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5-11-26 Hour 3 - Keys to Avs vs Wild Game 4/No Mims extension, What's next for AG?/Final Game 4 thoughts · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: What is your biggest concern with the Avs right now?
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  Speaker 2: And you can't say injuries?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, complacency, Yeah, just I'm not but you're making me
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  Speaker 3: come up with something.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, that's what.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm forcing an answer and you can't say injuries.
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  Speaker 2: This concern for the Avs right now is blank overconfidence.
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  Speaker 5: Several days later, Game three goes to Minnesota.
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  Speaker 6: You know the pushback would be.
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  Speaker 5: There, but the Wild push Tallard and the Avalanche didn't
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  Speaker 5: have an answer. So the series lead is cut in half.
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  Speaker 5: It's now two to one Colorado. Final score from Saint
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  Speaker 5: Paul Wild five Avalanche one.
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  Speaker 4: Uh don't know if it was complacency.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of that, but I think it
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  Speaker 2: was more of a desperate team knew their backs were
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  Speaker 2: against the wall. They're also very good and they took
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  Speaker 2: it to you. You did not match that same type
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  Speaker 2: of energy, and then you get a chance tonight to
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  Speaker 2: sort of respond.
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  Speaker 4: And what I love about that.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's a question of who is that on when
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  Speaker 2: the tenor of the game is not matched by one team?
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  Speaker 2: Is that on the players? Is that on the coaching
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  Speaker 2: staff for not having them properly motivated? And they asked
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  Speaker 2: Benna in the post game, do you motivate your team
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  Speaker 2: when you see another team playing that desperate?
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  Speaker 6: He said, I don't coach that.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I can't give It's not something we're coaching,
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  Speaker 7: you know, it's something that we now we felt okay,
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  Speaker 7: we saw where the level of that game went to
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  Speaker 7: with their team, and now we have to respond and
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  Speaker 7: answer in kind. It's it's it's like, what am I
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  Speaker 7: going to walk in and say, We've got to be
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  Speaker 7: more determined and compete harder. Like it's they'll hear it,
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  Speaker 7: and they'll see it. They're gonna see the video and
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  Speaker 7: the video doesn't lie right, But it's it's something that
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  Speaker 7: comes from within. It's it's not my job to sort
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  Speaker 7: of coach that out of them. I'll do what I
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  Speaker 7: have to do when we enter the next game and
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  Speaker 7: as far as deployment, but like we got to look
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  Speaker 7: within a little bit here and get ready to go
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  Speaker 7: for a big hockey game.
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  Speaker 4: I don't disagree with him.
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  Speaker 2: It's not his job to get his team motivated, and look,
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  Speaker 2: this would be a bigger topic and a bigger issue
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  Speaker 2: to me. Have it not felt like that game being
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  Speaker 2: a one off that you know what, they just had
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more juice than you because they had
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  Speaker 2: to in order to win that game and stay in
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  Speaker 2: the series.
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  Speaker 3: I think people confuse getting a team prepared with getting
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  Speaker 3: a team quote motivated. They were prepared. They knew what
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota was going to do. They know the tactics that
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota is going to employ, they know how Minnesota is
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  Speaker 3: going to play the game.
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  Speaker 6: They're prepared. They're prepared for what.
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  Speaker 3: The game plan is and what the Wild are going
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  Speaker 3: to throw at them both sides, their own game plan and.
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  Speaker 6: What the Wild are going to do.
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  Speaker 3: As far as being motivated, you cannot, I just for
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  Speaker 3: those who missed it, and everybody knows this, you cannot
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  Speaker 3: manufacture emotion and motivation if it's not truly there. It
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  Speaker 3: may be partially there, maybe you know you're not out
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  Speaker 3: there just to get run over. But Minnesota was desperate
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  Speaker 3: and they played like it in every aspect of their game.
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  Speaker 6: They had to be.
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  Speaker 3: If they lose that game, they know the series is over.
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  Speaker 3: So they had to play that way, and they did
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  Speaker 3: give them credit.
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  Speaker 8: We will learn a lot about the character and resolve
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  Speaker 8: of the Avalanche tonight in Game four. It is understandable
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  Speaker 8: not to play with the same desperation in Game three,
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  Speaker 8: a game that the Minnesota Wild knew they had to
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  Speaker 8: win in front of their home crowd. They had to
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  Speaker 8: or the series is overnight. If you come back to
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  Speaker 8: Denver tied to to apiece, it's anybody's ballgame, baby, It's
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  Speaker 8: wide open. This is a game in which if the
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  Speaker 8: Avs want to test their championship metal, this is a
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  Speaker 8: game the Avs win if they lose. I want to
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  Speaker 8: ask you, guys, if they lose this game tonight and
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  Speaker 8: you come back to too, how worried are you worry?
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  Speaker 3: Well, all they've done well. I guess you're worried because
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  Speaker 3: it becomes a three game series. But all they've done
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  Speaker 3: so far. I mean, if the Minnesota Wild should win
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  Speaker 3: tonight and it held serve, that's it. I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: Avs have four home games, Minnesota has three home games.
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  Speaker 3: It's just for all the law of averages types of things.
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  Speaker 3: The Avs had won nine straight games before Game three
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  Speaker 3: the other night, the last three to finish up the
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  Speaker 3: season and then six in a row in the postseason.
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  Speaker 3: They were going to lose a damn hockey game, and
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  Speaker 3: they're going to lose another one at some point. Hopefully
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  Speaker 3: it's not tonight, Hopefully it's not Game five, but they're
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  Speaker 3: going to lose another hockey game at some point.
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  Speaker 6: People are like, well, Carolina is doing it. They just
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  Speaker 6: want to straight that's all.
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  Speaker 3: First playing suck holes holes compared to what you're playing.
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  Speaker 2: The first team to ever do that, and two straight
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  Speaker 2: best of seven series to start the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: They're the only team that's gone eight.
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  Speaker 6: No, that is correct.
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  Speaker 3: So look, the fact of the matter is is that
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  Speaker 3: is that you know these things happen. This is postseason hockey.
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  Speaker 6: Nick Waugh.
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  Speaker 3: I had a chance to talk to him after the game.
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  Speaker 3: He's a Stanley Cup champion in the past. Nelly, do
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  Speaker 3: you have do you have that? By the way, Steven okay,
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  Speaker 3: so Steve has it. I was talking to about, you know,
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  Speaker 3: dropping Game three and getting ready for Game four. This
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  Speaker 3: playoff hockey, I mean, teams are gonna push back, There's
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  Speaker 3: no doubt about it. You've seen that a million times
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  Speaker 3: in your life, and that's just it feels like, that's
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  Speaker 3: what happened here tonight.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, you're not gonna go through playoffs with audiversity. We
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  Speaker 9: knew they were gonna come come off strong today. They did,
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  Speaker 9: which is got to be better defensively. I think Ray
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  Speaker 9: Colls gotta be better. Get more options to through defense,
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  Speaker 9: help him out a little bit. Yeah, they come out strong.
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  Speaker 9: They got this one and we'll be for the next one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think that there's this Does that sounds like a
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  Speaker 3: guy who's freaking out to you?
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, it's the same thing. Here's Landy after the game.
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  Speaker 3: If there's a good hockey club over there, does it
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  Speaker 3: feel like this is typical postseason hockey ebbs and flows
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  Speaker 3: are going to happen.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean this is what we expected and if
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  Speaker 10: you didn't, then I think you're a bit naive.
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  Speaker 6: So a good team for a reason. It will be
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  Speaker 6: a good series.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, next one to go back to? Okay, thanks, uh,
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  Speaker 2: to go back to something. I don't know what this
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  Speaker 2: sultry tone is.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, thinks what is going on? I don't I told
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  Speaker 6: you I ate popcorn. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Jason Statham interviewing that, Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: What's the jaw?
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  Speaker 2: Playoff hockey yeah. But the point is this, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: lose in the series. But you asked the question, if
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  Speaker 2: they win tonight and they make it too too, are
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  Speaker 2: you nervous.
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  Speaker 4: Hell? Yeah, I'm nervous, and the same way I was nervous.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm always nervous when you go.
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  Speaker 2: Back when the Nuggets went on their championship run. If
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  Speaker 2: you remember that series against Phoenix, they won the first
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  Speaker 2: two at home, Nuggets too care business. They went to Phoenix,
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  Speaker 2: they lost the next two games and it was a
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  Speaker 2: two to two series.
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  Speaker 4: And if you remember, you remember.
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  Speaker 2: What happened in game four, Yo, kids put up fifty
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  Speaker 2: three points and you lost the Phoenix. Now they came back,
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  Speaker 2: won the next two, got past that, went to the
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  Speaker 2: conference finals, all that good stuff, won a championship. But
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  Speaker 2: I was nervous as hell going back for Game five
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  Speaker 2: because you start to think, I was, Hey, that's a
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  Speaker 2: good team with talented players.
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  Speaker 4: Did they find something? Do they have the momentum? Now?
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  Speaker 4: Like that's of course I'd be nervous.
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  Speaker 6: Which position would you rather be in Minnesota or be able?
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  Speaker 4: Of course you'd be in the ass position.
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  Speaker 8: But most I understand that, But that's not the question.
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  Speaker 6: The question is are you nervous? That's the question, isn't what.
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  Speaker 3: I'm always nervous? Yeah, Vic, I'm always nervous. I was
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  Speaker 3: nervous in Game two against LA. The ABS had one
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  Speaker 3: game one, two to one, tight. Game two goes to overtime,
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  Speaker 3: overtime against LA in your building. You win two to
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  Speaker 3: one and overtime. But was I nervous in that game,
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  Speaker 3: am Rod?
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  Speaker 6: I was?
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  Speaker 3: And the AB swept out the LA Kings. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's playoff hockey. That's the way it goes. Seen
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  Speaker 3: it a billion times. And now that's not excuse making,
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  Speaker 3: that's not evening right, But that's that's the reality.
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  Speaker 4: Let's do this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna see if Moser knows puck because I gotten answer.
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  Speaker 4: But let's see what it's.
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  Speaker 2: two five. Game four ABS and Wild Mos well, you see,
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  Speaker 2: I want you to answer firse and then I'll just
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  Speaker 2: see if you know puck.
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  Speaker 4: So go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: What's pretty simple. The Abs were an incredibly talented team,
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  Speaker 3: discipline team. By the way, that whistle we haven't even
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  Speaker 3: talked about the whistle in game three, and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna use whistles as an excuse at all, but it sucked.
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  Speaker 3: I did not like the way that game was officiated
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  Speaker 3: Game number three. That being said, what was Jean Luke
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  Speaker 3: Picard's command, make.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Engage? Engage right, we'll drive. Engage.
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  Speaker 4: Is this your key?
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  Speaker 6: That's it? Yeah, engage.
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  Speaker 4: You don't know, puck.
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  Speaker 6: That's the worst p I've heard. You don't know.
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  Speaker 8: We've done the keys to the game that get out the.
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  Speaker 2: Worst, get out in transition. Do not be a dump
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  Speaker 2: and chase team. That's not your game. Get out and
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  Speaker 2: transition in transition. Make things happen. Put the pressure on Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: That's the key.
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  Speaker 6: That's a given. That that's like, hey, breath there, that's
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  Speaker 6: a given. You just said.
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  Speaker 4: Yours was engaged.
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  Speaker 8: Your your key was engage. One of not the worst
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  Speaker 8: key to a game I've heard in the history of radio.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's probably one of the best.
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  Speaker 3: Be physically engaged in the game and your talent will
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  Speaker 3: take care of itself.
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  Speaker 4: You know what we're doing a segment within a second get.
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  Speaker 6: Out of the transition game. Well, no, Dutch, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna do these one time game.
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  Speaker 6: In game three, they didn't want to straw Paul.
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  Speaker 2: Whose keys were better minor Moses three oh three, five,
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  Speaker 2: four nine two five kanor Moche?
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  Speaker 4: Which one was better? Who had the better keys?
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  Speaker 7: Uh?
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  Speaker 6: You gotta break you gotta transition fast? Uh uh John.
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  Speaker 4: Luke Blicard engage. That's gonna win you the game tonight. Uh.
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  Speaker 8: If the hit totals are somewhat even, and I'm not
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  Speaker 8: saying they have to out hit the wild, but if
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  Speaker 8: there's somewhere even, I think the win this game.
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  Speaker 4: I agree. As long as you you again.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like a broken record staying this over and
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  Speaker 2: over again because I did it so many times for
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  Speaker 2: the t Wolve series. Matching the intensity at a minimum, matching,
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  Speaker 2: if not enforcing your own. They did that in Game two.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, they were the more physical team. They
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  Speaker 2: went out to hit. Remember the hits on Hughes on
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  Speaker 2: Boldy Like the Wild were way too comfortable in Game three,
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  Speaker 2: and you know that because moj for the first time all.
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  Speaker 4: Series, you aren't winning a game if this happens.
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  Speaker 2: If Boldie Caprice off Hughes in Faber their top four
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  Speaker 2: dogs all score, you're done for.
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  Speaker 4: You're not winning that game.
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  Speaker 6: That is correct, correct, And we're kind of waiting.
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  Speaker 2: We were waiting for those guys to really start to
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  Speaker 2: turn up in this series. They did in Game three.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta stamp that out as much as you can
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  Speaker 4: in game four.
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  Speaker 3: The late great Peter McNabb man I just sometimes he
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  Speaker 3: made things so simple, but he was also so right.
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  Speaker 6: Say it's like, just go freaking score goal. Go in
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  Speaker 6: a hockey game.
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  Speaker 3: You've won a billion hockey games. Go in a hockey game.
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  Speaker 3: And I hope you talking about here, go in a
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  Speaker 3: hockey game.
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  Speaker 2: I want that bucktooth nerd to have fifty bucks in
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  Speaker 2: him right in the middle of that beak.
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  Speaker 4: Today, that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Is he's a little too comfortable for his experience in
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  Speaker 2: this league.
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  Speaker 11: Mos is it is it Ray Ferraro, who does color
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  Speaker 11: with Sean McDonough on the ESPN broadcast. Sometimes he does
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  Speaker 11: so whoever was on the Sabers Canadians game last night.
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  Speaker 11: He had a great line because the the Sabers got
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  Speaker 11: a power play goal to cut it to a four
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  Speaker 11: to two deficit, and then he said, that's all you
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  Speaker 11: gotta do, right, stop the bleeding. Now you're within two
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  Speaker 11: goals and you're just one shot away from being one
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  Speaker 11: shot away. Hm hm, And that's the perfect way to
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  Speaker 11: describe it.
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  Speaker 8: Moj I watched that Vegas Anaheim game last night and
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  Speaker 8: there was a while there in the second where God,
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  Speaker 8: Vegas is coming. They kept coming, They're gonna win this game.
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  Speaker 8: They just looked good and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 8: it things boom in the blink of and eye. They
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  Speaker 8: shifted an Anaheim squad and the power play and then
• 12:47
  Speaker 8: they it's that was a crazy game and it's been
• 12:50
  Speaker 8: a crazy squad to two series.
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  Speaker 6: That was a fun game to watch last night.
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  Speaker 3: It was a really fun You know, those plucky Ducks,
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  Speaker 3: can you say that?
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  Speaker 6: Can you call him a duck? Plucky?
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  Speaker 4: Sure?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, those plucky Ducks are playing well.
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  Speaker 11: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I Joel Quinnville has them engaged in that series against
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  Speaker 3: Steve vegas Golden. No, he's got them, He's got them
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  Speaker 3: believing they can win. And that's that's a big, big.
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  Speaker 4: Thing real quick.
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  Speaker 2: I know the answers, I don't know, but can you
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  Speaker 2: give me like a percentage chance that we see manson tonight?
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  Speaker 4: Is he skating?
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  Speaker 8: No?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's skating, But there's a difference between skating and
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  Speaker 3: you know, and being able to play?
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  Speaker 2: Is he is he near the able to play levels?
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  Speaker 2: What I'm asking, well, this, this is my personal thinking
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  Speaker 2: was this.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to They're not going to deploy him
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  Speaker 3: unless they really need him. Does Bednar think he really
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  Speaker 3: needs him because he's gonna play, I'm sure with pain
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  Speaker 3: for a while, I'm no matter what it is, I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure it's painful, right, But when I watched him in
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  Speaker 3: pregame skate the other day, it wasn't one thousand percent.
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  Speaker 8: I'm sure acking was the same mold right for Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's behind I think he's behind that. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I think Yek is probably a little bit behind it.
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  Speaker 3: He may escape, but there's no chance he played, did
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  Speaker 3: he And if he does, he's not going to be
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: Was he listed as questionable for Game three?
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  Speaker 3: Though he was, But I think that was more smoking
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  Speaker 3: mirrors than anythach else smokes great.
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  Speaker 2: Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five get more of the
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  Speaker 2: in a second, along with an interesting tidbit. As the
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  Speaker 2: Right, before we get more into the press conference from
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  Speaker 2: of the facility from inside of there. It looks awesome,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: first of all, and I'm amazed how quickly that was
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: all built. Secondly, Marvin Mim spoke to the media and
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: said that they have not begun contract extension talks with him.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: He is entering the final year of his deal. First
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: of all, do you think that's weird?
• 15:40
  Speaker 8: I think it's a proven year for him, especially now
• 15:42
  Speaker 8: that Davis Webb is you know, we talked to Marvin
• 15:45
  Speaker 8: shortly after they made the acquisition for What's Waddle and
• 15:51
  Speaker 8: he said he was surprised by the move, remember then. Yeah,
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: but he's also excited that Davis Webb might engage more
• 16:01
  Speaker 8: calls where he's utilized.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: We'll see. So I think it's a prove it year
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: for him.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: It's funny you call it a prove it I don't disagree,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: But to call it a prove it year when he's like,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: how can I prove it if you keep me on
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: the sideline, I don't disagree with you.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: Well, he is a pro bowler. As a return to
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: keep pro bowlers.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, under you don't pay returners.
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: Understood. He's your best though, is he not? Well?
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Of course he's the best in the league.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: So that that's that's what I'm getting at. What else
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: does he need to do to prove?
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: I guess in the.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Wide out game, there's just something that doesn't click between
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: the Broncos brand of offense and what Marvin MIM's skill
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: set is. And I don't know why that is. I
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: was reading one of Leggy's reports about them upgraded position
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: and waddle. Can you know, can he help the vertical game?
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: And so I'm like, why I thought you had a
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: guy that was there for a vertical game. I thought
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: you had to either that if you utilized him. Maybe
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: it's all on Marvin. Maybe I'm completely wrong about this,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: but I really like that guy, and I don't I
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: You know, I said, don't know what else he can do.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: We said it.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Before when Vick you talked to him in that Nuggets pregame.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims was not surprised that they acquired a receiver there.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: He was surprised they acquired somebody who looks just like him.
• 17:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the kind of receiver they acquired again, I'm willing
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: to give it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: Some time now that they have a new play caller.
• 17:28
  Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, you can have
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: a new play caller, the guy making the decisions is
• 17:32
  Speaker 8: going to be right next to him the entire game.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: We'll see.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Here's the just second thing, real quick. The favorites on
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the Fanatic sports book to win the AFC West next year.
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: Is Denver Broncos.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Nope, it's the Chiefs. So the second favorite is Denver. Nope,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: it's the Chargers. All sports books that I can find
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: have the Broncos at as the third favorites to win
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the AFC West next year.
• 17:58
  Speaker 8: Yah, who cares? I mean, I'm just wondering why you've
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: had them wear last season correct, I'm just wondering why
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: do you think that is? Well, because they think that
• 18:06
  Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes is going to play, and they they're you know,
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: they built up their resources to make another run at it,
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: and I think they believe that the schedule benefited the
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: Broncos last season.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: Schedule is going to be harder.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: That might be fair that you're getting the first place
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: schedule now, and that look, no matter how good you are,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: you get a first play schedule. That's worth probably flipping
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: from what the Broncos were the previous year, it's worth
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: probably a couple of wins.
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: Hey man, we've talked about this that the Broncos may
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: not they may not match their win total from last
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: year and still somehow be a better team.
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: It would be almost impossible to match it from last year.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: That's a lot of wins, very difficult, hey do we oh?
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier that the schedule comes out on Thursday. Generally,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: what time does it come out, Vick? I sort of forget?
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Is that the morning time?
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Is it our? I don't remember.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: They do a mass like social media delivery.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: That's how they do it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, then, depending on how this series goes Friday, am
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I gonna do my MoES thing?
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: Am I going to lay it out for? Oh?
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you gotta do that. I forgot our yearly
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: try time win.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I gotta give me. You got to give
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: me a little time to chew on it, right, I mean,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: you can't just.
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: Ub Also on Friday. We never talked to that because
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: it happened after our show. George Peyton had his contract extended.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: Five years, which is the way to talk about that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: George Peyton is a fight me. He's one of the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: best gms in the league. He's talking you and I
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: know that there are very highlighted mistakes that were bad.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: And I agree Hackett, Russell Wilson, things like Randy Gregory signing.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Like nobody's gonna bat a thousand on this stuff, all right,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: but take his his tenure in totality.
• 19:54
  Speaker 8: And a pushback on the Hacket thing, because I think
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: a lot of that was not in his control. Everybody
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: seems to ass I'm that to George Peyton, and I
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: disagree with all of you who assigned that to him.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: You're the guy in charge, though, I mean, it's I
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: understand that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: Was a different deal there, man. I mean, I don't
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: know if you remember that. That was a different deal.
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: There was a transition in place. There's some stuff going
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: on behind the scenes.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but the Russ, the Russ thing, you can't ignore Russ.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Have you done anything dangerous? I would have done the same.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: But they did a hell of a job getting themselves
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: They did it. They did a hell of a job
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: get themselves out of it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Though, I want to get your thoughts on this, Vic.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: There was something that happened in that press conference on
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Friday that I don't think got a ton of run.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: But this is Josh Cronky talking about the big trade
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: last summer.
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: Listen, we're a very collective group, dating back to even
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: last summer. I think there's you know, when people think
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: about how decisions get made, we very much discussed them
• 20:54
  Speaker 10: for several days as a group before we really start
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: to zero in on what we want to do. You know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: there was a major trade we made last summer where
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: I won't name names. I wasn't involved with the talks directly.
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: He wasn't involved with the talks directly. And John wasn't
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: involved in the talks directly. It was one of our
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: assistant general managers. Those conversations come about organically. Then we
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: start to realize this might be something that we want
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: to do. Let's meet as a group, let's put our
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: heads together from all of our different perspectives. That's how
• 21:23
  Speaker 10: we arrive at the best decisions we feel for the
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: for the team. So that's kind of what we're going
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: to be doing again this summer is combing through everything,
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: bouncing ideas off of one another, and then figuring out
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: the best direction we feel is the right direction for
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: the team.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Hell.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Does that mean that the GMS weren't involved directly, Well.
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: It was initiated by somebody else. And he's talking of
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: one of two trades, either the MPG trade or the
• 21:45
  Speaker 8: Jonis Valenchunas trade. Yeah, correct, those are the really only
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: the two trades.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I suppose I would just assume trade trade.
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: It depends on what your definition of a big trade,
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: but it could be one of those two trades and
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: an assistant GM And I'm not sure who he's referring to,
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: but I think it's always initiated by somebody who has
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: a contact somewhere.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: That's all okay, So that there wasn't more too. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: just found it weird that he's like, we weren't directly involved.
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: They go, what do you mean, Well, at the end
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: of the day, you are, But the initial the initial talk,
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: somebody has to initiate it.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: What was what stuck out to you the most from it?
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Vic? From the entire press conference?
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: Yea, how the entire season and team hinges on the
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: health and status of Aaron Gordon.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: That's a tough place to be, h especially when your
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: season is hinging on somebody who I'm just facing facts here.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: You can't trust anymore health wise, like he can't trust
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: has anybody?
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: Has anybody talked to ag?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I haven't heard him talking to a microphone that I
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: can remember in a long time, because I would like
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: to figure out, what are you going to say he thinks, Well,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I want to know what if he thinks this is
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: a fixable situation with his body?
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: Is a just rest?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Is there anything you can do to to not have
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: this creep up again on a consistent basis?
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: So on and so forth, because it went Hammy, it's calf.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: It's all this different stuff. And is it his body
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: or is it something he's doing wrong? Does he need
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: to do something different? I'm curious about all that because
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: he's got to know Vick. He's not He's a smart
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: guy and he's a hell of a player. He's got
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: to know exactly what you just said. That a lot
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: of the Nuggets deep success I'm talking about, you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: winning a game in Orlando on a Tuesday night in January.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: But the deep success.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: A lot of it is based on his health and
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: his ability to actually play.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: Like Aaron Gordon, I.
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: Was thinking about this the other day. Some teams lose
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: players and they just keep going it doesn't. They just
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: keep winning and it doesn't stop them. But the way
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: the Nuggets are assembled, where one link, one chink in
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: that fence, and it all is just it doesn't work
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: the same. And that's one link, the Aaron Gordon link,
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: especially against a Minnesota team that was athletic and physical,
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: that's the you could least afford to lose that link.
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: In fact, I could argue to you they if if
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: you had a choice against Minnesota and you couldn't utilize
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: one of these guys, Aaron Gordon or Jamal Murray, Well,
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: I think I think you know the answer to that question.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Well, in hindsight, yeah, I think on the surface, you
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: take Jamal because Jamal is a point.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Scorer for you and can do a whole bunch of
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: different things.
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: So used to afford to lose in that series against
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: that team. I'm not talking about the playoffs against that team.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: I get it.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I still think I think you could quibble on that answer.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you're wrong.
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: But the Golden State Warriors faced a similar dilemma, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: this guy was much younger at the time. There was
• 24:56
  Speaker 8: a moment in Steph Curry's career where he just could
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: not shake the ankle injuries, and they thought about trading him.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: They tried to trades Steph Curry.
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: They tried, and trade never went down, and he overcame
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: it and he became an MVP and they became a dynasty.
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: This is a little later in Aaron's career. Yeah, can
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: you overcome this? I don't know the answer.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Here's the problem.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: This isn't a we can have surgery and fix this
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: and then it'll be good as new. This is soft
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: tissue stuff that keeps coming up. And he's now thirty
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: years old. And here's my biggest concern with him. Rest
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't help him.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Guys.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: He's rested for about a year and a half, entire
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: off seasons of rest. He comes back, he gets hurt
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: early in the year, they rest him for two months.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: In the middle of the year, he comes back, he
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: gets hurt again. They rest him on no back to backs,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: not doing that. He played thirty six games this year,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and what was it, two games into the postseason, three
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: games in the postseason, it was an injury.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Like that's what freaks out.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: That is correct.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: This isn't a situation where it's like, well, if we
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: just sit him down for four months.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: He'll be good after that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: It's not helping he's he's been doing that and there's
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: still the same issues.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: They're going to have to address it. And the fact
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: that Josh Crokey did address it in the news conference
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: makes me feel good.
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, they they know deep down, they know. Did
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: you hear on the surface too?
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: But can you play He's played again because I want
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: you to hear a particular word he use and I
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: want to delve into that.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: Oh, I know which word it is.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: You go to it because the beginning of this answer
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: is a lot like half of it's about Adam and
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: we can just skip through that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: So you just go find it and we'll play it
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: in a second.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: In the meantime, there's about potential roster moves.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: He said this as an option.
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: I think we need to have running it back as
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: a possibility. I think this season was in a lot
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: of ways. This season that never was because this group
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: never fully got a chance to show any kind of rhythm.
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: When you're going to have the amount of turnover and
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: change that we did last year. I think, you know,
• 26:59
  Speaker 10: these three three guys did a hell of a job
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: to establish any kind of a rhythm, and basketball is
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: a rhythm game. I think as the group as a
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: whole never had a chance to fully do that. And
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: I think that a microcosm of our season is almost
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: Nikola before and after the injury. You know, he was
• 27:16
  Speaker 10: one player before and when you come back, he was
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: still incredible in so many facets, but for some reason,
• 27:22
  Speaker 10: this three point shot left him. Whether or not you
• 27:24
  Speaker 10: believe me, I do believe that basketball is a rhythm game,
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: and as a team as a whole, never had a
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: chance to fully establish a rhythm, and that truly showed
• 27:31
  Speaker 10: up when the games mattered in April.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: He said, I agree with that, He said, I agree
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: with everything he said.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: He thinks, fully healthy, this is a sixty to sixty
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: five win team.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: That's what he believed.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: You want to hear a funny story, and I think
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: I can relate this. It's not that big a deal.
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: So a friend of mine sent me some photos. Nicola
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: goes home to Serbia, right, and dudes from Denver Nuggets
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: fans said, let's go.
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: To Nicola's home town.
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: Let's just go visit and see what's there. So they
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: go to his hometown, Sombor. This is just a couple
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: of days ago and they come across his home and
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: he's sitting on the porch just hanging out. These guys
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: come out and say, Hey, Nuggets fans whatever.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Do you know what Nicola does?
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: He proceeds to hang out with them for the next
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: two hours, show them around, shows them his stables, shows
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: them his horses, takes pictures. I mean, like welcome them
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: with open arms. He's hanging out there, and the entire time,
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: I'm wondering to myself, what is Nicola doing this offseason?
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: Because if that wrist is tune, they brought up the wrist,
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: If the elbow is an issue and it's always been one,
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: is it just rest or you go beyond that?
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: First of all, what do you mean does he need surgery?
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: I don't think he needs surgery. Does he I don't know.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: First of all, I think he'd be getting it. If
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: he did, he'd be getting it right now. What do
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: you not of guiding people around his hometown.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: If somebody traveled halfway across the world, I found my
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: home and I was on the front porch and they
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: said Hi, I'd be like, beat it, creep, leave me alone.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna hang out with you for two hours.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Send this potential murderer inside my horse stables.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: No, thank you. Anyway, that's a cool story.
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: Well didn't he say to you, Vic, you will not
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: find me.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: You will not find me.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: You will not find me. Yeah, Well these guys found
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: him a little different.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: That's I mean, it's a very cool story. Now, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: don't know what the answer is, Vic. It's very clear
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: to me that, especially in the playoffs, even stephen A
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Smith what I don't consider. I don't think that stephen
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: A is grinding you know, every second of Nuggets film
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: watching the team, he said, it was pretty obvious to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: see that Yokic was hurt when he's missing little floaters
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: that he makes ninety percent of, and he missed those
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: pretty consistently short. There's something going on, like he's playing
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: through something.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: But you know, can we he may not be inclined.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: They may suggest surgery and he may be like, I'm
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: not going to do that, Yeah, because he doesn't look
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: like the type that wants to be wants to go
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: through an invasive procedure.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Agreed, Hey, can we get back to the ag thing
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: real quick? From from Josh crutt Yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: We go ahead.
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: I would say that my job in this in this
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: organization is to help make decisions without emotion. And so
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: I love Aaron Gordon and I know that I think
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: the world of him, just like the entire Nuggets nation does.
• 30:33
  Speaker 10: But there are some things that we're going to have
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: to look at. This team looks a lot different when
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: Aaron Gordon's healthy. I think everybody can acknowledge that. And
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: so we need a healthy Aaron Gordon, and so we
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: need to help figure out how to make the most
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: of him and get the most out of his body
• 30:47
  Speaker 10: for the benefit of the team, that's for sure.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: So the he also seems to look at Yeah, he
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: also said and he went on and on about Agen
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: and he's wonderful person, and he is, but he said,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have some challenging conversations.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: About how we can all get better. And I wonder
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: what the challenging conversation with Age he would be.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, because he's non challenging
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: conversations they had with Jamal Murray last summer.
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: Absolutely could be could be.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they've had challenging conversations with Joker
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: in the past, you know. I mean, he's certainly changed,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: but it's got to be something about his body and
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: can his body hold up? I mean, he's not Aaron
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Gordon's not ancient, but he's a He's a big man
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: who plays a big game, and you know, you worry,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: especially now that he's now that he's thirty north of thirty,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: nothing good happens.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: Alan on the text line says, I disagree with what
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: you guys said about Joker. He missed floaters due to
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: Rudy Gobert. Well, floaters are one thing, but there's no
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: denying his three point shot was not the same after
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: the injury. He was a great I mean, go back
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: and look at three point percentage before the injury. Dude
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: couldn't miss.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: Guys, hes a guy who Rudy Gobert for lunch.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: He averaged like thirty five a night on Gobert in
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: like his last eight games. I don't it's one of
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: two things happened. Jokic was dealing with something that led
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: to him being less effective, or Rudy Gobert supersized his
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: defensive output to a level he's never done before. And
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: which one do you think is more likely?
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert is a good defender. He has never been
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: able to stop Joker ever, that is true.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: Do you do you think he was asked this question?
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: They were all asked this question.
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: I'll ask you, guys, do you think the Nuggets are
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: still in the championship window with this?
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: With this crew? I do I do fully healthy? I
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: do I do Brett.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: It's hard to answer because I would say if they're healthy, yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: but if not, then they aren't close.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: I think they need add more athleticism.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: I think they could, but vic I think, but if
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: ag and Peyton Watts were playing, those are two athletic guys.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: Okay. And that's the other thing.
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: We didn't even talk about Peyton Watson. I obviously they
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: want to bring him back if they can. But I'm
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: telling you guys right now, they could easily be be
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: priced out of the Peyton Watson Derby. If a team
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: like Brooklyn Chicago, who have plenty of salary cap space,
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: if they come out all guns blazing and they throw
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: thirty plus at this guy, I think the Nuggets will
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: be out.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: P Wats hitting RFA at the perfect time for him,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the perfect time, unbelievable.
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: When they say they're going to run it back, I
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: mean the core run it back. And then you do
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: some things with role players, and he's one of those
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: players they'd love to have back because he can answer
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: a lot of things. Defensively, he can bring the ball up.
• 33:54
  Speaker 8: He proved that he can drive to the bucket. He
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: proved that he can make jumpers. He proved that. But
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: if Brooklyn says, ah, we'll throw you thirty two million, I.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Would say, by Cam find other ways.
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: But that's ten million more than Cam. Yeah, and now
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: we're talking all right, So now who else are you
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: gonna send? Bal okay? And now how do you all right?
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: So I'm just gonna play Devil's advocate here. You just
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: said goodbye to Val, goodbye to Cam, and you're giving
• 34:25
  Speaker 8: thirty two million to Peyton Watson.
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: Yep, let's just let's settle on that number.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: So now you're starting five consists of Joker who makes
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: the max, Jamal who makes the max, Aaron Gordon who
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: makes thirty three, Peyton Watson who makes thirty two, Christian
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: Brown who makes twenty five.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: What's your bench? Who are you gonna pay?
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: You need to find your vetmins again because here's here's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: the thing, Vic, you.
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Want to find five van five vetmins.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Listen, listen.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: They took the entire offseason last year to provide depth
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: that would that went unused like a toy in a
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: shiny new box. If you aren't gonna use it anyway,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: then use it on guys you are gonna play. I mean,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the money that you saved last offseason by trading for
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior was essentially used on one guy, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: that's Val, that's it, who did not play at all
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: in that series. So if you aren't gonna use it,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: then screw it. Throw all the money at the guys
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: who are gonna play and go sixteep again.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: So you're not gonna value a bench at all.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: They didn't value it this year.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: It's how they got through the month of January.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Uh that you know as well as I do. I
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: know it matters when it really mattered.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: They didn't use it. You didn't.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: You didn't extend your bench to use in January. You
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: extended it to try and use it in April and
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: May and June, and then you didn't.
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: I'm just telling you there's no way in hell you're
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: gonna pay a starting five the numbers I just gave you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: There's no way in hell you're gonna exceed those numbers.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: It would be there's no.
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: Way starting five in the NBA, and they're not doing that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: There's no way in hell. We're not gonna get yelled
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: at by Kevin right now.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, we want to take this farther.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Three oh three, five, four, nine two five, Get one
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: last look Game four tonight at six o'clock.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: We'll do it next.
• 36:24
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• 36:56
  Speaker 2: and I'll say it this way. When the Avs lost
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: on Saturday in a game where they just got their
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: butts handed to him, they got their butts kicked from
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: the start of the game all the way to the
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: end of the game. It was kind of like my
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: reaction was weird. You lose a playoff game, you typically
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: freak out a little bit. I kind of was just like, yeah,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I get it. Minnesota's really good. They were desperate for
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: a win. They just got back home. This is what
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: good desperate teams do occasionally.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: You know what we said on Friday before we left
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: the show, and Moser said it, he was abundantly clear,
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: and you were right. Survived the first period, survived the
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: first period, and.
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: They were just unable to do it.
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: It was two nothing after one and that was the ballgame.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: That was it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I was at they when you look back at that too,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I thought the first ten minutes they did their best
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: to survive. You know, they're kind of hanging in there,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: hanging in there, and then these goals. Man, the caprice
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Off goal. I don't know how you lose caprice Off
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, you've got again, two guys going to one
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: guy in caprice Off is flying right up the middle
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: by himself, and what is the what does the guy
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: who makes seventeen million dollars a year due Brett in
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: that situation.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: He puts it in the net.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: He gives away dollars, puts it in. Well it, that
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: would be great. Uncle moch is right here, Carill, hey,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: what's up? And once she doesn't have a stick either,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: so that that sucks. His stick is stuck over in
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: the corner. But you can't lose Coroll Caprice off on
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: a what a sentition? Was a breakaway man? You can't
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: do it. Then it's a four on three situation. And
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Quinn hughes with all that space, he does what mccarr
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: does when you when you look at Quinn hughes.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: Let me take that back.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: When teams look at a cal mccarr and other teams
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: fan bases, what do they say, m I'd like to
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: have me one a VM boy, Oh boy, I'd like
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: to give me one of them mccar things. Right, Well,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: their answer is Quinn hughes and he does that again.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: That's sweet. Look at the fire and it's off the
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: post and in. Okay, So then now it's a two
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: nothing game. And really at that point you're scroogy though
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: the Hartman goal out of mid airy swipes it, baseball
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: bats it in out of mid air. Good for him
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: in the favor goal off the pants. I mean, you know, look,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: he got beat. End of story, you got beat.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Uh, Minnesota now is I don't think that they're
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: They're feeling more relaxed, but not gonna be as desperate.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: If they lost Game three, this thing was gonna be over.
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: It's the same type of feel.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: For tonight's game. If they go down three to one,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: it's a.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Very, very uphill battle that they're gonna have for the
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: rest of this series.
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: But I think the Avs, after taking sort of a
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: shot to the face, you know, uh, taking a punch
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: in the mouth, they'll respond in kind tonight they'll do that.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: I I have a.
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: Feeling I feel tonight. I feel it very well.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Could be Yeah, it could be one of these. I
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: think that twenty nine. I think that twenty nine tonight
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: is going to be flying. I'm looking for okay, Vic,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. We're gonna be home tomorrow. We'll
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: be home tomorrow.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: And I'm sure that Jared Bednar he might meet with
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: a media when we land. We'll we'll have to see.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know how that's gonna go down. But for
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: morning skate for Wednesday, for game five, Why don't you
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: come and ask him?
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: It's not my sign, it's not your assignment.
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: You're you're if you want me, if you want me
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: to go full hockey Vic and take over that role,
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: I can.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: No.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: This is my personal invitation to have you come. I'll
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: hold your little little pokey thumb hands. I'll hold you
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: by the hand, walk you over to the locker and
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: say we go wear flippers.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: I have a legitimate question.
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: What's that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: If I put Nathan McKinnon on the ice in flippers
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: and I put Vic on the ice in skates, who
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: gets from one side of the ring to the other faster?
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Now, this is a legitimate question, and it's definitely Nate. Definitely.
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: Actually I would be better off in flippers.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: It is the visual. It always makes me laugh. Somebody
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: walking on like land with flippers.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: It's like when you put a sock on your dog
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: or something like that.
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: It's always.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's it's always funny always, And even yes.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: I agree with you though most tonight is a game
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: that he you know, we could talk all we want.
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: That top line was the only threat in game three,
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: it was it was the only threat. And Nelson needs
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: to contribute.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: The Nelson line must be better. They've got to be better,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: you know. The Catery line has to be better. You know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I think I don't know what's going on with nas
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: right now, but he's he looks a step.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Off to a little unnoticeable.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that and that's that's it's not a concern, but
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: he's unnoticeable. And so you you've got to be he
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: knows it. You've got to be noticeable tonight. Those two lines.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Forget about the fourth line. They always do their job,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: but they're not paid to go on out there, and
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: and and you know, get you a four to one lead.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: The second and third lines need to be better. They've
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: got to be much better tonight, period, end of story.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any question. And you know,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Bennar said it. They have to respond in kind. For
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: a game four like tonight, you win this game, you
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: have total control and advantage.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: Absolutely.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: That's not to say, dude, that they'll win, because Minnesota
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: is also very good. But I want to see that engagement.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I want to see that compete. It must be there,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: and I'll be shocked, beyond shocked if it's not there.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Shocked, all right, a couple of minutes left here, fact Checker, Please.
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• 43:26
  Speaker 11: Did we agree on how to pronounce his name? Corey
• 43:29
  Speaker 11: mass Sack, Yeah, mass Sack, Corey Massisack.
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 43:33
  Speaker 11: He caught up with Nathan McKinnon before the game yesterday
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: and confirmed that the video of him swimming in the
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: pool wearing flippers was from Friday. I know, Brett, you
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: had said you thought it was from a couple of
• 43:44
  Speaker 11: years ago. It was actually from this Friday, and Mac
• 43:47
  Speaker 11: told him that, you know, he caught a lot of
• 43:49
  Speaker 11: flak for that online, but he was very appreciative of
• 43:52
  Speaker 11: the fans who had his back. And some of the
• 43:55
  Speaker 11: benefits of swimming with flippers. First of all, it takes
• 43:58
  Speaker 11: away a lot of the work that your upper body
• 44:00
  Speaker 11: has to do, so you can focus on your lower body, specifically,
• 44:03
  Speaker 11: you can isolate some of those leg muscles. And it
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: also adds more resistance to your kicks, so you gotta
• 44:08
  Speaker 11: work harder.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: So what's the point of flippers? All I'm hearing is
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: flippers make everything more difficult.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: No, but they make you go faster. The flippers you
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: propel yourself through the water.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: It's like taking a bike up to like the fifth
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: gear or whatever like that, where you really got to
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: push to get a.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Going sort of thing. Okay, but was that an act?
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: References?
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: VI?
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I don't ride bicycles?
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: What what? What was your reference?
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: It's all right, yeah, later, just go ticket nap.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: I saw Vis bogged on, big Don bag bagged on
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: and it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Was one of those where he was staring through me.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: It wasn't he wasn't looking at me. He was looking
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: beyond me.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: It's the it's the it's the has hives.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: Look out today. If you want to go with me.
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: Can I get a bike with a motor, Yeah.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: You could ride that.
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: You can ride the vespa and I'll do the bike
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: as long as you go alongside and me, I'll do it.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: I just want somebody up the mountain with me.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I would be too encouraged to try and wipe you
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: out if I was on that vespa.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: You'd feel so ashamed. They shame, did you be?
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: They put some flippers on and then ride the bike.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: It creates more resistance to the Pedal iTunes, Spotify, Mose Lombardi,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: and Canane.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: That's where you can.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: Find to skate.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to skate six o'clock tonight, five thirty pre
• 45:30
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• 45:35
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about it tomorrow. Have a great day, love y'all,
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: see you