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Speaker 1: with Jaguars defensive coordinator Mike called Well. He joined Jeff
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Speaker 1: Loghuman and me on Jaguars Happy Our Radio Thursday afternoon.
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Speaker 1: It's been a whirlwind since being hired, all trying to
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Speaker 1: balance building a defensive scheme, adding free agent players, and
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Speaker 1: preparing for the NFL Draft. How has it been the
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Speaker 1: first few months settling in as a coaching staff here together?
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Speaker 1: Been been great? Really, a lot of work that's going in.
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Speaker 1: Everyone excited trying to get in, get the scheme going,
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Speaker 1: get the lay of the land, and just uh excited,
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Speaker 1: ready to go, ready to get the players in here.
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Speaker 1: How many how many guys on the defensive staff did
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Speaker 1: you have a relationship with prior to be a name
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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator? Pretty much everyone except uh coach Gilbert
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Speaker 1: and coach Sutton everyone else. Uh, I knew those guys
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Speaker 1: from whether it's from Arizona or Philadelphia or even Tampa Bay.
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Speaker 1: So uh, the staff is it really came together pretty
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Speaker 1: pretty good, and you know we're in there. We're grinding
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Speaker 1: it out and just ready to go. Now what is it?
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Speaker 1: I think next week the players are allowed to be
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Speaker 1: and you guys aren't allowed to put your hands on
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Speaker 1: them just yet. But how nice will that be? Because
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Speaker 1: when you coach, you gotta have players, and so now
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Speaker 1: the players will finally be coming in here in about
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Speaker 1: a week or so. Yeah, it's a offseason strange. You
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Speaker 1: can meet the guys, but you're unable to coach the guys.
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Speaker 1: And I consider coaches teachers, so it's hard to be
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Speaker 1: a teacher when you have no one to teach. So
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Speaker 1: we're teaching and bouncing things off each other now and
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Speaker 1: I'm real excited ready to get the players then here
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Speaker 1: so we can let them have it and understand and
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Speaker 1: see what they grasp and what they don't then get
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Speaker 1: it to them another way. Yeah, that's the thing I
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Speaker 1: might call it. Well, that's the Jaguars defensive coordinator here
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars happy hour. You can have a defensive scheme
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Speaker 1: in mind, a plan, put some things in, but then
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Speaker 1: if the players and the personnel have a different way
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Speaker 1: of doing it or can't you know, or have different things,
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Speaker 1: you have to adjust on the fly. That's what this
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Speaker 1: offseason is about, figuring out what your your players do
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Speaker 1: best right exactly. That's where the camps come in. As
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Speaker 1: soon as we can get there and get them out
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Speaker 1: able to run around and go against the offense. Now
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Speaker 1: we can actually see what guys can do. And I'm
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Speaker 1: a big believer of if you can do it well,
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Speaker 1: let them do that. Don't ask them do something they
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Speaker 1: don't do well. So I would need to find out
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Speaker 1: what everyone can do well and will uh scheme it
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Speaker 1: around their ability. So with a part of this process,
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Speaker 1: when you have a new staff and and first time
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, everybody's got to learn to speak the same language. Okay,
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Speaker 1: everybody needs to know the pirate or a spike or
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Speaker 1: a ram or all these different terminologies. Are are you
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Speaker 1: starting to get to that point where everybody is starting
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Speaker 1: to speak the same language. We're trying to there's uh
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Speaker 1: pat Riley, he's a holdover from the last half brilliant guy,
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Speaker 1: and he's really our quality control, so he handles most
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Speaker 1: of the playbook stuff, so we're actually putting it on
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Speaker 1: him to make sure everyone's speaking the same language. You
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Speaker 1: might call the halfback of R and everyone else calls
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Speaker 1: it an eight. So that's the type of stuff that
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Speaker 1: we're working through right now, and it's going great. The
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Speaker 1: guys are there really receptive of learning new things because
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Speaker 1: it's like you said, with terminology, it's gonna be different.
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna call it to what you've called it
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Speaker 1: for the last four or five years, so you're gonna
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Speaker 1: have to understand it and learn it and be able
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Speaker 1: to teach it once the players get here. The full
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Speaker 1: interview available on the Jaguars Happy Our Radio podcast, including
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Speaker 1: his breakdown of the newly acquired free agents. That's on
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Speaker 1: the Official Jaguars Podcast network, of course, or the archive
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Speaker 1: available on Jaguars social media. Now to Jags Drive Time
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Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, ashe and Sullivan, John Osan and Brian Sexton
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Speaker 1: visited with Jaguars center Tyler Shatley. And there's been plenty
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Speaker 1: new with a long time Jaguar the last few weeks. Tyler,
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Speaker 1: how are we doing this morning. We're doing great. Uh,
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Speaker 1: but up for a while with the kids. Are you
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Speaker 1: watching a couple episode duck Tails? I'm ready to go.
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Speaker 1: Just a normal morning in the shat Lee household. We
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Speaker 1: wanted to say congratulations the third member of the shot
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Speaker 1: Lee's born last week. Are we getting some sleep? How's
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Speaker 1: how's the house doing? Yeah? You know, Uh, we're doing good.
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of used to it now. My wife's doing
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Speaker 1: a lot of the work and then I'm just helping
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Speaker 1: out with older kids wherever I can so and and
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Speaker 1: they're the easy ones, you know. They're they're able to
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Speaker 1: go with me, run errand and stuff. So we're doing great. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: they're here at the facility. I see them all the time.
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Speaker 1: How are they like in being a big brother and
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Speaker 1: big sister? Oh man, they've been awesome. They love it.
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Speaker 1: My son, he's five, he's doing a great job. We
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Speaker 1: do have to remind him not to get the baby
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Speaker 1: out of the crib. He did that the other day.
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Speaker 1: But he's also he understands how fragile he is. Our daughter,
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Speaker 1: she is not quite three yet, and she doesn't understand that,
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Speaker 1: so we have to keep a closer eye on her.
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Speaker 1: She is uh she's more than one accolds him, and
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Speaker 1: then when she's done, she's done. She's you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: just on dropping us, so we have to keep an
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Speaker 1: eye on her. Very funny. Well, we spoke earlier this offseason,
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Speaker 1: and you had so much going on at that point.
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Speaker 1: Your wife was pregnant, you have two kids, and you
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Speaker 1: entered this offseason with so much uncertainty. And now with
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Speaker 1: this new contract, I have to believe, it's just such
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Speaker 1: relief to know you're gonna stay in Jacksonville with your family, right,
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Speaker 1: it's great. Like you said, stay in Jacksonville with the family. Um,
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Speaker 1: that's huge. You know that this is home for them,
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Speaker 1: his home for me. Um, So it feels great to
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Speaker 1: stay here. And also just to be on a two
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Speaker 1: of your contract, you know, knowing that I don't have
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Speaker 1: to go through free agency again next year, it is
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Speaker 1: a huge relief. Yeah, And you've been here nine years
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Crazy to believe, and you've been known as
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Speaker 1: such a reliable guy on this team. When your numbers called,
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Speaker 1: you get in there and you do the job. And
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Speaker 1: now with this new contract, you're the guy to have
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars believe in you and to get that spot
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Speaker 1: has to feel good as well, because you've worked so
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Speaker 1: hard for this for so many years, right, Like you said,
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Speaker 1: I've just been here a long time. And uh it's
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Speaker 1: nice to have have them kind of show like, hey,
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Speaker 1: like we believe in you and uh, you know, s
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Speaker 1: excided to get back to work. Yeah, and tell me
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Speaker 1: about your guy, Brandon Linder, who has announced his retirement.
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Speaker 1: I can imagine many boat rides in his future. Have
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Speaker 1: you had any conversations with him that's exted him. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, we talked the day that he did that
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Speaker 1: he retired. Um, you know, obviously he was going through
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Speaker 1: a lot then. UM. I told like, man, I know
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Speaker 1: you're probably getting blown ups, so just uh, we'll catch
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Speaker 1: up later. And I think we're going to plan to
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Speaker 1: try to do something sometime soon. But yeah, what a
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Speaker 1: great career for him, you know, awesome point are, awesome leader.
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Speaker 1: I'm just so I'm so glad that I got to
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Speaker 1: play with him and we got to work together. I
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Speaker 1: don't see any videos of us together. The god yeah,
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Speaker 1: there you go. But what a great you know, what
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Speaker 1: a great career. I'm so happy for him that you know,
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Speaker 1: he gets to, you know, step into the next chapter.
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Speaker 1: Of his life and you know, hope I can still
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Speaker 1: three three two thousand onto the Huddle Up Podcast. Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: we're inside three weeks to the NFL Draft and its
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Speaker 1: prospect visit time around the National Football League. Each team
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Speaker 1: can bring up to thirty prospects to their building for
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Speaker 1: pre draft visits. NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks has multiple
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Speaker 1: perspectives on talking to prospects, currently as a TV analyst,
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Speaker 1: but also earlier in his career in a football front office.
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Speaker 1: Either before or after the interviews, when you're kind of
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Speaker 1: warming them up and talking to him, you try and
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Speaker 1: get a little insight. Sometimes if they're in studio and
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Speaker 1: you have a chance to like pop on some tape
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Speaker 1: with them, you get a better feel for what they
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Speaker 1: know and they're maybe reasoning or rational behind some of
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Speaker 1: the things that they made the decision they made on
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Speaker 1: the field, and so it can provide some perspective that
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Speaker 1: that helps you. The one that stands out to me
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Speaker 1: was Pat Mahomes came in studio before the draft, and
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Speaker 1: I remember at the time, I don't know if DJ
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Speaker 1: had him in the top fifty. I didn't have him
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Speaker 1: as like a first round pick. He was kind of
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Speaker 1: like a wild child. But then when we sat down
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Speaker 1: an interviewed his recall, Like we could ask him about
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Speaker 1: a play and he could like really drill down and
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Speaker 1: give you great detail and his memory of things that
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Speaker 1: happened in his sophomore year and all that. It just
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Speaker 1: made you kind of sit back and you're just like,
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Speaker 1: that's that's beyond normal. And we've kind of found like
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Speaker 1: with great players and those things, they kind of have
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Speaker 1: their recall ability that you could ask them to play
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Speaker 1: from high school and they could walk you through every
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Speaker 1: step of what happened and how they were able to
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Speaker 1: have success of failure on the play. Is that a
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Speaker 1: similar mindset for personnel people coaches in the building when
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Speaker 1: these prospects come in here is it? Is it the
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Speaker 1: same idea? Do you want to sit them down in
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Speaker 1: front of the the white board and draw outs things,
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Speaker 1: look at film with them? And what happens during prospect
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Speaker 1: visits we got obviously this week Aidan Hutchinson put out
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Speaker 1: an Instagram video that he was here. There's been a
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Speaker 1: few other prospects and it's that time of year. What
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Speaker 1: happens in one of those building visits for these prospects, Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, like when you you bring and guys like
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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson UM and you have an opportunity to to
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Speaker 1: be around him here the four twenty four hours, so
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Speaker 1: you get to bring him to build and do everything
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Speaker 1: that you want to do with him during throughout the
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Speaker 1: course of the day. So that's a few different meetings, uh,
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Speaker 1: from the de coordinator to his position coach, two people
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Speaker 1: around the building, getting the field for who he is
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Speaker 1: and how he kind of fits into the culture that's
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Speaker 1: established within the organization. And then with those meetings, what
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Speaker 1: you're doing is you're beginning to assess where he is
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Speaker 1: from an i Q standpoint, how he learns, how he communicates,
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Speaker 1: what maybe his preferred UM coaching style or the most
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Speaker 1: effective coaching style that works for him. Uh, you watch
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Speaker 1: tape together and you're able to kind of get a
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Speaker 1: better field for how does he plan his process on
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Speaker 1: the field. So for Hutchinson, like, Okay, this is this
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Speaker 1: now versus I went to Big ten championship game, you
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Speaker 1: gotta sack what were you thinking? And if he's able
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Speaker 1: to walk you through those kinds of things, you now
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Speaker 1: have a better understanding. Okay, when we get him here,
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Speaker 1: Uh has a great i Q. So now we can
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe accelerate the process or Okay, this guy may
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Speaker 1: be challenge in a couple of different areas. Howard, what's
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Speaker 1: the best way for us to get to him? Is
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Speaker 1: it more visual stuff? Is it more auditory? Does he
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Speaker 1: need more walkthroughs? So you're trying to get a feel
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Speaker 1: for who he is from a football character standpoint, but
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Speaker 1: then you're also trying to figure out if he's with us,
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Speaker 1: draft talk. The Southeastern Conference has players all over the
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Speaker 1: top prospect rankings. What's new, of course, most notably this year,
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Speaker 1: it's a couple of play years that have been mocked
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Speaker 1: to the Jaguars at number one overall. I caught up
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Speaker 1: this week with Cole Cublic of SEC Network. He's the
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Speaker 1: field analyst for SEC Saturday night games with Tom Hart
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Speaker 1: and former Jaguar quarterback Jordan Rodgers. The former Auburn center
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Speaker 1: gave us a great breakdown of Georgia defensive lineman Trayvon
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Speaker 1: Walker and Alabama left tackle Evan Neil. If you put
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Speaker 1: the film on from two years ago, you absolutely saw
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Speaker 1: him flash. And it's one of the things that we
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Speaker 1: have to keep remembering about this Georgia team is that
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Speaker 1: there there's guys. I mean, they've they've been putting guys
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Speaker 1: in the league for a few years now, so it's
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Speaker 1: not like all of a sudden they just stepped up
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Speaker 1: and had two or three good players along the front seven.
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Speaker 1: There have been a couple that have moved on the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, but when he was a younger player,
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Speaker 1: he was He was absolutely a guy that you saw
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Speaker 1: that would stick out and would flash and could do
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Speaker 1: different things that you were impressed by. I just think
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Speaker 1: this past season, number one, his versatility was really able
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Speaker 1: to They really showed it off this last year, moving
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Speaker 1: him inside, moving him outside, having the capabilities to be
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Speaker 1: able to kind of live outside even though you know
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Speaker 1: he's pretty thick in stature, and being able to go
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Speaker 1: down inside and still being able to hold up. And
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Speaker 1: I think that's where his primary value is going to be.
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Speaker 1: Is he can play a heavy handed brand of football
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Speaker 1: and hold up inside yet still be loose enough and
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Speaker 1: offer you enough quickness to be outside if you need him.
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Speaker 1: And I just I think that combination something not a
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Speaker 1: lot of guys have. I mean, of course, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: talk a lot about his teammate and Jordan Davis, who
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Speaker 1: is just an absolute boulder, somebody you're not gonna be
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Speaker 1: able to move, but a totally different type player as
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Speaker 1: far as what he's gonna be able to do and
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Speaker 1: what he's gonna be asked to do most likely. So
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Speaker 1: I think Trayvon is gonna be a great pro And
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Speaker 1: I think that when you start to get up in
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Speaker 1: the top ten, top five, first overall, pick whatever it is,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna need someone coachables. And that's where most guys
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Speaker 1: have come off the board that earlier are gonna offer
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Speaker 1: you things that you can't get anywhere else. You're not
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Speaker 1: gonna necessarily develop, like nobody's going to develop Jordan davis
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Speaker 1: Is size or Evan Neil size, or the kind of
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Speaker 1: speed that you're gonna get from certain receivers or corners,
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Speaker 1: things of that nature. So when you start deciding between
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Speaker 1: two or three different guys, you find those intangibles that
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Speaker 1: are I guess God given that you're not going to
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Speaker 1: be able to develop or work your way into or
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Speaker 1: just find, and those become more valuable. Told Public with
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Speaker 1: Us from SEC Network, former Auburn Center and a contributor
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Speaker 1: on w j o X radio in Birmingham, Alabama. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's head down to Tuscaloosa. Well, the word around here
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Speaker 1: Coal is that they're trying to work on an extension
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Speaker 1: for Cam Robinson at left tackle. They've franchise tagged him
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Speaker 1: and they're in the process of working through it. Well.
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Speaker 1: That said, there are still mocks that have Evan Neel
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Speaker 1: up there, and of course in the whole kind of
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Speaker 1: offseason leading into this month, there have been Evan Neil's
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Speaker 1: sightings at the top of mock drafts to the Jaguars,
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Speaker 1: but he didn't work out of the combine. He did
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Speaker 1: just a few days ago and his pro day at Tuscaloosa.
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Speaker 1: He's moved around a few different positions on the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: Played left tackle last year. Is that a positive or
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Speaker 1: a negative for you? That he couldn't really find one
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Speaker 1: home throughout his career? Oh? No, it's it's absolutely a
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Speaker 1: positive because when he arrived on campus, you you you
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Speaker 1: were set at left tackle, so he didn't need him there,
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Speaker 1: and so he played a little bit of left guard.
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Speaker 1: And then I mean, you gotta think you had Alex
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Speaker 1: Leatherwood playing left tackle, who was the first round pick
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Speaker 1: to the Raiders, and so you you test him out
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Speaker 1: at right tackle, and you know, he gives you a
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Speaker 1: little bit there. He goes down to guard and he
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Speaker 1: gives you a little bit there. My biggest fear with
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Speaker 1: Evan Neil was when he went from guard to tackle,
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Speaker 1: and just was he going to be able to have
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Speaker 1: the feet to be able to do it and the
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Speaker 1: lateral quickness and agility to be able to do it, because, honestly, JP,
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Speaker 1: when when you see him, when you get up next
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Speaker 1: to him, he looks too big at time, at least
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Speaker 1: he did. He's not anymore because he drops down to
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Speaker 1: down to three thirty down um, but he's leaned out
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Speaker 1: a lot, and I don't think that's gonna hurt his
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Speaker 1: game because when going back to what we talked about
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Speaker 1: with those intangibles and those uncoachables, Evan Neil gives you
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Speaker 1: size that nobody else is really gonna offer. He just
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Speaker 1: he has that much mass and they're just not a
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Speaker 1: lot of individuals like that. So I think that part
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Speaker 1: makes him a valuable prospect, along with the fact that
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Speaker 1: he does have the lateral quickness he was able to
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Speaker 1: hold up. He's leaned out of out before the season
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Speaker 1: two and because when I talked to him earli in
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Speaker 1: the year last year, I think he said he played
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Speaker 1: in close to three fifty the previous year and he
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Speaker 1: was down near three thirty now. So he was fifteen
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Speaker 1: seventeen pounds lighter, and he held up five just as powerful,
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Speaker 1: no issues whatsoever. And that versatility helps him, especially if
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Speaker 1: you're saying, all right, we've got Trevor Lawrence, we've got
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Speaker 1: a couple of the pieces on the offensive line. This
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Speaker 1: may not have been his home, but we think he's
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Speaker 1: the best aligneman in the draft. Can we bring him
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Speaker 1: in and just find a spot for him. Therefore, you're
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Speaker 1: bringing in more assets to protect your most valuable asset, it's,
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Speaker 1: of course, is Trevor. So it would make sense to
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Speaker 1: me if you had him as the number one tackle
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Speaker 1: on your board, to just say, let's get him in.
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Speaker 1: Let's see if we can plug him. He has the
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Speaker 1: size and the strength that we don't think anybody else
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Speaker 1: is gonna have. We know he can play right, we
18:14
Speaker 1: know he can play guard. However it pans out, it
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Speaker 1: pans out, and just kind of see see what we
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Speaker 1: can do with it. And you know, I don't think
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Speaker 1: he's clearly the best tackle or the best lineman in
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Speaker 1: the draft, because I do think Ikia Kwanu is close.
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Speaker 1: I think he actually may be a more refined, more
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Speaker 1: polish tackle right now. But again, there's that ceiling factor
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Speaker 1: that Evan Neil brings, and I don't think Kanu has,
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Speaker 1: and some of that is just overall size and overall ability.
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Speaker 1: I think I think Evan offers you just a little
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Speaker 1: bit more there. The full interview with cool Cublic available
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars dot Com. More after this welcome back. Let's
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Speaker 1: wrap this week with Dan POMPEII of The Athletic. The
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Speaker 1: longtime NFL writer joined Jaguars dot Com senior writer John
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Speaker 1: Osan for the Ozone podcast at the NFL Annual meeting
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Speaker 1: last week, but the podcast posted earlier this week on
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Speaker 1: the official Jaguars podcast network. Pompey co authored Doug Peterson's
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Speaker 1: book Fearless back in ten following the Eagles Super Bowl championship,
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Speaker 1: and he explained the writing process with the new Jags
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Speaker 1: head coach and what the Jaguars are getting and a leader.
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Speaker 1: He was great, you know, and we had three major
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Speaker 1: interview times. Uh. Two of them were we spent weekends
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Speaker 1: together in the Philadelphia I went out to Philadelphia and
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Speaker 1: spent an entire weekend with him twice. Uh. And then
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Speaker 1: the third time was actually, oddly enough, at this very
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Speaker 1: hotel at the NFL meetings that year. We can't I
19:44
Speaker 1: came down here and spent some time here, and then
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Speaker 1: after that it was a lot of phone calls and
19:51
Speaker 1: texts or you know, emails, that kind of thing. So
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Speaker 1: it's his book that can be an invasive thing, even
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Speaker 1: if he's involved with it, and it sounds like he was.
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Speaker 1: He sort of guided it and easy to work with person,
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Speaker 1: no question. He was. Well, he was on board with
20:08
Speaker 1: the project, you know. So if he wasn't on board,
20:11
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have worked, you know, because he had to
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Speaker 1: really give freely of his time and you know himself
20:18
Speaker 1: really I had to tell his story and you know,
20:21
Speaker 1: do it without holding back. And he did that, and
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Speaker 1: it was it was a really enjoyable process. It was
20:26
Speaker 1: a difficult process from the standpoint of, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: it consumed me for a long period of time and uh,
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Speaker 1: but it was you know, it was good to be
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Speaker 1: done with it that way, no doubt. You mentioned something
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Speaker 1: about him at the very top that has fascinated me
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Speaker 1: for a while in terms of what it takes to
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Speaker 1: be NFL coach these days. And I go back to
20:47
Speaker 1: it because he said, Doug's really good at it. But
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Speaker 1: it really has become a job that I think is
20:53
Speaker 1: perhaps more about e Q about relationships than it is
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Speaker 1: about xs and os and unique successful head coach without
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Speaker 1: being a great as an those guy. If you've got
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Speaker 1: that point, do you agree with that? And how you know?
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Speaker 1: I guess to reiterate, Doug's really strong in that area. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: no question. You know, there's a lot of things obviously
21:13
Speaker 1: that go into being a successful head coach. Uh. And
21:17
Speaker 1: you know, I would never minimize the importance of strategy,
21:20
Speaker 1: but I think, um, that's something that you know, if
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Speaker 1: all you've got his strategy, I don't think you can
21:26
Speaker 1: be successful. Put it that way. And uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: Doug has the strategy part, and he has the e
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Speaker 1: Q part. As the game changes, as people change, as
21:36
Speaker 1: different things evolve, I think it's more important than it
21:40
Speaker 1: used to be. And it's funny because you know, you
21:42
Speaker 1: normally when you see a head coach change, you see
21:45
Speaker 1: the pendulum swings all the way. You know, it doesn't
21:47
Speaker 1: go halfway. And certainly that's what happened in Jacksonville, where
21:52
Speaker 1: you know, there were problems with the way that urban
21:54
Speaker 1: Meyer related to players and people around him, his employees
21:58
Speaker 1: and coaches everything. And and now I think you will
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Speaker 1: never have those problems with Doug how well did you
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Speaker 1: know did you know him before the book? And what
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Speaker 1: was your biggest thing that you learned in and I
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Speaker 1: working with him about him as a coach, well, um,
22:12
Speaker 1: you know I did not know him well before the book,
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Speaker 1: so it was kind of an education, uh to me
22:18
Speaker 1: too in terms of who he was. Um, I would say,
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Speaker 1: you know, the biggest the most interesting thing to me
22:27
Speaker 1: was talking about some of his playing career and how
22:31
Speaker 1: you know he had uh been on the fringes of
22:35
Speaker 1: an NFL roster for so long and what that was
22:37
Speaker 1: like and you know being uh you know the second
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Speaker 1: banana in Green Bay to Brett Farve and to Dan
22:44
Speaker 1: Marino in Miami, and you know what happened in Philadelphia
22:49
Speaker 1: where he thought he was going to be the starter
22:51
Speaker 1: at one point as a quarterback and he was supposed
22:54
Speaker 1: to be the starter and they kind of pulled the
22:56
Speaker 1: rug out from under him and that didn't happen. So, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, he he kind of experienced almost everything you
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Speaker 1: could experience as a player, and you know, lasted for
23:08
Speaker 1: a long time with with without ever really you know,
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Speaker 1: breaking through as a major you know, contributor in terms
23:16
Speaker 1: of being a starter. Uh, And I think, you know,
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Speaker 1: from that Kapbard seat, it really enabled him to kind
23:22
Speaker 1: of soak in a lot of knowledge and experience through
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Speaker 1: other people, and I think it helped him become a coach.
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