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FULL SHOW: Big day for Luigi Mangione's case; Trump will be in New York today. · The Mark Simone Show

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Speaker 1: Now the Mark Simone Show on seven to ten woon
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Speaker 1: filling in for Mark.
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Speaker 2: Here's Ken Rosotto.
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Speaker 3: It is so good to be with you on a Friday,
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Speaker 3: There is so much news happening today that I have
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Speaker 3: Eight hundred three to two to one zero seven ten.
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Speaker 3: Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. So there
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Speaker 3: is a lot happening. Is there a deal in place
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Speaker 3: for United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson's alleged murderer, Luigi Magjoni.
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Speaker 3: Now we may find something out about that in the
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Speaker 3: next couple of hours, and how the state in federal
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Speaker 3: cases would affect one another. Thompson was shot in the
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Speaker 3: in the back at point blank range, you recall, on
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Speaker 3: the morning of December fourth, twenty twenty four, is literally
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Speaker 3: from the windows where I'm sitting right now in the
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Speaker 3: Mark Simone studio, which by the way, is gilded. You
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Speaker 3: think that you think that President Trump painted the Oval
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Speaker 3: Office in gold. You have to see the way Simone
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Speaker 3: did up the studio. Now that he has the nine
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Speaker 3: am hour, he has gold, he has diamond chandeliers in here.
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Speaker 3: It's it's unbelievable. It's like I feel like I should
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Speaker 3: have won a tuxedo coming in. But the windows about
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Speaker 3: twenty feet behind where this studio is point out at
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Speaker 3: the very spot where the shooting occurred back in December
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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four. So that's how close we are
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Speaker 3: to where this happened. The New York Hilton is right there,
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Speaker 3: and ABC News legal contributor Brian Buckmeyer has some details
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Speaker 3: about what's happening.
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Speaker 4: I think the plan is to try to get a
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Speaker 4: good deal from the judge, sidestep the prosecution, take it
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Speaker 4: from there, and then hope double jeopardy argument wins in
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Speaker 4: the state court. And that's how you get Luigi Manngioni
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Speaker 4: serving twelve years in prison, because they probably believe this
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Speaker 4: is a mitigation.
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Speaker 2: Case rather than a trial case.
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Speaker 3: So that's something that makes sense to me. We have
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Speaker 3: a lot going on, So there are two cases. Remember
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Speaker 3: there's the State of New York case, which is going
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Speaker 3: on right now. But what is supposed to happen today
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Speaker 3: at eleven am is that his attorney, his federal attorney,
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Speaker 3: will go to the federal judge and try to cut
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Speaker 3: a plea deal with the federal judge, and then they're
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Speaker 3: hoping retroactively that will then short circuit the state case
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Speaker 3: and they'll just have a plea deal with the Feds
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Speaker 3: and call it a That's my basic understanding of it.
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Speaker 3: I am not a lawyer, a friend of mine. In fact,
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Speaker 3: my personal attorney is criminal defense attorney, not because I've
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Speaker 3: committed crimes. He's just a personal attorney, criminal defense attorney. Imron,
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Speaker 3: A'm sorry. He's going to be here a little later
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Speaker 3: to talk about what is happening this morning. In fact,
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Speaker 3: he's going to be reporting for Fox when it happens.
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Speaker 3: So he was good enough to give us some of
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Speaker 3: his time today, so we'll talk to him about that
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Speaker 3: in detail. That's kind of big. I'm sure there are
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Speaker 3: still a lot of you who are probably rolling your eyes, saying,
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Speaker 3: enough of this kid, throw him in jail or whatever.
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Speaker 3: But everybody deserves time at a court. We'll find out.
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Speaker 3: I just wonder if he will have federally mandated eyebrow
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Speaker 3: trimming when he gets I have heard from certain people
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Speaker 3: who have said, oh I think they look good. You think,
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Speaker 3: oh my god, my gosh. I look at those eyebrows,
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Speaker 3: and I get a little nauseous. I can't have lunch
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Speaker 3: when I look at those things. Just get some hedge
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Speaker 3: clippers on those, for God's sake. I just don't understand.
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Speaker 3: I digress again. That will be something we will cover
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Speaker 3: apparently at eleven a m. His attorney, Remember he has
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Speaker 3: different attorneys for New York State and for the federal case.
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Speaker 3: I believe the federal attorney is a guy named Avi.
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Speaker 3: First name is Avi. I forget the last time I
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Speaker 3: thing is it moscowitz? I believe so so Avi will
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Speaker 3: be before the federal judge, apparently this morning. That'll be
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Speaker 3: happening at eleven. That doesn't mean that the judge will
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Speaker 3: make a decision at eleven. It's just that the case
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Speaker 3: will be discussed allegedly, apparently reportedly between the attorney and
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Speaker 3: the judge, and who knows. The judge could say, all right,
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Speaker 3: this is what you'd like. I think that's acceptable, go
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Speaker 3: ahead and do it and put it all in motion.
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Speaker 3: And if that is the case and it gets accepted,
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Speaker 3: then it becomes a question of how does that impact
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Speaker 3: the state case. Will the state still move forward or
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Speaker 3: will that short circuit a case under the rules of
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Speaker 3: double jeopardy. So we'll talk about that with Imron. I'm sorry,
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Speaker 3: he is. He is the man who knows these cases.
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Speaker 3: He's done a lot of criminal cases with my dear
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Speaker 3: friend Arthur Idalla to phenomenal, probably two of the best
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Speaker 3: attorneys in the business right here in New York City.
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Speaker 3: But Imron will be the one the partner who is
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Speaker 3: on this morning eight hundred three two one zero seven
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Speaker 3: ten eight hundred three to two one zero seven ten
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Speaker 3: for seven to ten wo r Ken Rizatto Win from Mark,
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Speaker 3: Happy Friday, Happy weekend to you. Did you hear about
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Speaker 3: the story that they were talking about this morning? On
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Speaker 3: the Morning Show? Curtis and Larry talked about this the
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Speaker 3: aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln. Now, if you're like me,
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Speaker 3: a lot of folks in the Mark Simon audience, we
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Speaker 3: love our members of the military who risk their lives
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Speaker 3: to defend us, keep us free, keep us a great nation.
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Speaker 3: And because so many of these members have been deployed
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Speaker 3: on the USS Abraham Lincoln for so long. I remember,
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Speaker 3: these had kids, many of them, the majority of them
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Speaker 3: are only in there, you know, late teens or early twenties,
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Speaker 3: their kids. It's one thing to be deployed for three
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Speaker 3: months and then you hit a port and you get
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Speaker 3: you know, you blow off some steam for a few
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Speaker 3: a few weeks, and then you go back on the
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Speaker 3: ship and then you work for three months. I mean,
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Speaker 3: that's what you signed up for. But these people, men
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Speaker 3: and women, have been on the ship between two hundred
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Speaker 3: and fifty and two hundred and seventy days and they
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Speaker 3: haven't even seen a port. They haven't even stopped by
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Speaker 3: a port in months. So they have been literally out
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Speaker 3: to sea with whatever supplies get flown in on helicopters
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Speaker 3: for two hundred and fifty to two hundred and seventy days.
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Speaker 3: Haven't been able to see their families, their loved ones.
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Speaker 3: You know, you get limited time that you could talk
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Speaker 3: on your phones and whatever. At least they have that,
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Speaker 3: but they get very limited time a lot of times. There's,
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Speaker 3: of course certain things you can't discuss because it's classified,
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Speaker 3: but these people are you know, they signed up for
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Speaker 3: a lot. I get it, but I think they have
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Speaker 3: even more that's been presented to them than they signed
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Speaker 3: up for. So they've been on extended deployment. There are
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Speaker 3: over five thousand sailors and marines on board the USS
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Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln. The good news is in the next couple
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Speaker 3: of months they're supposed to be relieved. There's another aircraft
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Speaker 3: carrier coming to swap out with them. But Navy Times
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Speaker 3: reported on Tuesday that at least two sailors had to
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Speaker 3: be prevented from jumping overboard. That's how much stress they're under,
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Speaker 3: And there were other family members who spoke to the
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Speaker 3: outlet that said their loved ones were sort of in
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Speaker 3: a deep funk being on board. They just like they
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Speaker 3: wake up, it's the same thing. It's like Groundhog Day
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Speaker 3: every day, the same kind of stress. Don't know when
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Speaker 3: they're coming home, don't know when it's all going to end.
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Speaker 3: Secretary of War, though, Pete Hegseth says the reports are
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Speaker 3: really overblown, completely misrepresentative.
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Speaker 5: Listen, we make sure at every ship, every crew, every
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Speaker 5: captain has everything we can provide them at.
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Speaker 6: Every single moment. And some deployments are longer than others.
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Speaker 1: And I have more respect and gratitude for those sailors
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Speaker 1: than anybody.
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Speaker 2: What they do in those high seas and those austere.
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Speaker 3: Conditions with less port calls.
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Speaker 6: It's incredible.
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Speaker 7: Americans don't understand what it's.
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Speaker 3: Like to do that. So as someone who's been not
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Speaker 3: been on a ship like that, but been on long deployments,
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Speaker 3: I feel it. Yeah. I mean, if there's anyone who
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Speaker 3: does get it, it's Pete hag Seth because he's been
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Speaker 3: in the military. He's spent years in the military, so
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Speaker 3: I feel confident knowing somebody like that is in charge
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Speaker 3: because he does get it. He does get it, and
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Speaker 3: the troops love him when he shows up. The sailors,
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Speaker 3: the Marines, the soldiers adore him. They cheer him, they
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Speaker 3: work out with him. They really love the guy because
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Speaker 3: they know that he walked the walk and talked the
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Speaker 3: talk and can actually speak on behalf of them. But
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Speaker 3: enough is enough. And I think a lot of these
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Speaker 3: folks just want to get home, and just not even
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Speaker 3: they're not going to get out of the military. They
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Speaker 3: just want to is it family and loved ones and
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Speaker 3: spend some time like you would or anyone else would.
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Speaker 3: And I get that. You know, they're not actively in war.
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Speaker 3: We're in a skirmish right now with Iran, and they're
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Speaker 3: there to basically offset or prevent a war from happening.
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Speaker 3: But nonetheless they want to be relieved. So fortunately there
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Speaker 3: will be a swapout for them. But if the reports
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Speaker 3: are true, that's a serious deal. If some of the
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Speaker 3: sailors want that to jump overboard and their lives, that's
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Speaker 3: how much they were impacted by this, then that says
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Speaker 3: something about the conditions on board, and that's something that
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Speaker 3: has to be looked into and it's valid that we
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Speaker 3: look into that. We owe that to our sailors, our marines,
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Speaker 3: and our soldiers who at our Coast Guard members. By
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Speaker 3: the way, I'm in Space Force. I'm not trying to
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Speaker 3: leave anybody out. When you dedicate a chunk of your
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Speaker 3: life to the military, then the United States has to
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Speaker 3: back you one hundred percent for the rest of your life.
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Speaker 3: And they deserve that. Heck, even I've seen improvements at
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Speaker 3: VA hospitals. My dad is ninety five and a half,
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Speaker 3: God bless them. I'ming to see him today. And Dad
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Speaker 3: goes to the VA Hospital in the Bronx. Because Dad
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Speaker 3: was a Marine, a very proud Marine. He was a
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Speaker 3: sergeant and seprify. And whenever we walk into the VA
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Speaker 3: Hospital in the Bronx, you'd say, oh, if you've never
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Speaker 3: been there, a lot of people probably roll their eyes
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Speaker 3: and think it must be horrible. Just the opposite. One
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Speaker 3: of the best run facilities I have ever seen. Polite, courteous, spotless,
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Speaker 3: They are quick to serve. I walk in with my
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Speaker 3: dad and they run up to them with a wheelchair
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Speaker 3: and they don't know who I am. It's not like
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Speaker 3: it's like a TV or radio thing. They run up
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Speaker 3: with a wheelchair. They do it for everybody else too,
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Speaker 3: make sure the person the vet is taken care of.
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Speaker 3: Everything is right there, from their mental health cases to
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Speaker 3: their eyesight, to their hearing, to their general practitioners, x rays,
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Speaker 3: you name it, even people who need prosthetics, eyeglasses. It
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Speaker 3: is literally all under one roof. And if there's anybody
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Speaker 3: who learned how to do it right, And it used
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Speaker 3: to be terrible. The VA hospitals used to be awful
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Speaker 3: twenty thirty years ago. They have really flipped around. A
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Speaker 3: lot of that was because of President Trump in his
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Speaker 3: first term, hearing about the conditions and demanding the things change,
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Speaker 3: and by his second term those changes were implemented. So
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Speaker 3: it's really nice to see. And I want to do
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Speaker 3: a shout out to all the folks who work at
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Speaker 3: the VIA Hospital in the Bronx and all the VA
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Speaker 3: hospital facilities. I know there's the main one here in Manhattan,
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Speaker 3: there's one upstate, but I just am familiar personally with
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Speaker 3: the one in the Bronx, and I just want to
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Speaker 3: say thank you and a Lord of all the good
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Speaker 3: folks there who work so hard. But just for all
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Speaker 3: our military members, you know, we thank you for what
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Speaker 3: you're doing, and hopefully things aboard the Ussabraham Lincoln, if
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Speaker 3: there are any challenges, will get taken care of as
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Speaker 3: soon as possible. The editor in chief of Navy Times
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Speaker 3: spoke about the publication of this story and stands behind it.
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Speaker 8: Ever since we released that report, we're getting more and
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Speaker 8: more feedback from sailors from previous deployments.
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Speaker 2: Who are just really exhausted.
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Speaker 8: They are exhausted, and they're discussing that more and more
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Speaker 8: with us, because I think that's a narrative that has
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Speaker 8: been suppressed a little bit until now.
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Speaker 3: All Right, so we'll see what happens. And yeah, if
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Speaker 3: the sailors are being and marines aboard the ship are
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Speaker 3: not getting the treatment they should, the proper treatment they should,
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Speaker 3: the food, et cetera, and the care, then we got
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Speaker 3: to deal with that. We're spending a lot of money,
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Speaker 3: your tax dollars in mind, trillions going to the military
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Speaker 3: over the years. So these people, these men and women,
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Speaker 3: deserve the best, the absolute best. Heck, if I could,
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Speaker 3: and we could give them filat Mignon every day, if
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Speaker 3: that's what they want, they deserve whatever goodness we could
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Speaker 3: give them for the time that they're dedicating to us
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Speaker 3: eight hundred three to two one zero seven ten eight
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Speaker 3: hundred three two one zero seven ten Ken Rosatto in
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Speaker 3: seven ten w R. We'd love to hear from you
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Speaker 3: on the Great Mark Simone Show, the new first of
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Speaker 3: three hours. Hey, do you ever play the lottery? How
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Speaker 3: high does a lottery jackpot have to be for you
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Speaker 3: to buy a ticket? I ask izy our board up here,
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Speaker 3: But Izzy, how high is there a point that you
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Speaker 3: will buy a ticket when you normally would not? Five hundred,
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Speaker 3: five hundred million. Okay, that's a good number. I mean
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Speaker 3: I usually if it's anything more than one hundred, I'll
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Speaker 3: buy just one ticket. When it gets to five hundred,
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Speaker 3: I'll buy like three. Not that it really increases your odds.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't. Just in the back of my mind. It's
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Speaker 3: just for confidence sake. And then when it gets to
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Speaker 3: near a billion, then I'll start buying. You know, it
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Speaker 3: may only increase it by one billionth of a percent,
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Speaker 3: but whatever, you never know there is it does increase
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Speaker 3: the odds, but just a fraction of a fraction of
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Speaker 3: a percent. Anyway, If you hadn't heard, there was one
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Speaker 3: person in Quincy, Illinois, a town of thirty nine thousand people,
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Speaker 3: one person won the one point zero four billion dollar
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Speaker 3: powerball jackpot on Wednesday. How amazing is that hasn't come
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Speaker 3: forward yet, but literally everybody at the High V that's
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Speaker 3: the quickie mart where it was sold. Everybody's buzzing about
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Speaker 3: who might have bought that ticket. I don't know, would
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Speaker 3: you come forward and tell people? Would you keep it secret?
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Speaker 3: Some states allow you to stay anonymous, other states don't.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what Illinois case is. And yes, I'm
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Speaker 3: pronouncing the s because it's Illinois apostrophe. That's what I'm
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Speaker 3: how I'm pronouncing it Illinois. I don't know if Illinoi's
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Speaker 3: rules you see how I did that? Have it so
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Speaker 3: that you can be anonymous? I'm not sure, But either way,
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Speaker 3: I would be curious to see who the next billionaire is.
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Speaker 3: I guess after tax isn't taking the cash option. It's
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Speaker 3: a little over four hundred minion. I believe, yeah, you
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Speaker 3: can make something happen with that. But I'm just curious.
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Speaker 3: Give us a call, let us know. Is there a
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Speaker 3: point at which you buy a ticket and a point
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Speaker 3: under which you will not Just curious to see what
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Speaker 3: the answer is to that eight hundred and three to
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Speaker 3: two one zero seven ten wor the Voice of New York.
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Speaker 3: It is Ken rizettowin from Mark Simon on a Friday.
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Speaker 3: And for those who did not hear, President Trump is
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Speaker 3: coming to Nassau County today. He's going to help rally
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Speaker 3: support for Nasau County exect Bruce Blakeman's run for governor,
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Speaker 3: and the President says he's also coming to honor the
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Speaker 3: local police.
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Speaker 9: The President has indicated an interest in coming to honor
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Speaker 9: the people of law enforcement here in Nassau County. Nasau
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Speaker 9: County backs the Blue.
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Speaker 3: That is Bruce Blakeman running for governor. And he also
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Speaker 3: talked about how his county's police departments have worked successfully
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Speaker 3: with ICE agents up to this point.
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Speaker 9: We did it without raiding one church, one school, one business,
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Speaker 9: one daycare center.
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Speaker 3: It was very orderly. Well, there is a deal.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 3: So you have the governor of the state of New York,
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Speaker 3: who is being pressured by the liberal leftists like Mayor
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Speaker 3: Mom Donnie, to tell the police departments around the state
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Speaker 3: that you can have absolutely no interaction with ICE. Now.
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Speaker 3: Of course they say right away, well no, no, if
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Speaker 3: there's something criminal, then they could have an interaction. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: it's frowned upon, and it has to basically be proven
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Speaker 3: up and down that they had no choice but to
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Speaker 3: go to ICE because of a criminal situation. But these
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Speaker 3: police officers, believe me, they would love to report everybody
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Speaker 3: who is here illegally, whom they know is here illegally,
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Speaker 3: to ICE, but they are forbidden. Why are we going
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Speaker 3: out of our way to protect people who have committed
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Speaker 3: a crime. If you're in this country illegally, think about it.
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Speaker 3: It's called illegal alien, whether you like the term or not.
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Speaker 3: If you're in the country illegally, then let police do
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Speaker 3: their job. Now, you'll say, but Ken, that's a federal crime. Well,
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Speaker 3: guess what. Kidnapping is a federal crime, yet you allow
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Speaker 3: local police arrest people for that. Bank robbery is a
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Speaker 3: federal crime. Counterfeiting is a federal crime. Transporting people illegally
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Speaker 3: across state lines, sex trafficking, these are all federal crime.
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Speaker 3: But yet you allow the police to have interaction with
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Speaker 3: ICE or with federal agents on FBI, etc. On those cases.
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Speaker 3: But yet you won't let them have any kind of
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Speaker 3: interaction with federal agents when it comes to illegal aliens. Hmm,
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Speaker 3: let's scratch your head and wonder why, mayhaps because you
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Speaker 3: hope they will be future Democrat voters, or, in the
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Speaker 3: case of New Jersey, current Democrat voters, because they voted illegally.
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Speaker 3: And we know that hundreds have voted illegally in New
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Speaker 3: Jersey who should not have, and thousands upon thousands have
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Speaker 3: registered to vote illegally who should not have. Hmm, do
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Speaker 3: you think maybe that has a little something to do
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Speaker 3: with it. I guarantee if the people who come here
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Speaker 3: illegally could prove that they were going to vote Republican,
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Speaker 3: Democrats would erect a five hundred foot wall all around
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Speaker 3: the country that would blot out the sun because they
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Speaker 3: wouldn't want them here. But because they think these people
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Speaker 3: are all going to be Democrat voters in the present
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Speaker 3: or near future. This is why they are very happy
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Speaker 3: to do everything they can to support and defend them. Hey,
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Speaker 3: every three to two one zero seven ten, eight hundred
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Speaker 3: and three to two one zero seven ten the number
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Speaker 3: to call. We'd love to hear what you have to
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Speaker 3: say right here at the Marx simone show seven to
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Speaker 3: It is good to be on hour one of the
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Speaker 3: All those years as a news anchor, you had to
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Speaker 3: my teeth. You know, we as anchors, we're allowed to
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Speaker 3: tweak things, but you can't change the overall flavor and
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Speaker 3: Imagine sitting there with a bottle of tombs on the
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Speaker 3: set for twenty five years, with all the TV stations
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Speaker 3: All right, good be with you on a Friday to
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Speaker 3: Elmwood Park. Good morning to you.
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Speaker 11: Joe, Good morning Ken.
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Speaker 5: I don't want to sound facetius or ludicrous. Are they
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Speaker 5: gonna rig Blakeman's election like they did to us in Jersey?
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Speaker 3: I sure hope not. Let's keep our fingers crossed. I
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Speaker 3: love brutes Blake been Way, and I think he would
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Speaker 3: be a fantastic governor in the state of New York.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he has so much going for him. Look
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Speaker 3: what he did to NASA County in the short time
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Speaker 3: he's there.
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Speaker 5: And Jack would have been a good cover for us too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe that. I believe. In fact, it's funny
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Speaker 3: the few times that I said on the air that
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Speaker 3: he was avoiding me for interviews, No sooner did I
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Speaker 3: say that. His brother called and set up an interview
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Speaker 3: and we got him on the air, and he was
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Speaker 3: just so gracious and so kind. And guess what, All
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Speaker 3: that time I thought that my producers at my show
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Speaker 3: in New Jersey, I'm like, why is an't he responding?
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Speaker 3: Then I look at my phone and realized I had
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Speaker 3: Jack's phone number in my phone. The whole time. It
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Speaker 3: was my fault for not calling him, so I blame
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Speaker 3: myself for not reaching out to him earlier. But I
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Speaker 3: agree Bruce Blakeman would be the best thing for New York,
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Speaker 3: and Jack Sho could test it. But it's too late now, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: too late, is right. Now. We'll keep our fingers crossed
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Speaker 3: for next time. That's all we can do. Thank you
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Speaker 3: so much, Joe. We go to Bill in Idaho. Good morning, Bill, a.
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Speaker 11: Woman, thank you for mentioning the bomb PA because I've
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Speaker 11: been created in New York from nineteen seventy through five
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Speaker 11: and I've seen the improvements in the last five years.
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Speaker 2: It's just amazing, isn't.
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Speaker 3: It something You know, when you think government and I
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Speaker 3: don't mean to step on your bill. When you think government,
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Speaker 3: healthcare and whatnot, you generally tend to have a negative
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Speaker 3: stereotype in mind. And I remember the first time my
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Speaker 3: mother asked, as my mom used to go with my
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Speaker 3: dad and now neither one of them can can drive
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Speaker 3: down there alone. But they asked, would you come and
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Speaker 3: take Dad. I was living in Central Jersey, but I said,
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Speaker 3: of course I will, and I still do now. And
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Speaker 3: I remember going there, pulling up and seeing how immediately
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Speaker 3: you are greeted, You're welcome, They rush to get you
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Speaker 3: a wheelchair. Everything is what can I do for you, sir?
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Speaker 3: Where can I take you? Where do you need to go?
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Speaker 3: It's just courtesy that the vet's all deserve. And by
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Speaker 3: the way, thank you for your service to Bill. Bill
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Speaker 3: you're still there.
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Speaker 11: I'm here and you know I will got to I
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Speaker 11: spoke in just the last six months and that it's
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Speaker 11: you know, I have no idea I know this, but
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Speaker 11: it's Northern Idaho is like a center of medical and oh,
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Speaker 11: I mean because all of candidates coming down and taking
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Speaker 11: advantage of all the different facilities. But the VA is
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Speaker 11: like number three in the country, and they are I've
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Speaker 11: never seen anything like it. I mean they are. You know,
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Speaker 11: I'm eighty one years old and they treat me like,
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Speaker 11: you know, I'm some sort of hero.
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Speaker 3: Well you are. And the fact that the fact that
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Speaker 3: you served, sir, you are we appreciate what you did.
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Speaker 5: Well, not really.
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Speaker 11: When I got in in nineteen seventy and I had
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Speaker 11: to go over to the VA on twenty fourth Street,
23:42
Speaker 11: they were literally rats coming out of there because we
23:45
Speaker 11: were baby killers that you remember.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they thought that's what the liberals were saying.
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Speaker 3: But thankfully you are in one piece and you deserve
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Speaker 3: all the respect in the world at the VA. And thankfully,
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Speaker 3: because of President Trump in his first term, the VA
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Speaker 3: right now is getting the resources necessary and treating our
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Speaker 3: vets with the dignity and respect they deserve. We appreciate
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Speaker 3: your bill. Let's go to James and Suffolk conty or
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Speaker 3: on wo r.
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Speaker 12: HI.
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Speaker 13: I had a couple of comments. I served on a
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Speaker 13: ship of the USS Independence and it would do nine
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Speaker 13: month tours at a time, and there were times that
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Speaker 13: did eighteen months. And if somebody wanted to jump off
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Speaker 13: that ship, there's no trying. You could simply jump off.
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Speaker 13: So I don't believe the narrative that people are trying
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Speaker 13: to jump off the ship.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there are you know, James, Look, we
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Speaker 3: assume everybody who's in the military is of the same
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Speaker 3: lockstep mind conservatives, or that isn't the case. The military
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Speaker 3: is made up of all sorts of different people, just
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Speaker 3: like main you know, the folks on the streets, and
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Speaker 3: it could very well be that you have, you know,
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Speaker 3: one kid who might have depression and might be telling
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Speaker 3: their mother or father like, hey, you know it sucks here.
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Speaker 3: You never know, and that person goes and complaints to
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Speaker 3: the Navy Times. And remember it is the publication's job
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Speaker 3: to get eyeballs on the publication. But that doesn't mean
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Speaker 3: that things are going flawlessly either, so it's worth looking
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Speaker 3: into it.
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Speaker 13: It's definitely rough and being on a ship and you
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Speaker 13: work at twelve I was day seven days a week,
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Speaker 13: and it does get tough. But they were doing that
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Speaker 13: back in the eighties, eighteen month tours in the Persian Golf.
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Speaker 3: Would you get, James, you wants to jump? James, I
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Speaker 3: don't mean to step on you. I was going to
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Speaker 3: ask you, did you at least get port calls every
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Speaker 3: now and then.
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Speaker 13: I didn't, but sometimes you would, but not usually out
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Speaker 13: in the Persian golf. Wow, But if you wanted to jump,
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Speaker 13: you'd simply walk over to the edge and jump off.
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Speaker 13: There's no trying to jump. You could simply jump off
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Speaker 13: of it. But I also wanted to mention how they're
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Speaker 13: having that meeting with President Trump with the Nassau County Police,
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Speaker 13: and they said that Long Island Police are doing such
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Speaker 13: a great job, not talking about Nassau, but the Suffolk
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Speaker 13: Police do not prosecute illegals. They protect them. And I've
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Speaker 13: had one try to break into my house, broke into
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Speaker 13: my truck.
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Speaker 14: They refuse to.
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Speaker 13: File a report, claiming the police would just the DA's
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Speaker 13: and judges just release them, so they don't even arrest them,
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Speaker 13: even though I got them on camera breaking into my
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Speaker 13: truck and then two weeks later tried to break into
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Speaker 13: my house.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fed up with it. I listen New York.
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Speaker 3: New York needs to get a new governor and people
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Speaker 3: have to get out and listen. I got to blame
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Speaker 3: Republicans for this. Get out and vote for the Assembly
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Speaker 3: and the Senate. What happens is you get the Republican right,
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Speaker 3: they vote for president and then like, yeah, I only
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Speaker 3: vote for president. Well that's your problem. If you only
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Speaker 3: vote for president, ninety percent of your day to day
26:49
Speaker 3: life is not impacted by what the president does. It's
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Speaker 3: impacted by your governor, your mayor, your Assembly, your Senate.
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Speaker 3: Those are the people you have to vote for. Yet
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Speaker 3: they sit on their asses and they don't go out
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Speaker 3: and vote. And by the way, you can get an
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Speaker 3: absentee ballot. Do what the liberals do. Vote seventy two
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Speaker 3: years early and vote for your candidate instead of saying
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Speaker 3: I had to go food shopping that day, I had
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Speaker 3: to go to the bank. I didn't have time. Well,
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Speaker 3: then you get what you get if you don't go
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Speaker 3: out and vote for your assembly and send it. You
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Speaker 3: have people in the New York State Assembly who are
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Speaker 3: such radical leftists that they make mom Donnie look like
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Speaker 3: a conservative. Remember he was a New York State assembly man.
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Speaker 3: That's what you get. You have one hundred other people
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Speaker 3: like him up in Albany who are radicals. And Governor
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Speaker 3: Bucktooth excuse me, Governor Hokel just signs off on whatever
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Speaker 3: they give her because she just wants to live along
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Speaker 3: and get along and get re elected.
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Speaker 13: Pathetic, But love your show, and thanks for taking my call.
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Speaker 3: Well, thank you, James, appreciate your listening. But it is
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Speaker 3: How happy? Is Mark coming in for nine am? Now?
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Speaker 3: He's bad as excited as a guy waiting to get
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Speaker 3: the few times I've talked to Mark, he is an
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Speaker 3: go to Dave and Mahwan, New Jersey.
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Speaker 10: Hello, Dave, Hey, how you doing Ken good sir? First
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Speaker 10: thing I wanted to say is I can't wait till
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Speaker 10: you get your your own show. Oh no, great, hearing you? Yeah, No,
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Speaker 10: don't say that you're you're You're awesome at the radio.
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Speaker 3: You really are, thank you, And yeah, I.
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Speaker 10: Want I wanted to see what your feelings were about,
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Speaker 10: you know, biological men playing in female sports. I mean,
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Speaker 10: obviously you're probably against it, like like I am, and
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Speaker 10: most most are. But what should we what should we
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Speaker 10: do with the transgender athletes? Because no one ever talks
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Speaker 10: about the remedy. We just talked about the problem.
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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're saying, Dave. I think that's a brilliant question.
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Speaker 3: And I've thought about this. Nobody ever asks that question.
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Speaker 3: So I have friends who are trands and I've had
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Speaker 3: I've had this discussion, and I've asked, why don't you
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Speaker 3: know you could? You could ostensibly if you were a
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Speaker 3: trans female, meaning you're born a man biologically, but you
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Speaker 3: you perceive yourself as a female. Well, you could ostensibly
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Speaker 3: play in a man's team because you are still biologically
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Speaker 3: for the most part, unless they had surgery, they are
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Speaker 3: biologically male. Actually even after the surgery, they're biologically male
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Speaker 3: because their DNA says so. But then if not, then
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Speaker 3: have a league of your own. Listen, this is America.
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Speaker 3: I think it would be interesting to see a league
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Speaker 3: of trans people. And I bet you there would be
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Speaker 3: an audience for that, I think people more than anything else,
30:25
Speaker 3: out of the curiosity, would want to check it out.
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Speaker 3: But I think that the experiment is carrying itself out
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Speaker 3: right now with the WNBA. If we in fact start
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Speaker 3: getting the Eniscanters, etc. Starting their own teams or joining
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Speaker 3: teams as you know, men who are tongue in cheek
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Speaker 3: saying they are women. I want to see what happens
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Speaker 3: to women's sports, and I think this is the great experiment.
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Speaker 3: We'll find out what happens. But I am with you.
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Speaker 3: I think the whole idea of forcing women or forcing
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Speaker 3: the female teams to accept genetic men where they have
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Speaker 3: physiological differences that are clearly obvious, I think that is
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Speaker 3: just going to destroy women's sports. And there's no point
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Speaker 3: to having separate women's sports then at that point, right,
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Speaker 3: all right, my friend David, listen, I appreciate you calling
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Speaker 3: my fellow New Jersey man. I'm a I'm a garden
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Speaker 3: stater to we appreciate you, Bud. I have a great
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Speaker 3: day and a great weekend, you.
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Speaker 3: I had a very good morning too. It is Friday morning.
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Speaker 3: Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. Mike and Portchester,
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Speaker 5: Ah right, How are you doing?
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Speaker 3: I'm good, Mike, how are you sir? All right?
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Speaker 15: Listen.
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Speaker 5: I called because I keep learning.
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Speaker 14: About this.
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Speaker 5: Affordability problem and I'm wondering to myself, who are these people?
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Speaker 5: Because I solved the problem for myself. When I was
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Speaker 5: a younger man, graduated from high school. I always worked
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Speaker 5: two jobs, right, and I went to high school, graduated
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Speaker 5: from Stepanach. I went to Fairfield University. I graduated from there.
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Speaker 5: I always had a job. Even when I was in university.
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Speaker 5: They gave me a scholarship paid half a low way
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Speaker 5: through m hm. So you know there's a If there's
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Speaker 5: a will, there's a way.
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Speaker 3: Uh here it's called it's called being raised with a
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Speaker 3: work ethic, Mike, and that's what you were raised with. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: the more leftist types believe in entitlement, and they believe,
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Speaker 3: by the way, you know that affordability was not a
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Speaker 3: word a couple of years ago, when actually it should
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Speaker 3: have been under Biden. The minute Trump took off, as
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Speaker 3: suddenly the liberals created the buzzword. They love coming up
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Speaker 3: with buzzwords, Mike. And that's what it's all about, catchphrases
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Speaker 3: and buzzwords. That's why they're all full of baloney. All right,
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Speaker 3: Very nice to be with you on a Friday, and
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Speaker 3: a nice Friday Friday it days is going to be
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Speaker 3: currently cloudy today and highs up for eighties. Not a
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Speaker 3: weather the other day, saying how the heavy storms and
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Speaker 3: It is nice to be with you. Mark has a
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Speaker 3: long weekend. And this is Ken Risotto, the guy who
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Speaker 3: used to be on Channel seven and Channel five for
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Speaker 3: decades here in New York. Boy, does that make me
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Speaker 3: sound old? Mother? My mother, God bless her. She is
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Speaker 3: going to be eighty eight tomorrow. And she said, boy,
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Speaker 3: when you say that, you sound like you're one hundred
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Speaker 3: years old to see Thanks Mom, I appreciate that. No, really,
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Speaker 3: we got longevity in the family though. Dad is ninety
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Speaker 3: with you. We'd love to hear what you have to say.
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Speaker 3: The number to call is eight hundred three two one
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Speaker 3: zero seven ten. Eight hundred three two one zero seven ten. Well,
36:13
Speaker 3: of course, all the buzz this morning is on Luigi
36:18
Speaker 3: Luigi Luigi Mangioni. Everybody wants to find out what is
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Speaker 3: going to happen, and I think that Listen, I'll tell
36:26
Speaker 3: you right now what happens. Being in the TV biz,
36:28
Speaker 3: all right, Having been in the TV biz for forty
36:31
Speaker 3: years that I have been, you have people who work
36:35
Speaker 3: in the executive producer positions and the assignment desk positions,
36:40
Speaker 3: and whatever their personal opinions are, that's the way that
36:45
Speaker 3: stories get steered. Believe me now, I think in a
36:49
Speaker 3: lot of cases it's not even an intentional thing. It's
36:52
Speaker 3: just what their gut tells them. And a lot of
36:54
Speaker 3: these positions today are filled by women. Years ago, it
36:58
Speaker 3: was a lot of crotchety old men who used to
37:01
Speaker 3: fill the executive producer and the assignment manager positions today,
37:05
Speaker 3: it's more than it's I think seventy percent female in
37:08
Speaker 3: these roles. And that's why you tend to have politics
37:11
Speaker 3: that are way to the left in TV news, and
37:15
Speaker 3: you have story coverage that tends to be like this.
37:20
Speaker 3: I guarantee if you had old white guys, yes I'm
37:25
Speaker 3: being emphatic about that, old white guys running a TV
37:28
Speaker 3: station right now like they did thirty years ago and
37:31
Speaker 3: twenty years ago, you would not have all Luigi Mangioni
37:35
Speaker 3: all the time right now. But I'm looking at Fox News,
37:39
Speaker 3: I'm looking at MS now on the wall here Mark
37:41
Speaker 3: puts them all on. He has CNN, and then what
37:44
Speaker 3: is that spectrum one? Yeah, spectrum one in the lower corner,
37:48
Speaker 3: and everything is like, it's all on, all on, Luigi, Luigi, Luigi.
37:53
Speaker 3: It's been that way all morning. For those just wondering
37:56
Speaker 3: what we're talking about with Luigi Mangioni, the word is
38:00
Speaker 3: that his attorneys are supposed to go to federal court
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Speaker 3: this morning at eleven am and they will allegedly try
38:08
Speaker 3: to cut a plea deal with the federal judge bypassing
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Speaker 3: the prosecutor, going right to the federal judge. That means
38:15
Speaker 3: that they must have a deal in mind that they
38:17
Speaker 3: would like to offer. And the thought is if the
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Speaker 3: judge accepts the deal, then that could short circuit the
38:25
Speaker 3: state deal because in New York or the state trial,
38:28
Speaker 3: I should say, in New York State there are very
38:32
Speaker 3: liberal double jeopardy laws. The other way around doesn't work.
38:36
Speaker 3: So if he were convicted of a specific offense in
38:39
Speaker 3: New York State, the federal government is a little is
38:43
Speaker 3: a little different in the way that they interpret the
38:46
Speaker 3: double jeopardy. Now, double jeopardy is you can't try somebody
38:50
Speaker 3: twice for the same crime. And what they did here
38:53
Speaker 3: is in federal court, the crime that Luigi's accused of
38:59
Speaker 3: is stalking, not murder. It is stalking. It is a
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Speaker 3: different crime. In state court it is murder. Okay, so
39:09
Speaker 3: there is and there's some specific I'm giving you just
39:11
Speaker 3: the main charge, but there are other charges involved as well.
39:15
Speaker 3: But one can loosely interpret if there were a deal
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Speaker 3: reached in federal court, being that it's the same overall topic.
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Speaker 3: New York State looks at it as well. The stalking
39:26
Speaker 3: has to do with the murder. Therefore it's double jeopardy. Therefore,
39:30
Speaker 3: we'll throw it out. I think that's what the thought is,
39:33
Speaker 3: that if they come to an agreement in federal court
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Speaker 3: with the federal judge, that the state will toss out
39:39
Speaker 3: the state charges. That's what Luigi's lawyers are hoping for.
39:43
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it's going to happen that way, but
39:45
Speaker 3: it's sort of a hail Mary pass because I think
39:48
Speaker 3: they realize the evidence is so overwhelming against Luigi Mangoni
39:53
Speaker 3: right now, and everybody deserves a day in court. Don't
39:55
Speaker 3: get me wrong, Innocent, util proven guilty. But look, we
39:59
Speaker 3: have videotape, we have all his writings. There's so much
40:05
Speaker 3: that would potentially point to his alleged guilt here that
40:10
Speaker 3: people scratch their heads and say, what are you kidding me?
40:13
Speaker 3: The videotape alone is just grueling to see this. You
40:17
Speaker 3: know this man, Whatever you think about the insurance industry
40:21
Speaker 3: has nothing to do with it. Nobody deserves to be
40:25
Speaker 3: condemned to death because of their job, you know, Brian Thompson,
40:29
Speaker 3: you could hate the insurance industry. There is no butt
40:32
Speaker 3: he had a job. You don't like it, then don't
40:35
Speaker 3: buy the insurance. You know, well, Ken, it's easy for
40:38
Speaker 3: you to shay, no, you never death is not the
40:43
Speaker 3: same liberals, it's crazy. The same liberals who say that
40:46
Speaker 3: we can't have the the government imposed a death penalty
40:51
Speaker 3: seem to be okay with an individual imposing the death penalty.
40:54
Speaker 3: Really talk about hypocrisy, but yet it is the case
40:58
Speaker 3: the same like the Libs who would say that I'm
41:02
Speaker 3: against the death penalty because it's like not right, unlike
41:06
Speaker 3: the government shouldn't like kill people. What do you think
41:09
Speaker 3: about Luigi Mangoni killing the United Healthcare CEO allegedly Brian Thompson, Well, like, okay,
41:16
Speaker 3: in that case, he deserved that, really, Okay, So that's
41:20
Speaker 3: is he's looking at me like, what voice are you doing?
41:22
Speaker 3: That's that's my interpretation of a gen Z. Okay, Yeah,
41:26
Speaker 3: there it is. Oh no, if you want, I could
41:28
Speaker 3: do I could do my interpretation. There is there is
41:31
Speaker 3: upsweep talk like I've never heard before in gen Z.
41:33
Speaker 3: Everything like the girls all talk like they're asking a question.
41:37
Speaker 3: Everything is that I am so done with this anyway,
41:42
Speaker 3: that's a whole other topic. Eight hundred three to two
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Speaker 3: one zero seven ten. Eight hundred three to two one
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Speaker 3: zero seven ten. So because this supposedly will happen at eleven.
41:52
Speaker 3: Eleven is when the judge will meet with the defense attorneys,
41:57
Speaker 3: and ostensibly the defense attorneys will propose a plea deal
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Speaker 3: to the judge and then it's up to the judge
42:05
Speaker 3: to make a decision. We don't know if the judge
42:08
Speaker 3: will decide today. The judge may say, let me sleep
42:11
Speaker 3: on it, or the judge may say that's a good deal.
42:14
Speaker 3: We don't know. So that's why everybody is set. If
42:17
Speaker 3: you look outside Federal Court right now, it's like an
42:20
Speaker 3: army assembled thousands of members of the media from all
42:23
Speaker 3: over the world to see this, the results of this bushy,
42:26
Speaker 3: eyebrowed what I think is an unattractive, doe looking guy
42:30
Speaker 3: who needs a good shave and a bath. It's just
42:34
Speaker 3: a generational thing. I guess. I don't understand younger people
42:37
Speaker 3: who just look at him, Oh he's hooked. I don't
42:39
Speaker 3: think he's hoot at all.
42:41
Speaker 10: Just me.
42:42
Speaker 3: I don't know. We have different interpretations of what hot is.
42:45
Speaker 3: But then again, I don't think anyone's targeting me with
42:48
Speaker 3: with mister Mangoni, thankfully, but we would. We will be
42:54
Speaker 3: talking with a former New York State Supreme Court judge
42:58
Speaker 3: Judge Cammons, who is part of the same law firm
43:01
Speaker 3: my friend Arthurri Dalla and Imran Ansary that they are
43:05
Speaker 3: all partners in. And Judge Cammons, who's a super smart man.
43:09
Speaker 3: He's tried many cases like this, and he is going
43:13
Speaker 3: to speak to us this morning at ten forty and
43:16
Speaker 3: we'll talk to him about what's going on right now,
43:18
Speaker 3: what will happen in the state court if there is
43:21
Speaker 3: a plea deal reached in the federal court. So he
43:23
Speaker 3: is just the guy to talk to about this. We
43:26
Speaker 3: got an expert on this coming up just a little bit,
43:30
Speaker 3: and we don't have to know what you have to
43:31
Speaker 3: say about it. Eight hundred three to two one zero
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Speaker 3: seven ten. Eight hundred three to two one zero seven
43:37
Speaker 3: ten the number to call. Moving on to other topics
43:40
Speaker 3: in the meantime, have you heard about the uproar over
43:43
Speaker 3: ICE's new electric shock gloves all right now? You would
43:47
Speaker 3: think that they announced they were now hanging people in
43:50
Speaker 3: the public square. Of course, the left is just rallying
43:55
Speaker 3: against it, just another thing those evil ICE agents are doing.
44:00
Speaker 3: So to listen to the bucktooth one Kathy Hochel speaking
44:04
Speaker 3: about the stun gloves listen to.
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Speaker 16: This appears to me on its face to be a
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Speaker 16: violation of civil rights to cause that kind of physical
44:12
Speaker 16: harm to an individual, regardless of what the offense may be.
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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, really, Kathy, how I don't know how
44:20
Speaker 3: this woman is in office. I don't know how this
44:22
Speaker 3: woman can say that with a straight face. So these
44:25
Speaker 3: stun gloves have about one sixth the power output of
44:30
Speaker 3: a stun gun, which are legal for police to carry,
44:34
Speaker 3: so local police can use stun guns on people, and
44:37
Speaker 3: she doesn't have any issue with that, which, of course
44:40
Speaker 3: is what they use instead of an actual gun. So
44:44
Speaker 3: at the top of the pecking order of killing people
44:46
Speaker 3: is an actual gun, then you have a stun gun.
44:50
Speaker 3: And stun gloves actually are gloves that they that the
44:53
Speaker 3: police federal officers in this case, will wear in cold weather.
44:57
Speaker 3: They look like regular gloves. It's just that they are
45:00
Speaker 3: equipped with a switch that in the event somebody comes
45:02
Speaker 3: up to them and starts to get in their faces
45:04
Speaker 3: and they don't want to pull their gun and shoot
45:06
Speaker 3: the person. It's enough to shock them to kind of
45:09
Speaker 3: surprise them and take them off guard. The individuals who
45:12
Speaker 3: might be attacking the officers. So these are It's not
45:16
Speaker 3: something that's going to knock them to the ground and
45:17
Speaker 3: stop their heart and put them into agonizing pain. It's
45:22
Speaker 3: like it's sort of the equivalent as I was reading
45:24
Speaker 3: of a shock collar when you're training a pet. Oh, Ken,
45:28
Speaker 3: we're talking humans, not pets. Stop it, stop it. I'm
45:32
Speaker 3: trying to give an example. All right, So an analogy here.
45:36
Speaker 3: So these gloves are not agonizingly painful. They're not punishment
45:41
Speaker 3: being rendered. Hey listen, you don't attack a cop. You're
45:44
Speaker 3: never going to feel the other end of the glove.
45:46
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. So this glove is actually
45:49
Speaker 3: the equivalent. Would you prefer the cop punch the guy,
45:52
Speaker 3: because that's what the cop will have to do if
45:53
Speaker 3: they don't use the stun glove. But now these liberals
45:56
Speaker 3: want ICE age. They don't want to recognize that ICE
45:58
Speaker 3: agents are officers at all. It's problem number one. They
46:01
Speaker 3: barely like to recognize that local police are police. But
46:05
Speaker 3: anyone who is a friend of Trump, Oh, we can't
46:08
Speaker 3: give them the grace and the honor of being what
46:10
Speaker 3: they are. Congress designated ICE as federal officers. This happened
46:16
Speaker 3: Post nine to eleven. They are federal police officers with
46:20
Speaker 3: jurisdiction in all fifty states. You don't like it, change
46:24
Speaker 3: the fricking law, I said, fricking. Don't think I said
46:28
Speaker 3: the other word, but I want to say the other word.
46:30
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that. You don't like it, change
46:33
Speaker 3: the law. But stop trying to convince kids, gen Z
46:38
Speaker 3: and libs that somehow ICE agents have no authority and
46:42
Speaker 3: are just these untrained civilians running roughshod over over society.
46:47
Speaker 3: They're not. These are trained federal agents. All right. Maybe
46:52
Speaker 3: they don't have twenty years in police academy, but they're trained,
46:55
Speaker 3: and they're duly authorized, and they are out there exercising
47:00
Speaker 3: the law. They are imposing the law on us that
47:04
Speaker 3: our Congress voted for, and the president and even in
47:08
Speaker 3: many cases Democrat presidents signed acts into law. That's what
47:13
Speaker 3: they're carrying out. So don't get on their cases for
47:16
Speaker 3: doing their jobs. Libs don't want you using a stun gun.
47:20
Speaker 3: They don't want you using a baton. They don't want
47:23
Speaker 3: you defending yourself with your fists. They don't want you
47:26
Speaker 3: shooting people. They want ICE agents to stand there and
47:29
Speaker 3: become victims themselves because they deserve it, Because these poor
47:33
Speaker 3: they look at everybody who's here illegally as this poor
47:36
Speaker 3: innocent waif and these evil ICE agents deserve to stand
47:40
Speaker 3: there and take an attack. What is wrong with you people?
47:44
Speaker 3: So Kathy, go get your teeth fixed the right way
47:46
Speaker 3: and stop criticizing ICE agents who are doing their job.
47:49
Speaker 3: And by the way, New York State lawmakers who are
47:52
Speaker 3: trying to show their bravado. You could try to pass
47:55
Speaker 3: all the laws you want against ICE agents from using
47:59
Speaker 3: these stun gun gloves or anything else, or telling them
48:02
Speaker 3: they have to wear masks, or telling them that they
48:04
Speaker 3: can't be seen in public, or telling them that they
48:07
Speaker 3: have to have idea, and you could tell them all
48:09
Speaker 3: you want. It has no effect because under the Constitution,
48:15
Speaker 3: federal agents have superseding authority over local laws. So as
48:21
Speaker 3: long as the federal government says they can do X,
48:23
Speaker 3: Y and Z, they can do it. Because the last
48:25
Speaker 3: side checked, New York State is part of the United States.
48:29
Speaker 3: I don't know. If something happened when I was asleep,
48:32
Speaker 3: maybe you came out of the Union. But unless that
48:34
Speaker 3: is the case, they are part of the United States.
48:37
Speaker 3: You are here, we are all here part in the
48:39
Speaker 3: state of New York, and you can't do a darn
48:41
Speaker 3: thing about it. You could try charging the federal agents.
48:43
Speaker 3: It gets tossed out on the surface, So try all
48:46
Speaker 3: you want. Eight hundred three to two one zero seven ten,
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Speaker 3: eight hundred three to two to one zero seven ten again.
48:52
Speaker 3: Coming up a little later on, we will speak with
48:54
Speaker 3: retired Supreme Court Judge Barry Cammons, the name partner at Idella,
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Speaker 3: Bertuna and Cammon's Law firm here in the city, regarding
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Speaker 3: the possible federal Luigi MANGIONI plea deal. It is ten
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Speaker 3: twenty right now and we will take your calls next
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and three two one zero seven ten for
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Speaker 3: seven to ten wo R.
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Speaker 1: Now more of the Mark Simone Show on seven ten WR.
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Speaker 2: Filling in for Mark here again is Ken Rosatto.
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Speaker 3: Nice to be with you on a Friday morning. Let's
49:24
Speaker 3: go to our busy phones. A man with class because
49:27
Speaker 3: I love his first name, Kenneth in the Bronx.
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Speaker 14: Good morning, Hey, good morning, Mark, Good morning.
49:32
Speaker 3: Can't you could call me? You can call me Mark
49:35
Speaker 3: all you want. I take that with honor Kenneth.
49:37
Speaker 7: So no, good.
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Speaker 14: Morning, No you guys. I listened to you guys all
49:40
Speaker 14: the time. You and I I used to listen to
49:42
Speaker 14: seventy seven, not to discredit them, but you guys, I'll
49:45
Speaker 14: love to listen to your whole staff, from Curtis in
49:47
Speaker 14: the morning to you guys, to you name it and
49:50
Speaker 14: you know what Mark I mean. Kay, I want Tom,
49:52
Speaker 14: I apologize. I want to say, listen, if it wasn't
49:55
Speaker 14: for Trump, I talked to my friends about that, it
49:57
Speaker 14: wasn't for Trump, we had Kawala Harris and Tim Walrus
50:00
Speaker 14: in the White House. Ken, can you imagine what we
50:03
Speaker 14: would be going through.
50:05
Speaker 3: We would learn, we would learn how to do jazz
50:07
Speaker 3: hands from Tim Walras, That's for sure. He is such
50:11
Speaker 3: a character. You look at you look at Tim Watson,
50:13
Speaker 3: you think, how the heck did the people in Wisconsin
50:15
Speaker 3: ever vote for this man?
50:16
Speaker 14: It's and I'm so confused. This would be right now,
50:22
Speaker 14: right now with Trumpinghoffers, right now, listen, this comesry. This
50:25
Speaker 14: would be the purge I here right now. I want
50:26
Speaker 14: to send New York. I'm gonna try to talk briefly
50:28
Speaker 14: because I knew you have for other cause. But the
50:31
Speaker 14: thing too is Bruce Blakeman. This is the purge out here,
50:36
Speaker 14: you know, and we definitely need him so he can
50:39
Speaker 14: rescind those full moved bail catchers. That's what this catching
50:43
Speaker 14: re leave ball reforms, that's what destroyed New York. Only
50:47
Speaker 14: way we can get New York back we need Blakeman
50:50
Speaker 14: in here. We got to And I'm and Ken lastly too,
50:53
Speaker 14: I'm gonna ask you what can I do me and
50:56
Speaker 14: other friends we have here? I'm tired of enforcement? What
51:00
Speaker 14: could we do to How can I say to divvy
51:06
Speaker 14: up to get both for this guy here? And what
51:09
Speaker 14: can we do? Is there a way I can on
51:11
Speaker 14: a number I can contact, or someone I can call
51:13
Speaker 14: or jump in his bandwagon me some other friends we need,
51:16
Speaker 14: we need Blakeman.
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Speaker 3: Well, I agree with you, and I think the best
51:20
Speaker 3: way to do it, honestly, Kenneth is to just tell
51:22
Speaker 3: your friends about it. Every time you are at a gathering,
51:24
Speaker 3: people tend to bite their tongue. You know. The spouse
51:27
Speaker 3: always says, don't get into politics. No, I think we
51:30
Speaker 3: got to get into politics. Do you notice, Kennedy, Liberals
51:33
Speaker 3: never have a problem voicing their opinion at a gathering.
51:37
Speaker 3: Do you know what?
51:38
Speaker 14: Right?
51:39
Speaker 3: They always assumed that, Well, if you're intelligent, you have
51:41
Speaker 3: to think this way. I especially love the fact that
51:44
Speaker 3: people knew that I was a TV news anchor for
51:46
Speaker 3: all the years I was at Channel seven and Channel five,
51:48
Speaker 3: So they assume that we're all leftists. And and so
51:52
Speaker 3: I've been to a million gatherings and I stand there
51:54
Speaker 3: and smile, and they're like, these stupid Republicans, and they
51:59
Speaker 3: just think they're so superior and condescending. Little do they know.
52:02
Speaker 3: I would just stand there because as a former news
52:04
Speaker 3: anchor then I couldn't share my opinions. But the arrogance
52:08
Speaker 3: and condescension, it was just unreal. And and so I'm
52:11
Speaker 3: with you. I think the best way is just politely
52:14
Speaker 3: and respectfully share your opinion without coming across in a
52:18
Speaker 3: condescending way. And maybe it'll make them think at the
52:21
Speaker 3: very least. But I appreciate your thoughts, and I appreciate
52:23
Speaker 3: your call, and thank you for being in law enforcement.
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Speaker 5: Sir.
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Speaker 14: Okay, thanks Ken slash military retired God, thank you so much.
52:32
Speaker 14: And I'm an say too briefly, can'll let you go?
52:34
Speaker 14: I know a hope will do it. She wants to read,
52:35
Speaker 14: she wants these aliens. She want to give them an
52:37
Speaker 14: OTC card and with tend the miranda right before the
52:41
Speaker 14: ice takes them. That's what she wants. So yeah, she wants,
52:44
Speaker 14: but Ken, I just want to threat me right quickly.
52:46
Speaker 14: Can't listen. God bless you guys in Semu one zero
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Speaker 14: seventy ten.
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Speaker 2: You guys are the best, and we take you again.
52:52
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Kenneth, have a great day and
52:54
Speaker 3: a nice weekend. We appreciate you. Let's go to George
52:57
Speaker 3: out and Port jeff beautiful, poor Jefferson on Long Island.
53:01
Speaker 17: Don't tell people, don't tell people, it's lousy. I don't know.
53:05
Speaker 3: I used to live in Seldon. I used to live
53:07
Speaker 3: five minutes away from you and or as we used
53:09
Speaker 3: to call it, and you make an armpit sound, Seldon.
53:12
Speaker 3: That's where I used to live. But I lived. I
53:14
Speaker 3: enjoyed it.
53:15
Speaker 17: I lived in Garden City for forty years and I
53:18
Speaker 17: came out here to retire. It's great anyway. I'm a
53:21
Speaker 17: retired court clerk for many many years, and I want
53:23
Speaker 17: to make a comment about Mangioti and his sicker fan friends.
53:27
Speaker 17: Many many years ago, I was a court clerk in
53:29
Speaker 17: Queens and criminal around nineteen seventy six seventies. I don't
53:33
Speaker 17: remember exactly when they arrested son of Sam. He had
53:37
Speaker 17: cases in Queens where he shot a couple of people
53:40
Speaker 17: in Queens and we were going to arraign him and
53:43
Speaker 17: I was going to be the one of I don't know,
53:45
Speaker 17: being lucky or not lucky because the crowds. We were
53:47
Speaker 17: going to arraign him and Sufton Boulevard at the Jamaica Courthouse,
53:51
Speaker 17: but there were so many people coming there. We moved
53:54
Speaker 17: him to the regular criminal court building in the Queens
53:59
Speaker 17: Boulevard and you know how to go there with the judge.
54:02
Speaker 17: This is a funny part of the story. He's passed
54:04
Speaker 17: away now, Judge Arthur Lawnshin, he was a tough guy
54:07
Speaker 17: World War two vintage, and he's reading the report and
54:10
Speaker 17: he's laughing.
54:11
Speaker 10: That laught.
54:11
Speaker 17: He smiled and he goes, oh, at least something's coming
54:16
Speaker 17: to go dout of this, Like, oh, what's that, Judge?
54:18
Speaker 17: I read the report. A lot of people hate us.
54:21
Speaker 17: He was Jewish, but he reads that sother said was adopted.
54:24
Speaker 17: He was really Italian. I don't know if you're going
54:26
Speaker 17: to get a laugh out of that. But anyway, we
54:29
Speaker 17: go to we go over to Sefton Boulevard and it
54:32
Speaker 17: was a madhouse. You know, they would let him in
54:35
Speaker 17: outside The only difference was there were people with the
54:38
Speaker 17: signs hang him, kill him.
54:40
Speaker 9: You know.
54:40
Speaker 17: It was the whole Summer of Sam thing. It really
54:43
Speaker 17: destroyed the city. I don't know how old you are.
54:45
Speaker 3: If I'm almost sixty, I remember it unfortunately all too well.
54:48
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm in my seventies. But anyway, but there were girls.
54:51
Speaker 17: There were ladies there, you know, yelling and screaming we
54:56
Speaker 17: love you, and they were throwing papers with their phone
55:00
Speaker 17: number on.
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Speaker 3: It isn't that crazy.
55:03
Speaker 17: I don't get it. I mean, I'm somewhat educated. I'm
55:06
Speaker 17: not a psychologist. I don't get it. I have daughters.
55:10
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it is. Girl. A lot of
55:12
Speaker 3: women they like the bad boy, the you know, they
55:16
Speaker 3: like that person. There's something about being close to danger
55:19
Speaker 3: yet the person, like a Luigi or like a Son
55:22
Speaker 3: of Sam. They had that look that almost looks nice
55:25
Speaker 3: and taught, like you could talk to the person. They're murderers.
55:29
Speaker 3: They're cold blooded murderers, allegedly because one still has to
55:33
Speaker 3: have their day in court. But these people, listen, they killed,
55:36
Speaker 3: in the case of Son of Sam, multiple people brutally.
55:40
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't get it either. But it's like
55:43
Speaker 3: for the moment of being smitten by the individual, like
55:47
Speaker 3: change your mind. Wake up, go have a cup of
55:49
Speaker 3: coffee and realize these people killed human beings who did
55:52
Speaker 3: not deserve Even if they did deserve to die, they
55:55
Speaker 3: didn't deserve to die. You know what I'm saying, So
55:57
Speaker 3: what are you doing? I'm with you one hundred percent.
56:00
Speaker 3: I appreciate the phone call, but the clock is now
56:02
Speaker 3: working against us.
56:03
Speaker 1: This is the Mark Simone Show on seven to ten.
56:06
Speaker 1: Wor Kin from Mark Today, Here's Ken Rosato.
56:11
Speaker 3: And it's very good to be with you on this Friday,
56:13
Speaker 3: a Friday where the big buzz is about Luigi MANGIONI
56:17
Speaker 3: expected to plead guilty this morning or work a plea deal.
56:20
Speaker 3: I should say, not plead guilty, but work a plea
56:22
Speaker 3: deal in federal court to federal stalking charges. Some kind
56:26
Speaker 3: of a plea deal in the works is the word
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Speaker 3: tied to the December twenty twenty four killing of United
56:33
Speaker 3: Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson outside of the New York Hilton
56:37
Speaker 3: with us right now is retired Supreme Court Judge Barry Cammons,
56:40
Speaker 3: named partner at Idala, Bertuna and Camon's law firm. Here
56:44
Speaker 3: in the city regarding the possible federal Luigi Mangioni plead deal.
56:48
Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Judge Cammons.
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Speaker 18: Good morning, how are you? Thanks for having me on.
56:52
Speaker 3: Great to have you on, sir, And just full disclosure
56:55
Speaker 3: for people to know that one of your partners there, Imron,
56:57
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, is my lawyer. So I just want to
57:00
Speaker 3: make sure we put it all out on the table
57:01
Speaker 3: so no one says, hey, you never disclose that. So
57:04
Speaker 3: full disclosure. So judge, let's and my uncle used to
57:08
Speaker 3: be a state Supreme Court judge too. I'm sure you
57:10
Speaker 3: came across Pete Risotto in your days. Sure, yeah, he's
57:16
Speaker 3: dad's baby brother still around. So tell us what it
57:19
Speaker 3: is that Luigi Mangioni's attorney may be doing with the
57:23
Speaker 3: federal judge at eleven this morning. He's bypassing the prosecutor
57:26
Speaker 3: speaking directly with the judge. What's the purpose of that.
57:30
Speaker 18: Well, of course, no one knows exactly what's going to
57:33
Speaker 18: be happening. I mean, they may have worked out something
57:35
Speaker 18: in advance, ready to go this morning. The plea may
57:39
Speaker 18: be taken this morning. But the what is very very
57:43
Speaker 18: important is this will set off a chain of events
57:47
Speaker 18: that will follow into the state court. There's something called
57:51
Speaker 18: double jeopardy, which I'm sure everyone is aware of. It's
57:54
Speaker 18: an incredibly difficult subject. Basically, it says that no one
57:57
Speaker 18: should be you know, tried tries.
57:59
Speaker 3: For the same crime.
58:01
Speaker 18: Just to give an example, there was a fellow by
58:03
Speaker 18: the name of Paul Manafort years ago who was Trump's
58:05
Speaker 18: campaign manager, who was convicted in federal court of fraud.
58:09
Speaker 18: Say Vance, who was the DA in Manhattan, then try
58:13
Speaker 18: to go to trial and indict him and go to
58:16
Speaker 18: trial for fraud in the state court. But the court
58:19
Speaker 18: in state court dismissed the fraud chargers, saying that the
58:23
Speaker 18: fraud in state court was exactly the same as the
58:26
Speaker 18: fraud in the federal court. Therefore, he dismissed the charges
58:29
Speaker 18: and that was upheld. This is a much more complicated situation.
58:33
Speaker 18: If man Geon pleads to stalking in the federal court,
58:37
Speaker 18: which is basically stalking and traveling an interstate commerce commerce
58:43
Speaker 18: for the purpose of committing a murder, which carries a
58:47
Speaker 18: life sentence, the defense will then move in the state
58:51
Speaker 18: court to dismiss the charges against Mangeon, arguing that this
58:55
Speaker 18: is also double jeopardy. However, in my opinion, it is not.
58:59
Speaker 18: Of course, they'll be litigation and they'll have to be
59:02
Speaker 18: you know, extensive briefing and arguments on this. It's the
59:07
Speaker 18: prosecution is going to argue in state court that they're
59:09
Speaker 18: not the same crime, that there are different elements, even
59:12
Speaker 18: though it's the same criminal transaction, the same that happened
59:17
Speaker 18: in front of the Hotel Hilton, that there are different elements.
59:22
Speaker 18: The state crime is murder, the federal crime is stalking,
59:26
Speaker 18: and the DA is going to argue they serve different purposes,
59:29
Speaker 18: different intent So it's going to be interesting. Of course,
59:33
Speaker 18: if the judge in the state denies the emotion and
59:38
Speaker 18: says no, it's not double jeopardy, he can be tried
59:40
Speaker 18: in state court, well, then the ballgame is over for
59:43
Speaker 18: Manngeon because he cannot go to trial in state court.
59:46
Speaker 2: And the reason why.
59:48
Speaker 18: The reason why is because if he takes a plee
59:51
Speaker 18: this morning and admits that he committed murder as part
59:55
Speaker 18: of stalking and so forth, that can be used against him.
1:00:00
Speaker 18: It can be introduced against him in the state court.
1:00:02
Speaker 18: And no lawyer in his right mind is going to
1:00:05
Speaker 18: go to trial where he knows that that admission is
1:00:08
Speaker 18: going to come in against his client. On trial, so
1:00:12
Speaker 18: he's going to have to take a plea in state court.
1:00:14
Speaker 2: Now, what the lawyer may be doing.
1:00:15
Speaker 18: Here is setting up a situation where he pleads in
1:00:19
Speaker 18: both courts, but does the serves his sentence in the
1:00:23
Speaker 18: federal system. He may feel that the jail in the
1:00:27
Speaker 18: jails in the federal system, or when I say better,
1:00:30
Speaker 18: I mean no jail is great, but it's better serving
1:00:33
Speaker 18: time in the federal prison than it is in the state.
1:00:35
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not, as.
1:00:37
Speaker 18: You know, I don't have any expertise in the federal
1:00:40
Speaker 18: jails as far as you know, as far as what
1:00:43
Speaker 18: level of comfort you have, but I can't imagine that
1:00:46
Speaker 18: any federal maximum security prison in federal court is a picnic.
1:00:51
Speaker 18: But it may be better. It may be better than
1:00:54
Speaker 18: what he would serve if he had to serve in
1:00:56
Speaker 18: the New York state maximum securities, which I know that
1:00:59
Speaker 18: I know, or horrible places to serve.
1:01:01
Speaker 3: Some so, and your honor, your honor, I will still
1:01:04
Speaker 3: call you that, even though you're retired now from that position,
1:01:07
Speaker 3: you're always your honor. Part of it, I would think,
1:01:10
Speaker 3: would be the the clientele that you are serving with
1:01:13
Speaker 3: in federal court versus state court. Do you think that
1:01:15
Speaker 3: has a lot to do with it.
1:01:19
Speaker 18: Well, you're talking about the types of prisoners, you mean, right.
1:01:22
Speaker 3: I'm trying to be as gentle as possible with my
1:01:25
Speaker 3: tongue deep in my cheek.
1:01:27
Speaker 18: No, No, it's true that. Look, the clientele is different
1:01:31
Speaker 18: in the prison. But we're talking about a violent crime here.
1:01:35
Speaker 18: So if he's put in a prison and a maximum
1:01:37
Speaker 18: prin prison with other individuals have committed violent crimes, they
1:01:41
Speaker 18: are particularly dangerous people. I mean, there are some very
1:01:45
Speaker 18: difficult prisons in the Fiddle system, like the one there's
1:01:48
Speaker 18: one in Colorado that a maximum security that is totally underground.
1:01:53
Speaker 18: I mean, you just don't see daylight for the rest
1:01:55
Speaker 18: of your life. I mean, it's it's just incredible. So
1:01:57
Speaker 18: it's you know, the clientele maybe different. I mean, the
1:02:00
Speaker 18: white collar criminals obviously in federal courts are different than
1:02:05
Speaker 18: the you know, the the street crime people in the
1:02:08
Speaker 18: in the state system.
1:02:09
Speaker 3: In New York.
1:02:10
Speaker 18: But he's not going to be in with white collar criminals.
1:02:12
Speaker 18: He's going to be in with violent predators. And so look,
1:02:17
Speaker 18: I'm sure that his team has thought this through and
1:02:20
Speaker 18: I'm sure this is all mapped out as part as
1:02:22
Speaker 18: I said a chess match.
1:02:25
Speaker 3: They will.
1:02:25
Speaker 18: They're trying to figure out. Look, look, I never personally
1:02:29
Speaker 18: figure could figure out what the defense was going to
1:02:31
Speaker 18: be in the state court anyway, right, you.
1:02:34
Speaker 6: Know, he.
1:02:36
Speaker 18: It's it's they've got the bullet from the gun that
1:02:39
Speaker 18: he had, which matches the you know what was removed
1:02:42
Speaker 18: from the deceased. So where is he going. There's no
1:02:44
Speaker 18: defense in this case, so you know, he may have
1:02:47
Speaker 18: to wind up leading in state as well.
1:02:49
Speaker 3: So this is basically a giant hail Mary pass. They're
1:02:52
Speaker 3: trying to see what will stick, what won't stick, what
1:02:55
Speaker 3: could be decided, what you know, and depending also on
1:02:57
Speaker 3: the mood of the judge. According to the djay, they're
1:03:00
Speaker 3: saying that no, there is no deal reached, there was
1:03:03
Speaker 3: no agreement reached in advance that if mister Manjoni's attorneys
1:03:07
Speaker 3: would like to plea on his behalf guilty, then we'll
1:03:10
Speaker 3: accept whatever plea, etc. The DOJ is saying that they
1:03:13
Speaker 3: did not have a any kind of a deal. So
1:03:16
Speaker 3: it could very well be then that the attorney will
1:03:19
Speaker 3: present the judge something for the very first time this
1:03:21
Speaker 3: morning at eleven o'clock.
1:03:22
Speaker 18: Then right right, he may not actually enter a plea
1:03:26
Speaker 18: they may work out the beginnings or the sort of
1:03:29
Speaker 18: the groundwork for a plea, and they may come back
1:03:32
Speaker 18: next week two weeks, you know, and actually enter the plea.
1:03:35
Speaker 18: But at least this sets the case on a different
1:03:38
Speaker 18: path because there's a September right date looming in, you know,
1:03:43
Speaker 18: for trial, and they want to the lawyers from Ango
1:03:46
Speaker 18: and want to work out whatever they want to work
1:03:48
Speaker 18: out before that September eighth State because if there's an
1:03:51
Speaker 18: actually an entering of a plea, that will set off then,
1:03:54
Speaker 18: as I said, a motion in the stakehourt to postpone
1:03:57
Speaker 18: the trial so they can litigate whatther that that trial
1:04:00
Speaker 18: can go forward because of double jeopardy, and that's going
1:04:03
Speaker 18: to take a while. I mean, there's going to be
1:04:04
Speaker 18: extensive briefing on that. So I think though that the
1:04:08
Speaker 18: problem in the State Court is, I know is a
1:04:09
Speaker 18: former judge. This is going to set up a problem
1:04:12
Speaker 18: because a lot of jurors were summoned for that September
1:04:15
Speaker 18: race date. I mean extra hundreds of people have been
1:04:17
Speaker 18: summoned by subpoenia, not subpoena by notice, and a lot
1:04:22
Speaker 18: of people are going to show up in September Race.
1:04:23
Speaker 18: Now those notices have gone out, and if all those
1:04:27
Speaker 18: people show up at one hundred Center Street and that
1:04:30
Speaker 18: trial is off, the court administrators are not going to
1:04:33
Speaker 18: be that amused.
1:04:34
Speaker 3: You know, well, they'll have plenty of extra jury pool
1:04:36
Speaker 3: to draw frum for other cases. At least you don't
1:04:40
Speaker 3: have to worry about that that. Yeah, really, you have
1:04:43
Speaker 3: them right there. Let's just tell everybody who this is.
1:04:45
Speaker 3: This is retired Supreme Court Judge Barry Cammon's name's partner
1:04:49
Speaker 3: at Idalla Bertuna and Cammon's law firm here in the city.
1:04:52
Speaker 3: We're talking about the possible federal Luigi Mangeon plea, potential
1:04:57
Speaker 3: plea deal. We don't really know what's happening yet. It's
1:05:00
Speaker 3: going to ostensibly happen in just about ten minutes from now,
1:05:04
Speaker 3: but I think a lot of members of the media
1:05:06
Speaker 3: are excitedly there thinking at eleven o'clock and ten seconds
1:05:11
Speaker 3: we're going to have an answer about something. And that
1:05:13
Speaker 3: really isn't going to be the case, is it. No?
1:05:15
Speaker 18: No, No, things don't happen that quickly in court. I mean,
1:05:19
Speaker 18: I think there's going to be some discussion. The defense
1:05:24
Speaker 18: may make certain applications, they may look. I agree with
1:05:28
Speaker 18: you if there's been no discussion. Well, although it's hard
1:05:31
Speaker 18: to believe, I have to think there's been some discussion
1:05:34
Speaker 18: with the prosecutor in the federal court about a certain
1:05:37
Speaker 18: you know, trying to work out possibly a plea to
1:05:40
Speaker 18: this charge with less than life as a sentence. But
1:05:46
Speaker 18: so maybe they'll talk about setting a limit on what
1:05:49
Speaker 18: the on what the amount of time would be. But
1:05:52
Speaker 18: as you know, if federal court is completely different than
1:05:54
Speaker 18: in stakehourt and state court. You work out a plea,
1:05:56
Speaker 18: there's a promise by the judge at the time you
1:05:59
Speaker 18: take the plea, you know when you come back the
1:06:01
Speaker 18: sentence that what you will be getting. In federal court,
1:06:04
Speaker 18: there is no such thing. With some rare exceptions, you
1:06:09
Speaker 18: take a plea and you know basically the guidelines, the
1:06:12
Speaker 18: range of you know where you may wind up as
1:06:15
Speaker 18: far as a sentence, but you do not know what
1:06:17
Speaker 18: the sentence will be until you come back and the
1:06:20
Speaker 18: judge utters that sentence. In the data sense, that's when
1:06:23
Speaker 18: you actually learn what you You know you're going to
1:06:25
Speaker 18: jail where you're not going to jail. Of course in
1:06:27
Speaker 18: this case he is. But there are some cases where
1:06:30
Speaker 18: the difference is between jail and probation, and you don't
1:06:33
Speaker 18: know that until the judge says I'm sentencing you to
1:06:37
Speaker 18: the following And there's a lot of drama and the
1:06:39
Speaker 18: Federal Court because of that, because there is no promise.
1:06:42
Speaker 3: By the judge and you and you know that's why.
1:06:44
Speaker 18: Good advocacy by people like author right Doll and my
1:06:46
Speaker 18: partner can sometimes change the judge's mind at the last
1:06:51
Speaker 18: minute and changes from a jail sentence to probation. So
1:06:55
Speaker 18: so yeah, there's but as you say, there's no one
1:06:59
Speaker 18: knows what's going to happen and now in five minutes.
1:07:02
Speaker 18: But I'll tell you one thing, there's a lot of drama,
1:07:05
Speaker 18: and I guess that's what makes the media happy because they're,
1:07:08
Speaker 18: you know, they're reporting on something that's got a lot
1:07:11
Speaker 18: of excitement.
1:07:12
Speaker 3: Judge, just with about thirty seconds left, just out of curiosity,
1:07:15
Speaker 3: as you've you've been on both sides of this. Now
1:07:18
Speaker 3: because you were a sitting Supreme Court judge and you're
1:07:21
Speaker 3: an attorney, how much influence does the attorney have on
1:07:28
Speaker 3: a judge's decision.
1:07:31
Speaker 18: I think it's not the well the judge, a judge
1:07:35
Speaker 18: who respects the attorney will listen obviously more carefully. And
1:07:38
Speaker 18: when when I was a judge and I saw certain
1:07:40
Speaker 18: lawyers walking in the courtroom, I would sort of kind
1:07:42
Speaker 18: of sort of tune them out a little bit because
1:07:45
Speaker 18: I said, oh, here comes mister x. I. You know,
1:07:47
Speaker 18: if they don't have credibility, you know, it hurts the
1:07:51
Speaker 18: client if they've got credibility. And of course you've got
1:07:54
Speaker 18: to have the advocacy and the most important, you've got
1:07:57
Speaker 18: to have the law. You know, they say a good
1:07:59
Speaker 18: lawyer the law, a great lawyer and knows the judge.
1:08:03
Speaker 3: I love that. I think I heard my uncle say
1:08:05
Speaker 3: that once or twice. We appreciate you so much, Retired
1:08:08
Speaker 3: Supreme Court Judge Barry Cammon's named partner at Idalla Burtuna
1:08:12
Speaker 3: and Cammon's law firm here in the city. Again, we're
1:08:15
Speaker 3: talking about the possible federal Luigi Manjoon potential plea. We
1:08:19
Speaker 3: don't know what it is. We'll find out in a
1:08:21
Speaker 3: little bit. We thank you so much for coming on
1:08:22
Speaker 3: this morning. You're clarifying. Have a great day.
1:08:25
Speaker 2: Thank you my pleasure.
1:08:27
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Speaker 3: everyone's buzzing about is Luigi Mangioni. He is right now
1:11:31
Speaker 3: to federal court, or at least his attorney is trying
1:11:34
Speaker 3: to allegedly hear a work some kind of a plea deal.
1:11:38
Speaker 3: No word on if there was any kind of arrangement
1:11:41
Speaker 3: in advance, if there was any kind of a deal
1:11:44
Speaker 3: reach in advance, and this is a formality, or if
1:11:47
Speaker 3: this is the first time that the attorney is meeting
1:11:50
Speaker 3: with the federal judge. We just spoke with a former
1:11:53
Speaker 3: New York State Supreme Court judge Judge Cammons, and he
1:11:58
Speaker 3: said that it is probably more likely that there was
1:12:01
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1:12:06
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1:12:08
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1:12:11
Speaker 3: right now the media is waiting breathlessly because members of
1:12:16
Speaker 3: the media have fallen in love with this accused murderer,
1:12:19
Speaker 3: and so they are all excited about the fact that
1:12:22
Speaker 3: this bushy, eyebrowed, scruffy looking frat boy looking rich kid.
1:12:27
Speaker 3: Remember he comes from very wealthy parents, that he's accused
1:12:31
Speaker 3: of murdering a dad and a husband in cold blood,
1:12:36
Speaker 3: and yet there are people who are all excited and
1:12:38
Speaker 3: think he's the greatest thing since slice spread And it
1:12:40
Speaker 3: just breaks my heart to see anyone think that, even
1:12:43
Speaker 3: somebody just accused of it should make you really wonder
1:12:48
Speaker 3: why somebody feels attracted to an individual like that. But
1:12:52
Speaker 3: either way, listen, we're all innocent until proven guilty. He
1:12:55
Speaker 3: gets a day in court, we'll see what happens, but
1:12:57
Speaker 3: we will find out if in fact there is a
1:13:00
Speaker 3: plea deal offered if a judge decides on it. Members
1:13:04
Speaker 3: of the media, I think thought that the midde and
1:13:06
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock came, we'd have an answer. It maybe days
1:13:09
Speaker 3: before we have an answer. We don't know. We don't
1:13:11
Speaker 3: even know for sure that the defense came with some
1:13:15
Speaker 3: kind of a suggestion to the judge. But we will
1:13:17
Speaker 3: find out what happens. The whole point of having this
1:13:22
Speaker 3: deal made, as Judge Cammon's pointed out when we had
1:13:26
Speaker 3: him on a little earlier, was if a deal is
1:13:30
Speaker 3: reached with the federal court. Remember there are two different
1:13:34
Speaker 3: courts involved in this case. There are federal charges, there
1:13:38
Speaker 3: are state charges to avoid the idea of double jeopardy,
1:13:42
Speaker 3: that is, being tried for the same case twice, which
1:13:46
Speaker 3: is against the law. Okay, can't have double jeopardy. What
1:13:49
Speaker 3: happened was the state has charged Luigi Mangoni with murder,
1:13:56
Speaker 3: and the federal charges are for stalking because video allegedly
1:14:02
Speaker 3: shows Mangoni outside the New York Hilton all night waiting
1:14:07
Speaker 3: for ostensibly waiting for Brian Thompson, and that's why there
1:14:12
Speaker 3: are stalking charges. So those are two different charges. What
1:14:16
Speaker 3: the judge had said when we spoke to him earlier
1:14:19
Speaker 3: was that if there is a deal reached with Mangoni
1:14:24
Speaker 3: on the stalking charges the state. In the state case,
1:14:28
Speaker 3: his defense attorneys will try to say, well, the stalking
1:14:32
Speaker 3: allegedly led to the murder, and so you can't charge
1:14:35
Speaker 3: him again, we can't go through with the state case.
1:14:37
Speaker 3: So that would be double jeopardy, so you throw out
1:14:40
Speaker 3: the state case. But Judge Cammons says that no, there
1:14:43
Speaker 3: could be a good argument made that those are two
1:14:45
Speaker 3: very separate charges. And even if say there is an
1:14:49
Speaker 3: agreement made in the federal courts today right now at
1:14:53
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock little after eleven, it's eleven eleven, that say,
1:14:58
Speaker 3: for instance, he says, yes, I stalked and I committed murder.
1:15:03
Speaker 3: That now we've made the plea, it's on the public record.
1:15:07
Speaker 3: If that is the case, I'm just saying, and we
1:15:09
Speaker 3: don't know that that's the case. Then go back to
1:15:12
Speaker 3: the state court. The state court could say, well, now
1:15:15
Speaker 3: he's already pleaded guilty and that's a whole other case.
1:15:19
Speaker 3: Now now it's try to defend yourself in state court.
1:15:21
Speaker 3: If they determine those are two separate charges, and he
1:15:24
Speaker 3: could go to court, go to trial, I should say
1:15:26
Speaker 3: in the state court and move forward. So we'll see
1:15:29
Speaker 3: what happens. There'll be a lot of legal experts, a
1:15:31
Speaker 3: lot more knowledgeable than me about this, who'll be talking
1:15:34
Speaker 3: about this all day today. We will stay on top
1:15:36
Speaker 3: of it here at seven to ten. Wur Daria Albinger
1:15:40
Speaker 3: has been talking about it all morning too, and she'll
1:15:42
Speaker 3: have more about it throughout the morning, and we'll hear
1:15:45
Speaker 3: more also from Liz Warner through the day she continues
1:15:48
Speaker 3: the news. In terms of legal experts, there was one
1:15:51
Speaker 3: legal expert on ABC News already talking about this. This
1:15:55
Speaker 3: is ABC News Legal contributor Brian Buckmeyer, who had this
1:15:59
Speaker 3: to I think.
1:16:00
Speaker 4: The plan is to try to get a good deal
1:16:02
Speaker 4: from the judge, sidestep the prosecution, take it from there,
1:16:05
Speaker 4: and in hope of double jeopardy argument wins in the
1:16:07
Speaker 4: state court. And that's how you get Luigi Manngioni serving
1:16:10
Speaker 4: twelve years in prison because they probably believe this is
1:16:12
Speaker 4: a mitigation.
1:16:13
Speaker 2: Case rather than a trial case.
1:16:14
Speaker 4: I think that's something that makes sense to me.
1:16:16
Speaker 3: I think if he ends up, if that were the case,
1:16:18
Speaker 3: and we don't know what the case is going to be,
1:16:20
Speaker 3: I think mister Buckmeyer was hypothesizing, obviously, but if that
1:16:26
Speaker 3: were the case, if this twenty eight year old man
1:16:28
Speaker 3: got twelve years for allegedly being seen on video allegedly
1:16:32
Speaker 3: shooting a father, a husband in the back in cold
1:16:37
Speaker 3: blood early in the morning who was simply walking to
1:16:40
Speaker 3: a breakfast. I think you'd have a lot of people
1:16:43
Speaker 3: in this country very upset, and you'd have a lot
1:16:46
Speaker 3: of people saying, you know what, if I couldn't afford
1:16:48
Speaker 3: a good attorney, my kid would be spending life in prison,
1:16:53
Speaker 3: and this guy gets away with twelve years behind bars.
1:16:56
Speaker 3: I think you'd have a lot of people very upset
1:16:58
Speaker 3: if that in fact were the case. But we'll see
1:16:59
Speaker 3: what happens. We don't know. Everybody's hypothesizing. In the meantime.
1:17:04
Speaker 3: Seven ten wore the Voice of New York. This is
1:17:07
Speaker 3: Ken Risotto and from Mark on the third of three
1:17:10
Speaker 3: hours for the Mark Simone Show. For those saying, what
1:17:13
Speaker 3: do you mean it's only a two hour show, Ken, No,
1:17:16
Speaker 3: as of this week the show or last week, I
1:17:18
Speaker 3: should say, the show became three hours. Mark is now
1:17:21
Speaker 3: on nine to noon Monday through Friday. So we ask
1:17:25
Speaker 3: you to listen. If you normally don't listen until you
1:17:28
Speaker 3: get to work, say or whatever, and you listen to
1:17:31
Speaker 3: normally at ten. You can now tune in starting at
1:17:33
Speaker 3: nine Monday through Friday, nine to noon the Mark Simone
1:17:36
Speaker 3: Show here at seven to ten WR. We also talked
1:17:40
Speaker 3: a little bit about Kathy Hokel, the Governor of New York,
1:17:44
Speaker 3: and we talked about Bruce Blakeman. Now, today the President
1:17:50
Speaker 3: is supposed to come to Nassau County and he will
1:17:54
Speaker 3: address law enforcement and praise them and talk to Bruce Blakemanen.
1:18:00
Speaker 3: It's to garner support for Bruce Blakeman. There have been
1:18:03
Speaker 3: several polls showing him growing in popularity quite a bit. Now,
1:18:07
Speaker 3: mind you, down here in southern New York State, Blakeman
1:18:11
Speaker 3: is pretty much known. But you go north of say, Poughkeepsie,
1:18:14
Speaker 3: people have no idea. And there's a lot of New
1:18:16
Speaker 3: York State north of Poughkeepsie. We all tend to be
1:18:19
Speaker 3: very New York City centric when it comes to New
1:18:21
Speaker 3: York State. I used to work in Albany, I used
1:18:24
Speaker 3: to work in Poughkeepsie at radio stations there, and I
1:18:27
Speaker 3: worked in Elmira at a TV station, the NBC station there,
1:18:32
Speaker 3: And there is a lot of New York out there,
1:18:34
Speaker 3: and people don't know from up there. Many I knew
1:18:37
Speaker 3: people who were in Elmira their whole lives, who used
1:18:40
Speaker 3: to drive to Philadelphia but never never in their lives
1:18:43
Speaker 3: went to New York. That's an interesting little fun fact.
1:18:46
Speaker 3: If you are in Elmira, New York, it is shorter
1:18:49
Speaker 3: to drive to Philadelphia than it is to drive to
1:18:52
Speaker 3: New York City. Think about that. That's weird, and you're like,
1:18:54
Speaker 3: how because I eighty is directly under you can get
1:18:57
Speaker 3: right onto I eighty and then got what is it
1:19:00
Speaker 3: eighty one? I'm sorry, net eighty eighty one. Take eighty
1:19:02
Speaker 3: one straight down to Philly right and then as opposed
1:19:05
Speaker 3: to having to go east and then south to get
1:19:08
Speaker 3: into New York City. So it's actually much shorter to
1:19:11
Speaker 3: get to Philly. So the big city for many people
1:19:13
Speaker 3: in the western part of New York State, Buffalo, Elmira,
1:19:17
Speaker 3: Binghamton is to go to Philly, not New York City.
1:19:20
Speaker 3: So a lot of folks don't know of the players
1:19:23
Speaker 3: in the New York area. But bottom line, as people
1:19:27
Speaker 3: upstate hear more and more about Bruce Blakeman, they like
1:19:30
Speaker 3: him because Upstaters tend to be a little more conservative
1:19:33
Speaker 3: or at least a little more open minded than many
1:19:36
Speaker 3: in the City who tend to be very hardcore blue,
1:19:39
Speaker 3: and New York is divided. You come down to the
1:19:42
Speaker 3: Westchester border from Westchester South, boom, you have hardcore liberals
1:19:46
Speaker 3: Westchester North, it tends to be very purple to purple red.
1:19:51
Speaker 3: So if Bruce Blakeman's voice is heard upstate, I think
1:19:53
Speaker 3: he has a very good shot. And what the polls
1:19:56
Speaker 3: have shown originally, Blakeman was twenty some odd points behind
1:20:00
Speaker 3: Kathy Hokel. Oh, she of the bad buck teeth. Ken,
1:20:04
Speaker 3: she doesn't have buck teeth. Those are just horribly cheap caps. Correct, exactly.
1:20:09
Speaker 3: Sorry I've been saying and I'm so mean I've been
1:20:11
Speaker 3: saying it. If you go back and look at video
1:20:12
Speaker 3: of Kathy Hokel when she was lieutenant governor. Okay, yes,
1:20:15
Speaker 3: and people forgot it was Andrew Cuomo who was governor
1:20:20
Speaker 3: who brought her on as lieutenant governor and when she
1:20:23
Speaker 3: was lieutenant governor. Go look at YouTube videos of her
1:20:26
Speaker 3: teeth back then and listen to the way she spoke
1:20:29
Speaker 3: when she had her own teeth as opposed to the
1:20:32
Speaker 3: very bad caps. Now, next time you have a dentist
1:20:35
Speaker 3: who tries to sell you on the neers, you ask
1:20:38
Speaker 3: will they look like Kathy Hokeles. And if the dentist says,
1:20:41
Speaker 3: well they might, you go to another dentist just saying
1:20:45
Speaker 3: I know that's mean, Ken. You shouldn't. You shouldn't make
1:20:48
Speaker 3: ad hominem attacks and pick on people's looks. When you
1:20:52
Speaker 3: do it to yourself and it turns out this way,
1:20:54
Speaker 3: then I think your fair game. It is what it is.
1:20:56
Speaker 3: Politics is a dirty business. But anyway, the polls initially
1:21:00
Speaker 3: had Bruce Blakeman twenty five points behind. Now there's a
1:21:05
Speaker 3: poll that shows him barely ten points behind. We still
1:21:08
Speaker 3: have a couple of months before the election, and there
1:21:11
Speaker 3: was a poll a few weeks ago showing him just
1:21:13
Speaker 3: four points behind. So now, considering Kathy Hokeel is well
1:21:18
Speaker 3: known throughout the state, she should be way ahead. But
1:21:22
Speaker 3: what this says is as an incumbent that her likability
1:21:27
Speaker 3: isn't all there. She has people on the right who
1:21:29
Speaker 3: certainly don't like her, and there are people on the left.
1:21:32
Speaker 3: Because the Democrats have really become divided, the super hardcore
1:21:36
Speaker 3: left mom Damides and then the more mainstream Democrats, well,
1:21:40
Speaker 3: the more mainstream Democrats who are upstate who know Kathy
1:21:43
Speaker 3: Hokeel don't really like her. The hardcore left wing Democrats
1:21:47
Speaker 3: in New York City don't think she's liberal enough, and
1:21:50
Speaker 3: of course the Republicans want her out of office. Does
1:21:52
Speaker 3: Bruce Blakeman have a shot at this point, I'd say
1:21:55
Speaker 3: it's a tiny one, but he does have a shot.
1:21:58
Speaker 3: So President Trump is coming today and he will be
1:22:00
Speaker 3: speaking to the police in Nassau County, but he will
1:22:04
Speaker 3: be there ostensibly on behalf of Bruce Blakeman. Here's Blakeman
1:22:07
Speaker 3: talking about the President.
1:22:08
Speaker 9: The President has indicated an interest in coming to honor
1:22:12
Speaker 9: the people of law enforcement here in Nassau County. Nasau
1:22:15
Speaker 9: County backs the blue.
1:22:17
Speaker 3: That's right, they do. And Bruce also talked about how
1:22:21
Speaker 3: members of the police in Nassau County interact with ICE.
1:22:26
Speaker 3: In a recent case, because the governor now wants absolutely
1:22:29
Speaker 3: no interaction between local police and ICE agents.
1:22:33
Speaker 9: We did it without raiding one church, one school, one business,
1:22:37
Speaker 9: one daycare center.
1:22:39
Speaker 3: It was very orderly. Yeah, that's what happens when police
1:22:42
Speaker 3: cooperate with ICE. If you want to have confrontation where
1:22:46
Speaker 3: there are bullets flying and cars running into people, then
1:22:50
Speaker 3: you just order the police in New York State to
1:22:53
Speaker 3: have no interaction with ICE and that will happen. But
1:22:57
Speaker 3: when you allow police to cooperate with federal agents ICE agents,
1:23:01
Speaker 3: it prevents all that. If a person is already in
1:23:04
Speaker 3: a state court or a county court for committing a crime,
1:23:07
Speaker 3: and you allow ICE agents in, because those individuals are
1:23:10
Speaker 3: illegal aliens, ICE agents can then get them as they're
1:23:14
Speaker 3: coming out of court. Within the building, there won't be
1:23:16
Speaker 3: any issue because they'll already be in cuffs from the
1:23:18
Speaker 3: trial and then they can be escorted out. But when
1:23:21
Speaker 3: you keep ICE agents from coming into federal I mean
1:23:26
Speaker 3: county court, which, by the way, makes you wonder as
1:23:29
Speaker 3: a citizen of the United States, you're going to tell
1:23:33
Speaker 3: me that I can be discriminated against from entering a
1:23:36
Speaker 3: building that my tax dollars should pay for because I
1:23:38
Speaker 3: happen to have a federal job. That's kind of crazy
1:23:41
Speaker 3: if you think about it. So if I am an
1:23:44
Speaker 3: illegal alien who doesn't pay taxes and isn't a citizen,
1:23:48
Speaker 3: I'm allowed to walk into a county court building or
1:23:51
Speaker 3: a state court building. But if I am a federal
1:23:55
Speaker 3: agent who lives in the same county, I am not
1:23:58
Speaker 3: allowed to walk into a state court or a local
1:24:02
Speaker 3: county court. How is that even legal. Somebody's got to
1:24:05
Speaker 3: challenge that. To me, that is absolutely a violation of law.
1:24:09
Speaker 3: You can't discriminate against people, especially when you're letting illegal
1:24:13
Speaker 3: migrants into the courts. If they want to go for
1:24:16
Speaker 3: a relative, they can come in, but an ICE agent
1:24:18
Speaker 3: can't because you don't like ICE. See, this is where
1:24:21
Speaker 3: the state sanctuary states and sanctuary cities cross the line.
1:24:26
Speaker 3: In my view, you don't have to have your officers cooperate,
1:24:29
Speaker 3: but when you have them actively campaign against ICE agents,
1:24:35
Speaker 3: that's when I think you cross the line into obstruction
1:24:37
Speaker 3: with obstruction of justice, and that's where I think some
1:24:41
Speaker 3: local people have to be charged to send a message.
1:24:43
Speaker 3: What do you think about it? Eight hundred three to
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Speaker 3: two one zero seven ten eight hundred three to two
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Speaker 3: one zero seven ten. We'll take your calls. Coming up
1:24:51
Speaker 3: next here at seven ten wor.
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Speaker 1: This is the Mark Simone Show on seven ten WR
1:24:58
Speaker 1: in for Mark Today.
1:24:59
Speaker 2: Here's Ken Rosatta having.
1:25:03
Speaker 3: Known a lot of these people from working in the
1:25:04
Speaker 3: business for a lot of years. Gail King is really
1:25:07
Speaker 3: really nice people. She's a good person. I don't know
1:25:10
Speaker 3: politically that's a whole separate thing, but just as an individual,
1:25:13
Speaker 3: a few times that I have met her. She could
1:25:15
Speaker 3: not have been nicer. It is now look at that
1:25:18
Speaker 3: eleven twenty seven. We go to our busy phones. We
1:25:20
Speaker 3: say good morning to Pam and New Jersey.
1:25:24
Speaker 19: Hello, good afternoon, good morning. Still sure you know this
1:25:28
Speaker 19: home man Gione thing remind me of when I was
1:25:31
Speaker 19: a little girl watching everything going on with the Manson
1:25:35
Speaker 19: trial and all the fanatics honoring him and his killers.
1:25:42
Speaker 19: And I read an article about JC Spring, one of
1:25:45
Speaker 19: the victims' family members over twenty years later, trying to
1:25:50
Speaker 19: go to a concert and enjoyed themselves their favorite band,
1:25:54
Speaker 19: and the band came out with a T shirt honoring Manson,
1:26:00
Speaker 19: and they said, will this ever end? Will it ever
1:26:02
Speaker 19: stop being a freak show? These are killers. Manson was
1:26:07
Speaker 19: a serial killer, nothing special, nothing wonderful, a sociopath. Same
1:26:13
Speaker 19: thing Mangioni.
1:26:14
Speaker 3: The same thing with chery Guivara, same thing with Castro,
1:26:18
Speaker 3: same thing with you know you named the communist dictators.
1:26:21
Speaker 3: These people are responsible for the deaths of millions of people. Millions.
1:26:25
Speaker 3: Yet kids, you know, they think, oh, it's so cool Chiguava. Dude, No,
1:26:30
Speaker 3: he was a murder. He killed people, He lined them
1:26:32
Speaker 3: up and shot them in the head. You think that's okay,
1:26:35
Speaker 3: you know, do a little research before you embrace and
1:26:38
Speaker 3: honor these individuals. Think about it, if God forbid, it
1:26:41
Speaker 3: was your family that was murdered, you know. I worked
1:26:43
Speaker 3: with a woman I was an anchor in Miami for
1:26:46
Speaker 3: five years, big Cuban American population. I worked with a
1:26:49
Speaker 3: woman who literally received a doorknock in Cuba at her
1:26:53
Speaker 3: front door. Her mother, her father, her brother got up
1:26:56
Speaker 3: in the middle of the night. Cuban military with rifles
1:26:59
Speaker 3: pointed at her parents heads, kidnapped the father took him
1:27:02
Speaker 3: to the other side of the island because he was
1:27:03
Speaker 3: a doctor and they needed doctors on the other side
1:27:06
Speaker 3: of the island. At Santiago de Cuba, just because they
1:27:09
Speaker 3: said so, they commandeered the house and turned it into
1:27:12
Speaker 3: a communist headquarters and took my friend Iliana, her brother
1:27:16
Speaker 3: and mother and threw them into an apartment with three
1:27:19
Speaker 3: other families to share. Because that's communists. They believe that
1:27:24
Speaker 3: you don't deserve. They want to punish success and wealth.
1:27:27
Speaker 3: So that's what they had to endure, living in an
1:27:29
Speaker 3: apartment with like fifteen other people after living in a
1:27:32
Speaker 3: very nice house. But this is the problem with people today.
1:27:34
Speaker 3: They're absolutely brainwashed and nuts. Pam and I appreciate the
1:27:37
Speaker 3: phone call. We go to our friend Vincent in Brooklyn.
1:27:40
Speaker 3: Good morning, Vincent, Good morning ken Ken.
1:27:43
Speaker 6: I was hoping that Trump would bring this war to
1:27:45
Speaker 6: an end Memorial Day. That didn't happen because the strait
1:27:50
Speaker 6: is open, it's closed, it's open, it's closed. Then by
1:27:53
Speaker 6: fourth the July, I said, maybe I'll ap by fourth
1:27:56
Speaker 6: to July. Now I really hope he has this all
1:28:01
Speaker 6: wrapped up by Labor Day. And the reason why I
1:28:05
Speaker 6: say it it say this is it's one thing for
1:28:08
Speaker 6: a family to pay twenty dollars more to fill up
1:28:12
Speaker 6: their tak to go riding around the country for two
1:28:16
Speaker 6: weeks on vacation. It's another thing because now the refineries
1:28:21
Speaker 6: are starting to refine oil for the heating season. It's
1:28:26
Speaker 6: another thing where when the heating oil goes up, especially
1:28:30
Speaker 6: in those seven states that Trump won when he ran
1:28:34
Speaker 6: for election in twenty twenty four, when the people up
1:28:39
Speaker 6: there have to start to turn down their dermostat, When
1:28:42
Speaker 6: the people upstate New York, up in New England have
1:28:45
Speaker 6: to start to turn down their dermostat because they can't
1:28:48
Speaker 6: afford the price of fuel, oil. He is going to
1:28:52
Speaker 6: the Republicans are going to have a problem with that,
1:28:55
Speaker 6: and rightfully so, as bad as Iran is. But we
1:29:01
Speaker 6: started this war for good, bad or otherwise. And the
1:29:06
Speaker 6: people I'm saying to myself, well, if we had them
1:29:11
Speaker 6: such on the wraps, if we allegedly got we destroyed
1:29:16
Speaker 6: that nuclear reactor in the summer of twenty twenty five,
1:29:21
Speaker 6: why all of this Because we didn't, They didn't have
1:29:25
Speaker 6: it there, they took it out. That's why Donald Trump
1:29:28
Speaker 6: is going crazy trying to get this so called nuclear
1:29:32
Speaker 6: dost because in my opinion, they didn't get it the
1:29:36
Speaker 6: first time. You don't think that, I know you do.
1:29:40
Speaker 6: But Iran has spies in the white in the government community,
1:29:45
Speaker 6: who leaked information to them that they're gonna come and
1:29:49
Speaker 6: do this and that, especially since those phantom jets had
1:29:54
Speaker 6: a zig zag across our country and across Europe because
1:29:59
Speaker 6: no one was let those jets fly over there, the
1:30:02
Speaker 6: so called NATO countries, including Turkey. I really hope he
1:30:07
Speaker 6: gets this done because yesterday I'm coming home from the Parkway.
1:30:11
Speaker 6: I went down the shore. Gas is still the same
1:30:14
Speaker 6: price on the Parkway as it was two weeks ago.
1:30:19
Speaker 6: The price of oil has gone down. It's not at
1:30:21
Speaker 6: the pump can.
1:30:23
Speaker 3: Now, Vincent, I didn't say a word because I am
1:30:25
Speaker 3: nodding my head. I he is sitting across from me.
1:30:27
Speaker 3: We're both nodding our heads. There is not one word
1:30:30
Speaker 3: I disagree with you on, not one bit. And I
1:30:32
Speaker 3: think that all. I've said it a million times to myself.
1:30:36
Speaker 3: Couldn't you have waited till after the damn.
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Speaker 6: Exactly if you had this on the wraps, if you
1:30:42
Speaker 6: had satellites tracking their every movement that you could see
1:30:47
Speaker 6: when somebody went to the bedroom, Why are you doing
1:30:50
Speaker 6: Why did you do this? Now?
1:30:52
Speaker 7: Why did you do this?
1:30:53
Speaker 6: Now? I have a theory and as much as telling you,
1:30:55
Speaker 6: as a person who lived in the streets and who
1:30:59
Speaker 6: knows street law, he was out of his mind.
1:31:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I think, honestly, as much as I like.
1:31:06
Speaker 10: It, I like thinking out how to get out of it.
1:31:08
Speaker 3: Now, Well, that's the problem. I like Pete hagg Seth,
1:31:11
Speaker 3: but part of me, part of me, and I don't
1:31:13
Speaker 3: know that Pete hagg Seth had anything to do with it.
1:31:15
Speaker 3: Part of me says the petegg Seth said, we have
1:31:18
Speaker 3: the capability of doing X, Y and Z. We could
1:31:19
Speaker 3: do this, we got this. I don't know why I
1:31:21
Speaker 3: feel that I could. I could be totally off base.
1:31:24
Speaker 3: It could have been entirely based on the intelligence people,
1:31:26
Speaker 3: but something in my gut says that, and Trump fell
1:31:29
Speaker 3: for it, and I just I want to just scream
1:31:33
Speaker 3: every time I think we should have, could have, might have,
1:31:36
Speaker 3: and the fact that we did what we did when
1:31:39
Speaker 3: we did it, I think blew everything up. And I
1:31:41
Speaker 3: think we have a mess here, an absolute mess. I
1:31:44
Speaker 3: just hope to God Trump tends to know things that
1:31:46
Speaker 3: we don't know. Obviously as president, he tends to play
1:31:49
Speaker 3: chessnut checkers, and I am praying to God that he
1:31:52
Speaker 3: knows something that we don't know. Will all be pleasantly
1:31:54
Speaker 3: surprised in the in the days ahead, Vincent, I love
1:31:57
Speaker 3: talking here all the time, my friend, have a wonderful
1:31:59
Speaker 3: Weekendpreciate it.
1:32:00
Speaker 1: Bill Mark Simon Show Live from the wo R Life
1:32:04
Speaker 1: Back Studios, guest hosting from Mark Today Here's Ken Rosano.
1:32:10
Speaker 3: I had a very good morning to you. Having a
1:32:12
Speaker 3: conversation off air. Somebody just said I won't say who said,
1:32:15
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't see how you don't find Luigi
1:32:18
Speaker 3: Mangoni marginally attractive, and well, I said, maybe when sometimes
1:32:23
Speaker 3: his face looks puffed. Look, he's a killer. I don't
1:32:26
Speaker 3: find him attractive in any way. I don't like his
1:32:28
Speaker 3: personality and I don't like him. He's a killer. I know, Ken,
1:32:31
Speaker 3: he hasn't had his day in court. Ken, he may
1:32:33
Speaker 3: not be Okay, we have videotape, we have I just
1:32:38
Speaker 3: think about this. Anytime somebody says he is marginally attractive,
1:32:41
Speaker 3: I say, really, you tell that to the children of
1:32:45
Speaker 3: Brian Thompson, who who they've lost their dad. You tell
1:32:49
Speaker 3: that to Missus Thompson, who lost her husband. I don't
1:32:53
Speaker 3: find somebody who allegedly killed this individual. Whether you like
1:32:57
Speaker 3: you like healthcare people or not, has nothing to do
1:32:59
Speaker 3: with it. That's what changes it for me. So I'm sorry.
1:33:02
Speaker 3: That's just me. I don't care how pretty some people
1:33:05
Speaker 3: think the person looks. You got to look at the
1:33:07
Speaker 3: entirety of the person. Seven to ten, Woor the Voice
1:33:10
Speaker 3: of New York. This is Ken. Risotto went from Mark,
1:33:12
Speaker 3: sorry to get on that stool there for a moment
1:33:15
Speaker 3: and to preach. But I had to. It is a
1:33:18
Speaker 3: Friday morning. Mark has the day off, and ten years ago,
1:33:22
Speaker 3: if you were to call yourself a socialist. It would
1:33:26
Speaker 3: have meant kissing your chances of getting elected goodbye. With
1:33:30
Speaker 3: rare exceptions, of course, maybe for parts of San Francisco
1:33:33
Speaker 3: or Oakland, California, New York City, you know, possibly. Well,
1:33:37
Speaker 3: today there are over two hundred Democratic Socialists of America
1:33:42
Speaker 3: elected to various offices all over the country, in large
1:33:45
Speaker 3: and small communities. And what used to be a phenomenon
1:33:48
Speaker 3: experience only in those liberal urban centers is now spreading
1:33:51
Speaker 3: the cities far and wide. So the question is what
1:33:54
Speaker 3: is prompting it. Howard Limb is the secretary of the
1:33:57
Speaker 3: New York State Conservative Party. He joins us at talk
1:34:00
Speaker 3: about it. We say, good morning, Howard, morning Ken, nice
1:34:03
Speaker 3: to have you back, sir. So ten to fifteen years ago,
1:34:06
Speaker 3: a guy like Zoron Mandani would not have stood a
1:34:10
Speaker 3: chance in hell at getting elected mayor of New York.
1:34:12
Speaker 3: But here we are. So the question is what is
1:34:15
Speaker 3: causing the rise of this political movement?
1:34:19
Speaker 12: Well, I think the names have changed over the years.
1:34:25
Speaker 12: Believe it or not. The simple word liberal used to
1:34:28
Speaker 12: be the most common descriptor of Democrats, and all of
1:34:33
Speaker 12: a sudden that got a bad reputation, and now they're progressives.
1:34:38
Speaker 12: It's the same politicians, it's mostly the same policies, perhaps
1:34:42
Speaker 12: even more radical now in the case of New York
1:34:45
Speaker 12: City's socialist Democrats. Keep in mind that in New York
1:34:52
Speaker 12: City there are three million Democrats. In twenty twenty five,
1:34:57
Speaker 12: when Mandami won the weird ranked choice primary that the
1:35:03
Speaker 12: Democrats have for their nomination, he got sixteen percent of
1:35:08
Speaker 12: that of those three million Democrats because of the turn
1:35:12
Speaker 12: low turnout and the fact that he just barely on
1:35:16
Speaker 12: multiple rounds beat Andrew Cuomo. So he is and what
1:35:23
Speaker 12: he represents is the sliver of a sliver of a sliver.
1:35:27
Speaker 3: So basically, four hundred and sixty thousand votes or so
1:35:30
Speaker 3: or what got a guy in a city of eight
1:35:32
Speaker 3: and a half million people elected mayor.
1:35:35
Speaker 12: That's right. And in the Democratic primary in which there
1:35:38
Speaker 12: were three million eligible Democrats and only around a million
1:35:44
Speaker 12: of them showed up and less than half of them
1:35:47
Speaker 12: went with Mondami.
1:35:49
Speaker 3: That's amazing. It's amazing when you think about it that way.
1:35:51
Speaker 3: And that's why the whole rank choice voting thing just
1:35:53
Speaker 3: bothers me, you know, using the excuse that, well, it's
1:35:57
Speaker 3: more it's easier this way. You don't have to come
1:35:59
Speaker 3: out vote again about nonsense. There's got to be interior
1:36:03
Speaker 3: voted for it.
1:36:04
Speaker 12: Yeah, Ken, The Democratic National Committee has just promulgated a
1:36:10
Speaker 12: proposed changed to their bylaws that makes ranked choice voting
1:36:17
Speaker 12: illegal in the selection of delegates to the twenty twenty
1:36:25
Speaker 12: eight Democratic National Convention. The Democrats have seen what can
1:36:30
Speaker 12: happen when you have this convoluted, complicated, easily managed system
1:36:37
Speaker 12: called ranked choice voting, and they want to make it
1:36:39
Speaker 12: illegal within their own party.
1:36:42
Speaker 3: But it's okay to have the Mayor of New York
1:36:43
Speaker 3: elected under it. It's just ridiculous, I mean, because think
1:36:46
Speaker 3: about it. You have a number of people who will
1:36:48
Speaker 3: actually vote, say the top five in order, and then
1:36:52
Speaker 3: you'll also have a number of people in that same
1:36:53
Speaker 3: election who'll only put the first name in and they
1:36:56
Speaker 3: won't put the other five. So all of a sudden
1:36:57
Speaker 3: you get certain people who have a monstrous amount of
1:36:59
Speaker 3: vote and other people who have none because of it.
1:37:02
Speaker 7: Yeah.
1:37:03
Speaker 12: Well, the breakdown of how the ranked choice process worked
1:37:08
Speaker 12: in that primary election is out there for everyone to see.
1:37:12
Speaker 12: The Working Families Party, the Democratic Socialists, the public employee unions,
1:37:19
Speaker 12: all these different special groups that depend upon government money
1:37:25
Speaker 12: for their sustenance had come up with a plan in
1:37:28
Speaker 12: which they said, well, there are four very progressive leftist
1:37:32
Speaker 12: candidates that legitimately seemed to be as part of this field.
1:37:39
Speaker 12: We want to have a system in which they can
1:37:42
Speaker 12: vote for anyone they want to vote for among these
1:37:45
Speaker 12: four extreme leftists. But the main thing you have to
1:37:48
Speaker 12: do is not put in Cuomo's name. That system worked
1:37:53
Speaker 12: so that as we went through different counts in the
1:37:57
Speaker 12: ranked choice system, all of the left this started to
1:38:02
Speaker 12: pile their votes up for Mondambi, who was their first
1:38:05
Speaker 12: choice candidate.
1:38:07
Speaker 3: Anyway, gotcha. Just reminding everybody whom we're talking to. This
1:38:10
Speaker 3: is Howard Limb, who is the secretary of the New
1:38:12
Speaker 3: York State Conservative Party, and it's good to have him
1:38:15
Speaker 3: on here. Seven to ten wore the voice of New
1:38:18
Speaker 3: York Ken Risotto in for the great Mark Simone on
1:38:21
Speaker 3: a Friday. And the question now is will this continue
1:38:24
Speaker 3: to grow or is this kind of like the Tea
1:38:26
Speaker 3: Party was at one point? This is a kind of
1:38:29
Speaker 3: flash in the pan thing or have they peaked or
1:38:32
Speaker 3: are they still going to well?
1:38:35
Speaker 12: I think you have to see the performance in the
1:38:39
Speaker 12: elections just this week in which some of the worst
1:38:44
Speaker 12: examples of democratics socialists lost. Some of them did pretty well,
1:38:50
Speaker 12: sometimes hiding out behind the overwhelming Democratic majorities in their states,
1:39:00
Speaker 12: in some cases trying to wind back things that they've
1:39:07
Speaker 12: said in the past that made them potentially totally unelectable
1:39:12
Speaker 12: in the general election. We you know, we have to
1:39:15
Speaker 12: accept the idea that in many cases the Democrats will
1:39:18
Speaker 12: nominate people like this, But we can only hope that
1:39:22
Speaker 12: in November, when independents and Republicans are also voting, that
1:39:28
Speaker 12: these people get pushed aside.
1:39:30
Speaker 3: We can only see and we can only hope. We'll
1:39:32
Speaker 3: keep our figures crossed. But it's kind of unnerving to
1:39:35
Speaker 3: see that, you know, it starts with the smaller election
1:39:39
Speaker 3: of state Assembly position, et cetera, and then boom, before
1:39:42
Speaker 3: you know what the person is mayor. And I just
1:39:46
Speaker 3: and I said this earlier in the broadcast. It just
1:39:49
Speaker 3: drives me insane that you have so many Republicans in
1:39:53
Speaker 3: the state of New York who either A have given
1:39:55
Speaker 3: up hope or B they say, I only come out
1:39:58
Speaker 3: and vote for governor and after that I can't be bothered. Yeah, well,
1:40:03
Speaker 3: this is the problem. When you can't be bothered, you
1:40:06
Speaker 3: end up having a state Assembly and a state Senate
1:40:09
Speaker 3: that's ninety percent liberal. And so even if you do
1:40:12
Speaker 3: get a Republican governor elected, and we keep our fingers
1:40:15
Speaker 3: crossed for Bruce Blakeman, when you're dealing with the two
1:40:18
Speaker 3: houses up there that are so liberal, how could you
1:40:21
Speaker 3: get anything done?
1:40:22
Speaker 12: Well, you're right. The Sienna University poll that came out
1:40:27
Speaker 12: just a few days ago shows that even within New
1:40:30
Speaker 12: York State, which of course is generally viewed as a
1:40:33
Speaker 12: pretty blue state, the Democratic Socialist label only has a
1:40:38
Speaker 12: thirty percent favorable, while it's forty seven percent unfavorable among
1:40:44
Speaker 12: likely voters throughout the state, especially now in this in
1:40:49
Speaker 12: regional breakout, New York City is fifty percent favorable for
1:40:54
Speaker 12: Democratic Socialists, but in the suburbs it's fifty nine percent unfavorable,
1:40:59
Speaker 12: and upstate it's forty nine percent unfavorable. With I don't
1:41:04
Speaker 12: want to just keep ridling off numbers, but when you
1:41:06
Speaker 12: have a forty nine percent unfavorable upstate, you have to
1:41:10
Speaker 12: consider that the favorable and the undecideds are broken out
1:41:14
Speaker 12: in the other direction. So we really believe that Bruce,
1:41:19
Speaker 12: as you were saying, gives us a good clean chance,
1:41:23
Speaker 12: particularly since it's going to be much less likely that
1:41:27
Speaker 12: Hockel is going to be able to disguise her relationship
1:41:32
Speaker 12: with the Democratic Socialists and Mandami, since she's signed so
1:41:36
Speaker 12: many of this state laws that have allowed Mondomi to
1:41:39
Speaker 12: do to proceed with some of his worst policies.
1:41:42
Speaker 3: She knows that if she has any shot at reelection,
1:41:45
Speaker 3: she has to kiss his backside like there's no tomorrow
1:41:48
Speaker 3: and make sure that he gives her a nice, warm endorsement,
1:41:52
Speaker 3: or else she doesn't stand a chance. At this point,
1:41:55
Speaker 3: she knows that she knows that he has her in
1:41:57
Speaker 3: her back, in his back pocket. I should say, well,
1:41:59
Speaker 3: Howard Limb, secretary of the New York State Conservative Party,
1:42:02
Speaker 3: we love when you come on. Your analysis is just
1:42:04
Speaker 3: wonderful spot on. We appreciate you have a wonderful day
1:42:07
Speaker 3: and a great weekend you too, Thank you, sir. It
1:42:11
Speaker 3: is Ken rosotowin from Mark on your Friday seven ten WR.
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Speaker 3: When we come back, we will take more of your calls.
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1:42:25
Speaker 1: Now more of the Mark Simone show on seven ten WR.
1:42:29
Speaker 2: Filling in for Mark Here again is Ken Rosatto.
1:42:33
Speaker 3: And it's good to be with you out a Friday.
1:42:35
Speaker 3: We just have a couple of minutes left. Let's go
1:42:36
Speaker 3: to Russ and White Plains. Good morning, russ I.
1:42:40
Speaker 7: Ken Well, after ninety minutes, I percolated a lot of ideas.
1:42:43
Speaker 7: But I want to talk to you about the superseding
1:42:46
Speaker 7: federal rules about immigration. But I want to point out
1:42:49
Speaker 7: that Son of Sam and Charles Manson are not like
1:42:52
Speaker 7: Luigi son of Sam, who's a Coltish postal worker. Manson
1:42:58
Speaker 7: was an MK ultra government agent. Luigi is perceived as
1:43:02
Speaker 7: a revolutionary, a John Brown of healthcare reform. He's a
1:43:06
Speaker 7: crusader because we live in a carnival of corruption here
1:43:08
Speaker 7: in this country. And that interview with the judge Cabinets
1:43:11
Speaker 7: was so good, so educational. I'm just glad you didn't
1:43:14
Speaker 7: ask him. You know, what would happen if they start
1:43:16
Speaker 7: doing undergarments at Luigi. But what I want to ask
1:43:20
Speaker 7: you about is the minimum wage. You know, the tenth
1:43:24
Speaker 7: Amendment of the Constitution says that the states have the rights.
1:43:28
Speaker 7: There's no federal immigration enforcement right, and you know the
1:43:33
Speaker 7: federal minimum wage law is seven twenty five cents. Should
1:43:36
Speaker 7: an employer in Massachusetts, where the minimum wage is fifteen dollars, say, well,
1:43:40
Speaker 7: federal law supersedes I can pay him seven twenty five. No,
1:43:44
Speaker 7: because we protect our citizens. Pleasing is a state right.
1:43:48
Speaker 7: The Feds shouldn't be doing roundups and dragnets. It reminds
1:43:52
Speaker 7: me of Nazis.
1:43:53
Speaker 3: Now listen, let me back you up, Let me back
1:43:56
Speaker 3: you up. Take a break, take a breath. Your right
1:43:59
Speaker 3: of citizens, but not of non citizens. There is the
1:44:02
Speaker 3: difference when we're talking about illegal migrants. We're not talking
1:44:05
Speaker 3: about citizens. Now, there are certain constitutional protections you have
1:44:08
Speaker 3: even as a non citizen. But when it comes to
1:44:11
Speaker 3: violating the law merely by your entrance in the manner
1:44:15
Speaker 3: that you did, by not coming through a port of
1:44:17
Speaker 3: entry and then by overstaying a visa in some cases,
1:44:21
Speaker 3: and we've already given you an opportunity. We've told you
1:44:24
Speaker 3: that if you download the CBP app, if you tell
1:44:27
Speaker 3: us when you are leaving, we will get you plane tickets,
1:44:30
Speaker 3: We will pay you when you get back to your place,
1:44:32
Speaker 3: and then when you want to you can apply legally
1:44:35
Speaker 3: and come back. Well, then at that point all bets
1:44:37
Speaker 3: are off. If you continue to ignore us, russ we
1:44:40
Speaker 3: are at a time. Unfortunately at the top of the
1:44:42
Speaker 3: hour time for news. We appreciate the call. It is
1:44:44
Speaker 3: great to be with you. Thank you so much for
1:44:46
Speaker 3: us staying with me for the hours. Mark will be
1:44:49
Speaker 3: back in the seat Monday. Thank you to Mark and
1:44:51
Speaker 3: Wor for letting me sit in today. Don't forget we
1:44:54
Speaker 3: have the wonderful Buck and Clay after the news. Have
1:44:56
Speaker 3: a great day and a great weekend. Ken Rosotto in
1:44:59
Speaker 3: for seven to ten you O. R.