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Gibson debuts, but O's lose again · Birdland Territory

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  Speaker 1: It has been a tough weekend for the Orioles in
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  Speaker 1: New York. We knew going in on paper it didn't
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  Speaker 1: look great, and unfortunately Birdland on the field has played
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  Speaker 1: out that way for three days. Trey Gibson made a
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  Speaker 1: certainly a credible debut. We're going to get into that
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  Speaker 1: a lot during the show. But the Orioles have lost
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  Speaker 1: again to the Yankees. It got away from Kittrich late
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  Speaker 1: eleven three, they fall, and guys, you're really reeling here.
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  Speaker 1: This is not what they wanted fifteen and nineteen. It's
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  Speaker 1: a season low four games under five hundred and eight
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  Speaker 1: games out of first in early May. The Yankees are
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  Speaker 1: separating themselves from everybody, including the Orioles, which has been
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  Speaker 1: a little disappointing in Birdland here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a tough weekend for sure. Like you said,
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  Speaker 2: I think Ben McDonald kind of wrapped it up great
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  Speaker 2: on the broadcast has kind of said the Yankees have
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  Speaker 2: been better in every phase of the game, and watching
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  Speaker 2: that these first three games, there's no disputing that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they've been out pitched, out hit, and outfielded for these
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  Speaker 2: three games. Unfortunately for the Orioles and for the fans,
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  Speaker 2: But you know, you got to go out tomorrow and
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  Speaker 2: you got to face one of the better pitchers and
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  Speaker 2: hopefully come out with a win and kind of salvage
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  Speaker 2: this four game series in New York. But like you said,
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  Speaker 2: it's been an ugly weekend, but you just got to
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  Speaker 2: keep going out there and you never know what can
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  Speaker 2: happen tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been really really tough watching the first three
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  Speaker 3: games of this series because, like you said, Brad mentioning
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  Speaker 3: what Ben said that they've been outclassed by the Yankees
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  Speaker 3: so far through these first three games. In the first
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  Speaker 3: two games especially, were very uncompetitive. This game, it got
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  Speaker 3: away from them late, but it was, you know, a
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  Speaker 3: very winnable ball game through the first seven innings or so.
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  Speaker 3: But unfortunately, it's just more of the broken record, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of situations where the defense self inflict, the mistakes
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  Speaker 3: giving base runners an extra ninety feet. Errors were there,
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  Speaker 3: and the bats just not doing enough and they had
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  Speaker 3: their chances. I think that's what was so frustrating about
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  Speaker 3: the game today, Steve, was the fact that Max Freed
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  Speaker 3: he was far from his a game today and the
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  Speaker 3: Orioles were making him work and he was throwing a
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  Speaker 3: lot of pitches. Theo's got the leadoff man on in
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  Speaker 3: seven of the first eight innings, but only had three
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  Speaker 3: runs to show for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to the fourth inning. Bases loaded,
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  Speaker 1: no outs, bases loaded, I believe still with one out,
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  Speaker 1: that was the inning to put the hammer down. They
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  Speaker 1: scored two runs to tie it, but that felt like
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  Speaker 1: a four or five run inning. They just can't get
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  Speaker 1: that double in the gap when they needed right now,
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  Speaker 1: no matter who's up, it seems like, and you're right, Tim,
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  Speaker 1: Max Freed was not nearly at his best today. He
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  Speaker 1: was there for the taking. He was begging the Orioles
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  Speaker 1: to take it from him, and they couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe that's a veteran brad who finds some way
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  Speaker 1: when he's not at his best. But it just felt
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  Speaker 1: like the Orioles really had a chance in the fourth
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  Speaker 1: to put the hammer down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: I think it has more to do with Max Freed
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  Speaker 2: being an ace type pitcher and kind of just limiting
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  Speaker 2: damage there. Like you said, it could have been a
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  Speaker 2: four or five inning run inning, like we've seen some
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  Speaker 2: ore pitchers kind of get in that spot and it
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  Speaker 2: seems to go the opposite direction where they give up
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  Speaker 2: the four or five run spot.
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  Speaker 4: But Max is a professional who's.
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  Speaker 2: Been around a long time, and he's getting paid a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money to do this, and he got out
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  Speaker 2: of there with two runs and kept the game tied
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  Speaker 2: at that point, and I guess that's what they're paying
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  Speaker 2: them for, is to kind of just limit the damage
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  Speaker 2: and go out there and put up I mean, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't have his a game at all today. At one point,
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  Speaker 2: I think he had thrown twenty change ups and thrown
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  Speaker 2: eighteen for balls. He had one swing and miss and
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  Speaker 2: one foul ball or something like that. And when he's
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  Speaker 2: pitching like that, you just really got to take advantage
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  Speaker 2: of it. And they were close, but they weren't able
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  Speaker 2: to really, you know, knock the door down and get
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  Speaker 2: frunds there when they needed it in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 3: This was a situation where the offense really needed to
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  Speaker 3: pick up Trey Gibson, who was making his first start,
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  Speaker 3: first outing in the big than. They were talking about
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  Speaker 3: it on the broadcast. He's the first Orioles starting pitcher
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  Speaker 3: to make their MLB debut in Yankee Stadium, So it
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't happen, and when Freed's off, the offense certainly
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  Speaker 3: has to pick it up. And we saw Craig Aalbernaz
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  Speaker 3: tried out a very different lineup today.
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  Speaker 5: It was alright, he's one through nine.
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  Speaker 3: Gunnar Henderson was sitting for the first time all year,
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  Speaker 3: but they just weren't able to get big hit and
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  Speaker 3: we saw Jeremiah Jackson, who's playing the role of hero
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  Speaker 3: a ton this season, he had a tough day, you know,
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  Speaker 3: grounding into a couple of double plays.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, you.
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  Speaker 3: Look back at some of the guys that they brought in,
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  Speaker 3: Tyler O'Neill, going back to last year. You're still waiting
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  Speaker 3: to see him get going. And we know injuries have
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  Speaker 3: been a big factor for him, but a big reason
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  Speaker 3: you brought him in was because he's a guy that
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  Speaker 3: can do damage against left handed hitting, and he was
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  Speaker 3: hitless today.
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  Speaker 1: We mentioned the other day the time for the stars
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  Speaker 1: to step up, and one of them has. It's Pete Alonzo,
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  Speaker 1: who's had a pretty good series in New York. He's
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  Speaker 1: four for ten with two homereds and a double. But
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  Speaker 1: Gunner didn't start today, just got a day off. One
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  Speaker 1: for eight has fanned four ward is one for ten
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  Speaker 1: Atlezo for twelve. So guys they've been counting on and
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  Speaker 1: who've been starting to really carry the mail here have
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  Speaker 1: not done it in New York. And again they can't
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  Speaker 1: count on Tavars and Jeremiah Jackson to do it every day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes it tough to win when you're the
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  Speaker 2: stars are counting on to put up certain numbers just
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  Speaker 2: aren't just doing it together.
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  Speaker 4: And I know I mentioned earlier that where.
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  Speaker 2: You kind of want a couple of them to carry
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  Speaker 2: the load and out all together. But when you going
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  Speaker 2: to New York and you know you're playing the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: that are the best team in the American League at
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  Speaker 2: this point, you're gonna need those guys to step up,
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  Speaker 2: and that's who you. Pete's done his job, and unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: the other guys have had a tough series, and it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of where you're at. You lose three in a
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  Speaker 2: row and you don't have everybody kind of stepping up
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  Speaker 2: when they need to, and you just wish you had
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  Speaker 2: just a couple hits from those guys there to just
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  Speaker 2: kind of get things jump started a little bit, and
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  Speaker 2: they just haven't been able to find their footing here
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  Speaker 2: so far in this Yankee series.
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  Speaker 1: Greg almern as again in his postgame interview, guys very
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  Speaker 1: blunt about the team, and I like that, but it's
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  Speaker 1: got into wins soon. He's acknowledging how dire it is,
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  Speaker 1: and he even said something like, you know, we're either gonna,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm paraphrasing here, crawl up in the corner or
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  Speaker 1: we're going to rise up and do something about it
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  Speaker 1: and get this season back. And that tim it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of too early for like panic or but it's not
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  Speaker 1: for sense of urgency and where this team is at.
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  Speaker 5: We were staying to turn the last episode.
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  Speaker 3: Steve, I firmly believe you're you're going to have a
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  Speaker 3: very good idea of how this season is going to
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  Speaker 3: turn out by the end of May, just because of
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  Speaker 3: the amount of games you're going against the Al East
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  Speaker 3: in seventeen games. They got another series against the Yankees,
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  Speaker 3: you know, next week, so you're going to be tested.
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  Speaker 3: They've only faced four games so far heading into this
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  Speaker 3: series against teams with winning records. That steps up a
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  Speaker 3: lot when you face the Rays and the Yankees multiple times,
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  Speaker 3: and it kind of gets back to what we were
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  Speaker 3: saying Brad At a minimum, you got to be able
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  Speaker 3: to tread water.
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  Speaker 5: You've got to be able to just stay in the mix.
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  Speaker 5: And I know that you use that quote the other day.
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  Speaker 3: If you can be around five hundred by Memorial Day
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  Speaker 3: and then you can go on a run. This team
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  Speaker 3: has to find a way to tread water. And you
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  Speaker 3: get it, they're under manned, but a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: are dealing with injuries. You gotta find a way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, even look at today's game with the Yankees.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Rice went out in the middle of that game,
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  Speaker 2: so you lose a huge, huge beat there in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the lineup, and their lineup still got big
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  Speaker 2: hits there in the eighth inning to really just kind
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  Speaker 2: of open the game up. And like you're saying, with
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  Speaker 2: the schedule coming up here and you're kind of looking
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  Speaker 2: at the Blue Jays catching their footing.
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  Speaker 4: You just can't follow that far behind these.
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  Speaker 2: Teams, especially when you know you're gonna have to play
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  Speaker 2: them thirteen games during the regular season. And you see
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  Speaker 2: where the Yankees are, you know what they're gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: But the Blue Jays are starting to show what everybody
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  Speaker 2: kind of expected them to be this year too, and
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  Speaker 2: when you're chasing two teams at the top of the division.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of games there you can end up
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  Speaker 2: losing if you don't find your footing pretty fast, and
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  Speaker 2: you could find yourself way behind the eight ball, way
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  Speaker 2: sooner than you wanted to if you don't get things
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  Speaker 2: kind of headed in the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: These stats are depressing Birdland, but they're facts, and they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be everybody's game story. Probably the Orioles since June
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  Speaker 1: twenty first, twenty twenty five or one and eleven, with
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  Speaker 1: eight straight losses to the Yankees, that is painful to say.
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  Speaker 1: It's been painful to watch. We mentioned the other day
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  Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty right heading into this series. The last
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  Speaker 1: three years they were playing them even but late last
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  Speaker 1: year Yankees blitzed the O's and it's carried into this year.
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  Speaker 1: So let's see if Monday night they can turn that around.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot to do on Birdland territory today.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get into Trey Gibson a lot as
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  Speaker 1: a real positive today watching what he did with his
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  Speaker 1: parents in the stands. The area pitching has struggled to
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  Speaker 1: get the third out of innings in this series and
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  Speaker 1: during this season, and we're going to touch on that too.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot to do today here on Birdland Territory
• 9:15
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• 9:22
  Speaker 1: Batters Man Cam Schlittler say that carefully. Four and one, one,
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  Speaker 1: five to one and seven starts and two really good
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: starts against the Oriels last year, guys, and he is
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: tough to hit homers off of. But Samuel Baseio got
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: him last year. Is the only Oriol that's homeward in
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  Speaker 1: those two games. So he might be a good choice
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  Speaker 1: to look at here. And he's really been overall. His
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  Speaker 1: offense has really picked up these last few weeks. What
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  Speaker 1: have you seen from Besio as he's starting to really
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  Speaker 1: settle in and get to major league pitching.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, he just he looks more comfortable. He
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  Speaker 2: looks like the hitter that you had heard about in
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  Speaker 2: the minor leagues and that you're expecting to see. To me,
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  Speaker 2: my biggest he was seeing him take singles the other way.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he was getting real pool happy and
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  Speaker 2: kind of pulling off balls, trying to hit everything to
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  Speaker 2: the pull side. But when you're able to hit ball
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  Speaker 2: the other way. It kind of just freeze you up.
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  Speaker 2: It allows you to let the ball travel a little
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  Speaker 2: bit further. So on fastballs you can drive the other way,
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  Speaker 2: and if it's a breaking ball, your barrel gets on front,
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  Speaker 2: and those are the ones you start pulling. And as
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  Speaker 2: you get more comfortable as a hitter, you start hitting
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  Speaker 2: with more power to the pull side, which is what.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to do.
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  Speaker 2: And when he barrows the ball up every single time,
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  Speaker 2: he's got a shot for it to go out if
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  Speaker 2: it's hit at the right angle. So that's what I saw.
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  Speaker 2: I just see him being more comfortable lend balls travel
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  Speaker 2: a little bit longer and hit the ball the other way,
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  Speaker 2: which kind of frees up the rest of the field
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  Speaker 2: for him.
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  Speaker 3: And he's definitely going to be in the starting lineup
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow night after not being in the lineup today. It
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: was one through nine righties and he ended up pinch
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  Speaker 3: hitting late in the game. He didn't start yesterday either,
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  Speaker 3: but he came through with a pinch hit there.
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  Speaker 5: I still go back to that game against the Royals.
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  Speaker 3: As the turning point, and I'm going to continue to
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  Speaker 3: go back to that date and are there going to
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  Speaker 3: be ebbs and absolutely this is his first one hundred
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  Speaker 3: and sixty two game season. But since that game on
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  Speaker 3: April twentieth, the game that the O's won seven to
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  Speaker 3: five in extras, Samuel Bassillo is hitting four to nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: He's got two homers, three doubles, six RBIs, three walks,
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  Speaker 3: and the strikeouts.
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  Speaker 5: Have been down. I know he had the one game
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  Speaker 5: against the Astros where.
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  Speaker 3: He had four k's, but besides that, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: the chase has gone down. He's not pressing nearly as
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  Speaker 3: much as he was and when he was getting really
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  Speaker 3: frustrated and snapping that back over his knee. I just
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  Speaker 3: think he's a lot more calm, cold collected, and he's
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  Speaker 3: in a role right now.
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  Speaker 1: He really is. He's fun to watch. He's got all
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  Speaker 1: fields power. He can hit it out anywhere in any
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  Speaker 1: ballpark at any time. He's learning to hit the off speed,
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  Speaker 1: and as you said, Timm, he's cut down on the chase.
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  Speaker 1: Brad mentioned earlier, the Adleee injury could have an unintended
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  Speaker 1: consequence of helping him get more regular at bats. He's
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  Speaker 1: been playing a lot, but now he was playing almost
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  Speaker 1: every day, and so I think he's gotten into a
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  Speaker 1: groove here. It's going to be fun to see what
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  Speaker 1: the final numbers look like for this kid. Man. If
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  Speaker 1: he really locks it in, could be something special. So
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  Speaker 1: So I know. The final line shows three runs for
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  Speaker 1: Trey Gibson in four and two thirds. He allowed two homers.
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  Speaker 1: One what's to be a bandbox homer just got out
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  Speaker 1: of her right field. One was a pitch he wishes
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  Speaker 1: he could have back. And Aaron Judge has done that
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  Speaker 1: to just about everybody overall, guys Yankee Stadium orioles reeling
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  Speaker 1: Major League debut in the Bronx. What do you say
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  Speaker 1: about Trey Gibson today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was a really good start for him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that no Orioles starter has ever
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  Speaker 2: made his debut in Yankee Stadium and he goes out
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  Speaker 2: and gives the team a chance to win is all
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  Speaker 2: you really could ask for. And he almost got through
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  Speaker 2: the fifth inning there, which would have been really nice.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought that exchange he had with Alberne Is
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  Speaker 2: there at pitching man was something you never see from
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  Speaker 2: somebody their first outing. But he was just saying, you
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  Speaker 2: want to judge there, and you could tell he really
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  Speaker 2: wanted that last out to try to get through the fifth.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought overall he was great. I think
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  Speaker 2: he was just two bad pitches there, the two curveballs.
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  Speaker 4: That he kind of hung in his zone.
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  Speaker 2: Besides that, I mean, his fastball was really good. He
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  Speaker 2: was getting ahead and counts, and I think I just
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  Speaker 2: think moving forward, they need to either rethink how he uses.
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  Speaker 4: The curveball or what counts he uses it.
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  Speaker 2: Because Ben was making a good point that they were
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  Speaker 2: kind of either seeing a pop out of his hand
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  Speaker 2: or there was something that the hitters were able to see,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that's what the two homers were on,
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  Speaker 2: was that curveball.
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  Speaker 4: But besides that, Sladerrook looked really good.
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  Speaker 2: Both his fastballs were working, and he's just gonna get
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  Speaker 2: more comfortable, and that's what you want to see.
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  Speaker 4: For first outing.
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  Speaker 2: There was almost get through five, get comfortable, and I
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  Speaker 2: mean that's the biggest stage he's going to pitch on
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  Speaker 2: all year. So it was great to see and I
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  Speaker 2: was happy for him. Making a debut is never easy
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  Speaker 2: and it's something to remember for the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 2: And he went out there and really represented himself and
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  Speaker 2: his family and all of his friends that are in
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  Speaker 2: the stands with great pride, and that was great to
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  Speaker 2: see today.
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  Speaker 5: I'm with everything you just said, Brad.
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  Speaker 3: I think if you would have told Orioles fans, if
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  Speaker 3: you would have told Craig alburn As that Trey Gibson
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  Speaker 3: was going to give that type of outing and keep
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  Speaker 3: the team in the game, going opposite Max Breed, you know,
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  Speaker 3: one of the better pitchers in all of baseball, and
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  Speaker 3: doing it on the road. And yes, Aaron Judge got him,
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  Speaker 3: Ben Rice got him, and those guys hit a ton
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  Speaker 3: of home runs this year. They're gonna hit a ton
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  Speaker 3: more home runs the rest of the year and do
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  Speaker 3: it to veterans much less guys making their MLB debut.
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  Speaker 5: I thought, if you're Gibson and Steve.
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  Speaker 3: I know you've covered him and his time in the
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: minors and recently put out a piece for him.
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: I thought he showed himself very well. The stage did
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: not look too big for him.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: He's an oppressive guy. I mean I talked to him
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: a ton last year, and so at my age, I
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: still get excited to see these kids walk into the
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Birdland Clubhouse and make their major league debut and have
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: major league success. It's so fun to say. I think
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: it's exciting for all fans, and not all of them
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: get to talk to these kids as I do. So.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Trey Gibson is cerebral. He wants to get better. He's
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: taken everything to heart. He's done some unique stuff. He
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: didn't throw a two seamer until last year. Now it's
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: his primary fastball, the death ball. They call it a
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: gyro slider that doesn't go across but goes down almost
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: like a split. That's a great pitch for him. He
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: added a cutter really this year, and he did something
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: that was very unique this winter, he told me in
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: a podcast we taped in March, and this was the
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Oriel suggestion he threw, as he called it, a higher volume.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: This winner not of like bullpen quality pitches, catch play,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: higher volume of throws at lower intensity, he said, had
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: never done that before, and that's it was another way
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: to kind of build up. And he gets to the
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: first spring training game he throws three innings and we're like,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: whoa three innings on the first day, But he said
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: that's because of the build up. He said his body
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: felt great. And other oil pitchers I've been told on
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: the farm have done this build up, and maybe even
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: some of the major league guys. So it sounds like
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a tweak they've made, not bullpen pitches, not high intensity.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: You're not cutting it loose, but you're just loosening your
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: arm more. Brad, have you heard it sounds like not
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: many pitchers are doing that right now, and he has.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, towards the end of my career, I started hearing guys.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I think Max Sure's there was the first one. Guys
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: kind of used as an example. He really didn't stop
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: throwing all offseason. He kind of kept his arm moving
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: in the normal path, but not of the same intensity.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: And we heard Dean Kramer a couple starts ago to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: talk about kind of doing the same thing this offseason,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: and it's just kind of a new wave thing where
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: you kind of keep your arm slot, but you're just
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: you're not going one hundred percent and not throwing off
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: the slope. It takes a little bit of pressure off
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: your arm when you're just playing catch. So it was
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: something I heard towards the end of my career. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: think I was just too nervous to try it. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: think it was you're just kind of like an old
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: dog there at the end, so it's you don't want
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: to do anything too crazy, or you know how to
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: get through the season, how you do it, and I
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: just didn't want to mess with anything. But it definitely
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: sounds interesting, and I think something guys are doing that.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: You just have to be really.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Conscious about not throwing a certain intensity, and I think
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: that's where the problems can maybe creep up with it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: But I get the idea behind it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: And Brad, that's where I was going to go with
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: it that so much has been made over the past
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: five ten years. Hits the rise in elbow injuries or
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: shoulder injuries, just pictures every sing you know, they get
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: hurt constantly. Why do you think that is? Why do
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: you think there's been such a rise.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's guys are throwing off the mountain
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: way too early, way too fast that I think they're
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: trying to throw one hundred percent in January where when
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I first got called up, I remember I used to
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: throw the minor leagues all through December. Buddy Black pulled
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: me in his office and told me, why do you
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: pick up a ball in December? And I was like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: that's just a minor league throwing program that we had.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: So I end up not starting throwing until January after
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I first got called up, and it was just kind
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: of I see these guys now, when I was working
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: out at Vanderbilt here in Nashville, they're throwing ninety five
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: to ninety seven miles an hour at eight thirty in
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the morning. I had done it, you know, at this point,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I five six years in the majors and kind of
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: knew where I needed to be. So they got me
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: on the track man, and the hardest pitch I threw
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the entire winter was like eighty six and I just
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I didn't know how these guys were able to throw
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: that hard that early, and I think that that's.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: What everybody wants to do now.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: They want to have see what the shapes of their
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: pitchers are doing, to give them more data to allow
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: them to understand where they are come April. I just
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: always felt like it was too much, too early, and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I just never really wanted to throw one hundred percent
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: of bullpens anyway, because it was just a bullpen and
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: it was more seeing form my own eyes what I
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: experienced and what I wanted to see. But now they're
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: throwing for data. So if you're not throwing ninety five
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: early in January, it's kind of a wasted bullpen. I
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: think is like kind of the idea behind it, but
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: I think that is the higher the reason elbow and
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: shoulder injuries have gone up is just because it's so
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: much so early, and guys are just trying to throw
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: so hard so often. But it's what everybody's doing now,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and it's I think if you don't go into spring
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: training ready, they're kind of like, what's going on?
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Or you hurt? What did you do this offseason?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: So I just think it's kind of maybe it's a
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: trickle down from the front off its Maybe it's a
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: guy's hearing what other guys are doing and it's like, well,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to do that too. So I
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: really don't know what's causing everybody to do it, but
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: that was what I was hearing a majority of the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: guys doing by the time I.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: Was done playing.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Gibson the twenty twenty five Oriols Minor League Pitcher of
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the Year. He won the Jim Palmer Award. It's great
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to see one of their own hold his own against
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the New York Yankees. The velocity show today is what
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I saw on the farm last year, but on the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: farm this year because we can find the data via statcast.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: He's been averaging ninety three on his fastball. Today it
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: was ninety five point five. He had a couple pitches
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: touched ninety seven, essentially just a touch below that's what
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: they saw last year. He's not a flamethrower like one
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: of these guys who's gonna live ninety eight. You're not
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: gonna see it very often. But that was good velocity.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know he's pumped up or what, but the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: villa was better. Than it was seen at Triple A
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've always heard the term there's like a
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: kind of a running joke, not really, but just a
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: term they use for the third deck. You know, when
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: you got the third deck, you find out who can
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: who can handle, and who can and it's kind of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of times it was with the outfielders. They said,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: like if they got nervous because that third deck it
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: was tougher to seaballs.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: But I always.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I I always threw harder in the major leagues than
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I did in Triple A, so I I kind of understood.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: It was just there's just more juice, there's more adrenaline,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Like it's Norfolk's a great place to play, but Candy
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Yards is way better. Yankee Stadium is way better. So
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: it's there's just a lot more excitement and it's easier
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: to get up for those games than I always felt
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: like it was in the minor league.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: So I hope it's a good thing.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it's from it's here to stay, and this is
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the velocity see from him, because I mean, like you said,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: he's not a flame thrower, but I mean, ninety seven
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: is gonna play and anything anytime you can get an
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: extra mile or power here there, it makes a it
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: makes for a worse swing.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Insteed, I'm kind of curious, is this the one and done?
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Does he stay in the starting rotation.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: There's just so many injuries going on right now, and
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: the news broke Friday Ryan Helsley on on the il
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: due to elbow soreness. But Craig Albert has said that
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: the MRI looks fine. But we know that Rogers is
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: still going to be out a little bit more with
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the flu, and Flin and Kramer they're out. Maybe the
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: door's open for more than just a spot start for
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Trey Gibson.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I say it is, and I think Albert has pretty
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: much said that without one hundred percent committing to another
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: start right now. I think the Oriols, when they reconvene,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: are going to say, let's give this kid a couple
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: more until we get Rogers back, and then let's see
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: where we are then. And maybe he pitched it. He
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: does ever go back, who knows it. But he's shown
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the poise, the composure and the stuff to succeed in
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the major league. So I want to see more of
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Trey Gibson. I'm really excited for him and was so
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: cool to see his parents today. What a weird spot
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: end of the game. They're smiling taking pictures. But come on,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you have one debut, the team loss, there's another day tomorrow.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: You can't all mope every day. You gotta let this
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: kid have his moment, right. No.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: And I was talking to Brad prior to you getting
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: on Steve, Just Brad quick, what went through your debut
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: and just were you able to have friends and family there, like.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: It was a really cool story.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I was.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Actually I was into COMBA Washington and they called down
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: like the fifth inning of a game. I was closing
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: in triple A and the manager was just like, hey,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: if your spot comes up, we're not going to use
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you tonight. They might need you in LA tomorrow. So
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going through the whole game. My spot comes up,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I don't pitch, and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: get to where we're I get in the clubhouse and
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the manager just goes, we don't know yet. I'll let
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you know as soon as possible. But I didn't find
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: out till midnight. We had a twelve o'clock start in
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: La the next day, so I'm on the first light
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: out of Seattle, and I was telling Tim before the game,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I think it was actually better. I was sleep deprived
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: because you just don't have time to think. It was
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: just kind of I was tired. I was you're excited,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: so the adrenaline gets you through it. But made my
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: debut in LA and I come to the mound and
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Orlando Hudson's playing second base. He grabs my heart and
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: he's just like, young book, your heart beats like coming
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: through your chest.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: How you can real pitch? And I'm like, who am
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I looking at?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Am?
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: I looking at the manager room, I looking at like
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: what's going on here? I'm like, That's not what I
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: expected when I got to the mound.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But it was a cool memory to have and went
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: out and had a good outing, first strike out Matt
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Camp and ended up having three strikeouts and my second
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: inning of work and just it was a memorable. And
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: like you said, we had a long drive back from
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: LA to Sant Diego. My phone was dead at that
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: point because everybody had been blowing me up all day.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So it's just a nice time to kind of just
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: relax and really think about it. And it's really about
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the journey that gets you to that point that makes
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: it so exciting. So, like you're saying, Steve, but it
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: might not be. Everyone might not be happy to seeing
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: him smiling and with his family on the field, but
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it's you get one debut and this kid made it
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: at Yankee Stadium with his parents in the stands. You're
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: never going to get a moment like that again, and
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the rest of your life, even if you pitch for
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: twenty five years, you will still have that first game
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you had. So I was really happy to see him
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: get to enjoy it and take the pictures and have fun.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: And the attitudes have kind of changed with the older guys.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I think they kind of let you enjoy it. When
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I was first there, it was kind of like, keep
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: your head down, don't show a smile, just go about
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: your business. But I think it's really cool they let
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: these kids go out there and enjoy it. They put
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: the MLB debut patch on their jerseys so that they
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: had this commemorative jersey for the rest of their career
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: in life, and it's just really cool to see and
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: it really brings.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Me back the thing about my first outing.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be talking more about this kid. I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: got a feeling not drafted in twenty twenty three, signed
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: after the draft. Look at his Cape Cod League stats.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: They were terrible. Some oriol scouts saw something to like
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and they signed him. His Cape Cod League stats that
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: summer terrible. Orioles signed him undrafted. He told me he
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: didn't have many offers. There were not teams pursuing him.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: The Orioles did and he pitched the big today. We
• 26:00
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• 26:02
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• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Tough weekend in the Bronx and Tim one thing. It
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: hurt the Ools this weekend. It's been a theme this
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: year at times. Two out offense for the opponents.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and in particular against the starting pitching.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: And you saw it with Kate Povid, you saw it
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: with Kyle Bradish. They both gave up five earned runs
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: and in both of their starts, four of those five
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: earned runs occurred with two outs, So I just kept
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: thinking this morning, like, hey, I wonder what their numbers
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: are as a whole when they're at two outs. And
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: this was heading into the game. The Orioles starting pitch.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: They've given up the most runs with two outs this
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: season forty eight runs, most hits with seventy, most doubles
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: with twenty one, tied for the second most homers with nine.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Batters are hitting.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Three twenty one with two outs against Orioles starting pitchers.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: That's hard to comprehend five forty one slug. The next
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: closest team is the Rangers with a four to eighty
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: seven slug And just for numbers for the bullpen, they've
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: given up the ninth most runs with two outs, with
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: twenty seven. So this is definitely an issue for this
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: ball club. And it's very deflating because I'd love to
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: have the numbers in front of me in terms of
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: the true shutdown innings, in terms of scoring a run
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: prior and then that shutdown what follows. It feels like
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: there hasn't been enough of those instances, Brad. And that's
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: just it's such a momentum killer, and it's such a
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: punch to the gut. I mean, I'm just thinking thinking
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: of it from the pitchers perspective, Where do this close
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: to getting out of the inning unscathed and then you
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: give up a couple earned runs and it really messes
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: up your start.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it was like watching these games.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I actually was thinking about this before we brought up
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the stats, and then when you said the stats, I
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: was kind of like, man, I thought it was not great.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: But the stats are staggeringly not great at this point.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And it's it's it's the difference between wins and losses,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: and I think it's why they are where they're at
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: right now with it's always about getting that last strike
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: and that last out, and that's what makes baseball such
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: a great game because you have to get twenty seven out,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: so there's no kneeling it, there's no running out the clock.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: You got to get that final strike or that final out,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: and even in innings, you've got to get that final
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: strike and final out to kind of get you back
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: in the dugout to give your offense a chance. And
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: it's I think it really might be what has been
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the missing piece for this season to this point.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: It's we've we've been on the show talking.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: About that, it's like they're so close to so close,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: and we're right, they are so close, but it's that
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: last out of these innings that really have just been
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: killing them on the defensive side of things and just
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: kind of getting them behind the eight ball, and then
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: you've really got to get the offense. And I think
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: it's just kind of leading to the struggles and all
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: the other places of the that they've had so far
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: this season. So yeah, seeing those stats was kind of
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: disheartening at this point of the season because you just
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: don't think they're that bad, but you got to get
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: that final striking, that final out, and they always say
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: it's the toughest one to get, but I just didn't
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: think it was where it is at this point.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: And you got to think the team is obviously got
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the stats we have, and so their meeting of the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: minds is probably saying, what is it scouting? Is it
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: some of our sequencing? What what are we can we pinpoint?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: It's hard to think what you could pinpoint that would
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: be that issue.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like go ahead, tam go ahead.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna say the other thing real quick, Brad.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I looked up and this isn't a huge surprise either,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: because it feels like we've had multiple of these episodes
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: talking about not just with two outs, but with two strikes.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: They have batters down and the Orioles have given up
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: as a team, the second highest batting average against them
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: when the batter has two strikes, So it's it's doubling
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: down on that, like you're so close to getting that out,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: you're so close to getting out of the inning, and
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: it just bites you in the butt.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's one of those things where,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: like you said, Steve, it's not really I think they
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: know at this point that they're kind of struggling with
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: two strikes and two outs, but it's what do you do?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: And it's I think pressing too much, trying to make
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the perfect pitch, and they leave tony pitches over the
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: fat part of the play. And I think that's been
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: it this series. I mean, outside of the home run balls,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like they've done a pretty good job pitch
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: and they're just leaving too many pitches and the heart
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: of the plate. And the Yankees have not missed I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: don't think they've missed a single one. That's been a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: you know, a I would call a bad pitch and
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: they've they've done damage on It. Hasn't just been singles,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: it's been doubles, it's been Homer. That's what's really been
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the separator of this series was just not missing the
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: bad pitches when they get a chance to hit it.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Well, we covered a lot of ground today. It wasn't
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: always great stuff to talk about, but the job is
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to talk about the ball club, right, And we've been
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: here a lot. We're cranking out these shows, so guys,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: thanks for this one. We'll reconvene here shortly and have
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: another edition of Birdland Territory and hope the OS fans
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the series and the team gives
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: them something to enjoy Monday night in New York and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: then on to Miami. So for Brad and Tim Steve Mleski,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us today on Birdland Territory.