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Popcorn Moment: Todd Rokita · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 2: Then grab your popcorn, because there is more. UH. The
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  Speaker 2: Attorney General of Indiana is Todd Rokita. He joins us
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  Speaker 2: right now. There's been a lot going on from your office,
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  Speaker 2: and I want to get into some of it with you,
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  Speaker 2: some of the things going on with Lily UH and
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  Speaker 2: and then of course some other work. But let's start
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  Speaker 2: with what you are observing and watching in Minnesota. I
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  Speaker 2: know your parts of other lawsuits going on regarding UH
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  Speaker 2: safety and security in every state is a border state.
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  Speaker 2: But as you have seen Ice maneuvering, and you have
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  Speaker 2: seen the the pushback and now the replacements of Bavino
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  Speaker 2: of border patrol with Tom Homan, which doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: me to be as big of a deal in terms
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  Speaker 2: of the practicality as others. Is what is your take
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  Speaker 2: on what you're witnessing from the government side and what
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  Speaker 2: you're witnessing from the so called protester side.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, Tony, Well, you know, my interactions with ICE in Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: Law enforcement interaction with ICE have been very very good, very.
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  Speaker 3: Professional, and they're very responsive. So you know, I see
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  Speaker 3: the videos that you all are seeing.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to tell.
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  Speaker 3: I don't from an evidentiary standpoint, you know, I think
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  Speaker 3: I should be commenting and judging on what motives were
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  Speaker 3: and all that stuff, because it's just not accurate or.
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  Speaker 1: Right to do. But you know, we have a standard
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  Speaker 1: ground law.
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  Speaker 3: The Arizona Attorney General completely misrepresented what that law is
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  Speaker 3: supposed to do, especially in the states like Indiana and
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  Speaker 3: Arizona at risk causing problems. There's there's been a call
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  Speaker 3: for a full investigation. I think ICE wants to do that.
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  Speaker 3: Homeland Security asks for that investigation. So we got to
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  Speaker 3: let all that play out. But in Indiana, you know,
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  Speaker 3: most of our sheriffs do a great job working with ICE.
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  Speaker 3: I say sheriffs because tell me, they're the jailers and
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  Speaker 3: so they're the ones that would hold an illegal alien
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  Speaker 3: until federalized officials can pick them up. I do have
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  Speaker 3: two lawsuits going on against sheriffs who haven't complied, and
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  Speaker 3: so we have some work to do in Indiana. We
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  Speaker 3: have a good sanctuary city law, it needs better enforcement
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  Speaker 3: teeth by my office, and we're working in the General
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  Speaker 3: Assembly with J. D. Prescott to get a good bill
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  Speaker 3: done in that regard.
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  Speaker 1: We also are working with J. D.
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  Speaker 3: Prescott to to make sure we have better ice Titaniel
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  Speaker 3: language and better enforcement authority here at the Turney General's
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  Speaker 3: Office to go after aarrant businesses.
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  Speaker 1: Who knowing we hire I llegal aliens.
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  Speaker 3: So hopefully that moves forward, Hopefully it's not sabotaged by
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  Speaker 3: some liberal Indiana senators.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll see talking to Todd Raketa, Attorney General of Indiana,
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  Speaker 2: and on these subject of lawsuits, there's also a lawsuit
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  Speaker 2: you filed against Eli Lilly, as reported by the Indianapolis
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  Speaker 2: Business journal Daniel lee A reporting it's alleging that Lily
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  Speaker 2: participates in a scheme with other insulin manufacturers and pharmacy
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  Speaker 2: benefit managers to inflate insulin prices. Now, the story about
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  Speaker 2: PBMs pharmacy benefit managers is massive, and there's this pro
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  Speaker 2: and there's this against and it's a real lobbying effort.
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  Speaker 2: But what is it that the lawsuit is specifically alleging.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tody, So the reason this is Indiana's strategy to
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  Speaker 3: go after the problems in PBM's pharmacy benefit managers. They're
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  Speaker 3: the middlemen, and I believe from my experience in Congress
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  Speaker 3: and in healthcare and now as Attorney General.
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  Speaker 1: That they are a significant part. They're not the only.
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  Speaker 3: Part of why drug prices are so high, but it's
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  Speaker 3: an outdated model and there needs to be some serious
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  Speaker 3: So my strategy for Indiana, rather than trying to have
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  Speaker 3: Tony a jury sit through understanding all the PBMs and
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  Speaker 3: all the drug formulaias and all these things that some
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  Speaker 3: of the other states are trying to approach, I want
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  Speaker 3: to approach it with one drug. One drug, insulin, which
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  Speaker 3: is you know, very well known. It's been around for
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  Speaker 3: over one hundred years. In fact, Lily is primarily responsible
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  Speaker 3: for its invention and its distribution for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: So we started with insulin. Two years ago.
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  Speaker 3: We sued most of the industry and PBM manufacturers m
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  Speaker 3: PBMs over insulin, and that suits ongoing. I particularly kept
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  Speaker 3: Lily out because it's not lost on me that their hometown,
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  Speaker 3: It's not lost on me how much they do for
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  Speaker 3: the state. In hopes not to let them off any
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  Speaker 3: kind of hook, but in hopes that they would work
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  Speaker 3: with me. Well, after two years of being strung along,
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  Speaker 3: that failed, and so pursue it to my promise to
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  Speaker 3: them and to the people of the state of Indiana,
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  Speaker 3: I now have inserted them in in the ongoing.
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  Speaker 1: Two year lawsuits. So that's what that's about.
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  Speaker 2: What are you are you I'm sorry to interrupt. Are
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  Speaker 2: you alleging that with these pharmacy benefit managers, they're the
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  Speaker 2: ones who are supposed to negotiate prices with drug manufacturers
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  Speaker 2: for lower costs for everybody who is is utilizing that plan?
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  Speaker 2: Is the argument that they're colluding on fixing a price?
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  Speaker 2: What is the what is the argument regarding Lily or
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  Speaker 2: any other company.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word colluding because that's
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  Speaker 1: certainly my way, but they don't. They don't.
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  Speaker 3: Have you mentioned you describe it as them having our
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  Speaker 3: best interests at heart, and they don't.
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  Speaker 1: They have their own. And there's the conflict.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, the extent they get rebates and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: they pay themselves back with those rebates instead of passing
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  Speaker 3: those rebate bates through to consumers. With regard to in
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  Speaker 3: the insulent context, and why Lily is involved. Is because
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  Speaker 3: Lily has most of the market shareman, So when the
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  Speaker 3: drug has been around for like I said, one hundred years,
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  Speaker 3: and it's true recently Lily dragged the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: industry into reducing the insulin price. This lawsuit that I
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  Speaker 3: have goes after path conduct of manufacturers like Lily. Okay, great,
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  Speaker 3: you know you've been charging hundreds of dollars for it
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  Speaker 3: for decades and it cost two dollars to make explain
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  Speaker 3: and so that's what that lawsuit's about. But the PBMs
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  Speaker 3: are not aligned with the consumer. The PBMs Tony are
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  Speaker 3: aligned with themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Talking to the Attorney General Todd or Okeda regarding some
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  Speaker 2: actions taking place from his office and the other one
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  Speaker 2: of course, as we talk about it here full disclosure,
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  Speaker 2: Indiana Unclaimed is in the office of the Attorney General.
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  Speaker 2: Indiana unclaims as a sponsor of WIVC and they sponsor
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  Speaker 2: the marketplace some other things. People have been coming and
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  Speaker 2: getting their cash. It's been a big push from your office,
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  Speaker 2: Indiana Unclaimed dot gov. Exactly how much money are you
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  Speaker 2: sitting on right now?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? We have how much?
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  Speaker 3: Man, We're sitting on hundreds of millions close to a
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  Speaker 3: billion dollars money we're sitting on trying to get it out.
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  Speaker 3: I've been very aggressive and thanks to you and Hammer
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  Speaker 3: and Nigel on WIBC for your help. We had a
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  Speaker 3: record year last year. We got eighty eight million dollars
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  Speaker 3: back to their right flowners.
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  Speaker 1: Very proud of that.
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  Speaker 3: And this is important because if the state holds onto
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  Speaker 3: this unclaimed property, and you do such a good job
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  Speaker 3: to any describing examples of what that unclaimed property is,
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  Speaker 3: if the state holds on to it for more than
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  Speaker 3: twenty five years, it goes to the state, becomes the
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  Speaker 3: state's property. In fact, we lose about two million dollars
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  Speaker 3: a year to the state because it's been sitting around
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  Speaker 3: for twenty five years.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to get that money back to people.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a self that the program's funds itself. It's
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  Speaker 3: not using taxpayer dollars. And the money that we are
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  Speaker 3: quote unquote sitting on isn't taxpayer dollars either. Like you say,
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  Speaker 3: it's your money, so we appreciate if you try to
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  Speaker 3: claim it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I looked up me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm covered, but I did look up a producer Carl. Nope,
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  Speaker 2: there's no money for him. But Matt Bear, Matt Bear there,
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  Speaker 2: there might be some cash for you.
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  Speaker 1: You need to get in here. You need to be
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  Speaker 1: taking a look. You could be.
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  Speaker 2: Sitting on quite literally, tens of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Increases his bachelor eligibility. Now we're talking, yeah, thousands of dollars.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, the Attorney General has offered Matt to
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  Speaker 2: be your wingman.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. That's an honor.
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  Speaker 2: He's all in right there. He'll he'll supply the he'll
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  Speaker 2: supply the diet Cox and and just to leave you
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  Speaker 2: be and take one for the team. Todd Rakeita, Attorney
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  Speaker 2: General of the State of Indiana, I appreciate you taking
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  Speaker 2: the time to be with us.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk more about this Lily lawsuit as well.