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Are the Vikings the best team in the NFC North? Can they beat Detroit in Week 7? | TSH Ep. 62 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of
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  Speaker 1: The Skull Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're just
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  Speaker 1: a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Minnesota Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do, and tonight is episode sixty two of
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  Speaker 2: the Skull Hop. We started off by talking about the
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  Speaker 2: best division in football and of course, the best.
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  Speaker 1: Team in football, the Minnesota Vikings. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: We also kind of move on to a really cool
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  Speaker 2: Vikings Territory article that looks at the biggest winners and
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  Speaker 2: losers on the Vikings roster so far this season, and we.
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  Speaker 1: Finish off by talking about this huge matchup between the
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  Speaker 1: four and one Detroit Lions and the five and zero
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. You're gonna be at that game and it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be sick. Can't wait to talk about it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait. It'll be super exciting no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, thanks for joining episode sixty two of the
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  Speaker 2: Skull Hop.
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  Speaker 1: Grab a cold one and let's go. It's cool. It's cool,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Big Top Ventures. All right, So this is
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  Speaker 2: where we would normally spin the wheel of Purple Punishments,
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  Speaker 2: but we don't have to this week. It was bye week,
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  Speaker 2: so we didn't make any predictions. Vikings couldn't make us
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  Speaker 2: punish ourselves and no prediction, no wheel. Yeah, so we'll
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  Speaker 2: just have to wait until next week. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I should have looked this up. Let's look this up
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  Speaker 2: really quick. Do we have a potential wheel spin next week?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? So we both picked the Vikings to win. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: okay next week against the Lions.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so potential for both of us to spin
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  Speaker 2: the wheel next week? Probably not, I don't know, hopefully not.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to that, but yeah, either way, no purple
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  Speaker 2: punishments this week, so another week off because we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have it last week either, did be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we both correctly picked that they would beat the
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  Speaker 1: Jets in London, which they did, So there you go,
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  Speaker 1: all right, two weeks off, hopefully three weeks off. That'd
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  Speaker 1: be nice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be nice. But then I think quickly
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  Speaker 2: after that we start alternating. You know, we don't pick
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  Speaker 2: the same thing again for a while, so there'll be
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  Speaker 2: some purple punishment excitement here in the middle of the season.
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  Speaker 2: But either way, the Vikings are plenty of it, so
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  Speaker 2: excitement enough even on weeks they don't play.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that, we got
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  Speaker 1: some beer. Yeah we do.
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  Speaker 2: This is still this is the second part of the
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  Speaker 2: shipment that Titanka Brewing Company sent us of their beer.
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  Speaker 2: They sent us four different kinds last time.
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  Speaker 1: What do we tried? The rooster rooster, red tail ale
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  Speaker 1: or something along those lines. Yep, and an IPA that
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  Speaker 1: you're in the middle of nowhere IPA that I loved,
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  Speaker 1: and it sounds like I don't think there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: an easy way for me to get more of that
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  Speaker 1: without like physically going there, So maybe I'll just have
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  Speaker 1: to physically go there. It's like four hour drive but
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  Speaker 1: it's literally in the middle of nowhere.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe that's a part of the name,
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  Speaker 2: let us know Tatanka. But tonight, I'm really excited. We've
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  Speaker 2: got two more Titanka beers to try. We have the
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  Speaker 2: Buffalo Creek Brown, which I think Jeff and Titanka said
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  Speaker 2: this is another one of their pretty popular ones. And
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  Speaker 2: then Evan, it's that time of year again.
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  Speaker 1: It sure is. I'm wearing a sweatshirt for the first time.
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  Speaker 1: It's like forty degrees outside right now. It's finally fall,
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  Speaker 1: and that means that it's Octoberfest time. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 1: mean Octoberfest for me starts in like July, sure, and
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't end until like June. But you know for beer,
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  Speaker 1: you know. But no, we get to try their october
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  Speaker 1: Fest martzan Laggert, So I'm really excited about that one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I think we're gonna are we both going to
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  Speaker 2: start off with the Buffalo Creek Brown. Yeah, that works,
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  Speaker 2: and then we'll probably mid episode switch over to the
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  Speaker 2: tit toober Fest. Already it looks good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like a good brown as well. Again,
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  Speaker 1: you know me, I like a beer that's not trying
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  Speaker 1: to do too much. It just tastes like beer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: maybe has a little bit of that multi characteristic which
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  Speaker 1: I think this brown will but yeah, I'm excited. It's
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  Speaker 1: very brown, very dark, yeah, fee very amber.
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  Speaker 2: If you've ever seen Will Ferrell's Davenport sign video from
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  Speaker 2: probably more than ten years ago, at this point, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't scoll, I didn't schull. You totally cheated. You got
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  Speaker 2: so excited for this crowd ale. All right, let's fake it.
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  Speaker 1: I guess now you're gonna like it. It's good. Mm.
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  Speaker 1: There's like some chocolatey notes in there, like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: cocoa vibes. It's a great fall beer that is super good. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I can definitely tell why Jeff said that this is
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  Speaker 2: one of their more popular ones. Man, this is good,
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  Speaker 2: my goodness, And Evan, can I compliment you really quick?
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  Speaker 2: Your poor was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, look at that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you still got some head retention there and you
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  Speaker 2: poured it now more than a minute ago.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting there.
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  Speaker 2: Congrats and we need to scoll that again, Schull. Man,
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  Speaker 2: this is a really good beer. Thank you, Taitanka. If
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  Speaker 2: you haven't tried this one out, even if you only
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  Speaker 2: kind of like beer, this is one that I feel
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  Speaker 2: like most people would like. It's really flavorful, pretty dark
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  Speaker 2: in a good way. It's not like super thick. The
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  Speaker 2: flavors perfect for a brown ale. That's That's as much
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  Speaker 2: as I can say without going over the top.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's it's multi but it's got some chocolatey
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  Speaker 1: notes to it. It's rich, it's complex, but it's also
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  Speaker 1: just like straightforward and again I like a good, simple,
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  Speaker 1: straightforward beer. This is good stuff. I would have a
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  Speaker 1: few of these for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And what is it five point four percent? You could
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  Speaker 2: have a few of these and not be ruining near
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  Speaker 2: your day tomorrow. So yeah, yeah, really good beer. I
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  Speaker 2: wish I had a few more. Yeah, I think we
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  Speaker 2: just need to go take a trip to Tatanka and
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  Speaker 2: stock up because they haven't missed so far. I had
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  Speaker 2: thirty for three for me so far. So yep, thank
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  Speaker 2: you guys.
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  Speaker 1: You know who else hasn't missed yet?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a couple of answers to that question. First,
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  Speaker 2: you're going for the vikings. Their vikings haven't missed. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: there's a specific Viking that also hasn't missed yet. Knock
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  Speaker 2: on wood, will the thrill, Will the thrill is here.
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  Speaker 2: He's not coming anymore. He's here, but yeah, the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: are undefeated, and I feel, like I said it a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks ago, I feel like Ricky Bobby. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what to do with my hands or with myself
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  Speaker 2: because good grief, like nobody expected this. They figured the
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  Speaker 2: most people figured the Vikings would win five, six, seven
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  Speaker 2: games total, and they're five games in and they haven't
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  Speaker 2: lost yet, and that's awesome. But we got all the
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  Speaker 2: naysayers and all the people out there that are apparently
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  Speaker 2: experts and know what they're talking about, and they're saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't believe in this team.
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  Speaker 2: But on the other side of that, you're still getting
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  Speaker 2: some power rankings or the Vikings are number one, and
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  Speaker 2: I mean, well deserved on some point, but I still
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to think of it. Like I hope
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  Speaker 2: they keep going, but you got to know at some
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  Speaker 2: point they're gon lose a game, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely in this last weekend of NFC North football
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  Speaker 1: didn't help the Vikings. Really it could have. It could
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  Speaker 1: have significantly helped the Vikings because all three of the
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  Speaker 1: other North teams played while the Vikings were on there
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  Speaker 1: by in Week six, and you know, I was kind
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  Speaker 1: of hoping maybe the Bears will lose or maybe the
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  Speaker 1: Packers will lose. Didn't really have high hopes that the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys could beat the Lions, but you know there's always
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  Speaker 1: that shread of hope too, and no, none of that happened. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all three teams won. All four teams in the NFC
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  Speaker 1: North now have a winning record. They're all above five
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  Speaker 1: hundred and uh yeah, that's kind of been the big
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  Speaker 1: talker in sports world today. I think is just the
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  Speaker 1: NFC North. They're hot. And not only do all of
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  Speaker 1: those teams have a plus five hundred record, but they
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  Speaker 1: all four of them lead the league in point differential.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, one, two, Yeah, the top four teams are the
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  Speaker 2: NFC North.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy, It's absolutely nuts. And I can't remember a
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  Speaker 1: time when this division has been this strong. There's always
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  Speaker 1: been the bottom feed or the Lions or the Bears
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  Speaker 1: or the Vikings have been down and the Packers have
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  Speaker 1: just you know, obliterated everyone, you know, But man, this
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  Speaker 1: is it's gonna be a tough division. Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think I have this stat right, and this is
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  Speaker 2: not any groundbreaking stat. Everybody else has already said this,
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  Speaker 2: but I think this is the only time or the
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  Speaker 2: first time since the current divisions have been created in
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  Speaker 2: like the early nineties, that every team in a given
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  Speaker 2: division had four plus wins after Week six, which is
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  Speaker 2: kind of the most viking thing ever to be this
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  Speaker 2: dominant so far, and then also only be up by
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  Speaker 2: one or two games on the division because everybody else
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  Speaker 2: is playing pretty well against the teams they've played, which
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  Speaker 2: you pointed out, the rest of the NFC North haven't
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  Speaker 2: really played a bunch of talented teams.
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  Speaker 1: I think this deserves some conversation here because I was
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  Speaker 1: perusing Twitter and not that everything you read on the
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  Speaker 1: internet is true, but from some verifiable sources. Wait, what
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  Speaker 1: everything you read on the internet isn't true?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't believe you. Maybe if you have everything
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  Speaker 2: on the internet, I would believe.
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  Speaker 1: Everything that I say is true. Okay, oh man. Anyways,
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  Speaker 1: I sent you a few things from some verifiable sources. Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: OH and one against teams that are above five hundred
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  Speaker 1: Chicago currently Chicago, OH and one versus teams that are
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  Speaker 1: above five hundred Green Bay, OH. And two against teams
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  Speaker 1: that are above five hundred. So combined those three teams
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  Speaker 1: are zero and four. Wait, how many games have the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings lost. Vikings have lost zero games. They've lost zero games,
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  Speaker 1: which means they are too and oh against teams above
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  Speaker 1: five hundred, that would be the forty nine Ers and
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  Speaker 1: the Texans, although I guess the Packers would be in
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  Speaker 1: there because they are Yeah, I don't think typically the
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  Speaker 1: forty nine Ers are. I think are three and three
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  Speaker 1: right now, so would be the Texans and the Packers. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: But another interesting stat is how the teams that the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings and all the other teams in the North have
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  Speaker 1: fared against the other teams right like, that's we're I
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: don't know if you're aware, you're wearing our Alma mater
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  Speaker 1: sweatshirt right now. Benendorf's Bulldogs. Iowa high school football has
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  Speaker 1: moved to an RPI system, and so they look at,
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  Speaker 1: of course, your wins and losses, but then they look
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  Speaker 1: at your opponents wins and losses, and then they look
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  Speaker 1: at your opponent's opponents wins and losses to factor in
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. And Bendorf's ranked number one in the
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  Speaker 1: state right now, five.
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  Speaker 2: So everything's coming up, you know, the skull hop everything's
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  Speaker 2: working well for.
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  Speaker 1: Us, righteah. Anyways, when you look at the NFC North teams.
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  Speaker 1: The combined record of the teams that these teams have defeated, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty telling, I think the Vikings. The teams that
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings have defeated are sixteen and twelve.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, that's pretty good above five hundred.
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  Speaker 1: The teams that the Lions have beaten nine and thirteen, oh, okay, teams.
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  Speaker 1: The teams that the Bears have beaten four and sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: they're awful. And the teams that the Packers have beaten
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  Speaker 1: six and fifteen, okay, So it would appear to me
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  Speaker 1: that the Lions, the Packers, and the Bears have really
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  Speaker 1: only beaten subpar teams and they haven't had a true
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  Speaker 1: test yet. Does that seem accurate to you? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: And the other the caveats to those are number one,
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  Speaker 2: you can only you can only beat the teams that
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  Speaker 2: you're going against. So yeah, we can say this and
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  Speaker 2: we can feel better about this saying that the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the NFC North haven't really played tough competition so far.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not that's not their fault because the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: will play these same teams. That's how these divisions work.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody in a division for the most part plays the
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  Speaker 2: same other teams throughout the season, aside from a couple
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  Speaker 2: other things that are based on how you finished in
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  Speaker 2: your division last season. But the Vikings will face a
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  Speaker 2: similar schedule to all the rest of the NFC North teams,
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  Speaker 2: so it'll it'll bounce out the Vikings will they'll get
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  Speaker 2: in theory a little bit of an easier schedule here starting.
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  Speaker 2: I think after this this Week seven game against the
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  Speaker 2: Lines and theory on paper, things kind of ease up
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. So yeah, number one, you can only
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  Speaker 2: beat who you're playing, so it's not their fault that
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  Speaker 2: the teams they've played don't have the greatest record outside
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  Speaker 2: of those games.
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  Speaker 1: But also, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: It does make us feel better. For me, that kind
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  Speaker 2: of a stat makes me feel better about the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: as they are actually good, like that they're not the
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  Speaker 2: ones beating up on or even you know, getting slight
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  Speaker 2: wins against these awful teams or lower teams. They're actually
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  Speaker 2: beating teams that are decent. And I'll include the Packers
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  Speaker 2: on that. Like the Packers win was a nail biter
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  Speaker 2: for a little bit, and the Vikings did pull it
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  Speaker 2: out and they won that one. So the Vikings have
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  Speaker 2: a few quality wins so far, and for me, that
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  Speaker 2: just means, Okay, this team has something. There's something there.
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  Speaker 2: They're not fluky. They haven't gotten some crazy defensive touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: out of nowhere. They've gotten them, but it hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: the reason they've won every single game. It just makes
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  Speaker 2: me feel good about the team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I also think another minor stat that I looked at,
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  Speaker 1: and again, stats are stats. They don't tell the whole story.
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  Speaker 1: But when it comes to the point differential, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to find it quickly. Obviously, we've already
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  Speaker 1: covered the fact that the four NFC North teams lead
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  Speaker 1: the entire league in point differential. The Vikings are second
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  Speaker 1: in the league behind the Chargers. I'm pretty sure in
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  Speaker 1: points allowed. Oh on defense, and the other NFC North
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  Speaker 1: teams are pretty far down.
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  Speaker 2: I do have it listed in our little outline as
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  Speaker 2: far as just the Vikings or just the NFC North
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  Speaker 2: point differential.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just talking about the points against category. Sure,
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  Speaker 1: so they are second in the league in points allowed,
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  Speaker 1: which means the defense and we've known this, We've seen
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  Speaker 1: this through five games. The defense has been the signature
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  Speaker 1: of this team. The offense has played really well, and
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  Speaker 1: the offense has a lot of great weapons. Obviously the
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  Speaker 1: league's best wide receiver and justin Jefferson. We now have
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  Speaker 1: a running back Aaron Jones. Hopefully he's healthy, Yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: he can stay on the field. Jordan Addison seems to
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  Speaker 1: have recovered well from injury, and we'll avoid suspension for
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  Speaker 1: at least this season. Yeah. TJ. Hoginson's on his way back.
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  Speaker 1: The offensive line is playing really well. All of that
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  Speaker 1: to say, the defense is still the key part of
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  Speaker 1: this team. And I don't know that the other teams
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  Speaker 1: in the North have that stout of a defense the
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  Speaker 1: Packers don't. They gave up twenty eight points to the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings in the first half. Now their offense clawed their way.
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  Speaker 2: Back, and to be fair for that Vikings Packers game, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they gave up twenty eight points in the first half,
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  Speaker 2: but then they also only gave up three points in
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  Speaker 2: the second half against a team that was trying to
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  Speaker 2: decide whether or not they were gonna you know, coast
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  Speaker 2: or actually put the foot on the guess. But anyways,
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  Speaker 2: I do want to be careful about this because I
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  Speaker 2: don't think either of us are saying, yeah, the rest
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  Speaker 2: of the NFC North is garbage. No, I think there
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  Speaker 2: are some good teams. And again I think you're agreeing
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  Speaker 2: with me on this. The Packers are pretty good. And
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Jordan Love on one bum knee is actually not look
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  Speaker 2: an awful he had. Yeah, it was a cool highlight play,
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  Speaker 2: but it was a lot of luck. I would guess
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  Speaker 2: if you saw that Dobbs touchdown where he just kind
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  Speaker 2: of like out of nowhere threw it up and Dobbs,
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  Speaker 2: I mean they scored a touchdown, you can only and Dobbs.
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  Speaker 1: Made a good play on that ball where he kind
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  Speaker 1: of shook the defender off of him and then was
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  Speaker 1: able to get the basket catch right there and then
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  Speaker 1: had the awareness to go, oh, there's the goal line touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't you know, it wasn't like I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that that kind of a play is a repeatable thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's not how they drew it up. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say the Bears the last two or
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  Speaker 2: three games, Caleb Williams has started to look like he's
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  Speaker 2: figuring a couple of things out. And then the Lions
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  Speaker 2: their last two games they kind of dominated.
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  Speaker 1: They've routed who did they play two weeks ago.
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  Speaker 2: It was a Seahawks and that was the game that
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Golf had. He didn't have an incompletion. He was like
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  Speaker 2: eighteen of eighteen or something like that. So all all
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: of this to say, we've the schoolhot fully recognizes the
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: other three teams in the division. They're not garbage teams.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: They're not just getting lucky. It's not just oh, they
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: got some random fumble return for a touchdown ten times
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: and that's why they won the game. I think what
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: we're also saying is the Vikings seem to be a
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: more well rounded, more put together, and more consistent team,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and that will flush itself out and prove itself as
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: these other NFC North teams start playing a harder schedule,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: and the Vikings obviously keep going and what I've just
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: said is going to be a little bit of a
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: softer schedule for a minute.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I think another interesting aspect of the NFC North specifically
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: is when each team has their bye week. Detroit had
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: their bye week last week, Week five, the Vikings have
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: theirs this week Week six, and then I forget. I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: think it's the Bears are next week or two weeks
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: from me. I don't have any idea, so I can't
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: remember I looked it up. I think the Packers are
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: week ten, and then the Bears are are like week
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: seven to eight, somewhere in there, maybe week eight, because
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: there are a few weeks in there where the league
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: built in there are zero bye weeks and all thirty
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: two teams are playing. But anyways, I think the bye
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: week could factor in, and I think these early bye
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: weeks for some of these teams could come back to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: haunt them, including the Vikings in those you know, later
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: week fifteen weeks, sixteen, week seventeen games when injuries are
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: starting to pile up and your depth starts to wear
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: thin and you just you don't have the guys to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: go out and play. Yeah, exactly. So it'll be interesting
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to see. And there are always those divisional games at
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the end of the season. The league has prioritized that
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to increase the rivalry and love entertainment. Yeah, it's a
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: lot of fun, but it's also nerve wracking. It really is.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I think last season the Vikings finished off Lions, Packers Lions,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: and this season it's a similar ending to the season.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I like.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I think it's just a smart thing the league has
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: done just to keep teams playing their starters longer. There's
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: just a pretty big Hill Mary at the end of
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: the first half of the Monday night football game, and
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what happened. Rogers looked like he just
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: threw a deep bomb for a touchdown, but the ballage round.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: They just ruled it a touchdown. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: This is what you want to hear on a podcast
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: one to two to three days after a game is finished.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it looks like Alan Wizard might have just
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: caught a deep bomb Hill Mary touchdown at the end
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: of the half.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And I don't know.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not an NFL ref anyways, I forget
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: what I was saying, but it is nice the Vikings.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I think they lead the league in point differential, which,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: if you remember, this is another stat that makes me
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: feel good about the consistency of this team. Koc's first
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: year as a head coach twenty twenty two for the
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Vikings with largely the same roster that Mike Zimmer ended
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: his Vikings career with. Kose's first year, he led them
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: to thirteen and four record, and their point differential that
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: whole season was minus three, which means they scored three
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: less points than they allowed. Yep, and they won thirteen games. Now,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: that also did end with a pretty you know, flat
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: tire depressing playoff game against the Giants, but that's that's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: for another time. Anyways. With a thirteen and four record
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: with a minus three point differential, the Vikings currently have
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: a plus sixty three point differential. That tells you this
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: team is a little bit better, less fluky, more consistent. Again,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I know they're going to lose a game or two
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: or three or four however many, but they're good.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: And we've seen those down moments, right, We've seen like
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the second half against the Packers, the I mean, for
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Pete's sake, lots of things that happened in London, and yes,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the Jets, it was just like what what happened? It
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: seems like we just all of a sudden forgot how
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: to play football and we can't move the ball and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it's punt, punt, punt, or it's turnover then punt then
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. And I think you're right, the Vikings
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: will lose a game at some point. I think you
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: even tweeted this out on our account earlier today, like
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I think you just said, like it'll be okay, like
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: this should be expected. No one's really gone undefeated in
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: this league since the Patriots did it in what was
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: it four or oh no, twelve, We should we should
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: know this.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It was it was I don't care about the Patriots,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: like seven or something like that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was kind of close with oy. Yeah, I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: mean you were off, you know, notoriously lost to the
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Giants to Eli Manning in the Super Bowl, which I
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: think is really funny. But anyways, we should expect the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Vikings to lose some point. It'll be frustrating, it'll be
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: a tough episode to talk about. Yes, there'll be a
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: lot of glaring issues. I'm sure in that game that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: we're like, if they just would have done this, and
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: if they just would have gone back to what they
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: did against the Texans or against the Niners or whatever.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: You know, we'll be the armchair gms and the armchair
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: head coach in that episode. And you know, really it
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: really lay into Kevin O'Connell for all the things that
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: he could have done in that game.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: But if you want to hear how that sounds, go
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: back and listen to the first six, seven, eight weeks
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: of the skull hoop last season, because that's what it was.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: What words their record at this point in the season
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: last year, had they won two.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Games yet, I don't even remember. I think they might have.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Won two games by the end of week six or
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: something like that. That's something we can easily look up.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean this this team is good. Injury
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: bug will hit them at some point. They'll they'll get
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: just beat. They will lose a game. It's gonna happen.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And the thing that's making me feel better about saying
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: they will lose a game is that they're scoring points.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: The defense is stout, but it's not unsustainable. I think
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the biggest thing is the strategy of the game and
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: figuring koc figuring out how to close out a win
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: and not have that midgame slump that that we've seen
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the last handful of weeks.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Keep the pedal to the metal. Yeah, kind of like
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: what you saw with the Lions yesterday playing the Cowboys,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Like they were putting linemen out there, not just Dan Skipper,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: but like these guys were, you know, declaring as eligible
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and they were trying to get him touched, and like
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: they were getting ultra cute. It wasn't just like, oh,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: let's run this little flip play, let's run a little
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: flea flicker here, let's do this, let's do that. Let's know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: let's get the everybody on the offensive line a touchdown?
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah today, why not? Yeah, the Cowboys can't do anything.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Let's exactly.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: But I think the Vikings just need to adopt a
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: mentality of who cares. Just keep scoring, score every play
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: if you can, and it shouldn't matter that you don't
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: want to win by one hundred to embarrass somebody.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Not that.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are a team that are holding back.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Otherwise they'd be winning by one hundred every week. I
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: just think they need to get rid of that mentality
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: of Okay, we need to coast here, we need to
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: bleed clock. Now, just go just score points.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Who cares? So I looked it up. At this point
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: last year no bye week, Vikings were two and four.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: They played the Bears. Do you remember what happened? Do
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you remember what we were doing that night that they
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: played the Bears. I'm pretty sure this was what I'm
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: remembering it to. Oh man, you're gonna have to remind me.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Pretty sure it's the first night we did a live stream.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Oh no, was that the Broncos game.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I thought the Broncos was the I think the Tom
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Grossi game.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Was it the Broncos. I'm pretty sure I might be wrong.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with being wrong, but I'm pretty sure the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: time that Tom Grossei raided us was during the Broncos game.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: That was a Thursday night and we were just kind
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: of testing it out.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: You might be right. Maybe we did the Bear the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: week after that, we did a stream of Bears game,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and we also did the Raiders game. Oh yeah, oh
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that Raiders game.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: What a pile of garbage that game was?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Anyways? Uh yeah. The Vikings were two and four through
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: six games last year. They're five and zero through five
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: games after week six. Yep, this year, big big difference,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: big change. But I yeah, I think you're right. A
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: lot of it has to come down to coaching. And
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: even despite that record last year, the Vikings clawed their
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: way back. And I made a video last year on
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: our account where I was going through the playoff machine
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and trying to figure out, like, what's the what's the
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: path to the playoffs? Yes for the Vikings, because it
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: was still in the cards. It was a long shot,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: but it was still in the cards.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Well, and you were kind of doing it, doing it
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: in jest, but at the time, it was still mathematically
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: possible for the Vikings to end up with the number
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: one seed. Yep, obviously you were you were helping the
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Vikings all lot by making all the other teams lose.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of something like that. Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but mathematically, even somewhat late in the season, after
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the halftime of the season, the Vikings had a mathematical
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: shot at not only the playoffs but a high seat.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: And then obviously everything broke down and the injury to
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Kirk really really showed its teeth and you know, you
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: just you can't hold on as long. So the Vikings
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: ended up missing the playoffs. But yeah, it's kind of
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: crazy how even on a down year there's still a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: little bit of hope and this is not a down year.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: And I think I need to try to keep convincing
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: myself that it's not a down year while also keeping
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: myself from like getting my hopes up because this team
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: has hurt me before. And if you're listening to this,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: if you're a Vikings fan, this team has hurt you before,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and we all know how it feels and it sucks.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: But right now there's nothing to complain about. The team
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is good and the Vikings are going to the playoffs.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons the Vikings are so
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: good is because of some of these acquisitions that they
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: made in the offseason, and I think that kind of
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: transitions us nicely to an article from Dustin Baker that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you shared with me. Six winners and losers for the
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Vikings so far.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dustin Baker, he identified three winners and three losers
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: as far as the Vikings roster is going so far
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: this season, and all of the winners were acquired after
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: last season ended, and all of the losers were players
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: on the team previously. And not that that you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: if you were on the team before, you're a loser. No,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: but it is kind of funny how those matchup a
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: What do you think about that article and the winners specifically?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So can I should I just list out the three winners?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: So Dustin lists out Andrew van Ginkel, Sam Darnold and
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour as the three winners on the Vikings so far,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: winners being being players that have just really excelled and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: played well have a huge upside right now as it
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: relates to their performance on the team. And I don't
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: think I could agree more with this list. I think
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: it's perfect. Yea, Andrew Van Ginkele has two pick six's.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I mean he's on track for like a record number
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: of those, which that's the thing that's not sustainable. He'll
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: probably end he might get one or two more. You know,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: that's not one that you can statistically track. I saw
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: something today. I mean, he's been so good at he
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: just he locks in on the quarterback, he watches the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: QB's eyes. And I saw something today that said, I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: can't wait for him to do the same thing to
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the Lions because they throw those cute little screen passes
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to be watching for it too. Now
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that whoever said that out there in the Twitter verse
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: said that, like, yeah, I want to see Van Ginkle
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: get another one because I think it's possible in this
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: matchup against the Lions next week.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I might have seen this thing you saw because
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: it was like a meme and it was just a
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: picture Van Ginkle like the biggest smile in the world,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: like super jacked up, probably right after one of those
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: pick sixes, and the caption was Van Ginkle watching all
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: of these screen passes from Jared Goff tonight.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly what I saw, So I think, yes,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: obviously he's on the list. He's been huge to have
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns on two pick sixes as a linebacker.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And he almost had another pick against against Brock Purdy
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: in the Niners game too. But all that to say,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: he's playing really well.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: He's well deserving of being on this list. Sam Darnold.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: He's not been flashy, he's not been like, yeah, he's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: had the ninety seven yard bomb to Justin Jefferson. He's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: made some great connections with Jordan Addison, Jalen Naylor. But
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I think we've both just applauded his ability to manage
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the game, his ability to get the play call from
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the sideline from Koc, read the defense, make the right read,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: make the right throw yep, And yeah, I think he's
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: just he's done that to a tee and he's done really,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: really well. He's made some mistakes, he's not been perfect
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: by any means, but he's a good quarterback and I'm
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: excited to see how he continues to develop in Chos's offense.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, he's he's made a couple of
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: bonehead plays. Are decisions, some things like throwing a ball
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: down and it almost got was a fumble or picked off,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: or having a backward lateral that Brandon Powell had to
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: save him from. It's there's been a couple of that,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and they're kind of starting to show up a little
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: bit more. But I think what you were, what you
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: were really saying, is the nice thing, and we're seeing
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: it is Koc and Sam Donald. We're seeing that they
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: trust each other. Koc trusts Sam Donald to do what
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: to do his job. I don't know how many options
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: of plays Chos gives Donald every play call. Maybe it's one,
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: maybe it's t maybe it varies, but KOs trust Donald
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: and Donald. I think it's pretty obvious trust not only Choc,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: but he kind of trusts himself to make throws, but
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: also to know KOs is gonna put him in a
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: position to give him the best options. And I feel
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: like it's got to be good for a quarterback to
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: just know, Okay, coach is doing his job and if
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I trust coach, things will look the way they're supposed to.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: And I think we go back all the way to
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons Josh Dobbs game, where the story was
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: that KOs was translating.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: The play to Josh Dobbs on the side.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: In the in that he'd be like, okay, say these words,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and then as they broke and he walked up with
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: a few seconds they had left, Kos'd be like, Okay,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: so this is what that means. This guy's gonna go
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: this way, go this way. Your first reads here, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: then that's a lot of cuts off and the play.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: But but I think it's pretty obvious you're seeing KOs
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and Sam Donald trust each other. And what I really
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: hope is that that trust is all so seeping into
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy because you know, they've got to be in
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: the same meetings and they've got to be around and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I hope JJ's just being a sponge and soaking everything up.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: The one concern though is the last six quarters, everybody
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: says is that Sam Darnold is starting to turn a
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: little orange. He's starting to turn into a pumpkin a
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: little bit. But I think that's just a slump. I
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: think it's still gonna be Okay. We need to trust
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: each other and it's going to be good from here
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: on out.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: And not to make excuses, but he has been beat
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: up a little bit. I mean he's been hit hard.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: The end of the Packers game, they were coming after him,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and then in London the Jets were flying after him.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: And there's that one play where it looked like he
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: got like a shot to the ribs or something and
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: maybe bruised or broke a rib or something, and it
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: took him a minute to get up off the field
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: and we were all kind of holding our breath like,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, and Nick Mullins came in for a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: play and through a dart pass to Aaron Jones, and
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: then of course Sam Donald comes right back in. But yeah,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you gotta wonder if some of that's just like wear
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and tear, like your six games in on this season
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: now in well five games, I guess for the Vikings.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Five games in and you've taken some hits and your
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: offensive line has played well, but they're not going to
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: catch everything and they're not going to prevent every defender
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: from coming through, especially when you're going up against some
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: of the league's best. Yeah.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and those two injury you plays the knee
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: or ankle twisting, weird awkward looking play against the Packers
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: where Donald came out and I think he went to
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: the blue tent and then obviously the one that you
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: were talking about, to the rib one where he was
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: he's kind of writing a paint. Both of those instances.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Right after the play, Donald did not look like a
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: guy who was gonna come back into the game. Like
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: he looked like a guy that was going to miss
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: some time. Even the Packers game the next day, we
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: were all kind of like waiting on news from that MRI, like, okay,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: is his knee actually okay? Like or his ankle or
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: whatever that ended up being. And so far he's avoided,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: at least publicly, any major injury. And I think an
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: injury to Darnold for the season would do the same
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: thing to this team that the cousin's injury did to
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: it last year, which kind of it's kind of scary.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: It is, well, any team is one quarterback away from tanking, honestly,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: right like he saw it with the Dolphins, to a
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: tagov I looa great quarterback goes out in Week two
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and they haven't been the same since. Yep, we're watching
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the Bills and the Jets right now. We know what
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: happened to the Jets last year because Aaron Rodgers went
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: out four plays into the season last year or something
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: ridiculous like that. And on the other side of the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: ball in this Monday night game, Josh Allen right, like,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: are the Bills of the same team without him? Oh?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I doubt it. I don't think so.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: He's such a talented player. That's why the best teams
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: also coincidentally have the best quarterbacks.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I wouldn't put Sam Donald up there in
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: the like upper echelon of quarterbacks like playing like it though,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: But he's playing really, really well. I'm not trying to
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: downplay Sam Donald. I'm trying to say he is. He's
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: playing a lot better than any of us expected him
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to I expected at this point in the season. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: we could go back and replay my take. I expected
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, if he was healthy, to be inserted into
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: the lineup right now. Yeah, Week seven against the Lions,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: after the bye week, the Sam Donald experiment is over.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: It's time for this new kid to take over and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: see what he can do well.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: And I mentioned Donald his last six or so quarters
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: of Vikings football haven't been elite. I guarantee. If everything
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: was exactly the same except for JJ's injury, I guarantee
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: there'd be a lot of Vikings fans right now that
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: would be clamoring for JJ to get in there. They'd
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: be saying things like, Hey, this team is so good,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: we can't mess with this five and zero record. If
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: if Donald's starting to turn back into a pumpkin, thank goodness,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and I want I'm a very big JJ fan. I
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: will be super happy when he's the starting quarterback of
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: the team. Despite the things I've said about signing Sam
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Donald long term, I'm very glad that that's not an
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: option right now, because you just sometimes when you're in
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: a slump, which Donald's not in a slump, but he's slumping.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: He's kind of etching towards that a little bit. When
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: you're in a sump, the worst thing is to pull
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: you out.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And maybe maybe the bye week was perfect timing for
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald. Take a break, get healthy, like fully healthy,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: get back to you know, game one form. I'm ready
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: to go. I'm firing on all cylinders. Get some time
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: in the office with KOC with Wes Phillips, offensive coordinator
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: and really gets down to business. All right, this is
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: what's happened so far in the first five games. These
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: are some of the things that we need to fix.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Let's figure him out. We've got a big game coming
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: out of the bye week against the divisional rival, possibly
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: the divisional rival that could potentially win the division over us.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Let's figure this out absolutely.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: And I haven't heard any details about this, but I
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: hope a few things for Sam Darnold during this by week.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I hope he took some time to rehab a little bit,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: because obviously he's bumped and bruised, regardless of the severity,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: he's got some things he's dealing with. I hope he
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: got to have a day or two off, you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: take recharge the batteries. Everybody needs that, whether you're you know,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: the lowest of the low unemployed person or you're you know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady, Like, everybody needs a minute a day off.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: And I hope he did get to do that and
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: spend some office time in with koc in with whoever's
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: in that room, whether it's Josh McCown or Wes Phillips
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: or anybody. JJ McCarthy, I don't know, like I hope
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: they got to mix things up a little bit and
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: figure out the perfect game plan from here on out.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: And if they did all those things, we should be
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: sitting pretty well.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: We're not even halfway through Dustin's six winners and losers,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: but we are halfway through the beer for the episode,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: so we should maybe take a break. Yeah from the article,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: we'll come back to it. We've still got one more
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: winner and three more losers, which we'll talk about. But
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: let's let's crack open the Tayktoberfest. I'm super excited about
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: this one. I'm almost slightly concerned because when we first
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: pulled these out of the fridge, they felt like they
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: had some give to it. Yeah, that was weird.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping it's that it's a it's just like a
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: volume thing and they're not there's a little bit more
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: room in there. What I'm I'm hoping it isn't is
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: that it's like a an issue with the beer.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think it will be because we haven't seen
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that yet. Well's certainly not flat. I can already see that,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: so that's a good thing. How do I do on that?
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Poor dude? Not too bad, dude.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: You're getting there. That's that's darn near perfect. And hey flashback,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: we're going back to the good old football mugs or glasses.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: We keep doing that. It's nice to have a few
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: different types of glasses so that when we mix it
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: up and we have two different beers, we don't have
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: to like deal with the flavor of the old beer. Yeah,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: well can I can?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I be honest with you, I like the newer stein
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: the larger glasses that we've got, but if I'm being honest,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I think I prefer.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: The football glasses. They are pretty cool. I think it
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: just it just feels good. If we can figure out
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: how to get our logo on the side there. I
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: thought I thought we had something going with it. We're
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: working on it, all right, it's still in the works.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Well, all that to say, we're about to try the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Taktoberfest from tay Tanka, which I do. You do you
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: have any reason, any idea why it's spelled t y
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: k e tit Toberfest.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, No, I have no idea.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I initially thought it was for ty Tanka, but Ta
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Tanka spelled t I t not t y, So I
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe, uh, Jeff, if you're listening, Hey, I
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: told you Jeff from Taitanka. He was the one that
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: bought the other shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there's
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: a chance you might be listening right now. If you're listening,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: give us, give us some details about the ty Toberfest.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's like a common thing and we're just oblivious
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: to it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know, But enlighten us, Jeff. In the meantime,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: we're going to try this out. Let's try this out.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Let's go got a nice little ring there. Oh yeah, okay,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with this beer. I think it.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. They just gave a
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: little bit more when you squeeze the can. This is delicious.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: That the head kind of went away really quick for
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: both of us, But that's okay.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: This is really good. It's surprisingly sweet for an Octoberfest.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: It has a little bit of a like a sweet aftertaste,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: which I really really like actually, and it's.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: It's got a lighter flavor. It's still the flavor is
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: still full and it's there, but it's maybe it is
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: that sweetness that you're getting. It's it's not as I
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: don't know, deep, and.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: It's certainly not like as complex as the brown that
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: we just had that was dark and malty and chocolatey
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and complex in those ways. This is complex in a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: lighter like this is more of a like a fall,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: like a sunny fall day. Yeah, Like it's it's you're
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: going apple picking on a Saturday, and this is what
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you're gonna pick up.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: It's like a nice refreshing Usually I wouldn't say an
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Octoberfest is like like refreshing, you know what I mean,
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: like like a energizing boost. You know this this is
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: in a good way, but it's still an Octoberfest. It's
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: still had that that fall e vibes. It's not like
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: a citrusy ipa or anything like that. And it does
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: say it's a martz and lagger, so I mean, maybe
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: that adds to it. But five point six percent. If
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: I if I had tried this blind and you asked
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: me to point out the liquid just from the taste,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I would I'd picture something very much lighter in color.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: It's got a really good, good caramel color to it,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: but the flavors light and refreshing and still an Octoberfest.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: It's pretty unique. I don't know if I've ever really
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: tried one like this. You definitely get some caramel notes
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: in the kind of like the the aftertaste as well,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: like it has the maltiness, but maybe that's the sweetness.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Is there's some caramel in there that is contributing to that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: It is super good, A very unique octoberfest, one that
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I would definitely have again, oh one hundred percent. Absolutely,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: one that doesn't taste like any other that I've had.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: This is maybe this is unique.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a crushable october fest, and not that
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: octoberfests are usually like eight or ten percent beers, but
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: at five percent, it tastes like a four percenter. Yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: we kind of does in a really good way. This
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: is I mean, you're you feel like you're gonna be
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: able to crush a bunch of these if you really want.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel it's not like super boozy, it's not
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: super in your face.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: A light refreshing octoberfest, which I feel like you don't
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: hear all the time. Good job, Tait, Tanka. This is
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like we're both like not weird it out,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: but like surprised, pleasantly surprised by this.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna need to take a pilgrimage to Taitanka.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: What are you doing now? When do you open Titanka?
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: We'll be there. I gotta work tomorrow, but you figure
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: it out. You just call in. Nobody will know, Yeah,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: nobody will know. All right, we got to finish this
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: list here. We've got one more winner. We've talked about
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Andrew Vin Ginkol, We've talked about Sam Darnold. Stefan Gilmour
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: is the final winner and I agree too. The game
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: ceiling interception against the Jets huge. I'm staring right at
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: it because you're sitting right next to it there. Stefan
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Gilmore used to play for the Colts.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can see it, and if you're
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: watching on youtubeer Spotify, definitely, if you're watching like the
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: clipped out version on YouTube, you can't see it. But
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: we do have the It's like a commemorative pennet. It's
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: not shaped like a pennet, but it's the felt pennet
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: material that commemorates the largest comeback in NFL history.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: YEP December seventeenth, twenty twenty two vikings against the Colts.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: They came back in over time. They were down thirty
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: three to nothing and one thirty nine to thirty six.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: But Stefan Gilmour played on that Colts team and one
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: of my most vivid memories of that game didn't happen
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: during the what it happened during the game, but my
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: memory of it happened after the game. Watching some of
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the vikings that came out, Allen ripped Stefan Gilmour apart
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: on the broadcast for a hit that he laid on
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. He just kind of basically said, like, leave
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: our kid alone. He has no business going after our
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: guy like that or something, you know, as only Paul
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Allen can do.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Sure, we love Paul Allen by the way, Oh yeah,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: But it's it's just interesting that here he is on
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: this team and he's making a huge impact. Oh yeah,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I think between him and Shat Griffin, those two guys
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: have allowed very few completions. Obviously, Gilmore has the game
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: ceiling interception against the Jets in London. He's he's up there.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: In terms of these off season acquisitions, Quacy has orchestrated
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: to put this roster together and he's playing up to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: his contract absolutely, And.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't remember him hitting Justin Jefferson like crazy.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: I do remember the like the beauty full move Justin
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Jefferson put on Gilmour to score a touchdown in the
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: middle of that comeback, and maybe the hit was after that,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of retaliation. But these are
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: professional football players that are gonna It's a contact sport.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I don't have the specific stats in front of me,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: but I think, well one, quarterbacks are typically not throwing
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Gilmore's way.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: He's doing his job. And when they do. I saw
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it today.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: They quarterbacks when they throw Gilmore's way have something like
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: a sixty six somewhere around their quarterback rating, So they're
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: not doing very well when they throw Stefan Gilmore's way.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: And I mean, what is he thirty four?
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Super old, super ancient.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I turned thirty four in like a month. Yeah, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I'll be there just a few months later. But as
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: far as NFL cornerbacks go, that's that is super old
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: and super ancient.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: He's still getting it done. And I think he played
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: really well last year as well for the Cowboys.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Is that where he was last year?
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's just he's only had a couple of down
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: ish years and a down year for Stefan Gilmour is
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: not really a down year. I'm glad he's on the team.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I think the what ten million dollars they paid him
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: for this season is money well spent. And in this
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Vikings Territory article, Dustin Baker pointed out Gilmore signed right
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: before the season started. I think training camp was there's
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: still a little bit of time in training camp, but
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Gilmore had enough time to kind of scan the league.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sure the Vikings were not his only opportunity to
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: play football this year. They might have been the highest
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: dollar value opportunity, but probably not by much. But Gilmore
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: chose to come to the Vikings and he's proving that
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Quac made a good decision. And he's another one Gilmore,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Dalton Reisner. There's a few players that it feels like Vikings.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Twitter has bullied Quasi Adopa Means into.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Signing, but that's okay. They're working out so far. Well.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I've seen another graphic on Twitter, and it's this long
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: list of all these off season acquisitions. Sam Darnold included
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Grenard Andrew Van Ginkel, who we've already talked about.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour, Shack Griffin. The Vikings signed I think like
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: eight nine ten players for the same amount that Kirk
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Cousins and Christian Darrisaw would have cost Daniel Hunter, Daniel
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Hunter Sarri signed. You're right, that was just a but yes,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter and Kirk Cousins would have taken up and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: maybe still do take up a lot of that caps
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: based on the Vikings roster, and these ten players add
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: up to less than or about equal to what Kirk
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: and Daniel would have taken up. It's crazy, it's nuts,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: and a lot of those are defensive players. And I think,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: and not to take anything away from Quasiadafamensa, because I
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: think at this point he's proving he's a good GM.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: The team is good, and they have consistently been good.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: They would have been good last year if not for
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Kirk's injury, because he was starting to turn things around again.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Not to take anything from Quasiadafamensa, but I think the
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: defensive signings you have to give a lot of credit
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: to Brian Flores and for that reason you need to.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Even though he's earning.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: His his his head coaching spots somewhere, he's always been
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: a good coach, and if not for the you know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: legal issues that he has brought to the league, he
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: probably would be a head coach right now.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: But you gotta keep him.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: You gotta keep Brian Flores check and that again we've
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: said it that may have already happened. I feel like
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that one of the first times we had Dustin Baker
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: on the Skullhop darn near a year ago, by the way,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: was the first time Dustin Baker was on. I think
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: he either on the recording or just to us, alluded
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: to the fact that Brian Flores is currently one of
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: the highest paid coaches in the league coordinator or not,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: which he's proving that he's deserving of that. So keep
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: it up. Give Brian Flores a lifetime contract. He deserves
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: to be at head coach. He deserves all the accolades.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: But if he's going to get blackballed by the league
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: because he had the audacity to sue them for what
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: seems like probable, you know, good causes, I mean, if
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: the Vikings might as well benefit from that, you know.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I think we can make pretty quick work of the
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: next three those three losers. Ed ingram A, Caleb Evans,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Brian Osamoa, none of those players have really shown any flashes.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Dustin in his article on the Ladder two talks about
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: how neither of those two a Caleb Evans or Brian
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Osamoa really start on defense or have any snaps on
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: defense whatsoever.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, the Jets are about to score a touchdowns? Oh boy,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Reese Hall, Oh he got to the two or three? Anyways,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: keep going.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: But those two Evans and Osamoa, they've only really seen
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: time on special teams and they're not really doing a
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: whole lot to make a case for themselves as starters
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: on this roster. And then ed Ingram, he's a known
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: issue going into the season. Yeah, he struggled last year.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: He was stepping on Kirk's feet and run blocking. I
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: think he's decent, but when it comes to pass protection,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: he struggles. And that's where this news of Dalton Reisner
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: and his practice window being opened really kind of like
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: brightens things up for the Vikings offensive line, Like, oh, okay, well,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: maybe if we can get Dalton Reisner to brush up
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: on his run blocking skills, because that's notoriously his weakness
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: is run blocking, or if we can keep both guys
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and it's not like you can swap them out every play,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: but you almost have kind of that like hockey like
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: transition where guys are just kind of coming in like
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: mid play, off the off, the sideline there. You know,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: on your run plays you got ed Ingram and on
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: your pass plays you got Dalton Reiser. When it works
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: and you have the depth there so if somebody else
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: goes out, you can swap in one of those guys
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: in another spot and they can play if somebody gets hurt.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I don't disagree with that list either.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I think if one were to stay, I think ed
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Ingram is the one to stay. Yeah, just his second
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: round pick, and he's just got He's got the most
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: time and experience with this line. And no, he hasn't
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: played well this year, but I don't know who else
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: other than Dalton Reisner really takes that spot.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, I I also do not disagree
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: with this list at all. Ed Ingram, he's been the
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: achilles heel at times of the offense him and I
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: hate to say it, but Garrett Bradbury, especially this year,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the two of them have been you know, I can't
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: even think of the word they have not helped the
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: team at all.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: They've been underwhelming.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, sure, and they've been you know the reason there
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: have been a lot of pains When Darnold looks up
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: and there's already a defender into space, usually it's because
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: of Garrett Bradbury or most.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Likely at Ingram.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I think all three of these are definitely square on
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: the top of the list of the losers for the Vikings.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: I think there's a real chance any or all three
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: of these will not be on the team after this season.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: And I think you could trick somebody into trading for
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: at Ingram. Again, it wouldn't be a first round pick.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: You'd be getting a maybe a conditional sixth or seventh
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: for ed Ingram and maybe even Caleb Evans as well.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Both of those have shown a player two worth of
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: flashes to be able to, you know, say it. Maybe
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: you can get something out of them. Brian OSMOA, he's
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: been just the special teams linebacker. He's had every opportunity
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: and just keeps not taking advantage of it. Yeah, I
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: don't think he'll be on a team much passes year. Yeah,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: definitely some good news with Reisner's return. Kind of on
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: the Horizon.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Obviously, TJ Howkinson coming back is great news. It seems
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: like Aaron Jones, even though he left the Jets game early,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: seems like he's gonna be all right and it seems
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: like his injury isn't going to really keep him from playing.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: We kind of expect him to be back against the Lions.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Don't expect TJ. Howkinson maybe against the Lions. Maybe another
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: week or so for TJ to come back. But all
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: in all, these guys that are banged up, and especially
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Riisner and Hawkinson that have been dealing with long term injuries,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: looks like the page is turning. They'll be coming back soon.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: That's really exciting. That's good news for this Vikings team.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we heard directly from Dustin Baker today, so via
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Dustin's source. We have a little bit of information, so
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: it's from Dustin Baker, but he has a source that
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: it sounds like Hockinson definitely will be The plan is
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: for him to be back after the Lions game, so
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: that Thursday night football game against the Rams on Week eight,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: and that also Aaron Jones currently looks good and should
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: be playing. I'm kind of concerned that Aaron Jones. They
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: might start to do that whole pitch count thing that
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: the Packers did his entire career. We might it might
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: be one of those we see Aaron Jones. Maybe he
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: starts has a driver to and then we see him
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: for four to six plays the rest of the game
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: after that, just to kind of keep him alive, keep
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: him on the field as long as possible. Hockinson it
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: sounded like, and also in an article on the Vikings
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: territory earlier today, Hockinson sounds like if he it up
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: to him, he'd be playing. He would have already started
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: playing games. But they're being pretty cautious. He's a high contract,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: high dollar contract for the team. Definitely one of the
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: better players on the team. So I understand being a
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: little cautious with Hockinson, which being five and zero, you
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: can afford to be a little cautious sometimes.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And I think they're smart to be
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: cautious with him and not rush him back into service
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: because he adds an element to the offense that the
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: offense hasn't really had. Granted, Johnny Munt, Josh Oliver they've
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: filled in pretty well. Josh Oliver's a good blocking tight end.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: They both caught touchdowns and they have both scored, which, yeah,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I was just going to say that they've both proven
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: that they can catch passes and get into the end zone.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: But DJ Hockinson is You've said this before and I'm
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: just stealing what you've said. He's a true wide receiver.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Three from the tight end position, I mean Jalen Naylor
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: who at that point right, it's gonna be Justin Jefferson,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: Jordan Addison and t J. Howkinson and Naylor might not
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: really get a whole lot of airtime when Hawkinson returns
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: because he's going to demand so much attention from the defense.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: They're gonna have to cover those three. If those three
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: are on the field, they're gonna have to figure out.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: The opposing defense is going to have to figure out
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: how to cover those three guys. And chances are one
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: of those three is gonna be open somewhere. Absolutely, and again,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: if Sam Darnold continues to just do what he's done,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: make the right reads, make the smart throw, we score
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: lots of touchdowns with those three guys on the field,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: and it's.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Awesome, And all that goes back to Koc and West
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Phillips and.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Even Josh McCown.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I feel good about the offensive play callers and the
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: coaching staff as a whole. Obviously defense as well, But
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: with all those weapons, all those shiny toys, feel like
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: koc is perfectly equipped to take advantage of all of
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: those two So should be exciting if everything's healthy and equal,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: and even this Vikings offense should really pick up and
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: continue what it's already been doing.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So let's talk specifically about the Lions game. How do
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you think the Vikings fair against the Lions. Let's maybe
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: focus offensively and defensively for a minute, and before we
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: even get into that, we can kind of just you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: say out loud the obvious thing. Aiden Hutchinson sustained a
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: really gruesome leg injury. Had surgery in Dallas after the
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: game last night. They played just yesterday as we're recording
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: on Monday night, so the Lions will be without one
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: of their best defensive players. Not that we're liking our
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: chops over that, we definitely are. We're sad for Aiden
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Hutchinson and the Lions that way. You don't like to
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: see a guy I go down, especially with an injury
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: like that. That was pretty gruesome.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awful and he knew the second it
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: happened to Again, like I said in the TikTok, I
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: don't know how you wouldn't know the second you break
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: your leg, but man, he knew it was a big
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: injury right away.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: But this Lions team is still a force to be
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: reckoned with. They put up what forty nine points on
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: the or more than that, I can't even remember.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they've been done in the last couple of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: weeks or a couple of games.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: They've put up eighty something points in the last two
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: games against the Seahawks and then the Cowboys yesterday. They're
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: forced to be reckoned with. They're a really good team.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I would say they're up there in terms of the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: best team in the NFC North, And I mean I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: would put them up there with the Vikings. I think
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: the Vikings are slightly better, but I think the Lions
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: are right there. This is going to be one of
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the best games in the NFL in Week seven. Oh yeah,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I think I saw some stuff that on Twitter. People
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: were like, can we flex the Vikings Lions game to
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: the Sunday night or the Monday night window? Is it
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: too late for that? And yes, I think it is
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: too late for that. I don't know that they'll flex
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: this game. I think it'll remain a needon game on Sunday.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: But also they don't flex until Yeah, they don't flex
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: until way later. But I mean, this is certainly a
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: deserving candidate of a game to be flexed if they
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: were willing to do something like that. Because this is
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: this is kind of a historic matchup. I don't think
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: the Vikings or the Lions have been this good and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: facing each other in like our lifetime. Almost it's kind
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: of crazy how good both of these teams are. It's
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: usually one or the other, either the Lions are good
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: or the Vikings are good. Typically it's been the Viking.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: It's usually the Lions our entire life. The Lions have
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: not been great. Yes, even lines we're we're not talking
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: crap Lions fans have, They've got to know, like the
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: last thirty something years, they haven't been great. So it's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: typically just been a doormat. Sure in our lifetime, have
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: the Lions won their fair share.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Of games against the Vikings. I don't know the.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Exactly slashes, but I'm sure they've beaten the Vikings in
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: Minnesota and Detroit and some you know, a handful of
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: times in the last thirty years they play each other
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: twice a year. But yeah, it's usually been the Lions
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: finishing fourth or third in the NFC North outside of
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: a few random years. But yeah, this will this will
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: be a good game. It should be the quote America's
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: game of the week, although marketing wise, they usually reserve
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: that title for one of the three o'clock games. It's
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: funny because and the Cowboys. So this is the game, Yeah, exactly,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: this is the one game this season probably I'm going
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: to get to go to. Yeah, and we I'm taking
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: you know, my wife, three kids bought five tickets to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: this game Nosebleed. We're sitting way high. But at the time,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: face value of the tickets were a hundred bucks and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: we bought this, you know, before the season started. I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: just know my kids are getting older, they want to
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: go to a game, and I want to share that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: with them. But the last week or so, I've been
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: getting notifications from Ticketmaster I.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Bet the retail values emails.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I kind of looked at it a couple
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, like man, well, I mostly looked at
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: ticket prices to see like Okay, maybe maybe the school
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: hop could go on a trip to a late season
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: game to see you know, maybe there's a team they
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: play at the end of the year that isn't good
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: that quickly was not not going to happen.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: These these tickets are very expensive, and for good reason.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: These teams are good.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I then looked at the this coming game,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: the Lions Vikings game, and tickets are not cheap. Again,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I think Ticketmaster is very much trying to get me
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: to sell my tickets because then they get the money
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: from the fees and stuff too. But I could probably
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: I spent one hundred bucks a pop on these tickets.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I think I could easily sell them for two pop.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we are not like we're in the three hundreds,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: you know, we're we're up high.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I bet you easily could double
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: your money. Oh yeah, easily. Yeah, So that's crazy.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to I think it would have to
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: be like like a ridiculous amount of money per ticket
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: for me to consider sent is selling them. But at
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: this point, no, my kids are excited.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: I'm excited.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good game, hopefully, and hopefully it
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: won't be the Vikings first loss.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Keys to victory. What do you think while you're sitting
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: up in the bleachers and I'm not, I'm gonna have
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to sit at home and watch it on TV.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll still be texting the whole time, like we
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: always do if we're not together. For me, it's you know,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: first and foremost, the fun stat. The KOC stat is turnovers. Yep,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: what is he twenty two? And oh right now when
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: he ties or wins the turnover battle? Yep, that's step one.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: Step two is Lions offense is no joke. I mean,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: they're good, they're they're doing the right thing. They may
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: be the best offense the Vikings will face up to
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: this point. The forty nine Ers are pretty good. But
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: even in that forty nine Ers game, McCaffrey wasn't playing. Yeah,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: I think this Lion's offense will give the Vikings defense
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: the biggest fits they'll see all season. And what I
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: said earlier, the Vikings have to be done with this
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: mid game slump stuff. They have to stop trying to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: manipulate the clock or whatever they're trying to do. Whatever
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: they're doing to slow down or even disappear in the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: middle of the game. Cut it out, like just stop.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Just try to score every single play because the offense
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: is good enough. You just spent a few minutes talking
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: about all the weapons and the coaches and Sam Darnold
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: obviously is capable of doing the things. Just do the things.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Just go forward on fourth down if you need to,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: you know, just just don't ever give up, because the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Lions will never give.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell has to have that Dan Campbell mentality. Dan
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Campbell goes for it on fourth down more than any
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: other coach. Dan Campbell is the one putting backup offensive
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: linemen in reporting his eligible receivers and trying to get
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: him touchdowns when they were up by a bunch of
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: weird game too. It was weird, but it's also kind
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: of a like all right, Like I don't remember if
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I saw it on Twitter or what. I don't know.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: I see a lot of stuff throughout the day, but
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: I saw something today that was like, unless you're playing
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: pee wee football, you don't let up. Yeah, there is
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: no mercy rule. There is no like you're a professional.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: If you get beat seventy whatever to nothing, that's your
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: own fault. Like this is professional football. There's no like
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: let your foot off the gas. I think it was
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: the Falcons coach a couple of years ago that got
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: really mad when some other team tried to run up
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: the score on him and he kind of notorious like
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: kind of shoved the other coach in the post game
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: you need to do the handshake whatever, and like, no,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: this is this is the big leagues. These are big
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: boys playing for big dollars. We just watched a guy
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: got his.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Helmet remark Hamlin just completed a tackle, but his helmet
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: popped off too.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: But he looks, Okay, yeah, this is this is the NFL.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, there's there is none of that. This
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: this doesn't occur in that league. So to some extent,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I kind of admire Dan Campbell as a coach. Oh yeah,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you can hate Dan Campbell as
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: a coach and I don't know everything about him. Maybe
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: he's a terrible person. I have no reason to believe
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: he's a terrible person.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: As a coach.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I can totally believe when players want to run through
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: a brick wall for him, he's I mean, you just
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: look at his introductory press conference where he said something
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: like we're gonna bite off your kneecap and off your
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: other kneecap and take a hunk out of you. And like,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sure that plays very well in the locker room.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: And obviously the Lions had been one of the better
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: teams in the league the last well this season, last season,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: most of the last half of the season before. Yeah, absolutely,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: And so I think that's honestly one of the keys
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: to victory for me.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Is Kevin O'Connell needs to be aggressive. Yeah, Like there
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: are gonna be times where he's gonna be faced with
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: do I pun it? Do I try to kick a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: fifty eight yard field goal with will to thrill? Or
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: do I try to go for it on fourth and
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: three or whatever? Go for it? Go for it. You
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: have Aaron Jones, you have Justin Jefferson. Call up the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: right play, put the ball in your playmaker's hands and
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: see if you can convert. Right, Like, I think that's
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: going to be a key to victory. Is Kevin O'Connell
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: remaining aggressive as a play caller, not just you know,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: reverting back to this like, oh, well we didn't make
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: it happen on third and whatever. So I guess we'll
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: pun it. It's fine. Like you got to have that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell mentality again against Dan Campbell, I agree with
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: you too. Another key to victory is going to be
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: that mid game slump, Like if we're up twenty eight
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: to nothing before halftime on the Lions, pedal to the metal,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: keep it going, do everything that you've been doing. Tell
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Brian Flores defense keep doing it, and then offensively, just
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: keep calling plays. Put it in Jefferson's hands, put it
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: in Nailor's hands, put it in Addison's hands, whoever you know,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: find the open guy, get in the end zone and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: run it up. Run up the score. Let's let's see
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: a fifty two to nothing score.
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  Speaker 2: And I recognize that's not your prediction for the game,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I think back to the Magical nine season
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: when the Vikings beat the Cowboys in the divisional round,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I think, and they beat them, and I think after
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: the game there was some kind of talk about, like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: from Cowboys players or fans or whatever, saying like, yeah,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: the Vikings could have let up there, like they they
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: really just beat him down. And I think Childress said
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: something like no, like you're grown men, like stop us
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: if you're that mad about it. Stop us, you don't
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: want to score on you, Stop us the Vikings, Koc.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: The thing is, the offense and the defense are good enough,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: and frankly the kicking game too are They're good enough
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: that it's not like they're you know, the you know,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: four foot tall little Napoleon man trying to beat everybody
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: up and being you know, aggressive for no reason. Like
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: these guys are good enough. They can back it up.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Punch them in the face. Like and I respect the Lions,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: I respect Dan Campbell, I respect all of them. But
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: like you said, those professional football they're gonna punch you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: in the face, So punch them in the face. And
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: maybe this this could have a chance to like be
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: a profound game in Koc's career if he can.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: Go toe to toe with a.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: You could argue the Lions right now are a better
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: team than the Vikings. Like I'm not saying that, but
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: you could. You could definitely argue that.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Not by a record, but just by like overall package
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: do they have, how they've played, who they've played, Yeah,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: and aggressiveness.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: And I think if if Koc could take anything from
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell, like you know, learning wise, it would be
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: who effing cares, just freaking win. Just punch them in
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: the face and win the game. That's that's what Koc
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: needs to adapt and hopefully this game is something he
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: can take it away from.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: So prediction time, do you think do you think KOs
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: is aggressive enough?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: So so, I've kind of been trying to to lay
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: the foundation for this a little bit. Most of the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: time i've been talking, I've said a handful of times
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: the Vikings are not going to go undefeat it. They're
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: gonna drop one, two, three. However many games. It's not
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: gonna be a perfect season. Probably it would be amazing
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: if it could be. But I feel like if they're
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: gonna lose a game, it's gonna be against a team
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: like the Lions, who are just gonna come in and
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: punch the Vikings in the face. So officially, I think
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: I have to brace myself for this more than anything.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: I think the Lions win, and I think it's gonna
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: be something like thirty one to seventeen, and that's less
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: points than the Lions have scored in the last handful
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: of games. And I think that's a credit that thirty
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: one bikes hypothetically is a credit to Flores in the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Vikings defense. But yeah, I think we're gonna see a slump.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I think, not that I'll believe it, but I think
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: this is where people would be clamoring for Donald to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: get benched again. Not that I believe that. I'm still
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: believing in Donald, but I think this is gonna be
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: a tough week for the Vikings.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Do you credit a lot of that too? This aiden
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Hutchinson like Lions players are going to be coming out
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: like let's win this, let's win it for hutch kind
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: of thing.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, definitely, I could definitely see that. I think, well,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: and having the bye week, I guess I don't know
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: statistically the last two years how koc has been coming
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: off the by I just I'm afraid.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: I'm more afraid.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I fear that the Vikings are going to be, you know,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: still relaxing from the bye week. Maybe there's more injuries.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Than we know about.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: I think the Lions they're just they're on they're on
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: a hot streak right now, and I think the Vikings
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: are it's gonna be quick. The Vikings made you know
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: they'll be down, you know, twenty one to nothing or
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: something like that, and then fight back for those seventeen points,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: but I think ultimately, yeah, the Vikings are gonna they're
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: gonna drop this one.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Well, the Lions have won three in a row and
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: in the last two they've put up eighty nine points,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: So that's that's a fun stat I'm gonna disagree with you, though.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Please, I would welcome it. I don't want the Vikings
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: to lose.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna disagree with you. Talk me off the ledgeev
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: so statistically speaking, and let me see if I can
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: pull this up, just so I can make sure that
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: I'm accurate here for the sake of the pod. Yeah,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: the Vikings have two wins this season with a score
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: of exactly twenty three to seventeen. Okay, so I'm just
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: gonna take the odds on that and say the Vikings
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: win twenty three to seventeen. All right. I think it's
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be close.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be a blowout either way.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I think the Lions, even in my prediction, yeah,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: they're gonna get up to a big lead, but I
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: think the Vikings will fight their way back in.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I think we'll see a lot of what we saw
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: against the Jets, and right now as we're watching the
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: third quarter of the Monday night football game between the
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Jets and the Bills is dwindling down. It's tied right now,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: twenty to twenty. The Jets aren't a bad football team,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: and the Vikings were able to hold him off twenty
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: three to seventeen. Greg Zerline just nicked.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: One off the upright, already missed that one.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm gonna say twenty three to seventeen. I'm gonna
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: say the Vikings win. I'm going to say that Aiden
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Hutchinson's absence is notable, and I think the Vikings health
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: after the bye week is helpful. I think Sam Darnold
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: isn't dealing with whatever he was dealing with lower body
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: and ribs the last couple of weeks, or at least
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: it's better, you know. Yeah, Aaron Jones is back to healthy.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know that they put him on a pitch
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: count quite yet. And he runs the ball effectively, which
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: helps balance out the offense. And you are able to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: connect to Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Jalen Naylor maybe a
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: tight end, you know, because those other guys are drawing
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: so much attention, you find Johnny Munt or Josh Oliver
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: for a touchdown here or there. Whatever. I think it's close.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: I think both teams defensively play really well. I think
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: that Lion's defense is gonna come out with a chip
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: on his shoulder because they're gonna want to play for
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: a hunchins and and well.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: And they also lost a defensive tackle to a tear
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: or tech injury. What's his name, Kyle Peco, Pico Peco?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: What did you say to Peco? And that's horrible. We're
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: terrible people for saying that. But yeah, they they've got
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: two significant injuries on their defensive line and that that
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: could be huge. I hope you're right.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I hope the Lions loose. You know, I hope the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Vikings find a way to win. It's just I feel
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: like they're they're teetering a little bit. And I hate
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: the phrase, but they got to get that first win
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: or that first lost out of their system.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be really unfortunate to watch the Vikings
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: lose and sustain their first loss against the divisional rival
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: because it does mean so much. And yes, I'm not
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: discounting the Lions at all. They're a very well coached team.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, We've already said I admired Dan Campbell like man.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: If I played for him, I would probably run through
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: a brick wall for him. The man is a great
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: football coach. He knows what he's doing. He knows how
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: to get his guys playing well. And they have been
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: playing well. They've won several games in a row now,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: but they're dealing with some drama and I don't know.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are the better team, honestly at
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: this point. I think they're a more well rounded, complete team.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: We come back to it all the time. We said
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: it at the beginning, I'll say it again. The defense
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: of this Vikings team is the signature of this team.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: That defense keeps playing well, keeps this turnover margin in
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: the positive for the Vikings, more turnovers instead of less.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Vikings really struggle with the Lions
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: I would love for you to be right, because I'll
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: be there and I want it to be the best
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: and I want to sing Skull Vikings with my kids
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: a thousand times and I want it to be awesome.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I hope you're right. And if we're getting
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: ice cream up there. We're going to honey in Maki's,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: which apparently is a really fantastic Minnesota Minneapolis the ice
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: cream place we're doing it, So I hope we get
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: ice cream for a Vikings win. I'm still going to
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: stick with my prediction thirty one seventeen.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: You said twenty three seventeen Vikings, right, Vikings, Yes, yep,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: and our preseason picks.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: We still which is what determines the Purple Punishments for that.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: We both predicted a Vikings win this week, correct, So
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: if the Vikings end up losing, we'll be spinning the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: wheel Purple Punishments on episode sixty three. If they win,
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: it'll be another boring Purple Punishment segment. But I kind
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: of have an idea for that that we can talk
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: about offline here.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Well, for the next episode. At the very least, let's
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: hope I'm right. Yes, let's hope you're wrong. Sure, yeah,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: I'd love to be wrong. Let's hope the Vikings win
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: so that way we don't have to spin and we'll
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: work out the other parts of that segment of our show. Yeah,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: for sure, it's been fun so far, but oh yeah,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Well, We definitely diverge into some different directions
• 1:19:34
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• 1:19:37
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• 1:19:38
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• 1:19:41
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• 1:19:44
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• 1:24:33
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• 1:24:37
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