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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, November 27 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. The first player
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  Speaker 1: of the game seventies seven yards Brett Haylory erupt, and
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  Speaker 1: so does all tells Jaguars Did you Jack, Jack Warris?
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  Speaker 1: Did you Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps that John
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  Speaker 1: oh saves. Actually, Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome in Jaguar's Drive Time. Wednesday Morning, brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by Duval Motor Company. We hope most of you
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  Speaker 1: are enjoying a day off getting ready for Thanksgiving holiday.
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  Speaker 1: But us we have a busy day. It is a
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  Speaker 1: busy day. Most people have Wednesday off before Thanksgiving with
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  Speaker 1: amateur night. I know tonight as amateur there there are
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. None of my friends are actually and
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  Speaker 1: I take the same route to work. Um, and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't see as many people on Atlantic Boulevard today at
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  Speaker 1: the time that we normally come in. Did you see
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  Speaker 1: Henry Winkler on the way to work? Well, if he was,
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  Speaker 1: If he were here, Ashlyn wouldn't be able to recognize,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll be able to pick him out of a
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  Speaker 1: line up here. She does not know who the Fonds was.
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  Speaker 1: Don't embarrass me on til this. Well, obviously you're without embarrassment.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get wearing is probably older than her. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: give me a break. Most of the clothes, don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: So she's not going to know Arthur fond thank you.
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  Speaker 1: But I like the Happy Day's reference right around the
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  Speaker 1: holiday that that was always a good episode, the Thanksgiving episode.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll tune in, I'll come back write the shark.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know the phrase jump the show? Goods? Stop
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  Speaker 1: quizzing me on things. I don't need to know Ashlyn,
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  Speaker 1: as she didn't know anything. I know very important things,
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  Speaker 1: all right, all right, I don't even want to know
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  Speaker 1: big things. Things I know. Big thing one is focus
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  Speaker 1: on football. The talk of coaches whether or not they'll
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  Speaker 1: still have a job and contracts cannot enter this locker room.
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  Speaker 1: They have to focus on the bucks because they don't
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  Speaker 1: have a choice at this point, and they have to
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  Speaker 1: focus on sticking together barring everything that's happened. You have
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  Speaker 1: to stick together as a team, and you have to
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  Speaker 1: be able to finish a year uh and go out
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  Speaker 1: swing and go out fighting. That's the mark of trueman,
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  Speaker 1: a smart of the team that that knows what it
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  Speaker 1: wants to be. Um, and you know that's that's who
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  Speaker 1: we want to be. This a lot of fighters in
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  Speaker 1: this locker room. There's a lot of guys who wotun
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  Speaker 1: extremely hard, but we can't lay down that Big thing
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  Speaker 1: too is focus on four net yards from scrimmage. This season,
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  Speaker 1: he has been a bright spot to a not very
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  Speaker 1: positive season so far. He's also been a pleasant guy
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  Speaker 1: to be around. He was the star of Turkey Time
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  Speaker 1: with the O Line yesterday community event. It's been over
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  Speaker 1: an hour there definitely with the star. Kids were so
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  Speaker 1: excited to see him. So we'll talk more about him
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  Speaker 1: and what a key is to the game on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: against the Bucks and Big Thing three it's focus on
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  Speaker 1: winning one game. The Jaguars they were four and seven
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  Speaker 1: also and they focused on winning one game. It's a
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  Speaker 1: cliche fans that want to hear it, but that's the
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  Speaker 1: only thing you can focus on right now. And like
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  Speaker 1: we've said many times, winning makes everything better. I always
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  Speaker 1: look at it in this profession winning. If you're winning,
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  Speaker 1: you have a pretty good culture. You know. If you're losing,
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  Speaker 1: then either you're not you don't have a good culture,
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  Speaker 1: or you're not good enough. Putting the players in the
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  Speaker 1: best position, or you don't have talent. I mean, really,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's that's kind of how I look at He's
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  Speaker 1: a frank, honest man. At times I included the thing
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  Speaker 1: not because I want to make comparison in terms of
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  Speaker 1: this team making the playoffs, because that looks so bleak. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And when you've been beaten in three consecutive games like
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  Speaker 1: this team has, there's no business. But John, you were
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  Speaker 1: in that locker room, you remember, Uh, they were able
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  Speaker 1: to singularly focus on Baltimore since in Addie, Tennessee, Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Atlanta, the focus was a little off because
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  Speaker 1: they were thinking, hey, we're gonna win five in a row.
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  Speaker 1: And the Falcons were terrible, and you just got the
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  Speaker 1: feeling that day that they weren't as dialed in. But
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  Speaker 1: I remember that particular football team. Remember, I mean that
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  Speaker 1: four and seven felt horrible. The media had Tom Coughlin,
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  Speaker 1: not just the local but the national fired. It was overdone,
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  Speaker 1: um and you know, second year football team rebuilding and
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  Speaker 1: they in the middle of it, they cut Andre Riisen
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  Speaker 1: and that was a circus like feeling in and of itself.
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  Speaker 1: It was bad in ninety six for those of you
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  Speaker 1: who weren't old enough to right it was really it
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  Speaker 1: was every bit as bad. But they had been hammered
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  Speaker 1: in St. Louis and then they beat the Ravens and
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  Speaker 1: hammered against Pittsburgh and everybody thought at four and seven,
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  Speaker 1: I thought that ship was sunk um. And again the
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  Speaker 1: result here, you hope, is something to build on. It's
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  Speaker 1: what Nick Foles was talking about yesterday. Something to build on,
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  Speaker 1: something to give you a positive end to the season
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  Speaker 1: so that you don't go into the offseason thinking you've
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  Speaker 1: gotta blow everything up. Yeah, and I don't think at
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  Speaker 1: this stage of the season that's ever a big problem.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll say it by this um. The quote we
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  Speaker 1: had from it was Chris Connley talking at the top.
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  Speaker 1: That's what players say this time of year, when you're
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  Speaker 1: four and seven year out of it. That's going to
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  Speaker 1: be the theme. And I think that's how the players
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  Speaker 1: take it. I think they do focus on one game.
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  Speaker 1: They focus on their job. The key and the way
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  Speaker 1: teams turn seasons around. If a team that's focusing, if
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  Speaker 1: they get a break early in that first game and
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  Speaker 1: they get that. When most players focus when the game starts,
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  Speaker 1: it's when the bad stuff happens as much as the
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  Speaker 1: pattern has been the last two or three weeks. When
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  Speaker 1: something goes wrong, that's when it starts to go awry
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. So the teams like this that struggle,
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  Speaker 1: which is most of them, are the ones that when
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  Speaker 1: adversity hits all of a sudden sides. That's been this
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  Speaker 1: team's issue. So can they do what they've been doing
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  Speaker 1: in the first half, Because they've done what Chris is
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  Speaker 1: saying in the first half, they just haven't done it
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  Speaker 1: for the whole game. And it's been a you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a weak team in that respect because it's
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  Speaker 1: it's week up the middle of the defense. So I
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  Speaker 1: think they will focus. I don't hold that much hope
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  Speaker 1: of five wins, which is that what you're saying, But
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  Speaker 1: I think they will take that approach and if they
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  Speaker 1: get a break, this is a team they can beat.
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  Speaker 1: If they get a break and win one, then you
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  Speaker 1: go try to beat the charge. Well, and the focus
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  Speaker 1: part of it is you can focus on there's five
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  Speaker 1: games left, we can't stop the rum, the coaches on
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  Speaker 1: the hot see all those things. It's really, as you said,
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  Speaker 1: dialing it into just focusing on football, turning off the
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  Speaker 1: phone and all of that stuff that lets that leak
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  Speaker 1: in and really being mentally tough. I didn't think this
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  Speaker 1: was a mentally tough football team against Kansas City when
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  Speaker 1: Miles Jack lost it out on the field right and
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  Speaker 1: Jalen is talking and it was it was a mess.
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  Speaker 1: And then the first quarter jaaln in Houston loses his
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  Speaker 1: mind and I thought, oh, and then they became mentally tough.
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  Speaker 1: And they got through that section of their schedule with
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  Speaker 1: their backup quarterback and their best football player quitting on them,
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  Speaker 1: and got to four and four. They showed mental toughness,
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  Speaker 1: last three games not so much. So the focus is
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  Speaker 1: on focusing hard on just football and getting back to
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  Speaker 1: being mentally tough and finishing the season mentally tough. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think they're going to finish nine
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  Speaker 1: and seven, um, but from where they feel right now,
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  Speaker 1: four and seven feels like, you know, to nine. Can
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  Speaker 1: you get to a point where you're you know, seven
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  Speaker 1: and seven with a chance to maybe go eight and
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  Speaker 1: eight and people go, oh, eight and eight's not good enough?
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  Speaker 1: It is this year, based on where we are right now,
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  Speaker 1: that would be just fine. That would give you something
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  Speaker 1: solid to build on and I want to backtrack to
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  Speaker 1: big thing too real quick. The focus on four NET,
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  Speaker 1: give him the ball, feature him. That's what the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: did last week in Tennessee, and it produced a hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty yards of offense from scrimmage. He's got nine
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  Speaker 1: fifty one and he's averaging four point six per carry
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  Speaker 1: um found the end zone a couple of times. He's
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  Speaker 1: on pace for nearly fourteen hundred yards rushing, which is
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  Speaker 1: shy of the record that I thought Hetty had a
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  Speaker 1: game against Houston and a game against Indy he might
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  Speaker 1: be able to press that. But he's on pace for
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  Speaker 1: nearly fifty yards from scrimmage, which means given the ball
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  Speaker 1: anyway you can, he is your best offensive player. Don't
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  Speaker 1: want to hear about d J. Chark. They didn't feature
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  Speaker 1: Chart like they featured four NET. They went to this
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  Speaker 1: guy right here. He's their best offensive player. Get him
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  Speaker 1: involved on the field, now off the building. Said something
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room, and I'm not sure if you
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  Speaker 1: were still standing there, John, or if you had moved on,
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  Speaker 1: because you're scrambling after a game. But someone asked him
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  Speaker 1: about where he was mentally, and he said, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to focus on being the person I'm supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, he was saying, I wasn't supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be that guy I was last year, and this year
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  Speaker 1: feels a whole lot better. They're not winning, but to
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  Speaker 1: see him on the sidelines during the game, he came
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  Speaker 1: off with the ball in his hand after scoring that
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  Speaker 1: first touchdown. You were there, you heard him say it, Nope, focus,
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  Speaker 1: keep going, don't quit, Let's go keep going. Right, last
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  Speaker 1: year he would have gone his sat down, you know,
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  Speaker 1: had his touchdown ball, and well, I got mine right
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  Speaker 1: this year, that's not him. You saw him last night
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  Speaker 1: right at Turkey time with the offensive line. Tell that story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was so they jp actually see the event, and
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  Speaker 1: he introduced the entire offensive line, and at first we
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  Speaker 1: didn't see Leonard, and then all of a sudden, we
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  Speaker 1: heard this roar of applause because it was about two
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  Speaker 1: hundred boys and girls club kids and I look behind
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  Speaker 1: me and for Net walks in and every single kid
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  Speaker 1: knows who he is, and I mean freaking out that
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  Speaker 1: Leonard for net is. They're spending time with them, and honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, okay, that's great, he's here. He'll probably stay
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  Speaker 1: thirty minutes, talk to you a few people, and leave,
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  Speaker 1: because at times he's done that before. And that's nothing
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  Speaker 1: knock against me. It's great. They show up and they're
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  Speaker 1: busy guys. But we were there and hour long and
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  Speaker 1: we left and he was still there, and he was
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  Speaker 1: taking the time to go to every single table with
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  Speaker 1: about five kids at each table, sit down, talk to
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  Speaker 1: the kids, move on to the next. Never I've never
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  Speaker 1: seen him do that. It's a remarkable story. And I know, uh, people,
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  Speaker 1: especially your Twitter friends, only want to focus on Nick
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  Speaker 1: Foles and losing and the coach's job. But the transformation
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  Speaker 1: of Leonard for Nett from the guy who lost thirteen
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  Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed to where he is today pushing to
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  Speaker 1: have one of the best seasons to Jaguars running back
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  Speaker 1: has ever had um and how he is become a
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  Speaker 1: leader is a tremendous story going forward because he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be here next year, and you figure you're probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna put the franchise not franchise tag, the fifth year
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  Speaker 1: option on the fifth year option that we do two
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  Speaker 1: more years to have that Leonard here for two more years.
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  Speaker 1: He's a really good thing for this football team to
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  Speaker 1: be able to count on. Well, he's completely turned it around.
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  Speaker 1: And he's always had that affinity for kids at training camp.
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  Speaker 1: You've seen him go over uh and you can't fake that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I think, um, when everybody last year
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  Speaker 1: was accusing me of being a bad guy and he
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  Speaker 1: he behaved in a situation, he behaved a studge where
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  Speaker 1: that was earned. But I think he's shown this year
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  Speaker 1: he's fighting in a little bit. I mean there has
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  Speaker 1: been times where he's one of the ball. He's been frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: Every NFL player fights that. I know people out there saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: I saw this, I saw him reacting this way. But
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  Speaker 1: the point is he's winning that fight and he is.
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  Speaker 1: And all running backs went the ball, all players went
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  Speaker 1: the ball. It's how you behave and how you act
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  Speaker 1: coming off a moment of frustration, which he has had,
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  Speaker 1: and he has done remarkably well keeping it together, keeping
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  Speaker 1: folks for an entire season. He hasn't been on the
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  Speaker 1: injury port ry. Not so take that Sexton. I did
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  Speaker 1: not think now, But but how could you think that
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  Speaker 1: his running style, especially the first two years he was
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  Speaker 1: he missed games. He runs like girl Campbell for goodness. Six.
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  Speaker 1: He runs like Marie Jones drew in terms of the
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  Speaker 1: way that he puts his shoulders in his knees and
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  Speaker 1: his hips into every play. And by the way, if
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  Speaker 1: you watched him on Sunday in Nashville, he was digging in.
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  Speaker 1: He played hard, really hard a running back. I can't
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  Speaker 1: recall a time James Stewart, Fred Taylor, Mariice Jones drew
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  Speaker 1: the primary running backs in Jaguars history. I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: a season that they weren't on the injury report. Running
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  Speaker 1: Backs are always on report, and and he's not been,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going into week twelve. Preposterous, unbelievable. He reminds
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  Speaker 1: me this year, and this is not really a perfect
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  Speaker 1: analogy because he's younger in his career, but we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about it before, Brian, and he has an eleven won.
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  Speaker 1: Mojo won the rushing title. He did not most running
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  Speaker 1: type and most rushing titles are filled with forty five
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  Speaker 1: yard runs. Mojo that year it felt like he got
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  Speaker 1: the rushing title with with whatever the number is divisible
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  Speaker 1: by five, like every run was four or five yards,
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  Speaker 1: because he worked for everything for net has had some
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  Speaker 1: long ones this year, but he's earned every yard he's gotten,
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  Speaker 1: and he's run smart. Uh he's been impressive. He's been
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  Speaker 1: and it's uh in in what is becoming a lost season,
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  Speaker 1: not lost yet, but what looks like a lost season.
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  Speaker 1: He's been a remarkable story and it's too bad for
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  Speaker 1: him that it doesn't accompany maybe a playoff spot or
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  Speaker 1: a push, because when you're on a four and seven team,
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  Speaker 1: no national guys come in to do the story. So
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  Speaker 1: it's getting lost a little bit, and I think getting
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  Speaker 1: lost a lot some people nationally because he's not scoring touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: Fantasy football people aren't noticing him, so it's not like
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  Speaker 1: it's not a high profile NFL network thing. But I
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  Speaker 1: think the people who know him, the people around him
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  Speaker 1: and Leonard I think will grow from this season, take
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  Speaker 1: a lot of pride in it because he's earned that.
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  Speaker 1: Every time you look in his direction, you see something
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  Speaker 1: that's good. When we come back, we go around the
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  Speaker 1: locker room, lots and news about the upcoming game against
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  Speaker 1: I'm now well aware what happy days is. It's amazing
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  Speaker 1: if it we're just we're singing the song and I
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  Speaker 1: haven't heard it years, forty years. Thank you, guys. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in line? Happy days? Many? See the things I learned
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  Speaker 1: thanks to you too. Don't even get it started on
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  Speaker 1: Laverne and Shureley. Okay, let's go around the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: Shall we get off this topic? All right? So basically
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  Speaker 1: every single person we talked to in the locker room
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  Speaker 1: had a similar message. How they're not gonna quit, They're
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  Speaker 1: gonna keep moving forward. But you can tell with a
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  Speaker 1: j boy it was definitely genuine because he has a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guys to lead right now. Certain things we
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  Speaker 1: know we can't control, but one thing that we emphasize
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  Speaker 1: is not to quit. Um. There's no quear in this team.
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  Speaker 1: We go out there, we still compete, we have fun
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  Speaker 1: with it because at the end of the day, tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: is not promised. This next year is not promised. That's
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  Speaker 1: how I look at it, and I try to keep
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  Speaker 1: that same energy within the DVS. So that's what everyone
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  Speaker 1: was telling us is you can't quit. But especially with ag,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's significant because he's such a leader on
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  Speaker 1: that defense, especially in the secondary, he doesn't have a
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  Speaker 1: choice to quit because they're all looking at him. And
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  Speaker 1: he's had to take a new role this year, and
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  Speaker 1: as Todd watched a couple of weeks ago about his role,
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  Speaker 1: and when I talk to a j about it, he's
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  Speaker 1: sort of downplayed it a little bit that he hasn't
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  Speaker 1: taken too much of a role since Jalen left. But
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: he's the guy and he has followed receivers a little
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: more since Jaien left. He's not going to follow as
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: much as when as Jalen Damon is here, but he
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: has done a good job of taking on a new
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: role and when asked to play that, I think he
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: has played at a high level. It's interesting, Um, his
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: cap figure in is nearly sixteen million dollars and this
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: team is gonna have to do some work on their
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: cap So I don't I don't think he's not here.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I mean I think he is here. The question is
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: how much do they value him in terms of how
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: they restructure that right, how many years do they put
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: on and how how do they move the money around
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: so that he's compensated fairly and not overcompensate because he's not.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: To me, he's not a sixteen million dollars. It's gonna
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: be that's gonna be a very very tough call for
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: this team, really tough call. But you know, over the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: next five weeks we may get a sense of just
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: how much they value him or if if they're willing
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to take a chance and and move on, especially because
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: he's done everything right this year. Whenever he asked upon him,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: he's performed, you bet. And I did not focus on
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: him a lot last week. I was paying attention obviously
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to the front because that was the story. Uh, Corey
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Davis made a couple of catches, but he didn't have
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: a huge day. Now A. J. Brown did. But anyway,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't pay enough attention to know how many snaps
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: he had on him. This week he'll be tested though.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity too great receivers. All right, So
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Nick Foles press conference yesterday got a little hot at times.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: We got a little he did, and I could tell
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that he was kind of frustrated at times. But it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: good because, especially after the post game, I feel like
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: he had some answers and a lot of questions. We're
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: going point in his way. So basically he had a
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: message for the offense once again, don't quit. The big
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: message the other day in the game when we were
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: strugging and ultimately it sort of got out of hand,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: was just keep playing, don't look at the score on
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: top of my offensive guys, just give me everything you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: have because you never know what happens, and we're able
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: to get a little something going. But like those moments
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: right there, we were building something. No one will see
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that except us. So that was off a question Brian,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you asked about Leonard Fournett and how Leonard for Nett
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: was a great example of what was going right in
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that game. Well, because Leonard had the unproductive game in
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: London and then wasn't featured in Indy and you John Magic,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: you could tell he was frustrated. He was visibly angry
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: about that and then just kept plugging away and they
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: featured him and gave him the ball and he had
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the big day last week. So it seemed to be
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: um a good example of what Nick was talking about.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Something interesting and I were talking about Nick, but you
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: kind of triggered when you said it's about for Nette.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: People forget sometimes with these guys, how young they are
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: when they come into the league, and for Nett talked
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: about it last week. He talked about again after the game,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: after the first member of the Colts games when he
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't used, he talked to his father and Mark and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Marcus Allen, and he referred back to that after the
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: game the other day. And you forget sometimes because everybody
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: plays mad and everybody sees these guys on TV there
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: in their fantasy football leagues. You see him on your phone,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and you forget that, and you forget that they're human.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I do think we're seeing Leonard in a lot of
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: ways grow up. And as you said, came off really
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: frustrated after the Colts game, maybe not sure what direction
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: he wanted to take with this. Am I gonna be mad,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Am I gonna go ask for more carries? And then
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: he talks to his dad and talks to Marcus and
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: it sort of sets him in the right direction. And
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that's the process. A lot of these guys go through
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm off topic with Nick, but he can corrust
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: me finding people who can help it well. And some
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: guys don't do that. Lots of guys don't do and
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: they just sort of drift and ask for trades. And
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I was going right there. A certain porn back didn't
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: do it. But things like again off topic. I'm not
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: sure he got great advice than the situation Inuber twenty.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I think Leonard apparently is getting advice that you want
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to hear. So anyway, Nick Foles um there. I hope
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: that quote that we played winds up being the big
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: takeaway from that press conference because there was a lot
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: of other stuff about culture that people are tired of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: here and I'm I'm frankly tired about hearing it. Um.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I thought he explained what he meant better than he
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: did post game on Sunday, true, and a better situation
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: for it. He went into greater details. And again I said,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I said from the beginning on that topic, I get it.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I get that that's what needs to be said in
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: that locker room because that's how you lead UM as
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: a fan and a follow over team. I think people
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: worn't out on it, but there may be some truth
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to what he said about they kept playing, they found
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: something at the end. I get that it was mop
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: up time, but the offense started to look better. Sometimes
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: those moments are what's start to build and you start
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: seeing progress from it. Out of all the other stuff
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: yesterday from Nick Um, maybe that's the takeaway that the
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: offense will start taking and you start seeing something on
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the field, let's hope. So I get the sense that
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: he's tired of talking. That if you said, Nick, you
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: don't have to go down and talk and stand at
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the podium, that he would be just fine with that,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: because I get the sense that talk is cheap to him. Right,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: show me on the field and show me they're not showing.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: So what's he's supposed to do? He the only thing
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: he can do is keep giving people some encouragement. If
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the quarterback went up there when we suck, don't you
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: all see that? Would people take that better? Right? What
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: do they want him to say? The fans can be
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: worn out and it turn it off. You can't expect
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: him to come out there and say, now, let me say,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: on this play, we did this and we should have
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: done that. He can only be himself I don't fault
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: him for being himself. I don't care if people don't
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: like what I say. I say what I say because
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I have a belief behind it. That's what I'm interested in, John,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in whether his belief is genuine, if his
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: personality is genuine. And I stood down there yesterday. Normally
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I watch it in the other room, and I felt
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: it was genuine, authentic, and the heat that you sensed
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: was him wanting to make his point. I don't know
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that he is a great communicator slash leader. I did
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: get the sense that he is a leader that people
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: will follow. I just you can only be you, you
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: can only do you. We've seen guys around here who don't.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: They're not real, right, Um. I admire the real part
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: of it, and I get it. People only want to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: hear what they want to hear. He's not interested in
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: telling you what you want to hear. He's interested in
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: telling you what he thinks. Now, post game, after that
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: kind of butt whipping, what do you expect him to say?
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be angry. He's He's only gonna he's gonna
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: stay on message. Yesterday was a much better place for
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: him to come out and say it, and I'll say this,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: you've seen it for two games. Let's see what he
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: does over the course of the final five he's going
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: to be on the field, then you can make an
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: evaluation of whether he's the guy. Yes, but change will
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: not be coming this season. That's what we're insating, not insinuating,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: saying it, saying it's not. The headband and the mustache
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: will not be coming back this year. Yeah, you're just
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: like all of that. Joining the club another big time
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: joining the club. Joining the club doesn't help this franchise
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: this year. That's the point to make. Another hot topic
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: was Team Turkey or Team Ham Yes, very hot topic,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: but Chris Connelly did say this is the first Thanksgiving
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: he's head off during his playing career. Yeah, you know,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you can definitely tell where coaching staff's heart is um
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: when it comes to holidays and how they schedule practice
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and giving you time to spend time with things that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: are most important. You know, footb all is our job
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and everything, but family comes first and being able to
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: do that speaks a lot to think about them. Thing
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: you could tell the appreciation. I asked a few guys
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: about what they felt like when Doug was saying, you
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: know you have Thanksgiving off. You said a lot of time,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: especially for Chris. We don't have that other other teams.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And you could tell that that was a big thing
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: for them, that coach understands that day is family day.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I've done this a long time and the last two
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: years of the first two Thanksgivings, I've had off. Yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing for people who don't really realize it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Under NFL rules, players get one day off a week
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: no matter what. So I know people canna say why
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: should they have time off? You know there four and seven,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: but people get I mean, the players get one day
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: off a week. It's usually Tuesday. Doug Morn shifted the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: schedule to Thursday. I've never you know, I don't know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: that's the first one I've been around. Um, but I've
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: never really understood why more coaches don't do it, because
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: there's no magic too having practiced on a Thursday compared
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to a Tuesday day off. Yeah. So um, and I
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: think the Jags what they did have one. Coaches get
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: into a routine and Thanksgiving and Christmas or days that
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: we work. Now, most coaches I've been around have had
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a short practice Thursday, they get the kids, get the kids,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: they get the players out of there by early afternoons. Yeah.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: I think with the Colts they did everything in the morning.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: When I was there for ten years, I think everybody
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: was out there but name or whatever. UM. I believe
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: since Doug's been here over tiyears, I think they won
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: one and lost one after Thanksgiving. Uh so that's a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that's a better record than the other game. Just a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: quick story. The broadcast department was young. We were all young.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Most of us were single, and we were in here
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: working because they were practicing, and we taped Tom Coughlin's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: radio show early in that morning and we had all
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: brought in food. None of us were married or any
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of that. So we brought in food and we're eating.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Tom walks and he goes, what are you doing. Don't
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you have families? Well, no, we're here because you're here.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: When are you going home? Four o'clock? We're here till
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: four o'clock. Then, right, It's just that's what coaches do.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: They grew up in it. They played, they coached, they
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: stayed to the traditional schedule, and credit the Doug for
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: finding a way to give people a chance to have
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving off. I'm looking forward to it absolutely all right.
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  Speaker 1: and we start right here in Jacksonville with good old Bob. Bob.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Why isn't anyone on the defensive coaching staff been fired?
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: This is this? This is a much ask question with
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: a simple answer because A, in my opinion, because the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: coaching getting the problem on this tame. The the defensive
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: front is not as good as it was two years ago.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: It's not stopping the run. Well, the talent level across
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the board against the run is not getting it done.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: But the reason nobody on the staff has been fired
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it is because Doug Marron passionately believes what I just
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: said and that it's not coaching that's causing the problem
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: on defense. It's uh yeah, the interior, the line. It's
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: not doing a good job stop in the run. We
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: talked about, uh, you know all the stuff earlier, Uh,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: fight all those things. Marcel Darius when he was in
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the defense was not a complete train wreck against the run. Uh.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: They had the one game against Carolina. For the most part,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: his loss took them from being okay and hanging on
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: by their fingernails against the ruin to not being able
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: to stop it. It's not coach well, and he got
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: hurt in that game against against Carolina. Sou Merry Christmas, Bob,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Hoping your family enjoy it without someone getting fired, losing
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: their job and suffering this holiday season. Hope you can
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: enjoy your holiday too, Bob. I don't believe in firing
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: coaches mid season. It makes no sense. I don't think
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: do does either. At this point, fire rep send him packing.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: That'll make you happy. I just fire everybody. Mentality, Hey,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: look at the end of the season, if they underperformed, coaches, No,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that's part of the deal, you get fired, right, But
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: waiting for someone to get fired to change the equation.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Who could they fire that would change the defense dramatically?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: That would improve it? This week, well of the fans
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: thank Todd washed because when a defense struggles, it's always
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: gonna blame on the coordinator. Uh yeah, but would it
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. No, I think we'd see much different at all.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Fort Worth, Texas. J T.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I don't believe Folds is elite, but the way fans
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: are going at him seems a little crazy right now. Well,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and that's true. I mean it's uh, I don't think
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: he's elite. I think, uh, well, I can't figure out Brian.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if his arm is completely right right now.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And I know he's not saying it. I know Doug's
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: not saying it. Uh, nobody's really said it. But it
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't look like he is throwing the ball as well
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: as he did during training camp. It's hard to know.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: During the preseason we saw did I miss something? That?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Did he? I mean he broke the other collar, but
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: on the other side from the passing arm um he
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: said it's fine. Yeah. Other words, it doesn't look fine.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I don't get it, so which he's not saying, well,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I have a little shoulder thing. I'm working through it
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: right right. I don't know of any injury that's there.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: But you're right, there were some underthrown passes a lot.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I mean from watching him in camp and watching him
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: in practice. When we saw him before the injury, to
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: an untrained eye, it looked like there was more zip.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: But he's right, Yes, it's a little crazy. Everybody's gon
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: act to Foles, but that's what people do. They're going
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: up to watch and he hasn't provided the lift that
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: was expected. And were those expectations unfair? Perhaps, But when
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: you're the fifty million dollar quarterback coming in. Uh. Again,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: that's the disconnect between talking about culture and talking about patients. Well,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: when you're signed immediately, you know, when you're signed as
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a free agent quarterback, patience is not what people are expecting.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: So that's where the disconnect is. But yes, it's been
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: a ridiculous people going after He's gonna get five more games.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: We'll see at the end of the season and that
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and the point I was trying to make before the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: break is he has to have the five more games.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: You have to have a real evaluation because you can't
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: go to the owner and say, well, we put him
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: in for two games, right, we convinced you to spend
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the money on this guy, and we got everyone excited
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: about this guy, and we gave him two games. Let's
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: go back to the other guy. That makes sense. Yeah,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you can't do it. Um, there's nothing more to say.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: All right, let's with Dave. Do you think the young
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: players are developing? I know the results are not showing it,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: but are the young Jag pieces to build with for
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the future or do they need to be replaced. This
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: was interesting because, oh it's you guys own you know
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the secret. A lot of the ozone mail bag questions
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that I get if I probably got two d and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: fifty between the end of the game and maybe Monday night,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: and usually after a loss, they all focus on three
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: or four the same topics. It's different versions of White
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: todd Well should be fire, seven versions of White Morne,
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, and this is was the only one
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I got along these lines, So it was interesting to me.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And Uh, I think there's a perception perhaps that because
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you're four and seven that what that person asked isn't
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: taking place. But I do think you're seeing the development
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: of Joan Taylor, You're seeing the development of Josh Allen,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: You're seeing the development of DJ Chart. There are some
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: guys that no matter what happens in the future, that
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: will be building blocks, and I think there are some
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: encouraging things going on. I'm not sure about Davin Bryan.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: For the last couple of weeks, I don't know where
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: that ceiling is going to be. That does not look
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: as good as it did for four or five games.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Concerned about Ronnie Harrison's development, he was supposed to take
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a major step forward this year and he has not
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: played it hasn't Um, So I'll give you. I'll give
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you another guy that though, that I thought was encouraging
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: by his performance last week, was Cam Robinson. And because
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I had only that's true, then there's two tackles I
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: had only seen from Cam Okay this year. I had
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: not seen anything that made me say he's getting better.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: And then last week Harold Landry. There was a communication
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: issue upfront, and Harold the Lander got the stack early.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: But the rest of the game, I thought Cam Robinson
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: played as well as he has played this year, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: maybe as well as he's played consistently for a whole
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: game since early in his rookie season. And if you
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: think about that, UM, within the context of his career,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: that makes some sense. Okay, third year veteran, He's not
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: really a third year veteran, He's really a second year
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: veteran because he missed what fourteen games last year. UM
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: was okay during his rookie year. Remember, the the narrative
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: with Cam was okay, during his rookie year, needed to
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: get better to live up to his draft status. Didn't
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: play well early before, he got hurt in his second year,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and then he's coming in this year off of an
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: A C L. So there's got to be some development.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: If what you're saying is true, it's a good sign
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: because then they've got their two tackles. I thought you
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: were brewing up something. Well, we're gonna throw up the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: four net um because we've seen him develop. We talked
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: earlier about him, so there's no you don't necessarily think
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: of running backs he's developing, because those are the guys
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that generally come in and they are what they are. UM.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But with Leonard it's complicated because of the off the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: field stuff and the and and on the on field
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: stuff last year. UM, I think you conclude him as
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a guy whose arrow is pointing up with plenty of
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: room to show his best stuff. He's on the list,
• 37:17
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• 39:52
  Speaker 1: joining us. How's it going? Absolutely Thanks for having me
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it's going great down here. So first off, tell us
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: about Jamis instant in the season so far. I know,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: always the talk of the team is how he's doing.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: From an outsider's perspective, yeah, it's uh, it's always interesting
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: with him that you know, he will make so many
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: incredible plays. He will win you games and extend drives,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: extend plays. But then of course we all know, um,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the touchdown and you know, the touchdown interception ratio, just
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the interceptions overall or not what he or the team
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: wants to be happening. They know it's a problem. They're
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: doing everything they can to try to get it down.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: But um, yeah, this game last week for US against
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Atlanta was sort of the way that it's been with him.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: That opened the game, couple interceptions and then uh, basically
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the rest of the game and they're turning around. You know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: he gets a seventy one yard touchdown a Chris Godwin
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: right after that. So, um, if they can just get
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: some those interceptions down a little bit, I think he
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: really could be something incredible and special. Case. From your perspective,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: what's the relationship like between Byron Leftwich and Jamis Winston.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: It's amazing I actually just had Byron on my radio
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: show this last week. We talked a lot about that
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: and the fact that he played quarterback so recently and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: in Bruce arians system, really was such a unique opportunity
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: for them to be able to relate to each other.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of mutual respect there
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: and um, they spend tons of time together. There's Byron left,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: which there's also you know, the quarterback coach, Clyde Christiansen,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and um, they are doing everything that they can to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: put Jamis in a position to succeed. They talked about
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: all the new strategies that they've implemented about the film
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: they watch of other quarterbacks turnovers, whether it be interceptions
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: or fumbles, and they sort of break those down, They
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: break his own down, put him into some of the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: different categories of what could have caused it, diagnosed every
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: single one. So they are putting everything into putting him
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: in the place to succeed. And I know that Jamis
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: and Environ have a lot of mutual respect for each other,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: so it's a perfect situation. And then of course you
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: have Bruce Arians incredibly involved, known as the quarterback whisper
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: for a reason, and Um, I think that it's a
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it's a perfect combination of people to be working with
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: him right now. Well, I think it's interesting and to
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: point it out, we know Byron was a very uh
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: roundly criticized quarterback in Jacksonville when he was a first
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: round pick here, and he was stubborn, he didn't really
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: want to listen that much. There were there were lots
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: of people that wanted to get into his head, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: he kind of kept everybody at a distance. So it's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: interesting to those of us who covered Byron to see
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: him now be on the other side of the ball,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: well other side of the ball, but other side of
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the coin and having to work with the quarterback. So
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: how open, how receptive is Jamis to all of this.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Jamis is incredibly open and receptive. And it's actually funny
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: because I asked Byron this week, now that he's a coach, uh,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: does he ever look back at anything about when he
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: was a player and thinks he either said two coaches
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: or how he acted and kind of go, oh my gosh,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: now I see it the other way. He said, absolutely,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: But um, it's funny how he'll hear himself saying things
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: that his own coaches said to him, and he just
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: he himself kind of finds it funny of man like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I have a whole new perspective now being on the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: other side of the ball. And um Jamis though is
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: has always been known as incredibly coachable and incredibly receptive.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: And if you ask anyone on this team what is
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Jamis Winston like as a player, probably the first thing
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: they will say is he has the most incredible work
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: ethic of anyone on this team. He is first one in,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: last one out. Essentially coaches have to make him stop working.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: That was something his quarterback coach said is I've had
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to kick him off the field because sometimes Moore isn't
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: always better, but he is constantly trying to get better.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: He's in here by five am every single day. He's
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: here for at least twelve hours every day. It's insane.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, his work ethic is incredible. Um No. A
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: lot of people talk about the Bucks running game, but
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: with the Jaguars run defense, the opponent's running game is
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: always a topic. How dangerous are the Bucks running the
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: football and can they commit to that considering it's it's
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: a weakness for the Jaguars right now. Yeah, so it
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: really for the Bucks has depended completely upon the game
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: plan that they really do want to be running the ball.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And as much as Brazilians is known for this no
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: risk at no biscuit idea, and everybody thinks that they're
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: just going to be throwing the ball all over the field,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and that's the whole point. He really wants it to
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: be balanced. And the Bucks actually had a season high
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: on three rushing yards is last week against Atlanta. It
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: wasn't because they all of a sudden figured out something
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: about the run game. It was the fact that they
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: actually got to have the lead at the beginning of
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the game. You know, the week before that we played
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: the same so we got down almost immediately and had
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to pretty much completely abandon the running game. So our
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: running game has really been focused mainly on just what
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the situation is in the score about as compared to
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: how successful it actually can be. So Peyton Barber and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Ronald Jones have really ended up being a pretty good duo.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: And Ronald Jones has emerged a lot this year. Is
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: that um quick burst of speed guy. He can break
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: things open, and um, Peyton Barber's you know, definitely a
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: guy that can ram it in there and get you
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: those goal line plays at the big time, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: third down type yards and um, I really think that
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the two of them combined, they really are a great
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: running game. It's just the fact that unfortunately the Bucks
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: have been behind in a lot of games to start
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: off with, so they haven't been able to commit to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: it as much. All Right, we'll be interesting on Sunday,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: that's for sure. Casey thinks so much for joining us,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: and we'll see you here in Jacksonville on Sunday. Yes,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: thank you guys, see you then, all right, and that
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: is our show, Jaguar's Dry Time. Have a great Thanksgiving.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: We'll be back coffee with the coach here on Friday morning.