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90: Sister Wives - The Understatement of the Year (S18 E6) · Reality TV Cringe

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Hello, and welcome to You Don't Reality TV Cringe Podcast. I'm one of
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your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with my real tight homegirl, beat
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Beatrice. That's me. She has just returned from her travels, which is
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why everybody has been waiting for this podcast, waiting with bated breath, writing
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you DM and you like, where's my trash? Where's my ship? I
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showed up in the dumpster at the right time, and there's no trash.
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Sorry. I was on a raccoon vacation. How is it? It's great?
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Did you have such a good time? Yeah? What did you do?
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We went up to Colorado. We did a lot of hiking. We
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brought our pets with us. We drove up. We went to estes Pa.
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Gosh, it's beautiful. Yeah, we went to Golden Colorado. Did
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you do a lot of weed? Oh? Yeah? Were you just smoking
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a whole lot of time inedible and drinking those weeds, sodas and everything?
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Was it so delicious? So great? Every where we went. She took
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all of her animals, your menagerie of animals. You have one dog,
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Luna. Yeah, she's our geriatric princess, so old, demented, blind,
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death and then you have three cats. You took your three cats and
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your old demented dog took a road trip twelve thirteen hours to Boulder, Colorado.
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That was must have been fun. Yeah, we rented a SUV,
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but they gave us a minivan instead. Oh really, I didn't know that.
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Yeah. It was actually a pretty nice that probably works out pretty well.
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Oh yeah, I had this big old trunk and everything. I set
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it up for all the pets. And what did the cats do? They
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don't sit in the back at all. They sit underneath like our seats and
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the driver's side the entire way. Really, so you didn't have them in
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carriers. They were just free balling it. Oh yeah, they prefer to
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free ball it. Okay, yeah, all right, Well we are so
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happy to have you back. We've been missing you. I've been crying every
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night. Everybody where's I miss you. We do things every week like it
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was. But it was also really good because they didn't have to do shit.
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Yeah. I totally took a break myself. Me too. I was
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just like, I'm not going to watch anything. I didn't watch anything until
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I came back. Yeah, me neither. I was all yesterday and what
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is it six shows that we're covering Jesus Christ. So, yeah, I
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watched it all yesterday and we're gonna be potting today. We're gonna be also
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potting later for Plasville. And first of all, I'm hanging. Oh yeah,
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I'm hung the fuck over. Yeah, my husband and now we know
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why because I had two drinks. It's not a lot, especially with my
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body man, huge person. Did he make them? He didn't make them?
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And then I went to the freezer today to look at the vodka.
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It's like some fucked up hundred proof vodka. I think VA normally is not
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that much of a proof, but like, I was so sick this morning.
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Oh I don't know if I can meet you and the Jumpster Patro.
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I know you texted me. You're like, I can't do ten am.
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I thought I could. She texted me on like seven am this morning.
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I'm like, why are you even up this early? I was up at
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five, I was up seven. I was just really sick. So so
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I am dragging my raccoon ass in here to cover Sister Wives, because well,
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we got to talk about it. We have to talk about it all,
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All right, let's get into Sister Wives season eighteen, episode six,
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entitled the Understatement of the Year. That's a reference to cou coup you think,
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so yeah, totally so well, because when he meets Janelle at SUSA
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Brava for their little appointment. She I think. She says, you know,
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we haven't talked since our fight or whatever, and he's like, yeah,
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that was kind of a rough one, wasn't it. And she's like,
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well, that's the understatement of thing. I didn't even catch that.
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Yeah, it was a reference because you're hung over. I'm hungover. I
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mean, I was watching it when I was sober, but like, I
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can't be asked to listen to everything that these people are saying. And it
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was just like a lot of filler and a lot of talking, a lot
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of filler. I'm like, I don't care about Mary's business. I'm so
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kind of care because they think it all roads lead back to points, and
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I want to know where the points are coming from and how they're counted and
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how they're allotted. And so I think we got some interesting info, but
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it was boring as fuck. Yeah, and I don't care about Christine and
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her whole matchmaking thing and then painting care about that. I also care about
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Jen, who is Mary's best friends, being like we're totally shipping. We're
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shipping them as lesbian lovers because Mary deserves to be loved. She does.
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She's entering her fifties. She's got a voluptuous body. Baby, she loves
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adventure and travel. She does so want to have a companion. Yeah,
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it gives you a little slum sum, you know what I mean. It's
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the box a little that's right. Well you'd know about that, what do
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you. So let's start at the beginning. We have Christine with mckeltie and
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Aspen and their husband's and they're painting. Yeah, they're having a nice family
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moment and they're just chit chatting away. Christine's painting some they're painting all like
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a tree with hearts or something on it for Valentine's Day. Yeah. This
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is when like they show the other talking heads of the other wives talking about
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Valentine's Day and Christine says that Valentine's Day is pretty shitty for polygamists obviously,
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because you have all these fucking wives that you have to cater to. It's
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such a hassle. And Christine says that Cody would sometimes get them Valentine's Day
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gifts, and they show a montage from the earlier seasons of him getting the
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wives all a bunch of roses and everything. When Robin finally came into the
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picture, and I was just thinking, like that was all totally performative on
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Cody's part. It was never actually genuine. And that's what Christine is kind
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of getting at. Janelle says that she's not going to celebrate Valentine's Day with
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Cody this year, doesn't really want to. Mary, her pathetic ass is
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like, well, I can celebrate Valentine's Day because you'd have to have a
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Valentine to celebrate Valentine's Day, right, And I'm like, Mary, I
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mean, gets them self respect please. Speaking of roads, all roads lead
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to why the fuck are you being a doormat and letting this person treat you
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this way? Yeah, when you're all about worthy ing up, I need
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you to worthy up and get yourself out of there and out of this predicament.
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Mary. It's so sad. And she's just like saying that and laughs
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and then immediately goes back to a front. I'm just like, yeah,
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she's an unhappy person, worthy up, Yeah, she needs to worthy up.
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So Christine is talking about procuring a matchmaker, hiring a professional. Yeah,
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she told the matchmaker everything I lived polygamy, We had four wives and
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one husband. This is my baggage. This is my stuff, all my
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kids, and so you can go out and find me a match. And
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do we think that she found David Woolley through the matchmaker? I thought she
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found him online, like on a dating app. Maybe it's from that.
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Maybe maybe the matchmaker she's talking about is like, what's that website? What's
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it called Harmony? Oh? Okay, Yeah, it's one of those where
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it's like it's a matchmaker, but it's all online. I see, you
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know, maybe that's everything by answering all the questions on Okaycupid, you know
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what I mean. I don't know. So do we think in this moment
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as they're painting and together as a family, she's already gone out on dates?
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Has she already met Dave Woolley or no? I don't know. It
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kind of feels like kind of like with fucking Kim and Ken Palmer, who
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we see in Plasma who I'm are we already know when she's talking to MAMASO,
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she has already met Kim Palmer. They're already dating and it's obvious.
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And so I'm just wondering if in this moment with Christine Brown, whether she's
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already met David Woolly and she's just because she's so much lighter, yet so
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much happier. She's so bubbly. It's because she's getting her box. I
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feel like she's getting the deep girl. She's getting what they call it,
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the scoops of ice cream. She's sampling it right from mister David Woolley.
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Maybe he's got a big goal scoop down there. Oh god, oh Jesus,
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I don't think. I don't think so, but I mean I hope,
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so, like, what do I know? Yeah? I hope.
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You know. I don't know. You dated an impotent guy. Remember every
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episode you're gonna have to bring up the impotent guy. I'm telling you this
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sex was fire, so right, you can't underestimates. We have to say
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that on Patreon only. We can't say that he's gonna find you know,
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he still stalks me, but my Bonani is fire paying for our patt Oh
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no, no, Anyway, we get the scene where Christine is talking about
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how Cody was never attracted to her, yeah, and how that fucked with
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her mind, yeah, and how that made her feel as a woman.
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And I was just sitting there thinking, I just can't even imagine knowing and
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hearing and feeling that my husband or my partner is unattracted to me and or
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repulsed by me. Yeah, Like, I know they wrote that in the
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book. I was hoping that was like a throwaway anecdote, but like he
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really wasn't attracted to her, and he was telling the other wives that he
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wasn't attracted to her too. I'm just like, that's so wild. I
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can't imagine with my partner and everything. I'm telling her she's pretty all day
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every day because she is. He's a witty, but like, I can't
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imagine just being like, oh, yeah, you know what, not attracted
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to you anymore? I think I think you're gross and no more intimacy.
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It's hurtful and it's cruel. It's so terrible. It's downright mean. And
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later in this episode, you know, because he's incessantly talking about Christine as
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he's there to negotiate his marriage with Janelle. Janelle even says like he's been
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saying for years that he's not attracted her. And if I heard that one
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fucking time, I had been gone, I would not a gift. Yeah,
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just terrible. I feel for Christine, and so she's worried, like
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do I even know how to kiss? I know, I mean, I've
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had sex with this man over the years, but was it even good?
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Am I any good? Do I even know how to date? And I
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can feel that, especially with having that looming thought too of like, I've
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been with this man for thirty years. He wasn't even attracted to me.
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He was my first kiss, he was my first lover, my first sexual
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encounter. I'm like, I can't imagine fifty Yeah I can't. I can't
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either, I can't. But more power to her. Yeah, she found
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him right away, she went all in with him right away. She's marrying
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him very quickly as well, which is a little bit of a red flag,
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a little bit. Yeah, But I mean he has a widower two
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years older. He's got total life experience. She's got life experience. So
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I hope that they do well. And I can't wait to see the journey
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and how it begins, and I can't wait to see the moment. Hopefully
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we get to see the moment where Cody meets David. Oh my god,
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I want to see that so freaking bad. And did you catch that?
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Christine also kind of manifested this man too. She was talking about what she
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desires in a man, and she's literally describing bald, biker guy tattooed,
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and I'm just saying, wasn't I right when I said I envisioned one of
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these wives. I kept saying Mary or Janelle with a biker man. Yeah,
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but she brings it up riding a motorcycle with tattoos. And I haven't
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seen any tattoos on David, but maybe he's got like, well, she
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put a titty tattoo on her body, so maybe he's got some tattoos and
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she loves it. Yeah, she was manifesting right there. But I I'm
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thinking to myself because she said, I want somebody to total opposite of Cody.
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But Cody is bald. Let's be real. I mean, I mean,
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he is trying so hard with those two ringlets down the front of his
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forehead. I'm like, oh, this is embarrassing for everybody, the salsa
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with his hair just dangling in front of him like two long, greasy ten
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drils on, Like, what is going stop? I mean he I think
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he feels like he takes care of himself. Yeah, because obviously he refers
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to his fucking six packs a p and his pecks and how sexy Janelle finds
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him, so obviously he thinks highly of himself. He would have to to
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have a hairstyle like this, which is so meticulous, and those girls are
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so fucking type. But it looks bad. You would literally look so much
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better if you just shaved that whole thing and just embrace your baldness like David.
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Well, you'd like a look a thousand times better. Oh for sure,
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just shave it off, grow a big old beard, and then keep
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your six pack in your picks. Okay, right, I mean, have
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you seen on the internet all of the pictures of him in the pond with
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his bibotis on and he's just got that old man kind of stuck out belly
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And I'm like, no, Cody, No. Even when he was standing
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up, some people were taking shots of him standing up after his conversation with
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Janelle and his paunches out. My x are fucking inverted. I'm like,
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okay, dude, you don't see reality. No, you don't see reality
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with your own wives, you don't see reality with your kids, and you're
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not seeing yourself realistically. That's not reality, No, not at all.
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And the fact that he keeps trying to hide his bald spot as if we
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all can't fucking see it. I'm just like, dude, you are d
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Lulu. He is totally Dululu. Before we leave Salt Lake City and Christine's
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happy gathering, we have to talk about Tony sampling all the ice cream before
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he got with McKelty. Can this even pass? Bull? Let's come on,
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they're a woman, at like, be careful Carol's stature. I'm just
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like, I can't. So he was like a play a player. I
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can't out there. It just sounds like laying it low and spreading it wine
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at least twice. Girl, that's crazy, I see. I don't know
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if I can believe that personally, but we'll just give him the benefit of
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the doubt. But you nobody wants to think about that. Next we move
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on to Parowan, Utah, where I was gonna say Robin, but it's
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Mary. Mary has returned because she wants to get her ship together in the
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B and B and she wants She's got some plans. She wants to move
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her Lula Row business all of her clothing to the carriage house, which she
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looks sick. A shed to me, yep, total shed to total shed.
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She wants to move her clothing to the shed, and so she's got
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plans. She meets Jen there and well, we would hope, so we
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would hope. So well, I watched this episode twice and each time I
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got to this part, I totally checked out, Yeah, because it was
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kind of boring. I'm just like, I don't really care. I mean,
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that's very nice that Jen's been at the BMB helping you and been a
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really good friend to you. It seems like and it seems like you guys
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have a good relationship going on, and I hope you're eating each other's boxes
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and I hope you're happy. It's great. But I just think that marry
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with her stupid BnB. I'm just like, Okay, can we just admit
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that you're just actually moving out of Flagstaff? Because to me, her moving
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up her businesses to Parajuana, I'm like, that's just a long way of
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saying that she's just leaving. No, she's not leaving. I think she's
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not leaving Beatrice. She is. She's thinking about leaving, but she wants
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to keep the door open. She wants to preserve the perception that she's available.
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Should Cody ever want to come back around her way, so I don't
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think she's ready to actually leave him, and she takes great pains to tell
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people this, Yeah, that you know, I'm not leaving, and I
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hate it. I want to be with you. I'm here in this family.
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I'm trying really hard. She keeps on doing this, so I believe
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her. I think she's just going to start spending more of her time there,
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and over time she's gonna see, oh, I really don't want to
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go back, yeah to Flagstaff because the reality is she did not leave that
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rental until I think this year, so we're looking at early twenty twenty two.
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She stayed a whole another year before she left. Yeah, But that's
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what I'm saying. It's like that's the long way of her leaving. It's
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her moving a lot of her shit up there so she can spend more time
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up in Parijuan and not be in Flagstaff as much, but still have her
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house on her rental and everything. Like you said, in case Cody,
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for some grace of God wants to bang her again, which he won't.
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No, it's just like painful to me to watch Mary on this season,
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Like, yeah, she's getting more airtime than season seventeen, which is nice,
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it's nice to hear her talk more. But I'm like, good God,
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it's so sad. What's it going to take. I mean, it's
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just so sad to watch you continuously pine for fucking Cody and try to be
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best friends with Robin, who is literally the worst friend you could ever have.
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Throws you under the bus all the time, didn't invite you to second
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Christmas, didn't even tell you the kids were in town. This woman does
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not like you. She's using you. But like Mary doesn't have a Cody
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problem, Mary has a Mary problem. This is I think because of guilt,
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because she had the audacity to be catfished by that woman. I think
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she's ashamed. I think this is also it speaks to her terrible self worthy
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and how she sees herself. She's no longer the first wife, the legal
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wife. She's pretty much lost everything, and that means she's lost her identity
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or is in the process of losing her identity, and she's just not ready
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yet to fully let go. But obviously she does get there, but she
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has a problem inside of her. And so I'm hoping over the last year
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and a half, since we're filming these particular scenes. She's been in therapy,
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she's been reading all of those books that Christine had in her Mormon office
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about worthying up. That she's doing the work on herself to be happy,
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just in herself. You don't need anybody else to be happy, she says,
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having been married fifteen times myself and never been alone ever, You've always
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been with somebody, honey. I mean, okay, hey, honey.
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I got married the first time when I was eighteen years old, God to
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my own Sam Juan Wou, and then I got married again at in my
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late twenties. This is when I had my child, your wife, and
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we were together for fifteen years. Legally we were separated for writing four of
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those. We were tat for a very long time. And then as soon
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as I was free, honey, I tried to put myself out there.
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I was partying, I was traveling. I look so good. I showed
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you pictures, didn't I. I was dating and just having the time of
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my life, and then boom, locked down by my current husband and last
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husband. I'm not interested anymore. No, of course, a date.
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But I'm telling you, if something happened between my husband and I, it
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would not take long for some man to come snip an sniffing around. These
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would be like yes, like he's just waiting. Oh my god. So
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we learned a little bit about you're such a such a bit money about Jen,
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because I didn't really know how they became friends, because remember during the
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Catfish Mary brought a lot of people around to kind of give their side of
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what catfishing is and try to support her. So it was Jen one of
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those people. I can't remember. Honestly, I need to watch the Catfish
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seasons. I can't wait to get to those in our rewinds because sad,
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Oh my god, it's gonna be crazy. But I don't remember anything about
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Jen, to be honest. We be friend for twenty years. Yeah,
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for a long time. So when they moved to Vegas, Jen was in
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charge of pest control. She owned a pest control company, Murder for hire,
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that's right, And that's how she got to know Mary and they became
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fast friends. And they've been in each other's lives ever since. And she
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sure seems like a ride or die friend. Oh yeah, she seems like
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she's actually good for Mary and sweet and they do their fridays with friends on
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Instagram all the time. I never watch him either, because they're all just
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boring Instagram. Is it lularo stuff or is it just sometimes yeah and sometimes
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well sometimes they do Q and A, but they don't answer anything that's interesting.
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It's just like stupid stuff about the business and Instagram graphics that she's just
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regurgitating. But like Jen's always and those usually and is always hanging out with
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Mary. So that's great. But oh god, I hope I hope so
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too, just because I want Mary to be happy. But she does seem
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like a really good friend. I hope she's like behind the scenes giving Mary
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some really good advice and helping her to extricate herself from this dumpster fire of
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a polygamist marriage. Right. We learn that Mary wants to build a two
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car garage onto the B and B. She also wants to build a commercial
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kitchen, a commercial kitchen so that she can cook outside because she wants to
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have events. And I'm just thinking to myself, this is a I'm not
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having an event. No, has this BANDB? Like you need to renovate
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the BMB like she's living in luxury and Flagstaff huh? And this B and
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B the kitchen's terrible. It needs to be gutted. Yep, you need
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to update everything. It's also next to a bunch of horderhouses in that neighborhood,
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so it's like, why would anybody want to go out there? And
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then I'm just thinking about when she had those retreats that she was charging people
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six thousand dollars four or four thousand dollars if you didn't want to stay at
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the bmbing And I'm just like, you didn't have your kitchen ready then,
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because you got like really bad catering food. Yeah, right, isn't it.
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Didn't they get like some weird barbecue yeah, yep, or something with
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plastic utasks and paper plates and stuff Like I just can't. It's like she's
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got it's like her brain is too big for her actual vision. Like she's
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like thinking about all these ideas to do, but she's not going to actually
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do them. I just realized because I was thinking when she's say events,
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she's thinking like weddings or special events that she's talking about retreats. Yeah,
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she wants to have more retreats and she wants to have an appropriate kitchen.
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I see, I see, So that's I think she's got a really good
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business mind. Everyone is always saying that Janelle is the one that's great with
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money. This season we're learning that she's not. Everyone says that, you
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know, Janelle is a logical one. This season we're learning you're not really
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that logical. You put up with a lot of shit that you shouldn't have
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had to do, and you put your kids through a whole lot. Right.
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Meanwhile, I think it's Mary that has the business acumen, and she
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talks a little bit about the businesses that the Browns kept trying to get off
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the ground in previous years, like that fucking Jim Yeah, the real estate
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business, they were going to do, fundamental fitness, Yeah right, my
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Sister wives closet, which was a failure and is a failure no matter what
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anybody says. So the reason those things failed, Mary says is because it
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was always like decisions made by the group. And Christine kind of comes in
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with an intersticial and says, yeah, I mean it's fair to make decisions
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by committee, but like you don't get anything done no never, And we've
23:04
seen that in all of the earlier seasons and even in My Sister Wife's closet,
23:08
I mean, it's obvious it was all just because Robin wanted to do
23:11
it, and so the committee votes for it because they want to suck up
23:15
to Robin. But it never came anything of it. And didn't they talk
23:18
about My sister's Wife's Closet? I think they did, Yes, they did,
23:22
And didn't they mention how, like Robin Robin supposed to Robin should have
23:26
been in charge. There should have been one person who managed the project,
23:30
and everybody else kind of should have worked for that one person. Yeah,
23:33
And then I think Robin and her talking head talks about how she wanted it
23:37
to work, and I'm like, but you didn't do anything with it.
23:40
Well, I think she may have tried. I thought it was interesting when
23:42
she said that she wanted the My Sister Wife's Closet project to be away for
23:48
them to feel like a family. That kind of hearkens back to last episode
23:52
when who was it was it Janelle talking about how Robin or maybe it was
23:57
Mary talking about how Robin really never got the benefit of the big family and
24:02
the older kids and like a lot of what Robin has been trying to do
24:06
in a bad way. Yeah, but trying to do is just to recapture
24:10
the vibe of those first one or two years that she can't have with her
24:12
kids. And so maybe my sister wife's closet was her way to kind of
24:17
bring everybody together and do something like that, even though she never did anything
24:19
with it, though, I mean, maybe she could have had the She
24:22
doesn't execute on anything. No, this woman doesn't work. She doesn't have
24:26
a good work ethic. She's not raccoons like we are. Okay, she
24:30
doesn't jump in a dumpster and turn trash into gold. Honey. She's not
24:33
an entrepreneur. She fancies herself as one. Yeah, so yeah, I
24:38
thought that. I thought that was pretty interesting to hear. And because we're
24:41
wondering, like, what happened to your passion for real estate in season one,
24:45
and all of a sudden, now we've got a passion for a jim.
24:48
Yeah. After you guys go and work out with that belligerent personal training,
24:52
and then what's the next thing going to be. I know Mary's going
24:55
to want to go to college at some point, and it's going to be
24:57
Robin who basically talks her out of it because it feels like she's going to
25:03
leave the family, which is so stupid and manipulative. I've never seen that.
25:06
I've just heard that. Yeah, no, that's what she says to
25:08
her. I remember those episodes. It's just really fucked up. And that's
25:11
why Mary and this episode is saying, you know, I haven't told Robin
25:15
yet that I'm planning on moving my business up here, because she's going to
25:19
think that I'm leaving and I have to reiterate to her constantly that I'm not
25:22
leaving. And I'm like, that's kind of a red flag, dude,
25:26
Yeah, a bit of a red flag. And I don't know why you
25:29
even entertain a friendship with this woman in the first place. Like, I
25:33
think they're using each other. I think she wants she's using her. Yes,
25:37
I think that she wants to get back together with Cody. I think
25:41
it's through Robin that she can spend time with their family and ultimately Cody.
25:45
If it weren't for Robin and that relationship, she would never see Cody and
25:51
or their family. So I think to some degree, she's using Robin and
25:55
also hoping that this thinking fucking get together. Yeah, but I think Robin
25:57
is using Mary way more and is way more underhanded and puppet master about it
26:03
personally, that's what I think interesting theory. Yes, well, let's move
26:07
on now because we've got to get to Chanelle and Cody. But before we
26:11
do, why don't we take a little bit of a break keep. We
26:14
gotta pay the bills, girl, Yeah, to run some ads, so
26:17
we will be back on the other side to continue the conversation about fools or
26:21
wives. Okay, we're back talking about sister wives, and we find ourselves
26:27
interestingly returning to Salsa Brava, which is where he had his post break up
26:33
conversation with Christine. And I'm like, Okay, what's production doing here right?
26:37
Are they renting out Salsa Brava for all of these divorce and marriage negotiations?
26:41
What's happening. I'm like, there's other restaurants, But I'm like,
26:45
this is also during covide, so I'm thinking maybe TLSE had to rent out
26:48
Salsa Brava because there's nobody else really in there besides the workers, and they're
26:52
all wearing masks. I'm like, so maybe it's that. But this is
26:56
also like late twenty twenty one, early twenty twenty two. It's early twenty
27:00
so I think a lot of the restrictions were kind of lifting at this point.
27:03
And I was in Arizona. Were you in Arizona? Yeah, and
27:06
it was pretty laxed. Yeah. So I'm just gonna say, but I
27:10
don't know what flagstaff. I was not up there, so I don't know.
27:11
But why Salsa Brava again, Like you couldn't take her to Fat Olives
27:15
or anywhere else, any literally anywhere else. We had to go to Salsa
27:19
Brava. Well, we are at Salsa Brava and Janelle gets there a little
27:22
bit early. She's worried about this appointment, yeah, that she has with
27:26
Cody because she has not spoken to him since they're big fucking fight, which
27:30
was I think early December when she went out to talk about Christmas. She
27:34
gets there before Cody does, and then Cody walks in like just dancing on
27:38
in. Yeah, so much good vibes and good energy, like totally expecting
27:44
I think, to sit down at the table, reconnect, just brush everything
27:48
under the rug and move on with their relationship according to what he wants.
27:52
Oh, if that's what he's expecting. Yeah. He comes up to her
27:55
and he's like, so you're not going to give me a hug and she's
27:57
like okay, well yeah, and gives her a hug, and he's like,
28:00
smiling, Chipper. It's super weird. Isn't this a thing that narcissists
28:04
do though, Like where they blow up and they're they're crazy, but then
28:08
they act like the next day or whatever, things are fine. Or isn't
28:11
it like love bombing or something? Yeah, I mean, I don't think
28:15
what we're seeing is it's not love bombing, because he can't be fucked to
28:19
love bomb and give her any attention and love. But maybe maybe I think
28:25
he's trying to set the tone, but she's not going for it now.
28:29
And you can always tell Beatrice when a woman is done. And the thing
28:32
about women being done is they will tell you over and over and over again
28:37
before they bounced. They will give you every opportunity if they actually love you,
28:41
Yeah, they will give you every opportunity to fix it, to do
28:44
the right thing, to make accommodations. And so I have no doubt.
28:48
But I mean, Janelle is so passive and she's just like, she's so
28:52
good with so little. Maybe she hasn't prepared him for this moment. But
28:56
what I'm looking at, Janelle, what I'm seeing is an who looks done
29:00
to me. Oh yeah, after that fight, She's like, I don't
29:03
think we can ever come back from this, Like that was really terrible.
29:07
I don't know what to expect with this meeting with Cody, Like she is
29:11
over it. And we see even in the preview when she's talking with Christine
29:14
about how she don't even want to be married nomo. And so she sits
29:17
down with Cody and she's just like awkward, it's super weird, like the
29:22
tents, like Cody is looking at her to kind of guide the conversation,
29:26
and she's just like she I think. She kind of starts right out of
29:30
the gate by saying, yeah, I kind of feel like we need to
29:33
remain separated, yeah, which he is surprised to hear, Like you can
29:38
see it on his face. He's shocked. He's like really, I'm like,
29:41
guess really, dude, you slam the door and she said, fuck
29:45
you. That was the last time you guys talked? Yeah, Like how
29:49
much of an emotional cripple do you have to be, especially if you love
29:53
a wife? I mean, and I'm not going to get too ahead of
29:56
myself because I just I feel like Cody actually really does love to know how
30:00
much of an emotional cripple do you have to be to have such a turbo
30:02
terrible fight on camera. Ye, and leave in that kind of energy and
30:07
then not do anything, not do anything to talk to her in the interim,
30:14
or to try and make up, or to try and make it right,
30:15
or to apologize even if you think that your points are valid, Like
30:19
apologize for screaming and pointing at the camera at all of us, like we
30:23
did something wrong. Apologize for cutting her off over and over again. Apologize
30:27
for being an asshole in your delivery. Yep, he didn't do any of
30:30
that. No, And he says in this talking head he's like, I
30:33
feel ashamed for how I acted and I was really really angry, and I
30:37
was triggered and I shouldn't be triggered and I'm learning how to not be triggered.
30:41
And like he's saying all these things and is talking head, but he's
30:44
not saying any of this ship to Janelle. Why it's so weird to me,
30:48
But he's so like, so self centered and so narcissistic that I think
30:52
when he's coming into the Salsa Brava and acting all tripper, he's really doing
30:56
that to kind of manipulate Janelle and back into his whim because she is so
31:00
passive, and it seems like they've been doing this their whole entire marriage.
31:03
Every time he does something shitty and she expresses herself for it, they've either
31:08
fight, they separate, because he says they've separated multiple times before and their
31:14
relationship, but then they always come back, and it's probably because he comes
31:18
to her like this. He tries to be sweet, he tries to be
31:19
genial, and then she falls for it. But this time she's like falling.
31:25
I don't want to do it. Well, he kind of brought up
31:26
a good point, and he said that the previous times that they separated,
31:30
he thought it was because Janelle had issues with the other wives, which she
31:34
did have those issues, but this time she wants to be separated because of
31:38
me. Maybe it's about me. Yeah, Hi, hello, I'm the
31:42
problem. It's me. Serious kind of coming into that consciousness about it,
31:48
but he's still not accepting it. He's shocked. Yeah, and she brings
31:52
up Savannah. You know, like you haven't even called Savannah. Nothing for
31:56
Christmas, no present for Christmas, no conversation for Christmas, and you would
32:00
have thought that he would have prepared for that, because as a parent,
32:02
if I hadn't seen my child for six weeks, I know that's the first
32:06
thing my partner is going to bring up. But they're gonna say, what
32:07
the fuck are you doing? Why aren't you taking care of your child?
32:10
Yeah, so why wasn't he prepared for her to call him on the carpet
32:15
about Savannah? I don't think he thought anything was bad about that because last
32:20
episode he was saying, well, I will bring her Christmas. It'll be
32:22
late, but I will bring it to her. So to him, that's
32:25
good enough and that's fine and that Savannah should understand that. But like in
32:30
this moment with Janelle confronting him on that, he's straight up stammers and stutters
32:34
and it's just like, oh, so beautiful, it's so good. And
32:39
it's because Janelle's probably the only one that can really get through to him with
32:44
those kinds of things where she can call him out on his bullshit and he's
32:46
like, oh, you're right because he did her. But he didn't even
32:51
say that in the moment. Did he try to make excuses? Well,
32:53
I mean, like I've been working, I'm super busy. What are you
32:55
working at what are you doing? Gun shit, what are you doing?
32:58
You're not doing anything? Are you making money? Yeah? But I just
33:01
I felt like it was such a good zinger, and he knows. I
33:06
think he's very embarrassed and cringed out because it's happening on camera. Yeah,
33:14
Like, why couldn't you have asked that on the phone. Why are we
33:16
doing it? Why are we filming this When I'm going to have to say
33:20
something people aren't going to understand. Yeah, this is why he stammers,
33:22
because it's happening on camera. Baby, I'm sorry. All of this shit's
33:27
been happening on camera, And like we saw it last couple episodes that you
33:30
didn't talk to Savannah, So yeah, it's gonna have to be brought up.
33:32
And we've said this before on the pod that Janelle's redline has always been
33:37
her kids. You fuck with her kids, she's out of there, She's
33:40
done, and I should know that. There's like literally no excuse for no.
33:45
But he gets on the couch and he says that the reason he's not
33:51
having relationships with the children is because the wives have kicked him out of their
33:57
homes. So Christine kicked him out pack to shit. Janelle kicked him out
34:00
of that apartment, and so that's why he can't have a relationship with his
34:05
children. I'm like, are you dumb? Yes? Are you so fucking
34:07
dumb? Yes? He is? Be for real, that's like what he
34:10
actually thinks, and he thinks that that's like a good enough excuse. I'm
34:14
like, so you're going to punish your kids for your bad relationships with your
34:17
wives? Really, Like, that's what we're going to do here. That's
34:21
his excuse. That's the best that he can come up with. So incredibly
34:25
embarrassing, And I was just really taken when I'm watching this scene because over
34:30
and over again, even though Janelle moves the conversation to different areas, he
34:34
just keeps bitching about Christine. I'm like, you are fixated on Christine,
34:40
like you have a problem, because it ruined his ego. I think I
34:44
think he never expected her to leave, even though she was probably blatantly telling
34:49
him that, like she probably was, like I have no doubt that she
34:52
was. Yes, she's an aries, like she's not going to just sweep
34:54
things under the rug. I know she was telling him for years, probably
34:58
that they were having problems and they needed counseling or leave. Yes, and
35:01
he's just so blindside. But I think he always thought she's the abub princess.
35:07
We had a good run. I know we're not intimate anymore, but
35:09
she's never going to leave because she's been loyal to me this whole time.
35:13
Do you think that he thought that she couldn't get anybody else? Do you
35:16
think that he thought that nobody would want her? I think he said shit
35:22
like that to her, like I wouldn't after the last couple of years,
35:23
like during COVID and even before, like I wouldn't put it past him to
35:27
say super cruel things. He's obviously saying it behind the wives backs yea.
35:31
And wasn't he just talking a few episodes ago or I don't even maybe it
35:35
was last season at some point about how it is not okay to talk with
35:39
wives about the other wives And here we see him on camera talking about Christine
35:45
again yep. And then this is where Janelle pipes in and is like,
35:49
he's literally been telling me for years that he was not attracted to Christine,
35:52
So I have no idea. Every time he says that, I'm shocked that
35:57
he feels like he was blindsided by Christine leaving. She's even shocked by it,
36:02
Like, hello, have you not been around this whole entire time?
36:06
Right? And she also says, and it's been months since Christine has left,
36:09
and you're still fucking fixated on it, and you're still bitching about it,
36:13
and this is all you ever talk about. And now you're comparing our
36:15
marriage, which is our single marriage. You're comparing our marriage to Christine's marriage,
36:21
and you're comparing me to Christine. And how I'm handling things, I
36:23
would be super frustrated. And I think Janelle handled herself really well. She
36:29
did not activate Holy Spirit activate, She did not escalate, she didn't change
36:34
the tone and the rhythm of her voice. She was like super controlled.
36:37
He started to get activated, especially when she brought up like him paying attention
36:42
to the littles and him kind of always focusing on Robin and her kids and
36:47
how her children felt comparatively speaking. He started to get upset and he started
36:52
to go into his same loop of a narrative about apologies and about nobody following
36:59
my rules and nobody respecting me. And she's like, we shouldn't talk about
37:01
that yet. This is the kind of thing we should probably talk about in
37:05
counseling, so she seems super open to counseling. Yeah, in a way.
37:09
But then at the end of this she's just like, yeah, I'm
37:12
not going to work for it though if he doesn't even want it, Like
37:14
why am I going to do that? Well, because why bother? Because
37:16
he probably says all the right things right Like he probably says, yeah,
37:20
I'm open in counseling, like, let's work on things, and then never
37:22
actually does it, never actually wants to make the effort with Janelle. He
37:25
just wants things to go back to the status quo so he can still slip
37:30
in a lot of the money that she's making into their right family account dab
37:34
sark and live his happy life, which he refers to as his resources.
37:37
Yes, his resources is the family LLC where everybody pulls their money. All
37:44
of the TLC money goes into that LLC, which I think he is the
37:47
fiduciary of which again I say, somebody do a forensic investigation. Let's have
37:52
a look, let's do an audit to see how he has behaved as a
37:57
fiduciary and whether he has misappropriated created any funds. Where was I going with
38:01
that? Resources. So he's but he's referring to family resources as his resource.
38:12
And I was just like, Jesus, crackers, guy, you are
38:14
out of touch, you really, and you really think you're the shit.
38:16
Don't you really think you got ship all together? Don't you? Oh yeah,
38:20
he's got like a little four inch or dick and he thinks it's so
38:23
hot with his picks and his beer belly. Just fucking Everybody's like, I'm
38:28
so fucking desirable. I'm so fucking all these women love me. Well,
38:34
that's what did you think though? When she was talking about how things have
38:37
changed, et cetera. And he goes back to Vegas and he talks about,
38:43
like, let's get real, let's talk about how it really was in
38:45
Vegas. I mean, because COVID sucked and obviously we all fell apart during
38:47
COVID, But back in Vegas, you, I mean, we kind of
38:51
had a thing. We had our own little renaissance. Yeah, I was
38:53
writing you poetry, bit, I was slaying the dick for a bit.
38:57
I was following you around like a puppy dog. And you know what,
39:00
I believe it a hundred. My Janelle is a Taurus queen, just like
39:06
she's essensual, she's sucking sexy, she's good at the art of sex.
39:09
And I think if she is connected to and loves Cody Brown, I think
39:15
that bedroom. I think that bedroom was rocking, so I think the bed
39:20
was moving. God, I think he Why would he be attracted? Okay,
39:23
let's talk about this. Why would he be so attracted and activated with
39:30
Janelle but not Christine? I don't know. I don't understand that because he
39:35
obviously was attracted to Christine if he had six kids with her, I mean,
39:38
I do. He might have been thinking about Robin. Maybe I don't
39:42
know. I don't know, though, Maybe he's thinking about Janelle. Maybe
39:45
Robin, maybe Janelle. It doesn't make sense. I think, Like,
39:49
to me, Christine is objectively the prettiest wife. Agreed. I think that
39:53
she's gotten up and down in her weight, as we all do. But
39:57
I think she's always been really pretty, bubbly. Maybe he lost his heart
40:00
on for her because she bitched all the time about Maybe she was constantly complaining
40:05
and he just couldn't do it anymore. Yeah, but I'm like, why
40:07
would you follow Janelle around and not Christine? Right? They're both pretty,
40:10
they're both you know, I don't know. It just doesn't make sense to
40:14
me. Well, it goes back to my theory of like him and Janelle's
40:16
relationship. I think they have the most compatible relationship in terms of like intelligence,
40:22
and they talk a lot and they're best friends. Well, I mean
40:25
intelligence, you use that like emotional intelligence, be right, because she does
40:30
call him out on the stuff, and she kind of holds him accountable for
40:35
things a little bit. I mean, but she is pretty passive. I
40:37
don't know the way that they talk to each other is different than when he
40:42
talks to Mary, when he talks to Robin even, and when he talked
40:45
to Christine. He didn't really care about anything Christine had writing. But maybe
40:49
they were fucking a lot in Vegas. I think so. I mean when
40:52
she says, I miss you and my bed Mama, Papa and Papa have
40:59
some special six in that fifth will kick the dogs. That's been money because
41:05
I'm coming home six packs and my curls. Honey, you don't feel those
41:12
curls. Jesus, let's stop talking about that. At some point, Janelle
41:15
asks Cody whether he still wants polyamory, and here he goes into his atlas.
41:21
Fucking bullshit. I was scaring the world of my shoulder. I was
41:24
atlas. I was atlas, and when I was tired because I had been
41:29
working so hard all that time, wasted an ever the kidding, and when
41:34
I became cynical because of you bitches, you fucking hold it's all your fault.
41:37
I just couldn't take it anymore. Yeah, I had to let the
41:40
world go. I had to set it down just for a moment, rug
41:44
it off. But did any of you bitches pick it up? No,
41:46
you lazy bitches. Did any of you try to compensate for what I could
41:50
no longer do? Because I have been through so much favorite favoriting Robbins and
41:55
fucking Robin and being in the McMansion while you're living in your dormitory apartment and
42:00
or in a trailer. But like, did anything about me? Why didn't
42:04
you guys compensate for what it could no longer do? And I'm like,
42:07
shush, shush, shush, shut up up, shut up. You can't
42:13
possibly believe the ship that you're spewing, Odie Brown, It doesn't even take
42:16
any sense. He's literally blaming the destruction of the family on the wives.
42:21
Of course, it's so crazy to me, like, that's why I don't
42:24
see the kids, That's why I don't hang out with any of you bitches,
42:28
because I don't care about any of you wives at all. And you
42:30
know, I don't care about reconciling with Mary because I don't think we can
42:34
ever reconcile. But like Janelle Christine, they should hold up the world right,
42:38
They should have should have listened to me my rules, I mean Robin's
42:43
rules, I mean my rules. Loyalty, obedience is better than sacs.
42:45
Like he's just nuts, He's nuts, and I'm sorry, Like somebody needs
42:51
to say this out loud to him. It's not okay to abandon your family
42:53
at any juncture in the relationship. It's not okay to set the world down,
43:00
which I think he means his responsibilities, his focus, his attention,
43:04
his energy, and his resources. It's not okay to just stop that one
43:07
day, yeah, for two years or three years, or however long it
43:09
was, and then expect everybody to be okay with it. That's just not
43:12
how life works. Cody Brown, you big dumb idiot. I know.
43:15
And I think maybe this might be a narrative that Robin conjured up for him
43:20
because she always defends him this way too. She's always like, Cody has
43:23
so much responsibility. He just has to take on so much and it's just
43:28
really overwhelming for him, and this divorce has just been really hard, Like
43:30
she always defends him like that, And so I think that's totally a narrative
43:35
he adopted from her. Somebody needs to take care of him, We need
43:37
to support him, we need to step up and take the torch. Dude,
43:42
bitch, No, no, Yeah, So I think you're right.
43:45
She's probably the one who's pumping him full of this information and also creating a
43:51
resentment in him because the other wives aren't doing what he wants to do when
43:53
he's no longer doing what he's supposed to do as a man and as a
43:57
husband. Right. I have no sympathy for you what soever. You're losing
44:00
it all this season and in this moment, in this life because you walked
44:04
away, neglected your family, neglected your kids and your wives. Yep,
44:07
and this is what you get. And you expected them all to be okay
44:09
with it, like you expected all of the older kids to be okay with
44:13
you not talking to them ever, and the wives to be okay with no
44:15
intimacy and no time with you at all, right, and you just think
44:21
it's just because of COVID, and it's it's not. It's not. And
44:23
that's why when Janelle in this conversation, she's like, yeah, we did
44:27
have good times in Vegas, but you keep using that to justify the shit
44:30
right now, like that right, Vegas was ten years ago, right,
44:34
Like, stop talking about what happened. Then it's shitty right now, and
44:37
it's been shitty for several years for a while. Yeah, and before Flagstaff
44:40
it's been sty it's been getting shitty, and now it's the shittiest it's ever
44:45
been. Baby Ever, this is when he brings up the concept in the
44:47
term of plural monogamy, Yeah, which is really weird, which is this
44:52
idea that the entire family doesn't live together as one unit as a family,
44:58
not necessarily in the same house but like in like connected as as a family
45:01
with all the different wives and him, but rather there's just separate houses and
45:07
they have monogamy in the individual house. So when he's with Janelle, he's
45:09
just with Janelle. When he's with Christine, it's just Christine. When he's
45:13
with Robin, it's just Robin and the others don't ever intersect. Yeah,
45:17
And Janelle says that this is a term that Cody coined up and she's never
45:22
really heard about it before. But he's trying to say that Janelle was the
45:27
one that came up with plural monogamy, and I'm just like, well,
45:30
you guys have really kind of been living that for many, many years right
45:34
now, ever since you guys got out of that Utah Lee High House where
45:37
you were all together and you were acting as a cohesive giant family got the
45:42
loan for Yeah, she had to back all of that up and still doesn't
45:45
have any assets code right right, But when they had that, they said
45:50
it was magical and it was perfect, and it would have been really great
45:52
if they could have gotten a house with another fourth edition and Robin could have
45:57
been involved, and then maybe she could have had her family dream and she
46:00
could have still been the favorite, but he still would have been involved with
46:02
all of the wives, and the wives probably would have stuck around, I
46:07
think so, honestly, I think Janelle would stick around, would have stuck
46:12
around if he didn't bring the kids into it. If he didn't when he
46:15
set the world down as Atlas, if that didn't include her kids, and
46:20
it was just her Like, he didn't come around in her bed, right,
46:22
didn't spend that time with her date nights or talking, but he was
46:25
still attentive to his children. I think we wouldn't be having this conversation.
46:29
I think Janelle have been like, all right, that's fine, I'll make
46:30
do because she loves her independence, which he keeps trying to weaponize against her.
46:35
Yeah, previously, heretofore. You know, you've needed her to be
46:38
independent, You've needed her to not need a lot from you, exactly.
46:42
You can go continue to get your pencil wet with Robin and hang out with
46:45
her kids and only her kids. But now that you fucked around and found
46:49
out with Janelle's children, here we are. We're gonna stay separated, my
46:52
guy, yep, because I have to figure things out. And he even
46:55
asks her, almost pleading, He's like, well, why can't we be
46:59
together and try and figure things out? Why can't we work on it together?
47:00
And she's like, no, I need my space away from you so
47:04
I can figure out how I can actually communicate my thoughts. I'm like,
47:07
that's kind of a big deal right there, that you can't even have that
47:10
communication with Cody because he just steam rolls over you. That's what that says
47:15
to me. Yeah, right, which is sad. He takes up all
47:17
the space and the air in the room. It's about Cody Brown. It's
47:21
about what Cody Brown wants to do. Her dogs can't be in the space.
47:24
It's got to be a specific, in particular way. He's used to
47:28
his big mansion. He likes to go home to his big bed. He's
47:30
making a sacrifice so much time waste in order to go over to your dormitory
47:36
apartment and sleep in your bed. And he lets you know that. I'm
47:38
sure he lets her know that. Oh yeah. It's really freaking sad and
47:43
makes her feel bad for it every time. And you know he's trying to
47:45
get her on his page, yeah, to stay together because he wants he
47:50
doesn't he wants the money. I don't know. Don't you think he wants
47:52
her? I don't know. It doesn't seem like he does. I think
47:57
he wants her when it's convenient to want her, but I don't think he
48:00
wants her sexually anymore. Well. I think this is kind of the point
48:05
where she brings up the fact that she doesn't have anything like she doesn't have
48:08
any assets. And this is where he responds to that on the couch,
48:14
because we don't have conversations face to face or somebody could actually counter your argument,
48:16
we could kind of flesh this out in the moment, because of course
48:20
not it's the Browns. But he counters this and he says, well,
48:22
you know, I have to have a house for my kids. You know,
48:25
yes, I focus on my little babies. I've got to take care
48:29
of them, and we're going to need that house for fifteen years. At
48:31
this time, we know that Ariella is five or six years old, which
48:36
means he's planning to house Ariella and his kids until she's twenty one, which
48:42
flies in the face of what he said about Gabe and Garrison having to get
48:45
out of the house at eighteen years old. Is that because they're boys?
48:47
I don't know, I don't know what it is. And I'm like,
48:51
so you want to house your children for that long? But then you also,
48:54
in the same breath talk about how you tend to give your older children
49:00
like you, you aren't as attentive with them, You're not as involved in
49:04
their lives when they're older, because you give them everything when they're young,
49:08
and then once they grow up, you're like, nah, whatever, whatever,
49:12
you know, they don't need me as much. And that's true once
49:14
you become an adult school and you have your own families. We've got Logan
49:16
out of here, and we've got Hunter out here living productive, great lives
49:21
and other kids as well. Like, they're not going to need you like
49:22
that. But it's not that they don't need you, which Mary addresses.
49:25
Yeah, Mary says, you know, Cody's a great dad. He does
49:29
tend to fawn over the littles, and he needs to understand that the older
49:34
kids need his love too. But because Janelle had the audacity to bring up
49:37
the fact that she has nothing right and which he has already said, that
49:42
she has as many assets as he does, which she does not. It's
49:45
all wrapped up in the land which his name is on and also Robin's name
49:47
is on. But because she brings this up as a valid fucking point,
49:52
yeah, about why she's worried and she's got to think about this. This
49:54
is where he says, Oh, I get it. So it's not about
49:58
wanting to be with me, It's not about wanting to solvage our marriage.
50:01
You just want my resources and what I can give to you. Yeah,
50:05
what I can provide to you. And I'm like, dude, if you
50:07
want to be the fucking patriarch, that's literally the definition of what a patriarch
50:12
is supposed to do provide, And like, isn't it a tenant of polygamy
50:15
too, is like how the husbands can kind of provide for the women.
50:19
I know, the women are supposed to be kind of self sufficient in a
50:22
certain way, like they're supposed to take care of a lot of the kids
50:24
and homeschool and all that stuff, But like, isn't that the whole point
50:28
of polygamy is like the man has to take care of all of the wives,
50:31
Like it is literally your responsibility, my guy, to make sure that
50:36
Janelle is financially covered for And she's fucking not to know she's not the only
50:40
reason why Marry and Christine are is because they made their own businesses and Janelle
50:45
has been trying to but she still doesn't have any assets. She still doesn't
50:49
have a house, not at this time she doesn't. So I mean we
50:52
know that she has since blown up in the world of Plexus and she's doing
50:57
really, really well. And Queen I would imagine make a good deal of
51:00
money. And so she's starting to build something up for herself. And we
51:02
also know that this past summer she and Cody Brown paid off their short shared
51:07
plot of land, so she would have probably had to bring some money to
51:10
that, I would imagine. Yeah, but like it's completely fair for her
51:14
to be like, you know, you have everything. You're sitting in a
51:16
mansion, you have these beautiful fucking paintings, you bought your kids scooters,
51:20
like all the money you are spending on this family, and you don't even
51:22
call Savannah and I don't have anything, and I'm really fucking worried. That's
51:28
objectively a valid point, and you should if you want to be with a
51:31
woman, and if this has been your deal the entire time, then you
51:35
should take great pains to make sure she knows, don't worry about a baby.
51:37
We're gonna make sure you have a house. We're going to make sure
51:39
we build on the land. You're going to get everything you need. I
51:43
would never do that too, But you know what the problem is, Beatrice.
51:45
He would do that to her, He would leave her out in the
51:47
cold. Oh too, He's going to try and do that. Yeah,
51:51
one is going to do that, and he's going to use that as another
51:54
excuse of like, well, you wanted to leave me, you didn't respect
51:58
me, you didn't you weren't loyal to me, weren't a good wife to
52:00
me or a good sister wife to Robin especially, So yeah, fuck you,
52:06
That's exactly what he's gonna do. He's gonna try to do that.
52:07
But I mean, Janelle's got taurus energy. She's a bull baby, and
52:12
bolls have horns. And even if a lawsuit would not prevail against Cody Brown
52:17
a forensic examination of the funds dragging his ass through court four years and making
52:23
him paid to do that, he does not want any of that business at
52:27
all coming in his way. It is in his best interest to make sure
52:30
that Janelle gets her fair share. Which again, there was a rumor that
52:35
was floated around a little while ago that around this time Cody and Robin.
52:39
So early twenty twenty two, Cody and Robin took a loan out against their
52:45
McMansion. They drew out one twenty to one hundred and forty thousand dollars,
52:49
which is approximately people think the amount that Janelle contributed to Robin and Cody so
52:53
that they could get the house. So it feels to me like, and
52:57
I don't think we're going to see this in the show. I wish because
53:00
these Browns can't tell the truth and if their life depends on them, But
53:02
it feels to me like Janelle said, give me my money back, Like
53:06
that's the least that you can do is to give me the money back that
53:08
I gave you to get this house when I don't have a house. And
53:12
I think they actually did it. I think you're probably right about that.
53:15
I was actually going to mention that loan. I forgot that it was a
53:17
loan from their house, equity and everything. So maybe that is what he
53:22
did, maybe after she started bringing up all of this stuff of like I
53:25
have no assets and she's putting it on TV. It's a film, so
53:29
like that's a big deo Cody. It makes you look really really really really
53:34
bad. It makes Robin look really really really really bad, especially since they
53:37
don't go on social media and like try to defend themselves like Olivia Plath talk
53:44
about that, but like he doesn't even say anything or try to defend it,
53:46
so he knows, yeah, he knows she's right, and he knows
53:51
it's wrong. Yeah, I don't know. There's like this small fractional part
53:55
of me that thinks Cody does want to make sure that the ladies get something.
54:02
I mean, I think it's probably more Robin who's over there wanting all
54:06
the resources and wanting all of the money. I think Cody has always said,
54:09
like, if you want to go, you can go. That's nothing's
54:12
gonna you know, keep you here if you don't want to be here.
54:15
When Christine asked for the proceeds of her house and he could have Kreity pass,
54:19
like he ultimately agreed to it because he had to. Probably yeah,
54:22
he had no legal standing or a stake in that house. But like I
54:25
want to believe that he wants to give Janelle her fair share for her fresh
54:30
start in life. But I mean that's probably being me being naive because he's
54:36
showing us who he is right over and over season after season, He's showing
54:40
us exactly who he is. Well, maybe the old Cody would have done
54:44
that. Like maybe that's what you're picking up on, is Like I think
54:46
there really was a major shift with Cody when Robin came into the picture.
54:51
I don't think he was always this terrible No, I just don't see it.
54:54
I mean, with how wonderful he was to all of the wives,
54:58
they all stayed for this long a reason. There was something that they were
55:00
holding onto, which was a Cody that used to be okay, like it,
55:07
used to be kind of attentive to them, used to be a good
55:08
dad, used to be nice and caring and not this crazy manisphere, red
55:14
pilled, angry, narcissist, small, napoleonic, abusive. Yeah, right,
55:20
like before the show, before Robin. I think it was magical to
55:24
them, and I think Christmases were beautiful. I think they worked together for
55:28
the children. I think they had a well oiled machine. And it all
55:31
fell apart because of Robin and because of the fame. And now that's all
55:35
Cody really wants because his biggest fear is poverty. Yea, So he wants
55:38
to hold on to the fame. He wants to hold on to this show.
55:43
Which, by the way, if you want to do that, Cody
55:44
Brown, get you another wife. Make sure she's young and pretty. We
55:46
would love to watch Columbia the Raccoons would love to see that. But like
55:52
that's what he's interested in, that's what he's feeling it here in this conversation,
55:55
because he's feeling and he has to feel the cords. She is unhooking
56:00
herself from his bullshit. She is on her way out. Believe me.
56:04
He feels that and he knows that. And what does that mean for the
56:07
show? What does that mean for his money? Because Christina has already gone.
56:10
I don't get her money. Mary is going to be leaving. He
56:14
doesn't want Mary. But I wonder if she's still contributing to the family funds.
56:16
I bet she is stupid, maybe just her TALC stuff, but I
56:21
wouldn't be a bit surprised if she still was. And now he's feeling,
56:23
Oh, now Janelle's going to go. Then it really is going to be
56:25
about me supporting my wife and my family and paying for the McMansion because why
56:30
would Talc stay around. I feel like this is going to throw him into
56:34
a spiral of panic. And you know what, I love to live it
56:37
is a love a love it. Oh Okay, that was essentially the conversation.
56:45
I thought it was pretty interesting, very eye opening. I'm wondering what's
56:51
going to kind of push Janelle over the edge, because next week we see
56:53
her tell Christine that she doesn't think she wants to be married anymore. And
56:59
Christine looks shot and she's trying to hide her smile. Oh yeah, she's
57:01
so happy. Is uh So, I'm wondering what happened. Maybe she's thought
57:07
about it. Maybe he doesn't want to go to counseling, maybe therapy is
57:10
not going to happen. And she's like, okay, then if you're not
57:13
going to work for it yet, I'm not going to work for it,
57:15
why would I do that? Well? And they're so disconnected, I mean,
57:17
she says this in her talking head. It's like everything she says,
57:21
he has an opposite interpretation of it because he's so fucking crazy and he's listening
57:25
to all these narratives that Robin is spoon fitting, is spoon feeding him,
57:30
and he just thinks that that's the truth. He's not grounded in this family
57:36
and he hasn't been for a long time. No, he doesn't know what's
57:37
happening. We also see in the preview Mary is telling Robin that there is
57:43
simply no question that Cody doesn't want her. Now, I think we're going
57:46
to see Robin saying, well, there's always a chance, So you're telling
57:50
me, there's a chance she wants Mary to stay there because again, she
57:53
needs to use Mary. She also probably wants to continue to get the resources
57:58
from Mary. But Mary's like, like, don't lie to me, right,
58:00
don't piss on me and tell me it's raining, Like Cody doesn't want
58:04
me, and you know it. We'll see what Robin has to say to
58:07
that. We do see her in a talking head crying, essentially wanting to
58:12
beg Mary to stay because without Mary she has absolutely nobody. It's so pathetic.
58:17
And then we see Cody saying that he does not want to break up
58:21
with Janelle and Christine responding saying, yeah, he just likes to string people
58:23
along. Yes, that's what he likes to do. Well, yeah,
58:27
we're seeing it with Mary, we saw it with Christine, now we're seeing
58:30
it with Janelle. He is totally that type of person. He doesn't want
58:34
to be the person that breaks it off. He wants people to break it
58:36
off with him. Yep, because he doesn't want to take that responsibility on,
58:39
hence him being a coward just as Christine called him out to be.
58:45
Yes, we love to hear it. Yeah, so good episode. Yeah,
58:51
kind of boring a little boring. I mean, I love these conversations
58:53
about marriage and again, even though Mary's stuff was boring, I was learning
58:55
a little bit about the family business style. Yeah, where the coins are
58:59
coming from, and what she wants to do to kind of secure her future,
59:02
which I am in full supportive. But yeah, I thought it was
59:06
a good episode. It was a lot of fun. Is there anything else
59:08
you want to talk about in this episode that we didn't cover? No?
59:12
Really, I am liking the honesty that we're seeing a little bit from Christine
59:15
Anne, from Janelle, like the snarky comments, the more genuine responses to
59:21
things, then listening to Cody and in their talking heads and saying that it's
59:23
all bullshit. Like, I'm liking that. I want that from Mary.
59:28
Yes, I want more of that from Mary. We need that damn to
59:30
break. Please, we need that watershed moment where she just starts to open
59:35
her mouth and tell us the truth. Now, you were on vacation,
59:37
But did you hear about the kerfuffle with Gwen? No? So Gwen hasn't
59:42
posted I think to Patreon and or just certainly to YouTube for like over a
59:45
month. Oh wow, she's taking a bit of a break. She came
59:47
back to do a review, and as she was reviewing, and I'm not
59:52
sure exactly what episode that it was, it was probably last week's because Janelle
59:55
asked her not to review the episode with the big fight, and so she
1:00:00
honored that. So she comes back and her vibe about Christine was a little
1:00:06
off, and she said a few things of interest, and I can't remember
1:00:10
the exact context in the conversation, but essentially she said that Christine was performing
1:00:17
like she was. Some of what she's doing what we're seeing this season is
1:00:22
acting. Whoa yeah. She also said that nobody really knows who Cody and
1:00:28
Christine were when the camera wasn't on, and that what she said, it
1:00:35
wasn't Cody or Christine that parented her, it was Tumblr. Whoa yeah.
1:00:39
She made some kind of interesting comments about Christine, leading people in the community,
1:00:45
certainly on reddits, to wonder what the fuck is going on, and
1:00:49
they're speculating that maybe Christine is continuing to invite Peyton, because of course she's
1:00:54
had an engagement party, she's about to get married. The Christmas that we
1:00:59
just watched from twenty twenty one, Gwen was not at either house. She
1:01:02
said, neither Christine nor Cody invited her to Christmas, although she had a
1:01:07
preplanned trip to California anyway, but nonetheless, nobody called her on Christmas.
1:01:12
Whoa, Yeah, so she's kind of calling Christine out again, and didn't
1:01:15
I tell you just a couple two or three episodes ago. I'm like,
1:01:17
Christine needs to dial it down a little a little bit because she seems like
1:01:21
she's performing a lot and pretending she doesn't want to say what she's really feeling.
1:01:24
And this is all fake to me totally. Yeah, just be honest,
1:01:29
just be yourself. It's fine. But she is kind of in her
1:01:31
divorced mom era right now, so that's kind of how they all are.
1:01:35
Yeah. I think Gwen also said in the year following the divorce, Christine
1:01:39
was not necessarily a good parent to be around, and I think the insinuation
1:01:45
was that she took out some of that anger and an upsetness on Gwen and
1:01:50
or her children. So these were insinuations. They're not like straight out statements
1:01:54
of fact, but like you know how the raccoons are. We're sifting,
1:01:58
we're sifting, we're taste. Oh I want more. I want to know
1:02:04
the truth. The only people who seem to be willing to even tell a
1:02:07
little bit of the truth. Are the kids. Yeah, I wish we
1:02:09
could hear more from the kids. I know. Please, I'd love to
1:02:13
hear more ship from all of the older kids. I want to hear from
1:02:16
Logan. Yeah, that kid has been appreca job. He doesn't want any
1:02:21
affiliation with these fucking ding dongs. I mean, I guess I don't blame
1:02:25
him, but I would love he wants to be a real person in the
1:02:29
real world. That isn't fair. He doesn't want to align himself with this
1:02:31
horseshit. Oh, I wish he would. I wish would. It's gonna
1:02:36
be interesting to see what happens the next ten years, because I know there's
1:02:38
gonna be There's gonna be some kid or a wife that's gonna have a tell
1:02:43
all, just like that dugg Or girl, Jill Dugger just released her book
1:02:46
and she was book calling out her father and her mother thing honey, and
1:02:53
so I love it. Bet we're going to get something like that from one
1:02:57
of the brown kids in the future. From Ollips to God's Ear, to
1:03:01
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