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Assassin’s Motive, Gen Z’s Nihilism & The Death of Reason | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: Fundamental principles of freedom, rational self interest and individual whilst. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I will answer them tomorrow, so all answers, all questions
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  Speaker 1: will be answered.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, feel fee to jump in with questions. We
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  Speaker 2: have our usual two our goal going and yeah, let's
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  Speaker 2: start with Charlie Cook. The assassination of Charlie Cook last week,
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  Speaker 2: and of course we now have the murderer in custody,
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  Speaker 2: or at least the presume murderer in custody.
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  Speaker 1: As of the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: At least the indications were that that he was not
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  Speaker 2: being coopetive, that is, he was not talking, he was
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  Speaker 2: not being forthcoming in terms of why he did it,
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  Speaker 2: what his motivations were, and all of that, and whether
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  Speaker 2: there were other people.
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  Speaker 1: Involved, and so we still don't know firsthand.
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  Speaker 2: We still don't know from him at least what exactly
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  Speaker 2: was going on, and we certainly don't know. We certainly
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  Speaker 2: don't know again, if others at least knew of what
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  Speaker 2: he was planning to do, whether he shed the information,
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  Speaker 2: and that.
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  Speaker 1: Again will find out more.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure as the Feds look through his social media
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  Speaker 2: stuff and and try to try to put it all together.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, there are many, many, many theories out
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  Speaker 2: there about what his motive was and of course we'll
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  Speaker 2: get to the most obvious motive. You know that that
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  Speaker 2: Arkham's raizer suggests the one that's most obvious is the
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  Speaker 2: one that's real.
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  Speaker 1: But on a number you'll see a number.
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  Speaker 2: Of particularly on Twitter, a number of people coming out
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  Speaker 2: there and explaining.
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  Speaker 1: How all the all the symbols that he wrote down,
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  Speaker 1: all the all the stuff.
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  Speaker 2: All memes, some games, uh, and these are all you know.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the big explanations is that he is
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  Speaker 2: really a groper, a black pilled groper.
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  Speaker 1: I know such thing.
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  Speaker 2: A black pilled groper is somebody who believes that there
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  Speaker 2: is no future. His life is doomed, the world is doomed.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get over indeed, let's excel. Let's accelerate the end.
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  Speaker 2: Let's accelerate the doom, let's accelerate the decline. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: so these are people who nihilists acknowledge nihilists. They don't
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  Speaker 2: believe there's anything positive in the world, nothing positive in
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  Speaker 2: their lives, and they want to build and they want
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  Speaker 2: explicitly to bring death and destruction to the world. These
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  Speaker 2: are not your typical far right kind of Christian nationalists.
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  Speaker 1: Who have a vision of the future. I want to
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  Speaker 1: bring about a particular kind of future.
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  Speaker 2: These are yeah, these are called them in this case,
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  Speaker 2: probably right wing, I think, is the way terminology nihilists
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  Speaker 2: who just want to burn everything down explicitly, so there's
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  Speaker 2: no other motivation. It's driven by hate of this world
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  Speaker 2: and frustration and depression over the fact that they cannot
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  Speaker 2: find a place in the this world, and the convinced
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  Speaker 2: that the world is.
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  Speaker 1: Doomed and they want to help make it doomed anyway.
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  Speaker 2: That that is one of the interpretations out there, and
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  Speaker 2: he belongs to one of these. This is all LinkedIn nifuentes.
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  Speaker 2: Although I don't know if Nick Pointis is a black
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  Speaker 2: pilled GOPO or just a GOPA. But there's a whole
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  Speaker 2: mass of literature out there about what they are and
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  Speaker 2: what they stand for.
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  Speaker 1: And but but but they're racist.
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  Speaker 2: They tend to be white supremacists, uh and uh nationalists and.
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  Speaker 1: Uh generally uh, you know, generally bad bad, bad people
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  Speaker 1: and uh who are who have given up given up
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  Speaker 1: on life. I think though, that the more reasonable explanation
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  Speaker 1: is the more obvious explanation, and that is that.
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  Speaker 2: He was motivated by the idea the speech is violence
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  Speaker 2: and by the idea that Charlie Cook's speech, Charlie Cook's statements,
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  Speaker 2: Charlie Cook's arguments were offensive. Uh, and as a consequence,
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  Speaker 2: constituted violence, and he was doing the just honorable thing by.
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  Speaker 1: You know, killing Charlie Cook. Uh. You know, I think that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that there's there are roomors out there that
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  Speaker 2: his roommates and potential potential uh sexual partner is a
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  Speaker 2: man transitioning into a woman. So is trans h this person,
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  Speaker 2: the roommate is supposed to cooperating with the police and
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  Speaker 2: in police custody, in cooperating with them, one of the
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  Speaker 2: things they want to know is what did he know,
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  Speaker 2: when did he know it?
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  Speaker 1: And stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: But he's also providing information about what Tyler Robinson, what
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  Speaker 2: might have motivated Tyler Robinson. So it's likely that he
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  Speaker 2: was radicalized by the left, radicalized into kind of crazy
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  Speaker 2: nihilistic leftist ideology which again sees sees the world is
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  Speaker 2: pretty doomed and insists on the that the only positive
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  Speaker 2: outcome is complete equality.
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  Speaker 1: Is egalitarianism. It's a nihilistic, destructive ideology. He was probably.
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  Speaker 2: Influenced there by this, you know, a lover, a roommate
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  Speaker 2: who was who was trans, and if he felt like
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  Speaker 2: his lover was being dissed and put down by Charlie Cooke,
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  Speaker 2: if he felt like Charlie Cook was kind of leading
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  Speaker 2: the anti trans movement out there, and if, like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of leftists, he has bought into the idea, and
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  Speaker 2: like what's being taught at our universities, this is not
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  Speaker 2: just some crazy, out there, out of context left wing
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  Speaker 2: you know, leftist position. This is position of many people
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  Speaker 2: at our universities who were teaching. If he believed came
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  Speaker 2: to believe that speech is violence, then violence against violence
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  Speaker 2: is legit.
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  Speaker 1: It's self defense. So you know, if you think.
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  Speaker 2: About Charlie Cook being portrayed online as vehemently anti trans,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he got shot just as he was
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  Speaker 2: answering questions about trans issues, You've got a twenty two
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  Speaker 2: year old who wants to be the hero for uh,
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  Speaker 2: for for for the person he loves supposedly, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: who wants to be a hero to a whole community
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  Speaker 2: of nihilist leftists who uh, who want to see people
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  Speaker 2: like Charlie destroyed and who are fighting the establishment.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, I mean you can see why he
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  Speaker 1: did it.
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  Speaker 2: You can see that he becomes an instant hero to
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  Speaker 2: a variety of forums, communities, subredits, discord channels that.
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  Speaker 1: Of fall left radicals who.
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  Speaker 2: Believe that anybody who you know, who does not agree
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  Speaker 2: with their agenda visa the v trans people, for example,
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  Speaker 2: is therefore committee violence against them and it needs to
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  Speaker 2: be taken out.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna be interesting to see what actually out, But that
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  Speaker 2: seems to be the most likely explanation based on the
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  Speaker 2: data we have right now.
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  Speaker 1: People will try to spin in all kinds of directions.
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  Speaker 2: It is interesting because I'm learning a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 2: in the online world that I didn't know. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the far dark corners of the online far left far
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  Speaker 2: right a very very very ugly places. And the internet
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  Speaker 2: allows the people who dabble in this stuff right who
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  Speaker 2: used to be maybe isolated. There was no way for
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  Speaker 2: them to communicate, probably no way for them really to
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  Speaker 2: get organized, and no way for them to really.
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  Speaker 1: Feed off of each other.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they probably just I don't know, became more
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  Speaker 2: conventional haters. Now there is this amazing mechanism online to
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  Speaker 2: be able to communicate, get inspired by, you know, gain
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  Speaker 2: energy from all these other people who have joined your
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  Speaker 2: crazy little movement of you know, nihilistic again left or right,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter of nihilists. Mostly, I think this
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  Speaker 2: is something that teenagers or early twenties in the basements
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  Speaker 2: of you know, playing video games, are engaged in.
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  Speaker 1: Most of them grow out of it, but not all
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  Speaker 1: of them. Not all of them. Some of them.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously commit really horrific acts of violence on the way,
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  Speaker 2: maybe before they have an opportunity to grow out of it.
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  Speaker 1: So and I think that's the case we have here,
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  Speaker 1: so really horrible.
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  Speaker 2: We will see, we will learn, I think more from
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson as the investigation continues. In the meantime, as
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  Speaker 2: I told you last time last week, there are many
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  Speaker 2: many people online who are celebrating Charlie Cooks motor which
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  Speaker 2: is just horrific, but again not surprising, not surprising at
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  Speaker 2: all if you believe that speech is violence. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this is the as I said last week, this is
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  Speaker 2: the issue. The issue is the issue of free speech.
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  Speaker 2: The issue is what is speech, the nature of speech,
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  Speaker 2: and the fact that violence cannot should not be allowed
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  Speaker 2: to be used against a speaker, and that we need
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  Speaker 2: to teach people that some speech is horrible, some speech
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  Speaker 2: is disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: Some speeches emmodel.
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  Speaker 2: Some speech is despicable, and the correct response to that
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  Speaker 2: is to walk away.
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  Speaker 1: You know, some speech is not even worth debating. Just
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  Speaker 1: turn you back and for a legit organization, don't give
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  Speaker 1: them a stage.
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  Speaker 2: But if they have a stage, somebody else gave them
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  Speaker 2: a speeche And even if you think that what they're
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  Speaker 2: saying is horrific, disgusting, awful, you have no right to
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  Speaker 2: use force against them. You have no right to use
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  Speaker 2: force against them. And that is that is the fundamental here,
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  Speaker 2: That is the key issue.
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  Speaker 1: That's the lesson learned. That's what we should be fighting for.
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  Speaker 2: We should be fighting for the idea that speech never
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  Speaker 2: should lead to a violent response.
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  Speaker 1: Again, unless it's an incitement or direct threat. Right, But
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  Speaker 1: that's not.
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  Speaker 2: Clear that that speech, that speech is is counted with
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  Speaker 2: speech or counted with silence. Somebody who wrote I asked
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  Speaker 2: someone who is fine with Charlie Cook's assassination how they
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  Speaker 2: would feel if I was murdered for my beliefs, and
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  Speaker 2: they said, well, that would be different. You don't talk
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  Speaker 2: about them. So it's the speaking that makes you makes
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  Speaker 2: it okay to kill you. It's the speaking, not the
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  Speaker 2: holding ideas, the speaking ideas that turns those ideas into
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  Speaker 2: violence in terms of the ideas that according to these
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  Speaker 2: people warren't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, while going after them. So this is the
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  Speaker 1: far left, This is the Free Palestine movement. This is
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  Speaker 1: the merger of the Islamists with the far leftists. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is the This is the real.
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  Speaker 2: Horror today of a far left that is that dominates,
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  Speaker 2: or it doesn't dominate in terms of numbers, but dominate
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  Speaker 2: in terms of noise our universities.
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  Speaker 1: It suddenly is true that.
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  Speaker 2: There is this significant number are professors who are part
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  Speaker 2: of this, who teach it, who encourage it, who participate
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  Speaker 2: in it. And whether whether they're justification at this point
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  Speaker 2: is free Palestine or what they call trans writes or
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  Speaker 2: whatever the issue happens to be systemic racism at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Uh. They it's not limited to just fighting for they
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  Speaker 1: think injustice.
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  Speaker 2: Is it includes this idea of speeches violence, and therefore.
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  Speaker 1: These are bad, bad ideas.
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  Speaker 2: They need to be rooted out, rooted out from our culture,
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  Speaker 2: from our universities, from uh, you know, from from everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I found this. There was a post I found.
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  Speaker 2: Of this young guy sitting in the forest and he's saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: you know this is horrid. War's happened, you know that.
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  Speaker 2: But but you have to understand there's a plan here.
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  Speaker 2: There are forces in the world that are you know,
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  Speaker 2: moving to uh. This, by the way, had one point
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  Speaker 2: five million views. Forces in the world, uh moving us
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  Speaker 2: to make this cultural war a civil war. They want
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  Speaker 2: us to fight, They want us to bleed, they want
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  Speaker 2: us to kill each other. They want the left and
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  Speaker 2: the right to go after the other. And who are
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  Speaker 2: these forces? Of course, who do you think the forces are?
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  Speaker 2: Who do you think the forces are? It's old rich
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  Speaker 2: man in control. It's black Rock, It's corporations, it's bankers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who profits when you have riots? Who profits
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  Speaker 1: when you burn stores down? Who profits when you turn
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  Speaker 1: backs on each other? Turn our backs on each other?
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  Speaker 2: Corporation profit, private equity profits, blackrock profits. I mean, these
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  Speaker 2: are the people who maybe not a cheering until the
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  Speaker 2: Cook's death, but cheered when the CEO.
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  Speaker 1: Of United Healthcare was killed. These are the people that.
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  Speaker 2: Cheered when that guy, when I think he was targeting
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  Speaker 2: the NFL, wanted to kill some people in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: but landed up killing some people at Backwrock.
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  Speaker 1: They cheered. They thought it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what is interesting about the landscape of young
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  Speaker 2: people right now is it's nunny. It's absolutely nunty. So uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's it is a h it is an interesting time.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, it's hard for me to get a sense.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe some of you who are part of gen Z
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  Speaker 2: have a sense of the numbers here. But but there's
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  Speaker 2: a big chunk of the youth today that is pro socialism.
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  Speaker 2: I assume a portion of that chunk of youth that
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  Speaker 2: are post socialism. Uh, you know, free Palestine, a portion
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  Speaker 2: of them, you know, I just anti corporation.
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  Speaker 1: Kill that, you know, kill the CEO, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's a portion of gene Z's that are
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  Speaker 2: Groper's far right nihilists of various types, all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: far right weird. And and then there's another portion that
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  Speaker 2: are not nihilists, maybe explicitly, but I'm all Christian conservatives
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  Speaker 2: like fans of of g event who today did Charlie
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  Speaker 2: Cooks radio show Jade Evans did it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I just wonder how many saying.
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  Speaker 2: Gen zs they are politically from political perspective, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm curious it does seem super scary and and
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  Speaker 2: and and in a weird place to be. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: maybe some of you gen zs can educate me about
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  Speaker 2: what's going on in the world. Of course, the Trumpet administration,
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  Speaker 2: people in the Trumpet administration are gonna take full advantage
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  Speaker 2: of this. There is there is no passion among certain
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  Speaker 2: people on the right two do what they call dismantle
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  Speaker 2: the left, dismantle its institutions. I wouldn't be surprised, for example,
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  Speaker 2: if university's next got a list from the government on
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  Speaker 2: which professors to fire because they belonged to the far left.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see what the government does to
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anybody who gets money from George Soros,
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  Speaker 2: any nonprofits who are associated with the far left, you know,
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  Speaker 2: any political parties or political organizations that might be deemed
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  Speaker 2: far left how they're perceived.
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  Speaker 1: But there is really a energy and excitement.
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  Speaker 2: Almost a don't let what was it that Romie Manuel said,
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  Speaker 2: don't let a good crisis go to waste?
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  Speaker 1: Right, don't let a crisis go to waste?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it seems like that people within the Trumpet administration
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  Speaker 2: who are like, yeah, let's not let Charlie Cook's assassination,
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  Speaker 2: go to waste. Let's use this to accumulate more power
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  Speaker 2: and to get rid of our enemies. Stephen Millan, Fox
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  Speaker 2: News Today. The last message is Charlie Cook gave me
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  Speaker 2: before he join his creator in habit was he said
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  Speaker 2: that we have to dismantle and take on in the
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  Speaker 2: radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence.
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  Speaker 2: That was the last messure that he sent me. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to do that. Now what he considers fomenting violence
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  Speaker 2: is not clear, right, the whole left wing agenda is
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  Speaker 2: fomenting violence. Was celebrating the killing of Charlie Cooke fomenting violence?
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  Speaker 2: It should be protected on free speech, But is it
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  Speaker 2: fomenting violence? And what is this dismantling these organizations look like?
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  Speaker 2: And what are the grounds? And yeah, how does this
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  Speaker 2: fit into the rule of law? And on and on
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  Speaker 2: and on you can go. So it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: really really interesting. Is it true, for example, that MSNBC
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  Speaker 2: is a radical left organization formenting violence?
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  Speaker 1: Could it perceive be perceived that way? Are they gonna
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  Speaker 1: go after it? So?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's going to be it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be interesting to see, you know, how the Trump administration
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  Speaker 2: respond to this. Of course, part of that will depend
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  Speaker 2: on what kind of surfaces that is, to what extent
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  Speaker 2: uh were other organizations or organizations, any kind of organizations
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  Speaker 2: involved in uh in what uh in what Tyler Robinson,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in the killing in the murder of of.
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  Speaker 1: With Charlie Cook. So we're gonna see how all this
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  Speaker 1: plays out. It's going to be really interesting. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Colt Save says, as a as a gen Z, as
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  Speaker 1: a gen Z person, I can tell you my generation
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  Speaker 1: is wicked. Almost none of them.
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  Speaker 2: Are saying envy is an article of faith. I'm exceedingly pessimistic.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's horrible to hear. Uh really is.
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  Speaker 1: It? Really is horrible to hear, But it's and I
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  Speaker 1: wonder whether that is? Is it? How prevalent is it?
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  Speaker 1: That is? How big is it? How how are you
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  Speaker 1: and there are you hanging out in the wrong circles?
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Is it everywhere? Is it dominant? Here's Matt who's also
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  Speaker 2: also a gen Z. Nothing gets me more hate from
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  Speaker 2: my peers than advocating for objective as principles. It's sad,
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  Speaker 2: so many unable to think only feel. But I think
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that was true with every generation. I mean, nobody liked
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: objectivism right. Whenever we advocate for objectivism among our peers,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: people hate it on us. I mean the ridiculed that
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: US came after US. So I wonder if that is
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: unique to Generation Z or if it's worse under Generation Z.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm wondering aloud.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if anybody has any real perspective and
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: data on this.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It would be interesting. But it does look bad. It
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: looks really bad. I mean, both left and right.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: The a nihilism, the growth annihilism on both sides, And
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of this is enabled, not cause,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: but enabled by the Internet and their ability to communicate
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the film groups to radicalize each other, and to do
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: it from the safety of anonymity.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Uh, you know.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: The fact that the web can be completely anonymous, which
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: it should be. I'm not against an enemity on the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: web makes it possible for people to say things that
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: they would never say in person, to do things they
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: would never you know, to to facilitate things they would
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: never facilitate in person.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: To just generally.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Engage in in language and organization and advocacy that I
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: don't think they would in person, because they'd be they'd
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: be ashamed, and they'd be afraid, and they'd be afraid
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: finding out, and they'd be worrying about the counter arguments.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: A nice thing about hiding on some online chat is
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: nobody's gonna contradict you.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna contradict you.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Remember these also kids who grew up during COVID in isolation.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: All they had was the basements and their and their
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: chat groups.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That was it. That was the entire social contact.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So all right, I will keep you updated as the
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: news comes in about.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: This horrific murder and about the motivation of the killer,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: to the extent that we learn new things. I think
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: we'll learn more tomorrow when he's arraigned, and supposedly the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: government will lay out more of its case, or at
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: least what they know to date. But yes, we'll know
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: more tomorrow. So tomorrow show, we'll talk about this, simo.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: On the front of Yeah, I know many of you
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: are worried about the fate of TikTok. TikTok, the short
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: video format platform that is hugely popular in the United States.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Enormously popular, although it's popular has declined over the last
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: year there's another Chinese I guess similar company that is
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: that is actually taking market share away from TikTok. Anyway,
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: uh TikTok is owned by a bit bit Dance, a
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Chinese company uh and which has supposedly a stake in
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: it by the Chinese government. And therefore there was real
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: concern that the data from TikTok was basically being handed
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: over to the Chinese government and used to spy on
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: all of us, those of you at least who use TikTok,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: and and and people are people are really were really
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: really upset about this, and as a consequence, Congress passed
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the law, passed the law that that TikTok had to
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: be either sole or shut down in the United States,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: and Bezen Biden signed the law and it was a
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: done deal.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: And then Trump came in and he basically said no, no,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I want to negotiate, and he basically ignored the law.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: There was nothing in the law that allowed the president
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to indefinitely extend the time TikTok could still be around.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: But Trump, for a variety of reasons, decided to keep
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: it on, keep it going, and negotiate and whenever it
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: was clear what he wants exactly.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: At some point he suggested maybe the.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: US government would take it over, or maybe a US company,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and then the US government would take a stake. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: then I'm thinking, God, all we need is a US
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: government owned social media platform talk about moving slowly towards athiritarianism.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: That would accelerate the place. So instead of actually.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Following the law, Donald Trump basically ignored the law. Ignowed
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the law by the way that the whole case went
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court and so we got ruled absolutely
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: TikTok the law stands. There's nothing They claimed the law
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: was unconstitutional. Again, I think they're wrong. Claimed the law
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: was unconstitutional and therefore.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: It should be So clearly Trump just ignored the law
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and nobody's doing anything about it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: He just nobody can do anything about it. I guess
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: he's just saying, I don't care. I'm gonna get open.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not enforcing that law, which is in and of
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: itself stunning and should be a scandal.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, like you should be impeached just for that.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I then it's on that TikTok was part of the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: negotiations between China and the United States over tariffs, an
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: no offense and all and of a TikTok and of
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a wherewth minerals and of a I guess Michael Processors.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: China, for example, just last week ruled that Nvidia was
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: was a monopoly and was going to penalize them in
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a variety of ways in China as a consequence of
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: violating Chinese anti trust laws. So, anyway, there be negotiations
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: going on between the United States and China about all
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: these definitionues, and it turns out that they have come
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: to an agreement around TikTok. Nobody is saying what that
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: agreement is, but supposedly China somehow these negotiations probably are
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: going on in Madrid. Somehow these negotiations are going to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: lead or this deal is going to lead to a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: deal by which the Chinese owner bit Dance is going
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: to divest TikTok and the US, a US company or
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: US entity or the US government is going to buy it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Supposely the agreement is between two private companies and it's
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: going to shift the social app into US controlled ownership.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Now the I think one room has the US company
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that's involved his article article in the past was involved
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: with a deal with TikTok to secure their service in
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the United States. So the idea is that Article might
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: take over TikTok. I think Microsoft is also try to
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: take over TikTok. I have a feeling, though, and I
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: don't know that it's I have a feeling that the
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: US government's going to have a stake in this. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: have a feeling that Trump is going to want some
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: stock in TikTok, which should be illegal. Like if we
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: could rewrite the Constitution, I would definitely have a provision
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: that says the government cannot own cannot own.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: A private company. I mean Biden did did it not? Biden?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Obama did it after financial crisis with the auto industry,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: uh and uh and and Trump has not done it
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: on several occasions and needs, I think about to do
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: it again. I think this is a horrific move to
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: have government involved in private business.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: This is uh, you know, basically going to lead to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: such market distortions and and much more corruption than we've
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: ever had in this country. I am hoping that whatever
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: deal they have is truly between private companies and the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: US government is going to stay out of it. But
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I suspect I suspect that the government is going to
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: own own a piece here.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I mentioned that Donald Trump's already a a an owner
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: of a of a social media network, his own social
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: media workbook, that he never divested, that he's never actually
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: put his stock and his financial interest in the trust.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: He's never put them aside.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: He's the only person, I think eva who has basically
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: maintained all his economic interests while he runs the government
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and runs the economy and does all these things. No
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: conflict of interest at all, not at all, particularly as
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: his businesses are accumulating things like crypto and going into
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: all kinds of technologies that the government is very.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Involved in approving or not approving. There's no problem of
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: cronyism at all all, Right, says talk about China.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: It is going to be interesting to see what the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: negotiations come out with out of Madrid are going to
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: actually beyond TikTok, which is a minor issue, what they're
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: actually going to resolve. But China, you have to realize China,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: and I've said this over and over again in the
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: last few years, and it's getting worse. China is not
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: in a good place economically. China is struggling. China's economy
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: is slumped again. In August, it is not close to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: achieving its targets for the year. Factory output and retail
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: sales had their weakest growth since last year in August.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: And you know this is after again, the central government
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: has been pushing all kinds of economic policies to increase growth.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with tariffs.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: They basically managed to everything they were selling to the US,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: they managed to sell elsewhere. It has everything to do
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: with phenomena that I've been describing to you that I've
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: been describing to you for years now that's.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Happening in China.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: It has everything to do with the fact that China
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: has centralized its control over the economy, the fact that
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: China is much more engaged in managing the economy, the
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: fact that the real estate, the real estate market in
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: China's collapsed completely before Trump even got into office.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Uh. Their real estate companies file for bankruptcy. Uh.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean they are in trouble. They're in trouble.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And there again, they're in trouble because the government is
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: fueling whatever growth there exists in industry, and and they're
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: they're making the kind of mistakes that central planners always
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: make They're heavily subsidizing industries that don't need the subsidization,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: causing prices to come down, causing companies to over you
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: know sense overproduction, produce too much drive for US is
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: down start losing money.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: There is their real challenges. Unemployment among young people in
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: China has been well into the double digits, actually over
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: twenty percent for years now. This is not Trump, has
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: not to do with Trump.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Everything to do with the fact that China is mismanaging
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: its economy because it's trying to manage it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Any management of the economy is a mismanagement.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: So we have a China that is struggling, and it's
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: going to continue to struggles. I'm still curious to see
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: whether she can hang on to.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: His political power.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: October will be the month in which we will discover
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: the fate of Xi, given that, I think to everybody
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: in China, it is obvious that China is economically really,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: really struggling, and has since really since COVID, since you
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: know the certainly the dramatic lacks in China, but I
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: would say even before COVID, since really the disappearance of
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Jack Ma in probably twenty nineteen since the real clamping
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: down attack, the clamping down and the increased involvement of
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: government in the economy. So it's going to be interesting
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to see how she deals with it and whether he
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: can survive.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Also in China, and related to this, is we've talked
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: a lot about BID and China's dominance of electric Cause,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and China indeed dominates electric Cause. BYD is the most
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: successful company, and it's done very well exporting its CAUSE
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and also building facilities in other countries and selling about
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: a million Cause outside of China, a million electric cars
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: outside of China. Anyway, BYD stock is been crushed over
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: the last few weeks, and it's been crushed because it's
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: facing this, it's facing these competitors who are producing better
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: CAUSE than they are, and they're producing them in the
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: domestic pocket. Of course, China is a massive market, right
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: and it b b ideas seeing forty five billion dollar
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: stock sell off, that forty five billion dollars have been
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: wiped off of its value. They profits have come down dramatically,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: and they've come down dramatically because of the price wars
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: that they're engaging. They sell domestically, they're selling Cause.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, because it's the
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: only way they can compete with the competitors.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: And that the reason for that is that they have
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: so many competitors, and for the reason for that is
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: central planning from Beijing, which dictated electric cause is one
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: of the industries they want to dominate, and they'refore poured money,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: poured money into their elect your club business, all right,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: just a quick check with you guys.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Video okay, everything okay, audio video okay. So buy D
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: is plunging.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: You know, there are other companies that you you know,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: most of us have never heard of. Uh Geelee g
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: e E l Y Automotive, Automobile Holding, zenjiong Leap Motor
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Technology significantly gaining ground. I mean, uh, the dominance of
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Chinese Auto company in the electric car is.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: That dominant. It's just not just by D.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: It's a bunch of different companies and the competition within
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: China is brutal, and that competition is going to be
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: a drag on Bui D. And that competition again lowest profits, uh,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: laws investment, The investment has to come for the government.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: If the government invests, it's not going to invest wisely,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: this is the kind of stuff that.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Is killing the Chinese economy.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: All right, finally from China, this is a fascinating story.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Fascinating story. So over the I guess. On September eleventh,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: there was a massive leak online a five hundred gigabytes
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: of internal documents from China's Great War Company. This is
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: the company, I guess, state owned company that manages China's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Internet surveillance, Internet restrictions, Internet controls. The leak is exposed
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: tens of thousands of pages of documents, along with source
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: code and worklogs from the censorship system's core developers. So
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: China sell sensors the Web, It sensors its own people,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: It sensors the access its own people have outside. It
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: even tries it even has a mechanism to detect and
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: block VPNs.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: So you know, supposedly this is this basically exposes all
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the stuff that they do, how they do it, the
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: algorithms to detect and block VPNs, the algorithms that kind
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: of determine how they monitor Internet traffic inside inside China.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: It also turns out.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: That this technology has been exported to a number of countries,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: including Burma, Pakistan, Ethiopia, Kazakhstan and.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Other countries that are part of the China Belted Road initiative.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Right, so they have a ready to use system that
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: you can buy to basically impost censushuphone on people. This
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: is the largest leak in Great Firewalls history and it
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: potentially exposes vulnerability and surveillist systems.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Used by the.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Chinese and of course these other regimes. So this is huge,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: This is good, and yeah, it's it's it's going to
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see what the fallout from this is.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: So there is a document online where you can find
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: all the technical information and that that has a lot
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: of a lot of technical information. You can contact the
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: people who have the source code and are trying to
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: analyze it and and working with it.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: So you can find it in gfw dot report. Look
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: for gfw dot Report, slash blog.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Slash, gig g E E d g E underscore and
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: underscore MESA Underscore leak.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: You can find the information there if you're interested. Oh,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I said, I do a bit of a dive on
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Nepal before I got back to you on that.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: So let me let me update you on Nepal in
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: terms of what is going on there and what the
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: context for what is going on there is. So at
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Nepal up until two thousand and eight was basically ruled
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: by a monarchy, a real monarchy, not just a constitutional monarchy,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: not a symbolic monarchy, but a real monarchy. Studying in
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: the mid nineteen nineties, the Communist Party of Nepal, it
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: was a Maoist organization, waged an insurgency, destabilizing the country,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: and ultimately that plus demonstrations by non Marxist elements, eventually
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: led the monarchy. The monarchy's a polishment and the declaration
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: of a republic. In two thousand and six, there was
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: a big people's movement, mass protests and ultimately pressured the
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: king to see absolute rule and establish a parliament and
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: again this republican system. Now after two thousand and eight,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: they've had a number of elections, but the reality is
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: that the system has been characterized by political instability, shifting coalitions, fragmentation, protests,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: student protest, political parties protests, labor union protests, teaches, populist movements.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know this, but there's ethnic strife in Nepal.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: They're different ethnicities that are fighting each other. So this
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: has been happening for a long time, and so Nepolo
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: has been rife with strife for a long time. The
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: current the current demonstrations, the counter protests basically came about
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: when and they title the gen Z protests. They came
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: about they started on after September fourth, when the Nepali
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: government suspended access to twenty six social media platforms that
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: included Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, read It, Snapchat and many others.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: And they claimed that the reason was that these platforms
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: did not.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Comply with new digital regulations.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: But the reality is and the way it was intimidated
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: by the public that this was basically a way to
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: silence dissent, that the government was trying to silence its critics.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: It was a way to can tell free speech. And
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: in particular, you know, in the months leading up to this,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: there'd been a lot of chatter online on what are
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: called Nepo babies. Nepo babies these are the children of
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: the family members of the Nepalese political elites and who
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: supposedly had enjoyed privilege and epotism and unfa economic advantages
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and all of that. And there was a huge campaign
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: online to.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: You know, show this and the government basically shut down
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: the online world in order to protect their own children,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: the children of the elites of the establishment, and as
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: a consequence, using discord and Instagram and other platforms, young
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: people started organizing demonstrations, organizing tactics, where to demonstrate, how
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: to demonstrate, when to demonstrate.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: The demonstrations were.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Particularly Kutmandeu, which is the capital and particularly near the
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Federal Parliament, but they spread to other cities and while
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: the initial gatherings were fairly peaceful, it escalated pretty quickly.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: So demonstrated to try to breach to approach government buildings.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Security forces responded with tear gas, water cannons, rubber bullets,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and indians.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Some cases, real bullets. The protests became increasingly violent.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: On September eighth, classes erupted and then and by then
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: at least nineteen people had died. Protests set fire to
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: multiple key government buildings, including the Federal Parliament, the residents
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: of political figures, and party headquarters.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: The confrontation culminated in the storming of then police Parliament
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: building on the ninth of September. In response, the government
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: lifted the social media ban, They folded and the Prime
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: minister resigned, an interim government has been formed. Then interim
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: government is being led by a former Chief Justice, Justice
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Sushila Karaki, a woman. She'll be the first net Police
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: female prime minister. And what's interesting about her is she
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: was one of the people nominated by the young people,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the leaders of the youth movement.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: She has vowed I don't think I got it anyway.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: She has vowed that was a mosquito. She had vowed
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: to not stay in the job for more than six
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: months and basically manage the government until there were elections
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: and there was a new government put in place. And
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: there's a lot now of rethinking about kind of Nepalese government,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: corruption and everything else. So you know, keep an eye
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: on it. It's interesting. I mean, a pile is an
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: interesting country. It's like in the middle of Norway, right,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: It's on the top of the in the Himalayas. But
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: it's got a massive population thirty million people. It's a
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: small country relatively speaking. It's a small country the size
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: of Illinois or Arkansas, but thirty million people. Fairly you know,
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: it's a fairly young population, but aging fast. Vast majority
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: of the people in the country are between the ages
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: of fifteen to sixty four. But there are a lot
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: of zero to twenty twenty eight percent, but thirty million people,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: so it's not an insignificant country. It's in again like
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: right up there in the Humalayas. We will see what
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: actually happens. But this is I think in embolden other
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: groups of young people around the world to demand political change.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: They were successful. The gen Zias were successful in this case.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: Let's hope.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: You know Zias in other countries, as I don't get
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: the sense that these gen zas a crazy far leftists
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: or far rightists. Let's hope that that is the case
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: for Nepal's sake. All right, what do we have. Let's
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: see two final things and then I'll go to your questions.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: And as I said, today's show will end at five
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: point thirty.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I've got a meeting at five thirty and if I
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: don't answer your question, I will answer it tomorrow. So
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: please don't worry. The question will be answered. Over the weekend,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: the British right, the anti immigration right, held a massive
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: demonstration in London.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: People on the right claimed that there were three million
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: people in the streets of London. Now that is an
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: exaggerated claim. I don't think that's true. But there are
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of people. The police say one hundred ten thousand,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: which is more than anybody expected. I think, you know,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: they're probably underestimating, you know, looking at the pictures. I
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: don't know, it's really impossible to say. I mean, it's
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: not impossible to say. You could actually figure it out.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say between you know, one hundred and
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: fifty to three hundred thousand is very reasonable, maybe as
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: many as half a million people. It was a big rally,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: it was a big demonstration, It was a big show
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: of force. This was Brits fed up with the coddling
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: of you know, Islamic migrants, of you know, no rule
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: of law, the law treating white defendants different than treating
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Muslim defendants or color defendants. You know, the frustration at
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: the fact that there is this asylum system that just
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: lets these people in, whether they can work or not,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: whether they have jobs or not, and the States feeds
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: them and houses them in hotels in small towns all
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: over the UK. This is a reflection of the fact
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: that I think England generally, or Britain really graeping is
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: dramatically moved to the right, is fed up with this government,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: is fed up with really the Islamic you know, the
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: grooming gangs, the violence that comes from the Islamic section.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: But they're also fed up with, you know, the Free
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Palestine demonstrations in London.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: They're fed up with.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: You know, Islamists coming out regularly and stating that they
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: want to bring Sharia law to the UK, that they
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: don't care about the UK's law, that they want Islamic
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: law in the UK, and they're fed up with that
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: and they should be. Indeed, polls in the UK show
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: that the far right block.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: That is the.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Oh god, the name of the political party just slipped
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: my mind, is a thirty four percent thirty four percent.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Labor would probably be at nineteen percent and the Tories
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: the Conservatives at fifteen percent.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: So we're looking at a complete destruction of the Conservative Party.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: If you put the toy, if you put the Conservatives
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: plus the.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: What is the name of the party?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Got somebody in the chat bail me out here, anyway,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: they would have fifty percent of the vote.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: And if there was an election, given the way kind
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: of the system, the electoral system in the UK reformed,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: thank you, Jennifer. The Reform Party would win.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: A overwhelming victory in any election that we held, and
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: with the Conservative would dominate parliaments and could pass whatever
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: they want. I think this isn't the reaction of, in
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: a sense, the merger of Islamism with leftism, and more
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: than any other kind of issue, particularly in Europe, that
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: reflects that merger is the free Palestine banner, the Hamas banner,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: you know. The Islamism, which is a fundamentally internationalist movement. Leftism,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: which is fundamentally internationalist movement. Leftism, which views Islam as
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: a repressed religion, is the one, you know, claiming that
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Islam is the one that the being oppressed the West,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: or the oppressor Leftism that hates the West.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: More than anything else, that combination of.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Leftism and Islamism wrapped around a Palestinian flag, I think
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: is now provoking a massive rise, a massive rise of
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: interest in Christian nationalism in the UK and in the
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: United States. Now, this right wing wave started with Brexit,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: and indeed, if Brexit hadn't happened, there'd be a lot
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: less Muslims in the UK today. The reality is that
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: the immigrants who came into the UK to take the
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: jobs that the UK needs, for example in his healthcare system,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: while coming from Eastern Europe, coming from Poland and Ukraine
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: and places like that, Spain, Portugal, Italy, and what has
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: happened is because a Brexit, what you get now is
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: immigrants from British colonies who have the easiest time to
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: come in post Brexit, and that's Pakistan, Indian, Nigeria, many
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: of them being Muslims, particularly the Pakistanis and the Indians.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: But the right wave, so the right wave, the wave
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: of right wing activism that led to Brexit to large
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: centers motivated by anti immigration, and some of that anti
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: immigration was targeted at people at Poles and other Europeans.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I think now those same people miss the Poles, missed
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: the Europeans. What they didn't expect is to be replaced.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I think they replaced the polls with Muslims. But the
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: reality is that the UK economy needs immigrants, particularly a
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: healthcare system.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: The NHS does not run without huge numbers of immigrants.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting if they decide to deport
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: all these people, what happens to the NHS. So right
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: now we're seeing that right wing wave of Brexit much bigger,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: much more radical, and by the way, radical here is
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: all about culture. They're not pro capitalism. Reform is a
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: statist political party. It wants the state involved in economics.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: This uh, you know, this whole uh you know, uh
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: demonstrations and events and so on was put on by
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Tony Robinson, who's been at the full front of the
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: kind of the anti immigrant, particularly anti Muslim immigrant in
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: the UK for a long time. That is, I think,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: from his perspective, the only his only issue.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Uh. But these people are are committed to kind of
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: a Christian nationalism. It's growing in Germany, it's growing in
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: much of northern Europe, and it's growing in France.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: The Penz Party, I think, is going to expand. I
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: think if you had elections again in Spain you'd see
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: the far right party doing even better.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: In Spain. The far right Party did really well in Portugo.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: This is going this is the next wave. I don't
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: think the leftist can resist this.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I don't think the leftist have anyway to convince their people,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: to convince enough people to stop this. You know, the
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: ideas of capitalism, socialism, all this, that's not what interesting.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: They're all statists, and it's all about culture, all about culture.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: It's all they care about. And yeah, maybe they'll do
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: something about Islam. And then the question is what happens then?
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: What happens then?
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: What do they do after they solved If they solved
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: the problem of Muslims in Europe. I'm not sure they
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: have a solution, and I don't think they have a
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: program after that. But one thing is certain is that
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: they are statists and their success will only embolden.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Them to be even bigger statists.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: All Right, Finally, a quick story about my place I live,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: you know, my homeland these days, Puerto Rico, and that
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: is we've talked a little bit about this. The fact
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: that you know they put the trumpet do station's place
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: ten f thirty five's in Puerto Rico.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Well, they're doing a lot more than that.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Basically, the US Navy has basically reactivated its base in
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Puerto Rico.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: It used to be a very active based in Puerto Rico.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: Shut down.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: It's been reactivated. The old Navy base was shut down
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: in two thousand and four. It's coming back to life.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: This is good for the economy.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Of Puerto Rico.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: It used to be called Roosevelt Roads Naval Station and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: it's in full capacity again or the past week, hundreds
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: of U. S. Service members and military equipment have been
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: moving there.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Uh. You know, there's this part of the big military
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: build up in the Caribbean. No official explanation being given,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: but as as we talked about Haig Seth and the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: command in chief of the military, the UH which is anyway,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: the general was there in Puerto Rico.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Uh and and basically, yeah, they're all in. I should
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: maybe worry that Venezuela is gonna bomb Puerto Rico.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I I you know, who knows. Puerto Rico might be
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: at the heart of our new war to uh to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: secure Latin America for America. So it seems like you
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: were prepping for something. F thirty five's are there, uh
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Those can reach Venezuela very very quickly from Puerto Rico
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: and undetected. The Venezuela doesn't have detect to identify this,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: and they can wreck havoc over there. They've also been
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: deploying a Reaper, the Reaper drone to Puerto Rico again,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: the m Q nine reapers. Now these can be detected. Actually,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: the HUTI shot a bunch of them down in Yemen,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: and they have now been also detected there. And as
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: we said, it really looks like preparation for some kind
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: of military action in South America. Most likely place is Venezuela. Okay,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: let me throw quickly one more news story out there
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: before before we get to the questions of a lot
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: of them. Okay, we'll do this quickly. And as I said,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: we will be will be. I won't be able to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: answer all these questions in no way because I have
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: a hard stop at five point thirty.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: But I will take these questions and to them tomorrow.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I promise that.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I'll just mention that the Hyundai thing, you know, the
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: immigration rate on the Hyundai plan, is just an unmitigated
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: disaster for the Trump administration. It was unjustified. It was
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: a mistake. It was an error. Some junior official now
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: at the State Department has acknowledged that, although the Korean
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: foreign Minister is asking Trump to apologize for it and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: to acknowledge that it was a mistake. These were agents
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: that are trained for this kind of action. These are
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: agents that are primarily working on things like counter terrorism
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: and child trafficking cases, and now being pulled to go
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: arrest illegal immigrants that are working for a living. The
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Koreans that were here had visas to work temporarily in
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: the United States to install equipment to build a factory
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: in which Americans will be employed.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: It's just a fiasco, which is Trump.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think we'll ever acknowledge this is an ally.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: This these are companies based in Korea that are investing
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: in the United States, just like Trump claims he wants to.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: And they were harassed and humiliated. Uh they were. They
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: were placed in detention for three days. They were treated
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: badly in detention. By all accounts. This is exactly what
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: you'd expect from an amateurist, amateurist status uncaring rights violating
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: UH administration like the Trump administration, just a just a
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: disaster on off fronts with no upside, no benefit.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Nothing good will come of this, not of bad all right. Uh.
• 1:03:52
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• 1:03:54
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• 1:03:57
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• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:09
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• 1:04:11
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• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: But I will I'm gonna jump in with the super chets.
• 1:04:15
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• 1:04:17
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  Speaker 2: questions done. Hoppa Campbell, fifty dollars, Thank you, thank you,
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  Speaker 2: thank you? Does objectives community lack charisma? We don't have
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: enough strong personalities. What my Ironran's success was intense aura
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: and commanding disposition. I'm not feeling that energy from the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: next wave of objectives intellectuals.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't agree with you. I think
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: what made iron Rand.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Successful was the fact that you wrote the found Head,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and that was shrugged. What made us successful is she
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: was a best selling author of books that almost everybody read,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: including many leftists, including any people within the intelligentsia who
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: opposed them intellectually read them, and there as a consequence,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: who considered important books, and she, as a consequence, was considered.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: An important intellectual and important contributor to the debate. They
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: disagreed vehemently, and of course, because the books were written,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: millions of people who read them, there was there was
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: a real impact on the culture.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: The books are what made the impact. Now, you know,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: she did interviews and she made speeches, but none of it,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: none of it would happen, none of it would make
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: any difference without the two novels. So I think that's
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: what made I rand Iran. And then the second thing
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: is is I don't think it's her you know, energy
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: or anything like that.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I think what it was was she was a genius.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Everybody knew she was a genius. She wasn't a particular
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: good speaker, she wasn't a charismatic speaker. She was a
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: charismatic answer of questions because of her genius, because she
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: did narrow in and exactly what the question was asking
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: and give us succinct, unequivocal answer. So I don't think
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean it would be great if
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: you had more charism and the objectives community, But I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: don't think our intellectuals lack charism. If I look at
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: you know, Charlie Cooked, did Charlie Cook had more charisma
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: than many of all intellectuals, I don't think.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: So he had more ability to schmooze more ability to organize.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, he had something that suddenly, you know, objectivism
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: lacks the organizational ability and the.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Ability to schmooze with people to make connections.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: But part of that is just the fact that he
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: was not advocating with something that was outside of the mainstream,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: completely outside of the main sort. Our intellectuals, you know,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: more less charismatic than intellectuals that are active today. I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: mean less than Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris for a
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: variety of reasons. But no, I don't see that. I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: think it's the content. I think it's the ideas, our ideas.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Their time is not come yet, It just hasn't.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: Right now, the world is going through a period of
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: dealing with.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: Superficial, emotionalistic, status strong man ideas of left and right.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Those are the ideas that attract people right now. And
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: it's not because of a lack.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Of charisma, because people are still reading on that. They're
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: just not responding to her. Instead, they're responding to Nick Foantis,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: not because of his charisma, but because this is what
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: they want.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: They want outrage, they want.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: They want mindlessness, they want conspiracy theories, and they're responding
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: to others who confirm the kind of educational the beliefs
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: that they accumulated during the during their.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Educational lives. Right, So.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't think got problems like charisma. A
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: problem is the world is not ready for these ideas
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: and not enough of us, not enough intellectuals. We're trying
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: to remedy that. But you need a lot of intellectuals
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: of all kinds to change the world.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Adam, the right response doesn't seem good. But at what
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: point is the far left rhetoric of woods being violence
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: actually partially responsible for an individual violence and just the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: fireball to be counted versus chalking it up to crazy individuals.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you need to counter it, but the only legitimate
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: way to counter it is through speech. Now, universities who
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: are responsible and trustees the universities and donus to universities
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: should insist on firing the professors who teach this crap.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: But that was true, That's always been true. But the
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: point is this, the government has no business here. The
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: government has no business here unless somebody is specifically calling
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: for violence, Unless somebody is specifically inciting violence, everything else
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: needs to be to help dealt with by intellectuals. No,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: they're mistaken free speech is not of speech is not violence.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Here's why, here's why it's a cornerstone of our civilization.
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  Speaker 2: Here's why we depended it for survival. Here's why this
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: is really really important. And all universities, you're not gonna
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: get my money unless you start firing the professors who
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: teach this crap.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: That's what needs to be done. I agreed. We shouldn't
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: just chalk it up to crazy individuals. We need to
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: fight the left's idea that speech is violence. Now, by
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: the way, i'd feel a lot better if I thought
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: they're right, believed in free speech. They don't. I would
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: feel a lot better if I didn't think that if
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: they kicked out, you know, if they could, they would
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: want to silence people as well.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: But having the government going to dismantle the institutions of
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: the left cannot.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Be the right answer.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: Cannot be the government. It has to be an intellectual battle.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: The people who are assisting or inciting violence need to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: be arrested.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: But the government cannot start saying.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: These professors are okay, these professors are no good. And
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: if the problem is that they're funding these universities, they're okay,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: len let them stop funding the universities. But I'd rather
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: they stop funding the universities all at once and create
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: real havoc. Then start dictating to universities which professors are
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: good and which are not. That will end really, really,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: really badly for this country. That's the government getting involved
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: in speech and what's being taught. And yeah, that's a
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: violation of free speech. That's a violation of exactly what
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: we're trying to fix. But I agree that the.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: People teaching this, advocating for this, are partially responsible, not
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: responsible in a legal sense, but absolutely responsible in a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: moral sense. People advocating for this are evil. They're morally evil,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: You know, you should do to them what you do
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: with morally evil people who are not legally culpable. You
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: should isolate them, you should fight against them. You should
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: kick them out of, you know, places where they have influence.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: When I say you, private citizens should, private enterprise should
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: not the government. For example, a lot of companies to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: five people for celebrating Charlie Cook's death, that's good. I'm
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: all for that, that kind of canceling, which is voluntary private.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: I'm absolutely one hundred percent full, all right, Michael, People
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: are surprised the kids father.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: The kid's father turned him.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: I think turning him in is basically an act to
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: reduce your own pain, because you will know you did justice.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: What hurts is to realize you devoted significant time of
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: your life to creating a monster.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: I agree with him completely. I don't find it surprising
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: enough the father turned him in.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: I think this is what most fathers would do, particularly
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: given how clearly the father opposed the action, opposed what
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: he did.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: The father also.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Knew he was he was legally liable, right, he was
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: legally complicit uh and could be could be arrested for
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: harboring a criminal. But most importantly, I think you're right.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: I think what he did was an act of justice.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: I think he knew that. I think that it makes it.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: I think the the real pain he's going to go
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: through is exactly what you're saying, is the fact that
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: he has devoted so much time, energy, love to creating
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: such a horrible human being. That's the pain that he's
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: gonna feel, not about turning him in. I don't think
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: he'll I don't think he'll ever regret that. All right,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: let's see thank you, hop up, Adam and Michael for
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: the fifty dollars questions. Those are great and they help
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: guests get us to our goal really really quickly. Mike says,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: our government can't stop giving away money. Now it's one
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars to each baby born in the US. Yeah,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: I know, it's ridiculous, sympathetic. This is Trump's thing about
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: setting up saving acounts for every baby born in the
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: US and give them a thousand dollars.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: We have so much money in this country. We don't
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: have to borrow at all, you know, we just.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: We just create the money and the money grows on
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: trees in the United States. So why not hand each
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: baby one thousand dollars? I can't think of my any
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: reason not, you know. And let's remember that's a redistribution
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: of wealth, the massive redistribution of wealth from you to
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: the babies, whether you want it or not, from your
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: children to the babies, from your babies to their babies.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it comes right out of your tax money.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: And if it doesn't come up of your tax money,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: then it will come out of your text money in
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: the future.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: And in the meantime.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: It'll be inflated away by you paying higher prices.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Another tax. Inflation is a tax as well, not you
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: have a jogorithm. As flat as the Enlightenment is, intellectuals
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: haven't had the ability to suppress it for long periods
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: of time.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: We had two World Wars, depression, but there's always been
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: a bounce back towards prosperity that lasts longer yep I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: mean has.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: But there's no guarantee that it can continue.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: As we get further and further away from the Enlightenment,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: those ideas have a lighter and lighter hold on the world,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: and the more and the more they're attacked. And they
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: used to be attacked almost exclusively from the far left,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: from the Marxist and from the postmodern left.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: And to some extent by the far right, but it
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: was very small.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: Now Enlightenment ideas are attacked by thoroughly by the dominant right,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: not the fall right.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: The dominant right.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: The national Conservatives, the Christian Conservatives, the MAGA, the Republican.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Party, and by the left, the far left.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: So there's a sliver of people right of center, left
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: of center who still believe in the Enlightenment. And it's
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: not clear whether the Enlightenment ideas can survive this and
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: in what form and in how James, a realistic expert,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: was explaining what happened with Charlie's bulletproof vests because it
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: was steel and not one of the newer vests.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: The crumple, when impacted the.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Steel plate recocheted the rounds into his neck.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Wow, that is that is brutal.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Where's the part two of your question? And James says
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: super chat won't let me post my part two for
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: some reason, said that, so it's in the chat.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: But I got let's see if I can find it.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I'll see if I can find it. James M.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't get to it right now. Can you
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: send me an email with it now? Answer tomorrow? But
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: I mean that's pretty horrific that that is the case.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the chat here, it's James. Yeah, I
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: don't see any question from you in the chat. Uh,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: maybe you could type it again. Maybe you could type
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: it again right now? All right, thanks James? And uh, yeah,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: I'll make sure if I buy a Boo vest by
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: the type of compost because yeah, I mean my guess
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: is that the target was the chest, that's where you
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: would shoot. Andrew, can you explain secular mysticism in terms
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: of its cause and effects, Well, secular mysticism is just
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: the secular, any secular ideas that basically rely on some
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: form of revelation, some form of non rational means of knowledge.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Ultimately, almost all secular philosophy becomes that.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Right, So how does how does a Marxist know what
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: the politarian need, want, desire?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: It has to come from something and and you could
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: go on and onun sense.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: You know, environmentalism, the elevation and worship of nature above
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: man without what is rat what does nature want? How
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: does how does nature communicate with you?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Non rational? Completely non rational?
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: So it's and it has all the trappings of a religion, uh,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: the guilt, the penance, the you.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: Know, original sin. Uh.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: You see that with intersectionality as well. And I did
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: a whole show on how intersectionality was was was was
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: inspired by religion?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: You get that in in in the whole far left
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: the right, of course is just straight mysticism, but you
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: get that in in in communism as well, where the
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: same thing, I mean, the cap is infusing with guilt
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: and the proletarian has original sin in even being born proletarian.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: So it works by basically taking by basically assuming that
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: knowledge is gained through some kind of non rational means,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: and that and it embodies certain behaviors and rituals that
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: are associated with mysticism.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: We can get into it more in depth another time. Right.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Richard has a fifty dollars question, what is the most
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: pro Us Western Islami country Egypt, Jordan, Morocco? Where the
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: Jordan in Egypt have the large Palestinian populations. But I'm
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: curious about the government people who are most promising in
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: the region. Oh In then at least oh I don't know.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's Egypt. I don't think it's Jordan.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: Both those countries have very high concentrations of Muslim Brotherhood,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: which are very anti West.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Morocco, maybe Morocco, maybe maybe even Dubai or United amb Memirates.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: They're small enough that you could have a high concentration in.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Terms of Muslim country.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: More broadly, you would then have to consider Malaysia Indonesia
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: as potentials as well. But I think in the Middle
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: East it's difficult because the Muslim brotherhood is very prevalent
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: in Egypt, very prevalent in Jordan, even though they have
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: a peace relations with Israel.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: It's very fragile.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: The Egyptian Cisi, the president of Egypt today, called Israel
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: the enemy.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: So I don't think. I don't think any of those places. Sadly,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: maybe Morocco, but it's hard to tell.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Morocco too has quite any Slamist presence, you know, And
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there were free elections in Morocco,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: who would win and whether they was the Brotherhood would win.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: In Egypt, they did win when they were free elections,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: and they probably would win if there were free elections today.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Liam The reason Trump is attractive is because he has
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: that up yours attitude, the giant middle finger attitude towards
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: political correctness. That's more attractive than the typical nothing, middle
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: of the road Republican. Yes, I mean there's a sense
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: in which that's true. But he also has a middle
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: finger to everything that is America. He has a middle
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: finger to capitalism. He has a middle finger to CEOs
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: of American companies. He has a middle finger to free speech.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: He has a middle finger to the idea of you know,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: the freedom, for example, to burn the flag. He has
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: a middle finger to the Constitution and to the rule
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: of law.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: So yes, he stands.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Up to the left, and that's what people that's what
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: people like him. But he has no respect for what
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: made this country America. He has no respect for America
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: properly understood. And that's but I guess neither the people
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: need of his voters, most of his voters anyway, Leam.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: The victims represent what the perpetrator cannot attain. They represent
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: a reality that the trator cannot accept. The perpetrator do
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: not want to exist where the values that they're victims
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: represent can be achieved. You're talking about like the story
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: with Charlie Cooke. The guy shot in because he does
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: not want to live in.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: A world where Charlie Cook can be successful. I think
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: that's right. But the question is why and what are
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: the values that are driving him to that conclusion. But
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: I think that's right. Richard, Thank you fifty dollars Again.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: How much stock should we put in surveys coming out
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: of Iran which show over eighty percent of Iranians in
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Iran strongly disapprove Islamic Republic and favor of regime change.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: If this is true, how can the regime stay in power?
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: I think you can put quite a bit of stock.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know if eighty percent is the right number,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: but it's it's a majority.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I think you saw that with the demonstrations. You saw
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: that elsewhere.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: The problem is that none of those people sit in
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: positions of power or with leverage, the leverage the guns,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: in other words, all reside with the republican, the revolutionary god,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: and the Slamka revolutionary God, and the military.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: And unless you get a.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Defection from the military, unless you get the defections from
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: somebody like that, or the people have the guts the
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: courage to actually go into the street and tolerate being
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: shot at, tolerate the murder of hundreds, maybe even thousands
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: of people in the streets.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Unless Iran is willing to do that. Unless they have
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: the courage to do that, nothing is gonna change. So
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: what's gonna have to change is the willingness of Iranians
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: to go out into the street in mass by the millions,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: like they did in the seventy nine revolution, but this
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: time against a brutal enemy that is likely to be
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: willing to shoot them. And I don't know, I don't know.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not in touch enough with what's going on inside Iran.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: All right, final question for today. Many people from Andrew,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: many people who take life seriously. I'm aligned as humorless.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: It's fun It's funny that some who knew in Man
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: claim she lacked humor, which is not true. Yet others
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: claim she laughed easily. The truth is that she knew
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: when to be serious and when to be funny.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, and taking life seriously means also no when to
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: have fun and also know when to take it appropriately
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: when to laugh. That means a holistic view of life.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: It isn't seriously. Oh, I can never smile, I can
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: never laugh, I can never have fun.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: I have to be serious.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Taking life seriously means embracing all aspects of life and
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: applying your reason, applying your judgment to every one of
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: those aspects, and living up to them, being the best
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: that you can be with them.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: All right, Tomorrow tomorrow will have the show. I mean,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: if nothing crazy happens, tomorrow will have the show at
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: three pm East Coast time, and I will it will
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: be a long show.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: Expect a long show tomorrow because I will have to
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: cover all the questions you asked today which I haven't answered,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: and there will quite a few of them plus all
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: the questions you asked tomorrow, and I expect it to
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: be quite a few tomorrows.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: So I apologize that I have to run today and
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: it kind of squeezed it in.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: But yes, tomorrow the show will be at maybe even
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: at two. There's a chance I'll do the show at
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: two pm East Coast time, so earlier, and we'll go late.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: So start early up and we'll go late and we'll
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: cover all your questions. Be ready with new questions so tomorrow,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: because we'll do a three hour show tomorrow and we'll
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: talk about everything you guys want to talk about. So
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: I have to run. I will see you all tomorrow.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: Have a great rest of your week. Bye, everybody.