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Detroit Tigers Moving Parts · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger's Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, a Detroit Tiger's podcast. I'm Kieren
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  Speaker 1: Steckley with me as always as a man who always
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  Speaker 1: slides in the second. He is Cody David Eagen, How you.
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  Speaker 2: Doing doing good? You can't run past the bag anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Don't forget that rule. All right, So what's the news here?
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  Speaker 2: I think where we left off last last episode, there
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  Speaker 2: was a fear Carry Carpenter was headed to the injured list.
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  Speaker 2: Good news, Carry Carpenter not on the injured list. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: he is not one hundred percent, but he's healthy. He
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  Speaker 2: got the day off and then he was in the
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  Speaker 2: lineup Tuesday against the Padres. Aj Hm said they will
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  Speaker 2: sort of manage this day by day. Had me a
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  Speaker 2: little bit scared that it was gonna be like, all right,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna wait two days and the niece just gonna
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  Speaker 2: go to the aisle. Anyway, the fact he was in
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  Speaker 2: the lineup played the full game Tuesday seems reassuring, but
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  Speaker 2: still kind of in ad minutes that he's not one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent. Even Carry said he's gonna have to manage it.
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  Speaker 2: Do a little extra prehab type stuff. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: see how this evolves. But for now, you have avoided
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  Speaker 2: something pretty close to a worst case scenario. Uh, you've
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  Speaker 2: already got one game from the Padres, So I think
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  Speaker 2: I think you're feeling a little bit better than where
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  Speaker 2: we left off last time.
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  Speaker 1: I would almost go as far as to say that
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  Speaker 1: I was, you know, whatever, a tear blow shocked is
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  Speaker 1: that he didn't end up on the il like I.
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  Speaker 1: It just got like it just like a hamsterrings a hamstring.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen it a million times and you just kind
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  Speaker 1: of think, all right, we'll throw them on the ten
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  Speaker 1: and we'll just kind of we'll just kind of assess
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  Speaker 1: from there.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Conspiracy wise, I wonder if things were a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more assured outside of their outfielders and hitting options, I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if that might have been in a more digestible
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  Speaker 1: move to make. Just putting that out there, not saying
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  Speaker 1: I believe it, not saying I don't believe it. I
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  Speaker 1: just think that would be a part of the conversation
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  Speaker 1: and not to you know, belabor the point or anything.
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  Speaker 1: He was zero for for today. But he did look
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  Speaker 1: I would say he looked about the same I would say,
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. Yeah, I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't notice anything different. He was definitely aggressive at
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  Speaker 1: the plate today, so like it wasn't like that hamstring
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  Speaker 1: was like holding him back from being like his usual approach.
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  Speaker 1: So he'll take the good news there. Uh, it did
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  Speaker 1: produce and this is this is probably the thing that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be talking. We'll definitely talk about it as the
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  Speaker 1: week progresses and maybe longer until a couple of people
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  Speaker 1: come back from injury. But why now field alignment Cody
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  Speaker 1: that we had today on Tuesday? You know, Riley Grant
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  Speaker 1: left field, that's obviously normal, and then Javier Bias in
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  Speaker 1: the center, and it's like, all right, well we've been
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  Speaker 1: kind of like prepared for that, but I don't think
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  Speaker 1: the combination of Green, Javier and then Jay in right
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  Speaker 1: field was one that we thought that we get all
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  Speaker 1: that often probably would have said over under half like
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  Speaker 1: less take the under if this was in the February
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  Speaker 1: that the outfield alignment and to their credits, not like
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  Speaker 1: anything happened today that you know, made it worrisome that
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  Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to see that again or wherever
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  Speaker 1: j Hen look comfortable coming in on some fly balls. Hoavier,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about center field here more in a second, Hobvier,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, he looks like an instinctual ballplayer
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  Speaker 1: out in center field. Nothing like crazy, but nothing nothing
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  Speaker 1: to concern.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go ahead and say this here
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  Speaker 1: right now, Cody, I was tracking a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: with regards to this whole moving parts thing that the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers did, and that's Riley Green not playing center field.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, as a default right now with
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  Speaker 1: the way the team is going. But in two games,
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  Speaker 1: he's had two collisions with the wall extended collisions with
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  Speaker 1: the wall by the way, you know, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: arms extended. And then he had you know, another you know,
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  Speaker 1: a dive attempt today that he that he got. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Javier in center field has had no play that required
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  Speaker 1: anything more than regular outfield physical exertion. So, uh, two games,
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  Speaker 1: simple spies. Not saying that's everything, but just making the
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  Speaker 1: observations that if we're trying to say Riley Green's body,
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  Speaker 1: his body was physically exerted these past two days in
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  Speaker 1: left field as opposed to being so just saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick, Rightley's I mean his sprint speed is
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  Speaker 2: way down. He's just not looking good physically when he's running.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he you know, he thought he snapped
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  Speaker 2: out of the slum, but then that Sunday game was
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  Speaker 2: really rough for him. He's changed his walk up song,
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  Speaker 2: no more Morgan Wallin. So if you're trying to save
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  Speaker 2: country music like I am, I think that's a thing.
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  Speaker 2: He's now going with some Rihanna, which I can get
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  Speaker 2: on board with. But I think if if Riley Green
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  Speaker 2: were to get injured this season, and I obviously hope
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  Speaker 2: he does not, I'm not sure it's gonna matter. You know,
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  Speaker 2: what position he was playing. I think if he gets
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  Speaker 2: injured is just because he gets injured. You know, he's
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  Speaker 2: a player who is somewhat prone to injury. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of where I follow on it. It's a great,
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  Speaker 2: a great case in point, Like you said today, are
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  Speaker 2: you actually saving him by not playing him in center field? Now?
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  Speaker 2: He has talked about doing some things just to cut
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  Speaker 2: down on the physical exertion, like he's not really hopping
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  Speaker 2: pre pitch anymore. And he said, like you would like
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  Speaker 2: you would be amazed how much of a difference I
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  Speaker 2: can feel after the game just by having like a
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  Speaker 2: more quiet pre pitch movement. That's kind of interesting and
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  Speaker 2: that is obviously the same and left as it would
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  Speaker 2: be in center.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the old it's like the old Bill
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  Speaker 1: Simmons save your niece thing. He criticized NBA players for
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  Speaker 1: jumping up and blocking shots after whistles, saying, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, you know, you you might have three hundred
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  Speaker 1: less jumps in your career if you didn't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So maybe that's maybe that's Riley being a new
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  Speaker 1: age thinking there. Uh but there was. You know, we're
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some more like big picture stuff
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  Speaker 1: because again the Tigers made various moves and we saw
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  Speaker 1: some of today, which we'll get to, but the pitching
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  Speaker 1: really was the story today. That kind of happens when
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  Speaker 1: you only must are like, what four hits, three hits?
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me? Uh So we'll talk about that here in
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  Speaker 3: a second.
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  Speaker 1: Stream down, all right, coming back here, you know who
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to watch today.
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  Speaker 3: Cody was one Jack Flarity.
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  Speaker 1: Jack Flaherty gets the loss, and we know wins and
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  Speaker 1: losses are the most important pitcher stats, so he gets
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  Speaker 1: the loss today, but he did He did have six
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  Speaker 1: innings of work, five hits, gave up the two runs
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  Speaker 1: on the home run there in nine case ninek's tied
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  Speaker 1: his career high on whiffs on the curveball h There
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  Speaker 1: were times, Cody, and I can't remember if I've said this.
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  Speaker 1: I know I've said it to you, but I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember I've said it while we're recording. There are times
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  Speaker 1: this season, Cody, where I thought Flarity, like a different
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  Speaker 1: way of saying his like velocity was down was I
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  Speaker 1: just felt like none of his pitches that can't play
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  Speaker 1: up were playing up. Uh, And I want to point
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  Speaker 1: that out because no one else points it out. That
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  Speaker 1: always point out when pitches play up, not when they
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  Speaker 1: played down. So it looked like his pitches were playing
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  Speaker 1: down there for a couple of starts.
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  Speaker 3: That was the case. Today, Everything was up.
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  Speaker 1: Everything was playing up for Jack Flaherty, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: shame because he gives up the two run home run.
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  Speaker 1: Tough play to get the runner on base before that.
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  Speaker 1: And then also, I don't know, that's a pitch that
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  Speaker 1: you want it more down, But you can't say, like
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  Speaker 1: I regret what happened there. It just kind of got
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  Speaker 1: golfed into the left field stands. So I mean, as
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  Speaker 1: good I think as we've seen Jack Flairy this year
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  Speaker 1: all in all, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, hundred percent. I think it's really a reminder
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  Speaker 2: of how lethal the knuckle curve can be when that
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  Speaker 2: pitch is at its best. It's probably one of the
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  Speaker 2: better curveballs in all the baseball. Yeah, the fastball was
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  Speaker 2: both playing up and literally I think he was using
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  Speaker 2: it up in the zone more often. It had really
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  Speaker 2: good ride on it today, it felt like, so he
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  Speaker 2: was able to pair those two pitches really well. It's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit funny. Last year the Tigers were the
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  Speaker 2: pitching chaos team and now they are in old school,
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  Speaker 2: five really good starters. You know, we're coming at you.
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  Speaker 2: So it is a different methodology, but still really good
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  Speaker 2: pitching all the way around.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know, like a J.
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  Speaker 1: Hinch, I have to think that the you know, the schedule,
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  Speaker 1: which you know they're still in the middle of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: play played a part in this, but he decided to
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  Speaker 1: kind of go with two new arms today as well,
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  Speaker 1: and that was one Bailey Horn. The often discussed on
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  Speaker 1: the Transaction wire, Bailey Horn and and Chase Lee. They
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  Speaker 1: both obviously combined for no runs, had three k's between them.
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  Speaker 1: Bailey comes in, Uh, we talk about hitters and their
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  Speaker 1: averages like or you know whatever, not mattering in triple A.
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  Speaker 1: I think we've officially reached the point of e ras
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  Speaker 1: for pitchers in Toledo not mattering, because what does Bailey
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  Speaker 1: have like a six point five eight or whatever?
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  Speaker 3: And he came in and he he was dialed in.
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  Speaker 3: He was dialed in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he had a k he allowed to hit,
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  Speaker 1: or assuming he had two k's he allowed to hit,
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  Speaker 1: and the action on like his pitching action, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: and the ball action as well. But he's a very downhill,
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  Speaker 1: violent thrower from the left hand side, and AJ was
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  Speaker 1: not afraid. He definitely wasn't using him as a lefty specialist.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's this guy who doesn't have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of major league innings. But AJ kind of threw him
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  Speaker 1: out there, and I thought I was impressed with him.
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  Speaker 3: I was, I see why the.
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  Speaker 2: Tigers works some some witchcraft on these pictures, Like, what, like,
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  Speaker 2: Bailey Horn, really, I know the guys that Tiger's minor
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  Speaker 2: league reported been kind of talking them up, and those
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  Speaker 2: guys do great work. But I'm gonna be honest. I
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  Speaker 2: was kind of like it really okay, Sure, and then
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  Speaker 2: he gets out there and it's like, what who is what?
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  Speaker 2: I see not only why the Tigers like him, but
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  Speaker 2: have they already just completely optimized him. The strike zone
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  Speaker 2: is important for Horn. That was aj Hinch's big thing.
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  Speaker 2: The stuff is really good, but the walk rates and
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  Speaker 2: triple A were really high. Walker rates in triple A
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  Speaker 2: tend to be higher than they are in the majors.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that's consequence of the ABS. I don't know. We
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  Speaker 2: can talk about that next year when the ABS comes
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  Speaker 2: to the big leagues. I don't know. His command was
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  Speaker 2: pretty good for you. One plus inning there on Tuesday Night.
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  Speaker 2: The stuff was electric. So that was his Tiger's debut.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey has a little bit of prior experience with the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox. He was followed by the major league debut
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  Speaker 2: of one Chase Lee, kind of a favorite of mine
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  Speaker 2: just from a personal perspective, wrote about him in spring
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  Speaker 2: training his pretty incredible story from trying to walk onto
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  Speaker 2: the Alabama baseball team, not making it, teaching himself how
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  Speaker 2: to throw sidearm, playing on the club baseball team, going
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  Speaker 2: back to the walk on try out the next year,
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  Speaker 2: making it, then becoming like a power sec reliever. I'll
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  Speaker 2: be very curious to see if his stuff plays at
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  Speaker 2: the major league level going forward. His trip a track
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  Speaker 2: record is somewhat checkered, but it's a little bit deceptive. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the delivery is there. It was pretty cool, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to see how it played out. As he's facing Mandy Machado,
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  Speaker 2: his first major league hitter, Fernando Tatis Junior is on
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  Speaker 2: first and Machada lines one back at Lee. He catches
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  Speaker 2: it and doubles up Tatis at second. Got into a
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  Speaker 2: hairy situation later walk two guys hit a batter, escaped
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  Speaker 2: a bass loaded jam with a pretty nasty sweeper. Cool story.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: His family's there. He lives at the same camp site
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  Speaker 2: as Andrew chaffin between Toledo and Detroit. They had a
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  Speaker 2: little bonfire a few days ago. I kind of want
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  Speaker 2: to go down there and we'll see how long Chase
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  Speaker 2: Lee is here. We'll see how long takes before Brabia
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  Speaker 2: and Brisky get up. But you know, at the very
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  Speaker 2: least a fun story and rewarding Dave, certainly for Chase Lee.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, big brain baseball play there with
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  Speaker 1: the swinging bunt that he that he fielded, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: Bogarts is Boguard's right, Bogart's is running in the grass,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't really have any other choice. But it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to you have to simply, no, you don't really
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  Speaker 1: have another choice if you're a right hander thrown to
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  Speaker 1: a right handed first baseman, like you gotta basically throw
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  Speaker 1: that in Bogart's back because there's no other play to
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  Speaker 1: be made. And uh, credit to the umpiring crew for
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  Speaker 1: being all over that. And like said, big brain move by.
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  Speaker 3: By Chase Lee.
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  Speaker 1: Scott Harris, you know, uh fortune teller there. He was
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  Speaker 1: on the FanDuel Sports Network Code Baseball thirty, uh you
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  Speaker 1: know broadcast, and he said, like, you know, with that delivery,
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of right handers in the lineup, like
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  Speaker 1: they actually it was clear that they didn't just call
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  Speaker 1: them up because well, we need a right hander. They
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  Speaker 1: called them up because and again this is what they
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  Speaker 1: do so it's not like surprising or am I trying
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  Speaker 1: to give them credit.
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  Speaker 2: I was surprised, though, Karen.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I just feel like they're pretty delivered with
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  Speaker 3: everything that you know, like that's well.
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  Speaker 2: I would have I would have had Chase Lee third
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  Speaker 2: on the list of pictures, thought we're coming up. I
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  Speaker 2: would have guess Tyler Owens, who's a right hander who
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  Speaker 2: I think looked a little more advanced throughout spring. He
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been great in Triple A, but he's he's been
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  Speaker 2: pretty good. And Jordan Belosovik has been terrific in Triple A.
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  Speaker 2: He's not on the forty man. So I think one
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  Speaker 2: thing we've learned throughout the roster moves of the last
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  Speaker 2: few days the Tigers love their forty man roster, and
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  Speaker 2: in a way it's a little bit Worrisoma because let's
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  Speaker 2: be honest, some of the guys on this forty man
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  Speaker 2: right now, like Lee, like Owens, are kind of projects.
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  Speaker 2: And Chase Lee's probably getting thrown into this spot maybe
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  Speaker 2: a little before he's ready. The Teggs has been working
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  Speaker 2: with him want to change up. The changeup hasn't quite
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  Speaker 2: taken off yet, but you're right, it was a righty
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  Speaker 2: heavy lineup in a way. Maybe maybe that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe just matchups here against the Padres Chase Lee ended
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  Speaker 2: up being the right move. We'll be curious to see
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  Speaker 2: if he remains with the team going forward or if
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  Speaker 2: maybe then they would shuffle things around regardless going forward,
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  Speaker 2: any roster move they make. I think we know then
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  Speaker 2: these guys are trying to put off a forty man
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  Speaker 2: move for as long as humanly possible.
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  Speaker 3: And no thoughts about Matt Manning yeo case in point.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, uh, we're gonna get to the he's
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, Cody, we maybe belabor the
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  Speaker 1: point a little bit. We had a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: to get off our chests to begin this podcast. But
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  Speaker 1: the main thing that is going to be a sticking
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  Speaker 1: point every time I look at a lineup for the
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  Speaker 1: Tigers is center field. We know that this in theory
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of there's a lot of temporary measures
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  Speaker 1: taken here because beer Lane is progressing through a progression
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  Speaker 1: or whatever phrase they use, and and and Parker is
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  Speaker 1: you know, starting to throw. So that's all good, No,
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  Speaker 1: idea about timetables. But in theory these have a shorter
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  Speaker 1: timetable than they had been thought of previously. So Javier
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Bias playing center field, Riley Green obviously still going to
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: get some time there.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: There's no avoiding that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: The big thing is that we have a sentence that
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure I ever thought I would say, as
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: in regards to center field, maybe shortstop, it was a
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: possibility Javier Bias replaces Ryan Kreidler as a team's primary
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: center fielder. That is technically true right now, Ryan Kreidler
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: experiment is I would say, for right now over never
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: say never on anything. I'm not trying to, you know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: kick a guy while he's down, but he BATTEDT one
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: oh five. I was looking at his Baseball Savant page, Cody, which,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: by the way, if you if you're on my iPad
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: and you google Ryan Kreidler Baseball Savant, it has a
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: link and it says you visit often. So if anybody's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: anybody's curious about how my Internet history is, there's a
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: good indicator there. Seventy two percentile range, thirty six percentile
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: arm value, sprint speed only fifty eight, which I was
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: actually probably more disappointed than anything else there because ex
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: self proclaimed best athlete on the team want a little
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: bit better than that. And fielding run value of fifty eight,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: so we know he doesn't really offer you anything with
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the bat and fairness, he never really has. But the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: fielding thing was going to be the calling card. And
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the Tigers set when they made this decision that they
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: believed in their pitching strongly and they were in run
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: prevention mode as opposed to some other guy that might
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: have more offensive upside. Now, the Tigers have a pretty
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: good offense. I know the guy skunk today, but they
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: have a pretty good offense by a lot of measures.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: And it's and by April twenty first, basically right after Easter,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: they were like, you know what, we're we can't be
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that much in the business of doing everything to prevent runs.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: It is essentially what what this move means to me? Like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: what is your read on on this, on this situation, Yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Don't we fire No, it fires me up, even though
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: it it's like it shouldn't. I'm not even being critical
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: because they're fourteen and ten and this is the right call,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: but it is. It's a glaring inconsistency in thought, which
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I guess is something that bothers me. It was pretty
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: obvious all along. Then they came out and said it
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: cry there was on the team for his defense. They
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: valued outfield defense. That was what was going to do
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: help them win games. Anything he did with the bat
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: was going to be a plus. Well, the bat was
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: bad as expected. I'm sure maybe they didn't expect it
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: to be quite that bad, but I don't think expectations
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: were very high, and you don't even make it through
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: April before reversing so hard. We had talked about like
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: there must have been some number crunching, some calculus that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Kreydler was going to save you more runs, blah blah blah.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: But did they change their mind on that or hobby?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, we never really got a sense of how
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: good of a center fielder Ryan Kreyler was. You could
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: track down the ball a little bit plus one defensive
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: run saves zero outs above average and a tiny sample
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: as hobby bias, maybe just as good, you know what.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe he is, so maybe you're not
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: actually losing defense. But it's a guy who has even
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: less outfield experience or center field experience than Ryan Kreidler.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: He's older in theory, you know, not all that explosive
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: anymore for as greade of a natural athlete as hobby is.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I just it seems like them admitting a mistake, which
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I guess is better than being stubborn and sticking with
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: a mistake, right, But it's like, what was the point,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: what was the point of the whole Ryan Kreisler thing
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: to begin with something that looked very questionable from day one,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: and it seemed like there's some pushback on that. No
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: trust us, we value as defense. You don't even make
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: it through the month, So like, was that you didn't
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: have Jaen on there? I know Jaen's not actually hitting
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: all that well right now, but but.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Was that worth it or did you just kind of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: waste I don't under the way I would phrase it
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: is I don't see a plan fulfilled by this sequence
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: of events in a short time frame, if that makes sense.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Where it's like you could still like there's not like
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a glaring It's not like the team as a whole
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: is underperforming to the extent that you got to get
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: every single bat that you can. You see what I'm saying,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And and again I'm not even like saying they did
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: did the wrong move by by by doing this with Kreiler, Like, no,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: what nobody was really fired up for is bats. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: can live with a lot of stuff if someone is
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: not does not have a track record a hitting, if
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: there's some upside there, and there's not really any upside
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: in Chrysler's bat, and you like he did try to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: kind of do like the spark thing, you know, try
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: to bun on base, you know, a couple of times,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: but even that wasn't really successful. So it just it
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was he was bringing you nothing. He was bringing you
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: nothing at the plate. And I feel for the guy,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: but he was bringing you nothing at the plate. Uh
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And and defensively you thought, okay, well at least there's this.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: But he also didn't wow me defensively either, Like I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: expected to be wild. Was that bad of me to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: expect to be wild?
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: A little bit?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: But not bad of you? But I was never he
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: was going to be a plus center fielder, Like it's
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: very hard to be a plus center fielder, sure, but.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, I just I just felt like.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I felt like there was not the best use of
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: roster construction. But I also thought, well, at least the
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: thought process is this and it will play out, and
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: it had an expiration day anyway, so they decided to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: kind of pull the plug early. But they did so
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: in favor of Jace Young. Jase Young, who is our
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• 23:31
  Speaker 1: out for five so far this season at the major
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: league level. But I gotta know a couple of things.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Number One, is this a plan? Is there a plan
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: for him right now? Because I don't want him to
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: be the guy that gets jerked between Toledo and Detroit,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: because I think he's talented enough that given a run,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I just want to see what it's like given a run.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Basically Number two defense. Obviously, he's at third base, so
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: you've swapped the center fielder for third basement. But I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: get told all the time that he is terrible in
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the field, and he makes I would say, above average
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: plays without me trying to proclaim he's gonna be a
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: gold Glove or anything, but he made some tough plays
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: already in Detroit this season, and if you want to
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: go by to Leo numbers, which I know I said
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: were a waste, he was four h nine on base.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: He did improve his walk in strikeout ratio twenty walks,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: twenty two strikeouts, eight extra base hits for the mud Hens.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So like, there's there's something there that I want to see.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So again, what did I say earlier about Kryler upside.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: There's obviously some semblance of upside in Jace Young's bat.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know about defense, but.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I want to see it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: But he is our player spotlight because as of now,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: you just like this. Also, this run does kind of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: feel like an expiration date and it's a combination of
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: vier Ling and Parker Medows coming back probably for Jace Young,
• 24:58
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• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Karen, I think I think somewhere Scott Harrison, aj
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Han Trenya listened to the previous segment, but like, you
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: don't get it. There's one of the I do good.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I just didn't get to it all in one point.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: One of the things they did in pulling the plug
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: in Kridler is they swatched a right handed bat for
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: a left handed bat. This team that we all thought
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: was going to be too left handed, well minus Parker Meadows,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: suddenly they've almost been not left handed enough. There have
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: been a couple key light game situations where aj Hinch
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: had no left handed bat to turn to on the bench.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: So maybe you think, you know, Hobby's playing a little
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: better and maybe he can be alright in center. Maybe
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: it's worth not just having a hitter, but a left
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: handed hitter or to insert in the lineup. I think
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: that's a big reason Jase gets the call here. There
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: were some things to like about what he did in Toledo.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the one base numbers. The average exit velocity
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: was up I think ninety one point five miles an hour.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: That's really encouraging. There's also some things not to like.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I think he was hitless in like seven of eight
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: games before he got called up, so it wasn't that
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: much of a vote of faith in what he was
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: currently doing, even though some of the underlying things were okay.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: It was kind of like, all right, we gotta get
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Kredler out of here, and maybe we just got to
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: have a left handed hitter. I'm really hopeful for Jay Song.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: That doesn't necessarily mean optimistic, It just means like, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: would like to see Jay Song succeed because I like
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: his style. I like how hard he plays. I like
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: that he's gone back to wearing the EyeBlack like he
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: talked about third base. I've always seen him as more
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: sure handed than he gets credit for. Like, I don't
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: think he bobbles the ball really like often. I haven't
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: seen it. I don't think he moves that well though,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: so I think he's going to get dinged on the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: range and he hasn't been hurt by it. He made
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a great, strong throw Monday night. But like, I've never
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: seen anyone kind of crow hop across the infield like
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Jays Young does, and I think that is going to
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: be a little bit of a problem, especially at major
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: league speed and in the bat. We all know they're
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: hitting up side, like we know what, We've heard it
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: for years. His very early taste in the major leagues,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: he's been let me know, if you've heard this, you
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: say this about it here before he's just looked late
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: he's looked late not getting around on major league velocity.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Hitting velocity has always been a little bit of concern
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: with Jays. I think he got beat some top real
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: fastballs Tuesday night, but it's in there somewhere. So I
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: hope he gets a little bit of an extended run
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens. I think the hope is
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Matt Vierlin can go in a rehab assignment, maybe the
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: start of May, and so maybe you're not too far
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: away from getting him back. A little bit tough to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: tell on Parker, even though he's throwing, and same with Matt.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: The Tigers are taking these throwing programs very slowly. They're
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: building these guys up. I think even Vielin kind of said,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: you know, his first few days, it just didn't feel right.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: It's not like you get out there and you're just
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: back to normal. And that may be even more pronounced
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: with Parker Meadows. So I'm sure there will be more
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: roster wrinkles ahead, perhaps in the very near future.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I'll give Jay's credit for this.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: He decided he got called up this year and he
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm not I'm not playing myself in the
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: bad hops like he is he is attacking the ball,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: which you know, like I said, give him credit for that.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Does that wrap up with this? A couple couple little
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: fun topics on a Tuesday night, Cody, you issued a
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: challenge to me and you were like, look, brend and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: handed feet. He was our last FanDuel player spotlight. His
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: nickname on Baseball reference is hands and feats and that's unacceptable.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Again, how how do these things get on?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, his teammates actually call him that though, Still.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Come on, like, there's gotta be a do better, do better.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So here's my attempt at doing better. You're gonna criticize something,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you have to, you have to come up with some
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: sourt of solution or idea.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I believe in that. So here's my idea.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. I like alliteration. Brendan Handeffee, the handyman, handyman.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: You know he's a reliever, so obviously, you know, trusted
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: in a variety of situations. Handyman's are typically you know
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: they're doing uh, you know they're doing work around the house. Obviously,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you know what the number one pitch that Brendan Hannefe
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: throws is.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: It's the sinker.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: A little plumbing, a little plumbing, pun the sinker, the handyman,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Brandon Haniffee the.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Handyman, Brendan Handiffe the handy Man. I love I love this.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: You have blown away my expectations. That is so much
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: better than hands and feet. If his teammates do not
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: start calling him the handyman, they're doing it wrong. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: will try to help you spread the gospel of this
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: nickname because that's really good.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: And also, like if there was an actual like it
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: could actually be a company like you know, hand i
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Fee the Handyman, Like I could see that in a
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: workman to be honest, like, well.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Hopefully he is pitching in the major leagues.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: For not him.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying like it actually would be like a
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: business name that I think would work. Okay, And then
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I'm glad I got your approval on that, Cody. And
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: then lastly, we haven't talked about this. We don't have
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: to talk about it long. There was no home run
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: celebration that the Tigers are doing, and I have a
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: theory as to why there is none right now.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Ballplayers tend to.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Be superstitious, right, and last year the architect, if you
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: would of the of the Pizza Pizza celebration was one
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Spencer Torkelsen, who was coming off a thirty home run
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: season and then proceeded to not have a great offensive
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: season and spent some time down in Toledo. So my
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: theory is that the being the person who comes up
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: with the celebration is cursed in the team's minds. So
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: nobody and I'm bet your Torque is definitely not trying to.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Think of ideas.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Is nobody wants to be the person to come up
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: with the home run celebration idea because it potentially could
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: be looked at as cursed.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Well, Kieran, we were told Jake Rogers was working on
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: coming up with the home run celebration. Rodgers on the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: injure of list, Yeah it may be cursed, but he
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: also never came up with an idea. So I don't
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: know what's going on there, but I think you're onto something.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: It was supposed to be Jake's responsibility. Jake then pulled
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: an oblique maybe you just need to not have a
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: home run celebration and the you know, the boys are
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: hitting the ball pretty well for the most part.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe probably just gonna wait until they get a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: hold a cold spell is probably what my prediction would be.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I just and then there's one suggestion from my wife. Uh,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the celebration just can't be putting on pausees head. She
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: that's a little sacrilege. She does not like the fact
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that the Red Sox are doing it with Wally, so
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: she does not want pauses head removed and then put
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: on a player and then taken off. So that so
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that's that's off the table, all right, Jake off the table.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: In honor of Lee Corso come on, well let him do.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Nobody's no one's doing it on ESPN after he's done anyway,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: So maybe the whole idea should be scrapped, just in general,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: in honor of course. So all right, you guys can
• 32:35
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• 32:46
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• 32:47
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• 32:50
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