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Men Helping Men Video Podcast Episode 2 · Men Helping Men

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We open up the script. Aloha Pastor Doug with Christ
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built ministries and men helping men Foundation and what I wanted
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to do today is talk to Gemini and find out what it's a
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female's voice, what she thinks the whole Bible says about
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certain topics about why we were created once saved, always
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saved. What does it take to enter the
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Kingdom of heaven? Great resource because letting
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her know, establishing in the beginning that I want to know
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what the Bible says, not what other churches say, other people
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say about certain subjects or topics.
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Acts 1711. The Bereans, who are of more
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noble character than the Thessalonians, check the
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scriptures against what Paul was saying to see if they were
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accurate. And that's Paul, Apostle Paul,
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no, God put that in the Bible to make sure that we check everyone
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against his word. Remember, his word is the only
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offensive weapon we have against Satan, to cut Satan's lies in
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pieces, not knowing his word, vulnerable.
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We don't know when Satan is lying to us, when he's telling
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the truth. So Gemini, we're going to
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activate her. Are you there?
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I'm here and ready to help whenever you are.
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What's on your mind? All right, we I want to go over
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theology using systematic theology, sound doctrine, what
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the whole Bible says about one topic.
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All right. That sounds like a great
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approach. Let's dive in.
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What is the first theological topic or sound doctrine you
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would like to examine using systematic theology?
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OK, I'd like to talk about why we were created.
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Why did God create Adam? God created Adam and humanity
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primarily for His own glory and for His pleasure out of the
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abundance of His love and relational nature.
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They were also made to have fellowship with Him and to
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exercise dominion over creation as His representatives.
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So he created Adam in his own image for intimate relationship
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with him. Is that correct?
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Yes, that includes fellowship and intimate relationship.
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Being created in His image means humanity was designed to reflect
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His character, love and righteousness, and to walk with
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Him in unbroken communion. So how often?
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I know the Bible doesn't state it clearly as far as numbers,
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but how often would you say God walked with Adam?
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Was it daily? Was it once a week?
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Was it twice a week? Well, the Bible doesn't specify
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a frequency. The narrative suggests a
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continuous, unbroken fellowship. It implies that their communion
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was constant, with walking and talking with God being a natural
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part of life in the garden. Would you like to explore how
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this fellowship relates to the concept of the Fall?
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No. So when the fall happened, what
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did that do between their for their relationship meaning?
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The Fall introduced sin into the world, which created a barrier
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of separation between God and humanity.
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This broke the direct, unbroken fellowship Adam and Eve had
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enjoyed, bringing spiritual death and the need for
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redemption to restore that relationship.
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So God could have either A sent him to hell with Satan and his
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demons, or B sent his son down here to redeem them to die for
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their sins so he could maintain, or he could go back to having a
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intimate relationship with them. Is that right?
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That's right, God and his justice could have condemned
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humanity for sin, but in his grace and love, He chose to
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provide a way of redemption through his Son, Jesus Christ,
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to restore that intimate relationship.
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OK, so when he sent Jesus down here to die for our sins, what
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is the definition of grace? Grace is God's unmerited favor.
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It means receiving His love, forgiveness, and blessings
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despite deserving judgment for sin, as it is a gift that cannot
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be earned. OK, so we deserve hell because
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we we all inherited sin, so to speak, from Adam and Eve and
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God's grace allows us to build a relationship with Him that was
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once a lost through sin or by sin from Adam and Eve.
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That summarizes it perfectly. Through grace, God bridges the
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gap created by sin, allowing us to be reconciled to Him and
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restore that eternal relationship.
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What aspect of doctrine would you like to examine next?
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So all of the confusion about grace by faith, not by works
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works. And he's talking about the Old
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Testament law works. Talking to the Jews is focusing
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on the branches instead of focusing on the root of the
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problem, which is an intimate re establishing an intimate
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relationship with God the Father.
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That's insightful. You're highlighting that the
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core purpose of doctrine is to understand the relational unity
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with God. What is the next doctrine you
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want to examine? Well, what I want to examine is
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I want to stay on this, this, this thread of thought because
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Fast forward until today. Here in America, the confusion
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is we go to church and faith is contagious like COVID, where you
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just catch it. It's not something that you have
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to sacrifice anything for. And even the NLT New Living
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Translation uses the word free gift, which is not an accurate
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term. The word free is not in the
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original Greek text. Is that true?
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Your observation is correct. When we read free gift in many
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English translations and verses like Romans 5, the word free is
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not explicitly present in the original Greek.
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The Greek word, often translated as gift, like charisma or doria,
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carries the meaning of something given graciously without
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payment, but the English adjective is added for clarity.
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And that English adjective is added for confusion, in my my
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opinion. Because gift.
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A gift is something you don't earn, else it's not a gift if I
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earned it and it's not a gift. A gift is something that you
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didn't earn. It was given to you.
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Your logic is sound. A gift, by definition, is
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something given without expectation of return or
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payment. So adding free emphasizes that
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graciousness, but can also unintentionally obscure the
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intrinsic meaning of the term. How would you like to continue
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examining this concept of grace? Because if it's a free gift and
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I have to sacrifice my life and let the rich young ruler in
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Matthew 19 give away, give up everything he has in order to
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receive the gift of salvation, that's the opposite of free.
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You're pointing out a significant theological tension.
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The call to follow Jesus involves total surrender and
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sacrifice, which contrasts with the idea of something being
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entirely without cost to the individual.
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Where would you like to steer our examination of this topic?
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Next. So we're stay on, stay on point.
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So the point I'm making is, again, Jesus came down here to
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die for our sins so we could have a daily intimate
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relationship with God the Father.
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Is that true? Yes, that accurately describes
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the ultimate purpose of redemption in Christian
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theology, to reconcile humanity to God so that a restored,
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intimate relationship with Him can be enjoyed daily.
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What specific doctrine or passage would be most helpful to
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look at Nets to explore this? OK so if now if I I speak fluent
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English I don't speak another language.
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The hardest language they say to to learn is Taiwanese because of
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the the pinion the eight different sounds per letter.
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Now if I practice Taiwanese 2 * a week for two hours each time I
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practice I say Sunday and Wednesday and I did not practice
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the language again throughout the week but I hear English
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being spoken. Would I ever learn the language
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or how long would it take me to learn the language?
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Learning a tonal language like Taiwanese requires consistent
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daily practice and immersion. Practicing for only four hours a
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week with no intervening exposure would make it extremely
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difficult to reach fluency, and it could take many years, if at
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all, to make meaningful progress.
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You likely need to integrate daily listening, speaking, and
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study into your routine. Have you considered trying a
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language learning app or finding a conversation partner for more
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consistent practice? No, I'm, I'm, I'm making a point
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here. So with Taiwanese, because my
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original language is English and because of my age it's it's I
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have to sacrifice more time and effort to practice and learn the
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language. It doesn't matter if I'm basils
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and I'm a multi billionaire, that won't make me learn the
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language any faster. I can't pay for me learning the
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language. I have to sacrifice my time,
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correct? Are absolutely correct when it
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comes to language acquisition. Personal dedication and time are
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the only currencies that truly matter.
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Money cannot purchase the cognitive rewiring in practice
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required for fluency, regardless of 1's wealth.
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So now we come over to salvation to receive the gift of
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salvation. Now the the key to the gate, so
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to speak, is loving God with all of our heart, mind, soul and
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strength, correct? That command, often called the
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Great Commandment, is central to Christian living and
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demonstrates the fullness of our devotion and faith in response
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to God's love. What are your thoughts on how
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this love relates to the experience of faith?
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Now how do I love a God that I cannot see physically and touch
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physically? Loving God involves engaging
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with Him through prayer, obeying His commandments, reading His
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Word to know His character, and loving others who are made in
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His image. The Holy Spirit within you
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empowers you to experience and express this love even without
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physical sight. What aspect of this relationship
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would you like to discuss further?
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Now you said reading his word is how I get to know Godfather so I
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can end up knowing him and up loving him, correct?
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Yes, reading his word allows you to understand his character,
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will and promises, which is foundational to building a
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personal relationship and growing in your love for him.
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Now, is there any other way to know God intimately, personally,
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without knowing his Word? In Christian theology, while God
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reveals himself through nature and conscience, intimate and
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personal fellowship is dependent on his special revelation, which
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is found in His Word. So is it fair to say if you
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don't know his word intimately, you don't know God intimately?
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Yes, in Christian theology, because His word reveals his
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heart, character, and will, it is considered essential for
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knowing Him intimately and personally.
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So let's go back to learning Taiwanese.
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Now, if I'm with a teacher, a Taiwanese language teacher, and
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let's say it's a he, and he just tells me to practice twice a
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week for two hours each time I practice, would that be a good
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teacher? Will I eventually learn the
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language? Or probably not. 4 hours of
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practice per week with a teacher is not enough to learn a tonal
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language like Taiwanese. You would need daily engagement,
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including listening and speaking outside of those 4 hours to make
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meaningful progress. So is it fair to say if he
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taught me two hours a day, every day, 365 days a year, the
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chances of me learning the language a lot faster would be
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would be reasonable right? Yes, two hours of daily
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instruction would greatly accelerate your progress.
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This level of consistency combined with your own practice
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makes learning the language much more reasonable.
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So now if I'm training, if I'm trained in the worldly ways, my
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parents didn't teach me God's ways when I was young, like
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learning English. I didn't learn another language
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when I was young. I learned the self-centered
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ways. Eye for an eye.
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Somebody messes with me, Don't let them pick on you, Fight with
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them. No, nothing about forgiveness,
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nothing about thinking about others, nothing about guarding
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my heart. Now I go to church once a week
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for an hour and a half and I go to a Bible study, let's say on
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Wednesdays for two hours and throughout the rest of the week
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I don't read my Bible. What is the chances of me being
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transformed? Just like with learning a
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language, meaningful transformation in your spiritual
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life requires daily, consistent engagement with God's Word and
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prayer throughout the week, rather than just relying on a
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few hours at church and Bible study.
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Now, let me ask you this. If I asked 10 high schoolers,
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seniors in high school, the 11, the the past 11 years that they
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were in school, if I asked them, did you ever, how many of you
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ever went home and did extra work when it wasn't assigned to
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you by your teacher? How many of the 10 American
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children you think would raise their hand and say I went home
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and did extra world history, extra English, even if it wasn't
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assigned, how many you think would have said that?
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It's likely very few, if any, would raise their hand.
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Most students focus primarily on completing assigned tasks, so
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going beyond that without external motivation is rare.
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Now going to church. What is the pastor's job
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according to Ephesians 411 through 16?
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According to Ephesians 411 through 16, a pastor's job is to
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equip God's people for the work of ministry and to build up the
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body of Christ, helping believers reach spiritual
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maturity and unity in the faith. And we do that by Second Timothy
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316 and 17. Says what?
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Second, Timothy 316 and 17 states that all scriptures God
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breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting
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and training. And I'm just a language model
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and can't help with that. And training in righteousness so
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the person of God will be thoroughly equipped for every
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good work. So God's Word is our teaching
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tool, so to speak, our textbook, correct?
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Yes, in Christian teaching, God's Word is considered the
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ultimate source and textbook for spiritual wisdom, guidance, and
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living righteously. So a pastor is being called a
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spiritual father. Their qualifications in First
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Timothy 3 Titus one is to manage their family well, making sure
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their children are of the faith, that their children are
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respectful. So with God's children in his
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church, when what did? What did Jesus tell Peter in
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John 21? In John 21, Jesus tells Peter
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three times, Feed my lambs, tend my sheep, and feed my sheep,
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emphasizing the responsibility to care for and nurture God's
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people. And what does first Peter Tutu
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say? First, Peter Tutu says like
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newborn infants, crave pure spiritual milk so that by it you
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may grow up in your salvation. How's about Hebrews 412?
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Hebrews 412 states. For the word of God is alive and
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active, sharper than any double edged sword.
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It penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and
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marrow. It judges the thoughts and
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attitudes of the heart. How's about Matthew 44?
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Matthew 4. Four states, Jesus answered.
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It is written, Man shall not live on bread alone, but on
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every word that comes from the mouth of God.
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Romans 10/17. Romans 10/17 says consequently
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faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is
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heard through the word about Christ.
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Psalms, 1/19/11. Psalm 1/19/11 states I have
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hidden your word in my heart, that I might not sin against
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you. How do you see this verse
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applying to the concept of transformation?
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That reading every day, listening to God is how our
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hearts start to transform. He removes the hurt from our
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hearts. He heals that pain, He heals
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that hurt, makes it into a turns it into a scar so it's now a
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testimony and fills our heart with His unconditional love
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little by little. That daily engagement allows His
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truth to reshape your perspective and heal past
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wounds, gradually replacing pain with His love.
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Is there another area of doctrine or Christian living
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you'd like to explore? And when the pastor instructs
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the congregation to strategically spend time with
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God every day through His Word, teaching them how to
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exegetically interpret His Word correctly, using hermeneutics,
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correctly sound doctrine, accurate doctrine, correctly
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teaching them the 66 books in the Bible, different genres.
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So learning how to interpret it correctly, spending time with
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the Holy Spirit who's the master teacher every single day.
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What is the chances of learning the language or being changed
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into a likeness of Jesus? Is that a?
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Approach creates a very high likelihood of transformation as
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it aligns with the biblical pattern of renewing your mind
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daily through the Word and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
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Would you like to discuss the specific role of the Holy Spirit
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in this process? So like we talked about the
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teachers, if the teachers don't instruct the children, like I
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said, the high school is the seniors to do homework.
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They won't do any homework, just like the pastors.
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If the pastors don't teach the congregation the importance of
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spending time building a relationship with God the Father
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through His Word, people won't take it upon themselves to read.
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And if they do read, they don't read properly because there's 66
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books in the Bible and exegetically learning how to
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interpret the scriptures properly needs to be taught.
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It's not common sense. If they're not instructed to do
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it, most people will not do it. And if they do not correctly and
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consistently correct. Your reasoning is consistent.
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Effective instruction and clear expectations are vital for
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developing both academic and spiritual habits correctly and
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consistently. Now, if the cure for cancer, the
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cancer called sin, takes 10 steps, for the sake of this
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discussion, let's say 10 steps and I only teach you 5 steps, so
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you cannot receive the cure for the cancer called sin.
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It's an. Incomplete teaching or I am a
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false teacher, correct? Context of your analogy.
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Withholding crucial steps of a necessary process would indeed
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render the teaching incomplete and potentially misleading.
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So. You hear it?
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The main. Goal of Christianity is building
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an intimate relationship with God the Father, not working
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around him, not doing works, not trying to be a good husband, a
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part around God the Father or apart from God the Father.
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It's not like going to the sideline in football, hearing
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the coach give you instructions and running back into the field
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to the and and carrying out the play.
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That's not how God the Father works.
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We have the Holy Spirit in our lives, so it's going through God
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the Father so He can change my heart to be a better husband, to
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be a better son to my parents, to be a better worker at my job.
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He, once He changes you from the inside, everything starts to
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change. Now remember going back to the
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beginning, God created Adam in his own image to have a daily
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intimate relationship with Adam. Sin came into the world.
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Stop that from happening. Because God is holy, He cannot
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be around unholy, rebellious, prideful people.
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So he could have sent Adam and Eve to hell with Satan and his
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demons, or he could have redeemed them by sending his son
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Jesus to pay the penalty and die for their sins, which is our
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sins too, because we inherited sin, so to speak, from Adam and
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Eve. So the grace.
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I was. Confused for years about grace
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and faith and it's not by works. But what is the difference
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between following God? How do I know I'm following him?
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Because I love him and I trust him and I'm not following him
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because I I don't want to go to hell.
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They were one in the same to me. They were intertwined together.
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So it was very confusing. And all the churches I went to,
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it was like faith was caught like COVID, you know, like
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COVID, you wear your mask and you don't you, you take the
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precautions and then all of a sudden you lose your taste.
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When you get home, you get flu like symptoms.
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You, you find out you got COVID. You don't know how you got
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COVID. You just caught it somehow.
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You didn't try to catch it. You tried not to catch it, but
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you caught it. People make it out to be today
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that faith is contagious to God. You just got to believe
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intellectually that Jesus came down here, died for my sins,
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rose from the dead, and I'm saved.
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That doesn't make any sense because I've done that many,
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many times. I never questioned Jesus being
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here. I grew up a Catholic, always
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believing in Jesus intellectually, never trusted
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him, never having an intimate relationship with him, never
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knowing how to. So my heart was hard, like a
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lava rock. I still hated a lot of people so
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I could follow him on my best days in certain areas.
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But when I struggle, I revert back to my my old ways, my heart
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again, my innermost thoughts and feelings.
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My character was still programmed to English, it didn't
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transform over to Taiwanese. See, when we learn our own ways,
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our foolish self-centered ways, we don't learn about God's ways.
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Learn how to forgive, learning how to love our enemies.
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Matthew 5 Learning how to guard our hearts.
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We don't have that relationship. The daily relationship with
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Jesus. Learning that when we were
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young, we have bad habits. We get hurt.
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Somebody hurts me. They don't offer me food.
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They they don't include me. They tease me, let's say.
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How do I get? Rid of that, how do I not let
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that affect me? We don't go home and tell our
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parents, most of us, especially in the Hawaiian culture.
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So you know what we do? We just start it.
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We cope and the more and more hurt we get, the harder our
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hearts get. We got to harden our hearts,
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acting like we don't care because it'll hurt too much.
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So it'll change who God created us to be or how He created us to
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be because that heart in heart is supposed to be soft and
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loving not hard and uncaring. So when we focus on re
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establishing our relationship with God the Father or
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establishing our relationship with God the Father, which is
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why Jesus came here in the 1st place.
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If you focus on the health of your relationship, 100% focusing
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on keeping your relationship or establishing a relationship with
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Jesus every day, keeping it healthy every day, guarantee
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he's going to change your life. Guarantee God says when you seek
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me, you will find me. When you seek me with all your
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heart. So let's say you're seeking him
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and you read the program. We have a reading plan.
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You read the reading plan and you're doing it half heartedly
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checking the box. I pray Father, help me to love
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you with all my heart. Change me.
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Please help me to love my wife like Jesus of the church.
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When I read his word, the commands that he says lay down
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your life for your brother or sister.
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Think of. Others better than yourself.
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I pray and I say help me. Change my.
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Heart and help me to think of others better than myself.
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Help me to want to lay down my life for another brother or
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sister. Help me to learn how to love my
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enemy now. Forgiving your enemies, wanting,
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loving them is 10 miles past forgiveness.
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See, God doesn't tell us these things to punish us.
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He's saying don't love the lovable when you have my Holy
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Spirit in you. God is in us.
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We're even capable of loving the unlovable.
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That's the power of God. Just like Gideon, 300 men
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against 135,000. God wanted the odds to be that,
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that ridiculously far apart, so nobody could say it.
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Because Gideon had some mighty warriors like David, like King
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David. Well, he had some tough guys,
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those treasured men. They were like Navy Seals and
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then some. No, no, no.
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Even if they were Navy Seals and then some, 135,000 against 300.
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Ridiculous. Nobody would bet on the 300.
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But see, that's the power of God.
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God is a God of miracles. He can change anybody.
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How? Not by working around God or
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trying to read His Bible and apply His word and His ways to
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our lives. That's why Jesus says in Matthew
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721 through 23 to come to Jesus and say on Judgement Day I
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prophesied in your name, I cast out demons, I went to church, I
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cried when I sang, I watched the children I I put on functions, I
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did the Angel tree with the prisoners and gave gifts.
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Jesus is going to say I never need you if you don't have an
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intimate relationship with Jesus.
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You're not going to. Change.
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You're not going to love Him. How can you love somebody you
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don't know? How can you trust somebody you
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don't know? So it's about the daily intimate
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relationship with God the Father through His Word.
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You learn primarily from listening to somebody tell you
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about themselves. Reading His word is primarily
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listening to God and not just intellectual guys from the heart
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too. When you read the Old Testament,
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how did he feel when Israel turned their back on him?
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He got them out of Egypt just to hear them complain.
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You should have left us in Egypt.
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Now we're hungry. We don't have any food.
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The ungratefulness that. They were.
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Showing broke God's heart when Solomon all the wisdom and
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wealth God gave him, he he married outside of his his his
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nation and worshipped his wives gods.
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Talk about. Breaking God's heart.
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And you know, a lot of the things that the Israelites do, I
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did, I did to God. And I am so sorry.
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Father, help me change, forgive me.
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Change my heart so I never hurt you again.
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I never hurt the people I love, my wife, my children, heal my
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heart and the pain and the suffering we go through, it's
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like gold refined by the fire. The impurities rise to the
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surface because of the fire. Fire represents problems.
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That's why God says consider it pure joy when you face problems
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because I'm going to show you what's in your heart, Doug.
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I'm going to show you the clogged arteries, so to speak,
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so I can unclog them and they can flow with my love.
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Now go and love your wife. Now you know how to love your
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wife like my son. Jesus loves the church.
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Now forgive. You see, it's not working around
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Jesus or because we know him here.
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It's because of the relationship and him little by little
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changing us here. Healing the wounds, healing the
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hurt. When people didn't love you like
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you should have been loved, didn't encourage you like you
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should have been encouraged didn't like in cheers with Norm
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when every time he walks in Norm.
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Giving you. That that comfort in getting
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excited when they see you. You're special, special to God.
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When you build your relationship with Him, you're going to see
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what true love is. The love he has for you, you
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can't experience from here. You can't experience going to
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church once a week and going to a Bible study.
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That's why the pastor's not pushing you to read your Bible.
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False teaching. Just like I asked AI if there's
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10 steps to receive the gift of a cure for cancer called sin,
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and I only give you 5. Am IA False teacher.
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Yeah. She said.
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And that's true, pastors, spiritual father, if I didn't
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feed my kids every day, three times a day, they would arrest
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me. God told Peter three times,
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Jesus, feed my sheep, take care of my lambs, take care of my
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sheep. My job as a pastor is to help
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you build your relationship with God the Father, show you how to
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interpret his Bible correctly so you understand his
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autobiography. His biography is somebody wrote
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about him. Autobiography is he wrote it
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about himself. No way we can know God
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intimately without knowing his word intimately.
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Don't listen to the false teaching pastors out there.
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If they don't tell you to read every day, they're false
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teachers. They're incomplete teaching
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teachers, so they're false. You cannot receive the gift of
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salvation without an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ
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Carrying ball barons. You can't do it.
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Your heart will not change if you have any unforgiveness in
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your heart. He didn't clean out your heart.
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See, water comes into this house with one pipe in one pipe clean.
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Some goes into the sink we use for cooking.
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You can drink the basin in the bathroom can drink that water.
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The shower can drink that water. Some goes into the toilet bowl.
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Nobody will drink the toilet bowl water.
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Why? The water was clean.
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It's the container. The toilet bowl is what's
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contaminated with bacteria. If our hearts are contaminated,
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the Holy Spirit will never, ever, ever come into our hearts.
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He has to clean it out. He has to sterilize it.
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And the only way He can and will is through the daily intimate
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relationship with Him. Guarantee I have a Bible basics
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me and my wife Lelia made she was the one that put it together
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as a bookmark and we have a spiritual routine.
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How you start your day with God in prayer.
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You close your your day in prayer as well, reflecting
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specific sections what to read. We read the old.
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Testament, Psalms or Proverbs and New Testament every single
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day. See, it's it's not by works and
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he was talking exegetically talking to the Jews about
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implementing circumcision, eating certain types of foods,
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not eating certain types of foods, blending it with the New
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Testament, that doesn't apply to us.
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But. You cannot earn salvation, just
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like you cannot pay for learning a language another language.
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You have to sacrifice your time to practice.
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If you want a close relationship with your spouse, you have to
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make the time to spend with them, listening to them speak
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about themselves to you, getting to know their character, getting
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to love and feel what they went through and you speaking to
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them, them getting to know what you went through, getting to
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know you. And that's where the love comes,
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that's where the connection comes.
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So he who walks with the wise grow wise.
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We walk with God every day. The Holy Spirit is the master
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teacher will guarantee be there to build and it's through his
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autobiography. His word is what's going to
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start to change your heart little by little by little.
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God bless you till we meet again.