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  Speaker 1: Camp be Thursday. Everybody my loud, Mike excited, really really seriously.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, everybody who knows me loads elector really seriously.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, we gon need some hats made
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  Speaker 1: up because Joshua Door thought it was a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Candy doesn't know about it, but she'll know about the
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  Speaker 1: live broadcast. Oh my god, what am I into this time?
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, I have a guy that on here Tonight's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be on as many times he can. His name
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  Speaker 1: is Mike Santos. He's going to be the actual sponsor
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  Speaker 1: of this show from Hockey Operations LLC. Before I turn
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  Speaker 1: over the rest of the crew, Rank, please give yourself
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  Speaker 1: a nice introduction. Let everybody know about Hockey Operations, what
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  Speaker 1: you do when your NHL all experience, and everybody's going
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  Speaker 1: to be in for treat on Thursday night with you,
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  Speaker 1: Mike and everybody else will participates on the show. The floorsiers,
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  Speaker 1: Mic Nice, Scott, Well, yeah, it's nice to be on
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  Speaker 1: here with you guys.
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  Speaker 2: I hope it's gonna be a lot of fun and
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit about hockey as well. My background,
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  Speaker 2: obviously is in hockey.
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  Speaker 1: I was a player through.
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  Speaker 2: College had a number of roommates who played in the NHL.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I decided to go on and work in
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  Speaker 2: the business. Was worked at the NHL offices in New
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  Speaker 2: York and Montreal. Also was the assistant GM of the
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  Speaker 2: New York Islanders, the Nashville Predators, and Florida Panthers. I
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  Speaker 2: currently have a business called Hockey Operations, which is an
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  Speaker 2: international portfolio of different businesses, all sports related, including television production.
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  Speaker 2: We do advisement for NHL teams. I've got a Hockey
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  Speaker 2: Operation software pro that's used by a couple of NHL teams,
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  Speaker 2: the Montreal Canadians and the Anaheim Ducks. That's called Team
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  Speaker 2: thirty three. It's a mixture of analytics and real professional
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  Speaker 2: hockey management folks who worked in the NHL coaches, former coaches, players,
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  Speaker 2: general managers, scouts. We actually operate as if we're an
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  Speaker 2: NHL club. The only difference is we don't have our
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  Speaker 2: own roster of players. So yeah, I've stayed active in
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  Speaker 2: the game and very interested in other sports as well.
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  Speaker 2: I'm currently teaching at a number of universities throughout the country,
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  Speaker 2: four of the exact and I'm teaching courses in sports law,
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  Speaker 2: as well as nil, which is a hot topic to
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  Speaker 2: these days.
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  Speaker 1: So you say that you're a commissioner of a couple leagues.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I picked that up or not,
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  Speaker 1: but do you mind mentioning that too.
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  Speaker 2: I was the commissioner of the North American Hockey League.
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  Speaker 2: All I actually was sort of recruited by USA Hockey
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  Speaker 2: back in the day to prop that league up and
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  Speaker 2: really was part of a group that created what is
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  Speaker 2: now a national footprint for that league. It's actually the
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  Speaker 2: oldest and largest junior hockey league in the US. I
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  Speaker 2: was also a commissioner for three years of the Eastern
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  Speaker 2: Hockey League, which is based on the East Coast. The
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  Speaker 2: name and it was Tier three junior hockey league, which
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  Speaker 2: also placed a lot of players, particularly in Division two
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  Speaker 2: and three college programs.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're lucky we get to tap into for knowledge
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  Speaker 1: and insights every single Thursday night here on the Sports Exchange.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we will everybody do their introduction. Trent normally on baseball,
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  Speaker 1: but decided to come on board tonight. Thanks so much
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  Speaker 1: for being on tonight, Trent. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 3: Hey man, it's not a one and eight stitches night
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  Speaker 3: for baseball, but yeah, I love it, man, talking hockey.
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  Speaker 3: This is one of my big loves. And listen, man,
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  Speaker 3: tonight's show is incredible. So thrilled that we got you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Barber of course, and great to meet Mike Santos
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  Speaker 3: and Steve BALLISTERI so this is gonna be fun to
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  Speaker 3: be on the show.
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  Speaker 4: Guys. I'm excited, very good.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Barber, you were excited what I say to
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  Speaker 1: the topics. I'm just so excited about what I had
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  Speaker 1: up my bag of drinks.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I'm gonna tell you what. It's an honor to
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  Speaker 5: meet Mike Santos. Everything he just dropped on me right there.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I'm around hockey nobility right now. To
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  Speaker 5: be honest with you, I am. If football's my number one,
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  Speaker 5: hockey's my number one.
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  Speaker 1: AA.
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  Speaker 5: I absolutely love hockey. You've loved it since the first
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  Speaker 5: time I went to a game when I was a
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  Speaker 5: kid back in the mid seventies. And I can't wait
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  Speaker 5: to hear all you have to share, my friend, I
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  Speaker 5: really can't. And the new Bison right there, Balistirie, you
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  Speaker 5: gotta love seeing a Baizon on his show with me.
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  Speaker 5: I just that's all I can say about that.
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  Speaker 1: Steve would be for a while. Man, I dragged him everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, a little information about Ballasto. I when
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  Speaker 1: I write my next book, as long as he wants
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  Speaker 1: to do it, he's gonna write the board to get
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  Speaker 1: ready to Steve.
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  Speaker 6: You know I already when when whenever you are my friend, Mike.
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  Speaker 6: It's a pleasure to meet you, guys. Uh, it's a pleasure.
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  Speaker 6: I mean. I grew up a rabid hockey fan in Boston.
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  Speaker 6: When I was a little kid, I went to Bobbio's
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  Speaker 6: rookie season, gaining myself there. So I went to a
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  Speaker 6: game with when bobbioa was a rookie playing the Canadians,
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  Speaker 6: which is their big rival. But they ended up losing
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  Speaker 6: that game. But uh, you know, I could at least
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  Speaker 6: say I watched him and many times after that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: but that rookie season was kind of special because that
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  Speaker 6: was my first ever hockey game. So I'm pretty excited.
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  Speaker 6: You know, this is fun. I didn't even you know
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  Speaker 6: what the topic was tonight. You just asked me to
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  Speaker 6: come on, and I was like, I'm in sure. Oh,
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  Speaker 6: I came up with some easy ones. Come on, Mari Day.
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  Speaker 6: Let everybody know how easy these taking topics are.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, you want to talk four nations hockey?
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  Speaker 4: Muff?
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  Speaker 5: My man, I couldn't get enough of that. That was
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  Speaker 5: one of the most amazing things that that hockey has
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  Speaker 5: done in quite some time. And they would they would
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  Speaker 5: do themselves an injustice if they don't stick with that.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I get that we have the World Cup
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  Speaker 5: coming up in twenty eight, I get that we have
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  Speaker 5: the Olympics next year, but just those four teams that
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  Speaker 5: they put on the ice and let battle out over
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  Speaker 5: a few days period of time was just amazing and
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  Speaker 5: I can't wait to talk about it all.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to do it now since I give
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  Speaker 1: you the top They said, no, you probably host the
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  Speaker 1: show instead of me. I don't even care anyway, but anyways,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to it. According to the Front Office Sports Canada,
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  Speaker 1: USA was the most watched on Olympic hockey game ever
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  Speaker 1: in the United States, nine point three million viewers, more
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  Speaker 1: than the twenty nineteen Stanley Cup. SAMON drove over sixteen
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  Speaker 1: million viewers in North America. Mike, so real? Is that
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  Speaker 1: unmellewble or what I think?
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  Speaker 2: I think We've got to be a little guarded as
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  Speaker 2: to what the after effect is actually going to be
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  Speaker 2: with this tournament though. First of all, it was a
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  Speaker 2: great event, especially in place of the traditional All Star
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  Speaker 2: Game or All Star weekend in pretty much every sport.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: I'll sort of say baseball is not this way is terrible. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kudos to the NHL for coming up with
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  Speaker 2: something that that was a hit. And most importantly is
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  Speaker 2: it was competitive. I mean, that's the thing we complain
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  Speaker 2: about in most of the All Star Games, is it's
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  Speaker 2: not competitive. But this was a competitive event. I don't
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  Speaker 2: believe it would have been nearly as successful as it
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  Speaker 2: was if it wasn't for the uh I'll call it
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  Speaker 2: stage three fights in nine seconds in the first Canada
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  Speaker 2: US and I believe that that's what really drew the
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  Speaker 2: TV audience for the for the championship game between the
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  Speaker 2: US and Canada. When all those sort of non hockey
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  Speaker 2: people tuned in and watched that event and didn't see
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  Speaker 2: any fights, I wonder if they'll be back. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: the only you know, negative I see in this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing that I.
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  Speaker 2: Would I would comment on too is that it was
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  Speaker 2: great to see things from you know, the US and Canada.
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  Speaker 2: Of course from Finland and Sweden, which most people, at
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  Speaker 2: least in the United States knew nothing about. But there
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  Speaker 2: are some other countries that weren't represented in this event.
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  Speaker 2: And so what, you know, where do we go from here?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I hear discussions about maybe an eighteen tournament,
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  Speaker 2: but as we expand this thing, it's going to take
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  Speaker 2: more and more time for the regular season. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that's possible. And I wonder what a Russian
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  Speaker 2: team with you know, people like Lebrovski and Schusterkin and
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  Speaker 2: goal was done against either US or Canada.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Frank, Yeah, what do you think it's your stage?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? My, my stage?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Man, I mean listen to four nations like I them
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  Speaker 3: going into this format to me like blew the doors
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  Speaker 3: off any All Star game that ever happened. And and
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  Speaker 3: I thought, like Mike, I thought like, man, where are
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  Speaker 3: the Russians?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like I would have liked to have seen that team.
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  Speaker 3: That would have been pretty exciting. I think it gets
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  Speaker 3: a little water down you get down to eight. You
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  Speaker 3: got some teams that don't have like the twenty quality
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  Speaker 3: players that some of these others. I mean, man, you
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  Speaker 3: got a revolving door in Canada, the US, like not
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  Speaker 3: easy to get a twenty man roster because there's well, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you could have gone with forty different players
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  Speaker 3: easily on both sides of that that compete well. And
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: I know, like everyone's looking at Patrick Kane, who's done
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  Speaker 3: a lot of like international play for US and he's
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  Speaker 3: aged out maybe, but he's still a really good player, right,
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  Speaker 3: And so it's, uh, man, I'm telling you, that was
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  Speaker 3: the best hockey I'd seen in so long. You know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously ever knows I'm a baseball guy, right the World
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  Speaker 3: Series everything else. But I have four boys that played,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and and the two of them played junior hockey,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, and I still got a thirteen year
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  Speaker 3: old coming up.
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  Speaker 4: Man, So it's it's a it's a blast for me
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  Speaker 4: to watch.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, and I talked to a lot of
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  Speaker 3: youth coaches during the Cup and I'm like, hey, are.
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  Speaker 1: You are you?
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  Speaker 3: Are you having all your kids watch this Nation's Cup?
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  Speaker 3: Because this is the best hockey they're ever gonna see.
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  Speaker 3: The speed of play, the quality. I mean, You've got
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  Speaker 3: guys that are clearly all stars for their teams, that
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  Speaker 3: are playing fourth line on these teams, right, Like it's crazy,
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  Speaker 3: and uh so it was a lot of fun. I
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  Speaker 3: am gonna sidebar this on my one claim to fame
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  Speaker 3: story and why I belong here, all right? That that
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: two thousand Angel ring right there. My claim to fame is,
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  Speaker 3: and you're gonna appreciate this motor City, is that.
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  Speaker 4: When we won that in O two. Little did we
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  Speaker 4: know in.
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  Speaker 3: The spring of two there was a there was a
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  Speaker 3: Stanley Cup champion Detroit Red Wings.
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  Speaker 4: And so the.
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  Speaker 3: Calgary ring provider is the same that provided that one
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  Speaker 3: right there for the Angels in O two.
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  Speaker 4: So that's my fame. I have a ring.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have a Red Wings ring, but I have
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  Speaker 3: a ring by the same manufacturer.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I have.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff. Okay, all right, Barbara.
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  Speaker 5: I have no rings. I'm sorry. I have a high
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  Speaker 5: school state championship ring. That's the best I.
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  Speaker 2: Can do for you.
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  Speaker 4: Ring. That's a good ring.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 5: It was an amazing team, to be quite honest with you.
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  Speaker 5: But I don't know if you guys were to pull
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  Speaker 5: one team out of that fourteen group, who would you
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  Speaker 5: to pull it out to replace them with Russia? Like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you could have pulled anybody out
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  Speaker 5: because at the end of the day, those four teams
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  Speaker 5: played over the top hockey, and I'd get what Russia has,
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  Speaker 5: but man, and if they go to eight teams, that's
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  Speaker 5: that's why I agree that's watering it down. That takes
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  Speaker 5: away from I don't know, I think you're right. It
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  Speaker 5: takes away from the NHL guys playing against each other.
• 12:22
  Speaker 5: I do a maridime minute, and I did about six
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  Speaker 5: of them on these games, and the one that stuck
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  Speaker 5: out to me that I actually did was, you know,
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  Speaker 5: all these teams had NHL guys the whole way through
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  Speaker 5: the roster, and they're banging each other and they're crushing
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  Speaker 5: each other into the boards, and then a few days
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  Speaker 5: later they're back on the ice playing with each other
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  Speaker 5: on the same team. I mean, hockey is just a
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  Speaker 5: different animal. And you know, Mike, like I said, I
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  Speaker 5: really I'm very honored to have you with us here tonight.
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  Speaker 5: You understand that I've watched it happen with my son, Uh.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he plays hockey. Uh, And it's just it's
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  Speaker 5: a different animal. The camaraderie, the spirit of the game.
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  Speaker 5: You go out there, you play your hardest for who
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  Speaker 5: whoever you're playing with, at that time, given point in time,
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  Speaker 5: and then if you move on, you do the same
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  Speaker 5: thing for the next group, and uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: really hope they don't expand it. I just everything about
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  Speaker 5: that was just it was perfect to me, everything about it.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't think any other major league sport at
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  Speaker 5: this point in time could provide us with anything as
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  Speaker 5: far as a mid season break or an end of
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  Speaker 5: the season all star type of game that even rivals
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  Speaker 5: at the hockey has set a standard that it's going
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  Speaker 5: to be really difficult for all these other organizations, professional
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  Speaker 5: sports organizations to match up with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought up something that that's really important, and
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  Speaker 2: that is that this this was not an international tournament.
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  Speaker 2: This was an NHL event. Yeah, and all the teams
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  Speaker 2: were comprised of NHL players. They represented their countries or
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  Speaker 2: countries that were in this event. But it was an
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  Speaker 2: NHL event and it was it was meant to replace
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  Speaker 2: the All Star Game, and it was fantastic. It was
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  Speaker 2: It was so much better than watching something that's not competitive.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was very interesting that the US Canada
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  Speaker 2: game happened on a Saturday evening. The first game, which
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  Speaker 2: which got so much attention and then the very next
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  Speaker 2: evening we had the NBA All Star Game, which was
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  Speaker 2: probably the most atrocious one I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: Who watched Who watched that game?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an NBA fan, you know, all these years
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: on the road, there were lots of nights we would
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: get into a city and rather than twelve for another
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  Speaker 2: dinner somewhere, if there was an NBA game, I'd go
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  Speaker 2: grab a ticket and watch. And so I'm I'm a
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: fan of the NBA, but gee, those players. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the way the NBA players treated
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  Speaker 2: that at All Star they had a little mini tournament
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  Speaker 2: with four different teams on it as well. Editedness, like
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  Speaker 2: you said about of the players in the hockey games, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Night and day, Mike.
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  Speaker 5: Just to piggyback off of what you said, when Lebron
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  Speaker 5: about out at the last second on the NBA All
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  Speaker 5: Star Game and didn't give a guy who potentially was
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  Speaker 5: the alternate the opportunity to come in there and play, right,
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  Speaker 5: that's when I really, I mean, progressively, I've been going
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  Speaker 5: downhill with the NBA, but that's when I really was
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  Speaker 5: kind of like, Wow, what a selfish league? This this
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: league is, Like they just and in the NHL. These
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  Speaker 5: guys just want to play the game. They want to
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: play the game.
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  Speaker 2: It's true. I don't think this will be issue, but
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  Speaker 2: I never say never. I mean, you know, the h
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  Speaker 2: players have a player's association just like every other UH
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  Speaker 2: major sport. And there are players that now are not
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: playing because they're injured. One of them's Matthew Pachuk the Panthers,
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  Speaker 2: and there's some reports that he may know he may
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  Speaker 2: not return this this season. I don't know if that's
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: true or not, but but he's not I only's not
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  Speaker 2: playing tonight against Edmonton and he's not playing in the
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: next game against Calgary. Great playing. Uh, That's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: something that will be discussed down the line. But I
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  Speaker 2: think they they've at least come up with something that
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  Speaker 2: gets the uced is flowing and it is competitive, and
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  Speaker 2: so whether they take a longer break and they play
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  Speaker 2: an Olympic tournament in two weeks with a whole bunch
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  Speaker 2: of teams, they can certainly, you know, they can certainly
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  Speaker 2: find a way to play, you know, an expanded tournament
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  Speaker 2: in that time or less if they decide to do that.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing to not to not to for more
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  Speaker 2: water on the fire. But would it's been so great
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  Speaker 2: if it wasn't US and Canada in the final And
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  Speaker 2: you know, very usually could have could have happened. Remember
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  Speaker 2: the first time the the NHL players went to the
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  Speaker 2: Olympics in Japan and neither US or Canada made the
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  Speaker 2: metal round and it was a complete flop except for
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  Speaker 2: the players who had a really good time over there.
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  Speaker 2: But it's you know, it's a risk too. You know
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  Speaker 2: those games, the final game in Boston may have not
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: been so great if it was Fingling.
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  Speaker 1: Again, speaking great points, let's go to Tambor real quick.
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  Speaker 1: I know she's waiting patiently. The NBA fund the way
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  Speaker 1: to make a worse of landscare, which is impressive you
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  Speaker 1: people only for so that's and and if if the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: NHL got got on first dake with Steve and a Smith,
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  Speaker 1: you're really making some progress. Okay, And now let's go
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  Speaker 1: to Brian Pettitt and my idea for next year for
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  Speaker 1: the All Stars just a the regular season game because
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  Speaker 1: they have the Olympics. After that they have and have
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  Speaker 1: four nations and then do a week on the All
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  Speaker 1: Stars weekend. Le put them all up there right tem
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  Speaker 1: I know you're patiently waiting, so go ahead, my friend.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I was really pleasantly surprised by the
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: passion in the game. And you know, and uh, because
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: all Star games have been going downhill for quite a while.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, the NFL now it's it's just flag football, right. Yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: we were talking about the NBA and which I don't watch,
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: but you know, I saw all the stuff on TV
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: and it was horrible. And even the NHL also, our
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: game is hasn't been great, and for them to put
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: this out there, I mean I was curious of how
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: it was going to work and watching these guys go out.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: You know, there was a lot of political aspects of
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: what was going on in the world, and I think
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: that in kind of inflame stuff. But as Mike knows,
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: you know, I saw a lot of Canadian hockey fans
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: trying to justify the booing of the US national anthem,
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: and they kept saying, well, we're not booing the US,
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: We're not booing you your team, we're booing your president.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: And I answered quite a few of those on social
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: media and I was like, that's complete bs, because you know,
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: growing up in Boston, they've been booing the national anthem
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: and the NHL playoffs when the Bruins go to Montreal
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: for decades. I mean, you know, I can go back
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: to the nineteen eighties, you know, when the Don Cherry
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: was the coach of the Boston Bruins. I mean, they
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: were booming the national anthem then. So, but I think
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: that's what injected a lot of passion into it. You know,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: we saw that in the first USA Canada game and
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: I absolutely loved it, and the games were really good,
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: and I think, yeah, I agree with Brian Pettitt there.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: I think next year with the Olympics, probably not a
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: good time to do that. But yeah, after that, I
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: would rather than having the traditional All Star snowfest, I
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: have this again. I mean, you know, if you want
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: to talk about some passion, if the Russians did have
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: a team in this, oh my god.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine what that would have been.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the only thing I'll say here because
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I know I have a lot more proble want to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: get to us. To the NHL's credit, though, they at
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: least tried different things throughout the year. If we talk
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: about remember nineteen seventy two, Michael, you had Team Cannon
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: against the Russians, the canon, the cuff of some of
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the series and all that business. So they do a
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: lot of different things. The NBA is a laugher. Baseball, well,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously we see some interest. I think of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the All Star Games, I would truly say the NHL
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: in their format is best. I would lean a little
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: bit more toward baseball being number two. And then it's
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a toss up between the NBA and the NFL. And
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I've been to the Pro Bowl and that was bad.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And I'll just say this much. Jerry Green, the late
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: writer for the Detroit News, said he would go to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: a Pro Old game. He thinks it's bad. Being Glenn,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I went to at least I got to see one.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Anybody want to add one last thing to.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: This, Yeah, well, I was just going to tell you,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: like I think the game change for MLB when they
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: made the game matter that that winning team got the
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: home field advantage in the World Series. Now that all
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: of a sudden mattered because you've got a couple of
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: players that are going to be in there, and and
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: pretty much at the halfway mark, everyone's still in it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: You know, a couple or a couple or twenty.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Five games out of you know, out of it, but
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: like you know, for the most part, you still got
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: a chance.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: You're saying there's a chance, right, So I thought it
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: was good.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: And I also want to know, like by the way,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: I do I count because I was watching it in
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Mexico with probably about eighties Canadians.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: On that point, I.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Want to know if I'm counted in that sixteen point
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: nine million in North America because it was awesome.
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: Man, What am I to your to your point, Trent,
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: you know, these All Star Games started to go downhill,
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: in particular with the NBA and the.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: NHL when they started making them less about the game
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: or about all the other stuff.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: The NBA started this with their dunk competition and all
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that other stuff. The NHL followed suit. They copied it
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the very next year, and they it started. It started
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: actually in nineteen ninety in Pittsburgh the first one, and
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: immediately the scores went from you know, five to three
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: in the All Star Game to fourteen to twelve. And
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I think what they did is they gave a you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: they gave a sign to the players that like this
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: is about sponsors and having parties and doing four things
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: you know, for the weekend, and they just they just
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: gave the you know, the sign that like, you know this,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: you don't have to be competitive, Mike.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I was at that game in nineteen ninety and Pittsburgh
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: because I'm originally from Pittsburgh, and you're right, Uh, I
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: literally walked up to the game with uh the guy
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: from from Friends that died I can't Matthew. Uh yeah.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: I literally walked up and we were bullshitting the whole way.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I got to the game with standing in line with
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Robbie Brown, who was one of the muse wingers. Like
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: it was, it was an all star game of you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: just trying to to get people to just like buy
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: into all the circus act of it. But you know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: I think in the NFL, and I have a solution
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: for a couple of these. I think with the NFL,
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: I think instead of having any type of game or anything,
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: since you don't want to hit guys that make that
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: team should take that money because let's face it, they.
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: Don't need that money, maybe donated to their favorite charity.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: And then with the NBA, they lost that game when
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: they start like the guys in the slam Dunk contest
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: when guys. Just you know, who are these guys. Mac McClung.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: He's a D leaguer, you know, like you lost me
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: when that stuff start happening. So I mean, you need
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: to get these guys fully involved if you're going to
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: have these all star games.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, remember the you know, the NHL with all the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: other events that that Scott mentioned, They weren't during the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: middle of the season. You know, all these types of
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: international they were all done. But it's all about being competitive.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I know, Steve, you probably remember, like I do, well,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: at least when I was a kid, that the college
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: All Star team used to play the Super Bowl champs. Yes,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and it was a very time that because the Super
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Bowl Champs didn't want to be embarrassed by a bunch
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: of college kids, and the college kids were fired up
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to show what they could do. And it used to
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: be an elephantt.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, those were those were enjoyable.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the whole crew remembers that particular situation. Yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: we could talk about this rage, but anybody else wanted
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to say something. I got a few old they want
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: to get to and we'll go ahead with this. This
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: topic won't be as complex, but I enjoyed laying Lowell.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: All you guys talked about this. I can guarantee you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: one thing, everybody. I'm not losing my voice on this show.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I got four head Anyways, here on this crew man,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: they are heavyway. So that's a heavy extent of what
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say tonight. But next topic, Connor McDavid
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: predicts Sidney Crowbie will play twelve month from now at
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the Olympics. All right, we'll just make this an easy one.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's the case of give me a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: simple explanation. We'll start with you, Mike. Yeah.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I mean we're talking about
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Canada and that's everything to these guys. You know, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: don't think it's just by chance that they seem to
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: come up big in all these games, whether it was
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: the gold medal at the Olympics in Vancouver or whether
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: it was last week in Boston. This means this means
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the world for them. And you know, Sidney Crosby is
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: one of the one of the great players of the game,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: great players of the history of the game, and there's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: there's no way you'll keep him out of the Olympic Games.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think Trent.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I expect it fully, man, And I mean, listen,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: he was all in on four Nations, man, I mean
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: he is right in the mix of it, and he
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: is bringing his a game, and I mean, I think
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: there's nothing more than he wants. And I think they
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: got a little redemption by winning four Nations, but I
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: think what they do realize is.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: That Olympic gold is not a.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Shoe in and they've got a great team and I
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: and I would probably pick him as the favorite today.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: But man, I mean it's proven out again and again
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: in the Olympics.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: It's no easy feat.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: And uh, I'm sure this could be his swan song
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: for the Olympics.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: So everyone wants to go out a winner. I expect
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: him there, all right.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Mister Pittsburgh, I got another topic, and then we're going
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: to go to a station Rick after this and has
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: your name written all over marriage.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: You're talking about my guy.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: That kid, and I've met him and I've met Lemieux
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: and they are cut from the same cloth. Man, It's
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: no question about it. He is in tip top shape.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: He has nothing around him anymore, but he's still playing
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: at extremely high level and he is respected those guys
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: on that team, how many of those Connor McDavid like,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: those guys love Sid and they know what he brings
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: to the game and they pick his brain constantly when
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: they're around him. There's no way on God's green earth
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: that that boy would not play well, that man would
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: not play in the Olympics, you know.
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: After that?
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I don't know if we'll see him
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: again as far as something like that the Olympics, but
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: you know, he's still in tiptop shape. He's going to
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: be back and he's gonna be just as good as
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: he's ever been. He's gonna be Team Canada's captain again.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: I would be shocked if he wasn't. And I realized
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: where McDavid stands with all this, I do, I get it.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: But you know, if you look at Sid's everything he's
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: done and what he has earned and how he carries himself,
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: he is the face of hockey and has been the
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: face of hockey for a long long time.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know, you so glad to have you on.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Let me know when you're available to come on inside
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the pitch and Houston Marshall, everybody is a superstar on
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: that show. He was unbelievable. All right, see what your
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: thoughts on this?
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that not only will he play, he
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: should play.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: I mean he's a you know, he's an icon in
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: Canada and in Pittsburgh. I mean, it's a no brainer.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: I think he should play. He's one of the great
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: ambassadors of the game. Even if you know, a posing
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: team fans don't like him. They they love to go
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: there and boom, you know what I mean, they would
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: It wouldn't be the same without him. I think he
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: should And I think he should be the captain too.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, and I know, you know, color McDavid is
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: now the guy, but it is an icon. So you know,
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: I'm fully in favor of this.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: One or one last topic for to go to the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: station break, mister Pittsford. This one tailor made for you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: It really really our nation face off. So the captain
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: versus the coach in the final game Sydney Crosby against
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Mike Sullivan Team USA. First of all, I gotta go
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: with you, Mike. What do you think about this? The
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: captain against the coach in the final I mean, it
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't get any more interesting than that. What do you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: say when these two guys get back together and finish
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: the year about what they ended up doing, and there's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a tournament like that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: The coach and the assistant coach David Quinn too is
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: also the assistant right now, right, I just think that's
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the nature of the game. I don't believe it really,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you know, it carries over think there's you know, as
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: much as their competitors. And we talked about this earlier.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: In this sport, Uh, there's also a lot of respect
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: in the sport. I mean you can see that when
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: two guys, you know, beat the crap out of one another,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: and then you know it's over, right they take the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: cans or in the old days, right Steven Boston then
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: go to the three b's across the street with a
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: visiting team and drink until they kicked them out at
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: two in the morning. That's that's just the nature of
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: the game. So I don't I don't think there's any
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: issue there. I'm gonna make one more comment though about
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: the last topic, and that is go ahead. I think
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: we're going to be looking at an interesting perhaps gold
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: medal game between Ovechkin and Russia and Crosby and is
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: soon to be the beating goalscorer of all time in
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the NHL and was only one year after Sitting was drafted.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, okay, all right, who's next? I
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: guess yeah, yeah.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I mean for me, I think it's the it's the
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: camaraderie of the league, you know.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, coming.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Back, you know, years later now from championships or whatever. Man,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: there's not a you don't miss a beat from all
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: these wars you go together into and and you've got
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: a lot of respect for your opponent. And man, this
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: is this is the beautiful thing about it. I'll talk
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: about it on my diatribe tonight, but like, uh, this
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: is this is what it's all about. And I think
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: guys really appreciate how tough it is there and how
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: hard everybody's going, you know. And I think it came
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: out right after the Detroit uh, after the Canadian Sweden game,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: the first game out, like everyone's gonna going.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Man, I've never played.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: That fast of a game in my life, and I mean,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: these are the fastest guys in the world, right and
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: it's like, man, this is a fast game. And I
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: mean Connor Hellibuk really shined out for me, like these
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I think got a new level respect for that guy
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: who looks like so calm back in there. And then Finland,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: they're grit against Canada to come back and score those
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: three quick goals, but puckers all over the whole country
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: of Canada, Like it was crazy, Like that thing almost
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: the whole wheels almost fell off, man, you know, so
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: it was I mean, just from a tournament standpoint, these
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: guys know they're going hard, and you don't have to
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: like your opponent to respect them. There's a ton of
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: people in this world. I've got a lot of respect
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: for that. Maybe I don't like, but when you don't,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: when you don't respect somebody, that's a different deal. And
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: hockey is the ultimate respect of all the pro sports.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: They really bring it and they really honor it together
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: in that league. And you talk to the greats and
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: the old timers that played, they they all have that
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: and and and people still honor them. You know, it
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter what year they played, they still honor those greats.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: And I think that's just a really cool thing about
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: the sport. Regardless of what social media says and all
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: this crap about people them to each other, is always
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: they're always knowing that they're a warrior that went through the.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Battle and they have a lot of honor for that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I love it all right.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Well, the one thing I want to ask you, okay,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Like I mentioned to Mike, the irony of the captain
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: against the coach is a pretty interesting situation.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: Isn't it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, a captain versus the coach. What do you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: talk about on the pine when you get back? We
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: don't want Mike first, bad man? What do you think?
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: You know, you've been inside to tug out, you know
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: what's going on there, get faced to each other in
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: one place, and all of a sudden you're back to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: your buddies again. Yeah.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you know, he's this guy, right,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: like I mean, Sid Sullivan's guy, like he's you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: oh he should have he would have definitely, he would
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: have definitely loved that that that spot, and and he
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: would have definitely loved the win, right for sure, Like
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think, but uh, you know, Sid's given everything,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: he's got to go get that thing, and he's honoring
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: that man. And and I'm s sure there's gonna be
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: a little not not soon by the way, but give
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: it a couple of weeks.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: There's gonna be a little jiving in there.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: There's gonna be a little jabs into the ribs about
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: you know, who won that thing and who didn't. Right,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: there'll be a couple of reminders just to let you know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: but it'll all be in good fun and it'll all
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: be very respectful and uh and and and it's great.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's the one thing about sports that you
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: gotta love. And by the way, the other thing that's
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: beautiful about this this sport is like, hey, if you
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: really go across the line, you will get knocked in
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: the teeth and and lose a couple. So they'll let
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: you know if you step out of bounce, well.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Then you better get a neuroguard. Plus that was just
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: showing earlier that takes care of the lower job getting
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: into that. You know what I'm talking about. Going to
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. We did it on Monday, all right,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: mister Pittsburgh. Now you have a chance to talk about
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Croppy and solvent and stay up because this is really.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: At the end of the day. When those fights occurred,
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: at the beginning of that first matchup, Mike Sullivan's fingerprints
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: were not on that that was something that those players
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: decided to do to stir that team up. That is
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: not Mike Sullivan hockey. And you guys, being from Boston,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: you know that's not his styv hockey. Me watching Mike
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Sullivan coach at the minor league level for other teams
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: and being the head coach in Pittsburgh for all these years,
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: that's not his stove hockey. So Crosby went into that
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: locker room before they played that second game for the championship,
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: and he said, Sullivan's not gonna let them do that again.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: And if they try to get under your skin, turn
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: your head the other way, and they're not gonna do
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: a thing about it. You noticed, even when the Kachuck
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: brothers tried to get things going well, Matt went out
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: pretty quickly. But when they try to stir up a
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: little trouble, the Canadian guys kind of turned their back
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: on it. They're like, whatever, you know. And I'm pretty
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: sure that Crosby got the last left not only not
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: only because Stay won, but I'm pretty sure he got
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: the last lap because he knew how to outsmart his
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: own coach. And I love that about what he did.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: I think Mike Sullivan's an outstanding coach. I think he's
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: an outstanding coach. His system doesn't work any longer in
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh because they're long.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: In the tooth.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, that was pretty
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: fun to watch them battle each other. It was more
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: psychological who's gonna win this psychological battle based on what
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: we're planning on doing here? And uh man, I'll tell
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: you what that That was just a lot of fun
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: to watch those two go at it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: There you go, may Day, That's what I needed.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: You.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of a noisy having the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: background is there somewhere around here? Do I need? Maybe
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I need my hearing.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: No, no, you don't. And my bulldog is your bull dog?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Bull dog, I'm kidding with you.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, my bulldog doesn't like hockey, so she's she's snoring
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: up a storm over here on my weft side.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Well, then thanks a lot for telling me I do
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: need hearing it. At least I knew I was hearing something.
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  Speaker 6: She knew I'm talking about her. She just woke up
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  Speaker 1: mention the ring I have as the University of South Florida.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, all right, Steve, Yeah, well I don't.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: The only ring I have is a Special Forces ring
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: that I got one i became a Green Beret. How
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: well are you I have even a better one than that?
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, I was as Scott, you know, I was
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: good friends with Pat Burns, who coached the Maple Leafs,
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: the Bruins, the Canadians and the Devils, and we lived
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: in New Hampshire, real close to each other. We were
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: good friends and when he took over the Devils, you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: during the season that they won the Stanley Cup, we
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: were always talking and texting on the phone. And the
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: morning after he won the Stanley Cup they had been
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: up partying all night long. He called me and that
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: was so cool to have the coach of the Stanley
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: Cup winning team call you the next morning and said, Hey,
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: did you happen to watch the game last night? Yeah? So,
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: you know, but getting back to you know, the coach
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: and the player, I think that's awesome again. You know,
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: I'm a hockey diehard traditionalist guy, and I think these guys,
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: you know, I know Crosby is gonna rib him all
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: the time about it. I mean, that's that's what we do.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: You know, we love to give each other a hard
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: time about things. I was going to say another word,
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: I'm glad I did this is family show, But you
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: know what I'm getting at. No, I just think I
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: think it was great. The whole thing was great. And
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: you know, the the again, the fights that I think
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: that was the passion coming out. I mean, you know,
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: that's what you want to see. And yeah, the purist
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: will say it's that's not hockey, but it kind of
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: is because you go back to the old days. I mean,
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: you know, the old saying, if you can't beat him
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: in the alley, you won't beat him on the ice.
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: So you know, I just love the whole aspect of this.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: And it was cool because the coach of the American
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: team was facing his star player from the Canadian team.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: How it doesn't get any better than that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, only I'll say about it, and only in hockey
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: can just happen. Let's think about Holly and.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: And the thing about hockey again. I mean, when it's
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: all over, you know you can fight, and you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: you know how rough the games can be. And at
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: the end of game seven, everybody lines up and shakes hands.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, Hockey's is the only sport that does that.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: You know in football they all kind of mill around
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: and shake hands, but it's not the same, you know.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: It's it's a tradition that only hockey has. How they
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: line up like that, and I love it.
• 41:27
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  Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, isn't it.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I first actually ran Frank in the American Hockey
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  Speaker 2: Funny story. He first day he came into our theater
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  Speaker 10: And he shuffled his feet like if anybody was mister
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• 44:30
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  Speaker 2: He so many good things, with so many teams that
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  Speaker 2: in the industry.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you, thanks to Frank. I met Mike,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and Frank, to me was a guy that I really
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: looked up for as a father figure. And rest in peace, Frank.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: If it weren't for you, it wouldn't have been a
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: lot of great people. And like I said, I send
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: us a lot on the show and I'll never stop
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: talking about it. I'm so glad that Mike is a
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: great friend of mine and now that we've joined force
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: us to make hockey a really great show. And this
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: is just the beginning of it. Mike and I are
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: planning going forward to really bring in to mention this
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: works never had. All right with that said, Okay, I
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: want to break the show up a little bit. We
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: have two onre hockey topics to get to. I'm not
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the only author in this room, so Trent, why don't
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you let the crew know a little bit about your
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: book as well as your podcast, and you never know,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: you might have a few guests here in this particular
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: room that would be honored to come on your show.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, Mike obviously is unbelievable. Steve to me is
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: a dynamite guy out in New England. I met him
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: on Twitter as well as Mark. So all right, Try,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: We're going to give you this for the next five
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: minutes or so, and now you guys can ask a
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: little bit about it. I'll get to two more topics
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: before you ramp it up. Fire Up will come up. Follow.
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  Speaker 1: Trent just floors your spell.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, thrilled to be here.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I am the author of Leading Winning Teams and I
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: wrote this book with the idea from Wiley Publishing. They
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: came to me asked me about my background. Had a
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: lot of great guests on winners find a way. And
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: so I was like, man, I've got all these sports guests,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: and we always talk about how these athletes transition and
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: how you become and build elite teams. And fortunate to
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: be a part of three World Series organizations, three teams
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: that went and that was a great experience. But now
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: I build fourteen different companies and always trying to build
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  Speaker 3: that team.
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: A lot of people come to me and go, oh man,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: we got a winning team.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: We got a great team, you know, Mike, as you know,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: like we pour a massive amount of time, energy and
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: money into finding the right players miss all the time,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: by the way, like miss all the time, And we
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: do the same thing with employees, and so I find out,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of people don't spend any of time.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I got three three people with a pulse
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: off Craigslist and they think they got a great, winning team,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: and organizations are not built that way.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: You know, You're trying to find those like minded.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: And I think one of the things that's fabulous about
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: pro sports that you see and I talk about this
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: in my book, is that you know, this is this
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: is hyper learning at the highest level, and there's three
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: really areas that you see this hyper learning level pro athletes, entrepreneurs,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: and special forces, as Steve knows, and you know, life
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: and death on the line with special Forces, you have
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: to adapt quickly, you have to learn. If you can't
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: learn fast and adapt quickly, you're out. And so it's
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: the same way in sports. Entrepreneurs are the same way.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: If you don't make it, you know your competition is
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: going to beat you up. So you know, as you
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: see the pro pro athletes, this hyper learning environment is
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: the best in the world who have been coached by
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: fabulous other coaches, who have got all these great experiences,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: and because they were very gifted, they kept getting more
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: access to even the best. And now you've got a
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: room with twenty five of them all together. You have
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: to check your ego at the door when you come
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: into the room with everybody else, because there's there's an
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: amount of humility that goes out with learning and learning fast,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: because if you're if you're humble enough, you check your
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: ego and you learn from the best. I cannot even
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: imagine how much was learned in that Four Nations Cup,
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: as they said, it's the fastest hockey they've ever played.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Now going back to their NHL team, which is of
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: course the fastest league in the world. And so now
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: they're going back and I watched the game the other
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: night and I'm like, wow, this looks a little slower now,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: like it's a significant drop in speed, just like that.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: But yet they're gonna bring all those values that they
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: got from these great players, all the best, and they're
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: all if they if they went in and sponged those
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: last seven to nine days up, They're going right back
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: to their teams, and they want to bring that information
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: and say, hey, listen, there's a couple of things I
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: think we need to make some adjustments here, a couple
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: of things we could do differently.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, this is what I've learned.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: And you know, we talk about this motor City, you know,
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  Speaker 3: with a late great Ricky Henderson, and you know, I
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: came up as a big bass dealer, and I remember
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• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I'm on second base, all I do is I watch
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  Speaker 3: that picture's back elbow. If he goes back here, he's
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: got to make a move. If he releases, he's got
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  Speaker 3: to throw. And I'm like, man, I've been playing this
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: game for fifteen years, no one's ever talked about the
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: pitcher's back elbow.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: We're all watching feet.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: But the best in the world are working at another
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: level because they've got guys like Mike Santos around them
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: that learned all these things and they're passing that knowledge along.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: So if there's an opportunity for you to get into
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: hyper learning environments, you have to do it, and you
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: have to go with a humble heart, with an open mind.
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  Speaker 4: Ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: And if you're ready for that, I want you to
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• 49:55
  Speaker 3: your team to the next level.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And Trent give him a brief over youa what your podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Want to get back to the subjects, but everybody gets
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  Speaker 1: an idea what you've done both as an author as
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  Speaker 6: Very good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I have a word winning podcast at about one hundred
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  Speaker 2: I'm a I think what you're what you're doing is great.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, And a quick question. You know the
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  Speaker 2: buzzword we hear all over the place. In fact, I
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  Speaker 2: was listening to on my Alex I listened to sports
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  Speaker 2: radio in different cities every day. I was listening to
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  Speaker 2: Boston today and they were talking about this buzzword that
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  Speaker 2: I hear everywhere. Now with teams called culture, got to
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  Speaker 2: bring in a new culture, got to create a new culture.
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  Speaker 2: My thought always with teams was that it didn't matter
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: how hard I try, I couldn't create players that have
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: to create that culture themselves. What what do you think
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: about about that create?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think well, first of all, culture constantly shifts, right,
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  Speaker 3: It shifts and changes based on personnel, based on you know, geographics,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: based on UH values and and and what our missions
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  Speaker 3: are and what and how we're aligned in that those
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: are those are big things, and cultures do a lot
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: of shifting. And I I'm in the acquisition world right
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: where and and and athletics are very similar because you know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: free agency, we've changed players. So there's a lot of
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: acquisitions going on, and everyone thinks, like your culture is
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: going to stay the exact same, and then we're going
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: to buy another brand. I own an HVAC company, and
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: we're going to buy another HVAC company to expand our
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: geographic region.
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: And everyone's going to have the same values and the
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: same STU. They're not. You.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: You just change your culture entirely because you're bringing a
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: different mindset, a different way that things have been done.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: And so you've got to have a very stringent system
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: of how you work.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: And what's important.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: And you know, one of the questions I ask a
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: lot of teams, Mike, when I go into something new
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: and I go, Hey, what's not what's not accepted around here? Well, listen, man,
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: like don't take don't take Friday off at one o'clock
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: and take off. The boss will be pissed, Like no
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: one does that. Like don't wear jeans on Friday, don't
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: try to lie on your expense report, like everyone has
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: what's not allowed and they know and you can learn
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: a lot about the culture on what cultures tolerate and so,
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: but also what they're always pushing for and pushing people
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: up to the level. You know, one of the best
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: guys I was around with Nick Saban him enough this.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: He sets a very high standard and like, if you
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: don't go and try to give the effort to reach
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: that standard, that's an issue. He may you may not
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: get to his standard, which is very high, and he
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: holds himself with hountable to that too, but like you
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: may not get there, but man, he is never going
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: to allow anyone to come in under that standard. Like
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: he's calling you out immediately. So there's a culture like
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: you're coming here. This is what you said you want.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I want to shot at the NFL. I want to
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: shot at the National Championship. I want to come and
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: become the best.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Player the moment.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: You don't do that in his process, in his culture,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: he's calling you out and it doesn't matter a rep
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: in the weight room, didn't finish your your food at
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: meal planning time, didn't you relate for a meeting? Listen,
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: this is what you told me you want. I'm giving
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: you your chance. You better show up in every instance
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: because it's not tolerated or on him.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Great stuff, all right, just you know, know Trent Bryan
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Pennett said, we'll put it up on the screen so
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: you can see it is he just followed you on Spotify.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: There you go. So there you go. I got another
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: follower because see what happens to you. Come on Thursday.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I'm up to six. That's awesome.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: There you go. I told you, man, it's on the loubo.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I told you coming here on Thursday. Wouldn't regret it
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: when I gotta retired you wrong threats? Really? Okay, I'm
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: going to buy.
• 55:03
  Speaker 6: Your books, Rent, because I I love reading people's experience
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: with that kind of stuff. Because as way back when,
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: when there's a little less snow on the roof, when
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: I was in Special Forces, I was working in the
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: assessment and selection part of that, and a lot of
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: the same attributes that you look for in a professional athlete,
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: and like they say, building a culture, Uh, it's exactly
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: the same. It's you know, obviously a little different because
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: of the job. You know what they are, but we
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: look for the same kind of people and it has
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: to come from within that was the one thing, you know,
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: and you have to have that self discipline to be
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: able to look in the mirror and say, I know
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: I'm not good at this, and instead of working on
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: something else that I'm better at, I need to push
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: harder on this. And sometimes the hardest thing is asking
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: for help. That was one of the things we learned
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: about a lot of guys.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: You know, they can't ask for help when they come
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: through our selection and assessment process because that's all on them.
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: But that was designed, excuse me, to put them in
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: the worst possible position. You you wear them down physically,
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: they have no sleep, they have very little food, and
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: then they have to be able to think, ye while
• 56:38
  Speaker 6: they're out there physically worse. And if they can function
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: and think and come with, you know, solutions to problems,
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: that's the kind of guy you want, you know, because
• 56:51
  Speaker 6: you can train him to do a lot of other things,
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: but if he doesn't have that burning desire you know,
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: to learn, that's that's a big thing. But I'm definitely
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: going to buy your book. I can't wait to read
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: it now.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Thanks Steve.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you real quick that you know there's a
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: reason why all these employers want athletes and special forces, right.
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: They understand team, they're hyper learners, they're ready for feedback,
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: they're competitive like you just keep going down the list
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: of the things that these people bring, and Mike knows,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: like as a coach, we've sat there and go, oh, man,
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: like the barber, I'll take ten more just like him.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: I don't need someone that looks like the Barber. I
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: don't need someone with his skills. I want someone that
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: brings the effort every day, is a high quality teammate,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: is ready for feedback, is always willing to go the
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: extra mile to compete, you know, looks out for his
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: fellow man like you know, all those things, and he
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: shows our values in everything and he upholds them all
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: the time. It's not where he came from, how much
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: money he makes, what he looks like, That's not what
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: we're talking about when we want to clone Barber. We
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: want to clone the attributes that are so effective because
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: the way he contributes to our team. If I have
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: ten contributors like the Barber, we're winning world championships. And
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: that's what I want.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: Trent, there is only one Barber, baby, There's only one
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: of me.
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: There's only one the other guys out.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: There with the same name, but there's only one in me.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Cloning's coming, bro Cloning's coming, and you're gonna be hot.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: Hey. Can I say one thing about Saban though, Scott,
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: you mind if I say one thing about Savon. I
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: held him in the highest regard as a coach until
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: he built on things because of Nil and because of
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: the portal, and I kind of felt like this guy
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: had the rope by the tail and he should have adjusted,
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: adapted and made it work at Alabama because he's still
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: a young man essentially as a coach. As a coach,
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: you know, you got what's his name? He just took
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: the Raiders job.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I just was a little joy.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: Huh bet Carrol, thank you, thank you. I am my
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: brain's on hiatus. But yeah, I mean I just that
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: that disappointed me and him. I think any great coach
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: figures out a way to get it done, figures out
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: a way to overcome those barriers that's thrown to him.
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: And and Mike Santos there, he'll tell you about an
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: I l He knows that that's it. That's a whole
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: another ball wax, that's a different element that's been thrown
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: into college athletics, and that's it's trickled down to high school.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: To be quite honest with you, as a high school person. Uh,
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be interesting to see how that plays itself out.
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: But I haven't lost complete respect for for saving. But
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: I really wish he would have fought it a little bit.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: I wish he'd put up his dukes and went after
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: it a little bit.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Just just a little special note tour crew members Mike
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Sandles put his contact information in the chassis and johnath
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: done before the show goes over. Also, I want to
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: get to a two more topic before we go. I
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: know we're running right right on schedule. A little bit.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Two topics. You're not going to go that fast. If
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: there's a true America, and tell me that John Tortorella
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: is it. Because he said he drove back from the
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Four Nations tournament. It didn't take a charter flight home.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: He said there were a lot of Canadians on that
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: charter flight, so I decided to drive it. Now, Mike,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: what do you think about John Tortrealla? Do you know
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: this that I'll just say one thing. I gotta meet Tortorella.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says about now I need
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to meet Tortrello. This is my latest reason why I
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: wanted to. You know, what do you think about towards
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: Mike so On?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Tortorella played the same youth hockey program that I did
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: growing up, Yeah, at Valley And uh, he's older than
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: I am, so you know that. But what is Uh,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: his brother Jim actually is a little bit closer to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: my age and I'm very close with him. He was
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: until this year assistant coach at Harvard. Okay, now he's coaching.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: I believe he assistant coach at un H. But yeah,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: he's always been an intense guy, even as a young guys.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Intense guy. He's not a big guy, you know, play
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: that name and I think he I think he just
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: wears his heart on his sleep. Has it always been
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: the most friendly to media, Probably because he tells the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: media what he thinks sometimes and the media, the media
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: is used to just asking the questions and uh, and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: sometimes that they're not not comfortable getting something throwing back
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: at him. But yeah, he's just a he's just a
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: hard working guy. I don't think anybody that's had him
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: as a coach once. Uh, he's not their coach anymore
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: would say anything bad about him. I mean, he's he
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: drives him hard. But a lot of the things that
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Trent was just talking about, you know, there's things that
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: just aren't accepted. But the reason why they're not accepted
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: is because you told me you want to win a championship,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: you told me you want to be an All Star,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: you want this. Well, then this stuff's not accepted in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: my locker room. And so yeah, I think he's just
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: a hard driving guy, has always been like that, and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: he's he's you know, he's gonna tell you what he thinks.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: He's no surprises, but he's also gonna be there for
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: you when you when you need something too.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just an f I I if you don't say,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: if you don't stand up for the national anthem, that's
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: one way ticking into Tortorella's downkhouse, you better stand up
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: for it. He's gonna shit you. I'm just gonna leave
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: it at that. So, all right, what are your thoughts
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: ran about Tortilla? All right?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I love it, man. I love it like hey redh.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: No sign language so speaking.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I love it, man.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: I love it like he's uh, you know. I love
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: the guy that just like, I'm not taking the plane
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: with these guys. I just think he stands for something,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: you know, And like, hey, listen, you meet someone if
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: you don't stand for you know, if you don't stand
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: for something, then anything's coming right, like, you know. And
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: and I think he's a passionate guy that clearly wears
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: his heart on his sleeve. Probably been a little you know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: it probably looks a little misguided sometimes, I'm sure from
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: the outside looking in. But I think he's a pretty
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: consistent guy, which I think is really important. If you're
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: gonna be that guy who's gonna be hard on your sleeve,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: go at it one.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think anyone ever.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Doubts Tortorella's effort and his willingness and commitment in the
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: whole deal. And I just think that's who you want
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: at the helm. And uh, yeah, I've been.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: Impressed with the guy. Hey there's Steve. You might have
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: a new nickname, man, Steve the Bulldog ballast.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Years alright, I got the bulldog here, all right, go ahead,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: all right, keep it going there. Or he said, well,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this much about what he said about
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: this Canadian thing. This is I ninety five from Boston
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. I hear him to say that if he's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: taking it tent from Jacksonville in California, he'll fly with
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: the Canadians then. But I ninety five from Boston to
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Philadilah is like a walk in the park. Like I
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've taken that drive, but I can
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: tell you now since we're both off Florida, guys, I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: can only imagine that probably our drive for us will
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: probably to what west Palm Beach or Via Beach. That
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: isn't that bad. But I've give him credit for patriots
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: his patriotism about you know, not Rydal wanting to ride
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: with the Canadian don't tell me to You're gonna take
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: that driving night then from east to west. You'll tolerate
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: the Canadians because Texas is flat and boring. I life testers,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: But that drive to get through one state for twenty hours, no, allan,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I don't want it, although I've taken it all right parts,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: think about it. I still love you. Still want to
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: me all right? Go ahead?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: I love Torderello, I don't. I don't like him as
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: a opposing coach, but as if by hey me Steve Tortorello,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: We'll sit down, break bread dipping in oil. But no,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: I love you, No, no, Steve, Please, this guy wants
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: barmesan on their breath. Hey listen, he is old school.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: He's old school. He's going to demand the most out
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: of you. And I think that's where we have lost
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: a lot of our young athletes today. They don't want
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: to go that extra mile like these guys push him to.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: And I see it, you know, Like I said, I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: work at the high school level. I coached at the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: high school level, high school football forever, as a head
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: coach whatever. And man, the kids think that everything should
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: be dropped in their lap, whether it's at the high
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: school to college or the professional level today. And Tortorella's
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: just doesn't believe in that. And that's one of my
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: favorite things about him. Like, no matter what, I don't
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: care who he's coaching. I may not like him when
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: my team is playing him, but as far as the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 5: message he brings and what he expects, that's a whole
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: other level of respect from me.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: So what do you think, Steve?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know Tortorella is He's a fiery guy. He
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: shoots from the hip, he's not very popular with the media.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: But as my friend Pat Burns was known. Now, if
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: you knew Pat Burns, Pat wasn't a favorite of the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: media either, But when if you knew him after the
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 6: cameras were turned off, he was a completely different person.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: And he just never had that comfort level. He was
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 6: burned by the media a couple of times earlier in
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 6: his career, so he you know, he was just never
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: that guy. But you know, I I kind of like Tortorella.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 6: I just wonder, you know, with as fiery and passionate
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: as he is, I wonder, you know, when he takes
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: over a team, if he has a limited shelf life
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 6: before the players start to turn him off, because I mean,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: he takes that fire to another level. You know we've
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: seen that. But I mean, he's a guy. I would
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: love to sit down and talk to him. I can
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: tell you that I think he's he's he's a fascinating coach.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: What Mike, what's he with? Is he with his ninth
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: team or something? I mean, it's all I don't think exactly.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: Mike Keenan had more teams than him. Mike Keenan made
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: the round. Yeah, he didn't last more than one or
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: two years. John Toward rows stick around. He doesn't have
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: a Stanley Company pocket, right, Mike.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I know Towards and I actually worked
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: with Keenan for a couple of years. But yeah, I mean,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: does he have a shelff? Sure? But I think that's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: why this is the perfect team for him. Philadelphia. They're rebuilding,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: they're young, They're very young, and so I think that
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: shelf life, if there is even one in Philadelphia, is
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: a lot longer because you know, like again we were
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: talking about before, with culture and and you know what's
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: not allowed here. I mean, it's much easier to impose
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: that and create that with a group of young guys
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: and with some veteran guys.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: And that's right.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: That's why I think he's he's the perfect guy right
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: now to build what they want to build in Philadelphia,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: which is to get back to those big, top, you know,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: in your face teams. That's what the Flyers have always
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: been known for. He'll he'll build that kind of team
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: with these young guys. It'll just take a few years.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Well, the only thing I know about what his current
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: situation will get to the final topic, and is he
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: got a player on that team that doesn't speak English.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: So I guess they have to find it especially communicate
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: on that team. And I don't know if you're a
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: coach and you have a player that doesn't speak English,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you work around Hessage.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't think.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: I think he sees turning red and freaking out.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he doesn't need to understand the language to
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  Speaker 3: know when Tort's pissed, right, Like I think I think
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  Speaker 3: probably Torts is the perfect guy.
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  Speaker 4: You don't need.
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  Speaker 3: It's not it's like sign language, man, like you know
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: exactly what he's saying, the emotions all over his face, right,
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  Speaker 3: I love.
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  Speaker 4: I love what the barber said.
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  Speaker 3: You know two things I have in the book, Roger stawback, Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know there's no traffic jams along the extra mile
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  Speaker 3: and a great strength coach Ken Manny out of Michigan State.
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  Speaker 3: Don't just go the extra mile, build your house on it.
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  Speaker 3: That's a guy like Towarts Man. He's he's he's he's
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  Speaker 3: preaching that man like, this is where you find your game.
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  Speaker 3: And hockey's always been an effort game. And and what
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: I've really been impressed with the money coming up in
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: hockey and it's not you know, it's not baseball money yet.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: But what I've really been about impressed with the hockey
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  Speaker 3: is that it's not changing guys. They're not going soft.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that All Stars showing up in kind of
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  Speaker 3: half ass and it's been like hopefully they get that out,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: but they're going hard man like no one's no one's
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  Speaker 3: letting off the gas because of some contract.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a pretty impressive thing.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, topic of the night, Hey Scott, one last comment
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  Speaker 5: for you. Mischikoff can put the biscuit in the basket
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  Speaker 5: toward Row. Doesn't care about what he speaks or how
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  Speaker 5: he speaks it as long as that kid scores.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, there you go. I'll you got the
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  Speaker 1: last word on that one. It doesn't matter what as
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  Speaker 1: long as you put that black biscuit into and that goal.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay. And I may not be the most color
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  Speaker 1: coordinated with eyes, but I can associate that set of
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  Speaker 1: colors there. All right, final talk to night. Really easy
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  Speaker 1: right now? Well, it looks like the Red Wings and
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  Speaker 1: the Columbus Blue Jackets are going at it trying to
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: find out what the latest score is, but they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be playing in the stadium there is at the Stadium
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  Speaker 1: Classic out in Columbus. So let's talk about the event itself, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about the Columbus Blue Jackets and
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  Speaker 1: the Detroit Red Wings aka the Ohio State Buckeyes and
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: the Michigan Wolverine playing in a ninety three, ninety thousand
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  Speaker 1: seat building called Ohio State Ohio Stadium and the horseshoes.
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  Speaker 1: That pretty cool stuff. The last time we saw anything
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  Speaker 1: like that was out in was it Michigan City when
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Toronto played both talk about the Michigan Ohio State Columbus
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Red Wings rivalry, Mike, we're seeing the game will get
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  Speaker 1: it up underscore in Detroit, but pretty good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's nice this year because
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  Speaker 2: both teams are actually fighting for wildcard spots right now,
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  Speaker 2: so that that helps helps a lot. As far as
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  Speaker 2: the event itself, I thought the NHL had something that
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  Speaker 2: was theirs when they had that one game on New
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  Speaker 2: Year's Day every year, something that everybody knew when it
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  Speaker 2: was could look forward to it. But like happens, I
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  Speaker 2: guess in life is people can't help themselves. And now
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  Speaker 2: you know, they've got six or eight or ten of
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  Speaker 2: these every year all over the place, and I think
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  Speaker 2: it gets less attention. So I'd like, I'd like Tom
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  Speaker 2: to see them go back to just having one outdoor
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  Speaker 2: game on New Year's Day, especially now the way that
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  Speaker 2: college bowl games are spread out all over the place
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: and the national championship playoff system works, and uh, and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: let them get all the attention on one day for
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  Speaker 2: one big, one big outdoor game.
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  Speaker 1: Makes sense for whatever it's worth. Of Michigan, We'll raise
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  Speaker 1: in Ohio state buckets owned the last two college football
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  Speaker 1: national championships and the other the stage is set for Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: all right, go ahead, Trent.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like Mike's idea, right.
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  Speaker 3: I like the scarcity of it right of just having
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  Speaker 3: that one big annual And I really enjoyed that.
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  Speaker 4: By the way.
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  Speaker 3: Also, like my son who's a huge Buckeye fan, and
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: we live in Michigan, so you know, we have hockey
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  Speaker 3: in Michigan, and then we you know, he's a Buckeye guy, so's.
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  Speaker 4: He's on Cloud nine.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: He's on permigrant since that national championship, and you know,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: from from that side of like the series, like hockey's
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: awesome with a fifteen eighteen thousands seed stadium, Like the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: NHL's really figured that out. It's a great spectator sport.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be arguably the best spectator sport out there.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: And I know the NFL wants to talk about it,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: but the NHL is fast and it's furious, and there's
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: too much downtime in the NFL. There's too many commercial timeouts.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: The NHL's got something that everybody else doesn't have, and
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: part of it's the experience. I think the stadium's ticket,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: it's a terrible ticket, right, Like you can't see the game.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: So the pageantry thing is kind of a cool concept.
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  Speaker 4: I think one a year is more than enough.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: I love this concept right now with the Michigan Ohio
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: State thing and and the and the battle and the
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: Big Horseshoe and the Red Wings and Columbus, and also
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: it's timely because they are both battling it out. That's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: it's great that Detroit got back in this thing, so
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: it'll be it'll be a great game. But you know
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: the other thing is like, uh, these the ice and
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: the conditions are pretty poor on some of the ice.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: It really affects the quality of play in the game,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: and like, man, when you're in it, like these two
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: teams where points matter.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna play a game on soft ice, and
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: I know they both got to deal with the conditions.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: But man, that's that's not what these guys need right now, Like, uh,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: they want every edge they can get, not not to
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: have disadvantages.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Well, the only thing I'll say is that game they
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: had the Lake Tahoe is a mitigating disaster on the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: ice melted. But we will get into that since we're
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  Speaker 1: running a little short.
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  Speaker 2: The first game they ever did, you know, ended up
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: it looked great. Let me tell you something that wasn't
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: great playing in the middle of that snowstorm between the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Penguins and the Sabers and the yeah yeah guys could
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: barely push the puck down the ice because there was
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: so much snow on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good points, Okay, Mark some thoughts and them
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  Speaker 1: we have Steve and then we'll wrap it up. Two
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  Speaker 1: games a year.
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  Speaker 5: One of them needs to be the Heritage Classic up
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  Speaker 5: in Canada. I think the two Canadian teams need to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: play one. I think the other one can be in
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: the it can be in the States. I think those
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: teams need to earn their way to that privilege. I
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  Speaker 5: think that you need to pick a smaller venue though
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: having it in a large stadium is just a money grab.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: I'm all down with that at all. You know, I
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: liked it initially, you know, going back ten years and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 5: watching it, it was fantastic. I watched it as it's
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: going on in time, you know, we're trying to spread
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  Speaker 5: it around the country and it's just not the same
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  Speaker 5: appeal to me.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's almost like an All Star game from that perspective.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: So that that's my take on it.
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  Speaker 1: I just it'sh no. While I have a chance, I
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  Speaker 1: want to acknowledge a lot of people in chatman Mickey
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  Speaker 1: to lay anythings in their contribution. Droy Lee Klack, great
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  Speaker 1: a little while. So with that said, Steve, if you
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  Speaker 1: have the final word on this, and then we'll wrap
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: this show up. Mike Santos. I want to point out though,
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  Speaker 1: have Mike onn And again, this show is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit longer. It's our first act here. We have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of great crew members and a lot of great
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  Speaker 1: to talk about, and they normally last about sixty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Every now and then they'll go over a little bit more,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: especially on the introductory show. But when you have so
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: many good guys, I don't cut anybody off. I'd rather
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  Speaker 1: tell I get a leave for myself and put the
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  Speaker 1: emphasis on the rest of the guy here the stars
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  Speaker 1: as I'm not just screw it up, all right, Steve,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I love the you know, the outdoor games I do.
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  Speaker 6: I mean yeah, I mean, it's never going to be
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  Speaker 6: perfect because of the conditions outside, but you know, there's
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  Speaker 6: there's just something about it. It brings you back to
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  Speaker 6: when you were a kid playing out on a pond
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  Speaker 6: before anything started, right. You know, there's there's something about
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  Speaker 6: that whole thing that I just I really like it.
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  Speaker 6: If they want to cut it down to two games.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't be totally against that. It would
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  Speaker 6: make it more exclusive, I think, uh and and I
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  Speaker 6: agree one of the games should be in Canada. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: they don't have to play each other. I think you
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  Speaker 6: could have, you know, a game would you know, original
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  Speaker 6: six teams like up in Toronto or Montreal. And I
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  Speaker 6: think that would be really cool. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I think that, you know, it's good for
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  Speaker 6: the game. I think fans get into it. They don't
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  Speaker 6: need to be playing it in some you know, one
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  Speaker 6: hundred thousand seat football stadium though. No, it needs to
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 6: be a little more intimate, you know, and and bring
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  Speaker 6: the fans in closer. The problem with those big arenas
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: or football stadiums like that, the fans are so far away.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you might as well be watching it on TV,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: you know, because you're too far away from it. That's
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  Speaker 6: you know, it was a dump. But the old Boston
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  Speaker 6: Garden That's why I loved it, because you were right.
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  Speaker 1: On top of everything. Yeah, you know. And I was
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  Speaker 1: at the nineteen eighty two final Poort one. Michael Jordan
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  Speaker 1: was there at the Superdome and I had no bleed seats.
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  Speaker 1: You can only managine what these are like. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean O late when I would the all way and
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  Speaker 1: anything I'll say about it is I agree with everybody
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  Speaker 1: on the panel. One in Canada one of the United
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  Speaker 1: States that you don't want to get down but some
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: money grab what can you say? Royally Quack makes a
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  Speaker 1: quick point here. Get teams that are competitive for the
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  Speaker 1: outdoor game. You'd like to do that, but sometimes seasons
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: turn on a little differently and it doesn't always work
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  Speaker 1: out that way. But I understand where this guy's coming from,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna doubt what he has to say.
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  Speaker 1: Great show tonight. I want to have Candy in for
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  Speaker 1: one more station break and then everybody can talk about it.
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