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July 20, 2021 | Mental Wellness Series: Men · Topeka Bible Church Audio Archive

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  SPEAKER_01: This is Dr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jim Walsh and his wife Rochelle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Jim is a certified, board-certified chiropractor now practicing functional medicine.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's going to tell you a little bit about that if you don't know, I had to ask.
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  SPEAKER_01: He holds advanced training in the areas of genetic and food sensitivity testing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Rochelle is a licensed clinical social worker specializing in EMDR, and she'll explain that too, which is a specialized technique for helping alleviate the symptoms of anxiety and trauma, as well as optimizing peak performance.
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  SPEAKER_01: They've been married for 25 years, and I know you're probably looking at him thinking, wow, they must have got married at 15 because they don't look a day over 35.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: So through their professional training as well as their personal health journeys, they have become passionate about sharing information related to brain health and optimal wellness.
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  SPEAKER_01: They office together and they look so happy in an integrated practice.
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  SPEAKER_01: And she says they have yet to strangle one another.
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  SPEAKER_01: So if you would welcome Rochelle and Jim this evening.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had my first experience with men's mental health when I was 24 years old.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just graduated from grad school in my first job.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was working in a residential treatment center with all boys, boys who had severe emotional disturbances and they were out of their homes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I got a job at a private practice in the evening, and I couldn't believe they hired me to run groups.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was young and inexperienced.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why they hired me for this, other than I was probably a great bargain for them because of my inexperience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was to be leading batters intervention groups for six months in Johnson County.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so this was my first experience, not with males, but with men.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I said to my mentor, I said, Well, I don't, I just didn't feel qualified.
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  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't qualified actually.
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  SPEAKER_00: My degree said I was, my experience said not.
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  SPEAKER_00: And he said something to me that really stuck with me.
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  SPEAKER_00: He said, Most of these men have had very hard things in their lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you help them connect to their story, they will heal.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you don't allow them or help them to be able to connect compassionately to their own emotions, they will never be able to feel empathy for people like they need to to be able to not have these anger issues.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was my experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I would have these men in groups for six months, and it was a very rich experience because even though they were forced to be there initially, the community and this sense of connection that was developed over those six months was a really deep experience.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think as I talk tonight, you know, I hope there's something about, and we share tonight, there's something that connects to your story and that you will come out of this feeling a little bit more understood and a little bit more in touch with yourself because we know that men's men's men's mental wellness is something that is difficult to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_00: And as Connie mentioned, you know, when when uh Josh took his life, I only knew him as a just passing by in the halls.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was the third man that I'd known in Topeka as an acquaintance, and I just got to thinking about having worked with men, and I do work with men in my practice now as well as women, and how that's really missing.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think this is maybe the tenth time I've spoken on mental health, never for men.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that there's a lot of missing information for men.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm glad you're here tonight.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna start off by this.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're just gonna kind of talk about what mental health actually looks like for men.
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  SPEAKER_00: You do!
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, does anybody remember that commercial from 2011?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was one of my favorites, I have to say, because I'm a therapist, so I find things like that funny, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But um, so I don't know if you missed the first thing that the gentleman said, but he said, I think the color yellow makes me sad.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when we think about like this commercial, I think in a way it really kind of captures the way men see mental health a little bit, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: The dilemma that there is between we all have vulnerability and we all have emotions, and yet maybe some of you have this drill sergeant guy in your head saying, you know, it makes you feel like a little pansy wansy and you know, go on over and just feel sorry for yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so not only do we get some of those messages from society as captured in this video, but we know also that men struggle with this internally because much of the reason, for many of the reasons we'll talk about tonight, kind of our conditioning and our own, it's called meta-emotion, the emotion that you have about having an emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when we feel sad, what's the emotion that we have in response to feeling sad?
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  SPEAKER_00: Does it feel okay to feel sad?
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  SPEAKER_00: Can we meet that with compassion and actually reduce it?
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  SPEAKER_00: Or do we feel a lot of distress because that says something about us that we shouldn't be experiencing?
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  SPEAKER_00: So many of you guys will recognize this guy up here, Michael Phelps, most decorated Olympian ever.
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  SPEAKER_00: In 2018, to bring awareness to mental health, he gave a talk, and he said that in 2014 he'd contemplated suicide before resorting to therapy, which saved his life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think again, you know, we look at him and he has it all, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: He's he's an Olympian, he's fit, he's active, he's healthy, he's got money, he's got access to resources, and yet the wording here I thought was, and that's taken directly from the article, the wording was that he resorted to therapy after considering suicide.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I don't know exactly what he was thinking here, but I think the message is that sometimes it can feel that scary to get help, that people would actually think about hurting themselves, and that that might be a little bit easier than reaching out and getting help.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we really want to understand why this is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why is it that it's so difficult for men to talk about mental health?
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think when we go to this, we're gonna think about the stat well, I'm gonna just start by telling you the statistics.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, men, although they do not um raise their hand and say, Me, me, I have depression and anxiety, so they're underdiagnosed, 132 people a day last year took their own lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: Seven out of ten of those were white men.
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  SPEAKER_00: Between 1999 and 2018, suicide rose by 30%, 50% increase in men between the ages of 50 and 64.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is this is an epidemic.
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  SPEAKER_00: 48,000 people last year took their own lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember what the statistic, but it was something like you know, however many millions of years life lost when they took the time of suicide to average life expectancy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we think about that, and and then this this blew my mind because I don't look these statistics up regularly, but that suicide is takes more lives than war, natural disaster, and murder all combined.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But yet how much do we hear about it in the news?
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't really hear much about it in the news, and yet almost everybody has been touched by loss of life and suicide.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so these things are things that we need to be talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when we think about mental health, I think a lot of the things that um I know shame.
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  SPEAKER_00: Shame is one of the biggest things that you know I help people with in therapy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if if you've read any books about shame, there's been a lot of self-help books and a lot of talk about shame in the last few years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Brene Brown really uh did a lot of research and coined it kind of uh, you know, as this mental health problem, and it really is because it drives people inward, you know, and basically they don't like themselves toxic shame.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's not just I did wrong, but I am wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so shame, you know, feeling weak, things like that commercial.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, it's funny when we laugh at it, but and but really it's not funny.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you guys, you have this real huge dilemma when it comes to taking care of yourselves mentally.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um, shame, feeling sometimes in the Christian community, I talked about this at the women's uh talk last time.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think there's a huge um problem a little bit in our Christian community where we always want to go to our faith and we want to know that God gives us the power to renew our mind and that we were born of a sound mind, and that's who we are in our creation in Him.
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  SPEAKER_00: That when someone's struggling with mental illness, sometimes there's a real feeling of that they're failing as a Christian, that they haven't really put their uh trust in God, they're really not uh praying hard enough, they're really not the leader that God wanted them to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so that compounds shame.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then misinformation, you know, not understanding, thinking that I'm just not thinking right, or I was just born broken, I just have some random chemical imbalance.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of that out there.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we have that misinformation as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then we have loneliness.
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  SPEAKER_00: I applaud you guys for being here.
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  SPEAKER_00: 63% of men state that they're lonely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was surprised actually that there wasn't as much disparity between men and women as I thought, because 58% of women, but still that's a huge percentage of people.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, and we think, oh, I'm a little lonely.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's a big deal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because loneliness has a strong correlation to heart disease and you know, increased cholesterol and anxiety and depression and suicide.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so as social connection goes up and social media has improved, and we have more access to email and cell phones, and more seemingly access to communication than we ever have been, we have people that are alone and taking their lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is one of the biggest things, loneliness, that contributes to people feeling helpless, isolated.
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  SPEAKER_00: And and the stigma really drives that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember the exact, I think it was in a marriage book we did years ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like, I can't remember, but it was like, oh, I know, it was love and respect, which, you know, the book, but it was like men would rather be, I can't remember the percentage, but men would rather be left alone and completely unloved than to be disrespected.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when you feel totally alone, and then you feel the shame and the stigma of I really can't talk about what's going on inside me, or I'm gonna be, you know, thought less of or disrespected, you know, that really, really puts you in a bind.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hope that tonight, as we share through this, that through giving you information, because there's gonna be a lot of information tonight, I hope that one of the things that that does is allows you to leave here tonight thinking about mental wellness as well as mental illness, thinking about it in a little bit different way.
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  SPEAKER_00: I hope it allows you to dispel some of the myths and maybe some of the at least be able to examine your thoughts and your attitudes towards it as well as getting a little bit of hope and knowing that you're not alone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because mental illness is so much more than just I'm not thinking about things right, or I'm not a positive person, or I just I'm just not strong.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm you know, those are those are character things, those are thinking things.
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  SPEAKER_00: But when we look at anxiety or depression or any other, by the way, men by the time they're diagnosed, usually have there, it's more they're more likely to be diagnosed with an antisocial disorder or an addiction.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, like those men that I saw in batter's intervention, they weren't bad guys, and I don't, I'm not excusing abuse in any way, and um, but some of them had spit on someone or something, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So these weren't all habitual batterers, they had, but they got help because they didn't know how to manage their emotions and they were destructive in their relationships and in their expression of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they had lost it at work one day, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so when we start thinking about this mind-body connection and we start seeing that, you know, there's no shame in talking about brain health, there's no shame in talking about some of the things that weigh down our mind, then we have more open dialogue and we can move away from this distorted thinking.
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  SPEAKER_00: So um emotions, it's not all just this uh warm, fuzzy stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want you to think about emotions.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's three major parts of emotion.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's the body, how do we feel it in our body?
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  SPEAKER_00: Most people don't know that when you first start talking to them, but every emotion starts with a body sensation, okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: And then we have our cognition.
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  SPEAKER_00: What do I say about that body sensation?
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  SPEAKER_00: What is the story in my brain?
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna go through this.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then the last is how do I choose my responses?
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  SPEAKER_00: What do I do in response to that?
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I was young, the 4th of July, we had moved away when I was probably going into third grade with some very close family friends that we always spent 4th of July with.
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  SPEAKER_00: So for the remainder of our 4th of July, until I went to college, this family would come visit us, one of my best friends.
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  SPEAKER_00: And early in the morning, our mom would we had does anybody else remember little ladyfingers?
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So she'd get the ladyfingers, and we'd have four little sandwich baggies, and we'd run around when they got there, and we'd light off the little ladyfingers, and then we'd have four, you know, wooden uh little planks halfway down the hill.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had a big hill, and we'd shoot off bottle rockets.
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  SPEAKER_00: And at night we'd go and watch the big display of fireworks.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then last but not least, at the end of the night, our dads would take up all of the duds from throughout the day, and they'd put them in metal trash cans, put gasoline on them, and light them on fire, and that was our firework display.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we'd have homemade ice cream, and it just, you know, so the 4th of July for me, when I see fireworks, it takes me back to that place.
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  SPEAKER_00: I get excited about the 4th of July.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to go see the fireworks.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I hear that boom, which is the signal from the environment, I have an emotional memory to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know some veterans that feel very differently because emotion is based on memory.
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  SPEAKER_00: Emotion is all about perception.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is no right or wrong way to feel, it's all based on perception, okay?
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  SPEAKER_00: And no two people have the same same story, no two people have the same perception.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so as we start to think about mental health and emotions and how we're processing things, we need to have an attitude of curiosity.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I just told you a little story about what the Fourth of July and an emotion that evokes in me.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a very simple what do I feel when worship music comes, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, we all have experiences and we're having them many, many times throughout each moment of every day.
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  SPEAKER_00: We are experiencing things, and I'm gonna tell you just how powerful your mind is and just how much you're picking up as we go along.
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  SPEAKER_00: But we're gonna talk about perceptions because first of all, we're not just born a blank slate, we're pretty blank.
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  SPEAKER_00: But in utero, the baby experiences every emotion that the mom experiences because all of our emotions have a chemical response to them.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we not only have a body sensation, but the chemicals change in our body.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if I hold my kids, right, or my husband on a good day, uh, you know, there's oxytocin, there's that bonding hormone, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And that makes us relax and feel good.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when stress comes in, we'll talk about that later, but our cortisol raises, our a bunch of things change in our body to prepare us for danger.
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  SPEAKER_00: Our cholesterol goes up, so we experience chemical changes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, every single one of those chemical changes passes through the placenta.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when the mom feels stress, guess what?
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  SPEAKER_00: The baby gets that signal, the baby gets the cortisol, it activates the baby's stress response, and the baby feels stress.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we don't, we're not born completely blank slates, but a lot happens after we're born.
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  SPEAKER_00: So how do we develop, how do we feel who we are?
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  SPEAKER_00: Who are we?
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  SPEAKER_00: How do we know what our identity is, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like we know really that in the way we were created, our identity is in Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yet, from zero to six, this is really, I just learned this recently, it's very interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the the brain waves that we have, you've probably heard we have alpha waves, beta waves, theta waves, we have different wavelengths of our brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when we're born, we have theta brain waves.
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  SPEAKER_00: And theta brain waves are the brain waves that we have when we're being hypnotized as adults.
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  SPEAKER_00: Kids have theta brain waves from zero to six.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what they're doing is this I put the picture up here because I just want to that we don't really learn who we are through what we decide.
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  SPEAKER_00: When we are children, we are looking at the world as a mirror.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if the person that's looking back smiles at me, then I think, oh, I'm a good person.
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  SPEAKER_00: I make people happy.
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  SPEAKER_00: If the person looking at me is angry all the time, I don't understand that that person has generational trauma or that person has an addiction, or that that person has stressed out because of their job or their marriage.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just think I make people angry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the child is looking at the world, they're downloading all the time.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like you're getting a whole blueprint.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're getting a blueprint for what happens when I cry, what happens when I smile, what happens when adults talk to each other, what happens when they're quiet, what happens when I go to bed, what happens when I reach for someone, what happens when we're in crowded places?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Are mom and dad afraid of people?
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  SPEAKER_00: And everything they're learning is downloading into this blueprint because God made us so amazing that we can take all this information, you know, put it into our system, and this is how we're gonna survive.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you know how we survive is by getting the people in our life to take good care of us.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: We can't survive on our own, we can't change our own diaper, we can't get our own food.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, what the child has to do is to adapt.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: So the child doesn't come into the world with a download of here's a healthy way to handle your emotions, here's a healthy way to talk to people.
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  SPEAKER_00: The child comes into the world examining the system, being very adaptive, being hypnotized by everything that's going on around them and saying, this is what I need to be to adapt.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's the peacemaker, maybe I just be quiet.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's so much to talk about, and we're not going to be able to cover it all tonight, but I want you to understand that between zero to six, you are downloading an amazing amount of information.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: And along with just reading that, I read that uh at three years old you can learn three languages simultaneously, which is pretty amazing because by the time you're eight, that window's closed, and then it becomes hard to learn even one language, as we know.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, zero to six, we're learning a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that blueprint, and and people often say, I don't want to blame my childhood.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want you don't have to blame your childhood, you just need to understand it.
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  SPEAKER_00: You just need to understand that some of these things, where they came from, so that you can choose differently, because that's the amazing thing about this is that we have the ability to choose.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that down low, when the child looks at the world and everything they're experiencing, feeling, and it might not be that the parents did a bad thing, right?
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_00: But there might be some things there that happened.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I I remember early when I was working, I one of I didn't understand, I thought what was what was going on with this kid.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: He had a lot of my first job again, very inexperienced.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember my supervisor really helping me make sense of it because he'd had a lot of um health conditions when he was born, and he was in the hospital for a long time, and he was um, you know, distant, not with his parents for a long time.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: And then later, when I met with the mom, she explained that it had been a very abusive relationship, and the dad had actually raped her in the hospital right after having him, and that she had gone into a deep depression because of the health consider the health concerns for her child.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that child didn't remember that that happened.
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  SPEAKER_00: But he had an imprint in his nervous system of a lot of trauma.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: So we get these things zero to six, and this is the download.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, we might not remember them.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter that we remember them.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't even, we don't even have to remember them to be able to shift them.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_00: We just have to acknowledge that we are we are perceptive beings, and that our emotions and the way they're filtered through our system and the way our nervous system responds is definitely influenced by early life experience set the stage and things that happen later.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we are a body of cells, remember that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so our Mind, when we talk about the mind, most of us would think, okay, well, this that my mind is my brain, and they're the same and what I think, and it's all up here, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So I want to explain the difference between the subconscious mind and the conscious mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you were figuring your checkbook tonight, or I don't know if people even do that anymore, but if you were doing something with math, you would for sure be using your conscious brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's our thinking brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's right up here, call prefrontal cortex.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, we learn there, we develop new skills, we're very creative.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's where they when they do scans of people in the spiritual state, it's up here, right?
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: This is where our memory verses are.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's our it's our best part of our reasoning brain, okay?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: And it processes 40 bits of information at one time, which seems like a lot, right?
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then we go to the subconscious brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's the stuff back here.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's the stuff in our survival brain, our reptilian brain.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's that blueprint I was talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: What's in our subconscious?
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  SPEAKER_00: So consciously we make a New Year's resolution.
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  SPEAKER_00: We say, This makes sense.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna do this this year.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: It makes sense that I would do that.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: I have the resources to do that, here's a plan, I can definitely do that, right?
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then we don't do it.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: And then maybe next year we go, no, I'm really, I'm definitely gonna do that.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna save money, I'm gonna get in shape, I'm gonna, you know, spend more time with my kids, whatever it may be.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_00: But if we've set that New Year's resolution again, and why aren't we doing it?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because our subconscious blueprint isn't a line, our subconscious blueprint said, I didn't make that decision.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: And the subconscious processes 42 million bits of information.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a million times more powerful, our subconscious than our conscious.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: So we have subconscious programs for everything.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: So when you drove here tonight, raise your hand if you remember what song was on the radio.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: One person did.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you heard it, right?
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Does anybody remember exactly how many stoplights you hit?
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: No?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Did you drive here?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: You did, right?
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: You did drive here.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: You all got here safely.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: No one had an accident, so you use your turn signal, probably, you used your brake, you were paying attention, and you don't remember it, probably.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because, but when you were first driving, when you were 16, you had to think about when to put on your turn signal and when to put on your brake, and you had to pay attention to, you know, am I supposed is am I supposed to merge here or there?
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_00: But you've done it so many times in your conscious brain because you focused on it, that now you have this automatic program.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: And when you got up, you didn't have to think about should I put my right leg in or my left leg in my pants?
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what to do today, right?
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't have to think about that, you didn't have to think about how to brush your teeth, you didn't have to think about so many things because so many things we just learn automatically.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so many things we do, um, we do because we saw when we were really young.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I will notice sometimes like a gesture my husband makes or something, and it's like he looks just like his dad when he does it.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: And he's not intentionally saying, Well, my dad does this when he talks.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, but he does that, right?
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not a bad thing, it's just a thing that he's learned.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: And we all have those things that we learn because it's part of our subconscious programming.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: So these aren't just thoughts, though.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Our subconscious brain does the same thing over and over.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's not creative.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: Our thinking brain is very creative, it can find solutions, it can problem solve.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Our reptilian brain just says, I'm just gonna do the same thing over and over again.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: And so, if we've been depressed, if we've been anxious, if we've been scared of certain things, if we've been avoiding certain things, if we've been responding to our emotions the same way, we do it again and again and again and again.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: Not because we necessarily want to, not because we even necessarily think it's the best thing.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's just because there's something out of our awareness.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: And the cool thing about the subconscious is that even though there's all this information that we're not aware of, we can pull it up.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes people say, I don't know why that bothers me.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know why this person at work just bugs me, right?
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: But then you start talking about it, and what does that feel like?
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you feel like when you're that's what we do as therapists.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: We say, What do you feel when that happens?
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: What do you say to yourself?
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: And then they reflect and then they're like, oh, yeah, it it kind of feels like that, or I think this person reminds me of that.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: So we can bring things up, and that's where we can really make shifts.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why, even if we've been stuck in a pattern of depression, we should never feel hopeless that things can't change because anything we bring into focus, we have the ability to choose to change what's in our mind.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: But if we're not aware of it and we're trying to battle things that we we really don't understand, we can't make sense of, then it's too hard.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's like we're constantly batting down things that are coming at us, but we really don't understand because we have a program that's running in an opposite direction.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so this is, you know, when we think about, and I I can't read that, so it's a good thing I kind of know this scripture, be not conformed to the world, but to the renewing of our minds, right?
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna be renewing our minds.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: So the pattern of the world, as I've just showed you, the pattern of the world is how we're conditioned by the things that happen to us and how people treat us, right?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: And how we how we respond to that, and not how we necessarily choose to respond, but what was how we responded that was adaptive at the time.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why when we talk about the mind, when we talk about things that happened to you, we talk about experiences you've had, we should never feel discouraged that there's nothing that we can't do because God tells us we can renew our mind.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: And when I looked in the commentary in my study Bible on that verse, the mind is the part that's that's where our morality is, right?
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's where our conscious thoughts, that's where we get to decide.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: Do I even agree with the fact that I'm worthless?
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: Is that even true?
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: I feel it, I feel not good enough, I feel insignificant, I feel, you know, I feel like I'm never safe, I feel like I'm, I can't be trusted, or I can't trust anyone.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: And we operate under those things as if they are truth.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_00: But when we test them, the next part of that verse says so that we can test and approve, so that we can have discernment, right?
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: We have to be able to know what those thoughts are so that we can take them up, we can test them, and we can say, it feels so true.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: It feels true to my core.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: But we have to be able to evaluate and say, but is it?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: And if it isn't, then we have the privilege.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: We're not animals.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: We we don't, you know, my dog couldn't choose not to eat her dinner if she tried, right?
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: She just, it's there, she wants it, she eats it.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_00: She has no ability to exert her will.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: But we have the ability to exert our will when we can identify those things that are in our mind that are not for us.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Cells.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: Your brain is a mass of cells, your body is a mass of cells, and we there are three things that change the physical structure of a cell.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: Thoughts, your thoughts change your cells.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: We're gonna talk about that.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: But when you're when you have a thought for 17 seconds, it becomes a protein.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: So when you start thinking about something negative, and you think, oh, it's terrible, it's gonna be awful.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can't stand it.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: I hate it when I hate the holidays.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hate this, you know, right?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: That thought after 17 seconds, it becomes a protein and it becomes a structure.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then your body goes, How do we respond to danger?
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_00: How do we respond to hating holidays with the family that stresses you out?
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, we send a stress response.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_00: And what that's gonna do is get your body all prepared.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: So you can't protect and grow at the same time, right?
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: You can't be in fear and growth and love at the same time.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: So these thoughts, so thoughts are the first thing that change our cells, they alternate is the second thing that can be physical trauma, you know, you get injured in some way, or it can be a toxin, something from the environment.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if I am exposed to a harsh chemical and my eyes burn, right, my cells have changed.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: If I go out in the sun and I get sunburnt, my cells have changed in response to something in the environment.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: So our cells are always changing depending on what we are exposed to, okay?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so when we think about our cells and we think about our minds, that we are in a constant state of either doing the same thing again and again and again and being exposed to the same signals, the same responses, the same thoughts again and again and again.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Or we're gonna be able to identify what are those things, what maybe the toxins are things in our environment, maybe they're toxic relationships we haven't set boundaries around.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they're thoughts that came from us that don't belong to us.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, generational trauma is a thing.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: As I discussed earlier, like it's passed through the placenta stress, but it actually changes the expression of our DNA, you know, when things happen to us.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't mean we're stuck with that, because what happens when we start doing things to shift that?
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if someone can go from feeling elevated at an eight, and then we can they can do some deep breathing, their cells change, right?
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: They say all of a sudden now my shoulders feel a little bit more relaxed, that burning in my chest is going away a little bit.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: What's happening?
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Their cells are changing.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't touch them, right?
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're doing that with their mind.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oxygen changes your cells.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_00: When you have deep breathing, I'm telling you, like one of the things that you can do that if you do it consistently, and it's really anything we do consistently is a little bit tough, right?
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: So we're gonna do it and then we're gonna have to do it again and do it again.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I get it, it's tough if we can cue ourselves.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: But square breathing.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, most people don't breathe in through their diaphragm.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_00: We breathe in our chest.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: So if you were to lay flat and put, you know, your right hand over your heart, your left hand over your diaphragm, you would want to see this place right under your rib cage expanding.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so when we expand our breath, so in through your nose for four counts, hold for four counts, exhale for four counts, hold for four counts.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_00: When we do that, and you do that for uh 15 minutes a day, or I'm sorry, 20 minutes a day over 15 weeks.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: So you could do it 10 minutes in the morning, 10 minutes in the afternoon, you do that twice a day for 15 weeks, your brain scan will look different.
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because it will activate your vagus nerve, and we'll talk about that in a minute, but your vagus nerve is what sends your body into a relaxed state.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: And when you activate your vagus nerve and you activate your parasympathetic nervous system response, things start to slow down.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: You can start to be more present.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_00: This this subconscious mind that we have, if it's running a program of anxiety, if it's running a program of depression, if it's running a traumatic response program in the background all the time, you're being exposed to stress hormones again and again and again.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_00: And when you start to do something different, new pathways, that's the thing they used to think that brain damage.
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_00: I remember I had a it's such a sad story.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_00: It was years ago, so I can talk about it, but when I was like 17 and she wasn't close to me, it was my uncle.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: He's one of my closest uncles.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: He'd married a young woman and she was 32.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she was driving, she choked on a cookie, and she was left brain dead for a year.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_00: And she was in a nursing home.
• 34:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it happened here in Topeka, actually.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she had no brain function, couldn't feed herself, couldn't speak, and it was about a year later she died.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: But um, so we can see like what brain damage happens.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember at the time my mom, I just I was like 17 maybe.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_00: I remember my mom coming home and saying that my uncle was just crying, saying, anything but the brain, anything but the brain, the brain can't heal, the brain can't heal.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: And in some cases that's true, but what we know about neuroplasticity now is that you are every every day we're developing new brain patterns.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_00: Every day you have a whole new set of neurons, and you can decide how to fire those and and how to create a relaxed state.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not saying it's easy, I'm not saying, but it takes repetition, it takes practice, it takes a lot of compassion, which might be the hardest piece.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Having compassion for your emotions might be one of the hardest things to start with is how do I get over?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: Do I have a blueprint that says I'm I should be strong, I shouldn't have emotions, and that if I have emotions, I'm not strong?
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_00: Is there is there a paradox in my mind that says if I have a negative emotion, I can't even let that emotion in because I'm gonna be like that drill sergeant telling myself I'm a self-pansy and that I have no confidence?
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: Or am I gonna be able to say, you know what, even though I believe that, even though every man in my family has believed that, even though the media might put that out there, I realize that the Psalms and all the Bible is full of people, strong people, godly people, pouring out emotions, that emotions is not our emotions are not the problem.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_00: Not having a blueprint for calming emotions, that is the problem.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: We can't we can't outrun suffering, we can't outrun emotions, and you know what?
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: When you get numb, when you start shutting down emotions, guess what else?
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: You shut off the joy.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: You can't just shut off the hard stuff.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: So that's probably one of the first shifts.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: But after we make that shift and we say, you know what, there are things that can change my cells, there are things I can do that influence my body and my brain, and my brain is an organ, and God gave me the ability to use my mind to design my responses in a healthy way.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, sometimes it's sometimes people have terrible uh abuse in their history, and and they feel broken because they're carrying the shame of what other people did to them or said to them, or what people didn't do.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe some people never got hell when they cried, so they were brilliant and adaptive, and they learned to not cry, or they learned to not need anybody because it wasn't available, and the most adaptive thing to do was to not need it and to not feel it.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: And now it feels terrifying when those emotions come up because I don't know what to do with them.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: I feel again like a trapped child.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: So there's there's a lot of things that we can do when we can recognize that we don't need to stay stuck and that our conditioning and our past and our parents and what was done to us and what was not done for us does not define our identity.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: God has already predetermined our identity, our mind, which is he gave us the ability to be completely aligned with our morality and his law for us, that our mind has the power, even though the subconscious brain is 42 million times faster and has more processing speed, that we can use our mind to influence what's there.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: We can reprogram ourselves, we can change ourselves, we can change our thoughts, we can change our body.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to give you an example of this, and this is how your brain works, okay?
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: So we said my I said mind, we've talked about the mind.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: This is a little bit just an example of how your brain works, okay?
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I think so.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_00: This is this is what your a crude representation of your brain.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um you'll see there, I can't point, but I think it's like the thalamus, the very middle.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's where the information comes in.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: This is how we process emotion.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: This reptilian brain keeps us safe, like I said, for survival.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna say this.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: So everything comes in for our to us.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: We 42 million bits of information comes in at one time, and our brain has to be really quick.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: So the thalamus' job says I need to get all this information to every region of the brain as quickly as I can.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: And because we're so adaptive, and because our main goal is to survive, the information goes from our thalamus down first to those lower regions.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_00: Do you see how close the thalamus is to the amygdala, which is the on-off switch, to the hippocampus, which is our memory, and to the hypothalamus, which sends out our stress response.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_00: Very close, right?
• 39:50
  SPEAKER_00: And the pathways that go from our thalamus to the sphere center of our brain are wide, and the information travels very quick.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like you're on I-70, going 80, right?
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then the see that direction up there where we get to the prefrontal cortex, the thinking brain, the reasoning brain.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: The information, those pathways are very narrow, and the information travels slowly.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_00: And this is by design so that we can get the information, our subconscious can sort through everything.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: And what it does, it goes to the thalamus, and then it goes to the amygdala and says, Hey, do we have anything to be concerned about?
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: That person's frowning at us, or they're not looking at us, or this room is crowded.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: And how do we determine that?
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, how do we determine that?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: Is it consults our memory.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: The amygdala says, Hey, hippocampus, what do you know about this?
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: What's in the memory?
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: What do we know about crowded places?
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: What do we know about angry voices?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_00: What do we know about vulnerability?
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: What do we know about sadness?
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: What do we know about this strange pit in my stomach I have, right?
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's a story.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: There's a story that goes in.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: There's a story that's in that hippocampus that says, this is the story, this is what fireworks mean for you, this is what pop, pop, pop means to you.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_00: It can be very different, right?
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_00: And that story will say, yes, it's a danger if you have a pleasant experience, a pleasant memory, a pleasant blueprint.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: And if you don't, then the hippocampus says, yep, it's danger.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: The amygdala says, it's on.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: The hypothalamus sends cholesterol to your blood to thicken it up so that you don't die very quickly if you were to bleed out.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_00: It sends all the uh blood to your arms and your legs so you could fight off an intruder or you could run and you could get away.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_00: It empties your digestion of it of the blood.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: It goes to your arms and your legs, so then it halts our digestion because you don't really need to think about lunch if you're gonna be lunch, right?
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: So it does all these really cool things.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: It makes us, it gives us tunnel vision, it just blocks out everything else, and there is no reasoning with it.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: You cannot reason out of anxiety, you cannot reason out of fear.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter what you learned, it doesn't matter what you read, it matters in that moment that your brain says you need to get out of a dangerous situation.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: And so this is the trauma, this is I trauma is my specialty, and so that's you know, really what I um I think about the spear part of the brain a lot.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I've never really been a terribly anxious person, but um in 2018 our daughter had a head injury, and um you know it was just one of those things that happens.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: Silver Dollar City is a roller coaster, and um I remember about a year later, you know, I'd be up at night and uh praying, taking her ice packs, and um, most of the time I'd find him up because when you he had some neurology background, and when your daughter is that sick, and it was like, I don't know if any of you have had a migraine, but it's like she had a migraine, a terrible migraine.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um and she couldn't balance, she couldn't really go come upstairs, she couldn't handle conversation or to talk, so she just lay in bed in the dark with ice packs 24-7, and then it'd been four weeks, and then it'd been six weeks, and then it'd been three months, and um the MRI, they say, Oh, if she's normal, and like she was playing competitive volleyball two months ago and she got straight A's, and now you know she she can't do anything.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I remember I mean that I mean, yeah, just like it was really uh discouraging because there was nothing to say, she looked fine, right?
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: Just like so many people I know that are struggling.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like Josh looked fine, they look fine, and yet they're they've got this battle going on and no one can see.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: And and I remember one morning um he'd listen to these lectures all the time, and I didn't couldn't make sense.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Of anyone, and occasionally he'd like put an earphone in my ear and say, Listen to this, listen to this, doesn't this sound like her?
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I listen, and one morning he put the earphone in and he said, Listen to this.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: And the guy said, and there was this 15-year-old girl, and she got on a roller coaster, and I was like, This happened to someone else.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like someone else has brain injury.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: She was diagnosed with post-concussion syndrome, which can go on for years and can be irreversible.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: They don't know.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's just kind of one of those diagnoses, well, you have this and we have no nothing to offer you.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: And and the neurologist had told us, I'd gone, and he's met with her for two hours, and I said, Well, you know, we're taking her to Omaha for functional rehab, and you know, they're doing all these things with her, and they've written a referral for mail, and he looked at me and he said, You're wasting your time.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I said, And he said, Um, you have three things.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can keep doing what you're doing.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_00: You can try magnesium, sometimes that helps.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_00: She was already on magnesium.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: And um, but you know, you could just put her on an antidepressant because anybody that lives in pain like this is going to be depressed.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think she's depressed now, but she will be.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_00: And so that's what we were left with.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_00: And we had her on a wait list at Mayo, and um, but we've been listening to this doctor who specialized in genetics, and we're on his wait list, and just so hopeful.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember we got in, and it'd been about 11 months since her injury, and uh we were in the hotel.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_00: She and I flew down there, and we were in the hotel, and you know, I was excited.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: I was I was as down as I had ever been at that point, and not nearly as low as I would be about a year later, when she still wasn't, you know, back to what we were hoping was her normal.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: And um, the night before, all I could think of was I was just I'm an optimistic person, I was really hopeful.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: I was sure that he was gonna see her and say, This is the deal, and here's what you're gonna do.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, she's gonna be back to school anytime now.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: She'd been about, like I said, about a year.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: And all I could think about was her.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: All I could think about was her and figuring out what in the heck was going on in her brain.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: And so the next day we're in the appointment, he's like a celebrity to me uh because I've been listening to his lectures and we've gotten in, I'm so thankful to be there.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then he starts talking about dopamine, and he starts talking about her amygdala, and he starts talking about the fear response, and you know, and she's there for a head injury, and uh I said, Well, I'm a therapist and I deal with trauma.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: Is this like this is the same thing?
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_00: And he said, Yeah, it's all inflammation.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: I never heard anybody say that, that all chronic mental illness has inflammation in the central nervous system, and you need to figure out how to turn it off.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: And it was like, oh my goodness.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so I went home that night and I was laying in the hotel bed, and I'm still just really, really hopeful for her.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: But all these people are going through my mind, all these people that I've worked with, all these people that I didn't know why, and thinking, could there be something else?
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: Could there be other things?
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_00: Could there be physical reasons?
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm I look through the lens of psychology and trauma.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: And so hearing that was just like an aha.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: And when, you know, when I heard that Josh took his life, I thought, oh, like there's still something people don't know, and I know what it feels like to be hopeless.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: We're near hopeless.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: I still had hope because no one had said this has happened and she's never gonna be any better.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: I just thought there is somebody, somebody knows something.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody knows something more than this.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: There has to be a reason.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: I always want to know why.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, that's where you know I really came to understand that there's this other component and that the body really does influence the things in our brain just like our mind does.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm gonna hand it over to my husband because he knows about the body, and so let him explain a little bit more about that.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_02: Am I on?
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so she talked about the psychology of it, and tonight I kind of want to bring some awareness on some some things that uh we discovered along the way, and that was uh genetics and food.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_02: So genes and food.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna talk about this because sometimes it's not the brain, maybe it's the body.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_02: So we're gonna go into this, and hopefully, you learned something tonight you can take home and share with someone else.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: So first we're gonna talk about genes.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_02: These they're just a few definitions.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna kind of give it, keep it simple so that we can understand this.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you have about 25,000 genes in a human.
• 48:41
  SPEAKER_02: Your genes contain instructions, they tell the cells to make molecules called proteins, okay?
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_02: So these proteins they perform various functions in your body and they keep you healthy.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_02: So everything's running, A goes to B, everything's good, right?
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_02: So that's how we're gonna take it.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_02: Proteins, um, an enzyme is a type of a protein found within a cell.
• 49:02
  SPEAKER_02: Enzymes create chemical reactions within the body.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_02: I won't read it all, but one thing goes to another.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_02: As long as the enzyme's working, everything goes as planned, no problem.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_02: But the problem is these little things called SNPs, they're called single nucleotide polymorphisms.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_02: Fancy word, but they're called SNPs.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_02: What happens is these create, they're they're throughout your DNA and they just kind of happen.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's like a typo.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_02: So all these letters are trying to match up with your DNA.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, every now and then you get a typo, and an A goes where C should go or whatever.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's just not right.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_02: So that creates a lot of problems, and we're gonna talk about that.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_02: So this is this means something to me, so I'll tell this story about this.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_02: I had a young lady who was very healthy, young, and very outgoing, and she came in to see me and she had anxiety.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I just knew she had really bad anxiety, didn't know why, so I thought, okay, we're just gonna treat this like anxiety, we're gonna look there.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we're gonna do.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_02: Well, as I'm talking to her, I'm saying, so what what what causes anxiety?
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_02: And she's like, you know, she was embarrassed.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_02: You could tell she almost didn't want to tell me.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_02: She said she almost wasn't gonna tell me.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_02: Now, this is very pivotal because what she told me was she had gas and bloating and an urge to go to the bathroom sometimes where she couldn't wait.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_02: Now you can think she's about 18, 19 years old, and this is happening.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_02: She's popular, she's very outgoing, and this really bothered her.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_02: She was into sports and all that, and because it was getting bad to where she was embarrassed.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_02: So that is what caused the anxiety.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_02: Now that's pivotal because when I ran the test on her, I ran a gene test on her, this gene came up.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_02: This is an MCM uh six gene, and what that is, guess what that is?
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_02: That is dairy.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_02: You can't break down lactose because you don't have the enzyme lactase.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: Okay?
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_02: So remember how the enzymes work?
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_02: We go through there, it goes from one to the other.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you could see how this could be a huge problem.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_02: This girl could have gone her whole life and had this anxiety and this problem and may have not got fixed.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_02: And I just ran a test on her and said, Well, here's your problem, here's what it is.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: And she got off dairy and I never really saw her again.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_02: I saw her one time after that, and she was doing great, haven't seen her since.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_02: So that's just one example of genes.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_02: And we're gonna get into a few more.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_02: I don't have time to go over a bunch of them, but I'll go over a few and then we'll have questions.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this gene is very common in people with anxiety.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, it's called a COMT gene, it's catecholomethyl transferase, it degrades your neurotransmitters, okay?
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_02: So what happens is if the neurotransmitters gather in your brain and you can't clear them out because you don't have this enzyme, well, guess what?
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_02: You have anxiety.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's not just in your head.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's literally in your head.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can't clear it out.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_02: But no one looks at this.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_02: They don't know.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_02: This is one of the main genes.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: So if you're negative, so if you're negative, that means you didn't get the you you're not gonna have anxiety, you're probably gonna be okay.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_02: But if you got one from mom and one from dad, you have a probability of it being a problem.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: If you got both positive, now those are the people that have prolonged and increased episodes of anxiety.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_02: So they're anxious all the time.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_02: You've seen them.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: Uh they're just anxious, they just look anxious.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_02: Well, a lot of them have this gene.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_02: And there are things you can do for this gene, but we can't go into that right now, but there are things you can do.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_02: So this is one of the most common ones.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_02: Another one, it's called a GAD one.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's glutamic acid decarboxylase.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_02: Now, another gene, what happens here is these people can't break down glutamate.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_02: Glutamate is excitatory, we need that.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like my glutamate's working right now because it has to be.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_02: And tonight, when I go to bed, it'll go to GABA.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: That calms me down.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_02: So glutamate is the gas pedal, and GABA is the brakes.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_02: Okay?
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_02: Now, the way it works is it should flow right down there.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_02: If you have the enzyme, glutamic acid decarboxylase, guess what?
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_02: You don't have a problem.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_02: You sleep like a baby, you're calm, everything's good.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_02: But if you don't have that enzyme, you get excited and you have increased anxiety, decreased focus, trouble sleeping, tight muscles, you're tight, you can't calm down, uh, and you're prone to addictions.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_02: Because if your brain's excited, what are you looking for?
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: You're looking for a way to calm it down.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_02: What usually calms it down?
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_02: Drugs, alcohol.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_02: So these people tend to be addicts sometimes.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_02: Now, if you go to GABA, GABA's the calming one.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_02: You're calm, you're focused, you're relaxed, you sleep well, no problem.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_02: So you can see how critical this enzyme is.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_02: And it gets mistaking, mistaken as anxiety.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_02: But here's the deal.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_02: One of the things that can cause it is monosodium glutamate.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_02: Now, what is monosodium glutamate?
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's in a lot of your foods, Chinese food, for one.
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_02: It's loaded with MSG, okay?
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um, chips, snacks, soups, frozen meals, processed meats, okay?
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna tell a story about this.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_02: My son, he's a pretty good athlete, and we were going to play basketball at uh Sport Zone.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_02: He was about 11, I think, at the time.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_02: And we went over and we ate at Panda Express.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_02: You guys know where Panda Express is.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_02: We went over there and we ate.
• 54:44
  SPEAKER_02: No big deal.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_02: We didn't think anything about it.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_02: And go to the game, and he, I was there, Rochelle wasn't there.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_02: He had the worst game ever.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_02: It looked like he didn't know what he was doing.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_02: And after the game, I walked up to him and I was like, hey, buddy, what happened?
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_02: It looked like you're having a hard time out there.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_02: He goes, Dad, my brain was not working.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_02: That's all he said.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_02: He's alive.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_02: He goes, My brain wasn't working.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_02: It was like I didn't know what to do.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_02: I couldn't figure it out.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, okay.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, at the time I wasn't studying this stuff, so I didn't know it.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_02: But that's what it'll do to you.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_02: They call it Chinese restaurant syndrome.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_02: So you'll feel really good while you're eating it because it's gonna give you that high.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_02: But later on, after you eat that Chinese food, you're gonna feel really bad.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: You may get anxious, have a hard time sleeping, have a hard time concentrating, be irritable.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: So that's another gene that gets mistaken a lot of times.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um now, the next thing I was gonna talk about is pharmacogenomics.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_02: Pharmacogenomics is a test that you can run on people, and what it does is it tells them what medication is right for you and which one isn't.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_02: So your body, how it metabolizes that medicine.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_02: If your body can metabolize it and utilize it, then you're gonna benefit from it.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_02: But let's say your body can't metabolize it.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't you want to know that?
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because if you read on some of those drugs, it'll say symptoms may get worse, right?
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_02: So if you were on an antidepressant, let's just say, and it wasn't working for you, because you don't want the ones in the red.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_02: You want the ones in the green.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_02: You don't even want the ones in the yellow, because it could go there.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_02: So this is critical, I think, and most people should know this, but they don't really test for it.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_02: I've had a few patients that their doctors do test for it, and they know what medication to be on.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, usually when I run it on them, there's always they're always on a wrong medication, and I just say, here, take it, talk to your doctor, they understand it and they'll they'll they'll follow it because this is your genetics.
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_02: This is telling you whether or not you can break down those medications.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_02: Doesn't matter whether it's a medication for heartburn or a medication for depression.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_02: So this is good.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um here's we're gonna talk about food too, because I gotta kind of go through this kind of fast.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_02: But when you test for food, it's the same way.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_02: I can tell what foods are inflammatory, and if these are inflammatory, it can affect your brain, can affect your joints, can affect your stomach, can make you tired, you can get fibromyalgia, be sore, you just you don't feel right.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but this is the one thing that brought me into this field was food, and it was by accident.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_02: So what happened was I went to the doctor for a regular checkup, blood, doing some blood work, and they found that my thyroid was off.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_02: Didn't know that.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_02: Found my thyroid was off, and said, Okay, well, what we'll do is we'll just put you on some medication, we'll check you in six months, you should be fine.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_02: Well, six months goes by, guess what?
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_02: They checked me again, wasn't fine.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, it got worse.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_02: It went it got worse.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_02: So said, Okay, well, up your medication, check it again in six months, and see where you are.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_02: You should it should go down.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_02: Checked it again, didn't go down, still hovering around the same.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_02: In the meantime, this is kind of what was going on, and this is what I'm gonna open up to you guys is I'm coming down with like a mood disorder.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm getting really moody.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_02: I have three kids, and I have a wife who's a therapist, and I'm moody.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_02: So it's not a really good combination because she's gonna call me out on it, right?
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_02: And it got to the point where it was getting pretty bad, and I needed to get help for it.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_02: But I still had this thyroid thing, and I hadn't put everything together yet.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_02: So I call a guy that I knew who was a naturopath, and I said, you know, my thyroid was off.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, what do I, what can I do?
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_02: He's like, Well, you know, did they check these antibodies?
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, I don't know, no, I don't think so.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_02: He goes, Well, get these antibodies checked, and if these antibodies come back positive, call me.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_02: So I checked the antibodies.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_02: They're supposed to be under 39.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_02: Mine were 1,100.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_02: 1100.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_02: That's high.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_02: So call him up and say, hey, they're high, they're like 1100.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_02: He goes, Oh my goodness.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_02: I don't even know if I've seen them that high.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, okay.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_02: So he says, Yeah, you need to, you have Hashimoto's, you need to get off gluten.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I didn't believe in gluten, I didn't believe in the food stuff.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_02: And just a few years earlier, this is the funny thing.
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_02: I went down to a seminar in Texas, in Dallas, and it was on food, and they were they were training medical providers on food and all these things.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I remember after the first day I came out of there and I looked at Rochelle and got in the car and I said, These guys are crazy.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_02: And she's like, What?
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_02: I said, They think food causes all a bunch of problems.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_02: And at the time, I laughed at it, kind of forgot about it, went on.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_02: Well, then this happens to me.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_02: So then as I'm going through this mood disorder and I'm becoming very moody, she knows that I have this gluten thing, what I need to do.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_02: And I have a really bad episode one night.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_02: Not real bad, just you know, wasn't good.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_02: And so I knew at that point, I was like, okay, I better get this dressed.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_02: She's like, what are you waiting for?
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_02: You need to, you need to get this look, you need to start.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_02: Get off gluten.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_02: So I did.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_02: And when I got off gluten, and trust me, I was eating every meal had gluten in it.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be the last guy to get off gluten.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_02: I made fun of guys for that, okay?
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_02: That's who I was.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_02: And here's the deal.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_02: So I go and I get off gluten.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_02: I'm off of it for two weeks.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_02: Only two weeks.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_02: It usually takes longer.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, woohoo, what?
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I just I want to feel like this.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_02: What is this?
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_02: This is what I want.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_02: This is the feeling I want.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to feel anxious, I don't want to feel moody, I don't feel depressed.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_02: I want this.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_02: This is the feeling, right?
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_02: So when people say food isn't the problem, I beg to differ.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_02: And we can test it.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_02: No one's have you guys ever seen this before?
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_02: Probably not.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_02: No one talks about it.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_02: So it can be tested.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_02: So on this one I picked in particular because this is gluten-associated cross-reactive foods.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm gonna get in the weeds for a second.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_02: But when you're talking about gluten, it's just not wheat, rye, or barley.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_02: All these foods can act like gluten.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_02: All of them.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_02: So, if luckily for me, it was just gluten.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_02: But I've had some people that have had other issues.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_02: Had a lady who was gluten-free for 20 years, had celiac, but guess what?
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_02: We ran this test and rice showed up, and a protein and milk showed up.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_02: Dairy and gluten are very similar.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_02: So if you got that, you can't have dairy, you can't have gluten.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_02: But this test will tell you because it's looking for antibodies.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_02: So it's saying, hey, you have these antibodies, your body is having a reaction to this.
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  SPEAKER_02: So the test doesn't lie.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now, can they go back down if you get off the foods?
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  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: But that's a whole other story.
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  SPEAKER_02: But so this stuff does exist.
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  SPEAKER_02: So what I'm here to say is, you know, it affects me.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've seen it affect a lot of people, and it's just small changes you have to make.
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  SPEAKER_02: The gluten's easy to pick on because that seems to be the topic right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um so what I would say is I'll have suggestions.
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  SPEAKER_02: My suggestions are pay attention to your body.
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  SPEAKER_02: Pay attention when you feel moody, when you can't sleep, or you have a hard time concentrating, or you feel sore or groggy.
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  SPEAKER_02: One of the things I noticed was I would just wake up in the morning, it's just hard for me to wake up.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was just, it well, I didn't feel right.
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  SPEAKER_02: I was just kind of brain fogged, you know, I was moody, couldn't concentrate.
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  SPEAKER_02: So know your body.
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  SPEAKER_02: The other one is focus on whole foods.
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  SPEAKER_02: It sounds easy, but people say, Well, what do you eat?
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  SPEAKER_02: What do I eat?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just eat lean meats, fruits, and vegetables.
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  SPEAKER_02: That'll clean you up, that'll that'll help with a lot of inflammation.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's a good start.
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  SPEAKER_02: The other is exercise.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying you have to exercise for an hour a day or anything like that, probably just 20 minutes if you could just do that, walk even three or four times a week.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, the other one's regular sleep.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can get seven to eight hours of sleep, that's pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, but you know, you can't do four hours work of the night shift or skipping sleep.
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  SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's bad.
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  SPEAKER_02: The other one is if I had three, these are the three pillars of things I would tell people if they could do it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Get a multivitamin, get omega-3 fish oil, and vitamin D.
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  SPEAKER_02: A lot of people with depression, then we check them, their vitamin D levels are very, very low, okay?
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  SPEAKER_02: And then a lot of doctors don't believe that vitamin D can cause depression.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying it causes it, but you definitely get them on it and it helps them, okay?
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  SPEAKER_02: So vitamin D levels are low.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then the last one is hydration.
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  SPEAKER_02: Drink a lot of water, take care of yourself.
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  SPEAKER_02: So these are some things I just put it out there so you guys have it and you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because to be quite honest, if I hadn't got help and I hadn't got off gluten, I wouldn't be up here tonight and I probably wouldn't be married to her anymore.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's the truth.
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  SPEAKER_02: So it can really change your life, and you don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: I didn't know Josh that well, but you know, if he would have known this stuff, maybe things would have been different, that's all.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so we're trying to get this out to you guys so everybody can have this information, and there's a lot of resources here at the church, so use them.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um Doug Will's one of the nicest guys I know, so um he he's open to talking to everybody, and I'm sure Jim is too, and Connor.
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  SPEAKER_02: But they really go out of their way to make a difference.
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  SPEAKER_02: So this is kind of my story, giving it to you, letting you know that it could be genetics, it could be food, it maybe just it's not in your head.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and if any of this sounds familiar, you know, just take note, and hopefully um this helps.
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  SPEAKER_02: But is there anything and then did you want to follow up?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wouldn't just encourage you and just to um take action, you know, and like we talked about in the beginning, the loneliness and the stigma, and um to not be afraid to reach out or to reach out to someone, you know.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some of you may be here because it's uh a loved one that you know that struggles.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some of you may be here because you've struggled or because you know someone who is or someone in your workplace.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, so many people are lonely, and connection really makes a difference.
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  SPEAKER_00: Letting people know that you care.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like he said, the church has amazing resources, and I'm so glad that they're passionate about things like grief share and divorce care and um even you know the uh sexual um group that they had for sexual impurity.
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  SPEAKER_00: So they really care about issues of helping us live full and healthy lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: So don't stay stuck alone because you're not you're not alone, you're part of a very, very big club of people who um we have you know on this earth things aren't perfect, and we have these things impact us.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we're glad you're here tonight, and we thank you for listening.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go ahead.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks so much.
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  SPEAKER_01: You guys did a great job.