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I Am All In…Again: In Omnia Paratus (Season 5 E7 “You Jump, I Jump Jack”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Again! More, more, more. I want
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  Speaker 1: to kiss you more. More, more, more.
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  Speaker 2: I want to kiss you more.
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  Speaker 1: I am all in.
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  Speaker 2: Again, with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Scott Patterson, iHeartRadio Podcast, 111 Productions, iHeartRadio Media,
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  Speaker 1: iHeart Podcast. We have... what amounts to be the, one
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  Speaker 1: of the biggest episodes in all of Gilmore girls, season five,
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  Speaker 1: episode seven. And we have, it's a, you jump by Jack.
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  Speaker 1: I jumped Jack November two, 2004, but we have a
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  Speaker 1: special guest, Catherine Bayless. She played gorilla girl also known as,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, a lot of, a lot of girls
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be gorilla girl, but Catherine snagged the role.
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  Speaker 1: And as part of the Life and Death Brigade. And
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  Speaker 1: we had her on 2023. Now she's back to recap
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  Speaker 1: her iconic episode, You Jump, I Jump. Jack, welcome. Catherine Bailiff.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Hello, Scott Patterson. How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Great, great, great to have you back. This is one
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  Speaker 1: of the most iconic episodes of the entire series. And
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  Speaker 1: to top it off, it was directed by Kenny Ortega.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Tell us more about working on this
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  Speaker 1: episode with Kenny.
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  Speaker 2: Um, well, first of all, working with Kenny Otrego was
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  Speaker 2: iconic and who knew that the episode was going to
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  Speaker 2: be iconic. But, um, I remember walking into the table
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  Speaker 2: read and I almost like couldn't even talk. He's so fabulous.
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  Speaker 2: And he did dirty dancing and I'm a dancer. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: we could have been best friends if I was on
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  Speaker 2: a couple more episodes, I think, but like I'm obsessed
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  Speaker 2: with Kenny and he just is, um, an actor's director and,
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  Speaker 2: And I remember he was just so personable and he
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  Speaker 2: would really get in there and dig with you. And
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  Speaker 2: he didn't treat anyone differently. Like it was like, you
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  Speaker 2: could be an extra. And he was like, Hey, you
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  Speaker 2: over there, let's, let's come up with something for you.
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  Speaker 2: Like he always had something for people to do. And
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  Speaker 2: I think Kenny, that's where his light shines and he
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  Speaker 2: loves movement. So he likes busyness around. And when I
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  Speaker 2: was watching the episode just a little while ago, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, wow, everyone's doing something fun and, in the background,
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  Speaker 2: no matter where you are. And I think Kenny just
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  Speaker 2: has that touch.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that is a very astute observation. He is
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  Speaker 1: a master of movement and, you know, and this is
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  Speaker 1: what we always try to bring to bear in rehearsals,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the diner is movement, movement, movement, life, life, life.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's constant movement. There's large movements. There's tiny
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  Speaker 1: little microscopic movements and they all add up to make
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  Speaker 1: it seem real and he is absolutely an expert uh
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  Speaker 1: in that um how often do you hear from fans
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  Speaker 1: Catherine if they recognize you this that this is one
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  Speaker 1: of their favorite episodes they ever they ever come up
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  Speaker 1: to you and approach you and tell you how great
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  Speaker 1: this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Is you know they do you know it's funny my
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  Speaker 2: voice is very recognizable so people hear my voice and
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  Speaker 2: they go wait And they're like, wait, you're that girl.
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  Speaker 2: You're that girl from Gilmore Girls. And also One Tree
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  Speaker 2: Hill because, you know, both under the big CWWB roof. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is so weird. But the other day
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  Speaker 2: I was tagged on Instagram, right? And I went to
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  Speaker 2: the little like video or whatnot. And it was these
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  Speaker 2: girls that reenact the whole You Jump, I Jump, Jack episode.
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  Speaker 2: And one girl was me. And it was the all
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  Speaker 2: in Omnia Paradas thing. And I was like, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to be kidding me. These are grown women. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 2: like these, but the cool thing about this whole revival
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  Speaker 2: of Gilmore Girls from like the 2000s is like, these
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  Speaker 2: kids weren't even like born yet that are watching it now,
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  Speaker 2: you know? And I'm like, wow. And they're obsessed. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I feel like because the moms are like
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  Speaker 2: my age now or whatever, and then you've got these
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  Speaker 2: younger girls and it's a mom and daughter show, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's family too, but it really rings true to like
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  Speaker 2: the mom and daughter dynamic. And but, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: forget so many times, like the pacing of Gilmore Girls.
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  Speaker 2: And I wish I could have been on there more
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  Speaker 2: episodes because like that's my jam because I talk so fast.
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  Speaker 2: But y'all are so talented. You and your crew. I mean, man,
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  Speaker 2: it is it was so tight and it was just
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  Speaker 2: a well old machine. And the Palladinos, man, they rock.
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  Speaker 1: That was just pure fear. Fear. Fear. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 2: No, you're not.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? You know what? I was just in,
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  Speaker 1: I just spent the weekend in Amsterdam at a big
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  Speaker 1: convention there. And the thing that is amazing about this
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  Speaker 1: expansion of this fan base is that, you know, middle
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  Speaker 1: school girls and girls younger than that are discovering the
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  Speaker 1: show and they come to the convention. They've never come
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  Speaker 1: to a convention before. They have no idea what to
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  Speaker 1: expect coming to a fan convention. And they drive, drive,
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  Speaker 1: drive for hours and hours. Some coming from Germany, some
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  Speaker 1: are coming from France. And here they are in Holland.
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  Speaker 1: And they've only watched one season. They just discovered it
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  Speaker 1: like last week.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: They just became aware of the show a week ago.
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  Speaker 1: They've seen one, you know, maybe some of them have
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  Speaker 1: even seen just 10 episodes. And here they are driving
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  Speaker 1: for hours and hours and they want to say hello.
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  Speaker 1: And it's wild. It's wild how quickly the hook is
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  Speaker 1: sunk in to these fans. It's an amazing show.
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  Speaker 2: Kudos to y'all for like literally going and being the
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  Speaker 2: great people that you are and saying, hey, we want
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  Speaker 2: to meet you. Thank you for watching. Because I always
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  Speaker 2: say as an actor, I think the audience, I think
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  Speaker 2: that you're the only reason we're out here doing what
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  Speaker 2: we do. If we didn't have an audience, we wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be doing what we do. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I tell them that every time, like we do
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  Speaker 1: big panels and they show up and there's a thousand
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  Speaker 1: of them. And it's just like, I thank them every
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  Speaker 1: single time. I'm like, thank you because man, without you guys,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have jobs. But all right. How do you
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  Speaker 1: feel watching your episode back again? Did it, did it
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  Speaker 1: stir up any emotions?
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I didn't remember a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I know we talked about this three years ago, but like, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: I remember specifically like moments. I remember that. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: I remember getting the role and freaking out and like legit.
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  Speaker 2: I think we talked about this last time. My role
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  Speaker 2: to get it. I just had to act drunk. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a hard, it's hard to act drunk.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you that.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 2: So I did that, I guess, very well. But I
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  Speaker 2: had already auditioned for other stuff with, you know, casting
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  Speaker 2: and Jamie and Casey. But yeah, watching it back, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, wow, I was really young. Like, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that was 20, 24, no, 22 years ago. 22 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I just stepped foot into L.A. I'd only been there
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  Speaker 2: for two years.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So going back and watching and how much I've grown
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  Speaker 2: as an actress, but also just seeing how cool it
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  Speaker 2: is to see another character. Because I was on another show,
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  Speaker 2: hit the floor for a long time. And just to
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  Speaker 2: see me doing another character was interesting. But it was really.
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  Speaker 2: Nostalgic. I'll say that much because, but I feel like
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  Speaker 2: some of the, some of the scenes and some of
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  Speaker 2: the dialogue was way above its time. Like it's very
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  Speaker 2: current now. Some of the stuff that we talked about,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I was kind of noticing as well. And
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  Speaker 2: I just, I kind of, I kind of miss that
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  Speaker 2: era of our life, like the 2004s, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? But it was, it was a very humble
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  Speaker 2: time too. Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Palladinos had a crystal ball. Me too.
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  Speaker 1: Or they made a deal with the devil or something.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the heck happened. Yeah. But how
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  Speaker 1: does something like this just happen? I think there's some
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  Speaker 1: supernatural background here. We're going to get into that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have Amy on the show and we'll go and really
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  Speaker 1: put her feet to the fire. How did this happen?
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  Speaker 2: I have seen the Palladino since working on the show
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  Speaker 2: because I was going to tell you this. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: tell you this last time. This is crazy. So you
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  Speaker 2: know y'all did the revival, right?
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I get a call for an audition to come
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  Speaker 2: in and play a role. And I'm going, you mean Stephanie?
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  Speaker 2: They're like, no, another role. And I'm like, huh.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't think the Palladinas were going to be
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  Speaker 2: in my casting session. Oh, they were. And I walk
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  Speaker 2: in and I'm getting ready. I'm talking to them and
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  Speaker 2: they go, huh, wait. We know you. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: i was like yeah you do you know and i'm
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  Speaker 2: like wait you were in life and death brigade i'm
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  Speaker 2: like yep i'm stephanie like oh my god and i'm
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  Speaker 2: sure their wheels were like turning because this character was
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  Speaker 2: not stephanie you know what i mean but they could
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  Speaker 2: have like could have made her that came back or
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  Speaker 2: whatnot but uh it was very interesting i didn't get
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  Speaker 2: the role but i was like golly i wanted them
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  Speaker 2: to be like hmm let's bring her back but Talk
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  Speaker 2: about bringing back. They did want to bring me back,
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  Speaker 2: but I got One Tree Hill and, you know, North Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles, it was too far away to do both roles. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't miss the beat.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Synopsis, Luke officially meets the Gilmore's
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  Speaker 1: In a boyfriend capacity in Rory Enters the World of
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  Speaker 1: Secret Societies at Yale, Kenny Ortega directed. Dan Palladino wrote it.
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  Speaker 1: Rory and the Life and Death Brigade. Here we go, Catherine.
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  Speaker 1: Rory's listening to a voicemail from Dean. Poor Dean. That guy.
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  Speaker 1: Saying he's too busy to meet up. Oh, Dean, what
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  Speaker 1: a mistake. And it seems like she isn't interested that
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  Speaker 1: much anyway, but she perks up when she receives a
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  Speaker 1: mysterious message from the Life and Death Brigade. Rory heads
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  Speaker 1: to the event, a black SUV, blindfolded with Logan, Finn, Stephanie,
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  Speaker 1: your character, and Colin. And it's a fancy camp out
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  Speaker 1: where everybody's dressed. It's a safari theme. Nobody is saying E's.
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  Speaker 1: They're not saying the letter E's. She talks to Stephanie
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  Speaker 1: about what's going on. but she can't say much and
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  Speaker 1: suggests that she gets in line for Logan. Uh, whatever
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  Speaker 1: that means. Uh, Rory takes a break away from the campground.
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  Speaker 1: Logan joins her and lays out the conditions of her story.
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  Speaker 1: No pictures, no names, no physical descriptions, no identification of
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  Speaker 1: their location and must agree not to interfere with the
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  Speaker 1: integrity of the event. Man, this must've cost somebody a
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  Speaker 1: pretty penny. It's a pretty, pretty elaborate setup. Uh, The
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  Speaker 1: next morning, Logan asked Rory to wear a blue ball
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  Speaker 1: gown for the event where everybody's playing games and there's
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  Speaker 1: a big scaffolding almost seven stories high. Logan tells Rory
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  Speaker 1: there's an open spot to jump because Finn isn't able to.
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  Speaker 1: He convinces her by naming a lot of famous journalists
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  Speaker 1: who participated in their story saying she needs a little adventure.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be a thrill. Something stupid, something bad for you,
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  Speaker 1: just something different. You know, he says his famous... famous quote,
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  Speaker 1: which a lot of fans know and love, people can
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  Speaker 1: live 100 years without living for a minute. You climb
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  Speaker 1: up here with me, it's one less minute you haven't lived.
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  Speaker 1: And he should have continued, and it might be your
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  Speaker 1: last minute living, but what the hell? Take a shot, kid.
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  Speaker 1: She musters up the courage, climbs, and right before she jumps,
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  Speaker 1: she says, you jump, I jump, Jack. The line from Titanic.
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  Speaker 1: It holds Logan's hand I wonder if Amy had to
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  Speaker 1: pay a royalty to James Cameron for the usage of that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's another question that I need to ask her if
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  Speaker 1: she ever deigns to come on this podcast. No pun intended.
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  Speaker 1: Holds Logan's hand. She joyfully and she's joyful. She calls
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  Speaker 1: it all at once in a lifetime experience. Back home,
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  Speaker 1: someone knocks on her door in a gorilla mask, champagne
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  Speaker 1: or camera on the doorstep. She looks at photos. of
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  Speaker 1: her big jump and smiles. This is a pretty grand set.
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  Speaker 1: And you mentioned in your previous chat, you had a
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  Speaker 1: shoot all night with the Life and Death crew. What
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  Speaker 1: was the environment like on those long shoots?
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  Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I remember everyone just kind of, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: being in the dark. I remember it was very dark.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't really have a lot of lights going on.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? So they made it moody.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember all of us can, you know, sit
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  Speaker 2: around and wait. That's what we do on set. But
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  Speaker 2: we became pretty tight, like all the boys and me,
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  Speaker 2: because that's what it was. It literally was part of
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  Speaker 2: the boys crew. And I became pretty close to Alexis too. Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I love it when actors are loose enough
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  Speaker 2: to like, you know, okay, we're going to put this aside,
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  Speaker 2: put our roles aside right now. And just like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: become friends a little bit because you're in each other's
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  Speaker 2: faces 24 seven. You know what I mean? You don't
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  Speaker 2: want to be, you know what I mean? So now
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  Speaker 2: I do remember, really becoming close to everybody. And it
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  Speaker 2: felt like longer than eight nights. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: That we shot or whatever it was back then. Was
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  Speaker 2: it eight days, an episode or 10? I forget.
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  Speaker 1: Eight. Eight. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So no longer because we were all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: We were in, I remember we were up in some
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  Speaker 2: Hills shooting that scene. Then we were at Disney ranch
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  Speaker 2: doing the jump scene. And then we were on, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the lot doing the suburban scenes and everything. So jumping around.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Well, the jumping scene is the most memorable
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  Speaker 1: in the episode of this of this narrative. But what
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  Speaker 1: more behind the scenes details can you give fans?
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  Speaker 2: Well, on the Disney branch, the jumping scene, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: nobody knew this. And I think I mentioned this last time.
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  Speaker 2: There were bees everywhere. It was awful. Kenny had us
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  Speaker 2: with champagne. You know, it was bright or some kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the bees were swarming us. And I mean, he's like,
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  Speaker 2: can you please not make faces? You're very happy. You're
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  Speaker 2: not swatting at the bees. There's no bees. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get bitten. But I remember that was
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  Speaker 2: one of the ones that like, nobody knew about that.
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  Speaker 2: I remember there were definitely, you know, body doubles, a
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  Speaker 2: lot of body doubles for the jumping scenes and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: I remember Logan and Alexis, or Rory jumping from a
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  Speaker 2: teeny tiny little box down.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like they wanted to catch every single nuance. So they
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  Speaker 2: made it look unbelievable, you know, but there were a
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  Speaker 2: lot of bits and pieces that they got to that.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Well, Rory's being pushed out of her comfort zone
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  Speaker 1: and a whole new world is opening up with Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Logan being introduced into the show. What, what are you,
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  Speaker 1: are your impressions of the two of them so far?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, they're completely like opposite, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she meets him, she's intrigued.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously this is what Stephanie was trying to say,
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  Speaker 2: like get in line. Like every single girl wants him,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's hot. Like, and he's kind of like
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  Speaker 2: a bad boy situation, but, um, but she, she, something she,
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  Speaker 2: I think feel like she's never gone after or somebody
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  Speaker 2: like that after her, she's used to all the other
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  Speaker 2: Gilmore boys.
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  Speaker 1: Um, but right. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But I think their chemistry was pretty right on from
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  Speaker 2: the beginning, the two of them. And I tell you what,
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  Speaker 2: Matt Zucree, I think I said this before, but he's
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  Speaker 2: like one of the like hardest working actors. When I,
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  Speaker 2: when I saw him preparing, I was like, dude, this
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  Speaker 2: guy is in it. I mean, just saying he he's,
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  Speaker 2: he's really, really, really great actor. And so, and so
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  Speaker 2: is Alexis. I mean, she, she's everything. She's just listening
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  Speaker 2: and with you and giving, but yeah, But, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: knew from after that episode, I was like, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to get married or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's my hope. I like him best for her.
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  Speaker 1: Who do you like for Rory? This is the question
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  Speaker 1: that they want us to be obsessed with. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get obsessed with it.
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  Speaker 2: Who do I like?
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  Speaker 1: All right. Do you like Dean? You like them together?
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  Speaker 1: You like them? He's the baby daddy. You like that one. Dean.
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  Speaker 2: Dean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. I guess, I guess, I guess not. You
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  Speaker 1: don't have to answer that. All right. What about Jess? Jess,
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  Speaker 1: you want Jess? You think he's so cute? He's such
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  Speaker 1: a cute boy.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody likes to look at him for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So looks fade. Let's go. What's left? He gets
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  Speaker 1: into an industrial accident. He's not as good looking anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the deal? Are they together? So you have
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  Speaker 1: a good soul, good heart. You think he's going to mature.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's going to be successful. Or is it Logan?
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  Speaker 1: Who do you like? Who do you like?
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of biased of Logan.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of do too. I've come around to Logan.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I do. Yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. All right. Luke meets the Gilmores.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Boyfriend capacity. And they really had to search all the
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: shops that were open for that capacity. Emily finds out
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: about Luke through Kirk, of all people. So now she
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: insists on meeting him. And of course, when Emily calls
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: you to the castle, you must come, even though they've
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: already met. But in a boyfriend capacity, no. Lauren doesn't
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: want Luke to do it, but he agrees anyway. Yep.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Because if he doesn't agree, we don't have an episode.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And I knew that. The night has come and Emily
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: calls Luke's diner and his rustic truck and off offers
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: him a beer and talks about eating roadkill at a diner.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Isn't she something Emily? What a charmer. Uh, it's like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: what is this person doing up from steerage? Get rid
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: of him. Uh, Lorelai tries to tell Luke she's talking
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: down to him. But he reassures her he can handle it. Afterwards, see,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: this is not what you love about Luke. He's just like, yeah, whatever. Yeah.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Don't bother me. He holds his frame. He knows who
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: he is. He's not, you know. He knows how that
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: this is just born out of insecurity that this woman
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: is so tough.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Afterwards, Luke complains about Emily's talent of insulting him without
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: being direct. Does he complain? Anyway, Richard then calls Luke
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: at his diner and wants to meet for golf the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: next day. So Lorelei disapproves and calls Richard and asks
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: him not to go. But Richard says Emily got to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: meet him, so he should get his chance as well.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Luke shows up at the country club, buys his own clubs,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: tries golfing. Boy, that must have cost him a pretty
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: penny to buy his own clubs at that country club.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Must have been a fortune. He tries to golf. He's
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: not very good. Richard brings up franchising Luke's diner. Hey,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: there's an idea. Huh? Is anybody listening? He has plans
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: and goes on and on about everything. All right, so
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Luke makes a call to Lorelei while he is drunk.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: He's had a few drinks at the country club, saying
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he agreed to franchising, and he has an art dealer now.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: It's so funny. Emily then comes to the pool house
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: later and yells at Richard for parading Luke around the
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: club and that he shouldn't support this relationship because he
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: isn't good enough for Laurel. You know what? Emily needs
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: to make up her damn mind about her daughter. She's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: either not good enough and she's ridiculed and shamed and
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: silenced at every Friday night dinner or she's too good for,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know, regular folks, right? Yes.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of these women. I'm from the South.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: A lot of mamas. A lot of mamas are like this. Emily,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: let me tell you, I ain't going to name no
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: names now.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's only natural. Every mother wants the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: best for her daughter. I get it. Laura seems like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: herself with Luke. That's the beauty of it. He doesn't
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: find it odd. I mean, he does at times, but
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: he just likes it. He likes her shtick. And Lorelei's
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: happy about this. It's hard to find somebody that lets
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you be yourself, isn't it? It's not easy. And Emily
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and Richard are stuck, sticking to their guns, and they
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: don't really notice her happiness. Of course, they're not paying
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: attention to the right things. Luke steps up to the plate,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: wants to do this for Lorelai, which is admirable. How
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: do you think he handled both Emily and Richard?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was shocked. He's probably the most chill, down-to-earth
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: character I've ever seen. I felt like he didn't put
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: on a show. He just was himself. That's what it was.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I am what I am. You get
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: what you get. And that's why Lorelai loves him. That's
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: why America loves Luke, because he is so opposite than
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the Gilmore's.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the antidote to snobbery.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Isn't he?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: He just doesn't like people in a different way, in
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: a very appealing way. Yeah. Good old Luke. Anyway, all right,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: let's get to Lane and Zach. Now, when I say
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Lane and Zach, what do you think, Catherine? Do you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: automatically go to Lane and Dave? Do you miss Dave Rogalski? No.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I think Lane and Zach is a cute little quirky relationship.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I think they kind of fit. I mean, there's their
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: little awkwardness and that scene when they're like, uh, this
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: is a date. I think the guy sits and be like, wait,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: but last night I said here, no, no, no, tonight, no, no,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: it's a date tonight. Like, the writing's so cute.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: All right, so Zach comes to Luke's diner with Lane
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: and Lane's working. And he tells her he's ready now
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to take her on a date. She smiles. She lights up.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: All right, so then Zach picks up Lane for their
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: date at their apartment where they both live, but they
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: end up just hanging out in the living room. Brian
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: joins them, but they shoo him away. to Lane's room
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: as we all have done we have all had Brian's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: buzzing around in our teenage and 20s years and shooed
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: them away Zach and Lane finished a movie and a
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: pizza date in the living room they tell each other
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: goodnight at Lane's door but Brian is asleep on her
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: bed geez Zach throws him over his shoulder and they
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: kiss not Zach and Brian don't kiss it's Lane and
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Zach are kissing but he's still holding Brian All right,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: so Lane and Zach are starting their courtship. You think
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: they're a good pair? I mean, it's a little awkward, right?
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: No?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It's totally awkward. But that's kind of what you like
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: about it, the awkwardness.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: That's what I like about it. Yeah, I'm a little skeptical.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I want to see how this develops. I'm like a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: lot of fans. I miss Dave Rogalski. I thought he
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: was the most excellent chap and clever person. and knows
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: how to handle Mrs. Kim. I think we are yet
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to see Zach and Mrs. Kim in a scene together.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe I just can't remember it, but I don't know
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that he would fare as well. All right, so look,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: what are you up to these days? Enough about this
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: show and this great episode. Katherine, what are you up
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to these days?
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Well, the last time I talked to you, you asked
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: me a question. about who you're all in for. And
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm pregnant. And now that's three years
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: later and I have a beautiful three-year-old son.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's been nice. Oh, that's so great.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Name is Miles.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: He is the love of my life. So is my husband.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Isn't that wonderful to have a son? Isn't it just
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the best? That's your first child?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: First and only.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Oh, Yep. Yep. It is.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, he is just, and he's got this huge
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: personality and I have a big personality too, you know, but, but,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you know, I love to sing and dance and he just,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to just enjoy the arts, which
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: makes me happy. Like last night I went to the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: theater to see the sound of music at the teapot
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: here in Nashville. And he just wanted to go so badly,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you know, and three, three, That's my life right now.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I'm a mom and enjoying every single minute of it.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: You know, the first, I tell you, three years are
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: pretty tough. I mean, granted, they can say no to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: you a lot more.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: You know, he hasn't discovered dad yet, but he will.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And then you'll miss him. You'll get jealous. About five
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: years old, they notice dad. Oh, yeah. But listen, I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: know people tell you this all the time, but it
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: goes fast. I blinked and my son's 12 and it's
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: just so wild. It's just so wild. Time compresses when
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you have children.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: One kid. One kid.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We got it right the first time. It's just,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: it's the best. It is the best. It's daily miracles,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: daily laughter, all day laughter. Yeah. You know, lack of sleep,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. So what? It's just so worth it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: It's just weird. I'm talking to you now, but when
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I was pregnant with him, I was like, what is
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: your life going to be like? You have no clue.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Who is going to be this human? What's he going
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: to look like? What's he going to talk like? And
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: now that he's here, I'm like, wow, he's perfect to me.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It's just so amazing. So that's great news. I don't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: know how we can top that. No. It was wonderful
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: talking to you. Get back to your son. He needs you.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Thank you for your time. And you're always welcome back.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Scott.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Whether you're in an episode or not. And best fans
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: on the planet, even in Holland. It's amazing how this
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: show makes people react. I hear the same things from
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: fans in Holland or Germany or the UK or Europe.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Southern United States or Canada, it's, it's, it's just this
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: sort of experience that people have this therapeutic kind of
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: medicinal experience that people have with this show. And I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: meet so many boyfriends and husbands who say, she watches
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it all the time, man. I say, I know, I know.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And he goes, you know what? It's pretty damn good show.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I said, yep, it is, you know? So to the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: guys out there, I salute you. And, uh, Thanks for
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: coming on. And best fans on the planet, remember, where
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you lead, we will follow. Stay safe, everyone. Hey, everybody,
• 29:49
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• 29:53
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