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Why Healthcare Keeps Failing You - Dr. Elaina George #6235 · Financial Survival Network

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  Speaker 1: This system is no longer controlled by the doctor and
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  Speaker 1: the patient and what the doctor says and with consultation
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  Speaker 1: with the patient, what the standard of care should be.
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  Speaker 1: From there, there medical groups, whether it's for US E
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  Speaker 1: and T or internal medicine, that doesn't have any power anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It's the insurance companies driving the delivery of healthcare and
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  Speaker 1: the choices, unfortunately, that the doctors can make. It's not right.
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  Speaker 3: And welcome you are listening to the Financial Survival Network.
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  Speaker 3: I'm your Carrie Lutz. Well make America healthy again? Will
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  Speaker 3: RFK Junior get the confirmation to a Secretary of HHS
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  Speaker 3: and will he be able to make a difference? Why
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  Speaker 3: does medicine cost so much? Why is everything so corrupt?
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  Speaker 3: If you've been watching Elon Musk rip the federal budget
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  Speaker 3: to shreds and perhaps rejoicing at the prospect of the
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  Speaker 3: tyranny of the purse actually being exposed, then you're going
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  Speaker 3: to want to hear this show with us. Is it esteemed?
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  Speaker 3: Doctor Elena George. We've been talking for years, doctor George,
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  Speaker 3: you and I, and well, what do you think of RFK?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think he can bring some sanity to this
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  Speaker 3: insane system.
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  Speaker 1: I think that anything that exposes the underbelly and how
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  Speaker 1: the machine works is a positive. I think it's one
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  Speaker 1: of the most open take parts of our economy, and
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  Speaker 1: it's huge, and at this point it's just gotten more bloated,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't serve the interests of the doctor or
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  Speaker 1: the patient at this point.
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  Speaker 3: So just for big Pharma, we got this thing called
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  Speaker 3: prescription benefit managers and they set the price for everything
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  Speaker 3: and everywhere, and one of them is owned by CBS,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, care Mark, and I don't remember.
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  Speaker 3: There's two or three of them, and they get a
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  Speaker 3: piece of every transaction that takes place. And who died
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  Speaker 3: and made them king? Is what I'd like to know,
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  Speaker 3: doctor George.
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  Speaker 1: I think even said the axiom fall of the money
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  Speaker 1: is what you really have to keep your mind on.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much conflict of interest written into the system.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing. So if the insurance companies are able to
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  Speaker 1: work with the pharmacy benefit management companies and they have
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  Speaker 1: a preferred pharmacy to go to, that actually limits the
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  Speaker 1: way for the patient to shop and save money because
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  Speaker 1: they are actually setting the price. But not only do
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  Speaker 1: they set the price, they change the formulary. So as
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  Speaker 1: a doctor, if I want to write a prescription that
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  Speaker 1: I know works and the patient has this insurance plan,
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  Speaker 1: they will not pay for that medication. The patient is
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  Speaker 1: out of luck, or I have to change what I
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  Speaker 1: know to be from what I know to be the
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  Speaker 1: best treatment to something that I'm not happy with. This
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  Speaker 1: system is no longer controlled by the doctor and the
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  Speaker 1: patient and what the doctor says and with consultation with
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  Speaker 1: the patient, what the standard of care should be from
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  Speaker 1: their medical groups, whether it's for US E and T
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  Speaker 1: or internal medicine. That doesn't have any power anymore. It's
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  Speaker 1: the insurance companies driving the delivery of healthcare and the
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  Speaker 1: choices unfortunately that the doctors can make. It's not right.
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  Speaker 3: And so what about hospitals. They're like taking over the practice.
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  Speaker 3: You know, all the doctors are working for them now.
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  Speaker 3: Very few doctors, it seems, are left to be able
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  Speaker 3: to work for themselves. How did that happen?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it was a slow and steady slide. I
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  Speaker 1: had the benefit of being in this, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: medical school and in residency during all these changes, so
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  Speaker 1: I saw it coming at the beginning of my training.
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  Speaker 1: When people had insurance plans, they didn't cover the first
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  Speaker 1: dollar of healthcare. They only covered big ticket items like
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  Speaker 1: if you had to have an expensive lab or if
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  Speaker 1: you had to have surgery. Otherwise, the patient was paying
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  Speaker 1: out of pocket directly to the doctor. And when the
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  Speaker 1: insurance companies took over the pocketbook or the purse, then
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  Speaker 1: they got to control everything. And people don't think about
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  Speaker 1: but they have a conflict of interest. By definition, as
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  Speaker 1: a you know, an entity that's about making money, their
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  Speaker 1: job is to give value to their you know, their stockholders, right,
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  Speaker 1: So they want you to pay a premium, but they
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  Speaker 1: don't really want to pay out the cost of what
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  Speaker 1: your doctor wants or what you need. And it's become
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  Speaker 1: completely mercenary. So you have horrible stories that people have
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  Speaker 1: heard about where cancer treatment is denied because it's quote experimental.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you from day to day, because I
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  Speaker 1: see patients every day that were always caught out. Even
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  Speaker 1: if we get a pre authorization, it doesn't mean they're
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  Speaker 1: going to pay for the procedure or the office visit,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's a it's a very one sided system.
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  Speaker 1: It's a h win, I win, you lose, I win
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  Speaker 1: kind of system. Does it make sense to you as
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  Speaker 1: a lay person? If you come to my office, I
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  Speaker 1: need to do a procedure around you. I ask your
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  Speaker 1: insurance if it's okay called a pre authorization because I
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  Speaker 1: have all the medical reasoning behind it. They say yes,
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  Speaker 1: I do the procedure, and then they deny it after
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  Speaker 1: the fact, after they approved it, and I don't have
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  Speaker 1: any grounds to fight for it because I'm contracted to
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  Speaker 1: follow whatever they say. You know, that goes on every
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  Speaker 1: day throughout the country. And at this point, that's one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons that doctors have left private practice. It's
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons don't they'll leve practice altogether. And
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  Speaker 1: now we have a situation where we don't have enough
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  Speaker 1: doctors to take care of patients, and now we have
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  Speaker 1: a whole influx of other healthcare providers, whether they be
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  Speaker 1: nurse practitioners, physician, assistants, aids, all of these things, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean just medicine. It's gone through pharmacy, every
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  Speaker 1: single aspect of our healthcare system. Because its system is
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  Speaker 1: not designed to actually do what it's supposed to do,
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  Speaker 1: which is to help people. It's about making money and
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  Speaker 1: there's no recourse. It's just really sad that the doctors
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  Speaker 1: and patients are the victims in this. And of course
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  Speaker 1: it's so opaque. You can't say this is a doctor
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  Speaker 1: because the patient can't necessarily see it. But they're thinking
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  Speaker 1: that you're the problem, when in actuality it's these big
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  Speaker 1: entities and this infrastructure that's enormous.
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  Speaker 3: It seems like they don't really want to cure diseases anymore.
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  Speaker 3: They just want to treat them, and then you become
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  Speaker 3: a lifelong customer of the drug company.
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  Speaker 1: It's a business model, isn't it. It makes perfect sense
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  Speaker 1: if you have a customer for life on more than
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  Speaker 1: one medication daily and you're managing the disease and you're
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  Speaker 1: never really curing it. So you know, I would love
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  Speaker 1: to see if we do get a change over at HHS,
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  Speaker 1: a change from treating a disease to preventing the disease.
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  Speaker 1: It seems that we have all these treatments for after
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  Speaker 1: the fact. But if we can change things that make
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  Speaker 1: people sick, whether that be what's in the water, what
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  Speaker 1: chemicals are in various things that we're exposed to, would
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  Speaker 1: that cut down on the reason you know, or the
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  Speaker 1: disease itself, the amount of people who get it. That
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  Speaker 1: would say the ultimate amount of money as opposed to
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  Speaker 1: trying to find the disease and then have some algorithm
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  Speaker 1: to treat it forever. It doesn't seem like it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really make a lot of sense. If you think about
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  Speaker 1: cost and human cost and quality of life cost, this
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  Speaker 1: is a no brainer.
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  Speaker 3: And let's not forget that we didn't have this epidemic
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  Speaker 3: of chronic diseases.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: Forty fifty sixty years ago, we didn't have obesity to
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  Speaker 3: the level we have it now. It was relatively unusual
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  Speaker 3: to see an obese person and now it's really gone rampant.
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  Speaker 1: Well mean, think about the food industry, and we didn't
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  Speaker 1: have we had cane sugar back in the day. Now
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  Speaker 1: we have high fructose corn syrup. We have other chemicals
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  Speaker 1: that make our estrogen levels go up or affect our
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  Speaker 1: blood pressure. You know, all these things the children were
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  Speaker 1: I think the number one disease may be now obesity
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  Speaker 1: or diabetes. It's going through the roof in younger and
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  Speaker 1: younger kids. But no one seems to be looking at
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  Speaker 1: what's the common denominator, what's in the food where they're
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  Speaker 1: all eating, what's in the what additives or put in
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  Speaker 1: that weren't there fifty years ago, and get rid of
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is not really hard if we just
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  Speaker 1: take a look at it and be try to be
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  Speaker 1: on the side of the patient instead of getting back
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  Speaker 1: in you know, whatever position you're in, getting it re elected.
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  Speaker 1: It's all what people care about is the money coming
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  Speaker 1: in to get them back in. Come hell or high water.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So RFKA Junior is talking about seed oils, which
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  Speaker 3: we know are inflammatory agents, fati omega sixes that cause
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  Speaker 3: inflammation in the body, healthy eating, whole food, odds, all
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  Speaker 3: these things. You know, so many of the so called
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  Speaker 3: food products that are sold in the United States aren't
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  Speaker 3: sold in aren't allowed in Europe, not even in Canada,
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  Speaker 3: our next door neighbor. They gave the example of fruit
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  Speaker 3: loops had eighteen ingredients and the ones in Canada did
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  Speaker 3: as well, but the difference was that none of the
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  Speaker 3: ingredients in the Canadian fruit loops were artificial. They were
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  Speaker 3: all natural and breakfast cereals like the worst thing in
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  Speaker 3: the world. It's pure, pure sugar, pure poison and chemicals.
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  Speaker 1: And it's expensive too. So for those who keep saying that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if we make these changes, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be cost prohibitive, you know, five or six dollars for
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  Speaker 1: you know, a box of cereal is cost prohibited and
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  Speaker 1: it's full of toxins. I'm sure people, but then we
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  Speaker 1: people do. I think there's a growing number of people
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  Speaker 1: who are making healthy choices. I love to see that
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  Speaker 1: side of our food industry and our healthcare system work
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  Speaker 1: in tandem. Doctors have a lot of power. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we spend enough time as a group talking about
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  Speaker 1: health to our patients. It's about what drug can we
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  Speaker 1: give them, as opposed to how do we get you
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  Speaker 1: off of the medication? Right, And that's a different mindset.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And you know, the whole chronic illnesses, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they just didn't exist. And then when we studied primitive
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  Speaker 3: cultures out there, right, and they don't have any of
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  Speaker 3: these diseases, until until, you know, until they get modernized, right,
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  Speaker 3: and the tempt to adopt the Western or American diet.
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  Speaker 4: That's true, I mean it's our diet has got a
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  Speaker 4: lot to be a lot to be desired, frankly, And
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  Speaker 4: if we can have an honest conversation and everybody's voice
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  Speaker 4: should be heard, I don't think it should be one way.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't subscribe to censorship. You know, if you
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  Speaker 1: don't like something doesn't mean you just shut it down.
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  Speaker 1: You have to how about cite your source. How about
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  Speaker 1: have a discussion and come to a conclusion that everybody
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  Speaker 1: can live with as opposed to my way or no way.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe this is a good atmosphere now to open
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  Speaker 1: up the conversation to thinking a different way. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think doing the same thing and expecting a different
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  Speaker 1: result is working. Because the cost of the healthcare system
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  Speaker 1: for an individual they get into it is prohibitive. Nobody's
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  Speaker 1: looking at that. But the best thing is not I
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  Speaker 1: tell my patients don't get sick, right, This is how
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  Speaker 1: you work the system. Don't enter it because you're not
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  Speaker 1: sure what's going to happen when you're in it. And
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  Speaker 1: I practice what I preach on this one. And you know, ultimately, Carrie,
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  Speaker 1: it's about choice, individual choices. I think we need to
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  Speaker 1: work want better for ourselves as individuals. So if people
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  Speaker 1: want to take a pill because it's a fast track
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  Speaker 1: to lose in weight or to growing hair or whatever
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  Speaker 1: they're doing, but not think about any of the adverse effects,
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  Speaker 1: and you hear them on TV, I swear the list
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  Speaker 1: is getting longer and longer the Cutees commercial. If you
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  Speaker 1: just you know, slow down and not listen to the music,
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  Speaker 1: but listen to the words it's amazing and anything that
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  Speaker 1: causes death as one of its side effects, I personally
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  Speaker 1: would be having really second, third, and four thoughts about
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  Speaker 1: taking that.
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  Speaker 3: Seriously, Yeah, well yeah. But on the other hand, the
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  Speaker 3: weight loss pills, the glip ones, clip twos, you know,
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  Speaker 3: ozempic and Manjaro, you know, they enable people to take
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  Speaker 3: off these pounds and it's easier to lose the weight.
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  Speaker 3: It's easier to keep the weight off than it is
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  Speaker 3: to lose it. So they're you know, just that obesity
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  Speaker 3: itself is so unhealthy that maybe it's worth taking some
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  Speaker 3: of these weight loss drugs.
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  Speaker 1: But they all have side effects to them, and potentially
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  Speaker 1: you'd have to be on them for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: your life. I don't have a problem. It's something if
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  Speaker 1: it's short term as a bridge to give you means
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  Speaker 1: to but that's not really what's going on. It's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the for the rest of your life kind
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  Speaker 1: of thing. And well, you know you're losing muscle, not
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  Speaker 1: just that when you're losing weight and you're not eating,
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  Speaker 1: so your vitamin status and your nutrition goes down. So
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things we need to
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  Speaker 1: have a sense of balance. Throwing everybody on it and
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  Speaker 1: having kids go on it without changing the reason that
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  Speaker 1: they're faked exactly. So you know, it's just going to
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  Speaker 1: go down to infants needing it at some point. They
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  Speaker 1: don't have an off switch with this. As soon as
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  Speaker 1: that door is open, they find someone who's going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to use it.
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  Speaker 3: So doctor George just switching up a little bit here,
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  Speaker 3: Elon Musk breaks into the HHS computers, the Medicaid, the
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  Speaker 3: Medicare computers. What shocks are instead in store for us there?
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  Speaker 1: Gee, that's a great question, you know, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: can only speak about it from the doctor's side of it,
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  Speaker 1: and those are two of our healthcare delivery systems that
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  Speaker 1: I don't partake in because they don't serve the patient.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, but I know that I would
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  Speaker 1: think that from the pharmacy side, they definitely have a
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  Speaker 1: protocol of what medicines that they allow. And the reason
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  Speaker 1: I love Medicare Medicaid was I couldn't prescribe medicines that
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  Speaker 1: worked for my patient because they were never on formulary.
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  Speaker 1: So I wonder how much the pharmacy benefit management company
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  Speaker 1: is involved with that side of the healthcare system because
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  Speaker 1: the government's involved, so they're going to want to get
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  Speaker 1: the lowest denominator in terms of cost savings as they
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  Speaker 1: can get. But I wonder where that money's going to.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. I can't answer that, but I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if we find some real whoppers in there.
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  Speaker 3: Will. You got to realize that from that system there's
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  Speaker 3: way more money coming out than from USAID or even
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  Speaker 3: the Department. I think Health and Human Services is putting
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  Speaker 3: out more than Defense, like one point seven billion, So
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  Speaker 3: it's got to be it's going to be shocking. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just telling you it's going to be prepared to be shocked.
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  Speaker 1: I would bet that most of the money is going
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  Speaker 1: to medication and not to services like doctors and physical
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  Speaker 1: therapists and PT and you know that sort of thing,
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  Speaker 1: chronic care. I bet you most is going to medicine.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Well, if there's only half the upheaval like
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  Speaker 3: there is in the foreign aid sector, we're in for
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  Speaker 3: quite a show, aren't we.
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  Speaker 1: I think we are. And hopefully it'll clean out the
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  Speaker 1: whatever disease is in there so we can start.
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  Speaker 3: Over all right, So brief things you can do to
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  Speaker 3: improve your health right now.
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  Speaker 1: Number one is clean up your water intake. Right So,
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  Speaker 1: there was a lot of things about filtering your water
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  Speaker 1: and about bottled water versus tap water. Water is we're
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  Speaker 1: seventy percent water. What we drink does matter. So I
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  Speaker 1: would recommend people, if they can afford it, to invest
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  Speaker 1: in a home system reverse cosmosis that takes some purities out.
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  Speaker 1: I would stay away from plastics because microplastics are one
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  Speaker 1: of the main problems. Is one of those forever type
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  Speaker 1: of things that want and ends up in your system.
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  Speaker 1: We can't get it out, and we don't know what
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  Speaker 1: that's going to cause down the road, so investing in
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  Speaker 1: the systems using glass bottles, I personally think things like
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  Speaker 1: hydrogen putting hydrogen, getting a hydrogen system for your water,
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  Speaker 1: or definitely not drinking tap would be number one. The
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  Speaker 1: second thing is to try to eat as organic as
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  Speaker 1: you possibly can. As we already know that there's so
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  Speaker 1: many chemicals in the system itself, in the food distribution system,
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  Speaker 1: in the supply that if you can clean it out
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  Speaker 1: what you're putting in with organic where they're not getting
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  Speaker 1: eating food that's generically modified or anything that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: all these vaccines are being put into the food industry
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  Speaker 1: on the cattle, et cetera. I try to clean that
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  Speaker 1: out as well and shop local. So there are plenty
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  Speaker 1: of co ops in every kind I'm sorry, every city,
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  Speaker 1: every state that you can actually join and you can
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  Speaker 1: work with farmers locally and get food that's much cheaper,
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  Speaker 1: better quality, and consistent, so you're not going to have
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  Speaker 1: to be at the mercy of something going down in
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  Speaker 1: the commercial shopping sector. You know what happened with the
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  Speaker 1: different Krogers and publics, et cetera. When you have when
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  Speaker 1: they go down for whatever reason, the supply chains effect.
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  Speaker 1: So that would be number two and three. It sounds
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  Speaker 1: kind of out there, but I would have a relationship
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  Speaker 1: with God, to be honest, because there's so much I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. You can't trust anything that people say right where.
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  Speaker 1: Human beings are notoriously everywhere. But if you have a
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  Speaker 1: relationship with a higher power, someone bigger than yourself, I
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  Speaker 1: think that gives you stability. I think that makes you
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  Speaker 1: less likely to be at the whim and emotionally, you
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  Speaker 1: know the ebb and flow of what goes on emotionally,
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  Speaker 1: because fear is what gets people into trouble, and when
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  Speaker 1: you're fearful, you fall for anything. And I think we
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  Speaker 1: as human beings need to be much more mindful of that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more. And so it
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  Speaker 3: starts with attitude, and your attitude affect your behavior and
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  Speaker 3: from there, once your behavior changes, everything else changes too. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you're you're you're in a position of power, right,
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  Speaker 1: so you're not waiting for something to come down the
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  Speaker 1: pipe that you have to react to. You're prepared, you
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  Speaker 1: have a plan. Whatever goes down, you can you can
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  Speaker 1: fall back on that knowing that I've prepared, I've got
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  Speaker 1: what I need. I know the direction that I want
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  Speaker 1: to go to and more importantly, the direction that I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to go to, because that's why I think
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: people get into trouble. It's I want to follow the group.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know someone's there to help me and
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: they care about me. That is the worst position to
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: be and you will be, you know, net up for
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: God knows what.
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  Speaker 3: So dirt, Yes, yes, I couldn't agree with you. More
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: on that, doctor George, And yeah, so water attitude, relationship
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  Speaker 3: with God. And then find the healthy food. It's out there.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: It's not just that Whole Foods. It's in a lot
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: of other places. A lot of the foods at Whole
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Foods are what I call fake health foods. Right, They're
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: not real, They're not really healthy. If something's swimming in
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  Speaker 3: sugar and seed oil, I don't care. If it's on
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  Speaker 3: the first aisle at the Whole Foods, I don't want it.
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  Speaker 1: So I think you're absolutely right. I mean, the thing
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: that people don't realize is that if you go local,
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  Speaker 1: if you have a relationship with people who are farmers,
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  Speaker 1: people who produce, then you have a pathway around every
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: single thing that can happen in the bigger picture the
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: bigger system. It doesn't affect you the same way at all, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Hey, we appreciate as always you're coming on
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  Speaker 3: sharing your knowledge and wisdom with us, doctor George. How
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: do we find you? How do we find your podcast
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: and how do we connect with you on the web.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you can go to Libertytalk dot fm, and that's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: where I have a Living in the Solution. It's a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: podcast that runs live on Saturdays and Sundays at noon
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Eastern time. You can also go to my website, doctor
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Lane a joy dot com, and I have podcasts that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: have been going on for many, many years and links
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that help people do what I recommend. You know, everybody
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: has to be has to have a skin in this game,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and the more knowledge you have, the more power you have.
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  Speaker 1: I'm all about that, and I think everything has a solution,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and we are our own solution, not looking for somebody
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: else to do it for us.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: All right, doctor George, appreciate that, And the links are
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• 22:53
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• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Kerrie, God bless thanks for.
• 22:57
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