Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #261 I'll Do Better Tomorrow
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:07Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Now your family time is awesome woman altogether, but sometimes
- 0:13Speaker 2: we have to make some sacrifices for the betterment of
- 0:15Speaker 2: the family.
- 0:16Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, My mum
- 0:19Speaker 1: and Dad.
- 0:20Speaker 3: Good da'stpt to Justin Coulson, the author of six books
- 0:22Speaker 3: about raising happy families and the founder of Happy Families
- 0:26Speaker 3: dot com dot you. I'm here with my wife Kylie,
- 0:29Speaker 3: who is shaking her head in frustration.
- 0:31Speaker 4: What have I done? You haven't done anything.
- 0:33Speaker 2: This morning has been quite a morning.
- 0:37Speaker 3: In what way? Why has it been so rough?
- 0:39Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to mention any names. But one
- 0:41Speaker 2: of our children could not find a school uniform. She
- 0:45Speaker 2: has two formal dresses.
- 0:46Speaker 3: She complained to me about that at six forty five,
- 0:48Speaker 3: and she alternates.
- 0:50Speaker 2: So she wears a former uniform one day, sports uniform
- 0:53Speaker 2: the next day, which gives me enough time to watch
- 0:54Speaker 2: those two new uniforms before former uniform.
- 0:57Speaker 4: And sports uniform. Right, it's really really easy.
- 0:59Speaker 3: You've got you've got a spare.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Anyway, there's a second uniform. So she comes in very
- 1:04Speaker 2: very upset because she could not find a score uniform,
- 1:06Speaker 2: and she put it in the wash two days ago,
- 1:08Speaker 2: so it should be available for.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Because the washing fairy makes sure that the washing's done
- 1:13Speaker 3: that consistently.
- 1:14Speaker 4: That's right.
- 1:15Speaker 2: So I said to her, you have two uniforms, but
- 1:17Speaker 2: you've only worn one this week. It's a short week,
- 1:19Speaker 2: And I said, so, I'm not sure why you can't
- 1:22Speaker 2: find your other uniform. I've done all of the washing,
- 1:24Speaker 2: the mining is all up to date, which doesn't happen
- 1:26Speaker 2: all the time, but it is at the moment.
- 1:28Speaker 4: I'm on top of it.
- 1:29Speaker 3: So are you searching like the clothesline and the living
- 1:31Speaker 3: room for a spare uniform? That? Oh?
- 1:33Speaker 2: I walked to the ironing pile because I thought that
- 1:34Speaker 2: must be the only other place that it could be,
- 1:36Speaker 2: even though I know I'm up to date, And she said,
- 1:38Speaker 2: I've already checked there.
- 1:39Speaker 4: It's not there.
- 1:40Speaker 2: So the next thing she comes out, she's dressed in
- 1:43Speaker 2: a uniform, but it's all scrunched up.
- 1:44Speaker 4: I said, where did you get that uniform?
- 1:46Speaker 3: She put it out of the thirty wash.
- 1:48Speaker 2: She sure did, and then blamed me that she was
- 1:50Speaker 2: going to stink all day right because she had to
- 1:53Speaker 2: wear a dirty uniform. So I went down to the
- 1:56Speaker 2: girl's bedroom a few minutes later. And you know how
- 2:01Speaker 2: some people, and especially our kids, have selective sight.
- 2:05Speaker 3: Right like I have selective hearing.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Yes, well I didn't have to I literally I did
- 2:11Speaker 2: not have to move a single thing. Her wardrobe door
- 2:17Speaker 2: was open, and the third item hanging in her wardrobe
- 2:22Speaker 2: was a brand new, freshly ironed uniform.
- 2:27Speaker 3: The whole time.
- 2:29Speaker 2: This is the same child who can sniff out sugar
- 2:32Speaker 2: no matter where it is in the house. I could
- 2:34Speaker 2: have hidden it in the best possible place and she'll
- 2:37Speaker 2: find it, but she could not find her uniform that.
- 2:39Speaker 4: Was hanging up three hangers in. I'm a little bit frustrated. Yeah,
- 2:44Speaker 4: it's been a.
- 2:44Speaker 3: Hard morning, okay, And I've been in the office getting
- 2:47Speaker 3: stuff done because we've got so much on today in
- 2:49Speaker 3: the office. Hey, we've got some really cool stuff to
- 2:53Speaker 3: talk about Today's I'll do better tomorrow. But we've also
- 2:55Speaker 3: got a couple of winners. We forgot to do this
- 2:58Speaker 3: last week. This was my I think you this last week,
- 3:01Speaker 3: as you didn't even know that even though we were
- 3:03Speaker 3: doing it, I forgot to do this last week. But
- 3:05Speaker 3: we've started this thing on Facebook called Little Wins Wednesdays,
- 3:09Speaker 3: where it's basically we wanted you to tell us all
- 3:12Speaker 3: about your little ones and your little wins.
- 3:13Speaker 2: So I had a little win this morning because I
- 3:15Speaker 2: found the uniform hanging up in the wardrobe.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Is that how it goes?
- 3:17Speaker 1: Now?
- 3:17Speaker 3: I don't think that was a win. I think this
- 3:18Speaker 3: morning was pretty disaster. We're looking for real, proper wins,
- 3:23Speaker 3: and the winner wins a Justinism pack, our twelve little
- 3:26Speaker 3: mini a five sized posters to help parents to stay
- 3:29Speaker 3: on track, make everything go great. We sell it for
- 3:32Speaker 3: thirty bucks. You get it for nothing just for sharing
- 3:34Speaker 3: your little wins Wednesdays. And then on of course Friday,
- 3:37Speaker 3: we announced our winners. So we've got two winners today.
- 3:41Speaker 2: So last week we had Michelle mcclennan Spence who said,
- 3:45Speaker 2: my daughter had a science test on returning to school.
- 3:48Speaker 2: She really struggles with learning and especially science. We sat
- 3:51Speaker 2: together to write up a learning strategy and how many
- 3:54Speaker 2: hours spent learning a section each day. Her iPad with
- 3:57Speaker 2: her games and TV only came on at twelve and
- 4:00Speaker 2: the morning was spent learning. There were many meltdowns and arguments,
- 4:04Speaker 2: but she studied. Yesterday, she wrote to the test and
- 4:07Speaker 2: last night as I came to say good night, she said,
- 4:09Speaker 2: thank you for helping me see the positives of learning
- 4:11Speaker 2: and encouraging me.
- 4:13Speaker 4: I love you.
- 4:14Speaker 2: That was a huge win for her to understand that
- 4:16Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to be mean or punish her, but
- 4:18Speaker 2: to help and encourage her.
- 4:19Speaker 4: I love that.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Yeah, winning, well done, Michelle, thanks so much for sharing that.
- 4:23Speaker 3: And this week's.
- 4:23Speaker 4: Winner, D Kennedy.
- 4:25Speaker 2: She said, my son, he has asd Adhd and Odd
- 4:30Speaker 2: has a new teacher. She called me in this week
- 4:32Speaker 2: for a meeting and talked to NonStop about how wonderful
- 4:35Speaker 2: he is, how well he's progressing, how hard he tries,
- 4:38Speaker 2: and how he has friends friends. I've never had this experience.
- 4:42Speaker 2: What a win for him, for her and for me. Oh,
- 4:45Speaker 2: I want to cry.
- 4:45Speaker 3: Yeah. That's a nice one, isn't it.
- 4:47Speaker 2: It's so nice, especially when you have children that have difficulties,
- 4:50Speaker 2: to have somebody see them for who they really are.
- 4:53Speaker 4: That is.
- 4:53Speaker 3: That's awesome, little ones, little wins. Congratulations to Michelle and d.
- 4:58Speaker 3: We hope that you enjoy your Justinism's packs. We'll get
- 5:01Speaker 3: them off in the mail to you. In fact, because
- 5:03Speaker 3: we're running late and we were supposed to do this
- 5:04Speaker 3: last week. They've probably already arrived, but we shared those
- 5:07Speaker 3: winds and we would love for you to jump onto
- 5:08Speaker 3: Facebook on a Wednesday when we post for your little
- 5:11Speaker 3: Winds Wednesdays so that you can tell us how you're
- 5:13Speaker 3: having little wins with your little ones. Up next, I'll
- 5:16Speaker 3: do better tomorrow. What we've won, what we've lost, how
- 5:19Speaker 3: we've failed, how we've succeeded in our own parenting experiences.
- 5:23Speaker 1: This week, it's the Happy Families Podcast.
- 5:27Speaker 3: For a happier family, Try a Happy Families membership, because
- 5:30Speaker 3: a happy family doesn't just happen. Details at happy families
- 5:34Speaker 3: dot com dot au.
- 5:36Speaker 2: It's the Happy Families Podcast, the podcast for the time
- 5:39Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers now. And we are
- 5:42Speaker 2: talking success and failure.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll do better tomorrow.
- 5:45Speaker 2: For those of you who are we talking success and failure,
- 5:48Speaker 2: let's talk reflections.
- 5:49Speaker 4: I like that much better.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'll do better tomorrow is it's a
- 5:51Speaker 3: chance to reflect on the week that was and work
- 5:53Speaker 3: out how we can be better parents tomorrow. Who's first,
- 5:56Speaker 3: you or me?
- 5:56Speaker 4: Oh?
- 5:57Speaker 3: You can go first, Okay, So, oh this is a
- 5:59Speaker 3: really story for me to tell. I have to follow
- 6:02Speaker 3: up a tremendous failure with a stunning success, because I
- 6:06Speaker 3: blew it this week in a really big way. We've
- 6:09Speaker 3: been talking for I reckon a decade about getting a
- 6:12Speaker 3: new TV like the TV that we've got. I think
- 6:16Speaker 3: it's from about two thousand and six, two thousand and eight,
- 6:19Speaker 3: great big Samsung thing and.
- 6:21Speaker 2: It wasn't even new for us.
- 6:22Speaker 4: It was a hand me down.
- 6:23Speaker 3: Well, we got it secondhand in about twenty twelve, but
- 6:26Speaker 3: it's not a smart TV and the remote's been lost,
- 6:30Speaker 3: but it worked right. We've it worked, and for years
- 6:33Speaker 3: and years and years, I've walked into the various electronic
- 6:35Speaker 3: stores and said, how about if we get a new TV,
- 6:38Speaker 3: and then we look at the prices of the TVs,
- 6:39Speaker 3: we look at what the TV is, and we walk
- 6:42Speaker 3: out empty handed because I just can't bring myself to
- 6:44Speaker 3: spend the money on a new TV when I've got
- 6:45Speaker 3: one at home that works. So on Saturday I've had
- 6:48Speaker 3: to duck down to the local electronics store to pick
- 6:51Speaker 3: up a DVD player. We still have a DVD player,
- 6:54Speaker 3: We're that ancient and we use it enough. But our
- 6:57Speaker 3: DVD player had stopped working, so I've gone down there.
- 6:59Speaker 3: Saw that up. While there, I'm looking at the TVs
- 7:01Speaker 3: again and I make this decision. I'm like, okay, I'm interested.
- 7:06Speaker 3: And they had this sixty inch TV, sixty inches Smart TV.
- 7:10Speaker 3: It was some brand, no it It wasn't a no
- 7:13Speaker 3: name brand, but it wasn't one of the big brands.
- 7:15Speaker 3: Sixty inches for seven hundred and ninety five dollars. Smart
- 7:19Speaker 3: TV does everything fully capable the whole lot.
- 7:21Speaker 4: We've been looking at TV's that were like three times.
- 7:23Speaker 3: That price, and that's what I thought, Hang on, why
- 7:25Speaker 3: this is so cheap. Maybe it's just some but it
- 7:27Speaker 3: wasn't a dodgy no name brand or anythink it was.
- 7:29Speaker 3: It was a good TV. So I said to the guy,
- 7:31Speaker 3: what's the difference between this one and one of the
- 7:33Speaker 3: fancy brands, and he said, it's just the name. I'm like, really, though,
- 7:36Speaker 3: I mean we're talking three four times the price. He said,
- 7:38Speaker 3: it's just the name. I looked at it and there
- 7:41Speaker 3: was another one that was fifty eight inches right behind it,
- 7:44Speaker 3: only a two inch different, both the same price. I said,
- 7:46Speaker 3: any difference between these soo? He said, not really, they're
- 7:48Speaker 3: the same price. They're pretty much they come out of
- 7:50Speaker 3: a different factory, but quality is fine, does it all?
- 7:53Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know what, I'm going to buy it.
- 7:55Speaker 3: So I said to him, what's the best price you
- 7:57Speaker 3: can do on this seven hundred and ninety five dollars
- 8:00Speaker 3: sixty inch TV? And he pokes it into the computer
- 8:03Speaker 3: and goes five hundred and fifty five dollars, and I'm like,
- 8:06Speaker 3: no way, So I said I'll take three. I didn't
- 8:09Speaker 3: really I did say I'll take three, but I was
- 8:11Speaker 3: only kidding. I bought it. I walked it, walked out
- 8:13Speaker 3: of the store with the DVD player. I had to
- 8:14Speaker 3: go and get the big car to get the TV home,
- 8:17Speaker 3: did all the running around, figured it all out, set
- 8:19Speaker 3: it all up, got the.
- 8:20Speaker 2: I sent you down to get the DVD fects, and
- 8:23Speaker 2: you came home with not only a new DVD player,
- 8:25Speaker 2: but a brand new TV.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Yeah, and everyone was so excited. But the first thing
- 8:30Speaker 3: that I said to the kids once I had it
- 8:31Speaker 3: set up was don't touch the remote. Don't lose the remote.
- 8:35Speaker 3: The remote stays right here. You're not allowed to play
- 8:37Speaker 3: with the remote. Lo and behold Sunday morning, the TV
- 8:41Speaker 3: is not even sixteen hours old, and one of the
- 8:45Speaker 3: kids comes to me and says daddy.
- 8:47Speaker 4: No, it wasn't daddy.
- 8:48Speaker 2: She was boiling her eyes out before she even said
- 8:51Speaker 2: a word.
- 8:52Speaker 3: I've lost the remote, and I think you're going to
- 8:54Speaker 3: be really mad at me. I'm like, it's not even
- 8:57Speaker 3: a day old and we've lost the remote. So I
- 9:00Speaker 3: didn't respond like a parenting expert should. I responded like
- 9:03Speaker 3: an angry dad on a Sunday morning who's just been
- 9:06Speaker 3: given bad news response. I was like, right, all of
- 9:08Speaker 3: you go downstairs, find the damn remote.
- 9:10Speaker 4: What did I say to you, honey?
- 9:12Speaker 3: I think you said something like it'll show up.
- 9:15Speaker 4: I think I might have.
- 9:16Speaker 3: Yeah, So throughout the day they couldn't find it. They
- 9:19Speaker 3: searched for fifteen or twenty minutes before they lost interest.
- 9:22Speaker 3: And I'm starting like, I'm just seething. How is it possible?
- 9:25Speaker 3: I must have said to you about fifteen times. How
- 9:27Speaker 3: could they have lost the remote? I was incredulous.
- 9:31Speaker 2: It literally came up in every conversation you and I had.
- 9:36Speaker 3: That day, and you were so calm, You're like, it'll
- 9:39Speaker 3: show up, It'll show up. We searched the entire house.
- 9:41Speaker 3: We searched outside, we looked in the garden, we looked
- 9:43Speaker 3: on the deck. We looked everywhere, have the dogs eaten it?
- 9:47Speaker 3: Couldn't find the remote anywhere. And then on Sunday afternoon,
- 9:52Speaker 3: our eldest daughter, who still lives at home, our eighteen
- 9:54Speaker 3: year old, says, I just hopped into my bed and
- 9:58Speaker 3: I forgot last night I took the remote out of
- 10:00Speaker 3: the TV room so that none of the kids would
- 10:01Speaker 3: watch TV because they had to go to bed. You
- 10:03Speaker 3: and I had been out that night, and I slept
- 10:05Speaker 3: with it in my bed and I just found it
- 10:07Speaker 3: underneath the sheets in my bed.
- 10:09Speaker 2: And I think somebody said it'll show up. I don't
- 10:15Speaker 2: know who said it, but somebody very wise said it
- 10:18Speaker 2: would show up.
- 10:19Speaker 3: I was cranky all day, Like, I was so cranky,
- 10:22Speaker 3: and literally every conversation with the kids, they'd say, so, Dad,
- 10:25Speaker 3: can we have some lunch? I'd say, have you found
- 10:27Speaker 3: the remote? Or yeah, maybe you'll find the remote in
- 10:30Speaker 3: your sandwich. Like I was snarky and I was snide,
- 10:34Speaker 3: and I was horrible. I was I was how do
- 10:37Speaker 3: you lose a remote? On day one? But the cutest
- 10:40Speaker 3: and most heartbreaking thing was that Emily, the seven year old,
- 10:42Speaker 3: the one who actually apparently thought she'd.
- 10:44Speaker 4: Lost her remarked dropped her in it.
- 10:46Speaker 3: Well, she walks into the room. She was the one
- 10:48Speaker 3: who told us, Actually, not Abby. She told us that
- 10:50Speaker 3: she'd found the remote, and she said, I must have
- 10:52Speaker 3: been carrying it and tripped over and dropped it into
- 10:55Speaker 3: Abby's bed, and Abby's like, yeah, dropped it into my
- 10:58Speaker 3: made bed under neath the sheets.
- 11:01Speaker 2: So not only did Abby sleep with it, she then
- 11:04Speaker 2: made the bed right, not knowing it was there.
- 11:08Speaker 4: What is the deal with these kids?
- 11:10Speaker 3: So my I'll do better tomorrow is that it's a
- 11:13Speaker 3: finite universe.
- 11:14Speaker 4: You can't sweat the small stuff.
- 11:16Speaker 3: Kids lose stuff. It didn't feel like small stuff. It
- 11:18Speaker 3: took me ten years to buy the damn television and
- 11:21Speaker 3: it took them less than a day to lose roote.
- 11:23Speaker 3: It didn't feel like a small thing. Gosh, it was
- 11:27Speaker 3: so frustrating. Anyway, on Monday morning, I made up for
- 11:30Speaker 3: it because I got there.
- 11:32Speaker 4: Are you going to tell my story now?
- 11:33Speaker 2: Oh?
- 11:34Speaker 3: Okay. So that's why I'll do better tomorrow. Don't sweat
- 11:36Speaker 3: the small stuff, be patient with the kids, and if
- 11:38Speaker 3: they lose stuff, it will show up.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Well, I'm here to make you look a hundred times better.
- 11:43Speaker 4: You're so good to me because sometimes.
- 11:45Speaker 2: In family life, you kind of just have to make
- 11:47Speaker 2: some decisions that you wish you didn't have to make,
- 11:49Speaker 2: but it's going to be better for everybody in the
- 11:52Speaker 2: long run. We've had a really really busy holiday period
- 11:56Speaker 2: and a lot of extra people in the house and
- 11:59Speaker 2: our house really needed a once over.
- 12:02Speaker 3: Yeah, house needs are three times over. Let's be honest.
- 12:04Speaker 2: It's and it's been driving you and I both crazy.
- 12:06Speaker 2: We're both very neat people, and we like things to
- 12:09Speaker 2: be a certain way, and we like everything to have it,
- 12:11Speaker 2: you know, be in its place and have a place,
- 12:14Speaker 2: and our house has not been that for four weeks
- 12:18Speaker 2: on end. And you know, we've hit the ground running
- 12:19Speaker 2: with back to school and it's just continued to kind
- 12:23Speaker 2: of morph into this.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Back to school feels like a long time ago.
- 12:27Speaker 2: So anyway, I decided that the only way we were
- 12:31Speaker 2: going to get through this was I just needed to
- 12:33Speaker 2: send everybody away. And the wonderful thing was that you
- 12:38Speaker 2: just got on board. And the first thing you did
- 12:41Speaker 2: on Monday morning was you talk because for a bike
- 12:43Speaker 2: ride through the city.
- 12:44Speaker 4: Yeah, I was so jealous.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Can I tell you how jealous I was of you
- 12:48Speaker 2: guys going to the city doing the bike pass on
- 12:52Speaker 2: the bike. We haven't done that as a family for
- 12:54Speaker 2: years because little miss Emily, who's now seven, couldn't ride
- 12:58Speaker 2: a bike. This is a first time you've been able
- 13:00Speaker 2: to do it with her in tow, and she did.
- 13:03Speaker 4: The whole thing.
- 13:04Speaker 3: So what I was going to do on Monday morning
- 13:05Speaker 3: was get up and go for a surf on my own.
- 13:07Speaker 3: And I was laying in bed after the alarm went off,
- 13:09Speaker 3: and I thought, Oh, it just feels a bit selfish.
- 13:11Speaker 3: It's a public holiday and I really should be with
- 13:13Speaker 3: my family. And then I thought, oh, instead of going
- 13:15Speaker 3: for a surf, I might jump on my bike and
- 13:17Speaker 3: I just do a short bike ride because I need
- 13:19Speaker 3: to do something fitness. And then I thought, oh, n
- 13:22Speaker 3: the kids really need me. And I didn't know that
- 13:24Speaker 3: you were intending to do what you did, and so
- 13:26Speaker 3: I just loaded up the car and you said that
- 13:27Speaker 3: you're going to stay home and clean. I was like
- 13:29Speaker 3: missing out all the fun. We had the best morning.
- 13:32Speaker 3: We stopped at New Farm Park. For anyone who knows Brisbane,
- 13:34Speaker 3: we stopped at New Farm Park, rode along the river
- 13:36Speaker 3: walk into the city, down past Eagle Street, through the
- 13:39Speaker 3: Botanic Gardens to South Bank and then we turned around
- 13:41Speaker 3: and rode all the way back, stopped at Newfarm Park.
- 13:43Speaker 3: The kids had Emily doesn't call it a chocolate thick shake.
- 13:46Speaker 3: She calls it a chocolate smoothie.
- 13:48Speaker 4: It's healthier if it's a smith.
- 13:49Speaker 3: So we had chocolate smoothies, played in the park, got
- 13:52Speaker 3: home at like eleven o'clock. It was just an awesome
- 13:55Speaker 3: morning and we got home to a mostly clean house.
- 13:56Speaker 3: It was phenomenal. I mean winning all the way. So
- 14:00Speaker 3: your I'll do better tomorrow is sometimes you've got to
- 14:02Speaker 3: kick the family out, get dad to step up and
- 14:05Speaker 3: get the house clean. Is that what you're saying.
- 14:07Speaker 2: I think sometimes we just have to prioritize and we
- 14:09Speaker 2: have to work out. And yes, family time is awesome
- 14:12Speaker 2: and all together, but sometimes we have to make some
- 14:14Speaker 2: sacrifices for the betterment of the family. And as a result,
- 14:17Speaker 2: we've gone through an entire week where the house has
- 14:21Speaker 2: been ordered, structured, clean, and it's just been a delight
- 14:25Speaker 2: and everyone has felt it well.
- 14:27Speaker 3: The take home message the universe is finite, and when
- 14:30Speaker 3: you lose stuff, it eventually shows up, and sometimes it doesn't,
- 14:33Speaker 3: and it's okay either way, and don't take it out
- 14:36Speaker 3: on the family when they make mistakes, because everyone does.
- 14:38Speaker 3: And like you said, sometimes it's okay to prioritize and
- 14:42Speaker 3: not do things as a family because stuff just has
- 14:45Speaker 3: to get done and everyone feels better when we can
- 14:47Speaker 3: be at peace with that.
- 14:48Speaker 2: But next time I'm coming for the bike ride, maybe
- 14:50Speaker 2: I'll leave you behind to clean.
- 14:52Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not going to get the same outcome in
- 14:54Speaker 3: either contexts. We really hope you enjoyed the podcast. I'll
- 14:59Speaker 3: do better tomorrow. We'll be back next Friday. Hey, on Monday,
- 15:01Speaker 3: we're going to do a really nice summarine review of
- 15:05Speaker 3: Mother's Day. Kylie has written something really special. Can't wait
- 15:09Speaker 3: to share that with you on Monday. And on Tuesday,
- 15:11Speaker 3: answering one of the curliest and trickiest, most sensitive questions
- 15:15Speaker 3: that we've ever had to the podcast from a mum
- 15:17Speaker 3: who has a daughter who is identifying as transgender. That's
- 15:21Speaker 3: all coming up on the Happy Families podcast next week
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