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Hour 1 - Entertainment Matters in Politics · The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, everybody. Tuesday, Clay and Buck starts now.
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  Speaker 2: Great to be with you, and much to discuss, as
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  Speaker 2: tends to be the case. Donald Trump, the man himself,
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  Speaker 2: out in Kansas on the campaign trail, lighting it up,
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  Speaker 2: and we think that this is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: critical part, we're hoping it'll be a critical part of
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  Speaker 2: The Republicans' late push to pull out some, perhaps come
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  Speaker 2: from behind wins, or maybe just break the tie or
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  Speaker 2: the deadlock in their favor in some of these most important,
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  Speaker 2: most critical elections that are out there, which we continue
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  Speaker 2: to discuss. Trump also weighed in on the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
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  Speaker 2: And this is something that we all recall, or certainly
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  Speaker 2: Clay and I recall, Trump said that he would.
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  Speaker 1: Fix this in one day. We remember we.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that was was that the same interview
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  Speaker 2: where he said Putin was genius and then the entire
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  Speaker 2: world flipped out?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I believe that was, in fact, if I remember correctly,
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  Speaker 3: a February of 22 Clay and Buck show exclusive from
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  Speaker 3: Mar-a-Lago that set the world on fire.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he's genius, and he was talking about
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  Speaker 2: it in a specific context that in context it all
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  Speaker 2: made sense. But, of course, it was just he said
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  Speaker 2: Putin's a genius, so they got all crazy about it.
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  Speaker 2: Michigan Senate race, that one is one of the biggest,
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  Speaker 2: most important in the country. I wonder, Clay, which one,
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  Speaker 2: when all is said and done, is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the most expensive? Texas race is super expensive. Michigan race
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  Speaker 2: is super expensive.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good time to be in local TV, Buck.
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  Speaker 3: This is like Christmas morning every day, I would imagine,
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  Speaker 3: for business executives who happen to own those Battleground State
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  Speaker 3: local ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox affiliates. And a lot
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  Speaker 3: of companies elsewhere. It's a great question. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: if I had to ask you, if you could know
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  Speaker 3: one outcome as we sit here two weeks away, only
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  Speaker 3: one race. but you had to extrapolate based on the
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  Speaker 3: outcome of that race. I've got an answer. Which race
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  Speaker 3: would you want to know the outcome of? You can
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  Speaker 3: know the exact totals, exact results. I think we might
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  Speaker 3: have the same answer here, but for me, it's Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: It's Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking Michigan. I think I might go Ohio now.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Because if we don't win the Ohio Senate, then I
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  Speaker 3: think there's no way we're going to win Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And so Ohio Senate to me, Michigan, you could lose.
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  Speaker 3: We could lose. I said that Mike Rogers going to
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  Speaker 3: win by twenty six thousand votes. Very specific. If I'm
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  Speaker 3: if I'm wrong and we lose Michigan by fifteen thousand votes,
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  Speaker 3: it could still be a really, really good midterm for
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  Speaker 3: the battleground states because Michigan is a stretch. Well, but
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  Speaker 3: if we lose Ohio, we're cooked. Let me just put
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  Speaker 3: it that way, succinctly, as the kids would say. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We are cooked.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're going to hope for some ticket splitting
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  Speaker 2: there because I do think Vivek Ramaswamy is in a very,
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  Speaker 2: very tough spot right now.
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  Speaker 1: But let's look at this. Kansas.
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  Speaker 2: Why are we talking about Kansas? Not that Kansas isn't
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  Speaker 2: worthy of discussion, of course. Great state. Great state, the Kansas.
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  Speaker 2: But Donald Trump was there campaigning for Republican candidates, and
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  Speaker 2: he is supporting Senator Marshall, who is locked in a
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  Speaker 2: The media is saying, at least, Clay, unexpectedly tight race
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  Speaker 2: against Democrat candidate and Methodist pastor Adam Hamilton. So Trump
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  Speaker 2: is going around this state now, which they're calling a
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  Speaker 2: battleground on this. I have a hard time believing it's
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  Speaker 2: as tight as some of the pollsters and some of
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  Speaker 2: the media are saying. And remember... The greatest pollster in Iowa,
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  Speaker 2: according to the mainstream media, had the biggest whiff of
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  Speaker 2: any pollster we've ever seen in her state that she
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  Speaker 2: was in charge of.
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  Speaker 3: And Seltzer going out. That's actually, Buck, we should make
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  Speaker 3: a Seltzer, like make it a word that we use
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  Speaker 3: for someone who goes out at the absolute worst of
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  Speaker 3: their career, right? This would be, she had an esteemed
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  Speaker 3: career as a pollster. Everybody talked about her. Then she
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  Speaker 3: came out and said Kamala was going to win. Iowa,
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  Speaker 3: and Kamala lost Iowa by 13. I think she was
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  Speaker 3: 16 points off in her final poll. That's a seltzer.
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  Speaker 3: When you go out as the absolute worst of what
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  Speaker 3: you did for your career.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So pollsters can be very wrong, as we know. But
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  Speaker 2: they're saying Kansas is tight. So Trump is there doing
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  Speaker 2: the Trump thing on the campaign trail, where he is
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  Speaker 2: certainly at home and an asset to get the base
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  Speaker 2: fired up. But while that's all going on, I want
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  Speaker 2: to note, Clay, the French riots are also just spiraling
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  Speaker 2: completely out of control. The interior minister there, kind of
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  Speaker 2: like their DHS secretary equivalent, I would say. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's rough equivalent, but the interior minister offered to resign
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  Speaker 2: because he said, look, our cops, the police, the security
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  Speaker 2: forces have just completely lost control in these areas. They're
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  Speaker 2: not even pretending. Macron, Emmanuel Macron, the president, has said, no.
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  Speaker 1: No, don't resign.
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  Speaker 2: Trump is now weaving into this that this is not
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  Speaker 2: just about Democrats. This is about which party stands with
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  Speaker 2: Western civilization, which party stands with the most core and
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  Speaker 2: fundamental values of our society, not just now, but for centuries,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps for millennia.
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  Speaker 1: This is cut one. Trump and Kansas hit it.
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  Speaker 4: The Democrat agenda is a plan to extinguish Western civilization.
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  Speaker 4: They want to open the borders. They want to, to me,
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  Speaker 4: the biggest sin. The inflation, we've got it cooked. The inflation,
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  Speaker 4: once that oil comes down, that'll be the final straw.
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  Speaker 4: But the inflation, the worst thing they did to us
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  Speaker 4: is allowing 25 million people into our country, totally unchecked,
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  Speaker 4: totally unvetted. We've gotten most of them out. We're getting
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  Speaker 4: the rest of them out very soon. They want to
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  Speaker 4: shut down our power plants. They want to set loose
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  Speaker 4: the criminals, turn your children transgender, confiscate your money, and
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  Speaker 4: raise up the Palestinian flag right in the middle of
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  Speaker 4: your wonderful state. And at the same time, they're willing
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  Speaker 4: to defile our great and very beautiful American flag.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to let that happen.
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian flag while they defile our American flag, Clay. That
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  Speaker 2: plays well in Kansas, I can tell you.
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  Speaker 3: I am very confident, Buck, as we sit here two
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  Speaker 3: weeks away. There's no way. And again, everybody should go vote.
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  Speaker 3: I have already voted. Have you voted yet, Buck? I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to lecture you until you get out.
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  Speaker 1: It's been 24 hours, buddy. It's early voting. Settle down.
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  Speaker 3: I want you to send an important message to this
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  Speaker 3: audience by getting out and voting as early as possible.
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  Speaker 2: I will tell you, Kerry and I already discussed. We
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  Speaker 2: want to go together. So we discuss what day this week.
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  Speaker 2: But we are going to early vote for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Early vote numbers already coming in. And I feel very
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  Speaker 3: good about Kansas, about Iowa. about nebraska where they've tried
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  Speaker 3: to expand the battleground you and i are in agreement
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  Speaker 3: i will be very surprised if we don't see ken
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  Speaker 3: paxton win in texas i think talarico is plummeting um
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  Speaker 3: the fact that he vanished from the campaign trail for
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  Speaker 3: nearly two weeks obviously not ideal for his overall uh.
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  Speaker 1: He just had a cold it was just a cold.
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  Speaker 3: Um Again, Ohio, there was a poll that came out
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  Speaker 3: that showed Husted up. That one's going to be very close. Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: But I am confident increasingly in red states. And I
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  Speaker 3: will say, Buck, that I do think we need to
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  Speaker 3: talk more about the decoy Dan situation in Alaska.
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  Speaker 2: That one worries me a little bit, too, because it's
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  Speaker 2: so hard. How do you gauge that? All the polls,
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff you're looking at. So, well, how many
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  Speaker 2: people are going to be confused on Election Day? How
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  Speaker 2: do you I don't know how you get it.
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  Speaker 3: So dirty what they are doing in Alaska. And it's
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  Speaker 3: not getting as much attention because it's Alaska. I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 3: there's not as much media up there. There's not as
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  Speaker 3: much covering of that incident. The fact that they named
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  Speaker 3: a guy, that they got a guy on the ballot
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  Speaker 3: with the same name, and they know it's going to
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  Speaker 3: come down to potentially a few thousand votes in Alaska.
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  Speaker 3: It could be the situation that the Senate majority comes
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  Speaker 3: down to how many Alaskans accidentally vote for the wrong guy.
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  Speaker 3: It's just such a colossally dirty move. And if Democrats,
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  Speaker 3: if Republicans did it, it's all you would hear about.
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  Speaker 3: It would be in the news everywhere. And instead, this
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  Speaker 3: is this is just, I think, frankly, unacceptable. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: did you see that Trump called out? We talked about
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  Speaker 3: this on the program. One of our callers called in
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  Speaker 3: who was a doctor and said the way that Abdul
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  Speaker 3: El-Sayed has been describing himself is inaccurate. Trump went after
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  Speaker 3: him pretty aggressively. This is cut to saying that he's
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  Speaker 3: not actually a doctor. He's a fake doctor. Again, if
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  Speaker 3: you're going to go after Katie Zachariah over not passing
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  Speaker 3: the bar exam, remember, I give credit to one of
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  Speaker 3: our callers who was a doctor called in. said the
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  Speaker 3: fact that Abdul El-Sayed has been saying for years that
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  Speaker 3: he never did a residency, he can't treat patients, that
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  Speaker 3: he is in some way a doctor. Cut to, listen
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  Speaker 3: to this.
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  Speaker 4: Abdul Mohammed El-Sayed, you think, a fake doctor. He's a
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  Speaker 4: fake doctor. By the way, if he were using those
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  Speaker 4: credentials as a Republican, he would have been run out
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  Speaker 4: of the country by now.
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  Speaker 1: He's a fake doctor. But you know.
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  Speaker 4: They think they're doing well, but they have no idea
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  Speaker 4: of the giant they have awoken and unleashed. It's this
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  Speaker 4: giant right here all over the country.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with him, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: There is, well, as we always say, Republicans get tired.
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  Speaker 2: Conservatives get tired about pointing out the double standards that
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  Speaker 2: exist in our society for Democrats and liberals, where we
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  Speaker 2: have standards and they don't. So our standards get used
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  Speaker 2: against us. That absolutely would be a huge thing if
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  Speaker 2: he were a Republican. And you say, well, what does
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  Speaker 2: that mean? Trump's talking about it. Yeah, it would be
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  Speaker 2: New York Times articles about it. It would be late-night
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  Speaker 2: TV jokes made about it. It would be a huge thing.
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  Speaker 2: They would flood the zone with he's a fake doctor.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought people were pretty– Pretty harsh on Katie
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  Speaker 2: Zachariah about that situation, considering she did go to law school.
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  Speaker 1: She did have a J.D.
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  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, the the standard for somebody to be a senator
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  Speaker 2: should be, if.
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  Speaker 1: Anything, even higher.
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  Speaker 3: Way, way higher.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Even, you know, you're writing laws. You're not just a spokesperson.
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  Speaker 2: Not that it's just a spokesperson. It's a big job.
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  Speaker 2: But you get what I'm saying. So I think I
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  Speaker 2: think there's that. And by the way, Trump actually leading
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  Speaker 2: into this one, too. The Mohammed middle name situation. This
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  Speaker 2: is cut three.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: The Democrats are the party of Abdul Mohammed Al Sayyad.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he got very upset because I called him Mohammed.
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  Speaker 4: I just felt like it. Somebody said, how did you
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  Speaker 4: do that? I said, I'm the president. I can call
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  Speaker 4: him whatever the hell I want. And then they sent
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  Speaker 4: me his full name. And actually, his middle name is Mohammed.
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  Speaker 4: You can believe it. One good thing, if you call
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  Speaker 4: somebody from that part of the world Mohammed, you're about 65%
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  Speaker 4: sure to get it right. So if you have any
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  Speaker 4: problem with names, just call the guy Mohammed, you'll probably
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  Speaker 4: be right. And he's an arrogant guy. I see him
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  Speaker 4: being interviewed. I'm a lot nicer than him. I see
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  Speaker 4: him being interviewed. All right, you have to ask that question.
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  Speaker 4: But your sister is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
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  Speaker 1: How dare you?
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  Speaker 4: Turns out she is.
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  Speaker 1: He is too, by the way. And so is the mother.
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  Speaker 2: Clay, can we just... everyone just soak it in. You
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  Speaker 2: will never have a president this entertaining again, the rest
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  Speaker 2: of your life.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not going to happen. So just take it
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  Speaker 2: in right now. This guy is a phenom on this,
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  Speaker 2: on the trail. Here's what I would say. I love
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  Speaker 2: Mike Rogers. If Trump were running against Abdul El-Sayed, he
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  Speaker 2: would win by multiple points in Michigan as a, as
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  Speaker 2: a candidate. One of the things we were just talking
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  Speaker 2: about is in the show. And I think it's something
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  Speaker 2: that many of you can take as a lesson going forward.
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  Speaker 2: oftentimes the most entertaining candidate wins. And you can define
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  Speaker 2: entertaining in a broad way, but in terms of grabbing attention,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of saying things that make people take note, Buck,
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  Speaker 2: we live in such an attention economy now that making
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  Speaker 2: people aware.
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  Speaker 3: Of things is so hard. I used to think about
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  Speaker 3: of the biggest battles that any politician has. And I
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  Speaker 3: think Mike Rogers is so folksy and so down home
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  Speaker 3: and so frankly normal Michigan that a lot of normal
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  Speaker 3: Michiganders don't know about him. And that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: big challenges why I think Trump coming in and throwing
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  Speaker 3: haymakers there can help because in some ways, by defining
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  Speaker 3: Abdul El-Sayed, you are making people aware that they have
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  Speaker 3: a choice to make. And if I were Mike Rogers,
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  Speaker 3: Clay and Buck have your back. Welcome back in, Clay
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  Speaker 3: and Buck. We've got an update for you on Enos Cantor.
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  Speaker 3: He did a sit-down with me a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: I think we, I don't know if we stood, did
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  Speaker 3: we ever play that audio on the show? I can't
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  Speaker 3: even remember if we did or not. Producer Ali says
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  Speaker 3: we did. That was a great interview. It's up on
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  Speaker 3: the Clay and Buck YouTube page. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate all of you that are watching on YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: Christmas music. Now we're getting dunked on by bird feeders.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: I would think if we put Christmas music and bird
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: feeder together, just an idea for everybody, in December we
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: may have the most popular YouTube channel on the planet.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with getting smoked by the birth of
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: baby Jesus, Clay. There's no shame in that.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: That's okay.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: The music about the birth of baby Jesus. When we
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: come back, by the way, I will give you an update.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: The WNBA has a statement on Enos Cantor and Royce
• 17:48
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  Speaker 3: you will be entertained, I promise. But in the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back into clay and box.
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  Speaker 2: So we both think Michigan, Michigan got to know how
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: to say the state.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: It's important. You will speak.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: If you're going to be on radio, Michigan is absolutely critical,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: not just as a contest, but also I think as
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: an indicator of, Of what's really happening in this midterm election,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: which is underway.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: We are in the midterm right now. We have to.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Put that i think correctly election day is a few
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: weeks away we won't know the results yet but the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: midterm election is happening right now clay already voted because
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: he's so he's such a good civic citizen buck is
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: 24 hours later than clay.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: So i'm just saying if messaging is important one of
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: us cares about messaging and citizenship and the other is
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: just a little bit of a slacker i'm just.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Going to say. I might as well be Canadian at
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: this point.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: To be fair, you might not be able to drive
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: from your house to the voting booth in time, given
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: your slow rate of speed, and be able to do the.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Show, too. Are you hearing this? This artillery barrage that
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: came out of nowhere?
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I thought we were fighting on the same side here,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: but then the friendly fire just rains down from nowhere.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Voting late, driving slow. It's harsh. It's harsh.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: But the slow driving, hey, I'll take it any time,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: any day of the week. We are both going to
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: be early voters. That I can promise you guys. And
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you should be early voters, too. And Clay is right.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Get out there and do it soon. Here's the thing.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Even if you're somebody who's going to tell me if
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I got hit by a bus, I would crawl, okay?
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Instead of crawling to the hospital, I would crawl to
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the voting booth. I promise you I'll vote on voting.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: The way this works is in the critical states, they
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the more you bank early, it's an advantage because then
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: the get out the vote effort can be more targeted
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: toward lower propensity voters. You listening to the show are
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly the opposite of a low propensity voter. OK, you're
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you're the you're the gimme that that a lot of
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: these candidates are going to be counting on. You better
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: make sure you actually give it to them, though. But
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the sooner you vote, some of the slackers out there
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: who wait a whole two days maybe to vote early,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: some of the slackers out there will be more likely
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to get their vote targeted by the get-out-the-vote effort. So
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: that's why it's important. Let's talk about Michigan here for
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a second, a couple things. First of all, Clay, I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: know you played this yesterday. Alyssa Slotkin.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: This is important, I think.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: She is giving you a vision of the future with
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: what she said. Remember, yesterday was she claimed she wanted
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: people to be so scared of prosecution for working for
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Trump that they would never want to go and work
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: for a future Trump-like administration. Essentially, lawfare. Just wants to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: use lawfare. Lawfare is on the ballot. Now, I will
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: say one fair, perhaps, criticism. And this is always the
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: thing with Trump. People act like he's this bare knuckle
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: brawler and you never know when he's just going to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: fly off the handle and he's a loose cannon with
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: all this stuff. They try to put him in prison.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden was was grinning when he was aware of
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: his surroundings and happy when people were talking about how
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Trump was going to go to prison. OK, not just
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: lose the election, go to prison. Who has been the target?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: of Trump lawfare, exactly. Who has been, and you might say, oh,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: but what about Comey or something? Yeah, it got tossed.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Where is the effort to do the things that were
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: done to Trump to the other side? I'm going to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: tell you, it hasn't really, certainly not on that scale,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: it hasn't really happened. Now, you can say, well, that's
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: because we have principles. You could also say, the other
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: side just plays rougher.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: They fight dirtier. How do you feel about that?
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: No, I think you're 100% right about this. In fact,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: you can go back to Trump 2016 and When as
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: soon as he was in office, Trump basically said, I'm
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: just going to give Hillary a pass. Trump talks tough,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: but actually when he enters the White House is surprisingly,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I think to many people, kind to the vanquished foes
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: of his regime. And look, I mean, even people can
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: point and they say, OK, Bolton. Bolton, that investigation was
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: initiated by the Biden administration. And he pled guilty.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: He didn't even go to trial on this. I'll take
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: a little bit of heat on this one. Just to
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: be totally honest with you guys, I was going to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: be very transparent. I thought at first I go, oh, God, Bolton, Trump, Trump,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: you know, doesn't like him.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: And he took, you know, there's something there. But what
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: he did was outrageous.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: What he did, I would expect to go to, you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to go prosecute it if I had done that. You
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: can't take notes from top secret meetings for your book
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that you're keeping at home. And the whole thing was
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: it was like the Hillary thing.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Black letter law violated. Absolutely.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And I was initially thinking maybe that was maybe Trump
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: was playing a little rough or the Trump DOJ was
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: playing a little rough with Bolton. No, that was absolutely legit.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: There was nothing there other than the administration of justice.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Amen. Now, some people might point to Ilhan Omar, which
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: is currently the investigation underway. I think she's going to
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: get charged. But, Buck, we should get Miranda Devine on
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: to talk about this because she wrote about this for
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: years ago in the New York Post. They already have
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: done DNA analysis somehow and determined that the guy that
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: she married was 99.89% likely to be her brother. So
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: that is pretty clear-cut fraud. If you marry your brother
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: for citizenship purposes and we have evidence of it, that's
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: not a difficult case to prove.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is a very important distinction, and they
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: love to muddy this up, so you have to always
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: keep this in mind, everyone. Lawfare is the bad faith usage,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: weaponization of law against a person you don't like, usually
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: in this case for political reasons, knowing that they didn't
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: really do anything worthy of prosecution.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: That's lawfare.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Lawfare is not... You broke the law. You happen to
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: be in the opposition party. You happen to be someone
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Trump doesn't like. And now you're being prosecuted because the
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: if you don't do that, you actually have kind of
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: an opposite effect of.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: So none of Trump's political enemies can be prosecuted. None
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of Trump's. So what does that mean?
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: You know, if you had some Democrat senator who Ted
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Kennedy style got drunk and drowned some woman in the
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: back of the car, which was a thing that happened.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: They just can't be prosecuted because, oh, that would look like– no,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: that's not lawfare. That's the law. And to your point
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: about Ilhan Omar, Clay, if she used fraud to attain
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: legal status in the United States– that legal status is
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: invalid and can be removed.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: And people may not like that, but that's reality. That
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: is the law. Totally.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: And again, maybe we can get Miranda Devine on to
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: talk about this because that is not a complicated case. Now,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I said earlier today on Fox News right before we
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: came on that I think Ilhan Omar is going to
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: be charged. The challenge is going to be, Buck, can
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: they get a conviction? And we have seen this before
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: because she's likely to, if the charging happens in Washington, D.C.,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: where they have done the searches and the warrants and
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: everything else, I think it's almost impossible to get her
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: convicted in Washington, D.C. If they charge in Minnesota, it's
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: still going to be a challenge, but I think it's
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: a better chance of getting a conviction there because maybe
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you can get a reasonable jury pool there. So all
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: of this, I think, factors in in a significant way.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: um to let's play that cut by the way because
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: i do think they rolled it over i think do
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: we play it yesterday i can't remember i think we
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: did uh but here is senator slotkin for those of
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: you who did not hear this remember this is supposed
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: to be buck the moderate senator from michigan she barely
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: beat mike rogers in 2024 it was super close uh
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: to um To him winning. She ran 100 percent as
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: a moderate. And she is saying if your 22 year
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: old goes to work for Republicans, she wants them to
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: fear that they might be charged with a crime just
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: based on whom they're working for. Listen to this.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: I want to look at these signature cases and not
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: just focus on the president, but on the people who
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: enabled him. I want young people coming out of school
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: to say, should I go work for the Trump administration?
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: Like, that sounds fun.
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: I might get an opportunity. I want them to be like, Lord,
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: that might be buying myself a ton of problems that
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: I don't want. And so let me avoid participating in that.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: I want that deterrence message.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: OK, but this really is insane. And this should be
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: talked about way more. You and I have been fortunately
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: in the West Wing several times. I know a lot
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: of people focus on the big names, the older people
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: who have significant jobs. For those of you who don't know,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of 22 and 23 and 24-year-old, I'll
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: call them kids, super young people who are working in
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: the West Wing, recent college graduates. Imagine, for all the
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: parents and grandparents out there, how much pride you would
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: have in your son or daughter, grandson or granddaughter, If
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: they were working in the West Wing, by the way,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of these people not in super political jobs. Buck,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you know this. We were sitting in the West Wing
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks ago. I won't name her,
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: but there is a young University of Georgia grad who
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: works the desk at the West Wing. Super kind, super,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: super good at her job. She's just a kid, just
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: a recent college graduate. There are lots of those people
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: in the White House. And you're saying as a sitting
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: United States senator that you want these 22-year-olds working in
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: the Trump White House to be afraid to take those jobs?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: You want to target them with prosecutions? Buck, this is why, unfortunately,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I think Trump is going to have to give pardons
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: to thousands of people. I mean this honestly. He's kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: of joked about it, that if you came within 100
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: yards of the West Wing, that he's going to basically
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: have to give you a pardon. What are we talking?
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: about when we're talking about charging 22-year-olds? Remember, they got
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Walt Nada, who's a great assistant of the president, for
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: moving boxes at Mar-a-Lago and tried to put him in
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: prison for years. Federal charges. A lot of the big
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: focus goes on the big names. They're basically telling you, hey,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: if you make $ 50, 000 a year or $ 40, 000 a year
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: working in the Trump administration, we're coming after you too.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get too far ahead with the
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: 28th discussion because that's already happening a lot. And we
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: didn't even talk about Kamala yesterday, Clay. We got to
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: hit that today, I might add.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, for The View.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Remember, there was a Kamala discussion to be had on
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: The View. So we'll get to that later because that
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: was something left in the cutting room floor. I just
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: would point out that Well, my prediction for 28 here, Clay,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: is if there are broad scale pardons from Trump, a Democrat,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: if a Democrat wins in 28, which could very well happen,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: a Democrat will challenge some of them, ignore some of
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: them and bring charges anyway and take it up to
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the Supreme Court. Because I do think you're going to
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: have a problem with. You can't be you can't have
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a White House where it's anybody who worked for me
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: is is cleared of all federal culpability for all things.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: When I'm done, you can't have that. So it have
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: to be tighter than that. And how tight it is,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: I think, will be up for now. You might say, well,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: buck the Constitution, the pardon powers, absolute all this stuff. Yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: but they might bring it. They might bring the charges anyway.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: They'll certainly bring the investigations. So they're going to do it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: The Trump team has not actually done that. They have
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: not done lawfare. Some might argue they haven't even done
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: aggressive law. You know, it's a different thing. They've been
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: very gentle with some of what happened. So something to
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: look at and talk about more as we get into this.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back in, Clay and Buck. We are rolling through
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  Speaker 3: some fun here. I'll also dive into another ridiculous story
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: about the WNBA. uh in a moment but first we
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: got a bunch of talkbacks and let's just say buck
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: bragging about going to home depot for the first time
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: ever has not been well received by the american public.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: You know not not everyone has the manliness and the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: testosterone to just walk into home depot and be like
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: excuse me sir do you have outdoor potting soil there
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: you go.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I uh am in new york city for the day
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and um I was thinking to myself, I should probably
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: just go to the Home Depot and do some footage
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: since Buck claimed.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Wow, you're going to troll me from Home Depot, Clay, really?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Claimed there was no Home Depot in New York City,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: so how could he have ever been? Also, hey, you
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: just go into an apartment building and go trick-or-treating. That's
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: what we do in New York. Dan in Oregon. And, well,
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: just listen. This is Dan from Oregon.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: I don't want to blow your mind, but there's also
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: a store called Lowe's, just like a A Home Depot,
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: so boy, that might really blow your mind.
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  Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Been going to Home Depot.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Since I was like 12.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: I'm now 62.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: That's just amazing to me. All right, Dan in Oregon.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Can I ask a real question? Is Lowe's... like a
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: more budget-friendly Home Depot, or is it the same?
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I think Lowe's would be the uppity version of Home Depot.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's the other way.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Lowe's is a little more frou-frou. Yeah, it's a little
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: bit more frou-frou. It's a little bit like Target to Walmart.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: If your tool belt sits on your hips on your
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: designer jeans, maybe you go to Lowe's.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Is that how it goes?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I actually think Lowe's would be a little bit more
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: your speed, not to judge you. Steven in Washington, 1090
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  Speaker 3: The Patriot Radio.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: As I recall, Buck, you don't need to go to
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: the Home Depot because your father-in-law goes there for you
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  Speaker 5: and fixes everything in your house.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I forget that you guys listen and remember. I will.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: That is true, by the way. He does, actually.
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  Speaker 3: Not to defend Buck. My father-in-law also comes to my
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: house and fixes things. To be fair, my dad doesn't
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: know how to fix anything either. Happy birthday, by the way,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: to my dad, who turned 82 this past weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Happy birthday.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Adam in Wisconsin, cut C.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, good afternoon, guys. Buck, the first time you went
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: to Home Depot, you bought bags of potting soil. I
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: sent my wife to Home Depot to get the potting soil.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: You still haven't really been there. You certainly didn't do
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: anything manly there. And if I were in charge, I
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: would also revoke your man card. Try again, honey.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I got dirt, actual dirt, under my fingernails, and you're
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: telling me that it's not manly?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: What world are we living in? It looked like I
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: had been rummaging around in the mud.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Is the dirt for plants that you're going to put
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: on the patio of your condo in Miami?
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, yes. I think there's probably some people out there
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: that would say dirt on condos in Miami is not
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: exactly the real dirt.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Category i mean yeah i'm sorry i'm not planning the
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: sorghum crop for next year okay i'm not a farmer
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: but i i there's dirt under my fingernails i feel
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: like i was i was experimenting i was trying out
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: different trowels i've never even held a trowel before i
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: own a trowel
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Now i don't even know what a trowel is uh
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: when we come back the wnba they don't know what
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: a woman is but they say they know what a
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: man is we'll discuss next