain.
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That's what you saw that day. Just the knife in the kidneys
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over all these years and the sacrifices that I made to love
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you. Oh my goodness, I need to see a
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chiropractor. I've got whiplash after this
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episode. Whiplash.
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It was so fast. Very fast.
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It's a Shorty so it was only 1/2
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lot of things that happened and it went really quickly.
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It was very fast a. Lot of talking one-on-one
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interviews where there were important things said that felt
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necessary to record with our handwriting, our cursive, your.
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Calligraphy Pen. Yes, we had to pause and make
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sure that our L's were just so.
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And apologies in advance. We have a little bit of delay
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with our recording because I was sick and before I was sick,
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Kimber was sick. And so if you hear extra
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wheezing, coughing in the background and sniffles,
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apologies. Apologies all around.
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I have taken Dayquil so maybe I'm even a little more dumb than
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Well, at least you're not on your deathbed anymore.
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Very sad you are missing me or missing the sister wives and.
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Oh yeah. Definitely had to come find you.
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Deathbed. I missed Christine so much and
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then they gave me a whole bunch of Christine in this episode so
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that was God's way of making me laugh.
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Season 5 episode 6 confronting
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Gotta love an episode with failure in the title.
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Ominous. And I will point out now that
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they started the episode with ominous music, and I don't think
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they've really done that before.
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Yeah, I'm not so sure, but it was.
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But I've noted. Oh, things are not going well,
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And we opened at Christine's house once again, A lot of
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Christine. A lot of Christine.
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In this episode, she tells us that she got a 73% on her
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practice exam for her real estate license.
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Was this the one before or after her first failure?
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After I believe she took a class OK so she failed she decided to
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take a class and then they gave a practice exam in the class and
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disgusting I got a 73. Disgusting.
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Well, they also gave us a flashback to her yelling in the
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restaurant about her initial failure, which is always great
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I failed. So that's some fun sepia toned
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uninterrupted and dedicated time for studying for this and she
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talks about having a 2 year old and how she's being constantly
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and she says perhaps This is why I failed.
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I think Truly is 3 OK. And she's like, I probably
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haven't gotten more than 15 minutes of non interrupted study
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As a single mom, you know that'll happen.
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Yeah, as a single mom who is married and has three sister
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wives, but she's definitely a single mom right now.
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I hear a lot about that in this episode, and I'm not mad about
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Sweet, sweet honesty. We've been missing you.
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Christine says failing would just be another failure, which,
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you know, OK, so we're going to be talking a lot about I'm
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taking off my, I'm taking off my sweatshirt right now.
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He still has a fever, mind you. He's sitting here, he's taking
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The sweats and the chills. He has a lot of experience with
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failure and he's getting worked up about.
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It Oh my gosh, this is it I'm it's like I'm reliving all of my
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She says that passing is a personal goal of hers.
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And you know, I really like her, she states the obvious.
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The way she says this, it's a personal goal.
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Something personally that I would do, something I personally
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Christine does have a way with words.
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Yep, Yep, Yep. Semantics.
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Saying the same thing over and over again with different words
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like I just did there. Maybe this will be the first
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failure episode for my Sister Wives podcast.
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Perhaps. Luckily that intro was short
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lived and the family, all of the Browns gather and go to the
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cul-de-sac to see the status of their dream homes.
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And there's a crew there breaking ground and getting
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things started for their homes. There's machinery digging up
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dirt. I don't know what that's called.
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An excavator. Excavator.
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See you. Later.
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Oh, yeah. Excavating the ground.
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Absolutely. So, you know, they're digging up
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dirt, getting, you know, Christine's like that's where my
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home is going to be. You're breaking my ground first.
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And they had to take the kids to
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happening. It's actually happening.
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OK. Yeah.
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Little proof. Proof for your pudding, finally.
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This pudding needs some proof.
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Again, We're not just to hoping,
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See here. What did that?
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What was that, Robyn? Like?
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You mean you're giving us a second chance at hoping?
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Yeah, Yep, here it is coming to fruition, ladies and gents.
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And Robyn gives us another precious Pearl.
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It feels like a long time since I've had a real home.
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This is it. I hope it is Robyn with the
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quotes again. And if there's anyone that I'd
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like to see homeless, it's Robyn.
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So it's a little like, cool, thanks for letting us know
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you're going to have a home, Robyn.
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If there's anyone who's been homeless before on this show,
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it's Robyn, right? Well, has she?
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I don't know if she's really been homeless.
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I mean, she lived with her mom
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That's not not what one would consider homeless.
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But there is a photo of Dayton
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heater in a trailer. So I don't know what that means
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to. Her that's homeless.
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Yeah, to her, that's homeless.
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and 1000 times darker than the
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Her neck, her neck, and her chest are exposed.
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Her long sleeves are just covering the arms.
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They are not covering the chest at this time and the chest is
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whiter than my ass. Oh God no, it wasn't that bad.
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It was really bad. Oh geez, it was bad.
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Her face has been a distraction.
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We did cover it in our last episode quite a bit about Meri's
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I think she stopped tanning the entire body.
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Oh, and saved a little money and decided to just tan from the
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chin up. So she should be rocking some
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turtlenecks or something. She should be doing something to
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spray tans finally and then just decided to use the same
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makeup that she was using when she was getting the full body
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spray tan. Oh, sure.
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It was problematic as always. Kody rehashes the move to Vegas.
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You know, we have to get some clips from back in the day,
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telling the kids about the move,
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blah, blah, blah, setting us up for this theme of confronting
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failure and maybe just not even confronting it, just failure,
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failure. So he's got to remind us of
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their previous failures, which
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Kody says this is significant.
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of security. I love his use of the word
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significant. I was like, oh Kody, it's a big
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word for you. Well, he doesn't know what being
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a significant other is, but he
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significant means in the sense
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children and give him a sense of
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Again, like what the fuck man?
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lies. Yes, absolutely.
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There is a moment where we get
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couch moment, and they say they think it'll be more like Lehigh
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for the families to be next to
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And that's something that we've heard in previous episodes kind
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of this whole things were better
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these younger kids get this experience.
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So, you know, the older kids are
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Probably prompted by a producer.
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Whatever. Yeah, kind of the first time
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that the older kids have said the younger kids need what we
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had in Lehigh. And Maddie says that she can't
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walls, to actually be able to paint and like claim a space.
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And I understand that. Well, yeah.
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And in this episode, there were moments where I noticed broken
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Like, there's just, they're in these rentals where things
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probably aren't kept up all that great.
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But then when you've got the Browns living there, you could
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And by the end of a year, year and a half, however long they've
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like it looks like there's like 17 cats and they've all
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destroyed everything. But it's just the Brown family.
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Well, Mckelty wouldn't have to
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hang paper on her walls to decorate.
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She'll actually be able to paint
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Can you imagine how splendid that will look?
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It'll be a creative outlet for
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Oh. My.
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Gosh, and we do get to hear more
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coming up. So on the couch with the
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teenagers, Mckelty has fresh, freshly dyed red hair.
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Oh yes, bright red. Very red.
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Not so fresh that it's on her skin, around her face or
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anything like that, but it is fresh.
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Yes, and it is red. Like when you think I'm going to
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the supermarket and I'm going to
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That's the color, and I've had
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And I just have to say, I make
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for their hair in this TV show, whether it's the Browns or the
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guests or whoever. And I I'm right there with.
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That. If you look at me at this time
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period, I literally like, AM these people, which is why I
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don't feel so horrible tearing
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could pull up the proof and be
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myself for the same fucking thing.
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So I feel bad about it sometimes.
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And then I'm like, Nah, girlfriend, you're basically
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making fun of yourself. Same.
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I've had the black hair, the red
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blue hair. I've had it all.
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And so I agree when I'm making
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when I had red hair, it really
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face because it was, I was a teenager and it was like the
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acne was like ha ha, ha because of the red hair.
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Oh. Goodness, it's.
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Quite a look while they're at the cul-de-sac, there's a moment
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where they all are going to cheers to this momentous moment,
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to this significant moment in their lives, and they show
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pouring some sort of red substance.
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Cranberry juice? I'm guessing Unless you have a
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UTI or you're mixing it with vodka, you're probably not
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drinking straight cranberry juice, Yeah.
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It's been years since I've had
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did get my mind. I was going to say racing, but
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that's not true. It did get my mind moving at a
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snail's pace and I was like, this would be so funny if
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instead of it being cranberry juice, if it was actually wine
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and they all got fucked up, they're all wasted on a
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cul-de-sac. I'd be like, oh, that'd be
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great, but it didn't happen unfortunately.
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Another failure. Outtakes after the end of the
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episode, just them stumbling their way back to their four
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separate homes all the way from the cul-de-sac.
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From like half a glass of wine.
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Berb. But they don't come out and say
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during the show. We do know, based on Christine's
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They're going to be.
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So they're drinking, but they're
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It Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep. We go to Christine Dean's house
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again. Next, we're talking to Mckelty.
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Your favorite person? Love.
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Mckelty love Mckelty. Oh, and we're back to this dream
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of being a world class fashion
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Oh yes, I actually, you know what?
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I'm going to blame my current illness on Mckelty because in
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the last episode we were saying her name like Mckelty and I
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strained myself and I never fully recovered.
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So Mckelty, you have hurt me personally.
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You're just such an Angel, you're not used to using the
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demon voice. I just want it stated for the
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record that Mckelty is personally liable for my
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illness. OK, Thank you, Mckelty.
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Christine says you want to hone in on a teenager's dream.
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You want to encourage them, especially if their dream is to
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become a world class fashion designer.
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And you look like Mckelty. So that's what we call a big
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dream. So we call a really big dream.
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Yeah, they're going to be going downtown to meet Jennifer
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Henry, the fashion designer extraordinaire.
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Absolutely. Christine, Kody and Mckelty are
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going to meet this Jennifer Henry and see some behind the
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scenes action of what it really means to be a world class
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fashion designer. Now, honey, I want to ask you,
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how many Jennifer Henry pieces
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I think that I wrapped some chicken in a piece of cellophane
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yesterday, so maybe 1, Christine
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They're going to see the nuts and bolts of it all, and then we
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get there and they are putting
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yes. No, I for those of you who are
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like me and are going well, what
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Is it like plastic wrap that you?
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Wrap, plastic wrap type of thing.
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And it totally looked like it.
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that had been melted down into
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compiled into a dress, but different colors.
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Yeah, it's like thicker than Saran wrap, but kind of similar
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and it was neat looking. The dress was not hit like.
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If I just saw it. I would have been like, oh,
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that's interesting. Like I wouldn't have said it was
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terrible or anything. It took some sort of artistic
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mind to make it, and it took a
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You couldn't just whip that stuff up on your own unless it
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was maybe Barbie scale and then I'd be able to whip it up on my
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own. Oh, but honey, you're an artist
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as well. I am, yes.
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You know my miniatures are gorgeous.
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Oh God, you're miniatures. Mckelty has perhaps the craziest
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curls I have ever seen in my life with this fresh red hair.
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I don't even know how to describe them.
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You said before sausage curls.
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were different, I wrote down. I've heard banana curls.
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Mckelty curled her hair to the
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Oh yeah, to the 9.9999 nines. It was intense.
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It was another hairstyle that I definitely had myself before.
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It was way intense. It was intense and she's trying
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to be cute. She's going to meet a fashion
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designer. She thinks this is a big deal.
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If we're being frank, She got taken it looked like to me to a
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salon to have I just some photos
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dress. This lady was trying to promote
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her designs and probably got the connection through the show
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and make healthy thinks. This is a really big deal and
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it's probably just for a local magazine, and I'm not knocking
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off that it's bigger than it actually is, Right?
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Yes. Yeah.
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To. Tee up the setting.
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It looks like they're gathering in like a hallway slash back
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office. Like the basement of a college
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know. Then they get to a salon.
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At some point, they're showing, like, footage from what looked
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But I think they start out dressing her and then they do
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cuts to perhaps the area where they had done her makeup before.
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And it looked like a college student doing her final, and she
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had to go and take photographs
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And they said, yeah, sure, kid, tag along.
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That was the vibes. Yeah, that was the vibes.
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The dress. The cellophane dress.
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It was a dress of many colors,
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Technicolor dreamcoat or something, but it was a
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cellophane dress. It was a plastic prom dress.
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It was a plastic. It totally was, and it wasn't
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even one or two colors. It was multiple colors.
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Yeah, Each layer of the skirt,
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Rick racked with cellophane, like draped with different
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colors of cellophane. And the model comes out to get
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her little ass into this dress, and she's wearing a short white
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petticoat, which I don't know what that was going to do under
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the cellophane. Like that would lift that heavy
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of plastic. Nah.
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And then she's wearing a black
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into the dress and get help and what what occurs?
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They're going to get the models,
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and then they're going to be getting into a car and driving
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to a location to photograph. The dress.
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So the way that we're being introduced to this is like once
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again in this setting of where
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And then she's undressing to get
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which sounds it look just as it just, I don't even know how you
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try to do this. So there was multiple people
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trying to get her in this. And she's going to drive off in
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a limousine to location for photos.
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So apparently a limo is bigger.
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How are you supposed to sit in this fucking thing without
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smashing it to shit and making it look like trash?
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Why wouldn't you get in this on set?
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Like on set. Yeah, at the location it's a
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little weird little. They don't show her in the dress
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her bra and underwear just for this scene to get a reaction.
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That makes sense. There's no fucking way they put
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her in that dress there and then put her in a car and then
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took her to location. They never even show us her in
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These these fucking fakers. If you can't believe the
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producers of Sister Wives, who Can you believe?
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This is a significant farce, Kody.
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To use your own words, Significant.
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Kody's such a significant farce. You bastard.
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Oh God, so this is you're right because they're.
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Sorry, no, just had that realization.
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You're right, because they tee up this whole thing of Kody
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talking about how he has to leave the space because the
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model is getting undressed. And Oh my God, we get to hear
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more brilliant takes from Robyn because of course we need Robyn,
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So they're on the couch, and then Robyn starts to fill us in
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on this. Christine first says Kody left
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And then we go to the couch and we get even more gems from Robyn
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to be a gentleman, to be the kind of guy who would turn his
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Disrobes, disrobes. Disrobes.
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I'm like where does she get these random more than one
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syllable words and like why is she using them?
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She's so crazy. This is something that's been
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either like Straight said to her, or she's read somewhere and
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part of her regular vernacular. No, she literally had to puke
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those words out of somewhere other than her own gut because
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Says the man who said fuck in front of my 3 year old tonight.
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And my child proceeded to walk
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around saying it for like 5 minutes straight.
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Fuck. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm
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just going to look at everything
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I'm like, Nah, don't worry about
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Yeah. Luckily, it wasn't long lived.
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I've said worse. It was a little like, oh, of all
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the things I just said, you picked up that.
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It's because it's Uncle Chris saying it, not Mommy.
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Because I say it probably too often and he just thinks you're
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so cool he wants to repeat it when you say it.
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Oh honey, you're so flattering.
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Leave it to the Funko. The phone uncle.
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Yeah, or the Gunko. The gay uncle?
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Yeah. And the Funko could also be the
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faggot uncle. Oh, it works.
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I like either one. Kody tells us that his kids pick
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It's like we know Kody. We know.
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They tased me for my modesty beliefs.
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Yeah, well, the way he says it is so dumb too.
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Like. And they say it right after each
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beliefs disRobyng. DisRobyng.
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And then he's such a gentleman. Like, does someone really think
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Kody Brown is a gentleman? OK.
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Kody also tells us that the model is being taken to Lake Las
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the shoot. They just simply couldn't, which
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She's not going to go sit in a
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limo in that dress. That'd be like me.
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I can't even think of anything
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It's silly. They're obviously teeing this up
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for a reaction from the family
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modest. The family Christine confirms
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with us that Mckelty did like the experience she did.
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And I was like, duh. But also now that I'm thinking
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it was all set up, I guess even if he she didn't know then it
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would be fine. I mean, she did seem to be
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enjoying herself. She's paying attention.
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She was engaged. So I guess, you know, that's
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probably a lot from a Kelty. Yeah, I'm sure she didn't know
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that they set her dad up for some of the scenes and her mom
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up for some of the scenes, but
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setup to get her there. I don't know, like, in what
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world your mom would be like a
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daughter wants to be a fashion
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I'm going to go and call around and I'm going to see if
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anyone's doing some sort of fashion things.
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Or there was like, an associate producer of the show that's
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like, we've got to set something
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And it's like, OK, Jennifer Henry, if we're wrong.
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And there is a photograph of this beautiful young woman, this
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model, in this lovely cellophane
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with a limo in the background.
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I'd love to see the footage. I'd love to see the shots.
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It took talent to make the dress.
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Not saying it didn't take talent
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True. I mean, I would fail at it.
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So you know, she succeeded at that.
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I would not fail at it if it was
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Just putting it out there. Got to give Kimber her wins.
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We cut to Christine's house, presumably on another day.
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She's talking at the camera. We get so much, Christine.
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I'm sorry, you guys, we get. This whole episode is her.
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She says that she got 71% on her
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initial failure, which is another failure.
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So she has failed her second test exam after failing her
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initial exam. I just want to say a lot of
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failures when it comes to what
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just because. You know, they're asking her for
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specifics, like what was the score?
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And she's apologizing to her children for not helping while
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she's studying. Yeah, I've been studying a lot,
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she says. She gives us an example of how
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Isabel asked her when she got home from school how she did at
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her practice test. And Christine says I failed at
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my quiz. And Isabel says, well, this just
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means you'll be studying again
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And Christine says nobody wants to fail.
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It means you have to study more.
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Again, Like, yeah, yes it does. No.
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One wants to fail after studying, but the point of being
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Like, if you're good at something and you enjoy doing
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something, you never really truly stop studying it.
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And so the fact that this is such like, homework for you and
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hard for you just goes to show me that this probably isn't for
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you. Not that people don't have to
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study and be like, naturally good at everything they do, but
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there's just something about this that feels like she thinks
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she needs to prove herself to people other than herself.
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And maybe she's not full like, heart in this.
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It's just weird. I'm glad you brought that up
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because I was questioning myself going, You know, Chris, other
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than your innate hatred towards Christine, why is it that you
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are struggling so much with hearing her talk about this?
27:18
I was going to start with bitch, why are you so fucking dumb?
27:22
I, I mean, honestly, if you are studying so much and you
27:26
continue to fail at practice tests and the actual test and
27:29
your kids are saying you're always studying and you're
27:32
making it seem like it's the end of the world, it's like maybe
27:35
this just isn't for you. I defaulted to Christine's a
27:39
moron, but I might have been wrong.
27:41
Maybe it's just not a good alignment because like you said,
27:48
stuff that you're passionate about the learning process and
27:54
fighting against 100%. There might be times of
27:57
frustration where you're like, why can't I get this?
28:00
Or like, oh, I'm disappointed in myself.
28:01
But there's there's something about it that makes you want to
28:04
keep trying and gives you like a passion and she doesn't have
28:07
it, clearly. She doesn't have it, and the
28:10
only reason that she keeps on going is because she feels that
28:13
she needs to do this for the family for monetary reasons,
28:19
basically, yeah. She tells us that later.
28:23
If you're not even good at this to begin with, then how are you
28:26
going to make money doing it? I don't know.
28:28
The whole thing is just not adding up and it makes me feel
28:35
it'll get her maybe some positive attention or some
28:39
feedback from the family and she thinks since she put her mind to
28:44
It reminds me of like a child that decides they want to
28:48
practice the cello and it's maybe their 6th grade year and
28:52
you get to choose between all these instruments.
28:55
You pick the cello and you're dead set on the cello and you
28:59
hate it and you're not being honest with yourself or your
29:02
parents because you said you'd
29:07
situation and it feels childlike, like a lot of her
29:11
stuff does to me, feels very childlike.
29:13
Yeah, like you pick the instrument in 6th grade and then
29:15
by 8th grade you're like, I fucking hate this.
29:17
And you're in band going. Or maybe if she's an orchestra,
29:20
she's looking at another person playing an instrument going,
29:22
oh, I wish I was playing that.
29:25
times, I mean, at least my parents would have been like,
29:27
well, this is what you're doing and you chose it and whatever.
29:28
And it's like, that's terrible.
29:29
Like give them a chance to change if they want.
29:32
Yeah, I think that there's a happy medium between giving
29:34
stuff a fair shot and getting past the hump of I'm just not
29:40
good at this to the point where you're like, no, I'm really not
29:44
into this. My mom was obsessed with the
29:47
idea of me learning the piano and I hated it.
29:51
I took piano lessons from the time I was six years old until I
30:02
I asked my mom repeatedly if I could play the guitar and I was
30:05
like, all I want is to play the guitar.
30:07
And she's like, if you practice piano more, I'll get you guitar
30:10
lessons. That never happened and I
30:13
fucking hated the piano. And my mom has told me in my
30:17
adult life now, I wished that I had done the piano when I was
30:21
younger. And I'm not going to lie,
30:24
there's a big part of me now that wishes I would have taken
30:30
commitment on my parents behalf when they didn't have the money
30:33
for it and I took it for granted.
30:35
But I wish that they would have just let me quit and do what I
30:45
her own dreams. She doesn't really know what she
31:03
she's unsure of. It's it's kind of sad to me.
31:07
And This is why I actually like Christine a lot, because I just
31:11
think there's this true innocence and naivete about her
31:14
and I just want to see her succeed so bad.
31:18
I don't know. Also with the Janelle choosing
31:27
assuming was an initial push from Kody of pressure for the
31:31
monetary things, right. Like, you have to, we have to
31:33
make money, we have to make money, we have to make money.
31:36
And it's like it sucks when we all have that.
31:39
Well, most of us have that in life where we have to do things
31:43
that we don't aren't passionate about, we don't care about just
31:45
to make ends meet or to pay for things.
31:47
And that pressure sucks. I feel like that's a pretty
31:52
universal experience. Very universal.
31:53
I know it's like a little bit of a tangent, but I hope that
31:56
people can relate to it because I think from a young age, we
32:00
feel this pressure to succeed in things that we don't really care
32:08
impress other people. And it's unfortunate.
32:10
And if there's one lesson that I hope to teach my kids from a
32:15
young age is that do things that you're passionate about.
32:18
Don't do them because you think it's going to make, you know, me
32:24
Like do what makes you truly happy.
32:26
And these women have never been given that chance.
32:29
And here she is still trying to do something for this family
32:33
that's falling apart. And she even says, like, we
32:36
moved the family with all these promises, all these promises of
32:40
staying together, and that's not happening.
32:43
And I just need another success. And when she says I need another
32:54
a little bit bigger or something like that.
32:58
And I was like, yeah, God, she needs another success.
33:01
Her heart's in the right place doing all of this, but it's not
33:05
in the right place for her. And I think that is something
33:08
that I learned through her book is she's, you know, now in a
33:12
place in her life where she's doing things for herself.
33:15
So that makes me happy to know that she's at a place like that
33:19
finally. But it's sad to see her striving
33:25
about. But then she's taking her child
33:27
to do something that she's passionate about.
33:29
So it's like, yeah, there is this huge juxtaposition between
33:33
her taking her child to pursue her dreams and then her trying
33:43
Oh gosh, it's Christina. Tragedy.
33:45
When she was wrapping up this segment, she was talking about,
33:48
you know, needing the other success, but how the kids hate
34:00
happening with her personally while she's also dealing with
34:04
recognizing that the family is falling apart.
34:07
And while it's been peppered in throughout the show, at this
34:11
point, the last couple episodes, we've been hearing this.
34:14
And this is the thing about this show that's so weird.
34:18
It's like they say these things, we know these things, these are
34:21
real things, blah, blah, blah. But then it's like, bump it up,
34:24
bump, bump on to the next scene.
34:26
And it's like you just said, your family is falling apart,
34:29
your relationships are dwindling
34:31
that your kids hate their lives right now because of their
34:34
living situation. And then we're about to get
34:36
whiplash. And then, Yep, now we're going
34:37
to get whiplash and go to Robyn's house.
34:39
It's like, oh God, And then we're going to be launching my
34:44
sister last class. Thank you.
34:54
I couldn't go for that high note, you know, it would have
34:56
killed me. We're at Robyn's house,
34:58
everybody. Yeah, unfortunately.
35:00
And the web designer is coming
35:03
website for my sister wife's closet.
35:06
We've all been just eager with
35:10
this. Now we do get a couple updates
35:13
including the actual launch of
35:17
of the jewelry which we will get
35:19
Janelle tells us that my sister wife's closet was a fraction of
35:22
the cost of the gym. You know, she's reminding us of
35:25
this journey they went on, but
35:28
hers. Which, you know, we know she
35:32
didn't get her dream. Just like Christine's not
35:34
getting her dream. There's a lot of dreams not
35:36
happening here except for Robyn's dream.
35:38
Imagine that Robyn gets her dream come true.
35:41
Because it had a low start up cost, Christopher.
35:45
And her, her drawings, her doodles were just so
35:48
inspirational. The web designer's over, they're
35:51
sitting around a table, there's a landing page, and then they
35:53
launch the site and they show,
35:57
footage of the I. It's so funny because I have a
36:00
bit of PTSD about the, like, footage of the Google Analytics
36:05
live tracking and like the way
36:08
page and how there was the number of live visitors.
36:11
And it's like 228-220-9232 and
36:17
site, which, you know, we were, you know, kind of chuckling at
36:22
because it's like they're kind
36:25
like thousands of people knocking at the door.
36:27
And it's like the footage they
36:31
Yeah, I want to say it didn't get over 300, but.
36:34
At certain points, 300 people are listening to this podcast at
36:37
one time and you only see me dancing in the streets.
36:39
I'm not like filming it, you know?
36:42
I mean, you ask other people to film it, but.
36:45
Dancing in the street. And of course, Robyn, you know,
36:50
she's so smart. All these people are there and
36:53
it's like, we're just standing
36:56
And I'm like, why are you saying
36:58
there naked? Like oh God, her correlations
37:02
are just idiotic. Meri is like a whole bunch of
37:05
people are looking, but nobody's
37:07
There's no purchases. Yet yeah, no ones buying
37:10
anything. We do get a little footage of
37:13
Meri on her phone, Christine on her phone.
37:15
It's like everyone's on their devices now at the time.
37:18
Of course there's no mobile responsive website like I'm sure
37:22
because they all live. They're like keyboard flip
37:25
phone, like the, you know, phones that move up and down.
37:28
They've got them sideways. Like they're probably looking at
37:30
the desktop version of a website
37:32
out what's going on. And Meri's on her phone.
37:35
And as you said, no one's buying
37:38
No, and Kody has to remind us this would be devastating
37:42
financially. It would be an emotional set
37:44
back is one thing, but a financial set back is another.
37:49
And Meri's on her phone and she says people are saying they'd
37:52
like to buy something without mortgaging their home.
37:57
So I'm imagining that she's on
37:59
You know, she's on social media somewhere getting some live
38:02
feedback from people who are visiting the site and going, I
38:06
can't afford this shit. One of them is what about real
38:09
moms wanting to buy without mortgaging your house?
38:12
And they kind of laugh and chuckle at it.
38:15
And it's like, this is fucking
38:17
afford your own home. And like, now you're getting
38:21
this comment about your jewelry being expensive.
38:24
And then, Oh my God, Kody. Kody's comments says.
38:30
In my head, I wanted our pieces to be somewhat iconic.
38:34
Oh, iconic. All right, Madonna.
38:38
Do you think you are Madonna? You dumb bitch.
38:41
Like no no no, there's no iconic
38:46
of a TLC reality show and you're
38:49
And wait till you see this trash.
38:51
Oh God, they show examples of the jewelry and they are
38:55
hideous. And Robyn says they are not
38:57
cheap. They are sterling silver.
39:00
That's the thing, That's the thing.
39:02
They're sterling silver, that's the thing.
39:05
And it's like, what are you trying to say?
39:07
They. Sell sterling silver in gas
39:09
stations. You're dumb.
39:10
Oh. God, I'm like, I feel like you
39:13
can buy. I, I, I, I don't know, but I
39:16
think when I was in 10th grade, I bought my girlfriend a
39:19
sterling silver ring from Kmart for like $15 and gave it to her
39:25
and was like, you know, whatever.
39:26
And I was like, is it real silver?
39:28
And the person behind the counter working at Kmart was
39:31
like, yes. Sterling darling, Sterling.
39:34
It was definitely a lot nicer than this my sister wife's
39:37
closet crap. Yeah, my high school boyfriend
39:40
brought me a sterling silver with turquoise pendant at one
39:45
point. No chain this is.
39:50
So funny, but we're talking about high school experiences.
39:53
These are fucking grown ass adults with children and all the
39:55
things. Well they show us like this 5 LB
39:58
charm of an S and AW that literally looks like a drawing
40:04
ripped out of my 9th grade notebook.
40:06
Yeah, it reminded me of like a
40:10
It was a cartoon. From cartoons and made an
40:13
southwest out of it and then with.
40:17
Sharp edges for I don't know. To hurt yourself, but worry.
40:23
Yourself after you spend all this money on their jewelry and
40:26
regret it like. And the charm thing, the charm
40:30
was like it reminded me of when someone has like a jumbo key
40:34
chain and it has the big ass circle and there was like all
40:37
these charms, it looked like it weighed 25 lbs.
40:40
I'm like where would what would you even do with this?
40:42
In the original sketches, when
40:46
and you're like, well, let's give her some slack.
40:48
Like I'm sure it's not going to look like the yeah yeah bitch I
40:52
was. Having a fever?
40:53
Dream like I'm sure it's not going to look exactly like and
40:57
but we both said we were like who the fuck wants an southwest
41:00
right on a necklace? Unless you're like initials are
41:05
southwest, what the fuck. Very strange.
41:10
The only reason you would want
41:12
specifically is if Southwest was
41:15
to you. And who's that?
41:17
We learned that they did 28 orders on that first day. 28
41:22
orders. 28 orders. While this is going on, I did a
41:26
couple things caught my eye other than Robyn's fabulously
41:30
designed jewelry. 1 is that Meri
41:35
that is nuclear green. And I think when I said, Oh my
41:39
God, the shirt's nuclear green, you said another thing.
41:41
Chartreuse. Chartreuse, Yes.
41:43
It was like a muted version of
41:48
ago, whatever that was. Yeah.
41:50
My hair color from our brat summer.
41:53
Oh God. Oh I forgot about that.
41:57
Must have been a trauma response.
41:59
God. And so she's wearing this like
42:01
hideous long sleeve shirt that
42:06
is white, pretending to maybe not be white.
42:08
So it might have maybe worked,
42:10
She probably thought it made her
42:13
She's like, it really brings up to Tanner and it's like, oh,
42:16
honey, no, no, no, no, no. And with over that nuclear green
42:20
shirt was this black spaghetti
42:25
And in front of her was stemware
42:30
And there was in front of Kody
42:31
And I'm going, we're drinking orange juice out of stemware at
42:35
our website launch while wearing
42:39
ugliest jewelry you've ever seen.
42:41
Like what is this? I don't understand a lot of the
42:46
choices. Yeah.
42:47
And This is why I don't believe that there's not any drinking
42:52
going on. Like do you think who would do?
42:54
This over. Well, also, but like, do you
42:56
think they were like, well, let's make little mimosas for
42:59
ourselves while we do this? And like, perhaps they were
43:03
having actual mimosas and they
43:07
we're just having like, basically a little fancy soda
43:11
here or something. Like, it didn't look bubbly at
43:14
all. But I also don't know.
43:18
It just seems so bizarre. Janelle says, you know, we've
43:22
got big homes for this business and I didn't understand what
43:27
the fuck that was supposed to mean.
43:28
I think she means like, we've got like a lot of money sunk
43:32
into this and now we've got these big homes to pay for with
43:35
this business. But she goes.
43:37
We've got big homes for this business.
43:39
Oh God, I missed that. And why did they even pull that
43:43
as a sound bite? It's so dumb.
43:45
Puddle Monkey. They're just terrible. 28 orders
43:52
launch day with obvious promotion because Meri's like on
43:59
this and promoting this. They launch and a launch day
44:02
where you have multiple people
44:05
Hawking their fucking nasty ass jewelry should be a peak, not a
44:10
valley like the first day should
44:14
have to have this as a goal to
44:15
Like somehow we're going to get there.
44:17
And it was 28 orders. That should be the most sales.
44:21
Like, oh God, I'm not kidding you when I say this jewelry was
44:25
ugly as sin. Like it's ugly and it's the
44:28
dumbest thing and whoever hyped her up about the Southwest and
44:34
the whole sister wife's thing as
44:41
Like we said before, how many fucking people are sister wives
44:45
in the real world and how many
44:48
wives can afford this shit? Right.
44:51
Yeah, people with two incomes and without a million children
44:54
can't afford it, let alone someone who's like, stealing
44:57
government benefits and has like, a horde of groceries in
45:00
their basement. Strange.
45:02
Unbelievable, completely unbelievable that they even
45:05
thought that this was, I don't
45:09
This is like the dumbest thing
45:12
I don't know. We get to Christines house yet
45:16
again for the 400 thousandth time this episode.
45:19
This is Christine episode. And she is leaving for the real
45:25
estate exam. She is walking out of that
45:28
house, head held high, going to take the real estate exam.
45:32
Oh yes. The rest of the family is
45:35
patiently, quietly waiting at a park for the results of set
45:43
exam. Well, when Christine's leaving,
45:44
there is a funny clip with like Kody saying goodbye to her.
45:47
She's walking out the house and he says, I don't remember
45:50
everything he said, but one of
45:52
a good day or something. And it was like totally a thing
45:55
you say to fuck. It was so mindless.
45:58
Like I'm like, dude, are you even aware of what she's doing
46:00
and where she's going? He's probably thinking about
46:03
either Robyn or how he might have to be somewhat responsible
46:06
for his own children while Christine is doing this, and
46:09
probably not even all of them.
46:12
and it was it was just filmed as
46:16
similar or like thereof. Totally could be a pickup.
46:19
Interesting. Because it was really bizarre.
46:22
And if it was a situation where she was actually leaving to do
46:25
the exam, it'd be like give her a hug, a kiss on the cheek and
46:28
say good luck, you've got this.
46:30
Got this girl? Yeah.
46:32
You're strong. You're a Kelly Clarkson song.
46:34
You've got this. It's David.
46:36
Christine so tall a lie. Oh God.
46:39
OK. Oh, jeez, yeah.
46:41
Christine gives us some voice overs, then while we're watching
46:49
about how they've isolated as a family.
46:52
They've isolated, isolated. It feels like we've failed even
46:56
if it's not permanent. And I'm like, even if it's not
47:01
failing. Once again.
47:02
On the theme of failing, she says it feels like we're living
47:06
separate lives and we don't need each other anymore.
47:09
Yeah, it's kind of sad. She's like, I wanted to have
47:13
these ladies to help raise my kids.
47:15
I'm doing it alone. And gosh, I feel like I'm
47:20
failing at that. She's failing at being a single
47:22
mom. Well, when you didn't plan on
47:25
it, it's. And you pop six of them out of
47:28
Then you got to raise them by yourself when your husband's
47:31
with another wife and no one's checking in on you.
47:34
And we were just talking about this with Meri last episode.
47:38
You said, why isn't Meri checking in on people?
47:41
Meri's nowhere to be seen, nowhere to be found.
47:43
Why isn't she like, hey, Christine, I know you're
47:45
studying for that exam. Do you need a couple hours
47:48
tonight? I can come over and you can even
47:52
Yeah. Or drop the kids.
47:54
Off here, whatever. Study in front of Janelle's fish
47:59
I could help you because she's going to the gym at 4:45 in the
48:02
morning and then her kids go to school and what else is she
48:05
doing? I mean, honestly, these people,
48:06
what are they doing with all of their time?
48:08
But that's what makes me sad for her, her again, because she's
48:12
like, I went into this thinking that these ladies were here to
48:17
And gosh darn it, I feel like I'm failing at it.
48:20
And you know, that's such a horrible feeling to go into a
48:24
marriage or a relationship in general, thinking you have a
48:27
partner and then feeling like your partner's not there for
48:30
you, much less you go into a marriage with two other wives.
48:39
And then you've brought in even another one that you were
48:42
supposed to be OK with. You were supposed to be a
48:45
welcoming and all of that with Robyn.
48:46
Yeah. Where's Robyn?
48:47
Who's she helping? No, she had this big kumbaya
48:51
moment with Robyn. At that cafe restaurant thing.
48:58
Yeah, that came and went. We hear down the Grapevine,
49:03
like, externally, that it's because Robyn was talking about
49:08
it to Kody and lying. But like, they don't address
49:11
that on the show. So if you're a viewer watching
49:22
Like she feels alone. What?
49:24
And when I watched this show, however many years ago, and I I
49:28
didn't see this show when it was originally airing, but I did
49:33
And as a casual viewer, it's like I wasn't putting these
49:37
pieces together and I wasn't, you know, going where is
49:41
everybody? What is everybody doing?
49:43
Because these statements, they, I don't know if it's just
49:45
through editing. I don't get it.
49:46
But there's these big dramatic statements about how she is
49:49
failing at raising her kids on her own.
49:52
She is separating from her sister wives.
49:54
Their family is disintegrating. And it's like, these are big
49:59
things and it's just treated so haphazardly.
50:02
It's very bizarre. Yeah, she's talking about
50:05
postpartum in other seasons and that's never even addressed
50:10
either. And I think truly is 3 now, but
50:14
you're technically postpartum hormonally and physically for
50:18
like 2 years after having a baby and they're not being supportive
50:27
Saul, but people should be extra supportive of the moms with the
50:32
youngest. And it's just not happening.
50:34
And I think that part of the issue here is obviously Kody
50:39
pitting them against each other and lying, but that there was
50:45
never this camaraderie from the get go and that each of them was
50:53
already failing. Based on a made-up religious
50:56
cult blah blah blah. Like it's all a House of Cards.
51:01
Because even if like me and my
51:03
best friend joined a commune together that was like this, I
51:09
wouldn't be able to distance myself from her after she had a
51:12
baby. I'd be like, right, what do you
51:14
need? Or But now there's this like
51:17
feeling of our kids are actually
51:22
connections not happening. I I find it so sad and tragic
51:27
and it just goes to show to me
51:32
like this whole thing was forced
51:35
And the, the, the examples that they point to, even culturally
51:39
in the AUB or these other cults,
51:43
they show are women that don't speak up, You know, they keep
51:48
sweet, they're just supposed to fall in line.
51:50
The husband does whatever and they're whatever.
51:51
So these aren't healthy relationships overall, like just
51:55
intrinsically. No, they're competitive.
51:57
It's like pitting women against each other, like which one of
52:00
you can get my attention and make me happy and keep me
52:05
around? And it's the opposite of what
52:08
you would think, where it's like
52:11
supporting other women and instead it's pitting women
52:14
against each other for one man.
52:17
It's. Nasty.
52:18
It's the whole thing's nasty, I mean.
52:20
Colleen with AK tried to give us some insight and she was just a
52:24
little rough around the edges. We do meet her again later in
52:26
the show, so we will be reintroduced to Colleen.
52:29
We'll learn more about her. Maybe she'll have a little bit
52:37
was a little a little rugged. I doubt it, but I am excited to
52:41
see how the hair has progressed.
52:42
Oh yes, yes, Kody says we're taking the kids to the park to
52:47
hang out while Christine takes
52:50
And I have to laugh because in
52:54
examples of failed instead of failed because of their Utah
52:59
access failed. So he's like every time they
53:01
talk about failed, failed, failed, it's like filled.
53:04
It's not. Do you think she failed?
53:05
Do you think she failed? Do you think she failed?
53:07
It's like, Oh my God, they show them briefly at the park.
53:11
What do you call that thing that
53:13
A pergola. This is I wrote down pergola.
53:15
No. Did I write down pergola?
53:17
I wrote down gazebo because I thought a pergola had slats on
53:21
the top. You're probably right.
53:22
It's like, you know, it's like a
53:26
It's like there's a roof and posts that are holding it up.
53:30
People hate us. Really.
53:31
People do hate us 'cause there's
53:33
yelling at Eskimo Brothers. Shout out to my friend Kody,
53:37
who's like, I was yelling Eskimo
53:41
Damn. My gosh, it's so funny.
53:43
And it's true. I mean like, I don't know what
53:44
it's called. What I have to say to Kody, we
53:47
can't all be Eskimo brothers. So the fact that you know that
53:49
term, darlin, what do you have
53:52
I want to hear that story. Tell us that story, please.
53:57
I'll share that story after we're done recording.
53:59
Wink, wink. Nod.
54:01
Can't wait. Kody, don't hate me.
54:05
Oh, Kody. Anyway, we're under the gondola.
54:10
So they're under the gondola, yes, they're under the pergola
54:15
that's solid roofed and they're just doing whatever, setting up
54:18
food, blah, blah, blah. Fill in time, fill in space.
54:21
Some people said some things, I didn't care.
54:23
About Kody says her energy is kind of low, referencing
54:26
Christine. Like oh, did he talk to her on
54:28
the phone? Did he get a text?
54:30
Her energy is kind of low, so I don't know.
54:32
And then Janelle's like, I'm just, I she was just was really
54:35
prepared this time. I know she was really prepared.
54:38
And Robyn's like, well, I'm nervous now.
54:41
And they're just kind of all going back and forth about their
54:44
themselves. Their feelings about Christine's
54:46
feelings. Oh my gosh.
54:48
And then Christine walks up from
54:56
tow and a wagon that's full of
55:02
And who was the boy that was there helping?
55:04
That's like truly is protector
55:09
helping her come and then Mckelty was also with her.
55:14
And I'm just thinking to myself,
55:18
with her test results and they
55:23
her. Like where was truly?
55:25
Why is she bringing a literal wagon full of whatever was in
55:29
there if it was food or supplies
55:32
And you were totally right that she at least brought Truly,
55:35
because Kody says like hey, true
55:38
Yeah, come on over here like some bridged.
55:40
Version of her name and it's like so truly wasn't there.
55:43
So it's probably not even the same day.
55:45
I this is it. Like there probably are elements
55:48
of this episode that are either reshot or didn't happen in the
55:50
same order or whatever and fuck that.
55:53
I feel like Mckel T was probably
55:56
then Hunter was texting Mckel T like we're here and then
56:00
Hunter came to help get everything and bring him back.
56:04
And it's just so lame. It's.
56:06
Disjointed and dumb, and you set
56:12
Did you fail? Did you fail?
56:15
Did you fail? I fail.
56:16
But, and it's like other reality
56:19
things without us being distracted.
56:20
It's like they think we as viewers are idiots and we're not
56:29
Like it's dumb. I want to know what is truly
56:33
going on, but truly going on with the trulys.
56:37
What's truly going on behind the scenes.
56:39
Because you've got Meri that's 10 shades darker in the face
56:43
than the body. You've got these setup scenes
56:48
that are haphazard. You've got fed lines to the
56:54
kids. It's the start of reality TV in
56:58
this era, but it's also past the start enough and we're into
57:04
the fifth season, so it's just a little confusing that it's so
57:12
haphazard. It's almost like I get the vibe
57:15
from Kody in this scene that he showed up, he had a time, he had
57:20
And it's almost like they're half assing it.
57:23
So like the production company, they're half assing it because
57:26
they fucking suck. But then why are you as the star
57:30
of the show, as lead talent, particularly the adults?
57:33
Why aren't you walking up with
57:34
What? What is going on here?
57:35
Like why are you? Like why aren't you going to
57:37
help her? Haphazardly participating in
57:39
your own television show, it's
57:42
And then all of a sudden, out of
57:44
goes. I passed.
57:50
No, I'm. Telling you it's that crazy that
57:55
all of a sudden she just says that like it's like a
57:57
conversation like we're having
58:00
I passed, yeah. Kody's like what happened is she
58:02
goes, I passed. And then they're eating burritos
58:05
or tacos or Taco salads or something.
58:07
I don't even know. I'm like, you just set up this
58:10
entire episode to lead up to this moment, and then that's how
58:14
you have her announce it just as
58:18
there. It's like.
58:20
Very weird. The rain in Spain falls mainly
58:23
on the plain. I don't even.
58:25
Know it's hard to even comment
58:28
going on? Like these people, even the way
58:31
they were talking about it, they
58:34
was totally a pickup. This was something because, you
58:37
know, when Janelle's talking about it, she's like, I don't
58:39
know, I feel like yeah, she probably, she tried really hard
58:41
and whatever. And Robyn's like, they're just
58:45
talking yeah, like they're just like talking like not even in
58:47
the same. There's that whatever vibe that
58:51
happens when you actually are anticipatory, right?
58:53
If someone's coming with some news, you're like, Oh my gosh,
58:56
like what's it going to be? And that was completely missing.
58:58
The kids were like bored, like
59:02
She's showing up with her child after waiting for these
59:05
results. And that's why I'm saying it's
59:13
rain. It's rainfall mainly on the
59:15
plane. Like she'd like, they asked her
59:16
to say this like 500 times. They're probably like.
59:18
Could you tell us you passed again?
59:20
I passed and then they chose that as the clip.
59:25
That's the best thing, yes. That's why I'm like dying about
59:29
it. Like, Oh my God, Eliza, do a
59:32
little much, but we get to the couch with the adults.
59:37
So then this transition also backs up our suspicions here
59:41
that she says I passed. There's a few cutaway shots to
59:48
even anything happening. It's like she said I passed and
59:50
then it was like, that's that.
59:52
wrap up the episode. We get a moment alone with
59:56
Christine speaking to the camera, solo interview and
1:00:00
Christine. Is talking about how she has
1:00:03
been thinking of this moment and
1:00:07
home and getting that check and thinking what debt can I pay
1:00:12
off first with this check and asking the family what debt
1:00:16
needs to be paid off first with my first big check.
1:00:21
And she says that to the camera.
1:00:23
And then they go to the family on the couch, the adults on the
1:00:28
couch, And we've got Robyn. No, I'm not going to go.
1:00:33
And we've got Christine, and we've got Meri, and we've got
1:00:39
Janelle and we've got Kody. And Christine is reminiscing and
1:00:54
Well, she starts out by saying that she was thinking about life
1:01:03
alone so the kids have to pick up the slack.
1:01:06
I feel like we are feeling as a family to translate that, she
1:01:11
says. I feel like we're failing as a
1:01:18
We're not a support system, and that's frightening.
1:01:22
Frightening. It's really sad too, she says.
1:01:29
I didn't have the support from my sister Waves.
1:01:33
I feel like we're failing as a family right now.
1:01:37
Sorry. We haven't gotten together a lot
1:01:43
finally coming to terms and like saying how she feels and outing
1:01:50
the reality and nobody knows what to say.
1:01:54
Except for Meri comes in, which is.
1:01:57
Bullshit. I wouldn't go so far as to call
1:01:59
us a failure. We need to continue working on
1:02:04
towards things that we want. It's like like a wet bar.
1:02:07
Like a wet bar, Like Meri, where are you?
1:02:09
What are you working on? This is up until this point I've
1:02:19
Talking to strangers on the Internet?
1:02:21
Oh, well, we just need to keep working towards what we want.
1:02:26
And Christine's trying to drop these hard truths and no one is
1:02:30
willing to hear them. And you've got Kody's eyes
1:02:34
rolling so far back in his head that I don't think they're ever
1:02:38
going to come back from hell. No God.
1:02:40
And she goes, I wanted to pass for the money.
1:02:43
I wanted to be sure that we could afford these houses and be
1:02:49
And that's just so sad. Like what we're saying earlier,
1:02:53
it's not about her passion for wanting to do this.
1:02:56
It's not that she's enjoying it. She's not studying it and
1:03:00
learning it easily because she doesn't give a fuck about it.
1:03:03
She's doing it for the money and it's very hard to learn about
1:03:07
something when you don't care about it.
1:03:09
Right. And also to almost like catch up
1:03:15
Like they've made these choices, they're buying these homes,
1:03:18
they're doing this stuff. And she feels the pressure to
1:03:21
not only make this happen in the future, but to like, we've
1:03:24
already started this and I have to catch up.
1:03:27
Like I've got to make this happen and fuck that unnecessary
1:03:33
herself as like a side character for so long and now she's
1:03:38
getting like that main character energy and nobody knows how to
1:03:46
interview that are hard hitting and no one knows what to say.
1:03:52
I think they're shocked that she's coming.
1:03:54
Maybe she's had a cider before the interview.
1:03:56
Yes, she even says she goes. I wanted more than a husband.
1:04:01
That's why I chose this life. And then Kody's got these shifty
1:04:12
No. God, not his fat chin.
1:04:14
It's like a restating of her tagline from the show.
1:04:18
I wanted Sister wives more than a husband.
1:04:22
I needed the support and that's why I chose this life.
1:04:25
I don't want to raise these kids
1:04:28
It's been 2 years of me doing that.
1:04:30
She says I don't reach out and
1:04:35
either. That's not what I signed up for.
1:04:38
And now we realize why she's so red nosed.
1:04:42
From the cider. She's angry from her anger.
1:04:45
She's got the cider in her and
1:04:49
she's worked up and she's a pale
1:04:56
the nose and we're mad and she's
1:05:00
I applaud her for the truth bombs that she's dropped this
1:05:04
entire episode and nobody had anything to say.
1:05:10
And you can tell Janelle is soaking it in.
1:05:13
They show Janelle looking at her
1:05:16
Janelle is legitimately the only one not worried about covering
1:05:21
their tracks and their ass. Being defensive.
1:05:23
And she's the only one that's,
1:05:27
is. Kody's got his eyes rolling back
1:05:30
in his head, and he's shifting
1:05:33
really quickly, OK? Like, he does this weird thing
1:05:36
where he's looks back and forth really fast because he's trying
1:05:39
to see and gauge who's realizing
1:05:42
to have to spin next. And then Robyn's like
1:05:48
comprehending it still. She's like 10 paces at least
1:05:51
back, probably 1000 paces. And then Meri's trying to defend
1:05:56
and cover up because she's doing
1:06:00
back. It's like you can see it on
1:06:02
their faces that they don't know
1:06:05
they're all hiding something. Absolutely.
1:06:08
I mean no one has anything to say.
1:06:10
According to this edit, they don't show anybody saying
1:06:13
anything except for Meri, who basically has a defensive.
1:06:18
Pretends to defend. It austerity, right?
1:06:20
Like, well, I don't think that
1:06:22
Superficially. What do you mean you don't think
1:06:24
we're failing? Like, Oh my God, you're clearly
1:06:27
failing. We.
1:06:27
Just need to keep working towards the things that we want.
1:06:29
Yeah, right. Like anybody could fucking say
1:06:32
that. Oh my God.
1:06:33
Anybody could come off the street and feed the.
1:06:35
Stranger that knows nothing. Yeah, absolutely.
1:06:38
I feel like it's quite dramatic,
1:06:43
I don't know how to describe it,
1:06:47
I'm going like, is it really all
1:06:49
But it doesn't go anywhere. This is it.
1:06:51
There's no resolve. There's no like next steps.
1:06:52
There's no nothing like that was
1:06:54
Because they leave and go their separate ways again.
1:06:57
Right, so now the episode's going to wrap, and we as viewers
1:07:00
are going to go about our lives until next week when we come
1:07:03
back and they're on their next
1:07:05
And in their lives, it's the same thing.
1:07:09
Christine talks about that in her book.
1:07:10
They come together for these couch moments.
1:07:11
And that was like the closest thing they had to real
1:07:14
conversations, which is on a set
1:07:18
therapy. And then?
1:07:19
You leave producers and then you next time you see each other is
1:07:24
when you're going to film something and there's a crew
1:07:27
there. I think this episode really
1:07:30
portrays one person screaming out for help and everyone else
1:07:41
And it's funny because now in reality TV nowadays, nobody be
1:07:50
for the drama, for the. Show yeah, the producers would
1:07:57
That's why it's so you like, it's so cool doing this rewatch
1:08:01
to me because it's like mind blowing how much reality TV has
1:08:05
changed. It's mind blowing that this is a
1:08:14
different situation. And we're seeing it fall apart
1:08:22
pretend to fight for it. And I didn't get that at the
1:08:26
time when I was catching episodes here and there.
1:08:29
Right? Yeah, absolutely.
1:08:30
And now I'm like, this is so blatant and in front of
1:08:34
everyone's faces. Like how could you not see the
1:08:39
And also, there's an element of where they started being cult
1:08:45
members. I'm saying started as a family.
1:08:48
Yeah, and where they broke off?
1:08:50
Right, So they're they're fundamentals as fundamentalists
1:08:53
like they literally were living a life that had a lot of
1:08:58
denials walls up, we don't address things, passive
1:09:02
aggressive behaviors, etcetera.
1:09:04
So that was like how they were underlying started and
1:09:07
Christine, you know, as they reference in becoming sister
1:09:12
wives, you know, she was the she saved their bacon, according to
1:09:16
Kody, like she probably brought a brevity.
1:09:19
She. Was she was lighthearted and she
1:09:25
then and and that worked for them in a way where they kind of
1:09:32
And then when Robyn joined, it was at the same time as they
1:09:35
were started filming a show and it just, I just feel like they
1:09:46
And I think she was naive. I think she was raised in a
1:09:52
polygamy situation that wasn't abusive.
1:09:54
And so she had these rose colored glasses on and then, you
1:10:03
She has these other sister wife come in and slowly like her rose
1:10:15
anymore. She's learning who she is as an
1:10:17
individual. She's learning that she has
1:10:19
autonomy as a woman. And I'm seeing her changing in
1:10:31
her in this episode very, very heavily, and the keep sweet
1:10:36
thing is just falling apart for her.
1:10:41
Yeah. And it's fascinating.
1:10:44
It's morbidly fascinating. Morbidly, Like I'm morbidly
1:10:49
obese. Not to detract, but I just had a
1:10:56
Meri has been tossing around
1:10:59
this like teasing people about
1:11:01
But she's very merry, right? Like this?
1:11:05
A. Decade, Like what the fuck, Meri
1:11:08
Meri, if you're writing a book, I have a working title for you,
1:11:12
Not keeping sweet or no longer
1:11:16
So Christine, if you're going to
1:11:18
y'all cult members are going to be writing a book, something
1:11:20
about not keeping sweet, No longer keeping sweet, I won't
1:11:23
keep sweet. That's the title of your book.
1:11:26
I want to hear Janelle's story, and I know that Christine's
1:11:30
been encouraging Janelle to write a book.
1:11:32
I want to hear Janelle's story
1:11:36
that was so different and she was convinced of this life.
1:11:41
And for a while on the show, I
1:11:45
that was like still convinced of
1:11:48
And then she's like wavered and I, I'm very curious about her
1:11:56
story. But I think of the OG 3 she's
1:11:58
probably still the one that is
1:12:03
in current seasons which you have not seen.
1:12:06
She doesn't speak I'll of being in polygamy.
1:12:10
But some could argue that she's like the most, and I hate to
1:12:14
say it, abused of the group because she didn't have any
1:12:18
sort of role model for polygamy and didn't come from it.
1:12:22
So she was shocked and manipulated and didn't know how
1:12:26
to act and thought she couldn't speak up and was confused and
1:12:31
thought she was doing the right thing.
1:12:32
Was probably the most scared to leave because she had to prove
1:12:36
everyone wrong in her life. And I think that there is
1:12:41
something in her history before the marriage even happened to
1:12:45
make her get there. Because she says I didn't know I
1:12:49
could speak up. I didn't know I had a voice.
1:12:52
So it makes me think that there's something from her
1:12:54
childhood, from even before that, just in the Mormon
1:12:57
religion or in her family, that made her feel like she didn't
1:13:01
have a voice. Because usually you don't think
1:13:05
you have a voice in this religion because the first wife
1:13:07
is the voice and the husband is the voice above the first wife.
1:13:11
But she didn't come from that,
1:13:16
wife idea hanging over her head.
1:13:18
Does that make sense? Yes, I guess I just.
1:13:22
Something with her dad, you know, her dad, Her dad died when
1:13:28
I can't. Caretaker or can't?
1:13:31
Undertaker. Undertaker for the family.
1:13:33
And then she married Meri's brother and Meri's from a
1:13:36
polygamist family. They just didn't do the polygamy
1:13:40
I, I'm not saying that she, I think that you're right that
1:13:44
she, I would love to hear her story, but I'm saying today I
1:13:47
think she's the one that's probably the least, It doesn't
1:13:53
story. No, I don't think she'd be OK.
1:13:57
Give her 20 years and I want to hear her story.
1:13:59
I don't think she'd be honest yet.
1:14:00
I think she would hide A lot still.
1:14:02
I want to hear like the honest, raw truth.
1:14:05
Like, why did you marry Meri's brother?
1:14:07
Why did you divorce him? Why did you decide that this
1:14:11
life was the one like? And then why did you marry your
1:14:14
ex sister in Like, there's so many things.
1:14:16
If I'm being honest, I think that there's something about
1:14:21
sexuality that happened there in the first marriage.
1:14:24
Whether it's her sexuality or his sexuality, there is some
1:14:28
underlying thing there that nobody probably still knows
1:14:31
about to this day. But I think that there's a lot
1:14:38
could learn a lot from it. I think she's a compelling
1:14:42
person that she's kind of kept clammed up and kind of she's
1:14:46
spoken out here and there and she portrayed herself as the
1:14:50
strong one that made a lot of money, that handled the
1:14:53
finances. And then I think slowly that
1:14:57
idea crumbled. But she has been more of the
1:15:01
Stoic 1 so. I agree.
1:15:03
I think there would be some interesting things to unearth
1:15:06
there because there's a lot that we don't know.
1:15:08
If she would be honest about it, and she doesn't have to be, she
1:15:11
doesn't owe anybody that. She doesn't owe anybody that.
1:15:14
Interesting to learn down the road when she's comfortable with
1:15:21
Oh, right. Wow.
1:15:22
Well, what an I love how this episode was like primarily about
1:15:30
You never know what you're going to get on this.
1:15:34
Academic process, like a box of chocolates.
1:15:37
I can't afford them because my name's Robyn, but you never know
1:15:47
seed and shit stain. Now normally I allow you, I ask
1:15:51
you to go first because. You allow me, You ask me.
1:15:55
Usually I ask you to go first because I was raised a proper
1:15:59
gentleman and my mother, you know, should be proud of what
1:16:02
she did. Well, no.
1:16:04
OK, Never taking that all back. Ordinarily, I ask you to go
1:16:09
first because I'm a good person. Because you're scared to tell
1:16:13
your truth. You're trying to keep sweet over
1:16:19
you're going to do, because I'm scared.
1:16:21
You need a leader. You need a leader.
1:16:24
So I'm going to go with my mustard seed and my mustard seed
1:16:31
first? I don't even care about this
1:16:33
episode. It was primarily about
1:16:34
Christine. All right, I'm going to go
1:16:36
first. Can I jump the line next?
1:16:41
I give you permission, little woman.
1:16:44
I give you permission, woman. You can go first.
1:16:47
You so much. You can go first.
1:16:49
I'm going to give my mustard seed to Christine.
1:16:51
It's because she was honest, but also it's because she was a cool
1:17:02
her, all right, if you want to do this career, like let's go do
1:17:10
doing the complete opposite and doing a career that she
1:17:14
obviously wasn't passionate about, she still wanted more for
1:17:29
And she took Kody along to pretend that he was a part of
1:17:33
it, even though he wasn't. So all the power to you, sister.
1:17:40
agree. OK about that mustard seed.
1:17:43
I'm going to give my mustard seed to little Isabel because
1:17:47
Isabel guilted Christine for not
1:17:51
she was studying her test. And while I do think the vibe of
1:17:56
this episode was that we're supposed to support Christine,
1:17:59
I'm not drinking that kool-aid.
1:18:01
I'm still going. Fuck yeah.
1:18:03
Isabel, Guilt. That mother who's ignoring you.
1:18:09
Terrible.
1:18:10
Terrible. To be real, who else gets a
1:18:13
fucking mustard seed? Who?
1:18:16
Nobody. Nobody.
1:18:18
The excavator for finally breaking ground.
1:18:21
Here I was going to selfishly take the mustard seed on this
1:18:23
one and you took it from me and it was the only person who
1:18:26
could even get one. Well, had your tongue or
1:18:30
something? I don't know why you're taking
1:18:32
so fucking lot. Because I literally just did not
1:18:35
want to give it to Christine. That is funny.
1:18:37
Like there was only one person
1:18:39
wouldn't give it to her. What is wrong with me?
1:18:41
You. Could have given it to Mekelty
1:18:43
for seeing her passions through,
1:18:47
going to happen. Honey, that would be a lie.
1:18:50
OK, so shit stain, darling. And if you take what I was going
1:18:54
to say, then I'm just going to
1:18:56
podcast. Oh my God, shit stain.
1:19:00
My shit stain is going to go to Meri.
1:19:05
Because I think she started reading the comments about the
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Sister Wives jewelry thinking it
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realized very quickly that they were people, like truly being
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like, what the fuck is this? And then she didn't know how to
1:19:20
backtrack. So it's like, OK, you dummy,
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why'd you do that? Second of all, she tries to make
1:19:32
this comment through Christine's
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wouldn't call this a failure, like trying to pretend like
1:19:41
she's going to save this conversation and it just
1:19:46
massively fails and doesn't make sense.
1:19:49
And thirdly, because we have cultural appropriation to a
1:19:54
whole new level here with complete and utter change of the
1:20:05
And I'm just so confused by her choices in makeup, in life, in
1:20:19
I don't understand it. You know, Meri's attempt at
1:20:24
devaluing or invalidating Christine's opinion, which?
1:20:26
She's done before, which she does, proudly, proudly.
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Yeah, is in itself a failure. So it's like, fuck you, Meri,
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you fail. Like Gross.
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But the chartreuse shirt, she thinks that she's really cool in
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She's earning a shit stain. Her.
1:20:45
Face is kind of like a shit stain, yeah.
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Fucking help this lady please.
1:20:52
help her, which is my shit stain, Robyn Brown.
1:20:55
Wow, she probably is the one encouraging Meri's look.
1:20:59
She's like, you look great, Mayor.
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Yeah, Robyn is getting my shit
1:21:05
stupid things that she said in
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that different for her, but you layer on top of that her trying
1:21:12
to make Kody sound like he's a
1:21:15
Oh, Oh yeah. Looking away while a woman
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disrobes and Hawking that terrible, terrible, terrible
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jewelry. The Estavia.
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And making it seem like everyone
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behind hers, which is honestly kind of bizarre that it ever
1:21:34
even came up because it's like, did we ever hear about Robyn
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dreaming of being a jewelry designer?
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Like it just kind of came out of nowhere.
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Well, she had a dream. Well, no, that's right.
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She had a dream, and now she's producing said jewelry, selling
1:21:47
it at such a high price that no one wants to buy it.
1:21:51
And she will continue to ride this terrible, terrible train
1:21:55
into shit town. Meanwhile, her £5 sterling
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silver WS will cut your chest if you.
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Even if you try to wear it, her jewelry will injure you.
1:22:06
It will cause bodily harm. You'll pay way too much.
1:22:10
Allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. If you buy it secondhand, this
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know. Our keep sweet moment this week
1:22:21
comes from. YouTube and it is from Tonya
1:22:25
Carter, 72. Tonya Harding.
1:22:27
Tonya Harding, 72. Dang, now?
1:22:30
It Tanya Carter, 72, says this intro is everything.
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Laugh emoji OMGI love your podcast.
1:22:38
You guys crack me up. Keep up the diabolical review of
1:22:45
You 2 are my mustard seed. Oh, I can't believe someone said
1:22:58
I feel like I'm a success. Christopher yeah, my mustard
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seed is going to go to you. Oh, because the intro is fucking
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Thank. You for wishing me Happy
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Mother's Day, Tanya, push that seed deep, deep inside of me.