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A Wicked Holiday Romance · Pop Culture Junkie®

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  ♪ Entertain me, entertain me right now ♪
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  - Ho, ho, ho, and welcome to the Pop Culture
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  Junkie podcast.
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  I'm Shauna here with Olivia.
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  - And we have been busy wrapping up this year.
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  - Get it?
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  - wrapping, and presents.
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  - You sum up at that one yourself?
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  - No, it was on the script right here, right here.
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  - I mean, I, we don't have a script,
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  but I totally made that up.
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  - You can't see the mic paper.
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  - Oh, of course that.
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  - No matter what, we always have to spend time
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  with our dear listeners, no matter how busy we are.
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  - Or naughty, where this year?
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  - I know, do you think you're on the naughty list
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  or the nicest thing to--
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  - Oh, I'm definitely on the naughty list.
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  - I am too.
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  - Yeah.
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  - I'm just the naughty one girl.
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  - You're so young, girl.
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  (laughing)
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  - So what have you been up to?
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  - I, Shocker, was in San Francisco last weekend
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  on the hunt for a new place.
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  So it was raining for the first time there ever,
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  since I've been there.
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  - Never.
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  - Not ever, but since I've been there.
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  - What's this?
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  - Since I've been there.
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  (laughing)
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  - What's this?
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  What's this?
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  - That was a Christmas reference
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  that you couldn't figure out what we're talking about today,
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  you guys.
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  (laughing)
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  And I was running around, no one, Brela,
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  in the pouring rain, as a person from the desert.
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  I was so afraid, if you live in Arizona,
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  you will be happy to know that no one knows
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  how to drive in the rain.
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  - Okay, that's good, that's converting a lot.
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  - And you know, it was, it was torrential downpour.
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  - Every video you sent me from that weekend,
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  you were just so wet.
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  - So wet.
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  - And then you eventually stopped commenting on it,
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  but you were still wet in the video.
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  - Yes, and I was going on a date.
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  And I had very minimal time in the,
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  like, so from the time I ended my tours and work
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  to go on said date.
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  And then, so I got very ready in the morning,
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  not anticipating rain.
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  - And then by the end of it,
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  I looked like a wet friggin dog.
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  However, I used wet dogs.
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  - That's good, right?
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  - Yeah, maybe.
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  - I don't know if he likes dogs.
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  (laughing)
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  So that's good.
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  But, no, specifically, I used elf primer,
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  'cause I was like, okay, it's gonna be a long day.
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  I'm gonna go on all these apartment and play stores.
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  I need to make sure that my baby stays on point.
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  I use this elf primer.
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  - Is it the sticky one?
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  - The pink one, yeah, it's very sticky.
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  - The pink one, the Jennifer Coolidge just, wow.
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  - Wow.
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  - Oh, wow, just primer's amazing.
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  - Yeah, I don't know if it's that.
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  I'll have to post it on the answer, yeah.
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  But it was amazing.
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  Not a single bud, my hair on the other hand.
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  Did these bangs, baby?
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  - Dude, that's the struggle when you have bangs
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  is when there's a weather.
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  They don't stay where you want them to.
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  - Yeah, I've realized that I need to start
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  eyelash gluing them down at the tip,
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  so they don't move around.
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  - Go like this and put your hand here,
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  and then just push up.
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  - And then I always do a spritz of hairspray.
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  'Cause I still want them to look like they have movement,
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  but not actually move.
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  - Okay, that's smart.
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  And then if you go like that,
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  you make sure you don't get the hairspray on your face.
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  - Yeah, I think in that moment, I needed eyelash gluing.
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  There was wind, there was rain, it was everything.
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  - That's right.
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  - If anybody else with bangs has some hot tips, please.
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  - Yeah, that's fun.
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  - The bang girls, yeah.
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  So I toured so many places.
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  However, if you don't know anything about San Francisco,
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  there are a lot of homeless people in San Francisco.
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  The rain did hide a lot of the homeless people for me.
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  So I went on tours in places that are not, say,
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  first a woman to live in.
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  - Oh gosh.
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  - And I, like, thankfully asked the dormant.
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  I was like, what neighborhood is this?
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  And they were like, it's the tenderloin.
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  And I was like, okay, so.
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  - I think tenderloin is...
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  - You don't like the tenderloin if you live there.
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  - That's why you make that kind of beef.
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  - Yeah, I like the tenderloin cut of beef.
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  I don't like the tenderloin.
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  It's where all of them live.
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  - Well, I hope that there's some kind of good
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  housing community shelter program in place.
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  - Yes, well speaking of that.
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  - Oh yeah, I mean speaking of the unhoused.
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  - Oh gosh.
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  I got offered a job today.
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  - Yes, thank you.
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  - Thank you, thank you.
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  - Thank you.
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  - I haven't accepted it yet.
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  So maybe I shouldn't say where it's in a month.
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  - Yeah, we'll leave it at it.
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  - I will be working with people from the unhoused community
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  and victims of domestic violence.
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  - We love that.
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  - We stop getting back on their beaten.
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  - Helping women in a whole new way.
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  - Yes.
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  - So, you know, if I accept that million dollar job offer
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  for a non-profit.
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  (laughing)
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  - We don't get into that work for the money, do we?
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  - Yes, no.
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  Our social justice warrior over here.
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  - Honestly.
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  - He's bleeding heart.
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  - Yes, yes.
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  - I'm about to be bleeding money, so.
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  - I mean, that's just true.
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  You will be in San Francisco bleeding money.
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  - Well, I'm sick to stay with my bleeding heart.
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  It's gonna work out great.
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  We'll just send each other files of blood.
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  - Yes.
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  - Or we could wear little necklaces
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  like Angelina and her brother.
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  - It's very Bob Thornton.
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  - I thought it was her brother.
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  - No, she just made out with her brother on the red carpet.
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  - Okay, we could do that too.
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  - Okay, yeah.
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  - Yeah.
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  - That's all I've been up to.
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  I'm just kind of watching the regular shows.
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  I watched, I was like,
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  - We didn't saw wicked.
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  - We did.
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  I figured we'd talk about that at the end though.
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  - Okay, so you want to talk about it now.
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  - Yes, okay.
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  - We did see wicked and I enjoyed it.
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  - Yeah.
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  - We're just watching the usual stuff.
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  Me and Andrew, we're watching this anime called
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  "Dun-Dun"
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  - Don't drop that down.
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  - Okay, so "Dun-Dun"
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  and it is so over the top and funny.
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  And it's about this kind of nerdy kid
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  who believes in aliens.
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  And then this popular girl who believes in ghosts.
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  And they like run into each other
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  in a quirky set of circumstances
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  like most anime is and become best friends
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  who've been like hunt ghosts and aliens together.
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  - Okay.
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  - But then in like the first episode,
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  he's abducted by an alien and it steals his dick.
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  - Oh, wow, okay.
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  They don't probe him, they steal his probe.
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  - Oh, they try to probe her.
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  - But then yeah, they steal his penis.
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  - Okay. - Or maybe it was one of the ghosts.
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  - Somewhere.
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  - Okay, along the line is penis, the stolen.
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  And then he just help him get it back.
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  - Okay.
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  - And then he gets that back
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  but it's just a shaft of there's no balls.
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  So she, it sounds so absurd.
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  I promise it is so over there.
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  - What is going on over there?
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  - Okay.
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  - So then he has to go and find his balls.
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  So at one, the point is,
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  - This is an early enough episode of South Park,
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  but it's the penis.
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  - It's my penis when Mr. Karrison's penis.
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  - What's that they say?
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  If you love your penis, let it go.
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  If it loves you to come back.
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  (laughing)
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  - I am such a good one.
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  - Inspired a whole anime.
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  - It's it.
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  So where I'm at in the anime,
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  so far he's retrieved one of his testicles.
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  So he's got the shaft in one ball.
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  - Oh, so that's how I get in.
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  - And they're probably gonna fall in love at some point.
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  - Infinity stone style.
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  - He's kinda like all of the testicles.
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  (laughing)
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  - What's the name of this?
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  - Dun-da-da-da-da.
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  - Oh yeah, you just had that.
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  - I'd distract myself with a balloon.
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  - Yeah, oh.
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  - Oh.
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  - Okay.
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  - It's really funny and it doesn't take itself very seriously.
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  - I know.
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  - So, you just have like the most serious.
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  - I love my penis.
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  - And my ball.
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  - Well, yeah.
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  - Cup the penis back.
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  - Cup the balls.
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  - It was just the shaft, okay.
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  - Okay, Lance, I'm strong.
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  - That's what I thought of saying.
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  - What do people do with one testicle?
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  That's fine.
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  - It's a little lancy.
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  - It's fine.
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  - It's a little lancy.
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  - Yeah.
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  - So that's what I've been doing.
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  (laughing)
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  - I love that for you so much.
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  - Oh my gosh.
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  - Dines and Dines is not Christmas themed.
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  But there are balls like holly balls.
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  - Yeah.
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  - I don't know.
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  That's a terrible segue.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Today we're talking about holiday movies.
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  (laughing)
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  Yeah, so we're gonna take a quick break
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  and then stop talking about Chinatalia.
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  (laughing)
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  (dramatic music)
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  (dramatic music)
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  - So we've talked about holiday horror films
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  on this podcast and holiday films in general,
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  but we have yet to take a hard look
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  at the movie genre.
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  - A hard run.
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  - A hard look at the movie genre
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  that has become inescapable every year.
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  The Christmas rom-com.
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  These insubstantial cookie cutter romance movies
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  are like cinematic curpees.
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  You have to try very hard or be very lucky
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  to avoid catching one of them.
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  (laughing)
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  - Who doesn't think about curpees on the holiday?
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  - David Ewell.
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  (laughing)
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  - The gift of pizza and green.
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  It is the gift that keeps on going.
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  - Oh my god.
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  The Hallmark channel gets blamed
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  for the worst of these movies.
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  The formulaic big city girl returns to her small town home
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  to learn the true meaning of love.
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  - And her piece.
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  - And her piece.
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  (laughing)
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  From some honky hometown boy
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  who makes a gingerbread houses
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  or runs a Christmas tree farm
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  or some stupid shit like that.
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  Almost every network and streaming service
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  offers movies like this.
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  So we are gonna talk about the genre in general
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  and then talk about a movie that we both watched
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  that I actually really enjoyed.
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  It was nonsense.
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  - Yes.
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  - Frosty.
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  - Yes.
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  - Which sounds like something you shouldn't look up
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  on Urban Dictionary.
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  - Or that girl on Frosty.
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  - That's what I'm gonna do.
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  - Sure.
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  - You know, I'm trying something new for the holiday season.
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  We're all about experimenting.
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  - This is true.
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  - No, sexy, sentient snowman is not something
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  that I knew I needed in my life.
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  But yes, I went into it after you told me to watch it
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  because you were like, it was silly goofy.
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  - Yeah.
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  - I actually thought I was kind of cute.
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  Of course.
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  - It was adorable.
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  - The sexy sentient snowman delivered.
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  He was sexy sentient and it's not like,
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  well, for a little bit for a second.
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  - You know what?
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  Actually, I made a shit's creek reference
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  and I didn't even realize it took me like halfway
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  through the movie to realize that that's Alexis
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  like boyfriend vet guy from the shit's creek.
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  I didn't realize that I looked at it.
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  - He looked totally different.
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  - 'Cause he was long hair.
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  - Yeah.
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  - He looks a lot hotter with the long hair.
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  - Really?
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  - Yeah.
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  - I prefer him with the short hair.
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  - Oh.
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  - Yeah.
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  - I know.
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  - I'm like a long hair man.
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  - I mean, how'd you two, but there, I don't know.
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  - You know, maybe those Fabia romance novels rubbed off
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  on me more than I thought.
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  - Because I do love like a long hair.
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  - Yeah.
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  - As a date bald man all the time.
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  - You're super into bald guys.
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  (laughing)
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  - I know like a short hair man.
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  - I think you're a cute bald or Fabia, okay?
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  - Yeah.
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  - I think they give it to you.
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  - Honestly, it's very true.
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  - That it's very, very true.
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  - I like a beard.
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  Okay, but sexy, sentient, so man, man.
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  Hot frosty, as it's called on Netflix.
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  It has Gretchen Wieners in it.
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  - Lacey Schabair.
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  - Oh, Gretchen.
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  - I could not be bothered.
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  She's Gretchen Wieners.
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  I'm sorry.
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  - I'm sorry, not be bothered.
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  I think it's Schabair, but maybe I'm just saying
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  that like the Colbert report.
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  - Yeah.
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  - She says Schabair.
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  (laughing)
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  - So she's in it and her partner, her husband dies
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  of cancer. - He has been dies of cancer, yes.
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  - And she lives in this little rundown house.
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  - Because he used to be a contractor.
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  - And it's a very small town, like so small.
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  It's like what, like 100 people?
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  - Yeah, and there's one cop who is like the comic relief
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  slash antagonist of the movie,
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  because he wants to arrest hot frosty for streaking.
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  - Yes.
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  - Because when he got turned into a human,
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  he of course had no clothes on.
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  And he had to like rob a thrift shop
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  and he bought a jumpsuit that said Jack.
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  - I get it.
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  - Jack Frost.
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  - And my favorite holiday horror movie,
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  if you have any listeners about it.
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  - Every time you say that, though,
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  I think of Michael Keaton.
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  - I don't think that was a horror movie.
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  - I was talking about this in my office last week.
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  And they were like, like the Michael Keaton one?
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  And I was like, no.
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  - It's fair.
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  - If my deceased parent came back to me in the form
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  of a snowman, I would be horrified.
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  - You'd be like, no, you'd be like your mom.
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  - Yeah, but it would be horrified.
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  She's got like sticks for arms.
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  - But what if she was like--
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  - I'd like sticks for arms.
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  - What if she was like hot frosty version,
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  not like the sticks back at abs,
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  but like she looked like herself?
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  - Then that'd be fine.
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  And then I would, I guess, have to win her over
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  with love and turn her into a human.
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  - You'd have to get like a really big freezer.
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  (laughing)
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  So she'd stick around.
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  - This move is so stupid.
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  But if you don't think through it,
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  because yeah, he says snowman.
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  So he starts to like melt.
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  - Yeah.
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  - But it's basically just him being moist all the time.
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  - Oh.
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  - Mm.
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  - Which is--
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  - As Andrew said, is that just an excuse
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  for him to have wet abs for the whole movie?
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  And it's like, essentially, yes.
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  - Babywild that baby.
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  - Yeah, you know.
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  - And it's melting.
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  - And then when he gets thrown in jail,
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  it's very warm in the jail.
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  He starts to actually die.
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  - I actually didn't realize until this exact moment.
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  It's kind of like a, what's the,
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  I'm terrible Disney person, the one where they have to like,
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  be kissed.
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  Sleeping beauty.
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  - I was sleeping beauty.
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  - Yeah, snow white.
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  It's essentially both of them.
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  - To be like a real person.
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  - Yeah, to come back from like a coma.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Yeah, I guess that was kind of.
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  So, okay, questions about--
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  - Not for us to be pairing the hot frosty script
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  to Sleeping Beauty.
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  - I mean, they're both kind of nonsense.
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  - Yeah.
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  - Okay, my favorite thing about hot frosty,
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  is when he finds, okay, so he's learning everything
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  he can from TV, right?
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  She leaves him at home at one point.
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  Well, she goes works at her little diner,
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  of course, works at a fucking diner.
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  He goes into the basement and finds all of her dead husbands
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  stuff.
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  He finds death record or like the note from the doctor
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  and in comic sands, it says, "Doctors notes start chemotherapy,
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  "asap in comic sands."
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  And he's like, "Wow, I don't know what any of that means,
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  "but it sounds not good."
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  And then he goes, "What's cancer?"
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  - How can he read, first of all?
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  - Yeah, I guess--
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  - That's a good point.
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  - How does he read?
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  How does he speak English?
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  - That's a good plot.
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  - Oh, like?
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  That's a good plot, oh, I know.
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  - How do we know he's like an English speaking hot frosty?
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  What if she put like the scarf around him
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  and he comes to life and he's like,
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  "Joabella."
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  - Yeah, sexy, senty and snowman.
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  - I don't know.
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  - He said something, how he speaks English,
• 14:28
  can't can read.
• 14:30
  - How did we all speak a language at some point, you know?
• 14:34
  - We would learn it though.
• 14:35
  - I know, but how did the first person
• 14:37
  learn a language?
• 14:38
  - They, I guess they invented it.
• 14:40
  - But like how?
• 14:41
  I'm not even a smoking weed anymore.
• 14:44
  - I know, I feel so hot.
• 14:45
  (laughing)
• 14:47
  - Like, how did words start out there?
• 14:50
  - No, literally, as a kid, I used to ask my mom
• 14:51
  this question like over and over and she just went,
• 14:53
  "I don't know, man."
• 14:54
  - Get going.
• 14:55
  - I don't know, I don't know.
• 14:56
  - Yeah, my mom shut up.
• 14:57
  - You're so annoying.
• 14:58
  - Just give me a moment of rest.
• 15:00
  (laughing)
• 15:01
  - I'm bad, I please.
• 15:02
  I need to, mommy needs her special chase.
• 15:06
  - Me and while I'm like,
• 15:07
  - I'm also like, forging into the bathroom.
• 15:08
  I'm like, "What are you doing?"
• 15:09
  (laughing)
• 15:10
  - That was me, my mom's on the phone with my uncle
• 15:13
  at one point when I was little and I woke up to her.
• 15:15
  'Cause of course when you're a kid, you have no,
• 15:17
  you don't care if your parents are on the phone.
• 15:19
  - Yeah.
• 15:20
  - You're like, "I want I need to say more important."
• 15:22
  I woke up and I'm like, "Mom, let's an orgasm."
• 15:25
  And I just remember her going,
• 15:27
  "She just asked me when an orgasm is."
• 15:29
  I got her going.
• 15:30
  - And I was standing there like,
• 15:31
  "Yeah, so hung up."
• 15:32
  And she's like, "It's the peak."
• 15:35
  - How old were you?
• 15:36
  - I mean, maybe 10.
• 15:38
  - Oh my, how did you hear this?
• 15:40
  - I have no idea.
• 15:42
  I knew what sex was at a certain point,
• 15:44
  but I didn't know what it was.
• 15:45
  - Yeah.
• 15:46
  - And so she told me and I was like,
• 15:47
  "This is not the female experience."
• 15:49
  (laughing)
• 15:51
  I didn't know what an orgasm was until I was 25.
• 15:54
  (laughing)
• 15:56
  Anyway, hot frosty.
• 15:59
  (laughing)
• 16:00
  He doesn't have fingerprints 'cause he's a snowman.
• 16:03
  - Yeah.
• 16:03
  - But eventually he turns human.
• 16:04
  - Yeah.
• 16:05
  - Oh, no.
• 16:06
  My other favorite thing about hot frosty
• 16:07
  besides the comic sands and the he has cancer report
• 16:11
  is she's at the cafe in the end and she's like,
• 16:14
  "Jack is, you guys aren't gonna believe me,
• 16:16
  "but he's a snowman and everyone might..."
• 16:18
  Yeah, we know.
• 16:19
  Yeah.
• 16:21
  - He's, you guys all knew and he's there like,
• 16:23
  "Yeah, it's a Christmas miracle."
• 16:26
  - No.
• 16:27
  - Yeah.
• 16:27
  - Everyone was just fine.
• 16:30
  - I am.
• 16:30
  - It's a snowman.
• 16:31
  - I thought I was really silly, really funny.
• 16:33
  I thought it was good enough.
• 16:35
  Like, "Gracian Weeners," again, that's her name.
• 16:38
  - Sure, man.
• 16:39
  - Um, she, I think she did well.
• 16:41
  Like I think she's good.
• 16:42
  - She's good.
• 16:43
  - She's good. - She's good.
• 16:44
  - She's good.
• 16:45
  - She's good.
• 16:46
  - She's good.
• 16:47
  - Yeah.
• 16:48
  It was fun enough.
• 16:49
  I knew it was gonna be a terrible movie.
• 16:50
  It's a Netflix Christmas movie.
• 16:51
  - Oh, but I loved it when I entered it.
• 16:52
  - I'm talking about a ship.
• 16:52
  - I thought it was cute.
• 16:54
  She had good timing.
• 16:54
  I did love the Lindsay Lohan Christmas movie
• 16:58
  that we talked about where Shauna and I literally muted it
• 17:01
  and made up our own words while drinking instead.
• 17:05
  Because it was such a bad movie.
• 17:06
  They make a joke and she goes,
• 17:09
  "Wow, that really looks like a girl I went to high school with."
• 17:12
  - Yes.
• 17:13
  - Which means, canonically, that Mean Girls was also in that town.
• 17:17
  Right?
• 17:19
  Because like, she's from that small town.
• 17:21
  - Yeah, maybe.
• 17:22
  Weird.
• 17:23
  - I don't like that.
• 17:24
  - Also, no.
• 17:25
  - Maybe it's just the multiverse of Madness.
• 17:26
  - Or maybe she married Mr. Contractor Cancer Man.
• 17:30
  - Contractor Cancer Man.
• 17:32
  - And then move there.
• 17:34
  - Yeah, that's true.
• 17:35
  - It's all the multiverse of Mean Girls.
• 17:37
  - The man, I think we need to do a deep dive on this.
• 17:40
  - I want to see, I want to see cool where
• 17:42
  Caddy steals sexy sentience, no man man, in Hawaii.
• 17:47
  - Oh, I thought you were gonna say steal something
• 17:49
  with the multiverse of madness.
• 17:50
  - Or something that steals the dark hole.
• 17:52
  - Steal the infinity stone.
• 17:54
  - Steal the girl.
• 17:54
  - Don't touch the dance balls.
• 17:58
  - Don't touch the dance balls.
• 17:59
  It's just all in there.
• 18:00
  It's the multiverse.
• 18:02
  God, it's nonsense.
• 18:04
  Anyway, yes, hot frosty was perfect.
• 18:07
  If you just,
• 18:08
  - It was just really stupid moving.
• 18:10
  - Yeah, and that's what we needed.
• 18:11
  I watched it like two days after the election, I think,
• 18:15
  because I said, I want something that is just,
• 18:18
  I don't need to think too deeply.
• 18:19
  And of course, I spent the next two days like,
• 18:21
  how did he know how to speak?
• 18:23
  - She was not thinking too deep.
• 18:25
  (laughing)
• 18:27
  But I needed something silly.
• 18:28
  And I was thinking on the level of five year old Olivia,
• 18:31
  I thought about that.
• 18:32
  - Mommy, what's an orgasm in what her words
• 18:35
  and how did they become things that we say?
• 18:38
  - Like the word orgasm.
• 18:40
  - Poor moms out there.
• 18:41
  Respects all the moms, literally.
• 18:43
  - But I think that's kind of what you get
• 18:44
  with these like hallmark romcoms.
• 18:46
  - Right.
• 18:47
  - Do you watch the Chad Michael Murray one?
• 18:48
  - No, but I want to.
• 18:49
  - I have an eye bear.
• 18:50
  - Oh God, what's it called?
• 18:52
  - They're like male strippers.
• 18:54
  - Yes.
• 18:55
  - Mary gentleman.
• 18:56
  - Yeah, that's a gentle man.
• 18:57
  - Yes, I mean, it's on Netflix.
• 18:59
  And this girl is a Broadway dancer
• 19:01
  and she's trying to save her family's bar.
• 19:04
  That's like a jazz club or something.
• 19:06
  - Yeah.
• 19:07
  - And again, we haven't, yeah, there are of us have seen it.
• 19:09
  But I'm going to the ribs.
• 19:11
  - In order to save the bar, she decides she's going
• 19:14
  to host a male stripper.
• 19:16
  - A male review.
• 19:17
  - And Christmas Eve to save the bar.
• 19:20
  And Chad--
• 19:21
  - The way Jesus would want it.
• 19:22
  - Yeah, so it's like magic, my Christmas style.
• 19:25
  And I don't know, I don't really,
• 19:27
  Chad Michael Murray doesn't do it for me.
• 19:29
  - Dude, okay, he didn't do it for me back in the day,
• 19:32
  but like watching the previews from this,
• 19:34
  I think this man got fine or with age.
• 19:36
  - Maybe it's because we're getting finer with age.
• 19:39
  - Yeah, I don't, I think the opposite.
• 19:41
  Like I think I think he was more attractive
• 19:43
  when he was younger.
• 19:44
  - Like Cinderella's turn.
• 19:45
  - And then enough blonde Ben hurt me in my past,
• 19:47
  but-- - I never trust a blonde man.
• 19:50
  - No, no, no, no.
• 19:52
  - We don't do it, sorry, blonde man.
• 19:54
  No blonde man, or what's my name?
• 19:55
  - It's me, I'm a blonde man.
• 19:57
  And you listen to this, please, like just let us know.
• 19:59
  - We like you a little bit more than the blonde man
• 20:02
  that I've dated, 'cause you listen to us, but--
• 20:04
  - Yeah, yeah, 'cause they definitely do.
• 20:06
  - You earn some points by listening to this podcast.
• 20:09
  We'll put it in the plus column.
• 20:11
  - But I don't know, there's something about him.
• 20:12
  He does it for me.
• 20:13
  - Yeah, okay.
• 20:14
  - Maybe it's just the abs.
• 20:15
  I think it's the abs.
• 20:16
  - He released a calendar as well.
• 20:18
  - Like it's really full blown going into this now,
• 20:21
  where it's like every month he's stressed
• 20:23
  like in a sexy little costume.
• 20:26
  - Like sexy male stripper.
• 20:27
  Have you ever been no male stripper?
• 20:29
  - A gay club, yeah.
• 20:31
  - Okay, but not like a gay stripper club, yeah.
• 20:35
  - So they're not like girls there?
• 20:36
  - Magic Mike, I mean, there were women there.
• 20:39
  - Okay. - I got you, I got you.
• 20:40
  - But like the audience was men.
• 20:42
  - Yeah.
• 20:43
  - We, I used to go to this one in Phoenix called Dick's Cabaret.
• 20:47
  - I love that.
• 20:48
  - So let's go.
• 20:50
  - I have no idea of Dick's Cabaret still open.
• 20:52
  I haven't gone since I was maybe like 18 or no.
• 20:55
  - Okay.
• 20:55
  - It means Stephanie and Jessica used to go
• 20:57
  and I remember calling for the hours once.
• 21:00
  I haven't, this is how long ago this was.
• 21:02
  - We were 18.
• 21:03
  - Yeah, and we were like,
• 21:04
  - I was just, I was like,
• 21:05
  - I was calling seven years.
• 21:07
  - We had to call them from the yellow page, let's see.
• 21:10
  We wanna know what time the dicks are here.
• 21:13
  - And it's in the phone with Dick's Cabaret,
• 21:15
  home with the biggest cock in the Southwest.
• 21:17
  (laughing)
• 21:18
  - I love that.
• 21:19
  What a child.
• 21:20
  - I'm better not be closed.
• 21:21
  - I hope there's still life.
• 21:22
  It was in like the industrial part of downtown Phoenix
• 21:25
  where you're driving and you're like,
• 21:26
  maybe we shouldn't get out of the car ladies.
• 21:29
  Like, we're teenagers.
• 21:31
  - Yeah, it was a manly woman there.
• 21:32
  Was it also a lot of men?
• 21:33
  - It was a second mix.
• 21:34
  - Okay.
• 21:35
  - And then for my bachelor at party,
• 21:36
  we did thunder from down under.
• 21:37
  - Oh, was that fun?
• 21:38
  - Oh, it was.
• 21:39
  - Oh, fun dude.
• 21:40
  - Yeah.
• 21:41
  - I had like the sash and the tiara or the,
• 21:44
  not the tiara, the fucking veil.
• 21:46
  - Yeah.
• 21:47
  - It's how they brought me up on stage.
• 21:48
  - The sticker kissed me.
• 21:50
  - Ooh.
• 21:51
  - So I can tell you that's no.
• 21:51
  - Oh my God.
• 21:52
  He was so fine.
• 21:54
  He was a fire man.
• 21:55
  - Ooh.
• 21:56
  - I mean, I don't think professionally.
• 21:57
  He was a fire man.
• 21:58
  I think that was probably his costume.
• 21:59
  Anyway.
• 22:00
  - Yeah, maybe.
• 22:01
  - Maybe, I don't know, maybe.
• 22:02
  - Maybe he'd be a volunteer fire fighter.
• 22:03
  - He's fighting that fire in my heart.
• 22:06
  And he's all strallian because it's thunder from down,
• 22:08
  down, down.
• 22:08
  - Oh.
• 22:09
  - And he's like,
• 22:10
  "Oh, right."
• 22:11
  - You don't like Sam?
• 22:12
  (laughing)
• 22:14
  - I think it's about as real as you're an ass.
• 22:16
  - Holy.
• 22:17
  - An ass and a toy key.
• 22:18
  (laughing)
• 22:19
  - He smelled so good.
• 22:21
  - I hope so.
• 22:22
  - He's whipping me around in an office chair.
• 22:25
  I don't know why he's a fire man with an office chair.
• 22:28
  - Yeah.
• 22:28
  - He's fine.
• 22:29
  - Don't ask questions.
• 22:30
  Just like with hot frosty.
• 22:31
  - And it was so confused.
• 22:32
  I don't know what to say while I'm up there.
• 22:34
  Like everyone's staring at you.
• 22:35
  So I just went,
• 22:36
  "He smelled really good."
• 22:38
  - He's like, "Sounds."
• 22:39
  - He's like, "Sounds."
• 22:40
  - He's like, "He did that thing,
• 22:43
  retab, his cheater."
• 22:44
  And you like go into KISS and he turned and kissed me
• 22:47
  on the mouth.
• 22:48
  - What a cheater.
• 22:49
  - I know.
• 22:50
  I'm my bachelor at party.
• 22:51
  I'm kissin'.
• 22:52
  - He's so late, dude.
• 22:53
  - I say so late.
• 22:54
  - He's so late, dude.
• 22:54
  Good name.
• 22:55
  - I was, I've never been, that was my first kiss.
• 22:57
  (laughing)
• 22:59
  My husband and I were saving it.
• 23:00
  - I was saving it from marriage.
• 23:02
  - Dugger style.
• 23:03
  - Oh god.
• 23:04
  (laughing)
• 23:06
  - Oh my god, this is a rant heavy episode.
• 23:08
  I am A okay with it.
• 23:09
  - Yes.
• 23:10
  - Did you watch anything else besides Hot Frosty?
• 23:12
  I've seen, I watch one with my grandma
• 23:15
  because she loves those home-marked romance movies.
• 23:17
  - And gosh, it was one of the girls from The Walking Dead.
• 23:20
  I don't remember the actress's name,
• 23:22
  but she is a sports therapist, like physical therapist.
• 23:26
  And her client is a professional athlete.
• 23:30
  And at first, they don't like each other very much
• 23:32
  'cause they got very different attitudes
• 23:33
  about Christmas and life.
• 23:35
  And then in the end they fall in love.
• 23:36
  And it was delightful.
• 23:38
  - How can people fall in love if they don't like Christmas
• 23:41
  and one loves Christmas?
• 23:42
  (laughing)
• 23:43
  - Yeah, I think that home-marked movies traditionally
• 23:47
  are very formulaic, very standard of big city girl
• 23:52
  goes home, falls in love.
• 23:55
  I don't typically like those movies.
• 23:58
  I think I was able to watch Hot Frosty
• 24:00
  'cause it was like a silly like sentient snowman.
• 24:04
  - Any talk.
• 24:04
  - Yeah, any time, that didn't hurt.
• 24:06
  - So I wanted to go on a mission to find a
• 24:10
  Christmas movie that actually did not fit
• 24:15
  the formulaic Christmas romance movie.
• 24:17
  - Did you find what?
• 24:18
  - I did, I ended up crying in the middle of the day
• 24:23
  because I was also working.
• 24:25
  I was like, let me find this Christmas movie.
• 24:28
  - I'm gonna turn off my brain a little.
• 24:30
  - So it was last Christmas with Amelia Clark
• 24:34
  and Henry Golding.
• 24:36
  - I'm not crying yet, but I heard it sad.
• 24:38
  - Oh my God, it's so sad.
• 24:39
  - It came out 2019.
• 24:41
  - And it is, it's very sweet.
• 24:44
  It's got a very good message.
• 24:46
  I think I identified with,
• 24:49
  so I had seen it before in COVID times, actually.
• 24:54
  And my brother and his wife are like literally falling
• 24:59
  in love and I'm over here like drinking everyday,
• 25:02
  single alone in COVID, like a total mess.
• 25:05
  And I remember like resonating with the movie a lot
• 25:09
  because Amelia Clark is like this, not put together,
• 25:14
  I think she's 26 or 27 in the movie.
• 25:16
  She's very, like, yeah.
• 25:18
  - So she's very like unkempt, not put together,
• 25:23
  like struggling in life.
• 25:24
  And I really remember like resonating with movie,
• 25:27
  but the end of the movie is so frickin sad.
• 25:30
  I cried my eyes out, I don't wanna spoil it.
• 25:32
  - I need to watch it, yeah, I don't wanna spoil it
• 25:34
  for anyone who hasn't seen it.
• 25:36
  - But it is such a good movie and it's all about life
• 25:40
  and like helping people and appreciating what you have
• 25:44
  and the character in it, Amelia Clark, you know,
• 25:48
  was really sick at one point
• 25:50
  and I kind of went through a similar journey
• 25:52
  when I was younger and I really, really liked it.
• 25:55
  But I was trying to rewatch it
• 25:57
  so I could re-talk about it on this podcast.
• 25:59
  And I just accidentally traumatized.
• 26:02
  - She's trying to frighten my eyes out.
• 26:04
  - I had like 330 today.
• 26:06
  - Today?
• 26:07
  - Yeah, I watched it today.
• 26:07
  And I was like, God, why am I crying in the middle of the day?
• 26:10
  - Thankfully.
• 26:11
  - I got the client in the client at the club.
• 26:12
  - And the Tuesday.
• 26:13
  - Thankfully I wasn't a busy work day,
• 26:14
  but there are some really good movies.
• 26:16
  And I think like not being formulaic
• 26:19
  makes a good Christmas movie.
• 26:21
  Like you look at like elf and that is just,
• 26:25
  no one had any idea that elf would work.
• 26:27
  Like it was just a little feral.
• 26:29
  - And it's to have a little romance in there.
• 26:31
  - Yeah, it's like fun.
• 26:31
  - But it's just mainly wolf feral running around New York.
• 26:34
  - In a freaking like elf costume.
• 26:37
  - Yeah, and tight love Christmas movies.
• 26:40
  I make me feel happy.
• 26:41
  And like if you're watching the "Homark Ones" more power to,
• 26:44
  you know what you're getting.
• 26:45
  Sometimes we need those like no surprises.
• 26:47
  - Traditional typical.
• 26:48
  - Yeah.
• 26:49
  That's interesting.
• 26:50
  You like those, but you, I don't like seek them out
• 26:53
  unless I'm in the mood for something that's like,
• 26:55
  no brainers.
• 26:56
  - Yeah, no brainer.
• 26:57
  I do appreciate that they're getting a little more diverse.
• 27:01
  - No, like yes.
• 27:01
  - I remember seeing those graphics
• 27:03
  where it's all like a white couple,
• 27:05
  a white straight couple, we're all in like their 20s or 30s
• 27:09
  and they're all wearing the green and red sweaters.
• 27:11
  It's like every single cover of the same.
• 27:14
  - Like a repeat.
• 27:15
  - Spock the difference in these images.
• 27:16
  - So now they're starting to have more like people of color,
• 27:19
  more like LGBTQ people in there,
• 27:21
  which I like.
• 27:22
  I really did like happiest season with Kristen Stewart.
• 27:26
  Did you not see this one?
• 27:28
  Oh, it's so good.
• 27:29
  So, "Homark" maybe?
• 27:30
  - No, it's on, it's a Netflix original.
• 27:33
  I think it came out in 2020.
• 27:35
  I'm sorry, it's Hulu.
• 27:36
  So she is dating this woman, McKinsey Davis,
• 27:40
  his character named Harper.
• 27:42
  And Harper's not out to her parents yet.
• 27:44
  So, Brings Kristen Stewart's character home for the holidays,
• 27:48
  but just has to tell everyone they're just friends.
• 27:51
  - And they were roommates.
• 27:52
  - And they were roommates.
• 27:53
  Aubrey Plasas and she plays a lesbian too,
• 27:56
  which just kind of makes everyone gayer.
• 27:58
  - Oh, I've seen the clips of this,
• 28:00
  but I've never actually seen it.
• 28:02
  - Yeah, give it up.
• 28:03
  - Yeah, watch it.
• 28:03
  Watch it, it's definitely, I mean, it's a rom-com,
• 28:05
  but it's about finding yourself and being sure
• 28:07
  to yourself over the holidays and finally,
• 28:09
  and I enjoy it.
• 28:11
  - I love about it, yeah.
• 28:12
  - I love about it.
• 28:13
  - Yeah, it's good stuff.
• 28:14
  - We definitely need more representation within it.
• 28:17
  Again, we talked about this last Christmas.
• 28:19
  I'm more of like a holiday horror person.
• 28:22
  - I do like a good holiday horror.
• 28:23
  - I love the silliness, the campiness,
• 28:25
  the goofiness of it, all deep down.
• 28:28
  But if you had to do like,
• 28:29
  only watch one Christmas movie for the rest of your life,
• 28:32
  what would it be?
• 28:33
  - Jim Carrey's how they grudge still Christmas.
• 28:35
  - Damn it, that was gonna be mine.
• 28:37
  - Okay, to be original, I would say,
• 28:40
  the nightmaribow for Christmas.
• 28:41
  - Really?
• 28:42
  - Is that a Christmas movie or Halloween movie?
• 28:44
  - It's a Christmas movie in my mind.
• 28:45
  - Yeah, my other one would probably be home alone too.
• 28:48
  - Ooh, yeah, but Trump's in that.
• 28:50
  - How fuck you're right.
• 28:52
  - I know, I ruined everything good.
• 28:53
  - Man, we just digitally did it.
• 28:55
  - Yeah, in my mind, he's gone.
• 28:58
  - He's gone.
• 28:58
  - In my mind, he's gone.
• 28:59
  - He's a Christmas miracle.
• 29:01
  - That's the real miracle.
• 29:03
  - Coming out of Timout.
• 29:04
  - Somebody please send us a copy of the non-Trump.
• 29:08
  - Yeah.
• 29:09
  - Yeah.
• 29:10
  - That's a great one too.
• 29:10
  - That's all we want for Christmas.
• 29:12
  - We can replace him with some other millionaire.
• 29:14
  - Yeah, let's take a quick break.
• 29:15
  And I wanna talk about a movie that's not a holiday
• 29:19
  specific film, but something that is going to be
• 29:21
  very popular and I'm sure a lot of people
• 29:23
  are gonna be watching this Christmas in theaters.
• 29:25
  (dramatic music)
• 29:29
  (dramatic music)
• 29:30
  - So Olivia and I went on a little movie date last night.
• 29:34
  - We did.
• 29:35
  - I mean, this is coming out like weeks later,
• 29:37
  but that's fine.
• 29:38
  - At some point in the not too distant past,
• 29:41
  we went on a movie date and we saw Wicked.
• 29:44
  - Yes.
• 29:45
  - You didn't have, like you've never seen the musical
• 29:49
  neither of I, and you were like,
• 29:50
  I guess we can see this, yeah.
• 29:51
  - Yeah, Shawna texted me and was like,
• 29:53
  can we go see Wicked?
• 29:55
  And I was like, I am not a musical person
• 29:58
  or a theater kid.
• 29:59
  Did you do theater as a kid?
• 30:01
  - A little bit.
• 30:02
  - Okay, interesting.
• 30:03
  - Yeah, I mean, I was definitely like a competitive dancer
• 30:07
  and I'm not much of a singer.
• 30:09
  I know that's Shawkin, right?
• 30:10
  (laughing)
• 30:11
  - Who'd have found this voice?
• 30:13
  - Just Creed.
• 30:15
  - Just Creed, that's the only thing I'm good at singing.
• 30:18
  (laughing)
• 30:19
  - I'll say karaoke every time.
• 30:21
  - Every time.
• 30:22
  - But I do really like musicals.
• 30:24
  I love Lone Rouge and Chicago.
• 30:27
  - Lone Rouge's classic.
• 30:29
  - Yeah, the greatest showman, all of that.
• 30:31
  I love her solo movie.
• 30:32
  - Really, it's me.
• 30:33
  - My husband's favorite movie.
• 30:35
  - So random.
• 30:36
  - What?
• 30:37
  - Okay, I'm gonna put him out a little bit.
• 30:39
  That song, there's a song from it.
• 30:41
  I don't remember what it's called,
• 30:42
  but he gets a little teary eyeed every time it comes off.
• 30:47
  - Oh God.
• 30:47
  - I'm like, I caught him watching YouTube videos
• 30:50
  and it was just like,
• 30:51
  (laughing)
• 30:52
  just a little, just a little misty eye.
• 30:54
  I'll just send it to you.
• 30:55
  It's a beautiful song.
• 30:56
  - Okay, I'm gonna make fun of him forever.
• 30:58
  - Absolutely.
• 30:59
  - Absolutely.
• 31:00
  - But I left wicked.
• 31:02
  It was a little long.
• 31:03
  - Yeah.
• 31:04
  - But I think that I'm not a huge Ariana Grande fan either.
• 31:08
  I think she's a little problematic,
• 31:09
  but she did a great job.
• 31:10
  - Yes.
• 31:11
  - I can't believe that that voice comes out of that.
• 31:12
  - I need a new body.
• 31:13
  - Oh, emphasis on the tiny little body.
• 31:19
  So I would say--
• 31:20
  - It's a body-shaning here obviously, but--
• 31:22
  - Yeah, yeah.
• 31:23
  - So I'm gonna say, here's my quick spoiler for review.
• 31:28
  Goddamn it.
• 31:30
  Why can Jonathan Bailey not be bisexual
• 31:33
  just for my own personal fantasies?
• 31:35
  That would be amazing.
• 31:36
  - Oh, he's seen by.
• 31:37
  - So he like, he's not.
• 31:38
  - Oh, I can't even be bisexual.
• 31:40
  - I got so hopeful.
• 31:41
  - Yeah, same.
• 31:42
  That's why I said, why can't I be bisexual?
• 31:44
  Just so I could dream that one day I would have a chance.
• 31:48
  - Oh my God.
• 31:48
  - I would be very happy for him.
• 31:49
  - So many times throughout the movie.
• 31:51
  - He's so handsome.
• 31:52
  - Yeah, the only reason I said yes to going was
• 31:56
  because I wanted to stare at Jonathan Bailey more.
• 31:58
  - He's so good looking.
• 32:00
  - Dancing, singing, he's even hotter
• 32:03
  than he is in Bridgerton.
• 32:04
  Two, every time SpongeBob was on screen
• 32:07
  and told frickin' jump scare.
• 32:09
  - We both went, "Boo."
• 32:10
  - Yeah, no, he makes this comment about family
• 32:13
  not being sad in the very first five minutes of the movie.
• 32:18
  And I went, "Sure, your family doesn't feel that way."
• 32:21
  - I was like, "I bet your family misses you
• 32:23
  and you said, I bet your kids miss you."
• 32:25
  (laughing)
• 32:27
  - And I was like, "So good."
• 32:29
  - The editors did him so dirty, keeping that in there.
• 32:32
  And then, you know, unfortunately,
• 32:36
  I think that Ariana did an amazing job in the movie
• 32:40
  both singing, I think her comedic timing was amazing.
• 32:44
  I had a very hard time looking at her,
• 32:49
  purely as someone coming out of being a teenager
• 32:53
  in the 2000s.
• 32:54
  - I got you.
• 32:55
  - And it really triggered like a part of me
• 32:59
  that reminded me of that picture of like Lindsay Lohan
• 33:04
  and Nicole Richie when, like in the tabloid.
• 33:08
  - And it was jarring at certain points.
• 33:13
  And, you know, everyone is on their own journey,
• 33:16
  but you could definitely tell like when certain scenes
• 33:19
  were filmed just by how skinny she was getting
• 33:23
  throughout the film.
• 33:25
  - Yeah, I could say that.
• 33:26
  - And, you know, she's commented on having health issues
• 33:30
  and things like that, whatever they are,
• 33:32
  wish her love and light.
• 33:34
  But it being a PG movie really scared me
• 33:36
  because you could see how it could be like triggering.
• 33:39
  - Yeah, she's promoted as the most beautiful,
• 33:42
  the best, like the most popular.
• 33:44
  And like, you know, as someone coming out of the Y2K generation,
• 33:49
  like those images stick with you,
• 33:53
  even to the point where you're in your 30s
• 33:55
  and you're like, oh my gosh.
• 33:57
  - Totally did.
• 33:58
  - Like, yeah, immediately was like jarred.
• 34:00
  - Yeah.
• 34:01
  - But I think her singing was amazing.
• 34:03
  I mean, she acted as funny.
• 34:05
  - She was so good at it.
• 34:07
  - Her and Bo and Yang have such good chemistry
• 34:09
  who plays whenever best friends.
• 34:11
  And then at one point when she's like faints
• 34:13
  and he like lifts her and carries her away.
• 34:15
  I'm like, yeah.
• 34:16
  - I imagine that's how Ariana Grande leaves every room.
• 34:18
  - Yeah. - I do think the personality of Glenda
• 34:22
  is very close to Ariana's actual personality.
• 34:26
  - Very like self-centered and like,
• 34:29
  thinks that she's just hot shit.
• 34:31
  - Who knows if this was ever true,
• 34:32
  but there was a rumor that for a very long time,
• 34:34
  Ariana would not let anyone photograph
• 34:36
  the left side of her face.
• 34:38
  Like, to the point where all of the people
• 34:41
  at her concert, it's like the professional photographers
• 34:44
  would have to be on the right side.
• 34:46
  - So but they couldn't capture it.
• 34:47
  - So Ariana's always had a very big diva vibe
• 34:50
  follow her from the donut looking all the way to.
• 34:54
  - The donut looking is what put me over the edge with her.
• 34:55
  I was like, this is just so like looking down.
• 34:58
  Like that was felt very classist to me.
• 35:00
  And that's where I was like,
• 35:01
  which is my head of my hair.
• 35:03
  - Yeah.
• 35:04
  - Sanderriva did amazing.
• 35:06
  I think that the acting that she did
• 35:09
  was so amazing.
• 35:10
  The singing she did, she's a Broadway person.
• 35:13
  - She was wonderful.
• 35:14
  I mean, she's been a little over top of the top
• 35:16
  in the press.
• 35:17
  - Oh my god, the press story has been so--
• 35:19
  - It's been so funny.
• 35:21
  They're just like all over each other.
• 35:23
  - They're all over each other.
• 35:24
  - And then just bawling their eyes out the entire time.
• 35:26
  - But you know a lot of people are listening
• 35:28
  to divine gravity and holding space for that.
• 35:31
  - Yeah.
• 35:31
  - And they're just like grasping hands and weeping.
• 35:34
  - No, not grasping hands and grasping hands.
• 35:35
  - They're just like the nail.
• 35:37
  - It's literally--
• 35:38
  - They shot like shot, something's holding space for you.
• 35:41
  - They're holding space for you.
• 35:43
  - I didn't know if they were doing that.
• 35:44
  - No, that's too much.
• 35:45
  It's holding the nail.
• 35:47
  She's only holding her nail.
• 35:49
  She's not even touching her fingers.
• 35:51
  - She's just holding her nail.
• 35:53
  - She's so comfortable.
• 35:54
  - Huh?
• 35:55
  (laughing)
• 35:57
  - Yeah.
• 35:58
  - It's been a little over the top
• 35:59
  and I'm glad that this press tour is gonna be ending.
• 36:01
  - For now, it's a part one.
• 36:03
  - It's a part one.
• 36:04
  - It's a part one.
• 36:05
  - Jeff Goldbloom's in it.
• 36:06
  He's wonderful as the Wizard of Oz.
• 36:08
  Michelle Yo is mad and morrible.
• 36:10
  I didn't realize this, but Peter Dinklage
• 36:12
  plays the voice of Dr. Dillamond.
• 36:14
  - Oh really?
• 36:15
  - Yeah, which makes sense 'cause I liked him.
• 36:17
  - You couldn't figure that out?
• 36:18
  - No, I'm really bad at that.
• 36:20
  - Oh, okay.
• 36:21
  - So she faced--
• 36:23
  - Yeah, and then sometimes I'm face blind,
• 36:24
  like with hot frosty.
• 36:26
  (laughing)
• 36:28
  I'm just not good at human interactions.
• 36:30
  But yeah, I would pop wicked.
• 36:32
  It's got a 90% I think on Rotten Tomatoes,
• 36:36
  I think it's just gonna be kind of like a cultural thing.
• 36:38
  Like everybody's gonna be talking about for a long time.
• 36:41
  Like Barbie Grasp Dissolve or, you know, months.
• 36:44
  And I think it's wicked right now.
• 36:46
  - It's wicked cool.
• 36:48
  - It's so wicked.
• 36:49
  - It's two non-theater people,
• 36:52
  or two, you like musicals, but like not a theater kid,
• 36:56
  not a musical person.
• 36:58
  I actually really did enjoy it.
• 37:00
  - I do think it could've been a little bit shorter.
• 37:04
  - I got a little long in the two there.
• 37:06
  - Yeah, in the middle of the neck.
• 37:07
  - Yeah, you know, I think it could've been two hours
• 37:11
  and 20 minutes, but you know, I think from everything
• 37:14
  I've read online for people who are theater kids,
• 37:17
  musical obsessed, like it is just such a love letter to.
• 37:21
  - Right, it's everything that they wanted.
• 37:22
  - Yes, and I'm glad that we didn't have any singers
• 37:24
  in the audience in our theater.
• 37:25
  - Oh, yeah, I think so.
• 37:27
  - We did have a standing clap at the end of the time.
• 37:30
  - We did have a standing nomination.
• 37:32
  - And I was like, okay.
• 37:33
  - I wish she had that note.
• 37:34
  - Yeah.
• 37:36
  - Yeah, a lot of people are saying that they actually
• 37:39
  like Cynthia Areva's rendition of "Define Gravity"
• 37:44
  more than Adenum and Zell.
• 37:46
  - Adel de Zeein.
• 37:47
  - Is that it?
• 37:52
  - No, it's Adenum and Zell.
• 37:54
  - John Schruppelter was introducing her
• 37:56
  in the Oscars years ago.
• 37:58
  - And he said, ladies and gentlemen,
• 38:00
  Zell de Zeein, he just made it up.
• 38:04
  - I'm sorry, keep going, keep going.
• 38:07
  - I'll send you the clip.
• 38:08
  It's amazing.
• 38:08
  - I know what you're talking about,
• 38:09
  but Adel de Zeein was like, did I say it wrong?
• 38:13
  Adenum and Zell is in.
• 38:14
  - Wicked spoiler.
• 38:15
  Sorry, that's a total spoiler.
• 38:17
  - Yeah, I mean she has a little pop up.
• 38:17
  - Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's wonderful.
• 38:19
  - Yes, no, I think it was really, really good.
• 38:22
  I'm excited for part two.
• 38:23
  It's gonna come out exactly a year from now.
• 38:25
  - Yes.
• 38:26
  - They've already filmed it.
• 38:27
  - Nice.
• 38:28
  - And so that's really nice.
• 38:29
  And I will say, if you saw the trailer for it,
• 38:33
  the trailer made it look very CGI.
• 38:35
  It's actually not.
• 38:36
  - There's a lot of practical sets.
• 38:38
  - No, all these tulips in the movie, all real.
• 38:42
  - Really?
• 38:42
  - All real.
• 38:43
  - That was in tulips, planet.
• 38:45
  - Love that.
• 38:46
  - Yeah.
• 38:46
  - Love that.
• 38:47
  - Yeah.
• 38:48
  - So we're gonna pop that.
• 38:49
  And I think that includes our look at
• 38:52
  the Hallmark Cinematic Universe.
• 38:54
  What do we say, the Mean Girls Cinematic Universe?
• 38:57
  The Wicked.
• 38:58
  - The Wicked.
• 38:59
  - The Sexy Sentience Snowman.
• 39:00
  - The Sexy Sentience Snowman.
• 39:01
  We'll never get over those.
• 39:02
  - Yeah.
• 39:03
  - Yeah, chocolate, butter, and cheese.
• 39:05
  - We talk a lot about abs.
• 39:06
  - Yeah.
• 39:07
  - Well, I love it.
• 39:08
  Netflix.
• 39:09
  - It's what we like.
• 39:10
  - Netflix.
• 39:11
  - No, it's what we like.
• 39:11
  - Yeah.
• 39:12
  - For free.
• 39:13
  - Oh my gosh.
• 39:14
  Okay.
• 39:15
  On this note, I will say.
• 39:16
  - On the note of being horny.
• 39:18
  - No, I'm not a being horny.
• 39:19
  - But if you ever looked at someone's Netflix,
• 39:22
  for the first time and you're like,
• 39:24
  I feel like I'm seeing into their soul.
• 39:27
  - Ooh, no, but I guess I could see that.
• 39:28
  Like if somebody saw my Netflix and was like,
• 39:31
  bitch, how many times have you watched
• 39:33
  Buffy the Vampires are?
• 39:34
  - Yeah.
• 39:34
  - Yeah.
• 39:35
  - Stop it.
• 39:36
  - So I once had a boyfriend.
• 39:38
  - No, God.
• 39:40
  - I fell asleep and just like passed out
• 39:42
  and he was trying to find something on Netflix.
• 39:44
  And I woke up in the morning and he was like,
• 39:47
  he was like the amount of like true crime and more.
• 39:50
  Like, are you doing okay?
• 39:52
  - Are you doing okay?
• 39:52
  - No.
• 39:53
  - No.
• 39:54
  And I had that moment this weekend.
• 39:56
  And I was like, this feels like I'm really seeing
• 39:58
  into someone's soul.
• 40:00
  And I don't know about that.
• 40:02
  - If you go through to somebody's like HBO history,
• 40:04
  I feel like that'd be worse.
• 40:05
  - Yeah.
• 40:06
  - It's like softcore, softcore, softcore, softcore.
• 40:08
  - Oh, we know Shana's.
• 40:09
  - Softcore.
• 40:11
  - Softcore Shana.
• 40:12
  - I like it when I kiss a little bit.
• 40:13
  - I just want him to kiss and be alive.
• 40:17
  (laughing)
• 40:19
  - No last time I did that was in a hotel room
• 40:21
  because it was there.
• 40:22
  No one else was around and it was really dumb.
• 40:24
  - No.
• 40:25
  - And you watched it.
• 40:26
  - It was a better than Hot Frosty.
• 40:28
  - No.
• 40:29
  - No.
• 40:30
  - Hot Frosty was better.
• 40:31
  - Okay.
• 40:32
  - This was a lot of just rubbing thighs.
• 40:34
  - No.
• 40:35
  - Anyway, we want to, we want to, on that note,
• 40:37
  we want to wish Shana everyone out there
• 40:39
  the happiest of all the days.
• 40:41
  And I'm right, Shanae, New Year.
• 40:44
  Happy Christmas on a quenzyka, everybody.
• 40:46
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• 40:48
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• 40:50
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• 40:53
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• 40:58
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• 41:01
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