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- 0:05Kate, welcome to Into the Channel podcast primarily about
- 0:08women's football. I'm your host, Dean of the
- 0:10Suspicious. And as always, I'm joined by my
- 0:12coast, Mr. Grant Angle. What is up man?
- 0:16Buddy, I am feeling fantastic. As we have mentioned for
- 0:20probably folks, I'm guessing if you're watching this, maybe you
- 0:22watched Part 1 when we talk about when we preview some of
- 0:26these, these next matches coming up in the UEFA Women's Champions
- 0:28League. I mean, we just couldn't be more
- 0:30back. There's just no way for two
- 0:34dudes talking about the UEFA Women's Champions League who
- 0:36live in America to be more back. I, I think, yeah, we're back.
- 0:42It's back. Couldn't be more back.
- 0:45I totally agree with you. We're at Max back and we're now
- 0:49in Part 2 of like, like just the layers upon layers just keep
- 0:54adding up. We've got another 4 awesome
- 0:57match ups to talk through the Thursday slate.
- 0:59If you missed Part 1, we talked about all five Wednesday
- 1:03matchups loaded Wednesday sleep. What do we have here?
- 1:06Valerie Wolfsburg, Leon Zing, Poulton, Roma, Barcelona, Louvin
- 1:11FC-20 and what could be the match of the day without about
- 1:13that Or actually we talked about that in Part 1, so we won't be
- 1:15talking about that later. Let's get to Thursday. 4 big fun
- 1:19matchups to talk to big clubs, big club Thursday we're going to
- 1:23learn some stuff. We've got the Champions of
- 1:25Germany facing the Champions of Italy, the Champions of Europe
- 1:29facing the Champions of Portugal.
- 1:31I mean, like, this is a loaded, loaded slate.
- 1:34You know, maybe the silver medalist in France and silver
- 1:36medalist in space, like a ton of places where we can get started.
- 1:40Mr. Grant Angle, where should we get started?
- 1:42Well, look, I think it's well established on this podcast that
- 1:45I am the Barcelona guy. However, my best pal is the Real
- 1:51Madrid guy. So let's just go ahead and do
- 1:53this. Let let's start with 1 Perry's
- 1:57Angerman verse Real Madrid. Goodness gracious.
- 2:01Obviously a lot to talk about the Real Madrid's V6 goals on
- 2:08Roma in, in in a great display of we've got a lot of good
- 2:13players, you know, and I think in a lot of ways we've been
- 2:15waiting for this. I actually went back and looked
- 2:19because even a player like Caroline Weir, you know, who,
- 2:22who had that kind of sort of devastating injury, missed a ton
- 2:24of time. I went back she, she was ranked
- 2:2644th on the 2023 guardian list of top 100 footballers and we
- 2:31just hadn't seen that in the Champions League, right?
- 2:33You know, like, you know, that she, she's got the skills you've
- 2:35seen in flashes, But now it kind of feels like, wow, this, this
- 2:38might be Caroline Weir just being like in the middle of
- 2:41everything and like everything happening around her in a
- 2:44really, in a really great way. Linda Caicedo in the in the in
- 2:47that first match. Unbelievable.
- 2:49Evan Navarro has been awesome this season.
- 2:52I mean, they're just Sarah, Sarah Debritz, always a player
- 2:56that I very much enjoyed. You know, didn't get a ton of
- 2:59minutes at Leon or got like kind of like low leverage minutes.
- 3:02So awesome to see a player like that logging almost 70 minutes
- 3:05to open the Champions League connects on 36 and 39 passes,
- 3:09four chances created for debits. I think could really find a home
- 3:14in that Real Madrid midfield. But like a great performance,
- 3:17like kind of what we were waiting for, you know, You know,
- 3:19me and my fellow, my fellow Blancos and Blancos, probably
- 3:23we're waiting for this one. And you should be I I mean, I
- 3:26think there's no real like, you know, it's, it's been discussed
- 3:30that written Real Madrid as a club wanted to throw their hat
- 3:34in the ring of playing in Liga F, You know, pardon me, my
- 3:37ignorance. If one of our pals could remind
- 3:39me. They kind of they acquired a, a
- 3:42Liga F team and then just kind of microwaved it and just put
- 3:45them in Real Madrid shirts and just said, Hey, we're going to
- 3:48start investing in women's football.
- 3:50If there's one thing we know about Real Madrid, there's no
- 3:53half stepping like they're going to try to go out here and try to
- 3:57win trophies because they are Real Madrid.
- 4:00So when they pick up an Alva Redondo, when they develop Linda
- 4:03Caseo, when they pick up Felipe Angel Doll, Sarah Dodrance,
- 4:07these type of players, like they are here to lift trophies and
- 4:11they have an incredibly tall task playing in the same league
- 4:15as Barcelona. But like what's Real Madrid
- 4:18going to do be like, oh, well, I guess we can't beat Barcelona.
- 4:21No, that's not in their DNA. They're going to try to they're
- 4:25going to try to make this this club as great as they possibly
- 4:27can, this women's team as great as they possibly can.
- 4:30And I think, you know, in that 62 drubbing, we've watched them
- 4:34grow up a little bit just in these past two years of the
- 4:37Champions League, like when we first started covering it in
- 4:392324, it was disappointing. And then last year in the 2425
- 4:43Champions League, they got better.
- 4:46I don't think they're accepting anything less than another step
- 4:49in this tournament. I think it's got to be
- 4:51quarterfinals for Madrid, especially chasing, you know,
- 4:55Barcelona, and they probably want to see if they can crack
- 4:58into the semi somehow. They certainly have the talent.
- 5:01You know, you mentioned, you know, Linda Caseedo, 3 assists
- 5:04in this one, five chances created and just, I mean,
- 5:07dazzling. Not a player that you could do a
- 5:09whole lot with. I think.
- 5:10I think Naomi Feller has been really good as well, you know,
- 5:14just getting into dangerous areas, being like really
- 5:17creative. And we talked about somebody
- 5:19that seems looking risk averse and she's the opposite of that.
- 5:21She'll take a crack. You know, it doesn't really
- 5:23matter if she's got if she's got a little crevice, she's going to
- 5:25try to make something happen and super skilled.
- 5:28I just really like this team. I think, you know, this is a
- 5:32team that I think has the belief.
- 5:34I think that first season 23 where we were covering didn't
- 5:37seem like they had that belief. I think they were really very
- 5:40much in Barcelona shadow, still in Barcelona shadow, but I think
- 5:44they at least feel like they can punch with them.
- 5:47And we've seen them, you know, compete with Barcelona, stay on
- 5:50the same pitch. This is a different a different
- 5:52look, you know, Barsa. But again, this is a long a long
- 5:55tournament and there's time for Madrid to to grow into this
- 5:58tournament and they're heading to Paris to take on PSG.
- 6:03Olga Carmona revenge match. A lot of revenge on the on the
- 6:06on the docket, you know, this this week, but we'll see.
- 6:09You know, you know what what that looks like PSG obviously
- 6:12coming off that disappoint. We talked about that a bunch in
- 6:15Part 1. What do you think this matchup
- 6:18has in store for us? I mentioned it in Part 1 when we
- 6:22talked about Perry FC and now we're obviously talking about
- 6:24the Gigantic. Club.
- 6:25Oh wait, can we drink something? Whoa.
- 6:29I mean, you don't need to tell me twice, buddy, Are you
- 6:32thirsty? Because we could just make this
- 6:33happen. Super parched.
- 6:37I'm not quite in knockout stage form, I'm still in qualifying
- 6:41form. No, it's totally understandable.
- 6:44I am drinking and you know, how fitting is it?
- 6:47They were talking about Real Madrid.
- 6:48We're talking about like a team from a Spanish speaking country.
- 6:53I'm drinking El Suenito out of Seattle and even more
- 6:59appropriate night shift. This is a delicious brewery in
- 7:03the Fremont neighborhood of lovely Seattle, WA.
- 7:07And they just make some. They have some heaters, dude.
- 7:10It's an absolutely phenomenal brewery.
- 7:13El Suenito I think that's like a little little sleep or A Little
- 7:16Dream or a little sleepy. Yeah, No, it, it, it matches, I
- 7:21think. I think it matches the motif of
- 7:23the can for the. Sleepy boys podcast as well.
- 7:26I mean could the synergy be synergizing anymore?
- 7:29I mean, Jesus, I didn't even realize that.
- 7:32Yeah, I mean, I feel bad that we get a free plug, but I'll talk.
- 7:36About that one later. So, you know, look with with
- 7:39PSGI thought Jennifer Etchageni looked looked good in some
- 7:44spots. Jackie Grunden had a tough own
- 7:46goal versus Wolfsburg. I'm I'm pardon me, I'm referring
- 7:49to PSG smash versus versus Wolfsburg.
- 7:52But what I think we might discover here, I'm going to go
- 7:55out on a limb and I don't think it's just the El Suito beverage
- 7:58talking here. I think we might be in a spot
- 8:01where we see that Real Madrid might be on a different tier
- 8:05than PSG. I'm telling you, man, I'm I'm a
- 8:08little down on PSG after seeing that performance versus
- 8:13Wolfsbury. And I don't have any reason to
- 8:16doubt Real Madrid. We already talked about it like
- 8:18they have a lot of good players. They seem to have a good plan.
- 8:21I don't know, man, I have a feeling if I could just go out,
- 8:26I'm going to go out and make the prediction.
- 8:27I think this might be a three one in favor of Las Blancas in
- 8:33France because I think the gap might be that big.
- 8:38You know, Real Madrid dominated Antrac Frankfurt 5 to 1 on
- 8:42aggregate to make the league phase.
- 8:45That's not a bullshit team. That team was like pushing for
- 8:48Cranville to see the title way, way down the stretch last year
- 8:51probably was as good or maybe I don't know.
- 8:55I would have liked to see PSG Antrac Frankfurt, you know, down
- 8:57the stretch out of neutral field last season.
- 8:59But PSG, my issue with PSG, this is a high variance team.
- 9:04You know, you don't, you don't really get teams that can beat
- 9:08Real Madrid, you know, two, one or two nil at home and that can
- 9:12also lose 4 nil to Wolfsburg. You know, it kind of look like
- 9:15the same team, you know, So I, I think that's probably what PSG
- 9:19is going to look like. I think we're going to get a lot
- 9:21of up and down performances. We're going to this team's going
- 9:24to look like a, you know, a team that could crack the semifinals
- 9:28or a team that's not going to make the top 12.
- 9:31And I think they might look like that in the same match or they
- 9:33might look like that in this match against Real Madrid.
- 9:35So we'll we'll be watching and it'll just be a matter of can
- 9:38they put it together, you know, enough over the next five
- 9:43matches to kind of stay alive. That's kind of like the game
- 9:45that they're playing because they've got, let's see who
- 9:48they've got, you know, down the stretch.
- 9:51They're hosting Real Madrid. They've got to go to Manchester
- 9:54United, then PSG hosts Bayern Munich, then they host Louvin,
- 10:00who we've talked about, and then they finish the league face at
- 10:03Benfica so. That's a tough stretch.
- 10:07There's a lot of losable, withdrawable, you know, dates on
- 10:12the calendar. They're going to have to, you
- 10:13know, they're going to need a solid performance against Real
- 10:17Madrid because if they come out and they lay another egg at
- 10:19home, you could see the spirits of that side, especially a
- 10:24truncated league phase. Again, only 10 weeks.
- 10:27This thing wraps up in December. So I mean, if you're, if you're
- 10:30already way, way behind the 8 ball, you can see a team being
- 10:33like, maybe we kind of switch gears a little bit and this is
- 10:36not the year that that we kind of make it happen Two matches,
- 10:38probably a little early, but if they if they kind of no show
- 10:41this one, I, I could see some of the air getting let out of those
- 10:44sales. I think that's totally fair.
- 10:47And I think you know who will be oddly disappointed by that will
- 10:51be Lyon, because they Lyon is in a position to now be looking at
- 10:55Perry FC and Perry Zaman and looking at them going, don't you
- 10:59embarrass us. And they might just be
- 11:01embarrassing them out here, like they might just be embarrassing
- 11:05the Premier League. And you talked about it in the
- 11:07last episode, which obviously everybody should go watch.
- 11:09It's absolutely free on YouTube. I don't know why you would not
- 11:11watch. It is that we might be in a
- 11:14space where people who have loved to dog on Liga F and say
- 11:19that Barcelona's out here beating a bunch of plumbers,
- 11:22that maybe Liga F, it gets to kind of walk around here and
- 11:24say, hey, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, not so bad, huh?
- 11:28Maybe our league is better than everybody thought.
- 11:30Yeah. And they could, they could be,
- 11:32it could be evolving that way. That could be what we're seeing
- 11:35happening in real time. But I do want to talk about the
- 11:37next matchup on the Thursday slate.
- 11:39Benfica hosting the holders, My Arsenal Benfica obviously not
- 11:45not the I don't think either of these teams the start that they
- 11:48were looking for. What do you even expect?
- 11:53I mean, are we expecting like a like an Arsenal bounce back?
- 11:56Usually in this spot, Arsenal will kind of like lay a big
- 12:00number on a Benfica side that doesn't really have the same
- 12:03bite offensively, you know, not a ton to be scared of.
- 12:07I can see Arsenal getting a little bit busy in this one, but
- 12:09Benfica is tough. Their physical, you know,
- 12:12they're going to be there for all those duels.
- 12:14They're going to make you feel that they they play with a ton
- 12:17of pride. But I think the town disparity
- 12:19probably just too big. What's going to be your
- 12:21expectation with this one? I think all of our our pals who
- 12:25might listen to sports radio, not necessarily American sports
- 12:28radio, because I know they do these, they use these clever
- 12:31tricks over in Europe on Talk Sport and other and various
- 12:36other networks. So this is going to be me as a
- 12:40Manchester City supporter and just a giant Arsenal hater.
- 12:44Here's here's the trick that I'm going to use.
- 12:47Arsenal better win this match big where they or they should be
- 12:51disappointed or maybe this Champions League won't go like
- 12:55it did last time where like a lot of things had to go right
- 12:57for them to lift the trophy. Yes, they lifted, they lift,
- 13:01they lifted the trophy. Congratulations to them.
- 13:04But why are we talking about old shit?
- 13:05I'm talking about this year. So like I, I think if your
- 13:09arsenal, yes, like you, you made some unforced errors and, and
- 13:14you, you know, and you kind of got, you made some unforced
- 13:18errors versus Lyon and you can take something away from that
- 13:21and be like, hey, if we play play Lyon again in the knockout
- 13:24round, we should be better. But also, why were you so
- 13:28nervous making those, those errors against Lyon?
- 13:31And so you got to beat Benafica. Sorry, go ahead.
- 13:35No real quick on that. You you're totally right that
- 13:38the the mistakes were the difference in the match.
- 13:42But for most of the rest of the match, Leon also outplayed
- 13:45Arsenal. The big problem like you know it
- 13:48like they didn't score in those like out playing moments.
- 13:50They scored in the mistake moments.
- 13:52So it's like, yeah, you could eliminate those mistakes, but
- 13:56doesn't necessarily mean you're going to win that match. 100%
- 13:59and so well before. Before I say that though, I do
- 14:04want to point out that Caitlin Ford could have had the
- 14:08equalizer verse Lyon in that second-half.
- 14:12I think it was relatively early in the second-half.
- 14:14Sorry, my memory is a little cruddy on some of this stuff,
- 14:18but you can't take a moral victory after you lift the
- 14:23Champions League trophy. There are no moral victories
- 14:26against Lyon. If your Arsenal, like you have
- 14:28to be like, OK, we lost, it's a it's a fine margin.
- 14:33We got to do better. So I it goes back to my hater
- 14:36opinion that you should beat Benfica by two goals.
- 14:39And if you don't, then maybe you need to be thinking about what
- 14:43the rest of this tournament is going to look like for you.
- 14:45Yeah, I mean, Benfica, didn't you know, they kind of hung in
- 14:50some spots. So you look at touch, you know,
- 14:53they were they were able to advance the ball essentially
- 14:55versus Juventus touches in the in the opposing half, 146 to
- 14:59121, Benfica sort of in the ballpark.
- 15:02Touches in the opposition box against Juventus, 3523 in the
- 15:05ballpark again, but just four chances created for Benfica.
- 15:09So it's like they've got the possession, they can kind of
- 15:11knock it around, they can kind of hold it a little bit, but tip
- 15:14of the spear just kind of not there.
- 15:17And against this Arsenal side, unless it's a super spirited
- 15:20effort, I think it could be two goals would be that would
- 15:25probably be like on par for what I'd be expecting even on the
- 15:29road. But I could absolutely see
- 15:31Arsenal kind of like hanging a big number here and just kind of
- 15:33getting on track mentally. This is a spot where this isn't
- 15:37a team that you haven't necessarily circled on the
- 15:40calendar. Could be a tricky environment,
- 15:42but this is a get right game for sure.
- 15:45I so I kind of agree with you there.
- 15:47I'm going to I'm going to join you in putting a little pressure
- 15:49on Arsenal to kind of put together a good showing here.
- 15:52But I do want to scoot ahead another really intriguing match
- 15:56up, Atletico Madrid who obviously smacks St.
- 16:00Bolton and gets smacked by Barcelona in their in their home
- 16:02league hosting Manchester United who who also made their day
- 16:07debut last week in this tournament.
- 16:10What are you expecting in this one?
- 16:12If I had a dollar for every time I watched an Atletico Madrid
- 16:16match and said, quote, I like the look of this Atletico team,
- 16:21then I would have at least 5 or $6.
- 16:25You know, over the past few years of us doing this and me
- 16:28watching them in League F and now watching them qualify for
- 16:31this league phase and, and playing last week, I, I like
- 16:34that they are just committed to, we're going to run directly at
- 16:39you up and down the wings. We're going to play the ball
- 16:42into the middle. We're going to try to make every
- 16:44time we make those fast runs down the wings, we're going to
- 16:48try to make at least two players available in the middle on two
- 16:51different levels to try to score and make your defenders make
- 16:55difficult choices. I like all of that stuff.
- 16:59You know, in in Part 1, you and I talked about we had some some
- 17:02higher expectations for Saint Paul and our pals from Austria
- 17:06and Atletico Madrid made it very clear they are in a different
- 17:11tier. I don't think there's any
- 17:13question about that. But now the question is going
- 17:17back to our this country versus this country, this league versus
- 17:21this league. Manchester.
- 17:23United has a hell of a lot of good players in their own right,
- 17:26and that Letty has to go out there and prove hey, man, you,
- 17:30we're on the same tier as you. Yeah, and I.
- 17:33Think you know, it's going to be a wild environment as well.
- 17:36I mean, this is there's got to be some excitement for I'd letty
- 17:40like, you know, you, you win a match 6 nil you, you catch 3
- 17:44points. You got to you have a plastic
- 17:45school differential. You're probably feeling like
- 17:48you've got a shot right to advance to certainly be part of
- 17:53that top 12 mix and then see how long you can survive there.
- 17:56So very excited to see what happens from that standpoint.
- 18:00They're their attackers are just very, you know, aggressive,
- 18:04willing to make runs. You know, they they play
- 18:07together, like there's a great connectivity kind of in every
- 18:10direction. A lot of times you'll just see
- 18:12the ball kind of going player A to player BA to BA to BA to B.
- 18:16But like, I think athletic, they mix it up really, really well
- 18:20and they just kind of keep defenses on their heels.
- 18:22Now when you're thinking about the defenses in Manchester
- 18:25United, you have to talk about Miley CCA, who is kind of making
- 18:31a real leap, you know as a footballer, like just impossible
- 18:37not to notice what she's doing defensively, passing wise.
- 18:41I pulled together some numbers against Valarenga.
- 18:45She drew 3 fouls, which was the most in the match.
- 18:48She completed 130 of 132 passes. That's. 2 of 100 and. 32 passes,
- 18:56short passes 3333 for 33 medium 77 for 77 long passes of 30 plus
- 19:04yards. She was 20 for 22.
- 19:08That's unbelievable distribution in the WSL.
- 19:12She leads the league in middle third touches as a center back.
- 19:16Just fun, you know, like, and then she always, she also leads
- 19:19the league in the number of medium passes completed with
- 19:23256. She's completing those at a
- 19:2593.4% clip in the WSL. Again, that's passing between 15
- 19:29and 30 yards. So she's absolutely automatic.
- 19:32She's a headache defensively. Her intensity's off the charts.
- 19:36She's clearly putting imprints on that team and this could just
- 19:42be the year. We're just like this player has
- 19:44to be considered like in the upper echelon or probably is
- 19:48tracking towards that. I mean, it's just playing a
- 19:51dominant style of like. I mean, it's awesome watching
- 19:55her play. She's having such an awesome
- 19:56impact. I mean, look.
- 19:59For everybody who's kind of like joining us new, first of all,
- 20:03welcome aboard. Thank you for rocking with us.
- 20:05But we are lucky enough to have the privilege of, and I'll say
- 20:09maybe I'm getting a little too familiar here, but I feel like
- 20:12we're friends with Champions League winner Leanne Sanderson,
- 20:16Arsenal legend, you know, great for sure.
- 20:19Friend of the show, no doubt. I think we could call her, call
- 20:23her a friend and great radio presenter, broadcast presenter
- 20:27over in England and here in the NWSL.
- 20:30But I, I think it was her just very recently who just said
- 20:33Serena, Serena Wiegmann for the English national team just has
- 20:37to look at Mya Leticia, you know, 23 years old.
- 20:41Is this going to be a cornerstone player?
- 20:44And I don't mean to put words in Leanne's mouth, but I know
- 20:46Leanne was just saying Wiegmann has to look at Mya Leticia
- 20:50moving forward as an important player for the English national
- 20:53team. She has a gigantic, potentially
- 20:57gigantic future in front of her. And she and she's plays that way
- 21:01right now. So you know, me as a Manchester
- 21:04City supporter, begrudgingly, I am giving respect to this
- 21:08Manchester United team. And I think we, you know, we've
- 21:11talked about it. People talk about the the
- 21:13concept of this in the United States.
- 21:15This team is beating the respect out of me because every time I
- 21:18watch him play, I'm like, man, I really wish this team wasn't as
- 21:22good as they are because I really don't care for them, to
- 21:25be honest. But man, they got a lot of good
- 21:28players as as we like to say, yeah.
- 21:31It's. It's awesome watching, you know,
- 21:32molar on one side and just park, you know, kind of on the other
- 21:35and Turlin and, you know, just kind of everything they're
- 21:38doing. Riviera's a good, exciting young
- 21:40player. Like they?
- 21:41Yeah, I don't know. It's it's hard to to.
- 21:43Dislike what they've got going on.
- 21:45PTJ obviously and goal, I don't know what time it is there.
- 21:48It's not that hard to. Dislike it, but I understand
- 21:50what you mean. I let's we can root for the
- 21:52players. Let's root for the players.
- 21:54We like these players, nothing against players right, all
- 21:57right, so we'll see we'll see we're not really going to be
- 21:59rooting for any of these teams. I think we're just going to be
- 22:01locked in. I'd let the Manchester United
- 22:04really fun, fun, super fun match up, which leads just one more
- 22:08match up on that Thursday slate. Bayern Munich, champions of
- 22:12Germany, Juventus, champions of Italy, another chance for some
- 22:18real. There's a there's a chance that
- 22:19this one's a little bit of a snooze fest, but there's also a
- 22:22chance there's some fireworks in this one.
- 22:23Because I think, I don't know, I think I think both these teams
- 22:26are going to take this match up a little bit seriously that
- 22:28they'll, they'll, they'll take a little slice of that, that, you
- 22:31know, kind of like nationalistic, you know,
- 22:33approach of like, let's represent our league the right
- 22:36way. You know, let's kind of make a
- 22:37statement here. Match day 2.
- 22:39Nothing huge, huge on the line, but let's let's come out and
- 22:43like really stamp our our, our spot here.
- 22:46I think that's totally fair. I mean, we, we talked about the
- 22:50last match, Atletico versus Manchester United, that's Spain
- 22:53versus England. Now we get a Germany versus
- 22:56Italy match like, and, and like you said, it could be a snooze
- 23:00fest, Germany versus Italy clubs or it could be very exciting
- 23:04Germany versus Italy clubs like you, you don't know how, you
- 23:07don't know how this is going to go.
- 23:09Like, Bayern Munich, they have to look at the last match versus
- 23:13Barcelona and just kind of throw their hands up and say, OK,
- 23:17yeah, that one got away from us. Like, they can't take anything
- 23:21else away from that and say, oh, man, yeah.
- 23:25I mean, look, they're Bayard. What are they gonna say?
- 23:27Like, oh, maybe we don't belong in this tournament.
- 23:29Bullshit. Like, they're Bayern Munich.
- 23:31They belong in the Champions League.
- 23:32They should always be in the Champions League.
- 23:34They have to come back out here and say, we are still on a
- 23:38different tier than Juventus. And, you know, sorry for
- 23:42everybody who might get sick of me being obsessed with like how
- 23:44these teams are tiered, but like, they need to look at this
- 23:48and say we have more of a pedigree than Juventus.
- 23:52We can win this match and I think they'll come out and play
- 23:55that way. I agree.
- 23:57I agree with you. The fun part is, you know,
- 24:00obviously like, you know, we saw Bayern Munich and Wolfsburg this
- 24:04weekend. You know, we saw Wolfberg kind
- 24:06of fall a little bit short to, you know, like maybe like that
- 24:09the the Bayern Munich side that's got a little bit of a
- 24:11bigger sibling feel. Two of them now Wolfsburg for
- 24:16the from the last few years is going to is going to be playing
- 24:19a little bit in fire and shadow Juventus.
- 24:21I don't think it's going to bring that same energy.
- 24:23You know, you look at you know, what Barbara Monuncia did in the
- 24:27first match up. You look at Christiana Giarelli,
- 24:31the chances that she got. I love what Emily Vangsgard did
- 24:34and her runs because she is the perfect counterweight to those
- 24:39other two players. Barbara Monuncia very heady and
- 24:43no pun intended, but you know, like a very kind of smart,
- 24:45crafty kind of players. You really, you know what she
- 24:47wants to do. She wants to just kind of like
- 24:49take chances free, free herself up with some space in a
- 24:53dangerous area, put her head on it and see what happens from
- 24:56there. And I thought what Vangs guard
- 24:57does is really just provides like a little like like a wild
- 25:02card that used to have to keep an eye on, even though you've
- 25:04got these two like kind of killer offensive players that
- 25:07you also have to track. So I really love the balance of
- 25:10those three players, the three different skill sets and the
- 25:14chemistry that's it that's able to develop.
- 25:16You just have to do a lot defensively to be able to kind
- 25:19of keep up with what they're doing.
- 25:20Now, Byron may be built for that, but I think Ube is going
- 25:24to really push in this one. And and really, you know, you
- 25:29can see them kind of going for the draw or holding a draw or
- 25:31like really just being like, we want to at least be at the level
- 25:34of this team and we want them to know that we're going to be
- 25:37here. We want everybody else to know
- 25:39that we're at the same level. You know, tears be damned, you
- 25:42know, Grant Angles, tears be damned, you know we're here.
- 25:45They're watching. No, I think that I think that's
- 25:48totally fair. Now let me just make sure I have
- 25:51this right, because Vonsgaard in their mattress Como, which they
- 25:56lost by the way. So Juventus loses one nil to
- 25:59Como in Siria Femenil. You know, Vonsgaard came on in
- 26:04the 59th and left in the 87th. So my apologies if I'm not sure
- 26:10if she suffered an injury or not.
- 26:12So we'll, we'll, we'll track that.
- 26:16But they did. Play a rotated squad in a lot of
- 26:19respects verse verse como. Bonancia didn't start, Vaulti
- 26:24didn't start, Bangsguard didn't start.
- 26:26Obviously Kampiagi didn't start, but they ended up losing that
- 26:29one late. I think it's going to be, you
- 26:34know, are they going to play that Cata Naccio, sit back,
- 26:39absorb Bayern's pressure and then try to beat them on the
- 26:44counter? I think who Ventus has that gear
- 26:47in them. But that could also be a recipe
- 26:49for you just getting a, a weird, weird ish 2 nil loss against
- 26:54Bayern Munich because maybe they just finished the chances and
- 26:57then you're not able to hit him on the counter as badly.
- 27:00I, you know, you know, we love big names.
- 27:03I especially love big names. Bayern Munich versus Juventus.
- 27:08Come on man. Like, what more can you ask me?
- 27:10Awesome. It's going to be absolutely
- 27:12awesome. I cannot wait.
- 27:15For me, it's going to come down to I don't like I don't know if
- 27:19you I don't know if you caught it, but Bayern scored a goal
- 27:22today against Wolfsburg where Julie Gavin runs down a ball
- 27:26that's about to get to the end line, just cuts it, you know,
- 27:29just dinks it back into into a nice area.
- 27:35Kawa runs onto it from off the frame.
- 27:37You know, there's no way I don't know if Gavin is is is trying to
- 27:40do that or just trying to put it into a dangerous spot.
- 27:43But the ball lands right on Tanakawa, a really tough, tricky
- 27:48finish. But it it looked like it went
- 27:51exactly like Tonica was trying. You know, it was Yep, exactly
- 27:55what she was going for. I don't want to say fluky,
- 27:58little fluky. And I feel like Bayern's goals
- 28:01sometimes are, you know, it's like you might get a Leia
- 28:05Schuler kind of like a skipped header or they get a lot of own
- 28:08goals. Like they they do a lot of
- 28:10positive stuff, but I don't know that they have out of outside of
- 28:14cloud bull. Like, I don't know if they have
- 28:15somebody that you're just terrified of that's going to
- 28:18really be able to break you. So I'd really be interested if
- 28:21if Juventus is able to shade some defense to bulls side, kind
- 28:26of play them heads up a little bit, get a little bit aggressive
- 28:29so that it's not just you've a sitting back and and and Byron
- 28:33trying to like trying to like kind of go at the at the bus.
- 28:37Yeah, I I think it's going to be a little bit more open than
- 28:40that. And I think you've a in spots at
- 28:43least. I think we're going to see them
- 28:44really go for it. It's going to make for a, like I
- 28:46said, just awesome, awesome match up, I will say.
- 28:50I, I mean, you know, in, in my estimation, I literally wrote in
- 28:55my notes, Julia given is up to her old tricks when she hit that
- 28:59ball into the middle, 'cause I, I do think, and you know,
- 29:03obviously it's always 5050. Sometimes you play the ball,
- 29:07well, it's not always 5050. But you know, I'm trying to say
- 29:09here is that sometimes you play the ball into a dangerous area
- 29:12and say, hey, let me see what happens.
- 29:14I wouldn't put it past Julia Given to have said Tanakao will
- 29:17get there. Let me just put this ball right
- 29:20in that general spot because she is such a genius that that match
- 29:25over against Wolfsburg over the weekend was her first full 90,
- 29:31as far as I can tell, since the injury, since the MCL injury in
- 29:35the EUR. And she looked fast, she looked
- 29:37smart, she looked active. And obviously that pays gigantic
- 29:42dividends for Bayern Munich. So, you know, it's one of those
- 29:45things we talked about it when we talked about Barcelona in
- 29:48Part 1. They didn't look terrible versus
- 29:51Barcelona. They're just not on that tier.
- 29:53Barcelona is living in a different tier.
- 29:56I thought this. Was a typo and it could have
- 29:58very well been a typo. But according to FB ref the the
- 30:01XG for Barcelona Bayern Munich was 2.0 to 0.5.
- 30:07A big difference between 7.5 0.5 for Bayern 2 point O for
- 30:12Barcelona, but Barcelona can score seven goals.
- 30:15Like you know, I'm not sure if there's I'm not sure who's doing
- 30:20the math on that. If that's correct.
- 30:21I I assume it's correct because all the other XG lines look
- 30:24correct, but you know, yeah, they they just unloaded on
- 30:28Bayern and you can definitely expect to bounce back for sure
- 30:31seeing given back in the mix. I absolutely love.
- 30:35I wanted to kind of like throw you a bit of a curveball.
- 30:37Apologies for that. No, we.
- 30:39Were we tried? To record a preview that got a
- 30:42little bit derailed. So apologies for not having a
- 30:45pre match day one preview, but we didn't really ever get a
- 30:49chance to make any predictions on who we like top four, who we
- 30:54like top 12. I'm not sure if you have those
- 30:56handy. Oh.
- 30:58Boy, all right, let me grab them.
- 31:00All right, so I got I got it pulled up.
- 31:03So I mean, if we're asking in the in this context, I have
- 31:08Bayern Munich 6th on my list, Bayern 6th.
- 31:13OK, I've. Also got them 6th.
- 31:16All right, So you don't have them top?
- 31:17Four, what do you have top 4I have?
- 31:19Barcelona, and I mean Barcelona lives in their own tier in my
- 31:23view, just there kind of like almost in the world.
- 31:29Now, Kansas City current is not competing in this tournament.
- 31:32So we'll we'll leave them out of it for now.
- 31:35Separate. Separate.
- 31:36Tier separate. Yeah, separate, separate list of
- 31:39tiers. My top four, I have Barcelona,
- 31:42Leon, Chelsea, Arsenal. All right, I've got Madrid.
- 31:45Instead of Chelsea late switch, I changed.
- 31:49I like that. I think Chelsea's too flat.
- 31:51I think Madrid's going to make it happen.
- 31:53So that would put for me Chelsea and we could just do 5:00 to
- 31:5912:00. So that leaves me with Chelsea.
- 32:02Byron, who we mentioned, Wolfsburg's got to be in that
- 32:05mix. That's three Manchester United,
- 32:10that's 4 Twente. I'm going to put them in my top
- 32:1412. Athletes in my.
- 32:16Top 12 and I've got two more spots, Juventus and then I've
- 32:24got to pick one from Valarengo, St.
- 32:26Bolton, PSG, Louvin. I'm going to put Louvin in my
- 32:31top 12. Oh my God, you are the best.
- 32:35You're just the best in the world at this.
- 32:38That's so fantastic. I thought I was doing something
- 32:43spicy. Because I put.
- 32:46Louvin over Barry FC And I was like, that'll be cool.
- 32:52I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to show them There's the
- 32:55tiny dead. They they weren't almost pretty
- 32:58much over them. Well, well, no.
- 32:59No, I mean before before they started because we created all
- 33:03before before. Oh, I totally cheated.
- 33:05I I I updated mine. My bad.
- 33:07I cheated. OK.
- 33:08No, no. No, that's totally fair.
- 33:09I, you know, But we did see a game be played.
- 33:13So here, here's my top 12 before the tournament started.
- 33:20I have Barcelona, Leon, Chelsea, Arsenal.
- 33:22Then I have in the second tier, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich,
- 33:27Wolfsburg, Manchester United begrudgingly and then I have
- 33:31Benfica, Atletti, Roma, Twente. So I have you know, Juventus,
- 33:40Paris, Ajerman, St. Polton, Valarenga, Louvin and
- 33:44Perry. FCI have them all missing, you
- 33:47know, missing that that knockout stage.
- 33:49So you've got. Roma and Benfica in, right?
- 33:52I do. And then so that means I have
- 33:54Louvin and who else do I have and Twente in?
- 33:56You don't have Twente. I have Twente in.
- 34:00I have. Twente was my last team in, if
- 34:03we could use NCAA basketball parlance, I have athletian.
- 34:08Do you not have athletian? I have Athletian.
- 34:11So my 4 out or PSG is it's 4 out right, 12?
- 34:15Oh no, it's 18. It's six out.
- 34:17OK, yeah, I have PSG. PSGS out, they stink.
- 34:22Zane Colton's out, That's two. Ballering goes out, that's
- 34:25three. Yeah, for me, Roma's out, that's
- 34:29four. Pre FC is out, that's five.
- 34:31Benfica's out, six. Those are my 6 out.
- 34:33OK. So the difference is I have Roma
- 34:37in. That's the only difference.
- 34:40And you have Louvre. In it, right?
- 34:42All right. Let's go love it.
- 34:45And then we have some discrepancy.
- 34:46Top 40 Tay's Day. Very exciting.
- 34:50I'm glad, I'm glad we kind of went back and squared the circle
- 34:54on that guy. Got our takes on wax.
- 34:57I appreciate you for playing along with me, of course.
- 35:00I like if, if match day one was any indication, how good is this
- 35:07tournament going to be? I mean this this is going to be
- 35:11I look, I I had my doubts. I had my questions with the
- 35:16change in format of the Champions League, the league
- 35:19phase and all this stuff and like who's who's getting into
- 35:22one no clock and all this That was a bummer.
- 35:24Yes, right, but after match day one, and even when you and I
- 35:29were kind of talking about this, like leading up to the preview,
- 35:32that didn't happen, but we kind of had our our our fun preview
- 35:35where we drafted the match day one matches like, you know,
- 35:40UEFA, I, I, I have my qualms with with everything you do.
- 35:46Seems like it seems like you've done another good job.
- 35:48I say UEFA and FIFA, man, I hate a lot of the things you do, but
- 35:53I'm always watching. You always get me there.
- 35:56True. The UEFA is I I feel like
- 35:59they're like half a tier of a tier above the terrible
- 36:03organizations ahead of FIFA and talk about that quick episode
- 36:07calendar. Go back and listen to Part 1 if
- 36:10you missed that. We hit all of the Wednesday
- 36:12matchups and we're going to have some NWSL playoff talk looming
- 36:16and then we'll be back next week as well into the Champions
- 36:19League again. We'll recap match day 2 take a
- 36:22quick look ahead We'll look look down the road to match day
- 36:25three, November 11th, November 12th.
- 36:28Those will be here before we know it cannot wait for match
- 36:31day three, but before we get to that match day 2, there's some
- 36:34match day 2 business to iron out all right man tons of football.
- 36:39I think we did it two parts in the books.
- 36:41Anything else you want to hit before we get out of here?
- 36:43I think that's. It, buddy.
- 36:45I mean, this tournament has all the makings to just be an
- 36:51absolute classic. I I'm I couldn't be happier to
- 36:55be talking about it with you, my good man.
- 36:57Yeah, it's so true. It's so true.
- 36:59I think year year 2 was the, I think a little bit of the wonky
- 37:02year and I think year three we're going to get everybody's
- 37:05best. And I think everybody, well,
- 37:08Barcelona knows we're beatable, right?
- 37:11And everybody knows Barcelona is beatable because we saw it last
- 37:14year. So like last year kind of had
- 37:17that foregone conclusion. And that's not so much playing
- 37:19out. The string felt less open.
- 37:22This year feels weirdly more open, even though we are looking
- 37:27at a Barcelona site that is absolutely terrifying.
- 37:31Like you said, man, all of it stacks up to get us into a
- 37:34position to have a really, really great tournament.
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- 38:09Thanks to all of the above. Much, much more in the
- 38:11description of this episode and a big thank you my coast as
- 38:15well. Mr. Great Angle for always
- 38:17looking sharp mid beer, post beer, pre beer doesn't matter.
- 38:20This is my guy Part 1 Part 2. I know what time it is.
- 38:23This is our time of year bro and I appreciate you.
- 38:25I appreciate you kind of going along for the ride.
- 38:28You know, strap it in preparing for what we're about to embark
- 38:31on and nobody. I'd rather do it with men.
- 38:34Likewise, buddy, I mean and and nobody we would rather do it
- 38:38with as a as a label. I can't, I can't remember what
- 38:44what Suge Knight said as a label, a, a staff and a crew.
- 38:50I think it was AMF. In crew in there, Yeah, I know
- 38:53the punctuation was AMF in crew for.
- 38:55Sure. No, nobody we would rather do it
- 38:57with than all of you. Please for anybody in these, in
- 39:00these countries or supporters of these teams, if we've missed
- 39:03something, if there's a player we haven't considered, if
- 39:06there's something in the match that you think we we overlooked
- 39:09in our, in our preview here or in our, you know, kind of match
- 39:12day one review, match day 2 preview, please let us know.
- 39:15Drop knowledge in the comments. We always appreciate it and we
- 39:18will see you all next time.