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Morgan Wallen _ This Past Weekend w_ Theo Von _573(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: I have some tour dates to tell you about. The
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  Speaker 1: choose to purchase one. Today's guest made me feel welcome
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  Speaker 1: when I got here to Tennessee. He's arguably the most
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  Speaker 1: popular musician on the planet. He's the East Tennessee Elvis, baby.
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  Speaker 1: He's You know what he is. I mean, he's so prolific.
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  Speaker 1: He's very competitive, and I admire his attention to detail.
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  Speaker 1: Today's guest is one of a kind, Mr. Morgan Wallace.
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  Speaker 2: Shine on me, and I will find you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, good to see you, bro.
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  Speaker 3: Good to see you, too, man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome, man. What's been going on? Yeah, my
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  Speaker 1: mom was visiting for my birthday. We went to the Opry.
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  Speaker 1: You did? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Cool, man.
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  Speaker 1: It was cool, dude. Trace Adkins.
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  Speaker 3: Did she come up here a lot or no?
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  Speaker 1: No, she hadn't been here since I moved here.
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  Speaker 3: It was your birthday?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, man.
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  Speaker 3: When is your birthday?
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  Speaker 1: Two days ago, March 19th.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, cool. Yeah, my parents are in town as well,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm trying to get them to move here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you are?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm working on that. That's been going on for
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  Speaker 3: the last few weeks now, so we'll see. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, your dad's so funny, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the man.
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  Speaker 1: He's unreal. Dude, because we went on, what was, we
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  Speaker 1: went with, is it Morgan Wallen, the foundation, Morgan Wallen Foundation?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Up there in the Greenville area. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. During the flood stuff?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, during Hurricane Helene, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And your dad came, and it was awesome, man. They
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  Speaker 1: had the food truck, they had, you know, they were
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  Speaker 1: doing food drives and- I met some people up there
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  Speaker 1: and visited the houses and stuff. That was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. That was a cool day, man.
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  Speaker 1: It was good.
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  Speaker 3: I wish we did stuff like that more often. I
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  Speaker 3: guess we could.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's why. I mean, you have a
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  Speaker 1: foundation that can do it when you're not able to
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: But, yeah, I agree with you. It feels good.
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  Speaker 3: To actually get out and do it yourself. You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? Yeah. It can be a little stressful.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you got to.
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  Speaker 3: You got to keep it timed up right to where
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  Speaker 3: you're not sticking around in one place too long and
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff. You know, you got to be a
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  Speaker 3: little tactful about it, but it's good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tony Vitello, is that his name? Mm-hmm. Yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 1: he came out. He's the best.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's cool too, man.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, he's cool.
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  Speaker 3: He always helps with stuff involving our foundation, and we
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  Speaker 3: stay in touch on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all do?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I tried to invite him to a bracket the
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  Speaker 3: other day. I was like, you're probably not allowed to
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  Speaker 3: do this, are you? He said, No.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in that bracket, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I tried to invite him into that bracket.
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  Speaker 1: You and me are tied right now. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: in first.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we are.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, we are.
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  Speaker 3: I checked this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, yeah, one thing that was crazy about your dad, though,
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  Speaker 1: he was fasting whenever we were doing that.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: He'd been on a 40-day fast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's done that for like as long as I
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  Speaker 3: can remember. I remember him like when I was growing up,
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  Speaker 3: he would just go and like stay out in the wild,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in a tent or something and just. drink
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  Speaker 3: apple juice or something. I'm like, dude, how, how is
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  Speaker 3: this possible?
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  Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't sound like that. That sounds like
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  Speaker 1: hiding from your wife.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He needed some space. Didn't have enough money to get,
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  Speaker 3: get a trailer or something.
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  Speaker 1: But that was, I just didn't, cause it was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I'd just been looking into fasting. Cause people say
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  Speaker 1: it like, if you fast, it'll help like eat away
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  Speaker 1: the cancer cells that are in your body. So when
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  Speaker 1: he was like, I've been on 40 days.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they say that only takes like a couple days
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  Speaker 3: to do that, what you're talking about, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you fast for a couple days, it'll do that,
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, that's right. Once you get past 48 hours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what he was doing it for was
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  Speaker 3: spiritual purposes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he used to do it for, and that's
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  Speaker 3: probably what he's doing it for now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a team of researchers from MSK has shown for
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  Speaker 1: the first time that fasting can reprogram the metabolism of
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  Speaker 1: natural killer cells, helping them to survive in the harsh environment.
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  Speaker 1: in and around tumors while improving their cancer-fighting ability. But
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  Speaker 1: it just blew my mind. I was like, God, this
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  Speaker 1: dude's on 40 days. Put this dude back in the Bible.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, dude, I don't understand how that's physically possible.
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  Speaker 3: I pretty much have been, for the last little while,
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  Speaker 3: fast until noon. I'll do my workout and everything in
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  Speaker 3: the first part of the day without eating. But I
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  Speaker 3: can't imagine— going a whole day without doing that to.
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  Speaker 1: Be honest he's got some bandwidth on him man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah he's a pretty strong willed guy he's.
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  Speaker 1: Always so chipper dude yeah I just I'd love to
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  Speaker 1: get and hang out with him that was probably and
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  Speaker 1: he tells stories from like being in the military and
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  Speaker 1: stuff some of that stuff is bonkers.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah some of that stuff ain't gonna be repeated
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  Speaker 3: on here he makes me look calm.
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  Speaker 1: Dude that's the crazy part you start talking to him
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  Speaker 1: you're like oh well some of this checks out for
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  Speaker 1: sure it checks out we don't need a DNA test
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  Speaker 1: in this family um but you said they're moving down here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah I'm trying to get them to um We'll see
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  Speaker 3: how it goes, but I'm working on it. I've been
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  Speaker 3: talking to him about it for a while. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just somebody uprooting their entire life to come somewhere. But
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  Speaker 3: me and my sister live down here. It's a tricky,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's always tricky getting stuff like that to happen,
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  Speaker 3: but we're working on it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot, man. Is it, I know you
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  Speaker 1: have a son, Indio.
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  Speaker 3: Indio, yeah. His name's Indigo, but I call him Indy.
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  Speaker 1: Indy, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What's that been like, dude? Because that's been probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest things in your life, I'm sure. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: outside of your– I mean, like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I think– I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: how to ask that question. I think it just gets
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  Speaker 3: better and better as, you know, the older he gets.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's always been cool. But, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: he's– he's four years old now. He'll be five this year.
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  Speaker 3: Just the personality that keeps coming out and the relationship
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  Speaker 3: that you build, you know, and he's got a little–
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  Speaker 3: he's got a little sass on him. Like, he's got
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  Speaker 3: a little attitude, you know, which is– I like. I
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  Speaker 3: like that spunk, you know. Like yesterday, my dad was
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  Speaker 3: telling him he was trying to get him to eat.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of a task to get him to eat,
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  Speaker 3: to sit still long enough to eat, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: my dad was like, hey, man, if you don't eat,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to put you in the bedroom. You got
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  Speaker 3: to go to sleep or whatever, you know. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know exactly what my dad said to him, but he
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  Speaker 3: looked at my dad and he said, I don't want
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  Speaker 3: you to stay here anymore.
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  Speaker 1: All day, brother. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: But i just i just i mean like it's just
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  Speaker 3: hilarious you know and.
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  Speaker 1: You're behind your dad you're telling him like yeah oh.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah uh just anything to keep
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  Speaker 3: him keep him rocking but he's uh he's a sweetheart
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  Speaker 3: but whenever you get him yeah oh yeah he uh
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  Speaker 3: he's almost too sweet he he's too nice to everyone
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  Speaker 3: like people he doesn't know you know like hey man
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  Speaker 3: so We don't like everybody, man. We don't know these people, man.
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  Speaker 1: Stranger danger, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. So I'm trying to teach him a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of that.
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  Speaker 1: He's wild, definitely. He emailed me the other day asking
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  Speaker 1: me to send him some Zens. I was like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: you got to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't believe he figured out how to get
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  Speaker 3: a hold of the iPad like that. I'm not really
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  Speaker 3: big on letting him sit around with an iPad, but
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  Speaker 3: I guess he got my nieces or something. She probably
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  Speaker 3: had him send Zens. He probably had hers in the email,
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  Speaker 3: you know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Haven, type this out for me.
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  Speaker 1: Threes or sixes? Does he have a....
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  Speaker 3: I just downgraded to the threes, man. I'm weaning myself off.
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  Speaker 1: Are you? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I might just be putting two in.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a little bit of mouth math, homie. But
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  Speaker 1: you'll see a dude with like 11 threes, and I'm like, bitch,
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  Speaker 1: just get a damn 20 or something.
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  Speaker 3: That's like Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, your cousin?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes. He'll have a multitude in there. He's only
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  Speaker 3: on the citrus, though.
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  Speaker 1: He's hilarious, dude. Well, I'll ask you about him in
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, man. All right. Does your son have
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  Speaker 1: a favorite song of yours or anything?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a song that's not out yet. This album
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  Speaker 3: that I've been working on, this is the first time
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  Speaker 3: where it seems like he's really starting to put two
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  Speaker 3: and two together. Yeah. I would come home after I'd
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  Speaker 3: been writing and I'd show him songs this time. This
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  Speaker 3: is the first time that he's ever cared. and there's
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  Speaker 3: a song called Eyes Are Closed on my record, and
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  Speaker 3: I brought it home that night. We wrote it that
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  Speaker 3: day and took it home that night, and I was
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  Speaker 3: just playing. I wasn't really playing it for him. I
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  Speaker 3: just had it kind of playing in the background because
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  Speaker 3: it was my first time hearing the demo of what
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  Speaker 3: we had just done that day, and he was in
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  Speaker 3: the background, and he kind of moseyed on over there
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  Speaker 3: and started being like, ooh, what's this? And then after
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  Speaker 3: it was done, he said, I like that song, Daddy.
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  Speaker 1: Really?
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  Speaker 3: And it was like the first time he had ever
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  Speaker 3: done that, so it was a special moment for me,
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  Speaker 3: something I'll never forget, and he said, play that again
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  Speaker 3: you know and i was like yeah this song's a
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  Speaker 3: hit for me no matter what you know so um
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  Speaker 3: that was the first time i had really seen him
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  Speaker 3: like all those you know dots start connecting yeah i
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  Speaker 3: bet that's special for a while he uh he thought
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  Speaker 3: that soul by john michael mcgrummer he thought that was
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  Speaker 3: me singing he thought he was like play daddy's fast
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  Speaker 3: song he called it the fast song He thought.
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  Speaker 1: That was me.
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  Speaker 3: I said, damn, man. I mean, that dude sounds pretty good,
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  Speaker 3: but come on. Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: And then he's just bidding on pigs at his daycare?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I went down to the Grundy County. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: He called it the fast song, and I finally broke
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  Speaker 3: it to him. I said, that ain't me, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, and the email he sent me, he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you need to listen to my father's hit, Cotton Eye Joe,
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  Speaker 1: as well. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we are from Knoxville, you know. He's seen that
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  Speaker 3: sign a few times.
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  Speaker 1: That checks out, man. As you make more music, so
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  Speaker 1: the new album, I'm the Problem? Mm-hmm. as you make
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  Speaker 1: more music, because you have been so prolific, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's the word. What does prolific mean?
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the right word, too.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. But I don't know if either one of us
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  Speaker 1: should be.
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  Speaker 3: If there were the dictionary, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, definitely. It's like a lot. Producing much fruit.
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  Speaker 1: Producing much fruit, foliage, or offspring, actually, it says.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't been that prolific in that term, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Presenting one plentiful, it says. Producing many works. But does
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  Speaker 1: it get tougher to like, okay, how do I have,
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  Speaker 1: do I not have a song that sounds, that's similar
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  Speaker 1: to a song I previous had? Because when you have
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  Speaker 1: so many songs, does that get a little bit tough
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  Speaker 1: or what's that like?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it does, you know?
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  Speaker 1: Like, has there been a great song that's like you
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  Speaker 1: guys have put together and then you're like, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a little too close to this or?
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  Speaker 3: Well, for this album, I feel like I just didn't
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  Speaker 3: let it get to that point. You know, at least
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  Speaker 3: if I was a part of writing it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think, I can't remember exactly how many ones I
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  Speaker 3: was and wasn't a part of writing. But if a
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  Speaker 3: song came in as a pitch, I kind of knew immediately.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, these people are writing. This might
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  Speaker 3: have made my last record. Maybe. Probably not. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like that's what it felt like to me.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of the pitches were that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I guess people are just going, they don't
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  Speaker 1: know where your next step is and who you are.
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  Speaker 3: There was a select group of writers that I kind of,
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  Speaker 3: you know, told a little bit what I was trying
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  Speaker 3: to accomplish, you know, and I feel like that really
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  Speaker 3: helped me find a certain one of the sounds that's
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  Speaker 3: on my record. But for me, when I'm writing, I
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  Speaker 3: kind of, you know, you can kind of tell from
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  Speaker 3: the idea almost if the song is going to be
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  Speaker 3: similar or not, you know, and that was something that
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  Speaker 3: was tougher for me because a lot of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the things that were successful and that
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  Speaker 3: were easy in the past were just like, Whiskey, drinking,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like all that stuff. And I've kind of
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  Speaker 3: just almost explored every angle of that that's possible. You know,
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  Speaker 3: like there's still some possible ways to get that in there.
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  Speaker 3: But I tried to dig deeper, man. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of my guys that I write with, we
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  Speaker 3: kind of kept a– at least for me, when I
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  Speaker 3: was writing, we kept five or six guys. We didn't
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  Speaker 3: always write together. But, you know, that kind of core
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  Speaker 3: group of guys, we all just had a good sense
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  Speaker 3: of what we were shooting for. And just trying not
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  Speaker 3: to say the same thing that I've said before and,
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  Speaker 3: you know, incorporating new things. So I feel like it
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  Speaker 3: was harder. You know, I had to work harder.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, what do you mean? Like, find a new angle?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just finding new angles and just thinking up ideas,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And there's, you know, or just maybe somebody
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  Speaker 3: had an idea and they brought it in. And I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's pretty good. But, like, trying to find a way
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  Speaker 3: to make it. something different, you know, like it would,
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  Speaker 3: sounds like that idea would have been on the last record,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe I can flip this or flip that into
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  Speaker 3: making it something that's more unique, you know? So just
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  Speaker 3: trying to dig deeper and not just, not just saying,
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, not just being content with something, you know,
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  Speaker 3: just digging deeper.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, taking it easy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just digging deeper.
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  Speaker 1: Cause you can kind of, yeah, it's funny, I was
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  Speaker 1: talking to Charlie Hanson the other night. Dude, that guy, bro,
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  Speaker 1: him and Marissa, is that his, Marissa?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Marissa, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, they're hilarious, bro.
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  Speaker 3: They are hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: She's so funny, dude.
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  Speaker 3: She kind of keeps him in check, I feel like.
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  Speaker 1: The pairing, both of them, because he's kind of so
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: rough around the edges. Maybe that's not a crazy thing
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: to say about him.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: No, definitely not. I think he'd probably agree with that.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just so real.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: He's a pretty blunt guy. Yes. Pretty blunt. Yes, he is.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: Which I've always loved that about him. When he first
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: got to town, I guess that was probably who we wrote,
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: if I know me. I mean, I had to be
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: either 17 or 18 when I first met him Wow.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: And 2017 or 18, not when I was 17 or
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: 18 years old. But, you know, he kind of, I
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: think he came from L.A. So he had like this,
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I guess it's different out there, you know.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: It seems like it's like a dick measuring contest out
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: there a lot.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Well, people are probably, yeah, that could be true.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: And I think he had brought a lot of that
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: mindset to Nashville, you know. And whenever we were first writing,
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, man, you ain't got to be like that,
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: you know. Like, it ain't like that here.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: You know, so we just, and I would give him
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: a hard time when he would be acting like that.
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: I'd always, you know, talk shit and stuff. So we
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: just became instant friends, like that kind of friend.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: I could see that 100%, dude. Yeah. Because what did
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: I say? Oh, he'd gotten married, right? And his wife
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: one night, I think that she probably had a cocktail
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: or two and invited me to their wedding, right? Yeah.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: And I had to work that weekend. But I saw pictures.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: You went. I think Hardy went. It looked like a
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: good time.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was a beautiful wedding, man.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Really, really beautiful.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: It was on an island somewhere.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, an island marauder. It was like, you know, you
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: heard of that show Bloodline? Oh, yeah. It was that
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: compound where that was filmed.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, damn.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: So it was legit.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: God. Yeah, and so when I saw it, I said, hey, man,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry I couldn't make it to the wedding. He's like, well,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: you know, we weren't really expecting you there.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if they... I was in the
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: damn wedding, and I don't know if they was expecting
• 15:33
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• 15:35
  Speaker 3: was supposed to start and left before it was over, but...
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: I was proud to be there, man. It was cool.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I really appreciated it.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: It was cool. But he's just like, look, man, we
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: don't super know each other that good, he said.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: But it was so like just the realest shit ever.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: He's like, and if we become better friends and. You know,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: and that happens, then, yeah, man, I'd expect you to
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: be at my, you know, if I get divorced or
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: if I do a renew of the vows.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: I'd expect you to be at my divorce and now.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Dude, it was just like, and I was like, dude,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: you're so right. I was like, and it didn't make
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: me want to get to know him more because it
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: was like just cutting through the bullshit.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I love that. That's a definite, that's an accurate way
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: of describing him.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Which I think is probably what makes him a good songwriter, too,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: because it's like you got to, like, if you too
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: much bull, it's like, if you can cut through the bullshit.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He's, he's, he'll definitely tell you like, or if you're,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: if you're on something, he's like, man, that sucks. You know?
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: And that's what, I mean, I feel like I have
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: a pretty good gauge of, of, you know, what's good
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: and what's not, but like, it's, it's nice to have
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: another person in the room who will tell you straight up.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Cause especially when you, when you do get to like,
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: get to this level, people sometimes don't check you the
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: way they should, you know, they'll just let you rock
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: with it and you know, whatever.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Damn, dude. No, it's just interesting to hear you say that.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I had a guy a few years ago. I had
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: taken out a guy. We went to lunch, and he's married,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and we're both straight. But we went and had lunch together.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Thanks for clarifying, man. But, yeah, he's been like a
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: manager of some of the most popular comedians over time.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And I was talking to him. He goes, well, you
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: kind of have to evolve with your audience. He's like,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: going back to kind of what you said earlier about
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: some people probably present songs to you. that would have
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: been great an album or two ago it's like damn
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: that would have been but it's like.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: You yeah i mean you can't blame you know you
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: can't blame them you know what i mean you can't
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: expect them to know what's in your head what you're
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: going to do next.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah and they only have like the footprints that they've
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: seen you leave it so far make that they can
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: even judge on.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Right like i've heard wasted on you i've heard that 2.0
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: 18 000 times you know in you know in my
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: inbox um a lot of them don't even make it
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: to me because it gets snipped before it even gets
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: to me but I've heard plenty of them, you know?
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I understand it, but, you know, you can't settle like that.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: But you also don't want to go too far either,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: because then your fans are like, dude, you know, what's
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: he doing?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: What's his name, Chris Gaines?
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Is he just taking a lot of mushrooms or something?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: You know, like, you can get that guy, too.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: This man, at one time, he said, he goes, one
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: thing you have to evolve with your audience, if you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: try to hide that you're evolving or that you're growing—
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Because your audience also grows, right?
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: So he's like, if you try, it can be a
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: trap sometimes to try to just fit your current feet
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: back in your old footprints. And I just thought it
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: was interesting to hear somebody say that. I'd never really
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: thought about, because sometimes you're like, oh, this worked and
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I got to stay right here. But you're not there anymore,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I mean, even if it's just subtle changes,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: it don't have to be like. huge things you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Know yeah you don't have to come out and do
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like a Mozart style.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Right right you know like my last album I had
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: plenty of trap beats and stuff like that this time
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: I was like hey man let's just let's tone that
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: back a little bit I'm tired I'm tired of it
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I'm tired of hearing it so if I'm tired of
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: it they're probably tired of hearing it yeah you know
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: so just like certain things that you can still get
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: that same swag or that same you can accomplish certain
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: things without doing the same exact thing yeah so it's
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: just simple stuff like that in in some cases.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've always had a pretty good, like,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: instinct about that kind of stuff? Like, is that something
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: you think you really have? Like, you kind of can feel?
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I like to think so, man. I feel like I
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: can tell when something's getting tired, you know?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a gift, man.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so. Maybe God gave me that. I
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: don't know. I've also learned from people in my, you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: that I've been around for the last 10 years who
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like I've learned from and that have helped
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: me with that as well. You know, I don't think
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I was just Fully just, I think I had a
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: knack for it already, but I think I've, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: developed it and learned from people as well, so. Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I've always had a tough time, like, because I've always
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: been like a do-it-yourself kind of guy. Like, I feel
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: like I know what I'm doing. Like, I work hard.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But then recently I've had to, like, realize I need
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: help more. It's like, I can't always give this guy.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a hard time i need i need to see you
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: know i'm saying like i can't always butt up against
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: every wall you know because i'll just do that it's
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: just my nature because i don't want help a lot
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: of times yeah yeah man that shit has been.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: That's a big that's a big deal.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's been getting better though recently yeah even just
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like just little things i just started noticing it's getting
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a little bit better and it's And the irony is
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: everything's been easier. Yeah. The more I let help come in.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I think there's certain areas in my life, like with music,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I've always kind of, I've been a good teammate. I
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: don't know why that is. Maybe I've just always liked
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: the aspect of feeling like you're on a team, I
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: guess because I played sports and stuff so much growing up.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: For me, I enjoy the camaraderie of making music with
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: my buddies and doing all that stuff. So I've always
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: kind of, enjoyed the, the, the help and the team
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: aspect of that. But there's other areas in my life
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: where I, I'm like you, where I'm like, I don't,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: you know, whatever. No, no, I'm good. Yeah.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: So it's not, it doesn't necessarily permeate throughout my entire life.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: It's just that one thing where I, I've been able to,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: to do that. Yeah.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Oh dude, I'll be sitting in a damn bottom of
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a hole. There'll be a thousand people out there with
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: rope and I'll be like, I'm good.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I'll find one. There's one down here. There's one down
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: here somewhere.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: And they'll be up there, and they're like, this dude's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: an idiot. Yeah. Yeah, you're damn right I am.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm proud of it, too.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm proud of it. That's the best part. Is
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it tough in your life? I mean, dude, your music,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's just been such a wave that, like,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't travel around town without seeing every
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: guy at a stoplight look like, you know, look like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: a Morgan Wallen, look like a. like, hear your music everywhere,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: every store, like, are there moments for you where it's like, God,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: this guy's got it. Like, it's like, where it almost,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: where you become too much for you. Like, is that ever,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: does that make any sense?
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it does. It's still, it's still weird. And
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: there's parts of that that I don't like. I mean,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I think anybody who has to deal with that, it's
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: not ideal. You know, it's not ideal to go everywhere.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: And even if you don't get, get like, you know, bothered,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: you were on edge the whole time because you thought
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: you might. It's like, There's just not a lot of–
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: there's things that you just don't do. Yeah. You just
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: don't do them anymore.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: You know? But that's okay. That's why I've taken up
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: hunting so much, I think, you know, because I can
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: go be with my buddies. I'm in the middle of nowhere.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I can be at ease. I can not stress out.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: You just find ways to supplement it, I think, you know?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's kind of funny that you can't really go
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to a bar anymore because there'd be too much hassle.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: And it's probably the best thing for you.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: It's definitely the best thing for me. I mean, if
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: you're using a bar as a specific example, that's definitely
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: the best thing for me. I ain't been in a
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: bar since– since the last time I was in a bar, um,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: that everybody knows about.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: How is that? That feels like a bar right there.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: It does.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: It sounds like an old country song for sure. Um,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: but yeah, that's, that's, that's the most public time I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: was in a bar. That's the last time I was
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: in a bar.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Dude, have you seen those, uh, there's an AI bar
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: thing that makes, uh, country songs. There's one about a bar.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: You gotta see if you can pull it up.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Um, Trevin. Is it good?
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Dude, it's pretty funny. Let me see. This shit kind
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: of surprised me. Oh, it's the right one. Kitchen. And
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the second one right there with the guy and the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: lady in the truck. Yeah. Turn that up for a second.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: It's just ridiculous.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Look, change it to whiskey and have Morgan Wallen sing it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: That's one of the number one comments.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Hey, start it back over and just turn it up
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit. We can't hear it, but this is
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: just like AI made this.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I woke up in the morning to crack myself a beer.
• 23:49
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• 23:54
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• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's a perfect day for beer. That's good, man.
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• 24:18
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• 24:20
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• 24:21
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• 24:22
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  Speaker 3: That's a good question. I've been trying to find new
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  Speaker 3: stuff to listen to. I don't find a whole lot
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  Speaker 3: time I listen to music, which I do those things
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  Speaker 3: a decent amount, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of same, man. That's kind of when I do it. Yeah. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Wilson I've been listening to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good. He's really good.
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  Speaker 1: He's a great lyricist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. He's a special talent.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: That song about my father's son, Hardy played that one
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  Speaker 3: God, that's good. Yeah, that guy is really, really good.
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  Speaker 1: Zach Topp's voice is really amazing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't listen to country music a whole lot. I
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  Speaker 1: Jesse Murph, Big X The Plug, you've heard that song? Uh-uh. No.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: They have a collab that's pretty dope.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Me and Big X, we almost did a song, but
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I actually sent him a song, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: he didn't finish it, so I don't know. That's on him.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I guess I don't know what he was doing.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: He was in jail.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Did he?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I think so, yeah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: For what? Not a long time. Not long enough. I
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: went to jail, too, man.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Hey, if you're behind bars, write a couple.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: No, it was kind of a spur-of-the-moment thing, though. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: got a song on my record called Miami.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard that one yet. They sent me a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: couple of the songs.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: Did they? Yeah, it's cool, man. It's a Keith Whitley flip,
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: so it's like an old Miami, Miami, that song. Have
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: you ever heard that? Miami, Miami. what took you so long?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Why don't you never call?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, I've never seen it. People talk about Keith Whitley.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: That's one of his bigger type songs, I guess. But
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: we flipped it and turned it into more of like a,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: it's a little more like rap style. But it's cool, man.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I like it. It's cool. It seemed like it could
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: use a rapper on there. I didn't end up using
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: a feature. We ended up just making a second verse.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: But it's one of those songs where it wouldn't be
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: surprising if we got like a remix and did that.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Once it's out and all
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: that stuff.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: You're famous. You guys had these different walkouts that you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: did over the years, right? Really fun. And thanks for
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: letting me be part of the one in Nashville. Yeah, yeah.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite one that kind of stood
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: out to you? And no judgment to any of them.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: What was it like? Neyland Stadium is, you know, that's
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: my home. That's where I grew up watching games.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: And Peyton put those pads on?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Peyton, that one was really good. The baseball team one
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: we did was really good, too. But that Peyton one,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: that was one of the, you know, it's hard to beat.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Anything that happened those two nights at that stadium, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: find myself just being like, yeah, that's pretty, those are
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: like the, you know, some of the best memories I've had.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: So sick.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: He's so ridiculous.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: He came out looking like he was actually about to
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: go play with his facial expressions and stuff.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, I think half the boosters wanted to sign. Some boosters,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I think, were trying to holler at him.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: Probably. Hey, man, you got another year of eligibility.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: We'll find something else. Yeah, man, that was special, dude.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: So cool.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the walkouts are, they're just, The energy that
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: comes from those just could last you... I mean, maybe
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: not the entire show, but it'll last you a while,
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: you know? And then once you get out there and
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: compound the energy that comes along with the actual show,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: it's just... It's a rush.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's that coach right there that we
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: put that water on.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Hypel?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, he's thugging. He's big thugging right there.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: He was, dude.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: What else has happened? So... Uh You have your The
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: first time you're gonna play Your new album will be
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: At Sand In My Boots Fest?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I'll play some of my album there Okay Um You
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: know the album comes out On the 16th I'll play
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: on the 18th I'll probably I'll play some of the
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: new stuff That's another thing man It's hard to It's
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: hard picking set lists At this point too Oh You
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: know That gets real.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Tricky Do you do that yourself? You kind of organize it?
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah me and Me and my band do it together
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Um You know, a lot of it's data-driven, you know,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: because you can see. You know which songs the majority
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: of people want to hear. Oh, yeah. You're always going
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: to miss somebody's favorite song. You're probably going to miss
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: my favorite song, you know, in some sets. Just trying
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: to figure out a way this year since, you know,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I'm only playing 20 shows. So probably if I can
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: try to figure out a way to not play the
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: same set list all the time. You know, because last
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: year I interchanged a couple, but I think it's going
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: to be, I'm going to make a bigger effort to
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: try to make the set list different for at least
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: each night. You know, maybe not every single show will
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: be a different set list, but like night one, night two.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Because we're playing two nights in each place. So night,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: you know, trying to separate the two nights as far
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: as music goes should be interesting because we've never done
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: that before. We would always just do, like, maybe change
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: one or two songs. You know, I'm thinking maybe a
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: little more than that. I like that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that way if people wanted to come for both nights, too,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: they could and hear different stuff, too.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of people already do come both nights,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: so that would be nice for them, too.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: There's really no way to do it perfectly. Somebody's going
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: to be disappointed or, you know, at any point, oh,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: they didn't play this song or they didn't play that song.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: But trying our best. I'm not going to play for
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: four hours either, so, you know.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You got to– Keep it within reason. We got
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to meet in the middle, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: do my best.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: I don't want to sing for four hours. Two hours,
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: maybe a little longer than two hours.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: You put it on, man. My show, I'll be out
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: there for maybe about an hour, and 15 minutes is
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: probably the sweet spot for me to be on stage,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I think, with a comedian where they're just, because we
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: don't have any backup instruments, so people are like, fuck,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: somebody tap in a violin or something with this bastard.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You know, people get a little bit tired of it.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: But I can't, and that burns me out, man. I
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: used to do two shows, and now I only do
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: one a night. But I can't imagine.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, you used to do two shows in one night? Yeah.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Back to back?
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. When you first started as a.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I think I remember you telling me that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like, even whenever I first came to town,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you guys came one night and saw me over at Zany's, man. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: That was cool. And you came and did my podcast early, man,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and that helped me... It helped give me some just
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: support in the community.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't even realize it was early because, to me,
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I'd been listening to you for like a little while,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: you know, so I already knew you and knew about
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: you and knew your story and everything. So it wasn't like, hey,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: come do this weird new guy's podcast. I already knew
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: who you were.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Well, it was just support. You know, it was nice
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to have some support right when I got into town. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: No, I'm glad we got to do it, man. Damn,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: that was in 2020.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Was it really?
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: God.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Dang, bro. Look how happy you were. I think I
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: got it. I'm joking, dude. We both look happy. That's
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: the pictures we picked. I look like I'm in pain.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: You look like you just came from the dentist.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I look so white.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we had bad lighting then.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: Golly.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: We bought some better lights.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Looking pasty, boy.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: What's up with the free time now? So you go hunting.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Where do you guys like to go?
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Well, all over the place, man. I got a farm
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: outside of town that we've been planting and Oh, I
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: think I saw some deer out there. Getting all the
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: agriculture right. I don't think you've been to my farm,
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: have you?
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, I've never been to your house.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've just been to my house, I believe. But, yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: so we got deer and turkeys down there.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: So that's pretty much what it's geared towards. It's a
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: really good— we bought it. It was already a really good
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: turkey farm. And then we've just been adding a lot
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: of the agriculture and all that stuff to try to
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: make it a better deer farm.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: What makes a good setup like that? Like what's the
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: best way to make it set up where it's challenging
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: to the hunter, but also.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Like, I mean, it's always going to be challenging when
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: deer hunting, just, you know, because you only get to
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: kill two, two bucks in a, in a season, in
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: a state, you know, so you're not, you're not just
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: going to go out there and shoot everything you see.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: What I mean? Like you, you may let a really
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: good deer walk because you're trying to get a better,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: you know, that there's a better deer in the area or,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: you believe there's a better deer in there, you know,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: like we have cameras and stuff now, so we can
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: kind of take inventory on stuff. But you're not, you don't,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: I think people, I don't know what people think about hunting,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: but like, you don't just go out there and just
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: massacre animals, you know what I mean?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Right, you're not out there with a handgun or nothing.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: No, but I mean, it's, it's interesting. I mean, the
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: main thing is food, you know, food and bedding. that's
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: that's really all that's what those are the two main
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: things that you need to have a good hunting farm
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: okay as long as you got there the the type
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: of bedding that they want and preferably the type of
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: food that they want then you're going to keep those
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: deer on your farm because they ain't gonna they don't
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: need to leave to go find either one of those
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: right they're happy so they'll stay in their home range
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: and they'll stay there and you can grow them you
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: know like we don't want to you at least try
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: to get them to be five years old um and
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: that's that's minimum that what we want to do um
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: You know, depending on where you're at in the country,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: people will let them get older. It's a little different,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I think, depending on your land, because, you know, like
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: if you spend all this time and money and then
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: you got your neighbor who, if your deer walks across
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: to their property line, they might shoot it before you
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: were planning on shooting it. So, you know, it can
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: be a little bit of a game.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: So there can be property line beef like that.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. There's all kinds of that going on. Yeah,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of hunting property like beef.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And what about reindeer? Do you ever see reindeer out
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: there or not?
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I personally came across one. My son did just get
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: a reindeer call and one of my buddies from Alabama
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: made him a reindeer call.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, wait, for Christmas?
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's hilarious.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Bro, you got to use that. That's pretty cool. Imagine that, dude.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: You're a kid and you think it was a nice
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: reindeer call you're bringing in Santa, dude.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he thinks that's what he's doing. I mean, That
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: would be– I don't even think he's actually tried it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Like he– I guess that was probably last Christmas. So
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: he's just– he's came– he's just got a lot of
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: new interest and stuff this year. So I think I
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: was– I came home this past weekend and I was
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: working on my turkey call just in my mouth, you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: and he was trying to like mimic me and stuff.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: It was hilarious. He's just screaming basically.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is it fun to watch him kind of grow?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Has it been interesting? Is there moments where you see
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: him learn something and you almost see him learn it?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Does that kind of happen?
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool. I've been working on him on how
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: to catch and stuff. I've just been using a soft basketball.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I've got one of those basketball goals you hang up
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: on the door. Oh, yeah, there's just so much fun
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: when you're a kid. I use it more than him still.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: You're just making him rebound for you.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Every time I'm on the phone, I'll just put my
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: headphones in and just start shooting for like 30 minutes.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Since it's been cold, especially.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: But, yeah, just, you know, when we first started, he
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: couldn't do it. And then, you know, a couple weeks later, he's, like, catching. And,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: you know, he can catch a bounce pass now. You know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: it's just like seeing those things progress in such a
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: short period of time is cool.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Does it make you have a different appreciation for your
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: own dad? Or has it adjusted y'all's relationship any.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: You think?
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Is that a weird question to ask?
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: No, it's not a weird question. I think, yeah, I
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: think it probably does. I mean, me and my dad,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: we butted heads a lot growing up, especially once I
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: got to high school just because I was kind of ridiculous.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: And I think he was kind of ridiculous when he
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: was that age too, so he was just trying to. hey,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: don't be like me when I was that age. You know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: like I know what this turns, I know how this
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: ends usually. So we just butted heads. I didn't, you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: you don't believe anything your parents say.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: When you're that age. No, it's the last person you
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: want to believe. It's so crazy.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: It's not even possible. It wasn't possible in my head
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: to believe that. That's crazy to think now. I'm like, damn,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: they were right. But in my head, it was not
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: physically possible to think that they could be right.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: It just wasn't.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy because, like, oh, these two people
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that love me and care about me and raised me
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: this far. They're trying to ruin my life. They're trying
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: to ruin my life.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you think. It's wild. It's insane, really.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: But that's what I thought. But, yeah, I mean, after,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: you know, I moved out. And really once I think
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: I got moved down here to Nashville, that's when we
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: became closer.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Closer than ever because I moved here pretty young. You know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I was 22 when I moved here.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. and almost been here 10 years coming up.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: So it's I think just having that space and then
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: just being able to you should get older too you know.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Oh that's the biggest thing you're like oh shit none
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: of that other shit even matter.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: What I'm doing like yeah maybe you could have went
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: about it a little different or whatever you know but
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: like the intentions were right.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah I mean I just got spending time with my
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: mom is like a lot of my life it's like
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for my mom to like show me certain
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: attention or affection or something. The other night we're just
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: sitting there, we're watching at the Opry and she went
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: there like 40 years ago or something, you know? And, um,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's kind of stupid, but I just
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: reached over and grabbed my mom's hand, you know? Cause
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's not about me being a kid anymore.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: It's just about me being, she's an older woman now.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: So it's like, let me just be an adult and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: almost act like I'm the parent, you know, I'm not
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the parent now, but let me, I don't know, it's
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: an old part of me, like a child part of me,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: of like, oh man, it's my brother, I wish my
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: mom would, you know, pat me on the back, just
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: do something, you know, show me a little bit of
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: love or something. But then I just grabbed her hand
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: and then we just watched it together and it was
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: like me kind of, I don't know, it was a
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: little moment for me where I was like, I'm not
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be that old grudge, I'm just gonna move forward,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: That's cool, yeah.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: But it was just interesting. Or just to get my
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: mom a hug while we're sitting there, you know, just like.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: You know, me and my mom, my mom always we
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: always had like a super, super good relationship. She was
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: always loving and stuff, you know. So I just I
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: felt all that from my mom. But me and my dad,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you know, like I said, we butted heads. So it
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: was more of just getting past that phase in my life.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: But I didn't once it was once that phase was over,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: it was over.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: To me. Yeah. I don't I don't have any sort of.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Hard feelings towards it? Oh, yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Dude, your dad is so funny, dude. Right when I
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: see him, my face just fucking smiles. I know.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: He's just energetic.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Chipper. You said he was chipper. That's the right word
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: for him.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: And he's been fasting for like 700 days, dude.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: At this point, I don't know. He ain't fasting. He
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: ain't fasting right now. I've been seeing this man eat
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: during this trip he's been down here. He ain't fasting.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Don't let him lie to you. Because I've been basically,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: I've been, you know, eating clean and stuff, trying to
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: get ready for tour and all that. And there you go.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: you know, bribing me with all these hamburgers and stuff.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, go cook at somewhere.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Else. What about motorcycling? You got a motorcycle. I remember
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: last time you were talking about it. Did you get one?
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, you have a Harley hat on today.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I do, yeah.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Gang, gang, that's nice, dude.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: Let's go, baby. I got this awesome, like, vintage thing.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, dude.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I enjoy it.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: You do?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which I kind of had ridden dirt bikes and
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: stuff a little bit, you know, enough to understanding my
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: way around a bike already. Right. So me and Cody
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: and TD and a few other of us, a few others,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: we all got bikes. Look at that shit.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I'll buy the cologne, whatever they're selling right there.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: It does look like that.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: It really does, huh? Exhaust by Morgan Wallen.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Exhaust. Smells like a fart.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: That wouldn't be a bad cologne though, dude.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: Smells like Morgan Wallen's farts, man.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: What if you had a blow to start that thing?
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: What if you had one of those breath things on it?
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised I don't. Has anybody ever had a motorbike
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: that has that on it? I'm sure they have. I'm
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: surprised I don't have that on every vehicle I've got.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Davidson County. Sorry, man.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. No, that's a handsome picture, man. That looks nice.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Thanks, man. But you get out there. I like it
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: because it's like, You got your helmet on. Nobody knows
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: who you are. Nobody knows who you are. You get
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: out there. You got to focus on it too. You
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: ain't on your phone. You ain't doing anything else. You're
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: just thinking about what you got to do on that bike.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: So I enjoy that aspect of it a lot. At
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: least me, I physically can't do anything else other than
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: think about what's going on on this bike.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Be locked in.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So I like that aspect of it a lot.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: You'll be riding and then all of a sudden it's
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: five hours have gone by and you just don't realize
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: that that happened.
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Damn, I gotta get out there sometime. I'm just so bad.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I'm bad at being in motion.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Well, that might not be for you then.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm better. I'm better.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: What do you mean? Wait, what do you mean? Keep going.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I'm bad at just like being in motion and having
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: to think at the same time. I'm more of a
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: stop and think. Well, Then move.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: What are we thinking about, though?
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Just anything, whatever the next thing has to be. It's
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: just hard for me. Like, I get, I just, I
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: think I just.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Well, you can just be in the back of the line, then. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I'll be in the back.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: You can just follow us.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would be a good, yeah, I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: don't want to be at the front.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Or the middle. The middle's probably the safest anyway. You
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: can be in the middle. Because you're protected in the back.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: You're protected in the front. You don't have to make
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: any decisions. You just follow the decisions.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: That's where I need to be, then.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: You should go take Harry's motorcycle class. That's who we
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: took our class from.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Is it good?
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I learned things I didn't know. It wasn't
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: easy necessarily either. There was things that were challenging.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Do you all go in a pack when you go
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: out there?
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I've ridden a couple times by myself, but I would
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: have somebody follow me, like my security or just anyone.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: But we mostly just ride at least in groups of two.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: A lot of times groups of four.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: That's tough, man. Maybe I'll have to get out there.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I got to pray about that.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't want to. Don't let me. I'm not
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: influencing you at all.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: want to be out there. I'm the problem.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: You can just get in the sidecar. Me and you, right?
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Get a little German sidecar. Yeah, dude, your cousin Andrew
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: and I are friends, man. Yeah. He's a class.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Dude, he is.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Okay. Your family is funny, dude.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: We've got a lot of characters in our family.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: That's what you have, dude. Even when I remember when
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you first told me I met you about your Uncle
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: David or something. Uncle David. And then just different people
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: you would tell me and then getting to meet your dad.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: And then, yeah, Andrew and I have become friends over
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the years. He's hilarious, dude.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely is hilarious.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Went fishing with him. He– dude, that dude will– he'll
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: put a damn– he'll start fishing anywhere you guys buy
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a chase bank and he'll feel cast over there put
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: what are you trying to catch man frog top on
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: there just because there's a bank he'll catch a damn
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: he'll catch a safe deposit box over there 12 pounds
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: brother oh god but he dude he's just good he
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: took us out to some property him and ben weprin
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: i think is the guy's name yeah ben yeah and
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: um And we had a blast, man. But he's good.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Where'd y'all go? To Holumaw?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: No, we went to... Oh, you went to Ease.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: We went to Ease, and it was cool, though. I
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: hadn't been there. God, that's beautiful.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: That place is immaculate. God.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was good, man.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Got some big fish in there. It's a beautiful spot, man.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: But does he hunt with you?
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Does he hunt?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Does Andrew hunt with you?
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, some. He does, yeah. I like hunting
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: with him. You know, he works for Field and Stream,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: so he travels a lot doing that job, which I
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: think is a really good job for him.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: He loves it, man. Yeah, he's talented, but he's hilarious, dude.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: We all keep telling him he should have his own
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: YouTube channel or something.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Really should, man.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Just a series of some sort. And this is the
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: things that happen to that guy. I'm like, dude, I
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: don't know how this has occurred to you, but the
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: world deserves to hear this.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay, brother.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: The world deserves to share in your pain that you're
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: dealing with right now. Because the things that happen to
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: him are just unbelievable, man.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Bro he's just such a good story yeah he's bro
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: he has been getting to know him has been a
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: gift man.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah he he is a true he's a treasure man
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: he's a national treasure he's a buried treasure i mean
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: i really he is buried right now we keep i
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: mean no he's maybe he'll take this and he'll watch
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: this clip and Go start his channel, you know?
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: He's entertaining. Yeah, man, he's just entertaining. He's E to
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Z to be around. And yeah, that field and stream
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: job with him is perfect.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: And he could do both. He could have that job
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: and do, you know, that could almost be part of it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Or find a way to put them together.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It could be a part of
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: the same thing.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: You couldn't find a guy that's more perfect for that.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Has there been something nice that you kind of got
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: yourself as a gift that you started, you know, feeling
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: like you were doing pretty well? I mean. A trip
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you took or anything?
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I used to be. probably a little
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: more frugal than i am right now.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Um yeah same i don't like i don't like going
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: to get stuck i don't like shopping for stuff.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah um i'm trying to think if there's anything that
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: i was just really splurged out on you know i
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: got a couple of watches and just things like that, but,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: and then I got a couple of nice cars. I mean,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't feel like I'm over the top
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: big spender guy.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: You know, and a lot of times.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: What, uh, what was your first car? Do you remember it? Yeah.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: It was a Jeep Cherokee.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Was it really, dude? I got a fricking Jeep Cherokee, dude.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: You do right now?
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And Los Angeles have a car there. It's got
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: like only 12,000 miles on it.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, this thing had a lot more than 12,000 miles
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: on it.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Um, It was a white Jeep Grand Cherokee. I think
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: it was a 95, if I'm remembering correctly.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Dude, I like those cars.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: It was not a bad car. I mean, it wasn't,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: whoever had it, it wasn't the most, it was like
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: that right there. That's exactly what it looked like.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: God, those bitches were tough, dude. That's exactly what it
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: looked like. Yeah, I had them Ford Escort, 84 Ford Escort.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Pull that bitch up, dude. If they'll even allow you.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Sometimes Google won't let you look at them anymore. Them
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: bitches are visually outlawed. I should walk here. Bro, that
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: shit will remodel your eyeline when you look at that bitch, dude.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: God damn, that bitch looks horrible. I haven't looked at
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: it in a few years.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's pretty bad. Especially that one on
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: the right, that blue one. God, that one pulled up.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And barely pulled up. That bitch pulled
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: up slow, dude.
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: It's got a two-cylinder in it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Bro, it had a fucking outboard motor engine in it.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: You had to steer it like with the reverse way.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Like you have to do a John boat.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it had a boat motor in it too.
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Steered it from the back.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: And dude, somebody stole my passenger seat in that bitch.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Really? Yeah, so if you had- Was it only a
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: two-seater anyway?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: No, it had three extra little seats in the back. Oh, okay, okay.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: But they weren't even a bench. It was three individual
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: little bitty seats. Okay.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Three booster seats right there?
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: You either had to have three kids that were triplets,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I guess, or a couple small buddies. But somebody had
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: stole my damn passenger seat, dude.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Did you ever get it back? Uh-uh.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Some of them were eating at a Burger King, and
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: somebody stole that bitch out of there. But then people
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: had to get in. They'd get in the car, but
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: they couldn't sit right there.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Did you put a couple blankets down or something, or what?
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Whatever, dude. The one time I picked
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: up a dude, I was getting him to buy me
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: alcohol at a gas station. I was skipping school. And
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: he got in, this kind of homeless-y kind of guy.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: And he got in, and instead of sitting in the back,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: he just got on his knees right there at the
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: passenger side. So I'm driving, and he just... He was
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: your friend? I didn't know him, no. He's like a
• 51:58
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• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 52:01
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• 52:05
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• 52:08
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• 52:11
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• 55:33
  Speaker 1: far enough? Could you keep going on an album? Could
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  Speaker 1: you keep fine tuning it forever?
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, for sure, yeah.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: So that's a real possibility. You can overdo it?
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. The powers that be will give you
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: a deadline if you want certain things to happen. You know, like,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: do you want your vinyl to come, to be out,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: to be ready by when the record's ready you know
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: things like that so you kind of they put a
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: you know they give you a buffer because they know
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: you're not going to have it in time they got
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: a buffer for the buffer they got they got like
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: a eight week buffer I think that they put on
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: me but those time those time limits are are healthy
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: I think you know because especially I mean it's not
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: like we weren't working I mean we worked really hard
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: on this album pretty much since tour was over I've
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: been writing and you know just Recording, all that. So,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, we recorded 50 or 51 songs and cut
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: 13 or 14. Wow.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: So what happens to a lot? You just kind of
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: decide this doesn't fit here right now?
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some of the songs were songs that I wrote.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Some of them weren't. So if I didn't write them,
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: then they'll just, whatever happens to them, not up to
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: me anymore. And then if I did, you know, who knows?
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: I might make a side project. project of something if
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: you know something that has nothing to do with my
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: name i've always kind of wanted to do that anyway
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: you know just kind of figure out a way to
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't be my voice it wouldn't i don't know
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: how you do that i'm sure there's all kinds of
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: ways to go about it now you know these days
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: but oh yeah but not be my name not my
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: voice not be any kind of style of music that
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: i that i normally do you know just to see
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: what happens to it yeah it might be like house
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: music or something you know i don't.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Know pretty sick dude Yeah, dude, if you had house music.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, people would, if they saw my name on it,
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: they would, I don't want it to have my name
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: on it. I want to just see what happens if
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: it just gets put out into the world. You know,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: maybe I'll like put it on a story or something,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: whoever it is, you know, Dream Jacker or whatever the
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: team is, but whatever the name of the guy is.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: Wet Dream Jacker, that'd be mine.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Dream Jacking, currently. I mean, me and my buddies were
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: talking about this topic the other day, actually. I don't know.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: It might actually happen.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Putting out something secret, low-key? Yeah. Creating something? Yeah. Yeah, well,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I bet, because that's an interesting thing. It's like once
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: you kind of have made a name in one space,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard. You can't, you know, you almost have,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: if you want to get a real test of what
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: people think of something, you kind of have to secretly
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: do it some other way.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it wouldn't even be similar to the type
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: of music that I'm doing.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Totally, I understand that.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: It would be nothing even close to what I'm doing now.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: It would be like, I mean, I like house music
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: a little bit. So I'll listen to it working out
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: or driving or stuff, you know, like melodic stuff. Like
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I feel
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: like a lot of that stuff doesn't necessarily have... uh,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of words and stuff, you know? So maybe
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: what if I took a song of mine that didn't
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: make my album, but it's got a story, it's got
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: all these things, you know, what if, what would people,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: would people like that?
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Dude, I've thought this, I thought, started
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: thinking of this about two years ago. So they have
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: like ED, you go to these nightclubs and stuff and
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: they'll have like, um, John Summit, these different kinds of
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: guys who are playing like, um, house like trance or whatever,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's just people doing dope really late
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: at night and just doing like this, you know, whatever
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: that is.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know the difference between all of those styles
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: of music. It's like, it's one style of music. I
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: know there's sub genres and all that, but yeah.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Same. I don't have a clue, but I'm always like,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: why don't they have a, like a more like country
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: or like, why is it always like if they had
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: remixes of a lot of great country music like that
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: and you put it to that same type of shit
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: that because a lot of people want to still go
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: have that environment but I don't sometimes you get tired
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: of that music it just gets kind of old so
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: if they had remixes of some dope country shit I'm
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like if they had two country DJs that came out
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like it would be so sick just doing
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: remixes and shit.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: It would be cool I'm surprised they don't have that
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: already me.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Too me and Kayla Presley thought about trying to do
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: it but then it was just like just don't have
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of time you know And that becomes something too.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: It's like, there's things you want to do and you
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: just don't have enough time, you know?
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: And that's, it's smart for you to realize that. I mean,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: it'd be like, well, I'm going to quit my job.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: It pays all my bills and, you know, go be
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: a Mason. It's like, well, maybe don't do that. So, yeah.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Just fucking remix it. Fucking Brooks and Dunn. Um, before
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: you go, man, uh, You have some amazing artists that
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: are going to be on some of these tour dates
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Did you have to call them individually and ask them?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: How'd that kind of go? Because some of these are idols, really,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: in the industry.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I feel, you know, Miranda, I'm good friends with Miranda.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: I'm good friends with Brooks and Dunn.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: So that was pretty easy?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, there was already mutual interest. That's something
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: that's kind of been a conversation for a little bit
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: longer than just, you know, this year. So that one
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: kind of just worked itself out between them and my managers.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I'm good friends with Thomas Redd as well.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: He's nice, huh?
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: He's super nice.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: God, what a nice guy. He lives nearby, I think.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right. It just all kind of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: happened pretty naturally. But, I mean, it's unbelievable to me.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I haven't really– this page that's pulled up, I mean,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: just to see the people that are– that are opening
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: for me. It's like, it doesn't even make sense.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Miranda Ella Langley. She's a new, yeah, she's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: a bad-ass or she's newly more popular. Yeah. I'm not
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: going to say she's new. I don't know about her history.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: I don't either, but Miranda Corey can, I'm not familiar
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: with him. If it's a man, it is.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He's good too.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to check him out.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: And Wilson, she's, she's a Christian artist, um, by trait,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: but she's, you know, dabbling in the country music world. She's,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: she's really good. Um, You know, she's on our agency, so.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: She is?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: You started off to check her out. Oh, Gavin Adcock's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: With you, too? Yeah, he's a wild man.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: That fucking guy's a wild dude.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: I love that guy, man.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, dude, yeah. He's walking like, I see he'll eat
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: a fucking, he'll eat a damn three-pack. I saw him
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: eat a three-pack of beers.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: He probably did.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, he'll eat fucking two beers, dude. Yeah, he doesn't
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: give a damn, dude. he played offensive line for bud
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: light for a couple of years. I think there is
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: nobody like him.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: He's definitely outlandish. One of those things, those military, one
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: of those MREs or whatever, he just got beer in there.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: But he, he's a, he's entertaining. He's got, he's got
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: a good voice too. And his, his music seems like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: he's just keeps getting better too. So I'm, I'm happy
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: for him, man.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: I got to tap in more with him. I saw
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: him play with the kid rocking him on one of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: his shows last year. Dude, I'll say this. Bob Ritchie,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: his live performance, dude.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: No, he'll let him have it, won't he?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Bro, I was fucking, I mean, I know, you know,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: but I didn't, it was good.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: I've never seen it firsthand, but I can imagine.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I knew it would be, but it's just
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: been some time, you know. It's hard to keep up,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, being out there for two hours,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, you guys get– I mean, it's a lot, man.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: It is, man. It can be for sure. I mean,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: depends on how often you do it too, you know.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're doing it– some people, I guess,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: still do it three nights a week. I'm just going
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: to do it two because it feels like a disservice
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: to me and everyone else to do it three days
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: in a row, you know. But two seems like a
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: good sweet spot. You can– as long– you know, you
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: play the show– probably don't go to bed till three
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: four in the morning just because you're so wound up.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah you're up people visit and you got to say
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: bye to everybody all that.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Shit well i don't do all that anymore much but
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: even if your family's there yeah but even still they
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: know what the priorities are at this point so if
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: i if i play a show you'll head out which
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: my boy if my boy's with me he'll be asleep
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: already anyway so i'll just we head straight out don't
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: stick around i try to go to bed as soon
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: as possible usually like i said don't have no three
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: or four Then you try your best to sleep till noon, one, two,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: as late as you possibly can just because of your
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: voice after doing all that. You know, you need all
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: that rest. So it's become a little bit more like
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: a regimen for me, which is good. You know, I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: got a vocal coach and all that stuff too now.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: So it's just like, it's like a whole boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: This is how it is now, you know, and that
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: seems to help me a lot.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. When I was a
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: little younger, I could do those, I could do, you know,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: some of those stretches and now I'm like, I don't,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I wish I, When I do see them on the schedule,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit tougher. Not comparing comedy and what,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: No, but you're, I mean, it is. But it's still
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: the same thing.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: It's like a regimen. It's like, yeah, I got to
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: sleep in late. And it's like, well, that kind of
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: sucks because now it's like, it's kind of hard if
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: you wake up at 10 to go back to sleep
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: for two more hours just because it's light out.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: It's really hard.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: It's hard, but you know you need that two more
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: hours of sleep. Otherwise, I'm going to be edgy, you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: and I won't be able to, I might not want
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to go work out. Just all the little things, like.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It's important.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Because it's just about getting yourself back on the stage
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: for that next thing. When it's time to go, it's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: time to go.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, back in the day, I mean, which
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: we weren't playing two-hour shows back then either, you know,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: but we would play six shows in one week, you know.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: So I don't know how– I mean, it just had
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: to be young, I guess, you know. I mean, it
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: wasn't like we were– the only regimen then was sleep
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: till four, start drinking at five. You know what I mean?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Like that's what it was then, and we're going to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: be good. Ain't that right? Yeah.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Bro, hell yeah, that's the Gavin Adcock National Anthem.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think back in the day, if I had
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: a camera on me like Adcock does now, they would
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: be probably saying some similar stuff about me, but he's
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: a little more bold with it, I guess, than I was.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Well, he's really, yeah. Oh, dude, he'll be on stage.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: People are throwing fucking beers. He just has beers bouncing
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: off of him. He's an animal, dude. He'll be like,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the PA system's shut down, but we're going to still
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: fucking perform. He'll hollow out a beer can and just
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: yell out of it and shit. He's fucking doing all
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: kinds of shit. He is ballsy, dude. His personality's cool.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: He's a fun guy. Very entertaining. I've got to tap
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: into more of his music. I haven't listened to a
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: lot of his music.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to get him on here.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do need to. People say that we look
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: alike a little bit, but I think they're just being
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: nice to me.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: To you or him One of us One of us, dude.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got your drink here, man You brought
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: this today That real tea How's it going?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Real tea Man, it seems to be Seems to be
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: progressing nicely It's good, I like it I like it
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: on ice better Yeah, bro But I've always liked sweet
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: tea better on ice I mean, you know, because I've
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: been I'm trying to eat and live and drink And
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: all that stuff clean So for something that's actually You know, healthy,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: it's good. Yeah. Yeah, it's good for sure.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I like it. I like having a nice little can
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: of tea or something. I'll keep a couple in the car.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I'll drink them warm even.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Do you?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get a whole one in me at a stoplight.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't do all that.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: You don't? No.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: My drummer told me one time he had drank, like,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: I can't remember how many, you know, like 13 or
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: something ungodly in a short amount of time, said, Damn, man.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: You're going to have kidney stones for sure.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe he'll have a band, a cover band of
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the Rolling Stones. It's called Kidney Stones. Kidney Stones. Is
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: there a song sometimes of your own that you'll listen
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: to or one that catches you sometimes and it'll kind
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: of catch in your feels a little bit? Is there
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: any one that you're like.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, the song I wrote to my son
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: is the song.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, the one that's not out yet.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that does that. It'll be out soon, but I mean.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: It's also one of those things to where, you know,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: I've tried so many times to write a song like
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: that for him and it always fell flat. So I'd
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: listen to it on the way home or whatever after
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: we wrote it and I'd be like, that's good, you know,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: but it's not, it's not how I want it. And
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: I also didn't want to write like a song to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: him that was all, I don't know, sappy and, slow
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: and you know just like what you would expect a
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: dad son song to be you know I wish you
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: wouldn't grow up you know all that like I didn't
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: want it to be that I.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: Wanted another birthday cake yeah it's like I didn't want
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: that song at all that song's been written plenty enough
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: so and I wanted it to keep like have a
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: little bit of my my sound and my swag and
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: just like and to be honest you know so it
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: was a hard thing to try to get all those
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: things wrapped up into one song and what it's called
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: superman is what it's called and i feel like we
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: accomplished that.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: When i was when we wrote it and i was
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: riding home it was actually the last song that made
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: my record so it's not like i've had it for
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: a long time you know it took us a while
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: to to get that song and um it was actually
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: blake one of my buddy blake's it was his idea
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: and the hook was different though it said superman I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: don't remember what the hook was exactly, but I was
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: just singing it, and I was like, oh, I know
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: I know what it is And I changed I changed
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: the hook And it like It made it It was
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: like Oh there it is Unlocked And we all All
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: three of us Or four of us in the room
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: Just kind of was like Oh yeah that's it You
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: know And then on the way home I was listening
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: to it And started crying And That's the first time
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: That it happened With a song For him So that's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: I kind of knew Yeah.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: That's cool man Yeah, man, there's one thing I've always
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: thought you had very good instincts, man. I've always admired
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: your instincts, you know, whether it's humor, we're joking around, whatever.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: You're fucking sharp, dude. You're a sharp fucking guy. And yeah,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: it's been I appreciate you just support my podcast. And,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: you know, it's nice of you. And thanks for all
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: the great music, man. That one about the mom. Oh,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: I wrote the book. And that one sometimes.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: That's one of my favorites still.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: If I'm driving home at night or something, I listen
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: to that one, dude. You know, that's a good one.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: That was like kind of puts me in a good spot,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: you know? Yeah.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: I like that one too, man.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And what's the one about the mom?
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: You talking about my mom?
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Thought you should know.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one. Yeah. God, that one. God damn, dude.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: I pull over and cry sometimes.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: Do you really?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, you can't cry and drive, you little bitch.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: This goes back to what you were talking about, thinking
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: and motion and all that stuff.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It is, dude. All I guess is too much.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Morgan Wallen, man. One of the most prolific artists, I think,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: ever on the face of the earth, man. It's a pleasure, dude.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I feel lucky to get to know your cousin. He
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: and I are close. And, yeah, just thanks for all
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: the entertainment on behalf of everybody. And it's just been...
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  Speaker 1: It's been a gift, man.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, man. I say the same to you. I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate everything that you do for me.
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  Speaker 1: Cheers, brother. Excited for the new album. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm just floating on the breeze And I feel
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  Speaker 2: I'm falling like these leaves I must be cornerstone.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, but when I.
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  Speaker 2: Reach that ground I'll share this peace of mind I
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  Speaker 2: found I can feel it in my bones