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Beverly Hills Reunion 3, Rachel Goes Rogue Podcast, and Celebrity Wayfair · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama Darling, Drama Darling, Drama Darling. Hello everybody, Welcome back to
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Drama Darling. It's a real nice Thursday here in gorgeous California, and today
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I'll be talking Beverly Hills. We have a little news, and joining me
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to do that is Deanna Chang. Hey, Deanna, what's up? Ohmy
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god, it's an honor to be here on this special day of the last
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finale of Beverly Hills. I am excited to talk. I'm excited too,
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and I think a lot of people out there are very thrilled that it has
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come to an end. I just happened to tap into Instagram and boy,
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the fans are very upset. And then I under stand. So we will
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get into that. Yeah, hold on, I have to let my cat
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out of the room. She's now decided she's not interested in this recap.
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Clearly she is not happy with Kyle's answers. So hold on. These strange
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things happening, but we're moving forward. Okay, the cat is out of
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the room. She couldn't take it anymore. She doesn't want to hear any
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more about the answers that Kyle is giving or not giving. So that leads
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us into today, and that is we're doing Beverly Hills. So I just
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want to remind everybody thank you so much for listening to this podcast, and
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backslash Drama Darling. We covered vander Palm Rules yesterday. The Love Is Blind
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reunion will be out later today. Summer House is tomorrow, and another additional
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bonus episode is Feud, and we're going to be covering that to the last
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few episodes of Feud, So check me out over there. Now. I
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have got that fire people. She's on fire. I mean she's on fire,
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she's working, she's working. I've always got to work. I've got
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to work. You work, I work, We're working, we're working serving
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dish. Oh my gosh. Okay, first off, I have a little
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bit that I want to discuss with you about Rachel goes Oh podcast. So
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here's the thing. This is a little this is a huge left turn that
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you're gonna hear from me because a lot yeah yeah, yeah. So first
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and foremost, I have not been listening to Rachel's podcast. I just really
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haven't made it a priority. I haven't cared. That being said, I
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have listened to two episodes, and I have full on made a one eighty
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on Rachel. Wow. Yeah. So first off, I want to say
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that your bish therapist was a guest on her most recent podcast. It dropped
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this morning. I listened to that one, and then I listened to the
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previous one where she's talking about Lisa vander Pomp and the comments that Lisa's been
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making about Rachel and the lawsuit, commenting on the lawsuit about the quote unquote
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revenge porn. And I really found both episodes incredibly compelling, incredibly informative,
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and I have changed my tune on her doing a podcast in general. So
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she didn't come back to vander Pump Rules. I think we all can probably
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collectively agree that was the best decision. Yeah, in many ways. And
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then it was like, well, then why are you doing a podcast and
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speaking on vander Pump Rules. That's where I had to kind of cut and
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split because I thought, well, this can't be good for one your health,
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your mental health, and also are you thirsty? You know that you
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want to like dive into this. You're saying you want to be apart from
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it, and yet you're now talking about it. So and what I'm going
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to say to that is, I guess you just don't know until you know.
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You have to do the research. And I listened, and what I
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am realizing is that this is is the best outlet for her to have a
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voice. She was left with no voice. She lawsuits aside, and that's
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a whole separate thing, but there's a lot that she needs to speak to
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and speak about that it's only fair for her to have this platform to do
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it. And the things that she said about Tom and this recent episode were
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chilling. Oh shoot, can you give us something? Well, you know,
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I would like to say that she she created this latest podcast with the
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banner of grooming okay, based on Lalla's comments about accusing Sandoval as a groomer
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okay in this last episode, and so that being said, she wanted to
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explore the topic of grooming. Now your bish therapist went on under and was
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very vocal about saying, look, I'm not here to call Tom sand like,
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that's not what I'm doing. Okay. You can have your experience and
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you can feel however you want to feel, but I'm going to talk and
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I'm going to speak to the topic of grooming in general and tell you what
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I know about it from my perspective and my clinical interpretations of being a trained
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therapist. So she made it very clear that she wasn't there for the reason
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of which I would imagine Rachel would want her to be like, yeah,
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Tom groomed you, you know, I mean she probably not as she literally
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do that, you know. So that being said, Rachel was sharing her
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experiences with Tom and some of the things that we haven't heard, and Melissa,
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who is your bish therapist, was speaking to her understanding and her education
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about what grooming is and essentially that it can happen in adults. But that
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being said, the manipulation, the manipulation. This man did a number on
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this Gal is sick, and yeah, it really makes you, you know,
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when you hear her side of it and you think, you know she
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is doing the work she is. Obviously she's in therapy now, she went
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away to a mental health facility. She's trying to make heads or tails about
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the situation that she's in. She will. I'm sure this podcast may not
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last forever, but she's got to do what she has to do at this
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point to one make money and also have a voice. And so I fully
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support that. That doesn't mean that I don't support Ariana and her trauma with
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this situation. And Tom, I think that there's enough room and enough empathy
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to go around in this situation. And it took me by surprise, and
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I'm a little I'm actually disappointed in myself because I you know, in many
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ways, you know, we all villainized both Tom and Rachel when this happened,
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and rightfully so, because because of the way it unfolded, and and
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her being best friends with with Arianna, and you just can't fathom anyone doing
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this sort of thing. But anyhow, I do believe in many ways that
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Rachel was very much manipulated by Tom and very naive and made a lot of
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mistakes and she knows that. So that being said, I encourage you guys
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if you want to listen. I'm going to continue to listen to her podcast
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because now I'm very curious about this journey and I love the at least for
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this episode, because Melissa was on it. It was a very therapeutic episode
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and she does have you know, I would say shades of that in the
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few that I've listened to, and I like that angle. It's not very
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often that you see a reality star or you know, reality personality that was
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part of the biggest scandal in reality history. Yeah, leave and then pivot
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into somewhat of a self help situation, and I think it can be helpful
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for young women. I think it can be or whomever. Uh, And
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seeing some of her self actualization happen in real time, it's wild. I'm
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also incredibly disappointing Lisa vander Pomp hearing some of Rachel's perspectives and her side of
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the story with regard to the things that have been happening, And it's a
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lot to take in that being said, certainly a one eighty for me,
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well, I think that, and I think you've spoken to this. It's
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something I think about when you're when I'm watching these shows when it's, like
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you said, when a group goes after and there's a gang up, you
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don't like it, right, like in general, you know, And I
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think it's important because it's just like, what are we doing when somebody is
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getting just like rimmed down, hummeled? It's just like, is that fun?
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And that's sort of what happened with the world with Rachel, you know.
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So, I mean it was very hard because what we're seeing is somebody
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who is in this in the apartment, seeming glib, just completely like,
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so what we saw was not this journey of manipulation. It was like the
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end results. Yes, yes, you know, the destruction of everything and
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who she became and the choices that she made that were horrible. Yeah,
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But I will say watching this season, I am so struck by how manipulative
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Tom is. He's so good at what he does, and I literally can
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feel how strong she's being by not reaching out to him, and it's like
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taking away, you know, a drug because that's what he feeds off.
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Oh my god, you are so right. And I think so many people
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can relate with exactly what you said. When you are in an addictive relationship,
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you that codependency and you you physically feel like you need that and there
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is something chemically happening in your brain. I mean, there's no doubt and
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it's frightening. Yes, yeah, so so great. I mean, I'm
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definitely going to give that episode to listen for sure. That's I'm very interested.
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Good for her, and I really do think good for her. Yeah,
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and I really don't want Tom on vander Pump Rules ever again. I
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don't want to see that, man. I mean, that's it's not that
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I like, here's the thing. I can watch villains all day long and
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be like, this person's a piece of trash, you know, and continue
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with the journey. But when it cuts so deep, there are certain things
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that you just really begin to start to feel like you can't look past.
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And that's where I am now. Oh yeah, and I you know it's
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not He's not good. It is disappointing that you know the entire group is
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allowing for this manipulation. I think every single one of them has their eye
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on their paycheck and has an eye on their longevity. You're so right,
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so there there, I mean that scene where we I know we're getting but
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the scene where we just watch like Arian and Katie, you know, shooting
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the breeze, I'm like, oh, we got nothing here, you know.
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So it's like, what do we have without him? And maybe it's
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done and it's done, so I say that, you know, and I
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definitely see that in its future they we have to go through this season with
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him. In a way, it's interesting to see what's happening right now.
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I don't regret that we're where we are, but I also think as a
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companion piece, as we like to say, Rachel's podcast should be listened to
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if she's going to speak to this, you know, you know, and
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I've avoided that. I've ignored it and as something that's not important, and
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I feel a little vander pumpy about it in the sense of I'll have the
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Tom's backs, but I won't have the women's, you know, in that
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sense, because she's got such an investment in them. I mean it's almost
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like I understand why she. I mean literally literally business is caught up in
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them in so many different ways that it's She's sunk in so many ways.
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So I kind of see why she makes the comments that she does. Sure,
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so there's that what websitry. Maybe I don't know what comments she's made
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it well. On TMZ, was asked, what do you think about the
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lawsuit about the revenge porn and she was like, well, if she shouldn't,
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well she shouldn't take the pawn videos and send them to her best ex
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best friend. She was confused about well, from what I understand, I
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don't know if this is the case. But Rachel on her podcast spoke to
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that and she said that she was told that she put that narrative out there
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on purpose instead of which is a confusing message because that wasn't what happened.
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Obviously, it was taken without her knowledge, it was recorded without her knowledge
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over the FaceTime and then Arianna saw it. And Arianne is being accused of
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sharing that with people, and we don't know if she has or not.
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Marianna said she did not, so that's why she's part of the lawsuit.
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But that being said, Rachel is thinking that because someone told her that,
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vander Pump is saying that that's like it's a different narrative, that that's not
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what happened, and she's but by playing dumb, she's saying like she shouldn't
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send her videos out. Well, she didn't send the video out, and
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so what Rachel is saying that that can make a headline and then people will
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just automatically maybe believe that if I think, and then she's like, and
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that works. And I just thought, Wow, if that's really true,
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and I could see it being potentially true, that is so terrible and manipulative.
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Considering that that's not the case, and it would be surprising to me
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if Lisa didn't know the ins and outs that that lawsuit. How did she
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not know the facts about the recording of the FaceTime? Is she just playing
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dumb or is she genuinely like I don't even know what's going on and she's
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just doing her own thing. I mean, as somebody who did consume the
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whole thing, I don't I think I missed that it was a recording of
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a FaceTime somehow, or it didn't stay with me. I don't think I
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had that. Wow, there is a world. Okay that is shocking to
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me. Well, I didn't know that it was Tom recorded the face time?
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Oh okay, yeah, And then understanding I'm gonna let you stay judgments
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not it's not I know, I thought this was a safe space space I
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speak freely. I think that I could speak freely. I think you should
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go on to Rachel's podcast because this is not a safe space for you.
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It's see that and I'm seeing that, and I really am. I'm going
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to have to take I have to accept your point, which is that then
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there there barn lies the whole idea of putting it out there, that people
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will not remember the facts, and that that will be the narrative, uh
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to some people. So you actually just prove the point further. So look,
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we you know, we made Lemonade out of lemons technical but so I'm
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assuming he like ran a quick time screen recording. Yeah, he does that
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when he does screen recording of the FaceTime. Correct. Damn, that's nasty.
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And that's what Ariana found when he dropped his phone at that performance,
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and she was like, oh my god, yeah, I know. Okay,
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So well we can wrap that whole discussion up. And it was a
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long you know, it's under news because that is news that I've done a
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one to eighty in many ways. Other news is that the Queens of Bravo
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posted that they they're they're saying that Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season fourteen is
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beginning production in April, and that's very soon. Crazy, right, we're
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here. This January went so slow for me, and February and March have
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slid by. I'm like, oh, We're at Christmas. That's how I
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feel right now. I'm like totally terrified of the speed at which, like,
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I know, why is that happening? Have we entered don't know,
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a different dimension because I do feel the same way about time right now.
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I'm like I was thinking that day. I'm like, it's gonna be Christmas
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sooner than we know. I'm like, it's Thursday already. Again, this
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is crazy? Oh yeah, no, no, something's like it's I'm like
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I haven't made enough, Like everything is just I'm like, what, I
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haven't made anything this year? Like where's my money? Just happen of spiraling?
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Like, yeah, where is what is happening right now? Yeah?
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Show me the money is in two weeks? Oh my god, I can't
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go. They're filming in two ys. Can I never have one moment where
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it can be about me? Sorry? Shanon're we're talking about time, right
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now and like how time you know it was a factor. I'm sorry.
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I didn't mean to like exclude you from that. Oh my gosh, yeh
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terribly sorry, Oh my god. In other like Beverly Hills News, I
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was going through TikTok and I saw Lisa vander pomp Is the spokesperson for a
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Wayfair commercial which I was blown away. Did you see that? I am
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so. I went to look at the Wayfair stock and I am considering buying
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some because I got to tell you these Kelly clos slack tip, pot stock
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tip, hold on owl. I don't know why the violins started, but
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it's not sad. It's nice. Okay, Deanna, pick up where you
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left off before I interrupted you. I just feel like these are Kelly Clarson
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is the lead. They have Pepperdin, this person, that person and another.
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It's a wash of purple and it's working. Okay. I think these
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are fabulous commercials. I think in that it's just fun, colorful. They're
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showing the product. The rooms they're designing are like exactly what Wayfair is,
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which is affordable. You know, you can get a little style, there
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might be a little cheese. You gotta kind of watch yourself. But yeah,
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you're really pieces. You really have to narrow down that search or else
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you're going to be getting, you know, like a like a phone table.
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You know it's gonna it's gonna get really weird really quick, so you
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do need to filter it through. And I agree with you. Yeah,
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you can pick up some pieces that you know are not going to be you
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know, super expensive. So nothing cheap. I mean, listen, furniture
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is not cheap unless you go to Ikia, but you know, furniture is
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expensive. With that said, I am enjoying the commercials and I was happy
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to see Lisa. They don't they really have a range of folks. It's
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almost like a Dancing with the stars, you know. You know, I
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was surprised to see, like Kelly Clarkson has a line of furniture. That's
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what I was completely taken aback about. I was like, well, wow,
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let me tell you something. Yeah, tell me it's to Ireland.
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I'm just going to speak to Kathy Ireland first. Yeah, let's get into
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lady gratularly. iHeart Kathy Ireland. Yes, go do it? Yes,
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yes, she you know, she had her run, she had her Sports
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Illustrated run American, beautiful, you know, healthy American body. And she
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quietly has billions of dollars wow in home lines clothing lines. But her home
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line has done extraordinarily well. She is a billionaire. Wow. Let me
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double check on that. If you don't mind, I'm just gonna see.
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Yeah. But you know, she is someone who's quietly done that. It
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is. It's a hell of a smart move, you know, now,
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Kathy Ireland. So to your point, she was there before the rest of
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them, is what you're saying. She okay, So I'm sorry. Just
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as a result her career in business, she earned four hundred and twenty million
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personal fortune by twenty fifteen. Wow. In twenty twenty one, her company
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generated retail sales of three point one billion, three point one billion billion billion.
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Good for her? Is this is no empower. This is what women's
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history is all about. This is what I love. I love that we're
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throwing that out there. We should celebrate every day. Let's showcase them.
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You know, this is way to go. Kathy Ireland. And you know,
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to think that she was one of the earlier ones, I mean there
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was Martha Stewart obviously, Kathy Ireland I think was definitely one of the first
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of any personality outside of like Martha Stewart being the homemaking brand, you know,
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and I just feel like nobody talks about her. It's been just so
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quiet, you know, She's like quietly just been crushing it, crushing the
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game. I'm gonna try to get her on drama Darling. Let's see,
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you know, for women's history. That's what do you think the the odds
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are on that As you're buying your wayfair stock that Kathy will come on.
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We'll talk later. Okay, whoa, This is some wow. That's like,
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I like where your head's at. I'm giving you cheatah roar for that.
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And if she says no, I'm okay with it. It's going to
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have hurdles, you know. I just there's gonna be hurdles no matter what.
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And if I can't get Kathy Ireland, maybe Kathy Hilton, maybe Kathy
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who was another Jimmy Kathy and Jimmy, Kathy Lee Gifford, you name it,
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it's gonna be Kathy Lee. Listen, do I think Katy Ireland has
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ever watched Sorry for this wet hair that you're all getting. It's so out
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of the shower. Do you think Kathy Ireland has watched Do I think she's
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watched a stitch of reality television? No, ma'am, so you don't think
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so Okay, she's watched a frame, not one frame. Okay, I'm
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going to say she watches it all just for the sake of Beton. I
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almost promise you she does not watch a frame. Oh wow, you're very
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convincing. I might have to just put into that. By the way,
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I loved seeing the update of Garcel's beach house. So do you remember she
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bought that fixer upper? Like it was this tiny metal and I believe it's
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like in Ventura. That's what people are alleging. I got a hot tip
25:14
that it was over there, which is great because, like Ventura is has
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not exploded like other areas, but is starting to. So she was so
25:23
smart to buy property there, and my goodness, they have started and it's
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gonna be huge. I was shocked. These are the plans if you can
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see because this is on Who's this is Housewives Habit I got I saw this
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on Housewives Habit account. Oh wow, but it's an enormous Oh wow,
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he's a property. They even think it went up. So she was just
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it's all two story, two story. Did she make that two story happen?
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Yeah, she's they're in the process, I believe. I believe it
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has two stories already. Very cool. Yeah, exciting, but very I
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know. I'm so excited. I love watching women thrive that have been in
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the business for so long, you know what I mean. Like, and
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she's got those two sons. It's just it's good stuff. Yeah. So
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that being said, before we get into our Real Housewives of Beverly Hills recap,
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I have to remind you guys that I'm doing Stars at Sea, which
26:26
is a show that will be on the Water Show. Well, I'm gonna
26:30
do some bits in there. I mean, it's like, it's not a
26:32
full on like I'll probably do, you know, forty five minutes to an
26:34
hour and in her day, who I mean, I guess it is that's
26:38
the Jaylo movie, you know, like it's forty Wow. If you didn't
26:44
hear Deanna's take on the j Lo movie, you gotta go. You gotta
26:49
march yourself over to the Patreon to hear about that. But yes, April
26:55
sixth in Los Angeles, it's gonna be a three hour comedy boat tour on
26:59
the this and it's going to be amazing. You can get tickets. The
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link is in my bio, So just go to meeting me Phillips, follow
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me, go to the link in my bio. Stars at Sea and it's
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going to be a hybrid Booze Cruz comedy show. It's going to be so
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fun. Thank you to all the people that have already gotten tickets. I'm
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excited to see you. If not for the first time, but again,
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a lot of Darlings are coming. So it's gonna be Darling will be there,
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and Darling will be right there. This Darling Darling is gonna have not
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wet hair and she's going to be so that's fun. Yeah, you know,
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she'll be there with dry hair. So why don't we jump right into
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this reunion? Okay, duh, So Deanna, now, oh, we
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have to start with the Kyle stuff. We've just got to go right okay,
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yeah, you know, literally with with Andy just pivoting into well,
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Kyle's future and marriage are left hanging in the balance, and then Kyle be
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laying like thanks Andy. It was you know, it was a hard pivot.
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It was a hard pivot. Yeah, but I did feel like Andy
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showed up for us. Andy showed up for the viewers. Andy did ask
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all the questions and specifics that we needed to know. Whether or not we
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got those answers, it doesn't matter. He did his job and we are
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left with, you know, obviously some more questions. But at the same
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time, I, yeah, I knew. I think we're on the same
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page. Aams Yeah, she said it. She said it without saying it.
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What do we need the exact moment and of that he cheated. I
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actually think that is fair not to give us that. She told us.
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She literally said, some of the issues have never gone away that they've had
28:48
in their past. Something happened where I did lose my trust. And then
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the very next sentence was I care about my family first, and I tried.
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I really did. Now that to me says there's been cheating in the
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past. Obviously he brought up the tabloids. You know, She's been trying
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to push it away and push it away. It was always in the back
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of her mind. There was always some level of mistrust. The issues never
29:18
fully went away, meaning he continued to cheat, he wasn't honest about it.
29:23
She believed him when he said it was just rumors, and then she
29:27
got to the point where she hit a breaking point, thinking that just like
29:32
in the past, she could bounce back and get back into it and forgive
29:36
him. And guess what, she couldn't. She had had it and her
29:40
love for him. It waned and she thought that it would come back,
29:45
but it never did, so she couldn't. She couldn't recommit. And that's
29:49
yeah. I care about my family first, and I tried, meaning she
29:53
tried to sweep it under the rug and move on. Also, I care
29:56
about my family first, so I'm not going to tell you that he cheated
30:00
on me because I have children and I don't want that out there coming from
30:04
my mouth. I think we can all sit set it. She all but
30:10
said it like there's so many people being like, well we got a nothing
30:14
burger. I understand what you're saying, but can't you just can't you see
30:18
that she said it like I think she said it. I mean, I
30:22
don't personally need to know more than I mean, if someone wanted to give
30:26
it to me, I would have received it. But I feel like she
30:32
said, he's been she seeming she found something that, you know, that
30:41
confirmed all of her worst fears, right, and and that's it, you
30:47
know, she yeah, she can't. That's ended the marriage. And I
30:51
don't know, like that's it, Like she can't, it's not gonna be
30:52
cool with her anymore. She can't look past it. It wasn't just a
30:56
one time thing. Clearly things have been happening. Things happen and in the
31:00
past allegedly. I'm gonna have to say allegiate all this because none of this
31:03
has been really confirmed. But it's a pretty opening, shutcase. I mean,
31:10
this is not a cold case file like we can very confidently say Mauricio
31:15
cheated on her. He always people want she finally finally got sick of it
31:22
and can't sick of it kiss him anymore because she's disgusted by it. Like
31:26
right, that's that. That's just pretty much that. I mean, I'm
31:32
trying as you're talking, I'm going through my head thinking of like, okay,
31:37
so yes, in the past, like one we had the name of
31:40
the girl, there was a photo. I guess we don't have that thing,
31:44
and maybe that's what people are. Like. I found the way she
31:48
answered the Morgan question very strange, and I thought that for me was like
31:56
Andy should have gone in harder on her on that, but the Mauricia stuff,
32:01
I was like, yeah, she said it. He's been accused of
32:06
cheating forever and then she found something that showed that it was true. That's
32:10
it. Now, case closed, you know, like pretty much, and
32:16
it is really sad to see. I cannot imagine being Kyle and sitting there
32:22
on that couch and watching a montage of my marriage and family with music in
32:28
the background at all the years and like little poorscha and then just knowing that
32:34
your marriage is over. I don't even know how she did it, but
32:39
well, she showed up and she sat there for all the questions. Now
32:45
we did get the answer that he will be moving out, like he is
32:49
looking for a place, and it is looking like this is it. So
32:52
I feel like we're fine, We're fine. You know, this is where
32:55
things are ending up. Now let's discuss the Morgan thing. Okay, So
33:06
she obviously begins by saying like Morgan has never seen the show and she's been
33:10
uncomfortable with the attention and she wasn't doing it for clout, to which Morgan,
33:19
I'm sorry. Kyle defends like saying she doesn't need this, she just
33:22
wants to make music. And then I liked Andy's answer, which was conversely,
33:28
she has now become a household name and you can't ignore that. And
33:31
also also important to state that when Morgan agreed to do Kyle's show, The
33:39
Lorraine Tribute, she also negotiated for her to do her video, and I
33:45
think there's something to be said about that. Also, you know what,
33:49
You're very right, we didn't deal with that enough. It's like, she's
33:52
not a babe in the woods. She's not you know, new to the
34:00
game. She sees this as an opportunity that's regardless of anything else. Many
34:07
times, you know, friends and opportunities in the business go hands in hand,
34:13
you know what I mean. It's not like you can do that with
34:15
friends, like I could ask you to do something and it would be within
34:20
our friendship, but it's also an opportunity. You know, It's okay,
34:24
it's not the end of the world. But this framing that Kyle has where
34:29
it's like she doesn't even know that her numbers, she doesn't even know that
34:34
Stage Coach is now booking her for the next five years because of this,
34:37
or that her social media went up, or that she sold you know,
34:42
thirty million more in sale whatever whatever it was, right, you know,
34:45
she's doing commercial and wayfair you know, yeah, yeah, that way pair
34:51
cash coming in. So yeah, this the Morgan stuff is what bugged me
34:58
because Kyle so on her lap. They're cozy, they're flirting and all of
35:04
that, and Kyle's the rest of the group has to sit there like quietly
35:08
and not just speak plainly, like get the freak out of here. Yeah,
35:15
hey, y'all, it's me, Morgie. Get your life there.
35:22
Tettubl you can hail. Oh oh you know I tried. That's fine.
35:30
So she's selling tattoo again. I I really have to loop back guitar bed
35:37
ah. Yeah, well you get the idea. But you know, I
35:42
did really like that. Andy posed the question to everyone, like you said,
35:45
did you all think they were together? Crystal yes, Kyle yes from
35:50
the tabloids? Yeah, thank you, Crystal yes from the tabloids. No.
35:54
I thought it before I was sent stuff. I was sent Instagram pictures
35:59
and I do. And then in Kyle's mind, I think she was saying
36:02
like, yeah, well that's what I mean. It's like, well,
36:05
no, that's not necessarily tabloids. It's coming from your actual account and then
36:12
Derey being like, there were a lot of pictures of you two on Instagram,
36:15
way more than me and you, and it looked very suspicious because you
36:21
look like girlfriends. Now, I thought to myself for a second, just
36:27
because like a girl who who've we've seen as heterosexual is taking a picture with
36:34
someone who is a lesbian? Does are you automatically just making that assumption?
36:40
You know any of lesbian friends who I take pictures with, But I'm not
36:44
sitting on their laps, I'm not draped over them. I'm not having special
36:47
fruit moments with them. I'm not I have to say, I know,
36:52
like I mean, I guess what I'm saying is It did make me pause
36:57
for cause for a second there and say, like I'll do t touching with
37:00
my friends. You know, I'll like it's a joke, just like you
37:05
put your heads against each other, you know what I'm saying. Where it's
37:08
like, well I do I can get you know, very you know physical
37:14
that and like I'm an improviser. So my friends and I who are all
37:15
improvisers, we've been on stage so many times, we've like grabbed each other's
37:20
boobs on stage. We've you know, we've done a lot of ridiculous things
37:23
because we have the ultimate trust. So I guess what I'm saying is if
37:28
I had a friend who was a lesbian and I was in that situation where
37:32
like we I'm sitting on their lap and we're temple touching, Like I could
37:37
see people being like, what's going on? Well, nothing, you know,
37:39
So I did see it from that lens for a second, but only
37:45
for a second. I mean, you know, of course, like it's
37:49
just like sure, except that I don't see her doing that with any other
37:53
people. And there you have it. That's where Kyle is missing the point
37:59
that she has to look at this outside of everything and be like, you
38:02
have to see the as I hate this word, but like the optics of
38:06
what it looks like because it doesn't align. It's amy. She's so full
38:10
of shit on this. Yeah, that it's embarrassing. Okay, So a
38:17
relationship like or you were you've fucked you know, I don't. I mean,
38:25
it's stupid, Wow, just say it. Don't hold back. It's
38:31
just stupid. It's like, get out of here, get out of here.
38:36
So Kyle says, Okay, So she talks about Anne Marie actually speaks
38:45
to this. I think Kyle has found someone who makes her feel loved.
38:49
It's great when you have a friendship with somebody that you can bond with.
38:54
I mean, that was a nice way to support Kyle, and I think
38:57
that that's all she was trying to do because Anne Marie's got no one,
39:00
Let's be honest. She's like, yeah, out there kind of flying solo.
39:06
I know, I feel bad about Amory at this point, just because
39:08
I think it's been so rough that I don't you know, it's that's not
39:14
fun, No, it's it's it's cringey. The music video it was done
39:20
a month before the news broke about Mauricio, and she did not know what
39:27
the creative was until she got there. Bullshit. Yeah, I can't get
39:32
with that bullshit. I mean she wouldn't. I don't think if Morgan is
39:38
your friend, she's not gonna set you up like that in a situation to
39:43
where your entire brand is going to be questioned about your sexuality when you're in
39:50
a happy marriage. Also, so that at that point that does not check
39:54
out for me. She didn't know what the creative was, but then also
39:58
saying later that the reason why she said yes, was because she was curious.
40:04
You know, Like, what can I say? I was obviously curious
40:07
and she's hot if I'm being honest, So I please those two statements to
40:12
be extremely contradictory, and I would have no problem if she just was like
40:17
left it at I was just curious and yeah, I wanted to do this.
40:22
I thought it would be really fun and outside of my comfort zone.
40:24
And instead of saying I didn't know what the creative was, like I don't
40:29
get that, she's saying the day she showed up for the music video,
40:32
she didn't know what the creative was or before. I mean, it comes
40:37
down to like semantics, but she's saying like, oh, I didn't know
40:40
what the creative was before they told me about the creative. Okay, that's
40:45
a statement that says nothing. Truly. I think what I got from the
40:52
whole thing, because that whole part annoyed me a lot, but it what
41:00
I got from that whole segment was that the looks on everyone's faces, how
41:06
they were tiptoeing around it. You know, any other reunion, the girls
41:12
are just going to go all the way in, Like what are you talking
41:15
about? You were you know, there was not that it was very careful.
41:20
We also had lost Garcell and Sutton at that point. Who would be
41:22
the ones and that was that would have been interesting. It's unfortunate that they
41:29
didn't leave. I mean that they had to leave, but I'm also thinking
41:35
even if they were there, we still wouldn't have gotten what everybody wanted out
41:38
of this reunion, which was like for Kyle to come out of the closet
41:44
with her relationship with Morgan, and that was not going to happen at this
41:49
juncture. But right, but why didn't the girl? Like I guess My
41:53
point is that I sort of was aware of Kyle's power in this group based
42:00
on how careful they were all being and how reserved and polite everyone was around
42:08
the topic. And like even Erica's looking to the side and everyone's you know,
42:15
quiet about it and not going in. I'm like, with all the
42:19
evidence provided by Kyle, Kyle had her on the show. That's how I
42:27
know so much. I don't know it from the tabloids, I know it
42:30
from Kyle. Well. Also interesting that Erica was really singing a different tune
42:40
about wanting everyone to be eviscerated like she was, and then not saying a
42:46
word. However, I have to hand it to the loyalty in terms of
42:52
friendship. I think that Dart certainly didn't want to cross Kyle again because of
42:58
everything they've been through, and Erica has a sense of loyalty to Kyle.
43:01
And this is where I don't really have a problem with that. When you
43:05
are real friends on a show and you have someone's back, I'm never going
43:09
to come for you if you don't go for them. Because I think that
43:15
there's such a lack of loyalty and friendship on so many of these shows true
43:20
friendship, and so when I do see that, I don't necessarily have a
43:22
problem with it. But that's the problem. We were missing the other side
43:25
of the couch, which has every right to do that, and Crystal was
43:30
only going to go so far. And also I think here is Kyle whose
43:35
marriage has completely fallen apart, and she has shared everything that at some point,
43:40
you know, you do have to have a little empathy, so obviously
43:45
she's not willing to share it. What are you going to do? You
43:46
know, are you really just going to be that person to just drill down
43:51
on her? And then to your point earlier on in earlier episodes where we've
43:55
been recapping Beverly Hills, You've so much as said, but I don't need
44:00
to be told. I think we've already been told that she and Morgan are
44:02
in a relationship or are a thing. But and I kind of feel that
44:07
too. I honestly don't care what Kyle is saying, because I just feel
44:12
like they have had something like it's going on, it's having it may be
44:16
done now. I mean, who knows, it might have been a few
44:20
months, it might have been a few weeks even. I mean that I
44:22
don't know, but I know that's a good point. It's a good point
44:27
because when she point blank answers Andy's questions, which is is there anything going
44:31
on between the two of you? Are you a couple? Do you have
44:36
feelings with her? And Kyle saying no, no, no, and then
44:39
answering the last question, which is I love her, she's my friend.
44:44
I love her. So I do feel like that means, in a way
44:49
of getting between the lines, there was something and now they're maybe they friend
44:52
zoned it it, And so she can safely say no, there is an
45:00
anything, so she's not technically lying. But the second this Rena was over,
45:07
they got back together, guaranteed, you know, Like that's how I
45:12
see it, and and her answering the question to Andy, could you see
45:15
yourself with Morgan? How uncomfortable she was at that moment, and turning to
45:20
Kathy and Kathy being like, who don't don't don't be ashamed? You know
45:25
did she say that? Uh? Yeah, Kathy said something along the line,
45:30
so don't be scared, do not don't be ashamed, but don't be
45:34
like, speak your truth, don't worry, it's ok Like it's okay,
45:38
and Kyle saying I'm evolving, I'm changing, I'm going through an evolution of
45:43
my own and I don't know what my future holds until Morgan's next concert.
45:47
Hi, kh are we excited to get back into our relationship? All right?
45:52
Here we go, Lee, are back to our relation chip since everything
46:00
hails ramp right, I mean that has to be what it is. Yeah,
46:07
you know they made of yes, and maybe she is uncomfortable with her
46:13
kids and all of that, but yeah, the person who made me very
46:15
very very aware of Morgan is Kyle. Right, So I don't know what
46:24
we're doing. She's like tabloids. Tabloids is where you got that from that
46:35
rotten lady on TikTok who did the charts and put the dates next to the
46:39
charts. That's who you got it from. Like, no, bitch,
46:42
you you And he's like, maybe next or she'll be here on the couch
46:47
with us, and she's like maybe maybe. I mean, I just we
46:52
have to like wrap it up. You know, people are annoyed, but
46:54
I guess I'm just laughing. I'm just laughing at it. Yeah, time
47:00
and going. Look, you know, this lady has been through enough air.
47:05
Quite frankly, she lost her best friend. It's okay to give her
47:10
a buy on some things. If she's not ready to just flat out say
47:15
she had the greatest sex of her life with Morgan, then like, let's
47:19
let her not say it, right, Okay, Well you know ash it
47:23
on the flip side, you know whatever that is. Well, yeah,
47:28
we'll catch on the flip side. She said enough, she shared enough?
47:31
Yes, and fine. I think the conversation moving forward before next season,
47:37
well before April when they start shooting, is, Kyle, if you're not
47:43
going to share what's really going on with you and Morgan, then maybe it's
47:45
time to sit a season out. Do you think she's going to be there
47:51
next to you. Do you think she wants next season out of curiosity?
47:55
Well, I just I think that there are certain people that thrive on the
48:01
money and the fame of it, and I think, you know, where
48:05
we are with Kyle is that that's part of her personality that maybe some of
48:08
us don't really want to accept, and I being one of them, but
48:14
that is that is I think the truth, and I think that yes,
48:16
she does want to be on the show, and I think she's going to
48:19
have a decision to make, which is if she does come back and she
48:22
keeps this Morgan thing going on. If Morgan is not in her life anymore,
48:30
that's a difference story. But if she's in her life and we keep
48:32
seeing what we're seeing, then she really does need to come out with more
48:38
or she shouldn't be. Yeah, because it's going to be. I'm not
48:42
as annoyed as everybody is from the season about it, because like she's got
48:45
all this stuff going off from Maricio. I can't expect the world from one
48:50
reality star. So I'm okay with the way things shaped out, But it's
48:54
going to be a different tune from me if it happens next season. Yeah.
49:00
Yeah, so now Kathy was there and we need to just deal with
49:09
everything about it. What is what does tell me where you I mean,
49:14
the whole thing was fascinating. You know, needed her. She did give
49:21
me a jolt. I didn't think I needed her, but we certainly did
49:24
after a sudden and Garcela left, which maybe we should talk about that real
49:30
quick. Okay, that was terrifying and terrifying. When somebody I don't know
49:37
who said it, they were like, I think that she literally lost conscious
49:39
consciousness Kathy, Yeah, that's so scary. She must have, do you
49:46
think so? Yeah, because her falling back, it made it seem like
49:51
she saw black or stars for a second like that moment. I didn't know
49:59
how how much she has physically going on. You know, she's not particularly
50:06
well. Neuropathy, the esophagus, whatever that was. Yeah, I don't
50:14
know what that felt like, potentially a mini stroke, I mean, but
50:19
that's not I know, obviously don't know anything about what that would. I
50:22
wonder if we're going to get an update of some kind, I wonder that
50:25
too. Obviously. The description at the end said that, you know,
50:30
Sutton did go to the hospital out of an abundance of caution or maybe Andy
50:35
said that, yeah, as much caution. I mean, he keeps saying
50:37
abundance of caution. I was like, get hurt to the hospital right now.
50:42
That's what I want. Is not well. The medic spoke to it.
50:45
The medic said, she doesn't need to go, like maybe to an
50:51
urgent care. But I agree with psychotic. Yeah, honestly it's psychotic.
51:00
She needed to go to the hospital. You don't wait on stuff like that.
51:04
I mean, and she still went to her heart rate or yeah,
51:07
it was her blood pressure. That was. Both her heart rate and her
51:10
blood pressure were up. You don't mess Yeah, you don't mess with that
51:15
stuff. Oh god, I mean that to me, I was like,
51:19
the medic doesn't know what he's talking about, and yikes, that was my
51:23
take, Like he wasn't watching this, he didn't see it. He's wrong,
51:30
you know what I mean. There's no way you don't go to the
51:32
hospital for that. That's just crazy. I worry. I worry about her.
51:37
Yeah, that was insane. That was so much worry about her.
51:42
A first in a reunion and you know, like eat something I love.
51:46
The Garcela was like eat another banana, you know, yeah, she was
51:51
drinking the orange juice. It just yeah, I'm very concerned about that,
51:57
very shocking. And then to have them grab their phones and merss ashes and
52:06
then for Eric to be like merss in the pars again, I mean,
52:08
I mean, what a moment for reality television to have lived through that and
52:16
just a heads up, my husband and dog are going to be coming fun
52:20
shortly. They don't mind look at that fluffy tail. They to have Merse
52:30
tucked in the couch was a new level. I was like, Merc in
52:36
the couch feels wrong. You know. To have Andy sort of rummaging around
52:44
for Merce is like, at this point, I want his ashes to be
52:50
where they're going to be and their final resting place, you know, on
52:53
Garcel's back. Everyone's back, high wing, high wing. But also I
53:04
don't know who said it, but they were like, I thought that we
53:07
like got rid of Merce. Well yeah, we got him all over everybody.
53:14
So it's like you have more, you have a dusting of Merce left,
53:16
Like how much mer Mer I want to know in grams and ounces,
53:22
how much Merce do we have left? And he was Sutton's not the only
53:29
one that had him, so it's like you know, he must have been
53:34
all of his dance wear as well. That was you know, cremated.
53:39
His studio is dancewear. It's like a lot went into that, a tremendous
53:45
amount. It was interesting while she was sitting on the couch with Garcel and
53:50
they were checking her, Erica and Kathy had a little Kiki just being like,
53:54
you know, how is a what's been going on since Christmas? DJ?
53:59
The Christmas Deck? I mean it was just a moment of just odd
54:02
awkwardness and short conversation which was very comedic. It was good. It was
54:10
two narcissists just on display, two heartless broads, you know, two people
54:20
who don't have an ounce of empathy amongst them to come up with. I
54:29
mean they don't. They are cold, how snakes tell them? It was
54:37
rivaling Lisa on the boat in Miami, you know when Gerdy was like yeah,
54:43
lip gloss. Yeah, definitely on that level for sure. Although how
54:47
long was the medics sitting there? You have to to think, oh,
54:52
decline that phone call. You have to think like, well, what would
54:55
I have done in that situation? Would I have had a little you know,
54:59
kiki for a just because there's nothing to do? I don't know.
55:02
Possibly it's not just the key key, it's the you know, Kathy calling
55:08
it a hot flash and screaming her age out and saying like, better get
55:14
used to it. It's a hot flash, honey, Like what that?
55:17
I mean what it's just you can't even you know, like what Kyle's been
55:27
through with this Kathy, because she's so wild and and she's just you can't,
55:37
I mean, the last person you want around you in a crisis.
55:43
Well, speaking of Kathy being there, really and she made it clear she
55:47
showed up to be a support for Kyle. Certainly I appreciated that because nowhere
55:55
in anyone's mind did we think Kathy would ever be taking the likes of a
56:00
Beverly Hills reunion stage again after what happened last year. So Kathy to basically
56:07
say, like a TV show is not more important than my sister, to
56:10
acknowledge the blow up that they had last year, to say that you've never
56:14
had a blow up that bad, and her being like I'm gonna hide my
56:16
fingers on how many blow ups we've found, and we're going to play a
56:19
little game, and Kyle's like three, and she's like, see, I
56:22
had three fingers held up exactly. I kind of like that. For some
56:27
weird reason, I believed it, I guess, quirky and weird, and
56:30
yeah, loved it, of course. Yeah, yeah, you know,
56:36
God did they play fast and loose with their sisterhood? You know what I
56:38
mean? Like, whoof? I mean, I would no less tell somebody
56:45
you and me in confidence something about my sisters that was negative. Yeah,
56:51
forget about on the air on television on a national stage. So to me,
56:58
like knowing she only caught some clips and then those packages, seeing those
57:06
packages roll, I was like, well, she may just jump off this
57:07
couch right now. Yeah, does she know this stuff? Like she was
57:13
in tears. I was a little confused about if she was wiping away tears
57:20
out of laughter or tears. Well I think maybe both. But like when
57:25
she was getting accused of being like a social like she could kill someone's social
57:30
game, she was, you know, basically with the crying goal wiping her
57:34
eyes over that, and it was because she was laughing, I think,
57:37
I don't know, it was very confused. I don't know. I was
57:40
confused with her tear wiping, her frequent tear wiping. I took it as
57:45
like that was really hard to see my sister lambass me on a television program.
57:52
Okay, I was very confused, but I was confused that Andy didn't
57:57
ask her about the tears, so I don't know. You know, it
58:00
was so early on. She literally just sat down, placed that person on
58:04
her lap, and we were off to the races. Yeah, you know
58:07
the brutal clip package. Well, we quickly got into the Moracio thing and
58:15
the Hilton and Highland situation, to which Kyle wanted to shut that down very
58:22
quickly. We got a few more details on that. We obviously got the
58:24
first of the details from Mauricio in his clip for selling Beverly Hills. Also
58:30
completely forgot that Mauricio wrote a book, and he obviously spoke to this in
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his book, which completely could have cleared up this for me a long time
58:39
ago, because I was always wondering. But he said that he said in
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his book that if meaning Hilton in Highland, if they would have paid me
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an inkling of what I was worth, I would have stayed. And that
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Rick. He told Rick on a Thursday that he was quitting to start his
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own busy to say that in the book Kathy said this, she did,
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oh, I didn't know if that was also in the book, because that
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was shocking. That was shocking, and I believe that this was certainly not
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in the book. This was Kathy's side, okay, saying okay, she
59:16
told Rick he was quitting on Thursday, and that Rick was like, it's
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hard to start your own business. The door is always open to come back,
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just don't poach my staff or agents. And then we learned that Mauriso
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did take a few people, and we Kyle clarified because this was an important
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part of it, which is that he had his own group, his Yumansky
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group, under the umbrella of Hilton Highlands, so he had kind of built
59:39
up his own group there, and I'm guessing he took those people, which
59:45
was a very important clarifying statement that makes it more of a gray area.
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However, like it doesn't make Marisa look as bad as I thought it made
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him look, but it still made him look bad because he was told not
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to take any of the staff. She did to where I was thinking,
1:00:01
oh, no, wonder Kyle was supporting this, but I don't know if
1:00:05
she fully supported it, because that's what Mauricio says, and I don't know
1:00:07
if I trust anything. He says, what were your thoughts on this?
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I mean, my overall thoughts were you know, I can imagine someone like
1:00:21
Rick does not when people, when you don't invest in people, which just
1:00:25
sounds like what he did. I think he had him in a place.
1:00:30
It was like I did the lord's work by giving him this opportunity. You
1:00:37
know, he should be grateful to be here and didn't take it, you
1:00:44
know, didn't do what maybe he should have done, was making a partner.
1:00:47
It seems like a big deal to make someone a partner. I don't
1:00:52
know if he was at that level. I have no idea, but it's
1:00:55
really complicated and I have a feeling that the Hiltons did not take care of
1:01:04
him correctly. Wow. But that's a lot of businesses, and that's why
1:01:10
people splinter off, and you know, sometimes that's how rich people stay rich.
1:01:16
And you know, it's a bummer. It's like the reason you don't
1:01:22
work with family and friends is this. But clearly it worked out for Moe.
1:01:30
It's hard. It's a hard one. I think he got too big
1:01:35
for his bridges and felt entitled, and which really checks out to what it
1:01:40
sounds like. His personality is especially stepping out on the marriage allegedly, you
1:01:45
know what I mean, right, But to be fair, his business is
1:01:51
extraordinarily successful. So he wasn't wrong. Well, I mean, I'm not
1:02:00
saying he wasn't wrong on what he did. I'm saying he wasn't wrong in
1:02:04
that he was a powerhouse of an agent. Okay, yeah, I'll get
1:02:08
with you. That's what I mean. I will say there's a way to
1:02:10
do it and do it the right way with ethics. What what would that
1:02:15
way be? Do you think? Well? I don't think that he should
1:02:17
have stormed out of there and been like, you don't want make me a
1:02:22
partner, I'm leaving and I'm taking, you know. And it was that
1:02:24
of vengeance, it seemed like. So I think that it could have been
1:02:28
like I would like to have known more of the discussion. I would have
1:02:31
liked maybe Mauricio to have explained did he approach did Rick ex respond by saying,
1:02:38
not right now? Maybe in your future, but not right now.
1:02:43
Doesn't sound like it though. Do you know, I'm I'm back in touch
1:02:49
with someone I used to work for and listening to how she's positioning getting paid
1:02:57
by people, and she enjoys you know, it's it's some people that's just
1:03:04
their default, you know. And I imagine that he is not giving mister
1:03:13
Hilton in that way that he keeps people. I can see it, I
1:03:16
can feel it, you know. Well, that's an interesting point. It's
1:03:22
like, no, you're going to go this high, but you aren't gonna
1:03:27
get You're not going to get the gold, You'll get the bronze. Right,
1:03:30
I'm going to keep you there and you should be happy to be there,
1:03:34
but I'm not going to take it all the way with you, Like
1:03:37
I just feel it. But maybe Rick has business smarts. Maybe if he
1:03:42
did do that, it wouldn't have worked out in some way because maybe,
1:03:47
look, maybe there's stuff about Mauricio that we don't know business wise. That's
1:03:52
shape, that's true, And maybe Rick actually had a vibe about him and
1:03:57
was like, if I give this man too much control, it's going to
1:04:00
hinder my empire that I've built, and I can't risk that totally. I'd
1:04:04
be curious to know how much of Moe's business has taken from the Hilton real
1:04:12
estate business. I'd be curious to know what percentage, you know, overall,
1:04:17
just because it's done so well, you know, But yeah, all
1:04:21
of that. That's why it's so complicated. Yeah, yeah, because it
1:04:29
is family, so it's just so complicated. Yeah. Well that it just
1:04:33
goes to show how big of a situation that was for their family and how
1:04:39
they just do not want to talk about it. And now when Andy asks
1:04:42
them, how did they get back together? Kathy and Kyle and they talked
1:04:46
about Whitney's you know, wedding and the shower and Kathy crying and being in
1:04:53
the hair salon all by yourself and saying that Kyle came in and was excited
1:04:57
to see her and called her her sister, and that that was a real
1:05:00
moment for them. I thought that was really sweet me too, and Kyle
1:05:04
such a specific Yes, it took me there. It was a story that
1:05:09
I could visualize, like Kathy was sitting there all alone, probably feeling lonely,
1:05:14
no distractions, and then to hear her sister's voice in a loving way,
1:05:19
It's amazing. I could totally. She painted that picture perfectly because there
1:05:27
was no one to impress. Kyle wasn't doing it for anyone's benefit. It
1:05:33
was a genuine reaction, yeah, to her sister being there, and I
1:05:38
think she just needed that, Yeah, Kathy needed to know that when all
1:05:45
is said and done, that Kyle still loves her, still loves her.
1:05:47
And did you notice that there was a real point to be made about saying
1:05:55
you need to feel like I need you. Kathy needs to feel like Kyle
1:05:59
needs her, and and that's true. And that's yeah, And there disagreement,
1:06:05
they're agree like they're basically very much the same person in many ways.
1:06:10
They're like, you're very strong. Well, I don't think you realize how
1:06:12
strong you are. You're a strong, strong willed, I think is what
1:06:15
they were saying, and strong headed and like, but they're cut from the
1:06:18
same cloth. And I did like that Kyle acknowledged that Kathy has been there
1:06:24
for her in a huge way lately, and it's amazing how the pendulum has
1:06:28
swung. Yeah. No, I loved having them there together. I mean,
1:06:36
I was amazed with how well they did with all the landmines. But
1:06:44
she said, yeah, Kyle warned me, you know, there were and
1:06:46
they had their little conflicts, and it was they're in a really good spot.
1:06:51
Yeah, it's it's very good. It's very good. Well, anything
1:06:56
else you want to say on this episode that we didn't cover I feel like
1:07:00
we touched down on a lot. The only thing and I don't I know
1:07:05
I said this to you, but the wording of it I don't have.
1:07:08
But like seeing Dearie and those clips in her hair, Oh god, yeah,
1:07:15
getting exposed, the hood slipping back further and the clips getting exposed was
1:07:25
making me crazy. Oh boy. Yeah, that look didn't get any easier
1:07:34
to look at. For three episodes. It got harder and harder, harder
1:07:39
and harder, harder and harder, harder, and had also flashing back to
1:07:45
the bad reunion with Kathy again with Kyle with the two strands framing her face.
1:07:54
I don't know why she likes that look so much? Why? Why?
1:07:58
Why? Why? Why? Why does she like it in a reunion
1:08:01
to have two aggressive strands down. You know, it may go towards her.
1:08:06
You know, she's like such a fidget she fidgets. Yeah, and
1:08:10
the licking of the lips and stuff. I think it's like protection. She's
1:08:14
got to feel like there's something there, you know. She just wear it
1:08:17
down. No, no, Deana, she cannot. You want the answers,
1:08:26
and I'm giving it to you. Thank you. I did need that,
1:08:30
you know, just want it. I just those strands are I don't
1:08:34
know if they're doing what she thinks they're doing. You know. Yeah,
1:08:40
well the strand war between her strands and Durite strand, we got we were
1:08:46
stranded out, which bothered you more. Honestly, Jurid's Barrett exposure was worse,
1:08:56
was worse for me, but kyle strand was worse than the you know
1:09:02
loop during the curl shellacked loop. Yeah, okay, I uh, I'm
1:09:10
gonna go with Dretz. That one was more bothersome to me than Kyle,
1:09:14
probably because I'm just so used to Kyle having those strands and I've gotten used
1:09:16
to it. Yeah, yeah, this strands, Kathy, now do we
1:09:24
I watched it on Peacock this morning, so I don't know, did you
1:09:28
watch it last night or did you watch it on Peacock? I watched it
1:09:31
half last night half this morning, so I watched the screener. Okay,
1:09:35
So did it have Kathy at the trailer and that whole group taking pictures of
1:09:42
her? Wow? Yeah? Wow, I know. I mean, I'm
1:09:48
glad you brought that up. I was really surprised. What is what happened?
1:09:54
What was that? Was that? Does that everybody's exit out there trailer.
1:09:59
I have no Okay, it must have been you know what it was.
1:10:02
Here's here's what it was. Here's what I'm gonna guess is that this
1:10:06
was the big reveal of It was a surprise that Kathy was coming to the
1:10:11
reunion. So I think they wanted to put that out on the press.
1:10:14
They had press there for that, to show that she was going to be
1:10:15
there, they needed to announce that. Okay, so there you have it.
1:10:19
But that was something else. Wow, because when you saw that photo,
1:10:25
it just looked like, oh, she had someone take that on her
1:10:27
iPhone and she posted it. But then to see like that Miss Hilton,
1:10:32
you know, it's like what wow? Really a photo op? Yeah?
1:10:39
And you do when you see Honestly seeing that, I was like, yeah,
1:10:44
these people are stars. You know there's sometimes I forget. It's a
1:10:50
lot to give that up. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Well everybody,
1:10:59
Hey, Deanna, can you tell people where to march over to find
1:11:01
you? Yeah, I'd love to march yourself over to the Montage Queen for
1:11:09
your Montage needs, birthdays, anniversaries, you know, memorials, bot mitzvah's,
1:11:15
anything of that sort. And then if you want to have a little
1:11:18
fun. You can after you march there, hop back on your browser and
1:11:24
go to how tobe less old dot substack dot com. Oh yeah, love
1:11:29
that sub check it out. We just did a viral uh TikTok dance challenge
1:11:34
again. Our second one up a more successful version. We did the Beyonce
1:11:38
Texas hold Them Dance? Now? Was that the same song that Mauricio was
1:11:43
dancing to recently, that that everyone's embarrassed about. Oh my god, I
1:11:47
don't know. It ain't Taxas Dinner. Maybe it's a different Texas song.
1:11:55
I don't know if it's the Beyond. I gotta go look that up.
1:11:59
I gotta go because I didn't put the volume up because I was so I
1:12:01
had second embarrassment. I was so cringe. I had to like go past
1:12:05
it really quickly. That's why you don't have the facts because I couldn't land
1:12:09
on it. But thank you all for posting it. But I couldn't.
1:12:12
I couldn't do it. Oh God help us. But yeah, you don't
1:12:15
know your TikTok. So we're tiktoking. We had fun. We're you know,
1:12:20
we're just learning and growing guys, and we'd love to have you with
1:12:24
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