Latest / The Mark Belling Podcast / Mark Belling Podcast #81: Democrat silence aids DPI/Underly coverup of Wisconsin teacher sex abuse scandal, New York elects a Communist Mayor and the Democrats are happy (because they are Communists too) and a Milwaukee jury rightly acquits a firefighter and his brother who beat up a home invader.
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- 0:24Speaker 2: Sometimes history repeats itself. There's a story in the news
- 0:29Speaker 2: in Wisconsin right now that, like the earlier story. As
- 0:35Speaker 2: I said, this is a story that's repeating itself. There's
- 0:38Speaker 2: a lot of similarities in the way people have wanted
- 0:42Speaker 2: to look the other way and pretend that they're not
- 0:45Speaker 2: seeing what they're seeing. The same thing happened several decades ago.
- 0:53Speaker 2: When you got reports they were scattered one here, one
- 0:56Speaker 2: way over there of Roman Catholic priests messing her with kids,
- 1:00Speaker 2: mostly boys, and there were just a lot of people
- 1:04Speaker 2: who wanted to look the other way. The former Milwaukee
- 1:06Speaker 2: County District Attorney Mike McCann consulted with the Milwaukee Archdiocese
- 1:14Speaker 2: and he famously advised, take care of it, no need
- 1:18Speaker 2: to bring criminal charges, etc. This was going on all
- 1:23Speaker 2: over the country. Bishops and cardinals and the Catholic Church
- 1:27Speaker 2: were well, let's work with the person. The person could repent.
- 1:32Speaker 2: We believe in repentance and forgiveness. The person's had problems,
- 1:38Speaker 2: the family doesn't want anything to go public, and even
- 1:42Speaker 2: though these reports were coming in, there were a whole
- 1:44Speaker 2: lot of people who looked the other way and simply
- 1:48Speaker 2: didn't want to acknowledge that it was going on. And
- 1:52Speaker 2: we see what the result of that was. We lost
- 1:55Speaker 2: twenty to twenty five years in addressing the problem, and
- 1:59Speaker 2: the Catholic Church ended up with a massive hit to
- 2:03Speaker 2: its credibility. Then everything blew up and the situation has
- 2:07Speaker 2: been largely resolved. You hear about these types of cases
- 2:11Speaker 2: almost never anymore, but in the process, the church had
- 2:18Speaker 2: its reputation damaged, the story repeating itself. It is just
- 2:24Speaker 2: clear to me, with all of these cases that we
- 2:27Speaker 2: have and now the report that came out of the
- 2:29Speaker 2: cap Times of Madison, that we have a crisis in
- 2:33Speaker 2: Wisconsin of way more perverted teachers than we imagined in
- 2:41Speaker 2: the same fashion that we go back forty to fifty
- 2:44Speaker 2: years that was going on in the Catholic Church. Every
- 2:46Speaker 2: indication that this is being covered up, with the chief
- 2:50Speaker 2: cover upper being Jill Underly, the head of the Wisconsin
- 2:54Speaker 2: Department of Public Instruction, We're going to attempt to lift
- 2:58Speaker 2: the veil on this storm and talk about its political
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- 3:41Speaker 2: Republican candidate for governor Washington County Executive, held a video
- 3:46Speaker 2: conference today, once again drawing attention to his call for
- 3:49Speaker 2: Jill Underlead to resign as head of the Department of
- 3:51Speaker 2: Public Instruction. Underley, who skipped out on a legislative hearing
- 3:55Speaker 2: attempting to get some answers as to why DPI has
- 3:58Speaker 2: been caught covering up one hundreds of cases of inappropriate
- 4:03Speaker 2: behavior and grooming by teachers in public schools, is now
- 4:08Speaker 2: finally agreeing to testify at a hearing. In addition to
- 4:12Speaker 2: showman running for governor calling for Underleay's resignation, Tom Tiffany
- 4:18Speaker 2: Republican candidate for governor is calling on Tony Evers to
- 4:21Speaker 2: demand Underleay's resignation. Nobody can force her to resign because
- 4:27Speaker 2: she's an elected official. She doesn't have a boss. She
- 4:30Speaker 2: is the boss. She can't be recalled from office until
- 4:35Speaker 2: April of next year. You can't recall someone until one
- 4:38Speaker 2: year after their last election, and she was re elected
- 4:41Speaker 2: in April. The only thing that can happen is that
- 4:45Speaker 2: people can raise their voices and demand that she leave,
- 4:49Speaker 2: and then I think demand that whoever her successor is,
- 4:52Speaker 2: it would be filled by appointment clean house. At the
- 4:55Speaker 2: top of DPI, I mentioned the story from the Cap Times.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Cap Times used to be a newspaper. It's now an
- 5:02Speaker 2: insert and a website, very leftist news organization from Madison.
- 5:09Speaker 2: They did a major investigation. They spent spent a year
- 5:14Speaker 2: on this and released it a week and a half ago.
- 5:19Speaker 2: The headline was two hundred teacher sexual misconduct grooming cases
- 5:23Speaker 2: shielded from public. The story that was reported by Danielle Decloue.
- 5:28Speaker 2: I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. They went through records
- 5:35Speaker 2: that had been shielded from the public, and they found
- 5:39Speaker 2: a staggering number of cases of teachers that were investigated
- 5:45Speaker 2: by the Department of Public Instruction for various instances of
- 5:49Speaker 2: alleged misconduct. We all know about the cases that result
- 5:53Speaker 2: in criminal charges, where there's sexual activity that occurs and
- 5:56Speaker 2: so on, but it's all the ones in between that
- 5:59Speaker 2: are kind of the here where complaints were brought to
- 6:02Speaker 2: attention of the state. DPI is in charge of licensing
- 6:07Speaker 2: teachers in Wisconsin. You can't teach in Wisconsin of the license,
- 6:12Speaker 2: and DPI, according to this report, almost never revoked licenses,
- 6:19Speaker 2: and even when it did, it did not disclose to
- 6:23Speaker 2: the public the reason the license was revoked. This is
- 6:26Speaker 2: unique to all the other entities that are licensed in Wisconsin.
- 6:31Speaker 2: For example, if you have your plumbing license revoked, it
- 6:33Speaker 2: states in the record this is the reason they revoked
- 6:35Speaker 2: the plumbing license. Shoddy work or they did they ripped
- 6:37Speaker 2: off some of whatever it is. The story also indicates
- 6:46Speaker 2: that there were numerous instances the DPI allowed the local
- 6:50Speaker 2: school district to simply accept the resignation of the teacher,
- 6:56Speaker 2: but then because the teacher's license was not revoked, the
- 6:59Speaker 2: teacher went and got hired at another district that had
- 7:02Speaker 2: no knowledge of what went on. Again, the echoes of
- 7:10Speaker 2: the scandal that occurred in the Catholic Church are just there.
- 7:16Speaker 2: This brings us to the question of why is DPI
- 7:19Speaker 2: soft on this behavior. Well, I have my theory. The
- 7:26Speaker 2: Department of Public Instruction leader, and you can go back
- 7:30Speaker 2: decades on this is always somebody that the Teachers' Union wants.
- 7:34Speaker 2: The Department of Public Instruction election, which is held in
- 7:37Speaker 2: the spring four year terms generally as low profile. There's
- 7:41Speaker 2: only one special interest group that cares a lot who wins,
- 7:43Speaker 2: and that's the teachers' unions. So they bank roll a
- 7:47Speaker 2: candidate that's always a leftist. So the candidate that gets
- 7:50Speaker 2: in realizes, I'm the head of DPI because I had
- 7:53Speaker 2: the backing of the teachers Union, and as a result
- 7:55Speaker 2: of that, DPI simply does not regulate at all rappy teachers,
- 8:01Speaker 2: never mind sex abuse, in grooming, et cetera. I mean,
- 8:05Speaker 2: any type of crappy teacher. There's no standards for them whatsoever.
- 8:10Speaker 2: It's almost impossible to lose your teaching license in Wisconsin.
- 8:14Speaker 2: So the nanity that's supposed to be regulating here didn't
- 8:18Speaker 2: regulate because the Teachers' Union is set up to protect
- 8:21Speaker 2: the worst of the teachers. If you're a very very
- 8:24Speaker 2: good teacher, you don't need the union to protect you.
- 8:26Speaker 2: You're going to be in demand and so on. But
- 8:28Speaker 2: the bad ones require this. I'm on to quote the
- 8:34Speaker 2: camp Time story if your printed out is twenty printed
- 8:37Speaker 2: pages long, and obviously I can't read it here, but
- 8:40Speaker 2: they've got some interesting points that I want to raise
- 8:42Speaker 2: it you. Long investigation with the cap Times found the
- 8:44Speaker 2: State Department of Public Instruction investigated more than two hundred
- 8:47Speaker 2: Wisconsin teachers, aids, substitutes, and administrators from twenty eighteen to
- 8:51Speaker 2: twenty twenty three who were accused of sexual misconduct or
- 8:54Speaker 2: grooming behaviors towards students. Information previously unknown of the public.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Let me interject, the actual number of courses way higher.
- 9:02Speaker 2: These are simply the cases that we know about. Think
- 9:04Speaker 2: about the number of cases in which a parent finds
- 9:06Speaker 2: out that their kids have been messed around with with
- 9:08Speaker 2: the teacher, and they just pulled the cat out of
- 9:11Speaker 2: the school. They don't say anything that they don't want
- 9:12Speaker 2: the kid to be in the cross, et cetera. Probably
- 9:15Speaker 2: way more but two hundred of these got DPI and
- 9:18Speaker 2: they covered up. Continued the Department's internal records show these
- 9:21Speaker 2: allegations included educators sexually assaulting students, soliciting nude photos and children,
- 9:26Speaker 2: or initiating sexual relationships immediately after students graduated. Licensing officials
- 9:32Speaker 2: also investigated educators accus accused of grooming behaviors like flirting
- 9:36Speaker 2: with children, spending non school time alone and isolated with students,
- 9:39Speaker 2: or invading students' personal space by rubbing their shoulders, thighs,
- 9:42Speaker 2: and luwerbacks. Child sexual abuse prevention advocates and researchers say
- 9:46Speaker 2: these behaviors have lasting psychological impact effects on children, making
- 9:50Speaker 2: it harder for them to succeed in school in a
- 9:52Speaker 2: healthy relationships. The Captimes interviewed seven top seven academics and
- 9:56Speaker 2: advocates about how the DPI invent instigates and documents educator misconduct.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Each said the department's practices are inadequately protecting students. They
- 10:09Speaker 2: quote one paragraph here. Best estimates show one in ten
- 10:14Speaker 2: students experienced sexual misconduct from educators during their K twelve
- 10:18Speaker 2: student schooling, according to a federal report. No, again, that
- 10:22Speaker 2: seems high to me, but it's based on a federal report.
- 10:26Speaker 2: One in ten. Now, maybe that's a broad example of
- 10:29Speaker 2: a teacher. Did you know coach pats a kid on
- 10:32Speaker 2: the butt or something. They're including everything in there, but
- 10:34Speaker 2: let's image, it's one in one hundred In Wisconsin, that
- 10:40Speaker 2: rate would amount to more than ninety three thousand school children.
- 10:43Speaker 2: The cap Times found at least forty four percent of
- 10:46Speaker 2: the Department of Public Instructions over four hundred and fifty
- 10:48Speaker 2: educator license investigations since twenty eighteen have involved a sexual
- 10:53Speaker 2: misconduct or grooming allegation. Think of that forty four percent
- 10:56Speaker 2: of the cases that they investigated on teacher misconduct involves
- 11:00Speaker 2: something pertaining to sexual misconduct. A number of researchers and
- 11:04Speaker 2: advocates sy is likely an undercount in these cases. The
- 11:07Speaker 2: Captimes investigation also found the Department of Public Instruction is
- 11:11Speaker 2: dedicating scant resources to investigate educator misconduct, raising questions about
- 11:16Speaker 2: the quality of its oversight of protection of children. Now again,
- 11:18Speaker 2: i'll interjec. This is because DPI doesn't want to do
- 11:21Speaker 2: oversight of teachers, because Jill Underley is a hack who's
- 11:24Speaker 2: in the bag to the Teachers' union. Without them, she
- 11:27Speaker 2: doesn't have a job. So the thing that they're most
- 11:30Speaker 2: required to do oversea teachers, they don't do it all. Second,
- 11:34Speaker 2: the department, run by state superintend at Jill Underlay, relies
- 11:37Speaker 2: on rudimentary system to track its investigations, obscuring the scale
- 11:40Speaker 2: of misconduct for policymakers in the public. Licensing officials also
- 11:44Speaker 2: allow it. This is the key to me educators under
- 11:47Speaker 2: investigation to forfeit their credentials in exchange for avoiding in
- 11:51Speaker 2: depth probes. In other words, okay, quit and we won't
- 11:55Speaker 2: ask anything else about it continuing. Unlike a different agency
- 11:59Speaker 2: that were great relates hundreds of other state licensed professionals
- 12:02Speaker 2: like nurses and accountants, The DPI doesn't tell the public
- 12:05Speaker 2: why an educator lost their license. Out of four hundred
- 12:09Speaker 2: and sixty one teachers the state investigated from twenty eighteen
- 12:11Speaker 2: to twenty three for all forms of misconduct, two hundred
- 12:14Speaker 2: and seven kept their credentials and continue working in schools
- 12:17Speaker 2: with children. Where are we going with this? We have
- 12:21Speaker 2: an election for governor. As I said, the Republicans have
- 12:26Speaker 2: weighed in. Showman is pounding the table, demanding Underly resign.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Tiffany is almost there. He's you can say, this is
- 12:36Speaker 2: a matter of semantics. He's demanding that. Ever's the governor
- 12:40Speaker 2: demanding that Underlay resign because I guess Evers is the
- 12:45Speaker 2: only guy who's got the position to do so. Where
- 12:47Speaker 2: are the Democrats? Sarah rod Regaez. Do you think Jill
- 12:53Speaker 2: Underlay should resign? Or are you perfectly fine with an
- 12:57Speaker 2: agency that is allowing massive sexual conduct to occur by teachers?
- 13:02Speaker 2: David Crowley, Mendela Barnes, who wants to run for governor,
- 13:07Speaker 2: what do you think about this? This thing is going
- 13:10Speaker 2: to be very problematic for all of these Democratic candidates
- 13:13Speaker 2: because everyone knows the teachers' union is a major, powerful
- 13:19Speaker 2: special interest in democratic politics in Wisconsin. So I'll put
- 13:23Speaker 2: the question to them, what about the teachers' union and
- 13:25Speaker 2: what about the teachers themselves? Do all the rest of
- 13:28Speaker 2: you teachers who aren't perverts want pervert colleagues? If not,
- 13:33Speaker 2: then you should demand that Underlay go. There won't be
- 13:37Speaker 2: an election. Her term isn't up for another three years.
- 13:40Speaker 2: I don't even know what happens in a vacancy of DPI,
- 13:42Speaker 2: but I think that somebody the governor just appoints and
- 13:45Speaker 2: interim until the next election. So it's going to be
- 13:48Speaker 2: another Lefty I wrote a newspaper column. Now I don't
- 14:01Speaker 2: know over twenty five years ago. The people who oversaw
- 14:04Speaker 2: my column along gone. It was in the early stages
- 14:08Speaker 2: of the priest abuse scandal. I wrote a column for
- 14:10Speaker 2: the Walkashaw Framement in which I made a comment about
- 14:14Speaker 2: the seriousness of the This is when the sexual abuse
- 14:16Speaker 2: scandal was just beginning to go public, and the editors
- 14:19Speaker 2: didn't want to publish the column. They thought it was
- 14:21Speaker 2: an attack on religion, and it was anything but that.
- 14:24Speaker 2: I was trying to aid the church in getting people
- 14:27Speaker 2: out of the priesthood who needed to be gotten out.
- 14:31Speaker 2: You see the same thing here, and the Captime story
- 14:34Speaker 2: itself has not really been picked up on picked up
- 14:37Speaker 2: on by many other news organizations, and I haven't seen
- 14:40Speaker 2: a lot of them demand the Jill Underlay resign her position.
- 14:47Speaker 2: This is the worst type of dereliction of the public trust.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Let's turn our attention to another story today. Is I
- 14:59Speaker 2: was going to have a headlined in today's story by
- 15:02Speaker 2: the first story that I just did on the teacher problem,
- 15:05Speaker 2: it would have confused it. So it'll be from this
- 15:07Speaker 2: point forward it's this is the Mark Bellang Soft on
- 15:10Speaker 2: Crime podcast. I'm the one going to be soft on
- 15:14Speaker 2: the crime. I'm going to cite a couple of cases
- 15:17Speaker 2: in which I think people were wrongly charged. The first
- 15:25Speaker 2: this case went to a jury in Milwaukee County this
- 15:27Speaker 2: week and had to do with a Milwaukee firefighter he
- 15:30Speaker 2: had to resign and his brother. They were accused of
- 15:34Speaker 2: assaulting a man in an incident that occurred in twenty
- 15:37Speaker 2: twenty four. Fortunately, the jury found the two not guilty,
- 15:43Speaker 2: and I agree with that. Normally, when somebody's accused of
- 15:46Speaker 2: assault in Milwaukee in a jury, let's him off. I
- 15:48Speaker 2: rolled my eyes. Oh soft juries again not here. Let
- 15:52Speaker 2: me quote from the details on js online. These are brothers.
- 15:59Speaker 2: The last the last names is hyphenate, as you're just following.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Ty Dright Jackson, thirty eight year old former firefighter, and
- 16:05Speaker 2: his brother, Tremmel Dright were found not guilty of all charges.
- 16:10Speaker 2: The jury deliberated about three hours. Prosecutors charged each brother
- 16:15Speaker 2: with first degree reckless battery with substantial battery, first degree
- 16:18Speaker 2: reckless injury with substantial battery. According to the defense attorney,
- 16:25Speaker 2: the brothers were stoutled awake in the middle of the
- 16:27Speaker 2: Ninetecember fourth of twenty twenty four, eleven months ago, after
- 16:31Speaker 2: an intruder broke into Dright's home on the city's near
- 16:33Speaker 2: west side. The intruder, Jalen Nutt, ended the home while everyone,
- 16:38Speaker 2: including Dright's two children, were asleep. Inside the home, Nutt,
- 16:57Speaker 2: that's the guy that broke in, was discovered trying to
- 17:00Speaker 2: enter the master bedroom. The brothers chased the intruder out
- 17:03Speaker 2: of the house into a nearby alley, where a fight
- 17:05Speaker 2: broke out. Video footage obtained by police showed the brothers punching, stomping,
- 17:10Speaker 2: and kicking Not repeatedly. Court records say Not was later
- 17:14Speaker 2: hospitalized and suffered a broken nose, cracked teeth, and facial
- 17:17Speaker 2: injuries that required stitches. So here's the thing. Guy busts
- 17:20Speaker 2: into their house. Two big guys chase him out of
- 17:24Speaker 2: the house, and then once he's out of the house,
- 17:26Speaker 2: beat the crap out of him. So I'm sure the
- 17:28Speaker 2: prosecutors are saying this was not self defense because they
- 17:31Speaker 2: got him out of the house and once they got
- 17:32Speaker 2: up of it, there's no need for the beatdown. I
- 17:37Speaker 2: say to that, this guy broke into a house. There's
- 17:40Speaker 2: little kids in the house. These brothers, in my mind,
- 17:43Speaker 2: are perfectly justified and beating the crap out of the guy.
- 17:47Speaker 2: No Wisconsin doesn't have a stand your ground law, as
- 17:50Speaker 2: the state of Florida does. Some think floors stand your
- 17:54Speaker 2: ground law goes too far in you know, if you
- 17:57Speaker 2: hear somebody scratching around of the house, it gives you
- 18:00Speaker 2: the right to throw fifteen grenades at them and so on.
- 18:04Speaker 2: I think given the circumstances here, the threat that was provoked,
- 18:09Speaker 2: that provoked this is legitimate provocation. And I think the
- 18:15Speaker 2: guy got what he had coming. I now believe that
- 18:18Speaker 2: the Milwaukee fire chiefs, very good fire chief should offer
- 18:22Speaker 2: the one brother it was in his house, he was
- 18:24Speaker 2: in his brother's home. He should offer him his job back.
- 18:27Speaker 2: And I applaud the jury for not convicting these two guys.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Somebody breaks into your house when your daughters are little
- 18:34Speaker 2: in all of that, First of all, I don't think
- 18:36Speaker 2: you could beat anybody up. But if you then beat
- 18:39Speaker 2: the guy up and you chased him out of the house,
- 18:41Speaker 2: do I think you do anything No. I think good
- 18:45Speaker 2: Paul said he's got all baseball bat by his bed,
- 18:48Speaker 2: So I agree with letting the guy off. Now a
- 18:54Speaker 2: story in which I want to make it clear this
- 18:56Speaker 2: is not part of that trend of soft end crime.
- 18:59Speaker 2: This is a story in which very serious criminal behavior
- 19:02Speaker 2: is alleged. This is a crash that occurred last week
- 19:08Speaker 2: Thursday night, November second. The man now charged in Wakshaw's
- 19:12Speaker 2: County Circuit Court is Casey yayanakapla Yian tough one Yayanaicoppolis
- 19:20Speaker 2: casey Yanacoppolis, forty seven. According to the authorities, he crashed
- 19:27Speaker 2: his car into a ditch and then ran off and
- 19:30Speaker 2: hid inside the car. Killed was his passenger, his seventy
- 19:34Speaker 2: seven year old mother. When police got to his house
- 19:38Speaker 2: and they were looking for him, they found him hiding
- 19:40Speaker 2: inside a crawl space inside the house. Somebody else's in
- 19:43Speaker 2: the house helped out and pointed out where he was.
- 19:47Speaker 2: He refused to cooperate with the investigation, including any kind
- 19:50Speaker 2: of drug test, but they did get a coote order
- 19:52Speaker 2: for a blood draw. The story on Fox six's site
- 19:55Speaker 2: says that the results they send those to the crime lab.
- 19:58Speaker 2: I think the crime lab where they send them to.
- 20:00Speaker 2: The results are not in, but they said that he
- 20:04Speaker 2: showed numerous signs of impairment and so on. So who
- 20:07Speaker 2: you have a guy probably intoxicated, drives a car into
- 20:11Speaker 2: a ditch, kills his mother. If it comes back as intoxication.
- 20:20Speaker 2: First of all, he doesn't stay at the scene of
- 20:23Speaker 2: a crash in which his mother, for Heaven's sakes, is dead.
- 20:27Speaker 2: If it chosen signs of intoxication, I think clearly serious
- 20:30Speaker 2: charges have to come into place. I do, however, have
- 20:33Speaker 2: some advice for old yayannakau Ya. I shouldn't even have
- 20:38Speaker 2: to say his last name. Shouldn't be that hardy yanakopolists.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Cross your fingers and hope that your case lands in
- 20:50Speaker 2: the courtroom of Walkershaw County Circuit Judge Scott Wagner, the
- 20:55Speaker 2: guy who, as we reported earlier in the week, gave
- 20:58Speaker 2: only four months to another miscago man, this one who
- 21:03Speaker 2: was driving the wrong way on Moreland Roads super Bowl night,
- 21:07Speaker 2: blasted out of his mind and crashed into a squad
- 21:10Speaker 2: car injuring and a Burlet officer. By the way, I
- 21:13Speaker 2: have contacted the assistant district attorney in Waukershaw County who
- 21:17Speaker 2: handled the case, trying to find out what his sentencing
- 21:20Speaker 2: recommendation in that case was, to see whether or not
- 21:23Speaker 2: the judge simply followed a dopey recommendation from a dumbbell
- 21:28Speaker 2: assistant district attorney, or if the judge had a strong
- 21:31Speaker 2: recommendation for prison and overruled it just because he's a dumbass.
- 21:36Speaker 2: And I have not gotten cooperation or an answer at
- 21:38Speaker 2: this point from the Wakashaw County District Attorney's office. I
- 21:45Speaker 2: did post on X, by the way, earlier in the
- 21:47Speaker 2: week a side by side comparison of the two cases,
- 21:50Speaker 2: in which we talked about a Milwaukee County case in
- 21:53Speaker 2: which the circumstances were almost identical. Another wrong way crash,
- 21:57Speaker 2: this one in Milwaukee County, and it was on I
- 21:58Speaker 2: seven ninety four in which person was injured. That guy
- 22:02Speaker 2: in Milwaukee got three years. I never read comments on
- 22:06Speaker 2: my thing on X, just like I don't read emails
- 22:08Speaker 2: about this. I just don't read them anyway. I did
- 22:10Speaker 2: have some people draw attention though, to me that people say, well,
- 22:13Speaker 2: that's probably because the Milwaukee guy is black. Actually, both
- 22:17Speaker 2: guys are white. The Walker show cases white. The Milwaukee
- 22:20Speaker 2: case was white, so it's not a racial thing where
- 22:22Speaker 2: they got tougher on the black eye. Secondly, people said, well,
- 22:24Speaker 2: what do I bet the one guy's got the stronger
- 22:26Speaker 2: criminal record. Actually, the waker Shaw County guy is a
- 22:29Speaker 2: second time Owy offender, the Milwaukee guy first time offender
- 22:33Speaker 2: for that, So none of that is implat all. Right,
- 22:37Speaker 2: now back to the soft on crime. There's this story
- 22:41Speaker 2: going on in Greenfield. It's been reported by Fox six
- 22:44Speaker 2: in I've heard rumblings on both sides on it. I
- 22:47Speaker 2: don't know what the deal is on police Chief Jay Johnson,
- 22:52Speaker 2: Greenfield's police chief has been suspended with pay for months.
- 22:57Speaker 2: They never said why, other than the allegations of missus.
- 23:01Speaker 2: Apparently he was given the opportunity to resign and he refused.
- 23:07Speaker 2: We now know what the allegation is. He had Greenfield
- 23:15Speaker 2: and by the way, we should mention our radio station
- 23:18Speaker 2: is located in Greenfield, not that that's either here nor there. Anyway,
- 23:21Speaker 2: the police chief had a security camera installed on the
- 23:25Speaker 2: street facing his personal residence and it was installed by Greenfield.
- 23:33Speaker 2: They alleged that that's misconduct, and he's now facing criminal
- 23:37Speaker 2: charges for doing that. The city attorney advised against it.
- 23:43Speaker 2: The story on Fox six indicates that before he became
- 23:46Speaker 2: the chief, there were several personnel investigations on him, and
- 23:48Speaker 2: so what well, if he had all these problems as
- 23:50Speaker 2: a supervisor, why the Fire and Police commission make him
- 23:52Speaker 2: police chief? The fact matter is he's the police chief,
- 23:55Speaker 2: and anything prior to this I think shouldn't come into play,
- 23:58Speaker 2: because they did decide we want to read the chech.
- 24:00Speaker 2: The question now is okay, he tells his people to
- 24:04Speaker 2: put up a security camera facing his house. By the way,
- 24:07Speaker 2: he does not live in Greenfield most of our sub
- 24:10Speaker 2: in fact, hardly anybody has a residency rule anymore. So
- 24:13Speaker 2: he doesn't live in the city of Greenfield. He lives
- 24:15Speaker 2: outside in another municipality. But it was Greenfield to put
- 24:18Speaker 2: up the security camera. No he didn't. Why'd you say,
- 24:24Speaker 2: Let's say, said Greenfield put the camera in? Yeah, And
- 24:27Speaker 2: if I didn't make that clear when I say Greenfield
- 24:30Speaker 2: put the camera and Greenfield paid for the camera, it
- 24:33Speaker 2: wasn't yet. And here's my thought on this. Should a
- 24:38Speaker 2: police chief have a security camera in his home? Does
- 24:40Speaker 2: he have a reason to feel threatened, et cetera. Who
- 24:44Speaker 2: knows they advised him not to do it. These cameras
- 24:48Speaker 2: aren't that expensive. I don't believe he could have put
- 24:51Speaker 2: in his own camera. However, I don't think that's a crime.
- 24:56Speaker 2: I think it's a reason to fire somebody if you
- 24:59Speaker 2: think think it's that serious, or tell him we're going
- 25:03Speaker 2: to fire you if you don't take it down. Instead,
- 25:06Speaker 2: they got into this big to do and he refused
- 25:10Speaker 2: to resign from office over it. Because he refused to
- 25:14Speaker 2: resign from office, they're turning this into criminal behavior. With
- 25:18Speaker 2: all the threats that are going on to public officials
- 25:20Speaker 2: and so on. Have a police chief putting up a
- 25:22Speaker 2: camera on his own house, may or may not be
- 25:25Speaker 2: reasonable or not, and maybe he should have paid for
- 25:27Speaker 2: it or not. But I don't think it's criminal behavior.
- 25:30Speaker 2: I don't think this is something that rises to the
- 25:32Speaker 2: level of a felony. For heaven's sakes, I think there's
- 25:35Speaker 2: obviously now a toxic relationship within the police department in
- 25:39Speaker 2: Greenfield where people in the fire Police Commission are maybe
- 25:41Speaker 2: the city or the mayor's office have it in for
- 25:43Speaker 2: the chief, and the chief thinks that they're trumping up
- 25:45Speaker 2: charges against him. My guess is that he is not
- 25:47Speaker 2: the only police chief in the state of Wisconsin who
- 25:49Speaker 2: has got in his community to put up a security
- 25:51Speaker 2: camera at his home. And again, whether it's good public
- 25:55Speaker 2: policy or not, I just don't think it's a crime. Furthermore,
- 25:59Speaker 2: it wasn't like he's around doing it. He put in
- 26:02Speaker 2: the it was put into the voucher. It was a
- 26:03Speaker 2: city record that it was paid for. It wasn't like
- 26:05Speaker 2: an attempt to embezzle and put in the funds to
- 26:08Speaker 2: do so. It was right there, done by city cruise
- 26:10Speaker 2: and so on. Paul said, it's like him taking a
- 26:16Speaker 2: WISN microphone and using it for some remote with his
- 26:19Speaker 2: band or something or another. Yes, I think they could
- 26:22Speaker 2: should yell at you for that, and if you don't
- 26:23Speaker 2: give the microphobic mc fer, I don't think you should
- 26:25Speaker 2: face to many charges for it. I just think it's
- 26:29Speaker 2: making a big Yeah. That's what's going on here is
- 26:33Speaker 2: that everybody hates each other here, so they're using this
- 26:35Speaker 2: as leverage and try to get him to resign. And
- 26:37Speaker 2: I don't think criminal justice SISIM should be used for that.
- 26:39Speaker 2: And I think this attorney's officer back off of this
- 26:42Speaker 2: and let the lawyers work the damn thing out next.
- 26:46Speaker 2: I am a complete opponent of declaring everything his historic
- 26:50Speaker 2: area or historic preservation status to stop somebody from doing
- 26:53Speaker 2: something to it, but I approve of it here. The
- 26:59Speaker 2: Convention Center Board, the Wisconsin Center District wants to tear
- 27:02Speaker 2: down the useless Miller Highlife Theater that's the old Milwaukee
- 27:06Speaker 2: Auditorium and the very useful UWM Panther Arena formerly the
- 27:12Speaker 2: Milwaukee Arena. The City of Milwaukee's Historic Preservation District is
- 27:18Speaker 2: moving toward giving them historic status, which should make it
- 27:21Speaker 2: hard to tear them down. As I've said, the Auditorium
- 27:27Speaker 2: should never have been renovated. It's hardly ever used for anything.
- 27:30Speaker 2: The Miller I left arena, tear it down. The problem is,
- 27:32Speaker 2: in order to put a hotel there, which is what
- 27:34Speaker 2: the Convention Center District wants, you have to tear down
- 27:36Speaker 2: both buildings. And the arena is used for lots of
- 27:38Speaker 2: things and it is a vital part of the community.
- 27:41Speaker 2: If you lose the arena, you lose the Milwaukee Admirals.
- 27:44Speaker 2: If you lose the arena, you lose the Milwaukee Wave.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Because I don't think you can have a professional soccer
- 27:49Speaker 2: team playing in a I don't even know where you
- 27:51Speaker 2: would find a place big enough for indoor soccer and
- 27:54Speaker 2: all the other events that go on there. UWM basketball
- 27:57Speaker 2: would have to go back to the Klatchy Center. That
- 27:58Speaker 2: arena's used about one hundred nights a year. Furthermore, the
- 28:05Speaker 2: people who use the arena almost entirely are people here
- 28:08Speaker 2: in southeast inn Wisconsin, whereas a hotel is used by
- 28:11Speaker 2: people by definition who aren't from here. Furthermore, I don't
- 28:13Speaker 2: think that there's a market for another one of these hotels.
- 28:16Speaker 2: They've got an empty lot across the street from the
- 28:18Speaker 2: convention center that they've been trying to develop into a
- 28:20Speaker 2: hotel for I'm telling you the truth here thirty years
- 28:22Speaker 2: and they haven't at a developer. So if the only
- 28:25Speaker 2: way we can save the arena is to get the
- 28:27Speaker 2: historic preservation status, even if it means the completely useless
- 28:30Speaker 2: Smugler High Life theater is saved in the process. Did
- 28:33Speaker 2: you follow all of that? Even if you didn't, so
- 28:36Speaker 2: what this is the Mark Belling podcast. This is the
- 28:42Speaker 2: Mark Belling Podcast. Let's talk about the election results. Some
- 28:48Speaker 2: are important, others are not. The governorships of New Jersey
- 28:53Speaker 2: and Virginia. The Democrats won both of them. People are
- 28:56Speaker 2: making a big deal out of this. I think that
- 28:57Speaker 2: this is kind of a zero the these are democratic states.
- 29:01Speaker 2: Trump did not win Virginia and he did not win
- 29:04Speaker 2: New Jersey. So it stands the reason that these states,
- 29:07Speaker 2: both of which, by the way, New Jersey has a
- 29:10Speaker 2: democratic governor Virginia admittedly does not, so that is a flip. However,
- 29:15Speaker 2: the Virginia sick situation is rather unique. Glen Youngkin, the
- 29:19Speaker 2: governor of Virginia, is just Republican, very popular. His popularity
- 29:23Speaker 2: transcends party lines. He was term limited out. He's probably
- 29:27Speaker 2: going to be the only Republican governor of Virginia thirty
- 29:30Speaker 2: years on either side of it. So, I don't think
- 29:32Speaker 2: the fact that two democratic states chose democratic governors is significant.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Here's what is Mamdani As I told you he would
- 29:42Speaker 2: was elected mayor of New York. Mamdanni is a communist.
- 29:46Speaker 2: There is no point in not using the term. His
- 29:49Speaker 2: ideology as identical to the ideology of both American and
- 29:54Speaker 2: non American communists. He calls himself a democratic socialist. Whatever.
- 30:01Speaker 2: We need to understand that this is now the reality
- 30:05Speaker 2: of the Democratic Party in much of Democratic America. Now,
- 30:10Speaker 2: the disconnect in these stories is in New Jersey and Virginia,
- 30:13Speaker 2: the Democrats running were not running on communist principles. They
- 30:16Speaker 2: were running old style Democrats. But in New York Mamdani
- 30:23Speaker 2: didn't do anything to hide it. There should be no billionaires.
- 30:29Speaker 2: I guess that means he in the case of somebody
- 30:32Speaker 2: like Musk, he just confiscates nine hundred billion dollars or
- 30:37Speaker 2: whatever it is and just pocket I don't know, New
- 30:43Speaker 2: York is going to go to hell. Everything ever run
- 30:46Speaker 2: by communists has gone to hell, and I should put
- 30:48Speaker 2: in my asterisk. The Chinese version of communism is not communism.
- 30:53Speaker 2: Communism is an economic system. China practices their version of
- 30:58Speaker 2: state controlled capitalism. They simply still call themselves the Communist Party.
- 31:03Speaker 2: I'm referring to the communism of everywhere else, Russia, Eastern Europe, Cuba, Venezuela,
- 31:09Speaker 2: et cetera. The fact that Mamdani had the support of
- 31:15Speaker 2: most officials in New York and was endorsed by many
- 31:18Speaker 2: Democrats in America. Rebecca Cook, Congress Congress congressional candidate in
- 31:23Speaker 2: western Wisconsin. She's the Republican who likely will win the
- 31:25Speaker 2: primary to run against Derek Van Ordon. She endorsed Mamdani.
- 31:30Speaker 2: This is who the Democrats now are. The Schumers and
- 31:34Speaker 2: Durbans and Baldwin's and the rest of them have ruled
- 31:37Speaker 2: over and ceded the party to the aocs and the
- 31:40Speaker 2: Mamdanis and the other communists. The great threat to America
- 31:51Speaker 2: isn't the Democrats win elections. It's that the Democrats have
- 31:56Speaker 2: become communists and if as a communist nation, we will
- 32:02Speaker 2: die as all other communist nations have. And again I
- 32:05Speaker 2: do not consider China to be traditionally a communist type nation.
- 32:13Speaker 2: One of the challenges for Republicans will be to connect
- 32:17Speaker 2: other Democrats to this ideology, because when they run in
- 32:21Speaker 2: a swing state, you know, communism isn't going to sell
- 32:24Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. It's going to sell with about thirty five
- 32:28Speaker 2: to forty percent of the voters in about eighty five
- 32:30Speaker 2: percent of the Democrats, but the swing voters in between
- 32:32Speaker 2: aren't so candidate for the runs of Wisconsin. As a memory,
- 32:35Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not Mandani. I'm not a communist. That
- 32:39Speaker 2: may work in governor elections. But now at the national level,
- 32:42Speaker 2: as you see via the government shutdown, it's AOC and
- 32:45Speaker 2: the radicals calling all of the shots. New York City
- 32:52Speaker 2: going to hell will be terrible for this country because
- 32:54Speaker 2: it's the most important city in our nation, but the
- 32:59Speaker 2: fact that it will go to hell will be instructive.
- 33:03Speaker 2: One of the things, though, that I think many on
- 33:05Speaker 2: the right don't understand, is a lot of physic. We'll
- 33:07Speaker 2: let them do it and then people will see. Except
- 33:10Speaker 2: they've done it in San Francisco, they've done it in Seattle,
- 33:14Speaker 2: they've done it in Portland, they've done it in Chicago,
- 33:16Speaker 2: and people don't see. They think that somehow they're dopey.
- 33:19Speaker 2: Local democrat isn't the same thing. It doesn't seem to
- 33:24Speaker 2: matter how many times radicalism fails. It doesn't sync in
- 33:31Speaker 2: to people that it's going to fail again. There's a
- 33:35Speaker 2: reason it fails, and we don't have time on today's
- 33:37Speaker 2: podcast to go into all of the reasons. Why. Read
- 33:40Speaker 2: distribution of wealth, confiscating wealth, taking away the profit motive,
- 33:48Speaker 2: don't putting anybody in jail, letting tens of thousands live
- 33:52Speaker 2: on the street, all the stuff Mandani is in favor
- 33:55Speaker 2: of rent control. Does it work? Other than to say,
- 34:02Speaker 2: I can easily prove that it doesn't work, look at
- 34:04Speaker 2: all the times it'sn't tried. It's never worked. Another election,
- 34:12Speaker 2: California passed this referendum to redistrict the state. It means
- 34:18Speaker 2: that five congressional districts think what California is outside of
- 34:23Speaker 2: the big population centers. There's a big chunk of Republican
- 34:27Speaker 2: territory in California. But because California's got so many people
- 34:30Speaker 2: fifty million, they don't win statewide elections. But pretty much
- 34:34Speaker 2: everything not on the coast in California is conservative. Bakersfield,
- 34:38Speaker 2: for example, rather conservative area. That's whe Kevin McCarthy, former
- 34:42Speaker 2: House speaker, that's what he represented, the areas toward Palm Springs,
- 34:47Speaker 2: a little bit, some of the areas outside of San Diego.
- 34:50Speaker 2: And then you get into the what's the name of
- 34:52Speaker 2: the Wine country, san Joaquin Valley, that area outside the
- 34:55Speaker 2: city of Fresno, outside of Sacramento. Those cities are but
- 34:58Speaker 2: outside very republican. And and then the whole northern part
- 35:01Speaker 2: of California above San Francisco republican. So there are a
- 35:06Speaker 2: number of Republican congressional districts in the state. They voted
- 35:10Speaker 2: to withdraw the districts so that all of them get
- 35:13Speaker 2: enough Democrats popped in that the Democrats gained five House seats.
- 35:18Speaker 2: All right, they've done it, and the voters voted to
- 35:20Speaker 2: do it. And I suppose the voters are a republican
- 35:23Speaker 2: state can vote screw up art. For example, there are
- 35:26Speaker 2: any number of states that are overwhelmingly Republican that have
- 35:29Speaker 2: two or three Democratic seats, largely because there's a big
- 35:32Speaker 2: For instance, Tennessee. I don't know if there's a Democratic
- 35:35Speaker 2: Congress from Tennessee, but the city of Nashville is very democratic. Louisiana,
- 35:41Speaker 2: the city of New Orleans very very democratic. Kentucky extremely Republican,
- 35:46Speaker 2: but the city of Lexington and Louisville are very democratic.
- 35:50Speaker 2: Republicans can redraw the distincts in every one of those
- 35:52Speaker 2: states to chop up You could, for example, here in Wisconsin,
- 35:55Speaker 2: chop up the gwn Moore district in Milwaukee, flip it
- 35:58Speaker 2: to a couple of suburban disease. You can do this everywhere.
- 36:02Speaker 2: You notice that this all started when the Democrats lost
- 36:05Speaker 2: their cookies over Texas redrawing their lines to favor Republicans.
- 36:10Speaker 2: If the Democrats are going to do it with five
- 36:12Speaker 2: in California, every Republican state that has a state legislature
- 36:16Speaker 2: there should do the same damn thing. The alternative is
- 36:22Speaker 2: to lose. The media wants to portray the Democrats as
- 36:26Speaker 2: having the high ground here, but they've been spending forever
- 36:29Speaker 2: complaining about jurymandering and states like Wisconsin, So not the California,
- 36:33Speaker 2: but a NUSOMP was the guy that pushed this. Let's
- 36:35Speaker 2: jurymanner the States, so we get all the seats that
- 36:37Speaker 2: we can because we have to do it to stop Trump.
- 36:48Speaker 2: I want to pull out and jury pick out some
- 36:51Speaker 2: of the arguments made from the United States attorney and
- 36:55Speaker 2: the rebuttal to Komy's argument for dismissal. A lot of
- 36:57Speaker 2: words there. James Comey, former fa director, his attorney's a
- 37:01Speaker 2: filed emotion to dismissed the criminal charges against him. The government,
- 37:05Speaker 2: the US Department of Justice, is rebutting that and made
- 37:08Speaker 2: a number of points, and they produced several exhibits. I
- 37:11Speaker 2: want to go through a handful of them because they
- 37:13Speaker 2: demonstrate the strength of the government case and the overwhelming
- 37:17Speaker 2: evidence that Komi was corrupt while FBI director. Quoting Exhibit
- 37:22Speaker 2: thirteen includes damning evidence of then FBI Director Komy's handwritten
- 37:26Speaker 2: note on FBI director letterhead. I love this. You can't
- 37:30Speaker 2: get it much better than that. It's in his writing,
- 37:33Speaker 2: and it's on an FBI letterhead, evidencing of Komi's knowledge
- 37:44Speaker 2: of and even participation in the Russia collusion criminal conspiracy
- 37:48Speaker 2: against Trump. So he wrote stuff down. This is during
- 37:51Speaker 2: the Russia collusion thing that he was sending to associates
- 37:55Speaker 2: in the bureau. Exhibit five gets worse komy from his
- 37:59Speaker 2: burner Gmail and a burner Gmail is you create a
- 38:03Speaker 2: fake account that you can then delete the emails after
- 38:08Speaker 2: you send them. The problem, of course, is is that
- 38:10Speaker 2: when something's out there in Cyber's face, it's hard to
- 38:12Speaker 2: ever come down. His name was Reinhold at Nieber. Reinhold
- 38:15Speaker 2: Nieber was actually James Colby. Just shows you what a
- 38:18Speaker 2: dink Coleby is, what a stupid name to uses. Your
- 38:21Speaker 2: fake name better be like if you use this first
- 38:24Speaker 2: of all, all fake names, sounds stupid. You can't come
- 38:26Speaker 2: up with a fake name that doesn't sound stupid. Reinhold Neiber,
- 38:29Speaker 2: I mean me, it just sounds like he's some sort
- 38:33Speaker 2: of dignified pampas ass royalty or something or another. Anyway,
- 38:39Speaker 2: as Reinold Nieber, he sends out this email stating quote
- 38:43Speaker 2: to me, no need at this point it would be
- 38:46Speaker 2: shouting into the wind. Someday they will figure it out,
- 38:50Speaker 2: and as Jack and Ben point out, my decision will
- 38:52Speaker 2: be one a president elect Clinton will be very grateful
- 38:56Speaker 2: for This is referring to starting the Russia colluson investigation,
- 39:00Speaker 2: and he said, at some point, everybody's gonna find out
- 39:03Speaker 2: there's no Russia collusion, but I'm gonna be a hero
- 39:06Speaker 2: and Hillary's gonna appreciate it. This is again during the
- 39:08Speaker 2: campaign he assumed that Hillary was going to win. It's
- 39:11Speaker 2: when he green lit the Russia collusion investigation during the
- 39:13Speaker 2: twenty sixteen campaign. He's got a note saying, yeah, I
- 39:16Speaker 2: look at it. I'll find out that he did it.
- 39:18Speaker 2: But Hillary is gonna be the president. She's gonna be happy,
- 39:21Speaker 2: and everybody's gonna be glad that I did it. Came
- 39:24Speaker 2: on next in Exhibit seven, in response to planning a
- 39:27Speaker 2: New York Times the election eve hit piece against Trump,
- 39:31Speaker 2: then FBI Director James Comy tells FBI Special government employee
- 39:34Speaker 2: Daniel Richmond, quote, well done, my friend, who knew this
- 39:38Speaker 2: would be oh so a fun. Comy denied in congressional
- 39:43Speaker 2: testimony that he ever knew that anybody leaked to The
- 39:46Speaker 2: New York Times. We now have documentation in which he
- 39:50Speaker 2: praises a guy for leaking to The New York Times.
- 39:53Speaker 2: Dead to rights, they got him perjury. Exhibit ten shows
- 39:57Speaker 2: FBI Special government employed Daniel Richmond by the way, his
- 40:00Speaker 2: fake name on the emails is Michael Garcia. That's at
- 40:03Speaker 2: least a regular old fake name, right. Wonder what kind
- 40:07Speaker 2: of fake you see? You're not creative, what would your
- 40:09Speaker 2: fake name be. You'd be so stupid you use like
- 40:12Speaker 2: your first name, Paul Kramer. It's like, but I have
- 40:17Speaker 2: a radio name in Oshkosh. I called myself Mark Belson.
- 40:21Speaker 2: But that's because we didn't like having to have the name,
- 40:23Speaker 2: so we all took names that were almost the same
- 40:25Speaker 2: name that we had. Anyway, total aside, here is leaking
- 40:29Speaker 2: as an anonymous source to The New York Times reporter
- 40:31Speaker 2: Michael schmid On, behalf of then FBI Director James Comey.
- 40:34Speaker 2: Comy testified to the US Senate Judiciary Committee that he
- 40:40Speaker 2: never did this. All right, I am now going to
- 40:50Speaker 2: embark on a feudal attempt to avoid public confusion on something.
- 40:55Speaker 2: There are just some things in which you know, people
- 40:57Speaker 2: are going to be mixed up and it's going to
- 40:59Speaker 2: be impossible. Will to knock the story down. Here's the story,
- 41:07Speaker 2: and then I'm going to try to clarify the story.
- 41:10Speaker 2: Hughsar's House of Fine Diamonds is closing. It's in West
- 41:15Speaker 2: bed I'm just telling you it doesn't matter how many
- 41:21Speaker 2: times you mentioned, people are gonna think that Craig Hussar's
- 41:24Speaker 2: Fine Diamonds is closing. They're separate companies. They're just some
- 41:29Speaker 2: businesses in which everybody with that name seems to go
- 41:31Speaker 2: into the business. A moving company in Milwaukee with those
- 41:34Speaker 2: like two companies that have the same family last name,
- 41:36Speaker 2: but they're totally separate companies. They're different. There's a relationship,
- 41:41Speaker 2: but different families started the business. Craig Hussar's Fine Diamonds
- 41:46Speaker 2: is in Brookfield. It was started by his parents. This
- 41:49Speaker 2: one Hussar's House of Fine Diamonds in West Bend, it
- 41:52Speaker 2: was Michael Husaer and Mary Hussar and now the owners there.
- 41:55Speaker 2: It was started by Michael Huser's a different father, so
- 41:58Speaker 2: they both family businesses that have been forever. But it's
- 42:01Speaker 2: the West Bend Hughes Sire's, which is not connected to
- 42:03Speaker 2: the Brookfield Craig Hughsar that is closing. I'm just telling you,
- 42:07Speaker 2: Craig Usar is going to go through hell for the
- 42:08Speaker 2: next three years of people thinking that he's closed. They're
- 42:10Speaker 2: going out of business because people just think it's the
- 42:14Speaker 2: same business. And they probably confuse the two forever. One's
- 42:17Speaker 2: in Brookfield, the other ones in West bed I think
- 42:20Speaker 2: I've accomplished nothing with this. I think we just going
- 42:24Speaker 2: to be confused. Oh I heard Craig Ughsa is going
- 42:26Speaker 2: out of business. He's not. It's the other Husar's the
- 42:31Speaker 2: West Bend one. It's going out of business. This is
- 42:35Speaker 2: the Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling Podcast.
- 42:43Speaker 2: I want to spend a moment discussing Dick Cheney. It's
- 42:50Speaker 2: very hard to summarize his life and legacy. If you're
- 42:56Speaker 2: not aware Cheney died at the age of eighty four.
- 43:01Speaker 2: The answer is, in my view, it's very mixed. People
- 43:06Speaker 2: have jumped all over Donald Trump. Why has any said it?
- 43:09Speaker 2: I know as of the timing of this podcast, he
- 43:11Speaker 2: hasn't said anything. Dick Chenney tried to destroy Donald Trump.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Trump's not gonna say anything good about Channey now that
- 43:20Speaker 2: he's dead. And I understand that when someone dies that
- 43:24Speaker 2: I think is despicable, I don't go dancing on his grave,
- 43:27Speaker 2: especially if it's I mean, it's an international tyrant, you know,
- 43:30Speaker 2: Saddam Hussein, that's different. But if there's somebody that I
- 43:33Speaker 2: didn't like locally and they die. Just keep my mouth shut.
- 43:40Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is is that Dick Cheney
- 43:42Speaker 2: was probably the strongest vice president in American history. He
- 43:46Speaker 2: ran foreign policy, directed the war in Iraq. And that's
- 43:49Speaker 2: not a knock on w. Bush. It's smart that a
- 43:51Speaker 2: president uses his vice president and his skills. And Chaney
- 43:57Speaker 2: showed stern backbone. He was revisedilled by the left. He
- 44:02Speaker 2: was hated as much in his day as Charlie Kirk
- 44:04Speaker 2: was hated in his Yet he stood his ground and
- 44:12Speaker 2: on many things, including the terror threat, he was right.
- 44:16Speaker 2: I think he was proven wrong about Iraq. Trump made
- 44:20Speaker 2: that case, and I think that the case that American
- 44:23Speaker 2: intervention in Iraq didn't accomplish anything is now in retrospect correct.
- 44:29Speaker 2: But it was my position, was Dick Cheney's position at
- 44:32Speaker 2: the time. The great flaw in the Cheney Bush doctrine
- 44:37Speaker 2: was the belief that you could turn any Muslim country
- 44:40Speaker 2: into a democracy. Then I wired that way, so all
- 44:45Speaker 2: you ended up with was Iraq under different control and
- 44:50Speaker 2: created a tremendous upheaval in the Middle East, which eventually
- 44:53Speaker 2: strengthened Iran. So Trump starts running and Trump, you know,
- 44:59Speaker 2: had this attitude forever, including when he started running for president.
- 45:02Speaker 2: He was crapping over all these wars started by the
- 45:05Speaker 2: Bush wing of the Republican Party. Cheney hated that, and
- 45:11Speaker 2: because he hated it and he had thin skin, he
- 45:14Speaker 2: turned on Trump. And I think this is the whole
- 45:16Speaker 2: roots of Liz Cheney hating him and the whole thing.
- 45:19Speaker 2: He can't stand the fact that Donald Trump was out
- 45:22Speaker 2: there giving his version of history that Bush and Cheney
- 45:25Speaker 2: were bad for America. And as a result, Dick Cheney
- 45:29Speaker 2: destroyed his legacy. He endorsed Kamala Harris for president. Kamala
- 45:34Speaker 2: Harris being elected president would have destroyed our nation, the
- 45:38Speaker 2: very nation that Dick Cheney spent most of his career defending.
- 45:43Speaker 2: Cheney became a demagogue in hyping January sixth. So his
- 45:50Speaker 2: legacy is mixed in many respects. He was heroic, but
- 45:57Speaker 2: he screwed up the last ten years of his life.
- 46:04Speaker 2: But back at the time, remember Bush and Cheney were
- 46:08Speaker 2: running after eight years of Clinton in which America's credibility
- 46:13Speaker 2: on the international stage was compromised. You know, we were
- 46:16Speaker 2: selling secrets to China. We were doing all those inside
- 46:19Speaker 2: deals with Charlie Tree and John Wong. The American military
- 46:23Speaker 2: was weakened, and Bush and Cheney responded to that, and
- 46:27Speaker 2: they also, aside from the war in Iraq, they responded
- 46:30Speaker 2: to the terror threat by defending our country. The war
- 46:33Speaker 2: in Afghanistan went on too long, but the initial go
- 46:36Speaker 2: knockout al Qaeda I think was justified. I think we
- 46:38Speaker 2: should have knocked out Olkeddy and then not worried about Afghanistan.
- 46:43Speaker 2: So there were certainly things that our praiseworthy and defensible
- 46:49Speaker 2: that Dick Cheney was involved in. But he's left a
- 46:52Speaker 2: sour taste in many of our mouths over the fact
- 46:54Speaker 2: that he allowed this attack on some of the positions
- 47:00Speaker 2: that he took to sell out our nation and support
- 47:03Speaker 2: people who wanted to destroy our country or were clearly
- 47:07Speaker 2: too incompetent to run our nation. I e. Kamala Harris
- 47:13Speaker 2: as for president, not saying something I don't find some
- 47:18Speaker 2: dignitary to show up and see seven terms of going
- 47:20Speaker 2: to the funeral, little the Cheneys to want them there.
- 47:23Speaker 2: So silence in this case is probably appropriate. By the way,
- 47:29Speaker 2: I don't think silence in my case is hardly ever appropriate.
- 47:32Speaker 2: If I was silent, I would have no career. If
- 47:35Speaker 2: I had to do a job in which I didn't
- 47:36Speaker 2: shoot off my big mouth. What would that be? There
- 47:38Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be much that would be out there
- 47:40Speaker 2: for me for those of you wondering. Our very good horse,
- 47:46Speaker 2: Special Wands sold at auction Monday night at the Facing
- 47:49Speaker 2: Tipton Sale in Kentucky. She got she went for one
- 47:52Speaker 2: point three million dollars. Remember I'm a partner. I don't
- 47:55Speaker 2: get the entire one point three million dollars. It was
- 47:58Speaker 2: read in them my rain jib. What I thought was fair, inappropriate,
- 48:02Speaker 2: and what it worth is the owners, new owners or Japanese.
- 48:06Speaker 2: They may continue to raise their centers straight to the
- 48:08Speaker 2: breeding shed, but turned out to be a great horse
- 48:10Speaker 2: for us and financial windfall as well. Another podcast coming
- 48:14Speaker 2: up on Thursday, The.
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