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A hint at what’s ahead for TSH, NFL Trivia that Evan bombs (and Austin does well), and our interview with Dustin Baker discussing the Vikings offseason | TSH Ep. 25 · The Skol Hop

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  fans, welcome into another episode of The School Hop.
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  I'm Evan. And I'm Austin.
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  We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa.
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  We like drinking beer, and we like talking about the Vikings.
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  We do school. And you brought the beer
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  tonight, my friend. I did.
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  I did. So I brought one that I'm very
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  fond of. And if you checked out our
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  TikTok reviewing of this beer, our first taste, you'll know our
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  initial thoughts. But we have from a local
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  brewery, 5 Cities, 5 Cities Brewing.
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  They're good Boy IPA. The can is very colorful, lots
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  of happy looking good boys, good puppy dogs on the can, And yeah,
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  I like it a lot. Evan, what are you thinking
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  after the first few sips? I like this.
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  It's good. It's it's just a straight
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  shooter to me. It's it's not trying to hide
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  anything, just a solid right down the middle IPA.
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  Yeah, that's great. I like to think if you like Ipas
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  and you just kind of want like a beer, like sometimes you can
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  describe like, you know, a Bud Light or a Coors Light or
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  whatever. It's just like a beer if you're
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  just in the mood for a beer. But if you like Ipas and you're
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  just in the mood for just an IPA, like a good salad, not
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  trying to do too much, this definitely fits that category
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  for me. It sure does.
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  Yeah, it's just a solid IPA, yeah.
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  So yeah, we'll be sipping on this as we go.
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  And yeah, I'm excited. We got to, we got to pay the
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  bills quick. Yeah.
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  So we'll take care of that. Today's episode brought to you
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  discount deals or anything like that.
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  Frankly, their prices are pretty good enough.
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  I don't know if you need a specific discount deal, but I
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  Big Top happy, and it would make us happy to know that we
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  connected those dots. Absolutely.
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  And they're good. I mean, I'm, I'm a customer, so
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  yeah. It's good stuff.
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  Coming back to the beer for a minute, we just, like yesterday,
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  nailed down some plans. Yeah.
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  What are those plans? We've had, we've had the idea of
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  these plans forever, like ever since we said hey, we should do
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  a a podcast where we talk about the Vikings and we drink Iowa
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  beer. Like, almost the next sentence
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  was oh, and we should eventually brew our own Iowa beer and we're
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  gonna do it. That's what these plans are.
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  So it's not going to be like a a partnership with some big or
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  established brewery or anything like that.
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  Though that would be amazing down the line someday.
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  Shout out any Iowa brewery that would love to brew the Skull Hot
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  beer. Friend of the show Forest who is
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  He probably technically is under the category of like amateur
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  home Brewer if you were going to give him a label, but his beer
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  is fantastic. I've every single beer of his
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  that he's brewed that I've had has been phenomenal.
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  And that's not just blowing smoke.
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  He has whipped up what I think sounds like the perfect Skull
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  Hop beer recipe. Yeah, I put my eyes on the
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  recipe when he sent it to us and I replied back like I don't
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  understand even 25% of what is in that beer recipe.
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  I have 0 experience brewing, but it does sound amazing and I'm
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  super excited and I'm super excited to document it and share
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  it with. Absolutely, Yeah.
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  So keep your eyes peeled. I don't know, probably within
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  the next month or so we'll start having content put out for for
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  the creation of this beer. I I was gonna kind of describe
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  what it'll be, but I think we can kind of hold that close to
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  the close to the vest. Here.
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  We'll keep that. We'll keep that right here until
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  we're ready to share the Skull Hat beer.
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  Yeah, with everybody. Yeah, so we will have the recipe
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  that that forest has made us. And without trying it, I know it
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  sounds delicious. I know we're gonna love it.
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  So who knows, Maybe if a a big Iowa brewery wants to brew a
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  collaboration beer and not even a collab, because the only thing
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  we'd be bringing to the table is the recipe.
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  Yeah, maybe in the future. But for now, we're gonna we're
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  gonna brew it in Iowa. That's gonna be fun.
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  Yep. And then we can drink it on the
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  podcast. It's gonna be awesome.
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  I can't wait. I'm excited.
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  Yeah. All right, well, we've we've
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  decided to kind of take a little bit of a sidestep from what
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  we've been doing. You know, we've typically been
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  just kind of recapping the previous week looking ahead to
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  the games that are coming up. And you know, our Vikings season
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  ended a handful of weeks ago now, unfortunately, and we're
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  headed into Pro Bowl week this week.
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  And if you haven't been paying attention, the Super Bowl will
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  feature the Chiefs and the 49ers.
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  So we're not Chiefs or 49ers fans, really.
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  We don't have a lot to talk about that way, although we will
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  have something later on. Yeah, featuring some
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  conversation around that in addition to some Viking stuff.
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  You want to preview that quick. Yeah, well, we had official
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  friend of the show, Dustin Baker came on for the second time on
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  the school hop. So yeah, we kind of ran down the
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  OR, we will kind of run down the the championship games over this
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  past weekend and then some of the future big hit decisions for
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  the Vikings. And yeah, I mean it's pre
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  recorded. I had a lot of fun with that
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  conversation. So yeah, hopefully you guys
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  stick around for the second-half of the school.
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  Hop today and listen to that. And if you don't already, please
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  follow Dustin Baker. Follow us all his content, check
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  him out on Twitter. X, whatever you want to call it.
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  He's a he's a great Vikings. He he tweets out a lot of
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  awesome stats and puts out a lot of awesome NFL and Vikings
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  content. He's really level headed.
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  I mean he he objectively takes a look at everything and gives a
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  realistic picture. A lot of people, including
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  myself, sometimes, you know, we get a little worked up, we get a
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  little emotional. I drink the purple.
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  Kool-aid about our team, and he's definitely a Vikings fan.
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  Oh, absolutely. But he takes the good with the
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  bad. He weighs it all.
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  And yeah, I've really come to trust his voice.
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  And any any time I see anything that he's written on Twitter or
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  Vikings territory or anything like that, I I really trust it.
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  And I I really take it to heart. So it was it was fun to
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  interview him again for a second time and hopefully we get to do
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  it again soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I'd love to have him on as much as possible.
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  Yeah. So we'll have that content for
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  you in just a little bit, but we wanted to add a little bit of
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  extra content here before we jump in.
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  And before we move on, I do wanna talk.
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  There is a little bit of Vikings talkers around the Pro Bowl.
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  Initial Pro Bowl vote ease People who were voted into the
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  Pro Bowl Vikings just had two Danielle Hunter and Andrew
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  Depala, which is awesome, but only have two is kind of a
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  bummer. But because the Niners advance
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  to the Pro or the Super Bowl, their Pro Bowl fullback will not
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  be able to participate in the games.
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  So yeah, The Juice. So Vikings fullback CJ Hamm.
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  CJ Hamm he, yeah, you love him so much he's he's going to his
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  second Pro Bowl. And for him, it's a bummer that
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  he was, you know, the first alternate.
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  But it's great that he gets the opportunity to go there again.
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  And it's still He gets to be honored with that Pro Bowl
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  honor, which is really cool. And there are probably a dozen
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  more Vikings that deserve that honor, even though our season
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  was more or less a bust. Yeah, gosh, I don't know.
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  We, we we invest a lot into this.
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  And especially now that we're talking about it on a podcast,
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  it's just makes it even more. Yeah, you just, you just want
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  that for those guys. Absolutely.
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  We spend a lot of time talking about it and that's nothing
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  compared to the blood, sweat and tears they put in.
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  Oh yeah, playing the actual games that we enjoy watching.
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  So yeah, you hope for more of that and you're a little
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  disappointed when 2/3 of those guys are the only ones that get
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  to embrace that. So, but we'll still be cheering
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  them on in the Pro Bowl. Well, the Pro Bowl games, they
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  don't even play the game anymore.
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  Yeah, it's it's more or less just an honor.
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  And yeah, I don't know, I we could talk about this later on,
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  but I I think the NFL is going to have to do something about
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  that game in particular. Yeah, they've they've tried a
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  lot of things recently and. Yeah, this is the second or
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  third year they haven't actually played a game.
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  Just do flag football. And then that's what they do.
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  And all the skill challenges, yeah.
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  So it's just like, I don't know. Seems like kind of a throwaway.
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  I don't know. Even 10 years ago, they were
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  still playing the game. Yeah, maybe with slightly
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  altered rules and quarterbacks with different colored jerseys
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  or whatever to try and avoid injuring people, but.
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  There's that one year they didn't specify NFC or AFC.
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  It was just like, you're a Pro Bowler.
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  And then the celebrity coaches had like a draft.
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  That was interesting, yeah. Hey, I I like when they tried
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  different and interesting things.
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  I'm definitely on board with trying different things.
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  I just don't think they've found the new solution yet.
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  And I think they need to keep trying until they land on
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  something. I mean, yeah, the other leagues,
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  the other professional sports leagues, don't really have much
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  room to talk that way. I mean, pro baseball maybe is
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  the closest to an actual game and that.
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  Actually determines something. It kind of means, yeah, it kind
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  of determines who gets home field advantage.
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  In the World Series? I think so.
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  Or at least it used to. I don't know if it does anymore.
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  I don't follow baseball as closely.
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  Yeah, neither do. I I know the NBA All Star game
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  has definitely diminished in terms of its quality and I know
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  nothing about hockey. So I Oh yeah, can't speak to the
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  NHL All Star game, but. I think in hockey there is a
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  baseball they like mandate at least one player from each team
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  has to be in, which I don't. I don't love that idea.
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  But yeah, I mean, you're right. I think the NFL has not found
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  like the the secret sauce when it comes to the perfect solution
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  for the Pro Bowl because you want to have some event.
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  I mean, especially when you're talking, the NFL probably makes
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  some revenue off of this. So you want to have some like
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  physical event and not just like?
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  Here's a list of the the best team, but right I don't know.
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  Yeah, yeah, we'll see what happens.
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  And regardless, I'll probably TuneIn for a little bit.
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  Yeah, I always do kind of catch some of the events.
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  It'll be fun. I am going to you and I
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  basketball game this. Weekend.
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  Yeah, yeah. Nice.
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  So I'll be I'll be a little preoccupied on Saturday, but
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  Sunday, Sunday. Sunday, Sunday.
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  Sunday. All right.
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  Well, we mentioned this a little bit ago and then we kind of
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  digressed a little bit, but we decided we were gonna just take
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  a step away from talking about the routine Vikings week in,
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  week out stuff and you had the idea to do some trivia.
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  Yeah, I think it could be, could be cool.
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  I think it will be cool. Yeah, not could, will.
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  So we've got a couple of different categories here and
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  we're just gonna quiz each other based on these categories.
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  Sounds good. I think you've got 2 for me.
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  I've got one for you. Yep.
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  So we'll see how this goes. Cool.
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  So I'll start. OK.
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  I forget which category I was doing then.
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  Oh no, Am I doing? Let's start with if I'm gonna
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  start and quiz you, Yeah, I'll start with Madden cover
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  athletes. Oh, OK, like all of them.
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  How about let's do from 2000 until now?
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  OK, so like when they when they started actually having players
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  and not just like Madden every year, Sure.
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  Yeah, I think that's 'cause, I mean I'll we're gonna time this,
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  so I'll wait until you time it, but I think when they did the
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  like first one of the first players, it was like in the year
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  2000, so. All right, I gotta kind of get
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  my. Get your bearings.
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  Get my bearings here. Do you need a pen or something?
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  I might try to go in order. I have bought every Madden since
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  at least 2003. That's why I think this is a
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  good category for you. Yeah, let me get a pen.
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  Hang on. I've got one.
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  All right. Sweet Doo Doo.
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  Oh, microphone. Oh, no, that's OK.
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  We might cut this out. Never cut it out.
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  No edits. No edits, we don't edit around
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  here. All right.
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  Are you ready? Are you going to give me a time
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  limit or just time me 5 minutes? 5 minutes.
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  Oof. Ready.
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  All right. You think you can do it in five?
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  I think. I think I might be able to do it
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  in one, but I don't want to be cocky, so I'll take all 5. 4
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  minutes Oh. All right, all right.
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  Ready. Set.
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  Go All right. Most recently, Madden 24, we
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  have Josh Allen. Yep, 23.
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  Oh man. Madden 23 was John Madden
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  himself? Yeah.
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  Yeah 'cause it was an honor of him passing 22.
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  I believe there were two. Was it was it Mahomes and Brady?
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  Yep. All right, 21.
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  Was that Lamar Jackson? OK, Madden 2020.
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  Oh man, that wasn't Brady, was it?
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  It's a repeat. Was it Mahomes?
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  Yes. OK, Madden 19.
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  I want to say that was Madden 19.
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  I know. Gronk was in there.
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  Gronk was 17 I believe. Right.
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  Yep. Gronk was 17.
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  OK, You skipped 19 and 18. Yeah, so.
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  We've got oh, Antonio Brown was. Brown was in there too.
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  Was he 19? He was 19.
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  OK, so I've got everything from 24 to 19 and I need Madden 18.
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  Well oh man, I was so confident in all of this.
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  OK, we'll we'll go from the. I think Eddie George was mad in
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  2000. 01 But I'll give it to you, OK?
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  OK. And then you got Dante
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  Culpepper. Yeah, yeah.
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  Do the role. Yeah.
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  And that was O2. So O3 was Marshall Faulk.
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  That was my first edition of Madden.
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  Then he had Michael Vick. He broke video games.
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  You're about to take a drink of your beer.
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  And I was Madden O five. Was Ray Lewis himself O six?
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  Was Donovan McNabb O 70? Sean Alexander?
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  Seahawks running back Madden O eight.
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  Oh man, Madden O eight. Was that Titans quarterback
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  Young? Yep, Vince Young.
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  Vince Young, There you go, O nine was farve.
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  I remember that 'cause they initially set it out as in his
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  Packer uniform, and then they'd like released a new cover as a
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  jet. Of course.
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  Yep, 'cause that was pre, pre Vikings.
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  Yeah, pre Vikings. So Madden 10, I believe that was
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  another dual year. Was that Larry Fitzgerald and
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  Troy Palamalu? Correct.
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  All right, Madden 11, which I think they renamed to Madden 25
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  'cause it was the 25th year. Or was that Madden 12?
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  Not quite. Nope all.
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  Right, Madden 11. Oh man, I don't remember.
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  But Madden 12, I know, was Barry Sanders.
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  No, no, Madden 12 was not Barry Sanders.
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  This is the first one you've gotten wrong.
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  You're doing pretty well. I know you're you got a minute
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  left here out of. Four.
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  Wow. Okay.
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  So I'll just tell you Madden 11, Madden 12, Madden 13 and then
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  what would have been Madden 14 was 25.
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  OK, Madden 14, which is actually Madden 25.
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  That was Barry Sanders Slash Adrian Peterson.
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  And yes, because they put two different versions out for the
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  old Jen and the new Gen. consoles.
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  Calvin Johnson was in there. Was he Madden 12?
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  close. Oh, Calvin Johnson was for sure
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  one of them. Madden 11 Madden 1313.
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  All right. Yeah.
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  I would never get Madden 12. Oh, Madden 12 was Peyton Hillis?
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  Yeah, yeah, the Browns running back.
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  Never in a million. Years when I got that.
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  One I remember that was the year they did a fan vote.
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  And I think technically Michael Vick won the fan vote because oh
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  geez. That scared the crap out of me.
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  Well, I OK, I didn't get it all in there and we can talk about
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  that. But to to continue my thought,
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  they did a fan vote and Michael Vick I'm pretty sure won that
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  fan vote because that was his first year back.
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  He was electric with the Eagles and people loved him.
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  He was a fan favorite, but there was still that that stink on him
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  of like the the whole, you know, dog fighting stuff.
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  So I think I've always thought Madden kind of rigged it for
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  Peyton Hillis. All right, so which ones did I
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  miss? So right before Peyton Hillis,
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  Madden 11 was Drew Brees. Oh yeah, I wouldn't have gotten
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  that. And then right after the 25th
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  year anniversary, the double feature with Sanders and
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  Peterson Madden 15 was Richard Sherman.
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  Oh yeah, I wouldn't have gotten that either.
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  Madden 16 was Odell. Yep.
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  OK, Junior. And then you got 17 with Gronk
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  and then you didn't get 18. That was Brady again.
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  OK, Tom Brady. So Brady's been on.
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  I mean, he was dual with Mahomes and what, 22?
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  But so, yeah, Brady's been on twice.
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  You only missed 4, about 27. I'm happy with that.
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  I can. I can live with that.
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  It's not perfect. But I would have gotten.
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  Five, the the amount of hours I have spent playing Madden is
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  it's over 2000 hours, I think in my lifetime.
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  Because I've been playing since, what, third grade?
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  Consistently. Almost every day, yeah.
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  They say it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert.
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  You're well on your way. Oh.
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  My goodness, yeah, I'm an expert Madden.
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  I've never done a tournament. I should I should sign it up for
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  a tournament? I just remember playing with you
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  in college and getting so mad every time you beat me because I
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  didn't grow up playing video games, and then you're just
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  destroying me. Do you remember the one time we
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  were playing in college? We were like mid game.
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  I don't remember which team I was, probably the Vikings.
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  I don't know why I would have been anything different, but you
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  were the Patriots and. Why would I be the Patriots?
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  I don't know, 'cause you were the Vikings, and I think at the
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  time Randy Moss was on the Patriots and you went to the
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  bathroom or something. And then while you were gone, me
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  and the other guys that were in there, we swapped out your
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  quarterback for the punter and you didn't notice.
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  And that's a story that's only funny to me and you know, the
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  couple other guys that were there.
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  But it was, it was hilarious. And you're getting so mad.
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  Like why can't I complete a? Pass.
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  Is this the first time they've ever told me about I'm?
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  Sure, I told. I'm sure.
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  I told you right then. I don't know why I wouldn't have
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  'cause we would have laughed about it right then.
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  I don't remember that, but you're.
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  Talking, I mean what, over 10 years ago?
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  Now, yeah. Good times though.
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  Yeah, good times. It was a lot of fun.
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  All right, What's my category? OK.
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  So I will. I think we should give you 4
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  minutes as well, and I can. Time that out over here.
• 22:01
  I'm gonna not scare the pants off of me.
• 22:05
  This time we're gonna clip that one out.
• 22:09
  That was a classic moment. Now we Yeah, clip it out, as in
• 22:12
  like, show it to the masses and make sure everybody sees it.
• 22:15
  The next viral tiktok. All right, so the question I
• 22:20
  have for you is non NFL quarterback or non quarterback
• 22:27
  NFLMVPS? Let me repeat that.
• 22:30
  Non quarterback NFLMVPS since the year 2000.
• 22:35
  All right. You want my pen?
• 22:39
  The number is so few that I think I can visually see it.
• 22:43
  Can I get the number before? Do you want me to tell you how
• 22:46
  many there were? Yeah.
• 22:46
  OK, so. Since 2000.
• 22:48
  There are four of them. OK Oh.
• 22:52
  Crap. And that actually makes it
• 22:54
  harder, really. OK, I could tell you the
• 22:58
  positions, but I don't think I want to.
• 23:01
  We'll see. We'll see if you need any help
• 23:03
  because I have years, teams and positions.
• 23:08
  OK, So we'll see. I think if you need some nudging
• 23:11
  we can we can play around with that.
• 23:12
  So whenever you're ready, I will hit start on this four minute
• 23:17
  timer. All right, I'm ready.
• 23:19
  OK and go. Well, I know one of them for
• 23:23
  sure is Adrian Peterson. Oh, yeah, 2012.
• 23:25
  Yeah, There you go. So that's one of four.
• 23:28
  Yep. I was gonna say Deon Sanders,
• 23:31
  but he was prior to 2000, right? Was he?
• 23:35
  Was he ever an MVP? Dion like, like prime time?
• 23:39
  Yeah. No, he was not ever an NFLMVP.
• 23:43
  That's surprising. There was a different Sanders,
• 23:45
  who was an NFLMVP but not Dion. Barry Sanders.
• 23:48
  Yeah, but he's also not on this list of since 2000.
• 23:52
  He was earlier than that. OK, so you have Adrian Peterson.
• 23:57
  Yep. I want to say there was a
• 24:02
  defensive back. Am I getting close?
• 24:09
  No, you're not. You're not close, so no
• 24:11
  defensive. Directs.
• 24:12
  They're all offensive players. All offensive players, OK?
• 24:16
  Odell Beckham? Junior.
• 24:18
  No, I told you I was gonna be bad at this.
• 24:22
  You can do this, man. I've.
• 24:24
  Forewarned you. You can do this.
• 24:32
  Wide receiver, Do we have any wide receivers on the list?
• 24:34
  I don't think I can answer that. I'm gonna answer that.
• 24:36
  No, no wide receivers. No wide receivers on the list.
• 24:38
  Is there another running back? There might be.
• 24:41
  There might. Well, Christian McCaffrey could
• 24:45
  win it this year, I mean. He could, but I don't think he
• 24:47
  will. Maybe not 2 1/2 minutes left.
• 24:49
  All right. Need the music.
• 24:53
  We need the intense music. Here, we'll put something under
• 24:56
  this later. Yeah, we can edit that in, she
• 24:58
  said. And.
• 25:01
  Alright, 2 minutes, 15 seconds left.
• 25:03
  You can do this. You're wasting time on drinking
• 25:05
  beer. That's not wasting.
• 25:07
  You have Adrian Peterson in 2012.
• 25:09
  All of them are prior to that. Prior to 2012, yes.
• 25:15
  OK. And obviously we know 2000 or
• 25:19
  later. So between 2000 and 2011.
• 25:23
  And I'll give you this hint. OK, they're all the same
• 25:25
  position. So they have to be running
• 25:29
  backs. Gosh, minute 45, That's.
• 25:34
  Still hard like, I don't know. You've you've heard of all of
• 25:39
  them. I know for sure.
• 25:40
  I have said one of their names already this episode.
• 25:44
  Two of their names. I'm not gonna do this.
• 25:50
  They were. They were Madden cover.
• 25:51
  Athletes set up for failure. You can do this, Evan.
• 25:55
  You can Madden cover athletes. OK Oh, you're cheating now.
• 26:02
  It's not cheating 15. I'm using my resources.
• 26:08
  Sean Alexander. All right, there you go.
• 26:10
  Sean Alexander in 2005, Seahawks running back.
• 26:15
  So you got two of them. Adrian Pearson, Sean Alexander.
• 26:17
  Marshall Faulk. Marshall Faulk in 2000 for Saint
• 26:20
  Louis. You got one more, You got one
• 26:24
  more. Can you do this?
• 26:24
  It's got to be Eddie George. No, it was not Eddie George.
• 26:27
  No, this name I don't think we've said yet.
• 26:32
  You got the two of the names that I've said.
• 26:35
  Falk, 40 seconds. This guy took a very famous free
• 26:42
  agent visit to the Vikings. Very.
• 26:45
  Famous. Free agent but was not signed.
• 26:49
  Ended up playing for The Jets at the end of his career and I
• 26:56
  believe he only played for two teams.
• 27:01
  All right, 15 seconds left he played for the Chargers.
• 27:05
  Ladainian, Tom, There it is. You got it with only a lot of
• 27:08
  help with. Only a lot of help.
• 27:11
  Yeah, trivia is not my thing. That's all right, That.
• 27:14
  Was fun, at least NFL trivia. And don't get scared.
• 27:20
  Oh, it just vibrated on my wrist.
• 27:22
  OK. That scared me.
• 27:23
  Still, though. All right, well, you're the
• 27:26
  trivia master. Don't I?
• 27:28
  And I. Didn't even fully get the last
• 27:30
  question right. Well, you did way better than I
• 27:32
  did. If this were a class.
• 27:34
  You passed with an A and I got maybe AD minus all right.
• 27:38
  We got one more, right? Yeah.
• 27:40
  So we're looking at most recent Pro Bowl quarterback for for
• 27:50
  every team. Well, we could do for every team
• 27:54
  or we could just go more recent. It's up to you.
• 27:57
  Kind of like for every team. All right, let's do it.
• 28:00
  Because I thought that was the original question, wasn't?
• 28:02
  It is the, it is the original question.
• 28:04
  I think it would be harder for me to like sort through like
• 28:08
  2000 till now, all right. It's easier to go through all 32
• 28:12
  teams. I'm going to try to go by
• 28:14
  division, OK? So I'll tell you like, OK for
• 28:16
  this team, blah, blah, blah. So how much time are you going
• 28:19
  to give me? That's 3232.
• 28:21
  Teams, let's do 6 minutes. OK?
• 28:24
  I'm going to turn my ringer down so I don't Juke myself out of my
• 28:27
  shorts this time. We almost had some beer coming
• 28:30
  out of my nose right there. I almost had some beer coming
• 28:35
  out of my mouth. You were mid sip, weren't you?
• 28:38
  Yeah, that was that was alarming.
• 28:41
  That's that's All right. All right, here we go. 6 minutes
• 28:48
  on the clock. Most recent Pro Bowl
• 28:50
  quarterback. All 32 teams.
• 28:53
  OK, ready, Go. All right, so NFC North for the
• 28:57
  Vikings. Kirky Kirk?
• 28:59
  Yep. For the Bears.
• 29:02
  Mitch Trubisky? Yep.
• 29:04
  For the Lions. Gotta be Jared Goff.
• 29:07
  Oh, hang on, my pen's running out of ink.
• 29:09
  Oh no. Mitch Kirk Lions.
• 29:13
  Jerry Goff? No.
• 29:14
  Oh. Stafford then.
• 29:15
  Interesting. I thought he would have made it
• 29:17
  for the Packers at AT. That's Rogers for sure.
• 29:20
  OK, NFC South. For the Buccaneers.
• 29:27
  That's gotta be. Well, did Baker make it this
• 29:29
  year? I think he was voted in this
• 29:33
  year. But this list doesn't.
• 29:36
  Oh, Yep. OK.
• 29:37
  We'll give you that if. It wasn't Baker.
• 29:39
  It had to be Brady. OK, so Buccaneers.
• 29:41
  We'll give you Baker. Saints It's gotta be Drew Brees.
• 29:45
  Yep. Who else?
• 29:48
  NFC South Buccaneers. Saints.
• 29:50
  Falcons. Matt Ryan and Carolina and
• 29:53
  Carolina. Oh man.
• 29:56
  Carolina. Cam Newton.
• 29:57
  Yeah, you'll get this one. Yep, NFC West Niners Purdy.
• 30:03
  Did he make it this year? I think he was voted in this
• 30:05
  year. Yep.
• 30:07
  Seahawks. Geno Smith.
• 30:10
  Cardinals. Kyler, Murray, and then who else
• 30:14
  is there? Rams.
• 30:16
  Rams Oh, that's gotta be Stafford, right?
• 30:19
  You got your wires crossed, my friend.
• 30:22
  Stafford was the Lions. Yeah, but he's been with the
• 30:24
  Rams for a couple years. He's he hasn't been voted in
• 30:27
  yet. Oh, Yep.
• 30:28
  OK. All right.
• 30:30
  There's some additions at the bottom here that I'm not
• 30:32
  accommodating for. You're right, Stafford.
• 30:34
  So Stafford's actually the last Pro Bowl quarterback for the
• 30:37
  Lions and. And the Rams.
• 30:39
  Rams. Well, in that, in that sense,
• 30:42
  we'll go with the NFC East, which is Cowboys, Giants,
• 30:47
  Commanders and Philly. Right?
• 30:51
  So Cowboys, DAC, Giants. Is it Daniel Jones?
• 30:58
  It's either him or Eli Manning. It's Eli.
• 31:00
  OK, All right for the Eagles. Gotta be Hertz.
• 31:04
  He definitely made it last year. And then for another dual team,
• 31:09
  quarterback Kirk made it for the then Redskins and I think that's
• 31:16
  all of the NFC. So AFC.
• 31:19
  We're going AFC North. So for the Steelers, it would be
• 31:23
  Big Ben For the Browns. Oh man, oh man, I don't know.
• 31:31
  OK, I'm moving on for the Ravens.
• 31:34
  That's Lamar. Lamar Jackson.
• 31:36
  And then who else is there in the AFC North?
• 31:45
  Browns, Steelers, Ravens. Bengals.
• 31:49
  Bengals. That's Joe Burrow.
• 31:51
  OK, AFC S might need some help with this.
• 31:54
  This is Jacksonville, Andy Houston, And who else?
• 32:02
  AFC S would be. Jacksonville It was Trevor
• 32:06
  Lawrence. No, no.
• 32:10
  Are you sure? I think he made it last year,
• 32:13
  didn't he? I don't have it here.
• 32:16
  Interesting. OK, that might not be.
• 32:17
  Official Is that Brunel then? No, OK, More recent than Mark
• 32:22
  Brunel. Interesting.
• 32:24
  OK, well anyways, moving on for the Colts.
• 32:27
  Gardner Minshew actually just made it this year for the
• 32:31
  Texans. CJ Stroud made it this year, and
• 32:35
  I'm not sure who the other team is in that division.
• 32:40
  AFC. That was the AFC S Did you say
• 32:43
  Houston? I did.
• 32:44
  That's CJ Stroud. Yes.
• 32:46
  All right. Sorry.
• 32:47
  I'm trying to keep up here. Yep, trying to.
• 32:50
  How much time do I got? 2 minutes, 2 minutes left.
• 32:52
  OK. So AFCAFCN SE AFC East.
• 33:01
  So for New England, that would have been Tom Brady, Mac Jones.
• 33:08
  He did make it. OK, for the Dolphins, that was
• 33:11
  Tua. This year.
• 33:12
  He made it for the Bills, Josh Allen and Dang it for The Jets.
• 33:19
  Oh man, for The Jets. That's been a minute, 'cause,
• 33:25
  yeah, was it Brett Favre? Brett Favre.
• 33:28
  OK, so then I've got one more division and another team that
• 33:34
  I've forgotten about. AFC West.
• 33:37
  I'm not gonna make this AFC West.
• 33:42
  Kansas City. KS City was Pat Mahomes.
• 33:45
  Denver was. Dang it.
• 33:49
  Who was Denver? Peyton Manning.
• 33:51
  The last time they won a Super Bowl.
• 33:52
  Yeah, OK, San Diego was Herbert slash LA Oh, sure, yeah.
• 33:58
  And then this is the Raiders, right?
• 34:02
  Derek Carr And is that? Am I missing a whole division?
• 34:09
  We haven't done Miami. Miami was Tua.
• 34:13
  That's right. You got it.
• 34:14
  Sorry I didn't check that one off.
• 34:16
  Tennessee. Tennessee.
• 34:18
  Tannehill, right. Cleveland.
• 34:22
  Jacksonville. Cleveland was, oh man, 2707.
• 34:29
  Thirty seconds. Oh man, Oh no.
• 34:32
  Is it a name I'd remember. Is it a memorable name?
• 34:36
  Memorable, yes. But I mean, it's a Browns
• 34:40
  quarterback. There's like a million of them.
• 34:42
  Man, that's true fries or something like that.
• 34:47
  No, man, I'm not gonna get this Jackson.
• 34:50
  But I really thought Trevor Lawrence made it.
• 34:53
  But I'm not gonna make it here. Dang it.
• 34:57
  All right, Derek Anderson. Oh, wow.
• 35:01
  For the Browns. OK, I guess, yeah, that makes
• 35:03
  sense. And David Gerard for
• 35:07
  Jacksonville, man, the guy was he after Byron left, which
• 35:10
  probably 09. We might need to double check
• 35:13
  that 'cause I really thought Trevor Lawrence made it.
• 35:17
  I mean, I'm OK being wrong. I.
• 35:19
  Don't have Trevor Lawrence interest on here.
• 35:22
  So, and this, I mean this accounts for Purdy this year.
• 35:26
  Yeah, Baker this year with the Bucks.
• 35:29
  Gardner Minshew with the Colts this year.
• 35:31
  All right, so I. I'll believe it.
• 35:33
  I'll believe it. I'm.
• 35:35
  That's pretty darn get. What do I get 30 of them?
• 35:37
  30 out of 32. All right, That's fine. 6
• 35:39
  minutes. Yeah, that's pretty good.
• 35:41
  I'm. I'm happy with that.
• 35:42
  That's a work, my friend. That is a work.
• 35:44
  And I'm just glad that I don't have to do another one because
• 35:49
  mine was terrible. I couldn't even get 4, barely
• 35:53
  get 4. That's right.
• 35:54
  And that was with a lot of help, so.
• 35:56
  Well, study up 'cause I kind of like this, right?
• 35:59
  We should we should do at least one each I.
• 36:01
  Have somewhere and I'll have to dig this out, but I have a
• 36:05
  Vikings book somewhere. OK, like a history of the
• 36:08
  Vikings. And and I also have some like
• 36:11
  Vikings trivia cards or something somewhere.
• 36:14
  So in a future episode, we might have to dig that out and quiz
• 36:20
  each other. For sure.
• 36:21
  We also have the Internet too. We can do a little pre, kind of
• 36:24
  like we did here. Little that research prep, prep
• 36:28
  for the show. There we go.
• 36:29
  Yeah, well, that was fun and kind of a fun way to break
• 36:33
  things up a little bit. Now that the Vikings season is
• 36:36
  over, the NFL season's nearly over.
• 36:39
  We're just trying to find some new ways to interact, have some
• 36:44
  good content out there. So we've got some.
• 36:46
  We've got some really good ideas.
• 36:48
  Yeah, we've got some things. Brewing up brewing.
• 36:52
  Yes, last week we talked a lot about IRA breweries and
• 36:55
  definitely made known that we're interested in doing a tour.
• 36:59
  So that's something we're gonna try to figure out on a summer
• 37:02
  tour. Yeah, one of one of these days
• 37:05
  we're gonna we're gonna take you the school hop family.
• 37:09
  With school hoppers. On a little tour of some
• 37:13
  breweries around Iowa and we're excited for that.
• 37:16
  So that's in the works. We're still in the very early
• 37:20
  planning phases of all of that, but we're excited for that.
• 37:23
  We're excited to brew the Skull Hop beer that's also coming up
• 37:27
  here pretty soon and we just, we have a lot more in the hopper,
• 37:34
  so to speak coming up. So TuneIn, check us out and
• 37:40
  share away if you've got somebody out there that's even
• 37:44
  if they're not a Vikings fan. Yeah, we we love just talking to
• 37:47
  football too. So like, even if the world's
• 37:49
  biggest Packer fan was like, hey, I'll come talk about the
• 37:52
  Packers, like, yeah, we'll talk about how the Vikings are better
• 37:54
  than the Packers. No.
• 37:56
  But we we, we like to talk about football.
• 37:58
  Friend of the show for us. He's a Bears fan.
• 38:00
  He's not even a a Vikings fan. So I've had him on a couple
• 38:02
  times, yeah. And we haven't kicked him off
• 38:05
  yet. In fact, he's gonna help us brew
• 38:07
  the beer. So.
• 38:07
  And and hopefully, come on, he he's a big college fan.
• 38:11
  So yeah, maybe he could be a good resource for draft time
• 38:15
  which is coming up faster. I mean, we're already shoot in
• 38:18
  February. Oh, yeah.
• 38:19
  So, yeah. Well, Speaking of that, we're
• 38:22
  gonna transition into kind of our segment with Dustin Baker
• 38:26
  here in a second. And in addition to many other
• 38:31
  things, Dustin did kind of give us his thoughts on who the
• 38:35
  Vikings should pursue. Yeah, at least what they should
• 38:38
  do, at least quarterback wise, this whole March.
• 38:43
  Slash April slash early offseason.
• 38:45
  Yeah. So stick around and catch some
• 38:50
  of that. We think it's pretty good
• 38:52
  content. And again, we're just thrilled
• 38:55
  that Dustin Baker would join us and let us share our our
• 39:02
  conversation with him. So we'll jump in, we'll jump
• 39:04
  into that and then we'll catch up with you all when we're done
• 39:08
  with that. All right, everybody, welcome
• 39:10
  back to the skull hop. So we have for the second time
• 39:15
  ever our, I guess, 2nd guest ever that we've ever had.
• 39:20
  We still haven't gotten past two.
• 39:21
  We need to get past two. But so you may remember, you
• 39:26
  know Mr. Dustin Baker from Vikings territory, you know, I'm
• 39:30
  on Twitter or X or whatever you want to call it these days at at
• 39:34
  Dust Baker and of course on the YouTube stuff at Vikes now.
• 39:38
  And we'll give him a chance to say anything I forgot.
• 39:40
  But welcome back to the Skull Hop, Dustin.
• 39:42
  Thanks for coming on. Yes, it's a pleasure to be back
• 39:45
  on. I had a blast the first time.
• 39:47
  If you guys want any more Vikings riders, come on, let me
• 39:50
  know. I got a whole plethora of them
• 39:51
  at Vikings. I shall.
• 39:53
  Trust me, they'll be hungry to do it.
• 39:55
  Yes, It is awesome to be back. We've had a couple developments
• 39:59
  since then. We had the end of a sad regular
• 40:01
  season and I'm anxious to get into that with you guys tonight.
• 40:04
  And now we have, we have a Super Bowl match up around the bend.
• 40:06
  So let's get to it. Yeah.
• 40:08
  Yeah, So. Yeah, we just kind of finished
• 40:11
  watching the championship games this past weekend, just a few
• 40:16
  days ago. I guess.
• 40:18
  So yeah, I I guess I was kind of surprised by a couple of things.
• 40:21
  I thought the Ravens would do a lot better.
• 40:23
  I was surprised at the Lions big first half.
• 40:26
  Dustin, any big surprises from from Championship Round Floyd?
• 40:30
  Yes, so the the meltdown. Of, you know, catastrophic
• 40:35
  fashion for the Lions. That actually surprised me.
• 40:38
  I think that I ended up, like most Lions fans at about what 7
• 40:43
  PMI was emotionally accepting that I was like, my goodness,
• 40:46
  the Lions are going to the Super Bowl.
• 40:48
  And even I didn't envision a total collapse like that.
• 40:52
  It turned out by the numbers, it was the largest collapse in NFC
• 40:54
  Championship history and I swear to God I said this on Twitter.
• 40:59
  I'm going to reiterate it here in person that if you would have
• 41:01
  told me on December 1st, hey homely, you can have the Vikings
• 41:04
  finished seven and 10 or they can go to the NFC Championship
• 41:07
  and lose a 24 to 7 lead. I would have said give me 7 and
• 41:11
  10 in the draft pick. I don't want anything to do with
• 41:14
  losing a 17 point lead when I have.
• 41:17
  I got to the point where I'm like we are doing this, we are
• 41:19
  going to the Super Bowl. So the Lions meltdown really
• 41:22
  surprised me and a part of that is that they were so dominant in
• 41:25
  the first like what hour. And then on the AFC side, I
• 41:30
  really bought into the Ravens and that this being Lamar's one
• 41:34
  big year. If you follow histrionics of
• 41:37
  football, if you assume that Lamar is kind of like, like Cam
• 41:41
  Newton, Lamar doesn't have a whole lot of elite years left.
• 41:45
  I think everybody knows that he's not a absolutely fantastic
• 41:50
  passer. He's good, but he's not.
• 41:53
  He's not a guy that can sit back and cook in the pocket when he
• 41:55
  gets to be like 30-4, in my opinion.
• 41:58
  And I thought all of the stars were aligning.
• 42:00
  Mahomes is on the road. The Ravens defense is so damn
• 42:03
  formidable. I thought, all right, this is
• 42:05
  they're gonna nobody wins the Super Bowl back-to-back.
• 42:08
  I thought, the Ravens are really going to do the thing this year.
• 42:11
  It's kind of how I felt about the Milwaukee Bucks 2 summers
• 42:13
  ago. And I was like, this is the
• 42:14
  honest year. I was like, he's going to get at
• 42:16
  least one and this one's going to be it.
• 42:18
  So I I had the same feeling with Lamar, but I was dreadfully
• 42:21
  wrong. So now, but I am excited to
• 42:23
  watch the Super Bowl. I always cheer for the AFC team
• 42:26
  when it's, well, it's never the Vikings.
• 42:28
  But in theory, if it were the Vikings, I always just end up
• 42:31
  cheering for the AFC team. And this year is no different.
• 42:34
  I know the Chiefs kind of have this Yankees vibe now or people
• 42:36
  decide they don't like them anymore.
• 42:38
  But I do appreciate the greatness in action.
• 42:40
  So, and I'm not betting against Mahomes again.
• 42:43
  I've done it two weekends in a row at least making a
• 42:45
  prediction, and I'm not doing it again.
• 42:47
  And they're underdogs by like a point.
• 42:49
  When are we never gonna learn? When will we learn two points?
• 42:52
  Apparently two point underdogs as of right now.
• 42:55
  Is it my goodness? Yeah.
• 42:57
  Yeah, that'll probably change. Although if it hasn't changed
• 42:59
  yet, I mean, so I think it opened at like 2 1/2 points.
• 43:03
  So I guess it's kind of moving towards them.
• 43:04
  But yeah, I agree with you. The Ravens I thought were gonna
• 43:08
  do it. Listeners of the Skull Hop will
• 43:11
  know that. I've been saying for a few weeks
• 43:13
  now that the Ravens are the team to beat this year.
• 43:16
  I really thought they were going to be the ones to dominate
• 43:18
  through. And I think you made a good
• 43:20
  point about Lamar where yeah, he's not a big heavy passer.
• 43:25
  I they put up his stats at the beginning of the championship
• 43:28
  game of the divisional round game and he had something like
• 43:32
  150 ish yards passing and 100 yards rushing.
• 43:36
  I think 4 total touchdowns. And they're saying that was a
• 43:39
  great game and it is. But like you think like a
• 43:41
  quarterback to have a great game, he's got to have like 300
• 43:44
  yards passing or something. I was surprised by the passing
• 43:46
  numbers. His deal, and I've learned I've
• 43:49
  I've watched this now evaluating quarterbacks, especially in the
• 43:53
  last decade, is he doesn't throw outside the numbers as crisp as
• 43:58
  a pocket passer does. This was Joshua Dobbs problem.
• 44:01
  But Lamar is better than Joshua Dobbs at passing and he's
• 44:04
  faster. But why do we think like oh boy.
• 44:08
  Lamar's only like I only really think he's got three seasons
• 44:11
  left at this elite level to do the thing.
• 44:14
  Because when you start to look like This is why Teddy
• 44:17
  Bridgewater never latched on as a long term QB, one is because
• 44:20
  they didn't. They don't throw it to the
• 44:21
  sidelines efficiently outside the numbers.
• 44:24
  And Lamar does it well, but he doesn't do it like the category
• 44:27
  we want him to live in with Josh Allen and Justin Herbert.
• 44:31
  And so I think that's the difference.
• 44:32
  And then mind boggling and they just decided, hey, we're not
• 44:35
  doing our bread and we're not running the football this game.
• 44:37
  You have to wonder, what? What on earth?
• 44:42
  I don't get it. So Dustin, do you think, do you
• 44:45
  think the Ravens losing affects the MVP voting 'cause I think
• 44:50
  going into the championship weekend, Lamar was kind of the
• 44:54
  favorite MVP. What are your thoughts that way?
• 44:58
  Well, it's always been my understanding that that voting
• 45:02
  is either already done or it is a blanket on the regular season
• 45:08
  only. So I'm pretty sure those votes
• 45:10
  have already been submitted. So it will be a little awkward
• 45:13
  on award night, February. What is it next weekend or
• 45:15
  something where we're like, yeah, Lamont Jackson, MVP and
• 45:18
  we're like what? I thought by the numbers Josh
• 45:20
  Allen should have won. MVPI mean he had like what was
• 45:24
  it? I think 13 more touchdowns, the
• 45:27
  same amount of all-purpose yards.
• 45:29
  Of course he has those Nick Mullins like interceptions that
• 45:32
  were all like, yeah, Josh, Josh being Josh.
• 45:35
  But the way that he, with an injured defense, dragged the
• 45:38
  Bills to the postseason from the brink of elimination.
• 45:42
  I thought statistically and for reputation's sake, you know, we
• 45:45
  were looking for an excuse for the last three years to give the
• 45:47
  MVP to Allen. I thought it should have been
• 45:49
  him to begin with. But the the world, I think, was
• 45:52
  fascinated with Lamar. Most of us thought they they
• 45:54
  were going to get to the big game.
• 45:56
  So I would assume that those votes were already cast.
• 45:59
  And I think Lamar still gets that because for better or
• 46:02
  worse, it's a regular season award.
• 46:03
  The same goes for the NBA. Yeah, that's true.
• 46:06
  And I guess I'd never really thought about.
• 46:08
  I've only ever thought about when they announce the award,
• 46:11
  not necessarily when the votes are cast.
• 46:13
  So I'm not sure it would be cool to know all of that because I
• 46:16
  know it's writers, right? Like the the the select few
• 46:20
  writers that get a vote, but I'm not sure when they get to choose
• 46:24
  that. But.
• 46:25
  That's a good. Point It's down the stretch of
• 46:27
  like Week 18 and I I'll stand corrected, but I'm pretty sure
• 46:32
  the playoffs have no bearing whatsoever.
• 46:34
  That's why it's always so weird. This happens in basketball a
• 46:37
  lot, where you're like, God, that guy won MVP and you know
• 46:41
  Seth Curry was the best player this year.
• 46:43
  Or, and don't get me started on LeBron not winning MVP for like
• 46:46
  12 years now in a row. It's ridiculous.
• 46:48
  But yeah, I digress. Yeah, well, yeah, I guess.
• 46:55
  I think it sounds like you were pretty surprised at least by
• 46:58
  both of the losing teams, the Ravens and the Lions.
• 47:00
  Especially after that, that meltdown of the Lions.
• 47:04
  Usually when we reference a tweet of yours on our show,
• 47:07
  you're not actually listening to us live make that reference.
• 47:10
  But you did make a tweet at some point during the first half
• 47:13
  that, hey everybody, you now need to be emotionally prepared
• 47:17
  for the Lions to not only get to, but win the Super Bowl and
• 47:20
  then thank you. You called yourself out on that
• 47:24
  for the old takes. Exposed.
• 47:26
  Oh yeah, yeah, I went. Back to look at some of the
• 47:29
  tweets I had during during the championship weekend and yeah,
• 47:32
  that point if anybody cares, that was my and my reflection
• 47:36
  point. I was like, the Lions are going
• 47:37
  to Super Bowl and they can do this.
• 47:39
  The 49ers, they can for damn sure do it to the Chiefs.
• 47:41
  And I was like, I cannot believe that this team we've beaten on
• 47:45
  for 63 years is going to do this before us.
• 47:48
  Then the world restored to order and we're like, oh, OK, This is
• 47:52
  why you have never gone there in the 1st place.
• 47:54
  But yeah, I totally thought in my bones that the Lions were at
• 47:58
  least going to get there. And then when I read it back,
• 48:01
  that was like vintage old takes exposed, you know, that guy
• 48:03
  should have retweeted it eight times.
• 48:05
  It was such a bad take in the heat at the moment.
• 48:09
  Yeah, so of the two losing teams, the Ravens and the Lions,
• 48:12
  who do you think? Has the best chance to make it
• 48:15
  back. Maybe next year, maybe the year
• 48:17
  after, make it back to the championship round and even the
• 48:19
  Super Bowl. Well, I believe the shine will
• 48:22
  wear off the Lions a little bit. There's always the kind of that,
• 48:27
  you know, sophomore slump, whether it's whether it's the
• 48:29
  rookie quarterback or a team in general.
• 48:32
  So this doesn't mean the Lions are like, hey, they're going
• 48:34
  6:00 and 11:00 next year. Now I think Dan Campbell aptly
• 48:37
  said after the game. And I can't believe he said
• 48:39
  that. He was like, this might have
• 48:40
  been our only shot. That was like, Jesus, how I was
• 48:43
  a player gonna hear that and be like, yay, why don't I even come
• 48:46
  to work anymore. But I think the Lions will be,
• 48:50
  will be good. But in terms of how they got to
• 48:53
  the NFC Championship, I think it'll be hard to replicate.
• 48:56
  And as a Vikings fan, I am content with Jared Goff being
• 49:00
  their quarterback for the next 10 years because he's that's
• 49:03
  this is what I wanted the Packers to get.
• 49:04
  I want them to have a good quarterback, 'cause I know
• 49:06
  that's kind of the way it goes. And then that's it.
• 49:09
  I don't want them to have Aaron Rodgers 45 touchdowns and six
• 49:12
  picks. I want them to have a guy who's
• 49:14
  pretty good. I think this is how the rest of
• 49:15
  the world feels about us with Kirk Cousins by.
• 49:18
  The. Way right.
• 49:18
  I don't agree with it, but I think this is what the world
• 49:20
  thinks. So I think with Goff, you're
• 49:23
  never going to have a guaranteed warrior to drag you to the
• 49:26
  promised land. But if everything else is pretty
• 49:28
  damn spiffy, then you know, hey, they're going to go 11 and six.
• 49:31
  Maybe they'll have a good playoff matchup and they'll get
• 49:34
  to the NFC Championship. That's how I view them.
• 49:36
  And on the Ravens, I'm still high on them.
• 49:38
  It really surprised me that they laid an egg like they did and I
• 49:43
  trust let's see which one is it John Harbaugh to right the ship
• 49:47
  and probably get closer to their final destination this year,
• 49:53
  next year. But I won't be surprised at all
• 49:54
  by either one. Both teams have the trenches
• 49:57
  built well and we can analyze, you know, quarterbacks and
• 50:00
  running backs all we want, but a lot of times football just boils
• 50:03
  down to who has the best offensive and defensive line.
• 50:06
  Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
• 50:09
  I had, I had a point, I forgot what I was going to say, but it
• 50:12
  must not have been that profound.
• 50:13
  But yeah, I I think Evan and I, we tend to agree kind of with
• 50:17
  your your thoughts on that. I think you mentioned the
• 50:20
  Packers in their quarterback situation.
• 50:22
  I think they the jury's still out a little bit on love.
• 50:25
  He kind of finished the year off pretty good.
• 50:27
  But I think he's probably, I hope he's probably in that Jared
• 50:32
  Goff territory where he's gonna win some games but he's not
• 50:35
  gonna any. I think he kind of proved in the
• 50:37
  playoffs he's not gonna take the Packers all the way to the
• 50:40
  promised land either. Not yet.
• 50:42
  That that's that's the fearful part is depends on how you look
• 50:45
  at him. Is he a first year quarterback
• 50:47
  or is he gonna be, what, a fourth or fifth year guy?
• 50:51
  Yeah, he's certainly in. That game against the Cowboys,
• 50:55
  his EPA CPO E was off the charts like 1.
• 50:58
  Of the best. Playoff performances ever.
• 51:00
  And for that week, we're like, of course they just found the
• 51:02
  next guy, but they had a lot of quiet turds throughout the year
• 51:06
  of the Packers. And we if you, if you, if you
• 51:09
  like them or whatever, you always just kind of ignore
• 51:11
  those. That Giants game on that
• 51:12
  football came to mind when the Vikings were kind of still in
• 51:14
  it. We're like, hey, Packers, we
• 51:16
  need a we need them to lose the Giants.
• 51:17
  And boom, they did. So yeah, right now the the scary
• 51:21
  part of love. I didn't enjoy seeing how good
• 51:24
  he can get at his peak. But then in those bad games, and
• 51:28
  then, hilariously, with the game on the line, he looked exactly
• 51:31
  like Rodgers and Farve. Yeah, the frame for frame.
• 51:35
  Yeah, all the exception was nuts.
• 51:37
  I would say I would be more fearful of I certainly would be
• 51:41
  more fearful of Love's possible ascension and development than
• 51:45
  Jared Goff. Because you have to remember
• 51:46
  Jared Goff in the 20. Is it 19 or 2020 season?
• 51:50
  It was like a joke. There was a there was a wild
• 51:53
  card game. I recall vividly where the Rams
• 51:55
  are going into I think they're playing the Seahawks or
• 51:57
  something. And it was like, hey, Goff's not
• 51:59
  going to play. He's got a bad wrist or
• 52:01
  something. And everybody's like, oh, OK,
• 52:02
  they got Johnny Wolford, no big deal.
• 52:04
  Nobody cared that Goff was out. They were all like, go to
• 52:07
  Wolford. It doesn't matter.
• 52:08
  And that's when I realized, all right, Jared Goff isn't quite
• 52:11
  the next big thing. And then he's fit in well with
• 52:14
  the Lions and I think he he does pretty damn good.
• 52:17
  But he he's just since we lived with Rogers for so long.
• 52:21
  If I I see a divisional foe have a quarterback who's who's right?
• 52:24
  Maybe, you know 10th, 11th, best guy in football.
• 52:27
  Not the 3rd or the 2nd. I'll take it.
• 52:29
  You know I'm not gonna. Get green and that's.
• 52:31
  Just because of 30 years of Rodgers and farve with the.
• 52:33
  Packers I agree. Well, and I guess to put this
• 52:37
  topic to bet a little bit. My personal hope for love is
• 52:41
  that maybe he has one more decent year and then they give
• 52:44
  him this absorbent contract and hundreds of millions of dollars
• 52:48
  and they really double, triple, quadrupled down on him.
• 52:51
  And then he starts to lay the egg and he shows who he really
• 52:54
  is, a la Russell Wilson and Denver like that would be.
• 52:58
  That would be great. Yeah.
• 52:59
  And he's gonna I I don't know when they have to lock that in,
• 53:03
  if that. Happened, I think.
• 53:04
  I don't. Probably this offseason, if his
• 53:06
  agent's been patient enough, my goodness.
• 53:09
  But yeah, he's gonna get one of those four years, 200 million,
• 53:12
  and then we just have to hope that he's not absolutely elite
• 53:16
  and generational like the last two bastards were.
• 53:22
  Switching gears a little bit more of a Vikings focus now, I I
• 53:26
  think the news has been dominated this week with Kirk
• 53:30
  Cousins and his contract. And I mean, ever since the
• 53:33
  Vikings season ended, that's been kind of the big topic.
• 53:37
  And I think it's the most important thing that the Vikings
• 53:40
  have to figure out in this offseason and is what happens at
• 53:44
  the quarterback position and what happens with Kirk Cousins
• 53:47
  specifically. He came out or I guess the rumor
• 53:51
  came out. I don't know if he said this
• 53:53
  directly, but the rumor is that he wants 45,000,000 a year, 90
• 53:58
  million / 2 years fully guaranteed.
• 54:01
  That realistic for the Vikings? Are they going to sign a
• 54:03
  contract like that and then try to fit the pieces around that?
• 54:07
  Or are they going to let him walk in free agency and see what
• 54:11
  else they can do in the draft or whatever else they can find?
• 54:14
  I would not want them to take the plunge at two years, 90
• 54:18
  million. If this was two years ago and
• 54:21
  Kirk was 3334, I'd be like, Yep, he deserves it.
• 54:24
  That's fair market value. But I'm paranoid about an
• 54:27
  age-related decline because they'll show up Matt Ryan.
• 54:31
  What was Roethlisberger about 3738?
• 54:34
  Don McNabb was cooked by 33. So we watched LeBron and Rodgers
• 54:38
  and Brady play until they're 40 and a Brady case 45.
• 54:41
  And we're like, this is the new way, baby.
• 54:43
  No, this is goats that do that. And so with with Cousins, I
• 54:47
  don't think anybody thinks he's a goat.
• 54:49
  So I am personally paranoid about giving him that much.
• 54:52
  Now the the report came from Pioneer Press's Charlie Waters
• 54:55
  and he they said the buzz is that Cousins is going to want
• 54:58
  two years, 90 million. So I mean that's that's
• 55:02
  basically just, you know, a rumor.
• 55:04
  We've been on an odyssey with him in the last 3 1/2 weeks.
• 55:07
  It's been, hey, will he take a hometown discount?
• 55:10
  And then he got in front of reporters and said structure is
• 55:12
  the most important thing to him for this contract, which
• 55:14
  basically is code for I want more than one year.
• 55:18
  You know, when you talk about structure, there's no debate if
• 55:20
  it's just one year. And then he was on with Isabel
• 55:23
  Gonzalez and said, yeah, I'd love to pay for Bill Belichick,
• 55:25
  Who wouldn't. And then Belichick wasn't hired
• 55:27
  with the Falcons. So he seems more receptive.
• 55:31
  Or at least his representation is saying, hey, get out there
• 55:33
  and scare the Vikings a little bit more than ever.
• 55:36
  He used to get mad when you bring up other teams.
• 55:38
  You don't remember the trade deadline when they're like, hey
• 55:40
  Kirk, what would you think about a trade?
• 55:41
  And he was like, yeah, no, yeah, he's like, next question.
• 55:45
  He said something to affect. He was he was about as ticked as
• 55:47
  you'll ever see cousins get in front of a camera.
• 55:49
  So I believe that the Vikings probably want that sweet spot
• 55:54
  hometown discount that we talked about, which is like 35 million
• 55:58
  instead of 45,000,000. And again, merely speculation,
• 56:03
  have no insight or Intel. I'm going to guess that Queasy
• 56:05
  has something that's like 2 years, 70 million.
• 56:09
  You'd take it or you leave it. You let us know because we're
• 56:12
  moving on if you don't want it. And I just keep getting back to
• 56:16
  it will be really, really, really weird if this
• 56:20
  progressive, analytics focused, collaborative regime is going to
• 56:24
  attach their job security to Kirk Cousins.
• 56:27
  Now, I really like Kirk Cousins just as much as I love Sam
• 56:30
  Bradford, Dante Culpepper. I liked those dudes a lot.
• 56:34
  But at age 36, coming off, this isn't like a sprained ankle.
• 56:37
  This is a a torn Achilles. I don't think it's in the
• 56:40
  Vikings interest to give him that much guaranteed.
• 56:43
  And let's face it, this is 6 years into this experiment.
• 56:46
  When do we ever take a step back and say, you know what, this
• 56:49
  hasn't worked Before I came into this Vikings writings career, I
• 56:53
  was a manager, I was a project manager, a district manager, a
• 56:56
  retail manager, and you always had to change things.
• 56:59
  You couldn't even if you had the best idea ever, at some point
• 57:02
  you have to switch it up. And especially with the Vikings,
• 57:05
  you've made the postseason twice in six years.
• 57:08
  The guy's getting older and older.
• 57:10
  He's depreciating. I firmly believe unless unless
• 57:14
  they're absolutely convinced in their heart of hearts they can
• 57:16
  win the Super Bowl with Cousins. I would rather do the bold thing
• 57:21
  and trade up and get the quarterback that they've
• 57:22
  identified that they love. I don't think the Vikings will
• 57:25
  sign on for two years and 90 million.
• 57:27
  I think they would sign on for two years and 70 million.
• 57:31
  Yeah, I could see that. I could get behind that.
• 57:33
  I think it was today. You had a real, really good
• 57:37
  article on Vikings territory about that, that rumor that two
• 57:41
  years, 90 million and that, yeah.
• 57:43
  That's basically where this diatribe came from, yeah.
• 57:46
  Well, and if I remember, I read it this morning, but if I
• 57:48
  remember right, you basically said like, yeah, Kirk's probably
• 57:50
  worth it, but probably not worth it for the.
• 57:52
  Vikings effort, It absolutely is worth it.
• 57:54
  If Daniel Jones set the market at 40 million for a middle of
• 58:00
  the road quarterback, you better believe Cousins is worth 45.
• 58:04
  But that doesn't mean the Vikings have to spring for it.
• 58:06
  We have a documented track record of how he fits within
• 58:09
  this team, and there's always something wrong.
• 58:12
  When he's quarterback, it's usually not him, but there's If
• 58:15
  the defense is cooking, then the offense sucks.
• 58:18
  If if the defense or if he's cooking, then Jefferson's hurt.
• 58:21
  You know, Addison's emerging. Oh, then Cousins gets hurt.
• 58:24
  There's always something awry. And my biggest I don't know if
• 58:27
  we're getting into this later. The thing that I it affects my
• 58:31
  decision making most on, you know, formula in this opinion is
• 58:34
  I want the rookie quarterback guy.
• 58:36
  If it's Drake, May, Jaden Daniels, JJ McCarthy.
• 58:39
  I want him to start in this offense now so that you know
• 58:44
  Jordan Addison has four years left.
• 58:47
  They get they only own him. Beyond that Jefferson is going
• 58:49
  to sign a deal. It's probably going to be 4
• 58:51
  years, 130 million and then TJ Hawkinson's going to be 28.
• 58:55
  I feel like we have this precious four years with all of
• 58:58
  these sweet ass offense pieces. I want the rookie quarterback to
• 59:02
  start developing now so that when we get to 2025 and 2026,
• 59:06
  those can be our Super Bowl window.
• 59:08
  If we're re up with Cousins, we're not going to see the
• 59:10
  rookie guy until 2020, 6:00 or so.
• 59:14
  And then you only got 2 years to get it right.
• 59:16
  And in all likelihood, the rookie quarterback guy isn't
• 59:19
  going to go 13 and four and go win a Super Bowl his first year
• 59:22
  starting. So I would rather with all of
• 59:24
  these offensive weapons, while they're still in this
• 59:27
  contractual window, I want that guy to Start learning on the job
• 59:31
  now rather than, all right, well, maybe we'll win it with
• 59:33
  Kirk. That's my personal take.
• 59:36
  Would you be able to? Would you be more in favor of
• 59:39
  just handing the keys over to one of those rookies and just
• 59:42
  saying, yeah, let's figure this out over the next couple of
• 59:44
  years rather than trying to do what the Packers have done
• 59:47
  historically. Bring in the rookie, let him sit
• 59:51
  behind the veteran for a couple of years and then get rid of the
• 59:54
  vet and see what happens from there.
• 59:57
  I wanted them to do that two years ago, and they decided not
• 1:00:00
  to. But thank God they didn't draft
• 1:00:02
  a quarterback from that 2022 draft class because it was not
• 1:00:05
  good. The only one that was worth the
• 1:00:07
  damn was Brock Purdy. And who?
• 1:00:08
  Who would have known that? So ideally you would have had
• 1:00:12
  the guy, you know, sitting and waiting and hopefully ready for
• 1:00:16
  this moment. But they tried that with Kellem
• 1:00:18
  on. No good I guess.
• 1:00:20
  I guess Jaren Hall is still a wait and see but yeah I would if
• 1:00:24
  if that's the decision that they they make like you know what we
• 1:00:27
  want Cousins back. We've come to an agreement for
• 1:00:29
  two years, 80 million and by the way we're also drafting JJJ
• 1:00:33
  McCarthy. I will be very excited about it.
• 1:00:36
  But the scenario that I drew up is my Holy Grail is that they
• 1:00:41
  tell Cousins goodbye. We really appreciated it and
• 1:00:43
  then they make a bold splashy trade to go get for me, Drake
• 1:00:47
  May, because I I keep telling myself between the commanders
• 1:00:50
  and the Patriots, one of those teams is going to realize, you
• 1:00:53
  know what, we're not a quarterback away from doing this
• 1:00:56
  doing very well. And I think one of those teams
• 1:00:58
  will say, God, we can, we can get two first rounders, 2 second
• 1:01:01
  rounders off the Vikings. And then you know we'll do what
• 1:01:04
  we have to for this year. We'll take our lumps and then
• 1:01:06
  we're going to have a draft capital bonanza.
• 1:01:08
  We can go get Arch Manning and a couple.
• 1:01:10
  You know, all those possibilities are limitless.
• 1:01:12
  So my endorsement is hell or high water trade up to get Drake
• 1:01:17
  May. That's my first one and I could
• 1:01:19
  be talked into Jayden Daniels depending on how his combine
• 1:01:22
  guy. The only thing about Daniels
• 1:01:23
  that scares me is he might be a little slight in the frame.
• 1:01:26
  I don't know if he'll be as durable as we hoped that some of
• 1:01:29
  these running quarterbacks are mobile quarterbacks.
• 1:01:31
  Excuse me? Yeah, so I was gonna ask who who
• 1:01:36
  your guy would be. If they Drake may up in draft,
• 1:01:38
  yeah, yeah. Last year and last year I have
• 1:01:40
  this in print. It was CJ Stroud when I watched,
• 1:01:44
  when I watched all of it. I try to figure out which guy
• 1:01:47
  absolutely will not be the bust because I don't want to be stuck
• 1:01:50
  with that guy and I don't want to be wrong about it from an
• 1:01:52
  analyst perspective. And I kept coming back to the CJ
• 1:01:55
  Stroud because he wasn't 25 like every quarterback was last year
• 1:01:58
  in the draft. He just looked so damn poised at
• 1:02:02
  Ohio State and then the other intangibles where he's played in
• 1:02:06
  ginormous games for Ohio State. And then he he did both.
• 1:02:09
  He could scramble out of the pocket when you needed them to.
• 1:02:13
  I swear we watch every playoff game between Josh Allen, Patrick
• 1:02:16
  Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and when it's third and 8th, they're
• 1:02:19
  taking off and running and we need a guy who can do that if we
• 1:02:22
  want to keep up with, you know, all these teams that you strive
• 1:02:24
  to be. So last year my endorsement was
• 1:02:27
  to trade the farm for CJ Stroud. I wrote that when it was still
• 1:02:31
  kind of that Stroud could possibly fall to four or five.
• 1:02:34
  He ended up going to. But yeah, right now Drake May is
• 1:02:37
  the guy that I've circled. I would be content with Jaden
• 1:02:40
  Daniels and then the other ones. You can just hang tight and
• 1:02:44
  draft at 11 or trade back, whether it's Pennex or McCarthy.
• 1:02:48
  I wouldn't just say necessarily, yeah, let's go with the Pennex
• 1:02:51
  and that's the guy, because then I will fully expect like a four
• 1:02:55
  and 13 season while he really warns.
• 1:02:57
  I think Drake may, if we're right about his scouting report,
• 1:03:00
  could probably bring them closer to 500 in his first year.
• 1:03:03
  And we'd call that, you know, a great season with a rookie
• 1:03:06
  quarterback, yeah. Well, I trust you.
• 1:03:08
  I believe in in your thoughts. So I'm going to steal your
• 1:03:11
  thoughts and and do it, Drake may along the.
• 1:03:13
  Drake may stuff. It's really cool.
• 1:03:15
  His arm is there. He's like Josh Allen that
• 1:03:18
  there's real no drop like drop off when he tucks it and runs.
• 1:03:21
  It's not some like, you know old white guy who looks really slow.
• 1:03:24
  Like he actually looks like he knows what he's doing.
• 1:03:26
  And this is all assuming by the way that Caleb Williams is going
• 1:03:29
  #1. No matter what, we have a long
• 1:03:32
  way to go in the draft lead up. So there's a chance that Caleb
• 1:03:35
  Williams does something funky or everybody falls in love with
• 1:03:38
  Drake May, and a lot of these thoughts will apply to Caleb
• 1:03:40
  Williams. But in terms of realism, I think
• 1:03:44
  trading up for Drake May with the commanders, maybe the
• 1:03:47
  Patriots. I think that can be done by the
• 1:03:49
  Vikings. You just have to be willing to
• 1:03:51
  give up probably two first and two seconds.
• 1:03:54
  I mean if you're making the bold move, you got to make the bold
• 1:03:57
  move and have the cojones to do it.
• 1:03:59
  So. So yeah.
• 1:04:02
  If they if they draft one, what are your?
• 1:04:04
  Thoughts on the? Idea of like a bridge
• 1:04:06
  quarterback and who? Who could that realistically be
• 1:04:10
  if they do go that route? So I grew up with those.
• 1:04:14
  I'm 40 years old now and you never started a rookie
• 1:04:17
  quarterback. I think.
• 1:04:19
  I think, I think I told you guys on the last show.
• 1:04:21
  Maybe I didn't. I in three years I lived in
• 1:04:23
  Houston, TX and they drafted Steve McNair.
• 1:04:26
  That team was so bad and they absolutely refused to put his
• 1:04:30
  ass in ever. And we had season tickets
• 1:04:32
  through my step dad's job and so we go and we just Boo the Oilers
• 1:04:36
  for not playing Steve McNair. Ever since then I have been
• 1:04:39
  totally turned off by the idea of bridge quarterbacks.
• 1:04:42
  I think they're stupid like you know and thankfully the NFL has
• 1:04:46
  caught on like you don't really need them anymore unless the guy
• 1:04:49
  is terribly raw. Like let's say Jared Hall was
• 1:04:51
  our big inspired plan at the beginning of the season.
• 1:04:53
  You would have needed a bridge quarterback for him, but if
• 1:04:56
  you're going to draft one of these guys in the top ten, maybe
• 1:04:59
  maybe even getting away with it, Pennex at 11, I'd rather than
• 1:05:03
  just go ahead and start the guy out of the gate.
• 1:05:06
  Baker Mayfield's going to deserve like 30 million at a
• 1:05:09
  minimum for what he did. So, I mean, you might as well
• 1:05:11
  keep Cousins if you're going to do that.
• 1:05:13
  I mean a Jacobi Brissette, I guess.
• 1:05:15
  But to me, Nick Mullins, if you absolutely want to do the bridge
• 1:05:19
  quarterback, just do that with him.
• 1:05:21
  The narrative of Nick Mullins. Yep, the narrative of Nick
• 1:05:23
  Mullins would have been 100% different if the Brian Flores
• 1:05:26
  defense didn't die the moment Mullins stepped foot on the
• 1:05:30
  field. Like that fourth quarter against
• 1:05:32
  the Bengals. Like a week after I talked to
• 1:05:34
  you guys, we were all high on the Vikings defense and then it
• 1:05:37
  just stopped being good. I will say for the rest of my
• 1:05:41
  life, to anybody that cares, Nick Mullins would have had his
• 1:05:44
  own Joe Flacco story if the Vikings defense didn't just
• 1:05:48
  because Malaka was throwing picks, too, but nobody cared
• 1:05:50
  because they were winning. So Nick Mullins is like, one of
• 1:05:53
  the most fun backup quarter acts I've ever seen.
• 1:05:55
  It's third and 28th. Oh, that's cool.
• 1:05:57
  Mullins will get it. Like with Cousins, you'd be
• 1:05:59
  like, oh God, there's no way we're getting this.
• 1:06:01
  But Mullins was such a, you know, erratic gunslinger.
• 1:06:05
  I really wish that the defense would have been sufficient while
• 1:06:09
  he was playing, because then he wouldn't have had to bend that
• 1:06:11
  greedy on a lot of those with those weird passes.
• 1:06:13
  So if the Vikings said, you know what, we're doing a bridge
• 1:06:16
  quarterback thing, I would say you might as well just do it
• 1:06:19
  with Nick Mullins. Otherwise, you can even bring
• 1:06:21
  Dobbs back for a couple weeks if you want to just, you know,
• 1:06:25
  guide to the door. But yeah, I don't have any
• 1:06:27
  interest in going and spending 2030 million on a bridge
• 1:06:29
  quarterback. You might as well keep Kirk.
• 1:06:31
  Yeah, yeah. I guess that's a point and I
• 1:06:33
  think you, it may have been a throwaway comment you made a
• 1:06:36
  little bit ago, but I think you kind of hit the nail on the head
• 1:06:38
  on what the, the quote, UN quote hometown discount would
• 1:06:42
  realistically be for the Vikings.
• 1:06:44
  I think you said two years, $80 million.
• 1:06:46
  That's probably closer to realistic than anything else.
• 1:06:49
  Yeah, that's I got. Really.
• 1:06:50
  Spooked when? When That conversation started
• 1:06:52
  about two weeks ago, you know, put it in quotes.
• 1:06:55
  Hometown discount. And I think there's still fans
• 1:06:58
  who think that means two years and 20 million or so.
• 1:07:01
  No, a hometown discount would be two years and 70 million.
• 1:07:05
  Especially in Cousins, is like his greatest attribute is being
• 1:07:09
  the shrewd businessman. And here we are in the 12th
• 1:07:12
  season is going to be 13th of his career that we're thinking
• 1:07:14
  that he's going to suddenly start taking hometown discounts.
• 1:07:17
  The only guy that ever does that is Tom Brady and we assume that
• 1:07:20
  the other quarterbacks should do it.
• 1:07:22
  So it when I saw the the latest buzz that Cousins wants 2 years
• 1:07:25
  and 90 million. So I was like, there he is.
• 1:07:27
  That's the Kirk that we know and love.
• 1:07:29
  He's going to get his guaranteed cash.
• 1:07:31
  The other one that's intriguing and it'll make a lot of you
• 1:07:34
  listeners and viewers roll your eyes, is Russell Wilson.
• 1:07:37
  And it's not because I want Russell Wilson on the Vikings.
• 1:07:40
  It's because he will be certifiably cheap if he were to
• 1:07:44
  sign a a big deal. All of his guaranteed money from
• 1:07:47
  the Broncos is offset and nullified.
• 1:07:50
  So he has a vested interest in signing a small deem small deal
• 1:07:54
  with some team so he can keep that Broncos guaranteed cash.
• 1:07:58
  So anytime you've ever seen all Russell Wilson to the Vikings,
• 1:08:01
  it's not because people think he's the solution.
• 1:08:03
  It's that if you want a bridge quarterback he's going to be
• 1:08:05
  crazy cheap. Like we're talking like vet
• 1:08:07
  minimum cheap. Interesting.
• 1:08:10
  Yeah, that kind of would would change my thought process on
• 1:08:12
  that a little bit, but not too much.
• 1:08:18
  Yeah, I guess. I guess we're coming down to
• 1:08:20
  some of the things that I had written down.
• 1:08:22
  I did want to do something kind of fun before we were done
• 1:08:24
  talking to you today, Dustin. I wanted to do just a totally
• 1:08:29
  unfair not holding you to this opinion at all, but a way too
• 1:08:35
  early record prediction for the Vikings in 2024.
• 1:08:39
  We know who the opponents will be when they're home and away,
• 1:08:42
  except for that London game, which I think will technically
• 1:08:45
  be a home game just in London. So yeah, just.
• 1:08:50
  This is unfair, and this won't come back to bite you anywhere.
• 1:08:53
  It's just the Internet. What?
• 1:08:55
  What? What's your your record
• 1:08:57
  prediction for the Vikings next year?
• 1:08:59
  OK, well, because this is outrageous, I'm going to have
• 1:09:03
  twofold. If they do do the proverbial run
• 1:09:06
  it back with Cousins, I believe they will be 10 and seven.
• 1:09:10
  This is assuming that he's healthy.
• 1:09:11
  I think they'll be about 10 and seven and who knows what that
• 1:09:15
  gets you And hopefully a playoff win.
• 1:09:17
  If they endorse my plan, I sound like like I'm running for
• 1:09:20
  senator here. If they endorse my plan, which
• 1:09:23
  is trade up and get Drake, May I think you're looking at 7:00 and
• 1:09:26
  10:00, six or 11, but we'll be really happy with that because
• 1:09:30
  you'll see the growth from that quarterback.
• 1:09:33
  So let's say yeah, if they rip off the Band-Aid and said we're
• 1:09:35
  going with somebody non cousins, I think it will be an exciting 7
• 1:09:40
  and 10 type of year. If they go back with Cousins,
• 1:09:42
  which I will get behind, we'll talk after that deal's done and
• 1:09:45
  I'll sound like a different guy. I'll be like, yeah, we can do
• 1:09:47
  it. Maybe I then I'll say yeah, it's
• 1:09:50
  10 and 7:11 and 6:00 because I'm of the rare minority opinion.
• 1:09:54
  I don't think this defense is as horrible like, you know, you saw
• 1:09:58
  in Vikings Twitter. Well, we need to revamp this
• 1:10:00
  defense and get all these new people.
• 1:10:01
  This defense was Absolutely Fabulous for like 10 games in
• 1:10:04
  the middle of the season, and I'm convinced that it just needs
• 1:10:08
  some reinforcements. I don't think this is assuming
• 1:10:11
  you bring Daniel Hunter back, but I don't.
• 1:10:13
  I don't think it's just this shitty thing that's macabre all
• 1:10:16
  of a sudden. I think, hey, this thing, the
• 1:10:18
  luck ran out in December and I'm convinced that the defense has
• 1:10:21
  young building blocks and yeah, you'll get, hopefully you signed
• 1:10:24
  an edge rusher like Bryce Huff. That's the guy I want from The
• 1:10:27
  Jets. Hopefully you get an impact
• 1:10:29
  defensive tackle. I've been asking for that for 10
• 1:10:31
  years and they always say, Nope, we're getting Shamar Stephen or
• 1:10:33
  hey, we're getting Jonathan Bullard.
• 1:10:34
  They always get some guy you've never heard of to play that
• 1:10:37
  position. So I'd like them to beef up the
• 1:10:39
  defensive trenches. Yes, that is my that's my
• 1:10:43
  offseason vision, is trading up for the quarterback that they
• 1:10:46
  like and then adding defensive pieces, but not a complete
• 1:10:49
  overhaul panic wise. Awesome.
• 1:10:52
  Yeah, I could see how Kirk would be the the the best chance to
• 1:10:57
  win the most games in 2024 or, yeah, 2024, which I think is
• 1:11:02
  what you're saying. If you're trying to win the most
• 1:11:04
  games this coming season, Kirk's the best chance.
• 1:11:07
  But for the future, the. Reason I don't have this gung
• 1:11:11
  ho, Kirk Kirk or We Die mindset that there still is a lot of
• 1:11:16
  Kirk guys and gals that you know don't want him no matter what.
• 1:11:20
  The Vikings were four and four when he got hurt.
• 1:11:22
  If they were seven and one, I'd be right there with you.
• 1:11:24
  I'd be like, Oh my God, how did we lose?
• 1:11:26
  Kirk? It was our year, but they were
• 1:11:28
  four and four and so we are in there.
• 1:11:31
  I mean, yeah, they were without Jefferson, but they started
• 1:11:33
  winning games with Jefferson went down.
• 1:11:35
  So I believe that because they were only 500 at the time of his
• 1:11:40
  injury. That has brought me back to
• 1:11:42
  that, like, God, what if they start four and four again in
• 1:11:45
  2024? I'm just a little spooked.
• 1:11:47
  If they were 718 and O six and two, I think we'd have an entire
• 1:11:51
  different conversation because we would have felt like we were
• 1:11:53
  this close and we got robbed because you know, cousins, Acer
• 1:11:58
  Achilles blew out. All right.
• 1:12:01
  Evan, you got anything else? Any any last minute tidbits?
• 1:12:05
  I was just looking over here, 'cause I've got ESPN pulled up
• 1:12:09
  real quick. You got a Super Bowl prediction
• 1:12:11
  for us, Dustin? Yeah, I'm.
• 1:12:13
  I was so disappointed 'cause my pre season one was bravens over
• 1:12:17
  49ers and I was like yes, I got it right.
• 1:12:20
  I am absolutely done bet betting against the Chiefs.
• 1:12:25
  I'm not a big better besides fantasy football, but prediction
• 1:12:28
  wise, I picked the Bills 'cause I was like, all right, if the
• 1:12:31
  Bills are ever going to do it, it's going to be this game.
• 1:12:33
  This is their chance. And then I I applied that same
• 1:12:36
  damn logic to the Ravens and I'm getting I'm getting just tricked
• 1:12:40
  into not believing into what the Chiefs can do when their backs
• 1:12:44
  are up against the wall. So I'm going to take the Chiefs
• 1:12:47
  over the 49ers, but I think it will be close.
• 1:12:50
  I think the Chiefs will probably win by three to six points.
• 1:12:54
  So let's say Chiefs 30 to 24 over the 49ers.
• 1:12:59
  I am really scared by Brock Purdy in certain moments of
• 1:13:03
  games. I know the QB wins, crowd thinks
• 1:13:06
  that he's elite, but in that divisional round game, let's see
• 1:13:11
  who did they to beat the Packers.
• 1:13:14
  I swear to God, there was an hour he couldn't complete a
• 1:13:16
  single pass. I was even turning to my friend
• 1:13:19
  saying they need to put in Sam Darnold.
• 1:13:20
  Man, this is this is it. You got to complete a pass in
• 1:13:22
  order to win this game and ultimately he kind of figured it
• 1:13:25
  out in that final drive. So I am skittish.
• 1:13:28
  That Brock Purdy, I don't think is this, you know, Kingmaker.
• 1:13:32
  I think he's along for the ride and good for him.
• 1:13:34
  You know, he's played quite well.
• 1:13:36
  He just, it's just a joke to me that we, you know, we want to,
• 1:13:39
  he'll be in everybody's power rankings in the top five this
• 1:13:41
  summer. It's going to drive me nuts.
• 1:13:45
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:13:46
  Well, yeah, I can get behind that prediction.
• 1:13:47
  That's a pretty solid prediction.
• 1:13:49
  I don't think it's going to offend anybody.
• 1:13:51
  Maybe Niners fans, but yeah. They got to know it in their
• 1:13:55
  heart of hearts, too. Like, I don't give a shit of
• 1:13:57
  parties, good or not, but I'm watching that game and he looked
• 1:14:00
  like a moron. He looked like Kellen Monde for
• 1:14:02
  like an hour, like he just couldn't complete a pass.
• 1:14:04
  He looked completely I'll equipped to be a quarterback and
• 1:14:08
  then I can't remember exactly how they turned around.
• 1:14:10
  But in the fourth quarter, you know, much to like, we were
• 1:14:12
  like, come on, all that paranoia I had about the Lions, I had the
• 1:14:15
  week before with the Packers. I was like, Oh my God, they're
• 1:14:18
  going to be the Cowboys on the road and they'll be the 49ers on
• 1:14:20
  the road. But yeah, give me the Chiefs by
• 1:14:22
  6 and you'll finally have a repeat Super Bowl champion for
• 1:14:25
  the first time in 20 years. Awesome.
• 1:14:28
  Yeah, that's crazy all. Right.
• 1:14:31
  Well, before we wrap up, you, you plugged some things last
• 1:14:34
  time you were with us, but anything else you wanna plug or
• 1:14:36
  you wanna plug the same kinds of things?
• 1:14:38
  You're kinda everywhere. Where can our listeners find
• 1:14:40
  you? Bikes Now is the YouTube
• 1:14:43
  channel. I record about 5 episodes per
• 1:14:46
  week. I'm working with a dude named
• 1:14:48
  Tyler Ireland. He writes for the Daily Norseman
• 1:14:50
  and I invited him on as a guest couple months ago and he he I he
• 1:14:54
  was great and I invited him to stay and he he loves doing a lot
• 1:14:57
  of behind the scenes work, getting a lot of cool guests.
• 1:14:59
  So that's where you can see me on video and then on Vikings
• 1:15:02
  Territory. I write on there all day, every
• 1:15:05
  day, every, every nook and cranny about the team and I will
• 1:15:09
  just leave on this note that at the top of the show, Evan was
• 1:15:12
  correct. The only thing that matters
• 1:15:15
  right now about the Minnesota Vikings is, well, he what he
• 1:15:19
  said was everything starts with Kirk and, you know, depending on
• 1:15:21
  what they do, then they move forward in the offseason, which
• 1:15:23
  is totally correct. But the only thing that matters
• 1:15:26
  about Vikings football between now and the next five years is
• 1:15:29
  whether or not they get the quarterback selection right.
• 1:15:34
  All right. Hey, welcome back.
• 1:15:35
  Thanks for joining us as we got another chance to interview
• 1:15:40
  Dustin Baker. I had a lot of fun.
• 1:15:42
  Yeah, talking. To him, he's a good, good guy.
• 1:15:44
  Yeah, I like that, dude. Yeah.
• 1:15:45
  So hopefully sounds like we'll be able to get him back on the
• 1:15:49
  show soon. Yeah, as far as I'm concerned,
• 1:15:53
  Dustin has an open invitation to come on our show.
• 1:15:55
  So yeah, but yeah, I think so we got some things brewing there
• 1:15:59
  again. So yeah, that'd be.
• 1:16:01
  That'd be a lot of fun to have him back.
• 1:16:03
  Yeah, yeah. And we're not just a podcast.
• 1:16:07
  We're we're on the socials. We're out there.
• 1:16:10
  Yeah, we are the skull hop worldwide.
• 1:16:13
  So I mean really, if you just type in, if you go to Google or
• 1:16:16
  your favorite search engine and you just type in the skull hop,
• 1:16:20
  you'll find our website, theskullhop.com.
• 1:16:24
  You'll find Twitter, you'll find Instagram, you'll find Tiktok.
• 1:16:30
  We're on Facebook. I mean, shoot, we're on Reddit,
• 1:16:34
  which we haven't really done anything with, So sorry if you
• 1:16:36
  tried to reach out to us on Reddit.
• 1:16:38
  We just haven't looked at it. I mean, YouTube, we're at, we're
• 1:16:41
  everywhere. So yeah, check us out.
• 1:16:43
  Socials everywhere. Obviously anywhere you can find
• 1:16:46
  any podcast whatsoever, we're probably there.
• 1:16:49
  You think Ask Jeeves would yield any results for the school half?
• 1:16:53
  It's worth a try. If you if you find us on Ask
• 1:16:56
  Jeeves, let us know. I'm very interested.
• 1:17:00
  I might just switch my browser or my search engine to ask
• 1:17:04
  Jeeves for a week just to see what happens.
• 1:17:05
  I bet it's not active anymore. Or you can go like bought it.
• 1:17:09
  You can go through the like web archive.
• 1:17:13
  There's a way? There might be like a Google
• 1:17:15
  skin for Ask Jeeves or something.
• 1:17:17
  I don't know. Is that even a thing?
• 1:17:18
  I don't know. But yeah, we're out there.
• 1:17:20
  You'll find us 25 episodes in Now So.
• 1:17:24
  There you go. And 25 different beers.
• 1:17:27
  Yeah, we've doubled up on breweries a couple of times.
• 1:17:30
  But but never the same beer twice.
• 1:17:32
  Yeah, so, and Speaking of doubling up on breweries, I
• 1:17:35
  think very early on we had Five Cities, Swifty Hippie we did,
• 1:17:40
  which was another probably the more staple IPA.
• 1:17:43
  And again, to reiterate, we've got the five cities, Good Boy,
• 1:17:48
  Good Boy IPA. And Evan really took to this
• 1:17:50
  one. Yeah, immediately before he
• 1:17:52
  tried it. He was showing love and
• 1:17:53
  affection to that one, so. You have to check out the TikTok
• 1:17:56
  for that content though. So yeah, other than the name and
• 1:18:01
  can, what do you think of this beer?
• 1:18:02
  I liked it. I said this at the beginning,
• 1:18:05
  and I mean many, many more sips in just reiterate.
• 1:18:10
  It's straightforward. It doesn't mess around.
• 1:18:13
  It doesn't pretend to be something that it's not.
• 1:18:15
  Yeah. It's just a solid, just IPA.
• 1:18:18
  Like a good boy would be just like a a good dog, right?
• 1:18:22
  It just doesn't mess around. He's just he's there.
• 1:18:25
  He's loyal. Like you ever have a bad day and
• 1:18:27
  you come home and your dog's so happy to see you and it just
• 1:18:31
  kind of brightens your day a little bit.
• 1:18:33
  This is the beer equivalent to that.
• 1:18:35
  Like you. A bad day or a good day.
• 1:18:37
  Who? Whenever come home and man, the
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  Good Boy IPA is so happy to see you.
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  Yeah, I like it a lot. So much so that during the
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  Dustin Baker interview I I finished and poured another one.
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  So. No, it just magically filled up
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  between now and. Then man, Can you imagine 5
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  cities? If you have a magic football
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  beer glass, let me know. I would.
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  I don't know how much I would pay for that, but probably more
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  than I should. That might get us in trouble.
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  Might We're good with the the four pack tall boys for now and
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  it was delicious and we'll definitely be back for some
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  more. So yeah, well we'll wrap this up
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  for today and again we've got some exciting things on the
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  We'd love to share our content with more people so.
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  Yep, our audience hasn't quite found us yet.
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  You're out there. Find us.
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  Yep you will. You will.
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  All right, man. Till next time, School.
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  School. Hey Vikings fans, Evan here from
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