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- 0:04Thank you for listening to de Pictures Media Radio. You rat you readything to
- 0:31me? Oh well, jus well not a bad stop alone. I just
- 1:10see soap lash start along? Is it at these events? Welcome back everybody.
- 1:40To wrap up twenty twenty three, we're going to have the top five
- 1:46interviews I did with people who talked about relationships in building their business. They
- 1:53wanted to show us how we could use relationship building skills to attract customers and
- 2:01to retain those customers in our business so that we have a happy and fulfilling
- 2:13business that is full of our ideal customers. They also want to talk to
- 2:19talk about how instead of building systems that try to work again to against humanity,
- 2:30that we build systems that work with humanity, to work with our nature.
- 2:38How we naturally build relationships, and how we naturally just want to live
- 2:45our lives without worries of where's the next paycheck coming from or worries about where
- 2:54is that next customer going to come from? That we build their lives in
- 3:00a way that is centered around the human relationship and not centered around making money.
- 3:10So why don't we listen to some of the well, the top five
- 3:20interviews I did around this, and some of them are actually going to talk
- 3:23about how beautiful our human diversity truly is. So sit back and you're going
- 3:34to hear the first ten minutes of each of those interviews in this next hour.
- 4:10Welcome back. Everybind's our next guest. She is passionate and empathetic and
- 4:18she's into sales. Now now I know everybody. They have this idea of
- 4:26like the car salesman who's slimy, ekey, slimy, and he tries to
- 4:32talk in the things that you don't want. He tries to bulldoze you into
- 4:36into whatever car he can get you into. And that is not the ideal
- 4:44idea of selling. Selling isn't about teaching people to or trying to talk them
- 4:50into this hey garbage they don't want. Selling is really about building a relationship
- 4:58with a person so you understand what they're needs are, with their fears are,
- 5:00how they think kind of being that best friend so that when a need
- 5:08does come along that you can say, hey, I got something, they
- 5:13can help that. Okay. So one of the experts on that is a
- 5:20new friend of mine and she's really good good at being your friend is Darlene
- 5:27per Day and we connected over some over quite a quite a nupper things,
- 5:34because, after all, she's been selling for over twenty five years, and
- 5:39she's been in some of the one of the leadership roles of company sales departments,
- 5:46and she does it in an authentic way. She doesn't want to teach
- 5:51you selling so that you feel icky about it. She wants you to talk
- 5:57about your business in a way that people, Hey, they want to jump
- 6:00on board and be a part of what it is that you have to offer.
- 6:05They want you to want to invite you into their lives so that you
- 6:11can help them, so you can be of service. Relationships are the number
- 6:17one key that she says to building a good relationship is the key to selling,
- 6:28not trying to force feed a bunch of garbage that nobody really wants anyway,
- 6:35So why don't we listen to what Darlene has to say in our next
- 6:41episode to one Elene, my new best friend, welcome to the show.
- 6:54Thank you so much for having me, and yes, I love that we
- 6:56became instant besties. It turned out that we grew up in pretty much so
- 7:02close to the same area, and we found like a whole bunch of commonalities
- 7:10and more importantly, and this is why I wanted you to come on the
- 7:14show. And we're going to start off with you talking about use how you
- 7:17started in sales, but more I want to get in that conversation of how
- 7:23you build relationships because we both believe in strong relationships and that's the core to
- 7:30everything, and especially if you're trying to be in business in the community.
- 7:33Right. Yeah, absolutely, well getting started in sales, I feel like
- 7:40I'm in sales my whole life. I worked in retail for many years,
- 7:45so throughout high school and college. You know, that's how I paid my
- 7:48car insurance and all of that type of stuff. But I really developed a
- 7:54lot of those sales skills and relationship building, not even knowing it, being
- 7:59a kid being sixteen years old and not even realizing what I was doing,
- 8:05but seeing the results from the clients. The nice thing about sales is that
- 8:13if you look at it from the perspective of helping someone, it's really very
- 8:16rewarding. So working in retail, I was helping people find outfits or clothes
- 8:24or whatever it may be. And seeing that person really find what they want
- 8:28or seeing that perfect gift gives you that adrenaline rush. It gives you that
- 8:33dopamine right where you feel like you're making a different So that kind of got
- 8:37me hooked way back when. And then I just continued my path. And
- 8:43then eventually when I've sold retail, I've sold B two C, I've sold
- 8:50B to B and now I'm you know, in B to B and in
- 8:52coaching. Yeah, and well your coaching practice though you I did this crazy
- 9:03voice in your intro like that. You remember the late night TV the guy
- 9:09come buy this car. I did they create voice, you know, the
- 9:16big announcer. But everybody when they think about sales, they think about that
- 9:24slimy you know, the guy, the guy in the white suit, all
- 9:30this slick black hair, trying to sell you this hunk of junk car.
- 9:35Yeah, but selling is is Wait, that's not even close to what what
- 9:41you teach selling really is because you're teaching people to sit back, listen and
- 9:50build build friendships in relationships with people. Yeah, well, there's a huge
- 9:54difference between transactional sales and relationships sales. Even yes, at the end of
- 10:01the day, it's transactional to make a sale, but you could still build
- 10:05relationships if your goal of having that sales conversation is truly trying to help that
- 10:15person, And I say it's empathetic selling. Putting yourself in that person situation.
- 10:20What would you want to know? What would you want somebody to have
- 10:22your back? What would you want to be told about something to make sure
- 10:28it's the right fit, regardless of what the outcome is. That's where the
- 10:33magic happens, because the transaction is trust. You're building trust in that conversation,
- 10:41and you're building that relationship versus just getting a sale, because that leads
- 10:46to long term engagement, that leads to referrals, that leads to client satisfaction,
- 10:56and there's just a whole spray of beautiful things that happened when you enter
- 11:03that relationship with that mindset. Yeah, yeah, that's so true. I
- 11:13know when when I because because I guess I still am in sales, because
- 11:18I had to kind of well put this in quotation works. I had to
- 11:22sell you the idea of coming on to coming onto this podcast, right,
- 11:26and there's the whole process, and so I had this again in quotation works,
- 11:31sell you. But in that particular instance, it's more like an invitation.
- 11:37It's not like I did I did this, Uh, this farmer's market
- 11:46thing where we were selling these meat pies. Mm hmm. You had to
- 11:52scream over the top of the crowd, Hey, we got the best meat
- 11:54pies ever. Yeah, and that isn't that that that's who's the loudest voice
- 12:03in the crowd kind of kind of Yeah. And with what with Introgy bringing
- 12:11you on to the podcast and bring you on to the show, it's more
- 12:15of a gentle Hey, come on, I like what you what is you
- 12:18have to say? I like your message. You're spreading love around our planet,
- 12:26right, And there's huge differences between those, right. Yeah. And
- 12:31I think also what people don't realize is just because their title within their job
- 12:35is not sales, we all sell in some way, shape or form,
- 12:39whether it's pitching your ideas to your boss or true your clients, or sharing
- 12:46value or even convincing your husband to do another DIY project or you know,
- 12:54I'm not using that as you know still example or anything, but you know,
- 13:00we're always we're always selling things. And really, if you do it
- 13:07well, it's an art of listening, actively listening, understanding what the person
- 13:13is saying. So many times people have a sales script in their head where
- 13:20regardless what the person is saying, or what their pain points are or whatever.
- 13:24The other person is just trying to get out what they want to say,
- 13:28their information and they're not really taking that feedback. When you actively listen
- 13:35and again empathize with Okay, where is this person coming from, then you're
- 13:39going to be able to figure out is my solution the best thing for this
- 13:43person? You had that your view with me if it was two ways right.
- 13:50You were telling me about your podcast, but you were also seeing if
- 13:52I was going to be a good guest for your audience. So if that
- 13:56didn't happen, if one part failed, we could as friends. We could
- 14:01have a great conversation. So the end of that conversation still would have been
- 14:05a relationship, but not necessarily a guest for your show. Does that make
- 14:09sense? What something we can so fucking back everybody. I want to tell
- 14:41you a little bit about our next guest. As a little girl, she
- 14:46played hr and she's even sold shares of her own company. She fired her
- 14:54mother at the age of five, and she has been success people operations,
- 15:01consulting, business and speaking internationally while battling more diagnosises than a seventy year old
- 15:11She's had quite the journey and wouldn't have it any other way. She is
- 15:18neurodiverse, with things like bipolar, OCD and mesofania. She has physical diversions,
- 15:35multiple diagnoses, including a seizure disorder. She's successful with the diagnosis,
- 15:46not in spite of them. Her neurodiversity has become her superpower and her mission
- 15:54of inclusion, innovation, integrity, in enjoying, speaking, and providing actionable
- 16:04advice about diversity, inclusion and innovative hiring. She is hr tech, an
- 16:17entrepreneur, Nora diverse. She says, I am energetic and enjoy using comedy,
- 16:30but be aware I am bold and while I can certainly filter my language,
- 16:40I always tell it how it is and I wouldn't have it any other
- 16:47way. She is spoken in front of the United Nations delegates and aims London
- 16:55School of Business and many other places where she tries to spread this word of
- 17:03innovation, neurodiversity and inclusion. So we want to talk to her about how
- 17:10she got her business started, but we also want to want to hear how
- 17:15she advocates for inclusion. Something we can all right, So let's let's start
- 17:52off with you put in your bio. This this story of you being five
- 17:57and firing your mother. I just thought that was hilarious. So why don't
- 18:03we start off how you actually got started doing your business, and then we'll
- 18:07move into why inclusion is so important for you because your business is actually based
- 18:12in the inclusion, isn't it? Yes, yes, yes it is.
- 18:15So I got into so starting off with a little kid who grew up watching
- 18:22an HR and recruiting for fall and even firing my own father was probably pretty
- 18:27rude. I also hired her multiple times, so I don't maga seem like
- 18:30it was fire her, but kind of growing up on that it really an
- 18:37act. And I also have a wonderful father who was my stay at her
- 18:41preparent for a while, who also always thought that the college, well,
- 18:45he teaches music and he would take me with them to class sometimes. I
- 18:49also had the benefit of really seeing what true education look like. I'm very
- 18:55proud of my father. He's a superb teacher. And so I got and
- 19:00I ended up working in a recruiting business. I came to all the different
- 19:07things that I didn't like about the things I loved were obvious, right,
- 19:10But then there were a lot of things that were not being done well and
- 19:14processed in point, and also were being treated both on the client and candidate
- 19:19side and agency recruiting, which just sort of appalling to me. Really just
- 19:23this very inhue approach and this idea treating human commodities and not taking into account
- 19:33what individual clients needed, and just it was, it was just didn't make
- 19:37a lot of sense to me. And so I struck out, with the
- 19:41blessing of the person who owned that company, struck out on my own,
- 19:45and just kind of ran from there. So I started off focusing very much
- 19:48on the hiring affect and then and more into the HR and the consulting aspect
- 19:56because they were things that I had done as well, skill sets I'd built
- 19:59up up worked with tons of startups throughout my entire career. And it's it's
- 20:07been it's been a lot of fun. But yeah, the then the it
- 20:10evolved more and more and more into the inclusion aspect and realizing very much that
- 20:15was the problem inclusion and lack of understanding other people. So and when when
- 20:22I say inclusion, a lot of people kind of seem confused about what that
- 20:26what that means. And so inclusion is simply welcoming in people as they are
- 20:34and then supporting them and working in a way that's not and that is that
- 20:41is for them as an individual. That's really all it is. It's very
- 20:45very simple, and and try to everybody. I've had to, well,
- 20:49who does inclusion apply to? Everybody? Inclusion can't be exclusive. It's in
- 20:55the word include every time. It's for literally, it's for all the humans.
- 21:00That's that's who it's for. And it can mean understanding groups that you
- 21:04never understood before. I mean, understanding marginalized communities, But ultimately it boils
- 21:11down in a cruddy human right, yeah, kind of where it's that?
- 21:18So? Uh and then you asked me, oh, yeah, where why
- 21:19I ended up with this? So? I have six invisible disabilities, huge
- 21:26gamut of diet, both physicalities which if anybody doesn't know, that's just a
- 21:34medically visible and or diagnosical difference in how a person processes information and stimuli.
- 21:41DHD autism in my case, OCD is one of my more prevalent ones,
- 21:47as well as the bipolar disorder. And so people always think it's because I
- 21:53must have experienced some like discrimination and this kind of thing, right, But
- 21:59that that wasn't I guess I did a little bit, but never never that
- 22:06badly. Mostly the OCD would get me because people didn't like that I insisted
- 22:11on doing things correct and that seemed to stuck me in the workplace. You
- 22:15know, I wanted to do things the best way, and it would kind
- 22:18of people would get frustrated with that. When I saw things broken, I
- 22:23needed them. That's part of those right. So it wasn't so much the
- 22:29discriminating discrimination that I experienced. I saw something to be fixed, and my
- 22:34little brain just goes must fix started out to do it. Yeah. Well,
- 22:41I like what you said about that it should include all the human beings.
- 22:45And in my fight for for human rights, you know, and and
- 22:52what I discovered was that it wasn't discrimination came about because people were trying to
- 23:03define people, different types of people out of being human beings. Yes was
- 23:11yeah, like if you know, if you don't look down an act like
- 23:15this, you're not a human. Yeah, yeah, that was. That
- 23:23was one of one of the biggest biggest hurdles I found with with with because
- 23:29because inclusion is quite simple. It's like, hey, he walks on to
- 23:40it has two arms out and in in a brain, you know, like
- 23:45a human shape brain. It's like, okay, these must be a human
- 23:49being. It's like very simple, right, yeah, it should be it
- 23:55should be yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's not. And and and
- 23:59for a lot of people to the ego defense is a huge part of what
- 24:02goes wrong. So that's that naturally occurring mechanism that we all have in our
- 24:07brain. So our brain inherently needs to be correct. Right, That's there's
- 24:11science and you can look that up. There's some wonderful studies on that if
- 24:14you google it. So the ego mechanism they built into designed to help us
- 24:19when we're little, tiny children and back in the hunt or gatherer times,
- 24:22right, like for actual safety reasons. But as we become adult humans in
- 24:26today's world, it kind of quits serving its sight and it just actually starts
- 24:32hindering us. It actually stops us because what happens when we get new information
- 24:36instead of inquiring about that like a childhood right, because what do kids do
- 24:41when you ask why? Why? Why? You know? It's brain trying
- 24:47to trying to learn, right, And instead of doing that as adults,
- 24:52we just go no, I'm right, no, I'm right, no,
- 24:55I'm Every single time you can see it on social media all the days of
- 24:59your life. We just every any even remotely controversial compost anything that hasn't you'll
- 25:06see somebody on there throwing up ego defense. And that's that thing that that
- 25:11when we when somebody says something that's different from us, we argue with them
- 25:15instead of asking about it. And so when one of the things that I
- 25:19really work with clients on, whether I'm teaching a class or whether I'm consulting
- 25:25with company, is to break that ego defense. How to do that,
- 25:29how to shut that down response something we can our next guest, she is
- 26:03a thought disturber. I mean, we're gonna ask her what that really means.
- 26:08What does it mean to actually disturb people's thoughts? But in a positive
- 26:12way. Jam Barlow she experienced the joy of being at the height of her
- 26:19business development career in two thousand and seven working with a global pharmaceutical company aligned
- 26:27with her strengths. Three months after being assigned a new manager, she was
- 26:33positioned to fail. This forced her to look at things a little bit differently
- 26:41and in which she was She wasn't aligned with the with the next position that
- 26:49she that she received, and it manifested nothing but stress. But stress and
- 26:56distress man created, uh, physicality caused they caused her great loss uh personally
- 27:07and professionally. After experiencing the negative psychological effects and physical effects of having a
- 27:17bad job fit, Jan vowed as her life's work to help position people according
- 27:23to their strengths so they could actually have the right job and the best career.
- 27:33And it was kind of these things that made her start to find herself
- 27:44with the title of being a thought disturber because she made people think about their
- 27:49life and their career differently than what they would have previously to working with her.
- 27:56So why don't we welcome Jan Barlow to the show and find out how
- 28:03we can have our thoughts disturbed and learn how to think a little bit differently
- 28:07about ourselves and about the world we live in. So Jan, welcome to
- 28:38the show. And I think I got it wrong in the introduction. I
- 28:42think I called you a thought disturber instead of a disruptor. But the result
- 28:48is the same. And why don't we start here because you had an event
- 28:55happened in two thousand and seven that caused you not only mental stress, but
- 29:00emotional stress because of a bad job. Yeah, it was actually a bad
- 29:08managerial fit. So I was working for a global pharmaceutical company. I actually
- 29:14created my own position there and I had the best you know of both worlds
- 29:19clinical education trainer for the doctors and staff, and sales and marketing, so
- 29:26I could literally when we sold them a million dollar laser that's used in lasik,
- 29:30I was able to go in train them on how to use the device,
- 29:36hire the right people for the team, you know, to work the
- 29:40laser, and also be a patient counselor, and then put the really their
- 29:44business development plan together to start making money right and market their services. So
- 29:51I loved it. It's it's like starting a new business for you know,
- 29:55you go in, you sell a product or service, and you start that
- 29:57side of their business and then you move on to the next doctor. So
- 30:02I really enjoyed that. Was recognized by our biggest competitor and was hired away
- 30:08from Outcome. At that time, they were going through a merger and actition
- 30:12as well, so they needed people who could just here's the goal, hit
- 30:18the ground running and start you know, doing the job and not really have
- 30:22any ramp up time. So when I crossed over, I made sure that
- 30:27I, you know, when I spoke to the manager because I loved my
- 30:32job with out come, so I really didn't need to, you know,
- 30:37change jobs. But when I was talking to the manager who hired me,
- 30:41She's like, Jan, this will be a good fit. We work well
- 30:45together, you know, so it was a no brainer. But two months
- 30:48after I joined, they moved my manager and gave me a new manager.
- 30:52And she did not really like the fact that she didn't get to pick me,
- 31:00and how managers do they want to hire their own people, and so
- 31:03she changed my job. So that clearly I went from working in my strengths
- 31:10to working in my weaknesses, so to speak. And I just thought I
- 31:15had to try harder, right, and that just didn't work. My palms
- 31:19started to peel, my hair started to fall out, and it just really
- 31:25mentally, emotionally, physically. I was at the top of my game and
- 31:30was at the bottom within seven to nine months. Wow, No, I
- 31:36do know that because I, hey, I didn't always owe my own business.
- 31:42That I remember working for a manager in the corporate world and it was
- 31:52really wasn't a good fit. And I was just trying to hang in there,
- 31:55you know. I figured, O, well, eventually I'll get enough
- 31:57sales. I'll get these guys approval, and I'll in I'll build enough relations
- 32:05business relationships that this guy will start to like me because he just simply put
- 32:10up with me. I just you know, pushed me to the side of
- 32:13the room sort of thing. And the result of it was my physician at
- 32:22the time was prescribing to Lantern and all kinds of blood pressure medications and the
- 32:29anxiety stuff, and was like and for me, it just all of a
- 32:35sudden hit me. I'm looking at all these prescriptions in my hand, and
- 32:37I'm like, I need to change something else. This isn't the way to
- 32:43do this. Did you have that moment? You know my moment was.
- 32:49I mean I at that time, I was sleeping twelve hours a day.
- 32:52I mean, I was so sick. I ended up. You know,
- 32:58my friends I have had at that time when I lived in Florida, I
- 33:00had friends that were judges, doctors, and they were saying, look,
- 33:05go to my doctor. Here, go to my doctor. I went to
- 33:07five different doctors, and you know the ridiculous advice that they gave, you
- 33:14know, wear organic yogurt on your head for two hours. I mean,
- 33:19come on, every day, Come on, now, you know. I
- 33:22mean for me, it was when I went to an eeridologist, because it's
- 33:28like an ophtalmologist. So I was referred to an ieridologist and they said,
- 33:35you know you have it looks like you have adrenal issues. So I went
- 33:39to a specialist who that's what they did. But you know, the biggest
- 33:45for me was I was getting all these going to these doctors and getting these
- 33:51blood tests, and the blood tests were showing there's nothing wrong with you.
- 33:57Okay, at what point sleeping for twelve hours and here falling out in palm's
- 34:00peeling. Do you not see that there's a problem. Right, So when
- 34:05I found the right doctor and took a saliva test, which is not common,
- 34:12it's more common than it was then, but to be able to have
- 34:15somebody positively identify physically what the issue was, right, So when he told
- 34:22me, he goes, here's you're a dreanal results, adrenal gland results,
- 34:28here's above normal, here's below normal. Here you don't even make the charts.
- 34:34I don't know how you got here today, and I don't know how
- 34:38you have not had a heart attack or stroke. So that was the for
- 34:44me, that was the defining that was like okay, that's a problem.
- 34:49Like okay, I mean I know that I don't feel well or whatever.
- 34:53I know that's an issue. But for me to have number one identify what
- 34:58was wrong with me and then the physical evidence right, that's you know,
- 35:04and then the experienced the chaos. So for me, Mike, I had
- 35:07to get down to the very bottom. I had to go straight to the
- 35:13bottom before I said okay, I got to do something different. So again
- 35:20I probably lasted longer than I should have. But at the same time,
- 35:25I was trying to go to the company and work and work it out,
- 35:30you know, talk to to go to HR and go through the hoops to
- 35:36try to work it out. And because of the merger and acquisition that HR
- 35:43support was not there because nobody knew who was in charge. So when you
- 35:49know, I kept on trying to resolve it is they're supposed to help,
- 35:58they weren't, so, you know, unfortunately, through that whole process,
- 36:01so to me, unfortunately, I had to go to extremes. I had
- 36:07to stretch it out before that was my turning point. It's that was at
- 36:13the very bottom and then rising phoenix if you would, Yeah, you turned
- 36:19to the ashes and then something we can Our next conversation is with Michael Bangouru's
- 36:53and he wants to teach us that difference between system relevant and human relevant.
- 37:04Some of the knowledge that we have is actually system based, and if we
- 37:07don't use it day to day, well, we tend to forget some of
- 37:10it. And he wants us to focus more on our human relevant things,
- 37:20so that would be things that are creative. And he believes that our first
- 37:28superpower is human is creativity, and our second and third superpowers kind of go
- 37:37hand in hand because it's dialogue and it allows us to interact with each other
- 37:46and function through the systems that we're created by man. So in some of
- 37:55those things, those communication things, there's communications skills and everything that we know
- 38:01are also part of what has helped us survive as human beings for thousands of
- 38:09years. So they not only become part of our superpower, but they become
- 38:15part of the reason why we're even alive to begin with. He wants us
- 38:21to focus more on those human relevant superpowers and maybe a little less on the
- 38:30system ones, so that we find a happier and maybe a better life.
- 38:37So why don't we bring Michael to the show, and let's hear what he
- 38:42has to say and what he how he wants us to think about our lives
- 38:51at hand. So welcome to the show. Michael. How did there's a
- 39:21story behind you actually got started with you with your art? And how it
- 39:29how you want what the goal is is to cause an awareness? And how
- 39:35did how did you actually get started as an artist? And how did you
- 39:37come across the idea that that you can that you can cause a great awareness
- 39:43with it. Oh that's an awesome question, Michael, thanks for having me
- 39:47here. I was born in Vienna, in Austria, and I came here
- 39:52twenty two. I lived to Los Angeles and what happens for I was a
- 40:00child and I went to school with when I was seven, I was the
- 40:05opposite of being conscious. I just tried to like all the young Evans and
- 40:10the lessons, want to survive. You survive day by day. You know,
- 40:15we want to get into the tribe. I couldn't. I couldn't because
- 40:22I went to school. When I was seven. I found out I'm completely
- 40:28or because I'm so nerdiverse and I have this LEGSA combined with dysgraphia, which
- 40:35where I can't read my handwriting, and you know how that was forty years
- 40:38ago, where the handhetting was everything. They weren't computers, and so I
- 40:43couldn't fit in. I couldn't fit in. So the only way where I
- 40:46felt like normal quote unquote was in the most abnormal community, the artists community.
- 40:53I felt, you know, the most abnormal community is And because it
- 41:00didn't matter there. You know, you create a you know, a theater
- 41:04piece and you don't have a guy. You just put a girl in there,
- 41:07you know, and put a mustache on her. It's it's just about
- 41:09the product. It's not about the individual humans ruling hierarchy or anything. It's
- 41:15just we create a piece of art together whatever that is, music thing,
- 41:22and it has to work because it doesn't work when everybody gets start. So
- 41:27you have few obviously, but that's a role in team. And so I
- 41:32found myself when I was thirty and I applied for jobs, I saw my
- 41:37god artist because artists you have to be deemed a society that when you're an
- 41:45award like just did you know, So you've got to be deemed as that
- 41:52if you're good or not in the eyes of society of a systems, you're
- 41:59good or not. But basically it's not about the creator the product. It's
- 42:05about the creation process where you really learn you don't know that you know you
- 42:09had, and I may broadcast them, you know, bringing that spark of
- 42:15inspiration into the article. That's why everybody looks artists and people that create stuff.
- 42:23Oh my god, I could never do that, but we all can
- 42:27do that. We're all a creative animals. I think we are collaborative creator
- 42:31animals by nature. And so when I was thirty, I decided, you
- 42:37know, I couldn't have done it. Yeah, I couldn't be in an
- 42:39accountant, so I said, there's no way. So this is how I
- 42:45got into owning that I'm artists and not not just waiting that somebody else says
- 42:52you you're a great artists, you know, so so we own that.
- 42:55And I see the difference because I talked to thousands of artists in my life.
- 43:00Even established, very established artists find it uncomfortable to call themselves an artist
- 43:07because they lack the awareness that they are. They think, okay, society,
- 43:10you know, it's just bleep. When you're deemed to be an artist.
- 43:15You're an artist today and tomorrow your crack, you know, it's like
- 43:19it doesn't or you nothing, and for whatever reason, you created a product
- 43:24that people like, you're the super artist. So I think that awareness when
- 43:30it was about thirty pivotal for me because I owned what I am. I
- 43:37owned my human centric function, a part of it, not the whole of
- 43:43it, you know. Yeah. Yeah, Then I grew up and that
- 43:46was always an art. I had great chances without any education. I think
- 43:53nothing would have given me the chances to work with Robert Evans could it the
- 43:58Godfather you know, and Chinatown to live with him? You know, nobody,
- 44:02nobody would have. I was also Arts Commission of would have done without
- 44:10I couldn't have done that job without an education. Uh now oh this job
- 44:15only see that's my like, yeah, this job only allowed me to be
- 44:21Arts commission you know, without an education, because I have zero education.
- 44:25I am completely of tough. Yeah. Well I remember this from growing up.
- 44:34When you talk about dyslexia, because there's different types of it also,
- 44:42and I'm very dyslexic with with letters and words and things like that. When
- 44:47I type emails and I and I ran a chemistry lab and my my my
- 44:54VP supervisor said you're not allowed to send emails anymore because what you're ready,
- 45:06it's like because there's words missing, all that kind of stuff. But I
- 45:08remember growing up, did I was told that I would never amount to much
- 45:14more than a floor sweeper because you couldn't fit in. You can weren't good
- 45:21in the hierarchy they had didn't see this is in nature. You're worthy because
- 45:27you exist because nature doesn't make mistakes. Just saying I'm gonna make a millionaire
- 45:31fant offense too many, you know, and they have to somehow survive that.
- 45:37It sure totally imbalanced. But in systems you have to have system relevance.
- 45:42And everybody that is somehow different than we all are. Every human is
- 45:47one of one with on fingerprints, on irises, h on DNA. We
- 45:54are all not fitting in because tell me one person you've met that said,
- 45:59oh, I fit in perfectly all the time, never unless you have the
- 46:01super hot and a football team. But then later on you might don't see
- 46:07that anymore. Well, they're they're lies. The lies of problem is is
- 46:14later on in life that they find themselves not fitting in because hey, oh
- 46:19being a football star doesn't necessarily amount to anything. A perfect example of that
- 46:24would be oh J Simpson. Yeah, you know he then there's some people
- 46:32that I just mentioned that name to. They wouldn't even know who he is,
- 46:37either from football or anymore or anything that that's happen in his life.
- 46:42So so, but I like what you say about owning who you are,
- 46:50and for a lot of people it takes a lot longer than the age of
- 46:54thirty two to learn to own who you are. So I think I think
- 47:00I still didn't know who I am, but I knew that part of me,
- 47:06so I said, I couldn't in something else. It was like logical
- 47:08this, you know, subtraction. I couldn't have been, uh, you
- 47:14know, an accountant, the bookkeeper, a politician or anything I had.
- 47:19I had to be. I had to be what I am. You know,
- 47:22I couldn't be a doctor. So I know I have to call myself
- 47:25an artist because I have to have some systemical reference point, not for me,
- 47:30but for to say what are you? I'm an artist? And also
- 47:35it is a guide post to the direction you're gonna go. If I wouldn't,
- 47:39I would have owned I love I'm healing animals, for healing humor,
- 47:46and I love that I want to be an m D. Then and I
- 47:51wouldn't be a problem. Then I would have studied for m D. And
- 47:53then there's a reference point that this is my it's gonna be my life contribution
- 47:59to the whole because we are collaborative, beta and formost, you know,
- 48:02we all contribute to this reality. Yeah, we want to talk about glimmers
- 48:37today and we're going to talk with Nancy Picard about glimmers. And this all
- 48:43came about because I found a LinkedIn post from Nancy about the topic of glimmers
- 48:52and what it is is it seeds little things that feed your flame of life,
- 48:58that make that that life spark, that life flame brilliant and bright and
- 49:05as she puts on a scale from one to ten, ten being the brightest
- 49:09flame that you that you can possibly have in your life? Did these glimmers
- 49:15feed that flame? And they're just little events that make you happy, make
- 49:22you feel good, fill you with energy. Those people that also help fill
- 49:29you with energy because they just feel so good to be around. You're gonna
- 49:37hear Nancy say some things, maybe about her children, her grandchildren, and
- 49:45maybe even her the fact that she climbed Mount Kelimanjaro. Maybe we won't hear
- 49:51some things about that, but it's Nancy's term glimmers and how they help feed
- 50:00our life and help us move past that comfort zone and into the success and
- 50:05purpose that we're supposed to have in our lives. So why don't we bring
- 50:09Nancy into the show and let's talk about glimmers something we can Well, I
- 50:45posted one thing. I posted a meme about glimmers, and really, what
- 50:52glimmers is is just I don't remember what we talked about on your last podcast,
- 51:00but basically getting what I normally talk about. Yeah, but yeah,
- 51:05yeah, we stay very focused to your book. Oh we did, okay,
- 51:10YEA far away from that. I've been doing much more relationship and marriage
- 51:15coaching. So that's actually where where I've been going. But I go wherever
- 51:22the podcast wants to go. But oh no, no, because it's all
- 51:28about relationships in the end, right, Well yeah, I mean well not
- 51:34all, No, not all My coaching is about relationships, you know,
- 51:37No, I mean I mean our lives. It's all about yeah yeah,
- 51:42but and and learning how to move forward. So glimmers, so I'll get
- 51:49you to find uh, glimmers is just glimmers is is the opposite of looking
- 52:02for what's wrong in your life. So people we always have a negative bias,
- 52:07like that's basically through evolution, you got to look at what's wrong so
- 52:14you could stay safe. You know, you don't have we don't have a
- 52:17tiger coming after us anymore, so we don't have to do that. But
- 52:22our negative bias is still the same, that everyone's always looking for what's wrong
- 52:25instead of what's right. And so I always talk about putting on prepared glasses
- 52:30and looking for what's right. And that's what glimmers are. The glimmers are
- 52:34the things in your life that that spark you up right. And so yeah,
- 52:40but that's a comfort zone. So we can go wherever you want to
- 52:43go. I don't care. Actually actually got I get a really good,
- 52:46good tie in for that. Okay, okay, so is it new artwork
- 52:55behind you? Same artwork I that's from the that was at the bottom of
- 53:02Kill Him and Jarrow after I climbed Kill Him. They were artists at the
- 53:06bottom that were probably yeah, thank you. I didn't until you closed the
- 53:14door. I hadn't noticed that that that actually makes a big difference. Well,
- 53:19but I'm also I mean the way yeah, the art yeah, yeah,
- 53:23it no, it makes it. It makes your artwork come up a
- 53:27little a little bit more because you closed the door. Yeah, well now
- 53:31you've hitten the door. So yeah, we're even better if it just frames
- 53:37better. It's not new how that I got the bottom of kill Him and
- 53:43Jaro and a rolled thing. I took it home. I probably paid less
- 53:46than one hundred dollars to buy it, and I probably spent ten times at
- 53:50the frame it when you get back to Yeah, see, that's why I
- 53:53learned to frame things myself. I spent a lot. Yeah, no,
- 54:00actually you can. I understand you can spend a lot some framing projects.
- 54:05When I've done some frame some photographs for people that just in glass alone,
- 54:10that we paid like hundreds of dollars just for the glass. Yeah. Yeah,
- 54:15So anyway, yeah, now I do have the sound completely balanced out.
- 54:23You always have a good story, all right, So why don't we
- 54:28get started in five four three two one. So welcome back, Nancy,
- 54:38and I remember it was a few months ago that I saw a post of
- 54:45yours about glimmours. And one of the things that people do when they really
- 54:51gets stuck in their comfort zone is they get stuck on what's wrong with them,
- 54:57and instead of what is right with him? And I remember a post
- 55:01to yours being about glimmers, where we start to focus on what's right in
- 55:07our lives so we can be grateful for them and move forward right exactly,
- 55:13so, we have a negative bias. All of us have a natural negative
- 55:16bias. It comes back from our caveman days where you had to be like,
- 55:22am I safe? Am I safe? Am I safe? What's not
- 55:23working in my environment? What's not right? You know, we don't have
- 55:28those silver toothed tigers coming after us anymore, but we still innately have the
- 55:32bias to look for what's wrong. And so I talked to my clients all
- 55:37the time about taking off the what's wrong glasses and putting on what's right glasses
- 55:42and looking your life through what's right. Because when you look for what's wrong,
- 55:46the only thing I can promise you is you're going to find it.
- 55:50And what you put your attention on is what you get more of. So
- 55:55if you're looking for what's wrong, you're going to find it, and you're
- 55:59going to get more of it. You know, if you think, oh
- 56:01my god, nothing ever works out for me, well, guess what,
- 56:04nothing's going to work out for you? So glimmers are those things in our
- 56:08life that actually bring us joy, that are working. And what's a glimmer
- 56:15for me may not be a glimmer for you. But you know, if
- 56:19you get a hold of what your glimmers are, if you take a little
- 56:22time and make a list of the things that jazz you up, you know
- 56:25what makes you feel joyful, what makes you feel alive, what gets your
- 56:30you know, joa Devi going. Those are the things you want to put
- 56:34your attention on and you want to incorporate them more in your life. You
- 56:38know, Oh, like I feel really great. I personally, this is
- 56:40me speaking. I have to be outside every single day, hiking, biking,
- 56:46skiing, pick a balling. I have to be outside even if it's
- 56:51raining. I'm outside with my dog and I'm in the elements. And that's
- 56:54a glimmer for me that jazzes me up, that charges me. That's like,
- 56:59if I do that, then whatever else I have to do for my
- 57:01day works. And so that's actually how I schedule my life. I lots
- 57:08of times, maybe three or four days a week, I'll have a client
- 57:10at seven thirty in the morning, but then I don't work again until one
- 57:15or two every single day, and that whole great, juicy part of the
- 57:20day belongs to me being outside in nature with my dog doing one of those
- 57:25activities. Those are glimmers for me. Yeah, there's I'm going to invite
- 57:30everybody to look for you on link LinkedIn. I'll say that again. I'm
- 57:35going to invite everybody to look for you on LinkedIn. And Nancy's last name
- 57:39is spelled p I C K A r D. For those of you who
- 57:45may be Star Trek fans, put the K and picard and you got it.
- 57:50You got Nancy's name. Forgive me for that, Nancy, I played
- 57:58it. But there's there's lots of pictures of you on LinkedIn where you got
- 58:06your bigger, better braver ball cap on and you're outside whitewater, rafting,
- 58:14rock climbing, whatever it is out there in nature, and it's exciting to
- 58:20follow you that way also because that's your glimmers, right, Those are my
- 58:27glimmers. You have a lot of. Just Just being with my dog is
- 58:30a glimmer. I mean, being with my partner and doing something fun.
- 58:32Being with my girlfriends is always a glimmer. I love playing pick a ball
- 58:37with couples and girlfriends like those things. They jazz me up. Soda is
- 58:43sitting there on Zoom and letting my eight year old grand children read to me,
- 58:47or me reading to my three and a half year old grandchildren. Those
- 58:51are all things that like just make me feel good about life. And we
- 58:55all have them, and some of us have more than others, and some
- 59:00of us just need to spend some time making a list so that they recognize
- 59:07them and we all get them. Yeah, So making a list, writing
- 59:13them down these things is that the first one of the first steps in actually
- 59:16being able to focus on them so you can introduce more of them into your
- 59:20life. I think when you write something down, it becomes a plan,
- 59:23it becomes real. And I just think that we are so busy in our
- 59:30lives doing versus being that we don't really take the time to really say,
- 59:37Wow, these are the things that I'm working in my life. These are
- 59:40the things that I talk about people having an internal flame. So on a
- 59:46scale of one to ten, I'll say to my clients, where's your flame
- 59:51today? You know? Is it a rip roaring ten? And life is
- 59:54just rocking and everything's working and smooth, and you couldn't be happier or is
- 1:00:00it a three where you know you're bogged down and you got a lot of
- 1:00:05incompletes in your life and some of your relationships aren't working and so your flame
- 1:00:10is pretty low. So then I'll say, okay, so what did you
- 1:00:15do this week that raised your flame? And what did you do this week
- 1:00:20that lowered your flame? So when you start to get out of autopilot and
- 1:00:24see the things that are actually raising your flame, so you can do more
- 1:00:30of those versus lower your flame. Like, oh, every time I talk
- 1:00:32to this person, I have a low flame. Well let's not talk to
- 1:00:38this person every day, or you know, really back off from your communication
- 1:00:45with people that are not feeding you right, not feeding your flame, And
- 1:00:51that's you've got to get out of autopilot so you can even recognize what's working
- 1:00:55and what's not. Yeah, okay, we ended there with Nancy Picard talking
- 1:01:02about glamours those things that feed our flame. Now, all of you out
- 1:01:13there, you probably made some sort of New Year's resolutions, and you've probably
- 1:01:15made yourself some outrageous promises that you're probably not going to actually keep. The
- 1:01:27odds are when someone makes it a choice on New Year's day that they're going
- 1:01:35to change something in their lives. They're going to make a promise to themselves,
- 1:01:39a resolution that they're going to do something. The odds are by time
- 1:01:46February first comes, the whole idea has gone out the window and you've reverted
- 1:01:52back to your old habits. I want you to listen to that last a
- 1:02:05segment with Nancy Picicard where she talks about what are the things that are going
- 1:02:09to feed your flame? And maybe for twenty twenty four you'll find the things
- 1:02:17that feeds your flame, those things that make you feel more human, make
- 1:02:23you celebrate the diversity that's around us, help you build relationships instead of just
- 1:02:31muddling through, and when you do, you'll find the happiness and the freedom
- 1:02:42that these top five people have talked about in their lives. All right,
- 1:02:49thank you for listening to everybody, and find that subscribe button wherever it may
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