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October 7: Three Years Later · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: Three years ago to the day at 629 on a
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Speaker 1: Saturday morning, sirens blaring across southern Israel. And by the
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Speaker 1: time the sun went down, 1,200 innocent people were dead.
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Speaker 1: 364 young people at a music festival run down in
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Speaker 1: an open field and shot in the back as they fled.
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Speaker 1: 132 people at Kibbutz Be'eri. AT NEAR OZ, ONE IN
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Speaker 1: FOUR RESIDENTS WERE EITHER MURDERED OR DRAGGED INTO GAZA AND
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Speaker 1: TAKEN HOSTAGE. THE YOUNGEST VICTIM WAS 10 MONTHS OLD. THE
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Speaker 1: OLDEST WAS 91. A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR WHO LIVED LONG ENOUGH
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Speaker 1: TO SEE HATE COME FOR HER TWICE. 46 OF THE
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Speaker 1: DEAD WERE AMERICANS, 51 WERE FRENCH. THE UNITED NATION'S OWN
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Speaker 1: INVESTIGATOR FOUND REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE WOMEN WERE RAPED AT
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Speaker 1: THE FESTIVAL. And later in captivity, Hamas filmed it. They
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Speaker 1: wore their own body cameras so the world would see
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Speaker 1: what they did. And then they drove 251 humans into
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Speaker 1: Gaza as trophies and shoved them under the ground. It's
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Speaker 1: been three years, and this is the first anniversary where
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Speaker 1: nobody was left in Gaza. THE LAST BODY, A 24-YEAR-OLD
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Speaker 1: POLICE OFFICER NAMED RAN GILIVI, HE WAS KILLED FIGHTING THE INVADERS.
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Speaker 1: HE CAME HOME IN JANUARY, 843 DAYS AFTER THEY TOOK HIM.
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Speaker 1: ISRAEL'S PRESIDENT SAID IT'S THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2014 THAT
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Speaker 1: THERE'S NO ISRAELI HELD IN GAZA IN FACT. Three years later. Well,
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Speaker 1: the ceasefire is held, more or less, since October 10th
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Speaker 1: of last year. Phase one, it's done. The hostages and
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Speaker 1: a board of peace with the president of the United
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Speaker 1: States in the chair. Phase two is where it sits.
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Speaker 1: Hamas signed a 15-point roadmap in July. One authority, one law,
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Speaker 1: one weapon. And then said it won't give up a
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Speaker 1: rifle until Israel pulls out. Now, Israel, they're not pulling
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Speaker 1: out until the rifles are gone. So we're at a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a stalemate. The Board of Peace just
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Speaker 1: put a $ 2. 5 billion reconstruction plan on the table, and
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Speaker 1: Hamas still has his weapons for now. Three years, and
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Speaker 1: Hamas is mostly destroyed. Their tunnels and bases in Gaza, destroyed.
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Speaker 1: Their ability to attack innocent Israelis, depleted. But there's a
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Speaker 1: new war being waged across the West. An entire movement
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Speaker 1: on college campuses, you've seen it. And in the streets
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Speaker 1: of places like New York and France. RADICAL GROUP OF
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Speaker 1: ISLAMO-MARXISTS AND THEIR SYMPATHIZERS REWRITING HISTORY, HIDING THE STORY OF
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Speaker 1: OCTOBER 7TH BEHIND A NEW GOOGLE EARTH MAP OF GAZA
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Speaker 1: AND A FREE PALESTINE T-SHIRT. AS THEY WAVE PALESTINIAN FLAGS
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Speaker 1: AND ACCUSE ISRAEL OF GENOCIDE, THE REAL STORY REMAINS HIDDEN
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Speaker 1: IN PLAIN SIGHT. THE HUMAN STORY. Two innocent Israelis from
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Speaker 1: the town Kibbutz Kafar, which sits about two miles from
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Speaker 1: the Gaza fence. On October 7th, 80 people were murdered there.
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Speaker 1: 19 were kidnapped. Keith and Aviva were among those taken.
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Speaker 1: Keith grew up in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, and moved
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Speaker 1: to Israel as a young man. Aviva was born in
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Speaker 1: South Africa and came to Israel at eight years old.
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Speaker 1: They'd lived on Kfar Azzah for 40 years, four children,
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Speaker 1: five grandchildren. Aviva taught kindergarten. Keith worked for a pharmaceutical company.
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Speaker 1: They were in their 60s. At 629, they went into
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Speaker 1: a safe room as the alarms were sounding. The terrorists
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Speaker 1: shot through the door, dragged them out. They forced the
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Speaker 1: two into their own car, drove them to Gaza. Somewhere
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Speaker 1: on that drive, Keith was shot in the hand. The
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Speaker 1: next day, Hamas posted the video of the seagulls being
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Speaker 1: driven across the border. That's how their children found out.
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Speaker 1: Aviva came home on November 26, 2023. In the first exchange, Keith, well,
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Speaker 1: he didn't. He was in Gaza for 484 days. HE
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Speaker 1: SAID THE TERRORISTS KICKED HIM, SPAT ON HIM, HELD HIM
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Speaker 1: WITH NO WATER, NO LIGHT, NO AIR TO BREATHE. WHEN
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Speaker 1: THE FIRST TROOSE COLLAPSED, HE SAYS THE TERRORIST BECAME EVEN
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Speaker 1: MORE CRUEL, MORE VIOLENT. HIS MOTHER DIED WHEN HE WAS
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Speaker 1: IN CAPTIVITY TWO MONTHS BEFORE HE WAS RELEASED. Hamas put
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Speaker 1: him on camera, a proof-of-life video, the kind they make
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Speaker 1: you record. He broke down crying in the middle of it.
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Speaker 1: That's how America learned Keith Siegel was still alive. And
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Speaker 1: then more hope. In January of 2025, before the inauguration
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Speaker 1: of President Trump, Melania Trump sat down with Aviva Siegel
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Speaker 1: in New York. She brought a handmade book about Keith
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Speaker 1: and about the ordeals of the 7th. She told her,
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Speaker 1: and it's in the film, on Amazon, Melania, great documentary
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Speaker 1: if you haven't gone and seen it, go and see it.
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Speaker 1: The cameras were rolling through all of it in that meeting.
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Speaker 1: She said, it gave me so much hope and I
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Speaker 1: could feel Melania's heart with me. According to the White House,
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Speaker 1: the first lady took that book, gave it to the
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Speaker 1: president that night. Her words, that first meeting with Aviva
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Speaker 1: Siegel served as a catalyst to the events leading up
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Speaker 1: to Keith's freedom. The film goes further. And as she says,
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Speaker 1: she played a key role in getting Keith Siegel out.
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Speaker 1: Twelve days, in fact, after the inauguration, Keith Siegel was out.
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Speaker 1: On February 1st, 2025, Hamas walked him onto a stage
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Speaker 1: in Gaza and handed him to the Red Cross, 77
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Speaker 1: pounds lighter than the day they stole him from his home.
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Speaker 1: And he waved. The first American freed under the deal
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Speaker 1: 12 days after Donald Trump took the oath of office.
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Speaker 1: Promises made, promises kept. Two weeks later, he sat down
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Speaker 1: and recorded a message.
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Speaker 2: I'm a survivor.
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Speaker 3: I was held for 484 days in unimaginable conditions. Every
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Speaker 3: single day felt like it could be my last. President Trump,
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Speaker 3: you are the reason I am home alive. You are
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Speaker 3: the reason I was reunited with my beloved wife, four
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Speaker 3: children and five grandchildren. Thank you for your continued fight
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Speaker 3: against terror and for your bold leadership that has brought
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Speaker 3: me and many others back home to our families, to
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Speaker 3: safety and to security.
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Speaker 1: Aviva and Keith, they represent the truth of October 7th. Today,
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Speaker 1: It's their freedom we celebrate, and they join me for
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Speaker 1: a one-on-one interview right after the break. Don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Before the break, we told you the story of Keith
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Speaker 1: and Aviva Siegel, innocent Israelis kidnapped by Hamas during the
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Speaker 1: October 7th attacks three years ago. Aviva and Keith, it
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Speaker 1: is my honor to welcome you both to the show.
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Speaker 1: Three years, and I'm sure this ordeal has just been
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Speaker 1: so challenging for you. You're back together. You're both free.
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Speaker 1: Reflecting on on an event that probably feels like yesterday.
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Speaker 1: What does today mean for you?
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Speaker 5: Today and, you know, the last couple of weeks have
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Speaker 5: been very difficult because we come from a kibbutz, a
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Speaker 5: community that lost 64 people. And so many of them
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Speaker 5: are our best friends. And it's very, very difficult to
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Speaker 5: say goodbye at once to so many people that you
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Speaker 5: love so much.
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Speaker 6: So today is a very difficult day for me.
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Speaker 5: I'm carrying the pictures of landing in Gaza, not understanding
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Speaker 5: what am I doing there? And then two minutes later,
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Speaker 5: a family from our community, a mother and three children
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Speaker 5: come down underneath the ground in a tunnel. And, you know,
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Speaker 5: the way they looked and the way they told us
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Speaker 5: that they just saw their father and their sister being
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Speaker 5: killed in front of their eyes. So I can see
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Speaker 5: those images of, of them underneath the ground and Keith
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Speaker 5: in so much pain because they broke his ribs and
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Speaker 5: they shot him and he was bleeding. You know, it's
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Speaker 5: a difficult.
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Speaker 6: Time for me.
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Speaker 1: You know, your story starts on a regular day and
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Speaker 1: then next thing you know, it's just the worst horrors
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Speaker 1: anybody can imagine. Like you mentioned, they broke Keith's ribs.
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Speaker 1: They injured you. I think you tore a tendon as
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Speaker 1: they were capturing you. You got dragged into the tunnels
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Speaker 1: in Gaza. You couldn't breathe. There was no oxygen. Can
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Speaker 1: you talk about what that day was like? Because it's
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Speaker 1: hard for people to imagine. They see these images on TV.
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Speaker 1: Then they see the recreation of the images that they
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Speaker 1: don't want people to see. What was that day like
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Speaker 1: for you guys? Can you just talk about it so
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Speaker 1: people can understand how horrific that day was?
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Speaker 5: Well, we forced down to go down underneath the ground
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Speaker 5: and going into a tunnel and like walking down and
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Speaker 5: walking a long time underneath the ground. You don't know
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Speaker 5: where you're going. It's dark.
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Speaker 6: It's slippery. You can fall. It's dangerous. And I'm just.
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Speaker 5: not understanding what's happening to me, what they're going to
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Speaker 5: do to me. So we're there underneath the ground, Keith
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Speaker 5: and I, and I meet another hostage with us and
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Speaker 5: we just touching death all the time. I'll never forget
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Speaker 5: the moment that Keith sat up and looked at me
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Speaker 5: and he said he can't breathe.
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Speaker 6: And he was.
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Speaker 5: Trying to breathe. And I told him, Keith, just lie
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Speaker 5: down and try and breathe. And I remember like trying,
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Speaker 5: not to hear his breathing so heavy. And I didn't
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Speaker 5: want to look at Keith because I didn't want to
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Speaker 5: look at Keith dead. And I felt like we're going
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Speaker 5: to die because I could hardly breathe and I could
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Speaker 5: see Keith hardly breathing. And then I just said to myself,
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Speaker 5: I hope that Keith dies before me. Please, please just
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Speaker 5: let him die. No, let me die. Sorry, let me
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Speaker 5: die before Keith because I don't want to see Keith
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Speaker 5: dead in front of me. and separating from my life.
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Speaker 5: And we really, really touched it. It was difficult, but
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Speaker 5: I just want to say by telling you that it's
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Speaker 5: not enough. I want to tell everybody that it was
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Speaker 5: so easy for Hamas terrorist to know that we dying there,
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Speaker 5: to know that we haven't got any water to drink,
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Speaker 5: to know that we haven't got any oxygen and we
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Speaker 5: don't have any food to eat. And we just lying
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Speaker 5: there in the middle of underground Nobody was with us.
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Speaker 5: We were left there alone, touching death, and they knew
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Speaker 5: that we were dying. And it was just so easy
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Speaker 5: for them to leave us there. And that's something that
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Speaker 5: I'll never, ever understand.
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Speaker 1: Now, you were freed before Keith. Keith, you were imprisoned
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Speaker 1: by Hamas for, I can't even imagine how long, years. Now,
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Speaker 1: what I'd like to know is, Aviva, what it was
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Speaker 1: like for you to be freed knowing Keith was behind.
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Speaker 1: And Keith, what was that experience like for you? I mean,
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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what you both endured for that whole time.
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Speaker 2: Aviva was released after 51 days. We were separated after
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Speaker 2: spending 50 days together. And they said that Aviva would
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Speaker 2: be released the next day. And then I would be
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Speaker 2: released the day after Aviva. We said goodbye. They came
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Speaker 2: hoping that we would see each other in another day
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Speaker 2: or two. And then day came and day went. And
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Speaker 2: I was with a woman hostage. She was released and
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Speaker 2: then I was alone. And over the course of a
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Speaker 2: total of 484 days, I was held by Hamas terrorists.
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Speaker 2: in many different locations, in tunnels, in schools, in apartments
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Speaker 2: and in homes. And I was threatened by them and
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Speaker 2: I was picked by terrorists and spat on by terrorists
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Speaker 2: and they threatened to kill me. And they held me
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Speaker 2: in horrific places that the hygiene was next to nothing,
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Speaker 2: not being able to clean my body, not having enough food,
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Speaker 2: being starved, having enough water being locked up by myself
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Speaker 2: in a dark room i was held for six months
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Speaker 2: by myself some of it totally alone in a locked
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Speaker 2: up dark room and some of it living together with
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Speaker 2: Hamas terrorists and being totally disconnected from my family and
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Speaker 2: the outside world not knowing not having any idea how
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Speaker 2: my family is doing and what's going on and how
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Speaker 2: long this will last and when i when Will I
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Speaker 2: be released? And if I will ever be released? And
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Speaker 2: this total uncertainty and daily fear, anxiety, and worry. And
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Speaker 2: being held in places that are not suitable for human
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Speaker 2: beings to be held in. You mentioned the tunnels.
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Speaker 1: Now, you both witnessed horrific things. I mean, besides the
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Speaker 1: people being murdered, but you saw women being raped. You
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Speaker 1: saw people being killed. I mean, Hamas was just torturing people, right?
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Speaker 2: I saw a woman being tortured. I was brought into
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Speaker 2: a room and I saw a woman hostage, 40 years
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Speaker 2: old at the time, that they had tied her hands
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Speaker 2: and her feet together and they'd covered her mouth with
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Speaker 2: tape and they were beating her. They were beating her,
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Speaker 2: the three terrorists, and they were poking her forehead with
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Speaker 2: a sharp rod. They were applying pressure to it as
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Speaker 2: she was lying on her back on the floor. And
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Speaker 2: I witnessed that. And me, myself, I mentioned being kicked
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Speaker 2: and spat on and being threatened with knives and weapons.
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Speaker 2: They pointed weapons at me and said they were going
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Speaker 2: to kill me for no reason. I did everything they said,
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Speaker 2: everything they told me to do. I was nice to them.
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Speaker 2: I was polite to them. I was just, being easygoing
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Speaker 2: for them and being considerate for their needs and just
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Speaker 2: was abused and was held against my will for 484 days.
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Speaker 5: Now, I just want to tell you that the picture
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Speaker 5: of Eviatar was all over the world, that he was
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Speaker 5: digging his own grave and the way that he looked like.
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Speaker 5: And I want to just tell everybody, that Keith came
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Speaker 5: home looking like Evertel. Every bone in his body was
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Speaker 5: sticked out. He looked like a skeleton and he didn't
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Speaker 5: look like himself. And I want to say that for
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Speaker 5: 484 days that Keith was there with Hamas terrorists, they
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Speaker 5: made him dig his own grave by threatening him and touching.
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Speaker 6: Death all the time. I was there with him.
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Speaker 5: I was there threatened and also could have died every
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Speaker 5: minute because I was threatened all the time. And, you know,
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Speaker 5: to keep quiet a half a day, one day is okay.
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Speaker 5: But to keep quiet, completely quiet for so long, I
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Speaker 5: was there for 51 days. I'll never forget after a
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Speaker 5: couple of weeks while we were brought underneath the ground
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Speaker 5: and then we were allowed to talk. I remember like
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Speaker 5: starting to talk for the first time after such a
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Speaker 5: long time. And I was surprised that I could talk.
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Speaker 5: I remember the words coming out of my mouth. And
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Speaker 5: it's just, you know, what Keith and I went through
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Speaker 5: and all the hostages.
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Speaker 6: Is beyond, beyond, beyond.
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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, there aren't, you know, Hamas terrorists didn't take
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Speaker 5: pictures when they threatened us or when they treated us
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Speaker 5: like they did, starved us while they were eating in
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Speaker 5: front of us. and drank water while they didn't give
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Speaker 5: us water. Or like Keith said, kicked him. They pulled
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Speaker 5: me by my hair and dragged me. They broke Keith's ribs.
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Speaker 5: And I want to say that because we haven't got
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Speaker 5: any pictures of the time that we were there, but
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Speaker 5: we have the pictures in our head because we remember them.
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Speaker 5: I decided to write a book and the book is
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Speaker 5: called Survive to Tell. And You know, sitting here next
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Speaker 5: to Keith, I just want to say that when I
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Speaker 5: started writing the book, just as I came back after
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Speaker 5: being there for 51 days, I decided that I had
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Speaker 5: to write a book for my grandchildren, for Keith's grandchildren,
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Speaker 5: because I knew that it has to be on paper
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Speaker 5: and I need to spread the truth for my grandchildren
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Speaker 5: and for everybody. Because I didn't know if Keith would ever, ever.
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Speaker 6: Come back and if he would ever come back alive.
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Speaker 5: So I wanted them to really be proud of Keith
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Speaker 5: like I was because Keith was just the best person
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Speaker 5: that I could ask to go to captivity. The book
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Speaker 5: Survive to Tell is out on Amazon. It's just come
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Speaker 5: out now. And, you know, it's the truth. Everybody that
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Speaker 5: will read the book will just, you know, just touch
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Speaker 5: the truth just like I did. You'll see, you'll cry
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Speaker 5: with me when I cried and you'll laugh with me
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Speaker 5: when I laughed. Keith was funny sometimes in Gaza and
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Speaker 5: I was so lucky just to have him next to
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Speaker 5: me all the time.
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Speaker 1: You, in this book, you took notes while you were
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Speaker 1: in captivity. You wanted to preserve this memory. for your children.
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Speaker 1: You wanted people to know what you went through. And
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Speaker 1: then you took these notes with you when you met
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Speaker 1: with Melania Trump, because Melania invited you to meet with
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Speaker 1: her in New York. This was before the inauguration. You
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Speaker 1: told her, you pleaded with her to help you get
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Speaker 1: Keith out. And she did. And her and President Trump
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Speaker 1: worked together to get Keith released. And you brought these
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Speaker 1: notes with you. Can you talk about going from all
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Speaker 1: the horror that you just described, everything you both went through,
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Speaker 1: Talk about when you met with Melania and then what
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Speaker 1: it was like being freed after all of that time
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Speaker 1: and seeing each other again.
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Speaker 5: So I wanna, you know, I didn't have notes to
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Speaker 5: write in Gaza and I didn't have a pen to
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Speaker 5: write in Gaza.
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Speaker 6: The only thing that I did have in Gaza was Keith.
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Speaker 5: And the only thing that I owned was one toothbrush
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Speaker 5: without toothpaste to share with Keith.
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Speaker 6: That's the only thing that I had. I didn't have notes.
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Speaker 6: When I came back, I.
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Speaker 5: Just felt that I have to leave the memories for
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Speaker 5: kids' grandchildren because I didn't know if people come home alive.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 5: And meeting Melania and sharing the pain that I had
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Speaker 5: because I was in just so much pain. I don't
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Speaker 5: think that anybody can imagine being with Hamas, threatened to
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Speaker 5: die all the time. in the worst conditions that you
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Speaker 5: can think about, being treated like, you know, not like
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Speaker 5: a human being should be treated, knowing that Keith, my Keith.
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Speaker 7: Is there.
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Speaker 1: And what was it like the day you were free?
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Speaker 6: It was very difficult.
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Speaker 5: So I asked to see Melania because a woman to
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Speaker 5: a woman, I knew she would understand.
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Speaker 6: And I touched her heart. And I'm sure she helped.
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Speaker 1: And what was that like when you were finally freed,
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Speaker 1: both of you? I mean, when Keith, when you were
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Speaker 1: let out after 400 plus days and you guys got
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Speaker 1: to see each other again, what was that moment like?
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Speaker 2: Well, happiest moment in my life. Dream gratitude. Feeling so fortunate.
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Speaker 2: And just after so long, not knowing how Aviva and
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Speaker 2: my family were doing. to have relief to know that
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Speaker 2: they are, that they had went through this horrific 484
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Speaker 2: days and came out of it strong, also traumatized and
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Speaker 2: also dealing with the trauma, but strong and coming to
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Speaker 2: realize everything that Aviva did for advocacy, traveling all over
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Speaker 2: the world and meeting world leaders and just doing everything
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Speaker 2: possible to get me, to get me released. And that
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Speaker 2: was very, very moving and very, very inspiring. Wow.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is it. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: When Keith came home, it was, you know, it was
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Speaker 5: like a dream. I had to pinch myself. First of all,
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Speaker 5: I couldn't believe that it was true because it just
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Speaker 5: happened in a second. So for me, you know, it
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Speaker 5: was like, you.
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Speaker 6: Know, maybe Keith will come home. Maybe he's alive. Maybe
23:39
Speaker 6: he's dead.
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Speaker 5: We don't really know if he's going to come home
23:42
Speaker 5: or if he's dead already. And there he is standing
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Speaker 5: in front of me and I can hug him and
23:48
Speaker 5: I can be with him. And it was just amazing.
23:52
Speaker 5: But I want to say that Keith really came back
23:55
Speaker 5: so fragile, so thin. I was very worried about him.
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Speaker 5: So with the joy... And the love, the worrying came also.
24:05
Speaker 5: And I wasn't free when I came back. I wasn't
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Speaker 5: free even when Keith came back. It took me a while.
24:11
Speaker 5: Only when all the hostages came back, I started feeling
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Speaker 5: like a free person that I can, you know, like
24:18
Speaker 5: feel it in my bones because Keith and I were fighting.
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Speaker 6: I was fighting for Keith and all the hostages.
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Speaker 5: And then when Keith came back, we were fighting for
24:27
Speaker 5: all the hostages to come back.
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Speaker 1: You guys have been through so much and And really,
24:32
Speaker 1: it's a true love story. And I'm so glad you
24:34
Speaker 1: wrote this down in a book. I encourage everybody to
24:37
Speaker 1: read the book on Amazon. You have that book to
24:40
Speaker 1: hold up again? Everybody go.
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Speaker 6: Survive to tell.
24:47
Speaker 1: It's a story. You absolutely have to read this story.
24:52
Speaker 1: It's important to tell. And I appreciate you both being
24:55
Speaker 1: here so much. God bless you both. And again, thanks
24:58
Speaker 1: for being here. I'm so glad that you guys are
25:00
Speaker 1: together again.
25:02
Speaker 6: Thank you very much for everything you're doing for us.
25:05
Speaker 7: Really, really, really.
25:06
Speaker 5: For human beings, we need to stand up for human
25:09
Speaker 5: rights to make this world to be a better world
25:12
Speaker 5: for the next generations and the next generations. And I
25:14
Speaker 5: just pray that one day we'll all be able to
25:18
Speaker 5: say this world is a free world to just love
25:23
Speaker 5: and enjoy.
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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful message. God bless you both.
25:27
Speaker 7: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
25:29
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have the chance to talk again real soon.
25:32
Speaker 6: Thank you.
25:33
Speaker 8: Thank you.
25:33
Speaker 2: All the best.
25:34
Speaker 1: You too. Coming up next, is Lindsay Clancy inspiring postpartum
25:40
Speaker 1: violence against children? Since the nation watched a hung jury
25:44
Speaker 1: in the Lindsay Clancy case, and the hundreds of women
25:47
Speaker 1: wearing pink demanding justice for her instead of the children,
25:50
Speaker 1: a mother in Texas, a mother in South Carolina, and
25:54
Speaker 1: a mother in North Dakota all tried to kill their
25:57
Speaker 1: children or killed them? Is this what sympathy is buying?
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Speaker 1: It wasn't long ago that the nation was captivated by
26:50
Speaker 1: this trial of Lindsay Clancy, accused of, I don't even
26:53
Speaker 1: know how we can say, accused of killing her three kids. Well,
26:57
Speaker 1: another mother now has attempted to kill her own kids,
27:02
Speaker 1: 37-year-old Holly Flores of North Lake, Texas. She's accused of
27:06
Speaker 1: stabbing her two children, ages three and just 10 months old. Thankfully,
27:12
Speaker 1: both are expected to live. She's charged with Two counts
27:17
Speaker 1: of attempted Capitol murder police have been to that house
27:19
Speaker 1: at least five times since March, and the arrest affidavit
27:23
Speaker 1: says her husband told officers that she'd been struggling with,
27:26
Speaker 1: you guessed it, postpartum depression. Familiar, right? Ten days before that,
27:33
Speaker 1: Spartanburg County, South Carolina, Taylor Gosnell accused of stabbing her
27:38
Speaker 1: six-year-old and her three-year-old about 50 times between them. The
27:43
Speaker 1: six-year-old may lose an arm. August 6th, Mandon, North Dakota,
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Speaker 1: Kaylee Earhart, 22. Police say, I can't even say this.
27:56
Speaker 1: Let's just say she tried to kill her children. Two
27:59
Speaker 1: of them died. On video from the father's phone, she
28:04
Speaker 1: was holding a pistol. And one of the kids, I can't.
28:08
Speaker 1: It was a bad story. Look it up if you
28:10
Speaker 1: want to. Three mothers in 10 weeks. all while the
28:14
Speaker 1: country watched Lindsay Clancy's saga play out in court. And
28:20
Speaker 1: you remember Lindsay, right? Cora Clancy was five, Dawson was three,
28:25
Speaker 1: Callan was eight months old. Their mother strangled them in Duxbury,
28:29
Speaker 1: Massachusetts in January of 2023. Her lawyers blamed postpartum psychosis
28:34
Speaker 1: and 11 of the 12 jurors agreed one hero wouldn't
28:39
Speaker 1: go along with it. Mistrial. Prosecutors Sullivan said whether they'll
28:43
Speaker 1: try her again. Her lawyers are in court arguing that
28:47
Speaker 1: she can never be tried again. I think the judge
28:49
Speaker 1: is rejecting that argument. The next hearing is on November 2nd. Tonight,
28:54
Speaker 1: she's in a state hospital, not jail for now. And
28:58
Speaker 1: here's the part that concerns me and should concern everybody else.
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Speaker 1: While her trial was playing out, 400 people, almost all
29:05
Speaker 1: of them women, stood outside the courthouse in pink in
29:09
Speaker 1: solidarity with Lindsay. They weren't there to see justice for
29:14
Speaker 1: the children she killed. They were there to support Lindsay.
29:18
Speaker 1: At least 25 pro-Clancy T-shirt designs were available on Etsy.
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Speaker 1: Team Lindsay, they said.
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Speaker 8: Seriously.
29:26
Speaker 1: Now, I can't tell you whether the mothers doing this
29:30
Speaker 1: have been inspired by Clancy or how common women trying
29:34
Speaker 1: to kill their children really is. But I can tell
29:37
Speaker 1: you this. Pink shirts... for a woman who strangled three children,
29:42
Speaker 1: a t-shirt line, a culture that wants justice for the murderer,
29:47
Speaker 1: not for the children. And 11 out of 12 jurors
29:52
Speaker 1: were ready to say it wasn't even her fault. And
29:56
Speaker 1: now in North Lake, Texas, same excuse. I'M NOT GOING
29:59
Speaker 1: TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
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Speaker 1: I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT GOING
30:06
Speaker 1: TO TALK ABOUT Joining me now is Justine Brooke-Murray, political
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Speaker 1: content creator. Welcome back to David Pollak Prime Time. This
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Speaker 1: is exactly what all of us were saying during the trial,
30:21
Speaker 1: that the women being sympathetic towards Lindsay Clancy and all
30:24
Speaker 1: those videos on TikTok and throughout the Internet, same Lindsay,
30:28
Speaker 1: as they portrayed injuring their children. And now look what's happening.
30:32
Speaker 1: This is really disturbing, right?
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Speaker 9: Yeah, now I regret wearing a pink shirt today.
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Speaker 8: So thank you for that.
30:40
Speaker 9: It's, you know, I do remember the good old days
30:43
Speaker 9: when the feminists of 2016, they wore the pink hats
30:48
Speaker 9: to show solidarity with their feminist Marxist movement. But now
30:53
Speaker 9: their own children are being used as the black square.
30:57
Speaker 9: So they're sacrificing their children. It's like their own kids
31:00
Speaker 9: are the sacrificial lamb to go, yes, I would murder
31:03
Speaker 9: my kids too. Yes, that's a great idea. But if
31:07
Speaker 9: you're a man, you're automatically guilty until proven innocent. And
31:11
Speaker 9: then even after you're proven innocent, you're still guilty because
31:14
Speaker 9: you're a man. It's like gender Marxism. But if you're
31:17
Speaker 9: a woman, You're innocent even when you're proven guilty, actually,
31:22
Speaker 9: especially when you're proven guilty, and that makes you automatically
31:25
Speaker 9: a victim. They'll treat a woman who sucks the life
31:30
Speaker 9: out of her children, a woman who stabs her children,
31:34
Speaker 9: in this most recent case, as a victim of frat
31:37
Speaker 9: house gang banging. It's this idea that the leftist ideology,
31:43
Speaker 9: the left has always been a death cult, But they've
31:45
Speaker 9: gone from saying it's morally justified to hunt down and
31:48
Speaker 9: kill people with the wrong opinions, like Charlie Kirk, then
31:51
Speaker 9: it's morally justified to hunt down people who are deemed
31:54
Speaker 9: to own too much, or if their mere existence as
31:57
Speaker 9: a Christian, a Jew, or a white person threatens their ideology,
32:02
Speaker 9: it's okay to murder them next. Now it's okay to
32:04
Speaker 9: murder your kids if they pose an inconvenience. It was
32:08
Speaker 9: already okay with the left with abortion, but now they
32:11
Speaker 9: support late-term abortion, which is literally post-term abortion.
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Speaker 1: Abortion. Yeah, it's such an excellent point. And I've been
32:19
Speaker 1: covering on this show since the botched execution of Krista Pike,
32:23
Speaker 1: because you had all these people coming out sympathetic for
32:25
Speaker 1: Krista Pike. And then that same time, people started posting
32:28
Speaker 1: on my social media, oh, just get the maid people
32:30
Speaker 1: from Canada. I'm like, what's maid? And then I find
32:32
Speaker 1: out Canada has this prolific euthanization program. And in the Netherlands,
32:36
Speaker 1: they just put down a two-year-old child who had YOU KNOW,
32:41
Speaker 1: SIGNIFICANT PHYSICAL DISEASE, BUT WE'RE GETTING TO A PLACE, EXACTLY,
32:45
Speaker 1: YOU SAID, WHERE DEATH IS JUSTIFIED BASED ON WHATEVER CIRCUMSTANCES
32:49
Speaker 1: ARE SURROUNDING THE DEATH. WHEN WE START REALLY SUBSTITUTING WHAT
32:53
Speaker 1: WE THINK IS JUSTIFICATION FOR DEATH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE
32:57
Speaker 1: THIS GOES. YOU KNOW, ABORTION IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE. NOW
33:01
Speaker 1: WE'RE EXCUSING MOTHERS WHO ARE KILLING THEIR KIDS AND FEELING
33:03
Speaker 1: SYMPATHETIC FOR THEM. AND NOW WE'RE FEELING BAD FOR MURDERERS
33:06
Speaker 1: BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN JAIL TOO LONG. I don't know
33:09
Speaker 1: where this goes. All I know is it's concerning. We
33:11
Speaker 1: need more morality. We need more God in this country.
33:14
Speaker 2: I think.
33:15
Speaker 1: We do.
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Speaker 9: Actually, in the Netherlands, you can put down your kid
33:18
Speaker 9: up until they're 12 years old without their consent because
33:22
Speaker 9: the ideology behind it is, well, if they're not legally
33:25
Speaker 9: an adult, therefore they're only half a human. Hmm, that
33:29
Speaker 9: sounds familiar. That actually sounds familiar during the days of
33:32
Speaker 9: slavery when they considered black Americans less of a person.
33:36
Speaker 9: Now they're considering children less of a human being because
33:40
Speaker 9: they're not old enough to be considered as humans. It's
33:45
Speaker 9: really insane. It's also rooted in this culture, this modern culture,
33:51
Speaker 9: we see it in our movies and our media, where
33:54
Speaker 9: they have to rewrite every classic to make the evil person,
33:59
Speaker 9: the villain, the cartoon villain, the victim. And actually it's
34:03
Speaker 9: Cruella de Vil, she was a victim. Maleficent, she was
34:07
Speaker 9: a victim and it was actually the King and Queen's
34:09
Speaker 9: family who were oppressing her. So of course she just
34:12
Speaker 9: had to react. She had no choice but to become murderous.
34:17
Speaker 9: And it reminds me of, today is the third anniversary
34:20
Speaker 9: of October 7th. So part of it is actually like
34:25
Speaker 9: the underlying ideology with this is that, well, Western society,
34:30
Speaker 9: we're automatically the oppressors, right? So we deserved October 7th.
34:33
Speaker 9: We deserved 9-11 because we're America and we're the West
34:37
Speaker 9: and we're the most productive, successful society. So that automatically
34:43
Speaker 9: makes us bad. There must be something bad about us.
34:46
Speaker 9: We must have done something to deserve getting terrorized and
34:51
Speaker 9: getting hunted down and killed. So this is just, it
34:55
Speaker 9: goes the same. It's the same reasoning with they're just
34:57
Speaker 9: putting down kids now.
34:59
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:59
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Remember when anytime Charlie was at an event, he would
35:02
Speaker 1: argue against abortion, they would be like, it's just a
35:04
Speaker 1: clump of cells, the liberals would say. It's inside me.
35:07
Speaker 1: I mean, this whole idea that life can be just dismissed,
35:11
Speaker 1: and Luigi Mangione, for example. Oh, well, he was a CEO.
35:14
Speaker 1: You're right. All the justifications, it's troubling, which is why,
35:18
Speaker 1: I mean, not everything ties to the midterms, but these
35:21
Speaker 1: are the people that want to take power back in November.
35:24
Speaker 1: We can't let them have it. Justine Brook-Murray, thank you
35:27
Speaker 1: so much for being here, as always.
35:28
Speaker 6: Anytime.
35:29
Speaker 1: Thank you.
35:29
Speaker 5: Thank you.
35:31
Speaker 1: Still ahead, the masks are coming out again just in
35:35
Speaker 1: time for the midterms. Imagine that. And they're already out
35:39
Speaker 1: in Siberia, by the way, where a plague researcher is
35:42
Speaker 1: dead and the Kremlin spokesman says, eh, ignore the rumors. Plus,
35:46
Speaker 1: Ebola reaches a fourth country. Don't worry, guys. You don't
35:50
Speaker 1: need any toilet paper for this. And diesel just dropped
35:52
Speaker 1: 18 cents in one week. What the president's red diesel
35:56
Speaker 1: order means for the farmer bringing in your food this month.
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36:44
Speaker 1: Well, it seems the masks will be coming out again
36:48
Speaker 1: just in time for the midterms. Do you expect anything less?
36:51
Speaker 1: That's right. It's a plague. It all started on October
36:57
Speaker 1: 2nd when a 28-year-old lab technician named Darya Shiplova died
37:04
Speaker 1: in Shelyakov in Russia's Irkutsk region. I don't know how
37:09
Speaker 1: to say Russian names. She worked at this anti-plague institute.
37:14
Speaker 1: Russian media says she broke a test tube of pneumonic
37:19
Speaker 1: plague a week before she died. You would think they
37:22
Speaker 1: would make those a little bit more durable, right? Well,
37:25
Speaker 1: 197 people who had contact with her, they had to
37:28
Speaker 1: be under observation. Five hospitals, including a children's hospital and
37:33
Speaker 1: a maternity ward, were closed for three weeks. The aluminum
37:37
Speaker 1: plant down the road ordered masks. The director called it
37:40
Speaker 1: a routine response to seasonal respiratory illness. Not a test
37:44
Speaker 1: tube of deadly diseases. Nothing to worry about there. Neighboring
37:48
Speaker 1: town told its people to stay out of the region,
37:51
Speaker 1: then deleted the warning two hours later in the official
37:55
Speaker 1: cause of death. Pneumonia of an unknown origin. I mean,
37:59
Speaker 1: I guess. The Kremlin spokesman says, ignore the rumors. The
38:05
Speaker 1: White House says it's monitoring the outbreak and assessing options.
38:09
Speaker 1: The president Monday on the South Lawn had this to say.
38:12
Speaker 1: Anybody that has that kind of a problem, we're.
38:17
Speaker 8: Always letting down.
38:19
Speaker 1: Now, CDC says there's no indication of a broader threat
38:21
Speaker 1: to the United States. Plague is treatable with antibiotics. America
38:26
Speaker 1: sees about seven cases a year, believe it or not,
38:29
Speaker 1: usually in the rural West, and it treats them. So realistically,
38:32
Speaker 1: the story is kind of a nothing burger for now.
38:34
Speaker 1: But wait, there's more. Ebola is also back, it seems.
38:40
Speaker 1: Remember Ebola? The World Health Organization declared an international emergency
38:45
Speaker 1: in May. As of this week, 8,600 confirmed cases in Congo, 4,100 dead.
38:51
Speaker 1: Monday night, it reached a fourth country. A Kenyan man
38:54
Speaker 1: who'd lived in Congo for seven years drove to Kampala,
38:59
Speaker 1: flew to Nairobi on Saturday, and was dead by Monday.
39:02
Speaker 1: 23 passengers and four crew members are being traced. Now,
39:06
Speaker 1: cases in the United States, zero. And anyone who's been
39:10
Speaker 1: in Congo, Uganda, or South Sudan in the last 21
39:13
Speaker 1: days gets funneled through a screening at the airport. The
39:16
Speaker 1: CDC's words, the likelihood of it spreading here is very low.
39:22
Speaker 1: But regardless of the threat to us, as expected, it
39:25
Speaker 1: appears Democrats are taking full advantage of the opportunity, and
39:29
Speaker 1: they've run the play before. In October 2014, there was
39:33
Speaker 1: one Ebola patient in Dallas. Two nurses infected. And ABC's
39:37
Speaker 1: headline was, Ebola is officially the October surprise. And here
39:40
Speaker 1: we are again in October. 65% of Americans said they
39:44
Speaker 1: were worried about the epidemic back then. Democrats were the
39:48
Speaker 1: incumbents at the time. They lost the Senate. This time,
39:50
Speaker 1: they're not the incumbents. Between now and November 3rd, I
39:53
Speaker 1: expect we'll see masks coming out again, and not just at,
39:57
Speaker 1: you know, the Free Free Palestine rallies. And when you
40:01
Speaker 1: see them, just remind yourself how many Ebola cases are
40:06
Speaker 1: in the United States. And the answer is still zero.
40:11
Speaker 1: Now is Dr. Joseph Varon, president, Independent Medical Alliance. Doctor,
40:18
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Should people freak out,
40:21
Speaker 1: buy all the toilet paper they can find and hunker
40:24
Speaker 1: down with their masks and face shields on?
40:28
Speaker 10: Okay, well, you know, the answer is simple. I mean,
40:30
Speaker 10: people should be concerned and they should be informed, yes. Panicked,
40:34
Speaker 10: absolutely not. Ebola, you know, is a serious epidemic in
40:38
Speaker 10: Central Africa, but it does not transmit as easily as
40:42
Speaker 10: any respiratory viruses. And regarding the Russia, we don't even
40:46
Speaker 10: have confirmation that this woman died from plague. So we
40:49
Speaker 10: really need facts before we create fear.
40:52
Speaker 1: So, and of course, that I agree with you completely.
40:54
Speaker 1: And it just seems, it's just a coincidence. of a
40:57
Speaker 1: month before an election. We're talking about diseases. It's in
40:59
Speaker 1: the news. I mean, there really is nothing to fear.
41:04
Speaker 1: But why does it always seem that we keep talking
41:06
Speaker 1: about illnesses right before an election? Do you think people
41:09
Speaker 1: are trying to take advantage of this for political purposes?
41:12
Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean, there is no question about it.
41:14
Speaker 10: If you hear the word plague, I mean, that terrifies
41:17
Speaker 10: people because they immediately think about the Black Death. But
41:20
Speaker 10: for God's sake, you know, this is 2026, not 1348.
41:25
Speaker 10: We know the organism. We know how it spreads. We
41:28
Speaker 10: know how to diagnose it. And more importantly, we know
41:30
Speaker 10: how to treat it. So, you know, when I hear
41:33
Speaker 10: these things like plague and that they put 200 people
41:36
Speaker 10: away so that they can monitor them, I just look
41:40
Speaker 10: at this as like, what's next? Are they going to
41:43
Speaker 10: mask us and then lock us all down?
41:45
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what everybody worries about. And you see
41:47
Speaker 1: all the accounts on social media saying, not doing this again,
41:50
Speaker 1: not doing this again. And then we hear all this
41:53
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci testimony and you find out what they knew
41:56
Speaker 1: and what they told people and what they hid and
41:58
Speaker 1: And it's just it really I think people all over
42:01
Speaker 1: the world, especially United States, are traumatized from the way
42:05
Speaker 1: COVID was handled more so than the disease itself. And
42:09
Speaker 1: this is the bigger problem, right? The psychological aspect of
42:12
Speaker 1: these diseases.
42:13
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
42:14
Speaker 10: And, you know, and again, you know, we shouldn't minimize Ebola.
42:17
Speaker 10: I mean, there are a lot of confirmed infections. A
42:19
Speaker 10: lot of people have died.
42:21
Speaker 7: But I mean.
42:22
Speaker 10: We shouldn't turn an unconfirmed Russian laboratory event into a
42:27
Speaker 10: black death either. I mean, we have to be logical
42:31
Speaker 10: of what we're doing.
42:32
Speaker 1: So bottom line is people don't need to panic. They
42:36
Speaker 1: can go on their lives as usual. Let me ask
42:38
Speaker 1: you something. And this is something that people say. I
42:40
Speaker 1: still see people wearing masks. And I don't know if
42:43
Speaker 1: it's a fashion symbol at this point or if it does.
42:47
Speaker 1: How effective are these masks that people keep walking around?
42:50
Speaker 1: Whether or not they're afraid of a disease, whether they
42:52
Speaker 1: want to hide their identity. We should be beyond this
42:54
Speaker 1: at this point, right?
42:56
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I will tell you, we did a
42:57
Speaker 10: really cool study in which I sent my medical students
43:00
Speaker 10: to a mall. just to see how well masks were fitted.
43:03
Speaker 10: So regardless whether they work or they don't work in general,
43:07
Speaker 10: people don't know how to use them. So by definition,
43:10
Speaker 10: they don't work. Most of them, you know, you see
43:13
Speaker 10: people that have the nose outside the mask, they use
43:15
Speaker 10: them like as a chin lift.
43:17
Speaker 7: It's terrible.
43:18
Speaker 10: So no, masks, you know, they do have some role
43:21
Speaker 10: in some illnesses. But wearing them around, or you wearing
43:26
Speaker 10: them when you are inside your own car with the
43:29
Speaker 10: windows up, no, you should not be doing those things.
43:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor, hopefully people hear that message. I mean, our
43:36
Speaker 1: audience knows better, but hopefully this gets out to the
43:38
Speaker 1: other audiences who are still, like you said, jogging with
43:41
Speaker 1: masks on or in their cars with the windows up.
43:43
Speaker 1: I still see it. I still see it. It's crazy
43:45
Speaker 1: to me.
43:46
Speaker 5: Dr.
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Speaker 1: Varun, thank you so much for being here and give
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Speaker 1: us your take on this. Everybody can relax now and
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Speaker 1: return the toilet paper.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: Take care. Coming up next, 18 cents in one week.
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Speaker 1: Why your diesel bill is finally moving in the right direction.
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Speaker 1: And the $ 60 a fill President Trump just took off
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Speaker 1: the bill for truckers and farmers in 11 states. That's right.
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Speaker 1: Trump is making diesel prices cheaper. Stick around.
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Speaker 1: Gas prices, diesel prices, fuel prices, Iran. It's all anybody's
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Speaker 1: talking about heading into the midterms. But don't you notice
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Speaker 1: that all of the critics go silent when prices come down?
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Speaker 1: Diesel fell 18 cents in one week, 638 to 619.
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Speaker 1: Now that's the government's number. The first week it's gone
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Speaker 1: in the right direction since it crossed 650 for the
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Speaker 1: first time in American history last month. And it's all
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Speaker 1: thanks to Trump. You blame him when it's up. You
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Speaker 1: don't give him credit when it comes down, right? Monday
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Speaker 1: night in Grand Isle, Nebraska, the president signed an executive
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Speaker 1: order on red-dyed diesel. Now, if you don't know, that
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Speaker 1: is the farm fuel, the same diesel that runs, combines
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Speaker 1: and backhoes and kept off public roads because it doesn't
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Speaker 1: carry that federal highway tax. The order puts it on
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Speaker 1: the highway and defers the federal excise tax through December 31st.
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Speaker 1: No interest, no penalties. The federal tax is $ 0. 244 a
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Speaker 1: gallon on it, $ 60 on a 250-gallon fill, and more
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Speaker 1: than $ 100 where the state tax comes off, too. Now,
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Speaker 1: Treasury has been told to find a way to erase
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Speaker 1: the deferred tax entirely. States are following the president's lead.
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Speaker 1: Iowa suspended its penalties for running red diesel on the
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Speaker 1: road for anyone hauling crops or fertilizer the day after signing,
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Speaker 1: expanded it to livestock and feed today, and it runs
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Speaker 1: it through February. Eleven states had already done something similar.
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Speaker 1: That's the relief at the pump. It's all thanks to
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Speaker 1: Trump's leadership. Now, there's a bigger move happening overseas as
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Speaker 1: well that's also helping with prices. Thursday night, the president
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Speaker 1: was on the phone with Emmanuel Macron after threatening to
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Speaker 1: shut off American diesel exports to Europe. Friday morning, the
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Speaker 1: G7 agreed to release 100 million barrels of diesel and
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Speaker 1: crude from their reserves over the four months, front-loaded with
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Speaker 1: a substantial diesel release within the first 20 days. The
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Speaker 1: problem this year was never how much oil was on
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Speaker 1: the ground. It had nothing to do with the straight
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Speaker 1: over moves with respect to at least diesel. It's how
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Speaker 1: much diesel we can refine and deliver. And with the
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Speaker 1: war in Ukraine, in Russia, and refiners being hit, it
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Speaker 1: really took a chunk out of our refining capacity. Combine
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Speaker 1: that with Democrat policies keeping us from refining diesel here
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Speaker 1: at home, and it all combined to the perfect storm
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Speaker 1: of high diesel prices. Now, more refined fuel in the
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Speaker 1: market means more supply, less panic and a lower number
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Speaker 1: on that sign. Two fronts cut the cost of the
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Speaker 1: pump today, flood the market tomorrow, won't fix everything. Federal
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Speaker 1: taxes deferred, not dead yet. Every state has to cooperate.
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Speaker 1: And the trucking lobby is already saying died diesel comes
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Speaker 1: from the same supply. And this country needs more refining
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Speaker 1: capacity of its own. So, look, a war on the
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Speaker 1: other side of the world. IT NEVER AGAIN SETS THE
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Speaker 1: PRICE OF GAS IN NEBRASKA. LET'S REFINE, REFINE, REFINE. AND
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Speaker 1: PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GOING TO DO IT. THIS WEEK THE
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Speaker 1: PRESIDENT OPENED THE SUPPLY, CUT THE TAX, AND PUT THE
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Speaker 1: MONEY BACK IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE who move
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Speaker 1: everything you own. Now, my next guest farms vegetables and
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Speaker 1: sugar cane outside Belle Glade, Florida, so he understands the
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Speaker 1: relationship between fuel prices and the ability of farmers to
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Speaker 1: make a profit, which is getting harder and harder these days.
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Speaker 1: He served eight years in the Florida House, and now
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Speaker 1: he's running for the Florida State Senate. Rick Roth, welcome
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Speaker 1: to the Apollo Prime Time. The president's making big moves
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Speaker 1: on diesel. Is this going to make it easier for
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Speaker 1: farmers to do what they do best?
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Speaker 8: Thank you, David, for this opportunity. We love the fact
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Speaker 8: that the president of the United States is worried about farmers.
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Speaker 8: My biggest cost is energy. We buy during the season.
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Speaker 8: We're not there yet, but starting mid-November through May, we
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Speaker 8: use 8,000 gallons of fuel a week, and 25% of
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Speaker 8: that is on road. So that's going to cut our
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Speaker 8: fuel costs down. you know, significantly, at least 25%.
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Speaker 1: Now, look, you're running for Florida Senate. You've served in
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Speaker 1: the Florida House. What's Florida doing to help take the
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Speaker 1: burden off the farmers?
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Speaker 8: Florida has a very strong pro-business, pro-agricultural policy. We've done
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Speaker 8: a lot over the years to make sure that we
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Speaker 8: have adequate water supply, that we have lower regulations, that
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Speaker 8: we really are supporting our agriculture. Truth of the matter
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Speaker 8: be known, Florida's agriculture is going up, ascending, as California
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Speaker 8: agriculture is going down. My business is doing a lot
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Speaker 8: better because I grow lettuce and romaine and we compete
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Speaker 8: directly with California because California is having water problems and
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Speaker 8: they're having tax problems. They overtax their farmers. We are
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Speaker 8: trying to lower our taxes. We actually have Amendment 2
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Speaker 8: on the ballot right now in Florida to lower taxes
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Speaker 8: for farmers. So vote yes on Amendment 2.
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Speaker 1: AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS SO IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR.
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Speaker 1: YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEADING INTO THE ALL-IMPORTANT MIDTERMS. YOU KNOW,
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Speaker 1: PEOPLE ARE POINTING AT THE SIGN AT THE GAS STATION.
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Speaker 1: WE NEED LOWER PRICES. AND THEY'RE SUGGESTING THAT IF WE
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Speaker 1: ELECT DEMOCRATS, SOMEHOW THAT'S GOING TO MAGICALLY MAKE PRICES LOWER.
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Speaker 1: BUT AS YOU JUST LAID OUT, DEMOCRAT-RUN STATES LIKE CALIFORNIA,
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Speaker 1: THEIR FARMERS ARE TAKING A BEATING BECAUSE OF DEMOCRAT POLICIES.
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Speaker 1: ELECTING DEMOCRATS ISN'T GOING TO MAKE PRICES GO DOWN. AND
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Speaker 1: PRESIDENT TRUMP JUST PROVED THIS WEEK THAT HE HAS PLANS
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Speaker 1: AND HE'S PUTTING IN PLACE CONSERVATIVE POL INCREASE SUPPLY. THAT
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Speaker 1: WILL ACTUALLY MAKE IT EASIER FOR FARMERS AND THAT SHOULD
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Speaker 1: BE THE MODEL WE ROLL OUT NATIONALLY, NOT CHANGE WHO
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Speaker 1: IS IN POWER BUT SUPPORT WHO IS IN POWER, RIGHT?
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Speaker 7: THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THINK OF IT THIS WAY.
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Speaker 8: IT WAS THE DEMOCRATS THAT INFLATED THE FEDERAL BUDGETS, GAVE
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Speaker 8: AWAY ALL THAT MONEY DURING A SUPPLY CHAIN SHORTAGE AND
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Speaker 8: IT CREATED BIG INFLATION, 10% INFLATION. SO THE JOKE IS
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Speaker 8: WHY DO YOU WANT to put out the fire. Trump
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Speaker 8: is going in the right direction. Agriculture is part of
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Speaker 8: the solution. The way you hold prices for food or
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Speaker 8: decrease prices is overproduce. The way you lower the price
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Speaker 8: of fuel is you overproduce. Trump is doing everything he can,
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Speaker 8: Venezuelan oil, more oil produced in the United States, We
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Speaker 8: just need more refineries, but we're going in the right direction.
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Speaker 7: We really are.
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Speaker 1: And look, you're running for state or state Senate. You
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Speaker 1: bid in the state house. You understand how important agriculture
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Speaker 1: is to Florida. Talk about your campaign real quick and
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Speaker 1: what you're going to offer to your constituents down there.
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Speaker 7: Well, the funny part is I live in Palm Beach County.
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Speaker 8: I lived there all my life. I've been farming for
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Speaker 8: 50 years. I've been living in my district right here
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Speaker 8: for 48 years. And the bottom line is we need
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Speaker 8: to manage the growth. Florida is a big growth state
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Speaker 8: today because of bad policy of other states. We need
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Speaker 8: to manage our growth better by building roads and infrastructure as.
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Speaker 7: We build homes.
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Speaker 8: We also need to protect our natural resources, our water,
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Speaker 8: and we also need to protect our green space and
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Speaker 8: our agriculture. The people in my district love agriculture. They
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Speaker 8: love locally grown food. They know that Palm Beach County
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Speaker 8: is the big dog east of California in agricultural production.
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Speaker 8: And then the third thing we need to do is
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Speaker 8: we need to subsidize.
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Speaker 7: Affordable housing, workforce housing.
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Speaker 8: We need to create more infrastructure where building is going on.
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Speaker 7: We need to do septic to sewer.
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Speaker 8: We need to subsidize cleaning up our water supply by
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Speaker 8: going from septic to sewer. So there's a lot of
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Speaker 8: great things that are just what a common-sense farmer would do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, you know about feeding Floridians. You've done
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Speaker 1: it for years, and we love our farmers. And so
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Speaker 1: I look forward to learning more about your campaign. I
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Speaker 1: encourage everyone else to check it out. And, look, good luck.
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Speaker 1: Big election coming up, and we'll see what happens. We'll
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Speaker 1: check in with you soon, my friend.
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Speaker 7: Remember, rickroth4senate. com. Check me out, rickroth4senate. com.
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Speaker 1: All right, good luck to you, my friend. Well, that's
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Speaker 1: our show for tonight. Be sure to join us tomorrow
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Speaker 1: as we take a closer look at the surging popularity
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Speaker 1: of Trump rallies with the famous brick suit wall guy. Plus,
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Speaker 1: Chrissy Newton is back with a story about, you're not
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Speaker 1: You're not going to want to miss that one. And
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