Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Finding Chase Massner Ep. 8: Wife suffers cyberbullying & 'horrible gossip'
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Finding Chase Master Episode eight. This week marks three years
- 0:07Speaker 1: since her son, Chase Massner vanished in Cobb County. Living
- 0:11Speaker 1: the last three years with the not knowing and without
- 0:15Speaker 1: him here is pure hell. Chase Massner isn't a rock
- 0:19Speaker 1: War veteran, a husband, a father. His wife told us
- 0:22Speaker 1: she dropped them off at a quickstrip in Cobb County,
- 0:24Speaker 1: where he works. His family says he was last seen
- 0:26Speaker 1: at a friend's house in Kennesaw three years ago on
- 0:29Speaker 1: March and it's like he vanished from that home, not
- 0:33Speaker 1: to be seen or heard from again. If he was
- 0:36Speaker 1: able to reach out to any one of us, he would,
- 0:39Speaker 1: he would. Despite some intense searching, few clues have been found.
- 0:43Speaker 1: She tells me that as a mother, in her heart,
- 0:46Speaker 1: she feels her son Chase is dead. We have absolutely
- 0:49Speaker 1: no answers at all, not even the slightest clue in
- 0:53Speaker 1: three years. Imagine your son that you've loved his whole life,
- 1:00Speaker 1: that you have raised, that you have poured all your
- 1:03Speaker 1: love into, takes off and fights in Iraq. Imagine the
- 1:10Speaker 1: suffering that you go through every day, every night, wondering
- 1:13Speaker 1: he's going to make it home. And then he does,
- 1:17Speaker 1: and you're on top of the world. You are back
- 1:20Speaker 1: with your baby, and then he disappears. You never hear
- 1:26Speaker 1: from him again. Ever, you don't know whether he's dead
- 1:31Speaker 1: or alive. Is there a chance he just took a
- 1:35Speaker 1: powder and never bothered to call you, didn't bother to text,
- 1:38Speaker 1: just left, just dropped off the grid. Could that happen?
- 1:44Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to believe that. That is what
- 1:48Speaker 1: the mother of Chase Master lives through every day of
- 1:52Speaker 1: her life. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
- 1:56Speaker 1: you for being with us. Where is Chase Master? At
- 2:00Speaker 1: the time he mysteriously disappeared, he was married, with beautiful children,
- 2:06Speaker 1: a beautiful wife. He and the wife, Amanda fault like
- 2:11Speaker 1: a cat and a dog. He had a hard time
- 2:14Speaker 1: getting back into the groove with quote regular people once
- 2:19Speaker 1: he came back from Iraq. It's hard. They had money problems,
- 2:24Speaker 1: they had a new baby. Nothing was working. So a
- 2:28Speaker 1: lot of suspicion turned toward her when he went missing.
- 2:33Speaker 1: A lot of people pointed the finger at her. Was
- 2:37Speaker 1: she the last one with him? Did they have an
- 2:40Speaker 1: incredible row? Did she pull a gun on him? Did
- 2:43Speaker 1: she throw him out of the car? What what happened? Finally,
- 2:47Speaker 1: She reveals to me her feelings, where she was that day,
- 2:53Speaker 1: what happened that day, and how it feels for people
- 2:58Speaker 1: to blame you, how it feels for the victim to
- 3:04Speaker 1: somehow turn into the bad guy. Here is Amanda Master.
- 3:12Speaker 1: There are a lot of things in my path, but
- 3:19Speaker 1: I am not proud of doing me too. I think
- 3:24Speaker 1: there's nobody around here that hasn't done something in their
- 3:27Speaker 1: past that they will be mortified if the world found
- 3:30Speaker 1: out about. And there are a lot of mistakes that
- 3:33Speaker 1: have made I'm not trying to hide them. I'm not
- 3:37Speaker 1: trying to lie about them. But I love my husband
- 3:43Speaker 1: very much and I love my children very much. And
- 3:49Speaker 1: four months after my husband disappeared, God came into my
- 3:53Speaker 1: life and change who are You? And with me things
- 4:00Speaker 1: that I didn't think we're possible for me and I
- 4:03Speaker 1: didn't even think we're real. Brought me to a place
- 4:08Speaker 1: that was safe and took me away from so much.
- 4:18Speaker 1: And I might not I have talked to media or
- 4:24Speaker 1: seemed like I was looking or cared about answers, but
- 4:31Speaker 1: turning it over to God and raising my children the
- 4:35Speaker 1: right way with godly people and just focusing on then,
- 4:44Speaker 1: to me is doing so much more to honor my husband,
- 4:49Speaker 1: then obsessing and going crazy like I did the first
- 4:55Speaker 1: couple of months over details and over all these little things.
- 5:02Speaker 1: And the reason that I'm sitting here three years later,
- 5:06Speaker 1: finally talking to you is because I can with peace
- 5:13Speaker 1: without going crazy, knowing that God does know exactly or
- 5:20Speaker 1: chases I don't need to know. And I'm not talking
- 5:25Speaker 1: to you because I have to know. I'm talking to
- 5:28Speaker 1: you because there's so many lies, there's so many things
- 5:33Speaker 1: that are false out there, so many people have it
- 5:38Speaker 1: so wrong. I'm glad you said that. What what do
- 5:44Speaker 1: you like to clear up for the record anything. I
- 5:50Speaker 1: think that so many people are focused on They're not
- 5:54Speaker 1: focused on the fact that mental illness is part of this.
- 5:59Speaker 1: They're not focused on the fact that I just feel like,
- 6:06Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like some of it's just sometimes
- 6:09Speaker 1: I feel like I'm speaking on an episode of Jerry
- 6:11Speaker 1: Springer when I talked about some of this. To be
- 6:14Speaker 1: honest with you, but like we were not like pot farmers, Okay,
- 6:21Speaker 1: Like that's just ridiculous weird, Okay, And Chase was he wasn't.
- 6:31Speaker 1: He didn't owe money to like crazy dope dealers, Okay.
- 6:36Speaker 1: And we were not in our front yard screaming at
- 6:41Speaker 1: each other every day. Okay, we did not have a
- 6:46Speaker 1: horrible marriage. These are not facts. These are It's just cossip.
- 6:55Speaker 1: It's horrible cossip, and cyber bullying is a horrible Do
- 7:03Speaker 1: you feel like you are and have been a victim
- 7:08Speaker 1: of online believing? Absolutely and horrible slander. You know what
- 7:13Speaker 1: people do, Amanda what she already know. People want to
- 7:20Speaker 1: help find Chase. They think you may be alive, they
- 7:24Speaker 1: think he may have been murdered. So they take every
- 7:29Speaker 1: perceived inconsistency and like Amanda had Chase his phone, how
- 7:36Speaker 1: did she get Chase his phone? Did she get it
- 7:38Speaker 1: after he was killed? There in their minds helping and
- 7:44Speaker 1: they are looking for inconsistencies, They are looking for answers.
- 7:50Speaker 1: I don't think people do it maliciously. I don't think
- 7:53Speaker 1: they do. But what happens is you read it and
- 7:57Speaker 1: it hurts. But I do feel like there are certain
- 8:01Speaker 1: people that are after you. I know there are because
- 8:06Speaker 1: there are certain people that slept outside my home, who
- 8:10Speaker 1: slept out your home, that followed me to work. There
- 8:15Speaker 1: are certain people that came to Iowa and slept outside
- 8:18Speaker 1: my home. You saw them, saw them. My neighbors chased
- 8:24Speaker 1: them away, that you had answers or thank you that
- 8:29Speaker 1: you did it. Let's just put it out there. They
- 8:31Speaker 1: think you had a hand in Chase's disappearance for murder.
- 8:35Speaker 1: And there are certain people that have threatened me. Certainly
- 8:38Speaker 1: people followed you all the way, No I know they did.
- 8:42Speaker 1: They talked to my neighbors, they asked about me. And
- 8:47Speaker 1: this is not the polace. These are just they are
- 8:49Speaker 1: not the police. They wrote their names and numbers down
- 8:53Speaker 1: on pieces of paper and gave them to my neighbors.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Certain people came to Iowa and told my neighbors that
- 9:00Speaker 1: I was a horrible drug dealer from from Georgia running
- 9:03Speaker 1: away from the cops. This is the type of stuff
- 9:07Speaker 1: that people have done. And what they might not get
- 9:11Speaker 1: is that it's not just about me. The girls, these
- 9:15Speaker 1: are my children. It's not about me. These are chess children.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I have a question about something you said. You said
- 9:25Speaker 1: that God has shown you things that you didn't even
- 9:28Speaker 1: think a real Like what like the power that God
- 9:33Speaker 1: has to change things in your life, Like the power
- 9:38Speaker 1: that God has to transform not only how I see things,
- 9:46Speaker 1: but how I feel about things. In an instant, I
- 9:52Speaker 1: went from obsessing over needing to know everything to have
- 9:56Speaker 1: total peace and not needing to know, and it was
- 10:01Speaker 1: it's incredible for me letting you out of prison, which
- 10:04Speaker 1: your mind. Do you think you will ever know what
- 10:11Speaker 1: happened on this earth if God wants you to? But
- 10:17Speaker 1: it would be for his gluelory. Wow. You know. After
- 10:21Speaker 1: I talked to Amanda Alan Duke, I believe completely that
- 10:27Speaker 1: although I don't agree with some of her choices, I
- 10:30Speaker 1: don't think she had anything to do with Chase's disappearance. Nancy.
- 10:35Speaker 1: I have the same feeling the pain that she suffers
- 10:38Speaker 1: because she is the victim in this and her two daughters.
- 10:42Speaker 1: Yet people who are well intentioned, who are really wanting
- 10:48Speaker 1: to find what happened to Chase Master look towards her
- 10:51Speaker 1: and she becomes the suspect. But it got really bizarre
- 10:55Speaker 1: in her case and unfortunately other cases too. There's actually
- 10:58Speaker 1: a guy doing I'm in a Georgia prison right now.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I'll give his name. He was convicted Paul Liebrey. We've
- 11:05Speaker 1: talked about him in our previous episodes. He's doing time
- 11:08Speaker 1: in prison now because he was convicted of impersonating a
- 11:11Speaker 1: police officer and pretending like he was a detective to
- 11:15Speaker 1: help the families of missing children or people in Georgia,
- 11:19Speaker 1: in Cobb County where Chase disappeared, and in Douglas County, Georgia.
- 11:23Speaker 1: So what does that have to do with Amanda. Well,
- 11:25Speaker 1: he actually tried, He befriended Amanda, he became close to Amanda.
- 11:30Speaker 1: He actually, according to Amanda and others, tried to put
- 11:35Speaker 1: a camera in her home to spy on her under
- 11:38Speaker 1: the guise of he was watching over her. It's really bizarre.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Another she talks about a stalker, there was actually this
- 11:46Speaker 1: person who wanted to solve the case who followed her
- 11:50Speaker 1: out to Iowa and showed up at her home in
- 11:54Speaker 1: that small town in Iowa telling people that he was
- 11:57Speaker 1: investigating Chase Master's disappearance. And he was asking questions about
- 12:01Speaker 1: what she was doing. Now, that's pretty scary. So Amanda,
- 12:05Speaker 1: because of that and a lot more harassment, leaves town.
- 12:11Speaker 1: She packs up and leaves, takes her children because she's
- 12:14Speaker 1: just kind of scared. Do you know people follow her
- 12:19Speaker 1: to her new location. They go around asking people in
- 12:24Speaker 1: her new neighborhood what do you know about Amanda? Do
- 12:27Speaker 1: you know her husband disappear? And we believe he's dead.
- 12:29Speaker 1: She may be the last one with him. What do
- 12:31Speaker 1: you know, what do you mean going around to her
- 12:34Speaker 1: new neighbors and acting like she's the suspect. Alan, The
- 12:40Speaker 1: lesson from this, for me and I hope for others, is, yes,
- 12:45Speaker 1: help us solve these crimes, help us find these clues,
- 12:49Speaker 1: help us draw attention to these cases. But let's be careful.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Let's be careful about turning the true victim into the
- 12:58Speaker 1: victim of another time. Ho ho ho, hold on, yes,
- 13:00Speaker 1: you know, Alan, that drastically statistics show did the person
- 13:08Speaker 1: most likely to commit a homicide is your partner. It's
- 13:13Speaker 1: your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your husband, your wife, your ex.
- 13:18Speaker 1: So of course people are going to look at Amanda.
- 13:21Speaker 1: So so don't suggest that that is not real. It
- 13:25Speaker 1: is real. Yes, it's real, but in this case, in
- 13:29Speaker 1: this case, and just be careful that. What I'm saying is,
- 13:32Speaker 1: ask yourself if you're being fair to that person in
- 13:36Speaker 1: what you post on social media, what you're saying in
- 13:38Speaker 1: chat rooms, that sort of. It was brutal. It was brutal,
- 13:42Speaker 1: and just remember that, because well, there's only one thing
- 13:46Speaker 1: to do, Alan, and what is that. We've got a
- 13:49Speaker 1: Fine Chase Master. That's what we're working on. I feel
- 13:52Speaker 1: good about it. Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off, goodbye friend,