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8-26-26 Hour 3 - Davis Webb on Bo Nix/What would you do for a billion?/No time for Brett's baseball stats · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: I thought he did a really good job. Like we
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  Speaker 2: kind of talked about, get back to those feels and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he handled that really good. He's really efficient,
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  Speaker 2: good communicator in the huddle, in and out, was accurate
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  Speaker 2: with the football. I think he has one play he
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  Speaker 2: would like to have back, but through two drives and
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  Speaker 2: almost being, what is it, eight, nine months since the
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  Speaker 2: last time he's played? It's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: Davis Webb talking about Bo Nix's performance in the second
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  Speaker 3: preseason game. By the way, our 8 a.m. qualifier was
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  Speaker 3: Jenny Vaughn. So congratulations to Jenny.
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  Speaker 4: Jenny. Jenny.
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  Speaker 5: Jenny.
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  Speaker 6: Jenny. Jenny.
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  Speaker 4: Jenny.
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  Speaker 6: Broncos did make a cut yesterday. They cut Hakeem Butler.
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  Speaker 6: He was that receiver from the UFL. I always sort
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  Speaker 6: of thought when camp opened up and I said, wait,
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  Speaker 6: there's a receiver wearing number 30? I didn't even know
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  Speaker 6: who it was. I go, that guy's going to get cut.
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  Speaker 6: It's never a good thing when you're wearing number 30.
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  Speaker 3: Bro, that's such a good point. I look at numbers.
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  Speaker 3: There's a guy, and I love him. He's got... I always...
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  Speaker 3: I thought the first... Last year that he was Hufanga
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  Speaker 3: for the longest time in training camp because he's got
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  Speaker 3: the hair.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That big, like, Palo Malo hair. But he's number 39.
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  Speaker 3: I forget his name. He's a receiver, though.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: He's like, you're a receiver at 39?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that bodes well.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I will say this. If looking... If looking the part.
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  Speaker 4: If looking like a perfect football player got you in
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  Speaker 4: the league, Keane Butler would have a job in the
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  Speaker 4: NFL because he looks big body. He's huge and he
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  Speaker 4: looks perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Now, to go back to the web part, sorry, the
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix part of this, Davis Webb talking about Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 3: We brought this up last hour, and I do think
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  Speaker 3: this is worth pointing out again that. In the Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton formula of quarterbacking, which is don't make negative plays,
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  Speaker 3: you take sack percentage, interception percentage, and fumble percentage all
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  Speaker 3: into this big ball. Bo Nix was the best in
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  Speaker 3: the league last year at that. Now, can I bring
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  Speaker 3: a counterpoint to this argument? The good thing about Bo
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  Speaker 3: Nix being in that category is if your quarterback is
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  Speaker 3: really good at that, the floor of your game is
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  Speaker 3: going to be great because there's a very, very, very
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  Speaker 3: good chance your quarterback is not going to make mistakes
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  Speaker 3: that cost you. Right? Not going to throw the pick
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  Speaker 3: that turns into the game-winning touchdown for the opposing team.
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  Speaker 3: Not going to take the sack that takes you out
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  Speaker 3: of field goal range. All that stuff matters.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not going to be indecisive and let himself
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  Speaker 4: get tracked down from behind. He's going to... He's going
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  Speaker 4: to do things to continue the play, make it happen,
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  Speaker 4: and not take negative yards.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that is not to say that the offense was
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  Speaker 3: really good last year, because it wasn't. Now, second on
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  Speaker 3: that list of that Sean Payton formula, as far as
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  Speaker 3: best in the league, was Matthew Stafford. Stafford did the
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  Speaker 3: no mistakes along with oh-my-God plays on top of it.
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  Speaker 6: He didn't even have the wheels to do it. He
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  Speaker 6: just did it just because he got rid of the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Pocket presence, get rid of the ball, find the open man.
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  Speaker 3: If there is a negative to this, I think there's
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  Speaker 3: times that Bo Nix in the pocket, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to say looks panicked, but maybe sped up is the
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  Speaker 3: right word. where maybe he opts for the dump-off pass
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  Speaker 3: because he's trying so hard not to take the sack.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's almost as if Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton is so in his head that he'll be in
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  Speaker 3: the pocket being like, oh.
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  Speaker 4: I've got to get rid of the football.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to do this. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Or bail out of a clean pocket before he has
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  Speaker 3: to sort of thing.
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  Speaker 6: That stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Day one, Vic. Day one, it was ingrained on him
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  Speaker 4: by Sean Payton. Implored. Day one.
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  Speaker 6: That's not necessarily a bad thing either because if he's
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  Speaker 6: in that situation against New England and there's no shovel
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  Speaker 6: pass there, that ball's going to be thrown away or
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  Speaker 6: thrown to the ground.
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  Speaker 4: True. That's not a bad thing.
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  Speaker 6: Speeding up a quarterback and getting him used to the
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  Speaker 6: speed of the game I think is a good thing.
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  Speaker 6: I like that.
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  Speaker 4: I think Bo– I trust Bo now. You know, Bo's trustworthy. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 6: And that, I think, is his best character trait. He's trustworthy.
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  Speaker 3: He's just going to say it.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: His best quality as a quarterback is you trust him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. And that's a good thing. I mean, these are
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  Speaker 4: all good things. But earlier in the show, Vic, for
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  Speaker 4: those who are just joining us, Vic asked the question,
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  Speaker 4: are you excited about Bo Nix? And I said, well, that's, no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not excited. What I am is I'm happy.
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  Speaker 7: Intent.
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  Speaker 4: More than content, but yes, that fits. Happy. I like him.
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  Speaker 4: All of these things are true. But to say, are
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  Speaker 4: you excited, that adds another level to the conversation, the situation.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not, quote, excited, and then people are jumping
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  Speaker 4: on me. I don't know why people like Tobias. Or
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  Speaker 4: could I call– it's Tobias. Anyway, so I don't like
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  Speaker 4: what you said about my quarterback. Well, I didn't say
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  Speaker 4: anything bad about your quarterback. I'm not anti-Bo Nix at all.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pro-Bo Nix. I'm just not, oh, my God,
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  Speaker 4: I'm excited about Bo Nix. I'm not at that level yet.
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  Speaker 4: And let me explain a little bit more, Vic. If
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  Speaker 4: you go down and you look at the top 16
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  Speaker 4: passing yardages in the National Football League last season, top 16,
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  Speaker 4: Bo Nix had the lowest QBR of all top 16
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  Speaker 4: passers in the league in terms of passing yards. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about completion percentage, but I'm just talking
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  Speaker 4: about QBR. He had the lowest at 87.8%. And you've
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  Speaker 4: got to drop out of the top 16 to find
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  Speaker 4: somebody with a lower one. And that was Cam Ward
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  Speaker 4: at 80.2. And that's not to say that that can't
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  Speaker 4: be in the 90s this year or whatever. But I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's ever going to be a Stafford at 109.2.
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  Speaker 4: Or a Goff at 105. Or, hell, I mean, Drake
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  Speaker 4: May had a 113.5. I don't know that it's ever
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  Speaker 4: going to be that. But it doesn't have to be that.
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  Speaker 4: If it is that, then we are on friggin' easy street.
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  Speaker 6: Let me ask you a would you rather. All right?
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  Speaker 6: This is a very simple question. I want everybody's ears
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  Speaker 6: open up. Would you rather have a quarterback with a
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  Speaker 6: higher QBR, a more consistent QBR, a QBR that is
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  Speaker 6: top five, or would you rather have a quarterback who
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  Speaker 6: has proven time and time again and already has the
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  Speaker 6: stats to prove it that he can win you games
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  Speaker 6: in the fourth quarter?
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  Speaker 4: I like the fourth quarter stuff, but Vic, what I'm
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  Speaker 4: trying to tell you is that last year I think
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  Speaker 4: was kind of, I don't want to say it was
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  Speaker 4: anomalous because he proved himself in many times, many times
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  Speaker 4: in many instances. But Brett, would you admit that that
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  Speaker 4: last year, the way things went down was, we're not
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  Speaker 4: going to see another season like that for some time
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  Speaker 4: in a Broncos uniform?
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  Speaker 3: Well, that season was quite literally never seen in the
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  Speaker 3: history of the league before.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so that being said, Vic, I like consistency, man.
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  Speaker 6: I like a guy whose heartbeat slows when the rest
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  Speaker 6: of the team gets antsy. I like a guy who's
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  Speaker 6: able to process a game when things go crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I like a guy.
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  Speaker 6: who can win a game that seems lost. I like
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  Speaker 6: that guy.
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  Speaker 4: I do, too. I don't disagree with you, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: saying I think there were a confluence of circumstances surrounding
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  Speaker 4: those drives and those situations that aided him, perhaps, and
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  Speaker 4: the Broncos overall to that kind of performance. Not to
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  Speaker 4: say that they didn't earn it, because they did. But
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  Speaker 4: they were also handed some things and were fortunate in
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  Speaker 4: a different regard. Well, then you find me another season
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  Speaker 4: where a team wins 14 games, losing the time of
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  Speaker 4: possession battle and losing the turnover battle. I get it.
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  Speaker 4: It was an anomaly.
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  Speaker 6: I get it. But at the same time, you're dismissing
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  Speaker 6: it as if even at the end of that Buffalo game.
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  Speaker 6: All right. So the Broncos pull off the turnover that
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  Speaker 6: turned the game. You still had to move the ball
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  Speaker 6: upfield and get in field goal range.
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  Speaker 4: Agreed.
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  Speaker 6: Somebody had to do that. Who did that?
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  Speaker 4: It was Bonex who did that. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I mean....
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  Speaker 6: Everybody makes it sound, okay, somebody has to lead that charge.
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  Speaker 6: Could have gone three and out there. Give him the
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  Speaker 6: ball back to Buffalo. Somebody put him in that position.
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  Speaker 6: And I like that somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Just to make the argument, I largely agree with you, Vic.
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  Speaker 3: I am excited about Bo Nix this season. I think
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  Speaker 3: he's going to take another step.
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 3: But for the sake of argument, Bo Nix's success has
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  Speaker 3: been tied directly to the winning here, which no doubt
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  Speaker 3: is an important stat. Does it change? if that's not
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  Speaker 3: a pick and that's a catch from Buffalo and Buffalo wins,
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  Speaker 3: like in the sense of this, Bo Nix would be
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  Speaker 3: viewed much differently. I think if he did not get hurt,
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  Speaker 3: played in the AFC championship game, made the Superbowl, I
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  Speaker 3: think he's viewed differently.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But, and that's based off of a win, right? How
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  Speaker 3: much differently do you view him? If they lose a game, if,
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  Speaker 3: if it's not a Jake one pick and instead it's
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  Speaker 3: a catch Buffalo kicks, the game winning field goal, you
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  Speaker 3: don't have a playoff win to point to now. and
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  Speaker 3: now Bo Nix is 0-2 in the playoffs, and you
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  Speaker 3: lost a game in which the team turned the ball
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  Speaker 3: over four times.
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  Speaker 6: That's a great point, and I guess the argument would be,
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  Speaker 6: it would be more, hey, the defense blew it. The
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  Speaker 6: defense just got whipped up and down the field.
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  Speaker 5: True, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And Bo tried to keep pace and couldn't, but the defense,
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  Speaker 6: that would have been the war.
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  Speaker 4: But counterpoint, but counterpoint.
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  Speaker 6: Hang on, hang on.
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  Speaker 3: But the winning thing and what he does when the
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  Speaker 3: game matters most, right? When the game matters most, if
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  Speaker 3: the scenario that I laid out plays out, in which
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  Speaker 3: Jaquan doesn't get the pick, you went three and out
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  Speaker 3: in overtime and then lost. That's another thing too.
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  Speaker 4: And let's go back to that. Yeah. Let's go back
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  Speaker 4: to that game. You scored 20 points in the first half,
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  Speaker 4: 20 of your 33 in the first half. The Bills
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  Speaker 4: scored 10. They flipped the script on you in the
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  Speaker 4: second half. You kicked a field goal in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 4: You had a touch in the fourth quarter. And then
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  Speaker 4: you got the Jaquan pick in OT. Yeah. So it's
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  Speaker 4: not like they came on like gangbusters. The Buffalo Bills
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  Speaker 4: gave that mile away. They did. No offense to anybody.
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  Speaker 4: And you're right, Vic. After the pick, they had to
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  Speaker 4: drive down, get in field goal range, and kick the
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  Speaker 4: field goal. You're 100% correct. But it felt like... It
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  Speaker 4: felt like they were going to lose. It really did,
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  Speaker 4: because the Bills started rolling in the second half, especially
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  Speaker 4: that fourth quarter when they put up 13 of their own.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, nobody, no.
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  Speaker 4: And then they just gave, I mean, if they don't,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to tell you, Vic, you're right, but boy,
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  Speaker 4: it felt a lot different than it really was.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how nobody remembers this play. It's, to me,
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  Speaker 3: the play that changed the entire game. It would have
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  Speaker 3: won the Bills the game. It was third and 10.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I know what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: With 16 seconds left.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Dawson Knox was wide open for a walk-in touchdown, and
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  Speaker 3: Allen just missed him.
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  Speaker 4: Missed him.
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  Speaker 3: Just straight up missed a... You couldn't get more wide
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  Speaker 3: open than Dawson.
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  Speaker 6: Did he overthrow him? Or underthrow him?
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  Speaker 3: I gotta go back and watch. I think it was
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  Speaker 3: an overthrow. Like, I think he got too excited. Allen Knox...
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  Speaker 3: I got to find this video and send it to
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  Speaker 3: Nelly because I do want to watch this again.
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  Speaker 4: So then when we're talking about this kind of thing, Vic,
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  Speaker 4: you're not going to convince me that Bo Nix is
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  Speaker 4: a better quarterback than Josh Allen. Well, that's not. I know,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean, despite the argument. OK, if Josh Allen
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  Speaker 4: was our quarterback, I'd be excited.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you got me a little off. You started
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  Speaker 6: getting all nerdy and geeky on me and bringing up QBR.
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  Speaker 6: And it bothers me when people try to argue that.
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  Speaker 4: QBR is in ratings.
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  Speaker 6: Go outside, nerd.
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  Speaker 4: I want you to look this up right now, live
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  Speaker 4: on the air. Live.
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  Speaker 6: Ready?
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  Speaker 4: Get in front of your laptop. John Elway's career QBR.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody already pointed that out, Vic. I'm telling you.
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  Speaker 3: It's a different era.
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  Speaker 4: The game was so much more difficult for quarterbacks back
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  Speaker 4: in that day.
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  Speaker 6: Compare it to Dan Marino of that era. Compare it
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  Speaker 6: to Jim Kelly of that era.
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  Speaker 4: Compare his QBR to other quarterbacks of that era. All right,
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  Speaker 4: let me look it up.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: So I don't want to get, you know, the nerds,
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  Speaker 6: and I get it, stats mean something. But I tell
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  Speaker 6: you what means more. Can you win a game when
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  Speaker 6: the pressure is at its peak? When everybody expects you
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  Speaker 6: to lose. Can you win a game in the fourth quarter?
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  Speaker 4: Marino's career passer rating is 86.4. Elway's, what, 79 point something.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not that far off. What about Jim Kelly?
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  Speaker 4: What about all the other players?
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  Speaker 6: Contemporaries of that era. The point is, I can give
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  Speaker 6: you a stat about anything. I mean, if you're going
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  Speaker 6: to throw me QBR, I'll give you Brett's stat that
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  Speaker 6: he's given us 40 times on this show. No quarterback
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  Speaker 6: has been better at protecting the football, not turning it over,
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  Speaker 6: not taking sacks over the last two years than Bo Nix.
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  Speaker 4: Number one in the league.
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  Speaker 3: 39 times, thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. So, I've got a stat for every stat you
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  Speaker 6: give me. If every quarterback's stat is going to.
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  Speaker 4: Be, QBR, what about QBR? You know what?
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  Speaker 6: What's his QBR in the fourth quarter when you're down
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  Speaker 6: a touchdown and you have the ball?
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to take a QBR. I'll tell you what
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  Speaker 4: you can do with it. His highest passer rating ever
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  Speaker 4: was 92.8. That was 93 when he threw for 4,030 yards,
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  Speaker 4: 25 touches, 10 picks. His career was 79.9. Marino's high
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  Speaker 4: is 108. I get it, but Marino, again, was allowed
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  Speaker 4: to throw the ball a lot more, too. Let me
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  Speaker 4: tell you something, man.
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  Speaker 6: The Denver Broncos won their very first Super Bowl. Their
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  Speaker 6: very first. I was there. In a game in which
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  Speaker 6: John Elway's numbers were so pedestrian and so god-awful that
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  Speaker 6: if you looked at his pure numbers, you'd say, well,
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  Speaker 6: they got blown out. What happened with Peyton Manning's Super
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  Speaker 6: Bowl here for the Broncos? The point is, quit referencing
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  Speaker 6: numbers as the end-all.
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  Speaker 4: I'm... Brett... With God as my witness, and I'm making
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  Speaker 4: you an assistant. I'm God? You're an assistant God right now.
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  Speaker 4: You're not the God, you're a God. Okay. Did I
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  Speaker 4: ever hang everything on these numbers, the QBR? No. With Bonix? No.
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  Speaker 6: You reached into your leather wristband and pulled out a
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  Speaker 6: stat as if you've been sitting on it for a while.
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  Speaker 3: It does have a pouch in there.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to. So here's Tobias again. Moj, I declare,
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  Speaker 4: if Bo Nix has a 500-plus yard, 5 TD game,
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  Speaker 4: you're not allowed to be excited. Yes, I can be.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what, Tobias, if that ever happens, ever,
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  Speaker 4: from this point until the end of time in his career,
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  Speaker 4: I will buy you a bottle of your favorite whiskey.
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  Speaker 3: I want you guys to watch something. This is what
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking about. 16 seconds left, divisional playoffs. The game
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  Speaker 3: is 30-27. The Broncos are up.
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  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: They're at the 32-yard line.
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  Speaker 4: They're spread wide. Look at the Bills. They are spread wide.
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  Speaker 3: Bills have one timeout left. They're trying to run a
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  Speaker 3: play to either get closer or give them a shot
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  Speaker 3: at a touchdown before the end of the game. Run it, Nelly.
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  Speaker 3: So Josh Allen takes a snap. Dawson Knox has found
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  Speaker 3: open space. At the 10-yard line, he's overthrown by Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 6: There was some traffic there.
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  Speaker 4: Sertan was there.
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  Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on. He makes this catch at the 10.
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  Speaker 3: He's at least getting to what, the 5?
• 15:36
  Speaker 8: Sure.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: At minimum. Spike the ball, and they're going to be
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: able to run it. No, timeout. Oh, timeout.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Call a timeout. They could have another play. All I'm
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: saying is, look at this. He makes the catch here.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Because there probably would have been 9 seconds, 8 seconds left.
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: That throw should have been to the inside shoulder.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, Sertan might catch him at the 2.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: You're right. Maybe.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: But it's possibly a touchdown to end the game. to
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: ruin the Broncos' hopes and dreams. And nobody talks about
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: this play. That's an example of, to Vic's credit, that's
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen when you need your guy to make a play.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: He just air-mailed that ball.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Air-mailed the ball under the pressure.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Yep, he did.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, and that play would have ended everything. We
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: would have a completely different conversation about this year, about
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Bo Nix, about a whole bunch of stuff.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Hey, do you have... They had five guys in the pattern.
• 16:24
  Speaker 6: Do you have... All right, so the... The interception happens
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: in overtime. The Broncos get the ball back.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Yes. And they've got to go the length of the
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: field to get in field goal range.
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: How did they get that?
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: With Will Lutz, though, it's not the length of the field.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: That guy can boot it. That guy's got a hell
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: of a leg. Still got to move the ball. God,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: this nose hair is driving me crazy.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Um... I'll tell you what, we can get back to
• 16:47
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• 16:52
  Speaker 3: in just a couple of minutes. Stick around.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: Stop jumping my.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I can't stop watching that. I just showed it to Raj.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I can't stop watching that play. I'm like, do you
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: know how many things change? If that pass is completed
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: to Dawson Knox, how many different things change about this offseason?
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: How do you feel about.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: How things change in life.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Just life.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: Hey, NBA move just happened, and I want to bring
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: it up because we can comp it to what the
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: Nuggets went through with Peyton Watson. But according to Shams,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: Benedict Matherin is signing with New Orleans?
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Two years? $ 16 million? What?
• 17:30
  Speaker 6: I'm struggling to understand this because last I checked, he's
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: a restricted free agent. And I thought that if you
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: sign a deal... with another team as a restricted free agent.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: It has to be a minimum of three years. So
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: now he's agreed to a two-year, $ 16 million deal with
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: New Orleans as a member of the Clippers signed away
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: by New Orleans. I don't know how they're getting around
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: this three-year deal, but whatever.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Is it a sign-in trade? I don't know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: This is all I've learned from this. But two things
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: strike me. Two things strike me. What do you guys
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: think of Benedict Mathren as a player? I think he's
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: really fun to watch.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I think he's okay. Okay.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: Ask yourself this. How is he only worth two years,
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: 16 mil, eight mil a year, and Peyton Watson's worth
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: 22 mil a year?
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Is Peyton Watson and potentially be a do-it-all guy? He
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: can be a guy who scores, shoots threes, and plays really,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: really good defense with length and size.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: But in terms of scoring the basketball, Mather is not a, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: But in terms of scoring the basketball, Mather is not a,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: he's not a punk. No, he's good. The guy can
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: get 20 plus on any given night.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Easy.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: I guess my argument is this goes to show you
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: how much of a gamble and how unscientific this free
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: agency things really is. I mean, In Utah, you give
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: up your starting center for four firsts, two swaps. In Denver,
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: you give up a young promising player and you let
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: him walk. He gets $ 22 million and you get a
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: first and a second. In L.A., two years, $ 16 million
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: is enough to sign Benedict Matherin?
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, so hang on a second. I think you're missing
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: what I think is the weirdest part of this story.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Benedict Matherin signed a two-year, $ 16 million deal with the Pelicans.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: He had a qualifying offer for 8.8.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: Yes, which was more per year.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: He took less money per year.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, but for the extra year of that contract.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: For a team that sucks... I don't think that the
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Clippers are going to be great or anything.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: But you're talking about $ 16 million versus $ 8. 8 million. Because
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: it's a one-year qualifying offer.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: He scored 17 points a night his entire career. And
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: it's been five years. Or four years.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Four years.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I don't get this at all.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Me neither.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: At all. Now, Vic, maybe a way around this. Shams
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: said it's a two-year, $ 16 million deal, including a player option.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Does that mean a third year? Does that mean the
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: player option is the second year?
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know. But I'll ask you this.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: Would you rather have on your roster Benedict Matherin or
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Peyton Watson?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Peyton Watson.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Peyton Watson. But I would take Benedict Matherin immediately.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Hey, the beignets in New Orleans just hit better. Maybe
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: it's psychological. Because they are frigging good, dude. You get
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: a little glass of champagne and a beignet, bro, from
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: one of them little beignet shops.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: You guys were quick to say Peyton Watson, but do
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: the stats comps on these guys.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Well, I think the potential there is for P. Watt.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: With P. Watt, Vic, you're gambling, I guess, on the
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: potential of what this guy could be. His upside, in
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: my opinion, is far better than Benedict Matherin's.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: I don't disagree with you.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, so that's what you're betting on.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: But I'm giving you resumes.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Here's a resume. The NBA decided Peyton Watson was worth
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: three times the amount he's making per year.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: You are what the market says you are. That's what
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I'm getting at.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: Three times the amount. And you are who your agent is,
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: and you are whatever leverage you have. That's what you're worth.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: But again, Matherin can't really play defense anymore. The great
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: thing about Pewatt is that he can at a very
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: high level. And that's why I always thought the safety thing,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: and I don't, maybe.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I didn't get this across.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: DeMar DeRozan really is in a defensive stalwart, and he's
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: coming off a max contract.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Well, DeMar DeRozan's the 18th leading point scorer in NBA history.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: I know, but I mean, the whole concept of doesn't
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: play defense, that doesn't work, because I can name you
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: 20 players who don't play defense and make max money.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, but that's not Benedict Matherin.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: You're saying that you have to play defense to make
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: money in the league. I'm saying you don't. No, I didn't.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I said the appeal with Peyton
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Watson is that he can play defense. And the reason
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: why I liked him here especially is that at the
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: very worst, what you'd get is somebody who plays really
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: good defense. And last I checked, this team doesn't have
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of good defense.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: He can elevate. He can run the floor terrifically.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Spencer Jones is on this roster and was as a
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: two-way player for one reason. He played better defense than
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: pretty much anybody else on the floor.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: Pretty much.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Because he tried. I mean, to a certain extent, like
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: he put effort into it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Watch this.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Hey, Vic.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Which sandwich? Mortadella or muffaletta?
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: Neither. I hate both. I hate mortadella.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Mortadella is like the Italian spam. See, now I find
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: it quite good. Now, I didn't have to eat it
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: every day for lunch for 12 years. What are you
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: getting out of here? Oh, just New Orleans has great food, man.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: But Matherin's going to have a great....
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: You're getting caught up on the wrong details, this Matherin thing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Bull crap, man. I'd rather live in New Orleans than L.A.,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I can promise you that. I know Zion can.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: Argue that New Orleans has great food.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Well, no, no, no. This is off-season Zion. Zion in
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the off-season does not partake in New Orleans food.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Have you guys seen the new videos that have emerged
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: of Luka in the off-season?
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Even slimmer than he was?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: Hey, man, Jambalaya. I like Jambalaya better than gumbo.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Enough with the New Orleans food.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: I love it down there, bro.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: Nobody cares.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, they do. Everybody loves it. I love it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: I love New Orleans.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: I'm here to say it. You know what? If I
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: was Matherin, I would take Les to sign with the
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Pelicans in a crap team. Yes, I would. And Squeezy,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: what's the name of that place? Squeezy Juice.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Smoothie King.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Squeezy Juice Arena.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: For a guy who scores 17 points a night from
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: the guard position, that does seem low.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: It's incredibly low.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Now she makes eight.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: This whole restricted free agency thing is crazy to me.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: It's crazy. You just never know what you're going to get.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: You're worth whatever a team thinks you're worth, and that's it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: There's going to be one team that likes you. There
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: could be 30 teams that like you.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, here it is. Matherin's deficiency report centers around inconsistent
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: perimeter shooting, questions regarding his defensive efforts, and a limited
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: playmaking role outside of primary scoring. That's why you get
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: eight and not 22.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. And that's kind of what I'm getting at
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: here is you have, I don't know, he's one of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: those guys, he's capable of going like 7 of 10
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: from three-point range and then capable of going 1 of
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: 25 for four straight games.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: You're right, but I mean, I've seen games where he's
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: put up, yeah, 28, 29. You're like, wow. He goes off.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: He's that guy that played for Brooklyn that lit it
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: up and he took the NBA by storm for a
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: month and he was scoring and drove Cam.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, what was that guy?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: No, what's his last name?
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: Not Griffin. Cam. Look up Cam for Brooklyn, not formerly
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: Cam Johnson. And he was making buckets like he was
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: just a walking bucket. But for some reason, it didn't
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: translate to a big contract.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Well, Vic, again. Cam Thomas?
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: Cam Thomas.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: That's it. Vic, I've seen guys in the National Hockey League.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I did this. I saw this especially when I did
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: minor league games. Hmm. And why guys are in the
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: league and why guys are not in the league. Or
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: why guys are on the second line and not on
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: the fourth line, not the second line. Everybody can do,
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: even minor league guys, even in the ECHL, everybody can
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: do something really well at an NHL level. Whether it's skating, shot, hands,
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: whatever it may be. But that's kind of all they
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: can do. And so at that level, they can succeed.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: And their defensive coverage is good enough to succeed at
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: that level, but you try to move up and you
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: can't do it, or the speed or whatever it may be.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: But everybody can do something. And so this guy like
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Cam Thomas, yeah, he had a month where he filled
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: it up, but he can't do anything else, and then
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: that goes away.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: So earlier in the show, we played some Micah Porter Jr.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: audio from his podcast. He was talking about what he
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: thought was the downfall of the Nuggets was, and he goes,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: it started when they let go of KCP. Whatever you
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: feel about that, fine. But him and Lonzo Ball talked
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: about something else, too. And I wanted to play this yesterday,
• 26:49
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• 26:52
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• 26:53
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• 26:53
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• 26:57
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay. Like, Nelly's, like, Vic, I'm getting got because
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  Speaker 5: From a couple days ago go ahead for a billion
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  Speaker 3: Michael Porter Jr. asked the question, you push a button,
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  Speaker 3: you get a billion dollars, but a random person dies.
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  Speaker 3: Do you push the button? Here's what I love. Porter's
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: going to rationalize it by saying, hey, if I get
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  Speaker 3: the billion dollars, I could save multiple lives by getting
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: that money. And I love that Lonzo just goes, I'm
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: taking the billions.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: That's a very interesting moral dilemma type of question. I
• 29:40
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• 29:42
  Speaker 4: So why not, you know? If I could pick the person?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: No, you can't pick.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: But if I could, I would easily press the button.
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  Speaker 3: I think that makes you a worse person if you
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  Speaker 3: could pick.
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  Speaker 4: No, because there are bad people in this world that
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  Speaker 4: I would like to take out.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I see, I see.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: You see what I mean? So you'd hit the button
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  Speaker 8: billion dollars see you later ex-wife like.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: You know no no I'm talking about like you know
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• 30:22
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• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Oh my god I just, I'm telling you. What made
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you go there? Why did you go there?
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: There's something so funny about you get a billion dollars,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: but somebody dies. And Lonzo just taking the billion. Don't
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: care who.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: But I can see Porter's logic with three or 400 million.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Let's say you keep 600, 600, 700. With three or four,
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: you could, yeah, I mean, the logic is I could
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: help a lot more people with that money and save
• 30:58
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I could be responsible for killing somebody.
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: You didn't. They got a bad mosquito bite. It's not
• 31:04
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• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Would you kill a random person? It could be the
• 31:11
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• 31:13
  Speaker 4: I would pay a billion to bring Dolly Parton back.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Vic, you pushing that button?
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: Are you a button pusher? I still have.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Don't want to talk about it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: What, you've done this in the past.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Before?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: PTSD for you?
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Funny you should mention it, Brett. The devil came to
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: me about three years ago, and we had the same discussion.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: I have trouble, like my wife yesterday, step on the...
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: She says she's in the garage, and she's barefoot. She goes, hey,
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: this wasp is here. Step on this wasp. Put it
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: out of its misery. I couldn't do it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, I can do that with bugs.
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: I couldn't do it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I'm from Nebraska. I've never hunted. I can't do it.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: It's not so much the act of shooting a deer.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: It's wounding it first, not getting a clean shot. That
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: would freak me out.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Let me preface. I have no problem with hunting. I
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: come from a family of hunters. They lived off the land.
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: I saw my dad spear a large hog.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he went hogging. I was 12 years old. Coincidentally, Brett.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: I'm always comping hogging.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: How was high school?
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: I was 12 years old. Maybe 10. I'm at my
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: cousin Joe and Ralph's house in their backyard. Joe got
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: this BB gun. He said, let's go to the backyard
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: and shoot some things. I'm like, okay. I'd never used
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: a BB gun. And right there I could still see
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: it perched on top of What do you call those
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: old lines that they used to dry clothes? Clothes lines?
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Remember those? Those backwards clothes, backyard clothes lines we used
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: to have? Perched on top of this clothes line was
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: a small bird just staring at me. It was about
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: 20 feet away. I measure and fire. And the BB
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: went right through the bird's chest. And I could still
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: see to this day this bird looking at me, directly
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: at me, directly at my face saying, why?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: Why'd you shoot a pretty bird, Vic? Why would you
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: do that? And ever since then, I would never, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: just can't. It's, it's, it's, I've carried that image with me,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: that moment with me that, I don't call me soft,
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: but why? It was just staring, and it still stares
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: at me.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Vic, what if I told you you had to go
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: out and shoot another beautiful bird right between its little
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: pretty eyes? But I give you a billion dollars.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: I'll give you a billion. That image would go away
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: pretty quickly. All right. But I wasn't making a billion.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: 303.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: No, you were just being a jerk.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Yes. 303-504-0925.
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: Back after this.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Hey, if you guys missed it from yesterday, the Rockies
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: win 3-1 over the Nats. They're now 51-81 on the year.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: They need 12 more wins before the end of the
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: season to break 100.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: They've got, what, 32 games left?
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: 12. No, 31 games left. 31 games left.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: So if they lose 99, it's a win?
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a win. Kind of.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Stay out of the triple digits, baby. But if you
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: didn't see it last night, The player who got the
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: start was a man by the name of Mason Adams.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Made his first career start in the bigs. He was
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: acquired in the Bretton Doyle trade. So he goes, I
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: didn't leave him out there too long. Four innings, three hits,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: one earned, three walks, 5K. So a nice little debut
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: from somebody new.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Don't you like that when the team doesn't have a
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: book on a guy and he has kind of go
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: out there and deal a little bit and kind of
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: work his way into the bigs? I like that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, you asked the question, Vic. I do mean this.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I guess it's the only thing I have to hold
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: on to right now to keep me quasi-interested in the Rockies.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: I think it does matter to me if they don't
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: lose 100 games. I think it does matter. Okay. Especially
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: given how last season went.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Well, listen to me.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want another consecutive year in the 100 losses.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: There's something about, you know, a nice double-digit number that
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: makes me feel better.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: This is me telling Vic not to be dour? Can't
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: believe it. Now, again, I'm not watching every Rockies game,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: and I, you know, but Brett, what he's been saying
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: all year long, Vic, is correct, and that is it's
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: a more fun team to watch. They are. And I
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: got out of the car last night. I'm like, oh,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: my God, Hunter Goodman hit his 35th of the season today.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I'm like, the Rockies shouldn't be this bad. They shouldn't
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: be a 100-loss team again. They shouldn't be.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Well, the thing about the– I'm not even going to
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: do it because you guys are going to call me
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: a nerd and get mad at me for wasting your
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: time with me.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: No, please, nerd out.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: No, because I'm going to talk about war, and you
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: guys don't want to hear about war.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: I ain't got time to be distracted by your war.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: Listen, the Strait of Hormuz is not open. We're not
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: going there.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I ain't asking for the world here.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Can I ask you guys, maybe this isn't a subject
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: to have on this radio show, but can I ask
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: you something? Is that straight open or not? What's going
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: on with that straight?
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: We'll go test it. Go water ski in there and
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: see what happens.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Every two days I hear, it's open. I thought it
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: was open already. I was like, well, it was, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: then it wasn't, and it is again.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Why don't you get your little Chris Craft and get
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: on out there and... What if, like, some frat house...
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: What's the deal with the straight?
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: It looks pretty crooked to me.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: It's not actually straight. It weaves.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: What if a CU frat house had a let's water
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: ski the straight of Hormuz weekend? And they went out
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: there with their boats and said, we're going to jet
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: ski and water ski.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Well, what happened? Remember what you did to that bird?
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: Right to jail. Right away. Same thing that happened with
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: what you did to that bird. That's what happened.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: You can't keep telling me it's open. Every two days
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: it's open.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Well, part of it, it depends on where you're at,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I guess, man.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest, guys. I don't know what
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: straight-a-whore moves is. I just hear people talking about it
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: Bunch of hogwash.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: You could never even pick it on a map.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I can say this or not.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Here, there's something to do with it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: I tell you, this is all I know.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: I like paying $ 4. 50 for gas.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: That's a little crazy.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: Brett, keep talking. I need to talk to you. Play
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: some music real quick while I talk to one of you.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: What do you mean, play some music?
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: It's all right.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: We got it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: We got it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: Dude, it took me $ 6. 09 to film my Vespa yesterday. Yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: I did.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: 609. Is that a funny joke?
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: No.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Can I tell that joke?
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: No, you can't tell that joke. And no, it's not
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: worth the time. Let me tell you something right now.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Watch Nelly's face.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: I need this.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I need this gas to go down. It's killing me.
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: It's killing me. So you know what? Go open that
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: straight permanently.
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: I don't need to hear two days. You like that one, Steve? Good.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: It's pretty good, not going to lie.
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: Nothing better radio than an inside joke that's not delivered
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: to everybody.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Now, was that better than me trying to explain why
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: war was important for the Rockies lineup to you guys
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: or no?
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, actually it was.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: That was better?
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Yes. Hey, look, man.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Because all war means, it just says, do you have
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: an MLB caliber player?
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: And the Rockies have. And they do.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: But they didn't last year. They had only two guys.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: One really in Hunter Goodman.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Brett, I'm just hovering around the Rockies over here. I'm
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: orbiting their system, keeping an eye on them, just sort
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: of orbiting, keeping an eye on them, whether or not
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: they get to 100 losses. That's it. But you're correct.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: They're a much more enjoyable team to watch. They do
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: things that they haven't done in a while, and you
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: hope that they continue to grow. Hang on.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: This is from.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: This is from like the beginning of this hour. I
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: just saw it now on ESPN.com.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: The buses.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: The people who owned the Lakers, right? Who just sold
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: the Lakers. I have this right? Whole family full of buses.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: They all sold their share. They own no stock, no
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: percentages in the Lakers anymore.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: Right? Well, I don't know because the sales isn't fully
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: complete yet because Jeannie Buss doesn't want to sell.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Well, Buss Sports Capital just joined the Kwanzaa Jones and
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Jose Feliciano Padres ownership group. Two of the brothers, Joey
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: and Jesse Buss.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Have not joined it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Joey and Jesse.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: What's going on here?
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: What do you mean, what's going on?
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I thought they just got out of the sports business
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: and they're back in the sports ownership business.
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: I told you why it pays to be in the
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: sports ownership business. We've discussed this on the show.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: His values only go up in amortization.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but why not just keep your Lakers stock then?
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: I think it was an agreement to get out of
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: the Lakers business. A family agreement. We're going to get
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: out of the Lakers. Put it somewhere else.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: The Bus Brothers continue to pursue an ownership stake in
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: the upcoming NBA Europe League as well.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Hey, not enough people are talking about this NBA Europe League,
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: by the way.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: This is a big deal. A bigger deal.
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: You know, the NFL likes to claim, oh, we're going
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: to have a team in Europe someday.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, blah, blah, blah.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Listen, I've been to Europe many times.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Mojo F2. Football in Europe is, a lot of people have,
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: they're interested in watching it, but in terms of people
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: playing football, nobody plays football in Europe.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: A lot of hoopers over there. But basketball?
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: Basketball? Much different beast. This NBA Europe is going.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: To be a big deal. And it's supposed to come in.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: For who?
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: It's supposed to come in next year in 2027 with
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: 16 teams.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: For who? For everybody involved.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: For Europe?
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: For players? If NBA Europe grows to a point where
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: the money is close to the NBA or just a
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: tier below it, a lot of those European-born players ain't coming.
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: They're staying.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: No, because they can make... Look, they can't make Jokic
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: money in NBA Europe. What do you mean?
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Not now, but.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: We just saw it. Valanciunas just went back to Europe
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: for less money. He wanted to go to Greece for
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: less money. I'm telling you, a lot of these dudes
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: want to stay home. They don't want to come to America.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I understand.
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: They come here for the money, but if there's enough
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: money to be had there, they'll stay home.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: But it's the same thing with American-born soccer players.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: If you can get Premier League money, you get Premier
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: League money.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: But if you make enough to stay home, you'll stay home. True.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I guess what I'm saying is, I don't know.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I guess I'll believe when I see it that this
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: NBA Europe League is going to have a huge effect
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: on the NBA. I still think if you are good
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: enough to make the NBA and you're not like the
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: 14th guy on the bench, but you're like a rotational player.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Four years from now, if we're still doing this show
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: And I've got my feet propped up on an ottoman
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: outside the Amalfi Coast. And I'm working with the Napoli
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: basketball team. Can you open up the Strait of Hormuz
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: while you're over there? In some capacity. We'll bring the
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: subject back up again.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: Okay. Strait of your mom.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: What?
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: Nothing.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: That's a setup. Hey, Vic, if you... I'll tell you what.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: If this happens and they have a team in Naples, Napoli,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: I promise you I will come visit you. Brett, you
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: can't believe how beautiful that part of the world is.
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: In the words of Nikola Jokic, you will not find me.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: I'll find you. I'll just... I'll learn this much Italian.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Have you seen the small man yelling about the nuggets lately?
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I need to find him.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: He's right over there. He's right down the street.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Our qualifier for the 9 a.m. hour is Bailey Davidson.
• 43:32
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• 43:37
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• 43:43
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• 43:48
  Speaker 8: Vic, I just wish I had a fraction of the
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: speed of the brain processing power that you have. This
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: was a clip earlier when you were telling us the
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: story about when you had to go face to face
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: with that bird and make it an offer it couldn't refuse.
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: And you just did some math. Lickety split here.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: And right there, I could still see it perched on
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: top of, what do you call those old lines that
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: they used to draw clothes? Clothes lines?
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you got it, buddy. Those lines that they used
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: for clothes? They're called clothes lines.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I thought you were going to another thing, which was.
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: Oh, what he talked about what his dad did?
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: I saw my dad spear a large hog.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Not that one either. It was more of this when
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: you were talking about brain processing power. Vic, what do
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: you got for Oh, By The Way? And there was
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: just three seconds of silence? That one.
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: I just went into the trust tree, and I gave
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: you my soul, and you guys are making fun of it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Is this where I talk about the lottery?
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: I saw my dad spear a large hog. All right,
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: let me tell you something.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: This show today, I'll give it maybe a C-..
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: This went sideways. We're going to start grading our shows
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: after every one. This is C-. It went south the moment...
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: Mosher walked in with a leather wristband. Let's admit it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: Let's make that admission right now. It's true.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: It was worse than yesterday's show. In yesterday's show, I
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: opened up talking about an owner in a trailer park
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: looking for prostitutes.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, Mosher, you think you're going to walk in,
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: wear that, and not think we're going to talk about it?
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Why do you see me tomorrow?
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: Hi.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Please dress like Dog the Bounty Hunter tomorrow.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: iTunes, Spotify, Mosher Lombardi and Kane.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: He's actually a very nice man.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Have a wonderful day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Love you. See you.