Latest / gasp! the pod / sabrina carpent muncher
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- 0:00Sabrina Carpenter looks like the straightest girl alive really
- 0:03'cause she looks like she wants to kiss Jenna on the mouth.
- 0:15Hello gaspers, and welcome to another episode of gasp the pod.
- 0:20Oh, sorry, gasp the pod. Sorry everyone.
- 0:24Podcast for the gays, the girls, and especially the gay girls.
- 0:28And today we're going to talk about a gay girl, OK?
- 0:31We're going to talk about Sabrina Carpenter.
- 0:33Safrina Carpenter, Sabrina Carpent Muncher.
- 0:39That's a phrase that I tried to coin that no one wanted to use.
- 0:43I did an episode on what I will say is channel like a bunch of
- 0:47episodes back about Sabrina Carpenter and my theory about
- 0:51her being queer. And obviously this is a pretty
- 0:54widespread theory. I wanted to do a version of that
- 0:57episode and do it on my channel and also talk about what
- 1:02happened last night or no, two nights ago on SNL, three nights
- 1:08ago. Whoever's watching this now, it
- 1:09was probably a few nights ago on SNL because they literally did a
- 1:14skit talking about speculating on celebrities, sexualities and
- 1:18specifically about Sabrina Carpenter.
- 1:21So my theory is that I think she's bi and I think she's taken
- 1:26a few lessons from Taylor Swift. And I also kind of think that
- 1:32her and Barry were in APR relationship.
- 1:34It was kind of looking like that.
- 1:36And yeah, let's just get into it, OK?
- 1:39If anyone hasn't seen the SNL from this past Saturday night.
- 1:45So today's Tuesday when you're watching this, this is Tuesday,
- 1:48but for me it's Monday. SNL pretty much had this cast
- 1:53member come on and do like a joke song.
- 1:55And the joke song was pretty much talking about how all these
- 1:58other celebrities have queer rumors and but not really
- 2:02Sabrina Carpenter, even though Sabrina Carpenter is like
- 2:05kissing a girl in her music video and kissed a girl at the
- 2:10VMAs and like all these other things.
- 2:13And what I think is also kind of funny is like, obviously, maybe,
- 2:16maybe not, Obviously, perhaps this cast member is not on our
- 2:21side of the Internet where a lot of us are talking about Sabrina
- 2:24Carpenter probably being bisexual.
- 2:27Maybe they're just not tuned into that.
- 2:29But I do think there are a lot of people that like, don't see
- 2:34Sabrina as queer. And I think that comes down to
- 2:36two things. One, she's a girly pop.
- 2:39Them two, she talks about men a lot.
- 2:44Those things have nothing to do with liking Coochie.
- 2:49OK, you can do all of that and be queer all right.
- 2:54So and also I take offense as a blonde pop girly femme that like
- 3:04you can be like straight looking and be queer and sometimes even
- 3:09the most feminine of girls and the more like straight looking
- 3:14the girl is, I feel like I'm more likely to speculate that
- 3:17they're queer. I've been saying this back
- 3:20before she even kissed a girl in Taste and did all these things.
- 3:25And I know there's been other people that have been saying
- 3:28this too, but like it's kind of an obvious jump.
- 3:32And again, we need to remember like most people are queer.
- 3:36Like it's a spectrum. OK, so it's not the craziest
- 3:38thing that like supposedly boy boy liking boy crushing Sabrina
- 3:43Carpenter could be queer. Like there's also a pipeline of
- 3:49boy crazy to very sapphic. And that was so me, like I was
- 3:55kind of boy crazy. Like my life was kind of
- 4:00surrounding drama with my exes for a lot of it, like a lot of
- 4:07high school, a lot of college. Like I was very much a feminist,
- 4:11but like the drama. And also like, not because I was
- 4:13like in love with them, but it was more like the drama of it
- 4:17all and telling my girls like all about what happened with
- 4:20some dude. And also kind of like using them
- 4:22in this in like a sort of way. That whole culture is kind of
- 4:28sapphic in a way. And I don't know how to explain
- 4:31it. I don't know if we have time to
- 4:32get into all of that, but I think it's because it's very
- 4:38compact, right? Like the drama, the excitement,
- 4:41the anticipation, the like performance of the sex of it all
- 4:47is very sapphic. And I think like when you kind
- 4:50of like enter your first like WLW relationship when you are
- 4:55coming from a boy crazy past, you kind of realize like, Oh my
- 4:58God, none of that was real, right?
- 5:02Like a lot of that was performance.
- 5:04So that's just my theory. I think she is like very similar
- 5:08to that type of bisexual queer. Like I don't know what her
- 5:11identity is. Maybe she could be full on
- 5:12raging lesbian like and maybe she doesn't even know that yet.
- 5:15Who knows? The point is, I do think she's
- 5:18absolutely at least by she's got some level of queer in her that
- 5:23like that bitch is gay. I keep on thinking I'm not
- 5:26allowed to curse on this podcast because I've been going live so,
- 5:30so often and I've been getting in trouble.
- 5:34So it's kind of refreshing to be able to say whatever I want to
- 5:36say. I want to get into the meat of
- 5:38this before I do though. I'm aware that TikTok is ending
- 5:45very soon. Don't worry.
- 5:47All those blue sky people out there, I'm going to get a blue
- 5:50sky. But that to me doesn't like fill
- 5:53the void. I'm really trying to figure out
- 5:55if YouTube Shorts or Instagram Reels is going to be like the
- 5:59platform for me. I'm not sure yet.
- 6:02So let me know what you guys are going to use.
- 6:05I want to like go on whatever platform gatlers are going to be
- 6:09on. I've talked to Jordan and I've
- 6:10talked to Sydney. I need to talk to some other
- 6:13gaitlers about like what their platform of choice is going to
- 6:16be. So we need to like consolidate
- 6:18and like get all of us on there. I think that would be ideal.
- 6:21I also thought Lemonade was going to be the new TikTok,
- 6:24which I had been told is owned by TikTok.
- 6:28So it won't be all that to say we're going to be OK everyone.
- 6:32And also my account is not going to vanish.
- 6:34If you're an international listener, which a lot of you
- 6:37are, it's not going to vanish. However, in the US, you won't
- 6:42be. We won't be able to download it.
- 6:44It's already going to be on my phone, but you won't be able to
- 6:47have any updates. So eventually it's like TikTok
- 6:50is going to become unusable for us, which is literally so
- 6:54insane. I don't know if I have to move,
- 6:57what's going to happen, but I want to have a backup.
- 7:01So that's the plan. Guys.
- 7:02My girlfriend is in town right now, but she's doing her
- 7:05laundry. Isn't that so sweet?
- 7:07So I'm recording while she's doing her laundry.
- 7:09Let's get into the bulk of it. So I just talked about the SNL
- 7:12skit that I think is very poignant and very on topic right
- 7:16now. There's a lot of people on
- 7:18TikTok being like, oh, that skit is just showing that all of them
- 7:22are doing it to get more popularity.
- 7:25And I'm like, either way, this skit is talking about how these
- 7:30celebrities are flagging queer things.
- 7:34They're queer flagging. So yeah, there's a chance that
- 7:37Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpenter, Shawn Mendes, all these people
- 7:40are doing that for popularity. I think that would be fucking
- 7:43insane. And I think that if Taylor Swift
- 7:45is straight and is doing this intentionally, like, I think
- 7:47you've lost me. Like, you've lost me as a fan.
- 7:50And that would be extremely disappointing.
- 7:52Let's do what the timeline starting from kind of the
- 7:57beginning of Sabrina Carpenter's popularity.
- 8:00I know there's some people that are like experts on this, so I'm
- 8:03not going to get like super nitty gritty, but if there's
- 8:06something you guys want me to talk about more, I can do
- 8:08another episode on it. So Sabrina Carpenter was in Girl
- 8:13Meets World with Rowan Blanchard.
- 8:15Rowan is out as queer, so it's not the craziest jump that
- 8:21Sabrina and Rowan were in a relationship.
- 8:24They were very close friends. If you like look up like Sabrina
- 8:29and Rowan dating, there's all of these like pictures of them,
- 8:32like longingly looking at each other and all these like, you
- 8:36know, SUS interviews. It's giving very much early
- 8:41stage Kayler. And if you look up like, are
- 8:43they still friends? It's like, yeah, they're still
- 8:45friends, but they don't see each other as much.
- 8:47It's literally giving Kayler in like 2017.
- 8:49So that's what I think about the whole situation.
- 8:53I'm not I wouldn't be surprised if they had something going on.
- 8:56Who knows if it was romantic or if it was just like friends with
- 8:59benefits or like a weird like sexual tension.
- 9:03Saphix are crazy, you know, so if you were friends with someone
- 9:07and you're not really sure what's happening, like it could
- 9:10have been that situation. So I think like a lot of the
- 9:12times when straight people hear us speculating on sexuality,
- 9:16they're like, well, they might have not dated.
- 9:19It's like, yeah, but that doesn't erase the queerness of
- 9:22it, OK? There's a lot of different
- 9:23things in between strictly friends and like, a
- 9:27relationship, especially if you're younger and, like,
- 9:29figuring out your sexuality. So there's this very specific
- 9:33interview that's from 2015 with Rowan and Sabrina and Pacific
- 9:40Rim videos is like the one interviewing them.
- 9:44And the interviewer goes, which one of you guys is more boy
- 9:47crazy? And they literally have panic in
- 9:50their eyes. They ask which one is more boy
- 9:52crazy. They're like panicking.
- 9:54Sabrina literally says as she's like looking to Rowan.
- 9:58She goes, I don't think any of us are boy crazy.
- 10:00I mean, we appreciate the male gender.
- 10:03And then she like pauses and like kind of is smiling and
- 10:06smirking. She goes as well as the female.
- 10:10That's a question about like romance, like sex wise.
- 10:15It's like boy crazy. It's not like oh, who do you
- 10:18like being friends with more? And she's like, oh, I like
- 10:20female friends and boyfriends or like whatever.
- 10:23Like she says in response to the question about are you boy crazy
- 10:27says we appreciate both. That's like, pretty much coming
- 10:32out as bisexual in my book. And then Rowan laughs, and they,
- 10:35like, turn away and they, like, kind of nod awkwardly.
- 10:38And then Rowan puts her arm like, around Sabrina.
- 10:41It's the most awkward thing. You can tell.
- 10:44They're like, wait, what do we say?
- 10:47Should we have even said that? Sabrina looks like she shouldn't
- 10:49have even said that. It's so uncomfortable.
- 10:52It's so queer. And it's the kind of thing where
- 10:55like it reminds me of like when I came out with my cousins to my
- 10:59family and it was like, I'm not going to answer a question.
- 11:01Do I have a boyfriend one more time?
- 11:03If someone asks me, do I have a boyfriend?
- 11:06I'm going to say something because why are you assuming?
- 11:09It kind of seemed like that them being like, I'm not boy crazy.
- 11:12I'm by wait. And then I can't say that like,
- 11:16on TV. So that is kind of one of the
- 11:19first pieces of solid evidence we see from Sabrina Carpenter in
- 11:23her queerness. So in 2018, Sabrina wrote a,
- 11:27like, love letter to the LGBTQ community for Billboard.
- 11:32And, like, go look it up. It's so queer.
- 11:35It's like, very much like huge ally vibes being like, thank you
- 11:39to the LGBTQ community. Like, you inspire me so much.
- 11:44You have so much bravery. And it's just really giving me
- 11:48when I worked for the LGBTQ task Force and I thought I was an
- 11:52ally. And then like, one month later,
- 11:53I came out. So yeah.
- 11:55I just think the bigger ally you are, the more suspicious it is.
- 12:00So there's only a few pieces of like queer evidence from Sabrina
- 12:05over the last decade until like kind of the last two years.
- 12:09It amps up a little bit. And I do think that's kind of
- 12:12interesting. Like she's associating and like
- 12:15getting closer with Taylor Swift more, who has a record of maybe
- 12:20being queer and like putting queer flags in her lyrics.
- 12:23Like maybe she's trying to figure out a way to balance it
- 12:26and like, put it into her music. And also maybe she's figuring
- 12:29out her sexuality more. Maybe she's more comfortable
- 12:31with it, but she sings in Slim Picken.
- 12:35Since the Lord forgot. Since the good Lord forgot my
- 12:38gay awakening. Everyone heard this lyric and
- 12:42for some reason when they heard gay awakening they were like oh
- 12:46the Lord didn't make her gay. Hello.
- 12:48That's crazy. When a straight person is
- 12:51singing about like a wishing they were gay, hands down.
- 12:55That's like gay, OK, that's giving lesbian to me.
- 12:59It's like, oh, it would be so much easier if I could just eat
- 13:01a woman. Like I remember having that
- 13:04exact thought. So even if we take it from the
- 13:07way that like all the straights take this line and analyze this
- 13:11line, it's still gay because you're like wanting to be gay.
- 13:15You're like, I wish the good Lord made me gay.
- 13:20And it's like, bitch, you're allowed to be gay.
- 13:22You can do it right now. If you want it that bad, you can
- 13:24do it. That was literally me.
- 13:26I remember having this thought where I was like, it would be so
- 13:28much easier if I could just date a girl and not date guys again.
- 13:31And then I was like, wait, I can.
- 13:34So that's the one piece. That's the one point of analysis
- 13:36where everyone's like this proves that she's not gay.
- 13:40If anything for me that cements it.
- 13:42But there are also other ways to analyze this.
- 13:46I took it when I first heard that line as the Lord forgot
- 13:50that he made her gay or they them The Lord is probably not he
- 13:55him, let's be honest. But I took it as God forgot to
- 14:01send her women. Like she kind of she forgot her
- 14:06gay awakening and God forgot her gay awakening.
- 14:10And it's kind of like when you come out as bi and you're stuck
- 14:14dating these men because they're just like the ones that come up
- 14:17first. And that's how I felt when I
- 14:20first came out. When I first came out.
- 14:21I dated like multiple guys after that before I actually started
- 14:25dating girls and it was easier. And not because it was easier,
- 14:29like it was better. It was easier because I was used
- 14:33to men pursuing me and I didn't know how to pursue women.
- 14:36And it's not that hard, but it's like a jump.
- 14:39And so I took it as like, oh, she's this bisexual that just
- 14:43can't stop dating these guys. Like, just because they're just
- 14:46the ones. Oops.
- 14:48They're just the ones like presenting themselves to her
- 14:51first. And also let's say like she's a
- 14:52fab. There's a lot of girls that
- 14:54might not realize that she's queer.
- 14:55That's how I felt too. Like I was dating guys and I
- 14:58didn't know if people like, I didn't know how to like get
- 15:01myself into that situation, right?
- 15:04So that might be her feeling as well.
- 15:06Like I just keep on dating these guys and I need to remember that
- 15:11I'm literally gay. That's how I took the line.
- 15:15And also that line feels very bearding, too.
- 15:20Like if I have to be with you, I guess, like you're going to be
- 15:24the one I'm kissing. Like I have to get something and
- 15:28I can't date girls, so I have to date you.
- 15:31Like, maybe she's showing I can't publicly be gay right now.
- 15:35Who knows? Again, who knows the situation.
- 15:37Oh, also in June of this year, Sabrina covered Good Luck Babe
- 15:42for BBC Radio. And there's a lot of people that
- 15:44are like, it's just a song. It's just a song.
- 15:46Yeah, sure, whatever. It's just a song.
- 15:48But it's a very lesbian song. It's literally a song that says
- 15:51when you wake up next to him in the middle of the night with
- 15:54your head in your hands, you're nothing more than his wife.
- 16:00People not hear this line. It's a song about being like,
- 16:03you're going to regret not living your authentic life and
- 16:10like being with a girl. So it's not just a song.
- 16:14Like if you say it's just a song, you're completely erasing
- 16:16the entire meaning. And Sabrina's like desire to
- 16:19like want to record. This is queer.
- 16:22I'm sorry. I am also so sick of straight
- 16:26people telling me and telling people what is queer and what is
- 16:29not queer. You literally don't get to
- 16:31decide. I'm so fucking sick of it.
- 16:33Why do straight people feel like they have such a right to tell
- 16:37us what is gay and what is not gay?
- 16:40You don't get to like, it's up to us.
- 16:44I've said it once and I'll say it before any queer person,
- 16:47whatever. We can talk all day and like all
- 16:50night about what is gay. And like, if you think you
- 16:52shouldn't speculate on sexuality, I mean, I'm going to
- 16:54disagree with you and I'll tell you why.
- 16:56But at least you have the right to say that straight women who
- 17:00are feminists, right, are like, OK, men don't get to tell us,
- 17:04you know what's a part of feminism?
- 17:06Men don't get to tell us how to feel men, blah, blah, blah,
- 17:08blah, blah. The disadvantaged group gets to
- 17:12set the standard of how they want conversations.
- 17:15Queer people get to set the standard if you're straight,
- 17:18especially if you're a straight woman who, like, considers
- 17:20themselves like an ally or feminist.
- 17:22And I'm sure like none of you guys are like actually listening
- 17:25to this, if you like, think that you could tell queer people what
- 17:29to do. But it is seriously so
- 17:32frustrating that straight people for some reason feel like they
- 17:35have any right to decide what is OK to say when talking about
- 17:41queer topics. And like, especially in in pop
- 17:44culture and like what we're allowed to talk about, that's
- 17:48actually insane. Like you would never tell a
- 17:52black person we that's not OK to say.
- 17:56Like you shouldn't say that about race.
- 18:00You have no right. Like why are we?
- 18:03I just feel like we're going backwards like straight people.
- 18:06Where did you get the gall? Where did you get the gall to
- 18:10tell queer people what is OK to say?
- 18:14We need to protect closeted gay people from gay people.
- 18:18OK, you. We need to protect closeted gay
- 18:20people from you. We're not the enemy.
- 18:24And the only reason why when closeted people get outed, for
- 18:28example, there's anything bad that happens from that is from
- 18:32homophobes, not from gay people recognizing that that person is
- 18:38gay. And any gay person knows when
- 18:40someone is actually closeted. If you're singing and kissing a
- 18:43girl in the mouth, you're not closeted.
- 18:47Like point blank, period. Right.
- 18:49Let's move on to the whole short and sweet album, the tour, the
- 18:55music videos and pretty much like this very queer album
- 19:01that's kind of been shrouded in compet and like straight boy
- 19:09crazy stuff that's kind of hiding how gay the album is, how
- 19:15like Sapphic the album is. Because just because she's
- 19:19singing about boys doesn't mean she's also not singing about
- 19:22girls. I think it was really strategic
- 19:25that she's kind of like putting on this aura, this performance
- 19:29and her on stage, it does feel like a performance of like
- 19:32hypersexuality that is focused on men.
- 19:36And I feel like that's a very, like, nice way just kind of like
- 19:40throw these queer moments in and for some reason no one notices
- 19:44them. Like, have you guys heard of by
- 19:47people She could be into men and women at the same time.
- 19:51They're like, oh, Sabrina Carpenter can't be queer.
- 19:53She, like, loves men. It's like, OK, and she could
- 19:59like women. Holy shit, you guys aren't
- 20:03getting it. Sabrina Carpenter looks like the
- 20:06straightest girl alive. Really.
- 20:08Because she looks like she wants to kiss Jenna on the mouth.
- 20:10Straight girls don't ask to kiss girls on the mouth.
- 20:15And anyone saying oh that Taste music video is exactly like
- 20:19death becomes her. I saw Death becomes her, you
- 20:22guys, it is one of the best movies of all time.
- 20:25And I do think there are a lot of sapphic themes in that.
- 20:28And like kind of like focusing on the woman more than you're
- 20:31focusing on the man and the man is irrelevant.
- 20:34And it's like these like girls going at each other.
- 20:37It's definitely very queer. But there's no kissing and Death
- 20:40becomes her. Sabrina did not have to kiss
- 20:43Jenna Ortega. It actually made no sense for
- 20:46the plot. The only reason it made sense is
- 20:49because Sabrina wanted to kiss someone.
- 20:50And also is rumoured to be a lesbian.
- 20:52So anyone who's like no guys, it's showing that like she's the
- 20:58ghost of the guy. And the whole point is that
- 21:01she's jealous of her and she's going to taste her when she's
- 21:04kissed. No, I get it, I get it.
- 21:08But it really doesn't make sense.
- 21:10They don't have to kiss. And Sabrina did not have to kiss
- 21:13a girl. And anyone that's kissing a girl
- 21:16in a music video knows that people are going to say, Oh my
- 21:21God, are you gay? That rhymed.
- 21:24This is not a movie where she's playing a lesbian character.
- 21:28She as much as she's an actor. This is the music video for her
- 21:32own song and then she one UPS the taste music video at the VM
- 21:37as by literally kissing the girl alien, she shoves the dude away.
- 21:43It's very different actually from the original music video
- 21:48and it feels almost kind of like she's doubling down.
- 21:52She's like, did you guys not catch that I kissed Jenna Ortega
- 21:56like because I'm going to kiss a girl again.
- 21:58She kisses an alien, a girl alien, and that's actually
- 22:01somehow levels up the queerness. It's like, oh, this shouldn't
- 22:05exist on this planet. It's giving very down bad
- 22:08energy. But she kisses this girl alien
- 22:11and pushes the dude away. She kissed the girl for a reason
- 22:17and she literally wants nothing to do with the dude.
- 22:20Like how are we not getting that?
- 22:21It's like going right over our hats.
- 22:23Someone does not have to send a press release to your address
- 22:27and say hello fan I am queer. If they kiss a girl on main
- 22:33you're gay in my book. Like it is 2024 grow up.
- 22:38When I first saw the clip of Taste and I like woke up that
- 22:42morning with a picture on TikTok of Sabrina and Jenna kissing,
- 22:48locking lips and I was like Oh my God, she's out.
- 22:53Take a shot for how many times us in this community sees
- 22:58something like that, thinks that that's a coming out.
- 23:00And then every person on the Internet is like, that's not
- 23:03gay. I really feel like celebrities
- 23:06are like, what else can we do? We want to like include it in
- 23:09our art. You know what I mean?
- 23:11Instead of being so obvious and like unfun, like they just want
- 23:16to be fun with it. And for some reason you guys
- 23:18aren't getting it through your thick skull.
- 23:19What's funny is like, Candace Owens gets it.
- 23:22Like Republicans thinks think these things are gay.
- 23:25Candace Owens had a video where she was talking about how gay
- 23:28Wicked is. Yet there's still like liberals
- 23:30that are like they're friends. And it's like, if the
- 23:32Republicans see that this is gay, it's probably gay.
- 23:36Oh, I completely forgot. I kind of like let my temper
- 23:40take me away. Let's start with how she started
- 23:44promoting Short and Sweet. So when Short and Sweet first
- 23:48was released, she posted an Instagram story when her album
- 23:52came out writing I'm and then above it.
- 23:56So she wrote I'm in the Insta story and then below it.
- 23:59It was like a repost of her album from her Instagram and
- 24:02then below it said out now I'm out now guys, guys, she wouldn't
- 24:10have added the I'm if she was just out now.
- 24:13I mean, if the album was just out now, it is literally like
- 24:19Taylor Swift's Me out now with Lover on Lesbian Visibility Day.
- 24:23She knows what happens when Taylor Swift does these kinds of
- 24:28things, right? She knows that when Taylor Swift
- 24:32did that, everyone was like, Oh my God.
- 24:34Or at least the Gaylors were like, Oh my God, out now.
- 24:38So that's why Sabrina Carpenter did it, because she's, like,
- 24:41taking notes from Taylor Swift being like, yeah, I want fans,
- 24:46the real ones, to know that I'm out.
- 24:48And I do feel like less people saw that as queer and gaylors
- 24:53and carpet munchers. We were one in the same.
- 24:56We're going to expand our forces.
- 24:58The whole kiss marks. I have yet to see a straight
- 25:02person explain that to me in a way that makes sense.
- 25:06OK, it's beyond just like a girly little kiss thing.
- 25:11It's not a kiss on the mirror. She couldn't have kissed her
- 25:14shoulder her on the cover of the short and sweet album, she has a
- 25:19kiss mark on her shoulder that has to either be from a woman or
- 25:23a man wearing lipstick. Lips of scarlet.
- 25:25They wear maroon. It's giving Taylor Swift and
- 25:30it's also very genius cause a lot of these things can be
- 25:34argued like from a delusional straight perspective, like it's
- 25:41shrouded in this very ultra femme way.
- 25:45Like kiss marks are very very femme, right?
- 25:48And for some reason, straight people see that as just like,
- 25:52straight and femme, when in reality, it can be gay and
- 25:57femme. You know what I mean?
- 25:59So like, she's shrouding, she's covering up the queerness, but
- 26:03she's only using these like, queer Easter eggs that are very,
- 26:07like, ultra femme girly. And for some reason, that's like
- 26:11not getting through straight people's brains.
- 26:15But a kiss mark on your shoulder, even though she wears
- 26:19lipstick too. A girl with lipstick had to have
- 26:22kissed her on the shoulder. That's queer 2 girls can kiss
- 26:27and wear lipstick. I know crazy.
- 26:30Also there's multiple lipstick marks sewed into her tights
- 26:34during performances and her thigh, like her inner thigh.
- 26:38She couldn't have kissed that all these Marks and I know she's
- 26:41collecting them on her bodysuit as she goes to all of these
- 26:44different locations on tour in cities.
- 26:49It's just kind of committing to this bit even more showing like
- 26:54their kiss marks in places that I could not kiss like it's a
- 26:59girl kissing me. 01 more thing about the taste performance at
- 27:04the VMA's. It's pretty wild that Shawn
- 27:08Mendes and Camila Cabello were like all there and I feel like
- 27:11they definitely had a very messy little love triangle going on.
- 27:16It's just pretty funny that they all performed.
- 27:18I don't doubt that Shawn, Shawn Mendes and Sabrina hooked up.
- 27:22It's very much like buy for buy. Like Sabrina obviously likes
- 27:26these kind of like queer looking men, like real like that's so
- 27:31buy of her. I don't know what else to say.
- 27:35But the fact that she rips off her collar right before she
- 27:40kisses the girl, I felt was very symbolic.
- 27:45And I did feel like was kind of a metaphor of like, I'm being
- 27:49trapped maybe by Disney. Like she guys, she was on
- 27:52Disney. So anyone being like, Oh my God,
- 27:54she would have been out by now. Guys, get with the program.
- 27:57Homophobia still exists. I know you guys forget, straight
- 28:00people forget. We have to live with it every
- 28:02day. So it's really not crazy that
- 28:05Disney would like not let her come out.
- 28:08That is literally like something that so many queer stars have
- 28:13had to go through. Selena Gomez is probably queer,
- 28:15by the way. Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, all of
- 28:18these queer stars, they're queer now.
- 28:21Couldn't be queer then. Are we seeing a correlation?
- 28:26Corporations don't want people to be gay on main, especially in
- 28:31the early 2000 tens. So I feel like that was kind of
- 28:36a metaphor of being like, maybe like trapped and told that she
- 28:39couldn't come out by the industry perhaps, or maybe
- 28:43people just advising her like, you know, this isn't going to go
- 28:45over well. Like your entire like fan base
- 28:48are like these straight girls that see themselves in.
- 28:51You sound familiar to Taylor Swift.
- 28:53I think that's why there's kind of like this mentor relationship
- 28:56going on. I think that they relate on a
- 28:58lot of levels. Let's talk about the tour.
- 29:01And the tour started September 24th, so it's been going on now
- 29:05for a few months. And I'm pretty sure she just
- 29:07wrapped up her American leg. The whole set is very hyper
- 29:14femme retro Barbie, right? And I think like, because her
- 29:21whole aesthetic is very girly pop queer, sorry, girly pop,
- 29:27very feminine, like woman, girl, girl, girl, lipstick, cutesy.
- 29:33I think people are having a hard time like moving past that and
- 29:36seeing queer, especially people that don't understand that like
- 29:39sometimes being hyper femme is a way to flag that you're queer,
- 29:44right? So I see that and I'm like, OK,
- 29:47hyper femme. Like that's me.
- 29:50She also, as everyone knows at this point, she shouts out and
- 29:55arrests fans in the crowd for being too hot and sexy before
- 29:59performing Juno. And Juno is like maybe her most
- 30:03horny song on the album. I mean, the lyrics are literally
- 30:08like, make me want to fall in love, want to try out some
- 30:10freaky positions and we'll get into strap Rena because there's
- 30:15literally a position where she's like, and straight people
- 30:18couldn't make sense because I think they were like, oh, is she
- 30:20pegging someone? Guys, She's just wearing a
- 30:22strap. And I don't actually think that
- 30:24Sabrina. I don't actually think that
- 30:27Sabrina, like is a strapper. But I also think it's her
- 30:31flagging queer things, right? But she shouts out and arrests
- 30:35fans for being too hot and sexy. And at first she was arresting
- 30:40like male fans, and then she started arresting girl fans and
- 30:44quite literally says, Oh my gosh, you're making me so hot
- 30:48and flustered. And her skirt falls off because
- 30:51she's too flustered by these girls.
- 30:54She's quite literally flirting with them, asking them what
- 30:56their phone number is. That is not tongue in cheek.
- 30:59I mean, the entire thing is tongue in cheek, but it's
- 31:01showing. Oh, I flirt with girls and guys.
- 31:03And if you only see that she's flirting with the guys in the
- 31:07crowd and not the girls, and you're saying it makes everyone
- 31:10feel included, you're literally erasing queer things and shut
- 31:15up. I'm so sorry.
- 31:16Like, I'm at my wit's end of people saying that that's not
- 31:19gay. That is so gay.
- 31:21She couldn't have been more straight.
- 31:23I mean, she couldn't have been more gay in these moments.
- 31:26It doesn't make any sense. She gives them fuzzy handcuffs.
- 31:30She's not being friends. She's not trying to be friends
- 31:32with the girls in the crowd, guys.
- 31:34She's showing in a funny, cheeky way.
- 31:37Look, I'm flirting with everyone.
- 31:38I'm a bi queen in bed chem which is also very sexual song.
- 31:44There's 2 girls laying next to her as she's like singing and
- 31:48they like touch and caress her body like as she's singing bed
- 31:53chem laying next to her in the bed.
- 31:56These are not like friends just preparing her for her hook up
- 31:59with a man. OK guys these are queers.
- 32:04I also thought that the line come right on me.
- 32:07I mean, camaraderie. When I first heard that, I
- 32:11thought it said come ride on me. And I thought that was kind of a
- 32:15very gay thing to do. Like a girl rides on you.
- 32:18Like does a guy ride on a girl? I think it's like weird
- 32:21language. And I'm, I don't know, maybe
- 32:23that's just me. But like when you're laying in
- 32:27bed with girls and singing like a sex song, I'm going to say
- 32:31it's gay. A spade is a spade.
- 32:33Billie Eilish did the same thing in Lost Cause, and there's a lot
- 32:38of people saying it was gay. There's a lot of people are
- 32:39saying that like, oh, she was just like flagging that to get
- 32:43more attention and make more money.
- 32:44And then she literally came out. So is she just making it
- 32:47obvious? I think she's making it so
- 32:50goddamn obvious up to the point before she has to say I'm bi
- 32:55because you guys are so fucking stupid.
- 32:58How can you not see this? Like peel back the layers, read
- 33:02in between the lines sometimes. Look at art and see what she's
- 33:06saying. She's bi.
- 33:08Let's talk about Barry Keegan or Kogan or Kyogan.
- 33:13I literally still don't know what his name is and I don't
- 33:15really care. He gives a bisexual girls type.
- 33:20He's ugly, hot, and kind of effeminate and also has queer
- 33:26rumors. I mean, like he was really
- 33:28flirting with Jacob Lordy on the Salburn press tour.
- 33:33It was incredibly horny. So in July 2023, Barry split
- 33:41from Allison, who was a dental nurse and a therapist, and they
- 33:45have a kid together named Brando.
- 33:49There's been a lot of rumors that Barry has not been spending
- 33:53a lot of time with his son. Who knows if that's true.
- 33:57But the timeline of their relationship, at least Sabrina
- 34:01and Barry, is that literally only a few months after they
- 34:05split, Sabrina went to a salt burn screening and then they
- 34:11soon after that like started seeing each other.
- 34:16So that's a pretty quick transition that also kind of
- 34:20works for APR relationship. How quick this happened like
- 34:24after like his split and then also trying to find someone to
- 34:28like add up his public persona, like during the Saltburn press
- 34:34era, right? Like it has really added to his
- 34:38career and also given Sabrina kind of someone to peg her songs
- 34:44onto, you know what I mean, without it being maybe a girl
- 34:47muse and just having like someone for her to be shipped
- 34:51with. And I also think that the fact
- 34:54that he was kind of ugly hot fed the media a lot, right?
- 35:00There was a blind item in July 2024 that the breakup was coming
- 35:05soon and they didn't break up. And then now they did break up
- 35:09and there's rumors that he cheated.
- 35:12He made this whole response to all of these rumors being like,
- 35:15don't say I'm a bad dad. Don't say I'm like, like he's
- 35:18heard some horrible things, which I get like, I don't know
- 35:21if he's in his child's life. Like, I'm not going to pretend
- 35:23to say that. I like really know that that
- 35:25those are just what other people are saying.
- 35:28But he didn't actually acknowledge any of the cheating
- 35:31rumors. I don't know if he cheated.
- 35:33I mean, I don't even know if they were together.
- 35:34And I think like two days after these rumors came out, Sabrina
- 35:39did her Christmas special premiere and she seemed very
- 35:44happy and fine. Like, I don't know, I just don't
- 35:47really think they were together. I don't really think it makes
- 35:49sense that they were together. I feel like the cheating thing
- 35:53felt very fabricated and like there was not really much
- 35:58evidence to it. I mean, it's going to be
- 36:01interesting if she comes out with like, a song about being
- 36:04mad and like, it's kind of like that kind of situation that will
- 36:08kind of feed into the lore of it all.
- 36:11But I feel like she kind of used him for his purpose and then is
- 36:14moving on with her life. I also never really saw them
- 36:17together that much. Like they weren't really going
- 36:19out to dinner. They weren't really doing much.
- 36:21They were never, like, any pictures of them, like going
- 36:24into places together and leaving like there were with her and
- 36:27Sean. Yeah.
- 36:30I just don't really buy it. Yeah.
- 36:32I mean, it kind of worked out very well that she was like,
- 36:36please don't prove me wrong. And then he did prove her wrong.
- 36:38That felt very orchestrated in please, please, please.
- 36:42And the fact that he was in that music video.
- 36:45I don't know, guys. I just like, would Sabrina have
- 36:48had Shawn Mendes in her music video when they were kind of
- 36:51like, on and off, like, I don't know, I just don't really buy
- 36:55it. I think that kind of adds to the
- 36:56whole lore and also kind of covers up the queerness that
- 37:01she's putting in to all of her songs.
- 37:03People are very quick to say that talking about someone's
- 37:06sexuality is really disrespectful to their current
- 37:10relationship, which is fucking insane.
- 37:13And your sexuality has actually, like, usually nothing to do with
- 37:16your relationship, especially if you're queer and on the
- 37:19spectrum. And like, by like, if Sabrina
- 37:22likes girls, that has nothing to do with her in a relationship
- 37:24with a man. So yeah, I never really bought
- 37:28that. I think that people saying that
- 37:30she just has been involved with men and those are the only
- 37:33public relationships we've seen. She gives really straight girl
- 37:36vibes. She screams straight.
- 37:39She always talking about sex with guys.
- 37:41She's just making like she's just being an actor and being
- 37:44creative. These are all the same arguments
- 37:46that Taylor Swift is straight and we as a society have got to
- 37:49move past this idea that like a lesbian or a bye girl or a gay
- 37:54girl looks a certain way and they can be femmes with long
- 37:58hair and and blonde with banks. Girls can be gay, accept it.
- 38:04And I don't know if it makes straight people feel threatened
- 38:09that like maybe a street icon is being taken from them.
- 38:12If so, like you're going to have to deal with this a lot because
- 38:16most people in the world are probably somewhere biacurious to
- 38:21gay. That's just kind of the facts of
- 38:24life. You guys are going to have to
- 38:26accept that. Not you guys.
- 38:27You guys agree with me. But yeah, like there's a lot of
- 38:32people on the Internet saying like, is there anyone you think
- 38:34is straight? I don't know, like very few.
- 38:36I think most people are gay. I think that that's like human
- 38:41nature. So that's what I think about
- 38:46Sabrina Carpenter. I'm sure we're going to see a
- 38:48lot more from her. And I'm excited for this next
- 38:52era without Barry and to see like what happens with her.
- 38:56I'm really happy that she's like taken her career to the next
- 39:01level. I mean, she was like my number
- 39:02three most listened to artist this year.
- 39:04And before her last album Emails, I like never really
- 39:10listened to her. I didn't even know she made
- 39:11music, like truthfully before, kind of like nonsense.
- 39:15So I love her. I love her music.
- 39:18I think she's a bike queen and we'll see what happens.
- 39:21I would love for her and Taylor to have a song together, just
- 39:24like Gracie and Taylor. I'm going to take a little break
- 39:26for the holidays and then to come back for Season 2, so let
- 39:28me know if you have any suggestions on what you want me
- 39:31to talk about in season 2. Everyone have a great holiday
- 39:33season. Stay safe, stay warm.
- 39:36Hopefully it snows because at this point I'm feeling like
- 39:39upset about climate change and all of that.
- 39:41Also, what are the drones? What's going on with the drones?
- 39:45There's a lot to deal with. That's why I stay eating
- 39:47gummies. Anyways, love you guys, thanks
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