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Episode 6.19: Tale of 2 Games -- Purdue Recap · Return to Glory - Nebraska

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  Speaker 1: Return to Glory podcast hunter Sarberniki here with just a
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  Speaker 1: code of free Tech.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Austin is out following the Huskers dominant in air quotes
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  Speaker 1: performance against Purdue, winning twenty eight to ten in West Lafayette,
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  Speaker 1: moving to four and one on the season. I did
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  Speaker 1: not get a chance to watch the game. I listened
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  Speaker 1: to most all of it and watched the highlights. Was
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  Speaker 1: running the market to market. Why I sign up for
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  Speaker 1: that every year, I don't know, but basically we run
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  Speaker 1: as a team from Omaha to Lincoln. Yeah, so, Dak,
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  Speaker 1: you might have watched more. You probably did watch more
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  Speaker 1: of the game than I did this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you were doing something a little bit more functional.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing all day. But yeah, I did end
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  Speaker 2: up watching the game. Would you call it a dominant win?
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm putting it in air quotes. It's it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was an interesting tale of two teams in two games.
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  Speaker 1: I guess all inside one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you moved the ball. Moved the ball well the
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  Speaker 2: whole I was. I was sitting with my buddy and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, it feels like Nebraska on the
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  Speaker 2: opponent forty this whole game, and it felt like you
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  Speaker 2: were just there at that same spot, no man's land,
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  Speaker 2: thirty to forty our line the whole game.
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  Speaker 1: That was definitely a storyline, especially early on, and it
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  Speaker 1: just sounded like on the radio, it always just seemed
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  Speaker 1: like we were right at the thirty five, the forty,
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  Speaker 1: the thirty yep close to field goal range, but as
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  Speaker 1: we know from Nebraska kickers not probably in field goal range.
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  Speaker 1: So it felt like we were moved moving the ball
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  Speaker 1: okay like you said, but just couldn't execute when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to points. I didn't tell Dak this episode that
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  Speaker 1: he needs to open up and share his feelings because
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  Speaker 1: he has more time to talk. So Dak is really
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  Speaker 1: gonna give the insights today, open up about all of
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  Speaker 1: his feelings. He even mentioned his love life at one point,
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  Speaker 1: and he can talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: So we're really talk about oh you were, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the people really want to hear your
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  Speaker 1: about your love life.
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  Speaker 2: We we ain't getting that far and then we don't
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  Speaker 2: have time for that. We don't got days.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it showed the first drive how much
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  Speaker 2: how little you trust your kicker off the bat, you
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  Speaker 2: punt the ball in the thirty four yard line on
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  Speaker 2: and that's just showing you don't trust your kicker at all.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, fifty one yards for us is right now,
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  Speaker 1: that's the ways and and it sucks because I mean
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  Speaker 1: we all, we all, I'll know the state of where
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  Speaker 1: we're at and then we'll get to the field goal
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  Speaker 1: kicks after that. But I was watching Virginia Tech Miami
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  Speaker 1: Friday night, and you know, Virginia Tech's got a guy
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  Speaker 1: that comes out and just buries two fifty plus yarders.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, these kickers are out there, like, don't tell
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  Speaker 1: me that we can't pay a kicker to come to
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  Speaker 1: Nebraska and maybe a long snapper and a holder, whatever
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  Speaker 1: package we need to get to make field goals in
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  Speaker 1: games that we need to. Now, it didn't come down
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  Speaker 1: to costing us a win, but they definitely have. So
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  Speaker 1: while we did win, I want to remind people that
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  Speaker 1: there's still things that we need to be very concerned about.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's easy to nitpick and go through the
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  Speaker 1: ifs and the specific plays of what we did wrong
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  Speaker 1: when you lose, because you like to analyze it more.
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  Speaker 1: But then when you win, I will say, generally, as fans,
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  Speaker 1: we don't do that as much. Now the coaches, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure are good coaching staffs know how to properly go
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  Speaker 1: back and communicate that to their players. But as fans,
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  Speaker 1: we kind of said, Okay, we won, Yeah, special team sucked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah we had some penalties, but well it's okay, we
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  Speaker 1: won the game. I just want a caveat. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Purview's a very good football team.
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  Speaker 2: No, you said this yesterday. Do you actually not have
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  Speaker 2: a special team kicker or coach? We do, okay, you do? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you black guy. How that guy has a job? No clue,
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  Speaker 2: no clue that guy's a job. I mean he might
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  Speaker 2: have well not even have showed up yesterday. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: no call, no show right there. That was one of
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  Speaker 2: the worst kicking I've ever saw in a game.
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  Speaker 1: That's fascinating, though, You say that because I mean, you're well,
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  Speaker 1: you are a Nebraska fan more than an Oklahoma fan,
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  Speaker 1: but you're not a die hard Nebraska fan. And just
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  Speaker 1: from the outsider's perspective, you, I mean you can fall
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  Speaker 1: back on the coach and say, well, special teams have
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  Speaker 1: been bad again. Nebraska fans are tired of it. We
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  Speaker 1: have done the okay, get into special teams coach before maybe.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I guess you're he's the one responsible.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, like kicking is a unique
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  Speaker 1: position that, yeah, you teach it, and from what it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of these guys are doing their
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  Speaker 1: own type of training and coaching. It's the mental side
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  Speaker 1: and well snapping. I don't I mean, I don't, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. It's just it's puzzling. We you know, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about bringing in Brett Maher to help work with them.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a culmination of a lot of things. I
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  Speaker 1: think you got to still boost confidence into those guys.
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  Speaker 1: But man, it's it's not good. It's not good at all. No.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like said mentally, I think this guy, this
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  Speaker 2: guy's gotta be damn mentally shot already.
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  Speaker 1: Like we he just started kicking, right yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And those and those kicks got locked or I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of on your own line, kind of your
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  Speaker 2: holder that and of the best naps either. But he
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  Speaker 2: kicked them so low. They're short kicks. Those you kick high.
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  Speaker 2: He kicked them so low they they not even it
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  Speaker 2: was halfway at the person's body where they blocked the kicks.
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  Speaker 1: It was like it's not like it was a yeah,
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  Speaker 1: great defensive play to get to.
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  Speaker 2: Kicked them like they're fifty yards like he was trying
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  Speaker 2: to drive them.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, and I don't know, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: enough about kicking routines to say if the snap's bad
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  Speaker 1: and the holes, but I think that was what the
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  Speaker 1: message was to me. If you're the kicker from what
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  Speaker 1: my high school football holding days that I had, like,
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  Speaker 1: if you're the kicker, you're just you're you don't give
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  Speaker 1: a shit about what the whole the snap in the hold,
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  Speaker 1: your you have your routine, you do it on pace
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  Speaker 1: and you go like the ball's not there. Then you're
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  Speaker 1: swinging at air type of deal like you're not worried
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  Speaker 1: about the other pieces. So to that point, Dak, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right, it's low. But I think the argument is
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  Speaker 1: that the bad snap, hold, whatever can play a actor
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  Speaker 1: into your approach. So if there's any specialists out there,
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  Speaker 1: kicker specialists, I can confirm what I just said, let
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  Speaker 1: me know, or maybe just go put a uniform on
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  Speaker 1: and kick. Maybe that's what we need.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're ready, you're talking about holding, Why holding the ball?
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  Speaker 2: Why the kicker is not like the laces out I've
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  Speaker 2: never figured.
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  Speaker 1: That out rotation thing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, which which the other the holds were just
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  Speaker 2: laces were never out, they were just bobbled holes. And
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  Speaker 2: he got it. He got the holder, had the ball
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  Speaker 2: up there like set pretty well for the kick.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, when you say out, you want the laces away
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  Speaker 1: from your foot, like yeah, yeah, yep, you're you're saying
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to you want the laces out. You
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  Speaker 1: don't want them, and you don't want to hit the
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  Speaker 1: laces and you prefer you want the laces like if
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  Speaker 1: you're a right footed kicker, face left.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, And so the holds end up being end
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  Speaker 2: up being pretty good for him bottling a round. But
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  Speaker 2: that's just straight up on your kicker. I think I
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  Speaker 2: was talking to someone else today about it, and they're like,
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I say this, but I really want
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  Speaker 2: Avana back.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I mean he's gonna come back off an injury.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think the question, now, this is one
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  Speaker 1: big talking point this week. It was even during the
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  Speaker 1: game and maybe even before the game. At what point
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  Speaker 1: do you say we're not kicking field goals? And is
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  Speaker 1: there a threshold of saying we're only doing it, we're
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  Speaker 1: inside the ten yard line and it's fourth and seven.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think that's something we have to be
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  Speaker 1: considering right now moving forward, because especially if it's fourth
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  Speaker 1: and less than five anywhere in field goal range, your
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  Speaker 1: odds of converting are probably going to be better than
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  Speaker 1: what we've seen so far. Not saying things can't flip around,
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  Speaker 1: but what have we proven to shown that we can
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  Speaker 1: make a forty two yarder? It with anybody? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: all units, kicker, hold, snap, all of it, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I don't know what the answer.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that is why the coaches get paid the
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  Speaker 1: big bucks to make those decisions. I know, I said
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  Speaker 1: it after the second one, like just go for it,
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  Speaker 1: But hell one is fourth and nine, like on the
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  Speaker 1: twenty two yard line. I mean, what do you do
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  Speaker 1: for that? I mean, I guess you know now.
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  Speaker 2: And it ain't liked had the greatest special teams in
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  Speaker 2: the show either. That guy sucked with him too. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't even hit the net on his kick. It was
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  Speaker 2: just awful around they so they haven't figured out the
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  Speaker 2: kicking position either.
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  Speaker 1: That was the first field goal attempt this year so far, believe.
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  Speaker 2: It or not, Really did they just join the team
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  Speaker 2: or what the hell happened?
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  Speaker 1: Then kicked yet have not kicked on yet?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Okay, well okay before I forget about this and
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about later too. Did you see Perdue fither
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator today?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Damn Harold. Yeah, I thought their offense look decent. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I think there's a lot of other stuff
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  Speaker 2: that I worry about.
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  Speaker 1: That's it that you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, pretty sucks. The big time sucks. No.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I would like shout out good for our defense.
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  Speaker 1: Got an offensive coordinator fired. He is not comfortable running
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  Speaker 1: the offense that they're trying to run.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think your aam harrold Is If you guys
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  Speaker 1: remember him, quarterback four or five years at Texas Tech
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  Speaker 1: for Mike Leach. Kind of one of the pioneers, I
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  Speaker 1: would say, of the air raid offense and was damn good.
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  Speaker 1: Never really got anywhere in the NFL. Michael graftfree right yep,
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  Speaker 1: when they had a crabtree. That that's the kind of
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  Speaker 1: offense I think he's familiar with. Perdue doesn't have the
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  Speaker 1: skill players to do that. I mean, clearly, they're wide
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  Speaker 1: receivers were not great. They struggled to even do anything
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  Speaker 1: up front running the ball. That was the concern. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start here with a positive on the defensive
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  Speaker 1: side because there were a lot of positives. We held
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  Speaker 1: Purdue to fifty two yards rushing on the day, and
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  Speaker 1: if we were going to lose this game, that was
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  Speaker 1: the way they were gonna beat us is get a lead, slowly,
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  Speaker 1: just run the clock down, get a couple of first downs,
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  Speaker 1: and muck it up. Well, guess what, we did a
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  Speaker 1: great job of stuffing it. Both Macaby and Reggie Love
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  Speaker 1: are good running backs. I mean they're they're not world beaters,
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  Speaker 1: but they're solid, good running backs in the Big Ten.
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  Speaker 1: And then we did a good job on Hudson card
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  Speaker 1: as well. So overall, the defense did what they needed
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  Speaker 1: to do and it looked like they had that chip
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  Speaker 1: back on their shoulder. Five sacks on the day, the
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  Speaker 1: big pick six that obviously put the nail on the
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  Speaker 1: coffin if it wasn't already at the time. The defense
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  Speaker 1: played with some fire under them, and that was that
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  Speaker 1: was good to see because we're gonna need to see
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  Speaker 1: that game after game here in the Big Ten produce
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  Speaker 1: not a great football team, but it was good to
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  Speaker 1: get a little momentum back and it wins a win.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the word should when you say we should
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  Speaker 1: win a game, right, like mhm what I also, I'll
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  Speaker 1: word it this way to you cause I want you
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  Speaker 1: to answer this question, Dak. I would say if you
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  Speaker 1: asked every Nebraska fan and probably every Purdue fan heading
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  Speaker 1: into that game, and you just asked a simple question,
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  Speaker 1: yes or no, you can't answer any other way. What
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  Speaker 1: does it or is Nebraska better than Purdue?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, every single one would say yes.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is saying yes, unless you're just.
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  Speaker 2: A debbie downert it.
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  Speaker 1: You tell me what does being better mean? Like, get
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  Speaker 1: behind that word better.
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  Speaker 2: Skill wise by about times ten coaching you. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody there would take that rule over I
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  Speaker 2: game or what their coach name is. But I want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about him later too. For sure, just every
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  Speaker 2: part of Nebraska is better. Besides, you know, we talked
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  Speaker 2: about the beginning Cacker, which which that might be a
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  Speaker 2: dead tie. They both suck, but so yeah, mostly skilled
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  Speaker 2: players that you think your talent should be able to
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  Speaker 2: beat Purdue no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: I think, talent is the word that a majority of
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  Speaker 1: people go to when you say which team is better? Right,
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  Speaker 1: You're not, You're not. There's a lot of other things
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  Speaker 1: that could factor into that. When you say we have
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  Speaker 1: the better team, you're saying that our talent is better.
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  Speaker 1: Now what are you basing that off of when people
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  Speaker 1: say that, like recruiting stars, Because we've had this discussion
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast how recruiting stars are great in high school,
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  Speaker 1: but that that comes with potential and development, which then
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  Speaker 1: factors in coaching. So that makes it in there. I
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  Speaker 1: guess you could just say, like if you're just watching
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  Speaker 1: the eye test, like as far as who has better talent,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I would I would say
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  Speaker 1: the Nebraska fans over these past few years would say
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  Speaker 1: we have had better talent than Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers Northwest,
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  Speaker 1: or Michigan State Maryland. We would say we have better
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  Speaker 1: talent than them. But yet, yeah, we lose a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these games. So what I kind of why I
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  Speaker 1: like this discussion is because ultimately, when you say you're
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  Speaker 1: better than the other team, that means you should win.
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  Speaker 1: You should be winning that football game. I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 1: nine times out of ten times, if you're saying you
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  Speaker 1: we have better talent, now, obviously if it's oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: close in talent, but we maybe we're a little better,
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  Speaker 1: which I think might be the case.
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  Speaker 2: Like like your game last week.
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  Speaker 1: Last week, and come this next week.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say it's about dead even on talent, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So then you say, you know, are we better than Rutgers?
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  Speaker 1: I think we'll find out. You're yeah, We're gonna find
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  Speaker 1: out you're you're Kuli drinkers are gonna go, yeah, we are.
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  Speaker 1: We definitely do. Your pessimistics are gonna say, well, yeah, duh,
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  Speaker 1: and then we're that's why we're gonna beat them sarcastically,
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  Speaker 1: So it's yeah, we're gonna find out, and ultimately we're better.
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  Speaker 1: Just comes down to winning, right. So if someone says, well, no,
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  Speaker 1: we've been better than Purdue in the last six years,
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  Speaker 1: have we before? They beat us? Four out of the
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  Speaker 1: last six years they've been the better football team, and
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  Speaker 1: four of those six years. That's what the word better
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  Speaker 1: means is winning games. So we can talk about talent.
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  Speaker 1: I like how you said we'll find out. We will
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  Speaker 1: find out in all these games if we are better
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  Speaker 1: than Rutgers, if we're better than Indiana, who's now rated
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  Speaker 1: and undefeated, Ruggers, who's undefeated beating Washington. We were better
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  Speaker 1: than Purdue this year, we were not better than Illinois.
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  Speaker 1: Now maybe going into the game we said we were better,
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  Speaker 1: but we worked.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get in the Rutgers on Wednesday. But very surprised
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  Speaker 2: you don't have a ranked opponent coming to town next week.
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  Speaker 2: I thought for sure they'd be ranked. Your next one
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  Speaker 2: after that is in the rankings. But what the heck
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  Speaker 2: has happened to produce talent like you're talking about? They
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  Speaker 2: used to two years ago they had Aman O'Connell and
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  Speaker 2: then I cannot remember their fast wi see you guys
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  Speaker 2: weren't a shoot out with him. Now they can't do
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  Speaker 2: jack shit on either side of the ball. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: maybe their coach has to worry about stop worrying about
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  Speaker 2: himself in the weight room, and start wearing on players
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  Speaker 2: that dude is jacked up.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna be on him since you didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know his name.
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  Speaker 2: It's Ryan Walters, isn't it. Yeah, okay that he was
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  Speaker 2: jacked up. Not a good coach, but yeah he's jack
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if he's just not reading well
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  Speaker 2: or what happened. But I thought Purdue used to be
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  Speaker 2: a decent team. I always said, be in a battle.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jeff Brohm did a really good thing for
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  Speaker 1: that program. He obviously took the job at Louisville and
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Walters came in two years ago. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: these guys are transferring out. I mean Purdue every year.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt like they were the team that had
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  Speaker 1: a passing quarterback, that had one or two like NFL
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  Speaker 1: type receivers, with.
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  Speaker 2: Like receiver two years ago, I'm talking about palm Is
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  Speaker 2: Palmer and Kase Thompson, and then they had they had
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  Speaker 2: one I.
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  Speaker 1: Remember his name, but and then the defensively they always
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  Speaker 1: have an all big ten NFL type d end or linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: I mean every year they do. So a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those guys did transfer out, and you could just tell
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  Speaker 1: their lack of talent I guess from those positions, and
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  Speaker 1: I like it showed. And then to me, that's where, okay,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I'll take a step back before we go into our offense,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: because this game felt like two different games into one
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: just listening to it. Following along, we won twenty eight
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to ten perdue kicks a field goal to go up
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: three to nothing with like six thirty something left, in
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the third quarter and leading up to that point.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Are you crapping yourself? By that point, I.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Think everybody's thinking, oh my gosh, this could be it
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: like not going down real bad doomsday scenario, but a
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: little bit like what in the world is going on?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Like we can't get the run game going, we're not scoring,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: we're special teams. That's horrible. There's a billion penalties getting
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: thrown both ways and perdue. Now just drove ball in
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the field, didn't get a touchdown, which was good, made
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: a field goal, and everybody's like, oh, boy, like I might.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I was saying it at halftime in the first quarter.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, just find a way to win this game.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Find a way to win this game. I who cares
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: if you're not going to look back on it at
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: the end of the year and say, man, we beat
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Purdue by three points. Woof No, just win the game, okay,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: And we get past that point. We responded and finally
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: we started moving the ball, got a few touchdowns, made
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: some halftime adjustments there, even though we got stopped in
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: that first drive, and did what we should have done
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the whole game and the final score twenty eight ten.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna remember this game come into the year.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: We won't. We will not even talk about it because
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: we did what we were supposed to do against a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: team that we were better than in one but it
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: just felt like two different games up until that switch
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: got flipped for us, and then once it happened, everyone's like, Okay,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: we're fine, We're fine, We're good.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Deep breath, you were you were just waiting to score
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that first touchdown to basically after that you felt fine,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: but you just cannot get anywhere near the touchdown mark.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Like I said, you were stuck in I know, man's
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: land for a lot of first half.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But can't can't. Here's my question, after that, Are we fine?
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I guess me? And I'm more confident coming out of
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Than Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like I think we
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: were all in almost deep panic mode and then the
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: game gets over and we're like, okay, like we're good,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: let's move on next week, gotta win, or I mean,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: is there like again, produced not good? I don't think.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think that. I think they're one of the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: worst teams in the Big Ten. I got that from
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Where are we I don't know.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: That's why are we Are we fine? Like? Should we
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: feel okay again?
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I think you can. I think you come
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: out of that. Oh shit, maybe feeling better. I don't
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: know which way I would be leaning, because that felt
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: like a game that we saw a thousand times. Nebraska
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: looks like that on the road, and they've lost that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: game almost every time they've been since they've been to
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Big ten. It looked like same game over and over.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: So maybe we should feel better because we won a
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: game like that. And that goes right into what rules
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: said in the post game how that was a close game,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: felt like it was a close game. We won that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: game in the fourth quarter, yep, facts like that's totally
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: true and we haven't done that. So that part feels good.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: The part that I'm like, what what the heck won?
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Is the run game again?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of died that died out. I don't know.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel. I just I don't
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: know where my where my head's at there. Like Daldell,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: who we thought the beginning of the year was going
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to be this potential workhorse number one back. He was
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: nine carries for two one yards, like two point three
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: yards of carry. That's not good now, Emma Johnson, he
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: did some really good things. Oh Ramier also is under
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: two yards of carry. Emma Johnson did some good things.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And Jacry Barney did some good things as well. And
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Purdue probably stole a little bit out of Illinois playbook
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and said we're gonna stop the run and props because
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: they did for the most part. But man, Dylan Ryola
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: is still a dude, and watching those highlights back, we
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: are I'm probably gonna say this every Sunday Recap pod.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: We are so lucky to have a guy like that because.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Last year's team that hart get shut out that game.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Well we get shut out or the game sept you
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: know six six, three years ninety three, ten to three,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: like that's what the final score. We have a guy
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: back there that can say we're not losing this game
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: and go out and win it, even though it's not great.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: He special throws. I mean, watching some of these highlights
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: back as, I'm like, okay, like Dylan's gonna take care
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: of us in situations like this, But we don't need
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to be in the situation to get taken care of
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: against a team like that. Now, I would hope not
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: in the future.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Now, why do you think your problem is with the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: run game? Is it blocking or is it just the
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: coach give up on the too early because they just
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: give up, like they just say, fucking we're done.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm puzzled by it, someone asked me,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and I thought it was a valid point that it
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: felt like maybe our path protection has been better this year, yeah,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: and our run blocking maybe hasn't. And how those translate
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to each other. I know, the footwork's different, the scheming
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: is a lot different. I just I would think that
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: there'd be a lot of correlation though, between the two,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that if you're decent at one, you're decent at the other.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: It is a little puzzling just because of what we
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: did last year. I think that's the big thing. Like
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: if we didn't have the year last year, which Tossinger
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: oppin was good last year, but we ran the ball
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and everybody knew we were running the ball and we
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: were still able to do it, and then we turned
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it over.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you had to do it last year, right.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: So why why we can't do it this year? That's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: what's a little more puzzling. We do it from the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: younger guys playing it does sound like Gunnar Gatula played well.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Left tackle Masuka TBD. We're gonna hopefully hear more from
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: real tomorrow. Like you said at the end of his
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: press conference.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Is now the one thing about last year though, running
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the ball, you had a running quarterback, So if teams
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: were worried about that, you ain't worried about Royola taken off.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: No, and we tried it. That is a whole nother conversation.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I want to dive into maybe a different episode with
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Rayola and running the ball and everybody's thoughts on it,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: because I want to hear Austin's too. We've tried to
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: put Heinrich in there a little bit this week. Again,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: it's just weird and how we're using them. I still
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: don't really know how I feel about it, like not
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: strong either way. I do like that it probably adds
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: preparation time for the other team. I'm waiting for, like
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the big play to go. We've been doing this all
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: because of this for this one play or two plays.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: This is why we've been doing it. Maybe we'll wait
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: for Ohado State to do that. I don't know. We
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: should be just doing it to win a game, but
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: we still keep throwing him out there here and there.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I do, like, I mean running the quarterback when we can,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Like I think that's a strong part of an offense.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And like if I was had a random football team,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I would that'd be a quarterback. I'd want someone that
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: can run the ball, like the Adrian Martinez is are
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: are of the world are kind of my style. Like
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I like those guys that are better, better runners overall
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: than passers, but can still throw it. But Dylan obviously
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: is not that. He's very, very gifted though in other ways,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: in a lot of ways better than what we've had
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: in the past. For sure, his potential and ceiling is
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: far higher than anything we've had in recent years. And
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I think his leadership capabilities too, I think will pay off.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: And I think maybe we're starting to see that a
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: little bit. I just can't emphasize how important he is
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to this team and how much he does for us.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: It is his stats for what sixteen for twenty five,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I think this week for two hundred and fifty ish
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. Like, he's not putting up gaudy numbers.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: He's not, and he knows he's not. Worried about that.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: That's what I so far love about it. You don't.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You don't see him complaining or saying, oh man, we're
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: not doing this enough for this enough. He's sticking to
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: what the coaches want him to do. And regardless of
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: who we played, were four and one.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Now, let's so, what's your final your final call? Are
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: you more confident or less confident coming out of that game?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I would say, I'd say I'm neutral. I know it's
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a podcast. I'm supposed to take a side and go
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: one way or the other way, but I'm neutral.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: You've been talking. I found that side.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I'm still waiting to see the proof of a big win. Well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: there's a big win, a close win. I'm gonna say
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a close win because you can say this is a
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: close win in the fourth quarter. I get it. And
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: it was a close game. It was a battle the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: second part. We kicked their button it after the six
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: thirty mark in the third quarter. But when you see
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the record in four weeks on the TV that says
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Matt rules record in one score game, this isn't gona
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: account for it. The narrative is still gonna be can
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: we win a one score game? I'm not saying we
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: should a tank. So it was a one score game,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: but no one's gonna think of this game as a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: one score game at the end of the year. It's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: not That narrative is still gonna stick around until we
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: can beat it. And I thought this week might be
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the game that we have to beat it, Like I did,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: think it was going to be a close game, but
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it wasn't and we won by double digits again, So
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I feel I'm neutral on it. I guess is where
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: I'm at. We'll have to see the next couple of games.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind of neutral going in the podcast,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: but I think I'm leaning towards I'd be more worried because,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of factors. Now you find
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: out you can't trust your special teams at all, and
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I think we do is awful. You're the big thing
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: is by your special teams, you got to be crappy
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: or something now because you don't trust anything about that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And then another reason I'd be a little bit worried
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: is Indian Rutgers just keep on looking like they're better
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: than what we all thought in your schedule.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Look, they they're gonna they're gonna be games that set
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: us straight for the year where we're at, they really
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: will be. I think we opened as a six and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: a half point favorite today.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: That's a little high, but yep, I was like, whoa.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: We went all this time? We have not mentioned the
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: refs once and I need to, you know what. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: just feel like that's the topic that everybody's talking about
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: right now, and we haven't had our little refs feel
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: here this year yet. We've been kind of quiet on them.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like this would be a good game to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: have it. There were a lot of penalties. Obviously, the
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: total penalty yards for both teams ended up being here
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: we go. We had We had eleven penalties for ninety
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: four yards and they had thirteen fo one hundred and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: sixty five. Yeah, almost almost two hundred and sixty yards
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of penalties.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Now, I have you gone back and looked at the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: one play I'm sure you love is the past interference?
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the play that everybody's talking about. Yeah, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: rule mentions it talks about it quite a bit. You
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: go back and watch it. He was very upset in
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: mid game during it. They got that play wrong like
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: they did, There's no question about it. They missed it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: The calls to do after that, I think going back
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to the review, you can't review whether contact was made.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: The only thing they could review was whether the ball
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't beyond the line of scrimmage to make it an
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: op insitive PAS interference. That wasn't the case, or that
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: was the case, so it was still a pass interference.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: They messed that one up here. And just to remind
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: people how we think about right at least how I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: think about refs, because there's a whole bunch of opinions
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: out there. People, Oh man, the stadium refs are the worst.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: There's so many of them. There were a lot of
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: penalties called. But when I asked a question, how many
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: calls did they miss? Both ways, both teams, everybody goes
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to that one. Like, again, I didn't watch the game,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: but I am. People tell me what other calls. I mean,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: there's obviously some ones that are judgment calls, But what
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: other calls do you think that they messed up on?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think they. I didn't think they wrapped, like
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: in a terrible game, wrapping all round. That one was awful.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Like if you're the ref and you see that, you
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: can overturn it. You're probably watching it like, oh my god,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I really messed that one up. I don't think they
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: were awful. They didn't let them play at all, Like
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: if you hold someone at all in that game, they're
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: calling that like they need to let them. My thing
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: about the refs is quick trying to make the show
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: about yourself and let let the players play a little
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: bit like it was every play just flag of the play.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: It their penalties.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah, but it's kind of like basketball. You
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: call the game different final two minutes than you do.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Tell me on the almost pass
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: interference as they called them, Brue, tell me which one
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of those weren't pass interference? They were like, So like yeah,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you could argue and say, don't make the game about yourself.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I think if their penalties are penalties.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that just makes team they don't And.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: That's maybe the product of it when when teams aren't
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: very good. This goes to any sport. What happens you're
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: not really doing it on purpose, but you kind of
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: start breaking the rules. You start cheating a little bit
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: because you're not in position to make the play. Now,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the rules comment specifically is talking about that one play.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Guys are are executing the plays and they don't know
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: what to do again one play. I want to know
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: about the others, like we Yes, they're gonna there's gonna
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: be miscalls. That's part of refereeing, like officiating, that's going
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: to happen. There's a lot of judgment in it. But
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: when there's penalties, they're penalties. And I thought Dylan did
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: a great job of identifying that produced dbs. We're not
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: going to ever turn their head and the air and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: man coverage. And I don't know if he was doing
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: it on purpose, but he was under throwing the ball
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: by just two yards, which is what an NFL quarterback
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: would do. So our guy had to stop and come
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: back to the ball. Boom PI. Not saying that's the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: best strategy to move the ball on offense, but hey,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: guess what, it's fifteen yards.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I forgot about them not during your head. So so
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: they come out of this game, they decided that they
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: had to file their OC that they had so many
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: other problems. I do not get while they fired that guy,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: but I'm not a huge perdue person either.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Anyway. Here here's here's my entire like overall thing on
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: ress one with coaches, I agree that not gonna say
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I agree with real personal foul call on why he
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: got it and he made his explanation on whatever, I whatever.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Besides the point, I agree that coaches need to be
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the ones fighting for their players with officials to get calls.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: And sometimes you just do it because you do it,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: and you don't even really agree that that's what happened
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: on the play. You do it to show your players
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: that I have your back, I'm fighting for you, because
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: guess what in return, they're going to fight for you
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: on the field. I think that's very, very important, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: really good coaches do that. Scott Frost did not do
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: that until he was desperate, desperate, desperate at the end.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Mike Riley, I laugh. I think that's important because two
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: players should never ever complain to officials a matter of
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the situation. The only one that might have a little
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: justification as a quarterback if you have a relationship with
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the header f which you see more in the NFL
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: than college. Players should never talk to the officials, and
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: if your coach is doing their job right, that shouldn't happen.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Third thing, officials should never be the reason that you
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: won or lost the game. That should never be a justification. Ever.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Fourth thing I kind of mentioned this, calls are going
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to be missed. Some games will be more than others.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Some games will be more penalties than others. Last thing,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the worst line that I hate that people say, God,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the ref's hate Nebraska, the Big Ten hates Nebraska, the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: refs hate us. There's not a single reffing crew out
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: there that is out to get anybody. Officials are never
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: going to screw a team over because they have fights
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: for you and that's not going to happen. And people
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: said the rest are bad and called somebody, well, yeah,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: guess what. Produce still had more penalties than us. So
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: everybody's opinions on refereeing, and it only it's only worse
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: now because we have video to like see every angle
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: of how they can miss a call live. Yeah, it's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: only worse and worse and worse. And then on top
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: of that you can you can replay and see it
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the next day, and I mean it's all out there. Yes,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of penalties, Yes it chops the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: game up, but guess what if you execute and you
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: don't fall start on fourth and one. Bryce ben Hart like,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: can't do that, don't do that crap?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I just feel like big ten rapping.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I was talking about this yesterday too, Big ten rapping
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: is worse than any other conference that I watch. I
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: feel like, I feel like, especially lower games like this
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: we do Nebraska, Indiana, Maryland say that's lower game. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: feel like they put just the shittiest reffing crews out there,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: like Michigan State last year, Nebraska, those guys that know
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: what they were doing.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember. I will say, I don't know who
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: these guys were. That was my first question after the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: game was who are the officials, because a lot of
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: times you'll see the same guys week after. I didn't
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: recognize these guys at all.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Neither. I was like, I never saw these guys.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: So I don't know the extent of you know, where
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: they came from. Maybe they came with the PAC twelve
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: officials and with these other teams. I'm not sure, but
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: it just it. It was fun just going back and
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: watching some of it. I'm like, well, yeah, there's a
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: lot of penalties, but at the same time, I'm like
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of these are penalties. Maybe that's just a
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: product of to not overly great football teams.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think they were terrible, Like I said, I
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: don't think that they reffed a terrible game. When they
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: through that flag at the beginning of the offense pasters,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh boy, here we go. This is
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: gonna be it's gonna be a disaster. But I did
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: think they repped a terrible game. And all they called,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: like you said, they called they saw on the field.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And if Ford is not gonna turn their heads, I
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: don't know what they're coaching and practice at all that
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: high school love stuff. They're not gonna turn their heads.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Call it like that's on them. Turn your head and
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: look for the ball.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: All right. Well that's all we got for time this week.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: We'll be back Wednesday previewing Ruggers go be Red.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: We were sooner big win.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Yes they did.