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Pastor, Patrick, how are you? Yeah, very good Jason.
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Thank you. Listen.
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I've done. I've seen there's a lot of
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things happening which I thought was a relevance in Israel as far
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as Israel is concerned. I just wanted to get your
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thoughts on that in what you how you thought or any news stories
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that you thought were probably a Biblical or Bible prophecy
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importance and how you thought things are.
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You just discuss Israel in general and and anything else,
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it's that's happening with Christian friends of Israel and
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things like that. Yeah, it looks good.
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I think the main thing at the moment is the threat from Iran,
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there's a lot of talk in Israel at the moment because it seems
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like Iran is trying to create a ring, a ring of fire as it were
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around Israel. Yep.
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They're using their proxies, for example, in Lebanon, Lebanon is
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basically run by Hezbollah, which is a proxy or an army
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supply. In finance from Iran.
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And so that's in the North of Israel.
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Hezbollah. And they've got over a hundred
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and fifty thousand Rockets ready to fire into Israel.
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These aren't little backyard Rockets.
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These are rockets that can reach any part of Israel.
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So you've got that threatened the North, and then in the
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South, you've got in the Gaza Strip.
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You got Hamas, which is also a proxy over Iran and they're
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being harmed by Iran. And as you've seen recently
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there's been Been a bit of Rocket fire going on there.
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And Israel has been taking out their rocket science.
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Yeah, so in the South that got people there, and then you've
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got to run itself proper, you've got Syria, Israel.
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Continued is to bomb sites in Syria, trying to take out
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uranium supplied weapons. So it's like Iran is trying to
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build a circle around Israel and they're getting ready.
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Israel beliefs to attack Israel, on multiple fronts from the
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north, from the south, from the East.
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All at once because you know, that will overwhelm air defense
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systems because those binder and Rockets are very good, but they
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can only last so long. And so, it's believe that Iran
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is trying to overwhelm Israel and getting ready to attack on
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multiple fronts. That's big news at the moment,
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it Israel, Iran. And and that's why Israel is
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being preempted now and would have heard of a bombing in Yemen
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recently. Yep.
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Are believed to be Be from Israel.
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Now, that's pretty significant. Because Yemen is so far away
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from Israel. And yet as Shiite militia
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Training Site run by Iran training, its Fighters was
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actually bombed by Israel in Yemen, which meant that, the
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Israeli Air Force had to fly to Yemen more than likely over
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Saudi Arabia which is keeping very, very quiet refuel over
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Saudi Arabia, either in the air or on the ground.
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And then fly back to Israel. That's how far it is away.
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So there's a lot of things happening that we're not sure of
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but Iran is front and center and it looks like they're preparing
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to attack Israel, through their proxies.
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They won't attack themselves but they'll use their proxies.
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Yeah Hezbollah in the north Hamas in the South and in Syria,
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their fighters in Syria as well. Yeah that's that's the big news
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and prophetically that That that's significant.
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Because Iran is part of the Gog and Magog War, really join
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Russia. Arming coming to attack Israel.
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So this is, if you like a shadow of what is the karma,
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pre-emptive of what is to come. And it's all pointing towards
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that battle. And of course, Russia and Israel
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and not returns at the moment because Israel seems to be back
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in Ukraine in the war. Yep.
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And so Russia's stopping the Alia from Russia, stopping Jews
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returning back to his. Brown ale.
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Yep. In Russia shutting down the
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Jewish agency, that accommodates, all the Jews
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returning so it means they had stopping the juice from coming
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home now. So there's a lot of tensions
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happening and all the nations that are in tension, those
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Nations involved in that Gog and Magog War.
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Yep. Iran and turkey will be involved
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in that as well. I've had a few Christians
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suggest to me, that, that Russia is looks like it's being almost
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held back or almost kind of an inverting that they're being
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defeated in Ukraine and then of gotten into discussions about
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well Russia in the long run. As you said, you know, that
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they're involved in this war. How do you see things?
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You know, to Warrick sweater thing but biblically, how do
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things really have to, you know, go for Russia in the low end?
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I mean, can they, can they be defeated in Ukraine?
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Tool the other things play out, or do you think be able to leave
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with? Would it make more sense that
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they would have the long-term Victory or something?
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Yeah, we'll look, I'm like everyone else.
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I can only speculate. Yeah, I wish I had the answer
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but according to scripture from what we understand Russia is
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involved in this last gold and may God War.
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Yep. And the Bible actually says that
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God's going to put books in their doors and pull them down.
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Yeah. So whether or not they're in a
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position at the moment or even the desire to attack, Israel.
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Yeah they're going to be drawn into it.
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I think you're going to be drawn into it simply because they're
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going to partner Iran. Yep.
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And they're partnering turkey and they're part of that
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Coalition as well. So it may not be just Russia on
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its own saying, well it's attack, but they're going to be
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drawn into it. Yep.
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Because they've got interest in Syria, Russian bases in Syria,
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which is right next door to Israel.
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Yep, making alliances. Now with Iran.
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They're actually buying drones coffee run.
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Yeah, you run is our major Producer of drones now in the
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world and Russia is buying drones from Iran.
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Yep. And so the you can see their
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connection with Iran and Syria and turkey may be the Catalyst
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that draws them into a walrus. If Iran goes to war against
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Israel and Russia for the joint. And that could be that hook that
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God says he'll metaphorical. He'll pull them and draw them
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down. This Trail.
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Yeah, I was an alliance. And do you think I've heard
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other people speculate also about the the amount of oil that
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Israel has found right on in their border oil and there's
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that big gas deposit and and also and also talk of gold being
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found which seems strange considering such a small
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country. But yeah.
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Does it. So does that also all play into
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this this war in Ezekiel 38. Do you think as well?
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Yeah, well Well, apparently has enough guests to supply Europe
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for the salmon, amazing amount of fine.
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Now, traditionally Russia's being the big supplier of gas to
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Europe. Hmm, now if Israel was able to
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build a pipeline into Europe, they could Supply technically
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Supply, Europe and cap Russia right out of it.
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So but the thing is, I haven't built the pipeline and it's
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going to cost a lot of money. Yeah, that's where turkey comes
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in. You'll because they're saying
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Israel. Now it just made a renewed peace
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effort with Israel. The saying look, why don't you
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build a pipeline to us in Turkey?
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Because we're connected to the European lines and everything.
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Yeah. And we'll send it through via US
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to Europe. So that's the cheaper option.
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The other options, billions and billions, and billions of
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undersea, you know, pipelines or liquefy, it and send it down to
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Egypt and as liquefied gas and then send it off.
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They're exploring all these options.
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Look, technically, they could cut Russia right out of the
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market, okay? And countries like Germany and
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Italy and places like that, and making deals with Israel, now to
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get their gas supplies by passing Russia.
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So that could play into it. Yeah.
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She could say, hang on, we've lost all our money now because
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Israel taken the gasps, let's go and take the gas, you know?
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Or yeah. It's attacked the country.
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It's only a small country in. Yeah.
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And here I might say, well, we'll join you in Turkey table
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will When you yes long as we get a slice of the pie.
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Yeah. So there's all these scenarios
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and I think everyone that sort of commentating on this Earth,
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trying to put things together, but we just don't know.
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But we can see a lot of scenarios.
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Yeah. Okay.
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The other thing I noticed and if you, if you tell me, if you
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agree, or don't agree, but it seems like Israel's kind of
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being isolated in other ways. So, I've noticed, That with
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these other attacks and things happening in Gaza, the media and
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other countries. I mean, you know, the United
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Nations always seem to be against Israel anyway but now
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it's like the media, just the constantly attacking and Israel
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seem to be more and more isolated, you know.
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And and America does no longer seems to stand with it,
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especially after the loss of trump and all that.
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Is that something that has to continue this?
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Isolation. Is it happening?
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Yeah, yeah, of course, of that Israel has always been isolated.
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Yep, United Nations passes, resolution after resolution
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against Israel, for every little thing.
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And yet it ignores human rights. Abuses in Korea, North Korea,
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and, and Saudi Arabia knowledge. But Israel, seems to be attacked
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on every front, me, go and do some research with the United
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Nations. You find that nine out of ten
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resolutions against the countries of the world,
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condemning the countries of the world.
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It's Israel. Yeah.
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Can I have a 10 and yet? Other countries seem to escape
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it. Now with the US with Biden, he's
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basically going to do a deal now with Iran and Israel said listen
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you do a deal with Iran. This nuclear deal that they're
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contemplating re-signing. Yes they said it's going to be
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10 times worse than it was previous.
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In other words America's just going to let her run have their
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way. Yeah so Israel has lost an
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Allied air when they lost Trump they've lost a real Ally.
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Yeah. United States.
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I'm so this has got to continue because Israel's got to become
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isolated and you'll understand it through scripture when this
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battle of Gog and Magog does happen.
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No Nations come to rescue Israel.
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It's God himself. Yeah, that actually destroys dog
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and his armies on the mountains of Israel.
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So there's no other Nation standing with Israel.
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Yeah. To defend him.
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It's got to be God defending them.
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So this isolation. Yes, it's got to continue.
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Got to continue. Can get worse.
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Get worse? Yeah.
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Okay. That's why the church that's why
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we as the church we should be the best support us.
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Yeah, you know, the government's are not going to support Israel.
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Even our Australian government. Now, the Labour party.
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They're pushing for a two-state solution.
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They want the Palestinians have their own State.
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I noticed that. Yeah, yeah, which is really a
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curse on us. If we follow through with it,
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because God says, he will judge those who divide his Nation.
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Joel chapter three from read that.
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So, Yeah, all the nations of the world repeating themselves
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against Israel and the church, we should be the ones that stand
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up and say, no biblically, Israel's not perfect.
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But hey, David, they're the Covenant people have gone and
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God's got plans and purposes. We need to stand with them and
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show support. Okay?
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So, talk to speaking of the church, what we should be doing
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because I noticed last time and I've had it before to whenever
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talking about Israel and last time I spoke to you immediately
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The ahead covid come up. I think he's on YouTube
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something about Israel. Modern-day Israel, not being the
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same as biblical Israel. Can you correct that or take it
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apart? Or, you know, why are people
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saying like that? And what is it actually?
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Well, if modern Israel isn't the Israel of old war, what is, who
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is when Jesus comes back, he's coming back to a literal
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physical Jerusalem that involves modern Well, now, the modern
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Jewish person today, they're blind spiritually, they're very,
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very blind, they're very secular.
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But even the Bible prophesied, that when God, brought the
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people of Israel back from the nations in said, he would bring
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them back in blindness. They weren't coming back because
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they were saved or they believed in Jesus.
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They were coming back as atheists, non-believers pagans,
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but God says, he's going to recall the room building.
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So, what you see. Tonight, modern Israel is the
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Israel because it's the promise of God had promised to bring
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them home. So yeah, they're not the
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biblical Israel but nothing is because that was 2,000 years ago
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but they are the Israel of God because God said one day you'll
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bring him home. Yeah.
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When you bring them home in unbelief, yep, it's only when
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they're in the land and they go through the persecutions,
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they've got to go through the future that Remnant a.
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Remnant of the will be saved. So yes, you can't say that this.
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Not be as relevant today, because if it's not what, where
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are the promises of God, who were they made to not made to
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the church? The church is not, he's wrong.
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Yeah. Yes.
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They are pagan. Yes, they are unbelievers.
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Yes, they are secular. But God says, you bring them
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home in the last days. And that's where he's going to
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refine them in the land in the last day.
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Yeah, and there's that. That's why the church should be
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supporting it because because the other argument, I've also
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heard is people say like the church is the Day Jerusalem or
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modern day Israel, this kind of spiritual Israel is that so
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that's false that's that's, that's, that's a that's called
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replacement Theology. And that is that that's actually
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a blasphemy because God didn't make the promises for the
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church. Israel, existed 1,500 years
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before the church was born. So how can the church be Israel?
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Israel, or existed 1500 years? All the covenants and all the
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promises were made to Israel if we've been grafted-in to the
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provinces. Yep.
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But we're not the tree. The tree is Israel.
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Yeah, we've been grafted-in. Branches were broken off a week
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so we receive all those promises and blessings of God but we're
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not Israel, okay? And in the future promises to
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Israel and not to the church, that's why we we understand the
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church will be raptured out of here before God finally finishes
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his plan with Israel. Yeah.
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So you can't say the church is is real.
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We're not Israel physically or Israel is Israel, the church is
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church, there's two separate identities.
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God has got a plan for both and the age of the church is coming
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to an end very soon. When God's going to take the
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church out of the way through the Rapture.
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And then he's going to finish his plan that he started with
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Israel because he made promises to David that he has descended
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on that Throne forever and that descendants going to be Jesus
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when he comes back. Yep, to rule and Reign on that.
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Train to a literal physical Jerusalem.
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Okay. To be Jerusalem.
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Okay, that's why Jerusalem's under attack.
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That's why the world wants to divide it.
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You know it's a spiritual problem on back of what's
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Happening. Yeah.
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Yeah. Thanks for clearing that up but
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clarify because you are you always is always so many
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comments and I just, yeah, it's frustrating.
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It's I get back to the word of God.
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We've got a really get the word and let the word, be our
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foundation. Let the words speak.
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Yeah. Um, do you mind discussing some
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other things that I've noticed lately?
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So, I wanted to get your thoughts on, and if you watch
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the Commonwealth Games, the opening ceremony, and they had
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this weird ceremony, I did, I did do an episode on it.
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My thoughts were that this, this bull ceremony, it was, it was a
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like, a fake. It was almost a year, like a
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fake Pagan. Yeah, a pagan worshiping.
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And I think in the Bible, you know talks about that God Baal
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Baal, have you pronounce it and it's a bull or a calf and it
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seemed like what they were doing in.
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The ceremony was was almost pretending to have this Pagan
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Worship in my off, ball in my life.
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You know, what were yours now? You see, they've got to ask the
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question, why? Yeah.
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Now, this is a bit of context to that, you know, the Commonwealth
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Games was held in the English city of Birmingham.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now Birmingham has a an
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association with the ball dating back.
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Hundreds of years. Centuries?
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Yeah. Back in about Hundred.
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They used to have a used to be an area.
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They called this the floor area, where Bulls would be baited, and
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then slaughtered there. So, that city of Birmingham has
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a history with the bull dating back centuries.
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So on that level, the reason they have the ball was too
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because it's so closely associated with Birmingham, its
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mascot if you like yeah, on that sense.
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But on the other hand, you think, why would they get a
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ball? All, why would they worship it?
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Why would they seem to be praying to it and, and praying
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for it. And why is a woman sitting on
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the ball which is reminiscent of Revelation?
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Chapter 17 where the woman rides the Beast?
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Yeah. Okay well though, the beast in
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Revelation 17, had seven heads, and ten horns.
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This was this was just a bull. Yeah, going back to borrow.
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Yes, well worship is the worship of bull.
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So the Israelites, when they came out of Egypt, Yeah. - they
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made a car to in the form of a bull.
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Yeah, I wish. So I have to ask the question,
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why I can understand the association of Birmingham with
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the bull. The Bulls name is Perry By the
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way, anything, but his name's Perry, but I can understand that
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Association because they've had hundreds of years, being a bull
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area, a slaughterhouse. But the other side it seems like
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a spiritual. Pagan Festival to me where this
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and they were, they were literally praying to it.
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They were raising your arms to it.
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They were saying convocations and prayers to it.
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And I'm thinking, where does that fit in it?
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What how is that relevant? Yeah, it is paganism.
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Right there I had a thought because in correct me if I'm
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wrong but in Revelation, it talks about like a false prophet
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and it seems to me that it's Describing a false religion that
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he brings in. And always wondering, was
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whether this kind of thing because it seems so much more
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prevalent than it used to be. This, just in your face, seeing
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people kind of do these religious rituals Pagan rituals
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and I was wondering whether this is just getting people used to
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that idea of this kind of weird false worship because in the
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end, the last, Stays in the tribulation period.
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Whether you know, that's this is the kind of thing, you know.
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I think it talks about, worshiping the it doesn't the
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Antichrist, but worshiping the Beast worshipping that who is
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the Antichrist. You know, is that, is that what
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the world is tries? That the spiritual aspect was
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trying to get people used to that mindset of worshipping
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false worship? Well, I would agree.
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A hundred percent. Yeah there's definitely a push
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to get people away from the traditional Christian.
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And this seems to be part of the trend of just a pagan,
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everything goes sort of religion.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Like I said, yeah, that's the question.
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Why what's the purpose behind it?
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And it's just part of the spirit of the age.
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You watch everything today. Christianity doesn't have a
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voice anymore. It's trying to be pushed to the
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side and it's almost like there's, it's Universal, just do
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what you feel is, right? Do what you think is good?
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Everything is inclusive and I think you're saying I agree it.
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It's a conditioning of the mind. Yeah.
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And people accept it. People wouldn't have looked at
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that and accept if you're Christian going, oh, that's
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Pagan. They do.
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That's yeah, yeah. Give it a second thought.
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So, yes, there's a conditioning going on.
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Yeah. And it's called the spirit of
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lawlessness, which the Bible says, is already in the world.
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Yeah, it's going to point to the Lawless one.
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Now, this false prophet that supposed to write, he's going to
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be the head of a religion, and it's not going to be a Godly
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religion, it's going to be something that the world
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accepts. And he's going to hit this up
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and he's going to point people to the Beast, the Antichrist,
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it's not the Antichrist Who falls people who take the Mark,
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it's this false prophet who tells everyone.
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They've got to take the mark to identify with the, with the
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Beast, which is the Antichrist. Yeah.
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So you read that inscription, Revelation 13.
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He the false prophet causes them all, to have a mark, the mark of
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the beast. So, and another thing he won't
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be able to clarify. There's also this I think it's
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called the abrahamic center that's being built is the
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mixture of the three religions, Judaism Christianity.
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What was once a Christianity? I think it's actually Roman
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Catholicism at the Catholicism and and Islam.
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Yeah, and I was wondering, you know, is this is this the false?
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Legion. Or it seems weird that I've
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built this massive, because I think the first ones gone up in,
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in in Berlin, and then they've got others in nam in somewhere
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in the an Arab Nation somewhere. You can't remember now, but, you
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know, and this is big push for this joint.
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Three religion. Kind of thing is that the kind
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of thing that this false religion had any.
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You see this, that kind of thing, flying it.
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It's all got to come together somehow, doesn't it because
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yeah. Under this one, going unifying
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thing will be this Mark and that's why I say that you know,
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the things we've been through in the last couple of years.
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A simple signs to say to everybody in every nation,
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you've got to conform, you've got to have this Mark, you've
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got to have this. This jab to be included and the
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all did. That's it.
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That's it. That's a test run.
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If you like the next time, it'll be under the guise of our.
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We need World. Unity And so, you've got to
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identify with us through this Mark, this world unity.
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And this is again, a shadow of what is to come the unifying of
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religions. Yeah.
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And you're glad, I'm glad you pointed out rightly that the
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Christianity part of, it's not true Christianity.
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It's got nothing to do with true.
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Christianity know, Christianity is a broad umbrella.
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Unfortunately, that includes everyone and everything being an
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ex-catholic myself. You know, I know that you can
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accept anything as a Catholic and still be called a Catholic.
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So yeah, that's this acceptance. This broad acceptance of of
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unity through belief in. You can believe in what you
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want, but we can still be unified.
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Everything's the same. It's all under one.
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Yeah. Just a simple shadow of what is
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to come. Yeah.
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I like you. I want you an LG of the the
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foreshadowing, because I think when I talk to other Christians
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about things are actually done log using the phrase,
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Christianity Christians. Because like you said, Anyone
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calls themselves a Christian I think Beyonce refers to herself
24:44
as kind of being a Christian and she's yeah there's 80 krishna's
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you can get but but everyone thinks they're a Christian and
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then they'll go ahead and do whatever they want.
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So the Bible believing yeah fallible following people.
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Yeah positively and this yeah a lot of them don't blow the ones.
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I've spoken to don't really see the whole ain't I think they
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just yeah which a bit of a shame.
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Now I think if you view what's happening in the world, through
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the lens of what's happening is that for shadow of what is to
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happen. It's like I said, it's
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conditioning people their minds to think a certain way, there's
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a narrative. Now, government's spread The
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Narrative of what they want, how they want it.
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And so everything is being pushed towards this narrative
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and these are test runs show. His trials to condition people
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to move in that direction, keep pushing the Sheep as it were
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towards the pain, until you can get them in the pan and that's
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it. Yeah.
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Okay. If we can move to Australia if
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you have wind and I obviously had sent you a message about
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what I want to talk about. And look, I have I've avoided
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these talking about these two people especially the subject
26:07
because I didn't want to didn't want to overstep.
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Just at the boundaries marks and that but I have spoken about and
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I want to talk touch a bit on its como mi Scott Morrison.
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Former prime minister, you know, and what he's done lately and I
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do voicing concern quite a while back because in my mind he was,
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you know, he did some of the things he'd done during the pin
26:31
pandemic because, you know, he's A Christian.
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I'm saying that he's born again Christian but then at times and
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I understand politics is hard and you know, trying to balance
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everything but it seemed like he omitted the truth that different
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times and I was always like saying the people want to know
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he's and they all this other things come out about which you
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know there's nothing illegal about it they're saying but it's
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just seems like really weird Behavior.
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How have you had any discussions about any thoughts about it?
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How is it Christian? Because our in my mind I think
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we'll, it doesn't, it's not a great witness, it's just weird.
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What would ya any thoughts on that?
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You were when you put the name of the Lord to your life and
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your actions? Mmm then, of course it's going
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to come under scrutiny. Yeah.
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I like you. I don't like to talk too much
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about politics because as far as I'm concerned, you can't trust
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any government. Yeah.
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Doesn't matter who they call themselves.
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Yeah, our eyes should be on the Lord and And on the word of the
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Lord and and living to declare the, you know, the salvation of
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Christ. That's where our focus is.
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But you can't avoid politics. Especially when prime minister
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comes out and says yeah I'm a Christian and now I know the
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church he goes to in Sutherland and Sydney, I know the past know
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of him. I know a bit of what he's
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taught. I know, in a different country,
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I was a speaker and he was a speaker.
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And I saw some of the things which I was Quite simply
28:06
disgusted with from his pasta. So if that's the sort of
28:10
teaching is getting, I don't, I don't doubt some of the things
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he's done or a bit dodgy because I see that in his leadership but
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that's beside the point of property in Kabul for that.
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But anyhow, that's what I saw. But yeah, it look, you've got to
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talk the talk and walk the walk. Yeah, some of the things that's
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come I seem to have done is betrayed.
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His is Christianity. But, you know, I'm not going to
28:35
judge the guy. No, probably one of the hardest
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thankless job there is. Yeah, that's got to be careful
28:42
when you put the name of the Lord to things that you walk the
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walk and talk the talk and live the life.
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Yeah. And I think, you know, we've
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seen a few of these shortcomings.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And yeah. You're right.
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Yeah. I like I said, I have spoken a
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bit about him before and I know, you know, I love spoiling that
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politics. I just more disappointed, I
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think in and stuff. The other one in all want to
29:05
talk about this because there's been so much of an attack or our
29:08
season attack in the media towards Christianity, and
29:14
especially the Bible, the Bible is constantly attacked.
29:17
And then we see things like what's happened with Hillsong
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and Brian Houston and you know, I'll be straight up, I'll show
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you, I was put off Hillsong a long long time ago.
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I did go to conferences in the late 90s early, Thousands.
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But for whatever reason I just yeah I thought no I didn't think
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it was a fantastic thing but you have it.
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How does a Christian how do you reply or how do you discuss it?
29:48
But honestly, with like, what's happening with Brian Houston at
29:51
the moment, well, it is sad when I very prominent so-called
29:58
Christian leader is expose, like he was, you know, Suppose the
30:06
visit to the women's room and alcohol and things like that
30:10
looked like he was trying to feel so long ago because I
30:13
actually opposed one of their introductions and one of the
30:18
introductions that they introduced into the AG was was
30:22
allowing their ministers to drink, alcohol coming from a
30:27
public and background, my father was a public and I grew up in
30:30
hotels. I was totally opposed to that
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And I let the AG know that and they didn't like me for letting
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them know. Yeah, but it's come back to bite
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them. This policy.
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Now of allowing their ministers to drink and even the top guy
30:43
who was instrumental in introducing, this policy is
30:47
caught drunk. And you know, saying it will
30:50
leave that. But look, I think you've got to
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just say, look, yes, look at the Bible.
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Look at all the major players in the Bible.
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Bible shows their fault. Yeah, David was an adult.
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Yeah yep and God expose him. You know, we are human.
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We are frail and that's where the grace of God kicks in.
31:13
Now we can't play on that Grace but we're all frail, we're all
31:18
human. We all make mistakes.
31:20
But God is God. And the word is the word and
31:23
that should be our higher. Same and Brian Houston's only a
31:26
man like the rest of us under, a lot of pressure, obviously with
31:29
everything he's doing, he makes mistakes and he's going to be
31:32
scrutinized. It's even hotter because of
31:35
these prominence in society, and Society will go at any
31:40
opportunity. They can to destroy the church
31:44
that that's like, you plan strike, the shepherd, and Bob
31:48
says, and Scatter the Sheep. So he goes for these leaders
31:51
here. This this is this is funny what
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the Bible said would happen. Jesus said if they hate me, they
31:57
hate you. So we can't expect to be loved
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in the eyes of the world or and I'll look for every little
32:02
opportunity to pick in their attack and you're going to see
32:05
it. You're going to see it more and
32:06
more. How you seen it when somebody
32:08
stood up, like, Israel flower against, you know, the
32:11
homosexual thing, and he got sacked?
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And, you know, there's a lot of people that in the church that
32:16
didn't support him. Yeah.
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They supported the world, which is crazy.
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Yeah. So you're going to see that If
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you want to be a fairy believer in God's word and practice that
32:27
word, you're going to come up against opposition in every part
32:31
of your life. So expect it because Jesus said
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it's going to happen, okay? And this time we value at just
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under four minutes left. So I just wanted to see if you
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can just just wrap up with why what why it is important why you
32:49
should be a Christian? What's the point in between
32:52
believing in God if you can just you know in a in a couple of
32:55
minutes look you know the point is that you have a look around
33:01
you and people blind to the truth that God exists, I've had
33:04
to deal with some things in the last few days which are it's the
33:08
worst of me and kind just the heart of man is wicked hard.
33:11
Man is evil. There's no fear of God.
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There's no fear of life to come. There's no thought of life to
33:18
come. And so when God gives us that
33:21
opportunity, Always to the truth of who we are.
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We need to take it because it's the only way that he's going to
33:28
change our lives and change our heart.
33:30
And by doing any changes, our families, he changes our
33:33
circumstance. He changes those who come in
33:35
contact with, that's the salt. And that's the like, and there's
33:40
the Eternal Eternal aspect as well.
33:42
You know, without Christ, no one's going to live forever in
33:45
the presence of God. There's there is a help people
33:48
don't like talking about it, but there is a help Jesus, spoke
33:50
more about hell than he did about heaven.
33:53
And so being a Christian especially in this day and age,
33:56
you're going to be on your own talks about the Narrow Path.
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And there were a few that find it, but broad is the way that
34:03
leads to destruction, it's easy to be a sheep in the follow
34:06
everybody else, but it's so much harder to stay on that narrow
34:09
way. Yeah, that's the way that Jesus
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is chosen and he offers eternal life and not only after the holy
34:15
spirit to guide you and help you and strengthen you, and we're
34:19
going to need it in these days because they're getting dark and
34:21
Christians are going. The subject of attack.
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And so to be a Christian is to reflect the Life of Christ to
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enjoy life. You know you can enjoy life a
34:32
lot more if you know Christ because then your purpose in
34:35
life is revealed. Yeah.
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And there is a husband, there is a future and you can go through
34:40
these problems with a smile on your face.
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So yeah, we need for salvation, say of Salvation from what
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salvation from your sins. Okay, because we're all born
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Sinners, that's awesome. Awesome news.
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Thanks. Thanks for ending with that.
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And because, you know, we really want to explain to people why
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you know why we talked about God.
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And this isn't just empty promises, empty words and
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there's a future and a hope like you said in Christ and listen,
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thanks very much again for joining us, I'm going to have
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ministry and thanks again for joining me and thanks to see you
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again. God bless us everyone.
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Thanks you too. Thank you.