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Life Beyond The Trilogy The Law Of Solitude From YA Author Anthony Peckham · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: How many times have you wandered into Barnes and Noble
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  Speaker 1: Hello and good afternoon everybody. How you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Goohod?
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  Speaker 1: How are you absolutely fantastic? So what's going on with
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  Speaker 1: your creative mine?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm in Hawaii, that's where I live, so
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  Speaker 3: and I'm finally I'm finally off my road trip of
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  Speaker 3: my book signing road trip and a variety of other
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  Speaker 3: things and come, and so my creative mind is still
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  Speaker 3: somewhat asleep and sucking down coffee.
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  Speaker 1: What is that like for you to go out and
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  Speaker 1: meet the readers, because I would I would have it
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  Speaker 1: like a notebook with me and I'll just take notes
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  Speaker 1: after notes after notes. Or is it something where it's
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  Speaker 1: it's the art of listening, and you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get caught writing.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was meeting booksellers actually not readers, and introducing
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  Speaker 3: myself to booksellers and independent bookstores, not not only Bonds
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  Speaker 3: and Nobles as well, and.
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  Speaker 2: It was wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: All the bookstores I went to between Bethesda and Charleston, many.
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  Speaker 2: Were full of people buying books. Yep, yep, it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was incredibly heartening to see these lively independent bookstores,
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  Speaker 3: many of them with coffee, say, and places to sit,
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  Speaker 3: and they become sort of little incubators meeting places.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 3: So I you know, I'm always very grateful to people
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  Speaker 3: who work that hard to keep what we love doing alive,
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  Speaker 3: and so I make sure to say.
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  Speaker 1: That I've seen people go through a transition. I mean
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  Speaker 1: there for the longest time it was the digital way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, my book can be with me. But
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  Speaker 1: there is so much to be said about going to
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  Speaker 1: a book sore, because I know that at Park Road
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  Speaker 1: Shopping Center they've got the small bookstore here in Charlotte.
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  Speaker 1: My god, you have to wait in line to get
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  Speaker 1: in there because it's so crowded and people want physical.
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  Speaker 3: Books, yes, yes, And you know, I have a twenty
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  Speaker 3: nine year old daughter, right, and her generation are basically
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  Speaker 3: pushing back against the digital world. It's it's so healthy,
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  Speaker 3: it's amazing. I have a fifteen year old son. His
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  Speaker 3: generation is entirely digital. And so they were the kids
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  Speaker 3: who did zoom school during COVID. Like you know, they
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  Speaker 3: call them the last generation for a reason. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's a bit dire, but that's what I've heard them called.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, as the writer you are, there's got to
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  Speaker 1: be some sort of inspiration in that in some way,
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  Speaker 1: in a very creative way. We're going to find it
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  Speaker 1: in another story, or it's in this one here.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know what it does ear it gives you
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  Speaker 3: the juice, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you the jews.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And I was once in an airport and I
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  Speaker 3: saw a kid reading my book.
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  Speaker 2: And just waiting for a plane.
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  Speaker 3: And first of all, usually you don't see kids reading
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  Speaker 3: any books, but here was this kid reading my book.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't say anything. I was dying to take
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  Speaker 3: a photo, but I didn't. Of course I didn't, of course,
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  Speaker 3: because it was just you know, this giant concourse full
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  Speaker 3: of people, an announcement, and this kid was lost in
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  Speaker 3: my book, And that's pretty much all I ever needed
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  Speaker 3: was that one thing to to see someone losing you
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  Speaker 3: know that. You know, airports are horrible places, so to
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  Speaker 3: lose yourself into the world I created as a way
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  Speaker 3: of dealing with the airport.
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  Speaker 2: Just like that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll write as many books as you want. So
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  Speaker 3: that's that's Yeah. Like I said, that gives you the juice.
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  Speaker 3: And this trip, I couldn't write a word. You know,
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  Speaker 3: my brain was just you know, you're on the move,
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  Speaker 3: you're in hotel rooms. I brought stuff with me to
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  Speaker 3: work on, but I never even I never even thought
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 2: I touched it.
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  Speaker 3: But but but just seeing the world of the books,
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  Speaker 3: the world the books is going into, was very heartening. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well you totally understand that connection between the books and
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  Speaker 1: the reader, because I mean, I'm in the second that
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  Speaker 1: this book arrived in my hands. I mean, I've seen pictures,
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  Speaker 1: but when it arrived in my hands, it was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, this guy is thinking about a movie
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  Speaker 1: because it looks like a movie poster. It makes me
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  Speaker 1: want to go inside. It gives me the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: You can't judge a book by its cover, but by god,
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  Speaker 1: it can service one hell of a damn invitation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yes, that's I mean, I'm very fortunate to
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  Speaker 3: have Dalen Dar's cover art. She's you know, she's no accident.
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  Speaker 2: She's one of Hugo so and uh the but but.
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  Speaker 3: The the physical entity that is a book is to
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  Speaker 3: me anyway, a beautiful thing. You know, it's and like
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  Speaker 3: you said, it's an invitation. It's just sort of like
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  Speaker 3: open me see what's inside. It's sort of ali baba
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  Speaker 3: the cave. You know, it's a cave. It's a kind
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  Speaker 3: of cave, right that that that you're invited to go
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  Speaker 3: into and see what's painted on the walls.
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  Speaker 2: So uh so, yeah, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: And once inside this, I mean, what's so interesting. I'm
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  Speaker 1: an adult and I saw so much of my own
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  Speaker 1: personal journeys and travels through this as a martial artist,
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  Speaker 1: because when you had to leave your master and when
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  Speaker 1: your name means something, I mean all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: you know, then and then it leads up to the
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  Speaker 1: law of solitude. And I'm going, well, you know, why
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  Speaker 1: didn't I know that this was the law of solitude
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  Speaker 1: when I was going through martial arts, Because that because
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  Speaker 1: it's your own unifor verse and that. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I love about your writing style is that you're inviting
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  Speaker 1: me into a place. It's like going to like a
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  Speaker 1: beautiful city like San Francisco or even Jackson Hole, Wyoming
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  Speaker 1: and going, oh my god, I have to have this
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  Speaker 1: with me from now on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I I I always.
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  Speaker 2: I suppose I'm old fashioned.
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  Speaker 3: No, I know I'm old fashioned, but but but I
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  Speaker 3: feel as if you don't get power for nothing. The
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  Speaker 3: gift of the gift of power demands payment, and and
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  Speaker 3: and so I always felt that if you had any
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  Speaker 3: kind of power, but especially power like sorcery, there there
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  Speaker 3: would be a great price to pay. And so it
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  Speaker 3: always felt as if, and you know, already in the
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  Speaker 3: world I've created theoretically many many thousands of years ago,
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  Speaker 3: sorcerers are disappearing because for a number of reasons. But
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  Speaker 3: but one of the reasons is the sacrifice is too
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  Speaker 3: great to sacrifice love. Wow, And and and that's that's
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  Speaker 3: a massive sacrifice.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move. We've got more with Anthony Peckham coming
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  Speaker 1: up next. The name of the book The Law of Solitude.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with author Anthony Peckham. Wouldn't you like
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  Speaker 1: to be able to when when a reader is there
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  Speaker 1: and they're experiencing that, just to say, what did you feel?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: What did you hear? Inside your imagination? Because the voices
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  Speaker 1: in our head never go away, especially when we're reading.
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  Speaker 1: And when you read stuff like that, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: it's like you're just drawn deeper into the actual veins
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  Speaker 1: of the book.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that i'd want to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: pry that much, but but I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Want to ask them.
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  Speaker 3: I would love to hook them up to some you
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  Speaker 3: know neural net that that that that showed them, showed
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  Speaker 3: the bits of their brain lighting up, you know, as
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  Speaker 3: they're reading, and the sort of flicker of light in
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  Speaker 3: their consciousness.
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  Speaker 2: As certain things.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it would be as you know, while they're
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  Speaker 3: sort of if they bored, there would be a certain
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  Speaker 3: dull light and then they'd there'd be spikes, and then
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  Speaker 3: it'd be flames, and then it'd be you know, the
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  Speaker 3: whole thing would go super and over, hopefully at a climax.
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  Speaker 2: And I would love to see that.
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  Speaker 3: And then well the other thing is, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: I so I do classroom visits. And here in my
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  Speaker 3: little country town in Hawaii, there is a there is
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  Speaker 3: a Hawaiian charter school where they love my books because
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  Speaker 3: and they teach my books because the Hawaiian kids, who
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  Speaker 3: who are all incredibly competent physically right, they can hunt,
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  Speaker 3: they can butcher what they catch, they can fish. They
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  Speaker 3: are expected to be competent and contribute to their o'hanna
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  Speaker 3: at a very young age. And they they really resonated
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  Speaker 3: with my characters, especially Tell and Wren. Yes, and one
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  Speaker 3: of them just stomped up to me and said.
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  Speaker 2: Why isn't a story finished? Because they read just the
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  Speaker 2: first one. She came up to me and said, why
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  Speaker 2: isn't this finished?
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  Speaker 3: And I said, well, because there's more to tell, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's more coming.
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  Speaker 2: No, I want it now.
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  Speaker 3: And it was the best thing ever, you know, They
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  Speaker 3: all they they I when I when I do classroom visits,
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  Speaker 3: I bring obsidian with me. And I have two knives
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  Speaker 3: that were handmade by a cultural practitioner in northern New Mexico,
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  Speaker 3: beautiful knives with you know, snapped napped blades, cedar wood
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  Speaker 3: handles and and and antelope singew, you know, binding the
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  Speaker 3: blade to the haft and and I will you know,
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  Speaker 3: I always ask teachers permissions, and they're always do not
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  Speaker 3: give those to the kids, and but show but everyone
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  Speaker 3: wants to see those, of course, and hold I let
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  Speaker 3: them hold these big chunk chunks of obsidian I've got,
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  Speaker 3: which are just.
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  Speaker 2: Clearly black glass.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's a different extra different mineral colors in
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  Speaker 3: the glass, but it's clearly black glass.
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  Speaker 2: And they it's.
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  Speaker 3: It's they, especially the kids here who are so tactile already,
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  Speaker 3: they just love that and it's very inspiring. And they
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  Speaker 3: they hate certain characters and they love other characters, and
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  Speaker 3: they that would make they're so engaged. They're so engaged.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've read the first book yet,
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  Speaker 3: but that their mother, Lillid is she's sort of my
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  Speaker 3: favorite character. She's the most ambiguous. She is someone people
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  Speaker 3: love to hate, and there's a subgroup of people who.
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  Speaker 2: Hate her more.
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  Speaker 3: They they they even hate me for thinking of her.
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  Speaker 2: No, and they are you know who they, you know
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  Speaker 2: who they are.
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  Speaker 3: The they're family therapists. She's a terrible mother, but also
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  Speaker 3: very relatable and understandable, and it's sort of.
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  Speaker 2: Another group of women really relate to her.
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  Speaker 3: Because she followed her own ambition and you know, is
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  Speaker 3: probably bipolar, you know, or something like that, and so
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  Speaker 3: to just circle back to your question, I love the.
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  Speaker 2: Audience responses, I really do.
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  Speaker 3: I love all of the audience the reader responses, and
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  Speaker 3: the more passionate they are, the better.
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  Speaker 1: I love how witty you are because and the way
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  Speaker 1: that you do that is that it inspires me to
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  Speaker 1: think that the readers, who might be introverts or might
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  Speaker 1: be in their own little world, the wittiness invites them
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  Speaker 1: to go be witty with their own friends when talking
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  Speaker 1: about the book or just talking about life in general,
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  Speaker 1: because if they can see witty on a page, they'll
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  Speaker 1: try to do witty in everyday world.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm you know, thank you. You're the only person
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  Speaker 3: who's ever seen that in the books. Everyone else, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: everyone else thinks they're very serious and very dark. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, I come from a I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you've ever been to England or Australia or any of
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  Speaker 3: the Commonwealth countries where I grew up. You better be
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  Speaker 3: witty because it's coming at you. You know, you better
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  Speaker 3: be quick, you better be witty, You better be able
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  Speaker 3: to engage.
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  Speaker 2: And I love that.
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  Speaker 3: It's humor, but it's you know, humor is one of
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  Speaker 3: the lubricants of our social lubricants that we have and.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for seeing that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's because that being in radio as
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  Speaker 1: long as I have in radio, we always say that
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  Speaker 1: we have our own language. And I'm sitting here reading
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  Speaker 1: your book going no, no, no, no no no. Anthony
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  Speaker 1: was either a radio person before this or something, because
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  Speaker 1: he is speaking the same street that radio people do,
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  Speaker 1: with that wittingness that we will say things that other
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  Speaker 1: people might be offended by, which is the reason why
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  Speaker 1: we had a sign that always hung above the door.
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  Speaker 1: If you come past this door, expect a different way
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  Speaker 1: that people speak. And I think that's why I could
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  Speaker 1: identify it in your story.
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  Speaker 3: Well, like I said, I'm grateful, and no one else
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  Speaker 3: sees any humor. I mean, I think the Kircus review
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  Speaker 3: of the Law of Solitude gave a grudging nod to it.
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  Speaker 2: But otherwise, no, everyone just sees the darkness.
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  Speaker 3: But and I mean I you know, I think that
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  Speaker 3: even the villages up in at the mountain who are
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  Speaker 3: so duer and grim, there's sort of a grim wit
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  Speaker 3: to them that I imagined, sort of like Yorkshire villages
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  Speaker 3: of two thousand years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Might have had.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you just have to have humor to survive
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  Speaker 3: hardship and suffering and anyway, well, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So now how does the story grow forward? Because now
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  Speaker 1: I still have that vision of the child coming up
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  Speaker 1: to you saying are you done with the story? Because
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I'll probably do the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm still a couple of chapters away from closing this.
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  Speaker 1: And now I want to say I'm probably going to
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  Speaker 1: be the one saying, but there's got to be more,
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  Speaker 1: give me a spinoff. And then you talk about the mother,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, okay, now I want that story. I
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  Speaker 1: want her story in it. And so you're breaking it
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  Speaker 1: up in a way to where I'm going, there's got
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  Speaker 1: to be more to this. It can't come to an end.
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  Speaker 1: I need more.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've left room for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it would have to be something that was invited
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  Speaker 3: by the trilogy, has to sell a certain amount. No,
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  Speaker 3: I've definitely left room for it because no, I just well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil it for you, because actually
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  Speaker 3: the last chapter will.
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  Speaker 2: Answer some of your questions. And but.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the the mother is a dangerous character. She
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  Speaker 3: even if she loves you, she is going to be
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  Speaker 3: plotting and scheming and trying to find her own power
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  Speaker 3: in your relationship. That's who she is, and so she's
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  Speaker 3: been left behind in halfway by her children.
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  Speaker 2: M Anyway, while I don't really want it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't spoil it me. Yeah because I because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, our school season is about ready to begin,
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  Speaker 1: and I want this book in those students' hands, and
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  Speaker 1: I also want it for parents to be reading as
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  Speaker 1: we wrap up the summer. So let me twist the
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  Speaker 1: subject just a little bit here. While you're writing, are
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  Speaker 1: you listening to music? Because what I do is I
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  Speaker 1: always put my my Alexa on frequency one five, which
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  Speaker 1: is a certain rhythm of music, and Matt, my god,
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  Speaker 1: it's almost like it serves as a soundtrack while I'm
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  Speaker 1: going through the storylines. It gives me that soundtrack in
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  Speaker 1: the background, which makes me wonder, are you listening to
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  Speaker 1: music while you write?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I I know it's weird because a lot of people do.
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  Speaker 3: I find that really distracting. I have an office.
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  Speaker 2: That is sort of dark and cool and calm, and and.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like, as I say, these days, sitting is
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  Speaker 3: the new smoking. So I might I blew out my
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  Speaker 3: neck writing at a desk, and you know, hunched over
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  Speaker 3: and so and so I write in a sort of
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  Speaker 3: an astronaut chair tilted back with a screen on my computer,
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  Speaker 3: screen on an arm, and oh no, it's saved my career.
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  Speaker 2: It's uh.
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  Speaker 3: And the and the keyboard on my lap and the
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  Speaker 3: mask on the arm of the chair, and I sort
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  Speaker 3: of yea, all my dialogue, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And so as I'm writing, I'm sort of hearing.
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  Speaker 3: The words as if they were as if they were
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  Speaker 3: being read to me. And and so no, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I can't because I just started listening to the music.
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  Speaker 2: I do. I do other things to music.
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  Speaker 3: I'm also a sculptor on the side, and that I
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  Speaker 3: have music all the time. And so no, no music.
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  Speaker 3: Leaned back like an astronaut, you know, with my with
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  Speaker 3: you can find the chairs and leaned back in a
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  Speaker 3: way that you don't fall asleep, because there's very good
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  Speaker 3: yep blood supply it to your brain and your lungue
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  Speaker 3: that way, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And off I go.
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  Speaker 1: I chuckle about this because I've been blessed with the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to a lot of astronauts, and so
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  Speaker 1: when you're talking like that, I'm going, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I cannot wait to talk to these astronauts again and
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  Speaker 1: tell them about you and your chair. And I know
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  Speaker 1: we're all going to sit here and laugh like children,
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  Speaker 1: because there's something that happens when you're in a chair
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the chair is literally based on the NASA design
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  Speaker 3: of you know, and it tilts to that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: upon our thirteen tilts. So and it's, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: it's saved my career. I used to not be able
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: to write for more than twenty minutes at a time
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: because of because of neckpain. And that's all that's all gone. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Because I want them to dive in. I want them
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to learn so much about you, and I want them
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: to create their own journey with you.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: They can go to my website www. Anthony Peckham dot
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: com and to my insta which is at Anthony Peckham
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: writes and they can get as much of me as
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I'm a fairly private person and that's that's that's how
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: they can learn.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Quite a lot about me. Actually, And I'm in the books.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I'm not someone who's keeps their books at a distance
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: from themselves.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's me in there. Wow. So yeah, that's how
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you find out more about me.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Well, you can google me, and you you google me,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and you'll find out about my movie career and see
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: me on a red carpet with with rugby players twice
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  Speaker 3: my size.
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  Speaker 2: And all of that.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Well, you've got to come back to this show anytime
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: in the future. The door is always going to be
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: open for you.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I really enjoy it. This is my favorite thing I do.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I love talking to you and the questions you ask.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: So I will come back and you can. You can
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: ping me too, and we can talk about the business
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: of you know, the trick of writing, the craft of writing,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: if the things I've done to make myself right for
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  Speaker 3: forty years and support my family happily, so we can
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: talk about that as well.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Will you be brilliant today?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, sir, Thank you, you too,