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Almost Famous OG: A Golden First Date with Deanna Pappas Part 1 · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: We are so excited to welcome Deanna to our podcast
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  Speaker 2: today and for this podcast, we're going to chat all
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  Speaker 2: about Charity's Men Tell all which uh Deanna and I
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  Speaker 2: were lucky enough to be there for. That was so
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  Speaker 2: much fun to see you and Doz obviously, but I
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  Speaker 2: just I love our catch up sessions.
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  Speaker 3: So I feel like it's always like a hard yes
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  Speaker 3: anytime they asked me to come and record, because I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I get to see my best friends, right right.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just happy that they brought that they
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  Speaker 4: brought back. I mean because Christa and I have talked
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  Speaker 4: about this a bunch. She's always like, they never asked
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  Speaker 4: me to come back. It's like, you know, so I'm
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  Speaker 4: just really glad they brought you both back with Doz.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I know we were having this conversation because you know
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  Speaker 2: we obviously, Bob, you know this.
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  Speaker 3: We get there all day, we hang out, we have drinks,
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  Speaker 3: we get ready whatever. And they were as soon as
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  Speaker 3: I walked in, I was the first one there and
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  Speaker 3: they were.
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  Speaker 2: Like, okay, this is your room. This one's Trista's room.
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  Speaker 2: And then this one's Desiree's room. I'm like, we're all
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  Speaker 2: going to be in the same room all day may right,
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  Speaker 2: that is.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly what we did.
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  Speaker 3: We hung out all day long because we haven't seen
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  Speaker 3: each other and sometimes so we all literally sat in
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  Speaker 3: my green room and chatted and got ready together all
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  Speaker 3: day long. So it was like, I mean, for me,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I would have done it for free.
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  Speaker 3: But you know she will tell them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so much fun. So welcome to the podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so excited to have you see you, at least see
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  Speaker 2: you on the screen. And it was so much fun.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I just adore Charity, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's super sweet, really seems really sweet.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't watched I'm not the best Bachelorette fan in
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  Speaker 3: the world because I do not spend my Monday nights
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  Speaker 3: watching the show and I am not in several seasons,
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  Speaker 3: so I was definitely playing catch up. But I just
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  Speaker 3: thought she's just so sweet, and I would say after
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  Speaker 3: meeting her in person, she is a true testament to
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  Speaker 3: like who she was on television versus the same person
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  Speaker 3: in person.
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  Speaker 2: She's just so tiny, so tiny, she is tiny. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like everyone always says that because they see you
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  Speaker 2: on television, and especially for me, they're always like, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: I just thought you were so much taller.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, every time I showed my friends pictures of me
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  Speaker 3: and you, they're like, oh my gosh, Trista is so
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  Speaker 3: much shorter than you.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, she's tiny too.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, it was like, as Bob said, I have
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  Speaker 2: mentioned it so many times on the podcast that I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: did I do something wrong to somebody like executive producer, whatever?
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  Speaker 2: And because I felt like they never asked me back,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, usually it's like to give advice and listen,
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  Speaker 2: I get it. The world has changed a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: since Ryan and I got engaged and married and we
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  Speaker 2: were on the show. But I'm like, you know, there
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  Speaker 2: we have a little bit of knowledge I would hold
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  Speaker 2: after almost twenty years of marriage. So I was really
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  Speaker 2: thankful that they asked me back, and just so thankful
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  Speaker 2: that they had you and does too, because they do
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  Speaker 2: feel like, you know, on our little bachelorette group chat
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  Speaker 2: text session sessions, it's like the three of us are
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  Speaker 2: kind of the the ogs that are part of that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess who was before you? Obviously Meredith
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  Speaker 2: and Jen. So that billion you were the first. No,
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  Speaker 2: Gillian was after me. I wasn't so you were the first,
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  Speaker 2: and that it was, so it is you and then me.
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  Speaker 2: So where they are legit the old gals, like the
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  Speaker 2: old gus, original guys.
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  Speaker 3: We are before they started forking out a lot of
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  Speaker 3: money to do the show and going to these exceptional
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  Speaker 3: like cows.
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  Speaker 1: Like we went to Cabo y'all.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, that would have been exotic for me.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I always say, like we got on my
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  Speaker 4: season of the Bachelor, we were at Snake River, oh Wyoming.
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  Speaker 4: We went to Anchorage, Alaska, and then we did get
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  Speaker 4: to go to Belize. But again, but all those trips
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  Speaker 4: were like three days, you know, three.
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  Speaker 3: Days a lot too, though, because the second I start
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  Speaker 3: complaining about not going anywhere fun, She's like, girl, I
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  Speaker 3: was in a hot tub in Seattle, and I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you got you got me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I was on a hot tub at the base
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  Speaker 4: of a hill in Anchorage, Alaska with no heat.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that sounds like worse.
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  Speaker 4: Oh really, no bubbles but no heat, Like it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: even a real hot tub. They fancied it out of
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  Speaker 4: like a couple of inner tubes. I swear to.
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  Speaker 3: Say this all the time because you guys know this.
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  Speaker 3: On the show, a lot of people are always like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, tell me how this person is, tell
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  Speaker 3: me how trist it is.
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blahlah blah.
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  Speaker 3: And I always remember when I was the bachelorette, I
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  Speaker 3: had never seen the show before, and so I of
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  Speaker 3: course like asked about prior people. And again, because I
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  Speaker 3: was season four, there were only a handful of people
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  Speaker 3: before me.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 3: There was this one guy who was like the myth
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  Speaker 3: and the legend, because everyone had a story about this one.
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  Speaker 2: Guy, about how funny he was, about.
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  Speaker 3: How outgoing he was, and also about how they used
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  Speaker 3: to find him in women's bed in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: the night and they were like, we had to keep.
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  Speaker 2: Him on a tight lea. And I was like, this man,
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  Speaker 2: this man, how did he.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why Grandma was doing that. Oh I
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  Speaker 4: thought you made Graham bun Oh.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, he's a solid dude.
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  Speaker 2: No, Bob, we're referring to you in the metaphorical sense
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  Speaker 2: that you you've got a pretty good, uh pretty good
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  Speaker 2: uh story.
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  Speaker 5: I don't I don't know if that's entirely true.
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  Speaker 4: I think some of those details have gotten way better
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  Speaker 4: with time, because I sure don't remember that stuff. I
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  Speaker 4: don't remember getting a chance to see anybody throughout the
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  Speaker 4: course of the season except the shell.
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  Speaker 2: So I did kissing. He was the kissing bandit.
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  Speaker 5: I was the kissing bandit.
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  Speaker 4: But I do think some of that stuff has become
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  Speaker 4: like folklore. Like I get asked about it sometimes and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, we're that old, We're that old that we true,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 5: I asked about it.
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  Speaker 1: Really funny you want to talk about folklore.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you guys also understand this because you're well married.
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  Speaker 3: I'm no longer married. But children, you're doing the whole
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  Speaker 3: parenting thing whatever. And Trista, I about died the other
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  Speaker 3: day because I went to this fool party after school
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  Speaker 3: with a bunch of moms from my kids elementary school.
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  Speaker 3: Austin is in second grade and Addison is in fourth grade.
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  Speaker 3: And so I am at this girl's house with a
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  Speaker 3: couple of the other mom friends. We're all doing our
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  Speaker 3: mom thing, you know, just being moms and stuff, and
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  Speaker 3: none of them know who I am, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Like I live just on the outside of
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  Speaker 3: Los Angeles, and I feel like I live a pretty
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  Speaker 3: like under the radar life. So I'm in full on
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  Speaker 3: conversation with these women and in my normal pat no makeup,
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  Speaker 3: they have no clue who I am. Right, So I'm
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  Speaker 3: starting to get to know some of the other's moms.
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  Speaker 3: The other moms sitting there, and this one lady's like, oh, so,
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  Speaker 3: what did you do before you were a flight attendant?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, well, it's always weird to
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  Speaker 2: say what I did. I totally agree. You don't want
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  Speaker 2: to sound like you're bragging, but you also know they
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  Speaker 2: might know the show you know. So I'm all, well,
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  Speaker 2: I had a small stint on reality TV. And the
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  Speaker 2: girl's like, oh, my gosh, no way, I worked in
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  Speaker 2: production in reality TV. And I was like, oh, no joke,
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  Speaker 2: because yeah, I worked on the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, how do we not know each other?
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  Speaker 3: And she was like, yeah, I only worked on one season.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, which season? And she goes Brad
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  Speaker 3: Womac's first season and I was like, oh, you literally
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  Speaker 3: do not recognize me and she was like, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: I don't. And I was like, she was like, did
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  Speaker 3: you go home on like night one and I was like, girl,
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  Speaker 3: I was the final one and she was like, show up?
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  Speaker 1: So that is that is so crazy?
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: So I literally she's like Google a photo and I
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  Speaker 3: pull up the one photo and it's the very last
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  Speaker 3: screenshot from the final day where I'm standing on the
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  Speaker 3: podium and I got dragoned here coming down my face,
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  Speaker 3: Brad wal Mac is rejecting me in front of America.
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  Speaker 2: And she was like, oh, I was there. I thought
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  Speaker 2: that was so devastating. And I was like, because it
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  Speaker 2: was of trauma and abandonment, is that.
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  Speaker 4: Why it shows you how much production truly cares about us, right,
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  Speaker 4: like you're in the throes of all of this.
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  Speaker 1: And she's like, no, you weren't there.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't recognize you. She's the nicest lady, she was
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  Speaker 3: super nice. We're friends now. She actually lives in a neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: But she was like, you also had to write all
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  Speaker 2: of the storylines for every day. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: how do you not remember me? How you not know
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  Speaker 2: who I am?
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  Speaker 3: She was like, that's great photo of you somewhere on
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  Speaker 3: my phone from fifteen years ago, and I was like
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  Speaker 3: probably probably.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, okay, so let's talk about mentell All. We were there,
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  Speaker 2: but I have to say we were having so much fun,
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  Speaker 2: like backstage, behind the scenes, getting ready, just catching up
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  Speaker 2: and chatting and actually kind of getting filled in on
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  Speaker 2: what we hadn't seen, because of course we're filming something
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  Speaker 2: that would air later, and so we hadn't seen the
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  Speaker 2: shows that had well, at least I hadn't because you
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  Speaker 2: were watching, but.
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  Speaker 1: I know, so we were.
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  Speaker 2: We were backstage just having fun with Batman and some
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  Speaker 2: of the producers, and so we didn't see anything. But
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  Speaker 2: you've watched since, right, d well.
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  Speaker 3: I in my defense, I did do a crash course
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  Speaker 3: while I was getting ready to leave that day. I
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  Speaker 3: kind of zipped through a few episodes and try to
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  Speaker 3: hit some of the hot points so I could.
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  Speaker 2: At least, But have you seen the mentel All. I
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  Speaker 2: did the same thing today and fast forwarded through some
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  Speaker 2: of the pieces. But in my defense, I was also like,
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  Speaker 2: which ones are hot, which ones are going to be
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  Speaker 2: there to, which ones.
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  Speaker 1: Are going to go on?
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  Speaker 3: How many roses will I receive tonight? You know what,
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  Speaker 3: how this gonna work out for me totally?
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  Speaker 2: So I just wanted to make sure because I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure Bob has not watched, So I'm just laying the groundwork.
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  Speaker 2: I've watched mentel all. A couple of the things that
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  Speaker 2: stood out were Xavier. So did you watch the Exavier part?
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  Speaker 1: Remind me who Xavier is.
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  Speaker 2: Xavier is the one who said he had been unfaced
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  Speaker 2: ball in Fiji.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, See, we have to figure out.
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  Speaker 3: I'm one of those people that keep people in my
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: phone by like you know, like airport John, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean. So we have to kind of describe
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: so like erring guy, I don't know his name, but
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  Speaker 3: I know he was Braden Brady, and there was the
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  Speaker 3: haughty firefighter and I only know him as the firefighter Darren.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan Suter. This is this is how we have
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  Speaker 1: to work.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Xavier, I did watch, I did watch his bit. Yeah, okay, good.
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  Speaker 2: So it was just frustrating to me that Xavier told
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  Speaker 2: her about his infidelity in Fiji during the overnights and
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  Speaker 2: he hadn't told her beforehand. And I'm like that totally
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  Speaker 2: took away time from anybody else getting time with her
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  Speaker 2: in Fiji. Like she completely could have asked another guy
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  Speaker 2: to come with her to Fiji, knowing that it would
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  Speaker 2: definitely not have worked out. With Xavier because is like
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  Speaker 2: her deal breaker, and I'm glad that she pointed that out.
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  Speaker 2: She kind of put him in his place, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: so glad she did. Like we were saying, especially you
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  Speaker 2: were saying, you know you're strong, you are totally showing
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  Speaker 2: that you're independent, you're a strong woman, and you stand
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  Speaker 2: up for what you believe in. And I felt like
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  Speaker 2: she totally did that. Like I was so proud of
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  Speaker 2: her for saying, why didn't you say this earlier? Like
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  Speaker 2: why did you waste my time? And I get it
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  Speaker 2: that people make mistakes and he realizes that now he
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  Speaker 2: actually went to therapy, he said, and is starting to
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  Speaker 2: do the work that I feel like he should have
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  Speaker 2: done after the infidelity before he came on the show.
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  Speaker 2: But whatever, hindsight's twenty twenty. So I mean, people make mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: understand that, But when you're in this arena and you
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: have all these other guys, like, you make mistakes. But
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  Speaker 2: he didn't do anything to improve himself after he after
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  Speaker 2: he did that, and.
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  Speaker 3: I was just like, I want my devil's advocate. And
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  Speaker 3: it'll be interesting hearing Bob's mail perspective on this too,
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  Speaker 3: so we can all sympathize with the fact that he's young.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Right, we've all been there, we've all seen it,
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  Speaker 3: we've all done it. The other piece that we can
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  Speaker 3: And again, I'm all for Charity and the way she's
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  Speaker 3: handled everything, and I'm all for everything that she has
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  Speaker 3: to do with the show.
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  Speaker 1: And about her.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I was twenty four when I went on The Bachelor. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: twenty four is young. And even at twenty four, I
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  Speaker 3: had the wherewithal to know that you don't go on
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  Speaker 3: a date and air all of your dirty laundry and
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  Speaker 3: your baggage right off the bat, because anyone get scared
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  Speaker 3: away from that, right, No, I get that. Then you
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  Speaker 3: add the concept of being on a television show, so
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  Speaker 3: then he has to vocalize that, not just in front
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  Speaker 3: of the crew, the other guys then is vocalizing that
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  Speaker 3: for the rest of America to watch. The other piece
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  Speaker 3: is and I think that some that we can all
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  Speaker 3: find some Grayson, he likely spent two hours with her, y'all,
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  Speaker 3: from that point to the point he got to Fiji.
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  Speaker 2: It's not no, he had well, he had a one
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  Speaker 2: on one date. So that's my problem is that those
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  Speaker 2: dates Trista, you know those dates like you might have.
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  Speaker 2: He had way more time than that. He had way more.
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  Speaker 3: Hours on end with her. So there also was a
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  Speaker 3: part of him too that like, he might not have
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  Speaker 3: known where the relationship was heading. So why would he
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  Speaker 3: be like, Hey, I'm a big old fat cheater and
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  Speaker 3: I have a hard time.
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  Speaker 1: Faithful, Like I don't. I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: That. I think it's all in the delivery. And he
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  Speaker 2: didn't deliver any of it, like I feel like he
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  Speaker 2: could have very well, said listen. And they had talked
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  Speaker 2: about infidelity before. It was not the first time they
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  Speaker 2: had talked about it, so there was an end to
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  Speaker 2: the conversation prior. So you hadn't watched the one on
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  Speaker 2: one that they had been on, and it was it
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  Speaker 2: was long. They had the entire day together in Fiji,
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  Speaker 2: even even before that, and and going into that date
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  Speaker 2: in Fiji, the nighttime date, he knew that infidelity was
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  Speaker 2: a problem for her and so it's all about your delivery,
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  Speaker 2: like you can say so in Fiji. Did you see
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  Speaker 2: the way that he delivered it too? I did so
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  Speaker 2: essentially he was like, so I cheated multiple times on
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  Speaker 2: this on my girlfriend in the span of five hours
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  Speaker 2: and I didn't do anything to better myself afterwards five days.
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  Speaker 2: Over five days, he cheated multiple times and then he
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  Speaker 2: was like, I didn't do anything to better myself after
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  Speaker 2: it happened. I know it's going to be hard for
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  Speaker 2: me to not do that again. He didn't say I
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  Speaker 2: will not do that again if we are together. In
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  Speaker 2: the end, he was like, it's going to be really
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  Speaker 2: hard for me. And then she was like, well, here's
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: the card, and he was like, well, I need to
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: be in the fantasy suite, and essentially she took that
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  Speaker 2: to mean that he wanted to have sex with her
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: just to see if they would laugh, and it ends
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  Speaker 2: up in the mentell all he says like, I didn't
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  Speaker 2: he clarified it, and he was like, it wasn't about
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  Speaker 2: sex to me, it was just having time with you
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  Speaker 2: alone without the cameras. But he didn't specify that, and
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  Speaker 2: so she was like, I'm sorry, but you want me
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  Speaker 2: to have sex with you when you just told me
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  Speaker 2: that you might cheat on me, Like, why would I
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  Speaker 2: do that?
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  Speaker 3: I think he did say that if he chose to
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: be with someone to marry someone, he would have the
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  Speaker 3: intentions to be faithful, so I want to just comment
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  Speaker 3: on something else that you said about him not choosing
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  Speaker 3: therapy before he came on the show, and I would
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  Speaker 3: say that that's definitely something that you have to be
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  Speaker 3: completely emotionally aware about and speak emotional stability and maturity
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: and all of those things. You have to want those
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: things before you seek out therapy. But I just think
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: across the board, the show in general should have people
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: going into therapy beforehand and coming out of the also
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: a piece of that totally, Like the production company is
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: to blame here, you know what I mean, Like, why
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: not make sure that they're all, you know, mentally stable
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: before they come on the show, and then let's make
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: sure they're also often too the free world.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't mentally stable. It wasn't about being mentally stable.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: It was about how do I be in a committed
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: relationship and not be unfaithful. That's what she had a
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: problem with. It wasn't about like having a problem like
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: with his own mental health. It was about going to
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: therapy and working on commitment. The level of commitment. We're
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: all adults here, like, we're all over forty, Like I
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: feel like we have the wherewithal to understand that. Yeah,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: but I'm putting myself in Charity's position, and I'm like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: if I'm Charity, then hell yes, I'm gonna be like,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: what did you do? Like, you're on a show to
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: get married in the end. We're not on a show
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: to date each other at the end. We're on a
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: show to possibly get engaged. Like that's the end, and
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: there are multiple other people. So if you had this
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: issue in a previous relationship and it broke it up,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and you know that this is a really important thing
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: to me to be faithful in a relationship, obviously he
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: didn't know that going onto the show. But if he's
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: going on to it thinking he's going to be serious
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: and possibly get engaged to this woman, it's just like fine,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: if you didn't do anything, then then maybe don't Maybe
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: don't like admit to that or something, or talk about
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: it when you're off camera or something. But I just
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: feel like he just he knew about this infidelity coming
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: into the show. He found out earlier that it was
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: a deal breaker for her or would be a really
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: really hard thing to get passed for her, and then
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: instead of like fessing up to it and being like,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I am so sorry that I did this to this woman.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I'm so remorseful. I want to be better. I want
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: to be committed to you. I am falling in love
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: with you. He was like, no, we're I really think
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: that we need time in the fantasy suite. And he
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: didn't justify that. He just wanted time alone with her,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: not to just have sex, do you know what I mean?
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Like it was all about the delivery.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: I've got something to say. Do you want to get
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: a guy?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yes? Please?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: So I kind of.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Agree with both of you actually in that I think
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: what Dianna's trying to say, which which I actually do
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: agree with. This part of it is a lot of
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: people don't necessarily go on to the show realizing that
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: they're going to fall in love, right, so I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: they go on to the show and you never know
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: the timeline, by the way, unless that was mentioned, but
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I don't think you ever know the timeline of when
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: this happened in his relationship and when someone or he
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: submitted himself to be on the show and next thing
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean I turned around.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: Time could have been a month.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, so he could have had this relationship split
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: up and then a month later all of a sudden boom,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: he's on national TV, so maybe he didn't have a
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: chance to kind of dig into himself a little bit
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: and see where he was at with that whole thing.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: But I was going to say, too, Trisy, You're right.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: She did bring up that, you know, being faithful in
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: relationship was of paramount importance to her. And so he
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: did have a couple opportunities, especially that date in Fiji
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: when they hung out all day, that he could have
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: brought it up right.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: He could have been like, look, I.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Got a kind of a complicated dating history or a
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: complicated relationship past. This happened in my relationship, and I
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: did this, and I did that. You know that that
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: would have been a much more opportunity time, because you're right,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: he would have probably not ended up on the Fantasy suite.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: And you know, but.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: But then again another thing to think about too, And
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can I'd love to take this out
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: of the show, but it just exists.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: It's a competition show.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: And I know that I know that it's not, you know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: when we think about it, the grand scheme of things,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: but it is.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: You hear your perspective coming from a male's perspective, because
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: what I was the Christ was as a woman, Right,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I had the same train of thought when I went
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: into the show.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: It was not about a competition. To me, it wasn't
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: about any other things other than the fact.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: That, like, maybe I will truly meet the person that
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I'm meant to be with, get engaged and.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Live happily in for after.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: But I would in the defense, and maybe Bob can
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: speak to this, I wouldn't say that most men go
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: on to the show thinking that. Like, I wouldn't say
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: that most men are like, oh my god, see mom,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I'm about to meet my bride. Like, I don't think
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: that twenty something.
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: You know, it's funny that you say that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Twenty years ago it was different. I mean the show
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: is different. The reaction of the public to the show
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: is different. I mean, you hear about some of these guys,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: which we'll get to you later down the road, you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: talking about endorsements before they're every event on the show. Right,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: it's like in their Instagram set for their tooth whitening
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: kits or whenever they're gonna be puddling everyone.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: So I mean, you know you hear about that. But yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: like when I remember when I went on the show,
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: I was open to falling in love.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: I was open to, you know, meeting Tristan, and thankfully
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: I did, you know, and we fell in love.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: And we're selling me.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: That's how the two of you know each other.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, But.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: It's so funny because when I went on a show,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: it was like, you know, we went on.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: With the mindset of you know, I was like, well,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I think she's really hot. I can't wait to meet her,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: you know that, I mean her, I'm like, she's super cool.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: I really like her.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: But it was like our vibe and I trust to
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Will attest to this because we talked.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: About it for the last hundred years now.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Our vibe was always just like really great friendship vibe.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Like it wasn't a romantic vibe. And as much as
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I care about her and did that and do now,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I love her, but we didn't
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: fall in love in that relationship way.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: And I think that you go on a show like that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: I didn't go on there with the attention of not
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: falling in love, but I didn't go on there with
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: the like I wasn't sitting at home just pining for
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: the weeks leading up to it, going oh my god,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: I can't wait to get the show and fall in month.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: You know, I was more like, I don't know what
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: the hell's going on.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: I'm going to show up and have a good time
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: and hopefully this girl's gonna be awesome, and thankfully she
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: was and has become a dear friend of me. So
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I think that the guys nowadays, and I can only
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: judge this from the ones that I've met, I think
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: they might go on there with a different mindset than
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: even what we had back then, which was a lot more.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: You have to say, I totally agree with that. But
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: at the same time, he was going to tell he
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: told her when she walked her to the car, when
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: when she walked him to the car, that he was
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: in love with her. So he was already there, like yeah,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I totally get that, Like, wait, you know, you're you're
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: trying to gauge whether or not you even like this person,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: if you're if you want to stick around, if you
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: think it's worth it to bring this up in front
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of America, in front of the crew, like admit your deepest,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: darkest secrets. Totally understand that. But he was there, he
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: was at the point where he was in love with her,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: and I just feel like it's a big conversation. What
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: really was I don't know, but he said it when
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: he when he went to the car. I don't know
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: if he was or not. I mean, obviously he was
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: heartbroken on the mentel all like he was. He was
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: visibly upset.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I pride myself on my brutal honesty, and it doesn't
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: always rub people the right way, but I like for
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: there to be no reading in between the lines. Right
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: when I left, when I was on The Bachelor, I
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: was so confused about what Brad had done to me
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: because he wasn't honest about the situation. So right on
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: my brutal honesty. So would I have handled it the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: same way. Absolutely not. I just I'm just trying to
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: play devil's advocate and give him a little bit of
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: grace because we we the three of us here, have
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: been in that situation.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: We know how hard it be, we know what a
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: mind fuck it can totally be.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: There.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: No, I agree, I love as being like the maternal
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: person for this show. I obviously I don't. I'm not
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: beating him down saying you are so wrong and you like,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like he was really remorseful at the Mental Hall.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: He apologized. It seemed very heartfelt. You could tell that
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: he was so somber that entire time. Even when we
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: were on stage, he was just kind of like, take
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: me out of here. He was not laughing and joking around. No,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: not at all vibe for him.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: And I would imagine to like sitting on that stage
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and sitting with Charity and having to explain where he
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: was at, there was probably a deep sense of regret, y'all, Like, right,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: you probably realized And again, at the end of the day,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: is this going to be the end of his story?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: No, He's likely going to do a lot. Oh no,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: of course not.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: He's going to make someone a very wonderful husband and
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: fall in love and be really happy, we hope. And
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: I think he learned his lesson through this show. I
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: think he realized because he did say, you know, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: got a therapist, I want to I want to talk
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: through this with someone. And I think he actually matured
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a lot because of the show. I'm not beating him down.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: We're just discussing the like what I feel like should
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: have happened earlier, because it I do I really wish
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: that more people and hopefully in the future they will
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: will take it seriously like this. Yes, of course people
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: are going to come on and they're gonna want be influencers,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: and they're going to want to be you know, gaining
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of followers, whatever. But I just feel
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: like it is a show. Ultimately. I still believe this
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: about love and finding the person that you're meant to
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: be with it. Maybe there's a few that are in
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: there because they want to get famous, whatever that's going
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to happen because that's the day and age that we
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: live in. But I really would love for people, especially
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: for the people who do go farther like, just to
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: be honest, like you're saying, like, just be honest with
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: who you are, and if you're falling for this person,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: then tell them the things that you feel like are
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: going to be important in a relationship. And if they
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: have deal breakers, bring them up, like.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Have that get the testament as to who you are
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: as a person, like I would do.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I had a guy on my season who waited.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Until after the show was done to let me know
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: that he had a girlfriend up until hometown.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Dates, So like, yeah, I'm all with you, like, let's
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: all be.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Honest, let's all just like put it out home, stay
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: role all be hoes and decent human beings.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, what everybody thinks
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: like us well, and and like you said, like show
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: him some grace. He's young, But like I said, I
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: think that he learned his lesson and I know he will,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: he will find someone, he'll be happy. I loved him
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: throughout the show. I just I totally agree.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: The people can make good people can make that decisions.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Also, maybe there are a few narcissest who walk into
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: a situation like that and they're like, oh, I can't.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Wait to hurt this person.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: But he doesn't mean that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine he spent those five days
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: being like, well, I can't wait to screw her over.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: You know, he probably just made some bad choices. And
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, the truth of the
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: matter is the relationship that he was in was probably
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: done anyway, if he was that tempted to be with
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: another human being anyway.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I'm okay, So let's talk about our experience. So we
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: went out on the on stage. Is so much fun.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I loved being able to share kind of our our
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: wisdom and even see the packages that they put up
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: for each of our families. It's always so fun to
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: see our kids kids.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: What they didn't even show my kids.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: They showed you what they did and desires, but they
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: didn't show No, they showed old clips of when I
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: was the bachelorette.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: So when we were on stage, they showed my pictures,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Oh, yes, episode air, they
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: actually didn't show me with my kids. They showed old
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: clips of when I was a bachelorette and talking about
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: how it didn't work out for me.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And I was like, what is happening right now?
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: Because oh they did.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: They didn't show my ladies that what was happening right now.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: They did the same thing for me. They showed the
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: clip of the wedding and then they showed just a
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: picture of our family. Same thing.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, they didn't show any pictures of my family.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: Oh they didn't.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Oh I thought they did.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: They did on stage, Trista, That's what I'm saying. They
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: did on stage, but it did not make the cut
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: for the show.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: As does now I get to me as a failed
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: back threat? Oh it does take me a while old
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: gal right here anyway. So so after the show, you know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: after we're on stage, we come out and Gary comes on,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: who we both freaking love. I love, I hate this, Bob,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: let me just show you this right here. I was
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: willing to talk to new picture the attention that night.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: I was like, all fine, specimen of men, look at
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: all these men, and then Gary here comes Garrety Trista
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: got the worst photo of me and Gary.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, you look at what are you talking about?
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: You looked cute and I was about how you look.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: It was totally a moment captured that he was laughing
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: hysterically because of something that you said. You were cracking
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: him up.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Yes you are, I know.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: So No, I thought.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: It was that looks like.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: He's pretty good looking.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: He's pretty good looking, looks like he has spent some
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: of his off time in Florida, so like his coloring
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: was off and he really blonde. But he was, like
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: he Bob, honestly interested will tell you the same thing.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: He was the nicest guy, like he was so joyful
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: to be there. And if you see the mental episode
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: his segment, he totally is.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Just like a nice guy, like he's.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Out there jollie gee.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Guys like.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: The cute and I waked. I'm blatantly flirting with him
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: in front of everybody.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And I was.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, Gary, let me know what time to be there.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I'll see you soon. I walked into the here and
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: makeup room and he was sitting there and I hadn't
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: met him yet, and I was like, Hi, Gary, how
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: are you? And I'm like, so, how is social media going?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Because as he's talked about like he doesn't know anything
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: about social media and he like totally over his head.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And I was like, how's it going? And he was like, oh,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it's fine. Are you from the social media crew? But
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: he had no clue who any of us were. He
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: literally was like, who are you? This is my show?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: So I was like, no, I I was actually the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: first bachelorette. And he jumped out of the hair and
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: makeup chair and came and gave me, gave me the
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: biggest hug. He was so freaking.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Jerry.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: It is Gary. It's spelled Jerry, but it's pronounced Gary.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, he looks good.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: He does.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: And you know what seventy one or something seventy one?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: He like my word for him is wholesome. After meeting him,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: and he's just so grounded, and I ended up going
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and doing a date with him. Oh I just got back.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm so tan. I went in spray tand
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: before I went, so, I flew to la on Friday
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and flew back on Sunday and I was there for
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: a pickleball date with.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: All the ladies.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: It was so much fun and I got to like
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: have some time with him and just talk to him
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: about how he's feeling and everything. But I just my
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: word for him is wholesome. He is the grandpa that
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: everyone is going to be rooting for. And I have
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: said this, I'm sure I've said this on the show Bob,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: on this podcast. I have always felt like they need
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to pluck someone out of obscurity that we all can
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: fall in love with communally together as Bachelor Nation. And
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: thank goodness they're doing it with him because his story
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: is just so heartbreaking and I mean how he lost
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: his wife. And I just hope that everyone rallies around
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: this this season because he is so wholesome and so
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: everyone's deserving, but he's so deserving of a second chance
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: at love and just to share by somebody.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: He's like West guy, Like he's like super nice and
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: you could tell he just sits around on eats cheese
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: curds and like lives.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: As best.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. He's all around like great
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: nice guy and that came off.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: That came off like the second you spoke to him,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: like or was in his presence, like you could just
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: tell he was just as happy as can be, you
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. I see him people sit on
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: two different fences. Because I've been asking around if people
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: planning on watching the Golden Bachelor, you know what I mean,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: because I'm super stoked for it. I would really love
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: to see the show go back to some of those
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: early days of the goodness genuine conversation where people were
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: for a social media following or or to not have
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: a real job in.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Life, you know what I mean.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: So it's funny because I kind of got like a
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: fifty to fifty opinion from people, Like some people were
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: like no, heck no, I'm not really where's the drama
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: going to be? And also these how old are these
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: women going to be?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: And then the other portion, which were a lot of
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: people who have watched the show from you know, day one,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: from Trista's days, or I don't remember the other guy's name,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: but that we're saying like they were super excited to
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: see the show go back to its roots. That has
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: so off course, literally, you know, since Chris Harrison left
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: and some of these other I'm telling you, the older
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I get, the younger they get, and it's becoming a
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: larger gap between me and any of these people on
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: But a lot of people were.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Excited to see the show go back to hopefully some
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: of the basics, which was that there wasn't drama, but
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: just to see more wholesome content, more genuine connections between
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: people and not be so centered around like who's there
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: for the right reasons?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Right to sell T shirts? You know, just rap, you
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I've never seen the shows on it, so like it's
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: not like I'm moved home and like paparazzi were hanging
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: out in my bushes and noon and Georgia, like I
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: just are legit sometimes a little stupid saying I went
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: on the show for the right reasons, Like as stupid
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: as it sounds, a legit went on for the opportunity
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: to meet someone.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think that's not stupid at all. That's what
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: the show is about, you know. So it's like I
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: think that's that's awesome. I mean, I think that takes
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: it back. And I think with Gary, I got I
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: wanted to say Jerry so bad, But with Gary, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: think it is going to be one of those things.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: And especially now with the feedback you guys are getting,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: you know, so, so we're all excited. We figure all
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: excite from the Golden bashlud. But I have to hear
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: because I wasn't there with you all about Braiden.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: I got to hear about Braiden. Yeah, that's a feather
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: aaring guy. Like, what was your impression? Was he putting
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: on his best front with you guys? Was he flirting
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: with you?
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Like I could just see that dude like you guys walking,
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: He's like hello eighties, Like I get you to see
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: it in my.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Life because Trista and Desiree were like, all these boys
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: are flirting with you and I was like, I think
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I'm must be blind as a bat because I'm not
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: seeing it, Like I'm not sitting there with my cocktail
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: and my beef chest suit, and I'm all like, hello, handsome,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Hello handsome, do you need to know how to spell
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: my first and last name? You're cute, You're nice and tall?
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Like I literally was like just eating it up. But yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: he was sly learning and it was awesome. No, So
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: we were backstage just hanging out with you know, the
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: directors and producers and stuff, just kind of catching up
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: with people we haven't seen in a while. And the
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: show ends, the guys come out, and I do remember
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Brandon was the first guy that came up to us,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: And had I not ever seen him on any show,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I would say that guy is so sweet and he
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: was just very friendly and very respectful, like there was
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: there would have been no inclination about any kind of drama. None.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Right, I feel like I'm a pretty such aster.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: Tore up on the show.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: The difference being Bob is like we didn't watch the show.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: We literally were like three girls in our green room
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: just catching up about life and talking about our kids
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and sharing pictures and just you know, being the friends
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: that we are. So when we went on stage, we
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: actually did not have the opportunity on stage to interact
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: with the guys.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Whatsoever.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: They sat off to our left, and you know, because
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: we're cheated looking at Jesse, we really didn't. You don't
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: even see them there, to be honest, So it wasn't
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: until afterwards when they all came out. And because I
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: watched the episode, I have an appreciation for him because
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: I have this skill to be so very honest. And
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I actually thought, even when I watched the episode of
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: the Mental All, that he did a really good job
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: of explaining himself. Now, I think there were pieces of
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: the show where he likely got caught up. When you're
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: watching the season, he came off as a little bit
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: of a d bag, bragging about his all kinds of stuff,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: and nobody likes a guy who kisses and tells. Just
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: so we're all on the same way, yeah, no one
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: likes that. Don't brag about how far you got. Don't
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: brag about how long. No one wants to hear that. Like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: be an adult about it, be an adult, a man,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: a grown man. But I do think that when he
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: was on stage and discussing his persona and his personality
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: and who he is, I did a really good job
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: on stage of being like, hey, I didn't handle this
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the best way. But like, I am me to my core,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: and Tristan knows this because she's been walking alongside me
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: for several years now as I've gone through what has
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: been the most difficult time of my entire life. And
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: in the day, I am me to my core, and
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't apologize for that. We are meant in life
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: to have relationships, to refine us, to help us grow
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: to be better, we hope, right. But like, at the
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: end of the day, I can't apologize for being an
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: incredibly human being, right And I'm not a glass half
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: full kind of person. And it's not because I don't
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: want to beat It's because I was never given that opportunity.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: I've had a very difficult life getting to this point.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: But I am loyal and loyal to a fault to myself,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: and I am kind and I am honest, and I
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: am willing to walk through the hard shit as deep
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: as it gets to drag him. Ever, I have to
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: to get out on the other side, and I will
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: not apologize for that. So there is this huge piece
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: of my heart that appreciated that even though he really
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: was getting beat down on stage, I'm already carrying him
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: apart down to his scarf ashrings, to his personality, to
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: everything that. I thought he did a really good job
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: of standing firm and who he is, and I appreciate
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: that one hundred.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I totally agree with everything you said. I think that
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: another person could have very well, gotten really frustrated and
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: gotten mad and was towarded, you know, and said mean
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: things back to the guys. But he was so calm,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: cool and collected and not in a way that it
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: felt like it was disingenuous. It just felt like he's like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not going to be able to
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: change these guys' minds. I'm sorry for the way that
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I treated Charity. I could have handled that better, and
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: you know, we're moving on and that's that. And he
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: even apologized to Charity you know too, like they're during
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: their conversation. I thought, actually the more disrespectful one was
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: when Sean was like, can I come up there? And
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I get it. But if he had
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: something that he was like, I want to give you
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: a hug, or he didn't do anything like that, he
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: just wanted to be up there. That felt more disingenuine
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: to me. And he was further on in the show
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: that felt more disingenuine to me than some of the
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: other guys who really respectfully sat in their chairs and
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: owned up to some of their pieces on the show.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: And maybe they're disrespected how they handled certain situations that
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: felt more disingenuine to me. And I'm not saying he
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: was trying to be. It just felt that way to me.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: And I was gonna ask you about that, because you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: you need to the note of the way the.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Show went, and it's like he's got the most to say,
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: like you're not invited, Braden. It's like, but you don't
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: make the guest list, right, It's like everything I was
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: reading about it, I'm like, who is Sean?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: So I had to go back and actually figure out
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: who he was. So I was going to ask you
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: about him. So, so you guys felt like he kind
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: of just inserted himself to.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Get a streams watching the show back are interacting with him.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I think he was one of the ones that came
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: up and said hi after when you were back.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: That I was going to say was I'm a pretty
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: good judge of character, Like off the bat, I just
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: really can read people well. And Trista to your to
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: your sentiment. I think the same thing. When he walked up,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: you get a really good vibe from him. He feels
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: very genuine. He the guys were being weird, Bob, I'm
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: joking around aout how much I was sporting with them.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: But they were all.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Respectful to their elders. None of them were weird or
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: rude in any way, none of them or inappropriate. Like
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: they all you could just tell, like if they didn't
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: know who we were, they knew then, and they were
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: all very kind in the way that they addressed us,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: hugged us, said hello, that it was a pleasure to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the kids, told us we were beautiful. You know what
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: a bunch of three older women want to hear.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, he was the first
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: one out of the gate, and I just thought he
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: seems like a warm outside of this, like a really
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: warm and genuine human being.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I got a really you mean Brandon, Yeah, I agree.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And then I also I want to say, Adam, I
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: don't remember him. I don't remember him walking up to me,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I don't remember hugging him. I don't remember him to
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: anybody else. So I know you do you remember. But
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: before I get to that, I want to say, Michael,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: who's the yacht captain? He had like a gray a
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: green uh like over sports code on. He came up
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: to me and I don't know if he if he
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: came up to you too. He gave me the biggest hug,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: but it like kind of took my breath away because
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: it was so strong. I was like, I mean, I
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: have not had any like physical in a very long time.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: So I was like taking all the hugs. I'm like,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: possibly he too.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like Christa is a lot smaller than me.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: She's cropful, you know.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Like I was looking for a good bear hug to
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: just make sure I can remember what it feels like
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: a man.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: Those guys, those captains.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: So one of them came up to us and he
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: was talking to us, and it ended up being the firefighter.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I was talking to him a little bit about how
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Ryan was a firefighter, and there was one guy on
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: my seat. Who's the firefighter? Guy, Bob, you can tell
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: me did I let go the first night? Oh? Oh yeah?
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: Hang on.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: He's a guy I met in at the Dirty.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Or something, right. I was trying to remember his name.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Billy Billy Bill, Billy Billy.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Polta, so I couldn't remember his name, and I feel
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: like they might have been at the same station at
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: one point. But anyway, so we were talking about that
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: and then he went and he brought roses for each
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: of us. He was handing all of us roses. But
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: I have a feeling I think this is the one
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: that and I even I think you said it earlier,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the hottie. I only remember the hottie that's what wearing
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: all white, and he had the he had I don't
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: want to call it audacity, but he had the uh
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: guts to like, like, the three of us haven't received
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: enough roses, and.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Could you be original, but also give me your phone number.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Bobby totally went and found three red roses and started
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: handing them out to the three of us and we
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: were like, oh cute, but we've got a few things, Matt,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: and then he ran away like a scared child.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: He was like, okay, by I see you all later.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Had this original idea.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, if there's if there's any if there's any
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: guy from the mentel all that, I feel like maybe
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Gianna had a little a little uh vibe vibe wit.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: It was definitely Aaron, though I was trying to make
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: eye contact. I was trying to look in his direction.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Scared scared him, He scared. He cannot handle this forty
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: one year old grown ass woman. He's what has not happened?
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting any of them sliding into my DM.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: So I clearly made a big impression.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I want to thank you, guys. I feel like I
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: was at the episode with you. I feel like I
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: was there writing at a little bird's idea of what
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: it was like. First of all, I'm so glad they
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: brought you both back. I mean and as three of
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: my favorites of all time obviously from this show, but
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: I think in general two just three perfect personalities have
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: on that show and kind of help Charity a little bit.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: So great job, ladies.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you yeah tomorrow, Trista. But let's do it again tomorrow.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I know, right every week, because I would love just
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, but it's it's just
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: good energy. I love the energy. When I returned to
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the show, you know, it's it's just.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: I was literally pitching everything because Ryan and Trista have
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: their twenty year anniversary coming up, and I'm all to
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: like Rob Mills, I'm like, listen, can you please do
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: like a vowel renewal so that we can all get
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: together again and have so much fun.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Core memories of fun weddings.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Of people where you all just get to be together
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: and have the best time ever. So I literally was
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: like pitching Tristan Ryan's vow renewal to be taped by ABC,
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, we really just need a good excuse
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: to like get together.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: On an island, somewhere.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: On an island, please ago, We're trying to go next
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Trista some tropical island, Like, just just send me there,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: pay for my flight whatever, I'll be there. Okay, thank
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: you for being here today and recapping the men tell all,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: it was just such a pleasure to see you in
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: person obviously, always always makes me happy, and we do
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: get to have you for another episode, so I know,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: two for one part two. Thanks everybody for tuning in
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: to Almost Famous Ogs with Me, Trista.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Setter and Me, Bob Getty and today with Jan Stage
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: as well. Okay,