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- 0:06Speaker 1: Joe and Airey and Art de Caesar, we got actionable information.
- 0:10Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. On today's show, we're gonna tell you what's
- 0:14Speaker 1: going on over at the Westgates Sportsbook where all the
- 0:17Speaker 1: bets are Chargers line moving, Green Bay line moving, many
- 0:23Speaker 1: lines moving. We're gonna find out why. We're gonna give you, guys,
- 0:26Speaker 1: the parlay of the day. I lost the parlay of
- 0:29Speaker 1: the day for the team yesterday, fade or not. There
- 0:33Speaker 1: are six zero to three teams in the NFL. Do
- 0:36Speaker 1: we bet on them? Do we bet against them? Joe
- 0:40Speaker 1: and I will give you an NFL best bet and
- 0:42Speaker 1: a college football best bet, the MLB Rundown or the
- 0:45Speaker 1: Jay's Gonna screw it Up? And of course our mail
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- 1:10Speaker 1: Yes, I should we check out Joe's tender profile?
- 1:15Speaker 2: Please do? Yeah, please do? What is this twenty fourteen?
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- 1:20Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry, your grinder profile? So how are you picking
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- 1:36Speaker 1: So fair enough, okay, But any ladies out there, Joveniary
- 1:42Speaker 1: is single? Uh and he does stand at a supermarket like.
- 1:46Speaker 2: This and just wait, so that is true? None of it?
- 1:50Speaker 1: Okay?
- 1:51Speaker 2: Art?
- 1:51Speaker 1: What's going on over at the Westgate bro?
- 1:54Speaker 3: Not much? Man? This is you know, we start, not
- 1:57Speaker 3: that we don't see stuff earlier than we we do,
- 1:58Speaker 3: but we start to really define in some of these games.
- 2:01Speaker 3: You know, you look at a couple of these NFL games.
- 2:04Speaker 3: I think it's a bad game because it's you know,
- 2:06Speaker 3: two zero to three teams. But Titans Texans, where the
- 2:10Speaker 3: Texans have pretty much been seven, haven't moved off that
- 2:13Speaker 3: despite the Texans being ozer and three and not being
- 2:16Speaker 3: a good team. Right now, we'll need the Titans in
- 2:18Speaker 3: the game. They're gonna bet the Texans, They're gonna put
- 2:21Speaker 3: them in Parlays money line. They're gonna put them in teasers,
- 2:24Speaker 3: so we'll be fighting that Texan money basically all week.
- 2:28Speaker 3: The local game that's seen a little bit of a
- 2:31Speaker 3: downgrade with the Raiders. That was a look ahead line
- 2:35Speaker 3: of Raiders minus two and a half. Now it's minus one.
- 2:38Speaker 3: I think you got a little bit of a bump
- 2:40Speaker 3: from what the Bears did last week. So there's some
- 2:43Speaker 3: love there where they're saying, Okay, maybe the Bears have
- 2:47Speaker 3: kind of figured it out. Caleb look great. Probably more
- 2:49Speaker 3: about what the Cowboys are. And then obviously one of
- 2:52Speaker 3: the big games of the week Ravens Chiefs that basically
- 2:56Speaker 3: was a look ahead line of three. We reopened it
- 2:58Speaker 3: two and a half, got back up to three on it.
- 3:01Speaker 3: Ravens are minus three. That's probably where the line should be.
- 3:05Speaker 3: I'll be shocked if we get to three and a half.
- 3:07Speaker 3: We'll probably be at three and kind of play with
- 3:10Speaker 3: the juice on either side. But obviously the initial money
- 3:13Speaker 3: on that two and a half came in for Baltimore.
- 3:16Speaker 2: And what else are you It's kind of funny early week.
- 3:20Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, we've got a Thursday night game which doesn't
- 3:24Speaker 2: seem to be moving an awful lot here, although in
- 3:27Speaker 2: a lot of spots to look like Arizona might have
- 3:29Speaker 2: been the slight favorite. Then maybe we thought Seattle would
- 3:33Speaker 2: go the other way. But are you seeing quality two
- 3:36Speaker 2: way action on that game? Both ways?
- 3:39Speaker 3: That has seemed pretty good two way action. I mean, obviously,
- 3:42Speaker 3: when we talk about our Thursday game like we always
- 3:44Speaker 3: do tomorrow, there will probably be more of a one
- 3:48Speaker 3: side like hey, we're gonna need this side or that,
- 3:51Speaker 3: or maybe a group comes in the morning and moves it.
- 3:53Speaker 3: But right now it's been pretty steady on the two
- 3:56Speaker 3: way all right.
- 3:57Speaker 1: The season joining us, I want to stay with NFL
- 3:59Speaker 1: for a quick one of our listeners and we're going
- 4:01Speaker 1: to get to some college football info shortly. One of
- 4:05Speaker 1: our listeners wants to know. Let's have a Survivor discussion,
- 4:09Speaker 1: they said, and I'd like to know just really quickly,
- 4:13Speaker 1: your thoughts on Survivor going into this week. Just assume
- 4:17Speaker 1: you have all teams available. Is only three weeks. And
- 4:21Speaker 1: my wife took Buffalo and said, okay, I just want
- 4:24Speaker 1: to get to the next week.
- 4:26Speaker 2: I was originally.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Thinking, Houston, get it over withhold your nose and hope
- 4:30Speaker 1: the two of you guys are saying, what are you
- 4:33Speaker 1: mad Art. I'll go to you first. What jumps out
- 4:38Speaker 1: at you, Survivor wise.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Well, I think you've said it all season, right, pres
- 4:44Speaker 3: go against the Saints. You'll be fine. I think we
- 4:46Speaker 3: all know Buffalo being a seventeen point favorite, that is
- 4:48Speaker 3: going to be the number one team if you have
- 4:50Speaker 3: not already used them. A lot of people did use
- 4:52Speaker 3: them last week against Miami. I think if you have
- 4:55Speaker 3: multiple selections, I think Houston's in play. I think unless
- 4:59Speaker 3: you use green Bay last week and now you're out,
- 5:02Speaker 3: maybe use green Bay this week. They'll be popular. It's
- 5:05Speaker 3: a tricky spot. I know you and I don't like
- 5:07Speaker 3: the spot for them, but you know people are gonna
- 5:09Speaker 3: use the Chargers. They like to find the teams that
- 5:11Speaker 3: are basically touchdown and more favorites. Those are going to
- 5:14Speaker 3: be the popular teams. Now, if you have Survivor, you
- 5:17Speaker 3: know you got five to ten survivors. You could spread
- 5:19Speaker 3: it around and take some shots, but I think those
- 5:22Speaker 3: are basically going to be your group of teams.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Joe, if you haven't used Buffalo yet, use them. I
- 5:30Speaker 2: mean to me, it's it's survive and move on. At
- 5:32Speaker 2: this early in the season, you do not want to
- 5:34Speaker 2: be taking stupid chances at this point in week four
- 5:38Speaker 2: the NFL season because you're worried about what's coming up.
- 5:42Speaker 2: I mean, Buffalo schedule for the next until November is
- 5:45Speaker 2: kind of piece of cake. And I know a lot
- 5:47Speaker 2: of guys aren't used Buffalo. I think last week against
- 5:51Speaker 2: Miami on that the early game. So if you haven't,
- 5:56Speaker 2: now seems like a pretty decent time to consider Buffalo
- 5:59Speaker 2: here and just advance. And because once we get to October,
- 6:03Speaker 2: these teams are not the same that you are witnessing
- 6:06Speaker 2: right now in September.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's an interesting theory, Joe, because you know,
- 6:11Speaker 1: do you keep teams you try to sneak the Houston's
- 6:14Speaker 1: through now and hold the big boys for later, or
- 6:17Speaker 1: do you or do you use you know, or do
- 6:20Speaker 1: you just try to get through week to week and
- 6:22Speaker 1: recognize that hey, later Josh Allen might be injured. Later,
- 6:27Speaker 1: you know, Baltimore might be out of the playoffs, and
- 6:31Speaker 1: you know, feeling down on themselves. So it's an interesting
- 6:34Speaker 1: Survivor question, and it's really why I suggest to all
- 6:38Speaker 1: people playing Survivor to play two teams. One of those
- 6:41Speaker 1: teams survive, the other team try to play that sort
- 6:46Speaker 1: of long game. I'll likely I'm gonna tell you guys
- 6:50Speaker 1: tomorrow what my survivor pick will be. I definitely will
- 6:54Speaker 1: be using Houston in one of my picks, but I'll
- 6:59Speaker 1: figure it out. I'll let you guys know tomorrow. Hit
- 7:02Speaker 1: that like button. Everyone subscribe to our channel, make sure
- 7:05Speaker 1: to comment. Commenting is important. The word of the day
- 7:10Speaker 1: is Mike raffo Art, what's going on in college football?
- 7:17Speaker 3: Well, college we have a huge week with huge games.
- 7:19Speaker 3: We'll touch on all three of them right here. I mean,
- 7:22Speaker 3: probably the best game of the day Oregon at Penn
- 7:25Speaker 3: State that and a look aheadline was Penn State six.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Over the summer, we reopened it three and a half.
- 7:32Speaker 3: We've seen Oregon money at three and a half. We're
- 7:34Speaker 3: now three. The Bama Georgia game that over the summer
- 7:38Speaker 3: was Georgia four. We reopened it three and it's been
- 7:42Speaker 3: pretty steady with us on three. Seen really nice two
- 7:46Speaker 3: way action on that game. Now both those games are
- 7:49Speaker 3: going to see tremendous handle and a little bit under
- 7:52Speaker 3: the radar game Auburn at A and M that over
- 7:55Speaker 3: the summer was seven, and now we reopened it six
- 7:59Speaker 3: and a half for a and m to be almost
- 8:03Speaker 3: a touchdown favorite at home. So no real movement there yet.
- 8:07Speaker 3: But I would say out of the three games, the
- 8:09Speaker 3: team that has seen the most money is Oregon. Moved
- 8:12Speaker 3: us off that three and a half. We kind of
- 8:14Speaker 3: wanted to see sometimes when we are at of three
- 8:16Speaker 3: three and a half, we don't mind taking a couple
- 8:19Speaker 3: of bets see if someone we respect or a group
- 8:22Speaker 3: we respect wants to take a position on a game.
- 8:25Speaker 3: Because sometimes when you're at three, you just get the
- 8:28Speaker 3: two way action and you're just booking the game. We
- 8:30Speaker 3: kind of wanted to see, hey, what's the kind of
- 8:33Speaker 3: perception out there on this game? And at the three
- 8:36Speaker 3: and a half, the money was Oregon.
- 8:38Speaker 2: We've had a couple of interesting line moves so far.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Art you mentioned yesterday on the show. One of the
- 8:44Speaker 2: big movers, of course was that LSU Old Miss game.
- 8:48Speaker 2: I mean, when you're going back now you're talking about
- 8:51Speaker 2: this game, was LSU was considered a bigger favorite. They
- 8:54Speaker 2: opened up a slight favorite, and we've seen nothing but
- 8:56Speaker 2: Old Miss money coming in and now Old Miss is
- 8:59Speaker 2: the thing. We saw a lot of Virginia money come
- 9:03Speaker 2: in also against Florida State, which I think is ironic.
- 9:06Speaker 2: I'm wondering where are the head fakes here? Are we
- 9:09Speaker 2: expecting Old Miss and LSU maybe to reverse? Are we
- 9:13Speaker 2: expecting everyone look bet Virginia now because we're gonna try
- 9:17Speaker 2: to get under a touchdown and go Florida State closer
- 9:20Speaker 2: to the game. What are you seeing right now with
- 9:23Speaker 2: this week?
- 9:25Speaker 3: You know, Joe, that LSU Old Miss game is interesting
- 9:27Speaker 3: because when you're basically at one one and a half two,
- 9:31Speaker 3: that could easily by kickoff flip back to LSU being
- 9:34Speaker 3: minus one. I don't see you know that not happening.
- 9:38Speaker 3: That could absolutely have because even when we were at
- 9:40Speaker 3: Old Miss minus one minus one and a half, they
- 9:43Speaker 3: were taking LSU at plus one oh five even money
- 9:46Speaker 3: on the money line, so they were looking at that angle.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Now.
- 9:49Speaker 3: The Florida State Virginia game is interesting because it's a
- 9:52Speaker 3: Thursday game, so it's a short week game, home team,
- 9:55Speaker 3: all that type of stuff. And they took Virginia over
- 9:57Speaker 3: a touchdown. They took him at eight, they took them
- 9:59Speaker 3: at seve onn and a half, we're at seven. I'm
- 10:02Speaker 3: with you, I think that could be one of those
- 10:04Speaker 3: pump fakes where they're trying to get the nooles under
- 10:07Speaker 3: seven and then they will come in and steam roll
- 10:10Speaker 3: that back up to a kickoff number, back to the
- 10:13Speaker 3: original number seven and a half.
- 10:15Speaker 1: E ah, this information from you, artist Gold. Thanks for
- 10:19Speaker 1: doing this, guys. Let's turn our attention too well. The
- 10:23Speaker 1: par lay of the day, yesterday's parlay lost. Dude to
- 10:27Speaker 1: this guy right here, it does happen. I had to
- 10:30Speaker 1: hear about it all night last night. Yeah, so that's
- 10:35Speaker 1: where we're at. I lost yesterday's parlay. We move on.
- 10:38Speaker 1: I'm going to go whenever in doubt, whenever you need
- 10:43Speaker 1: a win, you gotta go back to the teams you
- 10:46Speaker 1: know best. Max Chers are on the mound, the Blue
- 10:49Speaker 1: Jays plus one to eleven. This team has got mojo going.
- 10:54Speaker 1: I know that they are. They screwed it up last night,
- 10:57Speaker 1: but I'm telling you the vibe coming out of the
- 11:00Speaker 1: dressing room, everybody is ready to go, and it was
- 11:02Speaker 1: really the damn ups that stupid foul bawl call mock
- 11:07Speaker 1: the whole game up. Let's move on. Leg one Toronto
- 11:12Speaker 1: plus one eleven Joe.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Ooh is impressive and we're gonna see whether or not
- 11:18Speaker 2: that actually comes to fruition. Here, I'm gonna go another way.
- 11:23Speaker 2: I think it's put up a shut up time for
- 11:26Speaker 2: Houston against the Athletics. Art. Now, the Athletics last night,
- 11:31Speaker 2: Houston sends Hunter Brown to the mound tonight to go
- 11:34Speaker 2: up against Severino, and Severino is the worst at that
- 11:38Speaker 2: Sacramento ballpark. So I'll take a shot with Houston getting
- 11:42Speaker 2: it done here tonight with their ace on a mound
- 11:44Speaker 2: at a pretty decent prize. Art.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that one, Joe, That's one I definitely
- 11:49Speaker 3: thought about. And you're right, this feels like the game
- 11:52Speaker 3: of the year for Houston. They lose this, they will
- 11:54Speaker 3: be done. I'm gonna go with my theme. I know
- 11:56Speaker 3: they're still fighting and they're playing, but I thought they
- 12:00Speaker 3: have lost last night. They celebrated a little last night.
- 12:03Speaker 3: I know the division is still in play, but I'm
- 12:05Speaker 3: gonna take the White Sox plus one and a half.
- 12:08Speaker 3: I think they could win the game or keep it
- 12:10Speaker 3: to a one run game like they did last night.
- 12:14Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you flat out, Art, I'm prepared to
- 12:16Speaker 1: lose this parlay for the Chicago White Sox to win tonight.
- 12:21Speaker 1: So my priority right now is for Chicago to win.
- 12:26Speaker 1: I am a Blue Jay fan, and the city is
- 12:29Speaker 1: electric when one of our sports teams is in the
- 12:33Speaker 1: hunt doesn't happen often. I'm really hoping it does now.
- 12:36Speaker 1: And I'm going to the game on Saturday. Okay, Joe
- 12:40Speaker 1: and his moaning this, let's get into a fade or not. Guys,
- 12:46Speaker 1: yesterday we gave you all the three and OH teams
- 12:51Speaker 1: and whether we should bet on or against those three
- 12:55Speaker 1: and OH teams. I want to show you guys something
- 12:58Speaker 1: before we get into the and this is created by
- 13:01Speaker 1: Ralph Michaels and Ralph Michaels will be on wager Talk
- 13:05Speaker 1: today another showover on the wager Talk TV network, and
- 13:09Speaker 1: we'll be doing a deep dive. As you can see,
- 13:12Speaker 1: three and O teams in their fourth game are twenty
- 13:18Speaker 1: and twenty three against the spread, so betting three and
- 13:23Speaker 1: O teams in their fourth game is a losing proposition. However,
- 13:30Speaker 1: I'd like to turn your attention to row two, column
- 13:34Speaker 1: one two, three or I six seven, eight, twenty seven,
- 13:39Speaker 1: fifteen and three. This is a chart from twenty and fifteen.
- 13:44Speaker 1: If you bet against, if you bet against, if you
- 13:49Speaker 1: bet on oh and three teams, so you're betting on
- 13:52Speaker 1: OH to three teams, you are sixty four point three
- 13:56Speaker 1: percent against the spread twenty seven, fifteen and three. So
- 14:01Speaker 1: with that said, Art, Joe would that is? Does that
- 14:06Speaker 1: shock you that three and ohero teams are twenty and
- 14:08Speaker 1: twenty three against the spread and OH and three twenty
- 14:11Speaker 1: seven and fifteen? I would It doesn't shock me. It
- 14:13Speaker 1: seems totally reasonable, Joe Art.
- 14:17Speaker 2: So as a Jet fan, do I root for the
- 14:21Speaker 2: tie against the against the Dolphins? How in the hell
- 14:25Speaker 2: they put that game on Monday night is beyond me? Art.
- 14:28Speaker 2: How can't we fletch out even in week four and
- 14:31Speaker 2: get those two bands of crap off the television screen?
- 14:35Speaker 2: But I don't know what to do with those two
- 14:37Speaker 2: on and three teams, But somebody has got to win
- 14:39Speaker 2: that game, I guess. But the idea that a desperate
- 14:43Speaker 2: and yes prays. I don't think it's zero percent chance
- 14:47Speaker 2: being oh and three of making the playoffs, although it's
- 14:50Speaker 2: very slim to none. But I can guarantee you oh
- 14:53Speaker 2: and four you ain't ever making the playoffs again. So
- 14:56Speaker 2: it doesn't shock me that oh and three teams do
- 14:58Speaker 2: well against the spread because the market heart has probably
- 15:02Speaker 2: stuck to forking them at this point. Ain't nobody looking
- 15:04Speaker 2: to bet them, just fade them anyway.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and especially if it's an O and three team.
- 15:09Speaker 3: Maybe you had good feelings about in the you know, preseason,
- 15:13Speaker 3: and you thought, oh, this team might be all right.
- 15:15Speaker 3: Now you're probably getting value on that team. And even
- 15:18Speaker 3: president you said the three and oh teams, Well, those
- 15:20Speaker 3: three and oh teams have probably been overvalued. Even if
- 15:23Speaker 3: they're really good. Their numbers have been pushed up and
- 15:26Speaker 3: they're fat and happy and they're three and oh. Maybe
- 15:29Speaker 3: they're playing a bad team, and the league is it's
- 15:31Speaker 3: just parody the league, right, I mean, they want all
- 15:33Speaker 3: these teams to basically be ten and seven, nine and eight.
- 15:36Speaker 3: That's what they want. So it doesn't shock me that
- 15:39Speaker 3: those numbers are what they are.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Just to give you guys some statistics, it's two point
- 15:45Speaker 1: eight percent that you flop a flush in Texas, hold them.
- 15:50Speaker 1: It's two point five percent that an zero to three
- 15:53Speaker 1: team makes the playoffs. New Orleans Saints aren't bet against.
- 15:58Speaker 1: With that said, the line's not going to help us
- 16:02Speaker 1: bet against this team, and it doesn't. This Sunday, I
- 16:08Speaker 1: feel like New Orleans could lose every game this year,
- 16:12Speaker 1: and I'm curious how many of those games are.
- 16:15Speaker 2: Going to cover.
- 16:16Speaker 1: But I mean, I am not betting on them no
- 16:18Speaker 1: matter what Joe.
- 16:21Speaker 2: The Saints, yeah god, no, oh no, they are absolutely
- 16:26Speaker 2: a fade. And listen, I think there might be there
- 16:30Speaker 2: might be a benefit it somewhere along the line for
- 16:32Speaker 2: the Saints to continue to suck. Not that I think
- 16:36Speaker 2: they have much of a choice, but why fight it? Right? Like,
- 16:40Speaker 2: you know, recognize that you are terrible, purposeful in order
- 16:44Speaker 2: to restart defranchise. So I don't know why you go
- 16:47Speaker 2: against that art and hope that things get better because
- 16:49Speaker 2: they won't.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Yeah, Art, You know this is a motto that Joe
- 16:53Speaker 1: uses when picking up women. It's like, if you suck,
- 16:57Speaker 1: lean in, Okay, Art, going go on? Now?
- 17:01Speaker 3: The Saints have been a faid all year. I think
- 17:03Speaker 3: we all recognize how bad they are. I think if
- 17:07Speaker 3: you're gonna start betting in seats, you might have to
- 17:08Speaker 3: look for another angles. Maybe first quarters, first halfs do
- 17:13Speaker 3: a lot of player props for the other team, like this,
- 17:17Speaker 3: sprends might be so ridiculous you might not even have
- 17:20Speaker 3: any value there. You might have to just find different angles.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Or just look for threesomes. That's what you do with
- 17:26Speaker 2: the you know, the homely teams. You just, Joe, I'm
- 17:32Speaker 2: just saying you look for a third team, But I
- 17:34Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about. I'm just saying threesomes
- 17:37Speaker 2: is the way i'd look.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Especially with teams that suck. Correct Now that, now that
- 17:44Speaker 1: I have packaged our metaphors, let's move on to the Tennessee.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Look, I don't know if this is a.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Fade team, Joe. Moving forward, you know, I think we're
- 17:58Speaker 1: going to find some opportunities to be on this team.
- 18:00Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised if they cover seven this
- 18:03Speaker 1: week against Houston. So I'm not vating this team. I
- 18:08Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some moments where we could bet
- 18:10Speaker 1: on them. What do you think?
- 18:11Speaker 2: I agree? I listen, the whole purpose of the Tennessee
- 18:15Speaker 2: coaching staff this year is to bring along cam Ward,
- 18:19Speaker 2: their future franchise quarterback. They have dealt with some injuries
- 18:23Speaker 2: now on the defensive side of the ball, especially on
- 18:26Speaker 2: that defensive front, But I think when healthy and you're right,
- 18:29Speaker 2: pick your spots. This isn't a team that's gonna go
- 18:32Speaker 2: winless all year. They will have an opportunity to win
- 18:36Speaker 2: some games, but they will never unless I'm missing something on.
- 18:41Speaker 2: They're never going to be a favorite that you got
- 18:43Speaker 2: to go, Oh, no, I can't. I mean they're going
- 18:46Speaker 2: to be a dog a lot, and there's gonna be
- 18:48Speaker 2: some value at some point along the way here.
- 18:50Speaker 3: No, yeah, and I think you hit it. The whole
- 18:52Speaker 3: season is about we are going to bring along our
- 18:55Speaker 3: franchise quarterback. Unless he's injureds he's going to play every game.
- 18:59Speaker 3: I'm sure he's gonna want to play and get better
- 19:01Speaker 3: every week. I think there will be opportunities to take
- 19:06Speaker 3: the Titans, especially in games like this, like you said present,
- 19:09Speaker 3: where you're getting seven or you're getting over a field goal,
- 19:12Speaker 3: you're getting some of the numbers. I think they're gonna
- 19:14Speaker 3: be good spots.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Art, what were the odds that two people in the
- 19:21Speaker 1: same division would wear capri pens on the sidelines.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Off the board?
- 19:29Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn and the New York Jets. I kick, I
- 19:34Speaker 1: don't even I mean, honestly don't even know. Fade not fade.
- 19:38Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking to bet against this team, but
- 19:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna tread carefully. Joe.
- 19:44Speaker 2: No, you know, the ironic part about this Jets team
- 19:48Speaker 2: is that they could be two and one right now. Easily.
- 19:51Speaker 2: They could easily be and we'd be having a totally
- 19:53Speaker 2: different conversation contentually about what this Jet team is. So
- 19:58Speaker 2: it was always going to be a work in prog
- 20:00Speaker 2: The effort is there, they're just they're lacking on some
- 20:04Speaker 2: of the execution. But they have the playmakers, whether it's
- 20:07Speaker 2: Tyrod or Fields, there are gonna be opportunities to get
- 20:11Speaker 2: behind this Jets team. They will win some games they're
- 20:14Speaker 2: probably not supposed to. I think it all evens out,
- 20:18Speaker 2: so I'm not They're not a pure fade for me.
- 20:20Speaker 2: I think they're you got to look for the spots
- 20:22Speaker 2: to back them here.
- 20:23Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that too. The one thing that
- 20:26Speaker 3: worries about me with the Jets is their defense. The
- 20:29Speaker 3: defense is really not that great right now, and I
- 20:32Speaker 3: mean you guys said it. They lost on basically two
- 20:34Speaker 3: walk off field goals, so they could be two and one.
- 20:37Speaker 3: I think they'll play hard for Aaron Glenn. I don't
- 20:39Speaker 3: think the quarterback matters. I said it last week. I
- 20:41Speaker 3: think Taylor maybe is a better option than Fields, but
- 20:44Speaker 3: I don't think there's really much of a difference. They
- 20:46Speaker 3: got to fix fix that defense, especially the secondary. Secondary
- 20:50Speaker 3: is really not that great, but there probably will be
- 20:52Speaker 3: some spots down the road where the Jets maybe get
- 20:55Speaker 3: it together and play spoiler.
- 20:56Speaker 1: I feel the same way about the Giants, Arte I think,
- 20:59Speaker 1: especially with Jackson Dark coming in, I think this team
- 21:02Speaker 1: is going to play spoiler. I wouldn't be surprised if
- 21:04Speaker 1: they cover on Sunday. I think there's a chance they
- 21:07Speaker 1: win the game outright on Sunday based on what a
- 21:10Speaker 1: bad Spotless is for the Chargers, I am going to
- 21:13Speaker 1: be looking for spots to bet on the New York Giants.
- 21:17Speaker 2: Joe, I agree one hundred percent. Listen, the only reason
- 21:20Speaker 2: they're really bringing him out week three. Don't forget. The
- 21:23Speaker 2: whole plan with him was to stash him on the
- 21:27Speaker 2: bench for a year, let him learn the game, let
- 21:29Speaker 2: him get to the pro level. And that was why
- 21:32Speaker 2: you brought in Winston, It's why you brought in Ross, right,
- 21:35Speaker 2: So okay, but here we are now for three weeks
- 21:38Speaker 2: and we're throwing them to the Wolves. And the only
- 21:40Speaker 2: reason we're doing it is because obviously Dable and Joe
- 21:43Speaker 2: showing the GM their asses on the line, so they
- 21:47Speaker 2: got a hope that, yeah, maybe there's a spark here,
- 21:50Speaker 2: and I think there will be judging just from the
- 21:53Speaker 2: reaction that we watched in the preseason, from when he
- 21:57Speaker 2: was at quarterback and when they were scoring points and
- 22:00Speaker 2: touchdowns and they looked confident. You know, if these guys
- 22:04Speaker 2: rally around Dart, then Art, We're not going to get
- 22:06Speaker 2: them in a favorite role a lot. Again, we might
- 22:09Speaker 2: very well be able to get some value with.
- 22:10Speaker 3: The Giants, well, no doubt. I think we all like
- 22:13Speaker 3: their defense. Their pass rush is really good. They can
- 22:15Speaker 3: get after the quarterback. I just hope they and this
- 22:17Speaker 3: is a lifelong Giant fan talking, I hope they let
- 22:20Speaker 3: Dart loose. I hope it's not. You know, let's just
- 22:23Speaker 3: put the training wheels of a kid who cares. You're
- 22:25Speaker 3: owing three. See what you have, go out there. I
- 22:28Speaker 3: like them this week. I think it's a bad spot
- 22:29Speaker 3: for the Chargers, and I think they will rally around
- 22:32Speaker 3: the fact that Dart's gonna give them some energy. I
- 22:34Speaker 3: just worry late in the season if they're like still
- 22:36Speaker 3: two and eleven, like, are they gonna quit on Dable.
- 22:40Speaker 3: I don't know if the locker room loves Dable, so
- 22:42Speaker 3: I'd be a little worried about that.
- 22:45Speaker 1: You know, the Miami Dolphins it's basically this week or
- 22:48Speaker 1: it's sober for the whole entire coaching staff and this team.
- 22:52Speaker 1: From my perspective, and I like them this week, and
- 22:55Speaker 1: I think that if you look at their schedule moving forward,
- 22:59Speaker 1: and they can get through this week, they got the Panthers,
- 23:02Speaker 1: they got the Browns, they got the Falcons, they could
- 23:06Speaker 1: technically turn their season around. I'm looking to bet on
- 23:10Speaker 1: them this Monday, but from a moving forward perspective, I
- 23:15Speaker 1: actually need to see what they do this Monday.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Joe, they're not beating the Jets. They haven't beaten the
- 23:20Speaker 2: Jets when they've had better teams. They're not beating the
- 23:23Speaker 2: Jets this week either. And then I think it's all
- 23:25Speaker 2: she wrote. Listen, you want to talk about dead man walking.
- 23:28Speaker 2: That entire staff, that entire organization needs at the recent button,
- 23:33Speaker 2: they all know it's a matter of time before Tyreek
- 23:36Speaker 2: Hill gets traded because the more they lose, the more
- 23:40Speaker 2: he's not involved, the worst it's gonna get. That locker
- 23:42Speaker 2: room is a hot mess. It's filled with a bunch
- 23:44Speaker 2: of guys that have never played in the They have
- 23:48Speaker 2: no affiliation with the Dolphins organization outside of being here
- 23:51Speaker 2: this year. There's no leadership. It's over before she wrote,
- 23:55Speaker 2: at least culturally in the Jets side of the thing,
- 23:59Speaker 2: they're building something there. There's nothing to there's nothing redeeming
- 24:04Speaker 2: about what we're getting from the Miami Dolphins this season. Hark.
- 24:07Speaker 3: Yeah, it is fascinating from that standpoint, Joe, because it
- 24:09Speaker 3: is one regime that's new in building and one regime
- 24:13Speaker 3: that's going out the door. I kind of lean with you,
- 24:15Speaker 3: pres I do like him this week. Now Listen, if
- 24:18Speaker 3: they lost this week, I would never look at them again.
- 24:21Speaker 3: I said it. I don't think the Jets secondary is
- 24:23Speaker 3: that good right now. But the problem is to a
- 24:25Speaker 3: can't push the ball down the field, even with those receivers.
- 24:29Speaker 3: So I do like them as a you know, small
- 24:32Speaker 3: home favorite this week. But man, it's hard to back
- 24:35Speaker 3: Miami moving forward.
- 24:37Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel the same way about Houston guys.
- 24:42Speaker 2: C J.
- 24:42Speaker 1: Stroud just isn't turning out to be what we expected.
- 24:45Speaker 1: And this is not a small sample size. He struggled
- 24:48Speaker 1: most of last year as well. The team's obviously a
- 24:51Speaker 1: film on him. They've obviously figured him out, and you know,
- 24:57Speaker 1: they just lack weapons. Nico Collins great, but other than that,
- 25:01Speaker 1: I don't know where they're going. Their defense is also
- 25:04Speaker 1: not playing well. This Houston team feels like a fade
- 25:07Speaker 1: team moving forward and a fade team on Sunday.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Joe, the organization didn't do him any favors here by
- 25:16Speaker 2: making the offensive line worse, if that's even possible, than
- 25:19Speaker 2: they were a year ago. They can't run the ball.
- 25:22Speaker 2: The mix and injury to start the year again was
- 25:24Speaker 2: not great for them. But if you can't run the
- 25:27Speaker 2: ball with a job and you can't take some of
- 25:29Speaker 2: the pressure off of them, it's getting worse. And you
- 25:32Speaker 2: can tell it's not because of a athletic you know situation,
- 25:36Speaker 2: because he doesn't have the talent. It's because above the shoulders,
- 25:39Speaker 2: you're losing this kid. He's actually playing his way out
- 25:42Speaker 2: of a extension, or if that's even possible with the
- 25:46Speaker 2: way it's started off, he's actually losing money every week
- 25:50Speaker 2: here by looking like this and what is it, his
- 25:52Speaker 2: second offensive coordinator now in three seasons. So it's a
- 25:56Speaker 2: recipe for disaster for this kid. It's a fad for me.
- 25:59Speaker 2: They're two one dimensional.
- 26:00Speaker 3: Yeah, the offensive line is so bad. It just there's
- 26:04Speaker 3: no way you could lay seven with them. I don't
- 26:06Speaker 3: care that you know the Titans are owing three as well.
- 26:10Speaker 3: I don't know. The line is so bad that I
- 26:14Speaker 3: just think you have to fade them moving forward. Stroud,
- 26:18Speaker 3: he's not what he thought we thought he was. And
- 26:20Speaker 3: we do this with these quarterbacks. O Nicks. Oh great
- 26:23Speaker 3: rookie year. Now let's put him in the Hall of Fame. Well,
- 26:25Speaker 3: he's struggling. This happens with a lot of these early quarterbacks,
- 26:28Speaker 3: and I absolutely happened with Stroud.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Okay, Art ten out of ten. Brother, love having you
- 26:35Speaker 1: on the show. Spectacular work, like always have yourself a
- 26:40Speaker 1: monster day, and we're gonna see you tomorrow Thursday's show.
- 26:44Speaker 1: Art to Caesar. We're gonna take apart the Arizona Seattle game.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this, brother, Art to Caesar.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Everyone.
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- 28:12Speaker 1: And I like the Atlanta Falcons plus the one at home.
- 28:16Speaker 1: It was minus two and a half, it was minus two,
- 28:20Speaker 1: it was minus one and a half, and now Washington
- 28:23Speaker 1: is minus one. A ton of money has come in
- 28:27Speaker 1: on Atlanta, and I get it. It makes total sense
- 28:30Speaker 1: to me. Why is everyone completely overreacting? The Green Bay
- 28:36Speaker 1: Packers went to Cleveland last week and lost. Now they're
- 28:39Speaker 1: a minus seven dollar favorite on the road in Dallas.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Atlanta lost to Carolina. Now they're a home dog. I
- 28:48Speaker 1: don't understand the overreaction on this Atlanta Falcons team. Firstly,
- 28:52Speaker 1: we've got no Jaden Daniels on Washington. Secondly, this Atlanta
- 28:56Speaker 1: team is not only two and one, but they played
- 28:58Speaker 1: outstanding ball under my Michael Pennix Junior towards the end
- 29:01Speaker 1: of last season. This Atlanta team is stacked, I mean
- 29:05Speaker 1: loaded with talent offensively and defensively, they are. They sucked
- 29:10Speaker 1: against Carolina, they were great the two games prior, and
- 29:14Speaker 1: they have built that defense up. I think Atlanta has
- 29:17Speaker 1: a better defense than Washington. I think Atlanta with Jada
- 29:21Speaker 1: Daniels out, has a better offense than Washington. And I
- 29:25Speaker 1: think they're playing at home. I love this play Atlanta,
- 29:28Speaker 1: plus the one joe Ah wilds.
- 29:32Speaker 2: It's ugly, it's gross, it's disgusting. Hold your nose, but
- 29:36Speaker 2: call me crazy. I'm a believer in the Jackson Dart era,
- 29:40Speaker 2: and I believe this switch at quarterback is exactly what
- 29:43Speaker 2: the Giants need to at least be somewhat competitive offensively.
- 29:48Speaker 2: It's an early kick for the Chargers, who just played
- 29:52Speaker 2: in a big division rivalry game, which again they squeaked
- 29:56Speaker 2: it out here. It's not like they've been blowing teams
- 29:59Speaker 2: out of the and while yes, you know Herbert's been great,
- 30:03Speaker 2: gotta travel East short week. Giants have everything to play for,
- 30:08Speaker 2: nothing to lose here, and I am sure they're gonna
- 30:11Speaker 2: want to get behind their young quarterbacks, so I'll take
- 30:14Speaker 2: the points there. Press.
- 30:15Speaker 1: I am with you on that, Joe, college football best bets.
- 30:19Speaker 1: Let's go. I like Oregon or Oregon or Oregon plus
- 30:24Speaker 1: three and a half, and I like them at three
- 30:27Speaker 1: to two, Joe, and I wouldn't be surprised if they
- 30:29Speaker 1: win this game. This is a strange one. You take
- 30:32Speaker 1: a look at this Oregon Penn State game and this
- 30:34Speaker 1: is just a classic case of one team being battle
- 30:36Speaker 1: tested and ready looking like a dominant powerhouse, and another team, well,
- 30:41Speaker 1: they've played no one. Let's start with Oregon. This team
- 30:45Speaker 1: has looked like one of the best teams in the
- 30:48Speaker 1: country in their last four d games. They are dominant,
- 30:51Speaker 1: they are sharp, They have been blowing out decent teams.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Their offensive line has given up one one sack all
- 30:59Speaker 1: your their quarterback moor is playing like a Heisman candidate.
- 31:03Speaker 1: And their defense they've given they haven't given up a
- 31:07Speaker 1: single touchdown pass this season. As for Penn State, love
- 31:11Speaker 1: bottom line, the South Alas has team played nobody. Their
- 31:15Speaker 1: schedule has been embarrassingly easy, a complete cupcake tour, and
- 31:19Speaker 1: even against weak teams. Their quarterback Alar has been misfiring.
- 31:24Speaker 1: He's been looking shaky. He struggled against Fyu, he struggled
- 31:29Speaker 1: against Villanova, on and on and on and on. Joe,
- 31:32Speaker 1: I'll make the Seas take Oregon, Oregon, all right?
- 31:35Speaker 2: Like where you ahead with that one, Frez. I'm gonna
- 31:38Speaker 2: throw total out for you here, and it's gonna involve
- 31:42Speaker 2: USC traveling and take on Illinois, who just got their
- 31:46Speaker 2: ass handed to him by Indiana giving up a ton
- 31:51Speaker 2: of points here. This total opened up fifty nine and
- 31:54Speaker 2: a half. It's starting to creep off sixty sixty and
- 31:57Speaker 2: a half right now, and I think it's gonna continue
- 31:59Speaker 2: to go high. There is no way, Jordan Maavin this
- 32:02Speaker 2: offense with Lincoln Riley, if you think they're just because
- 32:06Speaker 2: they're traveling east going to Illinois, that somehow this defense
- 32:09Speaker 2: of Illinois, which just got embarrassed and shredded, is gonna
- 32:13Speaker 2: stop them. You're out of your mind. Both teams will score,
- 32:17Speaker 2: USC will score more likely, and I'm all about the
- 32:20Speaker 2: over in that one.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Press Joe and are there are not three baseball games. Breathe,
- 32:26Speaker 1: get ready, go all.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Right, Prez, let's do it to MLB Rundown. One game
- 32:32Speaker 2: already done. Probably by the time you watch this, the
- 32:34Speaker 2: Braves that we'll have beaten the Nationals, trust me. The
- 32:38Speaker 2: Brewers taking on the Prodres Dylan Cees on the mount
- 32:41Speaker 2: for the Padres, which Dylan Cees shows up for the Padres.
- 32:45Speaker 2: I have no idea, but they blanked the Brewers last night.
- 32:48Speaker 2: They won't like them again here tonight. I think the
- 32:50Speaker 2: Brewers get it done. Meanwhile, the O's and the Rays
- 32:54Speaker 2: with Wells and Boz. Boz has been a absolute dumpster fire.
- 33:00Speaker 2: Was one of the hotter teams down to stretches here.
- 33:01Speaker 2: I love Tyler Wells. I like them to win this game.
- 33:04Speaker 2: The Tigers you want to talk about dumpster fire. My goodness,
- 33:08Speaker 2: Flaherty is not saving them here against the Guardians today.
- 33:11Speaker 2: Tanner Byby on the mound, he has been electric lately.
- 33:15Speaker 2: I like the Guardians to continue to pull away the
- 33:18Speaker 2: Reds while Skeens is who they gotta be today because
- 33:21Speaker 2: they couldn't win yesterday. Hilarious. But the good news for
- 33:25Speaker 2: the Reds they have Hunter Green on the mound. If
- 33:28Speaker 2: I'm the Pirates, I let Paul Skeens go exactly two
- 33:30Speaker 2: innings and then get his ass out of the game.
- 33:33Speaker 2: The season is over. Let him rest up here. He's
- 33:36Speaker 2: got a big career ahead of him. Meanwhile, the Phillies
- 33:39Speaker 2: lost in extras to the Marlins. Ryan Weathers against Lozardo here.
- 33:44Speaker 2: I like the under in this game. I don't think
- 33:46Speaker 2: we get nearly as many runs. Oh Max freed on
- 33:48Speaker 2: the mound against the White Sox. Stop its three dollars.
- 33:52Speaker 2: Favorite stop it the Blue Jays and Red Sox. Pres
- 33:55Speaker 2: likes the Jays. I like the Red Sox. In the
- 33:58Speaker 2: first five the Twins in res Rangers refuse to win
- 34:02Speaker 2: any more games. Who blames them? I'll back the Twins.
- 34:05Speaker 2: While the Mets they should be able to get it
- 34:07Speaker 2: done once again against the Cups because it comes have
- 34:09Speaker 2: no interest in winning games anymore. The Royals will get
- 34:12Speaker 2: it done with colling them out over the Angels. The
- 34:15Speaker 2: Mariners might still be drunk from last night, but let's
- 34:18Speaker 2: face it, they're gonna beat the Rockies, Diamondbacks continuing to
- 34:21Speaker 2: roll like them. The roll again tonight against the Dodgers
- 34:25Speaker 2: and the Giants. While they just suck Ray with scratched
- 34:28Speaker 2: Cardinals will win that one, and so will the Astros. Finally, Pres,
- 34:33Speaker 2: and that is your MLB rundown.
- 34:35Speaker 1: Great stuff, Joe, Wow, a lot of games. We're gonna
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