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S4 73. Video Ep- Strange O’clock Podcast – Testimonial collaboration · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks. This is Princess.
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  You are listening to the Millennial Mustard See podcast.
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  Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your
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  friends. And you're listening to the
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  Stranger Clock podcast. But Michael is not with me.
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  It's just Rod and Jerry. That's tough.
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  We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
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  right now is a great benefit in virtue because it's an end
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  around between this whole corrupt.
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  Information System Media System It's time for the Strange
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  O'clock Podcast, where you get to hear strange news with
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  Christian views. We thank you for the breath of
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  life. I thank you for this
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  opportunity, Lord God, you say that we are to make declaration
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  of your glory and your majesty, Lord God, and to just stand.
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  Do all that we can to stand so in this day that we live in with
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  the confusion and the darkness that's pinned against us.
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  I pray over this episode in the name of Jesus asking for wisdom
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  and gentleness. And that we would have a flavor,
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  a salt in our speech, that it would help all who listen.
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  And I pray in the name of Jesus, Name of Jesus.
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  Amen. Father God, thank you so much
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  for my brother Rod and his lovely wife and children.
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  And thank you, Lord, for what you've done in his life.
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  And and thank you, Lord, for what you're doing in in our
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  lives, Father God. And and just pray that you'd
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  fill our hearts and minds with your godly guidance, direction,
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  advice and wisdom. As well as your peace,
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  tranquility surrender to contentment and grace.
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  Let us say and speak and think whatever you want us to speak
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  and think and let our hearts and minds be guided by your Holy
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  Spirit. And I just pray we'd talk about
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  our past as it relates to and redemption and how it glorifies
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  you in every way, shape and form and and your how it glorifies
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  your love and kindness and your faithfulness, Lord, towards us.
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  And I just pray that you'd plant seeds in people's hearts and
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  what cause or cause our podcast to water those seeds.
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  Either way, you give the increase Father and thank you
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  Lord for giving the increase and use both of our podcasts to
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  reach hundreds, thousands of 1,000,000 or just even that one
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  person, Lord God. If just one person comes to know
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  Jesus as a result of our podcast, it's it would be so
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  much worth it. Father God and I know that with
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  the Rod's podcast I'm sure it's reached many, many more.
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  And thank you so much for his his humble and kind heart and
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  that he has such a servant's heart for you and and that that
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  he wants to to serve you Father God and by putting out not only
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  just information but but heartfelt spirit led
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  information. Look out through stories,
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  through red pill stuff or that you've shown us Father God and
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  and thank you Lord and thank you for this disconnection.
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  Father God. And even if we don't meet each
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  other in person, what we know that we're going to meet each
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  other in heaven in person for all eternity.
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  Father God, we thank you for that.
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  But we do pray, Lord, eventually that we would be able to be able
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  to meet someday soon. Father in this life.
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  Father, we thank you Jesus. We pray to you, Thank you and
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  worship you. Lord in Jesus name.
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  Amen. Worship you, Father God.
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  Thank you, Jesus. Hi there.
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  I'm Jerry from the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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  And this is Rod from the Strange O'clock Podcast.
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  And together we're the Strange Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
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  We're spreading this the strange Millennial Mustard seeds all
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  over the world hopefully right now.
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  So people that might be confused but we just wanted to say that
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  we are teaming up 5050 with hosting and Co hosting with each
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  other and and we are we are each other's guests.
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  We want to just split it right down the middle that I'm not
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  Ron's guest or he or he's not my guest, but we're we're just, you
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  know, joining forces together and we wanted to share our
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  testimonials with you all or if you're southern, with y'all.
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  Or if you're from Philly, you could say use guys, use guys, or
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  if you're from Philly, use guys. Testimony would choose.
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  Yeah. Yeah I like that would choose
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  right or from California you could say with you you you guys
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  share it with you guys and gal surfs up hang loose.
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  So I'm I'm so blessed to have Rod from Millennial Mustard Seed
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  on our joint podcast and he's going to share his testimonial
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  and story. So Rod, can you tell me your
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  testimonial and how you came to know the Lord when you were
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  young and you want to share right from the beginning and how
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  you came to know the Lord? Well, it's a long story and I
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  have shared my testimony on the Days of Noah podcast and then on
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  it was aired on my show as well. And actually got a lot of
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  listener responses from that and the feedback of people saying
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  more and more and more. So I'm like I'm still digesting
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  some of my experience, but I did not grow up in the church.
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  So I'll start there. You know, I grew up very secular
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  outside of Philadelphia, PA So it was diverse culture, you know
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  there. There was a lot of things going
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  on, a lot of things to get wrapped up in and.
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  You know, with my dad's side of the family, I'm not going to
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  spend too much time here, but he, his mother was an Italian
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  Princess. She was first generation from
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  Italy. She was Rose Maria Tavianna
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  Palante. So I didn't grow up in the
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  church, you know, for me, I grew up very secular outside of
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  Philadelphia, PA and I had good parents.
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  They worked hard and they had morals.
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  But for us it was kind of just. Anything that the world was
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  doing, we were half entertaining that.
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  So I didn't know much about the Bible, although I had some
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  experiences when I was younger. You know, I shared a little bit
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  on an episode that I did on the Days of Noah podcast and it was
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  aired on my show as well, just kind of touching some of these
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  climaxes. But one of the interesting
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  things for me was I knew since I was like 7 years old, I had a
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  calling on my life. And it was to, you know, seek
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  God and to to really know what's going on here.
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  Because I had an aunt and she was on the phone.
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  She was talking about the glory of God.
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  She was talking about this God of just majesty and and
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  brilliant light and love. That's just uncomprehendable.
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  Right. And and this is back in the
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  early 90s, so it's like a long squiggly, you know, 10 foot long
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  telephone cord, you know, and I'm sitting there playing with
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  my Batman toy and. I had this like I I want to say
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  it's an out of body experience. I still don't have the exact
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  language for it, but what happened was I was watching
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  myself as a young kid playing with this Batman toy from the
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  top corner of the room, and I was engulfed in light and that
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  terrified me because I didn't know how to talk about that.
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  I didn't have the language for it or definitions for it, you
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  know? And I tried to forget about that
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  to be honest with you. But my Aunt Connie, she was on
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  the phone and she was talking with somebody about about the
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  Lord. She was the only person in my
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  young life that was walking around with the Bible, Excuse
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  me. Like, I'm going to live by this.
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  I'm going to represent this. And other than that, it was
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  just, it was secular culture, You know, like we ate, we ate
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  cheese steaks, You know what I mean?
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  We, you know, we watch sports. You know, it was like this.
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  Just kind of really basic, you know, partying, work hard, party
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  hard. Philadelphia culture that I I
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  was immersed in from a young age, So a lot of things happened
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  and I don't want to spend like a terrible amount of time on one
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  thing or another. I mean, it is emotional for me
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  to think of things back-to-back. But my mom got diagnosed with
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  cancer when I'm like 17 years old, right?
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  So she's she's white as a ghost. At one point in time, she had
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  lost all the hair on her body. She's just a tiny little thing
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  laying in the bed. And she was going through
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  chemotherapy. And I remember her.
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  I took her some tea and some food, and I take it upstairs.
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  And this is just like a really dark time of life.
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  And she says to me, she's stopping all medication.
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  She's stopping chemo. She's stopping everything.
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  And she was going to go to church.
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  And I'm like, what are you talking about?
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  Like, in my mind, I'm like, what are you talking about?
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  Like this is the medicine. This is crazy.
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  But like, I respected my mother and I knew that she was saying
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  it from a place of like, listen to me, son, Like, like if I do
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  one more day of what the doctors are telling me to do, I'm going
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  to die. And so I was just shocked by it
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  that that's like that's like another moment where it's like
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  this defining time where I'm like being in my mind.
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  I'm like observing and watching and and like life is going on.
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  But this is like this introduction of.
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  My mother, who's going to choose faith over, you know, fear of
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  death and just over medicine, just it was it's wild.
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  Now that I look back on it, at the time, I was like angry and
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  kind of confused and upset, like what is she talking about?
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  And this doesn't match up, you know what I mean?
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  Kind of shocked a little bit. But I respected her enough not
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  to argue what she has said she she wanted to do.
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  So to this day, you know, we're talking a long time ago now I'm
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  35. She looks like she's 30 years
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  old. Full head of hair, beautiful
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  smile and she's got the glow. So Long story short, she went to
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  this, this church in Norristown, PA and she trusted God through
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  this this really dark, you know, near death experience with
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  cancer that she had. So I think that that was like
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  something I always kind of held onto, but I put it on the back
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  burner, like what do I do with this, you know, and.
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  Let's Fast forward a little bit from there.
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  I'm just going to hit some climaxes.
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  I'm going to try to put a couple new things in there.
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  I didn't share on my previous testimony because my audience
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  has been asking for quite some time for me to do like this
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  explanation. Like they want me to cover all
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  of it. And I'm like, I might need to
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  write a book because it's a lot. It's like a lot of stuff, but.
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  I I get jumped. I have this out of body
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  experience and I get beat up by a bunch of guys.
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  I'm swollen from the back of my ear to like the front of my
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  face, like they try to kill me, right?
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  So I sit up out of my body. Now I'm really frustrated.
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  Like what is going to happen when I die?
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  How come I try to talk about this with like quote UN quote,
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  like religious people or like Christians and they're like kind
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  of standoffish, Like what is he talking about?
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  We can't relate to that. Why are you, you know, like what
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  happened to you, man, you're not of us.
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  Like you're, you're something different.
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  That's how I would feel. And that's kind of like what it
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  how the wall was up between like this, like denominations and
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  religions and churches. And then just my experience, now
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  there's a lot of people like me, but at the time you feel really
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  isolated, like, yo, is there something wrong with me, right?
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  Like, you know, like I've dipped into this world that we don't
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  talk about that I shouldn't know exists, but like, nobody wants
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  to reciprocate me on it. So that that was another thing
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  that, you know, I dealt with PTSD from that.
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  And as I'm growing up, you know, I'm 19 or 20 years old.
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  I can't decide what to do with my life.
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  You know, I'm literally obsessed with what was going to happen
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  when I die. And and I need to chew on this
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  experience. I need to forgive these people
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  because I I didn't want to hold on to, like, rage and
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  bitterness. I knew I had to forgive.
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  But at the same time, I'm like was more perplexed by the
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  experience, Like, so what's really going to happen when I
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  leave this temporary vessel? Because like, we don't talk
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  about that. That's not a that's not a common
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  conversation, right? And if you go to the pastor, he
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  just wants to quit some scripture and just say be a good
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  little boy and go on your way. And it's like, no, no, no.
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  I need to wrestle through this. So I end up moving to Florida.
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  I moved 2000 miles away. I get in a 95 accurate Integra
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  and I hit Interstate 95 and I go to Jacksonville, FL and I'm down
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  there for for a while now. I had twins when I was younger.
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  Beautiful, beautiful children. Riley in Seattle.
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  Yeah, they're just amazing kids and and a blessing.
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  And there there's just so much, so much of the story, But I'll
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  share, I'll share this experience.
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  I'm in Florida. I'm going through, I'm in the
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  gutter. I'm like going through life,
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  right. I didn't really have a good role
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  model or good mentors. I didn't really have good, let's
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  just say, direction. And I'm trying to do right from
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  like a secular standpoint, like like I'm like okay.
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  Well, if I don't smoke or if I don't drink.
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  Then I'll be able to hold a better job, right?
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  It's just like thinking like that, well, let's not do what I
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  was taught, right? Let let's actually change some
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  things up. So I struggled through that and
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  tried to do what was right. But but literally, you know, a
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  backslide. And I didn't really know the
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  Lord. Although I felt like a tugging.
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  Like, don't worry, it's going to get better.
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  Something's coming. But like, it was just like
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  weird. I kind of wanted to like push it
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  away because it was like. I don't know how to process
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  that. I don't know how to digest that.
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  So that just stays over there. And this is reality.
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  I need to deal with this. And I was stuck in this, this
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  weird place for for a while and my daughter Sienna Okay.
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  This is emotional. But I I lived with them.
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  Their Their mother wasn't there at the time.
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  We're in Duval County in the north side of Jacksonville.
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  I think it was 32218 if I remember the zip code.
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  Wow, it's a good memory. They must have did something to
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  me when they beat me up cuz I can remember stuff that I'm like
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  why do I remember that? Wow.
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  Amazing. She comes in to her and my son
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  have a room. I'm across the hall and there's
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  a bathroom in between us and she comes in to.
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  The room. And I'm not asleep.
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  This is like 1:30, almost 2:00 o'clock in the morning.
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  And she's lit up like a light bulb at like almost two in the
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  morning. And I'm like, see, I know.
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  What are you doing? And she says, Dad, dad, they're
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  so beautiful. They're so beautiful.
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  Dad, you're And she's excited. And I jump up and I'm like, OK,
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  because we're in the city. I'm like, I'm, I want to run and
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  check my doors. I'm like, what is going on?
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  And she says no, no dad, Dad. And she's she's she's young,
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  like we didn't go to church. So she doesn't have language to
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  talk about anything other than just like cartoons and life.
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  But she says no, dad, the angels are so beautiful.
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  They're so she didn't even say angels, but she just kept saying
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  they're so beautiful. And I'm like, she's glowing.
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  She's wide awake. I'm like, OK, so I get kind of
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  get down on her level like eye to eye.
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  I'm like, so what's going on kid?
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  And she's just like she. This is going to make me all
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  that she wants to dance, and she's just like in Cloud 9, like
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  that. They're so beautiful.
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  It's going to be okay, she says. And little does she know, she
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  she didn't know. Nobody else knew.
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  But weeks before that, a storm blew in and I had the front
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  door. But I'm home alone at the time.
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  And like, there's this storm. It's like a whatever like
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  Category 3 or 4. Hurricane or whatever they call
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  them, the tropical storms down there.
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  And I'm beating the ground crying out to God and I'm just
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  like had this moment with them, you know?
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  And like I haven't talked about like this, this portion with my
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  daughter and what she experienced and and sharing this
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  before. So forgive me if it chokes me up
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  a little bit, but I I am beating the ground and literally
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  screaming on top of my lungs. And I'm doing it during this
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  storm because I'm like, I don't want my neighbors to think I'm
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  like a crazy psychic. You know what I mean?
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  Like I'm still somewhat logical, but I didn't really care.
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  So now Fast forward to to when my daughter is is telling me
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  that she encountered 3 beautiful beings, right?
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  She just says dad, they're so beautiful and it's going to be
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  okay and I'm skeptical. I'm still looking and I look out
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  the window and I say Sienna bright like that because she
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  kept saying they're so bright, they're so bright and we have a
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  street light that's out there. You can just see one of the
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  street lights from the window, She says no, no, no, no Dad,
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  nothing like that. They are bright and beautiful.
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  And now I'm like, OK, And she says God heard your prayer and
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  now I'm like choked up. I'm like, OK, this kid is
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  flipping the whole entire thing upside down on me.
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  I'm having like a moment that I can't explain.
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  And she says Dad, God heard your prayer.
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  And they're so beautiful. And you don't need to worry,
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  Dad. God's pleased, she said.
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  God's pleased with your prayer and this.
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  This wrecked me, you know? And so she goes on just to tell
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  me how beautiful they are. And I'm trying to extract as
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  much information as I can from her.
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  But. It's just it wrecked me, you
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  know, put me on this, this, this journey where it's like I am, I
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  am humbled because, like, I I like, who am I?
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  Did I pray, right? Because I felt like I was really
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  angry at God when I prayed. I didn't like from what I knew
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  or like what I was like hearing about Christianity.
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  I'm like, that's not the right way to come to him, you know,
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  like out of just like, help me. Are you there?
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  Are you real? Like, you know, just this is
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  like wild prayer I had. And Oh yeah, she did going to
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  tell me that that the three angels that that she had met
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  were the three that were going to take me, Riley and her into
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  heaven. And she said, Dad, don't worry.
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  It's not going to be too long. And I remember keep saying,
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  like, what do you mean by it's not going to be too long?
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  She said Dad, Dad, don't worry. And she's just little like she's
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  others. Just don't know how she could
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  ever have a vocabulary for this stuff.
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  She's saying, Dad, it's not going to be too long, Don't
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  worry. They're the ones that are going
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  to take us to God. God was pleased with your
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  prayer. It's going to be okay Dad.
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  She just kept saying that. And so, like, that wrecked me.
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  You know, I end up coming back to Pennsylvania.
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  Not by choice. You know, at the time I, you
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  know, was in in some trouble. Nothing violent, but I had to
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  appear for court in Pennsylvania.
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  They were going to expedite me. I had like my mom calls me one
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  day and like 5 or 6 police officers surround the house
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  looking for me. I'm that 2000 miles away or
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  whatever, 1000 miles away, whatever it is from Florida to
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  Lake Philadelphia. And so I'm like, in order to be
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  able to maintain normality and grow, I.
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  So I have to turn myself in, right?
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  And a lot of what my daughter had had told me that night gave
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  me the strength to face things that I was like, I'm good.
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  I don't want nothing to do with that.
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  I don't want to go there. I don't want to deal with life.
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  I don't want to be confronted by just, you know.
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  The idiot past that I had and bad decisions that I had, I like
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  was totally content with being as far as I could from where I
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  grew up and the people and and everything.
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  But she gave me by what she told me this this calm still like
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  strength. Like okay, this is this is
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  weirder than I ever thought. God had to have heard me.
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  I mean, you can't make this up like this kid is too young to
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  know this, right? Like I'm all this stuff's
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  running through my mind. So she a lot of that gave me the
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  strength to then just be like, I'm going to face everything and
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  I'm not gonna back down ever again.
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  Like I'm just gonna. And how old was your daughter?
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  She's like three, 3, 1/2 at the time.
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  Oh, she was super little, very young.
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  She's young. Yeah, that's amazing. 3 1/2
• 20:15
  years old. So And you know that it was
• 20:17
  supernatural because she doesn't have the religious background to
• 20:21
  share this kind of supernatural experience.
• 20:24
  Wow, that gives me chills. Seriously, that's awesome.
• 20:28
  Yeah. And and to just Fast forward
• 20:31
  from that, you know to contribute to my testimony, I'll
• 20:34
  come back to Pennsylvania. My sister, I'm the youngest of
• 20:38
  three. My my sister's taking me to
• 20:39
  church in Norristown and I'm here in Romans 8 Romanstown.
• 20:44
  I just, I'm remembering some verses and I'm really on this
• 20:46
  like teetertotter of like the the scripture was all who call
• 20:53
  upon the name of the Lord will be saved.
• 20:55
  And I remember thinking like, does that include me?
• 20:58
  Like in like 2013 or whatever this year was by the time I'm
• 21:01
  back and and and in the church here in PA, I'm going.
• 21:04
  But does that include me? Because like, now I'm opening
• 21:07
  the Bible and I'm reading it and I'm like, like these are ancient
• 21:10
  stories about ancient people. Like that doesn't have nothing
• 21:13
  to do with me today. But like I was asking that
• 21:15
  question, does that include me? And so I find myself in in the
• 21:20
  court and Judge Danielle decides not to lock me up.
• 21:24
  She actually gives me a purge of release agreement.
• 21:26
  She looks at me. She says, Mr. Smith, something's
• 21:28
  changed with you. You're going to do what's right.
• 21:30
  I said yes, ma'am, I'm out. So, like, I'm not going to get
• 21:33
  locked up. I have fines, I got to get my
• 21:35
  license reinstated, all this stuff.
• 21:37
  But now God's got my heart. Like I surrendered my heart And
• 21:40
  I'm like, okay, this does include me.
• 21:42
  And ever since then it's been a slow, like, bumpy.
• 21:45
  There's been plateaus, but it's been like upwards.
• 21:47
  And it's just been a wild journey.
• 21:50
  I just shared what I shared there because like.
• 21:53
  That's stuff that I left out of other climax, as I shared on my
• 21:56
  testimony. Because they're so emotional and
• 21:58
  I literally just don't want to. I'm like just like a, you know,
• 22:02
  shave my head and a beer and I'm like, I don't want to be
• 22:04
  balling, No, if you want to, please feel free.
• 22:09
  I almost started dwelling up. I I had to to mute myself
• 22:13
  because I had the sniffles as a result of how emotional I was
• 22:16
  getting through your awesome story about that.
• 22:19
  So after your your daughter had said that at age 3, how many
• 22:25
  years was it before you really felt like you gave your life to
• 22:29
  the Lord? And what was that pivotal point?
• 22:32
  Well, if it was when I was in the courtroom for the last time,
• 22:36
  I mean, I was going to church. And like I said, I remember
• 22:38
  hearing, like Romans, all called upon the name of the Lord will
• 22:41
  be saved, and there's no condemnation to those who in
• 22:43
  Christ Jesus. But I surrendered my heart.
• 22:48
  Right. Like I'm trying to walk better
• 22:50
  and cleaner. But like, there was this moment
• 22:52
  where I can't do this on my own. I my efforts are just, it is
• 22:59
  bullcrap. I have nothing to offer.
• 23:01
  I'm just worthless in all of this.
• 23:03
  But there's something about you. God, Jesus, I need you.
• 23:08
  I need you to be with me. I need you to give me the
• 23:10
  courage. I need you to reinvent me.
• 23:12
  I need you to literally come alongside of me and make sure
• 23:15
  that I can walk in a way that. Is going to going to make me be
• 23:19
  the man that you're calling me to be.
• 23:21
  Because I can't visualize what that looks like.
• 23:23
  But I know I know I'm being tugged And so so it was at that
• 23:30
  moment where like my heart surrendered.
• 23:31
  Now I'm I'm, I'm a big believer and like we continually wrestle
• 23:34
  with the flash daily and we continually surrender like in
• 23:37
  obedience, right. Like I think when the apostle
• 23:41
  Paul was talking about, for example, he's terrified of not
• 23:45
  fulfilling. This high calling in the new in
• 23:48
  the New Testament, I think he's talking about losing his reward
• 23:51
  in heaven, not his salvation. I think he was running the race
• 23:54
  for like the greater treasure treasures in heaven.
• 23:57
  I don't think he was fearful of losing his salvation.
• 23:59
  So I'm not like a once saved always saved God.
• 24:02
  But I believe that if it's a heart thing, so it depends on
• 24:05
  how our heart is before God. It depends on how we come to him
• 24:09
  and just if we're real with him or not.
• 24:10
  Like like having the reality of like we can't hide nothing from
• 24:14
  him. So if we start to talk to him
• 24:16
  like there's nothing hidden. If we start to walk like God, I
• 24:19
  know you see me stumble. I know you see me think this
• 24:21
  way. I know you see me in my
• 24:23
  mistakes. But I trust you and and I'm
• 24:26
  desiring A deeper walk with you when your word is the only light
• 24:29
  that ever showed me the time I wasted in the darkness.
• 24:32
  If we're real with ourselves like that, I think God will
• 24:36
  continue to work on us and and bring us into this place where
• 24:41
  we're usable, I guess, for Him. So that's kind of, it is really
• 24:45
  a long drawn out story. I know it might sound crazy to
• 24:47
  somebody listening, but it really is a long drawn out
• 24:51
  story. Do you think that with your
• 24:57
  daughter at age 3 saying, yo dad, I see that they're so
• 25:00
  beautiful and insinuating that there were angels?
• 25:03
  Do you think that that was a result of your mom's fervent
• 25:06
  prayers for you and your your little ones?
• 25:10
  I I don't know. That's a good question.
• 25:13
  I don't know. Did she ever say that she was
• 25:16
  praying for you? Did she ever say?
• 25:19
  She was praying for you. I had a pastor in Norristown
• 25:21
  praying for me at the time. My sister and my mother were
• 25:23
  praying for me at the time, yeah.
• 25:25
  And in Florida, we weren't attending churches.
• 25:28
  Like, I pulled a Bible out a couple times in Florida and like
• 25:32
  red. But it was more or less like it
• 25:34
  felt like I was awake and asleep at the same time at that part of
• 25:37
  life. Like I really just felt like I
• 25:39
  was. Didn't know who I was.
• 25:41
  Didn't know where I was supposed to be going.
• 25:42
  You know, I have these two beautiful kids that I need to
• 25:45
  take care of and PTSD is just spinning in my head.
• 25:48
  So to really look back on it it it had to have been someone
• 25:54
  praying for me. It, you know, God, he heard my
• 25:59
  prayer out of the mouth of a babe, he he confirms.
• 26:03
  Listen, I heard you beat the ground and cry out to me and.
• 26:08
  I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that you had to go
• 26:13
  through that with these horrible people beating you up.
• 26:18
  And I'm sure through it was only through the Lord Jesus that
• 26:20
  you've been able to forgive them and.
• 26:22
  And that he has healed your heart and your mind.
• 26:26
  And and I I can see that the Lord has really done a work in
• 26:29
  you. I can see the glow in your face
• 26:31
  and I can tell that that's from the Lord and I can see the peace
• 26:34
  in your heart. And and that's definitely,
• 26:37
  you're definitely a walking, talking millennial testimonial
• 26:41
  for what God is done in your life.
• 26:42
  That's that's amazing. That's great.
• 26:45
  So did you get into podcasting before or after you met your
• 26:49
  wife, Princess? Oh yeah.
• 26:51
  So no, We were married when I was at work and I was listening
• 26:57
  to podcasts and I was like, listening to, like, Bigfoot
• 27:00
  podcasts and like, Canary Cry radio with thousands of guns.
• 27:04
  Like I have this like mini playlist going.
• 27:07
  And other guys were kind of making fun of me because I, I,
• 27:12
  like, didn't really have nobody to talk about the stuff with.
• 27:14
  So I bring it up a little bit, you know, like Tesla waters with
• 27:16
  like other Christians and other people.
• 27:19
  And it was like, get out of here with that, Like, what are you
• 27:21
  talking about? Like it was just like that's
• 27:23
  myth, that's legend, you know? And I remember even people using
• 27:26
  some scriptures to try to make me seem like I was in error.
• 27:31
  Surely you do error from the scriptures, brother, right?
• 27:33
  Like I survive. I'm getting but I'm like I don't
• 27:36
  care. Well, you guys say, I was
• 27:38
  testing the waters, right? But I know what God is saying in
• 27:41
  my heart. I know that the things that are
• 27:43
  being pressed upon me, it's there's great exploits there yet
• 27:46
  to be done. Not at the time knowing that the
• 27:50
  scriptures would say things like it's the glory of God to conceal
• 27:53
  the matter, but the duty of, you know, the Princess to seek it
• 27:55
  out. But now I start a podcast and I
• 27:57
  just had this crazy idea. I think I was listening to Basil
• 28:00
  and Gonz at the time, and all of this stuff's going on in my
• 28:03
  mind. I have this like personal
• 28:05
  journey where it's not just like.
• 28:07
  I'm infatuated with someone else's story.
• 28:09
  But like, I literally am wrestling through, how do I make
• 28:11
  sense of my own story? Like, how do I look somebody in
• 28:13
  the eyes, sit in front of them and be like, yes, this happened
• 28:16
  to me, like, how do I do that, right?
• 28:18
  Because there's just like so much for me to try to make sense
• 28:21
  of that. I'm like, why don't I take a
• 28:24
  step of faith and start, start a podcast?
• 28:27
  Let me just take a step. I'm going to start talking about
• 28:30
  what's on my mind, what's going on, and capture this growth
• 28:33
  experience to see, to document it in a way.
• 28:38
  I knew I wasn't alone, but I know that nobody else was
• 28:41
  around. That was like fanning the faint,
• 28:44
  the flame of faith in me. They weren't.
• 28:46
  They was always like, get out of here with that.
• 28:48
  Like, I saw I'm like, no, no, no, there's something here.
• 28:51
  And I kind of just followed that, that talking.
• 28:53
  So yeah, I think it was like 2018, I was preparing to do a
• 28:57
  podcast, but 2019. A friend of mine, Nick Long,
• 29:01
  does this Jacob's Ladder Challenge, which is like.
• 29:04
  He's on this like a ladder workout piece of equipment, but
• 29:07
  he does the height of Mount Everest.
• 29:09
  I forget what it is. I think it's like 8 or 9000
• 29:11
  feet. So he does that in in steps.
• 29:14
  It takes him like 8 hours to do it.
• 29:16
  He does it, catches local traction, you know, he's got
• 29:20
  this like, muscle shirt on that says give God the glory.
• 29:22
  So when they ask him why he did what he did, he holds up the
• 29:24
  shirt and he's like, I'm just giving God the glory.
• 29:27
  And like, me and him were like laughing about that.
• 29:31
  We're like, man, this is like, so cool like.
• 29:33
  Let's tell that story. So like, actually the very first
• 29:36
  podcast, Not of This World, it was Jacob's Ladder was episode
• 29:40
  one with me and Nick talking about me and him both doing just
• 29:43
  like radical crazy stuff of faith.
• 29:45
  Like we're like, we're going to go against the norm, we're going
• 29:47
  to go inculcate these areas, and we don't care if you guys like
• 29:50
  it or not. It was just like kind of
• 29:52
  starting starting the podcast. It was there so that with the
• 29:56
  Millennium Muster seed, I just reinvented it.
• 29:59
  Based upon, like you know, prayer and deep dives.
• 30:01
  Guys like Chuck Missler especially for like fundamental
• 30:05
  on helping me see how the word and the depth of the word of
• 30:10
  God, it surpasses our wildest imagination.
• 30:13
  And there is no sacred secular divide like we can run to the
• 30:16
  word. With all these topics, all these
• 30:18
  questions, it doesn't matter what what's going on.
• 30:22
  Like the the word is is there to give us edification to.
• 30:26
  Teach us to rebuke us to to encourage us.
• 30:28
  Right. And so the millennial mustard,
• 30:31
  see, was born out of just. I felt small and insignificant
• 30:34
  in my generation. I didn't.
• 30:37
  I just didn't really feel like recognized or like I had impact.
• 30:40
  But I knew that God could do something great if I just
• 30:44
  surrendered it to him. So I felt like I had this little
• 30:46
  tiny thing to offer. In a weird way, that's kind of
• 30:48
  how it how it came out. So yeah, well, I love the name
• 30:52
  millennial mustard seed. I think I told you last time how
• 30:55
  much I just think it's the, the, the most awesome podcast name
• 30:59
  for millennials. And And I love how when Jesus
• 31:03
  talks about the mustard seed, that if you have faith the size
• 31:05
  of a mustard seed, you could say that this mountain be removed
• 31:08
  and flung into the sea. It should be done for you.
• 31:10
  And I always like thought about like, gosh, how small is the
• 31:13
  mustard seed? And and I heard it's pretty
• 31:15
  small. It's I mean it's smaller than
• 31:16
  the typical seed and and if you think of the smallest seed it's
• 31:20
  even smaller than that almost like a little speck.
• 31:23
  And and it's it's amazing that you being a quote millennial
• 31:27
  have have faith at least the size of a mustard seed and
• 31:30
  you're you're scattering those seeds of faith among your peers
• 31:33
  and people that are younger and older like myself and that
• 31:39
  you're really you share it boldly and with love and I can
• 31:43
  see that you really have a heart to to win the lost generation
• 31:47
  for Christ. And and I think that that is
• 31:49
  amazing and awesome. You know so if anybody happens
• 31:52
  to you know maybe they say and and shake their fist or whatever
• 31:56
  like oh this generation you know millennials and why Generation Y
• 31:59
  and seeing everything but God is reaching the young folk that God
• 32:03
  is reaching. You know the the real young ones
• 32:06
  all the way up to you know through your generation and
• 32:10
  through mine which is generation X.
• 32:12
  And I forget that the whole like what I know generation X is like
• 32:17
  I think the 70s and mid 80s and I think millennials are right
• 32:20
  after that I believe. I think more what?
• 32:23
  85 to 95, I forget. They they say it's like 84.
• 32:27
  I think to like 99 is like OK that's.
• 32:30
  Right. But I've heard it's.
• 32:32
  I've heard other people say no, it goes all the way to 2000.
• 32:35
  It goes all the way back to 1979.
• 32:37
  I've heard, but I oh wow, I don't remember the year. 2000
• 32:41
  you know, like I'm like, I don't know, 12 years old and the Y2K,
• 32:45
  right? All that stuff, so right.
• 32:46
  Oh my gosh. Wow, that's amazing.
• 32:48
  Kind of right, right smack that in the middle of the millennial
• 32:50
  generation there. So.
• 32:52
  So how did you meet your lovely wife who was Filipina?
• 32:55
  How did you meet your lovely wife, Princess?
• 32:58
  Yeah. So we talked online as just like
• 33:01
  friends and she was in Jersey and and I'm right outside of
• 33:05
  Philly. So there's a bridge apart, You
• 33:07
  know, we talked for like a year or two and she wanted to learn
• 33:10
  English better. And so I'm like okay.
• 33:12
  Well, I'll help you with your pronunciation and just help you
• 33:15
  with English and. The first time, you know,
• 33:17
  because it was just through, like, messaging.
• 33:18
  Like chat rooms were like really big.
• 33:20
  And, you know, like social media was like huge.
• 33:23
  Then, not as much Now for me, it's almost like overwhelming.
• 33:27
  But like, then it was like kind of cool because it was like
• 33:29
  brand new, you know what I mean? And so I remember the first time
• 33:34
  I talked with her on the phone. I just like, I melted when I
• 33:36
  heard her voice when she was trying to pronounce things.
• 33:38
  I'm like, you got the cutest voice I've ever heard in my
• 33:40
  life, so. This is, this is great.
• 33:43
  I'll help you. And we just talked for probably
• 33:45
  like a year or two, just as basic friends like let's just, I
• 33:50
  want to learn about your culture.
• 33:52
  And she wanted to learn about America because she was newer to
• 33:54
  America at the time. And I remember when my
• 33:58
  grandfather died and he was like the head of the family.
• 34:02
  I mean our family like slowly got ripped apart as all these
• 34:04
  years went on. But he was kind of like a glue,
• 34:07
  like he did Sunday dinners. Like everybody would go there on
• 34:10
  Sunday and he would cook a big meal like every weekend.
• 34:12
  So that was cool. But he passes away and I get a
• 34:17
  FaceTime call from Princess my my wife now and you know, she's
• 34:22
  wearing all black and she's like, yeah, I guess she had she
• 34:26
  had found out through maybe Facebook at the time that he
• 34:28
  passed and she's just like, I was hoping you were okay.
• 34:31
  I wanted to check on you and I'm like, I'm good.
• 34:33
  I just don't really feel like talking.
• 34:34
  And like I noticed throughout like a, it was probably like a
• 34:37
  week or two. Every time she would reach out
• 34:40
  to me or that I would even check like social media at all, she
• 34:43
  had a picture. She was dressed in all black.
• 34:44
  I'm like, so I asked her, I'm like, what's going on here?
• 34:49
  Like, like, what does that mean? She's like, well, that's how we
• 34:51
  mourn for somebody that we care about.
• 34:54
  So we we dress in all black after somebody that our heart is
• 34:57
  for and they have a devastating loss, whether it be a job or
• 35:00
  family member. It was like a cultural thing.
• 35:02
  So she was expressing it, but never like.
• 35:05
  Hey, I'm doing this like, she just did it.
• 35:07
  And like, it didn't matter if I knew it or not, She actually was
• 35:09
  just mourning for me. So I'm like, you're amazing.
• 35:14
  Like like, we're going to go get a meal together.
• 35:16
  So we went and got a meal, we meet up, and the first time I
• 35:19
  laid, I was on her at a vision of marrying her.
• 35:22
  Well. I mean, I seen her in a wedding
• 35:24
  dress and she was smiling at me and I knew I was the groomsman.
• 35:27
  So I'm like, that's awesome. This is crazy.
• 35:30
  I'm like, OK, so yeah, now. Seven years of marriage?
• 35:36
  Oh, that's awesome. Seven years of wonderful wedded
• 35:41
  bliss And and So what? So you so you met her nine years
• 35:46
  ago then or eight years ago? Oh, that's.
• 35:49
  And it was online, did you say? Yep.
• 35:52
  And I'm sorry, what was the what was the platform?
• 35:54
  Was it Facebook or? Yeah, it was.
• 35:56
  It was Facebook like. Was probably like a messenger
• 36:00
  group or like the social media of some sort.
• 36:02
  Yeah. I mean, we connected on like
• 36:04
  Facebook. Like we talked for like 2 years
• 36:06
  on Facebook at the time. So, oh, that's wonderful.
• 36:10
  Does she share this, the same Christian faith as you?
• 36:13
  Yeah. Is she more Catholic?
• 36:14
  There was. She's from the Philippines,
• 36:16
  which is the only Christian nation in the Far East, but
• 36:18
  they're like Catholic. It's like a lot Catholicism
• 36:21
  there. They're surrounded by obviously
• 36:23
  like Buddhists and and Muslim nations and stuff like that.
• 36:26
  So she understood. You know, like the principles of
• 36:31
  like, because where I'm at in my faith walk at the time, it's
• 36:33
  like I didn't know a lot about the Bible or like what was going
• 36:38
  to happen in my life following after Christ.
• 36:41
  But like, we both knew Jesus Christ was Lord.
• 36:43
  We both knew that's the name above all names.
• 36:46
  Like there's no way getting around that one.
• 36:49
  But she came from like a Catholic background and then she
• 36:52
  had a lot of missionaries coming to her country when she was
• 36:54
  growing up. So there was some religious
• 36:55
  confusion there. You know, she had seen Mormons
• 36:57
  come through. She had seen all these different
• 37:00
  groups come through. And everybody's like, no, we're
• 37:02
  right. We're going to baptize you.
• 37:03
  So, like, these people just come through every year or two into
• 37:05
  these villages over there and like, you know, hook people up
• 37:08
  with some clothes and baptize them and they're like the fresh,
• 37:10
  new cool religious thing. And then they disappear.
• 37:13
  And then a year later, you know, you get these other groups.
• 37:15
  So there was, there was some confusion there in it.
• 37:18
  And I think a lot for me and her was really just taking that
• 37:21
  journey together of like, well, let's.
• 37:23
  Let's read the word and let's walk this thing out.
• 37:27
  You know what I mean? So, but yeah, she's a Christian,
• 37:29
  obviously. Yeah.
• 37:30
  But I think we've both grown a lot since since 9, almost 10
• 37:34
  years ago together. Wow.
• 37:38
  And you have a a lovely son, Adam, and he is 6 years old.
• 37:41
  Is that right? Yeah.
• 37:42
  Okay. Well, that's wonderful.
• 37:45
  That's that's a huge blessing. It's amazing how the Lord can
• 37:47
  bring people together through the Internet.
• 37:49
  I met my husband through the Internet as well and I have,
• 37:53
  that's my story, of course. But So what would you say was
• 37:59
  like the main thing that like caused you to like really like I
• 38:08
  guess become like a red pilled Christian cuz I mean there's
• 38:10
  there's Christians that are quote blue pilled or or people
• 38:13
  that kind of don't believe the way we do that believe the
• 38:17
  mainstream narrative on the news.
• 38:19
  And then there's the red pilled Christians who they believe in
• 38:23
  alternative narrative of history I guess.
• 38:27
  So what caused you to to kind of like switch gears?
• 38:31
  Well, I'll share two things real quick and then I'm going to ask
• 38:33
  you some questions. Sure.
• 38:35
  Absolutely. So with with regards to my wife
• 38:40
  contributing to, well, let me back up a little bit and I'll
• 38:42
  share. I've had supernatural
• 38:44
  experiences throughout my life, so like, I didn't know where to
• 38:48
  go with that. Once I started reading the word,
• 38:50
  I found out that's not. Uncommon in the word like when
• 38:56
  you you're seeking God and you have a calling in your life and
• 38:58
  you're actually willing to go there and acknowledge you know
• 39:03
  the name above all names and you're willing to actually say I
• 39:06
  am going to a lot this space instead of going out and
• 39:08
  partying, instead of focusing on this or watching movies or
• 39:10
  playing video games, I am going to dive into the word you start
• 39:14
  to find well, it's it's almost like a part of that journey.
• 39:18
  Like it should almost look. And I'm not saying like, alien
• 39:22
  spaceships, little green men, listen, I mean that stuff.
• 39:25
  I know that stuff happens. But what I'll say is, like, when
• 39:27
  I say supernatural, I mean even just dreams or just just having
• 39:32
  a prophetic word, like knowing like this this is going to come
• 39:36
  to pass. And then God confirming it
• 39:38
  through somebody else when you never spoke it out loud.
• 39:40
  And then it happens, and then you find yourself praising God
• 39:43
  and you just feel filled up. That's supernatural for me, too.
• 39:46
  I'm not. When I say supernatural, I don't
• 39:48
  just mean like. Bigfoot.
• 39:50
  Like, yeah, I believe that that fits in there too.
• 39:52
  But so, so, like, I'm riddled with all of these supernatural
• 39:55
  things happening. And that's the reason why I just
• 39:57
  wanted to limit it, because I don't want to go down too many
• 39:59
  rabbit trails and start talking about all of it right now.
• 40:02
  But with my wife, one of the contributing turning points was
• 40:06
  here I have my wife. You know, we are Marriage is the
• 40:10
  highest honored relationship outside of our relationship of
• 40:13
  God. So as like, we are growing and,
• 40:16
  you know, we're talking and just getting to know each other
• 40:18
  better, I noticed that she would talk about her childhood and
• 40:21
  things she experienced and seen. And it was no, it wasn't without
• 40:26
  memes. It was without jokes.
• 40:27
  It was like literally these these creatures exist and their
• 40:31
  culture is not just folklore and like seeing.
• 40:34
  And I would ask, well, why don't, why don't you want to
• 40:37
  talk about it with anybody else? And she would say because you
• 40:39
  guys would make you Americans would make fun of us for this.
• 40:43
  And I'm like, well, probably, yeah, because I get a hard time
• 40:47
  too. So like, yeah, you're a
• 40:48
  foreigner with an accent. They'll probably really shake
• 40:50
  you down for it, right? But then she says, no, no, no,
• 40:54
  your culture. You guys play video games about
• 40:57
  this. You watch movies about it.
• 40:59
  You read, you know, made-up stories about it.
• 41:02
  You sit around at campfires and do your little marshmallows and
• 41:05
  tell these creepy little stories.
• 41:07
  But she says we live that overseas.
• 41:09
  Like, we don't go outside in the dark.
• 41:11
  Our prayers are warfare, battle prayers to protect us.
• 41:14
  Because literally, you know, stuff happens and she's like,
• 41:17
  you guys don't get that here. And that like, hit me so hard
• 41:21
  because, like, here's my beautiful little wife, you know,
• 41:24
  later night we're talking. And she's dropping tears as
• 41:26
  she's pouring her heart out to me about how uncomfortable it is
• 41:30
  for for her and people like her to be able to try to talk about
• 41:33
  this stuff. Because we're just like we're
• 41:36
  too like just too fake is modern day Babylon, which is too fake.
• 41:40
  We just go, go, go. Unless we can make money on that
• 41:43
  story, we don't want to hear it. Like, like that's this
• 41:45
  mentality. And I'm like that's disgusting.
• 41:47
  But it layered me deeper into like there's no microphone on
• 41:51
  the she has nothing. She's not making this up.
• 41:55
  She has nothing to do from it. If anything, she would be
• 41:57
  putting herself at risk for me to be, like questioned her
• 42:00
  culture or be like, no, I don't want to travel to your country.
• 42:03
  Or you know what I mean? Like, she's actually at risk of
• 42:06
  loss and if she says it too loud, at risk of loss of
• 42:10
  reputation locally, you know, within family and within
• 42:13
  whatever you want to call it. So like, once she started to
• 42:16
  help me realize, like, honey, we don't laugh about this.
• 42:18
  Like, we don't go outside after dark.
• 42:20
  Like, this is very serious to us.
• 42:22
  You walk this way, you be careful what you talk about.
• 42:24
  Like, you always, Right. And it was just like, I'm like,
• 42:27
  man, that's not an American thing.
• 42:29
  Like Americans are. Like, that's a whole.
• 42:31
  So I became culturally, I started to shift and understand
• 42:36
  and that that was a a really big solidifying point because then
• 42:39
  it helped me to, like, not be so afraid to dive into things I
• 42:42
  experienced and be like, well, you know what?
• 42:43
  I'm not going crazy. Like I have all these notes out
• 42:47
  of things I experienced. You know, like, I know this
• 42:49
  stuff happened, but like, I always kind of wanted to put it
• 42:52
  away because it wasn't, it wasn't cool or like acceptable
• 42:55
  at the time. It was like, like you.
• 42:58
  It just didn't fit in. So I always felt like, put it on
• 43:00
  the back burner because I don't know how to unpack it.
• 43:03
  But like, my wife was a big part of me having the confidence just
• 43:06
  to be like, you know what? I got to run through and wash
• 43:08
  all of this against the word of God and just not be bold,
• 43:12
  understand it all. So is my daughter when she's 3,
• 43:14
  1/2 years older than my wife, these two magnificent women, You
• 43:20
  know that that really helped and these pivotal points in my life
• 43:25
  to just really be like, no, you know, trust your gut, trust your
• 43:29
  story, trust the word of God above all and be careful with
• 43:34
  these things. So that was a big turning point
• 43:37
  for me, Her specifically so. That's amazing.
• 43:43
  You know, I don't want to say my friend's name, but his wife is
• 43:47
  Filipina at one of our Christian podcast friends and I'm not sure
• 43:51
  if I should say his name because I didn't ask him because it's
• 43:54
  his story and it's his wife's story.
• 43:56
  But I he's such a. Great guy, that.
• 43:59
  I have a feeling that he wouldn't mind, but just to to
• 44:01
  make 100% sure he's going to be anonymous.
• 44:03
  But, but actually what your wife is saying to you and her
• 44:08
  experiences resemble sort of what.
• 44:12
  Our other, our mutual friend's wife said and I I actually met
• 44:17
  them both and I I said please, please come both of you on my
• 44:20
  show and share your experience, you know.
• 44:23
  And then she says, Oh no, I'm not into you know, and she's
• 44:25
  definitely not into podcasting or whatever.
• 44:27
  And she feels shy about it. So now I understand the the
• 44:30
  cultural context of it, that she has everything to lose because
• 44:35
  she's talking to an American audience.
• 44:37
  And if American people around her get wins, they might think
• 44:41
  that she's. Or something.
• 44:42
  But, but, but that's the total opposite.
• 44:45
  You know, we're the ones that are cuckoo because we have
• 44:48
  totally blinded ourself. Yeah, we've blinded ourself to
• 44:52
  this other reality. You know we if somebody says
• 44:55
  that. You know, they're seeing things
• 44:57
  or hearing things that are supernormal, supernatural, that,
• 45:01
  you know, we give them drugs and medication.
• 45:03
  We put them into an insane asylum and to get locked up
• 45:07
  where is over there in the Philippines and and among the
• 45:11
  red pilled Christians or the OR the at least the people that are
• 45:14
  open to the supernatural reality, we realize that there
• 45:16
  is that other dimension that we can't see unless God.
• 45:21
  Takes the veil off and then we we see that dimension.
• 45:24
  Obviously that happened for you when you had your auto body
• 45:26
  experience as a kid. It happened to your lovely
• 45:29
  daughter and it has happened to your wife in the Philippines.
• 45:34
  You know, it was interesting. I had this dream.
• 45:36
  I feel like I should share this. I had this dream when I was
• 45:39
  probably like maybe 10 years ago and.
• 45:44
  And it was just a very, very quick dream.
• 45:47
  I had this dream that I was in Mexico and it was at night time
• 45:51
  and I was walking around the street.
• 45:53
  I've never been to Mexico, Okay. And but they were saying you
• 45:59
  know hey you, you get you get into the house get into the
• 46:02
  house. You know the the Chupacabra is
• 46:05
  is running around or whatever. You know and I'm like what?
• 46:07
  Huh. What do you mean?
• 46:08
  And so I so everybody ran into the house and I saw this
• 46:11
  creature walk by. This is way before blurry
• 46:14
  creatures. This is way before I became Red
• 46:15
  Pill. Probably like in 2006, I had
• 46:17
  this dream. So this, this big evil creature
• 46:21
  monster would would walk by the streets, right?
• 46:24
  And I never forgot that dream because I'm like, okay, why on
• 46:27
  earth did I have a dream I was in Mexico, I've never been
• 46:29
  there. And why would I have a dream
• 46:31
  that that everybody was getting into the house while this
• 46:33
  strange creature was was walking down the road.
• 46:36
  And I have a feeling that maybe that's something that happens in
• 46:40
  the Philippines where they, like you said that they don't leave
• 46:42
  their house. But anyway, so our our mutual
• 46:45
  friend's wife said something to those effects.
• 46:47
  She didn't talk about the little.
• 46:48
  People, but she talked about this supernatural dog like a
• 46:52
  food dog or whatever that would appear to her her, I think her
• 46:57
  grandmother or grandfather was a shaman or something like that.
• 47:00
  And it would this dog would appear and and they would do
• 47:03
  this incantation or whatever and then the food, food would
• 47:06
  supernaturally rise from the pot.
• 47:09
  And it was it was not Christian, it was it was witchcraft.
• 47:14
  So there was that it. And the some other stories I
• 47:18
  forget, but I don't doubt that this other Filipino wife I I'm
• 47:23
  sure that she probably has had experiences with with little
• 47:26
  people. Oh, and another thing she said
• 47:28
  was that portals, like some people would just escape into
• 47:31
  portals and they won't, might not be seen for a few months and
• 47:34
  all of a sudden they're they're there and they have these, this
• 47:37
  memory of being in this other reality.
• 47:40
  And I'm like my mind is totally blown because like you said in
• 47:44
  America, we hardly ever embrace that.
• 47:46
  And when we do, when, when that happens to us, you try to tell
• 47:50
  your pastor, not not all pastors, but but I think there's
• 47:53
  some pastors that are 90% of them don't want to hear it.
• 47:56
  But yeah, some of them are willing to be like, OK, what's
• 47:58
  going on, you know? Right, right.
• 48:00
  I think that there's that there's there's a growing number
• 48:03
  of pastors that are open to this.
• 48:04
  But back in the day, you know, when we're growing up, you tell
• 48:07
  somebody, you know, they're looking at you like like you
• 48:09
  know you're at. Mine or whatever.
• 48:12
  But yeah I totally I I think those are beautiful stories.
• 48:16
  When you're out you're out of body experience that maybe the
• 48:18
  Lord took you out and maybe showed you maybe that you have a
• 48:22
  spiritual body and and definitely showed showed your
• 48:25
  daughter holy angels and to comfort you to bring you to the
• 48:29
  knowledge of God for when you were in court.
• 48:32
  So that that's awesome that that's amazing.
• 48:34
  So I do have to apologize Ron to you because we try to.
• 48:39
  I was on Ron. Like 3 months ago and I yammered
• 48:42
  on and on and on about my testimonial and I promised Ron
• 48:46
  that that I would make it concise and to the point and not
• 48:50
  put all this extraneous information in there.
• 48:52
  So. So I wanna also share, share my
• 48:54
  story. And you said, Ron, that you had
• 48:56
  some questions for me too. Yeah, absolutely.
• 48:59
  And and I was so captivated by your story when you were on.
• 49:03
  I was like, I sat there and was just, I took that emotional ride
• 49:06
  with you. I'm an empathy in a lot of ways.
• 49:08
  So like, when I really want to care and listen, I will like,
• 49:11
  put everything else out of mind and focus in.
• 49:13
  And then I'll feel like, you know, just like, ah, I'm taking
• 49:17
  this ride with this person's story.
• 49:18
  So, but but I'm going to ask you what kind of come close to what
• 49:22
  you were asking me in a sense. But like, what was the defining
• 49:25
  point where you came to Christ and you realize, like, I'm all
• 49:29
  in for him? Like there's no nothing for me
• 49:32
  over there. Like, when did you make that
• 49:33
  choice to rock it out with Christ?
• 49:37
  Sure, sure. Well, I would have to say that
• 49:42
  there were a lot of things that happened to me growing up that
• 49:47
  made me really doubt the efficacy of the religion I grew
• 49:53
  up with, which was Buddhism. Because I didn't see any
• 49:56
  redemptive value in it. I'm not saying that that all
• 50:00
  Buddhists, you know, are like this or whatever, but the
• 50:02
  religion or anything like that. I mean, I love Buddhist people.
• 50:05
  I just, I'm like, I don't believe in the religion because
• 50:10
  I I believe that Jesus is the way, the truth of the life.
• 50:13
  No man comes to the Father, no one goes to heaven but by him,
• 50:16
  and there's no other name under heaven by which we must be
• 50:19
  saved. So, so in a nutshell.
• 50:23
  My, my dad and and mom were immigrants from Thailand and
• 50:27
  they moved to from from Thailand to California because their
• 50:32
  typhoon had moved to Southern California by Compton, actually.
• 50:36
  So it was a very, very modest home.
• 50:39
  And they were, they were totally in a culture shock because they
• 50:43
  went from, you know, kind of, you know, sort of city life, you
• 50:46
  know, but no gangs or anything like that to like, you know,
• 50:49
  there's like. You know right next to gangland
• 50:51
  right there and and although it wasn't as bad in the 70s you
• 50:55
  know but but my my dad and my mom were in like culture shock
• 50:58
  but my dad kind of blended in by going to goatee and things like
• 51:01
  that and and he's kind of trying to blend in you know to to the
• 51:06
  the the Mexican people over there and such and and my but my
• 51:11
  mother had a a hard time so my my dad had had moved to
• 51:14
  California because he had gotten an architectural job there and
• 51:18
  he had gotten his architectural. From the university of Thailand
• 51:22
  and so that's the main reason why he was able to to to move
• 51:26
  around and so he wanted to be a beginning draftsman over there
• 51:30
  And so while while he was assimilating into the culture
• 51:33
  with the language and the friends from work and things
• 51:36
  like that. My mother was not and she was
• 51:39
  having a hard time with the the assimilating into the culture
• 51:42
  and the language and and not making a whole lot of friends
• 51:44
  and she felt very depressed after she had, she had me, she
• 51:47
  had postpartum depression and so unfortunately.
• 51:50
  My mother had a lot of mental illness when I was probably
• 51:54
  starting at age 5 or 6 and so unfortunately I saw her go in
• 51:58
  and out of of mental episodes unfortunately.
• 52:02
  And so my my parents had separated when I was 8 and my my
• 52:08
  mom lived in Thailand when my dad was here, but I was raised
• 52:11
  as an American girl from age 0 to, you know, anyway, but so.
• 52:19
  My dad and I got along really, really well from age 8 to 12.
• 52:22
  Like he was my best friend. He was my pal.
• 52:24
  He was the only one I had, basically.
• 52:26
  But my gosh, when I was age 12, I got into a lot of occult
• 52:30
  stuff. Like I know a lot of Christians
• 52:32
  or just people in general don't think there's anything wrong
• 52:35
  with horoscopes and astrology, but.
• 52:38
  But I was like really obsessed with it and I would read it
• 52:41
  every day and follow follow it to the T and and I felt like I I
• 52:46
  let the enemy in. I I really felt like at some
• 52:50
  point that it was that an evil spirit had come in and and I
• 52:54
  know that for sure because the there was a book called Demons
• 52:59
  in the World Today by Doctor Merrill F Unger and.
• 53:03
  The page that I had opened up to was about demons and fortune
• 53:06
  telling, but that that's a little bit further down the
• 53:08
  road. But but when I was 12, I really
• 53:11
  got into the dabbling into the cult with astrology and
• 53:15
  numerology and things like that. And there's nothing wrong with
• 53:18
  biblical astrology or even biblical numerology, but the but
• 53:22
  Satan can twist everything. And so I really felt at that
• 53:27
  point that the enemy had gotten a foothold in my life through
• 53:30
  that, even though it was just a little, a little small, little
• 53:32
  pinprick. Of of interest in the occult and
• 53:37
  also there's a possibility that whatever spirits that were
• 53:42
  causing my mother's mental illness, and yes, I do believe
• 53:46
  that mental illness can be organic, but it can also be
• 53:48
  spiritual too. So I believe that whatever
• 53:50
  spirits that maybe was in my family bloodline was was
• 53:54
  oppressing me plus the involvement of the occult and
• 53:56
  things like that. So I became.
• 53:58
  With I had. Dad's Selfesteem was suicidal
• 54:05
  and depressed, I would say from age 1213 and 14 and and then my
• 54:09
  dad and I would argue and, you know, and really got into a lot
• 54:15
  of verbal fisticuffs and things like that because I I wanted to
• 54:18
  break away from his paternal instincts or what have you.
• 54:24
  But I remember feeling that sense of hopelessness one time
• 54:26
  when I was 13, just crying. My dad and I had gotten into the
• 54:31
  argument. Because I wanted to be this
• 54:34
  rebellious American girl and I was sticking out of my window
• 54:37
  and and meeting friends and things like that, you know, And
• 54:40
  that was definitely not something that he grew up with
• 54:42
  like. So my dad, my dad was you know,
• 54:46
  old like traditional like, you know, you went to school and you
• 54:49
  went, you pleased your parents, you did your chores, you went to
• 54:52
  sleep, you know, rinse, repeat. And with me as an American girl,
• 54:56
  I wanted to have friends and I wanted to dress pretty, you
• 54:59
  know, with the the right makeup and earrings and and.
• 55:02
  And and clothing and things like that.
• 55:04
  So that caused, you know, kind of a rift between us.
• 55:08
  And so I became rebellious, like I said, sneaking out the window
• 55:12
  to meet, you know, friends and what have you.
• 55:14
  And I remember we got to an argument and I and, you know, it
• 55:18
  was really a sharp argument. And I remember my, my friend and
• 55:22
  my friend's mom was there and I just started crying and I
• 55:25
  started weeping in my hands, like, what's the meaning of
• 55:28
  life? I don't understand why I was
• 55:30
  born, you know? And I know it sounds.
• 55:32
  Ridiculous now, but I mean I was really in in my heart of hearts
• 55:36
  I was crying and weeping out of sorrow that you can't believe
• 55:41
  just because. And my mom had already died.
• 55:44
  She had committed suicide unfortunately when I was 12.
• 55:48
  So it was like a year after she had committed suicide that.
• 55:53
  You know, I was also questioning the meaning of life, you know,
• 55:56
  and in the things I was, I was telling you about the low self
• 55:58
  esteem and the involvement in the occult.
• 56:01
  And then and then who knows, maybe those, those same spirits
• 56:03
  that you know had had influenced my mother to commit suicide.
• 56:07
  We're also trying to drag me down, you know, And so a year,
• 56:12
  so that was, I remember asking myself that question, Why am I
• 56:16
  alive? Why am I alive and crying?
• 56:19
  And then in I remember 87. To December of 87 and I remember
• 56:24
  this date because there were some Gideons that went to the
• 56:28
  the school bus when I was 14 and they they were handing it to the
• 56:34
  the kids on the school bus and they were freshmen all the way
• 56:36
  up to seniors on the bus. And I remember, you know, I
• 56:39
  don't know about Philly, but it it.
• 56:42
  I don't know how they're, how receptive they are to the Bible
• 56:46
  or or Christianity or whatever. It might be the same as
• 56:49
  California. But there there was a lot of
• 56:50
  kids that were would take the Bible and and like start ripping
• 56:53
  up pages, you know, like some of the bratty kids in the back
• 56:56
  ripping out pages of lighting it on fire.
• 56:59
  But I I took the little Bible and and I I brought it home with
• 57:02
  me. And I remember in the back there
• 57:04
  was a place to write your name. And I.
• 57:06
  So I put, I put Geralyn Cowie Wong.
• 57:08
  I go, OK, well, I'm going to write my name, you know, because
• 57:11
  it's my, it's my little. Bible and but I remember also
• 57:14
  getting another Bible from this Thai Presbyterian Church that
• 57:19
  that was friends with my my late mom and dad.
• 57:22
  So. So that's Thai Presbyterian
• 57:24
  minister. Had had officiated the funeral
• 57:29
  for my mom which is very heartbreaking to to know that
• 57:33
  she was in so much pain and turmoil and agony that that she
• 57:36
  committed suicide and my heart was broken my my dad's heart was
• 57:41
  broken. But it almost seems like I
• 57:44
  turned that sadness to to anger and rebelliousness towards my
• 57:48
  dad and and and that was, I would say that was the turning
• 57:53
  point, right there was. I was, I was depressed.
• 57:57
  I was angry. I was suicidal and and I
• 58:01
  remember that in my freshman year I was, I think I was May of
• 58:06
  88 and I was 15 and I'm sorry I was just about turned 15 and or
• 58:13
  maybe I was already 15, sorry I was already 15, yes.
• 58:16
  And in May of 88, and there was this boy in front of me sitting
• 58:21
  in my freshman class in my theater arts class.
• 58:24
  And he had this book that was called Demons in the World Today
• 58:28
  by doctor Marila Funger. And And I said, hey, can I
• 58:32
  borrow that? Because it had this, this.
• 58:34
  I was in the horror movies too. So the cover of it was a picture
• 58:38
  of a woman sitting at a table really solemnly.
• 58:42
  And there and behind her, was an apparition of her husband.
• 58:45
  And that's what piqued my interest.
• 58:48
  And and I said, oh, it looks like a ghost book because I was
• 58:50
  really into, you know, reading and watching The Amityville
• 58:53
  Horror, you know, The Shining and things like that.
• 58:55
  You know, don't watch those movies by the way, folks,
• 58:58
  really, you know, demonic evil movies and what have you.
• 59:01
  But anyway, but the Lord actually used that to pique my
• 59:04
  interest in this book because it had this, the spooky cover.
• 59:07
  And I say, hey, can I borrow that?
• 59:09
  And. Is that sure?
• 59:11
  And so I opened it up and the the chapter that it opened up to
• 59:16
  was demons and fortune telling. And it said that those who are
• 59:20
  in into the occult such as astrology, numerology and
• 59:24
  psychic stuff and other type of divinational practices open the
• 59:31
  door to to demon experience. I know that sounds ridiculous to
• 59:35
  a lot of people, even Christians, which is.
• 59:39
  Really sad because Christians are supposed to believe in the
• 59:41
  supernatural. But I it just it was that was
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  the defining moment that that God really spoke to my heart.
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  And I I started weeping tears of joy.
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  And the next several months after that, people would say,
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  Jerry, I don't know what happened to you, but you've
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  changed. I mean, I don't know if I at
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  that point. I I wasn't like a full-fledged
• 1:00:00
  Christian yet, but kind of like you went through sort of these
• 1:00:02
  different phases like black to Gray into white.
• 1:00:05
  So that at that point was like my Gray phase because I I cried
• 1:00:08
  out to God and I said God, I I cried.
• 1:00:11
  I said I didn't know what was wrong.
• 1:00:13
  Forgive me. I I didn't know what was wrong
• 1:00:15
  God. But then I wasn't sure who God
• 1:00:17
  was. Was that Jesus was that, you
• 1:00:20
  know? And I wasn't sure, you know.
• 1:00:22
  Who God was but I just knew I just knew that it was it was God
• 1:00:26
  that that I needed to have a relationship with.
• 1:00:31
  But but later on a year a year later after that my friend
• 1:00:35
  invited me to church mid-september of 89 and that's
• 1:00:40
  when I prayed this in his prayer and and realized that Jesus was
• 1:00:43
  God and the only way to God and and I received Jesus in my heart
• 1:00:47
  at that at that moment there and I I wish I could say that it was
• 1:00:52
  all Peaches and roses after that but it wasn't it had lots of
• 1:00:56
  hills and valleys ups and downs. But overall the the Lord I don't
• 1:01:02
  know for some reason I have I think of this analogy of a cat
• 1:01:04
  being dropped off being dropped off from a roof that the cat
• 1:01:08
  lands on his feet. Well I feel like I'm that cat
• 1:01:11
  and and the only reason why I landed on my feet was because of
• 1:01:13
  Jesus was because of God because I had made some stupid mistakes.
• 1:01:17
  I know you had made some mistakes before you got saved.
• 1:01:21
  I made them after I got saved. Oh, no, I made them.
• 1:01:25
  I made them after too. Oh, OK, you did before.
• 1:01:27
  No, it wasn't. All right.
• 1:01:28
  Yeah it's a long drawn out story.
• 1:01:30
  Me too. Me too and and you know that
• 1:01:34
  that I went on and on about about all the details and stuff
• 1:01:36
  like that and and our audience for the sake of brevity probably
• 1:01:39
  doesn't want to listen to all the little sort of details of of
• 1:01:42
  our mistakes. But to make a Long story short,
• 1:01:46
  I finally I would say I I I did have definitely, I had
• 1:01:52
  definitely the conversion experience from from darkness to
• 1:01:55
  light. But then I kind of went back to
• 1:01:58
  my old ways and the Bible says that that if if a demon leaves
• 1:02:04
  its home and it calls you your your soul, it's home.
• 1:02:07
  If a demon leaves its home and and wanders around trying to
• 1:02:13
  find another home but then he gets this idea aha, I'll go back
• 1:02:18
  to the home from originally that that I came back and sees that
• 1:02:22
  it's swept and an empty it brings back seven other worse
• 1:02:26
  spirits than itself. So if you if you come to know
• 1:02:30
  the Lord and you backslide then the the the last day your your
• 1:02:36
  second condition can be worse than the first.
• 1:02:38
  So I feel like because I backslid that I allowed some
• 1:02:41
  things into my life that that that could have been avoidable.
• 1:02:46
  But but thank God, like I said, the the cat analogy, I felt like
• 1:02:50
  the Lord had, you know redeemed me.
• 1:02:53
  And and finally I I did. I got, I went through some dark
• 1:02:56
  times, very dark times from age 20 to 2728.
• 1:03:01
  But I met my my husband on the Internet as well.
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  I put my profile on oneandonly.com and I had
• 1:03:10
  actually Internet dated 9899, 2002, 1001 and so.
• 1:03:14
  So February of 2001, my husband, I met and it was a couple of
• 1:03:19
  dates and I kind of shrugged him off because I because he was
• 1:03:24
  fairly introverted and I'm very extroverted and I'm like, oh,
• 1:03:27
  he's too shy for me. I'm like, yeah, I forget it, you
• 1:03:29
  know, Like I just, I just don't ever break up with somebody via
• 1:03:32
  text message or e-mail. And I I sent him a message via
• 1:03:36
  e-mail saying, you know, look, you're a wonderful guy, but I'm
• 1:03:39
  sorry. I don't think there's chemistry.
• 1:03:41
  Right. But then but then a few months
• 1:03:43
  later in June or July, the Lord really started working on my
• 1:03:46
  heart and I started thinking of how wonderful he was and is and
• 1:03:51
  and how he has these awesome. So with introverted people, they
• 1:03:57
  they do have a self-discipline and he's very caring and sharing
• 1:04:03
  and just really has this really calm and stable spirit about
• 1:04:09
  him. And that's something that I need
• 1:04:11
  and that's something that I needed then and still need now
• 1:04:14
  And as you can see. And so anyway, so I called him
• 1:04:18
  up in July of O One. I think it was it was a little
• 1:04:22
  after the 4th of July in 2001 and I I called him up and I'm
• 1:04:28
  like, hey, do you want to go out again.
• 1:04:29
  And and then we we started redating I guess.
• 1:04:32
  So we've been together ever since nonstop since July of 01
• 1:04:36
  and and again it hasn't it's it hasn't been a smooth ride
• 1:04:40
  sometimes but there's there's been times where it was like
• 1:04:42
  really smooth sailing and then there's been other times where
• 1:04:45
  it was like really rough waters. But he's a wonderful Christian
• 1:04:49
  husband and I'm so glad we met and we celebrated our twenty
• 1:04:52
  year anniversary in June 28th and and that's totally by the
• 1:04:57
  hand of the Lord. And of course we you know we
• 1:05:00
  loved each other. We do still love each other and
• 1:05:03
  it it's amazing how like God can bring you somebody but then he
• 1:05:07
  also wants you to love that person.
• 1:05:10
  Like he wouldn't bring you somebody that you weren't
• 1:05:12
  attracted to you. He wouldn't bring you somebody
• 1:05:14
  who you wouldn't love. So it was like it was it's both
• 1:05:17
  I think so I think that right person is, is God's will.
• 1:05:21
  Plus you also have to fall in love with that person too.
• 1:05:23
  And of course continue loving that person through the the help
• 1:05:26
  of of the Holy Spirit. You know, to give us that agape
• 1:05:29
  love for that person you know, not just the passion you know,
• 1:05:32
  let. Me ask you a question here, So
• 1:05:34
  like during that whole period of time, I know you talked about
• 1:05:37
  like you know from like 20 to like 27 it kind of being like
• 1:05:40
  bumpy and what? Did you have supernatural
• 1:05:44
  experiences during that time, like one or two that really
• 1:05:48
  sticks out to you? And after you came to the Lord,
• 1:05:52
  like did it feel like there was restriction almost as to like
• 1:05:57
  the supernatural stuff that was going on was trying to keep you
• 1:05:59
  from growing and finding a deeper relationship with him?
• 1:06:03
  Just elaborate on that a little bit.
• 1:06:05
  I'm curious to hear. Sure.
• 1:06:07
  I'm sorry I didn't talk about my supernatural experiences.
• 1:06:13
  So when I had actually rewind a little bit to my first
• 1:06:16
  supernatural experience. So when I was when like I was a
• 1:06:21
  month, a month or two after I had started going to church and
• 1:06:27
  I had gotten the sleep paralysis.
• 1:06:28
  So some people might know what sleep paralysis is, where if
• 1:06:31
  you're head to toe just totally paralyzed and you're asleep, but
• 1:06:35
  you wake up to this paralyzed condition and you can sense an
• 1:06:38
  evil presence doing this to you. So that happened to me and I and
• 1:06:43
  I the next the following Wednesday I went to youth group
• 1:06:47
  and I had told my my other Christian youth group friends
• 1:06:52
  and like, hey, could you pray for me?
• 1:06:54
  And they weren't Pentecostal or anything.
• 1:06:56
  They were just totally not a nominational and they all put a
• 1:06:59
  hand on my shoulder or my leg or something and they prayed and
• 1:07:02
  they rebuked it in Jesus name and it left.
• 1:07:05
  I did not get any paralysis until I was 20.
• 1:07:10
  So when I was 20, I started really, really growing in the
• 1:07:14
  Lord, like I was telling everybody about Jesus.
• 1:07:17
  And I unfortunately started getting the paralysis again and
• 1:07:25
  I felt like it was a reprisal for growing, like it wanted to
• 1:07:28
  stop me from really growing continuing to grow in the Lord.
• 1:07:33
  And unfortunately I I was married once before from age 20
• 1:07:37
  to 24 and and and it resulted in a divorce because my exhusband
• 1:07:41
  was verbally and mentally abusive and sometimes physically
• 1:07:44
  abusive. But during that that that time
• 1:07:49
  frame of 2024, lots of weird slash good and bad supernatural
• 1:07:55
  experiences because whatever spirits that were in my
• 1:07:58
  exhusband would come to try to attack me with sleep paralysis.
• 1:08:02
  Sometimes I get sleep paralysis four to six times a week, and I
• 1:08:05
  believe it was because the spirits inside him were, or
• 1:08:08
  around him were attacking me. I know that sounds strange, but
• 1:08:12
  but I believe that's what happened.
• 1:08:14
  And sometimes my exhusband would say crazy and weird and strange
• 1:08:18
  things to me. You know what?
• 1:08:20
  There was another one time when I I'd left them the first time
• 1:08:24
  he said that he was the devil himself.
• 1:08:26
  And he took his fists and he shattered his fists on this
• 1:08:30
  Victorian glass lamp and the glass lamp shattered into
• 1:08:33
  pieces. And it was only by the Lord that
• 1:08:34
  protected me. It could it could have lodged
• 1:08:36
  into my head or my eyes or whatever.
• 1:08:38
  So praise God that God protected me.
• 1:08:40
  But there was there was a good, interesting, supernatural
• 1:08:45
  experience. But I I had, oh by the way, I
• 1:08:48
  did have an out of body experience.
• 1:08:51
  So when a little bit. So when I was 20.
• 1:08:55
  So when I started growing stronger, the Lord, I I felt
• 1:09:00
  something come up to me and like kind of like jolt me awake.
• 1:09:06
  And I I had one of those lamps that were that if you touched
• 1:09:10
  the lamp, any part of the any part of the metallic lamp, it
• 1:09:15
  would turn on. And I remember thinking, okay,
• 1:09:18
  why isn't this lamp turning on? And like there's something we
• 1:09:21
  call this lamp, you know? And so then I'm like okay, I'm
• 1:09:25
  freaked out. I'm going to, I'm going to go to
• 1:09:27
  my dad's bedroom because he had two 2 twin beds.
• 1:09:32
  And so I just proceeded to walk towards my dad's bedroom.
• 1:09:37
  But instead I wasn't walking. My head was float.
• 1:09:41
  I was floating down the hallway. My head was hitting the ceiling.
• 1:09:45
  Not not physical, but I mean my head.
• 1:09:47
  I was floating down the hallway and my head, like was near the
• 1:09:50
  ceiling. And all of a sudden, like in an
• 1:09:53
  instant, I was back in my body and I go and I and I I touched
• 1:09:57
  the lamp and it turned on. So it was God.
• 1:10:01
  For some reason, the Lord allowed this demonic spirit to
• 1:10:04
  dislodge me from my body and to show me that there's a spiritual
• 1:10:09
  route. That that I have a spiritual
• 1:10:11
  body, evidently. But that was the last time that
• 1:10:14
  that when I had. That was the last time that I
• 1:10:18
  had the sleep paralysis episode where a spirit actually allowed
• 1:10:23
  me to like, leave my body. It was almost as if, I don't
• 1:10:27
  know. It was almost as if, like, you
• 1:10:30
  know, maybe that spirit was like reprimanded for allowing me to
• 1:10:33
  leave my body or something like that.
• 1:10:34
  I don't know. It was weird, but but then, like
• 1:10:37
  I've had sleep paralysis since then.
• 1:10:39
  But but I But I'd love to focus on the good.
• 1:10:43
  Too good, very wonderful, good supernatural experiences real
• 1:10:46
  quick. No, I was at a healing crusade,
• 1:10:51
  and I don't want to say this evangelist's name because I
• 1:10:54
  believe I might get Flack for it.
• 1:10:56
  But I was at, I was at. I'll tell you later, I was at
• 1:10:59
  this, this, this healing, prophetic evangelist crusade in
• 1:11:05
  95 and I went with my exhusband and the pastor and his wife and
• 1:11:11
  a few other people and this particular evangelist, I I don't
• 1:11:17
  know if he's totally right with God to be honest with you, but
• 1:11:20
  sometimes God can use someone who whose theology is a little
• 1:11:25
  off kilter or maybe their life isn't totally right, you know,
• 1:11:30
  but God sometimes can still use that person.
• 1:11:33
  So I was, I was at this crusade and and like thousands of people
• 1:11:37
  were in this arena in California or the California.
• 1:11:39
  And then he said, OK, everybody hold hands, you know, with with
• 1:11:44
  the person to your left and to your right.
• 1:11:46
  And then that he, it looked like he was throwing a Holy Spirit
• 1:11:48
  baseball. And he, he threw the Holy
• 1:11:52
  Spirit. I I know that sounds bizarre,
• 1:11:54
  but it. But it looked like he was
• 1:11:56
  throwing something at the audience, right.
• 1:11:57
  And then one by one, I see rows and rows and rows of people just
• 1:12:02
  fall back into their chairs. Boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 1:12:06
  And I'm like, that's fake. Finally it came to my row.
• 1:12:10
  I literally felt something push my sternum back and I I couldn't
• 1:12:15
  stand up and I I I fell back in my chair.
• 1:12:19
  So the big question is since this person's is a little off
• 1:12:23
  theologically, was that a demon or was that the Holy Spirit?
• 1:12:28
  I don't know. To this day I do believe it was
• 1:12:29
  the Holy Spirit cuz I did feel peace.
• 1:12:31
  But then of course you know we know that you know the the the
• 1:12:34
  demons could come as a as a the, you know, Angel of light.
• 1:12:37
  But I I do believe that it was the Holy Spirit.
• 1:12:41
  But then there's that 10% of my, you know, questioning like, what
• 1:12:45
  exactly was that? You know, So that was a good
• 1:12:47
  supernatural experience. And then Fast forward to 2015
• 1:12:52
  when I started podcasting. So Kay Carswell and I, she
• 1:12:56
  passed away and she went to be with the Lord.
• 1:12:58
  But so when Kay Carswell and I podcasted together doing
• 1:13:01
  deception detection radio, we we had talked about holy angels as
• 1:13:07
  well as evil angels. We talked about falling as well
• 1:13:10
  as holy angels. And so it was interesting that
• 1:13:15
  that like like a couple nights after that I I awoke to the
• 1:13:19
  sound of the most beautiful angelic song.
• 1:13:24
  It was not the IT was not the radio.
• 1:13:27
  It was a beautiful female angelic song.
• 1:13:31
  It was not the radio. It was not the TV.
• 1:13:33
  I just knew it was a holy Angel, just like your daughter knew
• 1:13:37
  what she saw was an Angel. And that was a very positive.
• 1:13:41
  Those were two very positive experiences.
• 1:13:43
  Well, the first one was like, not sure, you know, And the
• 1:13:45
  second one, totally, 100% knew that was that it was a holy
• 1:13:50
  Angel singing. And I know that in the Bible
• 1:13:54
  many times that holy angels manifest themselves as male, but
• 1:13:59
  I have to tell you that this was a female holy Angel and she was
• 1:14:02
  singing so and I was right with the Lord.
• 1:14:07
  So I can't, I can't imagine that it was something demonic cuz I
• 1:14:11
  really did feel the Lord. So those were the two very good
• 1:14:15
  supernatural experiences. But the rest are like, it's like
• 1:14:17
  why don't I have to be attacked every time?
• 1:14:20
  Like for doing this podcast, the enemy is probably going to
• 1:14:23
  attack me, you know, as a reprisal against, you know,
• 1:14:27
  getting the word of God out of there.
• 1:14:29
  Because our testimonials is what really defeats the enemy.
• 1:14:32
  As we know that the word of our testimonial and the blood of the
• 1:14:35
  lamb, the word of our testimonial, that that defeats
• 1:14:37
  the enemy and that really spreads.
• 1:14:39
  And I think a lot of like what you're saying is so important
• 1:14:42
  because I deal with that as well where it's like the.
• 1:14:45
  The battles, like some of the stuff that goes on to be able to
• 1:14:49
  do this show and to pray with people and and there's a lot of
• 1:14:51
  ministry that goes on where the left hand doesn't know what the
• 1:14:54
  right hand is doing. In my case, like I don't social
• 1:14:57
  media lies like put everything up on social media.
• 1:15:00
  I'm not on there every two or three hours doing updates.
• 1:15:02
  Like I'm just like we're called to do certain things and then
• 1:15:07
  there's a time and a place for the rest of it.
• 1:15:09
  But what the battles that actually take place?
• 1:15:14
  It is very interesting. It's very interesting.
• 1:15:16
  But the word is going to tell us the remedy, exactly what to do.
• 1:15:21
  Like we put on armor. And I don't mean like I'm going
• 1:15:24
  to imaginarily, spiritually put on.
• 1:15:26
  Like, I think when the helmet of salvation is being talked about
• 1:15:30
  in Ephesians, like repentance is a change of mind.
• 1:15:36
  Like, like in a change of direction.
• 1:15:37
  Like we, we wash and change our mind.
• 1:15:39
  So like if we're in that place of a change mind, like we are
• 1:15:43
  countering whatever battlefield of the mind, whatever the arrow
• 1:15:47
  with the enemy is coming against us, we're saying like, no, I am
• 1:15:51
  saved by the blood of Christ. Like he is working all of this
• 1:15:55
  together until the day of his his coming or I leave this
• 1:15:59
  earth. However, whatever, however this
• 1:16:01
  ends, he's going to work this out.
• 1:16:02
  And I think a lot of the times it's like people think it's like
• 1:16:05
  too lofty or too goofy, but like the reality is.
• 1:16:08
  We're all battling for a mental space of something or another.
• 1:16:11
  We're battling for attention. We're battling for the raise at
• 1:16:14
  work. We're battling for whatever it
• 1:16:15
  is, right? Oh, we want vacation.
• 1:16:17
  We need to make sure all this stuff is lined up.
• 1:16:20
  So it's like, well, what about battling for?
• 1:16:23
  Just like proverb says, so a man thinketh he is.
• 1:16:25
  If you think you're important, if you think that you're loved
• 1:16:27
  and you have value, well, most likely you're going to glow like
• 1:16:30
  you do. But but then beyond that, what
• 1:16:33
  is God actually? Does he delight in that?
• 1:16:36
  Well, he delights in faith. And the substance that was so
• 1:16:38
  far. So I just think what you're
• 1:16:39
  saying is important because a lot of the times we're like,
• 1:16:42
  well, I'm going to call this person and ask them to pray for
• 1:16:44
  me because I'm getting I'm under attack right now.
• 1:16:46
  I did this podcast episode or I'm praying for these people or
• 1:16:49
  this stuff is going on. God is calling me deeper into
• 1:16:52
  the these places where more responsibility, you know, just
• 1:16:55
  more whatever you want to call it, right?
• 1:16:58
  But The thing is, it's like God tells us we work out our
• 1:17:02
  salvation with fear and trembling.
• 1:17:03
  So that's the choice, like we have to say.
• 1:17:06
  I am strong and the Lord. I am a child of the king, right?
• 1:17:10
  I'm a friend of the king. Like if you don't like me or
• 1:17:12
  what I'm about or what I'm saying, you don't like him
• 1:17:15
  because there's nothing actually of me that's worth any value.
• 1:17:19
  Like okay testimony. That's cool, but but it's by the
• 1:17:21
  blood of the lamb. And it's it's by the blood of
• 1:17:24
  the lamb that I have a testimony because I wouldn't have one
• 1:17:27
  without him. And so the battle is so real and
• 1:17:32
  that's why I don't like. I hate trying to tell.
• 1:17:35
  My testimony of stories, because there's so much and I feel
• 1:17:38
  scatterbrained a lot of the time, like, I'm like, Oh my
• 1:17:40
  gosh, I got to try to line up or stick to just a portion of this.
• 1:17:45
  But I I also want to speak about what's edifying.
• 1:17:48
  So. So I love the fact that you
• 1:17:49
  just, you're transparent and you're you're willing to bring
• 1:17:52
  that up and actually say, you know what, Yeah, the battle is
• 1:17:55
  real. And then I think this is where
• 1:17:57
  the encouragement becomes more than just is more than a podcast
• 1:18:00
  right now is more than a podcast right now, because this is
• 1:18:04
  actually two people. Who are chasing after the Lord
• 1:18:07
  for what Our Calling is and what where he wants to lead us in the
• 1:18:10
  face of a battlefield like we are on a battlefield and the
• 1:18:14
  encouragement is real and his word is true.
• 1:18:17
  So I want to ask you, I think we'll we'll kind of move into to
• 1:18:20
  this it what what do you think the next step is like?
• 1:18:28
  Like for your ministry with the podcast.
• 1:18:29
  Like I know everything that you've been doing right and and
• 1:18:32
  you're reaching people and stuff like that.
• 1:18:34
  But has God like, worked with you in in in a space where he's
• 1:18:38
  starting to reveal to you I'm calling you to this or has he
• 1:18:40
  exposed any of what you would say, maybe what your gifts or or
• 1:18:44
  callings are? Is there anything's a great
• 1:18:47
  question, Sure. As a matter of fact, I thought
• 1:18:51
  that I should transition into that because that's probably
• 1:18:54
  what a lot of people want to know.
• 1:18:55
  How did we get into podcasting? What inspired us?
• 1:18:59
  And definitely was the Lord. So it's interesting.
• 1:19:04
  I would say that my desire to do public speaking was birthed way
• 1:19:09
  back, probably I would say maybe 15 years ago or something.
• 1:19:16
  And my my favorite saying to my husband was that I have so much
• 1:19:20
  to say but nobody will listen. So now people are listening like
• 1:19:25
  you find folks thank you for listening by the way or watching
• 1:19:28
  or both. So it's interesting that that
• 1:19:32
  when I started listening to podcasts such as Doc Marquis who
• 1:19:37
  went on to be with the Lord, he was an ex Illuminati ex warlock
• 1:19:42
  and who was became Christian. So I started listening to him.
• 1:19:45
  I started to listen to LA Marzily and a bunch of different
• 1:19:51
  you know red pilled you know Christian Supernatural type of
• 1:19:54
  podcasters. And I for some reason that a lot
• 1:19:57
  of them escape my my thinking right now actually sorry Canary
• 1:20:01
  car radio. So I I started listening to a
• 1:20:05
  lot of Christian paranormal, Christian Supernatural or red
• 1:20:10
  pill type of shows. The first one being Paratruth
• 1:20:13
  radio and there so around 2014 I.
• 1:20:22
  I'm sorry, let me rewind. Back in 2013 I was going.
• 1:20:25
  I was taking some classes for a degree Bachelor psychology
• 1:20:31
  degree for Liberty University. I just have an associate's.
• 1:20:34
  But I was trying to edge towards a bachelor's degree.
• 1:20:36
  But anyway, I had taken a Christian and cinematic arts
• 1:20:40
  class and one of my classmates, Eric from Paratruth Radio.
• 1:20:45
  He and I became friends in 2013 and became friends on Facebook.
• 1:20:49
  And then 2014, I saw that he and his friend, he and his cousin
• 1:20:52
  Justin had started, restarted, restarted a new podcast called
• 1:20:57
  Paratooth Radio. And they were veterans in
• 1:20:59
  podcasting before, like five years before or 10 years before
• 1:21:02
  even that. And and they're younger guys,
• 1:21:05
  so, so they're like super veterans.
• 1:21:07
  So they probably started in the early 20s or something like that
• 1:21:10
  doing podcasting, paranormal podcasting.
• 1:21:13
  And so I thought to myself, self, you should do a podcast
• 1:21:18
  one of these days. But I don't have the time.
• 1:21:20
  I work full time. I I don't have the time or the
• 1:21:23
  energy. I'm done at the end of the day.
• 1:21:25
  You know what? At the end of the day, you know,
• 1:21:28
  5530, you know, I've, I've checked out, you know, and I go
• 1:21:32
  exercise and have dinner with my husband and bam, I'm going to
• 1:21:35
  sleep or or at that time I was going to school.
• 1:21:37
  I have no time. But then in 2015, another friend
• 1:21:41
  named Channing from the Full Fledge Radio.
• 1:21:44
  He invited me on his podcast on blogtalkradio.com.
• 1:21:48
  And I didn't need any of this equipment at all.
• 1:21:50
  No microphone, nothing. He just said to call on the
• 1:21:54
  phone, right? So I just started calling on my
• 1:21:57
  cell phone and one by one I started building up shows on his
• 1:22:04
  show, building up episodes on his show, the full-fledged
• 1:22:06
  radio. And then after I had a few shows
• 1:22:11
  under my belt, I'm like, this is lovely to do it by myself.
• 1:22:15
  So I prayed for the right Co host S and Kay Carnival came
• 1:22:20
  along and so I got her into podcasting.
• 1:22:21
  So she and I podcasted together and then we went our separate
• 1:22:25
  ways and she took the torch and and lit the world on fire with
• 1:22:29
  her podcast. And she has she and Kate, sorry.
• 1:22:33
  She and Chad Riley together for they did podcasting for 3 1/2
• 1:22:38
  years. I mean they did, they had, they
• 1:22:43
  had hundreds of episodes and I just knew that it was it was a
• 1:22:46
  God thing that I started her in podcast because that was
• 1:22:48
  something that she had always loved, which was paranormal
• 1:22:51
  radio starting when she was a little girl listening to Coast
• 1:22:54
  to Coast. But anyway, to answer your
• 1:22:56
  question, Fast forward to the present.
• 1:23:00
  I've been podcasting since 2015 and I had different names of
• 1:23:06
  Thai Girl for God Radio and Asian Grace Radio and in
• 1:23:12
  November of 21. So I was by myself in 2015 all
• 1:23:16
  the way to December 21. I I said Lauren, I I would
• 1:23:21
  really not. I'd really love to have a cohost
• 1:23:24
  again. And I I'd like a different, a
• 1:23:26
  different name. Please show me what I should
• 1:23:28
  name my new podcast name. Please give me a podcast name
• 1:23:31
  that's different and new and interesting.
• 1:23:33
  And so I was driving along, you know how And all of a sudden out
• 1:23:36
  of nowhere I felt the Lord say Strange o'clock.
• 1:23:40
  I'm like strange o'clock. That's really strange, right?
• 1:23:44
  And but I felt like that's what the Lord wanted me to call it is
• 1:23:48
  Strange o'clock podcast. And probably because you know to
• 1:23:52
  the world of us Christians are strange.
• 1:23:55
  And to the natural man, supernatural things are strange.
• 1:23:59
  So and of course they have stranger things, you know.
• 1:24:02
  And for some reason I felt like the Lord say name a stranger
• 1:24:05
  cloth podcast and to to contact Michael Basham did me by cohost
• 1:24:11
  and I felt like the Lord paired us up podcast wise because I'm
• 1:24:15
  more Asian on the outside and more American on the inside and
• 1:24:18
  he actually is more Asian on the inside and American on the
• 1:24:21
  outside because he spent 15 years in China as a missionary.
• 1:24:27
  And and so I felt like he he, you know, has that Asianness on
• 1:24:31
  the inside and I have it on the outside.
• 1:24:32
  So I felt like the Lord you know it has that had brought that
• 1:24:37
  combined you know experience together.
• 1:24:40
  You know that we could talk about stuff that's similar.
• 1:24:42
  We've had similar guests some of the same guests like Dan Duvall
• 1:24:46
  and some of there's a few others like maybe three or four of the
• 1:24:49
  same guests that we've had or that I've had before.
• 1:24:52
  And and so I think that there's that that need intersection of
• 1:24:56
  guests that we we both share rod and also with Michael and I we
• 1:25:01
  we both share several guests that I've had on my show and
• 1:25:05
  he's had. And so I guess the direction I
• 1:25:07
  felt like the Lord wants me to go in that I'm hesitant on is
• 1:25:11
  speaking what the Lord has shown me because I do a lot of kind of
• 1:25:15
  like at A at a rock concert. You know, when somebody like
• 1:25:17
  crowd surfs, you know, I'm like that person on the ground, you
• 1:25:20
  know, like holding up, you know, that other person crowd surfing.
• 1:25:23
  But I felt like God said saying, I want your voice whatever I'm
• 1:25:28
  speaking to you. And through you, I want your
• 1:25:31
  voice to be out there. And I'm like, oh, I'm sort of
• 1:25:34
  bashful and shy about it. You know what if somebody calls
• 1:25:37
  me a heretic or whatever. You know, because there's
• 1:25:39
  there's some people who who say, oh you know, you know God isn't
• 1:25:44
  doesn't give any new revelation these days.
• 1:25:47
  You know God isn't speaking through people these days.
• 1:25:49
  He's you know, if you want to hear from God you've got to just
• 1:25:51
  read the book the Bible aloud. And and yes, that is partially
• 1:25:55
  true. But I do believe that in the
• 1:25:57
  book of Acts when it says that these gifts are for your
• 1:25:59
  children and your children's children and those who are far
• 1:26:01
  off, we are those who are far off.
• 1:26:03
  The book of Acts never died. You know I'm I became a
• 1:26:08
  Pentecostal Christian when I was 20 and that's probably why the
• 1:26:10
  enemy was trying to suppress me and and I I do believe in
• 1:26:15
  healing and deliverance and tongues and what have you.
• 1:26:17
  I know some of you might disagree but that's okay.
• 1:26:20
  But it's not. Those things are not self
• 1:26:22
  effect. But I believe that it does
• 1:26:24
  bolster our faith and and we could be you really powerhouses
• 1:26:29
  for the Lord you know. But even if you if, even if you
• 1:26:31
  don't believe the same way the Lord you know still uses people
• 1:26:34
  that don't have those you know aren't operating in those things
• 1:26:38
  that I just mentioned. But I feel like the Lord wants
• 1:26:41
  me to to give words of knowledge and words of wisdom out to
• 1:26:45
  people. And I'm a little hesitant
• 1:26:47
  because I have some friends that are they're skilled in
• 1:26:51
  apologetics and they're skilled in exposing the false doctrine
• 1:26:57
  and everything. And I just, I guess I I
• 1:26:59
  shouldn't fear. But but I I get concerned that
• 1:27:01
  might be lumped into that if I if I say okay, I feel like
• 1:27:05
  somebody's listening right now that is struggling with you
• 1:27:11
  know, this and that sin or whatever.
• 1:27:14
  You know what I mean? You know, have ever seen those
• 1:27:15
  people on TV? I feel like God abuse us still,
• 1:27:18
  but I didn't hesitate because I have some friends that actually
• 1:27:21
  call those types of people heretics and I'm like, do I want
• 1:27:24
  to be labeled? Mislabeled.
• 1:27:27
  What you're saying is important because I think a lot of people
• 1:27:30
  were in the mind frame, but somebody said this to help me
• 1:27:34
  with that as well because I was in the similar boat where it's
• 1:27:37
  like. Well, I don't have all this
• 1:27:40
  figured out, and I'm hesitant on sharing even some of my own
• 1:27:43
  testimony because I haven't prayed about each snippet of it.
• 1:27:46
  I haven't brought it before the Lord and ask for clarity and
• 1:27:49
  everything. So I'm like, well, some of it is
• 1:27:52
  just for me, some of it is for edification purposes, right?
• 1:27:56
  But we have an audience of 1, so if we're in tune with God and
• 1:28:03
  he's, He's pricking our hearts or knocking on the door of our
• 1:28:07
  soul. Right.
• 1:28:09
  Hey, I want you to say this to them.
• 1:28:11
  God, I can't do that. They're not going to look right
• 1:28:14
  if if we're in that kind of dialogue just refocusing on we
• 1:28:18
  have an audience of 1. Like God is watching and we're
• 1:28:23
  we're a child to him. We we have value beyond beyond
• 1:28:28
  measures that we would use. Our templates don't don't come
• 1:28:31
  close to the value that God sees in us.
• 1:28:35
  I wish just like the Apostle Paul said that that we the
• 1:28:39
  Saints would know the length of depth of breath and the height
• 1:28:42
  and I believe that's multiple folded.
• 1:28:43
  I I believe that can be unpacked in in many ways and still be
• 1:28:46
  accurate. But what I would say to you,
• 1:28:49
  just as, you know, I see what you have put in like the The
• 1:28:53
  First Round Table episode, I was ever on that you were behind the
• 1:28:56
  scenes orchestrating that you were doing that.
• 1:28:58
  You had the heart to get people together.
• 1:29:01
  And God is using you in ways and it.
• 1:29:04
  And it's interesting because sometimes when we feel like
• 1:29:07
  we're just kind of sitting there and everybody's zooming around
• 1:29:11
  us or oh man, they just blew up this quick or that show just
• 1:29:14
  grew this fast or whatever. Well, God has a season for you
• 1:29:19
  and he has a calling for you and he has people for you to reach
• 1:29:22
  that they can't reach. And sometimes the wisdom from
• 1:29:26
  learning what maybe didn't work for those people who went too
• 1:29:29
  fast. Is going to be a part of the
• 1:29:31
  recipe that keeps you in it for the longer for like the the
• 1:29:35
  bigger stage or the OR the better stage, Like really
• 1:29:38
  helping sending up God's glory by being available, by being
• 1:29:43
  obedient and available to what he wants to do.
• 1:29:46
  And I see that with you, Peach. Like I see you have this heart
• 1:29:49
  to just recognize other people and to really just take.
• 1:29:52
  You know this place where it's like you're serving like in a
• 1:29:56
  place of just joy in your heart promoting other people and just
• 1:29:59
  not judging other people and really not wanting to be like
• 1:30:02
  lumped in with any one click in particular.
• 1:30:04
  I see this with you, I see your post, I listen to your podcast.
• 1:30:07
  We, you know, we've been in and out of communication since the
• 1:30:10
  round table that was that was done almost nine months ago I'd
• 1:30:13
  say at this point. But just remember you have an
• 1:30:17
  audience of 1 first and if he's pleased with it.
• 1:30:21
  He's the one that opens the floodgate for you to reap,
• 1:30:23
  whether it's 30 or 50 or 100, whatever.
• 1:30:27
  Whatever his plan is for you to reap that nothing nothing can be
• 1:30:30
  taken away from you. So so helpful and encouraging.
• 1:30:36
  Absolutely. And I I definitely resound that
• 1:30:38
  same back to you for sure. And and we both have an audience
• 1:30:44
  of 1 for sure and and if we please him, that's the most
• 1:30:49
  important thing. That's the all-encompassing
• 1:30:51
  important thing. And as a byproduct if somebody
• 1:30:55
  gets saved or edified or encouraged or what have you then
• 1:30:59
  then that's definitely like a runoff from the blessing that
• 1:31:03
  that you know we want to give to God.
• 1:31:06
  God gives to us. It's all worth it for sure.
• 1:31:09
  Amen for sure. Absolutely.
• 1:31:10
  So let me ask you this real quick.
• 1:31:12
  What? What's one of the most like?
• 1:31:14
  What What's your favorite episode that you've created?
• 1:31:17
  Like, like, what's that one interview where it's like you
• 1:31:19
  actually go back on a rainy day and listen to it and you're
• 1:31:22
  like, oh, this is the one, You know, like, like for all the
• 1:31:26
  years of podcasting or what would that one go to?
• 1:31:31
  I have to say, I love all of our guests that were on our show,
• 1:31:37
  but the one that popped into my head the most in which was open
• 1:31:43
  to the public. It was controversial in a good
• 1:31:47
  way. It was just in the fall of the
• 1:31:50
  former 4th Watch radio. Do you know who does the Fall
• 1:31:53
  is? I've heard of them.
• 1:31:55
  I actually ordered some DVD sets, I'd say in like 2019 or
• 1:31:58
  2020, where I believe he was involved in the production.
• 1:32:01
  And I've heard the name thrown around, but I can't put a face
• 1:32:04
  to it. Yeah, gotcha.
• 1:32:06
  So he so lately he's been doing documentaries with his brother
• 1:32:10
  Westfall and he has some amazing videos on Vimeo, like one called
• 1:32:16
  The Hollow Earth, another one that exposes America's dark I'll
• 1:32:22
  be at Freemasons Satanic roots and there's there's two other
• 1:32:27
  ones I forget. So I think there's a total of
• 1:32:29
  four ordered. Some DVD's I'm trying to
• 1:32:31
  remember. It's like on the tip of my
• 1:32:32
  tongue what it was called me too.
• 1:32:35
  So he. Interviewed Tom Horne.
• 1:32:37
  And like Derek Gilbert, a couple of different people in like
• 1:32:39
  these different settings. And he was talking about like
• 1:32:42
  some secret societies or something like that.
• 1:32:45
  Yeah, I know, I know. Who you're talking about?
• 1:32:46
  Yeah, you know I'm talking about, right?
• 1:32:48
  Yeah, so. But when he was doing more of
• 1:32:50
  the podcasting and not so much of the documentaries.
• 1:32:54
  So he and Kay Carswell, my former Co Hostess who's went on
• 1:32:57
  to be with Lord and I did a show on Giants and that was on blog
• 1:33:03
  talk radio and we did not know what we were getting involved,
• 1:33:06
  what we were getting ourselves into.
• 1:33:08
  So when Channing had opened the floodgates, there was a man and
• 1:33:12
  and again, I was just a facilitator.
• 1:33:14
  So I wasn't a debater or anything like that.
• 1:33:16
  I didn't. I didn't do the biblical defense
• 1:33:18
  of Giants and Nefa Lim, but Justin did.
• 1:33:21
  So this this dude, this older dude calls him and he says he
• 1:33:26
  says, well you know, angels don't have genitals, right?
• 1:33:35
  And he said, Sir, he said, well angels don't have genitals or
• 1:33:42
  and and then he Then Justin asked him what will he ever have
• 1:33:45
  you ever seen an Angel with his pants down.
• 1:33:50
  And so but he did a really good biblical defense that the in
• 1:33:55
  Genesis 6 that the the sons of God who are the fallen angels
• 1:34:02
  had saw that the Dodgers went little, beautiful and and had
• 1:34:07
  sex with them. Their their their children were
• 1:34:09
  the nephalem were the giants. Because that flies in the face
• 1:34:13
  of 90% of what's taught in seminary that that the sons of
• 1:34:18
  God were the righteous men of Seth and the daughters of men
• 1:34:24
  were the daughters of Cain. And that doesn't make any sense
• 1:34:28
  because when you get human man versus human woman or human man
• 1:34:32
  plus human woman, their offspring shouldn't be the
• 1:34:35
  anomalous giants men ever known. Nephilim or what have you.
• 1:34:39
  And but it wasn't, it wasn't debate.
• 1:34:42
  I'll have to send you the link sometime.
• 1:34:44
  I mean, I might put the link in the show notes or something so
• 1:34:46
  people can listen. Yeah, send it to me so I can
• 1:34:49
  listen to it. And I definitely want to add
• 1:34:51
  that to the show notes. I think that's awesome.
• 1:34:54
  That's the one that pops into my head the most.
• 1:34:55
  Just not because they are more important than the other guests
• 1:35:00
  we've had. It's just that that was at the
• 1:35:02
  beginning of when I first started podcasting and not the
• 1:35:05
  first one. That was like maybe the 7th,
• 1:35:07
  1:00. I've done and and and also it
• 1:35:10
  was like what the beginning of my podcasting and it was open to
• 1:35:15
  the public. I have never fielded questions
• 1:35:18
  from the public before. It was just that episode and and
• 1:35:22
  so folks, I, I if any, if there's any podcasters out
• 1:35:26
  there, I do not recommend that you allow callers to call in
• 1:35:30
  unless they're fielded, unless they're vetted by like an
• 1:35:34
  assistant or something. But it wasn't.
• 1:35:35
  It was amusing. It was really amusing though,
• 1:35:38
  but more than anything it really it the the, the controversy or
• 1:35:42
  the conflict actually showed Justin Fall.
• 1:35:45
  He really just really hit a home run with the apologetics, you
• 1:35:50
  know, regarding the the biblical origins of of the giants.
• 1:35:55
  And so I think that's why it stuck out to my mind the most.
• 1:36:00
  How about you? What's the one that sticks out
• 1:36:03
  in your in your head the most? Or the top two or so?
• 1:36:06
  Yeah, I mean. So I was asked like a similar
• 1:36:10
  question and normally what I'll do in my mind is I'll go back to
• 1:36:14
  like the the very beginning of like podcasting.
• 1:36:17
  Like there was these like inclemental moments where it's
• 1:36:20
  like I really understood something significant was
• 1:36:22
  happening. So like I shared about when my
• 1:36:24
  sister came on and like shared this hat man experience that she
• 1:36:27
  had. And I think what was so cool
• 1:36:30
  about that is like. Here, like, we grew up in this
• 1:36:33
  old, famous Philadelphia farmhouse.
• 1:36:35
  There's a bunch of history in the house that I grew up in.
• 1:36:38
  And my sister, when she was younger, had this hat man
• 1:36:42
  experience. She sees this hat man at the top
• 1:36:44
  of, like, I think at the third, yeah, the third story of the
• 1:36:47
  house and that that was talked about like, just with, like,
• 1:36:52
  friends and family, like like minutely, right.
• 1:36:55
  And then over the years, it was kind of like, kind of forgotten
• 1:36:57
  about, like every once in a blue moon, somebody would bring it up
• 1:37:00
  or something like that. But.
• 1:37:01
  That that was a moment where I interview her in season one.
• 1:37:06
  She shares different like dreams and stuff that she's had shares
• 1:37:09
  the hat man experience. It felt good.
• 1:37:11
  She got it off her chest. I felt good capturing it.
• 1:37:14
  And like, we aired it all out. So that was like a moment where
• 1:37:17
  I'm like and then I looked and I'm like, I'm not a numbers guy.
• 1:37:20
  I don't look at numbers. I don't work with people.
• 1:37:22
  Based upon how many numbers or popularity.
• 1:37:24
  I think that that's nonsense. I think that that's people just
• 1:37:26
  looking for. For reputation over who our
• 1:37:29
  audience of 1 is concerned. But that episode got some
• 1:37:33
  downloads, and I'm like, well, then people will listen.
• 1:37:37
  Like people are actually interested, you know, because it
• 1:37:39
  was kind of weird to be like, oh, I'm a Christian and I've
• 1:37:41
  seen a ghost like here or there, like a few years ago.
• 1:37:45
  Now it's just like, you know, everybody and anybody is talking
• 1:37:50
  about it now, just people randomly have all different
• 1:37:52
  positions and spectrums of like importance all the way down to.
• 1:37:57
  The basic person next door. I'll have a story to tell now,
• 1:38:01
  but I but I think that was like a really big moment.
• 1:38:04
  And there's a couple others. I mean, like, knock my socks off
• 1:38:07
  guests. I'd say Doctor Laura obviously,
• 1:38:10
  but because there's back story with her too.
• 1:38:12
  So it's like not just an e-mail And then oh, I'm hearing her
• 1:38:17
  voice for the first time. I go through like this really
• 1:38:20
  dark place where, you know, we lose the house, our first house
• 1:38:24
  we're buying. Because of like some some coding
• 1:38:27
  stuff and well and whatever, right?
• 1:38:30
  It doesn't go through. And then my wife's in a car
• 1:38:32
  accident and I lose half my income all within like a two
• 1:38:34
  week span. This is 21.
• 1:38:38
  So like Doctor Laura who was like scheduled to come on, we're
• 1:38:41
  emailing. We had like I think maybe one or
• 1:38:43
  two phone calls. At that point I cancel
• 1:38:45
  everything and she actually is like, I felt like in the spirit,
• 1:38:49
  something's going wrong here. So she actually takes time.
• 1:38:52
  To pray and encourage me. And there's like, no microphone
• 1:38:55
  on, right? But behind the scenes, it's like
• 1:38:58
  she's sharing with me and experiences she had years ago.
• 1:39:02
  And you know, she, she almost fell apart and lost everything.
• 1:39:06
  And like how she's like, you just focus on God, just the
• 1:39:09
  encouragement focusing on God. And just so like she comes on
• 1:39:13
  the show, like, I think the podcast has ended.
• 1:39:15
  I kind of played around with the waters a little bit.
• 1:39:17
  Should I start it? But God, I didn't get the green
• 1:39:19
  light everyone's telling me. So I'm like, Nope, I'm not
• 1:39:21
  really feeling it. And then all the sudden, like
• 1:39:24
  something, you know, I get the green light pretty much from
• 1:39:26
  God, He's like, OK, start the show back up because there was
• 1:39:29
  too much going on in my private life.
• 1:39:32
  The podcast was not more important than the condition of
• 1:39:34
  my household. It was not more important than
• 1:39:36
  the condition of my household. Like, that's my ministry first.
• 1:39:40
  So I put the podcast on the side and then things got a little bit
• 1:39:42
  better. And then God was like, OK, go
• 1:39:44
  with it. So when Doctor Laura came on, it
• 1:39:47
  was just like months. Like I'm, you know, months and
• 1:39:49
  months of all this going on and I seen.
• 1:39:52
  The the the diligency of just trusting God's voice and walking
• 1:39:56
  through dark and hard times that he'll he'll actually bring you
• 1:40:00
  to where you thought you were just about to be, but he might
• 1:40:02
  test you along the way. So I think that that was like,
• 1:40:05
  knocked my socks off personally. But there's every episode of
• 1:40:09
  being something to me, like, I don't air just anything on the
• 1:40:12
  Millennium Mustard Seed. I've literally had people say,
• 1:40:17
  why did you have this person on? Why did you cover this kind of
• 1:40:19
  content? And I'm going.
• 1:40:20
  Listen. Yes, of course.
• 1:40:22
  But. But my thing is, is I want to
• 1:40:24
  capture what I see people are doing right?
• 1:40:26
  I don't want to, like, make episodes on like like like God
• 1:40:30
  is going to correct people. The ministries that are not
• 1:40:32
  supposed to be here, the podcasts that are not supposed
• 1:40:34
  to be here will not be long until they are off the grid and
• 1:40:38
  forgotten. And I don't say that of
• 1:40:39
  boldness. I say that because God is not
• 1:40:41
  pleased with certain things and certain things he is pleased
• 1:40:44
  with. And the things that move
• 1:40:45
  forward, he's going to make that known as time goes on.
• 1:40:48
  And the things that he's not pleased with, he's going to
• 1:40:50
  disassemble it. But the thing that that I was
• 1:40:53
  starting to understand was I didn't want.
• 1:40:57
  It's not my job to be disciplined in people.
• 1:40:59
  If if somebody's in Christ and they're doing something real
• 1:41:02
  crazy, it is. I believe it's the body's job to
• 1:41:04
  be like, yo, listen, this is where you at, like what's really
• 1:41:07
  going on here. But just because somebody's a
• 1:41:09
  little bit theologically different in a sense or maybe
• 1:41:11
  they take the satellite view, I'm not going to.
• 1:41:14
  It's not my job to write a book about everything they're doing
• 1:41:16
  wrong. If I capture something, they are
• 1:41:18
  doing right. And I really feel and I pray
• 1:41:20
  about it and I'm watching and I'm, I'm watching in the
• 1:41:23
  background and I'm going, okay, God, This is a good thing that
• 1:41:27
  they're standing for. I want to capture that because I
• 1:41:30
  believe we all have a little something wrong and we all have
• 1:41:32
  a little something right. I don't discriminate.
• 1:41:34
  I don't care if you're a theologian.
• 1:41:35
  I don't care if you're the guy next door.
• 1:41:37
  We all have a little something wrong and we all have a little
• 1:41:40
  something right. And God gave me that in
• 1:41:42
  confidence. I say that I don't care who
• 1:41:44
  would be on the receiving end of that.
• 1:41:46
  In the humility and the confidence and the meekness,
• 1:41:50
  we're all moving towards a deeper revelation of who Christ
• 1:41:54
  is and what he's about to do. So with that kind of stuff, I
• 1:41:58
  just air well on the show what I feel like I'm capturing as good
• 1:42:01
  and beautiful. And like, I like just any
• 1:42:04
  conversation. If it gets the green light from
• 1:42:08
  God, I air it. You know what I mean on that?
• 1:42:11
  It's that kind of thing where it's like, OK, this is going to
• 1:42:14
  help somebody, but I think there's there's over
• 1:42:17
  entertainment in a lot of ways too.
• 1:42:18
  I think a lot of people are just way more concerned with
• 1:42:22
  entertainment or popularity. Am I covering a topic that is
• 1:42:25
  popular? I can see other people covering
• 1:42:27
  it or is it really like there's loose ends here.
• 1:42:30
  This is helpful for my journey and I know it's going to affect
• 1:42:32
  other people. So I think that's that's
• 1:42:35
  important that that's really important as a podcaster,
• 1:42:37
  because I've said already and I'll say it again, I don't know
• 1:42:40
  if I'll be podcasting in six months from now or in two years
• 1:42:43
  from now. I have learned it is better to
• 1:42:46
  just say okay, God, continue to prepare me for what's next
• 1:42:50
  because I do not want the whooping if I try to run or say
• 1:42:53
  no like that hurts, there's enough going on, I don't want to
• 1:42:57
  be with you. So hopefully that encourages
• 1:42:59
  somebody out there as well as is being malleable to where God's
• 1:43:03
  calling us and what he's choosing to do.
• 1:43:05
  But then also recognizing the mouthpiece has a function in the
• 1:43:10
  body and we can't, you know, we can't try to negate certain
• 1:43:15
  functions of the body and no wonder why the body Christ isn't
• 1:43:18
  firing on all cylinders. So when we do have something to
• 1:43:21
  share, when it is edifying, when it is for our learning, our
• 1:43:24
  rebuke or just I hate to say entertainment because of the
• 1:43:28
  entertainment industry, but there there should be healthy
• 1:43:31
  entertainment for Christians. Like we need alternative things
• 1:43:34
  to go to and listen to, whether it just be some good clean humor
• 1:43:38
  or just conversations. Like somebody wants to wash the
• 1:43:40
  dishes, Somebody's washing the dishes right now and they just
• 1:43:43
  want to listen to me and you talk and share our stories.
• 1:43:45
  Like, that's cool. That's better than what the
• 1:43:46
  world wants to recycle. So I believe there's a time and
• 1:43:49
  space for all this and I and I really like and enjoy what you
• 1:43:52
  do. And I recognized, you know,
• 1:43:56
  you're doing stuff behind the scenes and just really promoting
• 1:43:58
  people and being positive and and, you know, just not being
• 1:44:02
  unashamed of the gospel. So really it's an honor to have
• 1:44:06
  been on this episode with you and just to get to know you
• 1:44:09
  better and to collaborate and and just share our stories.
• 1:44:14
  So super cool. That's awesome.
• 1:44:16
  I'm very honored and blessed with being in this collaboration
• 1:44:21
  podcast with you, and it's amazing how the Lord brings
• 1:44:25
  people together. I think that we had met through,
• 1:44:28
  I believe, Blurry Creatures. Is that correct?
• 1:44:31
  No, actually you started that message group or something like
• 1:44:37
  that for after the William Ramsey roundtable episode.
• 1:44:41
  So really somebody, I think it was Chris.
• 1:44:44
  He's he. Cracked me in on that.
• 1:44:46
  Yeah, he added me and I'm like, this is going on.
• 1:44:48
  What world did I just enter into?
• 1:44:49
  There's like all these other pockets.
• 1:44:51
  There's some stuff going on. But there was this like nine
• 1:44:54
  person panel where I was invited to join with William Ramsey.
• 1:44:58
  William is and I know who Chuck from fire theft is.
• 1:45:01
  So I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll join.
• 1:45:03
  At least know two of these people and then kind of got
• 1:45:06
  introduced to you from that point in time is the first time
• 1:45:08
  I really seen your face heard your show or anything.
• 1:45:11
  So that was the starting point. What was what you had put
• 1:45:14
  together with Michael Basham and and everybody else to do that
• 1:45:18
  round table episode. That's how That's how I.
• 1:45:21
  Found OK. OK.
• 1:45:22
  That's great. I'm glad.
• 1:45:22
  I'm glad that you mentioned that that it was Chris Price that
• 1:45:25
  invited you into the Christian podcast group and I know that
• 1:45:29
  that's not all inclusive of every Christian podcaster.
• 1:45:32
  So if you're listening out there and.
• 1:45:34
  And you? We haven't collaborated, please
• 1:45:37
  send us a message. We would love to hear from you
• 1:45:42
  for sure. You can send it to
• 1:45:45
  strangeoclock@yahoo.com. Or do you have an e-mail that
• 1:45:48
  they can send something to you? Yeah, actually in my show notes
• 1:45:51
  I have the e-mail address on the website
• 1:45:53
  butitsr.j.a.j.smith77@icloud.com. Okay.
• 1:46:02
  So they can e-mail you? Yeah, let me make sure I got
• 1:46:04
  that right. This sounds crazy, but I don't
• 1:46:06
  even know. It's okay.
• 1:46:08
  I could look it up. I do like show notes and stuff
• 1:46:10
  all the time. I don't.
• 1:46:12
  Well, that's right. It'll be in the show notes of
• 1:46:14
  your e-mail. And yeah, I got it right, just
• 1:46:16
  RJ ajsmith77icloud.com if somebody wants to reach out to
• 1:46:20
  me. But in the episode Show Notes
• 1:46:21
  you guys will find, I'll do links for anybody that I have on
• 1:46:25
  or just like brief. I'll write out a brief
• 1:46:27
  description of what the episode's about, and in this
• 1:46:30
  case, you'll be able to find. For one, this airs on my show.
• 1:46:33
  You'll be able to find a strange o'clock podcast.
• 1:46:36
  What What Peach is Doing. Michael Bash and what they're
• 1:46:38
  doing over there is really cool. They've had some awesome guests
• 1:46:41
  on. So for my listeners, all the
• 1:46:43
  mustards, see faith out there. We're we're small and a strong
• 1:46:46
  community. You guys don't understand the
• 1:46:49
  significance of this core group of just just us who who are
• 1:46:54
  loving the Lord and listening to all these podcasts over here.
• 1:46:56
  Keep praying for me and for their show and go over and show
• 1:46:59
  them some loves. The five star ratings and
• 1:47:01
  reviews for them and you guys got some awesome guests that I
• 1:47:05
  was like, man, I was kind of blown away by a couple of those
• 1:47:07
  episodes. I was like, wow, that really
• 1:47:09
  helped me get through the week. The Deliverance episode I forget
• 1:47:12
  was Steve, I want to say. Was it?
• 1:47:15
  Steve Harmon, Yeah, Steve Harmon, yeah.
• 1:47:17
  There's a couple episodes. I was like, wow, that's good.
• 1:47:19
  I listened to podcasts, but I don't listen to, like, a ton of
• 1:47:23
  different podcasts anymore. Like as time goes on, I listen
• 1:47:26
  to less and less and I'm like, right, right.
• 1:47:28
  Reading or audible listening to like audio books or just sure
• 1:47:32
  getting wild in my own mind. Like I gotta create some cool
• 1:47:35
  content here. Like I get ideas where I'm like
• 1:47:36
  this would be hilarious or this needs to be covered.
• 1:47:40
  Right, right. Awesome.
• 1:47:42
  And I I forgot to tell you how much I enjoyed that your
• 1:47:45
  conversation with Doctor Laura Singer.
• 1:47:47
  I really, I really liked that episode and that was really
• 1:47:50
  heartfelt. And I really, I really like any
• 1:47:54
  shows she does, especially the show that you did with her.
• 1:47:56
  I really like that. That's definitely one of my
• 1:47:58
  favorites. Like four times I think now we
• 1:48:01
  covered matters. Awesome.
• 1:48:02
  Yeah, we covered on breaking, breaking, iniquity and stuff
• 1:48:07
  like that, and then the spiritual mapping, the Nephilim
• 1:48:10
  agenda and then we she was on real recently actually, I think
• 1:48:13
  a month or two ago I dropped it and it was the fear of the Lord
• 1:48:16
  in defeating giants. And each one of them is just
• 1:48:19
  like, man, this is crazy. You definitely have great
• 1:48:22
  episodes and I love the guests that you've interviewed.
• 1:48:24
  I I'd. I need to catch up, but I
• 1:48:27
  listened to the last two with Dan de Waal, which is definitely
• 1:48:31
  a heavy hitter, and also the one with Enoch Putrice, our mutual
• 1:48:36
  friend. And then I've listened to four
• 1:48:38
  or five shows before that, and each one of them have been
• 1:48:41
  amazing. You're one of the best Christian
• 1:48:44
  hosts that I've heard. You're very warm and friendly
• 1:48:47
  and you're very honest and authentic and I'm really
• 1:48:50
  blessed. And impressed by by your podcast
• 1:48:54
  and and you in general you you definitely are a man of
• 1:48:56
  character it and some would say for a millennial but you but you
• 1:49:02
  really stand out among your peers for sure and and so glad
• 1:49:06
  that that you're that you're a voice for this your generation
• 1:49:09
  and you're really speaking faith to them because every generation
• 1:49:13
  whether a through Z needs the Lord Jesus and and I think that.
• 1:49:20
  There's not enough people that that give millennials or or even
• 1:49:23
  the younger generations kudos, you know, for for having faith
• 1:49:27
  and and yes it's you know, faith and going to church and reading
• 1:49:30
  the Bible and have a relationship with Jesus.
• 1:49:33
  It seems to be dwindling, you know, less and less, but at the
• 1:49:35
  same time it's more and more so. So, so yes, there's only like
• 1:49:40
  10% of Generation Y&Z that has like biblical Christian faith.
• 1:49:47
  But out of that 10%, oh boy, those people are on fire for
• 1:49:51
  Jesus And and it's, you know, the as, as the Bible says, a
• 1:49:54
  remnant will be saved. And even if it is, you know
• 1:49:57
  however many you know that is. But, but that whatever 10 or 20%
• 1:50:01
  of people can can you know light the world on fire and and share
• 1:50:06
  the love and passion of Jesus. You know with with those people,
• 1:50:10
  you know, whether it's podcasting or Youtubing or tik
• 1:50:13
  toking, you know there's there's young people.
• 1:50:15
  As a matter of fact, I I know that this young couple now, my
• 1:50:19
  gosh, I was blown away by Nick and Alyssa Dawson and.
• 1:50:24
  And they're. I think they're in their late
• 1:50:25
  20s. I'm not sure.
• 1:50:27
  But they used to be prayer counselors for Pastor Vlad
• 1:50:32
  Savchuk's ministry and then they win people to the Lord through
• 1:50:36
  TikTok And like I'm not even doing that.
• 1:50:38
  I just put out podcasts. I mean, but he's on the phone
• 1:50:41
  with them. Like I don't know about now, but
• 1:50:43
  I I think now but but I know that he he was at least and he
• 1:50:47
  might be still be doing now talking to people for like 4
• 1:50:51
  hours a day who are saying that they're suicidal.
• 1:50:54
  Or they're you know on drugs and they want to get off drugs and
• 1:50:58
  and they they are have questions about Jesus.
• 1:51:00
  They have questions about God and like Oh my gosh, I need to
• 1:51:04
  be present for people. I really want to switch gears
• 1:51:07
  and not just put out shows, but also to be to really be
• 1:51:12
  interactive with people And and I think that part of it would be
• 1:51:16
  probably getting on some of these platforms where there's a
• 1:51:19
  lot of younger people like TikTok.
• 1:51:23
  And and things like that. But anyway.
• 1:51:26
  But it was wonderful collaborating with you.
• 1:51:29
  Rod. Once again I'm so blessed by
• 1:51:31
  your testimonial and interacting with you and I do hope and pray
• 1:51:35
  that that this does reach people and and plan to seed in their
• 1:51:38
  hearts or or a strange millennial mustard seed in their
• 1:51:42
  hearts. We'll have to do this again in
• 1:51:47
  in the future and I love to talk with tell Michael Bash and I
• 1:51:51
  said what's up and I hope he's doing well.
• 1:51:53
  I see his lives every once in a while and I'll jump on.
• 1:51:56
  And he's always like the Mustard Seed is here watching me.
• 1:51:59
  And I was like, I love his personality, I think.
• 1:52:02
  He's Oh yeah. He's got a he's a cool guy.
• 1:52:03
  So I would love to talk with him at some point in time in the
• 1:52:07
  future both of both of you. And thank you for being cool and
• 1:52:13
  being you. And you, you have so much to
• 1:52:16
  offer the Kingdom and I'm just excited to see what God does
• 1:52:19
  moving forward with the Strange podcast so.
• 1:52:22
  And vice versa. I'm excited to see what the Lord
• 1:52:25
  is using, how the Lord is using you.
• 1:52:28
  And I can see He has and and I can see The Who will continue to
• 1:52:31
  to use you to to reach people through your direct message,
• 1:52:35
  your direct testimonial, as well as that your guest that you have
• 1:52:38
  on there. So kudos to you and and.
• 1:52:42
  Absolutely. And and I mean every bit of it
• 1:52:43
  and Michael and I would love to have you on again to to talk
• 1:52:46
  about some other topic if you want.
• 1:52:49
  And we'll have to pray about it and chat about it.
• 1:52:51
  But thank you so much for listening and watching the this
• 1:52:54
  Strange Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
• 1:52:57
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• 1:52:59
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