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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hey, this is Carly.
- 0:01Speaker 2: And this is your host, Riley, your favorite OK Storytime host.
- 0:04Speaker 2: And we've got some great stories coming up from you.
- 0:06Speaker 1: But before that, we have a quick two minute break
- 0:08Speaker 1: from the sponsors that keep the show alive. I told
- 0:12Speaker 1: my cousin that her kids are not special and it
- 0:15Speaker 1: made her crash out.
- 0:16Speaker 3: They are special snowflakes.
- 0:18Speaker 1: They are special snowflakes. I, female 35, don't like kids
- 0:23Speaker 1: and never want them. Well, I see the issue here already.
- 0:29Speaker 1: My cousin, female 32, has five. Dang. She dropped out
- 0:34Speaker 1: of college and had her first kid at 20 and
- 0:36Speaker 1: her youngest at 28. She just cannot wrap her head
- 0:40Speaker 1: around why I never want kids and is always asking
- 0:42Speaker 1: when I plan to get married and pregnant. I've told
- 0:46Speaker 1: her several times that while both my partner and I
- 0:49Speaker 1: plan to marry in the future, neither of us wants kids.
- 0:52Speaker 1: She always brushes it aside with, oh, you'll change your mind.
- 0:56Speaker 1: I'd avoid this person completely, but I do run into
- 0:59Speaker 1: her when I visit my grandfather. Cousin has always had
- 1:03Speaker 1: this annoying habit of getting me to spend time with
- 1:06Speaker 1: her kids to get me to see how great kids are. Now,
- 1:10Speaker 1: I have nothing against her kids, but they can be
- 1:13Speaker 1: a bit rambunctious at times, and I just don't want
- 1:16Speaker 1: to have to spend time with them. They're kids. I
- 1:19Speaker 1: never really know what to say to them. Cousin also
- 1:22Speaker 1: refuses to discipline them and lets them run wild, even
- 1:25Speaker 1: in my grandfather's house. According to her, these kids are
- 1:28Speaker 1: angels and can do no wrong. And when they knock
- 1:31Speaker 1: over my grandfather's stuff or make noise when he's trying
- 1:34Speaker 1: to sleep, it's adorable.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Oh.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Yeah. I've seen the kids like that.
- 1:40Speaker 4: I was at a taco stand the other day, and
- 1:42Speaker 4: these kids were pulling the post to the tent like
- 1:46Speaker 4: it was a jungle gym, and the parents were just
- 1:47Speaker 4: doing nothing.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 1:49Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just like, those kids suck.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the whole thing falls and everything catches
- 1:54Speaker 1: on fire because it falls on the stove.
- 1:55Speaker 4: I will say, though, it's always a weird red flag
- 1:58Speaker 4: to me when people are like, I don't know what
- 2:00Speaker 4: to say to kids.
- 2:02Speaker 3: It's like, what? What are you talking about?
- 2:04Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just humans. You can just literally have a conversation.
- 2:07Speaker 3: You can just be like, what's your favorite animal? Yeah. Like,
- 2:11Speaker 3: come on.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Or be like, what's your favorite subject in school? Oh,
- 2:14Speaker 1: who's your best friend? I love to ask that.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Yeah, not hard at all to talk to a kid.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Not at all.
- 2:21Speaker 3: I'm getting a weird vibe, but it's fine.
- 2:23Speaker 1: And they will immediately just go and go and go.
- 2:26Speaker 1: The other day, she again tried to convince me to
- 2:28Speaker 1: change my mind about kids with, look how special and
- 2:31Speaker 1: magical they are. Don't you want one? That was when
- 2:35Speaker 1: one of her boys ran straight into the antique grandfather clock.
- 2:39Speaker 1: It wobbled, but thankfully didn't topple over.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Okay, that's funny. That's perfect comedic timing.
- 2:45Speaker 1: I was just going to say, these kids know comedic timing.
- 2:49Speaker 1: That's hard to come by. By the way, this comes
- 2:52Speaker 1: from throwawaymyboobs. And if you want to submit your own stories,
- 2:58Speaker 1: go to the r slash okay story type subreddit. I'm Savannah.
- 3:01Speaker 3: I'm Dakota.
- 3:02Speaker 1: And we're here to talk about kids and how they
- 3:06Speaker 1: are nature's greatness. And also, worst thing ever. And you know,
- 3:11Speaker 1: we're going to tell you our opinion. You let us
- 3:14Speaker 1: know what you think in the comments. And that's all.
- 3:17Speaker 1: As OP says, she seemed unfazed by this. I got
- 3:22Speaker 1: really annoyed and told her, no, your kids aren't special.
- 3:26Speaker 1: They're as annoying and as unremarkable as you are. Cousin
- 3:30Speaker 1: started to cry and went to my grandfather to complain
- 3:33Speaker 1: to him like she was five years old. And this
- 3:35Speaker 1: makes sense why the kids don't are the way that
- 3:37Speaker 1: they are.
- 3:38Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:39Speaker 3: But also, that was mean for no reason.
- 3:41Speaker 1: It really was, yeah.
- 3:42Speaker 3: But she also... Her kids just gave you free comedic entertainment.
- 3:46Speaker 3: She said, look how special they are. Boom. Like, come on.
- 3:52Speaker 1: You had to have, like, snickered a little bit.
- 3:54Speaker 3: If you didn't, there's something wrong with you.
- 3:57Speaker 1: That's a red flag on you. I felt no need
- 3:59Speaker 1: to apologize and left. Later that day, Grandpa called me
- 4:02Speaker 1: and told me he understood why I said what I
- 4:05Speaker 1: had said but then I was a bit too harsh.
- 4:08Speaker 1: What does Reddit think? Am I the a-hole?
- 4:10Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and say yes. That was
- 4:13Speaker 4: an a-hole thing to do. That was rude.
- 4:16Speaker 3: That was mean.
- 4:17Speaker 1: But I also understand if she's like saying every single time, like,
- 4:20Speaker 1: my kids are the best. Look, aren't they great? And
- 4:22Speaker 1: they're just annoying. And there's five of them and they're
- 4:25Speaker 1: just all like fighting, running around, causing a ruckus, whatever.
- 4:29Speaker 1: I'd be like, This is the example you want me
- 4:31Speaker 1: to go off of. No, I don't want kids.
- 4:33Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can just be like, I mean, yeah,
- 4:36Speaker 4: your kids are special. They're especially annoying. Like they run amok, whatever.
- 4:41Speaker 4: Don't make it like your kids are as unremarkable as
- 4:44Speaker 4: you are.
- 4:44Speaker 3: Like that's.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:45Speaker 4: If I had kids, I don't think I'd forgive you
- 4:48Speaker 4: for a minute for that.
- 4:49Speaker 3: That's crazy.
- 4:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 4:51Speaker 1: I can understand you being like, no, they aren't special
- 4:53Speaker 1: or something like that. Like out of spite. But then
- 4:55Speaker 1: also of like being like, No, and they also suck
- 4:58Speaker 1: as much as you. It's like, oh.
- 5:00Speaker 4: It's like now you're being all, you're putting, the stakes
- 5:03Speaker 4: are too high. It's like if you have this conviction
- 5:05Speaker 4: that you don't want kids, like it shouldn't be this
- 5:08Speaker 4: like big thing, like a big deal when your sister
- 5:12Speaker 4: who has five of them is like, don't you want kids?
- 5:14Speaker 4: You should just be like, I still don't. Yeah, sure,
- 5:16Speaker 4: your kids are special. I still don't want any. That
- 5:18Speaker 4: should be as hard as it is, you know? Yeah.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Edit, this is the update. Today, in the late afternoon,
- 5:26Speaker 1: my grandfather invited me and my cousin to his place
- 5:30Speaker 1: to talk and clear the air. As a peace offering,
- 5:33Speaker 1: I baked a chocolate cake for her kids that I
- 5:35Speaker 1: know they love. Okay, starting off good. When she arrived,
- 5:39Speaker 1: we both sat down with my grandfather in the study.
- 5:42Speaker 1: I began the conversation by telling her I was sorry
- 5:45Speaker 1: and that I did not mean what I had said.
- 5:47Speaker 1: That I have nothing against her kids and I said
- 5:49Speaker 1: what I said in a moment of anger. She accepted
- 5:52Speaker 1: my apology, but then told me something I had not expected.
- 5:56Speaker 1: She said she has always had a feeling that I
- 5:58Speaker 1: looked down on her because she did not finish her
- 6:01Speaker 1: college education and has no career. I tried to tell
- 6:04Speaker 1: her that wasn't true, but she cut me off. She
- 6:07Speaker 1: reminded me of all the times I had invited other
- 6:10Speaker 1: siblings and cousins to my place for parties, etc., but
- 6:13Speaker 1: never her. I tried to tell her it was because
- 6:16Speaker 1: I had more in common with them, but she kept
- 6:18Speaker 1: talking over me. Then she decided to bring up something
- 6:21Speaker 1: that had happened over 13 years ago. Oh, God. So
- 6:26Speaker 1: she's just bringing up the past now.
- 6:28Speaker 3: She's been hanging on to some stuff.
- 6:31Speaker 1: 13 years worth.
- 6:33Speaker 3: Also, I'm not going to lie, OP.
- 6:35Speaker 4: I think you need to actually examine yourself and really
- 6:38Speaker 4: find the answer on whether or not you look down
- 6:40Speaker 4: on her for that because that is kind of the
- 6:43Speaker 4: vibe that you give off.
- 6:44Speaker 3: It is.
- 6:45Speaker 1: It kind of seems like you're, you know, You made
- 6:47Speaker 1: the smart decision. Right.
- 6:49Speaker 4: Like, whether it was intentional or not, like, I think
- 6:51Speaker 4: you should really look at whether or not that is
- 6:53Speaker 4: how you feel.
- 6:54Speaker 1: You see, her husband and I went to the same
- 6:57Speaker 1: college and had a class together. He and I dated
- 6:59Speaker 1: for like a month before I broke it off. He
- 7:02Speaker 1: tried to convince me to get back together, but I refused.
- 7:05Speaker 1: He had already met my cousin a few times and
- 7:07Speaker 1: decided to date her to make me jealous. It didn't work,
- 7:11Speaker 1: and a few months later, she became pregnant, and our
- 7:14Speaker 1: family practically forced him to marry her.
- 7:17Speaker 3: Oh, my.
- 7:18Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Okay, so there is lore here.
- 7:22Speaker 3: What a little wrinkle that is.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Yeah. To be like, she brought up something 13 years ago,
- 7:28Speaker 1: but that is also a big something. This isn't just like, oh, yeah,
- 7:33Speaker 1: you know, we had a disagreement one time. No.
- 7:36Speaker 4: No, her husband got with her to make me jealous,
- 7:38Speaker 4: and then they got pregnant and married.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Ah.
- 7:40Speaker 1: How did she know all of this? He told her.
- 7:44Speaker 1: My cousin's husband had cheated on her a few years ago,
- 7:47Speaker 1: and one day during a fight, he told her since
- 7:49Speaker 1: he couldn't have me, he had to settle for her. Oh,
- 7:54Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I could see why she acts the
- 7:57Speaker 1: way she acts now. That's a lot to deal with.
- 8:00Speaker 1: The SOB went on to tell her all about his
- 8:03Speaker 1: plans to get me back by dating her. This must
- 8:07Speaker 1: have crushed her. Now that I think about it, it
- 8:09Speaker 1: was around the same time, four years ago, that she
- 8:12Speaker 1: began pressuring me to marry and have kids. Her behavior
- 8:16Speaker 1: and her reaction makes sense now.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Oh, so she was trying to do a reverse lockdown.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:22Speaker 4: She's like, if you get married and have kids, my
- 8:24Speaker 4: husband can't leave me for you.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Oh.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Oh, girly pop, leave your husband. What are we doing?
- 8:31Speaker 1: Five kids with this man. Ugh. And he also cheated
- 8:35Speaker 1: on you and also doesn't even really like you, was
- 8:37Speaker 1: forced to marry you. Like, this is a horrible situation.
- 8:41Speaker 1: She then looked at my chocolate cake and confessed that
- 8:44Speaker 1: she had been throwing away all the cookies, cakes, etc.
- 8:47Speaker 1: I made for her kids because her oldest had once
- 8:50Speaker 1: told her that my cakes are so much better than hers.
- 8:53Speaker 1: She couldn't bear to hear her own kids praise my
- 8:56Speaker 1: cooking over hers. She feels like she's inferior to me
- 9:00Speaker 1: in every aspect. All right. little left here.
- 9:04Speaker 4: Cousin leave your man yeah leave that creature of the
- 9:08Speaker 4: black lagoon.
- 9:10Speaker 1: The trauma dump of this cousin i mean holy crap
- 9:14Speaker 1: like this was out of left field i feel so
- 9:17Speaker 1: horrible though for her she's been through a lot and
- 9:22Speaker 1: obviously not all of it was her fault.
- 9:25Speaker 4: I feel for her but like Your cousin's kids should
- 9:28Speaker 4: not be raised by the man that hates his wife.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Like, they should split. This is horrible. Yeah.
- 9:35Speaker 1: And it seems like he just, any opportunity, like, will
- 9:38Speaker 1: throw that in her face of like, oh, well, I just,
- 9:40Speaker 1: I'm only with you because I'm going to get back
- 9:42Speaker 1: with her, you know, type of thing. That's just a
- 9:44Speaker 1: horrible feeling to feel all the time. Thinking like, oh, I,
- 9:48Speaker 1: he likes me. We're in love. No, no. Not at all.
- 9:52Speaker 1: He's doing this as like a little side plot.
- 9:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:55Speaker 3: I hope Grandpa has something good to say right now.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Yeah. I hope Grandpa does. does something. I was at
- 10:01Speaker 1: a loss. My grandfather then interjected and told cousin that
- 10:05Speaker 1: her life or the way her husband treats her is
- 10:08Speaker 1: not my fault and that she should at least seek therapy. Yes, grandpa.
- 10:13Speaker 1: We have a wise grandpa.
- 10:16Speaker 3: A wise elder sage.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Yeah. She began to cry. I felt even worse. I
- 10:21Speaker 1: don't blame myself at all for her woes, but I
- 10:24Speaker 1: just have no idea how to help her.
- 10:26Speaker 3: Hey, tell her to get divorced.
- 10:28Speaker 1: But that's also super hard. I asked if she wanted
- 10:31Speaker 1: me to take the cake back or if she wanted
- 10:32Speaker 1: to give it to her kids. She took it with
- 10:35Speaker 1: a thank you. She then said she had to go
- 10:38Speaker 1: home because she had to make dinner. I had to
- 10:41Speaker 1: go home too, but my grandfather and I have agreed
- 10:43Speaker 1: to discuss this at length soon. When her husband cheated,
- 10:47Speaker 1: some of our relatives tried to get her to leave,
- 10:49Speaker 1: but she says she doesn't want to break their family,
- 10:53Speaker 1: which is very understandable. But also I think therapy, going
- 10:57Speaker 1: to therapy, screw couples therapy. This guy doesn't even like you.
- 11:01Speaker 1: I say go to individual therapy. And also if you're
- 11:03Speaker 1: going to separate from this guy, individual therapy for your
- 11:06Speaker 1: kids to figure that out as well with them. But
- 11:11Speaker 1: I think when the cousin goes into therapy, she's going
- 11:14Speaker 1: to thrive. She's going to understand more about herself, more
- 11:19Speaker 1: about the situation, not blame others. She needs to start
- 11:23Speaker 1: new and have a new mindset. And OP, that is
- 11:27Speaker 1: not your job. You can feel bad for her, but
- 11:30Speaker 1: obviously don't blame yourself and whatnot. And I don't think
- 11:32Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. But it is horrible. It's a
- 11:34Speaker 1: horrible situation. And you don't want anyone in your family,
- 11:37Speaker 1: whether you like them or not, to go through that.
- 11:39Speaker 4: It's hard.
- 11:40Speaker 1: So I'd say, OP, you're doing fine.
- 11:42Speaker 4: Your cousin, your family's going to be more broken if
- 11:45Speaker 4: you stay together. There's no way those kids are going
- 11:47Speaker 4: to have a positive male role model seeing, you know,
- 11:52Speaker 4: or not even a male role model.
- 11:53Speaker 3: It's more just like the blueprint of how a relationship
- 11:55Speaker 3: should work.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:57Speaker 4: Seeing that between you and your husband, like, I don't know. Like,
- 12:00Speaker 4: I can't imagine, you know, I can't imagine that being
- 12:03Speaker 4: better than just co-parenting.
- 12:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 12:05Speaker 1: But that's the end of that story. And we got
- 12:08Speaker 1: another one coming right up.
- 12:09Speaker 4: I refuse to pay for my granddaughter's college, even though
- 12:13Speaker 4: I have the money for it.
- 12:15Speaker 1: I don't owe her anything.
- 12:16Speaker 3: I have five beautiful grandchildren.
- 12:21Speaker 4: And when they were born, my husband and I set
- 12:23Speaker 4: up a college fund for each of them, and always
- 12:26Speaker 4: adding in money for every Christmas and birthday. My husband
- 12:29Speaker 4: and I aren't rich, but by the time each child
- 12:32Speaker 4: becomes of age, it will definitely save them on.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Some future loans.
- 12:36Speaker 4: My daughter, the mother of my first grandchild, Julie, married
- 12:40Speaker 4: a nice man, Mike, a few years after her divorce,
- 12:44Speaker 4: and he offered to help pay for Julie's future education.
- 12:48Speaker 4: Everyone was thrilled by his wonderful generosity, and because he
- 12:52Speaker 4: made a lot of money himself, my husband and I
- 12:54Speaker 4: thought nothing about handing over Julie's college fund information so
- 12:58Speaker 4: that he could contribute. My husband and I still kept
- 13:01Speaker 4: the fund in our name, and for a few years
- 13:03Speaker 4: this worked out well.
- 13:05Speaker 3: Eventually, Our daughter came to us and said that.
- 13:08Speaker 4: She wanted to open up a new account for Julie
- 13:11Speaker 4: and have us transfer all the money in there. My
- 13:14Speaker 4: husband and I were very reluctant at first, which offended
- 13:17Speaker 4: our daughter because she felt like we didn't trust her
- 13:20Speaker 4: as a parent. That's not what we intended, and we
- 13:22Speaker 4: were open to giving her half the money as a
- 13:25Speaker 4: sign of good faith. But my husband insisted that only
- 13:29Speaker 4: our daughter have control over it in case something happened.
- 13:33Speaker 4: This seemed like a reasonable request at the time. But
- 13:35Speaker 4: it made things worse, and eventually we just gave in
- 13:38Speaker 4: because our daughter told Mike, and we just couldn't take
- 13:41Speaker 4: the tension and awkwardness anymore. By the way, this comes
- 13:44Speaker 4: from a deleted user, and if you want to submit
- 13:46Speaker 4: your own stories, go to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.
- 13:49Speaker 3: I'm Dakota.
- 13:50Speaker 1: And I'm Savannah.
- 13:51Speaker 4: And we're going to read this story and have our
- 13:52Speaker 4: thoughts and give our good advice goofily, but we don't
- 13:54Speaker 4: have all the answers.
- 13:55Speaker 3: So let us know what you would do in the comments,
- 13:58Speaker 3: because we only know what we would do. And no pieces.
- 14:01Speaker 4: Now. Julie is going to be graduating next year and
- 14:04Speaker 4: wants to go to a really good private school, and
- 14:07Speaker 4: we're all so very proud of her. My husband and
- 14:10Speaker 4: I were shocked when Julie called us in tears, saying
- 14:14Speaker 4: that her mother and Mike gave away her college money.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Shocker.
- 14:21Speaker 1: I wonder what they spent it on.
- 14:23Speaker 3: How many jet skis did they buy?
- 14:25Speaker 1: The fact that it said the parents gave away her
- 14:28Speaker 1: college fund, not like spent the money, like gave it away?
- 14:31Speaker 1: Did they give it to someone else?
- 14:33Speaker 3: Yeah, did they fund someone else's college?
- 14:36Speaker 4: Did they get confused? Apparently, Mike has a brother who
- 14:40Speaker 4: was in trouble and needed some money.
- 14:42Speaker 1: There we go. So they did give it away.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always the troubled brother.
- 14:47Speaker 4: So Mike gave his brother access to Julie's account under
- 14:52Speaker 4: the promise that he'd pay it back.
- 14:55Speaker 3: He didn't.
- 14:56Speaker 4: And when Mike and my daughter threatened to take him
- 14:58Speaker 4: to court over it, Mike's brother said that it would
- 15:00Speaker 4: never hold up in court because it was a verbal
- 15:02Speaker 4: deal and that Mike technically owed him that money since
- 15:05Speaker 4: Mike never paid his brother back for a loan and
- 15:07Speaker 4: could prove it.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Horrible, horrible people.
- 15:12Speaker 4: Mike, why did you give your scumbag brother your stepdaughter's
- 15:18Speaker 4: college fund? Also, the brother's talking about a loan? Sounds
- 15:22Speaker 4: like there's stuff that you could talk about in court then, buddy.
- 15:25Speaker 4: I think it would hold up in court if you go, yeah,
- 15:28Speaker 4: I stole this money because my brother owed me for
- 15:30Speaker 4: a loan. You go, oh, you stole whose money? Because
- 15:34Speaker 4: your brother's name's not on that account, buddy.
- 15:36Speaker 3: Or wait, no, it is. Damn, they put it on both.
- 15:40Speaker 4: Ugh, Mike. My daughter and Mike are planning on suing,
- 15:44Speaker 4: but between the pandemic and possible court delays, they may
- 15:47Speaker 4: not get the money in time for Julie's freshman year.
- 15:50Speaker 4: My daughter asked us to help Julie, but we've recently
- 15:54Speaker 4: retired and don't have the money right now. My daughter
- 15:57Speaker 4: then suggested that we take money from the other accounts
- 16:00Speaker 4: and that she and Mike could pay us back with
- 16:03Speaker 4: the lawsuit money, but we simply wouldn't risk our other
- 16:07Speaker 4: grandchildren's futures. My daughter then accused us of not loving Julie,
- 16:11Speaker 4: And said that we were bad grandparents for having college
- 16:13Speaker 4: money but refusing to give it. Ooh, now I'm like, yikes.
- 16:17Speaker 4: You're getting nothing ever again. What are you talking about?
- 16:20Speaker 1: First of all, we didn't even want to give it
- 16:22Speaker 1: to you in the first place. Then when we do,
- 16:24Speaker 1: you give it away. Yeah. And then you come back
- 16:27Speaker 1: being like, well, we need you to pay for it again.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Excuse me?
- 16:30Speaker 3: I would so unkindly remind them that... Hey, how did
- 16:35Speaker 3: this happen? What started this all? Was it?
- 16:38Speaker 1: Oh, right.
- 16:39Speaker 4: Y'all demanding that all of the money be transferred to
- 16:42Speaker 4: this other account that you had access to.
- 16:45Speaker 3: And then you gave the money away.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
- 16:50Speaker 3: What?
- 16:51Speaker 4: My husband is still firm, but after a few days,
- 16:53Speaker 4: I'm starting to wonder if we're in the right. Our
- 16:55Speaker 4: second grandchild won't be of college age for at least
- 16:58Speaker 4: another five years, which could be enough time for Mike
- 17:02Speaker 4: and my daughter to pay us back.
- 17:03Speaker 3: I just don't know what to do. So I'm asking,
- 17:05Speaker 3: am I the a-hole? There is an update.
- 17:08Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't say you're the a-hole. I'd say, I
- 17:11Speaker 4: don't know your financial situation. I don't know how much
- 17:13Speaker 4: money is in these accounts. I don't know how likely
- 17:15Speaker 4: they are to get the money back from the lawsuit.
- 17:17Speaker 4: It wouldn't be fair for some other grandchild to now
- 17:20Speaker 4: not have this college money because Mike gave all the
- 17:24Speaker 4: money away to his brother, you know?
- 17:26Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like they want you to do
- 17:28Speaker 1: exactly the same thing. And guess what? They'll probably blow
- 17:31Speaker 1: it for a second time as well.
- 17:34Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Mike also made all this money. I
- 17:37Speaker 4: thought Mike made a bunch of money. Couldn't Mike have just,
- 17:40Speaker 4: I don't know, paid his brother with not Julie's college fund?
- 17:46Speaker 1: It's just the fact that you did this out of
- 17:47Speaker 1: the kindness of your heart. And we're like, oh, I'm
- 17:49Speaker 1: going to help out my grandchildren. And then they go
- 17:53Speaker 1: and blow the money. And then they're like, oh, well,
- 17:55Speaker 1: we need more. No, actually, that you should have spent
- 17:58Speaker 1: it on what it was for. You know, this is
- 18:01Speaker 1: not our fault. You were irresponsible with your money or
- 18:04Speaker 1: with our money, basically. No, it's not like, yeah, we're
- 18:08Speaker 1: not doing that again.
- 18:09Speaker 4: I think it's time for for Mike and your daughter.
- 18:13Speaker 4: I think it's time for them to take out a loan.
- 18:16Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:17Speaker 4: You know, you've probably got the credit for it. You've
- 18:19Speaker 4: probably got the income for it. Sorry that you made
- 18:22Speaker 4: a terrible mistake, but the money for the other grandchildren
- 18:26Speaker 4: is for them and it cannot go to you.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Exactly. And it sucks because you did that to your daughter.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Like nobody else did that.
- 18:34Speaker 3: You did that.
- 18:34Speaker 4: It's a really hard spot to be put in, but
- 18:37Speaker 4: it's not fair for them to put you there.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Update. Dear everyone, Thank you so much for your kind words.
- 18:44Speaker 4: I was really struggling with what to do because I
- 18:47Speaker 4: love Julie so much and hate to see her hurting.
- 18:50Speaker 4: I also showed my husband your responses and he actually
- 18:52Speaker 4: talked to our daughter on the side and told her
- 18:55Speaker 4: to take out a loan in her and Mike's name
- 18:59Speaker 4: and pay it back with the lawsuit money before I
- 19:02Speaker 4: even made this post.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Our daughter and.
- 19:04Speaker 4: Mike's refusal to do so told my husband everything he
- 19:07Speaker 4: needed to know. And that's why he remained firm in
- 19:11Speaker 4: his decision. The only reason he didn't bring it up
- 19:14Speaker 4: to me sooner was because he wanted to wait until
- 19:16Speaker 4: I was less upset.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Aw, good husband. Now, on to some good news.
- 19:21Speaker 4: Julie will still get to go to college without any loans.
- 19:25Speaker 4: It turns out David, my daughter's ex-husband and Julie's biological father,
- 19:31Speaker 4: and his parents already set up a college fund when
- 19:33Speaker 4: she entered kindergarten and was going to surprise her at graduation.
- 19:37Speaker 3: Would you look at that? Ex-husband coming in in the clutch. Wow.
- 19:44Speaker 1: To fix your mistakes.
- 19:45Speaker 3: Maybe you should have stayed married to him.
- 19:48Speaker 4: After hearing how Julie was thinking about not going to
- 19:50Speaker 4: college for a few years and how sad she was,
- 19:53Speaker 4: they decided to tell her about the money, but won't
- 19:56Speaker 4: give her the exact number until she graduates to.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Still keep it a surprise.
- 20:00Speaker 4: I was so relieved yet still hurt because her other
- 20:03Speaker 4: grandparents were able to give something that I couldn't, even
- 20:06Speaker 4: though I said I would.
- 20:08Speaker 3: But you did. You did. Yeah, that's the thing. You did.
- 20:12Speaker 3: You literally did. And then her parents, or Mike, gave
- 20:17Speaker 3: it away. This is all on Mike.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Literally, and yeah, it's all on Mike.
- 20:23Speaker 4: Julia is my first grandchild, and I took care of
- 20:26Speaker 4: her a lot when she was two years old up
- 20:28Speaker 4: until preschool. I love all my grandchildren equally, but I
- 20:31Speaker 4: do sometimes feel a little closer to her. I'm also
- 20:34Speaker 4: furious at Mike... And my daughter, because you were all right.
- 20:39Speaker 4: And it was mostly a lie.
- 20:41Speaker 3: What?
- 20:43Speaker 1: No. Oh, no.
- 20:46Speaker 3: They did the jet skis. They bought the jet skis.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Dang it.
- 20:51Speaker 4: Our daughter went around and told my other children of
- 20:55Speaker 4: the situation and tried to convince them to agree to
- 20:57Speaker 4: let Julie use the other grandchildren's money.
- 21:01Speaker 3: My son is married to a very smart accountant.
- 21:03Speaker 4: And knows some good lawyers who offered to take on
- 21:05Speaker 4: the case pro bono as a favor to her.
- 21:08Speaker 3: Mike insisted that he.
- 21:10Speaker 4: Had his own lawyer, and that's when the lies began
- 21:13Speaker 4: to slowly come out. To keep it short, Mike really
- 21:17Speaker 4: does have a brother named James, who really did take
- 21:21Speaker 4: some money and refused to pay it back, but it
- 21:23Speaker 4: was only $ 500?
- 21:24Speaker 1: Wow!
- 21:24Speaker 3: Divorce! Yeah. Goodbye, Mike.
- 21:26Speaker 1: See you never. What?
- 21:32Speaker 3: The family was livid. I'm livid.
- 21:34Speaker 4: My husband, son, David, and I all went over to
- 21:37Speaker 4: demand the rest of the money. After a lot of pressure,
- 21:42Speaker 4: Mike admitted that he took the rest of the money
- 21:44Speaker 4: in an attempt to invest it in some new form
- 21:46Speaker 4: of electric currency type of thing.
- 21:49Speaker 1: He did not put it into Bitcoin.
- 21:51Speaker 3: No, he didn't. Wait, hold on a second.
- 21:54Speaker 4: Depending on when this post was made, that could have
- 21:57Speaker 4: been maybe the smartest move of all time. Bitcoin, crypto.
- 22:02Speaker 4: Because electric currency, yeah, that's Bitcoin. That's a grandma talking
- 22:07Speaker 4: about Bitcoin. David had to explain to me and my
- 22:10Speaker 4: husband that they were basically invisible coins.
- 22:14Speaker 3: And I lost it.
- 22:15Speaker 4: All my life I've been raised to always maintain my
- 22:17Speaker 4: composure in public and that ladies never use foul language.
- 22:20Speaker 3: But on that day, I cursed worse than a sailor.
- 22:25Speaker 1: If you make a grandma curse, you're in the wrong already.
- 22:29Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
- 22:31Speaker 3: Again, I gotta look at the timeline of this.
- 22:33Speaker 4: I didn't even realize it until my son grabbed me,
- 22:35Speaker 4: but I had a full meltdown. My face was flushed
- 22:38Speaker 4: with a different color, my mascara was running, and my
- 22:41Speaker 4: neatly combed hair was now a mess. My husband and
- 22:44Speaker 4: son took me back to the car while David, Mike,
- 22:46Speaker 4: and my daughter all had a talk. Julie will be
- 22:48Speaker 4: moving in with her father since her high school classes
- 22:51Speaker 4: are online.
- 22:52Speaker 3: I told my.
- 22:52Speaker 4: Daughter that while I still love her, I was deeply
- 22:55Speaker 4: disappointed and needed to go a few days without speaking
- 22:58Speaker 4: to her. I also made it clear that while her
- 23:00Speaker 4: marriage is her business, I no longer consider Mike family.
- 23:04Speaker 1: Dang.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. You're invisible coins. You're invisible electric currency.
- 23:10Speaker 1: You're an invisible family member.
- 23:12Speaker 3: I gotta look at this right now.
- 23:13Speaker 1: When it was posted?
- 23:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to find this.
- 23:16Speaker 4: Hold on. I need to figure out if this guy
- 23:18Speaker 4: made the most genius investment he could have possibly made.
- 23:22Speaker 4: If this is like 2014, 2015, this guy is now
- 23:27Speaker 4: worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
- 23:29Speaker 3: Please.
- 23:31Speaker 4: Okay, it's six years ago, 2020, which is right before
- 23:35Speaker 4: another giant pop.
- 23:40Speaker 3: Uh-oh, he kind of was right. He was right.
- 23:44Speaker 1: But that was a gamble on your daughter's college fund.
- 23:47Speaker 3: It was. It very much was.
- 23:49Speaker 4: But if they hold the course on that, that money
- 23:54Speaker 4: multiplied very handsomely.
- 23:57Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still going to be pissed.
- 24:00Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the basic premise of taking your stepdaughter's
- 24:05Speaker 4: college fund to make an investment right before she goes
- 24:09Speaker 4: to college?
- 24:10Speaker 3: Yeah, that's still a scumbag thing to do. However, it
- 24:13Speaker 3: made a lot of money. You should have used your
- 24:15Speaker 3: own money, Mike.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Yes, but it also made a lot of money way
- 24:18Speaker 1: down the line. Well... How long would that take?
- 24:22Speaker 4: It popped really hard in 2020. After 2020, popped super hard. Anyway,
- 24:29Speaker 4: but still, scumbag move.
- 24:31Speaker 1: Investment good, morals incorrect.
- 24:33Speaker 4: My daughter claims she didn't know what Mike was doing
- 24:36Speaker 4: until it was too late and was too embarrassed to
- 24:38Speaker 4: admit the truth to us. I would like to believe her,
- 24:41Speaker 4: but right now I'm not sure. I hope he gave
- 24:43Speaker 4: all that investment money to.
- 24:46Speaker 3: Julie, right?
- 24:47Speaker 1: Yeah, you should.
- 24:48Speaker 3: She should be getting a sizable chunk of that.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Yeah, all of that and more.
- 24:52Speaker 3: And give some to grandma. Spread it around, right?
- 24:56Speaker 4: However, Julie can still go to college straight after high
- 24:59Speaker 4: school as planned without any debt. and is even considering
- 25:03Speaker 4: going to online community college to save money. Her other
- 25:06Speaker 4: grandparents told her what she didn't use for college she
- 25:08Speaker 4: could keep for herself. I'm so proud of her, and
- 25:11Speaker 4: I'm so relieved that she doesn't blame us for what
- 25:13Speaker 4: Mike did, and wouldn't want us to take money away
- 25:16Speaker 4: from her cousins.
- 25:17Speaker 3: That's the full story, people. Please learn from my mistake. P.S.
- 25:21Speaker 4: I ruined my reputation as the sweet, fun grandma, and
- 25:24Speaker 4: now I'm crazy yelling grandma.
- 25:26Speaker 3: Aww. Crazy yelling grandma.
- 25:28Speaker 4: All zooted up over invisible coins and electric currency.
- 25:33Speaker 1: I would also be pretty pissed and yelly.
- 25:36Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's a very reasonable thing to be pissed
- 25:38Speaker 4: and yelly about. You took my granddaughter's college fund and
- 25:42Speaker 4: you turned it into invisible money.
- 25:44Speaker 3: What? You also have to understand she's older.
- 25:48Speaker 1: Yeah, she don't. She don't know. I don't even know.
- 25:50Speaker 3: So to her, that's like you just burned all of
- 25:52Speaker 3: that money.
- 25:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:54Speaker 3: And turned it into nothing.
- 25:56Speaker 1: It never said the amount, right?
- 25:57Speaker 3: No.
- 25:58Speaker 1: I would assume it's thousands.
- 25:59Speaker 4: The only way this guy could end up being okay,
- 26:02Speaker 4: which again, still a scumbag move to pull, he needs
- 26:05Speaker 4: to take all of the money that he made from
- 26:08Speaker 4: that investment, needs to repay the full cost of the
- 26:12Speaker 4: college fund to grandma. He needs to give the full
- 26:16Speaker 4: cost of the college fund to Julie as well. Let
- 26:21Speaker 4: me check the chart. Let me see how much his
- 26:24Speaker 4: investment would have multiplied theoretically.
- 26:26Speaker 1: Well, let's say like 5K.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Like he put in 5K?
- 26:30Speaker 1: Yeah, like he put in 5K.
- 26:31Speaker 3: Let's call it 20. Oh, he put in 20K.
- 26:33Speaker 1: Oh, God. So in 2020, in let's call it March 2020, 6,500. 6,500.
- 26:36Speaker 4: In October of 2021, 62,000. So that's almost 10x. And
- 26:52Speaker 4: then if you go forward to 2025, 94,000. So a very, very,
- 27:01Speaker 4: very good investment. But you need to repay the right people.
- 27:05Speaker 1: But it just wasn't your money.
- 27:06Speaker 4: It just wasn't your money. So still a scumbag move.
- 27:09Speaker 4: But my goodness.
- 27:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 27:11Speaker 1: That is life changing money.
- 27:13Speaker 4: And it's now actually it's down. It was over 100,000.
- 27:17Speaker 4: It was at $ 123, 000 in September of last year, but
- 27:22Speaker 4: it has gone down to $ 68, 000.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Dang. Big, big decrease.
- 27:26Speaker 4: Yes.
- 27:26Speaker 3: Volatile currency.
- 27:28Speaker 4: But yeah, could have theoretically made a stupid amount of
- 27:32Speaker 4: money off of that because, yeah, if you basically 20x.
- 27:36Speaker 3: That, that's $ 400, 000.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Okay.
- 27:37Speaker 4: So not the dumbest move, but also still a scumbag move. Anyway,
- 27:43Speaker 4: I was messing around with that stuff when it was
- 27:44Speaker 4: worth like $ 150.
- 27:45Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 27:47Speaker 4: And for nefarious purposes, of course, as one did back
- 27:51Speaker 4: in the day. But it used to trip me out.
- 27:53Speaker 4: I couldn't listen to anyone talk about Bitcoin or crypto
- 27:57Speaker 4: because I would think about how much money I could
- 28:01Speaker 4: have theoretically had if I had just taken it more seriously.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Yeah, like learned about it and everything?
- 28:06Speaker 4: Yeah, because I was just like, oh, this is just
- 28:08Speaker 4: the weird internet money you use.
- 28:10Speaker 3: To buy Bitcoin.
- 28:14Speaker 4: Illegal things, but turns out I could have been worth
- 28:16Speaker 4: a hundred million dollars. But I relaxed on that when
- 28:19Speaker 4: I realized I definitely.
- 28:20Speaker 3: Would have just sold it way early.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:22Speaker 4: Like as soon as it went to like a thousand dollars,
- 28:25Speaker 4: I probably would have sold it.
- 28:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 28:27Speaker 4: So I would have, that would have never happened. And
- 28:29Speaker 4: I've made peace with that. Anyway, that is the end
- 28:30Speaker 4: of that story. That's a little peek into my life
- 28:32Speaker 4: as a teen. Um, and we have another story coming up.
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- 28:43Speaker 1: My brother disappeared with my dog and lied for weeks
- 28:47Speaker 1: about it.
- 28:47Speaker 3: Somebody call the Paw Patrol on this man.
- 28:51Speaker 1: About two years ago, my brother, 31 male, begged my mom,
- 28:55Speaker 1: 49 female, to let him keep a dog in the house.
- 28:59Speaker 1: She refused because she knows how irresponsible he is. I,
- 29:02Speaker 1: 24 female, also didn't want a dog because I knew
- 29:05Speaker 1: I would end up taking care of it. He ended
- 29:08Speaker 1: up going behind her back and buying a dog anyway. Ugh. Listen,
- 29:13Speaker 1: I love animals as much as the next person, but
- 29:15Speaker 1: I know when to get them and when not to.
- 29:19Speaker 1: And you should not in this situation.
- 29:23Speaker 3: No.
- 29:24Speaker 1: My mom and I were really irritated at first, but
- 29:27Speaker 1: eventually we both fell in love with the dog. Yeah.
- 29:30Speaker 1: My brother paid attention to the dog for about a
- 29:32Speaker 1: month and then got over her. So, of course, like
- 29:35Speaker 1: I knew would happen, I ended up having to take
- 29:37Speaker 1: care of her. Honestly, I started considering her mind since
- 29:41Speaker 1: I was the one doing everything for her and my
- 29:44Speaker 1: brother rarely ever paid any attention to her. I got
- 29:47Speaker 1: extremely attached to her and she would even sleep in
- 29:49Speaker 1: my bed with me. That was my dog. When we
- 29:53Speaker 1: first got my dog, all the animals loved me when
- 29:57Speaker 1: I first got them.
- 29:58Speaker 3: Because they're like, When they first meet you. Yeah.
- 30:02Speaker 1: When they first meet.
- 30:02Speaker 3: Well, and then they get to know you and they're.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Like, no, then my mom walks or takes care of her,
- 30:09Speaker 1: all this stuff. I mean, I would also do that,
- 30:11Speaker 1: but obviously my mom took over. She was the best
- 30:15Speaker 1: part of my day. Last Friday I got home and
- 30:17Speaker 1: she was nowhere to be found. I called my mom
- 30:20Speaker 1: in a panic to ask her where the dog was.
- 30:22Speaker 1: And she ended up telling me that my brother had
- 30:24Speaker 1: taken her to the vet. I found this extremely odd,
- 30:27Speaker 1: as he had never bothered to take her anywhere before.
- 30:31Speaker 1: He claimed to have taken her to get neutered. First
- 30:34Speaker 1: of all, girls don't get neutered, girls get spayed.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Right?
- 30:38Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting. So he claimed to have taken her to
- 30:41Speaker 1: get spayed, but whenever I asked for more information, he
- 30:46Speaker 1: would just get extremely defensive and say that the vets
- 30:49Speaker 1: hadn't told him anything. By the way, this comes from EmptyP3798.
- 30:54Speaker 1: And if you want to spend your own stories, go
- 30:55Speaker 1: to the r slash ok story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
- 30:58Speaker 3: I'm Dakota.
- 30:59Speaker 1: And we're here to talk about some stuff, give some advice,
- 31:01Speaker 1: but we don't have all your answers. We are going
- 31:03Speaker 1: to tell you what we would do, but you should
- 31:05Speaker 1: let us know what you would do down in the comments.
- 31:07Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I would do if I was
- 31:08Speaker 3: that guy.
- 31:09Speaker 4: I would know the difference between being spayed and neutered,
- 31:11Speaker 4: so when I lied about taking the dog to the vet,
- 31:14Speaker 4: I wouldn't get caught.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Yeah, immediately I'd be like, oh, you mean spayed? He'd
- 31:17Speaker 1: be like, what's that?
- 31:18Speaker 3: Why are you lying about the dog?
- 31:21Speaker 1: Jail.
- 31:21Speaker 3: Go to jail. Send you to jail. Call the Paw Patrol.
- 31:24Speaker 3: Send this man to jail.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Paw Patrol, as Opie says, it has been a week
- 31:29Speaker 1: now since the last time I saw her, and he
- 31:31Speaker 1: is still claiming that the vet hasn't called to let
- 31:34Speaker 1: him know any information about how the dog is doing.
- 31:36Speaker 3: That is.
- 31:37Speaker 4: No.
- 31:37Speaker 3: Complete lie. No!
- 31:38Speaker 1: It takes, like, a couple hours, not even, to have that,
- 31:43Speaker 1: you know, surgery done.
- 31:44Speaker 4: I'm upset at everyone in this story for not understanding
- 31:48Speaker 4: that this is so blatantly not true.
- 31:50Speaker 3: Unless.
- 31:52Speaker 1: There were complications, but the thing is, you would.
- 31:55Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it wouldn't be. This is the most obvious
- 31:58Speaker 3: lie of all time.
- 31:59Speaker 4: I can't believe you let a week go by and
- 32:01Speaker 4: this guy is just stealing your dog.
- 32:02Speaker 1: No, I would let a day. Maybe we ended up
- 32:07Speaker 1: getting into an argument about it because I asked him
- 32:10Speaker 1: what he took her to so I could call them
- 32:12Speaker 1: for info. But he just gets extremely angry and starts
- 32:15Speaker 1: yelling at me to let the vets do their job.
- 32:18Speaker 1: He told me that it was his dog in the
- 32:20Speaker 1: first place and that he could do whatever he wanted
- 32:22Speaker 1: with her. I don't want to think the worst, but
- 32:25Speaker 1: I'm almost sure that he sold her because he needed
- 32:28Speaker 1: money for his substance habit. No, no, I hope not.
- 32:33Speaker 4: Jail, so super jail. Send him to the biggest super
- 32:37Speaker 4: jail of all time. Send him to the jail they
- 32:39Speaker 4: put all the villains in in Batman.
- 32:42Speaker 3: Send him to Arkham.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Something to note is that currently I'm the one paying
- 32:47Speaker 1: all of the rent, bills, etc. My mom lost her
- 32:49Speaker 1: job last year and has not been able to find
- 32:51Speaker 1: a new one, so I have been the one paying
- 32:53Speaker 1: for everything. My brother is a lazy mooch who sleeps
- 32:57Speaker 1: on the living room couch and hasn't been able to
- 32:59Speaker 1: hold a job down for years. I was super upset
- 33:02Speaker 1: about this whole situation, and I told my mom that
- 33:05Speaker 1: if he does not bring the dog back from wherever
- 33:08Speaker 1: he took her, I'm going to throw him out of
- 33:10Speaker 1: the apartment. She got angry and told me that I
- 33:12Speaker 1: didn't have the right to do that. I told her
- 33:14Speaker 1: that I did have the right since my name is
- 33:17Speaker 1: on the lease and I'm the one paying for everything. Yeah,
- 33:19Speaker 1: that's definitely your right.
- 33:20Speaker 4: The way this man would be so beat up, like
- 33:24Speaker 4: I can't even pretend. This is an Old West justice
- 33:28Speaker 4: type of situation.
- 33:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:30Speaker 1: My brother overheard the conversation and is now angry that
- 33:34Speaker 1: I would throw him out and possibly make him homeless
- 33:37Speaker 1: over a dog. My mom called me a heartless a-hole
- 33:40Speaker 1: for choosing a dog over my own brother. Am I
- 33:43Speaker 1: the a-hole for saying my brother has to leave if
- 33:44Speaker 1: he doesn't bring the dog back? No.
- 33:47Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what. Your dog's not going to
- 33:50Speaker 3: sell your brother to somebody.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Yeah. And also, one, he wasn't taking care of it. Two,
- 33:56Speaker 1: he doesn't contribute at all to the house. And three,
- 34:00Speaker 1: he has a substance problem. Yeah, no, he's out. Like,
- 34:05Speaker 1: for sure out. And you haven't worked... Another four? You
- 34:09Speaker 1: haven't worked in years? What's wrong with you? And then
- 34:11Speaker 1: you're gonna sell the dog? I hope that's not true.
- 34:14Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a guy who needs.
- 34:17Speaker 1: Help.
- 34:18Speaker 3: To have his ass kicked. Sorry.
- 34:20Speaker 1: Edit. My brother is now claiming that they sent her
- 34:25Speaker 1: to a hospital two hours away from us because she
- 34:28Speaker 1: needed knee surgery?
- 34:30Speaker 3: My face when knee surgery is tomorrow.
- 34:34Speaker 1: And that his friend... Who originally sold him the dog
- 34:37Speaker 1: is going to be taking care of her during recovery.
- 34:40Speaker 1: And that will get her back once she is healed. Honestly,
- 34:43Speaker 1: I don't know what to believe at this point. Edit
- 34:46Speaker 1: number two. So I took the advice that some of
- 34:48Speaker 1: you gave and started calling local vet clinics and shelters.
- 34:51Speaker 1: And so far, none have seen my dog. I also
- 34:54Speaker 1: printed out posters and not only posted them in my area,
- 34:57Speaker 1: but I also drove out to the city he claims
- 35:00Speaker 1: she is receiving knee surgery at and put some flies
- 35:03Speaker 1: around there. As for my brother... He ended up getting
- 35:06Speaker 1: pissed about the flyers and we got into an argument
- 35:08Speaker 1: again over the fact that he won't give me the
- 35:11Speaker 1: info about what clinic my dog is supposedly at. I
- 35:14Speaker 1: told him if my dog is not back by Friday,
- 35:17Speaker 1: he is not staying with me anymore. He got really
- 35:19Speaker 1: upset and left the apartment and has not come back.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Edit number three. I have no idea how to do
- 35:25Speaker 1: an update on here, but there's really not much to tell.
- 35:28Speaker 1: My brother left about a week ago and he hasn't
- 35:30Speaker 1: come back. I was never able to locate my dog,
- 35:33Speaker 1: but according to my mom, who was still in contact
- 35:35Speaker 1: with my brother, he keeps telling her that I'll get
- 35:38Speaker 1: my dog back when she recovers. And there are some comments.
- 35:42Speaker 1: Where is this dog?
- 35:44Speaker 4: I got nothing left to say. This man needs to
- 35:47Speaker 4: meet my friend Pete. I got Pete, and then I
- 35:50Speaker 4: got repeat over here.
- 35:51Speaker 3: That's what I got. That's an oldie but goodie.
- 35:56Speaker 1: There are some comments. What made you suspicious that your
- 35:59Speaker 1: brother's story about the vet wasn't true? OP responds, that's
- 36:02Speaker 1: what I thought. I knew he was lying as soon
- 36:05Speaker 1: as he said she was going to have to stay
- 36:07Speaker 1: for two weeks. Another commenter says, what did your brother
- 36:10Speaker 1: tell you about where the dog was being treated? OP responds,
- 36:14Speaker 1: I asked for it the Friday that he took her
- 36:17Speaker 1: and he did tell me it was an animal hospital
- 36:20Speaker 1: that is like eight minutes away from our house. But
- 36:22Speaker 1: now apparently she's in a hospital in another city and
- 36:26Speaker 1: he won't say what it's called.
- 36:28Speaker 4: And is your mom's just like chill with that? Your
- 36:31Speaker 4: mom is just like, it's fine. It's just a dog.
- 36:34Speaker 4: It's like beyond that, it's like this guy's behavior is disturbing.
- 36:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Did your brother even have the means to take your
- 36:43Speaker 1: dog to another hospital? OP responds, no, he does not
- 36:46Speaker 1: have money at all or even a car. So I
- 36:49Speaker 1: don't know how he is claiming that she was moved
- 36:51Speaker 1: to another hospital, especially since he has been home all
- 36:54Speaker 1: week since she disappeared. He hasn't left the house at all.
- 36:58Speaker 1: Where's this dog? It's freaking me out now. I don't
- 37:00Speaker 1: like this at all. Where's this dog?
- 37:02Speaker 4: No, I'm getting I'm rounding up a posse. We are
- 37:05Speaker 4: hog tying this guy and putting him on the train
- 37:08Speaker 4: tracks until he tells us where the dog's at.
- 37:11Speaker 3: We are now in the Old West.
- 37:13Speaker 1: Another commenter says, what happened when you contacted the animal
- 37:15Speaker 1: hospital your brother originally named? OP says, honestly, I was
- 37:19Speaker 1: hesitant to call it first because I wasn't sure they
- 37:21Speaker 1: would be able to give me any information if the
- 37:23Speaker 1: dog wasn't under my name. And if my brother found
- 37:26Speaker 1: out I was going behind his back, he would get
- 37:28Speaker 1: pissed and I wanted to avoid that. But I ended
- 37:31Speaker 1: up calling earlier and they pretty much confirmed that they
- 37:34Speaker 1: did not treat my dog. Where is she? Another commenter said,
- 37:38Speaker 1: had you already offered to pay your brother whatever he
- 37:41Speaker 1: wanted if he would return the dog? OP responds, that's
- 37:44Speaker 1: another issue. As soon as my mom told me he
- 37:47Speaker 1: had taken her to the vet, I knew it was
- 37:49Speaker 1: fishy and didn't believe anything that He told me I
- 37:52Speaker 1: got upset and told him to bring the dog back
- 37:54Speaker 1: and I would buy her from him for whatever amount
- 37:56Speaker 1: of money he wanted. He got mad and yelled at
- 37:59Speaker 1: me that he wasn't selling her, that he can do
- 38:02Speaker 1: what he wants, and that I have to stop acting
- 38:04Speaker 1: like she's mine because she's not.
- 38:06Speaker 3: Update.
- 38:07Speaker 1: After 15 days.
- 38:10Speaker 3: Hey, Keon here. We're going to get back to the stories,
- 38:12Speaker 3: but here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Okay, I really hope. That this dog is found and healthy.
- 38:19Speaker 3: This dog's going to be fine. I hope it bites
- 38:20Speaker 3: this guy's sack.
- 38:23Speaker 1: Clean off. All right. Update after 15 days.
- 38:26Speaker 4: Well.
- 38:28Speaker 1: As many of you can probably guess, it has been
- 38:30Speaker 1: two weeks since my dog disappeared, and I haven't gotten
- 38:32Speaker 1: her back.
- 38:33Speaker 3: No! Good! I'm so mad at your brother!
- 38:38Speaker 4: I just saw the Anthony Bourdain movie yesterday, and the
- 38:42Speaker 4: one thing I took away from that movie is that
- 38:45Speaker 4: being a complete loser is an active choice that you
- 38:49Speaker 4: choose to make. Your brother is choosing to be a
- 38:53Speaker 4: complete loser.
- 38:55Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a choice, by the way. I did
- 38:58Speaker 1: what a lot of you suggested to try and find her.
- 39:01Speaker 1: I called animal shelters, clinics, and hospitals around my area,
- 39:04Speaker 1: but I had no luck with them. I also posted
- 39:07Speaker 1: flyers around my city and the city an hour away
- 39:09Speaker 1: from where my brother claimed she was getting knee surgery.
- 39:12Speaker 1: I haven't heard back about that either. After my brother
- 39:14Speaker 1: found out, I posted the flyers, he got extremely upset,
- 39:17Speaker 1: and we got into a pretty heated argument. He left
- 39:19Speaker 1: the apartment, and as of now, he's no longer living here,
- 39:22Speaker 1: and he hasn't tried to come back as far as
- 39:24Speaker 1: I know. My mom was upset at first, but I
- 39:26Speaker 1: guess she decided not to argue with the person she's
- 39:28Speaker 1: depending on for money.
- 39:30Speaker 4: Yeah smart move looks like the smarts don't go down
- 39:34Speaker 4: from your mom to your.
- 39:35Speaker 1: Brother my brother never ended up telling me the truth
- 39:38Speaker 1: about what happened my mom is keeping in contact with
- 39:41Speaker 1: him through the phone and she did tell me that
- 39:43Speaker 1: he is still keeping up with the lie Apparently, they
- 39:46Speaker 1: were talking yesterday, and he told her again that I
- 39:49Speaker 1: would get my dog back after she recovers.
- 39:51Speaker 4: Okay, at this point, dude, you need to be posting
- 39:54Speaker 4: on every page that you can, on every social media platform,
- 40:00Speaker 4: anywhere where people have bought dogs, or it'd be like,
- 40:03Speaker 4: somebody sold my dog, and it wasn't theirs to sell.
- 40:06Speaker 3: If you know anything about this dog, please contact me.
- 40:09Speaker 3: I will pay you.
- 40:10Speaker 1: Yeah. No, for real. For real.
- 40:12Speaker 3: Like, blast it everywhere. Flyers around town.
- 40:15Speaker 4: You know this guy sold it to somebody pretty close
- 40:17Speaker 4: by because he's a scumbag.
- 40:19Speaker 3: He probably walked around the corner and sold it to somebody.
- 40:21Speaker 3: So put up flyers all over the neighborhood. It's time
- 40:25Speaker 3: to go to work. Yeah.
- 40:26Speaker 1: I honestly wasn't going to make an update because there
- 40:29Speaker 1: wasn't much left to say. But then today I got
- 40:31Speaker 1: home and found out my mom threw away all of
- 40:34Speaker 1: my dog's toys from Her food bowls, her bed, and
- 40:37Speaker 1: the bag of dog food she never finished. Oh my god! Oh,
- 40:41Speaker 1: they gave me the chills! Where is this dog? I'm like,
- 40:44Speaker 1: I'm panicking now. I don't like this at all. So
- 40:48Speaker 1: I guess that's that. I really wish I had a
- 40:50Speaker 1: happier update to give you guys. Comments. One comment says,
- 40:55Speaker 1: what kind of dog was she? OP responds, she's a
- 40:57Speaker 1: tiny deer head chihuahua. Aww. And I've never heard of
- 41:02Speaker 1: dog fighting being a problem where I am, but I
- 41:05Speaker 1: honestly don't know.
- 41:06Speaker 4: Okay, well, I got good news for you, OP. No
- 41:08Speaker 4: one's dog fighting with a chihuahua.
- 41:09Speaker 1: It's true. Unless they're really weird. Those aren't usually fighting dogs. Oh, God.
- 41:16Speaker 1: Another commenter says, what happened with your brother after he
- 41:19Speaker 1: left the apartment? OP responds, as far as I know,
- 41:21Speaker 1: my brother is homeless now. And after a talk with
- 41:24Speaker 1: my mom and a lot of arguing, she finally has
- 41:27Speaker 1: a full-time job again. So she's going to start paying
- 41:29Speaker 1: her half of everything.
- 41:30Speaker 3: Thank goodness.
- 41:31Speaker 1: Yeah, I threw all of his stuff out after he
- 41:34Speaker 1: left and I assume he came and picked it up
- 41:36Speaker 1: because it was gone by the next morning. Definitely changed
- 41:39Speaker 1: my locks and let my mom know if she ever
- 41:41Speaker 1: lets him in for whatever reason, she can be next. Dang.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Another commenter says, why do you think your mother continues
- 41:48Speaker 1: to defend your brother? OP responds, I don't know what
- 41:51Speaker 1: her relationship with him is about. I swear she would
- 41:54Speaker 1: let him get away with unaliving things. I think it's
- 41:58Speaker 1: partly because she's scared of him and doesn't know how
- 42:01Speaker 1: he'll react if things don't go the way he wants
- 42:03Speaker 1: them to. She's told me before that I'm never going
- 42:06Speaker 1: to understand until I have children and I know what
- 42:09Speaker 1: it feels like to love someone unconditionally.
- 42:12Speaker 3: You don't get it because you're not a boy mom.
- 42:14Speaker 4: When you're a mother, you let your child get away
- 42:17Speaker 4: with anything because that's just what you do.
- 42:21Speaker 3: Hmm. How did that turn out for him? Is he
- 42:25Speaker 3: in a great place right now?
- 42:26Speaker 1: He's literally homeless on the streets. Probably still with a
- 42:28Speaker 1: substance problem. And a liar. And a thief. I think
- 42:32Speaker 1: they both need therapy. Another commenter says, why haven't you
- 42:35Speaker 1: called the police about your missing dog? OP responds, honestly,
- 42:39Speaker 1: I've been hesitant to call the police because I have
- 42:41Speaker 1: had bad experiences with them and I don't really like
- 42:44Speaker 1: dealing with them. I think if my brother continues with
- 42:46Speaker 1: his lies, I'm going to call and not only report him,
- 42:50Speaker 1: but also his friend... who is supposedly taking care of
- 42:54Speaker 1: the dog until she recovers. Maybe that will scare him
- 42:57Speaker 1: enough to tell me the truth. Update two. All right,
- 43:01Speaker 1: I'm really, really, really hoping that you have found the dog.
- 43:05Speaker 1: She is okay. She doesn't, like, none of the surgery
- 43:09Speaker 1: was real. She's fine, healthy, whatever. Please be a happy ending, please.
- 43:15Speaker 4: Could you imagine if all this was true, the dog
- 43:17Speaker 4: really did have to get, like, helicopter lifted to another
- 43:20Speaker 4: facility to get emergency knee surgery and recover.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Like a chihuahua.
- 43:24Speaker 3: And the brother's like, I'm going to pay for all
- 43:25Speaker 3: of it.
- 43:26Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the other thing. Who's paying for the bed bills?
- 43:28Speaker 4: I secretly, I have a stash of gold I've kept
- 43:30Speaker 4: hidden from you and I'm using it to pay for
- 43:32Speaker 4: your dog's knee surgery.
- 43:34Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be something?
- 43:35Speaker 1: This is like in Billy Madison when they read The
- 43:39Speaker 1: Puppy Who Lost His Way. And then he goes, I
- 43:41Speaker 1: don't like how they just gave up. Gave up after
- 43:44Speaker 1: like an hour of looking. You know, that's not a
- 43:46Speaker 1: good owner. There is a second update here. After six
- 43:50Speaker 1: days from the last post, I found out the truth. Okay, okay. Apparently,
- 43:56Speaker 1: my brother had already been planning to move in with
- 43:58Speaker 1: his friend about two months ago. He wanted to take
- 44:01Speaker 1: the dog with him when he left, but he knew
- 44:04Speaker 1: I would get mad and wouldn't let him, so he
- 44:05Speaker 1: waited until a day I was at work to take
- 44:08Speaker 1: the dog to his new place. My dog has been
- 44:11Speaker 1: at his new place with my brother's friend this whole time.
- 44:15Speaker 1: So she could get used to the new environment.
- 44:18Speaker 3: Hey, maybe, um, maybe not a new environment because you're
- 44:21Speaker 3: not taking my dog.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Also, just why did you even get the dog? What's
- 44:25Speaker 1: the dog for?
- 44:25Speaker 3: And now we call the police, right? Now we call
- 44:27Speaker 3: the police. We know where the dog is.
- 44:29Speaker 4: It's at his stupid friend's house. Go get the dog
- 44:31Speaker 4: back from your stupid brother and his stupid friend.
- 44:34Speaker 1: I just found all this out this morning. Now that
- 44:38Speaker 1: I know he definitely still has the dog, I'm going
- 44:40Speaker 1: to be filing a report with the police because I'm
- 44:43Speaker 1: getting my dog back no matter what. According to my mom,
- 44:46Speaker 1: she didn't know about any of this until my brother
- 44:49Speaker 1: told her yesterday. I don't know if I should believe her.
- 44:52Speaker 1: There's a little bit left here. Oh, thank God you
- 44:54Speaker 1: found this dog. I was so I was going to
- 44:57Speaker 1: be so upset.
- 44:57Speaker 3: Yeah, dude.
- 44:58Speaker 4: And it's time. It's time to move out. Mom's got
- 45:00Speaker 4: a job. She can find her own place. Don't live
- 45:03Speaker 4: with her. If you're at a point where you're like,
- 45:04Speaker 4: I don't know if I can believe my mom didn't
- 45:07Speaker 4: know this the whole time. You're like distraught and upset
- 45:10Speaker 4: about it. She threw out all the dog stuff. It
- 45:13Speaker 4: sounds like your mom doesn't like the dog either.
- 45:15Speaker 3: Yeah. So move out. Get away from these people. They're scum.
- 45:19Speaker 1: Yeah, they're toxic. And they sitting there and like lying
- 45:22Speaker 1: to you while you're actively like going insane, like trying
- 45:24Speaker 1: to find this dog. That's not family. That's not friends.
- 45:27Speaker 1: That's not love. No, screw these people. They are done.
- 45:30Speaker 1: They are out. There are some comments. Throwaway Unknown 55 says, OK,
- 45:35Speaker 1: hang on a sec. Have you actually seen the dog?
- 45:38Speaker 1: OP responds. Yes. Sorry, I didn't add that. I was
- 45:41Speaker 1: typing in a rush. I have seen the dog with
- 45:43Speaker 1: my own eyes and he definitely has her. I have
- 45:46Speaker 1: already offered money and he refused. I can try offering more,
- 45:49Speaker 1: but I don't know why he's being so stubborn about
- 45:51Speaker 1: giving her back since he never cared for her before.
- 45:54Speaker 1: I feel like because him and his friend are involved
- 45:57Speaker 1: with substances, threatening him with the police will work. But
- 46:01Speaker 1: I'll have to wait and see. And honestly, my mom
- 46:03Speaker 1: can side with whoever she wants. They're both broke, so
- 46:06Speaker 1: I doubt they want to deal with a legal case.
- 46:08Speaker 3: Dang.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Fethington. Says, threaten him with legal action. I also refuse
- 46:13Speaker 1: to believe your mom had no idea what was going on.
- 46:16Speaker 1: It sounds like he might be the golden child. Opie responds, yeah,
- 46:20Speaker 1: I am going to take legal action. Pretty sure my
- 46:23Speaker 1: mom did know and she probably ended up giving all
- 46:25Speaker 1: of the dog's items to my brother while I was
- 46:27Speaker 1: at work. I mean, as far as I know, I
- 46:29Speaker 1: know no one in the family can stand my brother.
- 46:32Speaker 1: He's been thrown out of every single house and isn't
- 46:36Speaker 1: invited to any family get togethers. My mom is the
- 46:39Speaker 1: only one that always defends him, even though she's been
- 46:42Speaker 1: accused of some effed up crap by his own family.
- 46:46Speaker 1: I don't know why she forgives him after everything.
- 46:50Speaker 4: Yeah. Because her brain is broken. She's got boy mom brain.
- 46:54Speaker 4: Her brain is fried.
- 46:55Speaker 1: She's just not in the right. I mean, and she
- 46:58Speaker 1: never will be. This seems like a new low for him.
- 47:02Speaker 1: And even if she's been like if he's been in
- 47:04Speaker 1: worse lows, you know, it's like, what is she doing
- 47:07Speaker 1: to help him? Be like, no, no, no. Yeah, get
- 47:10Speaker 1: a dog. And here's the stuff to care for it.
- 47:13Speaker 1: Keep using your substances. Don't get a job.
- 47:15Speaker 3: She's probably like, it'll be good for him. He'll have
- 47:18Speaker 3: something he has to take care of. It's like newsflash, genius.
- 47:21Speaker 3: He's just going to neglect the dog.
- 47:23Speaker 1: Exactly. It's just going to poop and pee all over
- 47:26Speaker 1: the house. And, you know, them doing substances in the
- 47:29Speaker 1: house doesn't, 100%, they are doing substances in the house.
- 47:33Speaker 1: It is that house. what they're doing so they're doing
- 47:36Speaker 1: it around the dog in front of the dog probably
- 47:38Speaker 1: having the dog do something I don't know probably think
- 47:40Speaker 1: it's funny I just no he's done no contact get
- 47:44Speaker 1: the dog legal action no contact next get your mom
- 47:47Speaker 1: out yeah.
- 47:47Speaker 4: Honestly too I wouldn't even like warn him I think
- 47:50Speaker 4: I would just tell the police and be like hey
- 47:52Speaker 4: my brother stole my dog he lives here I don't
- 47:55Speaker 4: know what's going on over there but I know that
- 47:57Speaker 4: it's not a safe environment for the dog yeah and
- 48:00Speaker 4: he stole my dog so yeah go get my dog.
- 48:04Speaker 1: Yeah I'm glad it turned out well, though. Yes. But
- 48:07Speaker 1: that's the end of that story. And we got some comments.
- 48:11Speaker 3: All right. Before we end this episode, we've got some
- 48:13Speaker 3: comments from the video.
- 48:15Speaker 4: I caught robbers in my home after my little sister
- 48:18Speaker 4: let them in. And that was posted on August 14th, 2026.
- 48:21Speaker 4: This is the TLDR for story one. OP was away
- 48:26Speaker 4: at her boyfriend's place taking university exams when she got
- 48:29Speaker 4: a devastating phone call from her mom. Their family home
- 48:32Speaker 4: had been robbed. Everything that wasn't bolted down was gone. TVs, laptops, bikes,
- 48:38Speaker 4: even her clothes and makeup. It was about $ 10, 000 worth
- 48:42Speaker 4: of stuff.
- 48:42Speaker 3: Duh.
- 48:43Speaker 4: But then the pieces started to come together. Earlier, Opie's
- 48:48Speaker 4: nine-year-old sister had let some friends in to see the dogs,
- 48:51Speaker 4: and one girl kept asking creepy questions like whether anyone
- 48:56Speaker 4: was home and if the dogs bit strangers. That night,
- 49:01Speaker 4: the house was cleaned out and the spare key was missing.
- 49:04Speaker 4: If you're curious to know the full story, you can
- 49:06Speaker 4: go watch the full video.
- 49:08Speaker 3: And we've got some comments.
- 49:11Speaker 4: Academically Mochi says, for the first story, the parents clearly
- 49:15Speaker 4: failed that 14-year-old if she had gang relations, and they
- 49:19Speaker 4: need to sue the thieves regardless of what the officer said.
- 49:23Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I.
- 49:25Speaker 4: Remember this story, and I think it comes down to, like,
- 49:30Speaker 4: you can do that, but what will you get out
- 49:32Speaker 4: of it, you know? Firespire793 says, in my opinion, the
- 49:36Speaker 4: first story could have been avoided if everybody had a
- 49:40Speaker 4: I honestly wonder how far or close OP's house is
- 49:44Speaker 4: from her parents.
- 49:45Speaker 3: And why is this nine-year-old just wandering the streets with
- 49:48Speaker 3: her friends?
- 49:49Speaker 4: No adult supervision in sight and letting others into her
- 49:52Speaker 4: sister's home while she's not there.
- 49:55Speaker 3: I don't blame the kid as much as the adults
- 49:56Speaker 3: in this situation.
- 49:58Speaker 4: And are people in New Zealand not allowed to get
- 50:00Speaker 4: cameras for their property or something? I can't imagine having
- 50:03Speaker 4: animals at home and while I'm gone, other people have
- 50:06Speaker 4: come in and out of my house to upkeep things.
- 50:10Speaker 4: Yet I don't have a way to surveillance any of that.
- 50:12Speaker 4: So I'll let you know, nine-year-olds will roam a neighborhood
- 50:16Speaker 4: with other nine-year-olds.
- 50:17Speaker 3: Because that's the way the world works.
- 50:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 50:20Speaker 3: Kids are not always under adult supervision. And honestly, it's
- 50:23Speaker 3: better that way. I don't know.
- 50:25Speaker 1: You just gotta learn. Don't learn.
- 50:27Speaker 4: If you're always under supervision, you never learn how to
- 50:31Speaker 4: do things for yourself. Maybe nine's a little early, but
- 50:35Speaker 4: they were in a posse.
- 50:36Speaker 3: Anyway.
- 50:36Speaker 1: It was a posse of nine-year-olds. Come on. Who's gonna
- 50:39Speaker 1: go up to that?
- 50:40Speaker 4: Tabitha Ellison 291 says the family's stealing money.
- 50:44Speaker 3: Sadly, I know quite a few family members that have
- 50:47Speaker 3: done the same. It is so messed up.
- 50:51Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, just sort of like the ultimate like, oh,
- 50:54Speaker 4: you think nothing of me. Like you're just going to steal.
- 50:56Speaker 4: You're gonna be a thief and you're gonna steal from me,
- 50:58Speaker 4: from your own family.
- 50:59Speaker 3: It's crazy.
- 51:01Speaker 4: And Mame Luki says at four minutes and eight seconds, dude,
- 51:05Speaker 4: I'm breaking into the house.
- 51:06Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.
- 51:07Speaker 4: And that is a doer right there. That is someone
- 51:10Speaker 4: who does. But that is the end of those comments
- 51:13Speaker 4: and the end of this episode. So if you love us,
- 51:16Speaker 4: make sure you subscribe.
- 51:17Speaker 1: We love you.
- 51:18Speaker 3: And see you tomorrow.