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Nick Fuentes vs Piers Morgan | Full Analysis America Unfiltered #169 · America Unfiltered With James P

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America Unfiltered. We got a great show for you
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guys. Today we have the Piers Morgan
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and Nick Fuentes interview. It's happening actually right
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now. So we're going to be doing a
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But with that, I do want to bring you guys right into the
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show. Like I said, we're going to be
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doing a live reaction to the Piers Morgan and Nicholas J
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Fuentes interview. I'm expecting it to be more
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contentious than most of the interviews.
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I don't really think Piers Morgan is the most genuine
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person. I think he has a very odd debate
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style and I'm very excited to see this.
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I honestly think this will be a total griper victory for Nick
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Fuentes. This is not only pushing him
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further into the mainstream, but we're most likely going to see
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him dismantle Piers Morgan's talking points because they're
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going to come at him with all the usual stuff.
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I'd imagine you're an anti semite.
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You're this, you're that, You're this.
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But realistically, Nick is somebody who does not have hate
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in his heart. He is just a heavy critic of
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Israel, heavy critic of lobbying and the government itself.
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And these are all things we should be able to criticize.
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I mean, this is America. If you're not criticizing your
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government, you're doing it wrong.
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So we're going to watch this interview today.
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We're going to see how it goes with that.
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Let's get right into it. I got it pulled up right here.
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You're a New York Times reader, an NPR fan and Daily Wire
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subscriber. Or now be consumer of all
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things, Tucker Carlson. For several months now, there's
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been no avoiding the subject of Nick Fuentes.
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And let's be clear, the main reason you're hearing about him
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is because he's popular. A large number of people,
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especially young men, are interested in what he has to
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say. What that says about our society
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and our culture is the subject of ferocious debate.
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For many people, it's a grave indictment of an insidious
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immorality. For others, he's a product of a
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culture which has turned on its own and left many young people
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feeling listless and bitter. He's either a litmus test for
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right wing hypocrisy on free speech or a walking, talking
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manifestation of where the line should be drawn.
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And a frankly preposterous amount of airtime has been spent
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on debating everything from his ideology to his sexuality and
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whether anyone should actually talk to him at all.
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If I were writing a glossary entry on the Streisand Effect, I
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wouldn't put a picture of her next to it.
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I would put a picture of Nick Fuentes.
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They have opted to not do so when it comes to Nazis like Nick
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Fuentes. Fuentes takes this guy apart
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brick by brick. It's a full takedown.
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My concern is that people who are a bit more moderate are
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deeply alarmed by Nick Fuentes. I was very happy to see that
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like Nick Fuentes really passed that test with flying colors,
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That fragmentation is being caused purposefully by a
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splinter fashion of people led by a young man named Nick
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Fuentes. That's the war.
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Can you get the? Just real quick, I just want to
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remind everyone we did our Retard of the Year ceremony the
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other day. Nick Fuentes dismantled a lot of
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these people. Ben Shapiro refuses to debate
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Nick Fuentes and Ben Shapiro got the number one spot as the
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number one retard of 2025. I just saw this clip so I felt
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like I should remind everyone. The beef prices down.
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Not crazy things that Nick Fuentes or these other loons say
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on social media. Well, it looks like all these
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screaming about Nick Fuentes on the Internet is finally dying
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down a little bit. But now we had on this guy, this
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Fuentes guy and never challenged him.
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You should have Nick Fuentes on your show and you could ask him
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questions about that. The truth is, it doesn't make a
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lot of sense to spend all this time talking about Nick Fuentes,
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but not actually to Nick Fuentes.
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People who say you shouldn't give him a platform overlook the
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very obvious fact that he already has a platform of his
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own, which is often bigger than most of the people complaining,
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and he uses it to speak unchallenged to his many
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followers. It's on that basis I've invited
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him to appear live and uncensored on my platform, and
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Nick Fuentes joins me now. Nick Fuentes, welcome to.
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I agree to be with you. I don't know you.
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I don't think we've ever met. You can correct me if that's
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wrong. I know.
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I just want to say he's already mogging Piers just to start
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already mogging. I know that increasingly people
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are talking about you in a more mainstream environment than you
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may be used to. So for those of you know nothing
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about Nick Fuentes, I want this to be an opportunity to get to
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the real person. I don't know who that person is,
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but I do want to use this opportunity to get there.
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I've seen you talk as we prepared for this, in exchanges
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with people and on your show, saying if you fear it's going to
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be very hostile, it's going to be an ambush, all those kind of
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things. I don't intend it to be overtly
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hostile. I don't intend to ambush you.
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I intend it to be an examination of what you said on the record,
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an examination of what you believe or what you say you
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believe, and an examination of what your rising popularity says
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about the state of the conservative movement in
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America. So those are my goals from this
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interview. What are your goals?
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Why are you doing it? I thought it'd be interesting
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and you know, you've talked a lot about me on your show over
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the years and this is the first time you've actually extended
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the invitation. I think it might be the second
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actually. I think we we talked about doing
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it during a 24 a few years ago. But you've talked a lot about me
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with the panel and now you've extended the invitation to talk
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to me. And I think it'd be interesting
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for me to maybe clarify some positions and maybe get to know
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you a little better as well. So I'm looking forward to it.
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There is a belief that you have two personas.
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There's one that you roll out now for podcasts and for shows
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like mine, what you come across as reasonable.
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And then there's your show on Rumble where you often come
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across as having, you know, a very unreasonable view on
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things. This is what Coleman Hughes said
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about you. Nick Fuentes knows exactly what
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he's doing. He is consciously playing this
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double game as part of a long. I just want when everyone's
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watching clips like this, pay attention to what's up in the
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corner there where it says the Free Press.
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Who owns the Free Press? It was bought by David Ellison.
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Who did he put in charge of it? Barry Weiss.
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David Ellison is the son of Larry Ellison, the person who
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runs Oracle, who bought TikTok and censored everyone
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criticizing Israel. Both heavy Zionists, the biggest
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donor to the IDF in the United States.
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And then Barry Weiss is just a spy bitch.
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So she she is literally an Israeli spy.
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Long term strategy to become popular enough to take the reins
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of power, at which point he plans to pivot towards the
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extreme and unpopular policies that he advocates daily on
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Rumble. So first of all, what is your
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response to that? Well, first of all, I would say
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that Goldman Hughes is a propagandist.
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He works for the Free Press, which is run by Barry Weiss.
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So I think that's based. You have to consider the source
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and Barry Weiss is a pro Israel partisan.
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Free Press is just bought out by CBS for $150 million by Larry
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Ellison or his son David Ellison.
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And so I think that's coming from a particular point of view.
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We can't pretend like that's coming from a vacuum or from
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some fixed position. That's coming from a propaganda
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outlet that's in favor of Israel.
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That's first. But second, I would say he is
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right about the two personas. And I think that everybody
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understands this on some level. On my show, I make jokes and I
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use rhetoric and I'm hyperbolic because for a long time I had an
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audience that was small on these like dissident platforms.
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I was on D Live for many years. A lot of people don't even know
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what that is. And so I had a small following
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and we had sort of like an in Group sense of humor and memes
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and things like that. And you talk about it one way on
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a freewheeling live stream when I'm by myself and I'm ranting
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and we make jokes and we play devil's advocate.
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We play with different positions.
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But then when you sit down in an interview like this one and
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people ask me a good faith question, what do you actually
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believe? Well, then I clarify and I say,
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well, here, I'm not joking here. I'm not being hyperbolic.
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I'm not being rhetorical. I'll tell you precisely what I
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believe. As far as this idea that I'm
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going to get power and then turn into Hitler, that just sounds
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totally insane to me. I'll be honest, it just sounds
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insane. Do you have aspirations for
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political power? Not really.
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I think that if I wanted to run for office, I wouldn't say a lot
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of the things that I say. I don't know that a lot of
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people would vote for me. I tend to offend everybody, even
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a lot of people that like me. So no, I'm a truth teller.
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I like to tell the truth. I like to do my live stream.
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Who is Nick Fuentes? Tell me about your upbringing.
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I know you grew up in in the suburbs of Chicago.
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Tell me about your early years. Early how like my childhood or a
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little? Bit late.
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Well, I grew up in the suburbs of Chicago and LaGrange Park.
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As you say, my parents are ethnics.
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You know, my father's half Mexican, half Irish, my mother's
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Italian. And they both came from a pretty
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rough upbringing themselves. They both were raised by single
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mothers, not because of divorce, but because both of their
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fathers had died. They endured a lot of
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dysfunction. And I think that's one of the
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reasons they came together and they related to each other and
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they wanted to create a normal upbringing for their children.
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They wanted to have a normal family life, and so they moved
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out to LaGrange Park away from the city, and they raised me and
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my sister and really put us first.
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I think that's a big reason why I tend to have a lot of these
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family values or Christian values.
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My mother quit her job and stayed at home to raise us.
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And so I have very close relationship with my parents,
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with my sister. We're a very tight family and we
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grew up in a pretty idyllic town, and maybe we can sort of
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get into a conversation about politics from this.
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I love my upbringing. My mom stayed at home, my dad
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was working. We're in a mostly white suburb
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in Chicago. Everybody was, I was maybe half
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Catholic, half Protestant. It was a baseball town.
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I played baseball for many years in Chicago.
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We love our hot dogs. We have our baseball parade and
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get a hot dog. And so I love where I came from.
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I love the city. It's a working class city.
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I love the people here. They're very good, humble, down
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to earth, decent people. And I guess I had my political,
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not to jump ahead, but this is a big part of where my political
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awakening came from. I sort of left this bubble, if
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you could call it that, when I went to College in 2016.
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I went to Boston University and I read a lot of things online
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and I realized the country does not look like LaGrange Park.
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It doesn't look like Western Springs or Hinsdale or Elmhurst.
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It looks very different. The country's undergoing A
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radical transformation because of immigration.
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And so I saw that and I said this is not really a desirable
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change. I don't like the South Side of
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Chicago or the West Side or LA or certain parts of Boston as
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much as I like where I came from.
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And I guess that's what made me an American nationalist.
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I said I want to preserve my home and the things that are
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familiar to me and the things I like about my home, what makes
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it America. So that's a little bit about my
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background. I don't know where you want to
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go with that, but. My first, my first obvious
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question is, were your parents immigrants to the United States
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or were their parents or were their grandparents?
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In other words, at some stage, I presume that there were
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immigrants in your family who came to the US.
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Is that correct? There were, there were.
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I believe my mother was 4th generation and my father was
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third generation. So their ancestors came here on
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my mom's side in the 1860s. I believe the first wave of
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Italian immigration. My father's ancestors, I think
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they came around the turn of the century in 1900.
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So, so your view of immigration and we'll get to the specifics
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about your views on immigration are, are they not affected at
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all by the fact that if it wasn't for immigration, you
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wouldn't exist as an American? It's the most retarded question.
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It is so fucking dumb. Oh my Lord.
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I mean when you look at the immigration patterns, first of
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all, Europeans, mainly Italians, Iris, stuff like that.
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Like they're not third fucking world.
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There's a massive difference between mass importing Haitians,
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Somalians, all these shit third world countries versus the
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people who literally built all the biggest cities and
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assimilated into America. I mean, Italians assimilate into
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America, Irish people assimilate into America, Most Europeans
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assimilated well into America. Do the Somalians and Haitians
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assimilate? Well did I?
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Did I miss where they started assimilating?
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Because I haven't seen that. Stupid fucking question, Piers.
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Well, I would certainly exist, but like you said, maybe not as
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an American. Certainly, certainly that's
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influenced in some measure. But I think that the kind of
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immigration that we had for a long time in the country, it's
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different than the immigration that we have now.
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And let's just say for openers, it's different immigrants.
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They're coming from a different place with a different culture,
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a different religion. It's not the same as it was.
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So first, you have a qualitative difference.
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My ancestors, for the most part, I have three European
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grandparents from Ireland and Italy, one from Mexico.
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They came from Europe. They came from a society where
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there's a common ancestry, there's a common religion,
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common civilization. The people that have come in
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since 65, since hard seller, they're coming from China,
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India, the Northern Triangle, Mexico, Venezuela.
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And so first, they're just different people.
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Secondly, it's a quantitative difference.
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There's way more and it's an unceasing, always increasing
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wave. For the first three or four ways
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of immigration, you would have a major influx of immigrants and
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then it would stop and they'd have another wave and then it
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would stop. This one, it just keeps going up
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for 35 years and it's too many. So that that's really where I
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would draw the distinction between maybe where I originate
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from. I would even just simply call
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that immigration. What this is, is an invasion.
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It's a completely different policy.
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But you mentioned, but you mentioned Mexico in that list
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and your father is, is half Mexican.
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So yeah, I mean, by your criteria, part of the invasion
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would include your father, presumably, and his immediate
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descendants who came from Mexico.
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Not really true because when my father's ancestors came here it
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was a small fraction of the total immigrants that came from
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Mexico. I don't believe that we should
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have 0 immigrants forever or even 0 immigrants from non white
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countries. But you have to draw the
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distinction. My my father's father he was
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here in the in the 40s and 50s. It was his parents or I believe
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either his parents or grandparents that came here even
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earlier. Up until 1960, five, 90% of the
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immigrants were coming from Europe.
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I have no problem with that. If we have 10% of them coming
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from Mexico or Latin America, maybe that's reasonable, but
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that's not what it is now. Now you've got 10 million
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illegals in four years under Joe Biden and you got millions more
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legal immigrants from China, India, Venezuela, El Salvador
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and it's so many with no break for assimilation and they're all
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from non white countries. It's transforming what America
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is and and again, that's the distinction.
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That's what makes it unacceptable.
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I, I always believe everybody's a product of their environment,
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right? I've interviewed thousands of
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people. I dreamt, I mean maybe 345000
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people from all different walks of life.
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But the one common theme I would say is everyone's a product of
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their environment. And I, I was reading some stuff
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about you in the last few days. There was an episode of of your
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podcast where you talked about your father Bill Fluentes and
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how he wouldn't take the family, including you to certain
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restaurants because he believed they were associated with
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African Americans. We will be deciding where to go
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to eat. He said, what are we going to do
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for dinner tonight? It was a running joke.
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Me and my sister would say Applebee's and my dad would say
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we would never eat at Applebee's.
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Not in a million years. Should you be caught dead.
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When to say about Applebee's? Go to a different restaurant, a
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local restaurant. No Applebee's, no Red Lobster
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that is commonly known as black fare.
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And you also share another story about your family and
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restaurants said before me and my sister were born, my family
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had a saying about Olive Garden that contains the N word that
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we're not allowed to say. So my question.
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Is he attacking his family? Let's see where this goes
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because that's that's fucking crazy.
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If he's doing that, you. Know based on that anecdote that
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you say on your own podcast is do you think you grew up in a
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racist environment, that your father was inherently racist and
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that that thought process moved to you?
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Well, I would say it's a new low.
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I I've been attacked for being a racist many times, but to attack
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my father to attack my parents? Based on anecdotes, I would say
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that's. Oh, it's your.
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Hang on, it's your anecdote. Yeah, but he's not here to
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defend himself. You are and my parents aren't
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you. You told the story, and I will.
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And I and I I'm not. Trying to ambush you, as I said
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to the start, Nick to be. Clear No, it's not an ambush.
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To be clear, I'm not. I'm not ambushing you.
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I'm literally reading an anecdote that you revealed on
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your podcast. It's you that's put it in the
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public domain. I know.
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I'm simply asking you whether my assessment of that, which is
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your father didn't want to take you to certain restaurants
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because of what you refer to as they were commonly known as
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black fair. Whether that attitude to African
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Americans in that instance permeated to you, it's a
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reasonable question. Yeah, no, like I said, I think
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everybody knows what that is, but I'll address it, I'll engage
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with it, and I'll defend my father from the charge of
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racism. My parents, my parents are not
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racist, and they've never been racist.
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I'll tell you about my parents. They used to have a school in
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Chicago in the South Loop, where they instructed people on how to
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shoot firearms. It was a security school, and
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most of the clients were black. And I believe actually one of
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their clients was Larry Hoover's son at one point, sort of a
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funny story. And so most of their clients
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would come in from the South Side of Chicago.
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My grandmother, she grew up in the projects in the city.
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And so my family being in Chicago, being ethnics, being
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Italian, Irish, Mexican, on the West side, on Taylor St. all
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over the city. My family for many generations
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have lived near and around black people.
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And look, my views about Black people and their views about
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Black people are shaped with experiences with Black people.
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And, and what they will tell you, what my parents would say
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if they were here is that for many, many years, the older
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generations of Black people we're very respectful, very
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humble, very decent. In fact, my grandma used to have
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an anecdote. She grew up in a lot of
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dysfunction. Her mother was mentally ill.
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And they would be having dinner in the projects and there'd be
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so much chaos and dysfunction and disagreement and fighting.
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And she would look across the way out the window at a black
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family in the other apartment and they'd be holding hands
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around the table saying grace. And this is sort of the culture
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that used to prevail. But now what you have in the
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city is that there's no accountability for the Black
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people. And now Chicago has become a
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complete dump because these teenagers go out and they take
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over the city. They call them teen takeovers.
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That's the euphemism for it. They're teenagers, but they all
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come from the same neighborhood. They drive up there and they mug
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people and attack people and they destroy cars and destroy
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shops. We had the Festival of Lights a
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couple of weeks ago. It's supposed to be a family
17:27
event. And they light up the trees and
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they, you know, there's a big parade.
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I was in the parade one year and you had a a bunch of black
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people there shooting each other.
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Seven people shot a 14 year old killed in the Magnificent Mile.
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And, and I know there's a lot of black people that feel the same
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way about this. They say we've lost control of
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the city when we're looking for accountability.
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We have a lot of black people that are always outraged about
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racism, outraged about attitudes from white people, but they're
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never ashamed of some of these behaviors, never ashamed of some
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of the things that go on. And that's why I think there's a
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lot of negative attitudes these days.
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And so, you know, again, I think those attitudes, you say I'm a
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product of my environment. I, I am.
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And so are my parents and my grandparents, unlike you, 'cause
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you're not even American. In Chicago, we have to live in
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a, in a big diverse city where there's a lot of different kinds
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of people. And I don't think anybody in
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Chicago. Tell you the same, I live in, I
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live in London. It's one of the most of the
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biggest and most diverse cities in the world.
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But it's not the same. Well, actually it's it's a big
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diversity. The only difference is we don't
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have the gun violence. We have guns.
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That's a whole different story. I don't get into that with you.
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I have got into that before. A problem he got Sword problems.
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We have, we have problems with Aladdin, we have problems with
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violent crime. I make no pretense of it.
18:30
So the idea that somehow I'm cosseted in London because I'm
18:33
not, I should say that. Well, you kind of implied a bit,
18:35
I guess my point about the environment.
18:36
I'm not saying you are a product of your environment.
18:38
I'm saying most people are in some capacity.
18:41
When I read that anecdote, it's just to remind you it's, it's
18:43
not something I have put out there.
18:45
You told this story, right? And you said that he.
18:48
Said this. We're looping.
18:49
He said this. No, but you haven't really
18:51
directly I think responded to it, which is whether your father
18:54
would not take you to certain restaurant chains because he
18:57
associated associated them with black Americans.
18:59
Is that true? Well, see here if you're in
19:02
America, you would say that Olive Garden is not real Italian
19:05
food. Applebee's tgi Friday's and
19:07
stuff is a load of crap. My dad was just a food stop.
19:09
But no, it's got nothing to do with that.
19:10
My best friend in first grade was a black guy.
19:12
We are not. We're not a racist family.
19:13
So. OK.
19:14
So when you told the story, I'm just curious.
19:15
So when you told that anecdote, which clearly on the face of it
19:18
is racist, right, you're, you're basically saying your father
19:22
made racist decisions about where you would go as a family
19:24
to eat. Are you saying, well, I'm just
19:26
going to ask you a question. Are you saying that when you
19:28
told that story, you didn't mean to infer that he was racist?
19:32
And do you understand why, when somebody like me reads that
19:35
anecdote for the first time, as I did this week, I reach a
19:38
different conclusion? Well, I understand what you're
19:41
doing, which is the sort of making of a murderer.
19:42
How did he become racist? Well, his father didn't lead a
19:44
leader because. He said that's.
19:46
Not real Italian food. Hang on, can I?
19:48
I'm literally, I'm literally reminding you of something you
19:51
said on your show which led. Me to which led me to conclude.
19:55
A certain thing I'm wrong tell. Me.
19:56
Yeah. It was said in jest, as a
19:57
humorous anecdote, and now you're trying to spin into a
19:59
narrative, which is his parents are racist, he comes from a long
20:02
line, a racist. And I think everybody knows our
20:05
parents. My parents are boomers.
20:07
And these people, well, you're a boomer, I guess, too.
20:09
And in a way, right. You were born in Watch 19.
20:11
Yeah. So you're a boomer also.
20:12
Or maybe you're a Gen. Xer.
20:13
I suppose it's sort of on the cost, but it's a humorous
20:16
anecdote. These are kind of the attitudes
20:17
of baby boomers in society. But you're trying to spin it
20:19
into a narrative, which is you're a product of your
20:22
environment. Your dad's racist because of
20:23
this joke, now you're a racist. And I don't think that's a fair
20:26
characterization. OK, people can make their own
20:27
minds up. They can, they can go back and
20:29
listen to you say it. I mean, the, the beauty of what
20:31
I'm going to talk to you about in this interview is.
20:33
I think bringing up his family in the 1st place was ridiculous.
20:36
That's what I was trying to say originally.
20:37
Like is he attacking his family? And it seems like he kind of is.
20:41
That's fucked up. I mean, his family's not there
20:44
to defend themselves. It's him there.
20:46
If you want to go at somebody, go at him.
20:48
That's ridiculous to bring up his family.
20:51
Almost all of it is just going to be reminding you what you
20:54
have said and asking you what you meant.
20:56
Your position about that story is that it was a joke.
20:58
OK, I want to come to to something else you said.
21:02
This is where you talk about Jews, women and blacks.
21:05
Let's just take a listen. They're always coming up with
21:09
no, it's not the Jews. No, it's not women, no, it's not
21:12
blacks. It's actually really
21:13
complicated. No it fucking isn't at all.
21:16
Jews are running society, women need to shut the fuck up, blacks
21:20
need to be imprisoned for the most part and we would live in
21:23
paradise. It's that simple.
21:26
Future emperor, I'll send the army like, is he wrong?
21:32
OK. Would you like to clarify what
21:35
you meant there? That's all true.
21:37
That's 100% true. Everything I said in that clip
21:40
is true. Doubling down, let's go, let's
21:43
go. Never back down, never
21:45
surrender, never fold under pressure, always double down.
21:48
Let's go. Based.
21:50
Huge W right there for Nick. Including that blacks need to be
21:54
imprisoned for the most part. Yeah, yes.
21:58
But all of them? No, for the most part.
22:01
What does the most part mean? What percentage of American
22:03
blacks would you like to see in prison?
22:05
Whatever the percentages of the murderers, I think it's one in
22:07
20 black men will commit a murder in their lifetime.
22:10
So maybe let's say that 5%. Oh, so you're talking about
22:12
black people who murder people? Yeah.
22:15
Oh, absolutely, yeah. You didn't say that, you just
22:17
said blacks need to be imprisoned.
22:18
Shut up here you. Didn't clarify that you were
22:21
talking about black murderers. Right, Right.
22:23
No, you're right. That's a good addition to that.
22:25
That's a great point. You think it's?
22:27
You think it's funny or? I think yeah, I do.
22:29
I think it's hilarious. I think it's totally true.
22:31
Do you think a black American would find it funny?
22:32
You think that that blacks should be imprisoned for the
22:34
most part? Blacks are my biggest fans.
22:37
I get high fives all the time. They say, Nick Fuentes, I love
22:39
your show. They agree with me.
22:41
And you want to know why? Here's the difference.
22:43
Black people are the most victimized by other black
22:45
people. You think black people want to
22:47
live in the hood, in the ghetto and get shot all the time?
22:48
That's what happens in the South Side of Chicago.
22:50
You should come here. I'll take you there.
22:51
We could go to Garfield Park. I went to Chicago University for
22:54
a year, actually several years ago.
22:55
Yeah, that's a bubble. That's a bubble.
22:57
You think you're in Chicago, in Hyde Park.
22:58
You don't know Chicago. Go a little bit W see what it's
23:00
like over there. And I'll tell you, black people
23:02
agree with me because they're tired of it, too.
23:04
And maybe not most of them, but a lot of them agree with what I
23:06
say about that because they know how it is.
23:07
That's why the first thing they do when they make a little bit
23:09
of money is they go and leave to another neighborhood.
23:11
OK, So what was it? Just remind me again the
23:12
percentage of black men who commit murder in America?
23:16
What was the percentage you gave me?
23:17
It's. One in 21 in 20.
23:18
It's it's one in 100. No, it's one in 20.
23:22
No, no less than one in 100 black US men commit murder.
23:25
That's the most up to date crime statistics in America.
23:27
That's not true. I've I've seen other statistics,
23:29
they say one in 20 will eventually commit a murder.
23:31
Your your rate means that you're, you're saying that five
23:33
times as many black men commit murder as the official crime
23:36
statistics say. Yeah, there's a report I believe
23:39
on X by data hazard. I'll have to go and double check
23:41
that for you. But yes, there's some pretty
23:43
shocking evidence that says that.
23:44
It's far more alarming than you would think.
23:46
OK. But you you would accept that
23:47
the official crime statistics are one in 100 or you wouldn't
23:50
accept that statistic? I don't know.
23:52
I don't have it in front of me, but I've seen other evidence.
23:54
Like I said, data hazard on XI Believe produced a report about
23:56
a year ago. It said one in 20.
23:58
But I mean, whether it's one in 20 or one in 100, that's a lot
24:00
of people, Piers, I mean this. Is a lot of white people commit
24:02
murder too? OK.
24:05
But it's about it's about proportionality.
24:07
I mean, white people are 65% of the population, Blacks are 13%.
24:10
And I think anybody would tell you that more black people
24:12
proportionally commit violent crime than white people.
24:15
And people vote with their feet. People would rather.
24:16
Pay much more property tax. What's with the interruptions?
24:20
I'm sorry. Thank you.
24:21
I appreciate. Did he just go the most mass
24:23
shootings? Oh I hate that because again
24:26
they take out all gang shootings when when they when they do the
24:30
mass shooting stat. It doesn't include gang violence
24:33
and gang shootings which is the majority of mass shootings and
24:36
school shootings. Pierce is a disingenuous cunt
24:40
sometimes. That, you know, you look at in
24:42
Chicago, in New York, these neighborhoods are so stratified.
24:46
People would rather pay a high tax rate.
24:47
They'd rather pay a much higher property value to live in a less
24:50
diverse, less black neighborhood because they don't want to live
24:52
around the violence. And I think that when you look
24:54
at even on the public transit, the subway, the blue line, you
24:56
know, people don't want to go there because they know who
24:58
occupies and menaces the public transit.
25:01
It is these people like Daniel Penny had to deal with.
25:03
It's people like Arena Zarutska had to deal with.
25:05
And and that's just the uncomfortable reality.
25:07
You've also said you don't want to live near black people.
25:11
Let's take a listen to this clip.
25:12
Nothing. Wrong.
25:13
I'm a new generation of white person.
25:15
I'm not living around blacks. Sorry.
25:18
You know I want white kids and I don't want my white kids
25:21
bringing home black people to marry.
25:24
It's racial for me. And call me racist.
25:27
Oh very Christian to you. I don't give a fuck.
25:30
I mean, it couldn't be clearer really, unless you want to say
25:33
that's another of your jokes, but you're basically saying,
25:35
yeah, I'm a racist, aren't you? Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that.
25:40
You're fine with saying you're a racist?
25:42
Totally. I think everybody's racist.
25:44
I think everybody, if we're being honest, is racist.
25:46
I think everybody, the only people that aren't racist or or
25:49
pretend not to be are white people to their detriment.
25:51
Everybody else is racist. Earlier in the interview, you
25:53
you went really got aggrieved that the idea that your father
25:56
was a racist you you wanted to make him.
25:58
Because my father's. Because.
26:00
My father doesn't share my same views on that so.
26:02
He's the exception to the Everyone's a racist.
26:05
Well, everybody's a little bit racist, you're right.
26:06
So maybe everybody. The difference is you're
26:08
attacking my father. You know he can't.
26:09
Get far from his job. I'm not attacking your father.
26:11
You are. No, I'm not.
26:12
I don't know your father. And to be clear, I I have no
26:14
knowledge about him at all other well.
26:16
Then let's leave him out of it. Let's leave him out of it.
26:17
If you. Don't know him?
26:18
Hang on, Nick. You put that story into the
26:20
public domain on your show. I'm simply reminding you of what
26:24
you told everybody, millions of people, about your father.
26:27
If you now want to retract it, fine.
26:29
If you want to say it was a joke, which is what your
26:31
position was earlier, fine. But I'm allowed to put to you
26:34
things you've said publicly. That's not unfair.
26:36
Let's not be targeting your father.
26:37
You put that story about him. You know what you're doing.
26:40
You know what? I'm asking you about a pretty
26:41
shocking anecdote, which to me, like you were saying, your
26:44
father made decisions about where you as a family would eat
26:49
of people who worked at these places if you say or use them.
26:52
If you say that is not what you meant, that's fine, you can
26:55
respond anywhere you like. But the idea I can't ask you
26:57
about it without you saying I'm attacking your father is
27:00
ridiculous. Well, you are, and you know what
27:03
you're doing. And there's a political culture
27:05
in America where if you have the wrong views, you get fired from
27:07
your job. And my father has a job.
27:09
And if you go on here and say charge him with racism or
27:12
something, and I'm put in a position where I don't look like
27:14
I'm sticking to my guns, if I don't say my father's a racist,
27:17
you're putting him in jeopardy. And he's not here to defend
27:19
himself or explain his views. And it's very low.
27:21
And, and I think you know exactly what you're doing and
27:23
people can see what you're doing.
27:24
I'll defend my views. And I think that, you know, so
27:27
let's leave him out of it. Let's just not talk about my
27:29
father because my father isn't here.
27:30
I'm here. Well.
27:31
Then do you say you shouldn't talk?
27:32
To any anyone listen. That's fine, but then do you
27:34
accept you shouldn't talk about your father on your show and you
27:36
shouldn't tell? Absolutely not.
27:38
Absolutely not so. It's fine for you to put a story
27:39
out there which would make most people who listen to that story
27:43
or watched it at the time on your show conclude that he was
27:46
racist. It's fine for you to do that.
27:48
But if I then ask you about it, I'm the one who's being unfair
27:52
and I've crossed the line. Is that what you're saying?
27:53
Yes, yes, you're being malicious.
27:55
OK, that's fine. That's fine.
27:56
Listen, people are watching this live.
27:58
They can draw their own conclusions about whether what I
28:00
just did. Yeah.
28:01
And I'm sure we're asked to us. By the way, you'll say he
28:03
ambushed me with your own, with your own words.
28:06
With their own words. That's a little presumptuous.
28:09
I'm not going to say it's an ambush, but I think that's a low
28:11
blow. And I think you know what you're
28:12
doing, and that's fine. You're a tabloid journalist.
28:14
I expected that. I don't think it's an ambush
28:16
because I knew it would be like this.
28:17
And people will see what you're doing, and I think they'll say
28:19
it's low. But as far as you want to talk
28:20
about racism, I do. Let's talk about racism.
28:22
Let's leave that on that look you've omitted.
28:24
You're a racist. Correct.
28:26
Yes, I understand. OK, own it.
28:28
OK, that's fine. You're perfectly entitled.
28:30
That little smirk right there, that's perfect.
28:34
In a free democratic society, to stare down the barrel of his
28:36
camera and tell me you're racist, people can judge you
28:38
accordingly. Many people, many people who
28:41
have assumed that you're racist will now have heard it from your
28:43
own lips. That's fine.
28:44
There you go, that's the point. The point of this interview is
28:47
to go over the things you said which have LED people to reach
28:50
conclusions about you, and to ascertain whether those
28:52
conclusions are fair and reasonable or not.
28:55
That's it. So I want to play you another
28:56
clip. This is what you talk about why
28:58
white people are justified in being racist.
28:59
Let's take a listen to this. First, white people are every
29:04
single bit justified in being racist.
29:07
Every single bit justified, to the extent that that means going
29:11
out of your way to avoid black people when you see them.
29:15
Can you stand by? That absolutely, Absolutely,
29:17
absolutely. If I have good pattern
29:21
recognition and I understand the crime stats the way I do, it's
29:26
not even like like you could make an argument that it's being
29:29
racist, but I would make the argument that you're even just
29:31
being smart. Like you care about your life,
29:33
you care about living, you care about not getting assaulted, you
29:36
care about not getting robbed, you care about protecting your
29:38
family. And again, it's not saying they
29:40
all would, but statistically it is way more likely Tony Soprano
29:45
was right about some of these things.
29:48
So white people should go out of their way to avoid black people
29:51
when they see them. Absolutely they would be wise.
29:55
Why? Because it's a lose, lose
29:58
proposition. If you're Irena Zarutska and you
30:00
don't walk the other way, you get stabbed to death and you
30:02
die. If you're somebody else and you
30:05
walk on the subway and you stand, you're a black person or
30:08
something, maybe it's fine. It's a lose, lose proposition.
30:11
So no, I, I think that white people, I think that white
30:14
people have been beaten into submission, that we're afraid to
30:17
tell the truth about it. And the truth is that when you
30:19
go into these major cities like New York or Chicago, I believe
30:22
she was in North Carolina, there is a menace, which is young
30:25
black adolescent men. They're extremely violent.
30:28
And we have been told that we have to pretend like they are
30:31
every other person. We have to be color blind to
30:33
that. And we're supposed to go and,
30:35
and be in the midst of all this danger.
30:37
And I think that at this point, it's gotten out of control.
30:40
You look at the BLM movement, they said that the reason that
30:42
black people, you know, are violent or the reason there's
30:44
crime is because of police brutality, the redlining or all
30:47
these other things. They said we need to get rid of
30:49
the police. We need to defund them.
30:50
And a lot of cities did. A lot of cities like Chicago,
30:52
for example, the police changed the rules of engagement.
30:54
They don't chase them. It's not a felony.
30:56
If you steal a certain amount of merchandise, they won't chase
30:58
them on foot. And now the city's totally up
30:59
for grabs. And now whether you're in the
31:01
Gold Coast or whether you're on the Mag Mile or you're in the
31:03
worst neighborhoods in the city, you might get shot, you might
31:05
get mugged, someone might run up on you.
31:07
And, and I tell my followers it is better to be perceived as
31:10
racist or racist and walk the other way and maybe keep your
31:14
life than to say I'm a good anti racist.
31:16
I don't mind that this person's making me uncomfortable.
31:18
Maybe he's looking a little froggy.
31:19
I'm going to sit down because I'm a good person and get
31:21
stabbed, mugged, whatever. And by the way, this is a
31:24
strategy they call it. I remember I literally said on
31:26
my show one day, if I see a black guy dressed like shit,
31:29
smelling like shit, hair looking all fucked up, eyes all crazy,
31:33
looks like he wants to kill someone that day, I'm going to
31:35
walk the other way. I'm not going to die that day.
31:38
And I got so much shit for it from some people.
31:40
And I'm like, what are you guys fucking talking about?
31:42
Do you see a guy who smells like shit, dressed like shit, looks
31:45
fucking crazy and sit next to him and be like, yeah, I'm just
31:48
going to like, you're fucking stupid if you do that.
31:50
Nick is 100% right about all this.
31:55
Let the friendly stranger. There's a crew of them.
31:57
They do this in Chicago. They stand outside bars, Black
32:00
people. They approach strangers.
32:01
It's a robbery crew. And they pretend to be a
32:03
friendly stranger. And then they mug them.
32:04
And stupid white people say, oh, hi, yeah, nice to meet you.
32:08
You know, they grin, they laugh. They put up with the nonsense.
32:10
And then they get mugged or worse.
32:12
Sometimes they get executed. And so, as a white person, how?
32:14
Do you feel? How do you feel about mass
32:15
shootings at school? I think they're bad.
32:20
Gang violence, again, the mass shootings at school statistic
32:23
does not include gang shootings, which is a lot of these school
32:28
shootings. Piers is so disingenuous.
32:32
Who do you think commits the vast majority of the mass
32:35
shootings? I'm sure it's white people.
32:36
Right. So how do you feel about that?
32:40
I think that white people do more anti social violence.
32:43
I think black people participate in more gang violence.
32:45
I think that's the difference. What's the difference to the
32:46
victims? There's no difference to the
32:50
victim, but it's a different kind of crime and it's a
32:51
different proportion. Also, do you know what
32:53
percentage of white people are school shooters?
32:55
I know that the vast majority of mass shootings in schools in
32:59
America this century were perpetrated by young white men.
33:02
And what proportion? I'm curious.
33:06
I'm curious, I'm curious whether your advice would be to people
33:09
who have kids. Should they, should they, should
33:12
they, should they avoid? Should they avoid white people
33:16
at school? Should people with the kids at
33:18
school avoid young white men? Yeah, they can do it badly, do
33:21
you know? Do you know what per capita
33:23
means? Do you know proportionality?
33:24
There are more black people proportionally than engage in
33:27
violent crime or involved in gangs, especially in these major
33:30
cities, than there are white people that are school shooters
33:33
compared to the entire white population.
33:34
And everybody understands that. Two 2/3 of mass shootings at
33:38
school perpetrated by white people.
33:40
Not what proportion. Of white men commit school
33:42
shootings, that's the question. I've just told you it's 60 to
33:45
65% of school. You're telling me what
33:47
proportion of school shootings are committed by white people?
33:49
I'm saying what proportion of white people have committed
33:51
school shootings? Are you playing dumb or are you
33:53
just not that? Far.
33:53
What's that to the to the children lying dead on the
33:55
ground? See, now you want to jump on the
33:58
victims. The difference is you're asking,
34:00
would you fear white people or black people?
34:03
And that's the difference. The.
34:04
Difference is that what I'm saying to you is by your ability
34:07
if if we now have agreed the vast majority of mass shootings
34:11
in schools are committed by white people.
34:14
Young white men, I think he is. Presumably your advice would be
34:17
to avoid young white men because you can't betray these
34:20
massacres. But it won't be because they're
34:22
white, right? So, so are you playing dumb or
34:25
are you actually dumb? It's about proportionality.
34:27
You are, you are because you're, well, I don't think you are
34:29
dumb. I think you're smart actually.
34:30
But you're deliberately avoiding per capita and everybody knows
34:33
that's the difference. What proportion of white men are
34:36
school shooters? It's probably .00000, 1%.
34:40
What proportion of black men have committed violent crimes?
34:42
It's probably like 5%. I guess.
34:44
I don't know what it is off the top of my head, but it's very
34:46
high. And I would add to that, even as
34:47
it concerns schools, why do you think parents pay a super high
34:51
property tax to live in a school district where there's white
34:53
people? Because they know that if they
34:55
go to the black school, it's going to be the Bloods and the
34:57
Crips. It's going to be gangs.
34:58
It's going to be, you know, you talk about school shootings.
35:00
Nobody talks about all the school shootings that are
35:03
committed by gang bangers in and around the school and all the
35:06
other violence that's associated with that.
35:07
I mean, these, these schools in the South Side of Chicago, you
35:10
know, it's just not. It's not only no one talks about
35:13
it, it's it's left out of the studies completely.
35:16
Like when they do those studies, they leave out all gang
35:19
shootings. They leave out every gang
35:21
shooting. It's Sarah Stock did an
35:23
incredible video about it. Hey.
35:26
Nick So the proportion of the population who carry out mass
35:30
shootings is actually the same? Of black and white for white
35:33
people, the proportion of not the proportion of.
35:36
Are you hearing it? No.
35:37
No. I think that's what your
35:38
statistics is. A lot of them don't bear much
35:40
scrutiny. We have a bunch of fact checkers
35:42
checking all this in real time. Because you do have a tendency
35:44
to just come out with an old baloney and when you say you
35:47
know, well it's true. And when you're confronting
35:49
with. Your when you're.
35:50
Confronting with reality. You don't like it?
35:53
What's the figure? What proportion of white people
35:55
have committed school shootings with white people as the
35:57
denominator and white people that have committed school
35:59
shootings as the numerator? What's that percentage?
36:01
For both black and whites, the proportion of the population who
36:03
carry out mass shootings generally is about the same.
36:07
No, no, tell me the number and then and then.
36:10
Yes, and yet you're only the only focus of your attention
36:13
and. Then he's retired.
36:14
Shootings, the black crime. You don't want to live around
36:17
black people. You want to avoid black people.
36:20
You don't want interracial marriages or relationships that
36:23
may produce black people. And yet when I point out to you
36:26
that there are many parts of crime in America where actually
36:28
there's a majority of white people that perpetrate them, you
36:31
don't care. You don't have any interest in
36:33
them. It doesn't exercise your mind.
36:35
Because you see, no one's buying this, this argument lost.
36:38
No one is buying this. Everybody understands per capita
36:40
and people can even see what you're you race ahead and say,
36:42
well, we're comparing the proportion of white and black
36:45
school shooters. I said, no, no, compare the
36:46
proportion of school shooters that are white versus violent
36:48
criminals that are black. Because that was the basis of
36:50
the monologue is that you're very likely if you encounter
36:52
black people or a young black man in the city, that you're
36:55
going to be the victim of a violent crime of a robbery, A
36:58
mugging, a car theft, a carjacking or a murder.
37:00
That's the difference. And it's about proportionality.
37:02
And everybody sees past that because we all live in reality.
37:05
You want to talk about product of your environment, people that
37:08
live in New York, Chicago, LA, we live in reality.
37:11
We live in this environment. We see what it's like.
37:12
And the threat, the danger in terms of probability is not,
37:16
it's not even comparable. And I would add, I would say
37:18
this to your point. If you're in the high school and
37:22
you and truly, if you see a white person who looks like a
37:24
little autistic, he's got the SSRI stare and he reaches for a
37:28
backpack, people joke and say run.
37:30
Similarly, if you see a jalopy pulling up with a bunch of black
37:33
people in it and they got their pants around the ankles, you're
37:35
going to run. Also, and I'm saying the same
37:37
thing, the difference is the latter happens much more often.
37:40
It's much more common. You know, in Chicago there's
37:42
like 10,000 carjackings and car thefts every day.
37:46
It's in the thousands. It happens all the time.
37:48
How many mass shootings committed by autistic SSRI white
37:52
people? I don't even know.
37:53
I mean, it's probably in the single digits in the last decade
37:55
in the city. That's the difference.
37:56
And everybody knows that. But you're, you're really just
37:58
trying to carry water for liberal ideology.
38:00
It's an ideological. No, no, I'm not.
38:02
I'm really not. I can absolutely say yes.
38:05
There is way too much black on black crime, for example
38:08
involving guns. Why also?
38:09
Yes, but there was way too much gun violence in Chicago, right?
38:13
I mean, it's it's indisputable. I've got no problem saying that.
38:16
The difference is I don't then lead myself into a thought
38:18
process where I have to avoid all black people in case they
38:21
shoot me. And you've already conceded that
38:24
you are a racist. So when people hear you then say
38:26
I don't want to be living anywhere near black people, they
38:29
already have heard you say I'm a racist.
38:31
So they. Pierce is trying is absolute.
38:33
Like The funny thing is Pierce is trying is absolute hardest
38:37
right now to dismantle Nick and Nick is just bitch slapping him.
38:42
I mean this is insane. There is not a single thing
38:45
Piers is coming Nick with that Nick is stunned or floored on.
38:50
Nick is absolutely demolishing Piers in this interview right
38:53
now and Piers looks like such a disingenuous retarded cunt right
38:56
now. It's not even I mean it's it's
38:58
not even funny at a point. Like he looks so fucking stupid.
39:02
I assume you're doing that because of people's skin colour?
39:05
I don't think you would probably dispute that, right?
39:08
Well, you, you're separating two different things.
39:09
The monologue when I said I don't want to live around black
39:11
people, that was after Irena Zarutska got shot.
39:13
And and it's true. I mean, they are, they are a
39:16
largely in this city, in Chicago, the South side, the
39:18
West side, huge criminal population.
39:21
And I don't want to live anywhere near it.
39:22
And, and I do I want to live in a white neighborhood.
39:24
I I think that that's extremely desirable.
39:26
And I think even black people. You're perfectly entitled to
39:29
that view, but when you have obviously prefaced all this by
39:31
saying I am a racist unashamedly, then people will
39:34
assume that all your thought processes about all of these
39:37
issues are driven by an aversion to people based on their skin
39:39
colour, which is the purest personification of racism.
39:43
Well, it's not, it's not an aversion.
39:45
I would say it's the opposite. I, I like my own people.
39:49
My own people are familiar to me And, and I think that's true
39:51
across the board. I think that people seek out
39:54
other people that are like themselves and every other group
39:55
does this, whether it's blacks, Hispanics, Asians, you know, I,
39:58
I get a lot of attacks when I talk about then I'm against
40:01
interracial marriage. And what's funny is that every
40:03
other group is against interracial or interethnic
40:06
marriage. You'll.
40:07
Put up to an interracial marriage.
40:10
Yeah, I mean, that's debatable. Not really not.
40:13
Really. No.
40:14
No. You're the product of an
40:15
interracial marriage and your father is part Mexican.
40:18
You're literally, you're literally the very person you've
40:20
just told me you want to avoid. What?
40:22
What race is Hispanic? Is that a race?
40:24
Well. What do you think it is?
40:27
I'm asking you what race is Hispanic?
40:29
Hispanic, of course, of course it's a race.
40:30
It's called Hispanic. It's a mix between two races.
40:33
It's a mix between indigenous Americans and what?
40:36
Is it? It's not white.
40:37
Well, you're apparently you're more of a racial purist than me.
40:39
You got like. A racer you just keep saying you
40:41
only want to live in a white neighborhood but you're
40:42
literally from a mixed race background yourself.
40:45
You've literally got Mexican blood.
40:47
He's like 20% Mexican. Like relax Pierce, hold his
40:52
Dick. I know and I live in a non white
40:54
neighborhood too. I'm trying to get out of here
40:56
though but I'm trying to get out.
40:57
But here's the thing. Do you have any?
40:59
Non white? Do you have any non white
41:00
friends? Genuine question.
41:01
Most of my friends are non white, most of my friends are
41:03
not, and non white people love my show.
41:05
How many of how many of black? To be honest, how many of your
41:07
friends are black? Many of them, like at least a
41:09
dozen. Wow.
41:10
Yay yay. Being one who you know, Sneako
41:13
being another who you also know. So how do they feel when you say
41:16
you just want to be away from any black people?
41:18
Walk away from them. Well, you know, you know what
41:20
Yay told me? I'll tell you verbatim what he
41:22
said. He said so use the N word.
41:25
I said yeah, he goes well when *** are being *** I said so
41:28
true. That's so true.
41:31
So they feel like they're. Agreement with me.
41:34
What does that mean? Wouldn't tell me.
41:36
You know what it means. You know what it means, you dumb
41:39
bitch. And the fact that he dropped
41:40
that on Fears. Let's go.
41:42
W Nick W Nick W America First. It means that even black people
41:46
know how black people can behave.
41:48
Even black people understand it and they know that it doesn't
41:50
come from a place of and use the word aversion.
41:52
That's the first thing I'll, I'll actually dispute.
41:54
OK, It's not an aversion on the basis of skin color because that
41:58
that would seem to suggest it's like a stubborn, irrational
42:01
bigotry. I don't consider myself a bigot.
42:02
I consider myself a racial realist.
42:04
I'm realistic about how the races are and and I speak
42:06
provocatively about it and I speak provocatively about our
42:09
tribalistic instincts and tendencies as human beings.
42:12
And, and I'm not a liberal ideologue that says that over
42:14
time and with enough education, we're all going to see this
42:17
great brotherhood where we're color blind and everybody's the
42:19
same. You know, I don't think that's
42:21
ever going away. I think that race is real.
42:22
It's not just skin deep. It matters to us and it matters
42:26
to each other. And, and black people know that
42:28
and Hispanics know that and Asians know that.
42:30
And, and people like me that that have partial Mexican
42:32
ancestry, we know that too. And I think on that basis we can
42:34
have mutual respect and understanding, not not aversion
42:38
based on skin color. The reason I use the word
42:39
aversion is you literally said that you should walk the other
42:42
way. If you see black people, that
42:43
is. No, no, no, that's called the
42:48
economy of information. That's economy of information.
42:50
That's safety. And I feel I said in the same
42:53
monologue, if you watch it, it's like, I feel sorry.
42:55
The problem is you click the 10 seconds.
42:56
I don't know if you watch the whole show, but in that
42:58
monologue I said, most black people are not violent or
43:01
criminals. I said, and it's unfortunate
43:02
that we're going to offend them when we turn and walk the other
43:05
way. I said, But the problem is we
43:07
don't know. We can't tell.
43:09
And someone like Irena Zaruska, she sat down in front of a black
43:11
man with her headphones in and wasn't paying attention because
43:14
she was being a good liberal and said, I'm not uncomfortable by
43:16
this, I'm progressive. Then she got stabbed in the
43:18
neck. And I said, it's unfortunate
43:20
that you you would have to sit behind the black man to be safe.
43:23
And if he's not violent or schizophrenic, he might be
43:26
offended by that. I said, but I would.
43:28
How many? How many deranged?
43:29
How many deranged white men have committed atrocious acts of
43:33
murder in the last 10 years in America?
43:36
Proportionally far fewer. Far fewer.
43:38
How many do you know? How many?
43:39
You have a research team, you pull it.
43:40
Out. I mean, you're very big.
43:41
You're obviously extremely exercised by that one story,
43:44
which was horrific, for the record, absolutely horrific and
43:47
should never have happened. The person who perpetrated that
43:50
evil act had a string of previous offenses and should
43:52
have been picked up more and it should have been amplified more.
43:54
I completely concur with all of that.
43:56
But I don't. I just suspect you have no idea
43:58
how many white people have committed similar crimes, do
44:01
you? No, because I know it's far
44:03
fewer from experience, because it's like you said, well and and
44:06
hang on. And I would add to that, you
44:08
know, Irena Zarutzka wasn't the first one.
44:10
That was also after Austin Metcalf was killed in Texas
44:12
after Carlisle. Anton's has been invited by
44:14
white people. Well, hang on, let me finish my
44:17
point. We.
44:17
Remind that white people don't do this.
44:18
And my point to you, Nick, point is, is of course, of course.
44:22
Of. Course, deranged white people
44:23
commit heinous acts, but you don't either know.
44:26
You either you neither know nor care, or maybe both.
44:28
Maybe you do know but don't care.
44:30
You only seem to be focused. On people.
44:33
Who commit crimes and I? Guess because they commit way
44:35
more and they're a small population.
44:37
Openly conceding you are a racist.
44:40
I could read other connotations into what you've been saying,
44:43
but once you've said I'm a racist and then you only talk
44:46
about black crime, I think people can watch this and they
44:49
can say, yeah, he is. He's a racist and everything
44:52
that he says about crime is driven through the prism.
44:54
He doesn't only talk about black crime.
44:56
I've literally seen him talk about multiple instances of
45:00
white. Like when that, who was it?
45:04
The the tranny who shot up the Annunciation school and had all
45:07
those weird Russian books and all that?
45:10
He talked about that at length for multiple days.
45:13
Was that, was that talking about black crime Pierce?
45:16
Like shut the fuck up. Of being a racist who judges
45:19
people according to their skin color.
45:22
Well, it's funny because it's quite On the contrary, and I
45:24
said this in a similar monologue.
45:26
You know, the problem is not that I wake up and I walk down
45:28
the street and I see someone that doesn't look like me and it
45:30
makes me angry. The problem is there's a pattern
45:32
of behavior which we've all seen.
45:34
Blacks in America have become narcissistic and they become
45:37
narcissistic because they've been told they're victims of
45:40
racism, they're victims of slavery.
45:41
They've been told really there's no accountability.
45:43
If they're rude, if they're inconsiderate, if they're
45:45
criminal, they are told that they have no agency for their
45:47
actions. They're being told if if you act
45:49
in this way, it's because the white man made you that way,
45:51
it's because the system's rigged against you.
45:52
And so we've been telling black people this for a generation and
45:55
now there's no rules. Now they go and what we hate to
45:57
see as as decent people, not even as white people, but decent
46:00
people, even black people too. What we hate to see is rudeness,
46:04
obnoxiousness, inconsideration, criminality, violence, and And
46:07
that's that pattern of behavior that we see all over social
46:10
media, but just. To be clear, you you don't like
46:12
you don't like black people who play the victim and are rude.
46:16
Is that your position? I don't I don't like anybody who
46:20
plays the victim and is rude. Like who?
46:23
Who the fuck likes people who play the victim card?
46:25
Who the fuck likes people who are rude?
46:28
Like that's a stupid fucking question.
46:30
Like that pattern? Of behavior.
46:34
I see where this is going. You're going to.
46:35
Turn this around on me. Ahead of me, aren't you?
46:37
Because you when I say it, what black friends have you got?
46:39
You say I'm. I'm kind of black, aren't I?
46:41
No, not that you say, Oh yeah, I'm not saying you.
46:43
I'm just saying your choice of black friend is yay, who is
46:46
arguably the number one black victimhood narcissist in
46:51
America. Do you understand the problem?
46:53
So he's your, he's your friend. He's one of the very few black
46:55
people you want to be associated with.
46:57
Yay is a literal genius. Like what are you fucking
46:59
talking about? I I would love to see peers take
47:03
an IQ test next to yay because you could say whatever you
47:07
wanted about yay but his IQ is off the fucking charts and it's
47:10
been recorded. And if peers and yay sat next to
47:13
each other and took an IQ test and when yay defeat of peers and
47:16
that that would be the end of peers career right there right
47:19
then and there. But he's the epitome of what you
47:21
just said you abhor about narcissistic black people.
47:25
I disagree. I disagree with you, and I'll
47:27
tell you why. Because yay.
47:28
If you've ever met him in real life, I have, Yeah.
47:31
OK, Well then you know he's nothing but polite, considerate
47:34
and. Seems very rude to me the last
47:35
two times I interviewed him. He's a supreme.
47:37
He's a supreme narcissist and he's also he's.
47:39
Interrupting me? You're very rude.
47:40
Are you? Are you black?
47:41
Because you've been very rude by ecology right now to you I'm.
47:43
I'm giving you a hard time, but I.
47:45
Look, I do want to finish my point.
47:46
I do want to finish my point about yay.
47:49
He is a guy who when I was with him, wanted to make sure that
47:51
everybody was heard, everybody felt included.
47:53
He's actually a very soft spoken guy, very polite and by the way,
47:56
not violent. When you look at all the rappers
47:58
that are in the music game, many of them, especially from Chicago
48:01
drill rap, they're talking about killing people, shooting people.
48:04
They gang bang. He notably, if you know about
48:06
him, he got his start because he was a nerd.
48:08
He wore a backpack and a polo and he wasn't a gang banger.
48:10
He rapped about his feelings and girls and his dreams and his
48:13
ambitions. So no.
48:14
And by the way, he would tell me all the time he doesn't even
48:17
feel black. They make him feel not black
48:19
because he doesn't do those things, because he's soft
48:22
spoken, because he's artistic, because he's a bit of a nerd or
48:24
likes fashion. So I would disagree He's he's
48:27
actually not like that at all. He's also, he's also a Hitler
48:30
loving anti Semite. And we're going to take a little
48:32
commercial break here and we're going to come back about and
48:35
talk about anti-Semitism and your views about Jewish people
48:38
and indeed what Yeah, it said about the same subject matter.
48:41
That's crazy. Angel Studios are back with a
48:44
new must. It's absolutely crazy the way
48:46
this interview is going here. Let's I want to look at some of
48:49
the comments while let's see how do I fucking get where are the
48:53
comments? Why is this not what the fuck is
48:58
going on? Maybe I have to there there it
49:04
is not. Did they turn comments off like
49:06
pussies? What's going on here?
49:09
I don't know. Maybe something's going wrong.
49:11
All right, let's get back. See documentary Jennifer, we
49:14
should all don't want to slash to anti.
49:20
OK, back with Nick for Winters. Let's just turn to
49:22
anti-Semitism. In your interview with Steven
49:25
Crowder last week, you answered emphatically that you don't hate
49:28
all Jews. Is is that correct?
49:29
That's your position. Yes.
49:31
OK, so I want to play you this clip.
49:33
I don't. Hate any Jews?
49:34
Let me just amend that I don't hate any Jews.
49:36
OK, OK, let's let's play this clip.
49:39
And the reason I've had it is because my opposition to world
49:42
jewelry and Israel is rooted an absolute, uncontestable fact.
49:48
We have the truth on our side. That's why we're winning,
49:51
because we are telling the truth about the historical antagonism
49:55
between Jews and Europeans, between Jews and Christians, the
49:58
theological, historical, racial, cultural and political
50:03
antagonisms between organized jewelry and the Christians,
50:07
organized jewelry and Europeans. And the reason that we are
50:12
winning that argument is because it's real.
50:14
It's true. I can prove it.
50:16
I can show you. I can name the names.
50:18
I can show you the paper trail, the money.
50:21
That is why we're winning. That is why all of this is
50:25
raising the consciousness. When you say you have this
50:28
opposition to World Jewelry, I mean, it's one thing to
50:32
criticize, for example, the Israeli government over what
50:33
it's been doing in Gaza. I've done that myself.
50:35
When you talk about World Jewelry, I presume you're
50:37
talking about the 15,000,000 Jews in the world and you are
50:41
opposed to them. How does that square with your
50:43
position that you don't hate any Jews?
50:44
Yours is retarded. Well, do you take issue with my
50:47
use of the term world jewelry? What do you mean by that?
50:51
Or do you take issue with it? You have a problem with.
50:52
That clarify what you mean by it.
50:55
Well, it's funny you bring that up.
50:57
The gas lighting's crazy because I use that expression on my show
51:00
all the time. I say organized jewelry, world
51:01
jewelry. And do you know that for like 30
51:04
years, the World Jewish Congress has an annual keynote called the
51:09
State of World Jewelry. Barry Weiss has given it.
51:12
You can look it up. It's on YouTube.
51:13
She gives the State of world. Jewelry.
51:16
What do you mean? But Nick, what do you mean by
51:18
it? I mean, you have to talk about,
51:20
you know, there's a concept of Jewish peoplehood.
51:22
It's the sense that they are part of a common nationality, a
51:26
common tribe, a common people. And so where they reside in
51:29
Israel, the United States or Europe or elsewhere, they see
51:32
each other above or maybe on a different level alongside their,
51:37
their nationality, their, you know, their state, wherever they
51:40
reside, if they're in Germany, France, the United States, they
51:42
see themselves as part of a transnational nation of an
51:45
international nation. The Jews in America, the Jews in
51:48
Israel, that they identify as Israeli or American, but they
51:51
also have something in common. They identify as part of a
51:53
common nation, which I would say there's a world Jewish
51:55
population. It's world jewelry and world
51:58
jewelry has representatives. There is such a thing as the
52:01
World Jewish Congress where they actually elect, it's democratic.
52:04
All the local Jewish organizations elect
52:06
representatives to represent proportionally the Jewish
52:09
population in their area at the World Jewish Congress.
52:12
And it's sort of like Davos. It's like the World Economic
52:14
Forum, but it's exclusively for members of the Jewish nation
52:17
that exists across the world. And so that's a real thing.
52:20
And I didn't make that up. And that didn't come from 4
52:22
Chan. It's like I said in that clip, I
52:24
read what they write, I read their books, I watch these
52:27
speeches. I watch a speech from Barry
52:28
Weiss. I pay very close attention.
52:30
So that's what I mean by that. There is such a thing as it it's
52:32
a nation that exists across borders on a global scale.
52:35
They're organized and they have a a national self-interest as
52:39
that nation, as that tribe. So.
52:41
So if you don't hate any Jews, what do you like about them?
52:44
I like a lot of things about them.
52:45
I think they're funny. I think they're smart.
52:48
I think that they're they're pretty remarkable people.
52:50
And as Christians, especially as Catholics, we say they're
52:53
remarkable. And this has been adjudicated
52:55
in, in Catholic doctrine for thousands of years.
52:58
We say that they're a witness people.
52:59
And so we actually, you know, there's provisions inside of
53:02
Catholic doctrine that says we need to give them special
53:03
protections because they were a witness to Christ's passion.
53:06
So, you know, This is why you can't clip the show.
53:08
You have to watch the whole thing.
53:09
I say this repeatedly in interviews.
53:11
I do think they're remarkable by definition.
53:13
They're exceptional people. It's just that there is there is
53:16
a sort of natural opposition between them and Christians
53:19
because of the theology. We believe that Christ is a
53:22
Messiah. They don't.
53:24
They have been a minority in Christian lands for thousands of
53:27
years, and they have been pushed around and expelled and they've
53:30
been persecuted and segregated. And that's why there's a lot of
53:32
paranoia. There's a lot of distrust there.
53:36
There's maybe some sense of chauvinism among Jewish people.
53:39
So there is, like I said in that clip, there is an historical
53:41
antagonism between these two peoples, between Christendom and
53:45
Jewry. And that has always been the
53:46
case in Europe. But I, I don't hate them.
53:48
And I think I actually sort of understand them in a weird way.
53:50
I think that because I've studied a lot of their politics,
53:53
I think I really kind of know them in a way, and it doesn't
53:55
come from a place of hatred. Do you have any Jewish friends?
53:57
I do. I have many, yes.
53:59
But that's weird because you said this.
54:02
Jews and Christians have never been friends.
54:03
Ever. Not since Jesus Christ fought
54:05
with the Pharisees have we ever been friends.
54:08
Not since Saul was leading the charge, persecuting the
54:11
Christians. Not since the Roman Empire.
54:13
Not since the Middle Ages. Never.
54:16
The funny thing is like I criticized Israel and organized
54:18
jewelry on this show. Some of my best friends are
54:21
Jewish and they agree with me like it's.
54:23
It's ridiculous that Pierce is this fucking retarded.
54:26
We've never been friends, we've never been allies.
54:28
We've always been set against each other.
54:29
Actually, and even here in the United States, it was Communist
54:34
Jews who were the architects of both communism and the civil
54:37
rights laws that are dispossessing white Christians
54:39
of their land and civilization. The Jews and Christians have
54:41
never been friends, ever, except for you and your Jewish friends.
54:45
Yeah, so easy as peoples, as peoples, as nations, got it.
54:49
Not not saying every individual Christian.
54:50
And of course there have been Christians and there have been
54:52
Christian converts to Judaism, Jewish converts, Christian.
54:55
You're nodding your head, but you're you're asking this, I'm
54:56
saying is peoples. There's a woman, I'm a Catholic
54:59
like you, and I have many Jewish friends.
55:00
I'm just trying to compute what you're trying to say, which is
55:03
Jews and Christians have never been friends on my target.
55:05
You have Jewish friends, I have Jewish friends.
55:07
We're both Catholics, therefore we're Christians.
55:09
It doesn't really quite add up. Well, like I said, as peoples,
55:13
there has been an historical antagonism as peoples, and you
55:15
could even say the same about blacks in the United States.
55:18
Of course, there were black and white people that were friendly
55:20
with each other, but in many ways they were set against each
55:23
other as groups. And I think that's easy enough
55:25
to understand. The reason that many people
55:27
think you're anti-Semitic is that you have regularly
55:30
downplayed the Holocaust and in particular the number of Jewish
55:33
people who were murdered by the Nazis.
55:36
It's been said that you believe no more than several 100,000
55:40
have been killed and I'm going to play you this clip.
55:42
People talk about, well, you know, what about the gas
55:44
chambers? Well, to the extent that that's
55:47
real, I find that hard to believe.
55:48
But to the extent that's real, there have been atrocities
55:50
committed and genocides committed in all times and all
55:53
places. Let's acknowledge why Hitler
55:56
casts the long shadow, because that confers a political benefit
56:00
upon juice. That's why.
56:02
It doesn't really sound correct to me.
56:03
Wait a second. Takes one hour to cook a batch
56:05
of cookies and you have 15 ovens, probably in four
56:08
different kitchens, right? Doing 24 hours a day, every day
56:11
for five years? How long would it take you to
56:13
make 6,000,000? I don't know.
56:14
It certainly wouldn't be five years, right?
56:16
The math doesn't seem to add up there.
56:19
You think that's funny? It's funny.
56:22
It's amusing what you're doing because you know that one was a
56:24
joke. But do you want to talk
56:26
seriously about the? Holocaust.
56:27
Yeah, I do. Actually I do, because I just
56:29
find it extraordinary that you would think the Holocaust could
56:32
ever be something that we could joke about.
56:35
Why too soon? Is it too soon to make jokes?
56:40
How? How?
56:40
How many people do you think died in the Holocaust?
56:42
How many Jewish people? I I don't know, I'm thinking
56:45
maybe 7 million. What?
56:47
What's the number 76 million, something like that?
56:49
So you you you can see that 6,000,000 Jews died in the
56:52
Holocaust. Possibly more possibly, well,
56:55
you know, we're discovering all the time, so it could be maybe
56:57
even be more than that. So why have you?
56:59
Why have you doubted the numbers in the past?
57:03
I'll tell you why. I really think that every death
57:06
is a tragedy. However, many Jewish people died
57:08
in the Holocaust, and I'm not a World War 2 historian, so I'm
57:11
actually open to believing the official narrative.
57:13
And I've read some of the conspiracy theories.
57:14
And to tell you the truth, it's a rigorous debate.
57:17
But you know, what's interesting about this is in many countries,
57:20
it's not even legal to talk about it.
57:23
And that's really where my interest in the Holocaust begins
57:25
and sort of ends. To tell you the truth, is that
57:27
if you wanted to question the number you would be put in jail
57:30
in about what is it, 17 or 18 European countries?
57:33
And I think that's really the more interesting conversation,
57:35
which is that this is almost like a religious dogma in the
57:39
West. No other genocide, no other
57:41
atrocity is treated like this. Could you imagine if in the
57:44
United States, they said the number of Palestinians killed in
57:46
Gaza is 100,000? And if you don't say that,
57:49
you're going to jail, you're banned on X, you can't have a
57:51
job. That's the part that's totally
57:53
insane. And a lot of people, they can't
57:55
even make up their minds. I think it's actually done a
57:57
disservice if your goal if, and I'm not saying you as Piers
58:00
Morgan, but if your goal, if you're an advocate for awareness
58:03
about this, if your goal is to convince everybody that this is
58:06
the way the Holocaust happened, I think the last thing you'd
58:08
want to do is say that everyone that disagrees is in jail and is
58:11
banned and you're not allowed to say it.
58:13
So there's really been no open debate about the subject since
58:16
the scholarship started to be produced about 60 years ago.
58:18
There is no there is no debate to be had about the number of
58:21
people who were murdered. Even the Nazis.
58:24
Even the Nazis in the trials after the war confirmed the
58:28
numbers, the amount of documentation that was
58:30
recovered, notwithstanding the attempts by the Nazis to destroy
58:33
it, The amount of documentation that was saved and preserved and
58:37
used for trials of historical record is unprecedented in the
58:41
history of mass slaughter of human beings.
58:43
So we have a very clear idea of how many people were gassed to
58:46
death in the gas chambers. We have a very clear idea of how
58:49
many were starved to death, were kept in ghettos, died of
58:52
disease, a forced labour of death marches.
58:54
We know how many Jews that were slaughtered.
58:56
It's at least 6,000,000. What's interesting to me is that
58:59
you appear to now concede that, which may be news to a lot of
59:02
your regular viewers who have constantly heard you quibble
59:06
with the number of Jews who died in the Holocaust.
59:07
It's for the record, just to confirm what I think you told me
59:10
you do. Now accept that at least
59:13
6,000,000 Jews were killed in the Holocaust.
59:15
Well, no, I I said it could be. It could even be higher.
59:18
Well, it could be. That is, I think it's at least,
59:20
but you think it's. At least, Oh, it's at least
59:22
6,000,000, but it could be 100. Times the people are going to be
59:24
OK, the people are going to be. But let me respond to your, let
59:27
me respond to the rest of your questions.
59:29
What you're saying, I understand where you're coming from when
59:31
you say it has been documented and there are confessions and so
59:34
on. Let that speak for itself.
59:37
But you don't see, you know, your show is called Pierce
59:39
Morgan Uncensored, but the United Kingdom is censored and
59:41
Europe is censored. And if you talk about these
59:43
things, you will be put in jail in many countries.
59:46
And I think that's where a lot of people start to say, well, if
59:49
the truth is so clear and if there's such overwhelming
59:51
evidence, why do you need to throw people in jail for
59:54
disagreeing? And you yourself said, well,
59:55
there is no debate. I think everything is debatable.
59:58
I think everything at least should be debated.
1:00:00
And if the evidence is very one sided, let the evidence speak.
1:00:03
Don't throw people in jail. So do you think that Holocaust
1:00:05
denial laws should be overturned?
1:00:07
I don't particularly agree with Holocaust denial laws.
1:00:09
I don't think people should be in prison.
1:00:11
Well, because I have a blanket view now, which has evolved
1:00:13
slightly actually over the years that I have a blanket view that
1:00:17
speech should not be criminalized, Right, people?
1:00:18
People should be allowed to say what they want to say and they
1:00:21
should be then made accountable for what they say.
1:00:23
If you have an employer, they can make a view about whether
1:00:25
you are the right kind of person they want for their employment
1:00:27
as they will make a decision about anything else you do in
1:00:29
life. So I actually believe that
1:00:30
speech should never be criminalized is my personal
1:00:32
view. I understand why in places like
1:00:34
Germany they have strong laws about it because they want to
1:00:36
move on from what they believe was the most shameful moment in
1:00:39
their history. I understand that.
1:00:41
Do I want that in my country? No Am I appalled by what has
1:00:44
been going on with free speech in United Kingdom in the last
1:00:46
two or three years? Absolutely.
1:00:48
It is ridiculous that people have been frog marched to prison
1:00:51
cells, the stuff they put on social media, Right.
1:00:53
So yeah, I do. I think what is more interesting
1:00:55
to me about our exchange is I was not expecting you to go the
1:00:58
opposite way. I was not expecting you to be so
1:01:00
emphatic that at least 6,000,000 Jews died in the Holocaust.
1:01:03
And there'll be people watching this who I think will be very
1:01:05
surprised by that because you have built a reputation for
1:01:08
being, if not a Holocaust denier, then somebody constantly
1:01:10
questioning in a downward way the number of Jews who were
1:01:13
murdered. That doesn't appear to be what
1:01:15
your position is now. No.
1:01:17
And, and here's what I would like to see from my entire
1:01:19
career. When I started my show, it
1:01:21
started with a good faith inquiry where I was questioning
1:01:23
a lot of these narratives and I said, what is the answer on the
1:01:26
other side? But what I found is that the
1:01:27
answer was criminalized. So when you would talk about
1:01:29
anything regarding Jews, Israel, the Holocaust, you could be in
1:01:32
favor of the official narrative on those things.
1:01:34
If you went against, you were banned, censored, and in some
1:01:37
countries jailed. And so I actually haven't
1:01:38
made-up my mind on that because that's not really a matter of
1:01:41
interest to me. And there's a lot of analysis
1:01:43
and scholarship on both sides of the issue.
1:01:45
And I've read both sides of the issue.
1:01:47
And honestly, unfortunately, it's hard to judge because there
1:01:50
has never been, there's never been a debate on it.
1:01:53
And there's never been a debate because of the stigma, because
1:01:55
of the censorship. And I think that leads a lot of
1:01:57
people to say, well, what do they have to hide?
1:01:59
Because you can say on your show, well, I'm personally
1:02:01
against Holocaust denial laws. Yet they still persist and the
1:02:04
social consequences still persist.
1:02:06
And I think that that is the anomaly.
1:02:08
And people have to wonder, OK, why is it that way?
1:02:10
And what I said in that clip is the reason the Holocaust casts a
1:02:13
long shadow is because it confers a political benefit upon
1:02:17
organized jewelry. That is what they always fall
1:02:18
back on. They cannot be criticized, they
1:02:20
cannot be named, they cannot be talked about lest there be
1:02:23
another Holocaust. And no other tragedy is treated
1:02:25
that way. And no other ethnic group has a
1:02:27
get out of jail free card. Just play that anti-Semitism and
1:02:29
Holocaust. You can do whatever you want and
1:02:31
defend all your actions. That's the part that people are
1:02:33
getting upset with. That's the problem.
1:02:35
I don't. I don't know any right minded
1:02:36
person who believes that Jewish people weaponize the Holocaust
1:02:39
for their own personal get out of jail free or whatever you.
1:02:42
I was literally debating, I'm not going to say who it was, but
1:02:45
I was debating with the Jew back and forth.
1:02:48
And they were criticizing my show.
1:02:50
And I was saying, and they weren't criticizing my show.
1:02:52
Actually they were giving personal attacks to me.
1:02:55
And I was like, if you want to criticize my show, feel free.
1:02:57
But just dishing out personal attacks doesn't make you, you
1:03:01
know, bigger. It doesn't make you right.
1:03:03
And then they were like, if you don't have anything nice to say
1:03:06
about Israel or, you know, things like that, don't say
1:03:09
anything at all. People's lives are at stake.
1:03:12
They they fall back on the victim card way too fucking
1:03:15
often. And it's so disingenuous.
1:03:17
Cooler, you don't know anyone that does that, that believes
1:03:19
that. I'm sure there are some people
1:03:20
that do that. It's such a ridiculous
1:03:21
generalization. You know the the truth is that
1:03:23
most Jewish people have lost relatives in the Holocaust.
1:03:26
If I want to play you, I want to play you 22 clips. 1 is where
1:03:29
you talk about Adolf Hitler. Hitler was a pedophile and kind
1:03:35
of a Pagan. It's like, well, he was also
1:03:37
really fucking cool. So, you know, time to grow up.
1:03:41
We're not, we're not children anymore.
1:03:42
Am I right? Am I right?
1:03:44
Am I right, boys? Am I right?
1:03:46
Let's go. He was also really fucking cool.
1:03:50
You regret saying that? Saying a fact?
1:03:54
No, no, that's absolutely true. You think Hitler was very
1:03:57
fucking cool? Yes I do one of the and I'm
1:04:01
tired of pretending he's not. Well, to be honest, this is the
1:04:04
problem. You see, It's a bit like when
1:04:05
you just say I'm a racist, you're a racist.
1:04:07
I think every single dictator and every single king and all
1:04:12
the I think they're all cool on some level.
1:04:14
I mean, again, it doesn't mean they're good.
1:04:16
They could be evil. Like we're not saying they're
1:04:18
not evil, but doesn't mean they're not cool.
1:04:21
It doesn't mean that they didn't do cool shit.
1:04:24
Like, I don't get how it's so hard to fucking understand.
1:04:29
And again, it's not saying that things they did specifically,
1:04:32
like everything they did was cool.
1:04:34
It is saying that people who get to a leadership position in that
1:04:39
way, people who were products of their time, you can look back
1:04:43
and think on history in that way and say, Oh yeah, that is cool.
1:04:47
You don't have to agree with the things they said.
1:04:49
You could say that they were evil.
1:04:50
That's fine as well. But yeah, Piers is just
1:04:53
retarded. It's so fucking clear.
1:04:55
Piers is actually retarded. Who thinks Hitler's cool?
1:04:58
But you're not anti-Semitic if you're a Jewish person watching
1:05:01
this. What are they thinking?
1:05:03
I'll tell you what they're thinking because I've got a
1:05:04
friend of mine called Danny Finkelstein, who when he heard I
1:05:07
was interviewing you, he's a Times journalist in the UK, very
1:05:10
eminent journalist here and author who wrote a book about
1:05:12
his own family's experiences at the hands of Hitler and Stalin,
1:05:15
because he also told Tucker Carlson that you admire Stalin.
1:05:19
But let's let's just tell you what Danny said here.
1:05:22
Up here it's Stanley Finkelstein here as you're interviewing Nick
1:05:24
Dewentis, you might try suggesting to him that he reads
1:05:26
my book Hitler Starling, Mum and Dad.
1:05:27
It's called 2 Roads Home in the United States.
1:05:30
Since he says he's on Team Hitler, he you might like to ask
1:05:33
him about the fact that. He it's just a guy promoting his
1:05:36
own book. Like what?
1:05:37
They arrested my mum, tried to starve my mum to death, did
1:05:40
starve my grandmother to death, sent my great aunt to the gas
1:05:44
chamber, my great uncle, my cousin.
1:05:46
My grandmother on my father's side ended up being one out of
1:05:50
seven children, the only one that survived the war.
1:05:53
So you might ask him whether he wouldn't rather be on Team Mum
1:05:56
rather than Team Hitler. And As for celebrating Stalin's
1:05:59
birthday, well, Stalin took my father, sent him to a state
1:06:01
collective farm, sent my grandmother and my to a state
1:06:04
collective farm, sent my grandfather to the gulag.
1:06:07
You might try asking why he doesn't celebrate Dad's birthday
1:06:10
rather than Stalin's. It may well be a big joke to
1:06:12
him, but he complaints that he was 18 when someone tried to
1:06:17
cancel him. Well, Stalin and Hitler arrested
1:06:20
my mum and my dad when they were 10 years old, so perhaps he
1:06:23
might like to reconsider his joke.
1:06:26
See, it's that's the reality of your jokes, so that I haven't
1:06:29
ascertained yet whether you are joking when you say that Hitler
1:06:32
was very fucking cool. Are you joking or do you
1:06:35
actually think he was very fucking cool?
1:06:36
The most generational monster of the last 150 years.
1:06:41
Yeah, the The thing is, my generation, we're just done with
1:06:44
the Pearl clutching, you know? Your generation hasn't gone
1:06:47
through what Danny Finkelstein family went through.
1:06:49
So yeah, maybe, maybe the Pearl clutching has a way to go.
1:06:52
The families whose whose family members get murdered.
1:06:56
We got all that. We, you know, me mum, me mum,
1:06:58
like we're, you know, I don't even know who this person is.
1:07:00
Why is this person talking to me?
1:07:01
This old British guy is saying me mum got killed by Hitler.
1:07:04
And he doesn't find it funny when you say Hitler's very.
1:07:06
Fucking I don't care. I don't care.
1:07:07
You don't care. That's fine.
1:07:09
You don't have to care. But he does.
1:07:11
Does that guy care about America?
1:07:12
Does that guy care about me and my country and my family?
1:07:14
No, he cares. What you, a prominent
1:07:16
conservative in America, has to say about Adolf Hitler?
1:07:19
And what do you mean by Hitler is very fucking cool?
1:07:22
Because I think he's very fucking a monster.
1:07:25
Oh gosh, and that's a clip. I think he's very fucking a
1:07:28
monster when? You hear yourself.
1:07:30
I mean, can we all grow up? I do.
1:07:31
Can we all grow? Up.
1:07:32
He murdered 12 million people. He murdered 12 million people.
1:07:34
What is very fucking cool about that?
1:07:36
Tell me. It's not even like the biggest
1:07:39
genocide of all time as well when they're like, he murdered
1:07:42
12 million, OK. It's like there are people
1:07:43
who've murdered 60 million there.
1:07:45
There's our countless genocides over time.
1:07:48
Like shut the fuck up, Pierce. And again, I'm not saying it's
1:07:52
good. Genocide is evil no matter who's
1:07:54
committing it on who. But for him to act like it's
1:07:58
this special case is kind of ridiculous.
1:08:00
And that's the narrative that needs to be destroyed.
1:08:04
The edits, it's just cool. The the uniforms, the parades,
1:08:07
the it's, it's cool. As a guy, you look at World War
1:08:09
2 and it's fascinating and it's interesting and it's compelling
1:08:13
and it's cool. And, you know, we're just tired
1:08:15
of saying these kinds of things. We want to talk like real people
1:08:17
and give our honest opinions. And then we and then we
1:08:19
literally get an old Jewish guy from England who's going to say,
1:08:22
oh, hit that very funny, mate, me mum.
1:08:24
And it's like, shut up. Like, you know, no one is in
1:08:26
favor of genocide. So let's just get dad out of the
1:08:28
way. We're not in favor of a
1:08:30
Holocaust or genocide. You think if half your family
1:08:32
years ago, you think if half your family had been wiped out
1:08:34
by very fucking cool Hitler, you still think he was very fucking
1:08:37
cool? Or would you think that actually
1:08:39
he was a despicable monster who murdered 12 million people, who
1:08:42
targeted people because they were disabled or Jewish or
1:08:45
Romany Gypsy or whatever it may be, and that he systematically
1:08:49
destroyed people, incinerated them in gas chambers?
1:08:51
Do you think you would find it very fucking cool if your family
1:08:55
had been through that? Or do you think you would find
1:08:56
it very fucking disgusting and perhaps moderate the number of
1:08:59
times you you laugh about it or want to joke about it?
1:09:02
You want to abuse someone like Danny Finkelstein, who's written
1:09:05
incredibly powerful books about what happened to his extended
1:09:08
family at the hands of a Nazis and your other hero Stalin.
1:09:11
See, my point to you, Nick Fuentes, is that in parts of
1:09:13
this interview you try to come across as moderate, but every
1:09:16
now and again the mask slips and it slipped again here with what
1:09:19
you say about Hitler. There's nothing very fucking
1:09:21
cool about Hitler. We know that from history now.
1:09:23
We know what he did. You've already conceded that he
1:09:26
murdered at least 6,000,000 Jews.
1:09:28
So when you say he's very fucking cool, Jewish people
1:09:29
watch this and go, this guy's disgusting.
1:09:32
Why would he say this? Say this about someone who
1:09:34
perpetrated such an evil. And what's the what's the real
1:09:36
answer? Why do you?
1:09:37
Is it just for clicks? Is it for money?
1:09:39
Is it just for fun? For shits and giggles?
1:09:41
What is it? What motivates you to say
1:09:43
something like Hitler was very fucking cool?
1:09:46
It's for. This it's for all.
1:09:48
Weren't the Nazis wearing Hugo Boss?
1:09:50
Like, that's cool. That part of it's cool.
1:09:55
Again, you don't have to say what they did was cool.
1:09:59
You don't have to say that genocide is good, to say that
1:10:02
history is cool and that leaders who came to the top we're cool.
1:10:07
Like, it's not saying that they were good.
1:10:09
It's not saying that they weren't evil.
1:10:11
It's very different things. And Piers is retarded.
1:10:15
All of this and, and the lack of self-awareness is amazing.
1:10:18
You're, you're a boomer, you're a 60 year old boomer.
1:10:20
And we've spent maybe 3 minutes on you saying he's a really
1:10:23
fucking monster. He incinerated people.
1:10:25
This, this, and I'm sitting here saying it's not that serious,
1:10:29
it's not that deep. And that's what you're getting
1:10:31
at. Not that serious.
1:10:32
Do you want to say more about You're not you're.
1:10:34
Not kidding yourself anymore. You're not a teenager.
1:10:37
I know, right? You're nearly 30, to be clear.
1:10:39
OK? You're a fully formed adult who
1:10:41
has a brain, right? And at some stage that brain is
1:10:44
taking you off these is. This an interview or is this a
1:10:46
lecture? Can I respond to what you're
1:10:47
saying I. Want you to?
1:10:48
Really. I want you to explain why you
1:10:50
think it's fine to say how fucking cool Hitler is and to
1:10:53
dismiss the very powerful 90 seconds from a British
1:10:56
journalist who lost a lot of family members to the Nazis.
1:10:59
It's very powerful, 90 seconds. I don't think it's powerful.
1:11:03
I think we've been hearing that our entire lives.
1:11:05
OK, the Schindler's List, let's just be honest, the propaganda
1:11:07
is over the top. We have been brought in America.
1:11:09
What about the? Schindler's List.
1:11:10
Tell me about the Schindler's List.
1:11:11
Tell me about the Schindler's. I'll tell you about it.
1:11:13
We have been browbeaten as a people, as Americans, as
1:11:16
Westerners for our entire lives. And you know what?
1:11:19
This is done. It is taken away any sense of
1:11:21
pride, any sense of love for our own civilization.
1:11:25
We have been made the villain in our own story.
1:11:27
We have been made because let's just be clear, it doesn't begin
1:11:29
and end with Hitler is a monster.
1:11:32
This has been the political narrative, which is why we have
1:11:34
thrown open the borders. This is a political narrative,
1:11:36
which is why we're not. We can't be a conservative
1:11:38
society as a whole anymore. Why we can't be proud of
1:11:41
Europeans, why we can't be proud of being Christian?
1:11:43
Because they've told us if you're too white and too proud
1:11:45
and too Christian, it's going to lead to a Holocaust.
1:11:47
And so my generation our entire. Life, that's what people, That's
1:11:52
why I'm popular. Because of bullshit, honestly.
1:11:55
It's a croc. You just mom and me, dad.
1:11:57
What? You just no, no, listen, what
1:11:59
you just said is a croc of shit. And you know, and in your gut
1:12:04
you know it is you weaponize this stuff.
1:12:06
You know, you weaponize this stuff for money.
1:12:08
But you know when you say something, what you just say?
1:12:10
From banking, you know, from banking and credit cards, you
1:12:12
know you're talking to do it for money.
1:12:14
How much money you make. Your companies worth $100
1:12:16
million, your country, your companies worth $100 million.
1:12:19
I was banned from Bank of America and you shouldn't banned
1:12:21
from processing credit card. You shouldn't have been.
1:12:23
But I am so don't tell me I'm doing it for money.
1:12:25
Ask me my opinion about that, I'll tell you you shouldn't have
1:12:27
been right. I don't agree with that.
1:12:29
What? Happened.
1:12:29
Nick is one of the best orders, one of the best speakers.
1:12:32
Nick could have. Nick could have been the head of
1:12:36
any major political organization.
1:12:38
Now he could have taken the easy route and chose the I'm in this
1:12:41
for the money, and he could have sold out completely, shield for
1:12:45
his real shield for all these lobbyists and bureaucrats and
1:12:48
NGOs and all this bullshit. But instead he took the hard
1:12:52
route. He took the route where he's
1:12:53
making significantly less money, but he's doing it for America.
1:12:58
So again, Pierce is absolutely fucking retarded and out of his
1:13:01
league with this one. Let's get back into it.
1:13:04
Don't say I'm doing it for money because you know that full well
1:13:06
and you say it's how. Much money I'm I'd be a.
1:13:08
Grifter, I'd be like you. How?
1:13:09
Much would Beyon say? How much money are you making?
1:13:12
I'm making a lot of money now, now that I'm the number one live
1:13:15
streamer in America, because people agree with me more than
1:13:17
they agree with you. We're tired of hearing about
1:13:18
slavery and the Holocaust and Jim Crow.
1:13:20
We're done hearing about that. You guys.
1:13:22
Yeah. I've not done hearing about
1:13:24
that. OK, well, you know, your
1:13:25
generation's on the way out and Generation Z is coming up and
1:13:28
we're finished with that. We're ready to take our.
1:13:29
Country I've got three sons, I've got three sons.
1:13:31
Anymore, I've got three sons and they don't share your views
1:13:34
about slavery and about the Holocaust.
1:13:36
They can have decency. And compassion and humanity
1:13:39
about some of the worst things that have happened in the last
1:13:41
150 years or more. They can do that.
1:13:43
And they can also have concerned views about issues like
1:13:46
immigration and other issues. The two things are not mutually
1:13:49
incompatible. You can have different views
1:13:51
about different things. It's your lack of humanity and
1:13:53
compassion for people about things like the Holocaust, about
1:13:56
slavery. It's that that people find so
1:13:58
contemptible. And I don't understand why you
1:14:00
need to do that. Is, again, I just ask you, is it
1:14:02
is your motivation financial? Is your motivation for fun?
1:14:06
What is the motivation for saying these outlandish things
1:14:09
which you don't need to say and which I suspect, I don't know, I
1:14:12
suspect a lot of it is performative.
1:14:13
So. So what is the motivation?
1:14:15
I'm an iconoclast. The Holocaust is not my
1:14:17
religion. And it is treated like a
1:14:19
religion. It is treated like a religion
1:14:20
with dogma, with blasphemy laws. And that secular religion says,
1:14:24
and you say, you say that's a crock of shit.
1:14:27
It's intentional. It's called The Open Society by
1:14:29
Karl Popper. It's by these architects of the
1:14:31
liberal order. after World War 2, they got together and they
1:14:33
said how can we make sure that Hitler never happens?
1:14:35
How can we make sure that totalitarianism never happens
1:14:37
again? And they came up with a
1:14:39
consensus, which is that we need to take down nations, religions,
1:14:42
fathers, the authoritarian personality.
1:14:44
We need to be empathetic and altruistic.
1:14:46
We need to be diverse and pluralistic.
1:14:48
And that experiment isn't working.
1:14:49
And I'll tell you the truth right now, and you can laugh at
1:14:52
this, you can scoff at this, our people are being genocided in
1:14:56
our country. 50% of the live births in the United Kingdom and
1:14:59
in the United States are nonwhite.
1:15:01
In 100 years, my ancestors, your ancestors, your kids who are so
1:15:04
empathetic and compassionate, they're going to be a minority.
1:15:07
They're going to be a minority and maybe a Muslim country, an
1:15:09
Indian country and Hispanic country.
1:15:11
And these Jewish people that are 100 years old talking about my
1:15:13
grandparents in the Holocaust, they don't care about that.
1:15:16
Actually, they like to see it. At the SPLC.
1:15:18
They're literally counting down the days until whites are a
1:15:20
minority in America. So forgive me if I don't believe
1:15:22
them. Then when they talk about
1:15:23
compassion, there's a genocide going on right now.
1:15:25
It's not against how? Many Christians are there.
1:15:27
How many Christians are there in the world?
1:15:30
One point, some billion, 2 billion How?
1:15:32
Many Jews? How many Jews are there?
1:15:33
15,000,000 OK. So with a straight face, you're
1:15:36
going to tell me the world is being overrun by the Jewry by
1:15:40
15,000,000 people when there are over a billion Christians?
1:15:43
There is a genocide of Christians like poor old Nick
1:15:46
Fuentes going on at the hands of these 15,000,000 Jews?
1:15:49
Really. See, this attitude is why you're
1:15:51
losing when you say. Who am I losing to?
1:15:53
People? Who am I losing to?
1:15:55
Who am I losing to? You're seeing it mass migration,
1:15:57
Matt. Oh, you're losing?
1:15:58
To people like. Losing as the civilization of
1:16:00
mass migration. And here's the difference.
1:16:02
In Israel, they have my politics.
1:16:04
In Israel, they want to maintain a Jewish majority.
1:16:07
If they had it their way, it would only be Jewish people.
1:16:09
They're fighting like hell so that Jewish people can have as
1:16:11
much territory, a Jewish state. They can be proudly Jewish in
1:16:14
their own land. Whereas in America we are being
1:16:17
besieged by 10 million illegal immigrants in four years, and
1:16:19
then whites and Christians are going to be the minority.
1:16:22
And that's true in Canada, Australia, all the countries in
1:16:24
Europe. So you could say there's 2
1:16:26
billion people, but what's the proportionality?
1:16:28
What is the percentage of people being born that are white?
1:16:30
Where's the arrow pointing? Where are we going to be in 50
1:16:32
years? In 50 years there might be an
1:16:34
Israel, In 50 years there isn't going.
1:16:35
To be a white Christian, you don't.
1:16:37
You don't believe people should get married, right?
1:16:40
I think people should get married.
1:16:41
I'm a Christian. You're basically anti marriage
1:16:42
really. You've you've talked about this,
1:16:43
you've talked. About Are we done talking about
1:16:45
white genitals? You don't think people should
1:16:47
get married? I think people should get
1:16:49
married. You're basically anti marriage
1:16:50
though. It's like, do you fucking listen
1:16:53
you fucking retard peers? What I'm coming to, I'm coming
1:16:56
to the same part because you seem very resistant to the idea
1:16:59
of marriage. You've never got married.
1:17:00
You've talked very scathingly about henpecked husbands.
1:17:03
Just take a look. That's true.
1:17:04
Guys get to a certain age and they're like, you know what?
1:17:06
Women suck? Like they're talking too much.
1:17:09
They're not hot anymore. Like you're fat, you're chubby,
1:17:12
you're not as hot as you think you are.
1:17:13
You fucking talk too much. You're a bitch.
1:17:16
So we'll obviously get to the brazen misogyny part of that a
1:17:18
little later, but but I'm just. Curious.
1:17:21
On. 1. Hand there's this terrible
1:17:22
genocide going on of white people.
1:17:24
On the other hand, you want people effectively to stop going
1:17:27
near women 'cause they all turn out to be so ghastly, so they
1:17:29
shouldn't presumably be procreate.
1:17:31
So how does that work? I mean, aren't you with your
1:17:34
rhetoric? Because you don't want men to go
1:17:37
marry whores and trad larpers. You your anti marriage.
1:17:41
Like, shut the fuck up, Pierce. Actively encouraging men not to
1:17:46
associate with these ghastly women, therefore not have any
1:17:49
more children. Therefore you are contributing
1:17:52
Nick Fuentes to the diminishing white population.
1:17:55
I I'm confused. I tell my followers to get
1:17:59
married all the time. I tell them that it's best for
1:18:01
everybody to get married, and I think that's the only way that
1:18:03
you can have sex. I think that's the only illicit
1:18:05
way as a Catholic. Why do you have?
1:18:06
Sex is within marriage. Why don't you get married?
1:18:09
I'll get married later. It's been difficult for me
1:18:11
because people are shooting at me at my house.
1:18:13
I don't know that I, I don't want to have kids and a wife,
1:18:15
You know, my wife would be screaming about that.
1:18:17
Me, you know, I have to be able to take risks and be able to say
1:18:20
these things. It's difficult to bring a family
1:18:22
into a life that's like that. But for my followers, I tell
1:18:24
them to get married. But what's happening with women?
1:18:26
You literally just told your followers hang on in that clip
1:18:29
you literally told followers women they get old, they get
1:18:31
fat, they get ugly, they get very annoying.
1:18:34
So where's the incentive to get married to women?
1:18:36
There isn't 1 you're act, you're actively telling them you're.
1:18:39
Extrapolating. You're extrapolating a lot, just
1:18:41
pointing. You just pointing you back.
1:18:42
Here the only time there like the reason there's not a lot of
1:18:45
reason to get married and the the best argument is is they
1:18:48
made no fault divorce legal. Like a woman could divorce you
1:18:51
take half your shit for no reason that that's a reason not
1:18:55
to get married. I mean other than that though
1:18:57
people should be getting married.
1:18:58
But it's like be smart when you do it, don't rush it.
1:19:02
They don't marry a whore or a woman is an ex whore.
1:19:04
It's health ago. No, no, But you're extrapolating
1:19:06
and saying, well, you say women are annoying, so therefore
1:19:09
what's the incentive? We have to do it in spite of the
1:19:11
fact that they are annoying. We have to do it in spite of the
1:19:13
fact that they talk too much. We can get them to lose weight,
1:19:16
we can put them on peptides, we can get them to the promised
1:19:18
land. But it's going to be.
1:19:20
Do you think this view of women may be why none of them want to
1:19:22
go near you? Oh, you should see my DMS.
1:19:25
It is quite the opposite. They're called the Groy bets and
1:19:27
I'm I'm actually batting them away.
1:19:29
Granted, not all them are attractive.
1:19:31
Some of them are attractive. Oh, you actually just to clear
1:19:33
up, just to clear up one of the many theories about you.
1:19:35
I have no idea what the answer is and you haven't got an
1:19:37
answer, but are you actually attracted to women?
1:19:40
I am attracted to women. You're not gay.
1:19:42
No, but I will say that women are very difficult to be around,
1:19:47
so there's that. And do you think they should
1:19:49
have the right to vote? No.
1:19:51
I do not. No, absolutely not.
1:19:53
I should stay at home. Yes.
1:19:55
Well, yeah, absolutely. So basically you're just a
1:19:58
misogynist old dinosaur, aren't you?
1:20:00
For a, for a young guy? I mean, I know I'm the boomer, I
1:20:02
know I'm the boomer here, but actually you're a 27 year old
1:20:05
dinosaur, aren't you? Aren't you, Nick Fuentes?
1:20:07
All women, all women are annoying.
1:20:09
All women grow old. They all get fat, says the guy.
1:20:12
Have you ever had sex? No, absolutely not.
1:20:15
Wow, says the guy who's never got laid.
1:20:18
That's the thing though, you boomers, It's always.
1:20:19
You've never got laid. Yeah, we're, we are going back
1:20:25
to the Stone Age. You're absolutely right.
1:20:26
This you know, you're talking about empathy and your kids.
1:20:29
He's like saying you haven't got laid, like that's a female
1:20:31
argument. He's a fucking Catholic.
1:20:33
He's waiting till marriage. So Pierce has the problem if
1:20:36
Nick criticizes something in the Jewish religion.
1:20:39
But because Nick is sticking to his guns in the Catholic
1:20:42
religion and not losing his virginity until marriage, which
1:20:46
is the Catholic belief and how true Catholics practice.
1:20:50
He can make fun of that though. So he can make fun of things
1:20:52
with Catholics, but he can't with Jews.
1:20:54
And Pierce calls himself a Catholic but then he's making
1:20:56
jokes. You haven't got laid.
1:20:58
Like shut the fuck up you retard.
1:21:01
Are empathetic and they would never laugh at a joke about the
1:21:03
Holocaust. And you're a misogynist.
1:21:05
You're a simp yourself. You're totally hen packed.
1:21:07
That's the problem. So.
1:21:08
Then we play. We play another another clip of
1:21:10
yours about women. A lot of women want to be raped
1:21:14
in When I say raped, I mean like that sounds bad when I say it
1:21:18
like that. But there's like a lot of women
1:21:19
that really want a guy to beat the shit out of him.
1:21:23
But also they have to pretend, but part of it is they have to
1:21:26
pretend like they don't. You think women want to be
1:21:29
raped? That's what the studies show,
1:21:31
Piers. That is what these.
1:21:32
Statistics. You believe they?
1:21:33
Have fantasies, they have fantasies about it.
1:21:35
I don't think that they want to actually get raped, but there's
1:21:38
a study out there. Get ready for this.
1:21:40
It says 62% of women have rape fantasies.
1:21:43
And if you read anything that they're reading, if you watched
1:21:45
what they're watching, what do you think 50 Shades of Grey is
1:21:47
about? What do you think Twilight is
1:21:48
about? I mean, that's just.
1:21:49
True. Do you think women want to have
1:21:51
the ship beaten out of them as you said?
1:21:54
Yeah, and it's very disturbing, but it's true.
1:21:56
Do you? Think your views on women might
1:21:58
change if you actually never had a relationship with one or had
1:22:01
sex and that she had a proper relationship.
1:22:03
I mean, people say the reason you're so angry about women is
1:22:05
you're basically an insult. I'm not angry about it.
1:22:09
As someone who has had multiple relationships with women and I
1:22:13
don't claim to be a virgin, I have had sex before, I agree
1:22:17
with Nick completely. I don't think that changes it.
1:22:19
I think you actually see it even more when you see how easy some
1:22:23
women will just give it up. You're like, OK, these women are
1:22:25
terrible. And then when you see how some
1:22:28
of these women talk, especially when they're talking just among
1:22:30
girls, and then when you also see, again, like Nick said, what
1:22:34
they're reading and what they're watching, 50 Shades of Grey is
1:22:37
literally like a BDSM book. So again, shut the fuck up,
1:22:41
ears. You sound very angry.
1:22:43
You sound very, very angry about women.
1:22:46
They get passionate. You're.
1:22:48
Passionate you're actually you're sounding very bitter
1:22:50
about women as if as if women have done a terrible disservice
1:22:52
to you but when you don't have relationships, you don't have
1:22:55
sex when are they doing these terrible things to you this made
1:22:57
you so hateful towards women I'm.
1:22:59
Really curious. Was that I don't think that was
1:23:01
a hateful clip. I think I was laughing.
1:23:02
I said they want men to beat the shit out of them and I and
1:23:04
that's just true. I mean, when you look at the
1:23:06
state of modern women, all they do is lay in their bed, doom
1:23:10
stroll. They're chilling out, they're
1:23:12
getting a little look, they're getting a little fat.
1:23:14
It is what it is. I don't know what the average
1:23:15
weight is, but they're getting a little heavy.
1:23:16
And any guy that is playing the field these days will tell you
1:23:20
that. I mean, and I and I know a lot
1:23:21
of the Chads, I am an incel. I'm friends with a lot of Chads
1:23:24
like Bradley, Martin, Clavicular.
1:23:25
They agree with me. You know, they're sort of like
1:23:28
this alliance between the guys that don't have sex and the guys
1:23:30
that get the most sex. We know what women are about.
1:23:32
It's the guys in the middle, guys like you in the middle.
1:23:35
It's the beta male orbiters that say she's amazing.
1:23:37
You're a misogynistic pig. Because I don't know what that
1:23:40
is, I guess. Go on, let me explain to you.
1:23:41
Let me explain to you what I think it is.
1:23:43
I think when a 27 year old guy who's never got laid, never had
1:23:47
a meaningful relationship with a woman, says that women shouldn't
1:23:49
be allowed to vote, they should stay at home.
1:23:51
That all they do is fantasize about being raped and being
1:23:54
beaten up. That's what they want.
1:23:55
That they're annoying, That they get fat, that they get ugly.
1:23:59
That's a misogynist. Now you may not understand.
1:24:01
What about when a guy like me who has had meaningful
1:24:04
relationships has gotten laid like Pierce says, and still
1:24:08
feels the same way? How does that play out then?
1:24:11
Like, shut the fuck up, Pierce. There, because your knowledge of
1:24:14
women is so incredibly tiny, but actually you are the embodiment
1:24:18
of a misogynist. It couldn't be clearer.
1:24:20
And if I was, if I was a, you know, in a way you have the deep
1:24:23
rooted misogyny of some of the actual boomers I know.
1:24:26
Yeah. Here you are 27 years old.
1:24:28
And most of the current studies show that a lot of men are
1:24:31
really disenfranchised from society, no longer have physical
1:24:34
relationships with women if they've ever had them, never
1:24:37
associate with women and build up instinctively misogynist
1:24:40
views about women. And I I fear you're in that
1:24:43
position. You're just a bit of a lonely
1:24:44
guy who wants to get laid and can't for whatever reason, and
1:24:49
it's made you bitter about women.
1:24:50
And I, I don't know where that's where that's come from, but it's
1:24:52
fascinating. No, see, here's the thing.
1:24:55
First of all, you're very caught up in the labels.
1:24:57
It's always you're a racist, you're a misogynist, you're.
1:25:00
Saying you're a racist. Thing to me you gave yourself,
1:25:02
can I respond? You gave yourself the label.
1:25:04
You said I am a racist. Should we take a shot every time
1:25:07
Piers in a row here? Fuentes I am a racist?
1:25:10
Calm down. Calm.
1:25:11
Down Did you or didn't you? Yeah, yeah.
1:25:14
But I. Didn't give you the label, you
1:25:16
did. Why are you yelling at me?
1:25:18
Because you're trying to. Why are you screaming at me?
1:25:19
Something that didn't happen? You said I gave you the label of
1:25:22
being a racist. No, you did.
1:25:24
You said I'm a racist. You gave yourself a label.
1:25:27
You're. Going to have to tone it down a
1:25:29
little, all right? You're going to have to bring it
1:25:31
down a notch and relax. This is just an interview, OK?
1:25:33
Please calm down. All I said is you're hung up.
1:25:36
I didn't say you gave me that. I maybe I did.
1:25:37
You did. But here's what I mean.
1:25:39
What I mean is OK, what I mean is you're just hung up on on
1:25:41
proving you're OK. You're a misogynist, OK?
1:25:43
You're a racist, OK. You denied the Holocaust and and
1:25:45
I'm just, I'm not about the labels.
1:25:47
Man, as I said to you, look Nick, as I said to you, I just
1:25:51
wanted to go over the stuff that, you know, everyone uses
1:25:53
out there about you and get you to respond.
1:25:55
And we're getting, we are getting, I think, a long way in
1:25:57
this interview, OK, you didn't deny the Holocaust.
1:26:00
You accepted there's been a Holocaust of at least 6,000,000
1:26:03
Jews. That's maximal.
1:26:05
That is significant. You didn't admit you're a
1:26:07
racist. And you have spelled out a
1:26:10
thought process about women, which is the purest definition
1:26:12
of misogyny that I've ever seen. And you've said you're not gay.
1:26:16
So we're getting somewhere. Yeah, well, look, and I own the
1:26:19
labels, OK, but I just don't care that much about that.
1:26:21
That's fine. I feel like the whole I'm.
1:26:22
Not saying this. Is like a weird.
1:26:24
I'm not saying you have to care, Nick.
1:26:25
You don't have to care about any of it, I promise you, right?
1:26:28
That's not why I got you on the on the show.
1:26:30
I wanted to give you a fair crack, which I think I have.
1:26:32
We've gone over a lot of stuff we've got, we've got a bit more
1:26:34
to go on. I, I genuinely don't think I've
1:26:36
ambushed you with anything you couldn't have been expecting.
1:26:38
No, I don't think I've been overly hostile.
1:26:40
In fact, when you've asked me to calm down, I've calmed down.
1:26:42
I don't want to have a hostile, angry shouting match with you.
1:26:45
I simply want you to spell out exactly what you've meant about
1:26:48
all these things. And people can then be the judge
1:26:49
of them. So let's take another break and
1:26:51
we'll come back and talk about Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson,
1:26:54
Candace Owens and others. Nick's mugging the shit out of
1:26:59
him right now. I mean, this is crazy.
1:27:01
He's like literally just throwing the dumbest shit at
1:27:04
Nick right now and he's dismantling all of it.
1:27:07
Information your activity? Fine.
1:27:09
I'm painting iuseit.com to scan the QR.
1:27:13
OK, back with Nick Fuentes. You began your show in 2017, the
1:27:16
same year as Trump was inaugurated for his first term
1:27:19
in office. You supported him at that time,
1:27:21
but you've grown increasingly disillusioned.
1:27:23
I think it'd be fair to say. Let's let's play a recent clip
1:27:25
from you about Trump. We played this game in the first
1:27:28
term. We're ten years in and you still
1:27:31
have these people. I, I hate to say it, but they're
1:27:33
just like in denial. And they're like, OK, everybody,
1:27:36
let's all go on Twitter and let's tell Trump don't screw
1:27:40
over your voters, OK? Hey, Trump, don't hire John
1:27:44
Radcliffe and the CIA. Like, what are we doing?
1:27:47
It's we lost. It's over.
1:27:48
The time to make demands was during the election when he
1:27:51
needed the votes. He's a lame dog president and he
1:27:54
doesn't need anything from us. He's not even on Twitter.
1:27:56
He's on Truth Social. So what are you talking about?
1:27:59
We're going to all rally and tell him don't hire yet another
1:28:02
neo con. So over the weekend you posted
1:28:05
this on X, you said performative cruelty is the perfect phrase to
1:28:09
characterize the Trump admin and the mood of the MAGA movement.
1:28:11
In order to compensate for his compromises and failures, Trump
1:28:14
has to fall back on mean spiritedness to appeal to the
1:28:16
basis basis instincts of his followers.
1:28:19
It's really sad. I mean, do you think you're the
1:28:20
best person, Nick Wentz to lecture people about
1:28:22
performative cruelty? Why are you accusing me of being
1:28:26
cruel? Is that what that is?
1:28:27
Yeah. What?
1:28:29
How am I cruel? You're you're cruel about black
1:28:31
people. You're cruel about women.
1:28:34
I mean, you call about a lot of people and you're very
1:28:36
performative. OK, I don't think I'm
1:28:38
performative. If anything, everyone else is
1:28:40
performative. I'm authentic.
1:28:41
You know, whatever you want to say about me, it's it's real.
1:28:43
It's from the gut. But yes, I do think it's
1:28:45
performative. And what I mean by that is, you
1:28:47
know, when they're doing the deportations, they know the
1:28:50
deportations are not where the base wants them to be.
1:28:53
They deported. The figures are disputed.
1:28:55
But from my data, it's 300,000 in the year, which is not a
1:28:57
massive deportation. They know the base is unhappy
1:29:00
with that. So what do they do?
1:29:01
The deportations that they are carrying out, they do a big
1:29:04
spectacle and they arrest everybody and they film it and
1:29:07
they put a hype at it. And there's a meanness in there.
1:29:09
They play that song from Sabrina Carpenter or something, and they
1:29:13
make it a joke. They make a glib, and they do
1:29:14
that because they're not delivering on the promise.
1:29:17
So they compensate by doing it meaner, edgier, more, more mean
1:29:21
spirited so that the base will overlook the fact that it's not
1:29:24
happening. And I think that's by
1:29:25
definition, performative cruelty.
1:29:26
You can call me a hypocrite, but it's definitely true about what
1:29:29
they're doing in the administration.
1:29:30
You went to see Trump at Merlago with Yay for dinner.
1:29:33
What was that like? It was very interesting.
1:29:36
They're my 2 heroes. Yay is my hero.
1:29:38
Trump is my hero. Even though he's very
1:29:40
disappointing, I still have personal hero of mine and he's a
1:29:43
remarkable person. It was a great conversation.
1:29:45
We got along pretty well. He liked me, I liked him.
1:29:47
It was the love fest. I mean he got attacked
1:29:49
afterwards for something with the white supremacist devil.
1:29:52
I mean, do you accept you are a white supremacist?
1:29:55
No, no, absolutely not. You don't think white people are
1:29:59
superior to black people? No, I'm I'm a Christian so I
1:30:02
believe everybody is equal before God.
1:30:04
Including women. Yes.
1:30:06
So you you give women equal rights?
1:30:08
No. No, it's a different.
1:30:11
It's a different. No.
1:30:14
What is? Why are you like, mad about
1:30:16
this? No.
1:30:17
You want women to be treated equally before God, but you
1:30:19
don't want to give them equal. Rights, yeah.
1:30:21
Because women and men are. Different.
1:30:23
No. Do you think there's two
1:30:24
genders? I do think there are two
1:30:25
genders, yes. OK.
1:30:26
And and so you mean there's distinction?
1:30:28
There are two distinct genders. I think we should all have the
1:30:30
same rights. Well, if they're meaningfully
1:30:33
distinct, biologically distinct, and they have different social
1:30:36
and biological roles, I think it would follow that we would treat
1:30:39
them a little bit differently in the law.
1:30:40
Do you think the Catholic Church's teachings reflect that?
1:30:43
I do, yeah. There's no female priests.
1:30:45
Have you ever seen that? Do you think that the Catholic
1:30:47
Church thinks all women should be deprived of vote?
1:30:50
Yeah, I think so. No.
1:30:52
They don't. I think they do, yeah.
1:30:54
You think the Catholic Church position is women shouldn't be
1:30:56
allowed to vote? I think so.
1:30:59
Yeah, no, I'm not positive. No, it's bullshit.
1:31:01
It should be. It should be so if you were
1:31:03
Pope, that's what you do. You could be Pope because you're
1:31:04
celibate. That's true.
1:31:07
And I'm also from Chicago, like the Pope.
1:31:09
But look, I mean women it it says in the Bible that women
1:31:11
have no authority over men and they can't teach men, and that's
1:31:13
why there's no female priests. So there's a lot of things.
1:31:15
I mean, do you think, do you take every word of the Bible a
1:31:17
sacrosanct? Well, yeah, it's inspired
1:31:20
scripture. That's all of it.
1:31:22
I mean, it's just now, all of it.
1:31:24
Is theological debate, well, it's, it is Catholic doctrine
1:31:27
that women should not lead and teach.
1:31:28
I mean, you're, you're not interacting with what I'm
1:31:30
saying. Why can't women be priests?
1:31:32
They should be. OK, well, you're not Catholic.
1:31:34
That's not a gal. I'm.
1:31:35
Definitely many things I disagree with you.
1:31:38
He just said women should be priests.
1:31:43
It's like a non denominational bullshit belief.
1:31:47
Piers is. Piers is so disappointed.
1:31:50
Like not that I expect appears to be better than this.
1:31:52
I know he's a disingenuous retarded cunt but it's like is
1:31:55
he really this retarded? This is crazy.
1:31:59
Catholic Church. Well, that kind of contrary
1:32:01
because the whole, the whole basis of being Catholic is
1:32:03
accepting you. Can be a member of the context.
1:32:06
You can be a member of a religion and disagree with parts
1:32:08
of that religion. Perfectly, perfectly reasonable.
1:32:10
You could be. Well, yeah, I mean, you could.
1:32:12
See, you're an extremist, True. Very extremist.
1:32:14
You can't, obviously. You never deviate.
1:32:15
It's just not rigorous. You never deviate.
1:32:16
You're an extremist. But even the Constitution, even
1:32:18
the Constitution's been amended. Was it 27 times people were
1:32:21
talking about this sacrosanct document, like been amended 27
1:32:23
times? Yeah.
1:32:24
Oh my, this is not rigorous intellectually.
1:32:26
This is very and. This is tabular fact.
1:32:28
Theology. OK, but it's fine.
1:32:30
Where were we? We're talking about Trump.
1:32:33
On Trump, you're Wayne. Knighting for women's rights.
1:32:34
On Trump, I think women should have the same rights for.
1:32:36
You. That's fine.
1:32:37
Put on the pink hat, bro. Put on the the pink hat.
1:32:40
We're waiting. What's the pink cat for?
1:32:42
The for the March, for the Women's March.
1:32:43
Are we going to see you at the Women's March protesting for
1:32:45
women's rights and all that? I think women should have equal
1:32:47
rights to men, period. You.
1:32:48
Carry tampons in case your female friends get a period or
1:32:50
something like it's crazy. I have no problem.
1:32:53
I have no problem giving a female friend a tampon.
1:32:55
Would you? Have you ever?
1:32:56
I don't suppose you've ever seen a tampon, have you?
1:32:59
Gross. Absolutely not.
1:33:00
You think tampons are gross? Yeah.
1:33:03
They're really period blood. Yeah, it's kind of gross.
1:33:05
Are you into that? You like that?
1:33:07
You've. Got a lot of.
1:33:08
I don't think you've ever seen it, have you?
1:33:10
I've seen them, I've seen them. Before you've been that close to
1:33:12
a woman, really. No, I've I've seen them look I I
1:33:16
using videos to live with. Women.
1:33:17
I bet you've seen them around the house.
1:33:18
I bet you've seen videos, haven't you?
1:33:20
What? What are we doing here?
1:33:22
Piers, You really hate that you're more impressed that I'm a
1:33:25
misogynist than you are about anything.
1:33:27
It's. Really, I'm I'm more I'm
1:33:28
actually more exercised about your blatant self admitted
1:33:31
racism than I am about I see anything but the misogyny runs a
1:33:34
close second. Let me ask you about Tucker
1:33:36
Carlson because you had a long sit down with Tucker Carlson,
1:33:38
which he was oddly, I like Tucker.
1:33:40
We got home. I was with him last week in
1:33:41
London, but he gave me a harder time and he gives you and then
1:33:44
afterwards he was more critical. And then you said this about
1:33:47
Tucker. He's a handler.
1:33:50
He handles people. That's what he does.
1:33:52
He's he's a fucking liar and a handler.
1:33:54
He goes around telling people, I don't know anything.
1:33:57
I don't know. Oh, I know nothing.
1:33:58
I don't even have a phone. I am just a clueless tourist.
1:34:01
I just travel to all these countries and you know, I don't
1:34:06
trust him and I don't, and I don't care.
1:34:08
You know, maybe that alienates me from people in the
1:34:11
conservative movement. I don't care.
1:34:12
I'm not going to be a part of it.
1:34:14
I'm not going to be a party to whatever that is, whatever that
1:34:16
CIA bullshit is, I'm not going to be a part of it.
1:34:19
So, you know, now that I've, I've heard enough from Tucker
1:34:24
and I've heard enough from other people and I've seen enough.
1:34:26
This guy's not always says he is not an ally.
1:34:29
Stay the fuck away from me. You're you're weird, dude.
1:34:31
You're weird. See, what would have been great
1:34:33
is if you'd said that to him when you were sitting opposite
1:34:35
him. Well when I was sitting opposite
1:34:38
him at the dinner and in the interview he was nothing but
1:34:40
nice. He was very nice to me and very
1:34:42
cordial and he didn't call me an anti semite and he didn't even
1:34:45
press me on it at all. And I thought he would and I
1:34:47
almost wanted him to. He was nothing but nice and we
1:34:50
had a great time. We had a really great dinner,
1:34:52
really great interview and I felt really good about it.
1:34:54
And the next week on my show I said he really surprised me.
1:34:56
He's great. And then in every interview he's
1:34:59
done since, all he does is call me an anti semite.
1:35:01
He goes, well, I, I hate his anti-Semitism.
1:35:03
And you know, I, I wonder why people like him.
1:35:05
And so I just think that's two faced.
1:35:07
So after that experience, it kind of turned me off.
1:35:09
I didn't like that. But he's going to do what he's
1:35:11
going to do. He's still a nice guy but I
1:35:12
think he's 2 faced. What about Candace Owens?
1:35:16
You had to sit down with her. She called you out a few of your
1:35:18
more incendiary comments. You've been attacking her quite
1:35:21
virulently recently. What's going on there?
1:35:26
Well, you know, it's me and her. We're so complicated.
1:35:29
We're on and off. It's very passionate on both
1:35:31
sides. You know, there, I think there's
1:35:34
this intense desire to be friends, but a frustration where
1:35:38
we disagree with each other. There's a rivalry.
1:35:41
But I thought we were going to have a friendly conversation.
1:35:43
And then she kind of did the same thing.
1:35:45
We're going to go on a show during the war with Iran.
1:35:47
We're literally in the middle of a war.
1:35:49
And she texted me the day before the United States bombed
1:35:51
Fordeau. And she said, would you like to
1:35:52
come on my show? I said absolutely.
1:35:54
I said, is this going to be about Iran?
1:35:55
She goes, I don't do setups. I said, yeah, let's do it.
1:35:58
I come on the show. And then she's like got this
1:36:01
weird hostile demeanor. She's doing the clip thing.
1:36:03
Then she puts it behind a pay wall.
1:36:05
It was ridiculous. So that that really was not
1:36:08
nice. And then I think this whole
1:36:09
Charlie Kirk thing, I think she's gone insane.
1:36:11
I think she's absolutely lost her mind so I feel sorry for her
1:36:15
husband. What did you feel when Charlie
1:36:17
Kirk was assassinated? Where were you when you heard
1:36:19
about him? I was at my house and a friend
1:36:23
of mine who was actually at the event texted me.
1:36:25
I said Charlie got shot. I said who?
1:36:26
He said Charlie Kirk. I said, Oh my gosh, that's
1:36:28
terrible. And, and honestly, it was
1:36:29
devastating. I didn't like Charlie Kirk at
1:36:31
all and we had an intense rivalry and he hated me.
1:36:34
But honest to God, I was devastated.
1:36:36
I was emotionally affected by it.
1:36:37
I didn't even do a show that night because I was beside
1:36:39
myself. So it was rough.
1:36:41
I mean, it was hard to watch. When you say you were beside
1:36:43
yourself, I mean you didn't. You hated him.
1:36:46
I didn't, I don't hate anybody. I didn't hate him, but we I
1:36:49
really didn't like him. I intensely disliked him and.
1:36:51
I He called you vermin, didn't he?
1:36:53
He did, yeah. He hated me also but.
1:36:56
You were still beside yourself when you heard what happened to.
1:36:58
Him. Yeah, I was.
1:36:59
I was. I thought it was.
1:37:00
It was. Like, I disagreed with Charlie
1:37:02
on a lot, but I literally same as Nick, I took a couple days
1:37:05
off the show because it's like it was one of the saddest
1:37:08
things, one of the hardest things.
1:37:10
I mean, to watch a guy I'd watched my whole life get
1:37:14
assassinated in such a brutal, graphic way and to see it in 4K
1:37:18
over and over and over again. I mean, you'd scroll through X
1:37:21
and all you saw post after post was the video of it.
1:37:26
Yeah, I mean, it was, it was heartbreaking and gut wrenching
1:37:28
to all of us except for the fucking liberals who celebrated.
1:37:33
And Nick is part of that as well.
1:37:34
Nick is one of the people who, again, he disagreed with Charlie
1:37:38
on a lot. They, they were kind of enemies
1:37:40
in a lot of ways. But Nick is a Catholic.
1:37:42
He doesn't wish death upon anyone.
1:37:44
He doesn't hate anybody. He might dislike him, but he
1:37:47
never would want him to die. He's a father, he's a husband.
1:37:51
It's fucking ridiculous. Pierre's is so disingenuous.
1:37:55
Disgusting what was done to him and it was tragic and it was
1:37:57
horrifying. Do you fear an attack like that
1:38:01
on yourself if you up your own security because of this?
1:38:03
Because your your profile's got it exponentially higher since
1:38:06
what happened to Charlie Kirk. I have, I have increased my
1:38:10
security and, but you know, something similar like that
1:38:12
happened to me, someone came to my house with a gun about a year
1:38:15
ago almost exactly trying to kill me.
1:38:17
And he was shot and killed in my alleyway.
1:38:19
So I, I've had increased security for a while.
1:38:21
It's, it's a bad time out there. And I, I do believe it was a
1:38:23
left wing person that killed him.
1:38:24
I think it was a left wing person that tried to kill me.
1:38:26
So yeah, I take it very seriously.
1:38:28
Elon Musk said on his his ex platform that you're a Fed,
1:38:32
you're a paid up hire of the government.
1:38:34
Is that true? No 100, we've never worked for
1:38:39
the government in any capacity. I've never talked to federal law
1:38:42
enforcement and, and actually I've testified to that fact,
1:38:44
Underoath, when I was subpoenaed by the Congress.
1:38:46
People leave that part out, but I got subpoenaed I think in
1:38:49
January 2022, I think it was. And I was deposed by the
1:38:54
subcommittee, the House Select Subcommittee on January 6th.
1:38:56
And they asked me, did you speak with any federal law enforcement
1:38:59
and Underoath I said no, I've never had contact with them.
1:39:01
I've never turned over devices. So no, absolutely not.
1:39:05
There's been footage that's come out again this week.
1:39:06
This is you at the January the 6th riots.
1:39:09
Let's. Take.
1:39:23
A look. Now you're heard there shouting
1:39:42
down your loud hailer. Breakdown the barriers and
1:39:45
disregard the police. The capital belongs to us now.
1:39:48
What did you mean by that? I.
1:39:50
Think it's pretty self-explanatory.
1:39:52
The capital belongs to the people.
1:39:54
Disregard the police so you don't support law and order.
1:39:59
No, I support law and order, but on that day.
1:40:01
The police were brutal. The police killed somebody,
1:40:04
Ashley Babbitt, and you know, they were throwing people off of
1:40:07
the rafters. They they killed multiple
1:40:08
people, so. Disregarding the police is a is
1:40:11
the the first step to anarchy, isn't it?
1:40:14
Well, I think the first step to anarchy is when the government
1:40:16
rigs the election, which is what happened, that that is when the
1:40:18
government loses its legitimacy and its enforcers consequently
1:40:22
do also. Because the government didn't.
1:40:24
There is no evidence the government rigged the election.
1:40:26
You know that you're a bright guy.
1:40:28
Let's talk about it. You want to talk about the
1:40:30
election of 2020? Yeah, I think Trump lost in fair
1:40:32
and square. I I think he thought the wrong
1:40:34
argument about the storm election.
1:40:35
I've said to him to his face, I agree.
1:40:37
The argument he should have said is that the deliberate
1:40:39
suppression of things like the Hunter Biden laptop scandal from
1:40:43
the media, by social media, by big tech was actually a
1:40:47
deliberate attempt to subvert the result of the election.
1:40:49
And that's a much better argument because it's undeniable
1:40:52
when the New York Post that had that exclusive would basically
1:40:55
shadow banned off all social media for the two weeks before
1:40:57
the election, that was an absolute disgrace.
1:41:00
And if I was Donald Trump, I would focus on that as being my
1:41:03
main argument, that that election was slanted against him
1:41:07
when he goes off into saying that there was widespread
1:41:10
rigging and voter systems were wrong.
1:41:12
We've litigated all this now through various court cases.
1:41:15
Various Republican judges have ruled there was no rigging of
1:41:18
that kind. In fact, the American election
1:41:19
system is accepted by most people around the world as being
1:41:23
one of the best in the world, one of the most reliable.
1:41:25
So I just think he fought the wrong argument.
1:41:26
If he said the deliberate suppression of damaging stories
1:41:29
to the Bidens, which could have swung the election, was
1:41:32
outrageous and unacceptable, I'm 100% behind him.
1:41:36
But by by building the spurious argument that it was all rigged
1:41:39
through voting systems and so on, he lost me.
1:41:42
Well, I agree about the voting systems, but you know, when they
1:41:45
went into the machines, I think that was ridiculous.
1:41:47
However, what has to be accounted for is that in 2016,
1:41:51
35% of the votes were cast by mail.
1:41:53
By 20/20 it was 70% because of the pandemic.
1:41:56
So you double the amount of votes that happened by mail.
1:41:58
They called it in person early voting, they called it a variety
1:42:01
of different things. And the other thing that they
1:42:02
changed is they solicited mail in ballots.
1:42:05
So they sent ballots to people's houses.
1:42:07
And once you do that, I mean, you, you have absentee balloting
1:42:09
normally, but it's a process. You got to give your Social
1:42:11
Security number, your ID, they sent it to you.
1:42:13
There's regulations in place. This is an election where they
1:42:15
double the amount of mail in votes and they solicited, they
1:42:17
sent ballots to people's houses. And when you do that, you break
1:42:20
the chain of custody. So they send the ballot out and
1:42:22
then they tell people return it at a 24 hour ballot drop site
1:42:26
that's unsupervised or thousands of them.
1:42:28
And they're going to hope that all the ballots that find their
1:42:30
way into these drop boxes were filled out by the person that
1:42:33
the ballot was intended for. And I know that didn't happen.
1:42:35
I'll tell you why. My uncle has been dead for 26
1:42:37
years. He got a ballot in 2020.
1:42:39
It was mailed to my parents house.
1:42:41
And you know, that was happening in nursing homes.
1:42:43
You know that was happening in apartment buildings.
1:42:45
But you also know that every independent body that has looked
1:42:48
at this has concluded there was no widespread rigging, that it
1:42:51
was a free and fair election and Trump lost.
1:42:54
And the bottom line is he should stop going about it anyway
1:42:56
because he won back the White House in in 2024.
1:42:59
But you're OK. Well, as, as you have been so
1:43:01
keen to tell me, move on, right? No one wants to look back too
1:43:04
far. That's a separate argument.
1:43:06
I mean, you can say that he should stop.
1:43:07
Talking Nobody wants to look back too far, but Pierce says he
1:43:10
still hung up on things from the early 1900s.
1:43:13
OK, buddy. Think about it.
1:43:15
But whether it was rigged or not is actually relevant to what
1:43:17
happened on January 6th, because what happened on J6 is people
1:43:20
were outraged about it. People were furious that and by
1:43:22
the way, there's never been an independent ballot audit in all
1:43:25
the states where there was alleged to be rigging.
1:43:28
That has not happened. And certainly it did not happen
1:43:30
up until January 6th. And people said this is
1:43:32
ridiculous, they're stealing it, you know?
1:43:34
There's people honestly, if either you will run on Trump.
1:43:36
Anybody else wants to show me? I said this to him when I
1:43:38
interviewed him last. You know, if you show me the
1:43:39
actual hardcore incontrovertible evidence, then great.
1:43:44
I've never seen it. Joe Rogan asked him.
1:43:46
He didn't produce it with Joe Rogan.
1:43:48
It's just never been produced. But look, I, I don't want to
1:43:50
label the point on that. I suppose a more interesting
1:43:52
question now as your influence rises in the conservative
1:43:55
movement in America and there's a lot of splits going on amongst
1:43:58
manga over a number of issues and about you and you know,
1:44:02
this, is your split with Trump irrevocable.
1:44:04
Do you feel now, as we head towards the year of the
1:44:07
midterms, that it's time to now look to who his successor will
1:44:10
be and who do you think that person should be?
1:44:13
Well, it's not irrevocable, but I, I am very pessimistic about
1:44:16
this administration and succession is something that
1:44:19
I've been interested in for as long as I've been doing this
1:44:21
show. And I think it's very clear that
1:44:23
they are grooming JD Vance to be that successor.
1:44:25
And by they, I mean Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Peter Thiel.
1:44:28
There seems to be an organization that was put in
1:44:31
place roughly around 2022 when Peter Thiel was very active in
1:44:34
the midterm elections. He spent I think over $30
1:44:35
million, fifteen million for Vance, 15,000,000 for Masters,
1:44:39
spent a lot of money in a lot of other congressional races trying
1:44:42
to unseat the Republicans that voted for impeachment in 21.
1:44:45
And also building out a media market, building out a patronage
1:44:47
network, funding things like Passage Press, Sovereign house,
1:44:50
a number of other projects to create sort of like a
1:44:52
self-contained media ecosystem. And Vance is clearly the
1:44:55
selected nominee. That is who the interests watch
1:44:58
and they've been pushing for him very strongly.
1:45:00
So I think he's the heir apparent right now.
1:45:02
There's a forceful push. I've heard good things about
1:45:04
him. I've heard bad things about him,
1:45:05
too. And where I think it needs to go
1:45:07
is I think we need to return to the message from 2016, what
1:45:10
Trump said in the first election, which is we need to
1:45:13
drain the swamp. We need to get the money out of
1:45:14
politics, the Super PACs, the special interest.
1:45:17
Put America first in foreign policy and the wars, close the
1:45:20
border and deport the illegals and reindustrialize America,
1:45:23
bring back manufacturing, bring back jobs.
1:45:25
We're in this Cold War with China.
1:45:27
We need America to have productive capacity again.
1:45:29
We need America to have wealth. So I think whoever is going to
1:45:32
bring us back to that, that's who I'm going to support.
1:45:34
And I haven't seen enough from Vance yet.
1:45:36
You called JD Vance's wife Ajit. What does that mean?
1:45:38
It's a. Slur for Indians?
1:45:40
No. Geezer.
1:45:43
Well, you want the honest answer.
1:45:45
Because you're a racist. No, no, there's actually a
1:45:49
different reason. The reason why I said that if
1:45:52
you watch the whole show, did you watch that whole show?
1:45:54
No, but you've admitted you use that slur.
1:45:55
I'm just curious why you would use that about a woman with her.
1:45:58
I'll tell you. There's a really important
1:46:00
reason why, and This is why context matters.
1:46:02
If you look online at the people that are supporting JD Vance the
1:46:05
most, they are racist. They're racist also, let's say,
1:46:09
and they look at someone like myself, I don't support JD
1:46:11
Vance. And they say you're brown,
1:46:12
you're a third world list. They are gleefully participating
1:46:15
in the cruelty, you could say the performative cruelty of the
1:46:18
Trump administration. They say you're going back, you
1:46:20
have 100 days until you're being deported.
1:46:23
You're going into Crystal. And then they tell us to vote
1:46:25
for JD Vance. And so all I did on the show is
1:46:28
I said, you have basically racist chuds that post memes
1:46:32
about Indians all day on Twitter, memes about third
1:46:34
worldists and Palestinians even. But then they want to turn
1:46:37
around and support a guy who is said on Twitter, how dare you
1:46:40
say I'm racist? I have non white kids and I'm in
1:46:43
an interracial marriage. And all I said is that's I just
1:46:45
said that's a little ironic. I said that's hypocritical.
1:46:48
And Vance is going to have to explain to all of his supporters
1:46:50
who have gassed him up as the real, you know, the real mass
1:46:53
deportation candidate. He's going to have to explain to
1:46:55
them what's going on with that. What is with the contradiction?
1:46:58
Because. It is accountability for the
1:47:00
millions of young people that will hear you use that slur and
1:47:03
think it's fine to use it. What are?
1:47:06
No, no, I think that's ridiculous.
1:47:08
OK, let's take a final break and come back with a little kind of
1:47:11
summary of how you think this interview has gone for you.
1:47:14
OK, if you're a fan of Access. Who does this many commercial
1:47:19
breaks? Who does it?
1:47:20
Like, seriously? Dot com so you don't miss out.
1:47:25
Who does this Many. OK, next winter.
1:47:26
We've been talking for nearly two hours.
1:47:28
What is your view of how the interview has gone?
1:47:31
I think it was great. Honestly.
1:47:33
I, I think it was a tough interview.
1:47:35
You're a tough interviewer, but I don't think there were
1:47:37
surprises. I, I will not say it was an
1:47:39
ambush because it wasn't. I sort of anticipated that, that
1:47:42
you would make some choices about how you wanted it to go
1:47:44
and I was fine with it. So I I thought it was terrific.
1:47:47
As a Catholic, you're probably aware of the Jerusalem Post has
1:47:50
recently called on the Pope to openly condemn you.
1:47:52
Would it matter to you if the Pope did?
1:47:53
He's an American Pope, obviously.
1:47:56
It would be very disheartening, yes.
1:47:59
Why? Because he's our spiritual
1:48:02
leader. He's, he's the head of the
1:48:04
church, he's the vicar of Christ.
1:48:05
So if, if he condemned me, that would be very disheartening.
1:48:08
And it, it would depend upon what he would say exactly.
1:48:11
But yeah, I, I wouldn't like that.
1:48:12
I wouldn't like that. I.
1:48:13
Think he condemned you because you've openly admitted to being
1:48:15
a racist on this show? Well.
1:48:19
You know, this racist, I would be disappointed if he said that
1:48:21
because I think that word racist, it means something
1:48:23
different to everybody. And so I think that's just
1:48:26
silly. I think that's just semantic.
1:48:28
Have you ever been in love in your life?
1:48:32
No, not like romantically, no. Never.
1:48:35
No. You think that's part of the
1:48:37
problem? What?
1:48:39
What's the problem? Why you are the way you are.
1:48:43
Oh, what's the way I am? What are you trying to say?
1:48:45
I've given, I've given people two hours of the way you are.
1:48:48
You aren't ashamed about a lot of it.
1:48:51
I don't think I have a problem. I think I'm cheerful,
1:48:54
boisterous. Look, I unlike you, I'm willing
1:48:58
to be a little, well, I guess you're willing to be
1:48:59
provocative, but I'm willing to be very provocative.
1:49:01
And I'm a free thinker and I'm, I don't like to be told policed.
1:49:03
I don't like to be told about, you know, people are going to
1:49:06
tone police and play moral cop about you can't make this joke
1:49:09
or you can't make this statement.
1:49:10
And I think that's just about being intellectually open.
1:49:13
I'm a believer in openness. I completely agree.
1:49:15
I think you should be perfectly free to express yourself exactly
1:49:19
how you see fit. My problem is how you see fit
1:49:22
with some of the things that you say, and we've been through a
1:49:24
lot of them. And I think people who don't
1:49:26
know you very well would have been shocked in parts and
1:49:29
surprised in other parts, but in totality they can see you for
1:49:34
what you are. I think we've got a lot nearer
1:49:35
to what the real Nick Fuentes is in the last two hours than we
1:49:38
probably have seen from your other recent interviews.
1:49:40
Would you agree? No, I mean the the clip thing,
1:49:44
we've done the clip thing. We've all seen the clip show,
1:49:47
everyone's seen the clips. You think you're the first one
1:49:48
to do the ADL rap sheet. So here you said this and then
1:49:51
here you said that. I've been playing that game for
1:49:52
10 years. So I this is honestly more of
1:49:54
the same to tell you the truth. Nick Fuentes, I appreciate you
1:49:58
coming on on Censor. Thank you very much.
1:50:00
Thank you for having me. Well, my thanks to Dick Fuentes
1:50:04
and my thanks to the hundreds of thousands of you watching this
1:50:06
special live episode of Piers Morgan Uncensored.
1:50:08
As I said during the interview, I think it was firm but fair,
1:50:11
but you can all make up your own minds.
1:50:12
If you like what you do, please like and subscribe the channel
1:50:16
so that we can keep doing it back tomorrow.
1:50:17
Until then, whatever you're up to, keep it uncensored.
1:50:21
Keep it uncensored. But he he, he censors himself.
1:50:24
I want to do this. I want to let's refresh the
1:50:26
page. Let's see if we can get the
1:50:27
comments, like did they disable comments on this?
1:50:33
I'm really curious why are they not showing?
1:50:38
Really weird. Like am I just being retarded?
1:50:43
Am I doing something wrong? But where the fuck are the
1:50:45
comments? There we go.
1:50:47
OK here let me fix it on this screen so you guys can see them
1:50:51
too. I'm in the UK and got arrested
1:51:01
for watching this. Peers not understanding per
1:51:05
capita or Catholic doctrine was hilarious.
1:51:08
Peers pretends to be a Catholic and two minutes later attacks
1:51:11
Nick for being a virgin. The lack of self-awareness.
1:51:14
Yeah Peers is getting demolished right now.
1:51:16
You got a knife problem? You got a sword problem, you got
1:51:19
Aladdin. Peers resorting to virgin
1:51:21
insults pretty much sums up the whole thing.
1:51:23
Yeah exactly. Peers sounded like a retard when
1:51:26
Nick said it was probably 10 times worse than 6,000,000.
1:51:30
And Peers believed I climbed out of my secret tunnel in New York
1:51:35
City to watch this interview. The per capita portion of this
1:51:40
interview is enough to never take Pierce seriously in the
1:51:43
future ever again. I got kicked out of 109
1:51:47
countries to watch it. Yeah.
1:51:49
W comments. Is my mic working?
1:51:52
Yeah. Where?
1:51:52
It's like, can you puck and hear me, Pierce?
1:51:55
The interview was promised to US 3000 years ago.
1:51:57
Yep. You got a knife problem.
1:51:59
Yeah, why too soon genuinely made me laugh out loud. 60 year
1:52:04
old man taunting a 27 year old with Are you a virgin?
1:52:08
Wow, Nick really got to him. Peers pretending to not know per
1:52:11
capita will never not be funny. You guys.
1:52:14
Yeah, they keep repeating that one.
1:52:16
This interview is the perfect representation of the
1:52:19
anastoxinism between boomer and super conservatives.
1:52:23
Netanyahu and Ben Shapiro are having a heart attack.
1:52:26
I'm black and I've changed the batteries of my smoke alarm just
1:52:29
to watch this. That's W black guy.
1:52:33
Piers Morgan is trying so hard to get a gotcha moment.
1:52:35
Pierce stopped eating Curry to prepare for this interview.
1:52:39
Nick Fuentes lives in reality. Piers lives in a politically
1:52:41
correct fake reality. I mean every single comment
1:52:44
we've seen, literally every comment we've seen is in favour
1:52:46
of Nick. Every single comment we've seen
1:52:49
is shitting on Piers. I've yet to see one.
1:52:51
That's like, you know, Piers did a great job here.
1:52:53
Piers got Nick because no he didn't.
1:52:55
He sounded like a disingenuous retard.
1:52:59
I'm an Israeli pilot and I stopped strafing USS Liberty
1:53:02
lifeboats. Yeah, that's crazy.
1:53:05
That's that's crazy. I'm an Israeli.
1:53:08
I paused the immigration invasion of Europe to watch.
1:53:10
This is per capita racist. Piers, please.
1:53:13
We all see the game you play. Nick not being offended by being
1:53:16
called racist really stumped Piers.
1:53:19
Nick was trolling the entire show.
1:53:21
Yeah, Piers didn't get that. Again, that's the boomer
1:53:23
mentality. Piers is retarded.
1:53:24
He doesn't even understand it. I'm in the UK and I got arrested
1:53:28
for liking this video. I stopped paying my Jewish
1:53:30
lawyers to watch this. Now I lost my case.
1:53:33
Is it too soon Was the perfect response.
1:53:35
Boomer media is dying. Having peers apologize for
1:53:38
cutting Nick off is comedy. I cancelled my appointments for
1:53:42
this. I stopped lending money at a
1:53:44
300% interest rate to watch this.
1:53:47
I jumped off the USS Liberty to watch this interview.
1:53:51
The most hilarious part of the interview was Peers bringing up
1:53:54
random Nick clips, thinking he'll get defensive about it,
1:53:56
only for him to double down and stand by everything.
1:54:00
Yeah, exactly. Literally never back down.
1:54:02
Always double down. I stopped clipping my coins to
1:54:05
watch this program. This interview had the complete
1:54:09
opposite effect. Peers was hoping for it.
1:54:11
Yeah. I mean, this is great.
1:54:13
This was this was incredible. I don't know why it stopped.
1:54:18
The scrolling stopped on my It's not scrolling as I'm scrolling.
1:54:21
Let's see if I refresh it. Let's re.
1:54:28
Why is it? What's going on here?
1:54:30
What's what's going on? Let's say let's fix this.
1:54:35
Let's fix it. There we go Where?
1:54:51
Where are we? Where were we?
1:55:00
Piers Morgan's lack of self-awareness is pretty bad.
1:55:04
The whole me mommy dad repetition was the funniest
1:55:06
thing I've ever heard in an interview.
1:55:09
Say it with me per capita. The most hilarious part of this
1:55:13
interview was Piers bringing up Random Nicola.
1:55:15
Oh, wait, we already read that as an adult black man, Nick
1:55:18
Fuentes has a new follower. Bass black guy.
1:55:20
Let's go. Today I learned just how dumb
1:55:22
Pierce actually is. Pierce thought he was clever
1:55:25
playing a Daily Wire ad during this interview.
1:55:27
Pierce status griped. Yeah, the griping of America has
1:55:31
started. The way Nick Fuentes says 6 and
1:55:35
7 million was funny. You can see it in Pierre's face
1:55:38
that this interview didn't go the way he thought it would.
1:55:40
I suppose Catholic shaming a young brother for waiting till
1:55:44
marriage should tell you a lot about.
1:55:45
Exactly. That's the point I kept trying
1:55:46
to make. He kept, like, trying to shit on
1:55:48
Nick for waiting till marriage. But it's like, you call yourself
1:55:50
a Catholic. That's the Catholic belief.
1:55:52
And like, one of my biggest regrets is having premarital sex
1:55:55
if you're a true Catholic. Most Catholics feel the same.
1:55:59
The funniest part of this interview is Piers didn't even
1:56:01
know he got wrecked. Nick, no one cares about your
1:56:03
mom. Wang half.
1:56:04
Yep. Wang half.
1:56:06
Piers, you can't disagree with the Catholic Church in women's
1:56:09
rights. Piers 5 seconds later when he
1:56:11
disagrees with the Catholic Church.
1:56:12
You can be a member of a religion and disagree with parts
1:56:15
of that religion. Apparently Matt doesn't want to
1:56:18
Pierce strengths. Hold on a second, Nick.
1:56:21
I have to read this ad for the Daily Wire.
1:56:25
Yeah, that's how we're skipping the ads.
1:56:26
We don't. We don't need to watch Piers's
1:56:27
shitty ads. I'm a 48 year old Gen.
1:56:30
Xer and I'm so much more in line with Nick's view.
1:56:32
We're so tired of this Pearl clutching histronic outrage over
1:56:36
people's words or the questions they asked.
1:56:37
And that really is going to disappear when with the boomers.
1:56:40
Thank God. Piers acting like he didn't know
1:56:42
how bad black crime is was beyond dishonest.
1:56:45
This felt more like a comedy sketch than an interview.
1:56:48
Yeah exactly. Piers is such a bootlicker.
1:56:51
You know Piers is serious when it takes 52 minutes to get to
1:56:54
his first Admiral. Piers Fact Check team plus
1:56:57
chachi BT plus prepared talking points for his Nick in his
1:57:00
brain. Yep Nick demolish them.
1:57:02
I've never seen someone give you this big of a humiliation smack
1:57:05
down. This young man just did that.
1:57:07
Well I have literally. I mean again, what are we Like
1:57:11
how many comments? That's how many comments.
1:57:13
Every comment we've seen so far is pro Nick.
1:57:16
Not a single comment has been like Piers did.
1:57:18
Well, this is crazy. I'm Muslim.
1:57:24
I stop my mayor. Oh, I'm not even going to read
1:57:26
that out loud. That's crazy.
1:57:27
But that's funny. That's actually really funny.
1:57:33
Let's see. Where where are we?
1:57:34
I've never seen. We read that.
1:57:36
I'm an Israeli agent and I've stopped filming Building 7 going
1:57:39
down just to watch this. Piers, I'm a Catholic and think
1:57:43
women should be priests. Yeah, that's it's fucking
1:57:45
insane. Piers Morgan about to get
1:57:47
arrested by the British for talking to him.
1:57:49
That would be funny. Love when Nick calls out the
1:57:51
interruptions. Whoa whoa, that's with the
1:57:54
interruption. I'm black and I stopped talking
1:57:57
on speakerphone to watch this instead.
1:58:00
Never expected Piers Morgan to Will and get cooked by Nick
1:58:03
Fuentes on his own show. Trying to demean Nick for
1:58:05
celibacy was when he admitted defeat.
1:58:07
Piers not realizing he got dunked on the whole interview is
1:58:10
the cherry on top. This Nick Fuentes interview was
1:58:12
brought to you by Daily Wire. Plus, if you pay attention,
1:58:16
every question Piers asked was a leading question that would give
1:58:19
Piers a chance to call Nick some performative label.
1:58:21
Yep, said that Spielberg is going to make Schindler's List
1:58:24
to have to watching this America first is inevitable.
1:58:30
The Streisand Effect clip is hilarious to me because I would
1:58:33
not know who Nick Fuentes is if Pierce hadn't talked about him
1:58:35
so much for years. I have three sons.
1:58:38
They sound like girls. No way did Pierce really bring
1:58:41
out a Finkelstein to do the me me mom and me dad.
1:58:45
Are you playing dumb or are you just not that smart?
1:58:48
Nick asked Piers the question on many minds.
1:58:50
Uh oh, I'm a Nick Fuentes fan now.
1:58:52
This interview was literally promised to us 3000 years ago.
1:58:56
I rescheduled my trip to Tel Aviv to watch this interview.
1:58:59
I don't eat out anymore due to 13 percent, 80%.
1:59:03
This was clearly an ambush. I'm in Australia and got asked
1:59:06
for a biometric scan in my face for watching this.
1:59:08
Piers Morgan doesn't know. Like every single comment.
1:59:12
I've yet to see a pro. I mean, let's see, let's we
1:59:16
don't have to read them all. Let's just scroll through.
1:59:18
I'm going to read them, see if I see the I haven't seen a single
1:59:24
one. Matt Walsh, stop getting whipped
1:59:28
and going back to work for Mr. Shapiro to watch this. 99% yeah
1:59:41
he will disable the comments because 99% of the comments
1:59:44
support Nick. 2016 me verse 2025 me.
1:59:48
Yep, the difference between 105 IQ verse 150 IQ Pierce is little
2:00:05
spoon tonight after that one total Griper victory.
2:00:19
Yeah, the I haven't seen a single single comment like that.
2:00:25
I haven't seen a single comment that said Nick look bad or Nick
2:00:28
lost this one. We got Piers Morgan versus Nick
2:00:33
Fuentes before GTA 6. That's crazy Piers, you're a
2:00:44
sausage. So Piers, a young cat, a
2:00:50
Catholic, mocked a young Catholic single man's virginity?
2:00:52
Isn't that the biblical thing for an unmarried man to be a
2:00:55
virgin? Piers could have done this
2:00:57
entire interview without Nick even being there.
2:00:59
Just play the clips and rant. Don't bother waiting or
2:01:01
listening for answers. Exactly.
2:01:02
Kept interrupting Piers, just one Nick, a whole new audience
2:01:07
of fans. Yep, that's exactly what
2:01:09
happened. Don't forget to unsubscribe.
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One Black and Nick Fuentes is pure gold.
2:01:17
We need more people like this. For real.
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Piers is a fake. This interview literally had me
2:01:22
crying laughing for an hour and a half.
2:01:24
Nick played Piers like a fiddle. Here's a tampon, Piers.
2:01:35
Yeah I not a single comment that is shitting on Nick.
2:01:38
Wow, this is amazing. Total griper.
2:01:41
Victory is being declared, folks.
2:01:43
Guys, we're winning. We're winning and thanks to
2:01:46
Future Emperor. Let's go, let's go.
2:01:48
Let's bring guys back to the main screen.
2:01:50
What a fucking interview. I mean what an interview.
2:01:53
I'm so glad I did that for the show.
2:01:55
Let's see what people are saying on X about this right now.
2:01:58
Maybe we'll scroll through X for a minute here before we sign
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off. Give me one minute.
2:02:04
Let's get this set up. Let me move this screen back
2:02:07
over from where I had it from the comments.
2:02:12
All right, let's let's see if anyone's talking about it.
2:02:16
I saw this. We'll talk about this tomorrow.
2:02:18
I mean, this woman screaming at the Somalians and she's got a a
2:02:22
give saying go now. But what were they saying to
2:02:25
her? First?
2:02:25
They were yelling at her for not wearing a hijab.
2:02:33
New Piers Morgan disagree on whether or not they want to hand
2:02:36
out tampons to women. But you carry tampons in case
2:02:39
you're female friends get appeared or something.
2:02:45
How is my feed? Not more, more of the next
2:02:47
stuff. Like what is going on here?
2:02:53
What? No, this has to be fake.
2:02:55
Wait, this has to be fake. Give me one second.
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Yeah, OK. That's a fake headline.
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OK. Thank God I'm not even a Tim
2:03:15
Poole fan but that scared the shit out of me.
2:03:17
Again, political violence at an all time high.
2:03:19
So reading that scared the shit out of me.
2:03:21
But that's this is fake news fake tweet.
2:03:24
That's fucking insane that someone would do that.
2:03:32
How are there not more like? You didn't deny that.
2:03:38
And we're getting, we are getting, I think a long way in
2:03:41
this interview, right? You didn't deny the Holocaust.
2:03:45
You accepted there's been a Holocaust of at least 6,000,000
2:03:48
Jews that. Is maximal, that is at.
2:03:51
This Holocaust maximal dude, everything's about the Cinnabon
2:03:56
lady. Like again, like, should we talk
2:03:58
about it today? These two Somalians were
2:04:01
screaming at this lady for not wearing a hijab and she starts
2:04:03
calling them the M word. And again, like I think they're
2:04:08
both in the wrong. I I understand why Cinnabon
2:04:12
might not want her to work there 'cause they are a corporate
2:04:15
place, but the entire thing is ridiculous.
2:04:21
Fuck Bonnie Blue. Bonnie Blue going to jail.
2:04:23
Let's go, let's go. Bonnie Blue deserves the death
2:04:27
sentence from the government. I mean she should be put in jail
2:04:29
for life. What Nick tweeted out.
2:04:41
Great interview. Yeah, Nick just demolished him.
2:04:46
Nick. Nick, this was.
2:04:48
I will say this was Nick's best interview yet recently.
2:04:51
I mean, that was incredible. Yeah.
2:04:55
Like he's posting this clip like it's bad.
2:04:57
There's. That and do you think they
2:04:58
should have the right to vote? No.
2:05:01
I do not. No, absolutely not.
2:05:04
I should stay at home. Yes, 100%.
2:05:06
It worked for thousands of years.
2:05:10
It worked for thousands of years.
2:05:11
Let's see if there's anything about it in the where is, let's
2:05:15
see in the America First channel what's going on.
2:05:52
I don't know, I thought more people would be talking about
2:05:53
this. Let's see.
2:05:54
Here, let me pull this up. That's all true.
2:06:15
Everything I said was true. This tweet was funny.
2:06:18
Live with Piers Morgan, now live in central time on YouTube.
2:06:21
Looking forward to this fair interview with these pictures.
2:06:37
Piers gets it wrong. Yeah, Nick instantly mogged
2:06:53
Piers. Yeah, this was the worst part
2:06:58
when Piers Morgan brought up Nick's dad.
2:07:00
Like, that's fucking insane. That's literally insane to do.
2:07:07
Piers, coping and seething. That's so funny.
2:07:16
Yeah. And the the comments were
2:07:17
subscriber only. That's so funny that that
2:07:21
explains the don't forget to unsubscribe thing.
2:07:40
Yeah, that this was a great interview.
2:07:42
All right, let's go back to the main screen.
2:07:44
Let's go to the regular comments that we have on the show.
2:07:48
Let's get them pulled up here. Give me one moment.
2:07:51
Let's get right into the comments.
2:07:52
Let's get the first one pulled up actually here.
2:07:54
Let's start with YouTube because we have less of those.
2:07:57
And then we will go over to Spotify where we have the
2:08:02
majority of our comments. I I think we got a couple on
2:08:05
YouTube, not a lot, but I think we got a few.
2:08:14
How long have you been podcasting?
2:08:16
About a year and there there's another comment but it's not
2:08:20
letting me like it for some reason.
2:08:24
That's weird. That's actually really odd.
2:08:29
Keep saying it's hidden. Not sure.
2:08:31
I'll see if I can get to that one at a later date.
2:08:34
We'll go right over to our Spotify comments.
2:08:36
That's where the majority of the comments are.
2:08:38
Biggest pussy award equals Joe Rogan after watching him squirm
2:08:42
when Theo Von brought up how Israel might kill us all.
2:08:47
Yeah, I think Joe Rogan is still in his red pill journey.
2:08:50
I mean, it took him a very long time to come around on the
2:08:52
Christian religion, and he did. I think Joe Rogan will come
2:08:56
around. I think he just needs to talk to
2:08:58
a lot of the right people. And he's obviously got a wide
2:09:01
range of guests on who influence his decisions and influence, you
2:09:06
know, his perspective as well, because they come on and they
2:09:09
talk for three hours to him and they, you know, feed him a lot
2:09:11
of bullshit. But I think if Nick had, or I
2:09:14
think if Joe Rogan had someone like Nick on, it would help a
2:09:17
lot. Thanks for your comment.
2:09:21
If Candace goes to TPUSA she will be assassinated so if her
2:09:25
excuses she does not want to die then I can agree with her.
2:09:30
And then I said that's a ridiculous take.
2:09:32
It was. It would be way too obvious if
2:09:34
Turning Point USA assassinated Candace.
2:09:37
I mean that would be way too obvious after they invited her.
2:09:40
Was it ridiculous when CK got ascended?
2:09:44
He meant assassinated. And then I responded.
2:09:46
I said there's a massive difference between the person
2:09:48
who killed Charlie Kirk. They weren't tweeting out all
2:09:50
week like that. They were going to do that.
2:09:53
These people at Turning Point USA have literally been on video
2:09:56
and on live stream inviting Candace Owens to the facility to
2:09:59
do a debate or have a conversation, whatever you guys
2:10:02
want to call it. And yeah, I mean if if Candace
2:10:05
Owens went to Turning Point USA and then got assassinated, I
2:10:09
think it would be pretty fucking obvious who did it.
2:10:11
So I find that entire argument to be retarded.
2:10:14
And then he goes. Thank you for your response bro
2:10:17
You're welcome, you're welcome. This is why you need me.
2:10:22
Thank you for your comment though.
2:10:24
I used to have to take the stickers off the Rubik's Cube
2:10:27
and put them back on to solve it.
2:10:29
It's not that hard once you learn.
2:10:31
Once you learn, it's kind of easy.
2:10:32
A muscle memory. Like I could do it in probably a
2:10:36
minute or so right now if I wanted and it's easy.
2:10:39
Like you can learn as well. If you really want to learn
2:10:42
quickly, go watch like a YouTube tutorial or something.
2:10:45
Fuentes has seemed to change over the past few years.
2:10:48
I remember watching Nick back in 2019 and he seems different now
2:10:52
and not in a good way. I think around after the January
2:10:55
6th insurrection. Do you have any thoughts on
2:10:58
this? I think he's maybe a little more
2:11:01
black pilled since then. I mean, we talk all the time and
2:11:05
like the government talks all the time in the media
2:11:07
specifically talks all the time saying like we live in a free
2:11:09
country. We live in the greatest country
2:11:11
in the world. You know, we're not like these
2:11:14
other countries. But then they put him on a no
2:11:15
fly list, they take all of his money, they depose him, you
2:11:20
know. So I think he's right to be
2:11:24
black pilled in a lot of ways. I don't think we should be black
2:11:27
pilled, but I think he's justified in it in some ways,
2:11:30
even though he's not really full black pill.
2:11:33
If the insinuation is that he's different after January 6th
2:11:36
because he signed some federal deal, I think that's bullshit.
2:11:40
I, I, I don't think he's like, I think that interview alone is,
2:11:44
is good proof he's not a fed. I mean, like feds aren't talking
2:11:47
like that and saying shit like that.
2:11:52
And I've seen clips from Nick back in the day, like I watched
2:11:54
the old archive all the time. I'm a subscriber on his platform
2:11:57
where you could see all his old episodes.
2:11:59
And I think the biggest difference is, is he's aged.
2:12:03
I mean, like from 2019 to 2025, six years ago.
2:12:06
Like I'm different than I was six years ago.
2:12:08
My views have evolved from six years ago.
2:12:12
My personality has grown. You know, I'm wiser with certain
2:12:16
things. And I think it's similar for
2:12:19
him, Like he, he's a very high Q individual.
2:12:21
He, he's grown and he's grown with the times and he's wiser
2:12:25
than most and he, his humor has grown, his way of his speaking
2:12:30
skills have improved vastly. So I think that's the biggest
2:12:35
difference. But I think his core message is
2:12:37
fairly the same. I mean, I think maybe he's like
2:12:41
sometimes even a little less bold about it now than he was in
2:12:43
the past, even though he's still very bold.
2:12:46
But I think he's also, you know, he's a mainstream voice now when
2:12:51
before he was literally on like fucking D live and he had to
2:12:53
create his own streaming platform because he was banned
2:12:55
off every other one cozy TV. So yeah, I, I don't, I don't
2:13:01
think it's as big of a difference as you're saying, but
2:13:03
I I understand kind of what you're saying.
2:13:05
Thank you for your comment and perspective.
2:13:09
The double standard of usury has always been here.
2:13:12
This may affect you, so now you pay attention.
2:13:14
They're incrementally tightening the noise.
2:13:16
Patriot Act, freedom of speech, etc.
2:13:19
Social engineering steers us away from the lobby.
2:13:21
Divisive rhetoric keeps us at each other's throats while they
2:13:24
go about the business of acquisition.
2:13:26
Who benefits? Not America.
2:13:28
The jig is up. You, James, need to stay
2:13:31
focused. Drop the divisive remarks.
2:13:33
Dig deeper into recent current history.
2:13:35
Who owns Apple? Question more.
2:13:39
I talk about all that stuff. Just because I don't talk about
2:13:41
it every episode doesn't mean I don't talk about it.
2:13:43
I literally, I'm one episode and I've shown it on multiple
2:13:46
episodes and I tweeted it out. I made a little graph or a
2:13:51
little chart that shows who owns all the media companies,
2:13:55
including things like Apple, Google, Meta, Fox, CNNMSNBC,
2:14:01
Paramount, like all these things.
2:14:03
I showed their parent companies, the sister companies under them,
2:14:06
and I showed how they're all connected to the Israel lobby.
2:14:08
So I'm not a, I'm not blind to that.
2:14:11
I talk about that often. Just cuz I don't talk about it
2:14:13
every show doesn't mean I don't talk about it.
2:14:15
But yeah, their jig is up. They're done.
2:14:17
I mean, they're dying breed. They are literally losing right
2:14:20
now, losing greatly. That's why Ben Shapiro was the
2:14:23
biggest retard of 2025, because Ben Shapiro is arguing an
2:14:26
indefensible position. But yeah, if you go back and
2:14:29
watch shows like I, I, I don't shy away from that.
2:14:35
You add another comment. Let's read it.
2:14:37
Social engineering, your federal agencies create the conditions.
2:14:41
Don't you see it? The race baiting of the Super
2:14:43
black predator, be it male, female or child condition the
2:14:46
masses and the reaction is what we get.
2:14:48
Listening to you, everyone sees this race as the menace.
2:14:51
You need to step away from your ignorance and do the research.
2:14:53
You speak from ignorance guided by what you consume from the
2:14:57
media. You think you're doing a
2:14:58
service, You make it worse for those who are decent.
2:15:01
You are young and dangerously ignorant and think.
2:15:03
Shut the fuck up. First of all, I rarely criticize
2:15:08
the black women for being violent.
2:15:10
It's the young black man, the Y NS who are very violent and
2:15:13
that's that's common sense. We also see it in our daily
2:15:17
lives in real time. Let's see, what else did you
2:15:20
say? You're saying I'm being
2:15:22
conditioned by the mass media? Bitch, I'm against the mass
2:15:24
media. Like, what are you talking
2:15:26
about? I I think your comment is
2:15:31
dangerously ignorant. I don't think I am.
2:15:36
And the federal agencies create the conditions.
2:15:38
OK. I I don't think the federal
2:15:40
agencies have to do with the IQ difference.
2:15:42
I think that's just biological. Yeah.
2:15:46
Thanks for your comment. Thanks for your input.
2:15:48
I disagree. I like Nick and you, but why so
2:15:53
aggressively attacking Candace, a fellow American who's trying
2:15:56
to get down to the bottom of this?
2:15:57
I don't understand the divide on the same team.
2:16:00
Divided we fall. I kind of agree with the last
2:16:05
part where it's like divided we fall in some ways, but at the
2:16:08
same time, I don't think Candace is doing a good service for us
2:16:13
right now with backing out of the debate.
2:16:15
I I think Candace investigating Charlie Kirk's thing is fine.
2:16:18
I think Candace drip feeding the information is bullshit and
2:16:21
womanish. And it's like, it proves the
2:16:23
point of why I don't want women in politics.
2:16:25
And people like Nick say that too.
2:16:28
But yeah, I, I think Candace saying like set a time, set a
2:16:31
place, and then they set a time in place.
2:16:33
And then again, my problem is not that just that she said no,
2:16:38
it's that like she she didn't even pitch an alternative date.
2:16:40
It's like they said, OK, December 15th.
2:16:42
She could have said, oh, the 15th doesn't work.
2:16:44
It's my husband's birthday or whatever the fuck.
2:16:46
She could have been like, what about on the 14th?
2:16:48
What about on the 16th? What about on the 18th?
2:16:50
What about on January 2nd? Like, you know what I mean?
2:16:53
Like she could have pitched an alternative date.
2:16:55
And instead of doing that, she's like, you know what?
2:16:56
I'm just going to do a reaction to your live stream debunking
2:17:00
you. It's like, OK, that defeats the
2:17:01
entire point. That's it's crazy.
2:17:04
It's actually insane to me. And I think a lot of the people
2:17:08
who are like, you got to pile on Israel, like this is the time to
2:17:11
just throw and you know, pile on to Israel.
2:17:13
It's like, OK, if we're just like throwing everything at
2:17:17
Israel saying like they did everything that's low IQ,
2:17:20
anti-Semitism. And then again, it's, it's great
2:17:23
to be critical of Israel. It's great to be critical,
2:17:25
critical of the foreign governments and the government
2:17:28
of America itself and the overall oligarch that is
2:17:32
controlling American, American media, banks, all these things.
2:17:36
But if we're going to take things that Israel didn't do and
2:17:39
blame Israel for him, how does that help our cause?
2:17:41
Like seriously, our cause has to be truthful and if we want it to
2:17:45
be successful. And it's not trying to shit on
2:17:47
anybody, but it's just trying to say it's like, yes, Israel is
2:17:50
guilty of a lot and the people of Israel are very guilty of a
2:17:53
lot, but they're not guilty of every fucking thing in the
2:17:55
world. And people have to understand
2:17:57
that and people who don't understand that it's just low IQ
2:18:01
anti-Semitism. But I do agree.
2:18:04
I mean, there should be, we should be more united on the
2:18:07
right. But at the same time, it's like
2:18:09
it's not like Candace is making any efforts.
2:18:11
Like Candace had Nick on for a hit piece and then put it behind
2:18:14
a paywall. Like how is that OK?
2:18:17
Why did no one shit on her for that on her side?
2:18:20
You know, it's like Candace has this cult like following.
2:18:23
And I'm not saying Nick doesn't too, but at least I think Nick's
2:18:26
following is a lot more objective and high IQ.
2:18:29
I think there's a big difference there.
2:18:38
Comments are full of crazy folks.
2:18:40
IDs Israel Derangement Syndrome, similar in every regard to TDs.
2:18:45
Newsflash, Trump isn't responsible for every bad thing
2:18:49
and neither is Israel. Get a grip people.
2:18:52
Arkham's Razor is more reliable than dramatic conspiracy
2:18:55
theories 100% of the time. This applies to Candace as well.
2:18:59
I used to be a fan of hers but no longer.
2:19:02
I prefer facts to drama. Yeah, I completely agree with
2:19:06
you. Again, it's like Trump does a
2:19:08
lot of bad things. Is he the reason for every bad
2:19:11
thing that happens in America? No, Israel does a lot of bad
2:19:14
things. Are they every conspiracy that
2:19:16
exists? No, they are a lot of them but
2:19:18
they're not every one of them. I completely agree with you and
2:19:22
the facts over drama I agree with completely.
2:19:24
I mean Candace loves her drama and a problem I have with
2:19:27
Candace is she platformed a gay pedophile Jew Milo.
2:19:32
I mean Milo is one of the biggest pieces of shit.
2:19:34
He literally pretended to have cancer for attention.
2:19:38
And Milo's a disingenuous, disgusting pedophile.
2:19:41
Milo is a terrible, disgusting person.
2:19:43
He openly admitted to his pedophilic beliefs on Joe Rogan.
2:19:46
Anyone can go watch it. It's it's up there, it's on the
2:19:49
Internet for anyone to see, but people choose to ignore that for
2:19:52
some reason, including Candace. And Tucker did an interview with
2:19:56
him too. It's fucking terrible.
2:19:57
So did Myron, which I didn't like either.
2:19:59
Like that was I thought Myron doing that was pretty
2:20:01
disrespectful to Nick. He calls himself Nick's friend,
2:20:04
and then he platformed somebody who?
2:20:07
Posted what he thought was Nick's Social Security number.
2:20:10
Tries to docks Nick's family constantly.
2:20:12
And to someone who's a legit pedophile.
2:20:14
So fucking crazy to me. But yeah, I agree there is a
2:20:18
Israel derangement Syndrome. And again, like, I'm one of the
2:20:20
biggest critics of Israel. I'm someone who calls out the
2:20:23
USS Liberty 911. I call out different things that
2:20:27
happened in the media getting cancelled.
2:20:30
You know, they literally invented that.
2:20:31
How the ADL funds the things that are replacing Americans in
2:20:35
our own society. You know, I call out everything.
2:20:38
The list goes on and on for what I've called Israel out for the
2:20:41
war crimes, the genocide, Bibi Netanyahu, you know, the Israeli
2:20:46
media that is the Daily fucking Wire.
2:20:50
But again, it doesn't mean that every single conspiracy or
2:20:52
everything is Israel. And again, do is there a chance
2:20:56
that Charlie Kirk was killed by Israel?
2:20:59
Yeah, I would say there's a percentage chance, but a very
2:21:01
low one. I'd say it's a higher chance
2:21:03
that it was a deranged leftist. Or, again, I'm not even sold on
2:21:07
the idea that it was Tyler Robinson alone.
2:21:09
I think there was other actors involved.
2:21:11
Like the whole George Zen thing was really weird.
2:21:14
A lot of weird stuff there. And I do think some of the
2:21:16
information Candace brought to light was interesting, like the
2:21:19
chief of staff immediately being on a phone call, like that's
2:21:22
very odd. So I do think Candace is doing
2:21:24
some decent journalistic work. But at the same time, I think
2:21:27
Candace calling it a fed piling on with Elon, some of the people
2:21:33
sheep platforms being friends with like Harvey fucking
2:21:35
Weinstein. Like some of the things are
2:21:37
really weird, really odd. And it's like it's hard to
2:21:40
support some of it. But again, like I, I genuinely,
2:21:44
for the most part, I do support Candace in a lot of ways, but I
2:21:47
also think she's kind of a fucking idiot sometimes.
2:21:50
She can't make it out there after her world has literally
2:21:53
revolved around this for the last three months.
2:21:56
Apparently her life is in jeopardy because of this issue
2:21:58
and there was a huge conspiracy that got C killed because why?
2:22:02
Her husband won't let her and she can stream it that day but
2:22:06
she can't take a quick PJ over there and back for the biggest
2:22:09
issue in her life. Listening to her come up with
2:22:11
the excuses as such bullshit and her audience is pathetic.
2:22:15
You should replay her excuses. Yeah, I I will.
2:22:18
I'll do that tomorrow. It's crazy to me.
2:22:21
She's like the only things that can stop me are God and Erica
2:22:24
Kirk. That's literally a quote from
2:22:25
Candace. But but apparently your
2:22:27
husband's on there too. Apparently your your crazy busy
2:22:31
schedule on December 15th is stopping you and your inability
2:22:34
to propose another date again. If Candace said like, hey, I
2:22:37
can't do the 15th, but I can do it On this date, how does that
2:22:39
work for you? I would not be shitting on her
2:22:41
and either would have Nick, but the reason we're shitting on her
2:22:45
is because instead of pitching out an alternative date, she's
2:22:48
like, no, no, you guys are assholes.
2:22:51
Why'd you tweet it out at midnight?
2:22:52
It's like, OK, like if they tweeted that out at 6:00 PM,
2:22:55
would it have made a fucking difference to you?
2:22:56
Sweetheart, it's fucking insane. Comments like this next one, I'm
2:23:01
better reader. These are what are annoying.
2:23:04
Really. That's what you say?
2:23:06
You're a Zionist. Because because I disagree with
2:23:10
Candace on one issue. I'm a Zionist.
2:23:12
I'm an anti Zionist. You're a fucking idiot.
2:23:14
You're a fucking idiot. I literally have an episode
2:23:16
called The Three State Solution. I have episodes, countless
2:23:20
episodes where all it is is talking shit about Israel.
2:23:23
It's like the one thing Ben Shapiro is right about is some
2:23:31
of you are goyam. I mean, some people really are
2:23:33
just goyam. Some people will fall for
2:23:36
literally fucking anything. It's crazy calling me a Zionist
2:23:42
because I disagree with Candace on one fucking issue.
2:23:45
Is is so fucking stupid. It just shows that you're a
2:23:47
retard. This Justin virgin boy possibly
2:23:50
gave Fuentes thinks Charlie Robinson was the Kirk shooter.
2:23:53
James, how do you feel about replacing Nick Fuentes?
2:23:57
God. Nick Fuentes is the future
2:23:59
emperor. I support Nick Fuentes.
2:24:03
I I don't even question it and it's fine.
2:24:08
He's a virgin. He's a Catholic.
2:24:09
Again, that's not like I think that is the genuine the general
2:24:14
Catholic belief is you should wait till marriage and that's
2:24:16
what he's doing. And no, I don't think he's gay.
2:24:20
I think that is a rumor spread by the gay pedophile Jew Milo.
2:24:26
Y'all are gay rainbow. Yeah, No, you're gay.
2:24:30
Shut up. At the end of the day, more
2:24:32
people listen and care about her than either one of you guys.
2:24:35
Also, James never heard of you. You still took the time to
2:24:39
comment on my show and watch it though, bitch, so who cares?
2:24:42
Again, Candace has been doing this for over 10 years.
2:24:46
I've been doing this for just over 10 months.
2:24:48
So yeah, that's fine with me. I'm not.
2:24:51
I'm not offended by it, and I'm a top 5% podcast in the world.
2:24:53
So see you bitch. She got one less quite a while
2:24:57
back when she went insane. I quit being a fan of hers. that
2:25:01
Lady is going to be blaming vampires for currency
2:25:04
manipulation once this craziness quits.
2:25:06
Making her money or something is equally insane.
2:25:10
Yeah, I do think some of her takes are absolutely insane.
2:25:16
Only good kind of pedophile is a dead pedophile.
2:25:19
Yep, I agree. Like comments like this.
2:25:24
This is like the Israel Derangement Syndrome.
2:25:27
Nick has the chance to pile on Israel and be in the meme and
2:25:30
he's choosing to ignore Israel had anything to do with
2:25:32
Charlie's murder. Now is the time but he's just
2:25:35
buying the narrative and now hanging with Crowder.
2:25:37
IDK. Not a good look for Nick in my
2:25:39
humble opinion. Let me start with the second
2:25:43
point and then go in, then go into your main point.
2:25:45
But it's saying he's hanging out with Crowder.
2:25:47
He's not hanging out with Crowder.
2:25:48
He did a 2 hour interview with Crowder.
2:25:50
It's like saying he's hanging out with Piers Morgan or he's
2:25:52
hanging out with Tucker. It's like no, he didn't
2:25:54
interview with them. He he's trying to get himself
2:25:57
more into the mainstream and to do that you have to go on these
2:26:00
mainstream shows. And Steven Crowder is one of the
2:26:03
biggest shows on Rumble, so I don't think he's hanging out
2:26:07
with Crowder. I think they were able to joke
2:26:10
around on his show and I think that's very different.
2:26:14
But even if he was, who gives a shit?
2:26:16
But to get back where you're like Nick has the, Nick has the
2:26:20
chance to pile on Israel. It's like, dude, we have a lot
2:26:23
of shit we can just pile on Israel.
2:26:24
We don't have to take things that are speculation or fake and
2:26:27
throw it at Israel. And again, I'm not opposed to
2:26:30
the idea that Israel was involved in Charlie's murder.
2:26:32
I just don't think the evidence is there.
2:26:34
And I think Charlie was Israel's guy.
2:26:36
And I do think it was clear that Charlie was turning on the
2:26:39
Israel lobby towards the end. I don't think they killed him
2:26:42
though. I think there's a less than 10%
2:26:46
chance or 5% chance that happened.
2:26:48
Is it worth investigating? Yes 100%.
2:26:50
She can just be drip feeding the fucking information like a Bravo
2:26:53
TV woman. No it's disingenuous.
2:26:56
Like demonetize your streams if you're going to do that.
2:26:58
Like it's absolutely ridiculous. It's not even like she needs the
2:27:02
money or husbands worth like 200 million fucking dollars.
2:27:05
And then I responded. I said Nick has been criticizing
2:27:07
Israel for 10 years before Candace or anyone else was.
2:27:10
Just because he doesn't blame everything on Israel doesn't
2:27:12
mean he's wrong. And then this was his response.
2:27:16
There's two responses to what I said actually.
2:27:19
I know he has always been a critic of Israel but now is the
2:27:22
time to really pile on them because they are on their heels
2:27:25
and millions of people are now noticing he's going in the wrong
2:27:28
direction knocking Candace and Ian Carroll.
2:27:30
Has he not checked into any of the evidence that screams we are
2:27:34
being lied to? Does he not know what Charlie
2:27:36
was fearing in his final hours? Charlie's been fearing death for
2:27:40
a very long time and I like Ian Carroll, I like him a lot.
2:27:43
I don't like the comments. Again, Nick was responding to
2:27:47
his comments about him. Like Ian Carroll was talking
2:27:52
trash about Nick. So Nick was responding, which
2:27:54
he's well within his rights to do.
2:27:56
Again, I, I don't love all the infighting specifically on that
2:28:00
side of the right on the, it is real critical side of the right.
2:28:03
But at the same time, it's like, I understand wanting to defend
2:28:06
yourself and I understand, you know, Nick has a big
2:28:09
personality. That's, that's in Nick's nature
2:28:11
to respond in that manner. So do I think they'll be
2:28:14
separated? Like I think Ian, Carol and Nick
2:28:17
will be friends? I'm not nervous about that in
2:28:20
the long term. And Candace, again, I, I go back
2:28:23
and forth about Candace a lot, but it recently it's not been
2:28:26
great. And backing out of the TPSA
2:28:28
debate with no alternative date is the main problem.
2:28:31
It's not even that she just said no.
2:28:32
It's that she didn't even pitch another date.
2:28:34
That's the problem with it there.
2:28:36
I do think they've uncovered a lot of good evidence, Candace,
2:28:39
Andy and Carol, but at the same time, I I think there is a lot
2:28:44
of evidence to show that Tyler Robinson took the shot.
2:28:47
I think there's a lot of evidence to show that.
2:28:51
I actually, I just don't think there's as much evidence to show
2:28:55
that it was Israel. Then there was Tyler Robinson.
2:28:57
And again, I'm open to the idea that Israel did it or, you know,
2:29:00
the Egyptian planes or some other thing.
2:29:02
But someone commented this like a week ago or a couple weeks ago
2:29:05
where they said, I think Candace is on to something, but I think
2:29:08
she's uncovering something that doesn't really even have to do
2:29:10
with Charlie's murder. But it's just another, another
2:29:12
thing of corruption. And I think that's more what it
2:29:15
is. I think like this, the plain
2:29:17
thing and all that. Like I think that's probably
2:29:19
something else not even tied to this assassination.
2:29:22
Maybe it is, but I it doesn't seem like it is it.
2:29:25
There's not a lot of evidence. I mean, she even got the time
2:29:27
zone wrong and she was like, people calling me out about
2:29:30
getting the time zone wrong proves I'm right.
2:29:31
It's like, no, it doesn't. Second of all, she was like
2:29:35
Charlie told me in a dream. It's like, OK, sweetheart.
2:29:38
Like that's the most woman thing I've ever heard.
2:29:41
So I don't know, I go back and forth a lot, but I I really
2:29:44
don't, I don't agree with the narrative about Israel with
2:29:47
that, but it's like it doesn't mean we have to pile on right
2:29:51
now. It it just means that we, we
2:29:54
again, we have to be truthful. Like the reason the idical
2:29:58
Israel critical side is winning right now is because we're being
2:30:01
truthful. Like if we were just out there
2:30:03
like lying, saying it was them, it was them, it was them about
2:30:06
literally fucking everything, we would go nowhere.
2:30:08
We would be labeled as conspiracy theorists and we
2:30:10
would be instantly be platformed.
2:30:13
But the reason we still have a platform on X and I'm allowed to
2:30:16
talk about this here is because we're truthful about it.
2:30:18
When you start lying about it to back up your own side, when you
2:30:22
say like, oh, like it might not be true, but I'm going to pile
2:30:24
on Israel just for the sole fact that I want to pile on Israel
2:30:28
and they're on their heels right now.
2:30:29
It's like, OK, like is that really helping anybody?
2:30:32
Is that is that helping the America First movement?
2:30:35
I don't think it is. It goes like this, Broski.
2:30:38
In Virgin Nick we do not trust. In James and many, many
2:30:41
voluptuous giant wet Peaches we trust.
2:30:45
Again, I'm glad you trusted me, but I think you should trust in
2:30:48
Nick as well. I think Nick is smarter than
2:30:50
most about all these things. PPUSA is cowardly for this
2:30:56
bullshit PR stunt while their ratings fall.
2:30:58
They are disingenuous and inauthentic and that's why no
2:31:01
one is listening anymore. It's not about Candace and they
2:31:04
should take responsibility and accountability for that.
2:31:08
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not debating that TPUSAS ratings are going
2:31:14
down, but at the same time they're making more money than
2:31:17
ever. And people do listen, like I
2:31:23
don't, you know, like less people listen, but it's because
2:31:26
they're listening to people like Nick.
2:31:27
And when you say it's like a bullshit PR stunt, like they
2:31:29
offered her the opportunity, like she is accusing them of
2:31:35
being a party to murder. Like she's not saying that they
2:31:38
took the shot, but she's accusing them of being a party
2:31:40
to murder. And they extended her an invite
2:31:43
to talk about it in person and she said no, basically like she
2:31:48
she said yes and then she rescinded it.
2:31:50
So yeah, I think Candace needs some accountability as well.
2:31:54
I think Candace's lack of accountability is not helping.
2:32:00
Why does this pod keep showing up on my feed?
2:32:03
Because it's good. Maybe don't comment on it if you
2:32:06
want it to stop appearing. Yep, it's an algorithm.
2:32:09
Because you touch yourself at night.
2:32:11
That probably has something to do with it too.
2:32:18
Nick, you're beginning to sound like a ranting idiot.
2:32:21
Get back to pointing a finger towards the lobby culprits.
2:32:25
That's your strong suit. He's been doing this for 10
2:32:28
years. He points fingers at a lot of
2:32:30
different people, and he still talks about the lobbyists like
2:32:33
he was just talking about them the other day on a show.
2:32:36
Like, Lord, again, it's a slow fucking last few.
2:32:40
Like there's nothing going on in the news today.
2:32:42
There was nothing going on in the news over the weekend.
2:32:44
There was nothing going on in the news last week.
2:32:46
So it's either he takes a night off a show or he talks about
2:32:50
something that is happening, which is the Candace thing.
2:32:52
And what do you expect him about to just pander to people?
2:32:56
No, he's going to be honest. In fairness, Crowder was so nice
2:33:00
to him, and he didn't have to be.
2:33:02
Yeah, it's because Crowder at least was able to.
2:33:06
It's not like he did the opposite of what Piers did,
2:33:09
where Piers is like trying to get a gotcha moment so hard and
2:33:13
crowd is like, I don't fucking need a gotcha moment, I just
2:33:15
want to have a conversation and that's the way it should be
2:33:17
going. Candace's husband has fucking
2:33:27
plans already. In the 15th wasn't a date that
2:33:29
was going to work. Nick needs to take a chill on
2:33:32
this. Candace has been talking about
2:33:34
this for three months and there's no way she's going to
2:33:36
fly out there and resolve every issue and every talking point in
2:33:39
one live stream unless it goes for fucking 28 days straight.
2:33:43
Nick isn't right about everything all the time.
2:33:47
Yeah, but you would at least get to talk about some of them.
2:33:49
Even if she didn't get to figure out every fucking issue, she
2:33:52
would at least get to press them on some of the issues and the
2:33:55
question she's been asking. But instead of doing that,
2:33:58
instead of pitching an alternative date, she just
2:34:00
didn't. So ridiculous.
2:34:03
Candace could very easily again take $20,000 out of her
2:34:06
husband's 200 million, get on a fucking private jet and be back
2:34:10
in the same day. Not to mention Candace has come
2:34:13
up with three or four different solutions, giving them a list of
2:34:16
questions to answer live, using tech to be there on camera,
2:34:20
doing it a number of different days.
2:34:22
Not to mention that TPUSA explicitly said they didn't
2:34:25
invite her as a guest, just invited her to be there while
2:34:28
they all talk, so it wasn't marketed as a debate.
2:34:31
Who gives a shit if it was marketed as a debate or not?
2:34:35
It was marketed as a conversation.
2:34:36
That's the same fucking thing. In the end it doesn't matter.
2:34:39
It would turn into a debate regardless and saying she's
2:34:42
given them a list of dates is untrue.
2:34:44
I will give you 100 bucks if you could show me where she listed a
2:34:47
list of fucking dates that work besides the date they proposed.
2:34:51
And the only other thing she said was I'll do it on a live
2:34:54
stream. Like I'll I'll zoom into the
2:34:56
show or Skype into the show or whatever.
2:34:58
But it's like she could have an earpiece in.
2:34:59
She has a, she has a producer and an assistant who literally
2:35:03
feeds her information. Like if you watch her live
2:35:06
stream, she talks to them through her earpiece during the
2:35:08
show. She doesn't hide it.
2:35:10
So that's what she would probably be fucking doing that.
2:35:13
That's probably what she would be doing if she if she you
2:35:18
Skyped in or live streamed in. Nick is siding with Israel in
2:35:24
the mainstream. I don't know what's going on.
2:35:26
He may have been threatened, who knows?
2:35:28
I think that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard.
2:35:31
I really do. He's been the biggest critic of
2:35:34
Israel and just because he's not saying Israel did this one thing
2:35:38
doesn't mean he's siding with Israel.
2:35:40
It it's absolutely fucking insane.
2:35:42
Some things that some people think are true and it's like
2:35:45
these are the reasons that we're not further than we ours because
2:35:49
people can't get over the hump of like, not every fucking thing
2:35:51
in the world is Israel. Yes, they are guilty of a lot.
2:35:54
They they have done a lot of terrible things and so is
2:35:56
organized jewelry and so has all these fucking things like that,
2:36:01
but it doesn't mean they're guilty of fucking everything.
2:36:03
I'm not saying Candace shouldn't have accepted the original date,
2:36:06
but why can't she join via stream?
2:36:09
Why is TP not wanting to be flexible when this could solve a
2:36:12
lot of problems? This makes Nick look bad in my
2:36:14
opinion. The last thing I want to believe
2:36:17
is that Nick is siding with Israel, but he's either
2:36:19
oblivious to a lot of the facts or someone has scared him to
2:36:22
death. No or Candace just refused to
2:36:25
pitch out another date. When you say they're not
2:36:27
flexible, it's like she can't FaceTime into the stream because
2:36:31
she could have a fucking earpiece in with AI or she could
2:36:33
have an earpiece in with her assistant Skyler Fucking talk to
2:36:36
her the entire time telling her what to say.
2:36:39
That that's why they want an in person authentic debate from the
2:36:42
person who has been accusing them of being a party to murder.
2:36:45
Which is understandable as well. And again, I'm not siding with
2:36:47
TPSA, but I'm siding against the idea that Israel is guilty about
2:36:51
literally fucking everything, which is just a ridiculous claim
2:36:54
and low IQ anti-Semitism. That's not going to push us
2:36:57
forward to say Nick scared to death like did did you watch the
2:37:01
interview? We just did.
2:37:02
Like are you kidding me? Are you not that it's so fucking
2:37:06
ridiculous that some people can't get over that hump To me,
2:37:10
like Candace, you're like she she didn't or shouldn't have
2:37:13
accepted the original date. So again, pitch another date
2:37:18
then instead of saying I'm not going to do it, Why didn't she
2:37:21
do that? No one answers that.
2:37:22
I I've asked that question repeatedly.
2:37:24
No, and that's what I said in the last stream.
2:37:26
What? This is the one that everyone's
2:37:27
commenting on. Why did nobody say or why did
2:37:32
nobody respond to the fact that I said, why didn't Candace pitch
2:37:34
another date? Nobody responds to that.
2:37:37
Like if, if the 15th is her husband's birthday or whatever
2:37:39
the fuck is, they're busy that day, why can't she do it on the
2:37:42
14th, the 16th? Why didn't she say any of these
2:37:44
things? Why didn't she say, hey, let's
2:37:45
do it in January, let's do it after Christmas, let's do it
2:37:48
here, let's do it there. Like why didn't she say any of
2:37:50
that? She didn't because she didn't
2:37:53
actually want to go on. So it's ridiculous to me that
2:37:57
people think they're shit. It's like absolutely insane to
2:38:02
me. And back to the original comment
2:38:11
where they're like you, you just wouldn't be able to solve every
2:38:14
talking point in one live stream.
2:38:16
It's like, OK, but maybe you can get to half of them, maybe you
2:38:19
can get to 1/4 of them, Maybe you can at least get some of
2:38:21
them down. Like why is it that you have to
2:38:24
do them all at once, which they probably could They they most
2:38:27
likely could in like a three hour show.
2:38:29
They can get through all of it for the most part, all Candace's
2:38:32
claims. But even if your argument holds
2:38:35
water and we say that they couldn't get through all of it
2:38:37
in one stream, it's like, OK, then why not go and debate half
2:38:40
of it at the very least? This is what your fans have been
2:38:42
waiting for. Yeah, I can't even listen to
2:38:47
Candace anymore. I think people are actually
2:38:50
correct in saying that she's lost her mind.
2:38:53
She's literally blamed 20 different people entities for
2:38:56
killing Charlie. It's all for clicks now.
2:38:58
At this point, it's impossible to take her seriously.
2:39:02
Yeah, again, I support her investigating this, but at the
2:39:05
same time, the way she drip feeds it and changes constantly,
2:39:08
it's like it's a little wild. She's the one that made me
2:39:11
switch from left wing to right wing and now I can't listen to
2:39:14
her anymore. Yeah, I get that.
2:39:22
You get a lot of comments on this episode.
2:39:24
So we're still going. So the two Bros we trust think a
2:39:29
trans loving freak shot Charlie Kirk and texted a poem about it.
2:39:32
WTF happened to y'all? Again, just because I like I
2:39:38
don't think it was Israel, doesn't mean I believe the
2:39:40
official narrative completely. No, I think those texts were
2:39:43
fabricated. Technically it wasn't a trans
2:39:47
person who killed him, but the person the killer was dating was
2:39:50
a man pretending to be a woman. To be fair, the going narrative
2:39:58
seems to be that Israel killed him.
2:40:00
Just like the narrative is that Israel is responsible for the
2:40:03
clouds in the sky, the food poisoning you got when you were
2:40:06
a teenager, that time you stubbed your toe a few weeks
2:40:09
ago, etcetera at this point. I'm not sure I even believe
2:40:13
Israel killed a bunch of terrorists with exploding pagers
2:40:16
because they get blamed for everything, most of which is
2:40:19
obvious BS. I think Israel did do that.
2:40:22
I mean, I think Israel's done a lot of terrible things, but at
2:40:25
the same time, I don't think they're guilty of literally
2:40:27
every fucking like, like you said, it's like, are they guilty
2:40:29
of when you stubbed your tail? No, they're not.
2:40:32
That's not the narrative. Listen to Candace podcast or
2:40:35
don't comment. I said he was a trans lover not
2:40:38
trans. Your viewers are AIDS Pro.
2:40:42
Dude, your comment is AIDS because you are too fucking
2:40:45
stupid to understand that just because I don't agree with
2:40:48
Candace doesn't mean I buy into the official narrative
2:40:50
completely. I don't think the texts are real
2:40:53
and it's just low IQ and you didn't respond to that when I
2:40:56
commented that back to you. Very disingenuous retard.
2:41:02
DPJ who say are sinking? Why does Candace have to appear
2:41:06
in person? Maybe shut your big mouth and
2:41:08
listen. Older ones.
2:41:09
She said she would live stream Dunbars.
2:41:11
Nick is a loudmouth flip flopper.
2:41:13
Definitely the type to sell his soul.
2:41:17
So Nick, after getting put on a no fly list, getting all his
2:41:20
money taken away from him, being deposed by the federal
2:41:24
government after all that and the 10 years of cancellation,
2:41:29
not being able to have a bank account, credit card processing,
2:41:32
all these things. He didn't sell his soul then,
2:41:35
but he sold his soul now because of Candace.
2:41:38
Like shut the fuck up. Like shut the fuck up again
2:41:41
retard. Why does she have to appear in
2:41:44
person instead of doing a live stream?
2:41:46
Because she could have a fucking earpiece in.
2:41:49
It's as simple as fucking that. It's so fucking simple to
2:41:52
understand. And the fact that you don't just
2:41:54
shows that like, you got to think more, you got to have
2:41:57
better critical thinking skills. The list was good.
2:42:02
Thank you. What did you think of that Lions
2:42:11
versus Cowboys game yesterday? That game was a shootout.
2:42:16
Yeah, good game. Fuck the Cowboys.
2:42:24
Do you know about the story where a Jewish person lent
2:42:27
George Washington $40, zero 00 to help fund his army?
2:42:31
Basically, George Washington said he has no money so he was
2:42:34
going to give up, and then this person gave him the money to
2:42:37
help him get weapons and soldiers.
2:42:39
So technically, Jews do belong in America.
2:42:42
I never said they don't I, I again, I'm never, I never said
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that we need to expel them or anything.
2:42:49
All I've said is that they should not be influencing our
2:42:53
government for the nation of Israel.
2:42:55
He'll be honored to be the first Canadian Prime Minister as Vice
2:42:58
president. Sir, I saw the videos, all of
2:43:04
them at first. Wasn't watching the comments.
2:43:06
Dude, you are savage. Thank you.
2:43:12
We shouldn't be saying that USA is controlled by Jews, because
2:43:15
that's anti-Semitic, but we can say that the state of Israel has
2:43:19
lots of power on the USA. I think we could say both if
2:43:24
it's true. If it's true, then why is it bad
2:43:27
to say? If you were to rank all 45
2:43:30
presidents, where would you rank Trump?
2:43:32
In terms of policy, I would rank him 44th.
2:43:35
In terms of character, I would rank him 45th.
2:43:42
It's a hard question. It'd be pretty low on the list.
2:43:46
I mean, I think he's a funny guy actually.
2:43:50
And the 2016 Trump I liked, but not high on the list.
2:43:59
I don't know the exact number. Maybe in like the like, I don't
2:44:06
know. He wouldn't be that low on the
2:44:08
list. I guess like if one's the best,
2:44:10
he might fall in like the high teens or like 20s.
2:44:14
I don't know. He's done some good things.
2:44:16
But at the same time is a shill. This summer in theaters, it's
2:44:29
Mike Huckabee and Jonathan Pollard in The Spy Who Bought
2:44:31
Me, featuring Huckabee as Jimmy Bonstein, Agent 109 with a
2:44:36
budget of $3 billion, filmed on location in Tel Aviv.
2:44:40
Yeah, it's crazy that he met with him.
2:44:42
Absolutely insane. Let's refresh, see if there's
2:44:46
any more comments or if that was all of them.
2:44:48
Alright, that seems to be all of them.
2:44:50
We're going to sign off. All I want to say to people who
2:44:52
are like back and forth on this Candace thing or like getting
2:44:55
mad about it, just think about this objectively.
2:44:58
Again, we don't have to buy into the official FBI narrative to
2:45:01
disagree with Candace that it was 100% Israel.
2:45:04
That's what she's saying pretty much.
2:45:06
Or it was 100% these Egyptian plant.
2:45:07
Like, we can agree to disagree on certain things.
2:45:11
We can also say that Candace had all the ability in the world to
2:45:14
propose a different date and chose not to.
2:45:17
She said anytime any place. So they named a time and a place
2:45:21
and instead of saying that time doesn't work for me, what if we
2:45:23
do it this time? She said no, I'm not going to do
2:45:25
it, got mad threw a bitch fit and said, you know, why can't I
2:45:28
live stream it? And it's because you have a
2:45:30
producer with an earpiece in that wouldn't work.
2:45:33
He's going to be feeding you information if you forget.
2:45:35
That's not how a conversation supposed to go.
2:45:38
Like you saw there with like Piers Morgan has his team of
2:45:41
fact checkers. He has chachi PT all that shit.
2:45:45
And then it's all that versus Nick and just his brain, no
2:45:48
earpiece, no person in the background saying things.
2:45:52
That's how a conversation supposed to go.
2:45:54
You're not supposed to have people drip feeding you
2:45:56
information or feeding you information into your fucking
2:45:58
ear. So that that's where I think
2:46:00
Candace was disingenuous and I think people who can't see that,
2:46:03
you guys got to open up. I'm not going to call you
2:46:05
retards. I'm not going to try and insult
2:46:07
you. But you guys have to realize
2:46:09
that yes, Israel is guilty of a lot and organized jewelry is a
2:46:13
real thing and it is a real problem.
2:46:14
But at the same time, if we blame Israel for literally
2:46:17
everything and we don't have evidence to prove it, we're not
2:46:21
helping the cause. And again, if Israel did it, we
2:46:25
can be as critical of them as possible.
2:46:28
I would apologize even to Candace for doubting it, but at
2:46:32
the same time, I don't see the evidence there.
2:46:34
I've seen the evidence from me and Carol and Candace, and I do
2:46:37
think they actually have some good evidence, but I don't think
2:46:39
it necessarily means that Israel did it.
2:46:41
I think some of their evidence is really good.
2:46:43
I think some of it's really flawed, and I think a lot of
2:46:46
it's speculation. And even one of my viewers
2:46:48
proved this because one of my viewers literally commented on
2:46:51
Candace's show or not on Candace's show in Candace's
2:46:54
e-mail giving her a fake tip that she then read out on the
2:46:57
show as a reality. So this is how I know it's kind
2:47:01
of bullshit because one of my viewers literally wanted to test
2:47:04
it, gave her a fake tip in her e-mail, and then she went with
2:47:07
it as an official narrative and said it was a fact.
2:47:11
So it's like, if that's possible, and if people can't
2:47:14
see that that's happening, I don't know what to tell you
2:47:16
guys. You guys got to open your eyes a
2:47:18
little more. And it's not all of you, but
2:47:19
like the people who are like, we have to pile on Israel right
2:47:22
now. It's like, no, we got to be
2:47:23
truthful because that's what's going to be successful.
2:47:25
If we are truthful, we put our actions and intentions in
2:47:28
alignment with the will of Christ.
2:47:29
And if we act honestly, we will win because Israel is guilty of
2:47:34
a lot. We don't need to lie about them
2:47:35
to make them guilty. They are already guilty of a
2:47:37
lot. A lot of terrorist attacks, a
2:47:39
lot of corruption, a lot of lobbying being APEC not
2:47:42
registering under Fara Bibi, Netanyahu being a war criminal
2:47:46
who'd Barack being best friends with Jeffrey Epstein most likely
2:47:49
financing him, Mossad with the pagers and the unit 8200 workers
2:47:54
who now work and American tech companies.
2:47:57
Like there's a lot they're guilty of.
2:47:59
But again, until we see more evidence to show that they're
2:48:02
guilty with Charlie Kirk, it's not great to speculate because
2:48:05
it doesn't make the America First calls look good.
2:48:08
So with that, I'm going to sign off today.
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