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Why Jack Daniel's Bonded Is Better Than You Expect · Aussie Bourbon Lovers

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  Incredible flavours. Even better stories. One pour. Ten minutes. Aussie bourbon lovers
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  sharing bourbon with Australia.
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  Nice.
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  It wasn't really a pop, it was a...
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  What do you think it was? A tinkle.
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  I was like, I don't know. Anyway, what are we drinking tonight, Dave?
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  Tonight we're having a Jack Daniels Bonded.
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  Oh.
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  It's a relatively new release. They released this in, I think, May 2022. So fairly new
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  for Jack Daniels, given that Jack Daniels has been around for a long time.
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  Yeah. Well, it's a very recognisable... label? Or Jack Daniels?
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  It is, you're right. Jack Daniels is a very recognisable label. Cheers.
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  Cheers.
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  Well, the bonded expression is obviously very new. May 2022, that's what I was kind of referring
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  to. But so this one is bonded. Do you know what bonded means?
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  Yes, it is. Well, I know some of it, might get some of it wrong, but they brought in
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  like a law, basically, to control the quality of bourbon or whiskey. And it's got to be
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  made in one season by one distiller at one distillery. And so if it meets all those requirements,
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  and then it's got to be at least four years in like a, you know, not super, like a supervised
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  warehouse. And then it's considered bonded, which...
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  Bottled in Bond is what that term is, right? The 1897 Bottled in Bond Act.
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  Yeah.
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  What are you getting on the nerves?
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  I don't know if someone was like watering it down or making it random colours or like,
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  that's why they brought it in, right? Because of all the people trying to...
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  Right. Rectifies and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly it. What are you
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  getting on the nose, H? How are you finding this?
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  Oh, that's like, I would say dark chocolate. But maybe that's because I feel like some
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  dark chocolate right now.
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  It's a desire more than a nose point. You're like, oh, it's a fish and chips.
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  I don't feel like fish and chips right now.
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  I'm getting like a fruity, uh, yeah, like, I wanted to use the word esters there, but
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  I don't even know what an ester is.
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  You know the Cadbury hazelnut and fruit, that block of chocolate? I think, is it fruit and
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  hazelnut or like...
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  Fruit and nut or something?
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  Yeah, fruit and nut. That's what, I feel like I've opened a packet of that.
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  A packet, like a block.
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  Yeah. When you open that block and you get that nice...
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  You're getting wafting.
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  Yeah. Chocolate and fruit.
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  I reckon bananas. I haven't warmed up at all, but I was getting bananas then. Anyway, on
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  the palate, I'm getting a fair bit of bananas, but this is this thing, isn't it? Every time
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  you go to drink, taste something, that you're always coming at it with the kind of the history
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  of whatever it is you were eating or drinking before or kind of where your palate's at.
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  Yeah. Well, like your palate's different all the time. I know some nights I'd be like,
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  oh my gosh, this is my favourite. And then another night I'm like, oh, really not what
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  I was expecting. It was exactly the same bottle.
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  So I think no age statement, but it has to be at least four years. Distilling season's
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  an interesting idea. I could be really wrong about this. I think it just means in a half
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  of the year.
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  Like a distilling season.
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  I'm pretty sure that's how they do it. It's almost like a six month window.
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  Yeah.
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  But anyway, I don't... Yeah, yeah. I think that's right.
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  Maybe don't quote us on that one.
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  Yeah. But it's like, I've always thought it was a bit weird that...
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  That's some fun homework.
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  I suppose they stopped...
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  Find out exactly how long a distilling season...
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  They used to stop distilling. There's this cool image that I have, and I've probably
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  seen pictures, I must have seen pictures of what the bonded warehouses used to look like.
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  Because there used to be bonded warehouses used to mean...
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  There was like security.
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  There was a government...
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  Yeah. Official.
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  Official who used to like kind of camp out.
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  Yeah. And no one could... Yeah. It was kind of like having a guard, security guard. So
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  there was no dodgy, I don't know, dodgy whiskey being in or out, or it was like, this is what's
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  actually happening.
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  Yeah.
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  It's like, you've made it. It's one season, one distiller, one distillery, and it's going
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  to sit here for four years. Imagine having that as a job.
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  Yeah. I wonder about it.
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  For four years here.
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  But you're supposed to be kind of just monitoring to make sure no one is stealing it?
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  Do you reckon part of it was sampling the goods?
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  I'm trying to remember, what is that person's job?
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  Is it the security, the government official to make sure that no one tampers with the
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  whiskey? But the whiskey's been there for ages.
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  Four years, at least.
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  So pretty cushy.
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  Yeah. But you have to be...
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  Would you be sampling? Are you allowed to?
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  I don't know. I'd take that job if I... I don't know. But then you have to do it in
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  shifts because obviously four years, you're not going to... What year are you on?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I first... I think we first got a bottle of this maybe a year ago
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  or something like that, and we quite enjoyed it. It's way better to me than the normal
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  Jack Daniels, the number seven, which I find is like a nice mix. You have it with Coke,
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  whatever, it's good. But I wouldn't drink it.
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  This one's nice, I would say.
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  But by itself, it's quite good. And I was reading just online before that some people
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  kind of propose that Jack Daniels make great stuff.
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  Yeah.
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  Just the old number seven's not that good.
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  Yeah.
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  Like it doesn't drink by itself.
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  Yeah. Well, I think it's made as a, you know, easy whiskey to mix with all those things.
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  It's the old recipe, I suppose. But there's this kind of idea that this particular one,
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  as long as it's kind of like, you know, when you get to a high proof, it's nice. Jack Daniels
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  is a Tennessee whiskey. So it ticks all the boxes for a bourbon, but then it ticks the
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  extra box to make it Tennessee whiskey.
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  What's the extra box?
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  Oh, you see, you jumped in before I could do the trivia question. Do you know it, Hope?
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  Let's play the music. It's called the Lincoln County Process. It's the charcoal filtering.
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  Oh, okay.
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  The maple charcoal filtering, so that it kind of drips through. When you do the Jack Daniels
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  here, you can see it. It's dripping through the, like these big kind of like massive-
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  And so that makes it Tennessee whiskey.
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  Yeah. Well, I mean, this has to be made in Tennessee as well to be able to do that, to
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  kind of claim that.
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  Obviously.
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  But the one distinction that Tennessee whiskey has over bourbon is that it follows all the
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  rules of bourbon and then it does this extra-
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  Which therefore makes it not a bourbon. It becomes a Tennessee whiskey.
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  No, wait, wait. It is definitely still a bourbon.
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  Oh.
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  It's like all bourbon is whiskey, but not all whiskey is bourbon. It's that thing. All
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  Tennessee whiskey is bourbon, but not all bourbon is Tennessee whiskey.
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  Also, it's bourbon, but it's got an extra kind of rule that they have to follow to make
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  a Tennessee whiskey.
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  Exactly. You won't see the word bourbon on a Jack Daniels bottle.
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  How come?
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  Because they claim the Tennessee whiskey category. They kind of say we're kind of better than
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  that, or like we have this extra thing. And this is true as well. Like there's a lot,
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  there's a handful of Tennessee whiskeys that do this thing.
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  Yeah.
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  But of course, fundamentally, you can't argue with the idea that to be a Tennessee whiskey
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  you have to follow the rules of bourbon in the first place.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So-
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  There you go.
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  There you go.
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  As soon as you say Tennessee whiskey, I just get this song in my head.
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  You get in the-
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  I'm not going to sing. Don't worry, don't worry. You can sing if you like to, but I'm
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  not going to.
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  Is there, is there a bottling bond that you think is the best?
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  Ooh.
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  Because there's this thing, Bernie Lovers from Heaven Hill is like, in my mind, every
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  time I hear bottling bond, I hear Bernie Lovers speaking about how important it is to appreciate
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  how good bottling bond is.
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  Yeah. Well, they've got to follow like all those rules. So it's kind of like there's
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  that extra effort.
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  Well, yeah. Well, yes, this is true. This is true. Yeah. And you often see the extra
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  bit of tape across the top of the-
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  And is it 50, like it's got to be 50% alcohol?
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  I think it has to, does it have to be exactly, or does it have to be a minimum? But that
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  always is 50? I don't know. Yeah. You're right. It has to be 100 proof.
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  100 proof. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah. So it's always, as far as I can tell, it's always 50. Yep.
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  Yep.
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  Yep. So do you have a favourite?
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  Look at you skirting around the question.
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  I don't know. There's-
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  You're cheating. You're staring at the shelf.
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  I like all of them.
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  Okay.
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  Do you have a favourite, Dave?
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  This is a bad answer, actually.
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  Oh, no answer's bad. It's bourbon.
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  Do you know what one of my favourite bottling bonds is? Is that really little one we got
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  from Old Forrester.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  It's that little, it's a special release one.
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  Yes.
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  Every time I come in here, I'm staring at those bourbons, and I'm often like, oh, I
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  love a bit of that, but there's such a small bottle, and there's not very much of it. I
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  don't think I should have that. So I think, yeah, no, I-
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  I don't know if I've ever had a bad bottling bond. That's what I'm trying to rack my brain
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  to go, is there one I don't like? It might be easier to find than I do, but-
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  There's one up there I didn't like very much, actually.
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  Don't name it.
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  I'm not going to say. But it's like, it wasn't that it was bad, it's just that it wasn't
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  really loved.
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  It wasn't your favourite. Yeah.
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  But it's also, bottling bond is like, you don't, it doesn't mean it's the best whisky
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  ever.
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  I'll happily have another Jack Daniels bottling bond, because that's good.
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  Do you know whose bottling bond was really off the chain? It was the Larrikin one. Remember
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  they came out-
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  Oh, theirs was amazing.
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  Yeah, when they first launched, like rebranded as Larrikin, they kind of went nuts for that.
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  I remember that. We had the first Kentucky Bourbon Festival.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Yes.
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  The first was the one that we went to.
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  Not the first. Was there after like the 35th this year?
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  Yeah, but we haven't been to 35.
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  No, no, unless like they're celebrating them.
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  Anyway, so that'll be fun to go to. But here's to the people who follow all the hard rules,
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  even though they're not that, you know, they're not that easy to follow.
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  We can do hard things.
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  And bottle things in bond. Cheers.
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