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IceMoM !! · GAS MONEY

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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to another Solomon the Gas Money Podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: Before we begin, gas attendants.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not Charlie.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm AG.
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SPEAKER_02: And you guys have been stupendous.
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SPEAKER_02: You guys have been great.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been running up the clips.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been liking, sharing, subscribing.
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SPEAKER_02: We get in places.
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SPEAKER_02: I love this.
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SPEAKER_02: But I will give Charlie his credit.
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SPEAKER_02: Without him, maybe you guys wouldn't got that kick in the pants that you needed.
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SPEAKER_02: But um I'm gonna welcome my illustrious co-host.
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SPEAKER_02: We got Mike Says in the building.
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SPEAKER_02: Mike says, What up, baby?
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SPEAKER_02: That's Mike with a Y, by the way.
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SPEAKER_02: And we have the Charlie Way in the building.
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SPEAKER_02: There's only one way with the Charlie Way.
1:00
SPEAKER_02: Charlie Way, only one way.
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SPEAKER_02: The only way.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, before we get into it, I have a couple questions for you, gentlemen.
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SPEAKER_02: Start with Mike, because you had a lot of questions from your last pod, and Mike, you owe him a couple.
1:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm about to catch smoke.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, not at all, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh Mike, um, my questions for Mike are more topic-related.
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SPEAKER_02: This is about your personal lives.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, why are a lot of people calling you Charles?
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SPEAKER_02: Is that disrespect?
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SPEAKER_02: Because now we're getting a lot of fan engagement, and I love it, y'all.
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SPEAKER_02: Fans keep y'all.
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SPEAKER_02: When y'all shit on us, it's the funniest shit ever.
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SPEAKER_02: We just be laughing at it.
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SPEAKER_02: But Charles, is that like a dig?
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SPEAKER_02: Is that a slight?
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SPEAKER_02: Because if it is, I'd like to add it to my repertoire.
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SPEAKER_02: But if this if it's bigging you up, then um, I know who you're talking about to be complacent.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I don't know who you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, I only saw one comment.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I don't read with that name.
1:45
SPEAKER_02: But so where'd you see it?
1:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh but that person, um, I really honestly don't know if he thinks my name is Charles.
1:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: Or if he's I really don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, it's funny because my sister says it, not as a dig, but just like being funny, like like whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think he knows what a dig is.
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SPEAKER_02: No, but uh no, it's because a dig is meant to be disrespectful.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, it's meant to be like to bother you.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: And it doesn't bother me.
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SPEAKER_02: She's just being like, she was like, she'll call my mom mother.
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SPEAKER_02: She'll be like, hey mother.
2:13
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's a dig.
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SPEAKER_02: That's a dig?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Nobody calls her my mother.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a dig in a funny way.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course, it can be funny.
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SPEAKER_02: Cool, cool, cool.
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SPEAKER_02: So I guess, I guess it is a dig, but it it won't work.
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SPEAKER_02: I love it, I love it.
2:26
SPEAKER_02: We're professionals.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: I have a stage name.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't don't listen, and I was gonna say, like, please refer to him as Charlie.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Or you're gonna have to deal with me.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:35
SPEAKER_02: All right, Mike.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, Mike says, um, baby.
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SPEAKER_02: Dominicans are very bad at spelling.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, it's so funny how black people get a rap for crazy names, but Dominicans get to walk on the names.
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SPEAKER_02: Mike is spelled M-I-K-E, but Mike says it's spelled.
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SPEAKER_02: How do you spell it?
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SPEAKER_02: M-Y.
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SPEAKER_02: M Y.
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SPEAKER_02: Um why?
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SPEAKER_02: Why?
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SPEAKER_06: You know, um, it's just a way to uh not follow the pack, you know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: I like that.
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SPEAKER_02: I like that.
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SPEAKER_02: You know?
3:05
SPEAKER_02: And one more question for you, sir.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh Charlie told me that this is like your 14th iteration.
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SPEAKER_02: You have been a lot of different monikers in life.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you give us the one right before Mike says?
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SPEAKER_02: The one uh it was uh true to Mike says.
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SPEAKER_02: Wait, what did he say?
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SPEAKER_02: True to Mike.
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SPEAKER_02: True to Mike.
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SPEAKER_02: True to Mike?
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SPEAKER_02: What is that?
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SPEAKER_02: What is that?
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SPEAKER_02: Like true to Mike's.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, true to Mike's?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, that was way too long.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: It was well, really, it was true to Mike's self.
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SPEAKER_06: Mike's self.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because it's like oh, it's a plain word.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that, like that.
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SPEAKER_02: He's good at this.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, now what happened was is that what were we talking about last part that I said that?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, that I had said I put a 30 on my nail for my birthday.
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SPEAKER_02: Do y'all hear me good?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we hear you.
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SPEAKER_02: I put a 30 on my nail for my birthday.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you had headphones on, you'd be a good one.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm too good for it.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, and then he was like, oh, he was making fun of me, listen that.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm like, yo, he's like, I think you said Mike wouldn't have done that, or what would Mike say about that, some shit like that.
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SPEAKER_03: And I'm like, you don't know, Mike.
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SPEAKER_03: This new mic, this every week all black, just chill, Mike.
4:01
SPEAKER_03: This ain't this ain't the mic that I grew up with.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he said you had frosted tips at one point.
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SPEAKER_02: I've um I'm very versatile.
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SPEAKER_02: Is that a pause?
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: No, because I told him you had blonde braids.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I did.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, frosted tips, nigga.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what that is.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what white when white people do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Frosted tips?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when white people put the bleach blonde shit at the top and everything else is brown.
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SPEAKER_02: They call it all bleach.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, you was on some like okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Dennis Rod meant too.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like some okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Goku shit.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if that's Goku, but sure.
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SPEAKER_02: All right.
4:37
SPEAKER_06: Um, you know, here's the thing.
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SPEAKER_06: In the R, we um, well, I'm I'm not gonna generalize, but a lot of people, you know, they like to kind of, you know, play with their styling, whatever this and that.
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SPEAKER_06: Oh no, we know about y'all.
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SPEAKER_02: Americans know about Dominican men.
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SPEAKER_02: I told you.
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SPEAKER_02: You guys are allowed to be borderline gay.
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SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's cool.
4:56
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna do that with the flag here?
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SPEAKER_02: I would disagree though.
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SPEAKER_02: That's just he he disagrees.
5:00
SPEAKER_02: What happened?
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SPEAKER_02: I think the flag is actually not supposed to be hung that way, but I'm gonna let Mike let you know that.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's disrespectful to have the flag like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Why?
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SPEAKER_02: Mike gonna Because it's sideways.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not a wreck.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Like flying sideways?
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SPEAKER_02: The flag flags are meant to be flown.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like it's not.
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SPEAKER_02: I I get what you say.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
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SPEAKER_02: He was in the military.
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SPEAKER_02: He knows exactly what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_03: All right, wait, but when you're in like a stadium with certain people, certain places, they drop the flag and it falls in and it unfolds that's for different things.
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SPEAKER_03: What do you mean?
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SPEAKER_03: It unfolds downwards.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just like, I hey, listen, I it's not bothering me.
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SPEAKER_02: That is true, though.
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SPEAKER_02: But the defense Dominicans out there might have a problem with you holding their flag like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Because you you kind of LARP in the Dominican shit.
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SPEAKER_02: We went over Dominican.
5:40
SPEAKER_02: How?
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SPEAKER_02: We went over this.
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SPEAKER_02: You're not as Dominican.
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SPEAKER_02: You're not as Dominican as you know, you could be.
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SPEAKER_02: Me, no black.
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SPEAKER_02: How much more Dominican do I gotta get?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know, but remember, y'all heard him.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't let him play with y'all.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, I promise we're gonna start the show soon.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, I gotta talk about my weekend if y'all don't have nothing to say.
5:58
SPEAKER_06: What's up?
5:58
SPEAKER_06: Go ahead, go ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, as y'all know, my son is the next football star in America, of course.
6:04
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna be the greatest thing smoking.
6:05
SPEAKER_02: But uh 2035 draft.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
6:07
SPEAKER_02: Um, but uh, we went to Staten Island.
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SPEAKER_02: Play a game.
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SPEAKER_02: Long drive.
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SPEAKER_02: A lot of flags over there.
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SPEAKER_02: A lot of flags, a lot of Trump.
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SPEAKER_02: No, don't tread on me.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you see the other flags?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, the, yeah, I saw everything out there.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: But uh the game was more important to me.
6:20
SPEAKER_02: So my son is finally playing with his age group, which is six and under.
6:23
SPEAKER_02: Normally he plays at the nine-year-olds, now he's finally playing with the six-year-olds.
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SPEAKER_02: And he is dominating.
6:28
SPEAKER_02: He has six sacks, he has uh forced three fumbles.
6:30
SPEAKER_02: I know that means nothing to you guys.
6:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
6:32
SPEAKER_02: If you guys don't watch football, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I love it.
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SPEAKER_02: Stats.
6:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's impressive.
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SPEAKER_02: It's very impressive.
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SPEAKER_02: I just want to give my son a round of applause.
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SPEAKER_02: Good job, son.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he made me proud.
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SPEAKER_02: I was a really proud dad.
6:43
SPEAKER_02: They lost 24 to 0.
6:45
SPEAKER_02: But he his individual performance was great.
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SPEAKER_02: The scouts still saw what he did.
6:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
6:51
SPEAKER_02: That's you know, that's how it goes.
6:52
SPEAKER_02: Football's his ultimate team sport, so you know, one guy can't win a game by himself.
6:55
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it was it was a it was a really good uh day.
6:57
SPEAKER_02: What's his position called?
6:58
SPEAKER_02: Um, he's on the he play so for because of his age, they don't really switch um offense and defense.
7:05
SPEAKER_02: Usually play so on offense, he's the center, which is the guy that snaps the ball.
7:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
7:10
SPEAKER_02: And then on defense, he's like the defensive tackle.
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SPEAKER_02: So he goes and gets the quarterback.
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SPEAKER_02: And he was just getting the quarterback all day.
7:16
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
7:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, really, really dope stuff.
7:17
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, shout out my son.
7:18
SPEAKER_02: Shout out the Rockaway Ravens, it's a team he plays for.
7:20
SPEAKER_02: Come and support uh your local community teams.
7:22
SPEAKER_02: Uh, we need some support.
7:23
SPEAKER_02: Please come out there.
7:24
SPEAKER_02: We play at Beach 32nd Street.
7:26
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
7:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh let you guys know when the home games are.
7:28
SPEAKER_02: All right, um, Mike.
7:29
SPEAKER_02: Now, why why would you do that?
7:30
SPEAKER_02: What?
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SPEAKER_06: Whole location, whole address, whole now, now whoever is out to get you, because I just Yeah, they can they can run up and die.
7:41
SPEAKER_02: That's no problem.
7:42
SPEAKER_02: Here's a gun.
7:43
SPEAKER_04: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Whoa, whoa.
7:46
SPEAKER_02: Calm down some more.
7:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I just assume.
7:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
7:49
SPEAKER_02: That's the Dominican idiot.
7:50
SPEAKER_02: I know.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm also Haitian.
7:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, but um K-LK.
7:55
SPEAKER_02: This is a community.
7:56
SPEAKER_02: Nobody gotta smoke with me, man.
7:57
SPEAKER_02: It's all community.
7:58
SPEAKER_02: It's all community.
7:58
SPEAKER_02: And anybody willing to come to Far Rockaway and think that they're just gonna waltz in the Far Rockaway and nah.
8:05
SPEAKER_02: They're in for a rude awakening.
8:06
SPEAKER_02: All right.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, Mike, Charley, y'all have anything y'all want to talk about before we start?
8:12
SPEAKER_02: We have a lot of pressing banners to get to.
8:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I'm ready.
8:15
SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
8:15
SPEAKER_02: Ready to go.
8:16
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's start with y'all um, FOMI.
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SPEAKER_02: I got it.
8:18
SPEAKER_03: Taking too long.
8:19
SPEAKER_03: We FOMO, FOMO, FOMO, FOMO, Fear of Missing Out.
8:23
SPEAKER_03: That premiered, I want to say Tuesday, September 15th.
8:27
SPEAKER_02: Did you guys stay up and wait for the stream?
8:29
SPEAKER_02: No, I caught it um when I caught it.
8:31
SPEAKER_02: Mike, did you stay up and wait for the stream?
8:33
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
8:34
SPEAKER_02: Not and so on September 15th, it was supposed to drop at 9 p.m.
8:41
SPEAKER_03: Alright?
8:41
SPEAKER_03: So at 8 55, by the way, I prepped everybody.
8:44
SPEAKER_03: I prepped my girl.
8:44
SPEAKER_03: I said, yo, it was like 7.30.
8:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, yo, just say what you gotta say.
8:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you let her know that you're not available.
8:52
SPEAKER_02: 8.59?
8:52
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
8:53
SPEAKER_02: You won't be able to reach.
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SPEAKER_02: Respect.
8:54
SPEAKER_02: All right.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: Out of reach.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm on a fight.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: So at 9 p.m., and I'm rushing to do laundry because I'm trying to like not have nothing to do while it comes on.
9:01
SPEAKER_02: Cause I don't know what is what to expect.
9:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how long it's gonna be.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: Whatever the case is.
9:05
SPEAKER_02: Because he said not so short film on his Instagram.
9:08
SPEAKER_02: So it gets pushed back to 10 p.m.
9:13
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, work the next day?
9:16
SPEAKER_02: I did.
9:17
SPEAKER_02: But I'm like, alright, let's whatever, we're waiting.
9:20
SPEAKER_02: 10 p.m.
9:21
SPEAKER_02: Push back to 10.30.
9:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm getting nervous.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: This is not like him.
9:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he did I think uh I think uh 35 Love Work came out two hours late.
9:31
SPEAKER_02: It's been a little sometimes where the albums drop a little late, but I have faith.
9:36
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
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SPEAKER_03: Iceman.
9:38
SPEAKER_03: And lo and behold, at around 10:37, it premieres.
9:44
SPEAKER_02: It's him cutting the hedges at his at his mansion.
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SPEAKER_02: He's dusting his studio and you know, dusting off his, I guess, plaques or whatever is on the wall.
9:53
SPEAKER_02: He has a lot of plaques.
9:54
SPEAKER_02: He does.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: And one of the most one of my least favorite songs on uh Maid of Honor starts playing.
10:02
SPEAKER_02: You guessed it.
10:02
SPEAKER_02: Bastard, Cheetah Print.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, oh boy.
10:07
SPEAKER_02: Well where where is this going?
10:09
SPEAKER_02: Come on, Drizzy.
10:10
SPEAKER_02: This wasn't the one to cut, like I didn't think it was the one to to start off with.
10:15
SPEAKER_02: And then it then we then it shows him in a I guess replica Michael Jackson jacket.
10:20
SPEAKER_02: You know, what do you call that jacket?
10:21
SPEAKER_02: Like the did you see it?
10:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:22
SPEAKER_02: What would you like?
10:23
SPEAKER_02: What does that refer to?
10:24
SPEAKER_02: Like a military?
10:26
SPEAKER_02: That's like a marching band jacket.
10:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like a marching band jacket.
10:28
SPEAKER_02: So everybody knows that that famous Michael Jackson um show.
10:31
SPEAKER_02: Did he do it at the Super Bowl?
10:32
SPEAKER_02: I think that might have been the Super Bowl.
10:34
unknown: Yeah.
10:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh, see, I didn't think about that.
10:38
SPEAKER_02: Biggest the what?
10:39
SPEAKER_02: Because now the super okay.
10:41
SPEAKER_02: So um, so he's in that jacket, uh, I think a purple one, but he's also like in sweatpants and socks.
10:46
SPEAKER_02: So it's not a whole outfit, it's just that he's having a drink, he's in his kitchen, he's running, he's dancing all around his house to the song.
10:52
SPEAKER_02: Cool.
10:53
SPEAKER_02: Um And then sexy red comes out.
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SPEAKER_02: My baby.
10:57
SPEAKER_02: Big sexy.
10:58
SPEAKER_02: I love sexy red.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: I love uh you you have to love, you know, sexy red is our or y'all's this is gonna be a bad episode for your boy.
11:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you, you might want to.
11:11
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
11:12
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
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SPEAKER_03: Sexy red is our Cardi B.
11:14
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
11:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, she is like, because we love ratchet as Cardi B, no matter what she does or says, or how crazy she may look, who she may sleep with.
11:23
SPEAKER_02: That's Cardi B.
11:24
SPEAKER_02: Like, you gotta love Cardi B.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: Then that's a great take, yes.
11:26
SPEAKER_02: You know, so sexy red is is the black Cardi B, right?
11:29
SPEAKER_02: Even though Cardi B's black, too.
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SPEAKER_02: I would say Cardi B is the black sexy red, but you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Cardi B's the black.
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SPEAKER_02: She's a Spanish sexy B.
11:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm saying sexy.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: Nah, come on, Cardi B came out first.
11:39
SPEAKER_02: There is there may there may not be no sexy red without Cardi.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: That's the real take.
11:43
SPEAKER_02: I just I disagree with you.
11:44
SPEAKER_02: That's the real take.
11:44
SPEAKER_02: I disagree with you.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: I disagree with you, but I I don't think it's a crazy take.
11:48
SPEAKER_02: I disagree, but I I see.
11:49
SPEAKER_02: Nobody was moving and looking and talking like Cardi when before Cardi came out.
11:53
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of them.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Lil' Kim, I guess, but that was that's a lot of them.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: It's a little different.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, anyway.
12:00
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I'm not gonna break down the whole stream step by step, but excuse me.
12:05
SPEAKER_02: Um he also dropped some new music.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh it was a new I I think I liked all of them except one.
12:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't know the name because he didn't drop the names for them, but um he dropped music videos for about eight songs on Habipti and Maid of Honor, whatever.
12:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: Um I'm not gonna lie, I loved his mom in the video.
12:26
SPEAKER_02: That was hard.
12:27
SPEAKER_02: That was mom with her with her friends.
12:29
SPEAKER_02: That's fire, all berkeyed out, shopping with the assistant with the scare.
12:33
SPEAKER_02: I liked it.
12:33
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: That was hard.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: That was hard.
12:35
SPEAKER_02: Y'all keep playing on this white thing, like, yeah, it's my mom.
12:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, lean into it.
12:40
SPEAKER_02: Hate it or love it, you know what I'm saying?
12:41
SPEAKER_02: Because he's had his dad in videos too, so it's not like he's picking and choosing, but Steve Harvey suits you.
12:48
SPEAKER_02: I like it's a good bar.
12:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh, that's not a diss.
12:51
SPEAKER_02: I didn't say it was.
12:55
SPEAKER_02: The source you got it from didn't say it as a diss.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: That's not a dish.
12:58
SPEAKER_02: Steve Harvey might be the sharpest, one of the sharpest out there in the suit game.
13:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you're a suit guy.
13:03
SPEAKER_02: Steve Harvey suit.
13:04
SPEAKER_02: That's not how that bar is with the city.
13:06
SPEAKER_02: I know, but I'm just saying, he's clean.
13:07
SPEAKER_02: Ain't nobody ever say Steve Harvey look crazy in the suit.
13:09
SPEAKER_02: Is Steve Harvey wearing his own suits, though?
13:11
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean his own suits?
13:12
SPEAKER_02: Is Steve Harvey?
13:14
SPEAKER_02: He has a brand of suit.
13:14
SPEAKER_02: He has a suit line, yeah.
13:16
SPEAKER_03: That's what that bar is about.
13:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh I didn't know I didn't know if Steve Harvey had a suit.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: He does, of course he does.
13:22
SPEAKER_02: That's hard.
13:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, but anyway, um, that was I love that video.
13:26
SPEAKER_02: I like Winnie Harlow in it.
13:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, I didn't expect Lena the.
13:29
SPEAKER_02: Am I jumping the gun?
13:30
SPEAKER_02: Should I let y'all know?
13:31
SPEAKER_02: I have a couple of questions from Mike about this whole thing, but I love what you're doing, brother.
13:37
SPEAKER_02: All right, so um, I love seeing Winnie Harlow in there.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I just he never fails to show the representation of all different types of women.
13:45
SPEAKER_02: Yes, there's white girls in the video, yes, there's um black girls in the video.
13:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, they're it's they're all in there, you know, but they only want to lean on the fact that he has Goth Chick made it.
13:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I will yeah, Goth Chick was in there.
13:55
SPEAKER_02: Specifically, what I want to speak about.
13:56
SPEAKER_02: Goth Chick was in there.
13:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, I thought that was a great lean-in.
14:00
SPEAKER_02: Like he just leans into all the bullshit.
14:02
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, y'all thought barking was crazy?
14:03
SPEAKER_02: Right.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: Watch this.
14:04
SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
14:05
SPEAKER_06: Like, it just he just he's doing all this.
14:07
SPEAKER_06: Huh?
14:08
SPEAKER_06: He's doing all this.
14:09
SPEAKER_06: Uh I mean, he wore a choker.
14:10
SPEAKER_02: No, that's what I'm saying.
14:11
SPEAKER_02: When he came out with a choker, he was like, Don't worry.
14:14
SPEAKER_02: Mike, you you you better be ready to answer my question.
14:16
SPEAKER_02: Mike is where I got the smoke.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: So, um you?
14:19
SPEAKER_02: We already know what you mean.
14:19
SPEAKER_03: And the goth shake look even badder.
14:21
SPEAKER_03: Like, uh, she's even more attractive.
14:23
SPEAKER_02: Even though it's the same outfit, same skin tone.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: Don't do it for me, sorry.
14:26
SPEAKER_02: The jugs was there.
14:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm a jug guy.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: Jugs are cool.
14:29
SPEAKER_02: I like the jugs.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: Um I'm not saying she's unattractive.
14:32
SPEAKER_02: I just want to say that.
14:33
SPEAKER_02: I it's just not mine.
14:34
SPEAKER_02: She might be the she might be the like whitest person I've ever seen.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: Like, she's really weird.
14:37
SPEAKER_02: No, it's an aesthetic.
14:38
SPEAKER_02: That's not her actual skin color.
14:39
SPEAKER_02: That's makeup.
14:40
SPEAKER_02: It's makeup?
14:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's makeup.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: It's a look.
14:42
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: People are that white.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: I'm 90% sure.
14:45
SPEAKER_02: It's a whole, and there's a whole sub okay.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: I know her outfit and makeup is a look, but the the skin color, because it's all over.
14:51
SPEAKER_02: I know it is all over.
14:53
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of makeup editing that true.
14:55
SPEAKER_02: I yeah, because next to Drake, it was like Drake looked damn near dark skinned next to the bigger.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't think we should go that far.
15:01
SPEAKER_02: Okay, we won't go.
15:02
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to Brady.
15:03
SPEAKER_02: We won't go that far.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: I gotta defend my card.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: But um clearly, because you know Lena the Plug.
15:08
SPEAKER_03: Let's let's spend some time on this.
15:12
SPEAKER_02: She's climbing the ranks.
15:14
SPEAKER_02: Of what?
15:15
SPEAKER_02: Patty.
15:16
SPEAKER_02: Not for me.
15:17
SPEAKER_02: She's climbing the ranks.
15:18
SPEAKER_02: I didn't I never I never watched her online.
15:21
SPEAKER_02: I did watch a clip of the her and what's the dude's name?
15:24
SPEAKER_02: That's Adam.
15:25
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't know.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh, her boyfriend, too?
15:27
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: The guy she did a black dude.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
15:31
SPEAKER_02: I did see a clip of that.
15:32
SPEAKER_02: But you know, you don't really get to see a person's whole body and that, whatever the case is.
15:36
SPEAKER_02: I just know that when I saw her in this Drake video, she looked fire.
15:41
SPEAKER_02: She looked pretty.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: Body didn't look exaggerated.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: The makeup wasn't too much.
15:45
SPEAKER_02: Her voice, even her voice was nice.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: Just I I just like the whole scene.
15:50
SPEAKER_02: She's an attractive woman.
15:51
SPEAKER_02: The whole scene.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: She has a long way to go.
15:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm climbing the ranks.
15:55
SPEAKER_02: But like where where are where we can be like in the basement.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: I mean, she's still not seeing the sunlight yet.
16:00
SPEAKER_02: Okay, cool.
16:01
SPEAKER_02: We're on the same page.
16:02
SPEAKER_02: She's still climbing the range.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: She's in the basement.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: She's in the basement.
16:04
SPEAKER_02: Because it's a lot of bad.
16:05
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Winnie Harlow.
16:06
SPEAKER_02: She's not Winnie Harlow level.
16:07
SPEAKER_02: Winnie Harlow's out of here.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's out of here.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: She's out of here.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: Crazy.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, and again, she's also been kind of quiet for a while, and I haven't seen Winnie in a while.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: All white parties by the last time I saw her.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: True.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: And it was good to see her pop out in this.
16:19
SPEAKER_02: She's with uh this is where we get gossipy.
16:22
SPEAKER_02: She's with um Kyle Kuzman, no?
16:24
SPEAKER_02: I think I think she was.
16:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if she's last I heard.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: Last I heard.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: It's a beautiful one.
16:28
SPEAKER_03: Um but yeah, let's look fine.
16:30
SPEAKER_03: And it's just also like just the way he Drake, way he um leans into like the human side of him.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, you would think like it's impossible to get in Drake's house.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: It would be impossible to get in his pool or his closet, or just like to be around him, or just be able to like hug him.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: Stunner Standy was um massaging him and the golf girls like all on his face and bit his neck.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: Like, like he just gives you a sense of like I'm one of y'all.
16:54
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know what I'm saying?
16:55
SPEAKER_03: Like, who thought Leonardo the Plug would be in his house, in his pool?
16:58
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
16:59
SPEAKER_03: Like, it's just a fly.
17:00
SPEAKER_02: This is where you and I we our paths diverge.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: Again, I don't want to sound like a broken record.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: I like my superstars to be a little more superstars.
17:16
SPEAKER_02: And every name, even the goth girl, I give niggas a pass on.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: Because I like when um men show that I can take an obscure female that nobody knows or cares about and elevate them to a level of you know, that's what rappers have been doing forever.
17:31
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm sure the goth girl's phone is off the hook.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, she's uh she's out of here.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and respect respectfully she should be, because of all she needed was a spotlight, which is most people.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: All we really need is a spotlight from most of us, and we'll be out of here.
17:41
SPEAKER_02: Um but then this is why I disagree with you.
17:44
SPEAKER_02: The Lena the Plug thing to me is like putting lipstick on a pig.
17:48
SPEAKER_05: Like Damn.
17:49
SPEAKER_02: I she can't she's from the underbelly of society, and um I I think somebody of Drake's it's the same way I look at the um, and this is not me hating on women, but it's the same way I look at the Selena Powell girl.
18:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, I think as a superstar, her your name should not be in this woman's mouth.
18:09
SPEAKER_02: And Linda the Plug to me is in that same sphere.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: But again, this is just where you and I diverge.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: But everything else you were saying was was solid.
18:17
SPEAKER_02: Do you think there's Adam and Drake smoke?
18:20
SPEAKER_02: No, I think this is the opposite.
18:22
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so even the fact that Adam and her are broken up.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: They're not.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: That shit is all fake.
18:27
SPEAKER_02: All fake.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: All fake.
18:28
SPEAKER_02: It's all it's all rollout for them.
18:30
SPEAKER_02: They have they they do porn.
18:32
SPEAKER_02: And what that the whole thing with her sleeping with the dude, that shit, he did the fake.
18:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I want to box this.
18:37
SPEAKER_02: Didn't he box him actually?
18:38
SPEAKER_02: And he lost.
18:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he 100%.
18:40
SPEAKER_06: I was I was about to say, after watching this video, I feel like the whole divorce thing is like all of that shit is fou gazy, and then I can see them, you know.
18:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's all to build a he's building a porn empire, and that's bravo to him.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh, but that yeah, I don't know.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: If if I'm Drake or Drake's status, I don't I just can't pick an pick another superstar out the out the out the you know box, and I would not ever associate them with Alinda the Plug.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: Every other w all the other women you name, like I think, but that I think that's the point is coming down to earth.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but for me, like, nah.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: I like I like my superstars like Michael Jackson.
19:12
SPEAKER_03: It's different styles, yeah.
19:13
SPEAKER_06: It's different.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's yeah, just for me, though.
19:15
SPEAKER_03: It's it's like it's like we spoke about a couple pies ago, the Batman thing where Batman walks amongst us.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he's Bruce Wayne, he's not gonna be able to do it.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: But he's but he also could the minute he puts the suit on, he's walking amongst us, it'll be weird.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: And that's that's no, yeah.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: He's not walking amongst us in the suit.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but like I Drake is still Drake.
19:30
SPEAKER_02: It's not like he's taking what you sounds like.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's not taking the uniform off.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: He's still cool as fuck.
19:34
SPEAKER_02: He's I told you what Drake has mastered to me is turning simping into the coolest thing in the world.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: He's the only person I've ever seen do that.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: Like what Future has done with being like not pimping, but what Future has done with Macing and getting girls and all my bitches got APs, Drake has done that with simping, and I think that's an even better skill because simping is not supposed to be cool.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's done that.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: But my questions for Charlie.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm sorry, for Mike.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: I look at you at as the epitome of masculinity.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: Alright, we're not gonna go that far.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, epitome?
20:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking for myself.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: Epitome.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm building him up to knock him down, bro.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: No, Charlie, what's the thing?
20:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, it's just hate, right?
20:13
SPEAKER_02: Stay on that side.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because there's two type of Dominican niggas in the world.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: It's you and his Mike.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: So I look at you as like, you know, Mr.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: Masculinity.
20:22
SPEAKER_02: I love a lot of your ideals.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: Me and you are probably gonna say wavelength about 90% of things.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: And then I look at you, I'm like, how can you be a fan of Drake?
20:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, and this this is I wanted to ask you this weeks ago, but it's never coming up.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: And it's almost as if God knew that this shit was gonna happen.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: The the the photo of Drake with painted nails, a choker, and doing the emote, the the would you would you not emote?
20:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, how does Mike rationalize this?
20:51
SPEAKER_02: How does I guess it's the duality of Mike.
20:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
20:54
SPEAKER_02: As a masculine pro-masculine guy, I can see some because I saw somebody make this point, yeah, that Drake was the beginning of the softness of men.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: Because there's men out here with nail art where when we grow up, when we grew up, sorry, in the era we grew up in, you could not go to school as a man with nail art.
21:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:12
SPEAKER_02: You'd be called some inflammatory names.
21:14
SPEAKER_02: Colorful.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, colorful language.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
21:18
SPEAKER_02: So so so talk to me, Mike.
21:20
SPEAKER_02: How do you uh reconcile yourself with this?
21:22
SPEAKER_06: That's um that's uh that's an interesting question.
21:24
SPEAKER_06: Uh I think I I I just don't like for me, I view it just as art.
21:32
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
21:32
SPEAKER_06: You know, you understand?
21:33
SPEAKER_06: Like, um, I'm sure uh a lot of what we see of Drake in his videos is his personality, right?
21:40
SPEAKER_06: But a lot of it ain't he just he just knows what to you know how to like like that's like the society now.
21:48
SPEAKER_06: And real quick, just to make a parentheses, on what you said earlier about the stardom and stuff, like I get that, but you know, the problem is that the world has changed, right?
21:57
SPEAKER_06: And you know, I I heard I remember uh I think hearing Will Smith talk about this, he said, Hey, like back then, you know, when you were a star, like the way it was is like you want to be further away from the public.
22:11
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
22:11
SPEAKER_06: Right?
22:11
SPEAKER_06: It's like, you know, you because you want your you you walked with this aura.
22:15
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
22:16
SPEAKER_06: Did I say that right?
22:17
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
22:17
SPEAKER_06: Aura.
22:18
SPEAKER_06: Aura.
22:19
SPEAKER_06: And like, you know, it you wanted to have that like Michael Jackson effect, like you in the mall, you are just like, ah, right?
22:25
SPEAKER_06: So, but he's like, so uh technology has changed that.
22:28
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
22:29
SPEAKER_06: So now it's like everything is about like they want to know, they want to be more up close.
22:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they want to know what cereal you eat.
22:34
SPEAKER_06: They want to know what's cereal, your coffee, do you work out?
22:37
SPEAKER_06: Do you this?
22:38
SPEAKER_06: Then you had a baddie over last night.
22:40
SPEAKER_06: So I feel like Drake knows and understands that.
22:42
SPEAKER_06: And you know, it's just a different, you know, world.
22:45
SPEAKER_06: And back to like how I, you know, um, I guess like how I could be a fan of his.
22:51
SPEAKER_06: It's just um I I guess it's a mixture of like not taking certain things too serious, and also um because you know, because it's not like does masculine music exist?
23:05
SPEAKER_06: Like, is there a song that exists like where it's like talking about masculinity?
23:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would say a lot of uh pop smoke music was very masculine.
23:11
SPEAKER_02: Just to pick a name, an artist of this era.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but he was he made a very masculine movie.
23:17
SPEAKER_06: Okay, yeah, yeah, I I I guess, I guess.
23:19
SPEAKER_06: In in that sense, you know.
23:21
SPEAKER_06: Um, but who else?
23:23
SPEAKER_06: Like, or or give me like masculine to want to kill someone because for example, because bachata is like very, you know, romantic and you know, love and uh, you know, uh it it kind of stems from like being heartbroken and stuff, and it's unfair because you don't speak Spanish.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: Usher Usher makes very masculine music.
23:39
SPEAKER_03: Okay, Usher.
23:41
SPEAKER_03: Usher makes masculine music?
23:43
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, because to me, like I say this all the time, the problem with modern RB music from the male's perspective, is there's not enough crooning for their women.
23:53
SPEAKER_02: It's all about how I'm gonna fuck you tonight.
23:56
SPEAKER_02: As opposed to Usher is about yearning.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: Most of his music is about he lost a girl, he's trying to get her back, or he's out on the prowl trying to find girls.
24:03
SPEAKER_02: I would say that's a very masculine thing.
24:05
SPEAKER_02: Going and chasing and getting girls is masculine.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: Already having a girl and saying how many of them you're fucking is like that's kind of childish.
24:12
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
24:13
SPEAKER_02: And it's not the essence of RB music to me, if you're asking.
24:16
SPEAKER_06: I get what you're saying, but I feel like, for example, RB in itself is like like being vulnerable is not masculine, but you kind of gotta.
24:23
SPEAKER_06: You know, you kind of get so it's like tricky, you know.
24:25
SPEAKER_06: So I guess for that.
24:26
SPEAKER_02: That's the art in it.
24:27
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that I view it more like as art, you know.
24:28
SPEAKER_06: That's pretty much kind of how it is, you know.
24:31
SPEAKER_06: Um just like acting or watching a movie, is like I might watch a movie that's not really, you know, whatever, like, but you know, I just view it as art.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so you separate uh the art from the artist, but do you, as a self-proclaimed masculine man, do you look at Drake as another masculine man when you like see how he traverses through the world?
24:54
SPEAKER_02: Um how would Andrew Tate look at Drake?
24:58
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:59
SPEAKER_06: So realistically, like for example, like when I see him do these little like the changing.
25:04
SPEAKER_06: Funny enough, when I saw him do that, I instantly thought, I'm like, oh my god, like, you know, like I because I know what's happening.
25:10
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, this don't look good.
25:11
SPEAKER_06: Like, you know, it was like she's in control.
25:14
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, she's in control, and it's like, no, not that outfit.
25:18
SPEAKER_06: No, it's it's kind of like, you know, it was funny though.
25:20
SPEAKER_06: It's funny.
25:21
SPEAKER_02: I really I would have preferred, like, I couldn't see little Wayne doing that.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: I can't think of another artist on that level doing something like that.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: I think I think that's where he wants to be.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: No, that's fair.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: You want to where no one can do whatever.
25:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you also have to accept the critiques then.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
25:40
SPEAKER_02: Which is why he leans into the golf thing.
25:42
SPEAKER_02: And that shit is fucking cringe and corny to me, to me, to me.
25:45
SPEAKER_02: And again, I'm a new Drake fan.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: I have nothing against him musically.
25:49
SPEAKER_02: He has songs that slap, he has songs that I can't revive with.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: But from a persona standpoint, why specifically I knew I already knew where you stood on this, but I never got a chance to speak to Mike about it.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: It was very interesting to me because it's like I wonder how Mike has to rationalize where this dude is painting his nails.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: I can't, like when you said the third, the painting the 30 on your nails, I can't imagine Mike doing no shit.
26:09
SPEAKER_02: It was only one nail.
26:10
SPEAKER_02: I I could have been fucking invisible ink.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: Like, I just couldn't imagine Mike.
26:14
SPEAKER_02: Well, Mike says the one that I know, yeah, approving of, yo, because Drake has affected the culture.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, let's be let's be clear.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: But now, let's be clear also.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: He Drake is probably the last one to start with the nail painting.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know that to be true.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: He just this is recent, very recent.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: Maybe a maybe a year.
26:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but is he the most influential one?
26:33
SPEAKER_03: At nails painting, I don't think so.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: I think it would probably be like Uzi or or or Playboy or more influential than Drake, but we're talking about in terms of like nail painting?
26:41
SPEAKER_06: Like, I don't think people are painting their nails because Drake is painting.
26:44
SPEAKER_06: Or maybe more like in terms of color, because like you know, nail painting, like, you know, back in the 80s, them rock bands black nails.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: So it's like if we want to take it there.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's not the culture I'm talking about.
26:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about hip hop.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's not my culture.
26:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, in hip-hop, I'm seeing a lot of this nail art.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Like, I listen to a podcast.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: Um Even the basketball player.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: What's that basketball player?
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's his nail's crazy.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: And some players look at him like he's fucking nuts.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, but Jared McCain, and he's a huge Drake fan.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think he got a baddie too.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: And he's he's good at basketball too.
27:13
SPEAKER_02: And he's a huge Drake fan.
27:14
SPEAKER_02: The point that I'm making.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't see him.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: He's not a I'm not saying he's not an Uzi fan, but he's presented himself as a huge Drake fan.
27:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying that people, that nail painting has been going on long before Drake started.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: I that's not what I'm debating.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: He he actually said Yachty put.
27:28
SPEAKER_02: Cool, but does who has more influence is my point.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter who did something first.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: It matters I'm just saying influential people.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: The influence like he's like, Because do you think if Drake didn't paint his nails, would there be more nail painting?
27:38
SPEAKER_02: No.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: I I think it was it was already here.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: That's not what I'm debating.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: It's a megaphone.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: If I guess if Drake does it, it's gonna add more.
27:46
SPEAKER_03: Whether it's one or a million, yes, but I'm just saying that it's one thing if if it's like it's not it's like when Kanye did the skinny jeans or the matter.
27:54
SPEAKER_03: That was there was very few people in America doing that.
27:57
SPEAKER_03: So when he told Kanye did it, now it changed the culture.
28:01
SPEAKER_03: No, wait, but then what I'm saying is that in the same comparison, it's like Drake doing the skinny jeans after Kanye.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: Like they were already.
28:08
SPEAKER_03: It was when he's done, like people already rock his skinny jeans.
28:11
SPEAKER_03: I'm not rolling over there.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: Why'd you why'd you paint your nail?
28:12
SPEAKER_02: If you can be honest.
28:13
SPEAKER_03: It was literally not because of Drake.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't.
28:15
SPEAKER_03: No, that is true, though.
28:16
SPEAKER_03: That is true.
28:16
SPEAKER_06: That is true, though.
28:17
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no problem.
28:18
SPEAKER_06: Which part?
28:19
SPEAKER_06: No, like I I am with Charlie here.
28:21
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like these kids were painting their nails.
28:23
SPEAKER_06: And I'm not talking about kids.
28:24
SPEAKER_06: But you are right.
28:24
SPEAKER_06: I'm not talking about kids, by the way.
28:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, people talking about our peer group.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: I did not see Nick, I'm telling you, the the dudes that I know that are painting their nails today.
28:33
SPEAKER_03: I think I had painted mine before Drake did.
28:35
SPEAKER_03: This is old.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: That's why I asked.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: And you you gave me your answer, and I accept that.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: You got that part.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm talking about is the the guys of our age group, the dudes that were born in the 90s, went to school in the 2000s, that could not go to school with painted nails, that called other dudes, because there was dudes that painted their nails in my school, and we had a name for them.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: Those same dudes that was making fun of those dudes are now painting their nails.
28:56
SPEAKER_02: You called them Megan Mike.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: I didn't call them anything.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: Why are we?
29:00
SPEAKER_03: No, that was the no, that was the name.
29:02
SPEAKER_05: It just so happens that you see why the name changed?
29:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, now I'm with you.
29:06
SPEAKER_02: Now I'm with you.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, from what I'm saying, is like there's dudes of my age group, our age group, and older that are painting their nails, and they didn't do that when they were growing up.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: And it's I'm attributing that to Drake because he's the biggest artist in the world.
29:17
SPEAKER_02: You can't have it both ways.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately, yes.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: You cannot have it both ways.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: One week we come in here, we say that Drake is the most influential, and then now when I'm talking about nail painting, y'all are like, nah, it's Uzi.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: No, he's he's the most influential musically.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: No, music and hip hop is culture, though.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: No, but nobody wants to, nobody dresses like Drake.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: Nobody uh like bro.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: Talk.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: Did you put a uh um a heart in your hair when he did that?
29:39
SPEAKER_02: I saw mad niggas doing that.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: But that's that's that's culture.
29:43
SPEAKER_02: You don't know what culture is?
29:44
SPEAKER_02: All right, we're not gonna act like Drake's influence is his style and wardrobe.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: Like it's a part of influence.
29:50
SPEAKER_02: Drake has a mad haircut.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: That was the one, okay.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: It was a heart because it was just like whatever people probably did it for Valentine's Day, whatever the case was.
29:55
SPEAKER_02: What am I missing here?
29:56
SPEAKER_06: Is Drake influential or not?
29:58
SPEAKER_06: He he he is, he is.
29:59
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: Drake's influential.
30:00
SPEAKER_03: He is, he is, he is nigga.
30:03
SPEAKER_03: So Lena, none of the plug is influential.
30:05
SPEAKER_03: What I'm saying is that No, she's not when we're talking about fucking King Kardashian.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is that people look at people don't let you use Lena the Plug as an example.
30:12
SPEAKER_02: You think she's in on the same level?
30:14
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just saying.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: That's what you just do with Uzi Giotti right now.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: You brought it down to say is Drake influential?
30:18
SPEAKER_03: Of course.
30:18
SPEAKER_03: Yes, he's influential.
30:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but Drake.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: But I'm trying to tell me that niggas is not painting their nails because of Drake.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: Cool.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: Then I'm giving you another example about the I never seen nobody putting a fucking uh heart in their hair until Drake did it.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: And now you're telling me that that's not influential.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay, name something else.
30:33
SPEAKER_02: Drake has been out 20 years.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: Name something else.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: The braids.
30:36
SPEAKER_02: That's Drake?
30:37
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
30:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh my God.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: Alright, bro.
30:40
SPEAKER_02: There's a whole Drake-like contest.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm styling their hair like that.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna say Drake is the reason people are getting braids?
30:47
SPEAKER_02: Drake is a reason why a certain demographic of males have gone from a slow Caesar with a fucking um uh heart in their hair to braiding their hair.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: Fresh Montana had braids because of Drake.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: What are we gonna say?
30:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm not no, I think French had it before Drake.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: No, he did not.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: French Drake.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: He didn't.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: Nah, I'm not gonna lie.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna lie.
31:05
SPEAKER_02: Nigga, Drake is very influential, but whatever.
31:07
SPEAKER_02: Braids, though?
31:08
SPEAKER_06: Is it the braids?
31:09
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
31:10
SPEAKER_06: Drake.
31:12
SPEAKER_06: I get what you're saying, Charlie.
31:13
SPEAKER_06: Again, is not, you know, it's not, he's not probably the biggest percentage or whatever, but that's my point.
31:21
SPEAKER_06: But he does not.
31:22
SPEAKER_03: Before you continue, that is my point.
31:24
SPEAKER_03: Is that he's not the biggest influence percentage in that realm of fashion and this and that.
31:29
SPEAKER_03: I didn't use it.
31:31
SPEAKER_06: But he does shift.
31:33
SPEAKER_06: Like, I feel like he does shift the culture a little bit.
31:36
SPEAKER_06: Like, it's almost like that's a lot of it.
31:37
SPEAKER_06: It's it's almost like because you know what?
31:40
SPEAKER_06: You know what it is?
31:40
SPEAKER_06: He has a lot of like let's say copycat, like monkey see monkey do, right?
31:45
SPEAKER_06: Like, like, for example, the beard.
31:47
SPEAKER_06: A lot of people, all right, the beard, but like, like when he was when he grew his beard and whatever, like he he made that popping.
31:52
SPEAKER_06: You feel me?
31:53
SPEAKER_06: You're hearing it from the bigger.
31:55
SPEAKER_02: He made the thick beard popping.
31:56
SPEAKER_06: I I didn't say that, but no, but I do agree with that.
31:59
SPEAKER_06: He's a Drake.
32:00
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, but but a certain way, like with the little fade, the like he made it influences.
32:05
SPEAKER_06: To what he's saying, like he made people that maybe weren't even on that maybe become a little bit more, you know.
32:11
SPEAKER_06: And I've seen it with the with the braids, I've seen I I can't even pick think of names, but there's people that I've seen, I'm like, damn, like I would I never thought, but it's like it's just it's just he's kind of like it's just a dominant.
32:23
SPEAKER_02: There was dudes going bald in the 90s that grew full head of hair because of Michael Jordan.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: This is what happens.
32:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh, like because Michael's bald bald, a bald head cool.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's what happens.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: It's influence.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: Alan Iverson, it's the same thing.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: We'll agree to disagree.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: No, that's fine, but the the the point I was trying to make was specifically towards people like Mike, because again, I think Mike is a very masculine dude, and having to look at the guy that you look at as you're my favorite or the best artist act like a goof, in my opinion.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: Like how like it's it's a little weird.
33:00
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like how did you feel?
33:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's how I felt about it.
33:02
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:03
SPEAKER_06: You know, I um I I completely see it.
33:07
SPEAKER_06: I understand it.
33:08
SPEAKER_06: I think um it's a fair take.
33:13
SPEAKER_06: You know?
33:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I before you you go, Charlie, can you give me an artist of Drake's level, past, present, future, that you could see doing the that same thing?
33:24
SPEAKER_02: Um on Drake's level, no.
33:26
SPEAKER_06: The thing is, I I think I think it's just no, it's different.
33:30
SPEAKER_03: And this Drake has built that type of brand.
33:33
SPEAKER_03: But by the way, this this these funny and goofy music videos, it's been since day one.
33:39
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
33:39
SPEAKER_03: Since day one, not day two, day one, since Thank Me Later videos, he's been goofy and just like doing off, you know, vulnerable.
33:49
SPEAKER_03: It's it's not this is not new.
33:50
SPEAKER_03: And in Way Too Sexy, he was dancing with his chest out with you, not with you.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: I remember the um the video with uh Chris Brown.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: That video, the video with Migos or walk it like a talker.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: He had a wig on with the curly.
34:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, that's like so he's he's done.
34:03
SPEAKER_03: He leans into it.
34:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, people ask because that's that's another thing.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: I see people like, oh my god, look what Kendrick did.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, all of a sudden he wants to be funny.
34:10
SPEAKER_02: Those people are reaching.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like, bro.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: But I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like the like that this shit was cringe.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna pretend like it was.
34:16
SPEAKER_02: The FOMO?
34:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's that was I I that shit was that shit was hard to get through.
34:21
SPEAKER_06: It could have been cringe, but uh, you know, and I agree with Charlie.
34:25
SPEAKER_06: Well, it was that is him though.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: No, yeah.
34:28
SPEAKER_02: He's been that no, that's cool, but like that's why I specified it to you because I know the type of guy you are.
34:34
SPEAKER_03: Now the goth thing was the very well, second or very third to last video.
34:37
SPEAKER_03: So was the whole thing cringe till then?
34:39
SPEAKER_02: Like it wasn't a it was just the goth thing for me.
34:41
SPEAKER_02: That when you got yeah, and I can see why it's it would be funny for a certain demographic, but again, like I'm trying to explain to you the goth thing is very trendy, and that's what Mike was also alluding to is that Drake is very in tune with what's trendy.
34:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
34:53
SPEAKER_02: The goth thing is super trendy.
34:54
SPEAKER_02: So, what did you like about FOMO?
34:56
SPEAKER_02: The his artistic approach to stuff.
34:58
SPEAKER_02: The music was hit or miss, but it was it was cool.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: Like, I like seeing you like the Iron Man's suits, yeah.
35:02
SPEAKER_02: The Drake Drake just being himself, yeah.
35:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, that's cool.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: But again, the the goth thing is trendy, and it was just a little cringe.
35:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 150k on Iron Man suits.
35:10
SPEAKER_06: I like I like how he did at the end that little hotline video set.
35:14
SPEAKER_06: Like, you know, and I feel like it was a sign to something.
35:19
SPEAKER_06: I can't remember, but I remember when I saw it, I was like, hold on, what's he doing with this?
35:23
SPEAKER_06: And then he had that, he had the same red leather jacket jacket slightly different.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: It was slightly different.
35:30
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I feel like you know, I don't know.
35:31
SPEAKER_03: It's just it's just I guess I think it was just like a just a nod on like how long I've been doing this.
35:35
SPEAKER_02: And he's been throughout the whole video, there's been there was he did a he he shot where the God's plan video was.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he he shot a thing there, he shot the the the Highline bling part, he shot um Selling Sexy Songs for You, the same buildings.
35:51
SPEAKER_02: Um there was another one.
35:52
SPEAKER_03: He he it was he he were he was throwing um images of like just throughout his career.
35:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm a longevity over peak guy.
36:00
SPEAKER_02: And Drake has is one of the rare artists that has both.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: He has a really high peak and he has longevity.
36:07
SPEAKER_03: I mean he has he I think he has the longest run.
36:11
SPEAKER_06: I mean, not counting MJ?
36:14
SPEAKER_06: No, I'm in hip hop.
36:15
SPEAKER_03: Okay, hip-hop.
36:16
SPEAKER_02: I yeah, I would I was in terms of what?
36:18
SPEAKER_03: Like the longest, he's been the longest recording artist.
36:22
SPEAKER_02: Jay's been doing this at the 90s.
36:24
unknown: Come on.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: Nah, but Nas at the peak.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: But always at the peak?
36:27
SPEAKER_02: No, but Drake wasn't always at the peak.
36:29
SPEAKER_02: So then, so then if that so then what I'm saying is Nas is still play putting music.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about consistency.
36:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but Nas has a lot of duds.
36:36
SPEAKER_02: Like Nas is releasing a gold album.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: Duds are not, I'm just saying like he's still.
36:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying Drake has been the longest consistent.
36:44
SPEAKER_02: But what do you what are you using that word consistent?
36:46
SPEAKER_02: What is consistent?
36:47
SPEAKER_02: Let's say he's dropping projects probably.
36:49
SPEAKER_02: Like consistently good music?
36:50
SPEAKER_02: No, consistently putting music out.
36:52
SPEAKER_02: No, but there's there's mad raps just.
36:54
SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z has taken years off.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but what do you what do you mean?
36:58
SPEAKER_02: He's all right.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: What's it?
37:02
SPEAKER_02: He's still in the run?
37:03
SPEAKER_02: To me, if the music is relevant and it's good, then yeah.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: No, 10 years old.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
37:07
SPEAKER_02: I just Jay has never been off.
37:10
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is once Jay, when's Jay's last album?
37:12
SPEAKER_02: 444.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't think Drake, uh Jay is um I don't look at him as a rapper anymore.
37:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm just talking about from the 90s.
37:18
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
37:19
SPEAKER_02: His rapper run, I think, has I I agree with that, but it's still not longer than Drake is not longer than the 90s to the 20 uh 2018.
37:27
SPEAKER_03: 444 was what, 2014?
37:28
SPEAKER_02: Whatever that was.
37:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's not longer than the 90s.
37:31
SPEAKER_02: He okay, 96, 97?
37:33
SPEAKER_02: The 90s to the 2019.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, don't say 90s, like it's from 90.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: Let's go 96.
37:37
SPEAKER_02: No, but he what you're talking about his his album or when he started rapping, like what are you talking about?
37:41
SPEAKER_02: His I'm talking about I'm counting from Drake's first album, which is 20.
37:45
SPEAKER_02: Drake's first album, which is 96.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: Okay, to 2014, 2013, uh, 2018, whatever it was.
37:51
SPEAKER_02: All right, so 20.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so it's like a tie.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: Is that pretty much that's what I said?
37:57
SPEAKER_02: That's what I said.
37:58
SPEAKER_02: All I said was Drake is not the only one.
38:00
SPEAKER_02: You say it's a tie.
38:01
SPEAKER_02: You said no.
38:02
SPEAKER_02: No, I you said Drake was the only one.
38:03
SPEAKER_02: I said no.
38:04
SPEAKER_02: And I said he had the longest.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: And I said no.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay, good.
38:07
SPEAKER_02: Like, what's the problem?
38:09
SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
38:09
SPEAKER_06: Now, now I would make the argument of Wayne too, but okay, y'all have this.
38:14
SPEAKER_06: I would say though that his I would say, damn.
38:18
SPEAKER_06: I I know times was different, and obviously Hove has always been looked as Hove, like, you know, for a long time.
38:23
SPEAKER_06: But like I think Drake has his peak has been further apart from his uh it's Piers?
38:34
SPEAKER_06: From Hove?
38:35
SPEAKER_06: From his Piers.
38:36
SPEAKER_02: I would have Like at the time of I can't agree with that because Kendrick and J.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: Cole are right there, bro.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: Are you are you added?
38:44
SPEAKER_02: In terms of what are we debating?
38:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's sales.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: We're talking about peaks.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: Like what what again, how are you define a peak?
38:50
SPEAKER_02: Because nobody nobody ever said that Drake is the consensus best rapper in hip hop.
38:55
SPEAKER_02: No, well, that's the thing.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: If you just go and see yes, if you go and see then then then no, because that's but then Kent Kendrick is right there.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: Uh Jake was strange.
39:04
SPEAKER_02: Right there.
39:05
SPEAKER_06: And that this is where I agree with Charlie.
39:06
SPEAKER_06: No, that's fine.
39:07
SPEAKER_06: There's no way that like Kendrick hasn't shot as many bullets at Drake.
39:11
SPEAKER_06: No, even though it's not.
39:11
SPEAKER_02: But when he we talking about Grammy, is Grammys not success?
39:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:15
SPEAKER_02: So then when you see, when you get to pick what success is, then Drake is already.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: No, it is, it is on status.
39:20
SPEAKER_02: Kendrick has what, 20 Grammys?
39:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: Kendrick has a lot of grammic.
39:23
SPEAKER_02: He probably has the the most.
39:24
SPEAKER_03: So and Drake has what four?
39:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
39:27
SPEAKER_02: Like four, yeah.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: And and look at the so is the Grammys as hard to use.
39:31
SPEAKER_02: Because are we what is success?
39:32
SPEAKER_02: If we're just talking about it.
39:35
SPEAKER_02: Tell me what's the criteria, bro?
39:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that he's far mu above his peers when the when when the culture doesn't say so.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: The only accolade that Drake has that's separating himself from his peers is raw record sales.
39:47
SPEAKER_02: And again, I don't know if he's lapping Kendrick.
39:49
SPEAKER_02: And hits.
39:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, yeah, sure.
39:51
SPEAKER_02: But then what is success?
39:53
SPEAKER_02: If it's just those numbers, then yeah, there's no debate.
39:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not even gonna fool around.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: But I get what he's saying.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: But what is success?
40:00
SPEAKER_02: Because a Kendrick fan is gonna say, well, Kendrick is critically acclaimed, Kendrick is Grammy, yeah, Grammy.
40:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we have to consent.
40:08
SPEAKER_02: Kendrick is winning Pulitzer Prizes.
40:10
SPEAKER_02: What is success?
40:11
SPEAKER_02: We would have to come to a consensus.
40:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, to me, that's why that's why numbers is the only is the only fair metric.
40:17
SPEAKER_03: And that's why that's why the Grammys I'm saying is not.
40:19
SPEAKER_03: No, but the weekend has zero Grammy.
40:21
SPEAKER_03: But here's the butt online, he does have zero grammar.
40:23
SPEAKER_02: But here's the but though.
40:24
SPEAKER_02: That has never been the way that we look at rappers.
40:30
SPEAKER_02: That is how music executive.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: That's how we so how was 50 successful?
40:34
SPEAKER_02: Because he was he hit the the cultural impact.
40:37
SPEAKER_02: No, it's because he's so that too.
40:38
SPEAKER_02: No, bro.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about from the perspective of a fan.
40:42
SPEAKER_02: Fans until this era, and no disrespect, until the Drake era, fans were not invested in record set.
40:48
SPEAKER_02: No, no, uh no, not until Drake 50.
40:50
SPEAKER_02: No, 50 was going to be a good thing.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: 50 lost record sales.
40:54
SPEAKER_02: That was the third, that was the third album.
40:56
SPEAKER_02: Well, that massacre and and and get rich of that trying, those are the things.
40:58
SPEAKER_02: Wait, y'all cared about the record sales?
41:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm talking about the fans.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is he 50 made record sales important.
41:05
SPEAKER_02: No, that's cool, but as a fans, we never said that we like 50 Cent because he sells records.
41:09
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: We don't like Drake because he's not a recording.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: No, no, that's not true.
41:12
SPEAKER_02: Drake, you just tried to use that argument just now.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying he's more successful.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm talking about when we're talking about the culture of hip hop, when niggas is talking about in the barbershop, he's talking about individually.
41:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like nobody says until the Drake.
41:24
SPEAKER_02: Drake is the only, I swear to you, bro, Drake are the only fans that I've ever had an argument with, like a discussion, and their number one thing is I don't care.
41:31
SPEAKER_02: Drake sells more records.
41:32
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, what does that have to do with the craft?
41:34
SPEAKER_02: That's just because that's just because that's a quick metric.
41:36
SPEAKER_02: That's just like I understand the metric.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: It's like stats.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: That's a stat.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: It's like Michael Jordan has six championships, LeBron has four.
41:43
SPEAKER_02: I win.
41:43
SPEAKER_02: Right.
41:43
SPEAKER_02: It's like it's like saying no that that's not how we look at it.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: LeBron's number five?
41:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, five.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but yeah, no.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, actually, he's an op.
41:51
SPEAKER_02: Fuck that again.
41:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, whatever.
41:52
SPEAKER_02: LeBron LeBron has four.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: Four rings.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's four.
41:55
SPEAKER_02: He got four rings.
41:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
41:56
SPEAKER_05: He's he's trying to get five there.
41:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he has four.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: You already count this channel.
42:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but and and again, that's why, again, Kobe.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: When we're talking about art, art is subjective.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: It's the same thing with movies, bro.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, somebody could be like, oh man, oh I I love the uh I I like this Spider-Man movie versus that Spider-Man movie.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: And then I could be like, well, this Spider-Man movie is the highest grossing movie of all time.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: In terms of, let's say, because like you said, numbers, right?
42:18
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: In terms of just record sales, then it's Dennis Eminem.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: And then the conversation's over.
42:24
SPEAKER_06: No, we're talking we're talking about since the pick pick three three three branches to like three filters to f filter through.
42:32
SPEAKER_06: Damn, whatever.
42:33
SPEAKER_06: I think I think it's album.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: Larry Jackson said Drake's catalog is worth more than the 80s, 90s, and from 2000s to 10s.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: Hey, who the fuck is Larry Jackson?
42:43
SPEAKER_02: You don't know who Larry Jackson is?
42:44
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: He was an executive at Apple and he runs um uh Gamma.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: Larry Jackson, he he's him, Larry Jackson.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay, he's but what I'm saying is like he said So he looks at Drake as a commodity.
42:54
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
42:55
SPEAKER_02: That's how he looks at music.
42:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying because I it was it was an interview where people they were talking about people selling their catalogs.
43:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, cool, yeah.
43:01
SPEAKER_02: And he's just saying, like, yo, Drake's catalog is worth more than the whole 90s catalog.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I can believe that.
43:05
SPEAKER_02: The whole 80s catalog.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Because you know how hard it is to sell music that has the F-word in it?
43:09
SPEAKER_02: That's not That's not why Drake.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: So that's why Drake's catalog is.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: Wait, you don't think that?
43:15
SPEAKER_02: You don't think that if I have 10 songs saying the F-word, that's an inflammatory?
43:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm not talking about fuck, by the way.
43:20
SPEAKER_02: When I I know I have I have 10 songs that have that word in it, and you have zero, and we're the same level of artists.
43:25
SPEAKER_02: You don't think it's easier to sell your music?
43:26
SPEAKER_02: How do I put your music?
43:27
SPEAKER_02: How do I put your music that has the F-word in it in a m in a commercial?
43:31
SPEAKER_02: Bro, that's not why the 90s music did not.
43:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that's the only reason, but you don't think that is a reasonable?
43:36
SPEAKER_02: It was maybe 10% of the song that's gonna be amazing.
43:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but now when we're talking about millions of dollars, 10% is a big deal, dawg.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: Alright, bro.
43:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't I don't think that that was the hindrance in why the music wasn't set.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: And if that was the case, if that was the case, the people making the billions of dollars, like the label would have said, yo, stop using that word.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: That's exactly what happened.
43:54
SPEAKER_02: Why you don't think you hear the song today?
43:55
SPEAKER_02: No, it's the word today.
43:57
SPEAKER_02: But that's not okay, cool.
43:58
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is that.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: That they would have done that way earlier if that okay.
44:02
SPEAKER_02: This is the this is the problem, especially when we're discussing hip-hop.
44:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't think you understand hip-hop music was never supposed to be the number one genre in the world.
44:10
SPEAKER_02: You do understand that, right, right.
44:11
SPEAKER_02: That hip hop was a niche fad thing, and the the the beauty of the music industry, or the or the nasty part of it, is that we as black people do not control who's popping.
44:21
SPEAKER_02: Y'all do understand that, right?
44:22
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: That the music executives are white males that they push a button and you're a superstar and you're not.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: We get to trade in who's cool.
44:32
SPEAKER_02: There's a reason why one week 50 Cent was popping, and the next week it was Kanye, and then the week after that it was Drake, and then the week after that, we're gonna go all the way back to Wu-Tang.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: That's how this shit goes.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: We don't control who has the button.
44:43
SPEAKER_02: But that's why the record sales cannot be the only argument when you're discussing these rappers because we all know they would admit it themselves that it's a button.
44:53
SPEAKER_02: It's just hard because besides stats, how else do you do?
44:56
SPEAKER_02: It's all feeling subjective.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: It's all subjective.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: So that's why I do like the stat argument.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: And when you bring the stat argument, you're never gonna hear argument from me unless I mention Eminem.
45:04
SPEAKER_02: And then Drake has a problem there.
45:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:06
SPEAKER_02: Because he's not he's not bigger than Eminem.
45:08
SPEAKER_02: Hey, buddy.
45:09
SPEAKER_02: He's not, I don't care what we're doing.
45:11
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
45:11
SPEAKER_02: We can look, those numbers exist.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: Eminem is going to be making more money.
45:16
SPEAKER_02: Yo, every time you look at the Spotify streaming, every year you select from the 90s to today, Eminem is there.
45:22
SPEAKER_02: He got his banner.
45:23
SPEAKER_02: Eminem has not had a bigger streaming year than Drake.
45:25
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, I didn't say that.
45:27
SPEAKER_02: I said from the 90s, there's years that is rocking numbers come and go, Eminem is there without even having to drop music.
45:34
SPEAKER_02: Nah, he knows he's there.
45:35
SPEAKER_02: So when you talk about raw sales, Eminem is higher than Drake is.
45:40
SPEAKER_02: Raw sales, just all throughout their whole careers.
45:43
SPEAKER_02: So what is the debate?
45:45
SPEAKER_02: We we it was the they the debate the the debate was between Drake and Kendrick.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: We'll we'll we'll settle that.
45:55
SPEAKER_03: I heard new Drake and Don Tolliver.
45:57
SPEAKER_02: I heard it too.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: I did.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: I liked it.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:02
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the the the lane that Drake is staying.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: I've been in the house.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: When I saw him come out at Oliver's show, which was an amazing, that that that shit just looked crazy.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: The the crowd went crazy, just the way they did it, it was fire, right?
46:13
SPEAKER_02: But when I saw that, I'm like, damn.
46:15
SPEAKER_02: I would like to see but it's usually you usually don't see Drake.
46:19
SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't expect it.
46:21
SPEAKER_02: I'll say that.
46:21
SPEAKER_02: Even though I saw him at the show, I didn't think because I thought it was predictable.
46:25
SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, Don Tolliver's having the second best rap year behind Drake.
46:29
SPEAKER_02: Did you did you hear Don Tolliver's a rapper?
46:33
SPEAKER_02: What is he?
46:33
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
46:34
SPEAKER_02: Is Travis Scott a rapper?
46:35
SPEAKER_02: No.
46:35
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, he is.
46:36
SPEAKER_02: Um did you hear uh Black Boys Max take on Don Tolliver?
46:39
SPEAKER_02: No.
46:39
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he said that the reason why Don Tolliver's not out of here is because he's ugly.
46:42
SPEAKER_02: That's my take every time.
46:44
SPEAKER_02: That was my Marco take.
46:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
46:45
SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you, you gotta be cute.
46:47
SPEAKER_03: Drake is cute.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh uh, okay.
46:51
SPEAKER_03: No, but yeah, don't say that.
46:52
SPEAKER_03: You gotta have the Drake said in 5 a.m.
46:55
SPEAKER_03: in Toronto.
46:55
SPEAKER_03: He said I got the verse, the look, and even the hook.
46:58
SPEAKER_03: So like you gotta have the look.
46:59
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
47:00
SPEAKER_03: That's part of the package.
47:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I did like the snippets.
47:04
SPEAKER_02: How did DMX look to you?
47:06
SPEAKER_02: Did he look good?
47:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm asking you.
47:08
SPEAKER_02: Um, it was a different time, but but a lot of women like DMX.
47:12
SPEAKER_02: How does how does Jay Z how does Jay-Z look to you?
47:15
SPEAKER_02: And Jay-Z probably could be as big as bigger.
47:19
SPEAKER_02: Than the bigger than what?
47:20
SPEAKER_02: Bigger than he could have sold more records.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: Got it.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: If he was coming.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: You know.
47:26
SPEAKER_06: But um I think there is, but there is a there is a it's like a man.
47:32
SPEAKER_02: But it's also Drake, um, Jay-Z's Jay-Z wasn't looked at as uh Drake uh Jay-Z is a rapper, raw rapper.
47:39
SPEAKER_02: No, but in his inner He's not looked at as an artist.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: In the 2000s, uh, he was like a little sex icon a little bit.
47:46
SPEAKER_02: Sex icons?
47:47
SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z?
47:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
47:48
SPEAKER_02: No, a little bit, I'm telling you.
47:50
SPEAKER_02: That might be a hot take.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: A little bit is real little.
47:52
SPEAKER_02: That might be a hot take.
47:53
SPEAKER_02: Clip this up.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: And the and the women that was around in that era, they'll tell you.
47:56
SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you, I had to go back and learn this history.
47:58
SPEAKER_02: I I was not born.
47:59
SPEAKER_02: Maybe because women like men who bag who could bag women, maybe because he he was able to bag Beyonce.
48:04
SPEAKER_02: A lot of Jay's A lot of Jay-Z's hit records are like songs about having sex with women.
48:13
SPEAKER_02: Like he has a lot of those songs.
48:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
48:15
SPEAKER_02: Just just just pointing.
48:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, but that's just all right, well, anyway.
48:18
SPEAKER_02: I I how do you look at Kanye?
48:21
SPEAKER_02: In terms of is he's a seximal or not?
48:22
SPEAKER_02: No, not whether he's a seximal is not.
48:24
SPEAKER_02: Is he handsome?
48:25
SPEAKER_02: No, like we were just applying the same metric to these artists.
48:28
SPEAKER_02: That's why I use DMX.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: I think Kanye is not ugly.
48:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, he has good features.
48:33
SPEAKER_02: Marco and Don Tolliver, Jay-Z, DMX are.
48:35
SPEAKER_02: Are what ugly?
48:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:37
SPEAKER_02: But Kanye's not.
48:38
SPEAKER_02: Bro, they they put Jay-Z's face next to a camel every time they get a.
48:41
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I just want to know where Kanye is.
48:43
SPEAKER_02: I don't think DMX was ugly.
48:45
SPEAKER_02: But the thing is, DMX was, again, dark skinners.
48:48
SPEAKER_02: Is in.
48:49
SPEAKER_02: So you're saying women like Kanye?
48:51
SPEAKER_02: Fit.
48:52
SPEAKER_02: At not maybe, not maybe not today.
48:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm not talking about today.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about that's why I use Jay-Z's example.
48:57
SPEAKER_02: Kanye has some of the baddest, I'm not debating that.
49:00
SPEAKER_02: Because money you can have any girl you want.
49:01
SPEAKER_06: The thing is, Kanye had swag and personality.
49:04
SPEAKER_06: You know, it's a little it's a little bit of But we're not talking about that.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: We're talking about looks.
49:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, again, you have to look good enough.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna just leave it at that.
49:11
SPEAKER_02: You have to look good enough.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: Don Tolliver doesn't, Marco doesn't, but Kanye does.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
49:15
unknown: Got it.
49:15
SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm learning.
49:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
49:17
SPEAKER_03: Uh we were talking about somebody else recently who didn't look good enough.
49:20
SPEAKER_02: Um I think that's Aries Spears, for example.
49:24
SPEAKER_02: If Aries looked like I don't think comics have to look attractive.
49:29
SPEAKER_02: I think it's actually better if comics don't look attractive.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: But he looks so unattractive that it's that and also just how he moves.
49:36
SPEAKER_03: Like I we're gonna talk about the Vlash later, but he's still doing great sweatpants with Tim's.
49:40
SPEAKER_03: Like I hear you.
49:41
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
49:42
SPEAKER_02: Like with the anyway, but um you gotta have the look, bro.
49:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
49:46
SPEAKER_02: You gotta look at it.
49:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think there's a lot of people that don't have the look.
49:50
SPEAKER_02: This probably is gonna blow up because I'm here.
49:52
SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of people would agree with that take because there's a lot of artists that I don't like Kanye.
49:59
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't okay.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: Well they're gonna say me.
50:01
SPEAKER_02: But damn, AG, hold on, hold on.
50:03
SPEAKER_02: You gotta move on from the phone mobile.
50:06
SPEAKER_02: Talk to me.
50:07
SPEAKER_06: I know someone in in the head of yours, you you got you know that is important to a degree.
50:13
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely, but I think unless you're just talking about rapping.
50:16
SPEAKER_06: I'm talking about hip-hop, though.
50:17
SPEAKER_06: That's the only thing I give a fuck about is hip-hop.
50:19
SPEAKER_06: So even with hip-hop, it does help.
50:22
SPEAKER_06: Because the thing is, you know what it is with the DMX and stuff?
50:25
SPEAKER_06: Back then, girls was in copping rap albums.
50:28
SPEAKER_06: Okay, that's fair.
50:30
SPEAKER_06: That's been more of a a modern thing.
50:32
SPEAKER_06: You feel me?
50:32
SPEAKER_02: So it's like back then, and even though DMX, maybe looks were less important, and even DMX was if he was like not because he I wouldn't say he was ugly, but he wasn't like a sex symbol, but he was still dark skinned.
50:43
SPEAKER_02: He was fair, bald was in, he was strong, had the dog, he was talking that shit, you know what I'm saying?
50:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, so he had a persona, he rode motorcycles, but he had a PX.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: You're helping my argument.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: But I'm just but I'm I'm piggybacking off his, but yeah, maybe back then wasn't as important.
50:55
SPEAKER_02: But let's say 2005 and up, it was important.
50:59
SPEAKER_02: So Travis Scott Ludacris had to have a certain look.
51:01
SPEAKER_02: What about Travis Scott?
51:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he's he again, but you got Kylie Jenner, you know what I'm saying?
51:07
SPEAKER_02: Like you y'all confused me.
51:09
SPEAKER_02: But I'm I'm saying all I'm saying is So you're saying those are exceptional.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: Travis Scott will be bigger, is what I'm saying.
51:15
SPEAKER_02: His talent is just so good where the the the looks didn't again.
51:19
SPEAKER_02: There's ugly, there's ugly successful people.
51:21
SPEAKER_02: What I'm saying is that you the it's like it's almost like when you're black, you gotta do twice the work to get half the pay, right?
51:27
SPEAKER_02: So when you ugly, you gotta do twice the work to get half the pay.
51:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah twice the work to get half the credit, I think.
51:31
SPEAKER_02: Or recognition.
51:32
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, what about young thug?
51:35
SPEAKER_02: He's what I'm asking.
51:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't know the rules.
51:38
SPEAKER_02: Is he ugly?
51:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm a yeah, like what what what does he need?
51:42
SPEAKER_02: Again, bro, all I'm saying is that because he looks the way he looks, he's not as big as he could be.
51:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm fucking with.
51:49
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying, that's what I'm saying.
51:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, whoever you name, they could be bigger if they look good.
51:53
SPEAKER_02: So Drake could be bigger too.
51:55
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he really could be bigger.
51:58
SPEAKER_06: I think in hip hop, I think there is a uh a level that you could because I don't I don't know if you know if Jay-Z looked like Justin Bieber, if that was if Young Thug looked like ASAP Rocky.
52:10
SPEAKER_02: Nigga, like he would be even bigger because now because Young Thug ain't got no bitches.
52:14
SPEAKER_02: But AceF Rocky.
52:15
SPEAKER_02: Young Thug ain't got no bitches.
52:16
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean he got no bitches?
52:17
SPEAKER_02: You mean a fucking Mariah Science?
52:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
52:19
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, he got okay, he got one.
52:20
SPEAKER_02: But I'm just saying, girls are not over here like, oh, Young Thug, Young Thug, Young Thug.
52:23
SPEAKER_02: He was never a young thug, young thug.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, he was wearing dresses, he was wearing skirts, he was calling people his boyfriend.
52:28
SPEAKER_02: He wasn't out here.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: That nigga was a gangster.
52:30
SPEAKER_02: He didn't really have the and the girl he came into the the game with, the the uh the Charles Carla girl, she was she was really attractive.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: He had a girl that he came into the industry with.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
52:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying that he's not known for the girls who's not checking for young thugs.
52:44
SPEAKER_02: I got you, bro.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: What about the game?
52:46
SPEAKER_02: He's attractive.
52:47
SPEAKER_02: Girls like the game.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, girls like the game.
52:50
SPEAKER_02: He had the love show.
52:51
SPEAKER_02: Girls like the game.
52:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, but so you're telling me the game would be even worse if he was dark skinned.
52:57
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
52:57
SPEAKER_02: If the game looked like 50 Cent, he would not be.
53:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay, let's, yeah.
53:03
SPEAKER_02: Except for two.
53:03
SPEAKER_02: 50 Cent was was kind of ugly.
53:05
SPEAKER_02: But let's say 50 Cent was ugly, but but a sex symbol?
53:08
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people say he's a thing.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: That's a thing.
53:11
SPEAKER_02: Alright, listen, y'all educate me.
53:13
SPEAKER_02: I'll let you know in the comments.
53:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the comp yeah, y'all, y'all, because you guys are the esteemed gas attendants.
53:17
SPEAKER_02: Y'all, y'all know everything.
53:19
SPEAKER_02: Y'all know Charles.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: You know who is ugly?
53:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, who?
53:21
SPEAKER_02: Glasses Malone.
53:22
SPEAKER_02: Why?
53:23
SPEAKER_02: Why is he ugly because he disagrees with you?
53:26
SPEAKER_02: But I mean, damn, am I done with the phone?
53:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: So Don Tolliver, I hope that shit drops.
53:29
SPEAKER_02: Um, he he dropped the song with Yeet.
53:31
SPEAKER_02: I like I like the hook.
53:32
SPEAKER_02: I I don't understand.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't, I don't, he Yeet, he's just not in my but again, these are things that Drake doesn't make for us.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: You know, he makes he made our Don Tolliver song and that that choosing Texas interpolation, that's for us.
53:44
SPEAKER_02: The Yeet, that's for them.
53:45
SPEAKER_03: Like, you know what I'm saying?
53:46
SPEAKER_03: Like we he's like, yo, that's not for y'all.
53:48
SPEAKER_03: You know, the honesty never mind, that's not for the hood.
53:51
SPEAKER_03: That's for Spain and Ibiza.
53:53
SPEAKER_06: Yo, y'all saw real quick, I was gonna mention earlier, but we were talking.
53:56
SPEAKER_06: Y'all saw uh uh his mom have ice mom.
54:01
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
54:01
SPEAKER_06: That was vibe.
54:02
SPEAKER_02: That was cool.
54:02
SPEAKER_06: That was that was vibe.
54:03
SPEAKER_06: Oh, you saw the jewelry?
54:04
SPEAKER_02: You saw that kind of corny.
54:05
SPEAKER_02: You saw the uh of course, of course.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: You saw the jewelry?
54:09
SPEAKER_02: Ice mom.
54:10
SPEAKER_02: That's the name of the pod.
54:11
SPEAKER_02: Huh?
54:12
SPEAKER_02: That's the name of the pod.
54:13
SPEAKER_02: You saw the the you saw the jewelry selection?
54:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it looked actually like a jewelry store.
54:17
SPEAKER_02: Boy, that was insane.
54:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you see, in the words of act, I'm not impressed by rich niggas being rich.
54:22
SPEAKER_02: Like, I like to say what you're doing.
54:24
SPEAKER_02: The thing is, that is beyond.
54:25
SPEAKER_06: That that that look crazy no, bro.
54:27
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no, no, you're right, you're right.
54:29
SPEAKER_06: No, of course, of course.
54:30
SPEAKER_06: But it's just seeing it.
54:31
SPEAKER_03: See it, bro.
54:31
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
54:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, it's different when you see it.
54:33
SPEAKER_02: Not for me.
54:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, I feel you.
54:35
SPEAKER_03: I feel you.
54:36
SPEAKER_03: I I what I'm saying is forget about who's showing it.
54:38
SPEAKER_03: It's just the fact that someone that's like a hundred million dollars in a hundred million dollars.
54:43
SPEAKER_02: That shit look like a jewelry store.
54:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, literally, that's literally what it is.
54:46
SPEAKER_02: It looks like a crazy that's cool, and then I then I realized that.
54:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, what else what else is it supposed to be?
54:51
SPEAKER_02: Ice, ice, ice.
54:53
SPEAKER_02: What else?
54:53
SPEAKER_02: Are we?
54:53
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think his pants was 40 racks.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm not impressed by that.
54:57
SPEAKER_02: It's not about being impressed, bro.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
54:59
SPEAKER_02: If if like if somebody does four black backflips in a row, like no, I would I would be impressed.
55:05
SPEAKER_02: But I you can do that though.
55:06
SPEAKER_02: You can you can reach that.
55:07
SPEAKER_03: I can't right now today, no, no.
55:09
SPEAKER_02: But that's something I can I could look at that and be like, I could do that if I wanted to.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
55:13
SPEAKER_02: I could do that.
55:13
SPEAKER_06: It's just some people put value, certain value, you know, like he just doesn't value that.
55:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what I thought was cool was like I said, weeks ago, what he did with the moms.
55:21
SPEAKER_02: Like he took those single moms and he took care of them, he gave them cars and burkins and shit.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: That came out too.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: That's some player shit.
55:27
SPEAKER_02: I like masculine, I like that.
55:28
SPEAKER_02: To me, it is.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: Providing is always gonna be masculine.
55:30
SPEAKER_02: To me, that's the thing.
55:31
SPEAKER_03: When he's goofy, bro, girls, that's the thing.
55:33
SPEAKER_03: He's showing what I feel like he's showing is that Riz?
55:37
SPEAKER_03: All this, I mean, yeah, he got riz, but all this seriousness is like girls like the goofy shit.
55:42
SPEAKER_03: Girls, I don't care about that.
55:44
SPEAKER_03: And he's just corn that's Vigo.
55:46
SPEAKER_02: And and but true, and that's fair, but in his mind, he's like, Um, that's you're not who I'm trying to appease.
55:52
SPEAKER_02: Beautiful, but unfortunately, I have to see it too.
55:55
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm gonna tell the truth when I see it.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: And that's fine.
55:57
SPEAKER_02: And again, I never discourage how to do it.
55:59
SPEAKER_02: And he's gonna say you grew up in the friend zone.
56:00
SPEAKER_02: And that's fair.
56:01
SPEAKER_02: He can have that assessment of me.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: But I I also have kids, and I'm with you know, the mother of them.
56:06
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know what Drake is doing.
56:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, does Does he have a home?
56:11
SPEAKER_02: He has a house?
56:12
SPEAKER_02: He definitely has a home.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: No, no, he has a house.
56:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he has a home.
56:15
SPEAKER_02: He has a mom.
56:15
SPEAKER_02: So his mom got a mom can make my house a home.
56:17
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
56:18
SPEAKER_02: No, she cannot.
56:19
SPEAKER_02: No, she cannot.
56:19
SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
56:20
SPEAKER_02: Don't listen to him.
56:21
SPEAKER_02: What do you think about earrings?
56:22
SPEAKER_02: What, me?
56:23
SPEAKER_02: I think it's feminine.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't think about earrings.
56:25
SPEAKER_02: Think it's feminine?
56:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't do it, but I had an earring.
56:28
SPEAKER_02: Would you, would you?
56:30
SPEAKER_02: No, no, you can't.
56:31
SPEAKER_02: We got more.
56:31
SPEAKER_02: No, we got more.
56:32
SPEAKER_02: We got more to get.
56:33
SPEAKER_02: Let's get to your man glasses, Malone.
56:34
SPEAKER_02: This is gonna be a man.
56:35
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna be quick anyway.
56:36
SPEAKER_02: Nah, shout out Iceman, man.
56:37
SPEAKER_02: West Coast niggas, mommy.
56:38
SPEAKER_02: And Ice Mom.
56:39
SPEAKER_06: And Ice Mom.
56:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: Right.
56:41
SPEAKER_02: All right, so glasses Malone.
56:43
SPEAKER_02: And Ice Pice.
56:43
SPEAKER_02: Let me stop.
56:44
SPEAKER_02: No, yes.
56:45
SPEAKER_04: You missed Ice Spice.
56:46
SPEAKER_02: And again.
56:47
SPEAKER_02: And again, shout out Ice Spice because uh uh she's one of the few women that spurned Drake, and Drake had to make a fucking clone.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: That girl.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: What's her name?
56:55
SPEAKER_02: The one he be running around with the big tits.
56:57
SPEAKER_02: We we don't even care about her name.
56:58
SPEAKER_02: What's her name?
56:58
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: You know the girl.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh, his girls got big tits, bro.
57:01
SPEAKER_02: You said that girl's name, bro.
57:02
SPEAKER_02: The fake ice stunning series.
57:04
SPEAKER_02: The fake ice spice.
57:05
SPEAKER_02: She had to go grab that.
57:06
SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't know.
57:07
SPEAKER_02: What?
57:08
SPEAKER_02: That shit's a serious.
57:09
SPEAKER_02: No, she's bad.
57:10
SPEAKER_02: No, but like.
57:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's a bad thing.
57:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Drake be putting these girls on the map.
57:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't be nothing that's player.
57:17
SPEAKER_02: I found that Goth Chick's Instagram.
57:19
SPEAKER_02: You did?
57:20
SPEAKER_02: She got three M's.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's and I'm I promise you, she probably had less than an M.
57:24
SPEAKER_02: She had probably had 150.
57:26
SPEAKER_02: 150k before Drake.
57:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that shit has played her.
57:28
SPEAKER_02: I like that.
57:29
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, Black back to Glasses Malone.
57:30
SPEAKER_02: So I'm sure you guys are familiar with the song Um Too Hard for Radio, right?
57:34
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: It was Too Hard for the Radio.
57:36
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
57:36
SPEAKER_02: Thank you, our uh Resident Drake expert.
57:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, that song, you know, when it came out, when it dropped on the album, there's a lot of controversy behind it, but it kind of died down.
57:45
SPEAKER_02: Glasses went on a podcast.
57:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, he was phoned in and he was talking to the producer of a P-Lo, I believe his name is, and he was basically like, Why would you, as a West Coast dude, produce a record that is attacking your own coast?
57:59
SPEAKER_02: Because on that song, Drake alludes to Kendrick and um Muster.
58:06
SPEAKER_02: So there was a big kind of yelling back and forth, and the guy was pretty much like, I'm from the Bay.
58:11
SPEAKER_02: That sound I'm I'm putting it on for my people because that sound is gonna be bigger.
58:15
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, it's Drake is the biggest artist in the world uh in hip-hop.
58:18
SPEAKER_02: And then I he did this debate.
58:21
SPEAKER_02: And Drake is fond of the bay.
58:23
SPEAKER_02: So that was like the whole back and forth.
58:25
SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to see how you guys felt about it.
58:26
SPEAKER_02: It's like this Drake beef is like never-ending.
58:29
SPEAKER_02: The fallout from it, and that's where the beef did great for these individual people, but it's like culturally now we all have to pick a side, and it's it's kind of corny.
58:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like I don't like that.
58:39
SPEAKER_02: It's whack.
58:40
SPEAKER_02: And I think I think ever since Iceman, he's been trying to like I'm no butt.
58:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was definitely about to lie.
58:47
SPEAKER_02: But um, I mean, it's it I I hate that they do that to certain producers, bro, because it's like number one, this is not we're not talking about Timberland or Pharrell.
58:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, we're talking who, like, you know, respectfully, who is that producer?
58:59
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
59:00
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
59:00
SPEAKER_02: And that's the guy's point.
59:01
SPEAKER_02: And that's what I'm saying, bro.
59:02
SPEAKER_02: If if if you're a producer and Drake is dissing uh a New York artist that he has beef for.
59:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm not doing that.
59:08
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you are, bro.
59:09
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
59:10
SPEAKER_02: Like, come on, bro.
59:10
SPEAKER_02: Let's fuck with the city, bro.
59:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
59:13
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but my point.
59:15
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
59:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, I have like I'm I'm gonna say no to Drake.
59:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, bro, I'm trying, I've been grinding for a decade.
59:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, trying to get my my beats out.
59:22
SPEAKER_02: What do you want?
59:24
SPEAKER_02: See?
59:24
SPEAKER_02: Nah, I'm not going that far.
59:26
SPEAKER_02: And to be honest, look, I mean, I don't know, I don't know what the politics is, but uh I was really about to say ass cheek.
59:34
SPEAKER_02: That's just that's his name.
59:35
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to Joey back.
59:36
SPEAKER_02: Azy, Azy Cheek, cheeky, whatever his name is.
59:39
SPEAKER_02: Ass cheek, nigga.
59:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, Kendrick didn't clear the song on his album.
59:43
SPEAKER_02: He was expected to be on it.
59:44
SPEAKER_02: Supposedly he was dissing, whatever.
59:46
SPEAKER_02: Kendrick didn't clear the song.
59:47
SPEAKER_02: My point is is that, and then they there's been a lot of backlash about the artists that were on GNX and how what they've getting paid, or whatever the case is, the splits, blah, blah.
59:54
SPEAKER_02: Then you look at Drake, he's giving 500,000 to um whatever her name, Molly Santana, when she asked for nothing.
59:59
SPEAKER_02: So I'm just saying, like, if you're looking at how Drake and then uh what's her name?
1:00:03
SPEAKER_02: Um Quavo, which is an interview, he was saying, yo, Drake with the splits, he's always held it down, he's always never charged, like always this, always that.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_02: So when you look at and you and now you look at the producer, he's like, yo, it's kind of better to have Drake as a business partner than be loyal to a coach that be without Kendrick is kind of dead.
1:00:20
SPEAKER_03: And Kendrick may not give me the look or the consistency.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_03: He may okay, he may give me one song, and but Drake might get I might get four slaps out of that.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_03: Why you don't agree, bro?
1:00:29
SPEAKER_02: Um, because this this is what Drake fans do all the time.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_02: They don't talk about the the the other side of what Drake does sometimes, where you got people like Party Next Door, The Weeknd, who Party Next Door could have probably been as big as the weekend if he was not on OVO.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_02: Weekend pretty much was like, I'm not signing to OVO because I see what you do there with your creatives, and that's why him and Drake have an issue.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_02: Let's not pretend like Drake is the the guy that is always fair and upfront.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_02: And then the song, a lot of the songs that he does, like there's the song with Blackboy JB, the song with Little Baby, he takes all that song.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_02: But even they don't get any of that.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_02: Even it's they get the look, but they don't get the publishing, they don't get the money.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_02: I I think I'm I'm almost 99% sure they don't because Drake is also not independent.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_02: Drake has three labels.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but don't but you're trying to pretend like it is though.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, block that 2016, I'm talking about maybe since his new deal because 2016 he's what new deal 2016 when he twenty 2021 he signed that$500 million.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_02: Drake is still beholden to cash money, no money, J Prince, that's not true, and Universal.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: That's not true.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: Show me where it's not, and then we're obviously not on pop.
1:01:40
SPEAKER_02: He from 2018 to now he owns his masters.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_02: I have not seen that reported anymore.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_02: All right, well that is a Drake fan fan fiction.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_02: And I will be if you can produce it to me, I'll walk it back and I'll be completely wrong.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_02: But from what I understand about Drake's dealings, he is signed to like three to four different when you look at Apple Music, that those labels are not on his album.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but Apple Music is not the the what I'm saying is if you go back to if you go back to take care, you'll see cash money, young money, but now you don't feel like just because I negotiated, hey, you guys can't have your name on my paper.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_02: No, now you see universal and OVO.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's fine.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_02: But but again, what I'm saying is I just need the proof.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_02: All right, I I can't give you the proof right now.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_02: No, of course not.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_02: We're on a fucking pocket.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_02: But I'm just saying, like But the other stuff I'm talking about is 100% true.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_02: But why would they have to get all right?
1:02:24
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk about party and um the difference between party's career and the weekend's career.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_02: I I number one, I don't think party is as talented as the weekend's care.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_02: I've spoken like a true Drake fan.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_02: How would how would you know if he's stuck making parts for the game?
1:02:36
SPEAKER_02: No, he's made he's made mad albums without Drake.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_02: No, but you don't think you don't think Drake takes the best of their work?
1:02:43
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_02: What happened to Division?
1:02:45
SPEAKER_02: Division is a great uh uh uh because they're they're kind of a is there a group of two.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: I love Division, though.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you do, but do the masses know how talented they are?
1:02:55
SPEAKER_02: Bro, all I'm saying is So the same producer that should hate Division and Party Next Door are not complaining.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_02: Because they're getting compensated.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about their level of stardom.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_02: That's what we're just gonna do.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_02: I think the weekend is is on is just on another level.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_02: He was he was adding.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_02: If Drake touched him or not, he was adding it.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_02: This is my opinion.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_02: If he would have signed to OVO like Drake wanted to, he would be party next door.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_02: I I that's my opinion.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_06: I disagree, especially since like he's more like coming with Drake.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then Drake tried to sign him.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_02: Why would he do that?
1:03:22
SPEAKER_02: Nah, no, but like it's different.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_02: Like he was following his from his idols, Drake and Jay.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a very good strategy of how, hey, I'm gonna take all the good quality shit y'all got going on and make sure it's in my pocket.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_02: Is that what Jay did?
1:03:35
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_02: You're like, I'm not what y'all gotta understand is I'm not a stan.
1:03:40
SPEAKER_02: I do act like one and I say I am, but I'm very objective when I come to how these people deal.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, I know how the the industry works to an extent.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_02: It's the reason why I become president of Def Jam so I can see, oh, this nigga's working on a very cool album.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_02: Nah, that's not coming out.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm yeah, fuck that.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna take the best parts of it.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Kanye is a great producer.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: He's only gonna produce for me right now.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_02: This is it's regular shit.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_02: And the weekend saw it, and he was like, nah, I'm gonna bet on myself.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't think Drake moves like that.
1:04:05
SPEAKER_02: I know he knows.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_06: You know somebody tried to do that to all the focus, right?
1:04:08
SPEAKER_06: And he was just like, fuck you.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because he knows, yeah.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, Drake has could Drake could have Drake has given a lot of music to a lot of people.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_02: When you, for example, DJ Khaled, Chris Brown, a lot of these people, when you talk to them, they tell you, yo, Drake sent me that off the love.
1:04:23
SPEAKER_02: How big is Chris Brown?
1:04:24
SPEAKER_02: How I'm talking about the middle tier niggas that are are are one step away from being households.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_02: Okay, Versace.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's Drake.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_02: Didn't charge it.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because Drake could not do that to the Migos.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_02: They were already get that was already happening to them by Gucci Man.
1:04:38
SPEAKER_02: You think Drake could not get the splits for Versace?
1:04:41
SPEAKER_02: No, because Gucci Man was already in them niggas' pockets.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm trying to explain to you.
1:04:44
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I know I agree with you, but I'm just saying that if Drake would have pulled that verse, Gucci Man would have budged.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know if that's true.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_02: Or if he did it, he would have looked back and be like, God, that would have happened.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_02: But he was not gonna who the fuck is Drake to Gucci Man?
1:04:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about 2014.
1:04:58
SPEAKER_02: On a street level.
1:04:59
SPEAKER_02: Gucci Man's not a regular guy.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I guess, yeah.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_02: Look at what happened with Mapuche Heisty.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_02: We all see how this is going.
1:05:05
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, um, not to dig uh digress, but I really do think that the fallout from this Drake beef is um it was not a positive thing for hip hop, man.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_02: The numbers were good, everybody was entertained, the podcast world was great, the streaming world is great.
1:05:19
SPEAKER_02: Drake and Kendrick both did that thing where they allow people to use their music for some time.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_02: I I heard that a lot of that is getting reversed now, by the way, on both sides.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_02: You mean white labeling?
1:05:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what that means.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_02: You can like when when you could use the songs on any platform and they won't strike it.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they both did it.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_02: They were only doing it for during the beef, you talking about?
1:05:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, during the beef.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_02: They were only doing it for Kendrick.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: That's part of Drake's lawsuit.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean they were only doing it for Kendrick?
1:05:40
SPEAKER_02: That's like Drake said in the song, you blew up when you my when my white label had the white label shit for you.
1:05:45
SPEAKER_02: Like they were also you couldn't use Drake's music.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_02: When when they were using Family Matters and all that to make reviews, they were striking it.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: But when they were doing not like us.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_02: So Drake doesn't have any control of that.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: Which one is it?
1:05:57
SPEAKER_02: Bro.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_02: No, tell me, educate me.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_02: Drake is Still signed to Universal.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_02: Cool.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_02: So he has a boss.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_02: So he can't make the decision on whether or not his music is how much publishing he takes.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_02: Somebody makes that decision for him.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_02: Well, if we can fight for it.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but we're talking about another artist.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's how this works.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_02: Again, I'm listening from the horse's mouth.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_02: And that's the problem.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_02: No, the artists are saying Drake gave me all the splits.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the artists don't.
1:06:25
SPEAKER_02: The artists are fucking retarded, is what I'm trying to explain to you.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_02: They don't Drake don't make those decisions.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_02: He cannot.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_02: So you think Universal said it?
1:06:32
SPEAKER_02: Let me just give Quavo all the.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because maybe if you go back and quit into Quavo's um who he's who he's signed to, maybe there's a mutual exclusive reason for that.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_02: Maybe okay, but why can't maybe be the other thing?
1:06:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, absolutely.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_02: I would just need proof for that.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_02: And but why do I need proof?
1:06:48
SPEAKER_02: I need proof of your shit then.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_02: When did you just now said it, finally?
1:06:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, with it, bro.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, um back to the producer though.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_02: If it's bro, uh, all this shit, bro.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_02: And again, y'all not even all these fans and all these West Coasters, y'all not loyal, bro.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_02: Like, if I if I deny the song for Drake, what y'all gonna do for me?
1:07:06
SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
1:07:06
SPEAKER_02: Just yo.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_02: You would never hear from me again.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_02: Good job.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, you're not so fuck y'all.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's back and rice.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_02: Um, get your money, man.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_02: I'll Pillow.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_02: It was a great beat.
1:07:14
SPEAKER_02: The song was okay.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, get your money, bro.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_02: And I hope he works for Drake again.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_02: I hope he gets he gets more uh smoke.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_02: It's a very Drake heavy podcast today.
1:07:23
SPEAKER_02: Let's go back to New York though.
1:07:25
SPEAKER_02: Um, we got uh Papoose, Remy Ma, and what's that rapper's name?
1:07:29
SPEAKER_02: The white dude that she's running around with.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh come on, Charlie.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_02: I think he's Trills.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_02: It's something, it's something that doesn't sound.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_02: I thought it was Peasy or some shit like that.
1:07:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Millies.
1:07:37
SPEAKER_02: Millies, yeah, peasy, Millie, Trills.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_02: We kind of got it.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_02: We're in the ballpark.
1:07:43
SPEAKER_02: Um, so Papoose dropped a scathing, scorching disc record called Jezebel.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_02: Very slow tempo.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_02: It was very talking to you.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_02: He was letting, he actually let a the music video was a lot of AI slop, but he did finally drop the the nuke, which was I wrote Remy Ma's records, which in hip hop used to be a death sentence.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_02: Shout out Drake.
1:08:06
SPEAKER_02: But um she's gonna obviously feel about that because Remy Ma's a rapper rapper.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_02: But uh Charlie, give us the you know, give me, give us what's going on, man.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, in terms of I really just wanted to talk about her new man.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_02: But in terms of the record, though, um, he did he scathing as you said, real laid back, just like matter of fact.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_02: Um he he said a lot of things that he kind of said before or alluded to, but it was never in this forum.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_02: It was more direct, yeah.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was more direct.
1:08:34
SPEAKER_02: Um it's just it's just interesting how like the internet just would just like totally ignore.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_02: Bro, you you remember that when we talk when we spoke about the Desmond Scott guy who his girl broke up with him, he's a chef, and they used to do videos, and we were like, oh, look at how he looks in the videos, and I don't know.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_02: Remember, they he bro, he's nowhere near as famous as Remy and them, and they killed him, right?
1:08:54
SPEAKER_02: For for ruining his marriage and this and yep.
1:08:58
SPEAKER_02: Papuosa said multiple times, like, she's she's been stepped out on me, she's been cheated on me.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_02: And niggas never leave, bro.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_02: And I stayed, and whatever the case is, or I tried, whatever the case is.
1:09:09
SPEAKER_02: The long story short, she did it first.
1:09:11
SPEAKER_02: And no one kills Remy for it.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_02: No, no one says you ruined your marriage.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_02: He rode for you for eight years while you were in jail.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_02: This is by the double standards.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_02: He Mike, do you know like the history of um Remy Ma and Papoose?
1:09:22
SPEAKER_06: No, I didn't know.
1:09:23
SPEAKER_02: So Remy Ma gets locked up, like abandons her family and her children for shooting for shooting her friend over like what$50?
1:09:33
SPEAKER_02: So no, what was a man?
1:09:34
SPEAKER_02: A thousand dollars.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was a thousand dollars.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_06: Damn.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_02: The whole time she's in jail, according to Papoose and Remy, he stayed down.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_02: He he didn't leave her, he supported her with me.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_02: He married her in jail, he married her.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_06: Nah.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_02: They came out, they had the love and hip-hop, black, they were the face of black love and hip-hop urban culture.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: There were goals, they were they were couples' goals.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_02: Remy actually came out of um, this is my personal opinion.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_02: She came out of jail very bucksome, very thick.
1:10:03
SPEAKER_02: She became like a sex symbol.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: Before she went in there, she was not, nobody looked at her, like she was a great rapper, but nobody looked at her like, oh my, I'm attracted to Remy.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_02: Is she bad?
1:10:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when she came out though, or whatever just feeding her in jail, Shorty was like the two bunk beds.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_02: With our tax money, too.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: She was going crazy.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, there was on Love and Hip Hop that was killing it.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, they were like the second most popular couple on there.
1:10:24
SPEAKER_02: And she was like, that's cool, but I want to be a bad bitch.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_02: And she got with this dude that was like a papoose clone.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_02: He was younger, he was less uh, but you you skip so she starts a rap battle league.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I missed the whole thing.
1:10:38
SPEAKER_02: She basically starts a league and then gets with her employee.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_02: Like a dude that it only gets paid when she books him for things.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_02: And but and it's funny because she's like a pat, he's like a Walmart version of Papu's, but he looks like him.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it's very it's very bad.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_06: Or or how we say uh like that from Temu.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there you go.
1:10:57
SPEAKER_02: Temu, Temu.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_02: So then she gets exposed.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_02: That that affair gets exposed.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_02: Because it was under wraps, it was under wraps.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_02: So she's standing there as the owner.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_02: The guy she's sleeping with and cheating with is battling another guy.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, hey, you're fucking the ball.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_02: That guy in front of Remy says, in so many words, you're cheating on Pat.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_02: And you fucking this guy.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, you could just fuck me.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_02: Because I got more money, whatever the case is.
1:11:22
SPEAKER_02: We're all battle rap.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_02: And now I will, I would, I would credit Remy.
1:11:25
SPEAKER_02: Remy, I don't, I haven't seen a poker face like that.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she didn't flint.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_02: Her poker face?
1:11:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she didn't flint.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_02: She was still smiling.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_02: Like she let that shit roll off her back.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_02: It was so good that we thought it was just battle bars.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_02: Literally.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_02: We didn't really believe it until you know later it came out.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_02: So how long ago was that?
1:11:40
SPEAKER_02: A year or two?
1:11:40
SPEAKER_02: No, like maybe two years.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_02: It was like maybe three years ago.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_02: They had like a Christmas thing.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_02: Like he posted at least two years ago.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: So so people knew.
1:11:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was a like an open secret.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, after after the battle rapper did it, people started digging, and then it slowly came out, like, oh, that was real.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_02: You know, um so long story short, that's what happened.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_02: And then Papoose got with another box, with another woman.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_02: He got with the speed.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_02: Not another woman.
1:12:03
SPEAKER_02: He got with the Muhammad Ali of boxing.
1:12:06
SPEAKER_02: Women.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_02: She is the greatest of all time woman boxer.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_02: She will beat up Remy Ma with her left hand.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_02: Literally.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, like, and they are they go at it all the time on the name?
1:12:17
SPEAKER_02: Clarissa Shields.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_02: She's a phenom.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_02: She is the boxer.
1:12:22
SPEAKER_02: She's also corny.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_02: Let me give you an example.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_02: Layla Ali, who is Muhammad Ali's daughter, is ducking smoke from this woman.
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: Really?
1:12:31
SPEAKER_02: She wants to fight you.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_02: Like real life.
1:12:32
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, yo, I'm not sure.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_02: Layla's good.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_02: I heard she's.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but she's she's a little older now.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_02: And she's like, nah, I'm not gonna fight you.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, and her last fight from a few months ago, she beat the brakes off.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she she she is, she's that.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's that.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, um, so long story short, that's what happened.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_02: So they've been having little spats back and forth, especially the two women.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, the divorce.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_02: Pap.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_02: True.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_02: Pap fought the guy.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_02: He punched him in the face, and he said, um accounts that he knocked him out.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_02: Yes, people say he knocked him out.
1:13:01
SPEAKER_02: Like it wasn't a fight, he just hit him and that was it.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_02: But which I always I always respected Pat for his reason.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_02: He said, I ain't knocked you out because you fucked up.
1:13:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm knocked you out because you shook my hand.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:13:11
SPEAKER_02: And it's like we were not close, but you know, cordial.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're cordial.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'll see you around business, whatever.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_02: You're my girl's um fucking employee, nigga.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_02: So um, and you're probably getting paid off of money that's could come tomorrow house, whatever.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, yeah, but anyway, long story short, now the video I sent you earlier is now because she now she's not with the guy she cheated with.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_02: They broke up, they they're done.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_02: They're done.
1:13:33
SPEAKER_02: So crazy.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_02: So now she's with this guy.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_02: The one you showed me.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_02: Millie's.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_02: Millie's.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_02: Shout out, Millie.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_02: I never heard of him, never seen him.
1:13:43
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where he came from.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_02: I've seen that nigga before.
1:13:45
SPEAKER_02: I just don't know where.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: That's the problem.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: I've seen that nigga before.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_02: T-Mu, machine.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_06: Now I know why Godfrey put boo corny.
1:13:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and she looks strung out.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_02: She looks dehydrated to say the least.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_02: And it looks performative.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's nasty.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't, it doesn't look like nobody there looks like they're in love.
1:14:03
SPEAKER_02: This is like when um Meg Destallion was kissing on G Eazy.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_02: It looks performative.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_02: But my thing is like, damn, bro, this is why you can't underestimate people, right?
1:14:13
SPEAKER_02: So you think she was on drugs?
1:14:15
SPEAKER_02: No, but she looked like she was on drugs.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:14:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna put that on her because she says she uh she struggles with uh addiction and drugs and alcohol in her family, so she would never touch it, but she does look fiend out.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_02: We both look like a trailer trailer park up.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, everything is nasty.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_02: They should have shot that shit in a trailer park.
1:14:31
SPEAKER_02: That's that should look like yeah, you kill Mike with that one.
1:14:34
SPEAKER_02: But um now the internet's killing her.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_02: Finally, it looks bad, but they're still not killing her for ruining her marriage.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_02: No, or leaving.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_02: They're letting her walk on now.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: Bro, the guy who stayed with you for eight anyway.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_02: So they're killing her for this guy that she's with, and um, it just looks bad.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Remy Ma is the Clarissa still wants to fight her, she's dug in the smoke.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, she just said that they're gonna shoot her.
1:14:57
SPEAKER_02: They said they're gonna jump her and shoot her.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_02: Like Remy Ma just straight up said, Yeah, I'm not gonna fight.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_02: And I believe that.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_06: That's crazy.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_06: That is horrible.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:15:04
SPEAKER_06: Um, how y'all feel about I mean, I guess like respect, you know, papo's, but also like why you stayed, but also this is why niggas should leave.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_02: You're asking the wrong person.
1:15:19
SPEAKER_02: Wrong who?
1:15:20
SPEAKER_02: Me.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, yeah.
1:15:21
SPEAKER_02: You know, he's gonna tell you.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_06: Number one.
1:15:24
SPEAKER_06: Let me hear this shit.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_06: Hold on.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_06: Jezebel.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_06: Let me put my my my my I can hear bullshit cap on.
1:15:30
SPEAKER_06: Hold on, let me all right.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_06: Real quick, before I begin, do you believe in vows?
1:15:35
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:15:36
SPEAKER_02: Do you believe when you say the vows, do you mean them?
1:15:40
SPEAKER_06: Yes, but you know, what do you mean by butt?
1:15:47
SPEAKER_03: What does that mean?
1:15:48
SPEAKER_02: Do you mean them or not?
1:15:49
SPEAKER_02: I have a caveat.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_02: So uh I I'm sure you do.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure both of y'all do.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_02: But my my thing is like, yo, I was with you before you went to the channel.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_06: Nothing in my vow, say, I'ma stay with you even after you cheat them.
1:15:59
SPEAKER_06: It does say that, actually.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_06: Not in my vibe.
1:16:02
SPEAKER_02: It ain't gonna be a vibe.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_02: It says it says I would never leave you, pretty much.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but not literally, like for anything.
1:16:07
SPEAKER_06: Well, it's saying, yeah, for sickness and this, and I always say care.
1:16:10
SPEAKER_06: You know, better or worse.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_06: I guess very sick.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_06: When she cheats, that's the worst part.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_06: I don't I don't know about all that.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_02: I don't know about all that.
1:16:17
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying I'll stay, okay?
1:16:18
SPEAKER_02: You have already said you would stay.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_03: No, I I'm not saying I would stay, but what I'm saying is that he was with her before jail.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_02: He was in love with her.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:16:27
SPEAKER_02: He's still with her eight years.
1:16:29
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:16:29
SPEAKER_02: They have three, maybe four kids together.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_02: And I think one of the kids were like This is all before the cheating.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:16:35
SPEAKER_02: I think one of the kids is really hard to conceive.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: Like I think it was like a miracle, baby.
1:16:39
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so they they have a lot of deep history, um business together, correct.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_02: Business together, a strong bond, whatever the case is.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_02: She steps out, right?
1:16:50
SPEAKER_06: Not this rap guy.
1:16:52
SPEAKER_06: Or or is it this is good with Pat Poose.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_06: No, I know, but it was it with that employer.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_02: That we know that we know of.
1:17:00
SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay, okay.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_06: And he stayed after that.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_06: Like that's the one that we're counting as he stayed after.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_02: Now, but I think again, this is goes back to the man shit.
1:17:09
SPEAKER_02: I think he stayed because no one knew.
1:17:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_02: Once it came out, it's a it's a it's the embarrassment.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_02: It's a billion niggas on the planet right now that they the girl was going and she went and they stayed because it wasn't it wasn't news.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_02: Yes, that's well that that that is a thing.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_06: It's definitely uh less of a, you know, there's actually a bachelor that's what I said.
1:17:29
SPEAKER_06: It says, uh, like what bothers is not the locuerno, is the the talk, you know, is the people talking to me.
1:17:36
SPEAKER_06: To men.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_06: That's what I said.
1:17:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, to men.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_02: That's what I said in the a few positive, not a few, but many positive.
1:17:41
SPEAKER_02: I said women get to be embarrassed.
1:17:43
SPEAKER_02: They get to be embarrassed and then cheered on for going through that and choosing love and choosing their marriage.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and this and that.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_02: A nigga a nigga ain't supposed to.
1:17:54
SPEAKER_02: Did we speak about Joey Battle's or show is a different one?
1:17:56
SPEAKER_02: On the spa?
1:17:57
SPEAKER_02: We spoke about Joey Baddass on the spa with his girl and she did the get the fuck you cake thing?
1:18:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:18:01
SPEAKER_02: You know they're like back.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_02: He said they were gonna be back.
1:18:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and they're back.
1:18:04
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I did.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_02: It's all performative.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_02: But um, the thing about niggas though, niggas don't go back though.
1:18:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't see that.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean don't go back?
1:18:13
SPEAKER_02: When they leave, they usually leave for good.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_02: If they leave, yes.
1:18:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've never really seen men go back.
1:18:19
SPEAKER_02: Because men, and again, some men are emotional.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, of course, yeah.
1:18:23
SPEAKER_02: But for the most part, it's a calculated decision.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_02: It's hard for us to leave.
1:18:27
SPEAKER_02: Again, usually it's gonna cost us money to leave.
1:18:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it costs us our family.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, now we gotta do visitation.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_02: Our kid is asking us questions.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_02: Because again, when the man leaves, he has to actually leave.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_02: Literally leave.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_02: So the kid's asking, yeah.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_02: The kid's not asking mom why she's asking you, why are you leaving?
1:18:42
SPEAKER_02: Why'd you leave me, dad?
1:18:44
SPEAKER_02: Why are you leaving mom?
1:18:45
SPEAKER_03: Why are you leaving us?
1:18:46
SPEAKER_02: Well, because your mother's a whore, son.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_03: They can't say that, right?
1:18:49
SPEAKER_03: So it just has to be, well, you know, sometimes adults, the blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, all the kids sees is you walking out.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_03: Walking out, yeah.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_03: So it's always on the man's.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_02: We get the shit under the stick for a lot of for a lot of situations, you know, which is why I tell people, like, oh, like, this is why it takes long for us to propose and to like make commitments and this and that, because whether I'm wrong or whether you're wrong, I'm wrong.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_02: So you do understand double standards.
1:19:13
SPEAKER_06: There you go.
1:19:15
SPEAKER_06: That's the button for me.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_02: Hey, you finally happy feet.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_02: And and honestly, double standards is actually what's saving Remy Ma from the total disaster of what her life should be after stepping out, leaving her her family.
1:19:30
SPEAKER_02: But because she's a woman, it's you go girl.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_02: A la Jada Pickett.
1:19:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_02: Entanglement.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_02: It's by yeah.
1:19:37
SPEAKER_02: She got that shit off though.
1:19:38
SPEAKER_02: Yo, she entanglement.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_02: And people don't understand.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_02: Jada Pickett Smith, as much shit we give um Will Smith for, she was like one of the most attractive women in the world at one point.
1:19:49
SPEAKER_02: Like she was a dime piece.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was like her Neil On.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was and because she had the eyes, bro.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_02: What color are her eyes?
1:19:58
SPEAKER_02: They're like gray or something.
1:20:00
SPEAKER_02: That's before that.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_02: See, I prefer that.
1:20:02
SPEAKER_02: I prefer a Jada body than these ice spices.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_02: That's you.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_02: Give me ice spice.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_02: Give me give me saying in between.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_02: The balance.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_02: You know, my my one and two is Lori and um Lotto.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't see it with Lotto.
1:20:20
SPEAKER_02: Come on, son.
1:20:21
SPEAKER_02: No, she's objectively attractive.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm just not.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_02: She's also under fire right now.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_02: For what?
1:20:28
SPEAKER_02: Because she went to her grandparents' farm and they were doing like country accents, her and her sister.
1:20:33
SPEAKER_02: And they're just like, She's cold switching.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_02: It was it was it was meant to be funny.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_02: What's wrong with cold switching?
1:20:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't think.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_02: When y'all get around y'all Dominican people, y'all cold switch.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, not you, because you know.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh, sorry.
1:20:44
SPEAKER_02: When you go back to the the body, oh you go back to the king.
1:20:47
SPEAKER_02: The body.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_02: I hit him with a kill okay.
1:20:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I understand that.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so anyway, but yeah.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_02: Alright, um, now this y'all, y'all time the shit on Jay-Z, and I'm gonna play uh superior defense as I normally do.
1:20:58
SPEAKER_02: We gotta talk about your man Colin Kaepernick.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_02: Now I'm gonna preface, I'm gonna let them do their thing, but I'm gonna tell y'all this right now.
1:21:03
SPEAKER_02: Looking at a three-hour pod.
1:21:05
SPEAKER_02: I've had this same conversation.
1:21:06
SPEAKER_02: No, we don't.
1:21:07
SPEAKER_02: I had the same conversation, and there'll be no problem if we did.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_02: I had the same conversations about Colin Kaepernick when all of this happened.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_02: So please do not think I'm caping for Jay, but I am caping for Jay.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_02: Have at it.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_06: Mike, have you seen any any of the clips of I saw, I don't remember clearly, but I I kind of, you know, I'll get the piece of it.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_02: So I don't I don't I don't really, this is not even a long topic for me.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_02: No, I wasn't.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_02: That's all I was saying.
1:21:37
SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you mean?
1:21:37
SPEAKER_02: Colin Common has Colin Kaepernick has been doing interviews.
1:21:40
SPEAKER_02: Do we know why?
1:21:40
SPEAKER_02: Is he is it rollout?
1:21:41
SPEAKER_02: Is there something it's always a rollout with him?
1:21:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so maybe he's dropping a book.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_02: But he I didn't watch any of the interviews in its entirety.
1:21:48
SPEAKER_02: But he's doing interviews.
1:21:49
SPEAKER_02: I've seen multiple clips, at least four different places.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_02: So he's he's he's moving.
1:21:53
SPEAKER_02: He's outside.
1:21:54
SPEAKER_02: And they asked him about uh asking him about the Jay-Z situation.
1:21:57
SPEAKER_02: Um you remember that around the time he was kneeling and having the fight with the NFL, Jay-Z signed the whole NFL.
1:22:04
SPEAKER_02: What was the title?
1:22:05
SPEAKER_02: The NFL.
1:22:05
SPEAKER_02: He's the director of yeah, the music.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_02: He's in charge of the music and culture, some fucking jigaboo title they gave him.
1:22:12
SPEAKER_02: He says, Yeah, go ahead.
1:22:13
SPEAKER_02: They said we're past kneeling.
1:22:14
SPEAKER_02: So during that press conference when they were announcing Jay-Z and this, you know, he's gonna be our guy, whatever the case.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_02: Charlemagne was there too.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_02: Charlemagne.
1:22:21
unknown: Hmm.
1:22:22
SPEAKER_02: Didn't think about that.
1:22:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh Jay-Z said specifically that he spoke to Colin Kaepernick recently and that we're past kneeling.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_02: He didn't say it like back to back, but he just said those two things.
1:22:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, those two things happen, but the way it's always edited is always yeah, we know.
1:22:37
SPEAKER_02: So Colin, from what I know, never really commented on that.
1:22:41
SPEAKER_02: He kind of like Well, he couldn't.
1:22:42
SPEAKER_02: And this is my problem.
1:22:44
SPEAKER_02: This is my problem with Colin Kaepernick.
1:22:46
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I call Colin Kaepernick.
1:22:47
SPEAKER_02: You wanna you done?
1:22:48
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I'm not done.
1:22:49
SPEAKER_02: So um now Colin's doing interviews, and he's saying that he was trying to get in touch with Jay-Z for a while before Jay-Z signed that deal with the NFL.
1:22:59
SPEAKER_02: He said he couldn't.
1:23:00
SPEAKER_02: Out of nowhere, Jay-Z calls him the day before of the press conference and they have a conversation.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_02: Colin Kabanick expresses his distaste for Jay-Z's decision.
1:23:13
SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z tells him pretty much the ink is dry already signed.
1:23:17
SPEAKER_02: And Kyle Kaepernick says that his only thing to ask was leave my name out of it.
1:23:24
SPEAKER_02: Don't talk about me, don't mention me.
1:23:26
SPEAKER_02: Just if you if you're gonna because Jay he told, well allegedly he told Jay-Z, you're selling out to the to the races.
1:23:32
SPEAKER_02: Like you're selling the culture to the way to the races.
1:23:34
SPEAKER_02: Leave me out of it.
1:23:36
SPEAKER_02: Do your thing, I'm not part of it.
1:23:38
SPEAKER_02: I don't support it, I'm not fucking with it.
1:23:41
SPEAKER_02: Next day, press conference, Jay-Z says, I spoke to Colin Kaepernick.
1:23:45
SPEAKER_02: But she did.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_02: We're past kneeling.
1:23:47
SPEAKER_02: He did speak to me.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_02: Now Colin's saying, You only called me.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_02: I've been trying to talk to you for bad long.
1:23:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nigga.
1:23:52
SPEAKER_02: You called me the day before, so when you say it on TV, it's not a lie.
1:23:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm not sure.
1:23:55
SPEAKER_02: You did speak to me, but you didn't say what we spoke about.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because none of your business.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_02: So, and then we're past kneeling.
1:24:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're I specifically told you we're not past kneeling.
1:24:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, so he doesn't like he really doesn't like that Jay-Z did that.
1:24:09
SPEAKER_02: And then and then this just goes into the list of I guess small smear campaign that's been trying to go on with Jay-Z, where it's like the target thing, this, and that, like, it's just it's becoming uh you see it.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, but these they're not saying lies.
1:24:27
SPEAKER_02: No, but they're also not telling full truths because Drake, Kendrick, J.
1:24:32
SPEAKER_02: Cole's music is in Target too.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_02: True, but they haven't, they they're not well, Kendrick would be the only one that I would really like.
1:24:38
SPEAKER_02: No, do you listen to J.
1:24:39
SPEAKER_02: Cole's music?
1:24:40
SPEAKER_02: Okay, maybe all I'm saying is Drake never took stands.
1:24:43
SPEAKER_02: That's one out of three.
1:24:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but I'm okay, so then we could criticize Drake.
1:24:47
SPEAKER_02: No, but we're not.
1:24:49
SPEAKER_02: Hey, I I just want the IO chain.
1:24:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you you guys figure out the TDE chain, and the North Carolina chain.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_02: Does Jake J.
1:24:57
SPEAKER_02: Cole even have a chain, right?
1:24:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he has the Dreamville chain.
1:25:00
SPEAKER_02: But that's not even his bag.
1:25:01
SPEAKER_02: That's not his bag.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_02: J.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_02: Cole is the, you know?
1:25:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, his bag, I'm holding it.
1:25:04
SPEAKER_02: Humble, yeah, exactly.
1:25:05
SPEAKER_02: His bag.
1:25:06
SPEAKER_02: Did he cancel his tour?
1:25:07
SPEAKER_02: No.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_02: He's still on tour?
1:25:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:25:09
SPEAKER_02: Pretty sure.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_02: I feel bad.
1:25:11
SPEAKER_06: Yo, Cole, whatever chain you got, send them my way.
1:25:12
SPEAKER_06: Fucking.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm team J.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_02: Cole.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_02: I just ain't like the album, which he would appreciate, maybe.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_02: I don't think.
1:25:20
SPEAKER_02: Colin is out here kicking J.
1:25:21
SPEAKER_02: Cole's back end.
1:25:22
SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z's.
1:25:23
SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z's back end.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_02: And um, that's the talk.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_02: You got all that?
1:25:28
SPEAKER_02: I got it.
1:25:29
SPEAKER_02: You have any commentary before I go?
1:25:32
SPEAKER_02: I did, and I forgot.
1:25:33
SPEAKER_02: I'll try to pick up.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_02: Anytime you can punch in.
1:25:36
SPEAKER_02: I got you, bro.
1:25:37
SPEAKER_02: So Colin Kaepernick.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_02: Let me give you guys some details.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_02: So you heard all of that, and 90% of that is true.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_02: It's just kind of twisted.
1:25:46
SPEAKER_02: Twisted a little bit.
1:25:47
SPEAKER_02: Colin Kaepernick, the same guy that thinks uh Jay-Z is siding with the Slave Masters, also said in that interview that Charlie's talking about is that he wants to go play for the Slave Masters.
1:25:56
SPEAKER_02: So the problem with people like Colin Kaepernick is he fought a good fight and then he did what most people do and he sold out.
1:26:05
SPEAKER_02: He got paid by Nike.
1:26:08
SPEAKER_02: Which What's wrong with that?
1:26:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna show you what's wrong with it.
1:26:11
SPEAKER_02: Nike is affiliated with the NFL, correct?
1:26:14
SPEAKER_02: So why would you side if this is all about you know black power and kneeling, why would you sign a deal with Nike?
1:26:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's because he has bills to pay.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_02: He has to feed himself.
1:26:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he has kids.
1:26:25
SPEAKER_02: So when is when is the money good or bad?
1:26:28
SPEAKER_02: Well it was about police brutality, that's one.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_02: And two, and Nike was not condemning him for kneeling, it was the NFL.
1:26:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but the NFL and Nike are like this.
1:26:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but do I now do not do business with nobody who does business with the NFL?
1:26:41
SPEAKER_02: But that's that's what a boycott is.
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: That's how it works.
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: Why are we boycotting Target?
1:26:46
SPEAKER_02: Because they didn't, they they got rid of the DI program.
1:26:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but there's so we're gonna boycott Target for DEI, but we're not gonna boycott Nike for DEI.
1:26:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but there's PlayStations in Target.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_02: Do we not play PlayStation?
1:26:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I don't have to buy my PlayStation at Target.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't have to wear I don't have to wear Nike.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but Nike is not sold at an NFL store.
1:27:01
SPEAKER_02: No, but Nike and the NFL are in business.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_02: So they are with all of the sports he he hit a point though.
1:27:07
SPEAKER_02: But PlayStation and Target are in business too.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_02: No, but this the the point I'm trying to make is PlayStation did not get rid of DEI.
1:27:14
SPEAKER_02: Target did.
1:27:15
SPEAKER_02: Nike and the NFL are both like, yeah, you we're in business together.
1:27:20
SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's it's which one is it?
1:27:22
SPEAKER_02: But hold on, I'm not done yet.
1:27:23
SPEAKER_02: All right, let's try.
1:27:23
SPEAKER_02: No, I got you.
1:27:25
SPEAKER_02: Colin Kaepernick signed an NDA and got a tryout for the NFL.
1:27:29
SPEAKER_02: So which one is it?
1:27:30
SPEAKER_02: Are we boycotting the NFL?
1:27:31
SPEAKER_02: Or are you trying to play the NFL?
1:27:32
SPEAKER_02: Or are you trying to play for the NFL?
1:27:34
SPEAKER_02: Which one is it?
1:27:35
SPEAKER_02: I think he wants to play for the NFL.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't think that's gonna that's not gonna happen.
1:27:39
SPEAKER_02: Which I'm cool with, yeah.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_02: But he also he's he what he's saying is I should be able to play and express free speech.
1:27:44
SPEAKER_02: I agree with that.
1:27:45
SPEAKER_02: But then why I can't affiliate with the NFL and tell them that, hey, police brutality is wrong.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_02: That's what he was trying to do.
1:27:55
SPEAKER_02: But why but we fired him?
1:27:56
SPEAKER_02: And Jay did the same thing.
1:27:58
SPEAKER_02: But Jay said we're past kneeling.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_02: Because the kneeling thing is not getting the job done.
1:28:02
SPEAKER_02: That was his point.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_06: I don't lie.
1:28:04
SPEAKER_06: When when you guys just said that now, and me thinking of Jay-Z as a businessman, I and like I did think that.
1:28:11
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, maybe he's trying to like like yo, like that way, it ain't worth it.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_06: You gotta from within that.
1:28:19
SPEAKER_02: That was Jay's whole point, which was since the kneeling is cool, but the kneeling got you fired.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_02: It got other players fired.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_02: The Dallas people at their level, business.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_03: Since the Jay-Z press conference, what has Jay done in support of Collins' cause?
1:28:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, I he he literally said that I Collins' cause is his thing, but when the first person that he put on the Super Bowl stage was Beyonce.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_02: And her whole thing.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z did that?
1:28:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:28:44
SPEAKER_02: Wasn't that way before?
1:28:45
SPEAKER_02: No, she was his first thing.
1:28:47
SPEAKER_02: That's why they had the whole thing.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_02: No, it was the LA thing.
1:28:51
SPEAKER_02: No, it was Beyonce.
1:28:54
SPEAKER_02: Keep going.
1:28:55
SPEAKER_02: And then Beyonce, the controversy behind Beyonce was um she she had the whole Black Panther thing.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_02: And okay, let's say it was let's say it wasn't Beyonce, right?
1:29:07
SPEAKER_02: She did the Super Bowl in 2013.
1:29:09
SPEAKER_02: That was the last time she did it?
1:29:10
SPEAKER_02: In 2016.
1:29:11
SPEAKER_02: And when did he sign?
1:29:12
SPEAKER_02: Was this not 2016?
1:29:14
SPEAKER_02: No, this is like 2020.
1:29:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay, can you just double check that for me, bro?
1:29:16
SPEAKER_02: Like 2020?
1:29:17
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think it was 2020.
1:29:19
SPEAKER_02: But um let's say it was double.
1:29:20
SPEAKER_06: But there's only been like the last six or seven Super Bowls, don't we?
1:29:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're 2026, six, seven.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe it was.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_02: Maybe, right?
1:29:26
SPEAKER_02: But the the point that I'm trying to say is 2019.
1:29:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 2019.
1:29:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:29:30
SPEAKER_02: So the the point that I'm trying to say is that Beyonce and Jay-Z, her performance was, I think, the catalyst for him because they said no to the Super Bowl.
1:29:40
SPEAKER_02: The both of them, because of during the Colin Kaepernick thing.
1:29:44
SPEAKER_02: And then she only went to do the Super Bowl if she could do it her way.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_02: And she was her Super Bowl was super Black Panther, super black.
1:29:51
SPEAKER_02: They had the cop car being uh like the America hated that shit.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_02: I remember that.
1:29:54
SPEAKER_02: It was a big deal.
1:29:55
SPEAKER_02: So to say that it's okay for me, Colin Kaepernick, to sign an NDA, which said I can't talk about this anymore.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_02: I can't protest.
1:30:03
SPEAKER_02: I signed a deal with Nike, who's affiliated with the NFL, and I'm still trying to play.
1:30:08
SPEAKER_02: The NFL gave me a tryout, and instead of going to the tryout, I held my own tryout.
1:30:14
SPEAKER_02: That's what he did.
1:30:16
SPEAKER_02: The NFL gave him a tryout.
1:30:18
SPEAKER_02: So you're you're incorrect.
1:30:20
SPEAKER_02: So Beyonce's Super Bowl was February 2016.
1:30:23
SPEAKER_02: No, I said that was the last Super Bowl show.
1:30:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I said that was wrong.
1:30:25
SPEAKER_02: His the first kneel he took was um September 2016.
1:30:29
SPEAKER_02: So she did two Super Bowls before Colin was even a discussion of No, but I'm not saying that there they were protesting at tandem.
1:30:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
1:30:37
SPEAKER_02: I was saying that Colin Kaepernick wasn't the only person that was on some pro-black shit.
1:30:43
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:30:43
SPEAKER_02: It was there's different ways to do it.
1:30:45
SPEAKER_02: Did D2 was doing his Yeah, there was Diddy tried to buy the the Panthers and they and they told him he couldn't do it.
1:30:50
SPEAKER_02: So the NFL has been shitting on black people.
1:30:52
SPEAKER_02: Colin Kaepernick lost his job behind that, which is fucked up.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_02: But again, you're criticizing Jay, which I think is a fair criticism.
1:31:00
SPEAKER_02: I just don't think you, Colin Kaepernick, can make that criticism because they fired you for being pro-black.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_02: You still want to go back and work for them.
1:31:06
SPEAKER_02: You sign an NDA, meaning that you can't even talk bad about them, you can't protest against them.
1:31:11
SPEAKER_02: So, what was the whole point of this?
1:31:13
SPEAKER_02: What was what did kneeling uh accomplish?
1:31:15
SPEAKER_02: What did it do?
1:31:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think Colin, you're you're I you I agree with that.
1:31:21
SPEAKER_02: That's why he was a sellout to me.
1:31:22
SPEAKER_02: Forget about Jay.
1:31:22
SPEAKER_02: Let's just talk about Colin cappening.
1:31:24
SPEAKER_02: For me, the damning thing was was signing the NDA and then being a hypocrite for saying, oh, fuck the NFL, but I'm cool with with having a Nike deal.
1:31:32
SPEAKER_02: But you signed the NDA with Nike or NFL?
1:31:34
SPEAKER_02: But the NFL.
1:31:35
SPEAKER_02: He wouldn't have to sign an NDA with Nike.
1:31:37
SPEAKER_02: He signed a deal with Nike.
1:31:39
SPEAKER_02: And the reason why people looked at that as funny was because you can't be this all power to the people, but then you're signing people who's selling guns to the people to the NFL.
1:31:48
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't make any sense.
1:31:49
SPEAKER_02: If we're gonna boycott something, we're gonna boycott their affiliates.
1:31:52
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna boycott everything.
1:31:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, in 2019 he signed the NDA.
1:31:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that shit was whack.
1:31:56
SPEAKER_02: That's why he's a sellout to me.
1:31:58
SPEAKER_02: But the critique of Jay, I'm cool with.
1:31:59
SPEAKER_02: Well, the Jay Z's a capitalist.
1:32:01
SPEAKER_02: Like, point blank period.
1:32:02
SPEAKER_02: It's about money.
1:32:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:32:03
SPEAKER_02: The reason why I'm not gonna kill him on the sellout thing is that when when Martin Luther King was doing his speeches, there was people supporting him.
1:32:11
SPEAKER_02: Malcolm X, sure.
1:32:13
SPEAKER_02: The the the the sit-ins, the the bus um, the ride-alongs.
1:32:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, is it ride-alongs?
1:32:19
SPEAKER_02: No, it's ride something.
1:32:21
SPEAKER_02: The ride um my bad.
1:32:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, sorry, Ice Q.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_02: Ride-ins.
1:32:25
SPEAKER_02: Hold on.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_02: There was a bus boycott, my grumbly bus boycott, but there was a specific term.
1:32:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so anyway, all those things like they had support.
1:32:32
SPEAKER_02: Colin, I the reason why I feel so bad for him, and why I'm not gonna kill him off the NDA is that no one, like in terms of NDMB NFL, no one, bro.
1:32:40
SPEAKER_02: All it took, all it took was for Tom Brady to take a knee.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_02: Somebody with actual, like, where they would be like, damn, power.
1:32:47
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:32:48
SPEAKER_02: But nobody.
1:32:49
SPEAKER_02: Can I give you another caveat?
1:32:50
SPEAKER_02: But I'm not gonna say no.
1:32:50
SPEAKER_02: I think a couple people would.
1:32:51
SPEAKER_02: No, one of his man got fired, but he got his job back.
1:32:55
SPEAKER_02: You know why?
1:32:55
SPEAKER_02: No big star.
1:32:56
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no big star.
1:32:57
SPEAKER_02: But you know why though?
1:32:58
SPEAKER_02: And this is and again, this is why to me, it the Colin Kaepernick, and some people are gonna look at me like I'm a coon, was performative.
1:33:04
SPEAKER_02: Colin Kaepernick didn't start kneeling until he lost his starting position.
1:33:08
SPEAKER_02: And that that's a fact.
1:33:10
SPEAKER_02: Until he until he got bent for performance, is when he started this.
1:33:14
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, but he's police brutality.
1:33:16
SPEAKER_02: When he was starting, it was none of that.
1:33:18
SPEAKER_02: I mean Police brutality didn't start as soon as he got bent.
1:33:20
SPEAKER_02: Do you believe in coincidences?
1:33:22
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't actually don't.
1:33:23
SPEAKER_02: I don't.
1:33:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm a conspiracy theorist.
1:33:24
SPEAKER_02: So I don't I think what happened to him was that he thought that the NFL was gonna bend to his will, which he did not do enough research about the NFL and their owners.
1:33:33
SPEAKER_02: Jerry Jones told the cowboys, y'all can't kneel.
1:33:36
SPEAKER_02: And how many cowboys know?
1:33:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just I just I just think Callan wanted more, needed support from his peers.
1:33:44
SPEAKER_02: And I think um no one there was a couple people who kneeled, but nobody that mattered.
1:33:48
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:33:49
SPEAKER_02: Like his teammate in the NBA.
1:33:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he got a job, but he didn't matter.
1:33:53
SPEAKER_02: No, his teammate mattered because the team needed him.
1:33:55
SPEAKER_02: So they were like, yo, we can work this out.
1:33:57
SPEAKER_02: His teammate got rehoted.
1:33:58
SPEAKER_02: Real quick, real quick.
1:33:59
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, go ahead.
1:34:00
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, I was gonna make the example of like in the NBA.
1:34:03
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, what's the name?
1:34:05
SPEAKER_02: LeBron wore the I can't breathe shirt.
1:34:07
SPEAKER_02: Uh the the stars wore the I can't breathe shirts, the Breonna Taylor shirts.
1:34:11
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:34:11
SPEAKER_02: That made a difference because it's it's like why Colin Kaepernick didn't wear the I can't breathe shirt when he was a starter is my question to you.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_02: Can you answer that?
1:34:18
SPEAKER_02: The I can't breathe was before he got.
1:34:19
SPEAKER_02: No, it was after police brutality did not start when he got benched.
1:34:22
SPEAKER_02: I can't breathe was after he got fired.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm just using that as an example.
1:34:25
SPEAKER_02: Why didn't he stand up for police brutality before he got benched?
1:34:27
SPEAKER_02: If you can answer me that question, I'll give up all my points.
1:34:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, bro.
1:34:31
SPEAKER_02: I can't answer you that question.
1:34:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm not him, but I'm just saying that it could be where a point he just got fed up.
1:34:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't I'm you're you might be right.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_02: Man, I think it's a sellout, bro.
1:34:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
1:34:38
SPEAKER_02: He's a sellout.
1:34:39
SPEAKER_02: He signed out on the NDA, he got paid.
1:34:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm I'm cool.
1:34:43
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, but again, he got his tryout.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_02: The thing is, I I gotta get paid now, right?
1:34:46
SPEAKER_02: Because I have no I don't like I have no profession.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not a professional anymore.
1:34:51
SPEAKER_02: He was on his way out the league, anyways.
1:34:54
SPEAKER_02: He was a benched quarterback.
1:34:56
SPEAKER_02: But because you lost your starting position doesn't mean you just are like you're not gonna be used.
1:35:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, brother.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't think maybe I'm wrong.
1:35:02
SPEAKER_02: Maybe I don't know how football works.
1:35:04
SPEAKER_02: Football contracts are non-guaranteed.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_02: I I know that part.
1:35:07
SPEAKER_06: So I did not know that shit.
1:35:08
SPEAKER_02: His contract could have been a bazillion dollars.
1:35:10
SPEAKER_02: The minute that they benched him, they could cut him and they owe him zero dollars.
1:35:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:35:14
SPEAKER_02: That's how the NFL works.
1:35:16
SPEAKER_02: All of them.
1:35:16
SPEAKER_02: All of them.
1:35:17
SPEAKER_02: But they didn't cut him.
1:35:18
SPEAKER_02: They just they just feel you're not starting.
1:35:20
SPEAKER_02: You don't think that he knew he was every year there's a draft.
1:35:24
SPEAKER_02: Most teams keep two quarterbacks, some three.
1:35:28
SPEAKER_02: He already got benched, so now he's a second quarterback.
1:35:30
SPEAKER_02: They're about to draft one.
1:35:32
SPEAKER_02: What happens next?
1:35:34
SPEAKER_02: He's out of the league.
1:35:35
SPEAKER_02: That's what happens next.
1:35:37
SPEAKER_02: So I think he tried to use the Black Lives Matter movement as leverage to keep his fucking job.
1:35:42
SPEAKER_02: And you know he know why I have the smoking gun for that?
1:35:45
SPEAKER_02: Because Cannon Coppernick did not have a Nike deal before he took a knee.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_02: When he was the star quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers, he did not have a Nike deal.
1:35:55
SPEAKER_02: He got the Nike deal by taking a knee.
1:35:57
SPEAKER_02: Colin Kaepernick got paid to sign an NDA and then he couldn't talk about the NFL for however long it was, and now he's just talking about Jay-Z.
1:36:05
SPEAKER_06: Why he while he signed the NDA?
1:36:06
SPEAKER_06: Oh, Nike made him.
1:36:07
SPEAKER_02: No, the NFL.
1:36:09
SPEAKER_02: Nike made him because he was signed.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_02: He sued them.
1:36:11
SPEAKER_02: He sued them.
1:36:11
SPEAKER_02: So they were like, okay.
1:36:13
SPEAKER_02: He sold out.
1:36:14
SPEAKER_02: He didn't have to sign it.
1:36:15
SPEAKER_02: He chose to.
1:36:16
SPEAKER_02: But they gotta you gotta sign this, but you can't talk bad about it.
1:36:18
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
1:36:18
SPEAKER_02: And you get to try out.
1:36:20
SPEAKER_02: He got paid?
1:36:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and you get to try out.
1:36:22
SPEAKER_02: How much he got paid?
1:36:23
SPEAKER_02: It's not like 20 million.
1:36:25
SPEAKER_02: So Keynes, he made more money off of that than he did play.
1:36:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't look good.
1:36:30
SPEAKER_02: He made more money off of this.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_02: Off of this thing.
1:36:33
SPEAKER_02: That's what everybody was saying.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is I'm losing.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_02: My own people are not supporting me.
1:36:38
SPEAKER_02: Losing what?
1:36:39
SPEAKER_02: The battle between the like no one's kneeling with me.
1:36:42
SPEAKER_02: Because they saw you as a phony.
1:36:43
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm trying to tell you.
1:36:45
SPEAKER_02: Nah, I don't think it was a.
1:36:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:36:46
SPEAKER_02: Because a lot of people in the a lot of people did a lot of word salad where they spoke, oh yeah, Colin this, Colin that, but nobody was actually doing it.
1:36:53
SPEAKER_02: You know why?
1:36:53
SPEAKER_02: Because their contracts are not guaranteed.
1:36:56
SPEAKER_02: But that's my point.
1:36:57
SPEAKER_02: Nobody was willing to make the sacrifice like he was.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know.
1:37:00
SPEAKER_02: But are you let me ask you a question?
1:37:02
SPEAKER_02: Tom Brady's is this is this is my last part, my last argument.
1:37:05
SPEAKER_02: Tom Brady's getting his money.
1:37:06
SPEAKER_02: Do you consider this a sacrifice if you were already on the bench?
1:37:11
SPEAKER_02: No, not to this end of the day.
1:37:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I think I don't think it's fair, AG.
1:37:14
SPEAKER_02: I I I hear your And mind you, I had if you if all the gas money listeners go back 10 years and find out when this story dropped, and I had this same point, and it has nothing to do with my defensive Jay-Z.
1:37:26
SPEAKER_02: I know y'all gonna say it's that, it's fine.
1:37:27
SPEAKER_02: But I genuinely feel like Colin Kaepernick sold out the minute that he took the NDA and he signed a contract.
1:37:35
SPEAKER_02: He made more money off of this kneeling thing than this actual NFL contract, which is not crazy because again, NFL contracts are not usually not that brawl.
1:37:42
SPEAKER_02: And he only had really one or two good seasons.
1:37:43
SPEAKER_02: I think he was a great quarterback, but he didn't play long enough at that position to get the money, the fame.
1:37:49
SPEAKER_02: And unfortunately for him, he got he got benched.
1:37:52
SPEAKER_02: He was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do because once I'm out the league, it's really hard to make money.
1:37:57
SPEAKER_02: Black Lives Matter.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_02: I think I think at some point you gotta realize, like, I've I've done all I could.
1:38:03
SPEAKER_02: And now I'm gonna sell out.
1:38:04
SPEAKER_02: They're offering me this bag.
1:38:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to say so.
1:38:06
SPEAKER_02: All right, and it's like so.
1:38:07
SPEAKER_02: How would you know?
1:38:08
SPEAKER_02: That is that is I mean, I can see that.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_02: I can see that.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_02: But Martin Luther King is Martin Luther King to us because he did not sell out.
1:38:14
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
1:38:15
SPEAKER_02: He died for a call.
1:38:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he got an offer.
1:38:17
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you don't think he got an offer?
1:38:18
SPEAKER_02: They went to his wife with that, with him like what the FBI went to his wife.
1:38:22
SPEAKER_02: He probably did get an offer.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_02: No, he definitely did.
1:38:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna give you an example of how his family got an offer.
1:38:26
SPEAKER_02: The FBI went to his wife with all the cheating stuff because he was a serial cheater.
1:38:30
SPEAKER_02: He cheated on her all the time.
1:38:31
SPEAKER_02: They went with videos, pictures.
1:38:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what she told him?
1:38:33
SPEAKER_02: Because they were trying to get her to be like, yo, tell him to chip.
1:38:35
SPEAKER_02: That's not enough.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_02: No, but hold on.
1:38:36
SPEAKER_02: That's not 20 million.
1:38:37
SPEAKER_02: No, no, but hold on.
1:38:38
SPEAKER_02: But that's what we know about.
1:38:39
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:38:39
SPEAKER_02: This is this the only reason we know about this because she spoke about it.
1:38:42
SPEAKER_02: We don't know about what he got offered.
1:38:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:38:44
SPEAKER_02: And you know what she said to them?
1:38:46
SPEAKER_02: The movement is bigger than my marriage.
1:38:49
SPEAKER_02: That is that is the epitome of not selling out.
1:38:52
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:38:52
SPEAKER_02: Colin Kaepernick getting paid, signing an NDA, and still to this day wanting to play for the slave.
1:38:59
SPEAKER_02: Luther King has supporters who were.
1:39:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he got supported because he didn't sell out.
1:39:03
SPEAKER_02: I get what he's saying.
1:39:04
SPEAKER_02: Everything.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_02: You're supposed to die.
1:39:06
SPEAKER_02: You're supposed to die.
1:39:07
SPEAKER_02: You're supposed to go broke.
1:39:08
SPEAKER_02: Unfortunately.
1:39:09
SPEAKER_02: He's supposed to be, I'm not signing no NDA.
1:39:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm not taking no deal.
1:39:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna stand on my pivot because Black Lives Matter and y'all are killing black folk and fuck it.
1:39:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's like for me, it's like the 6-9 thing.
1:39:20
SPEAKER_02: It was a million people watching Martin Luther King speak.
1:39:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, why do you think that?
1:39:23
SPEAKER_02: You think it started at a million?
1:39:24
SPEAKER_02: If my if Colin had that, he may not have sold out.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_02: He took too long.
1:39:28
SPEAKER_02: He, I mean, he didn't he didn't wait long enough, he didn't put in enough work.
1:39:31
SPEAKER_02: Because the Black Lives Matter movement, the people that ran it, they made the bag because they were willing to stick through it.
1:39:37
SPEAKER_06: Maybe he did, but the point is, again, this is where is like with the morals, he was supposed to die trying.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
1:39:44
SPEAKER_06: You know, I didn't get it.
1:39:46
SPEAKER_06: Now, now I could see where he kind of like said, and I don't blame him for the money.
1:39:52
SPEAKER_06: If I was Calegan, like, you know what?
1:39:53
SPEAKER_06: I would have took the money and then the ship sinking.
1:39:56
SPEAKER_05: I'm taking the money.
1:39:57
SPEAKER_02: I would have done it.
1:39:58
SPEAKER_02: Martin Luther King's cause is way bigger than just police brutality.
1:40:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:40:02
SPEAKER_03: It's also a different, way different cause.
1:40:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying that Colin, he I don't Martin, Martin, I think his plan was to die about the cause.
1:40:10
SPEAKER_02: Colin just planned to die.
1:40:13
SPEAKER_02: Not planned to die, but I'm just saying he was he was willing to go to the king.
1:40:15
SPEAKER_02: He was willing to do it.
1:40:17
SPEAKER_02: Colin just wanted to take a knee just so y'all could say, yo, like this shit's kind of not right.
1:40:20
SPEAKER_02: You know, y'all should talk about it.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_02: You want to go uh bring awareness.
1:40:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, y'all should talk to these cops.
1:40:24
SPEAKER_02: It's not nice what they're doing.
1:40:25
SPEAKER_02: He didn't, he wasn't like, oh, I'm gonna go with the kick.
1:40:28
SPEAKER_02: But my silver bullet for that argument is why he do it when he's a starter.
1:40:31
SPEAKER_02: I I get you.
1:40:32
SPEAKER_02: Why didn't he do it when he was at the peak of his influence?
1:40:34
SPEAKER_02: Why did he wait until he was a little bit more?
1:40:36
SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
1:40:36
SPEAKER_02: Maybe, maybe, maybe his mind didn't does it as a part of the buttons.
1:40:40
SPEAKER_02: No, of course.
1:40:41
SPEAKER_02: Why are we not happy?
1:40:42
SPEAKER_02: But why not we why are we not happy when he did do it?
1:40:44
SPEAKER_02: No, we were.
1:40:45
SPEAKER_02: The culture was.
1:40:46
SPEAKER_02: Maybe he was true other time.
1:40:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, other starter did it.
1:40:49
SPEAKER_02: Other starter did it?
1:40:50
SPEAKER_02: His teammate.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_02: He was he was he a starter?
1:40:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's why he got back into the league because they fucking needed him.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_02: He sold out too.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_02: He was good.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_02: No, he wasn't.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_02: His teammate didn't sell out?
1:40:58
SPEAKER_02: No, because he didn't sign an NDA.
1:41:01
SPEAKER_02: They let him back to the league without signing an NDA.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:41:04
SPEAKER_02: Because he didn't get this 20 million.
1:41:05
SPEAKER_02: That nigga had to go to work still.
1:41:06
SPEAKER_02: Kyle Cabernet know how to work.
1:41:08
SPEAKER_02: He got paid already.
1:41:09
SPEAKER_02: I think if that teammate starts kneeling again, then he's back out.
1:41:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, the team they probably had an understanding that the kneeling shit is over.
1:41:15
SPEAKER_02: It was an indivisible NDA.
1:41:17
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, yes.
1:41:18
SPEAKER_02: So what I'm either way.
1:41:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because the NFL, they don't give a I told you Jerry Jones came out and was like, nobody in the Cowboys is kneeling.
1:41:26
SPEAKER_02: And nobody in the Cowboys knelt.
1:41:28
SPEAKER_02: Nobody.
1:41:29
SPEAKER_02: Again.
1:41:29
SPEAKER_06: I'm not my take.
1:41:31
SPEAKER_06: I understand.
1:41:32
SPEAKER_06: Um, like I'm not mad at what, you know, him taking the 20 mil.
1:41:36
SPEAKER_06: Me neither.
1:41:37
SPEAKER_06: It's fine.
1:41:38
SPEAKER_06: You know, you that that was uh like I gotta get money somehow.
1:41:41
SPEAKER_06: Maybe I got you know, I'm not mad at that.
1:41:43
SPEAKER_06: Yes, but he can't, you know, I it is true what you're saying.
1:41:47
SPEAKER_06: He, you know, he shouldn't be mad.
1:41:48
SPEAKER_06: Oh, he knows that he should know that that sh was gonna come with uh yeah, you know, like yo, sell out, yo.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_02: To me, you know him attacking Jay-Z is the pot con the kettle black.
1:41:59
SPEAKER_02: To me, they both did the same thing, they both are making money with or and off the NFL and are trying to be on some, oh no, I'm better than you because I I I took a knee and I'm pro-black, but he still wants to go.
1:42:11
SPEAKER_02: Is uh is the NFL the slave plantation or is it a place that you would want to play?
1:42:15
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_02: Because it can't be both.
1:42:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can't want to be a slave.
1:42:18
SPEAKER_02: If you're calling them this the plantation, then to me it's not right that you go back and it's like the nigga that sued sues you you sue the the workplace for for discrimination or workplace violence and that they're racism here, and then you want to go back and work there.
1:42:31
SPEAKER_02: Like it doesn't make any sense.
1:42:32
SPEAKER_02: The racism is not gone.
1:42:34
SPEAKER_02: His fight was never against the NFL, it was against police brutality.
1:42:37
SPEAKER_02: No, then it became the NFL because he made the argument that he got fired.
1:42:42
SPEAKER_02: Because no team picked him up.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_02: And his argument, this was the NFL.
1:42:46
SPEAKER_02: And I and I really think it's Trump made a call.
1:42:48
SPEAKER_02: This is the NFL's argument.
1:42:50
SPEAKER_02: No team is because he sued them because of collusion.
1:42:53
SPEAKER_02: He said that all the owners got together and agreed we're not hiring him, which I which is true.
1:42:57
SPEAKER_02: And then he the NFL was like, That's not true, you just suck.
1:43:01
SPEAKER_02: And then his argument was give me a tryout.
1:43:03
SPEAKER_02: And they were like, Well, sure, here's your tryout, but you gotta sign this NDA.
1:43:07
SPEAKER_02: And then Nike was like, We're gonna we're gonna back both sides.
1:43:09
SPEAKER_02: Nike sold guns to both sides.
1:43:11
SPEAKER_02: Nike is still with the NFL, and Nike paid the nigga.
1:43:13
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
1:43:14
SPEAKER_02: You know what's funny, but we all get one left.
1:43:16
SPEAKER_02: Did he go to that tryout?
1:43:16
SPEAKER_06: No, that's it.
1:43:17
SPEAKER_02: No, he did his own tryout.
1:43:20
SPEAKER_02: And then make the team, obviously.
1:43:21
SPEAKER_06: I I also do feel like, because sorry.
1:43:25
SPEAKER_02: Is he eating on the mic?
1:43:26
SPEAKER_02: He can do it.
1:43:28
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, says, baby.
1:43:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, if it was me, come on, man.
1:43:30
SPEAKER_02: I would have got up in here.
1:43:32
SPEAKER_02: Nah, you took a knee.
1:43:36
SPEAKER_06: I think even if he would have gone to that trial though, he probably wouldn't have made the team.
1:43:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he was a setup, man.
1:43:42
SPEAKER_06: He has a setup.
1:43:43
SPEAKER_02: And again, I respect what Colin Kaepernick did, but don't play the whole, I'm a martyr.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_02: I gave up, I gave up my profession for uh for police brutality.
1:43:51
SPEAKER_02: That's not what happened.
1:43:54
SPEAKER_02: No, he sucked, he didn't get re-signed, and then they were like, Yeah, we're not signing you because you want to take knees.
1:44:00
unknown: I don't know.
1:44:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't think so.
1:44:01
SPEAKER_02: No, the NFL is the villain in this.
1:44:02
SPEAKER_02: It's not fair.
1:44:03
SPEAKER_02: The NFL is a villain.
1:44:05
SPEAKER_03: Because you're also now in the between like your beliefs and your dream.
1:44:09
SPEAKER_02: Like, yes, he does want the best for black people, but he also his dream all his life is to be an NFL player.
1:44:14
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, I don't have the dog, I don't have a problem with that.
1:44:17
SPEAKER_02: I would have done the same thing.
1:44:18
SPEAKER_02: But it's hard to say a sellout.
1:44:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, a sellout is like a negative connotation, like you gotta die with the cause or just go play.
1:44:24
SPEAKER_02: But that's what I'm saying.
1:44:24
SPEAKER_02: I have two causes.
1:44:26
SPEAKER_02: I want to be an NFL player, and I want to do best for black people.
1:44:30
SPEAKER_02: Let me ask you a question.
1:44:30
SPEAKER_02: Why can't LeBron say nothing negative about China?
1:44:34
SPEAKER_02: I don't why because the N the NBA told him he can't do that.
1:44:38
SPEAKER_02: So did he sell out?
1:44:39
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:44:40
SPEAKER_02: You have to sell out, or you just don't play basketball.
1:44:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he probably he he don't like the term.
1:44:46
SPEAKER_06: I like I get you.
1:44:47
SPEAKER_06: But that is.
1:44:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm saying it's he sell out like in literal terms, not in a negative way.
1:44:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm you I'm just telling the truth.
1:44:54
SPEAKER_02: But I love it, bro.
1:44:55
SPEAKER_02: Is it a negative thing?
1:44:55
SPEAKER_02: Well, he's saying he depends on how you look at it.
1:44:58
SPEAKER_06: Like off the course.
1:44:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, is is people is is what the Chinese government doing to their country mean enough for you to stop playing basketball?
1:45:07
SPEAKER_06: Right.
1:45:08
SPEAKER_06: I if it's not then, and you do think so, then you're selling out.
1:45:11
SPEAKER_02: But you see, LeBron is not running around saying I'm I'm Chinaman.
1:45:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm I love Chinese people and I'll stand up for them against anything.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_02: That's the difference.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_02: Colin Kaepernick is still jacking that, yeah, oh yeah, the pollute I I I gave up my career for police brutality.
1:45:24
SPEAKER_02: That's not true.
1:45:25
SPEAKER_02: That's just 20 mil.
1:45:27
SPEAKER_02: I disagree.
1:45:28
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:45:28
SPEAKER_02: They fucking paid you to shut the fuck off and you took the money.
1:45:31
SPEAKER_02: Now, would he have still been playing today?
1:45:33
SPEAKER_02: Maybe not.
1:45:33
SPEAKER_02: He probably would have retired by now.
1:45:34
SPEAKER_02: No, he would have gotten it.
1:45:35
SPEAKER_02: No, no, he would have been playing the day after.
1:45:37
SPEAKER_02: But I think that's my point.
1:45:38
SPEAKER_02: He wasn't playing.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_02: Like people leave that part of the story out.
1:45:42
SPEAKER_02: He was on the he wasn't a starter, he was on the bench.
1:45:45
SPEAKER_06: I I I don't know much about football, so I don't know how nice or not he was.
1:45:48
SPEAKER_02: You know, no, he when he was good, he was good.
1:45:50
SPEAKER_02: But football is a very it's very that's why the contracts aren't guaranteed because you can get tackled or from season to season, you could be the best guy.
1:45:57
SPEAKER_02: It's but they they sign up to play.
1:46:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what the NFL got it good, bro.
1:46:03
SPEAKER_02: They got it good.
1:46:05
SPEAKER_02: Only like the only the Mahomes and the Brady's even Mahomes.
1:46:09
SPEAKER_02: His contract is not there was one gotta be.
1:46:11
SPEAKER_02: I mean, maybe not at least 81 or something.
1:46:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, they get a lot of it guaranteed.
1:46:14
SPEAKER_02: But there's only one guy that got a full 250 million guaranteed.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_02: Brady?
1:46:18
SPEAKER_02: No, he didn't get that.
1:46:19
SPEAKER_02: Um, it was uh Deshaun Stevens.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_02: Deshaun Washington.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_02: Watson.
1:46:23
SPEAKER_02: And he he got he almost lost it because he got the Alexander.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_02: Why why?
1:46:27
SPEAKER_02: Like, why?
1:46:28
SPEAKER_02: Because one tackle can Yeah, they don't want to take the risk.
1:46:30
SPEAKER_02: It's a risk.
1:46:31
SPEAKER_02: And the the players didn't fight for it.
1:46:33
SPEAKER_02: So what I would do is I'll sign you, right?
1:46:35
SPEAKER_02: Your contract is$250 million.
1:46:37
SPEAKER_02: You only get$100 million of it guaranteed.
1:46:40
SPEAKER_02: The rest of it, you can void it all.
1:46:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so there is a a percentage.
1:46:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:46:45
SPEAKER_02: Depending who you are, the smaller the percentage.
1:46:47
SPEAKER_02: No, but there's some guys that their contract is$250 million and only$50 million is guaranteed.
1:46:52
SPEAKER_02: You gotta earn the other$20.
1:46:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you gotta keep it.
1:46:54
SPEAKER_02: And you know, and I know, you're never getting the$200 million.
1:46:57
SPEAKER_02: Because you're gonna get hurt.
1:46:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's over.
1:47:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:47:00
SPEAKER_02: Talking about uh on that vein, um Gail Bean.
1:47:07
SPEAKER_03: Hey, yo! Gail Bean was on Cam Newton, and she says segregation should have lasted longer.
1:47:15
SPEAKER_00: I do think segregation should have lasted longer so we could have a clear mindset.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_03: Wait, I'm gonna speed it up on who we are.
1:47:22
SPEAKER_03: Wait, why doesn't it doesn't do that speed up thing?
1:47:24
SPEAKER_00: And have a like uh an infrastructure that can have less than a lot of different things.
1:47:28
SPEAKER_06: It's different now.
1:47:29
SPEAKER_06: It's like you gotta stop it, then you gotta go to settings, go to like the options somewhere or something, like and you gotta like it's crazy.
1:47:39
SPEAKER_02: Not really, but alright, fuck it.
1:47:42
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't think it should have lasted forever, but I think we integrated too early to where we are lost people.
1:47:50
SPEAKER_00: Like, yes, black people gotta do better, but do you believe in rewarding people for doing good, for doing what they should have done?
1:47:56
SPEAKER_01: Segregation just exposed a lot that we have to be better at.
1:48:02
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
1:48:03
SPEAKER_01: And sticking together.
1:48:04
SPEAKER_01: And at one particular point in time in humanity, it was a proud thing to say, like, yo, say aloud, I'm black and I'm proud.
1:48:11
SPEAKER_00: I think at some point we became also, we talk about oppression and oppressors, and then we somehow became as well the impress oppressors of one another.
1:48:21
SPEAKER_00: And it's just like since when do, yes, we have to be better, but that's why I ask, do we reward us for doing what's right?
1:48:29
SPEAKER_00: Like at an early age, we got stars for getting it right or for studying for the test.
1:48:33
SPEAKER_00: You get rewarded.
1:48:35
SPEAKER_00: And then somewhere along the way, the black community stop rewarding one another for doing where I'm supposed to reward you for doing what you should be doing.
1:48:42
SPEAKER_00: Yes, because it's hard out here.
1:48:44
SPEAKER_00: It's hard to do what's right.
1:48:46
SPEAKER_00: It is very difficult to get up every day and leave.
1:48:50
SPEAKER_02: I'll leave it there.
1:48:51
SPEAKER_02: It's a long time.
1:48:52
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot there.
1:48:53
SPEAKER_02: Um as the resident black, I will uh put on my black hat and try to break this down.
1:49:02
SPEAKER_02: Is she wrong?
1:49:05
SPEAKER_02: So the problem with segregation, specifically in America, and this is just my opinion, this is my POV, this is from my studies and my understanding of America, black folk, and all the et cetera.
1:49:17
SPEAKER_02: Segregation and the destruction of segregation or the stopping of segregation was about health and safety.
1:49:27
SPEAKER_02: So during segregation, black people were very united.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_02: It was FUBU.
1:49:33
SPEAKER_02: Fubu stands for for us bias.
1:49:35
SPEAKER_02: That brand that brand literally stands for that.
1:49:36
SPEAKER_02: It was made by a black man for us bios.
1:49:38
SPEAKER_02: Because a lot of clothing brands didn't want black people wearing them, like openly.
1:49:43
SPEAKER_02: We love polo, polo had a problem with blacks.
1:49:45
SPEAKER_02: Anyways, I mean that's and that's what she's saying.
1:49:48
SPEAKER_02: Let you not walk outside wearing foo boo.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, niggas gonna clown you.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_02: They wanna make fun of you.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_02: So during segregation, black people had no choice but to be for one another.
1:49:58
SPEAKER_02: So that's why a lot, she's not the only one I've heard make this.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_02: Argument that we were better off in segregation because you had to shop black, you have to buy black, you have to associate black, you have to date black, you have to marry black, you have to buy black, uh black people love Cadillac because we weren't allowed to buy Mercedes or whatever case may be.
1:50:12
SPEAKER_02: So it's certain things that were in intrinsically black, and it was we were better as a people in terms of unification.
1:50:20
SPEAKER_02: But the problem is when I know all black people live in Queens, I'm not gonna care about Queens water quality.
1:50:30
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna care about Queens education, I'm not gonna care about Queens uh air quality, transportation, I'm not gonna care about the transportation.
1:50:37
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna get the shitty outdated buses.
1:50:39
SPEAKER_02: Because this is America, I do still have to take care of Queens because it's in America, but uh damn, the water the water supply is a little weird.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, where can we divert the bad water to?
1:50:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Queens.
1:50:48
SPEAKER_02: It's just niggas there.
1:50:49
SPEAKER_02: It's not gonna affect my black and my white community.
1:50:51
SPEAKER_02: When that wasn't bus driver, or he called out.
1:50:53
SPEAKER_02: Oh, Queens don't got a bus today.
1:50:55
SPEAKER_02: No, he they don't got a back.
1:50:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all the bad buses that are about to go out of st out of commission, I'll have to send them to Queens.
1:51:02
SPEAKER_02: We can make a couple more dollars off.
1:51:03
SPEAKER_02: Check engine on.
1:51:04
SPEAKER_02: And they're all breaking down every day.
1:51:06
SPEAKER_02: No AC.
1:51:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that is what Martin Luther King was fighting for.
1:51:10
SPEAKER_02: It's funny how we bring him up again.
1:51:12
SPEAKER_02: Is integration, not only is it a moral thing, like why can't white kids and black kids and Asian kids and Hispanic kids all go to the same schools?
1:51:21
SPEAKER_02: Diversity is cool, you know, we all get the same education, and whoever's just better gets the job.
1:51:26
SPEAKER_02: Not, hey, you only get the job because you're black, or you only get the job because you're white or Asian, etc.
1:51:30
SPEAKER_05: Right.
1:51:31
SPEAKER_02: Why can't we live in a unified society where everybody gets their needs met?
1:51:35
SPEAKER_02: And but there's also the safety part where it is black people were subjugated to you know death and violence because it was easy to do it because you guys are all in one place and you this is your school.
1:51:48
SPEAKER_02: That's why the black school sucks.
1:51:50
SPEAKER_02: And oh, the white water fountain might have better, you know, quality water coming through it because I can do that because I know only black people are gonna drink from that.
1:51:57
SPEAKER_02: So that was a part of it, but she does have a point where there was just more ethnic pride when black people were all together and we're all struggling together and we all build up together.
1:52:08
SPEAKER_02: And some of her the greatest inventions that black people have come up with was pre-integration and the respect of the black household and the black woman and the black family, pre-integration.
1:52:19
SPEAKER_02: But it's not looking at the problem of once you guys are smaller, separated, and in these specific areas, because we saw it with um Michigan with the um the water.
1:52:29
SPEAKER_02: That was and it's happening.
1:52:30
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know if they cleared it up, but in Gary, Indiana, pretty sure that's where Michael Jackson's from.
1:52:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, they had no the electrical grid just broke down for like I think it was nine days and nobody gave a fuck.
1:52:43
SPEAKER_02: That couldn't have happened in a city that is mixed, because hey, white people live here, you know, our people are there, Asian people, they're gonna, you know what I'm saying?
1:52:52
SPEAKER_02: So it's it's a tricky conversation, and I do wish black people would get back to more of you know supporting one another and loving one another, but it's not as simple as, oh yeah, let's just all move to one city and then everything is gonna fix itself.
1:53:06
SPEAKER_02: And I do like her point about rewarding people for doing the right thing, it is positive reinforcement, that's why we do it with children.
1:53:13
SPEAKER_02: But I also don't like the participation trophy thing of, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna reward you for for getting up and going to work.
1:53:19
SPEAKER_06: For being here, yeah.
1:53:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we all gotta do that.
1:53:21
SPEAKER_02: Like the reward is uh staying for overtime, you don't have to do that, and the people that do do that should be compensated.
1:53:27
SPEAKER_06: Right.
1:53:27
SPEAKER_02: Not the niggas that everybody that shows up should get paid the same.
1:53:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I'm not gonna pay the guy that stays late and the guy that just shows up the same day the same amount of money.
1:53:34
SPEAKER_02: Like, no, we're not that we shouldn't reward the basic things like that.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_02: But it's it's a it's a it's a deep conversation that I I know she's probably what's the social saying about they were shitting on her for it, or were people agreeing with her?
1:53:45
SPEAKER_02: Uh I I don't remember.
1:53:46
SPEAKER_02: Um I mean, uh off off what it looks like, yeah, people are gonna shit on it because of just what it says, segregation should have lasted longer.
1:53:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:53:52
SPEAKER_02: So off that, you know, people are gonna be like, what the fuck?
1:53:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but um I just saw it and I was like, you know, I wonder where AGS is thinking about it.
1:54:00
SPEAKER_02: And I and and I love you, you know?
1:54:02
SPEAKER_02: We you gotta love each other.
1:54:03
SPEAKER_02: I love you, uh Mike.
1:54:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't love y'all.
1:54:07
SPEAKER_02: But I love y'all individually.
1:54:08
SPEAKER_02: I say, yeah, I don't I don't like it.
1:54:10
SPEAKER_02: You asked for this tandem.
1:54:11
SPEAKER_02: And I just say I know I brought it together, and I and I don't know if I regret it.
1:54:15
SPEAKER_02: Just say uncle.
1:54:15
SPEAKER_02: I may not be able to get Mike out of here.
1:54:17
SPEAKER_02: This this guy, he's committed to the gig.
1:54:21
SPEAKER_02: Just say uncle, brother.
1:54:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, in terms of people who hate each other, yeah.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_02: Vlad and Aries.
1:54:28
SPEAKER_02: My two favorite power couple.
1:54:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god.
1:54:30
SPEAKER_02: So I I did not think this was gonna be what it was.
1:54:33
SPEAKER_02: So Vlad goes to Aries Spears apparently has a podcast now.
1:54:37
SPEAKER_02: That's his podcast?
1:54:38
SPEAKER_02: I I said apparently.
1:54:39
SPEAKER_02: It looks like he was running it with the with with the white man.
1:54:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, okay.
1:54:43
SPEAKER_02: Uh knock off Rick Rubin.
1:54:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely Rick Rubin.
1:54:47
SPEAKER_02: So um, by the way, the Jay-Z interview came out, right?
1:54:49
SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't get to see it.
1:54:51
SPEAKER_02: I heard I think it came out.
1:54:52
SPEAKER_02: I saw clips were floating around.
1:54:53
SPEAKER_02: But anyway, I thought it was only a 15-minute interview.
1:54:58
SPEAKER_02: I thought Aries Spears invited him, shit on him, and just made him out kicked him out.
1:55:02
SPEAKER_02: But apparently it was a whole hour long.
1:55:04
SPEAKER_02: A whole hour and something.
1:55:05
SPEAKER_02: But again, Aries Spears, again, I think they handed Vlad another dub.
1:55:11
SPEAKER_02: They keep doing it.
1:55:12
SPEAKER_02: Aerie Spears looked crazy.
1:55:14
SPEAKER_02: And Vlad was chilling.
1:55:15
SPEAKER_02: Vlad was chilling.
1:55:16
SPEAKER_02: He didn't walk back anything.
1:55:17
SPEAKER_02: He was like, Yeah, I did do that.
1:55:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:55:20
SPEAKER_02: I can.
1:55:20
SPEAKER_02: I score surf.
1:55:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:55:22
SPEAKER_02: Fuck you.
1:55:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:55:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I don't know why Aries, he again, he brought up this whole, I'm a grown-ass man, I can change my mind.
1:55:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I don't know what it is, what is it with Nori and Aries and whoever else feels like this, where they feel like because you're grown and you can change your mind, that that sudden suddenly evolves you from consequence.
1:55:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yes, you can change your mind.
1:55:43
SPEAKER_02: But again, Vlad is saying, yo, you told me to meet you at the park at 11 o'clock.
1:55:47
SPEAKER_02: I cleared out my schedule, I paid my security, got my driver, I went to the park at 11 o'clock.
1:55:53
SPEAKER_02: I called you, you said, I don't feel like coming.
1:55:56
SPEAKER_02: Whatever the case you said.
1:55:58
SPEAKER_02: Let's say you said I changed my mind, I'm not coming.
1:56:00
SPEAKER_02: But I'm here already.
1:56:01
SPEAKER_02: You wasted my time.
1:56:02
SPEAKER_02: So Vlad's point is like, yeah, you have your you have your right to change your mind, but I'm tight now, and I have the right to say whatever I want to say, react how I want to react, because you didn't call me with enough time to change the schedule.
1:56:14
SPEAKER_02: So um anyway, they were they were having a back and forth.
1:56:17
SPEAKER_02: Um, Aries, I don't think is he, is he does he have to stick to the Yankee fitted with the Timps?
1:56:26
SPEAKER_03: Is is this I think that's his thing.
1:56:28
SPEAKER_03: Does he have to?
1:56:29
SPEAKER_03: Look, can we do like a two chains?
1:56:31
SPEAKER_03: Did it Young Berg did it?
1:56:33
SPEAKER_03: Like, can we do a a reinvention?
1:56:35
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
1:56:36
SPEAKER_02: Can he move maybe Doc Martins or something?
1:56:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, can you put the Yankee fitter straight?
1:56:41
SPEAKER_02: Can you bend the brim?
1:56:42
SPEAKER_02: Can we this shit snap back?
1:56:46
SPEAKER_02: Maybe something like this shit is looking crazy.
1:56:49
SPEAKER_02: Swap pants, makeup for the bags on his eyes, even though Vlad said he had makeup.
1:56:53
SPEAKER_02: My bad, my bad.
1:56:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna allow y'all to do this to Aries Spears, bro.
1:56:57
SPEAKER_02: Nah, it just looked crazy, bro.
1:56:59
SPEAKER_02: Because it's like, bro, you came out of nowhere with this.
1:57:01
SPEAKER_02: You only brought this up because we were talking about uh uh Boosie, and now all of a he was getting four grand per interview.
1:57:06
SPEAKER_02: I think that I think that was I do agree that was a lowball for the for the views and and amount of times Aries Spears was up there.
1:57:12
SPEAKER_02: I think that was a little bit of a lowball.
1:57:14
SPEAKER_02: Before I got deep into the content game, like how we are now, because I've been podcasting for 10 years, but I've never been.
1:57:20
SPEAKER_02: This is the deepest I've been into content.
1:57:22
SPEAKER_02: It's not a lowball because all he has to do is show up.
1:57:27
SPEAKER_02: He's not cutting, he's not editing, he's not setting up the room, he's not filming, he's not making sure the camera's correct, he's not making sure the the sound, he's not watching for the red dots.
1:57:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:57:40
SPEAKER_02: It's a lot that goes on, bro.
1:57:43
SPEAKER_02: So I'm on the side of the creator, and I'm I I don't know.
1:57:46
SPEAKER_02: I I but if Boosie was getting 20.
1:57:49
SPEAKER_02: But he's Boosie.
1:57:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
1:57:51
SPEAKER_02: Boosie was bringing numbers.
1:57:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:57:52
SPEAKER_02: And he said he paid Takashi 50, and he's and he said Takashi has brought back he's made profit.
1:57:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:57:57
SPEAKER_02: So which means he's made 50 already and more.
1:58:00
SPEAKER_02: And more.
1:58:01
SPEAKER_02: So I mean it was just I don't know, bro.
1:58:04
SPEAKER_02: It was just crazy.
1:58:05
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't think he should have clicked kicked Vlad out off because I feel like it was a little cowardly where you didn't let Vlad get his shit.
1:58:12
SPEAKER_02: No, you lost, you lost.
1:58:13
SPEAKER_02: Once you get when you're having a a debate with people, and I tell people this all the time, the first person to get emotional loses.
1:58:20
SPEAKER_02: Loses.
1:58:20
SPEAKER_02: Because you can't think anymore.
1:58:22
SPEAKER_02: And it becomes personal.
1:58:23
SPEAKER_02: You're not attacking my argument, you're attacking me.
1:58:25
SPEAKER_02: The minute you're talking to somebody like, shut up, bum ass nigga, like, oh, you lost.
1:58:28
SPEAKER_02: And that's what he was like, you're a fucking snake, you're an asshole.
1:58:30
SPEAKER_02: You're like, it was very like we talking about LeBron and Mike, and you're talking about me.
1:58:35
SPEAKER_02: You ain't naked to the NBA.
1:58:37
SPEAKER_02: What are we talking about?
1:58:38
SPEAKER_02: You lost.
1:58:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, you got emotional.
1:58:40
SPEAKER_02: And and that's the thing, is like that is two-in-o in these streets.
1:58:44
SPEAKER_02: Two what?
1:58:44
SPEAKER_02: 2-0.
1:58:45
SPEAKER_02: He's 2-0.
1:58:46
SPEAKER_02: He's 2-0.
1:58:46
SPEAKER_02: Y'all gonna agree.
1:58:47
SPEAKER_02: Even though I think it was nasty and despicable what he did with Norrie's wife.
1:58:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
1:58:52
SPEAKER_02: The two things he did with Nori.
1:58:53
SPEAKER_02: The lawsuit, too.
1:58:54
SPEAKER_02: He sued him?
1:58:55
SPEAKER_02: No, he this this uh this case came up about like uh statutory rape or some kind of thing like that.
1:59:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I didn't see that.
1:59:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that came up like an old like 1999, the thing he got accused of.
1:59:05
SPEAKER_02: I think he settled it in civil court, whatever, but that came up all of a sudden during this beef.
1:59:09
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, he dug it up, but he's not claiming it.
1:59:13
SPEAKER_02: But we know how this the streets are.
1:59:14
SPEAKER_02: Alright, we're and he's connected.
1:59:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, especially the wife did that was nasty.
1:59:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Vlad, Vlad is um, he's winning though.
1:59:21
SPEAKER_02: So but he I think he's cut from even though he's older, he is he's cut from the academics.
1:59:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, he knows how to use the internet.
1:59:27
SPEAKER_02: He he's he's the old academics.
1:59:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he knows how to use the internet.
1:59:30
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't know how to use the internet.
1:59:31
SPEAKER_02: And you know why Vlad was not liked as much?
1:59:34
SPEAKER_02: He's white, he's ugly.
1:59:36
SPEAKER_02: Ack is good looking?
1:59:38
SPEAKER_02: Better than Vlad.
1:59:40
SPEAKER_02: Charlotte, you're gonna piss me off.
1:59:41
SPEAKER_02: And Vlad has ugly fingers.
1:59:43
SPEAKER_02: Have you have you noticed the you noticed?
1:59:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't see that nigga's.
1:59:46
SPEAKER_02: Nah, you noticed, don't do that.
1:59:48
SPEAKER_02: You notice like his fingers like got a weird like straight in the face.
1:59:51
SPEAKER_02: I have never seen Vlad's fingers.
1:59:52
SPEAKER_02: Ah, you know.
1:59:53
SPEAKER_02: Come on, don't do that to me.
1:59:54
SPEAKER_02: That nigga Vlad fingers are crazy.
1:59:56
SPEAKER_02: I have never seen uh Vlad fingers.
1:59:58
SPEAKER_02: Did you see the oh and he and Vlad also cleared up the the pictures that Nori put out where he was like dressed in like super hip-hop, it looked like a do-rag, but Vlad said it was a bandana.
2:00:08
SPEAKER_02: Um he was styled for that by a hip-hop.
2:00:11
SPEAKER_02: Uh Vlad Vlad's actual DJ.
2:00:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he he the way Nori painted it was like that was Vlad just on his regular thing.
2:00:19
SPEAKER_02: It's like, no, that was somebody hired me to do that photo shoot and they put those clothes on.
2:00:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, Nori, you know, shout out Nori, you know, shout out queens.
2:00:25
SPEAKER_02: Um speaking of white people, you have something that's very intriguing to me.
2:00:29
SPEAKER_02: You have Converse with a K, three of them things.
2:00:31
SPEAKER_02: What's going on with Converse?
2:00:34
SPEAKER_02: So have you have you guys seen Converse's uh latest?
2:00:37
SPEAKER_02: First of all, I don't even know why Converse needs more ads.
2:00:41
SPEAKER_02: Like it's Converse, like it's like Air Force One, like Yeah, like no.
2:00:44
SPEAKER_02: People who are they're already gonna buy in niggas that buy Converse buy Converse.
2:00:48
SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right, right.
2:00:48
SPEAKER_02: I need a new pair now that we think we talk about it.
2:00:50
SPEAKER_02: But Charlie about to tell me why I can't wear Converse no more.
2:00:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh nah, so I'm I'm on the fence.
2:00:56
SPEAKER_02: Did you guys see the new Converse ad?
2:00:59
SPEAKER_06: Uh no, though no.
2:01:02
SPEAKER_06: Sorry.
2:01:03
SPEAKER_06: I did see a recent picture of uh like somebody wear wearing Converse.
2:01:08
SPEAKER_06: But it was just like the sneaker, so I I don't know, I don't know if that was an ad or not.
2:01:11
SPEAKER_06: So there's an ad, right?
2:01:13
SPEAKER_02: Um let me find it real quick.
2:01:16
SPEAKER_02: It looks like it's a it looks like a woman, but I guess it's hard to tell.
2:01:19
SPEAKER_02: In this era, huh?
2:01:21
SPEAKER_02: In this era, so this mic, if you can pass, if you got if I can give this a gander.
2:01:29
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:01:30
SPEAKER_02: That's that star is not part of it, but that's the picture.
2:01:33
SPEAKER_02: Um so they're saying that that white dress looks like a KKK dress, and the sneakers next to it, they say they strategically made it where you can't see the hands holding it.
2:01:44
SPEAKER_02: It looks like somebody's hanging next to the KKK outfit.
2:01:51
SPEAKER_06: That was I see what you mean.
2:01:52
SPEAKER_02: You could kind of see that that was the thing.
2:01:55
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:01:55
SPEAKER_02: Some say it's a reach.
2:01:58
SPEAKER_02: I can see the reach too.
2:01:59
SPEAKER_03: Some say it's warranted.
2:02:02
SPEAKER_03: I'm leaning a little more reachy, but I can see the non-reach.
2:02:10
SPEAKER_02: I think two things happened here.
2:02:14
SPEAKER_02: Come into my conspiracy office.
2:02:18
SPEAKER_02: I think Converse, that was great.
2:02:21
SPEAKER_02: I think Converse did this on purpose.
2:02:24
SPEAKER_02: I think they purposely did this so that we sit here and talk about Converse.
2:02:28
SPEAKER_02: They purposely made it look like, whoa.
2:02:30
SPEAKER_02: Because you remember, um, what was it?
2:02:32
SPEAKER_02: HM with the coolest monkey in the jungle hoodie.
2:02:35
SPEAKER_02: And then you had um, what was it?
2:02:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh what was it, Da Vinci or Montclair?
2:02:39
SPEAKER_02: One of them they had like the monkey.
2:02:41
SPEAKER_02: The monkey.
2:02:41
SPEAKER_02: Damn, it was Montclair that did that?
2:02:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:02:43
SPEAKER_02: I get rid of my fucking jacket.
2:02:46
SPEAKER_02: But they had like a clearly uh um a blackface styled garment.
2:02:52
SPEAKER_02: I think Converse was like, damn, they got a lot of press for that.
2:02:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:02:56
SPEAKER_02: But I'm gonna do it the smart way.
2:02:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna do it very subtle, so it could be a person hanging, or we could just be showing you some shoes.
2:03:03
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that's my game.
2:03:05
SPEAKER_02: All press is good press.
2:03:06
SPEAKER_02: My thing is we didn't talk about Converse in 10 years.
2:03:09
SPEAKER_02: Let's ruffle some feathers.
2:03:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's the only way to only way to do it.
2:03:12
SPEAKER_02: My thing is with this, is that maybe I could be wrong, but is this gonna are people are this gonna are people who've never heard of Converse or seen Converse are now gonna buy Converse?
2:03:24
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't is this gonna add to the Yeah, because we're just talking about it.
2:03:28
SPEAKER_02: And then make people go buy a Converse.
2:03:30
SPEAKER_02: I think I need a pair of Converse right now because we're talking Just to talk about this, I should wear.
2:03:34
SPEAKER_02: We should be wearing Converse.
2:03:35
SPEAKER_02: No, like it's working on me.
2:03:36
SPEAKER_02: I don't think about what was that?
2:03:37
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
2:03:38
SPEAKER_02: Classic, just black and white like that.
2:03:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't have one right now.
2:03:41
SPEAKER_02: You normally have a Converse.
2:03:42
SPEAKER_02: It's like you have an Air Force One, I have an Air Force One somewhere.
2:03:45
SPEAKER_02: To be honest, and I'm with you in the you got clown feet.
2:03:48
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't have clown feet.
2:03:50
SPEAKER_02: What's clown feet?
2:03:51
SPEAKER_02: Like flat footed?
2:03:51
SPEAKER_02: No, you're like you have the large feet.
2:03:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, I'm a size 13, so I guess.
2:03:55
SPEAKER_02: But I just think it's not a big you're a size 13, you're like 6'7.
2:03:58
SPEAKER_02: You have small feet, nigga.
2:03:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm six four.
2:04:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and you have a size.
2:04:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm six foot and I have a size 12.
2:04:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh, I mean, I guess.
2:04:08
SPEAKER_06: Well, all right, good thing you have small feet.
2:04:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
2:04:11
SPEAKER_06: What's your shoe size?
2:04:12
SPEAKER_06: All the all this feet talk, I want to hide my feet.
2:04:14
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, What's your shoe size?
2:04:15
SPEAKER_06: Hide your feet.
2:04:15
SPEAKER_06: 10, 10 and a half.
2:04:16
SPEAKER_06: 10?
2:04:17
SPEAKER_06: See?
2:04:17
SPEAKER_06: And he's 5'4?
2:04:19
SPEAKER_06: Oh.
2:04:19
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
2:04:20
SPEAKER_02: Why are you playing?
2:04:20
SPEAKER_02: Why are you playing?
2:04:21
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
2:04:22
SPEAKER_02: Kevin Hart?
2:04:22
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
2:04:24
SPEAKER_02: But uh, okay.
2:04:24
SPEAKER_02: Why are you you don't you never did the Converse?
2:04:26
SPEAKER_02: I just don't think it's a big guy's shoe.
2:04:28
SPEAKER_02: And I'm not.
2:04:29
SPEAKER_02: I consider it.
2:04:29
SPEAKER_02: It looks like clown.
2:04:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, no, it's not just the length.
2:04:34
SPEAKER_02: It's like it just my the Converse is such a small and skinny shoe.
2:04:39
SPEAKER_02: My body.
2:04:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it looks weird.
2:04:41
SPEAKER_02: It looks it's a it looks like a clown shoe.
2:04:44
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
2:04:45
SPEAKER_02: You know the clowns are the same.
2:04:46
SPEAKER_06: Nah, they do, they do like me personally when I buy Converse, I try to get half a size less because they do the bigger they are, the corner they are.
2:04:52
SPEAKER_02: But I feel like if I'm skinny, I can rock it.
2:04:54
SPEAKER_02: It's not really about the the how long they are, it's just I think on a big, on a wide person, okay, which I think I am.
2:05:01
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:05:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you want to join me on that.
2:05:03
SPEAKER_02: I know I am.
2:05:04
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I think on us, it doesn't look like clown shoes, it just looks like you're stepping into like you're putting your shoe in like a pencil or something.
2:05:11
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
2:05:12
SPEAKER_02: Like I I never looked at it that way, and I've definitely kept a pair of Converse.
2:05:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you know, now we have spent what 12 minutes talking about Converse, or yeah, we would have never done it without sponsor us.
2:05:22
SPEAKER_02: Facts.
2:05:22
SPEAKER_02: Would you wear the white?
2:05:23
SPEAKER_02: The white what?
2:05:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like it's crazy.
2:05:27
SPEAKER_02: Think I'm calling Captain?
2:05:29
SPEAKER_02: Wearing that shit, nigga.
2:05:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so um that was got so yeah.
2:05:33
SPEAKER_02: Damn, let me damn.
2:05:34
SPEAKER_02: I can't find number eight.
2:05:35
SPEAKER_02: What's number eight?
2:05:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you put it with You did that.
2:05:38
SPEAKER_02: I did that?
2:05:39
SPEAKER_02: Right there.
2:05:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's eight and seven.
2:05:40
SPEAKER_02: So wait, do we have a seven?
2:05:42
SPEAKER_02: Probably not.
2:05:42
SPEAKER_02: Seven, eight, nine, nigga.
2:05:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, anyway.
2:05:45
SPEAKER_02: This is more like a hypothetical.
2:05:47
SPEAKER_02: You starting the hypotheticals ready?
2:05:48
SPEAKER_02: We out of nowhere, yeah.
2:05:50
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
2:05:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:05:51
SPEAKER_02: So let's go.
2:05:52
SPEAKER_02: Hypotheticals.
2:05:52
SPEAKER_02: Let's start.
2:05:53
SPEAKER_02: I was watching a podcast.
2:05:54
SPEAKER_02: And I was it was an interview with Maida.
2:05:56
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever heard of Maida?
2:05:57
SPEAKER_02: She's an RB singer.
2:05:58
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:05:58
SPEAKER_02: I always thought it was a guy.
2:05:59
SPEAKER_02: I never seen her in person.
2:06:00
SPEAKER_02: She's actually a very beautiful white woman from Indiana.
2:06:03
SPEAKER_02: Um good milk.
2:06:05
SPEAKER_02: Good milk?
2:06:06
SPEAKER_02: Good.
2:06:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, good milk.
2:06:08
SPEAKER_02: So anyway, um they were talking about like reincarnation and X, Y, and Z.
2:06:13
SPEAKER_02: One of those was.
2:06:13
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, and she said something interesting.
2:06:15
SPEAKER_02: She said that everybody looks the thought of heaven.
2:06:19
SPEAKER_02: Everybody wants to go to heaven, right?
2:06:21
SPEAKER_02: Because you live forever and like with the angels and the this and that.
2:06:26
SPEAKER_02: And she was like, I don't want to live anywhere forever.
2:06:30
SPEAKER_02: Like being, she's like, the thought of being in heaven forever, right there.
2:06:35
SPEAKER_02: Is a little scare.
2:06:36
SPEAKER_02: No, it's just here, right?
2:06:37
SPEAKER_02: Like, no, it's not, no, it's not it's not a knock on heaven.
2:06:40
SPEAKER_02: No, but you you you're not gonna hear the way we hear it.
2:06:42
SPEAKER_02: That's why.
2:06:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:06:43
SPEAKER_02: But go ahead, finish.
2:06:44
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, but she's saying, all right, anyway.
2:06:46
SPEAKER_02: So I I could see the theory, the, the, the, I can understand where it's like, because everything gets old.
2:06:52
SPEAKER_02: No matter how good, no matter again, there's like they say, there's a uh for every bad bitch, there's a nigga tired of fucking her.
2:06:59
SPEAKER_02: Right?
2:06:59
SPEAKER_02: So everything is old, no matter how great it is.
2:07:02
SPEAKER_02: So it's like Will Smith talks about it no matter how much I made so much money and I've done everything that even that's old now.
2:07:07
SPEAKER_02: I kind of like all of that's like worldly, that's the thing.
2:07:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're not, yeah.
2:07:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, is it but we don't know what heaven is.
2:07:13
SPEAKER_02: So we we we're speaking from Yeah, so the funny thing about the um the Bible, right?
2:07:18
SPEAKER_02: And because in pop culture the Bible's funny?
2:07:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, it has fun, funny bits.
2:07:22
SPEAKER_02: You think so?
2:07:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think God's a comedian.
2:07:24
SPEAKER_02: I take God serious, but go ahead.
2:07:25
SPEAKER_02: Wait, something can be funny and serious.
2:07:28
SPEAKER_02: Okay, you don't watch it like film anyway.
2:07:33
SPEAKER_02: So the funny thing about the Bible and how um media portrays it is they always get like I didn't even know this until you know I have a spiritual uh guide in my life.
2:07:44
SPEAKER_02: That's funny.
2:07:46
SPEAKER_02: Shout out, yeah, you so you want to turn the AC back on?
2:07:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, whatever.
2:07:49
SPEAKER_02: I'll like uh shout out my man uh GR.
2:07:51
SPEAKER_02: Uh he's my spiritual advisor.
2:07:54
SPEAKER_02: And um heaven is not the destination, God actually remakes the world, and then we all go back into a perfect planet.
2:08:05
SPEAKER_02: So what would be the perfect planet?
2:08:06
SPEAKER_02: Like no sickness, no, you don't gotta go to work, like you just you just get to.
2:08:10
SPEAKER_02: It's indescribable.
2:08:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's indescribable.
2:08:13
SPEAKER_02: We can't our human brains, because we only know this.
2:08:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we don't we can't fathom we can't fathom what in life would life would suck if we had to do this for the going to work every day.
2:08:24
SPEAKER_06: I would assume you don't remember like bad moments, you don't even remember the people that stayed.
2:08:29
SPEAKER_02: I would assume that every I would assume that at least at minimum, every negative thing, every single negative thing we can think of on earth would not be negative.
2:08:36
SPEAKER_02: And that's the baseline.
2:08:37
SPEAKER_02: That's the baseline, right?
2:08:38
SPEAKER_02: But we don't even we can't fathom how glorious it would be to return to the warmth of the creator.
2:08:45
SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
2:08:46
SPEAKER_02: Like that's another part that we're leaving out, is that it's like, do you know what the feeling have you ever been on a long trip?
2:08:52
SPEAKER_02: Like away from like your friends and family.
2:08:55
SPEAKER_02: Like away from your friends and family.
2:08:56
SPEAKER_02: Like I don't like taking long trips, like five days after like the fifth day.
2:09:00
SPEAKER_02: I kind of want to go back to my bed, my house, my apartment.
2:09:02
SPEAKER_02: Like where I want to be back around my people.
2:09:06
SPEAKER_02: Imagine that feeling times whatever infinity.
2:09:10
SPEAKER_02: It's like we're going back to the source, we're going back to our creator, going back to our father, I got it.
2:09:15
SPEAKER_02: It's like taking the shit in your crib.
2:09:16
SPEAKER_02: Taking the shit in your crib.
2:09:18
SPEAKER_02: But times I'm not really.
2:09:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I don't think Charlie.
2:09:23
SPEAKER_02: You know, we've never been there.
2:09:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but that's kind of the point.
2:09:27
SPEAKER_02: I'd probably rather be back in my crib here.
2:09:29
SPEAKER_02: No, but but you see what I'm saying?
2:09:31
SPEAKER_02: Now, that feeling that you're having, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:09:34
SPEAKER_02: Expound on that.
2:09:35
SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's a feeling that we would never understand.
2:09:38
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I'm not I'm not gonna argue that heaven isn't great because I'm sure it is.
2:09:41
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying that heaven is not the end goal.
2:09:43
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm trying to tell you.
2:09:44
SPEAKER_02: Well, heaven is the recreation of earth.
2:09:46
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
2:09:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm I'm assuming that's what you meant.
2:09:49
SPEAKER_02: No, but there is a heaven that people are gonna wait at until Oh, so it's a waiting room.
2:09:53
SPEAKER_02: But it's the it's the lobby.
2:09:56
SPEAKER_02: Until when?
2:09:56
SPEAKER_02: Until the the the book of revelation plays itself.
2:10:00
SPEAKER_02: Thousands of years until he comes back.
2:10:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, so if somebody dies right now, the world the world still exists.
2:10:05
SPEAKER_02: They're just in heaven.
2:10:06
SPEAKER_02: Doing what?
2:10:08
SPEAKER_02: What you wanna you want a job, nigga?
2:10:10
SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you want to do?
2:10:11
SPEAKER_02: Isn't heaven not having them just say think about how you're gonna eat tomorrow?
2:10:16
SPEAKER_02: I could understand how I could I could I understand her fear where it's like somewhere forever, think about forever from a human mind, yes.
2:10:24
SPEAKER_06: It sounds like no pun intended again, it's a spiritual thing, so it's like what that thought is not even it's not worldly, it's it's in the spirit, so it's like you're not even thinking no that that thought that yeah, what she said is worldly, but it and it's not in the spirit, and what we're talking about is like more like spiritual, you know, so it it you're not even gonna you're not even gonna feel that way or think that way.
2:10:52
SPEAKER_06: I'm not gonna lie, I've had that thought too.
2:10:54
SPEAKER_06: I've had thoughts of like, damn, like and this is why I instantly I was like, that's the devil, because like I've had thoughts of like, damn, bro, like even if everything's good, whatever, like like just the just the thought of being alive forever.
2:11:08
SPEAKER_06: Like that doesn't mean you're you've seen movies of like, oh, I've been alive 800 years, and like and you think of like damn, that'll be mad fucking boring.
2:11:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, but that doesn't mean the thought doesn't mean you rather be in hell.
2:11:17
SPEAKER_02: That just means anything that is turning you away from the father is might as well be hell.
2:11:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
2:11:23
SPEAKER_06: So that's that's what I mean.
2:11:26
SPEAKER_06: Like, it's uh because it's it's it's the devil because it's like a temptation, it's like a it's it's not a you know you know Mike just came from church.
2:11:36
SPEAKER_02: The Holy Spirit speaking question is mine.
2:11:38
SPEAKER_02: What was the past the story?
2:11:39
SPEAKER_02: I know the pastor said a story today.
2:11:41
SPEAKER_02: What was the pastor's story today?
2:11:42
SPEAKER_02: I know they now the pastor always got a fire story.
2:11:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:11:46
SPEAKER_02: That's why he's a pastor.
2:11:47
SPEAKER_02: It's like every Sunday.
2:11:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, where are you getting these stories?
2:11:49
SPEAKER_02: Your life ain't even that late to have these stories.
2:11:51
SPEAKER_02: Holy Spirit.
2:11:52
SPEAKER_02: Nah, what was the what was the story today, mate?
2:11:54
SPEAKER_02: Um, I didn't go to judge today.
2:11:57
SPEAKER_02: You ain't gonna judge?
2:11:58
SPEAKER_02: He said he didn't go to church today.
2:12:00
SPEAKER_06: Nah, I ain't gonna lie.
2:12:01
SPEAKER_06: We had this activity in the park.
2:12:03
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
2:12:04
SPEAKER_06: He sold out.
2:12:06
SPEAKER_02: He told me he was going to Nah, he didn't sell out because he's not trying to paint nobody else as like, yo, you want to go to church?
2:12:14
SPEAKER_02: He's standing in his reason we're here at the time we're here is because he was going to church.
2:12:18
SPEAKER_02: And he chose the bag.
2:12:20
SPEAKER_02: He went to work.
2:12:21
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
2:12:21
SPEAKER_06: That was the case.
2:12:22
SPEAKER_06: The thing is, um, we had an activity today, like outside in the park.
2:12:25
SPEAKER_06: Calling ass nigga.
2:12:27
SPEAKER_02: And um You can't say that's your man.
2:12:29
SPEAKER_06: And I um since it was gonna rain in the morning, like I just didn't get in touch to see what was gonna happen.
2:12:36
SPEAKER_06: So um I kind of took like a little chill day, cleaning day in the crib before you know prepping to come here.
2:12:43
SPEAKER_06: So that's why I didn't go, you know.
2:12:45
SPEAKER_06: Sorry, Lord.
2:12:46
SPEAKER_06: I'll be there next week.
2:12:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm with him.
2:12:50
SPEAKER_02: I haven't been to church in a long time because of this podcast, by the way.
2:12:53
SPEAKER_02: I gotta go.
2:12:55
SPEAKER_02: I have a question.
2:12:56
SPEAKER_02: What else?
2:12:58
SPEAKER_02: Is it okay to be jealous of your friends?
2:13:00
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
2:13:01
SPEAKER_06: Ooh.
2:13:02
SPEAKER_06: Now she won't fuck with that.
2:13:03
SPEAKER_06: No.
2:13:04
SPEAKER_06: I um That is a worldly thing.
2:13:08
SPEAKER_02: People are calling people are calling Charlie a bad friend, by the way.
2:13:11
SPEAKER_02: That's a sin, by the way.
2:13:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh, they're killing my friend calling.
2:13:14
SPEAKER_02: They're killing my friend calling.
2:13:15
SPEAKER_02: Nah, but I'm with you though.
2:13:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh, and you saw the clip and you're like, you know what?
2:13:19
SPEAKER_02: He probably No no I still agree with myself.
2:13:20
SPEAKER_02: But I'm with you, like, I'm not I'm gonna defend you against all these things.
2:13:23
SPEAKER_02: The virgins out there.
2:13:24
SPEAKER_02: But not you guys attendance.
2:13:26
SPEAKER_02: We they the virgins know who we talk about.
2:13:28
SPEAKER_02: Um Mike, now I want to ask Mike.
2:13:30
SPEAKER_02: I want to ask Mike real quick.
2:13:33
SPEAKER_02: I started at 400, right?
2:13:35
SPEAKER_02: Wait, was Mike here for that conversation?
2:13:37
unknown: Yes.
2:13:38
SPEAKER_02: Well, it was about his birthday.
2:13:39
SPEAKER_02: He was here, yeah, yeah.
2:13:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
2:13:41
SPEAKER_02: So I don't think he spoke very much.
2:13:42
SPEAKER_02: He was just very quiet during that conversation.
2:13:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was very quiet.
2:13:45
SPEAKER_02: Because I was saying, yo, like, to expect your boy to have$50.
2:13:50
SPEAKER_02: Again, my cat, my my stipulations were he's 30 years old, he has a good job, and if that friend is asking you for$50 to borrow, are you gonna judge that friend and be like, here's the$50, cool, but like, what are you doing with your money?
2:14:08
SPEAKER_02: I know you got money.
2:14:10
SPEAKER_02: None of my business, bro.
2:14:11
SPEAKER_02: You're not gonna judge, like, I wouldn't be the most out of be his concern.
2:14:14
SPEAKER_06: I think, I think, yeah, I think um I'm not gonna judge, you know, unless it's gotta be a pattern of things, right?
2:14:20
SPEAKER_06: Like, if I see that's happening, and then I see like you had ripped boxers, and then I see other things, and you're not going to the barber, like, you know, maybe like if it's how you see this boxing?
2:14:29
SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying, like, you know, like sometimes it shows.
2:14:32
SPEAKER_06: You got friends that say my fault.
2:14:36
SPEAKER_06: I'm just saying, bro.
2:14:37
SPEAKER_06: I'm just I'm just saying, right?
2:14:39
SPEAKER_06: Uh things that kind of represent uh he might be on financial trouble, like he hasn't been to a barber in like two months.
2:14:44
SPEAKER_06: You know, then maybe I could.
2:14:46
SPEAKER_06: Black man, no barber in two months.
2:14:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, no, we're black.
2:14:50
SPEAKER_02: He's not talking about black men.
2:14:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, now you black.
2:14:52
SPEAKER_06: Now you black?
2:14:52
SPEAKER_05: I thought it was me, no black.
2:14:54
SPEAKER_05: We didn't forget the bigger.
2:14:59
SPEAKER_05: I see this shit, man.
2:15:00
SPEAKER_05: I was cute, though.
2:15:01
SPEAKER_05: I can be that he's a real capper nigga with that.
2:15:05
SPEAKER_06: Um, but yeah, so no, I I I'm not gonna judge you, but you know, it has to be a consistent thing that I see.
2:15:12
SPEAKER_02: No, because I was uh I I respect that.
2:15:14
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, going back to the jealous thing, like I was seeing um, I saw something where they were like he he said like he was just jealous of his friend because his friend had um a certain lifestyle and a certain woman.
2:15:26
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I like I know jealous is a sin, and you know, yeah, even just throw the sin thing out.
2:15:30
SPEAKER_02: Not saying, of course, but it's just like you can envy your friend without hating them.
2:15:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, for me it would be motivation.
2:15:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay, I would never Yeah, I think it's just portrayed.
2:15:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would never jealous is probably the wrong word.
2:15:44
SPEAKER_02: Envy is even worse.
2:15:45
SPEAKER_02: For me, it would be motivation, like my man's just getting it.
2:15:48
SPEAKER_02: Now I feel motivated to to to to get it as well.
2:15:51
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
2:15:52
SPEAKER_02: I see we at the party, my man is talking to 10 hoes.
2:15:55
SPEAKER_02: Dang, I can't leave.
2:15:56
SPEAKER_02: I can't, I'm at hoes.
2:15:58
SPEAKER_02: I can't I can't walk up out of here without I gotta I gotta I gotta start moving and shaking when I see my man's cooking.
2:16:04
SPEAKER_02: That's just natural.
2:16:04
SPEAKER_02: But there are some friends though, and I use the term loosely, that'll be jealous of their their friends.
2:16:11
SPEAKER_02: And they'll do things, and they will do things.
2:16:13
SPEAKER_02: You know, you all had that friend.
2:16:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he's still in your circle today.
2:16:16
SPEAKER_02: Listen, I know you get around a group of girls, yo, Charlie, you you got that bread that you owe me?
2:16:21
SPEAKER_02: Like, nigga, what?
2:16:23
SPEAKER_02: Remember those sneakers you borrowed?
2:16:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you ain't those and then I'm shit on you.
2:16:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, then aren't those mine?
2:16:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh, those are my.
2:16:28
SPEAKER_02: That's that's nasty.
2:16:29
SPEAKER_02: It is and or they or they start the tussling, yo.
2:16:31
SPEAKER_02: Let's let's slap box, and then it gets a little serious.
2:16:33
SPEAKER_02: Like when I'm when I when I let my Mike borrow that G G Shock.
2:16:37
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
2:16:38
SPEAKER_06: Damn, bro.
2:16:39
SPEAKER_02: I didn't even know you were gonna put me out like that.
2:16:41
SPEAKER_02: That was just an example, but you admitted it, so whatever.
2:16:43
SPEAKER_02: I was helping you out.
2:16:44
SPEAKER_02: But thank you.
2:16:45
SPEAKER_02: Friends.
2:16:47
SPEAKER_02: That's swag.
2:16:48
SPEAKER_02: This is my shit, nigga.
2:16:49
SPEAKER_02: It's my shit.
2:16:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm a good friend.
2:16:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right, right, right.
2:16:52
SPEAKER_06: Anyways, I've been guilty of I've been guilty of like, you know, damn and that sounds very bad, but I've I've been jealous before.
2:16:58
SPEAKER_06: Like, I've I've felt that.
2:16:59
SPEAKER_06: Like, damn, like this nigga, but you keep winning.
2:17:02
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, like like whatever it is, right?
2:17:04
SPEAKER_06: It couldn't have been him, though.
2:17:05
SPEAKER_06: No, no, no.
2:17:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, it couldn't it be?
2:17:08
SPEAKER_02: Well, it couldn't it be?
2:17:10
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, man.
2:17:10
SPEAKER_05: It could have been it could have been fuck the s nigga 500 sneakers and shit.
2:17:15
SPEAKER_06: You know, but about 450.
2:17:17
SPEAKER_06: About 450, right?
2:17:19
SPEAKER_06: But um, you know, I think it's a normal thing.
2:17:22
SPEAKER_06: I I don't think it's a righteous thing, you know, but I think it happens.
2:17:25
SPEAKER_06: But quick, like it's it's probably a uh five-minute thought, and and then for me, most of the time it does turns into just like motivation.
2:17:35
SPEAKER_06: It's either that or it just like disappears.
2:17:37
SPEAKER_06: Like, I don't, you know, because I remember feeling like, damn, like that's fucked up.
2:17:41
SPEAKER_06: Like I shouldn't, you know, because you feel wrong for feeling like that, you know.
2:17:44
SPEAKER_06: Like now, I'm not saying this, you know, something that's happened a lot of times, but you know, I've definitely been there and like, damn, you know, felt that like, you know, I don't even know if it's really jealousy, but it's like, yeah, like you kind of envy something, like, damn, this nigga, this nigga, you know, got a fucking Rolls Royce, you know, and it's like, damn, or or even on social media, right?
2:18:03
SPEAKER_06: Like, you see other people that you don't even know.
2:18:05
SPEAKER_06: It's not even a friend.
2:18:06
SPEAKER_02: That's why it's like, damn.
2:18:08
SPEAKER_02: Is it wrong to be jealous to the point where now you're gonna compete?
2:18:11
SPEAKER_02: I think competition And now you're gonna go after I think it depends how you want.
2:18:16
SPEAKER_02: Nah, that's like that.
2:18:19
SPEAKER_02: Competition is normal, especially amongst men.
2:18:22
SPEAKER_02: Men, yeah, I might even go as far as to say people.
2:18:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:18:25
SPEAKER_02: But um, it should all especially when people you consider your friends, to me, it's always gotta come from a place of I see you getting a homeboy and I'm motivated by that.
2:18:34
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes.
2:18:35
SPEAKER_02: And then when I get to your level, hey, yo, bro, if it wasn't for you, because look, like this is a quick story about my upbringing.
2:18:44
SPEAKER_02: Um I thought I was the man on my block.
2:18:47
SPEAKER_02: And then I started hanging out with my niggas.
2:18:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh um, they know who they are.
2:18:51
SPEAKER_02: And we started going out, and these two two particular dudes, my boy uh Ray and a tune who's been on this podcast.
2:18:59
SPEAKER_02: We going out and they're getting all the attention from women.
2:19:01
SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, I thought I was the man.
2:19:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you was in the friend zone.
2:19:05
SPEAKER_02: So no, I there was no friends at all.
2:19:07
SPEAKER_02: There was no zone.
2:19:08
SPEAKER_02: I was I was I was in ocean naked.
2:19:12
SPEAKER_02: So I had to learn how to maneuver and not to toot my own horn, and they would probably say the same thing.
2:19:18
SPEAKER_02: I eventually got to their level and then went up a level in in my success with women.
2:19:24
SPEAKER_02: Like I started cooking like unbelievable levels on my own, but I would not have achieved that Michelin Star if Michelin Star level, I would not have achieved that though, without watching them and seeing the gap between me and them.
2:19:36
SPEAKER_02: I would have just been on my block chilling, talking to the two bitches that live on my block.
2:19:39
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm the man.
2:19:40
SPEAKER_02: So would they say you're their son?
2:19:41
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't I'll be okay with that.
2:19:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm young, I'm younger than them.
2:19:45
SPEAKER_02: Mike would not approve.
2:19:46
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
2:19:47
SPEAKER_02: This is the thing about being a good one.
2:19:49
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you can.
2:19:50
SPEAKER_02: And this is the problem with niggas.
2:19:51
SPEAKER_02: Ego, I have a huge ego problem, right?
2:19:54
SPEAKER_02: But I have I've matured and I've learned how to because ego will destroy you.
2:19:58
SPEAKER_02: Ego is positive because it motivates you, but your ego also destroys you.
2:20:01
SPEAKER_02: You gotta wield it.
2:20:02
SPEAKER_02: You have to wield it.
2:20:04
SPEAKER_02: I am somebody's little nigga, and that's okay.
2:20:06
SPEAKER_02: I have little niggas of my own, and that's also okay.
2:20:09
SPEAKER_02: The problem is when the little niggas think that they would they become big niggas and now their big niggas is their little niggas.
2:20:15
SPEAKER_02: That's the problem.
2:20:15
SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
2:20:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't think they would call me their sons, but if they did, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
2:20:20
SPEAKER_02: I respect that.
2:20:20
SPEAKER_02: I didn't toon is older than you.
2:20:22
SPEAKER_02: I didn't think like to a couple years?
2:20:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's 92.
2:20:26
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, okay.
2:20:28
SPEAKER_02: I used to, I was like the runt of my group, like in terms of age.
2:20:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you went to the store?
2:20:32
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think so.
2:20:32
SPEAKER_02: Not with that group.
2:20:33
SPEAKER_02: I went to the store for a group, though.
2:20:35
SPEAKER_02: Let me get some, bring me some Doritos.
2:20:36
SPEAKER_02: No, no, not with them because we were too close.
2:20:38
SPEAKER_02: And they ain't let you keep the change.
2:20:39
SPEAKER_02: No, the niggas I was going to the store for, hell no.
2:20:43
SPEAKER_02: No, I've spent the change, and I used I came back to a fucking nigga, you wasn't supposed to spend the change.
2:20:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, I yeah, I'm a little I'm a I've been a little nigga before.
2:20:52
SPEAKER_02: That's how life works, but yeah, the envy, I was never envious of them.
2:20:56
SPEAKER_02: I was like, damn, these niggas is cooking, bro.
2:20:58
SPEAKER_02: They're getting all the bitches I want to talk to, and then I had to learn how to maneuver, and then I became somebody in my own right.
2:21:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I never knew I never knew that's how Mike looked at me.
2:21:06
SPEAKER_02: As a little nigga?
2:21:07
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
2:21:07
SPEAKER_02: No, like that's the person that's cooking.
2:21:09
SPEAKER_02: He didn't say that.
2:21:11
SPEAKER_02: My truth.
2:21:13
SPEAKER_02: Your truth indeed.
2:21:14
SPEAKER_02: That's how it goes.
2:21:15
SPEAKER_02: But how about how do you feel?
2:21:16
SPEAKER_02: How do you feel though?
2:21:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh jealousy?
2:21:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:21:19
SPEAKER_02: Um similar.
2:21:21
SPEAKER_02: Um, I I I I I forgot where I got that question from, um, but I knew there was a reason why, but I can't remember.
2:21:27
SPEAKER_02: You ever had a friend jealous of you and it was obvious?
2:21:30
SPEAKER_02: How'd you mean that?
2:21:31
SPEAKER_02: Actually, very recently.
2:21:32
SPEAKER_02: Actually, the last friend I lost, I think it was due to jealousy.
2:21:35
SPEAKER_02: When did it hit you?
2:21:37
SPEAKER_02: I damn this nigga wanna be me.
2:21:39
SPEAKER_02: It's not it's not like a wanna be me, it's that they owed me something.
2:21:45
SPEAKER_02: Money.
2:21:45
SPEAKER_02: Money, always, and I feel like they didn't want to pay me because they feel like I had it too good.
2:21:52
SPEAKER_02: Mmm.
2:21:53
SPEAKER_02: That's nasty.
2:21:54
SPEAKER_02: And it's like I don't want to pay you what you what I actually owe you because You got it.
2:21:59
SPEAKER_02: I feel like you got it.
2:22:01
SPEAKER_02: Whether I earned it, whether I inherited it, whatever the case is, that's bad work.
2:22:05
SPEAKER_02: Damn, like we gotta get that nigga on the pod.
2:22:07
SPEAKER_02: I wish.
2:22:09
SPEAKER_02: I would love to see now he he goes down as the top three, one of the nastiest people I've met.
2:22:16
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
2:22:16
SPEAKER_02: And then you had him as a friend.
2:22:19
SPEAKER_02: I was considering him like one of my one of my guys.
2:22:22
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah.
2:22:23
SPEAKER_02: That's that's how that always hurts the most.
2:22:25
SPEAKER_02: When a fuck nigga fucks you over and he's not a friend, uh.
2:22:27
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:22:28
SPEAKER_02: But when it's somebody that you let into your personal circle, I I've met his family, parents, kids.
2:22:34
SPEAKER_02: I've carried his son, like, man, you know what I'm saying?
2:22:37
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like either way it goes, it's nasty, it's nasty, man.
2:22:41
SPEAKER_02: Damn.
2:22:42
SPEAKER_02: All right, we we you call my name for something.
2:22:44
SPEAKER_02: What's going on?
2:22:44
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say take us out with the last one.
2:22:46
SPEAKER_02: Oh, AG finally has a hypothetical.
2:22:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, ladies and gentlemen.
2:22:49
SPEAKER_02: They're not gonna live up to Charlie's because Charlie is the hypothetical, but I have one for you guys.
2:22:55
SPEAKER_02: Would you allow your kids?
2:22:57
SPEAKER_02: Because you guys are kidless, but I would love to hear your perspective on how things are.
2:22:59
SPEAKER_02: Wait, would not I got sons.
2:23:01
SPEAKER_02: Do you who name one?
2:23:02
SPEAKER_02: I got some.
2:23:03
SPEAKER_02: I just named one.
2:23:06
SPEAKER_02: That nigga gonna come see you, brother.
2:23:08
SPEAKER_02: Would you allow your kids to be fly with someone who disrespects you?
2:23:13
SPEAKER_02: So I'll give you an example.
2:23:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, you have an uncle and he talks shit about you.
2:23:22
SPEAKER_02: Every time you see him, you know, he's disrespectful to you.
2:23:26
SPEAKER_02: Look at this nigga, bro.
2:23:27
SPEAKER_02: Worthless, useless dude.
2:23:28
SPEAKER_02: Uh you might see him in the street, he might ignore you, he might come into the uh your crib or like a neutral space, and he says hello to everybody besides you.
2:23:37
SPEAKER_02: But but he's your uncle, so your kids are related to him.
2:23:40
SPEAKER_02: And he's cool with your kids.
2:23:42
SPEAKER_02: How would you go about that situation?
2:23:46
SPEAKER_02: Why is he talking shit about me?
2:23:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, did I do something to him?
2:23:48
SPEAKER_02: He just don't like it.
2:23:54
SPEAKER_03: I don't know, like my gut says no, I'm gonna go with no.
2:23:59
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna go with no.
2:24:00
SPEAKER_02: Um, if there's no real reason, like if it's like, alright, your uncle's a good guy, but you know, I did fuck his wife back in the day, so you know.
2:24:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's different.
2:24:07
SPEAKER_02: He's always gonna have a thing for me.
2:24:10
SPEAKER_02: But he's he's cool.
2:24:11
SPEAKER_02: But if it's just like I don't understand, or like it's just like some weird energy, then you're gonna be like, Yeah, it's just weird energy.
2:24:16
SPEAKER_02: He chose you not to fuck with.
2:24:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, then no, because um if you don't love me and I've been here all your life, then why would you love my kid, you know?
2:24:23
SPEAKER_02: So I'm with you.
2:24:24
SPEAKER_02: I might keep you away from him.
2:24:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm with you.
2:24:27
SPEAKER_02: But kids are curious, man.
2:24:28
SPEAKER_02: They're they're gonna still maybe like say whatever to him just to like get a feel or they're yeah, especially when you're like, don't do that.
2:24:37
SPEAKER_06: They're like, what if I do it?
2:24:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, my mom always like as if from a young age, my mom always spoke to me about the forbidden fruit, and it's a strong thing.
2:24:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like an actual thing.
2:24:49
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean?
2:24:50
SPEAKER_02: No, like in metaphorically.
2:24:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you were about to scare me.
2:24:52
SPEAKER_02: I was like, what Dominican shit you about to put me on to?
2:24:54
SPEAKER_02: Santana.
2:24:55
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's the thing when you tell somebody no, it almost like it makes them want to want to do it even more, yeah.
2:24:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, because you know, it's like kids become like this it's a weird thing, because they're an extension of you, but they're also their own separate being.
2:25:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:25:11
SPEAKER_02: And it's like I don't know if you should be able to experience my child if you don't have no respect for me.
2:25:21
SPEAKER_02: Like, if you're not cool with me, should you be able to laugh and joke and experience my child becoming a man or even the influence you can have on my child, like you can spurn me.
2:25:35
SPEAKER_02: Like, you might oh yeah, you know your dad is this, your dad.
2:25:37
SPEAKER_02: Cause there's an interesting character in um Ghost the show.
2:25:41
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, not something power, it's just how long ago I didn't watch that shit.
2:25:45
SPEAKER_02: I I stopped watching when he died, by the way.
2:25:47
SPEAKER_02: So in power, 50 Cent's character kind of turns um Tariq away from his dad.
2:25:55
SPEAKER_02: But also his dad did allow that to happen by being kind of shitty a little bit.
2:26:00
SPEAKER_02: But without 50 Cent's character's like influence, I don't know if he would have ever turned from his dad to that extent.
2:26:06
SPEAKER_02: That he spoiler here, that he kills his dad.
2:26:09
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
2:26:10
SPEAKER_02: So it's like that's always been kind of my thing.
2:26:12
SPEAKER_02: It's like if you don't have no respect for me, family, friend, or foe, why would I allow you to be around my child in any space of influence?
2:26:19
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's that's kind of crazy.
2:26:21
SPEAKER_06: But for me, I was I was like thinking about it because I'm like I'm very big on like family and stuff, and you said family, yeah, family specifically.
2:26:28
SPEAKER_06: You know, and I'm just I I instantly went into like a room of like, all right, like it's Christmas, it's like kids running around, like the family's together.
2:26:35
SPEAKER_06: I'm like, how would I, right?
2:26:38
SPEAKER_06: But you know, I think I agree.
2:26:40
SPEAKER_06: Like, I don't like I'll probably try first, like, yo, well, like what's you know, like, like what's up?
2:26:47
SPEAKER_06: Like, what's what's going on?
2:26:48
SPEAKER_06: But if I try, if I did that, have a conversation and it didn't lead nowhere.
2:26:53
SPEAKER_06: Fuck you.
2:26:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nah, yeah.
2:26:54
SPEAKER_02: Y'all still feel the same even if you were wrong?
2:26:57
SPEAKER_02: If you're the reason why he don't fuck with you and he just never accepted your apology, it would have to be something like that.
2:27:02
SPEAKER_06: I mean, if I think I'm right, then it would have to be something egregious, like you're saying.
2:27:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's no right way of fucking your uncle's wife.
2:27:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:27:09
SPEAKER_02: There's no right in that.
2:27:10
SPEAKER_02: But if it's something like we disagreed on something, or we had a fight or something, like a fist fight.
2:27:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if we had a fist fight, I can move on from that.
2:27:18
SPEAKER_02: But if you can't move on from that, then fuck you then.
2:27:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
2:27:20
SPEAKER_02: Shouldn't have fucked me.
2:27:20
SPEAKER_02: Stay away from my son.
2:27:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, stay away from my son.
2:27:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what type of nonsense you're gonna be talking about, kid.
2:27:24
SPEAKER_02: And what if I how how do I know that relationship is not just in spite of me?
2:27:27
SPEAKER_02: And now my son is caught up in this.
2:27:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love my uncle, but that nigga is only flying with you because he's trying to get at me.
2:27:34
SPEAKER_02: Right.
2:27:34
SPEAKER_02: There's an interesting character in comics, uh, Doctor Doom, and he hates Reed Richards, right?
2:27:38
SPEAKER_02: He has like this burning passion for Reed Richards.
2:27:40
SPEAKER_02: He hates him because he's jealous of him.
2:27:41
SPEAKER_02: They were colleagues at one point.
2:27:43
SPEAKER_02: Dr.
2:27:44
SPEAKER_02: Doom develops a close relationship with Reed Reed's children because he hates Reed so much.
2:27:51
SPEAKER_02: So he's like, You're gonna have to fuck with me because like I think he he puts uh Reed Richards in a position to he had to make Doctor Doom his uh his daughter's um godfather.
2:28:03
SPEAKER_02: Like he had to do it.
2:28:04
SPEAKER_02: And now like weird shit like that.
2:28:07
SPEAKER_02: What if your uncle is 50?
2:28:10
SPEAKER_02: Years old.
2:28:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
2:28:12
SPEAKER_02: And gets in a nasty and sensuous relationship with your 30-year-old daughter.
2:28:21
SPEAKER_02: Like you would have to kill her.
2:28:28
SPEAKER_03: Not really.
2:28:29
SPEAKER_03: She's also choosing, she's 30.
2:28:32
SPEAKER_03: No.
2:28:36
SPEAKER_03: You have to kill him.
2:28:37
SPEAKER_02: That was very instinctual.
2:28:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
2:28:40
SPEAKER_02: Them two can stay away from me.
2:28:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, then she gotta go to the nunnery.
2:28:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, don't pull up, don't pull up to my house.
2:28:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, remove my last name.
2:28:48
SPEAKER_02: There's weird shit going on.
2:28:49
SPEAKER_02: Stepdads leaving their wife for the daughter, and that's regular.
2:28:52
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of shit going on out here.
2:28:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, incest is on the rise.
2:28:55
SPEAKER_02: I blame Game of Thrones personally.
2:28:56
SPEAKER_02: I think it's on the rise.
2:28:57
SPEAKER_02: You think it's on the rise?
2:28:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:28:58
SPEAKER_02: Everything's on the rise.
2:29:00
SPEAKER_02: All everything, cucking and like, yo, Adam 22 is like a he's a like an open cuck.
2:29:06
SPEAKER_02: And you know what it is the devil's on the rise.
2:29:08
SPEAKER_02: That's that's what we was trying to tell you, bro.
2:29:10
SPEAKER_02: This world is worldly things, yeah, man.
2:29:13
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I'm saved, man.
2:29:15
SPEAKER_02: I hope so.
2:29:16
SPEAKER_02: Genuinely.
2:29:17
SPEAKER_02: You're a good you're a good dude.
2:29:18
SPEAKER_02: I think so.
2:29:19
SPEAKER_02: You're a funny guy.
2:29:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't think$50 makes me a bad dude.
2:29:22
SPEAKER_02: $50.
2:29:23
SPEAKER_02: Like not judging you for not having$50.
2:29:25
SPEAKER_02: Nah, them niggas is roasting.
2:29:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but them niggas, they don't got no friends there.
2:29:29
SPEAKER_02: Like what he said, nigga said uh high top dread says it all.
2:29:33
SPEAKER_02: That was you got you gotta stop reading the cards.
2:29:34
SPEAKER_02: That was crazy.
2:29:35
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean by that?
2:29:36
SPEAKER_02: I didn't even click.
2:29:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
2:29:37
SPEAKER_02: I didn't even I'm about to start like replying.
2:29:40
SPEAKER_02: Nah, nah, I'm about to start seeing these niggas.
2:29:41
SPEAKER_02: Like, they got pro they got profiles.
2:29:43
SPEAKER_02: They have profiles, they have the pictures on their profiles.
2:29:45
SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
2:29:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh I'll just pay him a visit.
2:29:48
SPEAKER_05: Well, if you ain't got nobody to hate, feel free to hate on me.
2:29:52
SPEAKER_02: Hey, yeah.
2:29:53
SPEAKER_02: What they be saying about Mike?
2:29:54
SPEAKER_02: They cut him in the last clip I made about Mike, they cut him up.
2:29:57
SPEAKER_02: But it's yo, you know what we're gonna do?
2:29:59
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna do a segment at the end of every pod.
2:30:02
SPEAKER_02: We just read some comments.
2:30:03
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
2:30:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:30:04
SPEAKER_02: Yo, yo.
2:30:05
SPEAKER_02: Y'all keep him coming, bro.
2:30:06
SPEAKER_02: Y'all keep us popping.
2:30:08
SPEAKER_02: We love y'all, gas attendants.
2:30:10
SPEAKER_02: Keep doing y'all thing, man.
2:30:11
SPEAKER_02: We appreciate you.
2:30:12
SPEAKER_02: He said he is friend to no one.
2:30:14
SPEAKER_02: That's cold, though.
2:30:15
SPEAKER_02: You should get that tatted.
2:30:16
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
2:30:17
SPEAKER_02: That's cold.
2:30:17
SPEAKER_02: Like Ice Mom?
2:30:18
SPEAKER_02: No, you see.
2:30:20
SPEAKER_02: That's the name of the pod.
2:30:21
SPEAKER_02: That shit is corny.
2:30:22
SPEAKER_02: Bro, if you if you were a jigger, she's my mother would be just who my mom was.
2:30:27
SPEAKER_02: She just had a jigger mom.
2:30:28
SPEAKER_02: Nah, that's good.
2:30:30
SPEAKER_02: It's too close to jigaboo.
2:30:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_02: Can't do that.
2:30:34
SPEAKER_02: But um, I think we did it.
2:30:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:30:36
SPEAKER_02: I think we did it.
2:30:37
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think we I think we did it.
2:30:40
SPEAKER_02: Um Mike says with a why, baby.
2:30:41
SPEAKER_02: What's up?
2:30:42
SPEAKER_02: We thought you lost you, mate.
2:30:43
SPEAKER_02: Thanks for coming back.
2:30:44
SPEAKER_02: We're back here.
2:30:44
SPEAKER_02: We're back here.
2:30:45
SPEAKER_02: I was panicked.
2:30:46
SPEAKER_02: I was fighting the matrix.
2:30:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm back.
2:30:47
SPEAKER_02: All right, man.
2:30:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, we had a whole nother hour to our pod.
2:30:49
SPEAKER_02: We had a nice clean hour and a half pod last episode.
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SPEAKER_02: Mike comes 2 30.
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SPEAKER_02: 2 30 on the die.
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SPEAKER_02: That's how important you are to us.
2:30:56
SPEAKER_02: Um, can I get a perfect?
2:30:58
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
2:30:58
SPEAKER_02: Perfecto.