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FULL SHOW: Cardi B Performs ‘ErrTime’, ‘Be Careful’ & More On NPR Tiny Desk + Haviv Rettig Gur & Cenk Uygur Interview · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Woke up, woke up, wake you up, wake you up,
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  Speaker 1: wake that ass up. Program your alarm to power 105.1
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  Speaker 3: I'm in Atlanta. I had a film yesterday. I'm filming
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  Speaker 3: this new show or whatever. Can't really say what it
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  Speaker 3: is or what it's about because when y'all see it,
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  Speaker 3: it's definitely on brand for me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah. I couldn't do radio yesterday, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: here today. I'm in Atlanta. Shout out to the Atlanta station.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here with BJ Louis V.
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  Speaker 1: Salute to my guy, Louis V. South Carolina all day.
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  Speaker 1: Salute to Atlanta, too, man. Drop on the clues bombs
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  Speaker 1: for the Atlanta dream. I thoroughly enjoyed watching them bust
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  Speaker 1: the Valkyrie's ass last night, man. Angel Reese was... Man,
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  Speaker 1: she was on fire last night. She had like 30.16 rebounds,
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  Speaker 1: few assists, still a couple of blocks. She's a pleasure
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  Speaker 1: to watch. She is so fun to watch. She brings
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  Speaker 1: excitement to the league, yes. No matter what she's doing
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  Speaker 1: on the court, whether it's offense, defense, even when she's
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  Speaker 1: on the bench, she just has such a star power
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  Speaker 1: and a quality about her, and she's so passionate about
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  Speaker 1: the game. It's really fun to watch, man. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: We'll break all that down in front page news. And
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  Speaker 2: salute to the New Jersey School Board. New Jersey School
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  Speaker 2: Board yesterday, they do this conference each and every year
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  Speaker 2: where they bring all the teachers, a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: teachers in New Jersey around to help with resources, teaching,
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  Speaker 2: and classes.
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  Speaker 1: So I do their kickoff party.
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  Speaker 2: So it was about, I would say, maybe a thousand
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  Speaker 2: teachers out there last night in Atlantic City. So I
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  Speaker 2: drove out to Atlantic City, did that part, and then
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  Speaker 2: got right back this morning. So salute to all the
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  Speaker 2: teachers out there. All the teachers out there, I just
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  Speaker 2: want to tell you, we appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we do. Dropping the clues bombs to those underpaid,
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  Speaker 1: unappreciated individuals that we trust our kids with every damn day. Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's get the show cracking. Who's joining us today, Charlemagne?
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  Speaker 1: Habib Gurr. Okay, Habib Gurr is an Israeli journalist, and
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  Speaker 1: he's the host of the Ask Habib Anything podcast. So
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  Speaker 1: he'll be here to talk about, you know, of course,
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  Speaker 1: the Israel-Palestinian conflict and, you know, Zionism and all types
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. And Cenk Uygur will be joining us as well.
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  Speaker 1: Cenk Uygur, yes, that's right. Cenk has been here... quite
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  Speaker 1: a few times before. He is the co-host of the
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  Speaker 1: Young Turks Network. Not just the co-host, the founder and
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  Speaker 1: creator of the Young Turks Network. So he'll be here
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  Speaker 1: to talk to us this morning as well. That's right.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll talk to both of those individuals this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the show cracking. Today is Snoop Dogg's birthday.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely Snoop's birthday. So it's only right we start.
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  Speaker 1: It is the icon living. That's right. How old is he?
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  Speaker 1: Snoop Dogg.
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  Speaker 4: 55.
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  Speaker 1: Older than Snoop. Older than Snoop.
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  Speaker 3: He's still young. He's grown, but he's still young.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. What do we got for Snoop? Man, come on.
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  Speaker 1: You want to start with a classic.
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  Speaker 5: Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Get a juice? Yes. Let's do it. Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Front page news is next. Get
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  Speaker 2: it off your chest. 800-585-1051 if you need to vent.
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  Speaker 2: Phone lines are wide open.
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  Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Snoop. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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  Speaker 6: Morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: It's DJ Envy. Jess Hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Let's get
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  Speaker 2: in some front page news. Now, let's start off with sports.
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne was talking about the Dream-Valkyries game last night. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the Dream won 79-65. Angel Reese had 30 points, shot
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  Speaker 2: 10 for 16. 16 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks.
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  Speaker 2: She was getting busy last night.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, man, the star power that Angel Reese possesses, like
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  Speaker 1: her passion for the game, that can't be replicated. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you got to be born with that. That's right. And
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  Speaker 1: she got it.
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  Speaker 2: Now, an NFL command that's lost to the 49ers, 23-17.
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  Speaker 2: NFC East sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Can we just get rid of the whole division for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the year? You know how they prune?
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  Speaker 1: In Marvel Universe, they prune timelines. Can we just prune
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  Speaker 1: the NFC East?
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 1: No. We're number one in the division. That means nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is expected to miss the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: season after doctors discovered multiple blood clots in his lungs.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is going to get it. Jesus. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: we want him to be in good health.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to get a huge paycheck. Somebody, them doctors
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  Speaker 1: failed Jalen Hurts. Absolutely. In a real way. Jalen Hurts,
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  Speaker 1: he probably going to get a huge paycheck and step
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  Speaker 1: away from the game, period. If you're like, no, for real. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they failed him in a real way.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And the Tampa Bay Rays beat the Cleveland Guardians 7-3.
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  Speaker 2: So the World Series is the Tampa Bay Rays and
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  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds horrible. But I'm not a baseball fan, so
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  Speaker 1: don't listen to me.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like it's only good when the Yankees are playing,
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  Speaker 2: the Red Sox are playing, or the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that, but that just sounds horrible.
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  Speaker 1: But don't listen to me. I don't watch baseball at
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  Speaker 1: all in no way, shape, or form. I used to
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  Speaker 1: love it in the 90s when everybody was on steroids.
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  Speaker 1: That just sounds terrible. You said the Tampa Bay who?
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Rays and the Brewers. Milwaukee Brewers.
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  Speaker 1: I know the Milwaukee Brewers. You know Tampa Bay. I do,
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  Speaker 1: but not like that. What's up, Mimi?
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, everyone. Hey, Jess.
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  Speaker 4: Peace, Mimi Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: So we start this morning in Alabama.
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  Speaker 7: That's where a predominantly black town is raising questions about
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  Speaker 7: why its post office is suddenly shut down weeks before
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  Speaker 7: the midterm elections. So nearly 90% of Akron's residents are black.
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  Speaker 7: So this is Akron, Alabama, not Akron, Ohio. The post
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  Speaker 7: office closed more than two weeks early, leaving residents scrambling
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  Speaker 7: to get their mail. The Democratic Congresswoman, Terri Sewell, is
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  Speaker 7: raising concerns about whether this could interfere with the midterm elections.
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  Speaker 7: So the Postal Service, they're blaming Elise But Sewell says
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  Speaker 7: the landlord's paperwork tells a different story. Plus, the mayor
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  Speaker 7: of the town says this whole thing is a big inconvenience,
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  Speaker 7: especially for its seniors.
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  Speaker 3: Let's listen.
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  Speaker 9: Akron is a community where the average age is 65
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  Speaker 9: and older.
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  Speaker 1: You have people that don't even have cars.
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  Speaker 10: I don't want to bring this up, but the price
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  Speaker 10: of gas and everything, and a lot of people are
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  Speaker 10: on fixed income.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot of people already have their budget planned out.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, so USPS, it brought in a temporary mobile post office,
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  Speaker 7: but that permanent location is still scheduled to close October 31st. See, well,
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  Speaker 7: she wants answers about why it closed so early and
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  Speaker 7: how if the agency has a plan to make sure
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  Speaker 7: every ballot gets delivered on time. So a lot of
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  Speaker 7: people are pointing out this is a very small town
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  Speaker 7: in Alabama. Most people are not paying attention to it.
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  Speaker 3: And the only.
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  Speaker 7: Postal service that they have to be able to pick
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  Speaker 7: up their mail-in ballots, you know, send back their mail-in
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  Speaker 7: ballots is closing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, be prepared for a lot of disruption over the
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  Speaker 1: next few weeks, and none of it will be coincidence.
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  Speaker 1: It will all be by design in order to make
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  Speaker 1: it difficult for people to exercise their right to vote
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  Speaker 1: for the midterms.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: There's going to be all types of tricks you're going
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  Speaker 1: to see.
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  Speaker 7: And President Trump is looking for another White House press
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  Speaker 7: secretary after his latest pick lasted just five days. Katie
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  Speaker 7: Zachariah is out after a rocky first week, including a
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  Speaker 7: White House press briefing that lasted 15 minutes yesterday. where
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  Speaker 7: she struggled to answer questions from reporters. She called herself
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  Speaker 7: a lawyer, but admitted she never passed a bar exam,
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  Speaker 7: prompting a watchdog group to call for an investigation. Trump
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  Speaker 7: says she was treated unfairly by the media.
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  Speaker 3: The White House says.
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  Speaker 7: though she is moving into another role, but he hasn't
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  Speaker 7: said what that role is. And with the midterms just
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  Speaker 7: 14 days away, the White House is once again without
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  Speaker 7: a press secretary.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, does he actually need a press secretary? Like,
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  Speaker 1: can't Trump lie for himself? Like, he's always in front
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  Speaker 1: of the cameras. Like, people always are running up on him.
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  Speaker 1: He's always doing interviews. Does he actually need a press secretary?
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  Speaker 1: He really don't need it. He's his own publicist. He's
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  Speaker 1: his own, yeah. Like, what does he need a press
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  Speaker 1: secretary for?
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  Speaker 7: I think, and then the last time he didn't have
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  Speaker 7: a press secretary, he had like a roving cabinet that
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  Speaker 7: would come in and sit there and answer questions.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's what we might see again.
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  Speaker 7: So not one person, but just different people coming up
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  Speaker 7: to the podium and answering questions.
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  Speaker 1: And none of his press secretary's voices are louder than his.
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  Speaker 1: Like the most of the time you hear about the
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  Speaker 1: press secretaries when they are in the news for, you know,
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  Speaker 1: F'ing up. Yeah. None of them are louder than him.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the point of him having a press secretary?
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  Speaker 7: Well, we will see how this plays out because right now,
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  Speaker 7: especially with the midterms coming up, I'm sure there's messages
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  Speaker 7: the White House wants to get out.
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  Speaker 3: But as you said, Trump, he's got the loudest megaphone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And a warning to anyone who has fallen behind on
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  Speaker 7: their student loans this morning. The Trump administration is reportedly
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  Speaker 7: getting ready to start taking money directly from people's paychecks.
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  Speaker 7: I keep saying this, but we are getting closer because
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  Speaker 7: this could begin as soon as November. Now, this doesn't
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  Speaker 7: apply to anyone with. apply to everyone with student loans,
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  Speaker 7: but for borrowers whose loans are in default, meaning they've
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  Speaker 7: gone long without making any payments, the government can begin
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  Speaker 7: collecting that debt. Under the federal rules, the government can
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  Speaker 7: take up to 15% of your check without going to court.
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  Speaker 7: It can also take your federal tax refund, withhold some
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  Speaker 7: of your.
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  Speaker 3: Social Security benefits.
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  Speaker 7: So if you already struggle to pay your bills, you
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  Speaker 7: could end up bringing even home less money. So pay
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  Speaker 7: attention to this because according to new reporting, the Education
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  Speaker 7: Department is working with the Treasury Department now to bring
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  Speaker 7: in private debt collectors. That's going to affect nearly 10
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  Speaker 7: million Americans who are already in default. The government must
• 8:50
  Speaker 7: send you a written warning before this happens. So pay
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  Speaker 7: attention to your mail if you've gotten something in the mail.
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  Speaker 7: But if you've fallen behind, don't ignore those notices. You
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  Speaker 7: can go to studentaid.gov, check your loan status, and find
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  Speaker 7: out what you can do before collections begin. That is
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  Speaker 7: set to begin in November.
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  Speaker 2: I'm honestly surprised they haven't done it a lot sooner.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is I remember when
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  Speaker 2: I got married, Gia had some student loans, and I
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  Speaker 2: was getting a tax refund. This was, what, 25 years ago?
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  Speaker 2: And I was excited about this tax refund. And it
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  Speaker 2: never came. And it never came because when I got married,
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  Speaker 2: her debt is now my debt. So they took that
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  Speaker 2: tax money and paid off her school loans. So I
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  Speaker 2: knew for a fact. I'm like, oh, yeah, they're not
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  Speaker 2: playing with it. So I'm really surprised they haven't tried
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  Speaker 2: to do this a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Did they let you know? They notified you or they
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  Speaker 3: just didn't?
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  Speaker 1: The money never came.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: So I called and asked where the money was. And
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  Speaker 2: they was like, you're married now and pretty much your
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  Speaker 2: debt is her debt. And we took the money to
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  Speaker 2: pay off her school loans.
• 9:43
  Speaker 7: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the money never came, gear never came. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it's even exchanged to me. I feel like it's balanced.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: And that's front page news. I'm just thinking, who's that
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  Speaker 1: brought you by?
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  Speaker 3: This is great news.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like everybody's, ooh, this guy's
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  Speaker 1: a jerk.
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  Speaker 11: It's spot on.
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  Speaker 7: a new study that's revealing why uh what women were
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  Speaker 7: really thinking before they walked down the aisle i think
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  Speaker 7: we all think we know but do we All right.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody else, get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 5: 800-585-1051.
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  Speaker 1: Call us up now. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chest. 800-585-1051.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club. Jamal,
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: what's up? Get it off your chest.
• 10:35
  Speaker 5: Congratulations to the Brewers. Jamal, what's happening with y'all, man?
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Congratulations on the Milwaukee Brewers going to the World Series. Yeah,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: congratulations to the Brewers.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy, man. I appreciate that.
• 10:45
  Speaker 5: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. The city going crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Going up for it. Okay, okay. What's up, brother?
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: Yes, what's up?
• 10:52
  Speaker 12: Why you over there looking like Sammy Sosa?
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: Damn!
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: God damn it. Why are you cooking you this early?
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: I'm so tired.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even give a damn what he's talking about. But,
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  Speaker 3: all right, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 12: I can't believe you got that light skinned on us.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's it.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, that's all I wanted to say.
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  Speaker 1: Show love.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to show love to the breakfast club
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  Speaker 3: this morning.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Man, waking up doing drive-by cooking is crazy. You just
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: wake up in the morning just to shoot at people.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all have a good morning. It's six in
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: the morning. It might be five-something in Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 3: What time is it?
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: Five in the morning in Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the same time.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: Hello, who's this?
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: This is Jay.
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  Speaker 12: How are you?
• 11:31
  Speaker 5: Good morning for the breakfast club. Jay, peace.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 13: Good morning.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Get off your chest.
• 11:34
  Speaker 12: This conversation, I want to talk to.
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  Speaker 5: My brother, Charlie.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: How are you doing, brother?
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: I'm good.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 12: Charlie, you remember they had the lieutenant governor that's supposed
• 11:44
  Speaker 12: to speak at the University of South Carolina.
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  Speaker 5: They shut it down because of her views.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Sir, I'm breaking up. Yeah, you have us on Bluetooth
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  Speaker 1: for speaking. Can you take us off?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, is it better now?
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 5: You remember that, right?
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  Speaker 12: Now, they got Waka Flocka that's supposed to be performing
• 11:59
  Speaker 12: at Claflin University. And my thing is to the president
• 12:03
  Speaker 12: of the university, Walker Flock is 100% behind Donald Trump's support,
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  Speaker 12: Donald Trump on his rally. And I don't understand what
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  Speaker 12: they're trying to roll back and all that Trump administration
• 12:15
  Speaker 12: has done to blacks. Why would y'all pay money to
• 12:18
  Speaker 12: the university from the university to Walker Flock to perform
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  Speaker 12: and he line up with every damn thing that Trump supports?
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  Speaker 12: I don't understand how the president of Krafton can allow that,
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  Speaker 12: and I don't understand how the students there can accept that.
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  Speaker 12: There's a whole lot of other artists that lined up
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  Speaker 12: with what we believe in, Waka Flocka. I don't agree
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  Speaker 12: with that, Chandler.
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  Speaker 1: I must have missed the first part. Are you saying
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  Speaker 1: Waka Flocka, he's performing at what, Homecoming or something?
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  Speaker 12: Waka Flocka's performing at Krafton Homecoming.
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  Speaker 1: Got you. Well, I'm sure if the students don't like that,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to make their voices heard. You know them
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: kids in Orangeburg don't got no problem protesting against something
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  Speaker 1: they don't like.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I agree.
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  Speaker 12: But my thing is, when we give the smoke to
• 12:59
  Speaker 12: the white, why can't we give it to the black?
• 13:01
  Speaker 12: The same way with my thing with JV, when we
• 13:03
  Speaker 12: was doing the boycott of Target. When Jay-Z did the
• 13:06
  Speaker 12: big money deal, no one said nothing. But in the
• 13:09
  Speaker 12: black neighborhood, we good to give certain people passes. We're
• 13:11
  Speaker 12: going to give all the energy. I'm 67.
• 13:14
  Speaker 13: I'm an activist.
• 13:14
  Speaker 12: And we're going to give all the energy. Let the
• 13:17
  Speaker 12: energy stay for all. Not give certain people an exception
• 13:20
  Speaker 12: or pass. That's not what it's about.
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: And you're saying that based off of, you said, the
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: lieutenant governor that was supposed to speak.
• 13:30
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 13:30
  Speaker 12: They shut it down.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.
• 13:32
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 13:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah, they totally shut it down.
• 13:34
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 13:35
  Speaker 12: And now it's the same with Walker. I know it's
• 13:37
  Speaker 12: two different universities, but Walker's 100% lined up with what
• 13:41
  Speaker 12: Donald Trump wants. They're on the trail, support him, everything.
• 13:44
  Speaker 12: And we know what Donald Trump stands for.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'm not weighing them
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: the same. I'm not weighing, you know, Lieutenant Governor with
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: a rapper. But I get what you're saying.
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: Okay. Love you guys.
• 13:55
  Speaker 12: See you every morning.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: Be blessed.
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: Appreciate you.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Get it off your chest.
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: 800-585-1051.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: If you need to vent, call us up right now.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Phone lines are wide open. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning. Ray, Ray, Ray.
• 14:08
  Speaker 12: Yo, Charlamagne.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Envy.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: What up?
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: Are we live?
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: This is your time to get it off your chest.
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: I got an indoor pool, an outdoor pool.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: We want to hear from you on The Breakfast Club.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: We can get on the phone right now. He'll tell
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: you what it is. Are we live? Hello, who's this?
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: Hello.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Hey, what's your name, bro?
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: My name is Chris. I'm from Detroit, but I relocated
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: to the DMV, what, nine years ago.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: But I just wanted to tell my wife, it's our
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: two-year anniversary. I've been listening to y'all for like 15
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: plus years. Y'all get, yeah, I went through a lot
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: of changes in my life mentally and, you know, physically
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: as well. But listening to you all, you, Charlamagne, and
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: then now Jess, Lauren, and Mimi, y'all just, y'all i'd
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: listen to it every day but i just want to
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: tell my wife janae dunn she is the best wife
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: in the whole world and she finalized she helped me
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: be the best man i can be and i'm sorry
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: i'm a little cold i'm walking my dog i'm shivering
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: but uh i just want to tell my wife i
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: can ask for a better wife than.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Her that's beautiful happy anniversary brother glad you feel that
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: way brother every man should feel like that about his wife.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you, she is the best thing
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: that ever happened to me. I lost my mother.
• 15:18
  Speaker 12: I had nobody.
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: I had my family, but I had no parents. And
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: I gave up on love. But when I found her, well,
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: we found each other. God brought us at the right
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: time in our life. And I was just making positive
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: changes because of the birth defects. I look at you
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: and think, well, she'll tell you. I listen to you faithfully,
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: but I don't want to hold up your time, but
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: my wife is the best thing in the whole wide world.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, if y'all could just do one thing, I've
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: been 15 years and we're trying to get cut back.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: We're trying to tell her happy anniversary for me.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: What's her name? What's her name? What's her name?
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Janae Dunn.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Janae Dunn. Happy anniversary, Janae Dunn, from your husband. Have
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: a good one, brother. He loves you. And always remember, brother,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: he who finds a wife finds a good thing and
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: obtains favor from the Lord. Proverbs 18, 22. All right.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Now we got the latest with Lauren coming up.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: What's up, Lo?
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: Good morning, y'all. We do have the latest coming up.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Hey, Jess. Big Wayne. What's happening? BBL. Big Boss. Hello.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Top Dog Lo.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: We do got the latest coming up.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: What's happening? So yesterday. Good morning.
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: Oh, God.
• 16:18
  Speaker 10: Boy shut up please thank you guys I said.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Good morning to you keep going.
• 16:25
  Speaker 10: We do have the latest coming up y'all so yesterday
• 16:27
  Speaker 10: Cardi B made NPR Tiny Desk Music History and there's
• 16:31
  Speaker 10: another big artist who may be reportedly securing his legacy
• 16:34
  Speaker 10: in a different way on a big stage so we're
• 16:36
  Speaker 10: gonna get into it we're gonna get further securing we'll
• 16:38
  Speaker 10: get into.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: It alright it's the Breakfast Club good morning on the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: breakfast club talk.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: To me.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: So yesterday, guys, well, first of all, good morning again.
• 17:08
  Speaker 10: Yesterday, Cardi B's Tiny Desk premiered at noon.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: We told you guys that that would be happening. And
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: it was a big one.
• 17:15
  Speaker 10: The Tiny Desk website says it's rare that they have
• 17:18
  Speaker 10: to turn people away. But when the word got out
• 17:20
  Speaker 10: that Cardi B would be doing the NPR Tiny Desk
• 17:22
  Speaker 10: at the music office, they drew one of the biggest
• 17:24
  Speaker 10: crowds they'd ever seen there.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: So she did a few different songs. Hello, Hello.
• 17:29
  Speaker 10: Every time man of your word be careful aha bodak
• 17:33
  Speaker 10: yellow and i like it let's take a listen to
• 17:35
  Speaker 10: uh every time I.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Let you have my baby. How come you ain't with him?
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I'm somewhere on the market coast standing somewhere naked. You're
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: somewhere on the water. This must be pregnant. Yeah, so
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: she had that. I love how that band, like, yo,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: they make everybody sound good. Wait, is it her band
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: or that's like the Tiny Desk band?
• 17:54
  Speaker 10: It switches depending on the artist. So I don't know
• 17:56
  Speaker 10: if she got the band together or the producers at
• 17:58
  Speaker 10: Tiny Desk got the band together. But I did see
• 18:00
  Speaker 10: Adam Blackstone play. And a background there as well, too.
• 18:02
  Speaker 10: And then she had two singers with her as well.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I wish she would have did her hits just from
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: like Evasion of Privacy.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Only?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Evasion of Privacy. Yeah, only. I mean, I love all
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: her new stuff, but it's just, it's so new.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that new stuff was rocking. Yeah, it was.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: When she started off with Hello.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: That was hard.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I'm so proud of Cardi, man. I love Cardi seeing,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: just keep, just taking things to the next level. Like,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I'm really genuinely happy from Cardi. Like, we've seen her
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: from the start.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:30
  Speaker 10: And you know what too um so remember at her
• 18:32
  Speaker 10: concert we all went she started off with the hello
• 18:34
  Speaker 10: as well but like for some reason with this tiny
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: desk you could see like uh the the.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Breath control and all that the performance of it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 10: It was just i don't know it's just a lot
• 18:42
  Speaker 10: you could see it a lot more um even though
• 18:44
  Speaker 10: the tour performance was fire too but i don't know
• 18:46
  Speaker 10: i was watching i'm like dang cardi is really like
• 18:49
  Speaker 10: it's like precision.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Now i'm just used to artists um doing their older
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: stuff on um Tiny Das, even though she's not an
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: older artist, but yeah. She did do Be Careful. Let's
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: take a listen to that. She sound good, too.
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, she sound good.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: She did a mix of all the classics, though. She
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: did I Like It Like That. She did Bodak Yellow.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I Like It Like That was newer.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I Like It Like That was from Invasion of Prophecy.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Jess didn't get to watch it, though.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, it was.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I Like It Like That was from Invasion
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of Prophecy. So was Bodak Yellow.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: She mixed it up.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: She did all the classics. She only got two albums.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. She did all the classics from
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: both albums. Yes, yes.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so congratulations to Cardi.
• 19:39
  Speaker 10: Did you guys know that the NPR Tiny Desk, that
• 19:41
  Speaker 10: they are a nonprofit, that you can actually go and support, fundraise?
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: I saw yesterday, because Cardi, her Tiny Desk hit over
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: a million views in less than 24 hours. but there
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: was also a fundraising component there too because they do
• 19:52
  Speaker 10: everything independently now oh my.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: God it is it is on the album it is
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: on invasion of privacy.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Y'all are you high no.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I'm not high yo i did not know.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: That and yes npr is a non-profit I'm letting people know, though.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: National Public Radio.
• 20:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so the NPR Tiny Desk rep asked us to
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: let people know that because they do need the support.
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: So all of the production and the things that you
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: guys see, they put together within.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Their own company.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: So where can people donate?
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: People can donate on their website. They have a donation page.
• 20:18
  Speaker 10: It is npr.org backslash donations. And you can donate various
• 20:23
  Speaker 10: ways there.
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: Yes. Yes.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: All right, now shifting gears two stages.
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: Yesterday or late last night, there was a report that
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: came out via Puck. And this report, we've been talking
• 20:34
  Speaker 10: a lot about the Super Bowl, was that Jay-Z is
• 20:37
  Speaker 10: going to be doing the Super Bowl.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Now, they don't say who their sources are.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Allegedly.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Allegedly. It is very alleged.
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: It is very, like, reportedly. We don't even know who
• 20:44
  Speaker 10: the sources are, but they say that they've spoken to
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: several different sources who say that Jay-Z has picked himself
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: for the Super Bowl. Now, you guys remember the conversation
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: we had. It was Miley Cyrus that was in the running.
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: It was Justin Bieber. Different people that people were having
• 20:58
  Speaker 10: conversations about.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: We said Stevie Wonder.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I said Jay.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Nobody said Stevie Wonder, like, officially, y'all.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: I said it should have been Jay. No, we said that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 10: We said Stevie Wonder. We also said Jay-Z because we
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: were talking about... Everything that he's been doing, celebrating the
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: 30 year anniversary of his move out in 25 years
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: as well.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: So in this article, they mentioned that as well, too.
• 21:16
  Speaker 10: They also mentioned the fact that at this point, because
• 21:19
  Speaker 10: Jay-Z has, you know, what that five year deal that
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: they just redid with the NFL, that this could be
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: something that kind of like solidifies like his legacy with that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 10: Certain sector of his life, just the NFL partnership of
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: his life.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Just makes sense.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: 30 years of his first album, 25 years of Blueprint,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: everything that Jay's been doing. This is the perfect rollout.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: This is the practice for the Super Bowl to me.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: So it just makes sense to me.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it does make sense because the reality is
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: there hasn't been too many bigger stories in music this
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: year than Jay-Z. Good or bad, y'all can't stop talking
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: about him. And like you just said, he's celebrating 30
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: years of his career, right? Because his first album, Reasonable Doubt,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: 30 years old. Blueprint's 25 years old. 10 years of
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: 4 for 4. It's just 30 years of his career period. So,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, why not? It does make sense. The only
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: thing I don't like is it's going to make all
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the digital D-heads think they were right when they said, oh,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: they can't find anybody for the Super Bowl. Nobody wants
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to do it, which we know was Cap.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Who cares about the digital D-heads? Jay-Z deserves to do it.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: So I thought he should have did it a long
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: time ago, honestly. But yes, I'm excited.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Now would be the right time.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's feel right right now. With the year that
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: he had, all the stuff that he doing.
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: Yeah, in the article, the reporter is saying that this
• 22:25
  Speaker 10: alleged announcement of Jay-Z during the Super Bowl may happen
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: this weekend when he kicks off his shows in Los
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: Angeles at the SoFi Stadium.
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: On Friday.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll be paying attention to see if that happens.
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: Now, we do have what we, we put together some
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: songs because we're thinking about set lists.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Why do you do this?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: We were thinking about set lists. She love doing it, yo.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: She want to be a young guru so bad.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: She love being a little DJ, yo.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Y'all know he from Delaware.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Y'all know he from Delaware.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: You was at the Reasonable Doubt show in Delaware. Don't
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you share about Delaware?
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Guru.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, yo, I thought. Guru has a man that knows.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: DJ Envy.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: My president DJ.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: She asked me for some money.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Like, what do you mean?
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I go to the unks when I use my resources.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: We can only go through five of them, six of them.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: But he has so many hits. These are some of
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the ones I would love to see.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Of course. Of course.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, of course.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Gotta do this. You don't think so? I want to
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: love you? I don't want this. I'm a hustler, baby.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I don't want this on the Super Bowl. No. It's
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: a crossover record.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I'm a hustler, baby.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Bring out Pharrell. Of course he's going to do that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: You got to do this.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Is Kanye going to come on that stage? He might.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: That would be huge, Charlamagne. You can roll your eyes
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: all you want. That would be huge.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm Jewish on this. Yeah, I don't think you're going
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: to see it. I could be. That would be huge.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm good with yes, you know, absolutely. Absolutely. A hundred percent. Okay.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Sure I do. I'm from the streets with her. Then
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you know you're going to get this. Yeah. I don't
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: want this either. You know you're going to get this.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Rihanna's coming out.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I don't want no commercial over the Super Bowl.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: It's a good NFL tune, y'all. It gets you hyped
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: up for the second half of the game.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Those are the.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Predictable mainstream commercial hits. Give me the Dynasty intro. Give
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: me Can I Live.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: No, that's too New York.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: No, yo, that's too New York.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: He's not from New York and he wants those records.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I knew you were going to say
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Can I Live, though.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. Kendrick showed us that you can
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: take those kind of risks at the Super Bowl.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I want that. But he can go through the records fast, though.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: He can do those records.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: He can do Can't Knock the Hustle, Bring Out Mary.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Then he can do Can I Live. He can do
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: some of those in and out.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I just don't want mainstream commercial hof at the Super Bowl.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Respectfully, listen. I'll probably be mad at me when I
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: say this, but Kendrick, it was different with Kendrick because
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Kendrick was like, he had just won a beef. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: we wanted to all tune in to see what he
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: was going to say, whether you was a genuine Kendrick
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: fan or not, who you just wanted to see what
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: the beef was. We wanted to see if he was going, like,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: really come at Drake, honestly. A lot of people was
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: waiting to see that. So we was listening to every word.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Some songs I didn't know, but I was still listening.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: That's what you were listening for.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Yo, I just said some of us, sweetheart.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? So that's different.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: So what's the difference with the Jay-Z thing? Some of us.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: He ain't getting no beef. You know what I'm saying?
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: We're not listening for that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: It's too Jay-Z coded.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: For who?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: For like y'all, like you and Envy and like all that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I didn't know none of Bad Bunny records, but I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: enjoyed that performance. I'll give you a bad example. Lauren
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: didn't know nothing about Reasonable Doubt, but you enjoyed that
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: night at Yankee Stadium. That's not true.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: You and Mimi were so confused.
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: You and Mimi were so confused.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Time out, time out, time out. That moment at Yankee
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Stadium when he did Dead President and Oz came out.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Come on, man. Imagine he do that at the Super Bowl.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Then go into Nas. Ooh, now we talking now.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: If I ruled the world, I could see Nas going
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: into that from there.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: This is no conversation.
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: No, because some of it is like, he has to
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: balance the very.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Why? Because the Super Bowl stage is the Super Bowl stage.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: You don't know none of them records, and nor do
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you care.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Neither do we know them or not.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Bad Bunny. He ain't got a balance.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: We didn't know Bad Bunny, but the songs that Bad
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Bunny did were big songs.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. I have no idea.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Y'all act like y'all don't know we're going on the
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl. The only song I know is where they are.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: That's the only one I know.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: It's not for you.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: But they were big songs.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Because it's a performance.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: How are y'all comparing the Jay-Z concert to the Super Bowl?
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: The Super Bowl is not Jay-Z concert.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is. That's what the halftime show is, a concert,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a 15-minute concert.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: But they're not only there for that. It's a football game, Goofy.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Well, right.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: The halftime show be ranking higher than the actual game.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: People tune in just to watch the show.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: You got it, bro. You got it.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I know I do.
• 26:49
  Speaker 10: This is why Jay-Z is a good pick because of
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: the conversation that is going to spark leading up in
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: after work.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Hopefully this weekend we get that announcement.
• 26:56
  Speaker 10: According to Puck, it's happening this weekend in L.A., so
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: we'll keep you guys tuned in if that happens.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: But this was the latest.
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• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And side note, I don't want to hear Hard Knock Life.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: Me neither.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear that.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you. I don't want none of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the commercial mainstream records. He's going to do Empire State, though.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: He's going to do Empire State. He's going to do that.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I don't need that either. He's got to do that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: That's his only number one record. He's got to do that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: You say what you don't want to hear, but we
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: can't say what we.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Don't want to hear. I'm not saying y'all can't. We're
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: having a discussion.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: But I don't want to hear him by his face.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Turn the saxophone off.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Front page news is next. Can I hear some home joint, please? Please,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: play some home joint. That's the breakfast of the morning.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Give me Can I Live at the Super Bowl.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Now we talking. That'd be crazy. Okay, I don't want
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: no commercial Jay-Z at the Super Bowl. You do live
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: band or you do DJ? I want B-Sides whole with
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the soup. You're not going to get all that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: You get a little bit. You're not getting all that, though.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Give me B-Sides whole with the soup.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Nah, you're going to get Run This Town. You're going
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: to get Empire State. You might get a couple B-Sides.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want those.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: But you're going to get those.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Because there's a lot of whole fans out there.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: All right. Morning, everybody.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: We are The Breakfast Club. Sorry we jumped into your time.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So I'll just tell everybody the NBA starts tonight.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: That's the only sports. And what's the commanders lost last night?
• 28:13
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And the Atlanta Dream won. And Andrew Reese balled out
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: 30 points.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: 30 points, like 16 rebounds.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: She had 30 blocks.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: 30, 16.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Two steals. Yes, there you go. Yeah, she killed it
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: last night. One steal.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: And shout out to the Brewers.
• 28:24
  Speaker 14: Okay.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: All right, good morning, guys.
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: Front Page News is sponsored by Morgan & Morgan, America's
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: largest injury law firm. But we start this hour in
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: Mississippi where the state's attorney general says a police officer
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: was justified in shooting that one-year-old baby.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: So I'm talking about Cohen Wiley.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: He was killed back in June when police officers were
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: responding to a shoplifting call at Walmart. Officers accused Cohen's
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: mother and a friend of hers from stealing diapers. in
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: the baby clothing. The women got into the car. Do
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: you guys remember this story?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I don't. No.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: The women got into the car and police said the
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: driver headed toward the officers and that's when the officer
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: opened fire.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. I do.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: And injuring the driver. The family attorney, Ben Crump, told
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: me that the police account of this doesn't add up.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Let's listen.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: Throughout independent autopsy and objective evidence that baby Corwin Wiley
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: was shot From the side right window of the car,
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: the bullet going from right to left, this one-year-old infant child.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: And we know, Mimi, that he shot from the right side.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: The officer can't be in harm's way. if he shot
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: from the right side.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And wasn't, didn't this, help me jog my memory. This was,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: this came from like theft, right? Them stealing from Walmart.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: And then they drew guns because they were stealing.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I've never heard of.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: That going that far. It never found anything. And the
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: two women involved in this have never been charged with.
• 29:59
  Speaker 11: A crime, Jess.
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  Speaker 3: But even if they were stealing, when did it get
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: that serious that you got to shoot? You got to
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: shoot at the people's feet. Shoot at the car with.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: The baby in there.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: So the Mississippi Attorney General, her name is Lynn Finch,
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: announced earlier this week that the officers were justified. in
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: their use of deadly force.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: Wow.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: Her office did not explain how it reached that decision.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Ben Crump and his team, they are now calling for
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: the body camera footage to be released and they want
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: that video made public.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: They killed a baby. So where was this? This was
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: in Mississippi.
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: I think it's called Syntopia, something like that, Mississippi.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Well, they were trying to say that she was driving
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: in the direction of the officer. That's why they shot.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: At the car. I thought they were trying to get
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: away and.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the officer's story. I'm not saying that
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that's what happened. I'm saying that's what the officer said,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: that she was driving in the direction of the officers
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: and almost hit one. That's why they opened fire on
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the car. That's what the officer said.
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: And so in the question that I asked Attorney Crump,
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: he was saying that that was impossible.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: The car was going the other way.
• 31:03
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: That's what I said. I heard that the car was
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: trying to get away.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: So.
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: And staying with police accountability really quick. Former Dallas police
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: officer who shot and killed an unarmed black man in
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: his own apartment is now out of prison.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: You guys remember Amber Geiger?
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: She was released on Friday.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Now, you remember this story, though, Char.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: She served seven out of 10 years for killing 26-year-old
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: Botham John. Back in 2018, John was sitting in his
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: apartment eating ice cream, watching TV when Geiger walked into
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: his apartment and Uh, she said that he was sitting
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: in her house. She mistakenly entered the apartment. Uh, Geiger
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: told the jury that he was an intruder field field
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: feared for her life.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: But it was John's apartment.
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: And he was unarmed. Anyway, she is now out of
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: prison after serving seven years in prison.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Botham's family is upset, of course.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: Their attorney says that they wanted her to serve her
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: full sentence, but they're even more upset that she got
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: 10 years to begin with.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is the epitome of white privilege.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: The guy she killed was black?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I didn't hear about this case.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't remember this. And just the fact
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: when you hear her attorney say things like she's been remorseful,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: she stayed remorseful, she's still remorseful. What that got to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: do with the crime that she committed?
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, before we get out of here, switching gears
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: really quick, a new study by UCLA found that two
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: in five women settled the day they got married. The
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: researchers followed 232 newlywed couples. They followed them for four
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: years and found that nearly 40% of women.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: They had doubts before saying, I do. And here's the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: interesting part.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: 19% of those women, they ended up in divorce compared
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: to just eight people or 8% of those people who
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: did not have those doubts.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: So that's more than double.
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: Researchers say having doubts doesn't necessarily mean that your marriage
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: won't last, but it could be a warning sign. So fellas,
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: what they're wanting to know is how do you feel
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: if your wife was having second thoughts? Would you still
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: want to walk down the.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Aisle with her?
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: And ladies, did you have doubts and still get married?
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 33:15
  Speaker 15: Envy?
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: No.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? If my wife had doubts,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that to happen. Like, no.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, think about it. Let's just think about
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: it here, right? Marriage is a big step. You're not
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: just boyfriend and girlfriend anymore. Everybody gets... Well, I can't
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: say everybody. I can't speak for everybody. But you think
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: about how your life is about to change.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:35
  Speaker 10: Doubt.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Are we confusing doubt with nervousness and worry? I mean,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: this is a big part of your life. It's like
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: having a baby.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Well, a little bit.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: But it's a big step. It's like you get nervous.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: You get cold feet. And then you go through with it.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I don't really feel like it's a big deal to
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: have doubts.
• 33:52
  Speaker 13: I mean.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Seriously, if you wouldn't have.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Married Gia, if she had doubts, we wouldn't have got married.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: If she had doubts when we were walking down the altar, no,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: we wouldn't have got married.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: There's no point in getting married if you have doubts.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're saying like on the wedding day?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Or even before.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Like, if you have doubts, we're not getting married. Yeah,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: we're not getting married.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: No. If you have any doubt that this is not
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the person that you want to marry, you probably shouldn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: marry that person.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: Correct.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: If she had a doubt that she wanted to be
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: with me.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I get what Jess is saying. Jess is talking about
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: if you have just natural anxiety. Yes, that makes sense.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: If I'm doubting my partner, if I'm doubting this is
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: where I want to be, if I'm having second.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: It's a completely different conversation. There is no way, nah.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And that's either side.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to put her through that and I
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: wouldn't want to put myself through that if we had
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a doubt.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Having anxiety about getting married is probably normal. Like, oh
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: my God, I'm about to get married. You know what
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? I'm committing myself to this person for the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: rest of my life. We're going to have kids. We're
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: going to have a family. Am I going to be
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: able to be a great father? Am I going to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: be a great husband? That's different than... I don't know
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: if this is the person I want to marry.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: But even all the stuff that you were saying, I
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: was excited for all the things that you said.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I was excited to.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Live my life with somebody. That's good anxiety. Yeah, it
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: wasn't like I was like, oh, this is going to
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: be a tough one. This is a big, nah, not.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: That at all. Doubt to me is like, I don't
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: know if I want to marry this person. And if
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you feel that way, don't get married.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Don't get married.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: All right, y'all.
• 35:13
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• 35:21
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Now, when we come back, who's joining us, Charlemagne?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Haviv Gurr. OK, he's an Israeli journalist and host of
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the Ask Habib Anything podcast. OK, so we'll be talking
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: to him when we come back. All right. Don't move.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: Morning, everybody.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Charlemagne the guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Lon LaRose
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: is here as well.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: So is Mimi.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: And we got a special guest in the building. Haviv
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Reddick Gurr.
• 35:47
  Speaker 11: That was well done.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: That was not very well done.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 11: But A for effort.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Well, good morning. Thank you. How are you feeling this morning?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I run this credential down. He's an Israeli journalist, political analyst, commentator,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: senior analyst at the Times of Israel, and Middle East
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: analyst at the Free Press.
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah, now I'm tired.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Your work focuses on Israeli politics, regional affairs, Jewish identity,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and relations between Israel and the Jewish diaspora. Yeah.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: Write about all the stuff happening to Jews, both now
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: and in the past. And my side hustle is teaching
• 36:22
  Speaker 11: history and all kinds of informal education. So, yeah, I'm
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: that kind of guy. History nerd.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I watch a lot of your stuff. Well,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I did watch a lot of your stuff, knowing that
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you was coming up here. And it made me wonder, right?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of things. But I guess I'll start with,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: can two people have legitimate historical claims to the same
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: land without one people suffering being treated as more important?
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: But those are two different questions. So can two people
• 36:49
  Speaker 11: have a claim to a place? Can two people have
• 36:51
  Speaker 11: a story? And somehow those stories overlap and contradict and conflict.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 36:56
  Speaker 11: And not only that, we all live in stories. All
• 36:59
  Speaker 11: we are is stories we tell about ourselves. And those
• 37:03
  Speaker 11: stories are really important. You know, you go to university
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: and they say to you, well, it's all just narratives
• 37:08
  Speaker 11: and we can deconstruct the narratives. That's a very shallow
• 37:10
  Speaker 11: way of understanding it. We will live in a story.
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: And if you take apart somebody's story, They'll build a
• 37:15
  Speaker 11: new story.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: It'll be the real history or it's not.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: We only know how to live in a story of ourselves.
• 37:20
  Speaker 11: And you can absolutely have two peoples. In fact, probably
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: in a great many conflicts in the world, when you
• 37:26
  Speaker 11: dig deep into the story of what the people think
• 37:28
  Speaker 11: is happening to them, what they think is going to
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: happen to them, where they think they come from, you
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: suddenly open a whole new window into what the conflict means,
• 37:36
  Speaker 11: why it's the way it is, why it's hard to solve.
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: And when those stories conflict and when those stories contradict,
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: you get real conflict. And you can't understand the conflict.
• 37:47
  Speaker 11: It doesn't matter which side you take. You can't understand
• 37:50
  Speaker 11: what the people in the conflict actually think is happening
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: to them, why they're responding the way they're responding, if
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: you don't know their stories. So, absolutely. I think that's
• 37:58
  Speaker 11: the heart of what's going on right now. There are
• 38:00
  Speaker 11: these two stories, and the two stories conflict. And if
• 38:06
  Speaker 11: you can't find a path to settle the needs of
• 38:10
  Speaker 11: both of these stories, the problem... The problem with talking
• 38:14
  Speaker 11: this way is it's not just story. The stories are real.
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: The stories are powerful. The stories are true. It's not
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: like the Jews have 10,000 data points over 140 years
• 38:26
  Speaker 11: proving their story. And the Palestinians have 10,000 data points
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: proving their story. And so you've got to find a
• 38:33
  Speaker 11: way that respects those stories. What I see too much
• 38:36
  Speaker 11: in the U.S., in the activist space, in journalism, even
• 38:39
  Speaker 11: in academia that should know better, is people who pick
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: one of the stories, and all the history that doesn't
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: fit that story gets erased. And then they feel very righteous,
• 38:49
  Speaker 11: but they're not doing anything to help anybody on the ground.
• 38:52
  Speaker 11: I don't know if that was too abstract, but that's
• 38:55
  Speaker 11: the core problem.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: So my question is, so the term free Palestine, so
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: why is the term free Palestine, I guess, so bad
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: in the Jewish community?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 39:05
  Speaker 11: Everything depends what you mean. It's a little bit like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 11: you know, I... I went to middle school and high
• 39:11
  Speaker 11: school in the States. I got this English, but I've
• 39:13
  Speaker 11: never lived as an adult in America. So if I
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: step into American culture wars, I'm a complete stranger and
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: I don't know what I'm doing. But there's a big
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: debate or not a debate. There's a big problem in
• 39:23
  Speaker 11: America if you say all lives matter. The problem isn't
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: that you don't think that all lives matter. Everybody thinks
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: all lives matter. The problem is that it's part of
• 39:29
  Speaker 11: a discourse. that's trying to say something to another statement
• 39:32
  Speaker 11: that's trying.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: To, right?
• 39:34
  Speaker 11: It's not about what the words say. It's about what
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: you mean. And the Jewish community, when someone says free Palestine,
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: here's the Jews of Israel, who are the last living
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: Jews in the Eastern Hemisphere, after the entire Arab world
• 39:45
  Speaker 11: and Europe all emptied of Jews. through mass expulsion, ethnic cleansing, genocide, pogrom, etc.,
• 39:51
  Speaker 11: that that shouldn't exist. And they're the last living Jews. Now,
• 39:56
  Speaker 11: some people, when they say free Palestine, what they mean
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: is everyone should be happy and free everywhere in the world,
• 40:01
  Speaker 11: and there should be no borders, and no ethnic nation-states,
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: and no tyrannies, and everybody should be happy and free.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: It's a call for human rights.
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: And if that's what you're saying, fantastic. On the ground,
• 40:14
  Speaker 11: when Hamas says free Palestine... It means destroy this group
• 40:18
  Speaker 11: of Jews who are the last living Jews in the
• 40:19
  Speaker 11: Eastern Hemisphere. And to an Israeli, and the American Jews
• 40:22
  Speaker 11: who talk to Israelis tend to take this view of it,
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: it means what the people on the ground say it means.
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: It doesn't mean what a progressive activist at Columbia thinks
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: it means. And so it is possible to say free
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: Palestine and mean something perfectly anodyne and great, like just fine.
• 40:38
  Speaker 11: It's also possible to say it and mean basically a
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: genocidal impulse against the Israelis. And now I have to
• 40:44
  Speaker 11: figure out which one you mean. So it's an exhausting wordplay.
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: I don't take it too seriously. I don't get insulted
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: when people say things. I also don't care about it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: I want to know in plain language. Leave aside all the,
• 40:57
  Speaker 11: what do you actually want to see?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: You know, the crazy thing about that is education, right?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Out of everybody I asked that question to, right? You're
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: the only one that detailed and answered in that way.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I told you the same exact thing. We had a
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: whole conversation about the meaning of the Free Palestine. I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: told you that some people use it as a call
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: for human rights and self-determination, and some people, when they
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: hear it, they feel like somebody's calling for the elimination
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: of Israel.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Most of the time when you hear it, people talk
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: about it as the elimination of Israel, right?
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say it most of the time.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: A lot of times when people say it, that's what
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: it's said to say. I disagree with that.
• 41:34
  Speaker 11: I think one of the problems the pro-Palestine movement has
• 41:37
  Speaker 11: is that the activist core means the bad version. And
• 41:41
  Speaker 11: a lot of really decent people who are just mobilized
• 41:45
  Speaker 11: to the cause because they saw terrible suffering on their
• 41:47
  Speaker 11: phones only even can imagine the good version. But if
• 41:51
  Speaker 11: the activist core, the people who will act politically using
• 41:55
  Speaker 11: that love of those decent people to act politically often
• 41:59
  Speaker 11: really do talk about how, I mean, to the point
• 42:02
  Speaker 11: where you get these like Palestinian poets and activists and
• 42:06
  Speaker 11: professors who just talk about all the Jews leaving. You
• 42:09
  Speaker 11: know what it's called when you want millions of people
• 42:11
  Speaker 11: who have their own culture, their own society, two million schoolchildren,
• 42:14
  Speaker 11: their own language, and they all.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Have to leave?
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: You know what that's called?
• 42:18
  Speaker 11: And that's considered a legitimate position to hold in present-day
• 42:21
  Speaker 11: Western American academia.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: It's called what? Ethnic cleansing?
• 42:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's ethnic cleansing at least. And if you're willing
• 42:27
  Speaker 11: to do it violently, it's more.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: That's what pro-Palestinian people say, though. That's their whole argument.
• 42:31
  Speaker 11: That's what a lot of the activist core just say
• 42:34
  Speaker 11: out loud and what these marchers down the streets of
• 42:36
  Speaker 11: New York are screaming. And then the genuinely, totally decent
• 42:41
  Speaker 11: people who are like, I just want the Palestinians to
• 42:44
  Speaker 11: be okay. Like, they're living under military rule. Like, this
• 42:46
  Speaker 11: is not, they mean that, but the activist core will
• 42:49
  Speaker 11: use their, to go to bad places. And this is
• 42:53
  Speaker 11: not a small point. This is not a moral debate,
• 42:55
  Speaker 11: what we're having here. This is not like, oh, you
• 42:57
  Speaker 11: should be good and not bad. If you come to
• 43:00
  Speaker 11: the Israelis and you tell the Israelis, free Palestine, meaning
• 43:04
  Speaker 11: you all need to die, you haven't, done damage to
• 43:07
  Speaker 11: the Israelis. You convince the Israelis they can't give an
• 43:09
  Speaker 11: inch to the Palestinians. In other words, the harm you've
• 43:12
  Speaker 11: done by taking that radical view on Israel is to Palestinians.
• 43:17
  Speaker 11: Because then the Israelis are not moving. We have polls
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: on this, tragic, awful polls of Israelis and Palestinians, where 90%,
• 43:23
  Speaker 11: there was this huge poll conducted by Palestinian pollsters of
• 43:27
  Speaker 11: Palestinians and Israeli pollsters of Israelis through universities, very, very
• 43:31
  Speaker 11: serious people. The guy who polled the Palestinians was the
• 43:33
  Speaker 11: guy Gallup uses to poll Palestinians. And this was last year,
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: and one of the questions they asked was, what do
• 43:38
  Speaker 11: you think the other side wants to do to you?
• 43:41
  Speaker 11: And there were a bunch of options. I don't know what,
• 43:43
  Speaker 11: two states, coexistence, and then worse things. And one of
• 43:46
  Speaker 11: them was eliminate you. 90% of Israeli Jews and 90%
• 43:51
  Speaker 11: of Palestinians picked that option for what the other side
• 43:54
  Speaker 11: wants to do to me. Israelis and Americans are not
• 43:58
  Speaker 11: part of the story. Israelis and Palestinians are immune to
• 44:01
  Speaker 11: foreign pressure because they genuinely believe that that the other
• 44:05
  Speaker 11: side wants to. You can't moralize at Palestinians to get
• 44:09
  Speaker 11: them to stop committing a terror attack. You can't moralize
• 44:12
  Speaker 11: at the Israelis to get them to disarm their army
• 44:14
  Speaker 11: because the other side is coming to murder my kids.
• 44:17
  Speaker 11: And that's deep progressives on both sides. Believe this about
• 44:21
  Speaker 11: the other side.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: The problem I be having is the language, right? Like
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: you said, Israelis. Shouldn't you be specific and say the
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Israeli government led by Bibi Netanyahu? When you're talking about Palestinians,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: shouldn't you say Hamas as opposed to saying palestinians versus
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: israel's israelis.
• 44:37
  Speaker 11: You absolutely have to distinguish in the case of this
• 44:39
  Speaker 11: poll the tragedy of this poll is that that's what
• 44:42
  Speaker 11: the ordinary people think that the other side's really coming
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: to eliminate them and by the way they they can
• 44:48
  Speaker 11: they got all the data points to prove it there's
• 44:50
  Speaker 11: infinite quotes and you know um hamas still promises more
• 44:54
  Speaker 11: october 7th today and for all time until israel's all
• 44:57
  Speaker 11: gone and it and and that Those statements from Hamas
• 45:00
  Speaker 11: make the news in Israel. They don't make the news
• 45:01
  Speaker 11: in America. So I'm like, Hamas wants to kill us all.
• 45:04
  Speaker 11: And an American will say to me, relax. Like, what
• 45:06
  Speaker 11: are you crazy? I'm like, no, but actually in my
• 45:08
  Speaker 11: news cycle, that's front and center. And we're all in
• 45:11
  Speaker 11: different algorithms, so you don't see it. In terms of
• 45:14
  Speaker 11: the distinctions, absolutely. Absolutely. I think we're led by the
• 45:18
  Speaker 11: worst government that has ever led Israel in.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: The history of Israel. Now I can talk to you.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: And why do you think that?
• 45:26
  Speaker 11: It's catastrophically incompetent. Let's imagine, all right? You have to
• 45:31
  Speaker 11: go to a war that's going to be fought in
• 45:33
  Speaker 11: a civilian space. And that happens quite often in modern times.
• 45:38
  Speaker 11: And the Americans had to do it. Many, many armies
• 45:40
  Speaker 11: have to do it. And there's going to be a
• 45:42
  Speaker 11: lot of destruction. And let's imagine that it's a completely
• 45:45
  Speaker 11: legitimate war. You can argue whether it's a legitimate war,
• 45:47
  Speaker 11: but let's imagine it is. If you're going to cause
• 45:49
  Speaker 11: that much destruction, shouldn't you tell a story of the
• 45:53
  Speaker 11: war that explains what you want from it? In other words,
• 45:57
  Speaker 11: is the Gaza War.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: denazification.
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: America burned cities to the ground. Japan, even worse. The
• 46:05
  Speaker 11: bombing of Dresden, the Hiroshima bomb, burned cities to the ground.
• 46:09
  Speaker 11: The goal, by the way, generals in the Pacific Command,
• 46:13
  Speaker 11: the American generals of the Pacific Command talked openly, you
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: could go look this up, these quotes, about exterminating the
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: last of the Japanese from the earth because there are
• 46:20
  Speaker 11: people that can never be trusted. But the actual policy
• 46:23
  Speaker 11: goal was to rebuild a free, happy, safe, and non-confrontational,
• 46:28
  Speaker 11: non-aggressive Japan and Germany. And America then invested billions in
• 46:33
  Speaker 11: the Marshall Plan. So it's a terrible war. That's what
• 46:36
  Speaker 11: it takes to pull the kind of regime that the
• 46:40
  Speaker 11: Nazis represent, the kind of ideology that the extremists around
• 46:43
  Speaker 11: Japan at the time represent. That's what it takes to
• 46:45
  Speaker 11: literally rip them out of Japanese society and politics. But
• 46:49
  Speaker 11: the goal afterwards is a new day. A new dawn,
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: a new freedom, a new prosperity. This is an Israeli
• 46:55
  Speaker 11: government that had to go through this kind of terrible war. Now,
• 46:57
  Speaker 11: you can argue it went over, it went here, it
• 46:59
  Speaker 11: went there. But this was not going to be a
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: gentle war, even if it was fought exactly the way
• 47:03
  Speaker 11: every progressive.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Hopes it was fought.
• 47:05
  Speaker 11: It was still going to hurt civilians tremendously.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's war.
• 47:08
  Speaker 11: That's war, especially a war in a densely populated... Tell
• 47:11
  Speaker 11: the freaking story. Talk about how we need Hamas out.
• 47:14
  Speaker 11: We need Hamas gone. Hamas will never stop these wars.
• 47:17
  Speaker 11: It will never not come for our kids. And when
• 47:19
  Speaker 11: Hamas is out, Gaza is born into a new day.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: It'll be big. It'll be beautiful.
• 47:24
  Speaker 11: Gaza has natural gas off the coast. Gaza could be
• 47:27
  Speaker 11: an emirate.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: That'll never be an excuse for 20,000 kids being killed.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Over 20,000.
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: I'm not talking about that at all. First of all,
• 47:34
  Speaker 11: I don't know what excuses means. I don't excuse anything.
• 47:38
  Speaker 11: There's no justification. It wouldn't justify anything. If you fight
• 47:43
  Speaker 11: a war and in that course of that war you
• 47:45
  Speaker 11: commit a crime, the fact that the goal of the
• 47:47
  Speaker 11: war is a good, legitimate goal is not justification for
• 47:50
  Speaker 11: committing a crime during the war. But my government refused
• 47:55
  Speaker 11: to say this is about getting rid of Hamas and
• 47:58
  Speaker 11: when Hamas is gone, Gaza has that new day. And
• 48:00
  Speaker 11: most Israelis... And I have family members who have spent
• 48:04
  Speaker 11: hundreds and hundreds of days in the army, in Gaza,
• 48:08
  Speaker 11: in Lebanon. You know, all of us have been sacrificing constantly.
• 48:12
  Speaker 11: And they didn't go to these wars to destroy anyone.
• 48:17
  Speaker 11: They went to these wars to kill Hamas, who will
• 48:20
  Speaker 11: never stop coming for our kids and declare it publicly.
• 48:23
  Speaker 11: And my government has refused to do this most basic thing. thing,
• 48:29
  Speaker 11: and that the Israelis actually went to fight, believe in,
• 48:33
  Speaker 11: which is, this is about the enemy, this is not
• 48:35
  Speaker 11: about the people. And so, yes, we are led in
• 48:38
  Speaker 11: the most delicate moment in Israel's history by the most
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: incompetent fools, whoever led us.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Do you have problems for the criticism?
• 48:45
  Speaker 11: I'm going to lose friends.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: What?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: We haven't gotten into any problems. Always tell the truth.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: You'll be fine.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: For the criticism that you have of the Israeli government?
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: No.
• 48:54
  Speaker 11: The majority of Jews I talk to, the majority of
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: Israelis I talk to agree with me. Some of them
• 48:59
  Speaker 11: are a little angry with me because, you know, Netanyahu,
• 49:04
  Speaker 11: the scale of the failure is just shocking. Like, Netanyahu
• 49:07
  Speaker 11: hasn't spoken. So in this government, every Israeli government is
• 49:11
  Speaker 11: a coalition. You guys don't have those. But in a
• 49:13
  Speaker 11: parliamentary system, you can have a coalition of like five parties.
• 49:15
  Speaker 11: They don't agree on anything, but they agree to run
• 49:17
  Speaker 11: together and each one gets a little piece of politics.
• 49:20
  Speaker 11: that they control. And that's how a coalition works. That's
• 49:22
  Speaker 11: how it works in Austria and Latvia.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of.
• 49:24
  Speaker 11: Democracies work that way. The most extreme parties in Israel
• 49:27
  Speaker 11: are in this coalition. I mean, Itamar Ben-Gvir is this
• 49:31
  Speaker 11: guy who is the most extreme. There's no humans to
• 49:34
  Speaker 11: the right of him in Israeli politics. He's literally the edge.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: And he's in his government.
• 49:39
  Speaker 11: And he has said that the goal of the war
• 49:41
  Speaker 11: is to get rid of all the Gazans. And you
• 49:44
  Speaker 11: sit there and you're like, now if that's not what
• 49:46
  Speaker 11: most Israelis think the goal of the war is, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 11: if that's not what the soldiers are dying, fighting Hamas
• 49:51
  Speaker 11: are dying for, and if that's not what most Israelis,
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: but that's what the guy says, right? So that's a
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: self-inflicted wound, but it's not just that. Netanyahu, because Ben-Gur
• 50:01
  Speaker 11: has the deciding vote in the coalition because it was
• 50:04
  Speaker 11: a narrow election, he actually got elected with just short
• 50:07
  Speaker 11: of the popular vote. I don't know if you guys...
• 50:09
  Speaker 11: happens in your system that you can win without the
• 50:12
  Speaker 11: popular vote, but I'm joking.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I apologize.
• 50:15
  Speaker 11: But it's a very close coalition and Netanyahu doesn't speak
• 50:21
  Speaker 11: about the war. A little bit when Trump gets angry
• 50:22
  Speaker 11: at him for looking so awful and making Trump look
• 50:25
  Speaker 11: bad because of it, then Netanyahu will say something about
• 50:28
  Speaker 11: God's having a better future. But the fact is, when
• 50:32
  Speaker 11: Trump came up with the peace plan, with the Board
• 50:34
  Speaker 11: of Peace, it's this plan where Gaza is going to
• 50:37
  Speaker 11: be rebuilt. There's going to be huge Arab money that
• 50:40
  Speaker 11: everyone's on board. The Arab countries are on board. The
• 50:42
  Speaker 11: thing passed the UN Security Council. This is the official
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: international community plan for rebuilding Gaza. It's all in place.
• 50:48
  Speaker 11: And Netanyahu's on board. Maybe because of Trump's pressure.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 50:52
  Speaker 11: But Netanyahu's on board. That didn't actually cost him his government.
• 50:54
  Speaker 11: It didn't enrage Israelis. Netanyahu has refused to just say
• 50:59
  Speaker 11: this is a war because he's dealing with these far
• 51:02
  Speaker 11: rightists he depends on for his government. This is a
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: war that needs to have a good end. And that's
• 51:06
  Speaker 11: the purpose of the war.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: The guy you just named, if he says things like that,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: why do people get mad when they say it's a genocide?
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: He's literally telling you he wants to commit genocide if
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: he says he wants to get rid of all God.
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 51:19
  Speaker 11: I mean, I don't know if you want to nitpick.
• 51:20
  Speaker 11: He's talking about ethnic cleansing. I know that sounds like nitpicking.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: It's genocide, ethnic cleansing. It's the same thing.
• 51:27
  Speaker 11: It's not the same thing. It's just that both are monstrous,
• 51:29
  Speaker 11: but they're very different. The Jews in the 20th century
• 51:32
  Speaker 11: had one great genocide and maybe 25 ethnic cleansings. And
• 51:35
  Speaker 11: the ethnic cleansings are considered the success story because they
• 51:39
  Speaker 11: all moved to Israel and built Israel. Genocide is worse,
• 51:42
  Speaker 11: but ethnic cleansing is so bad that if someone around
• 51:47
  Speaker 11: the world hears that and says, well, that sounds kind
• 51:49
  Speaker 11: of genocidal.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: But if you say you want, if we know 20,000,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: over 20,000 kids have been killed, and you say, I
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: want to get rid of all guardians. Did he say
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: kill or get rid of?
• 51:58
  Speaker 11: No, no, he wants them to move.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 52:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah, he doesn't want them to die.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I know. But it's a thin line between ethnic cleansing
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and genocide.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: But the words are different.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: It's a huge moral. I don't think he cares. It's
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: a huge.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Moral line, but.
• 52:11
  Speaker 11: It's like, do you want to... I don't want to
• 52:14
  Speaker 11: go down this way. Yes, ethnic cleansing is so evil
• 52:17
  Speaker 11: that it's evil enough.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Yes. And I think we get caught up in words,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: like even with the free Palestine thing. What is the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: proper way to call for the national liberation for Palestinian people?
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: If free Palestine is being demonized. They need to be free.
• 52:28
  Speaker 11: They need to be independent. They need to have self-determination.
• 52:31
  Speaker 11: They need to have their own state under the sun.
• 52:33
  Speaker 11: They need to be able to be masters of their
• 52:34
  Speaker 11: own fate. They're living under military rule. That's a fact
• 52:37
  Speaker 11: that's not relevant to any of the vocabulary you use.
• 52:40
  Speaker 11: And that's not tenable. That's not sustainable. That can't be
• 52:44
  Speaker 11: the future. I got to tell you, I think we've
• 52:47
  Speaker 11: all become abstractions. Instead of talking about real people, we're abstractions.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 52:52
  Speaker 11: People don't understand what an ordinary Israeli sees. And they
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: don't understand, I think, also what an ordinary Palestinian sees.
• 52:58
  Speaker 11: Because an ordinary Palestinian absolutely hates the Israelis, absolutely sees
• 53:02
  Speaker 11: the Israelis coming for them. But wow, are they trapped.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: They hate them.
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: Their leadership in Ramallah, the Mahmoud Abbas government of the PA,
• 53:10
  Speaker 11: they hate Hamas. Even as they are ennobled by Hamas'
• 53:14
  Speaker 11: great war and sacrifice for them, they think Hamas ruined
• 53:18
  Speaker 11: their lives at the same time. The same people in
• 53:19
  Speaker 11: the same minds can think these complicated things. And nobody
• 53:23
  Speaker 11: really has a conversation about what those ordinary people think.
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: I come from the Israelis, and I've got to tell you,
• 53:30
  Speaker 11: I agree with the mainstream Israeli view. And the mainstream Israeli.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: View is basically.
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: There is this ideological world in the Middle East.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: It has a name.
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: It's an ideology.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: It has a history.
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: It's 150 years of a movement of a theology that's
• 53:45
  Speaker 11: coming for us. That's coming to destroy us. If you're
• 53:47
  Speaker 11: an adult Israeli, you have never lived a day of
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: your life without hearing some Middle Eastern leader demand your extermination.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: And it's exhausting.
• 53:57
  Speaker 11: And when Hamas comes for us and an outsider will
• 54:00
  Speaker 11: look in and say, well, all right, but there's this occupation,
• 54:02
  Speaker 11: so they have a reason. The Iranian regime is obsessed
• 54:05
  Speaker 11: with destroying Israel. Iran has no border with Israel. It
• 54:09
  Speaker 11: has no interest in Israel. Iran doesn't believe in rights.
• 54:13
  Speaker 11: It doesn't give its own people rights. It's not doing
• 54:14
  Speaker 11: this for Palestinian rights. Why is the Iranian regime obsessed
• 54:18
  Speaker 11: with Israel to the point where they declared a national
• 54:20
  Speaker 11: holiday called Quds Day? which is this huge holiday for
• 54:24
  Speaker 11: the regime where they march their army through the streets
• 54:27
  Speaker 11: of Tehran to celebrate the great power of the resistance.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: What the hell is that?
• 54:32
  Speaker 11: They call themselves, by the way, the Mukawama, the resistance.
• 54:35
  Speaker 11: And when you hear people screaming resistance in the streets
• 54:37
  Speaker 11: of New York, long live the resistance, it's a mass
• 54:41
  Speaker 11: murdering genocidal ideology that demands that my people die. And
• 54:45
  Speaker 11: that's totally kosher because they've been coded brown and I've
• 54:48
  Speaker 11: been coded white. And so I don't get to complain.
• 54:51
  Speaker 11: And that's the conversation that you have in the streets
• 54:53
  Speaker 11: of New York with these activists.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Why does it sometimes feel like we're being asked to
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: understand Jewish trauma without giving Palestinian trauma that same understanding?
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Because everything you just said could be a Palestinian that
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: would say the exact same thing. Just reverse.
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  Speaker 11: I think you can't get anywhere if you don't understand
• 55:10
  Speaker 11: all the trauma. Let's say I want peace. I got
• 55:13
  Speaker 11: four kids. My oldest is 15. He's a pretty serious athlete.
• 55:18
  Speaker 11: He terrifies me. Because he's going to be something... potentially
• 55:21
  Speaker 11: pretty elite and go to do things that are dangerous.
• 55:24
  Speaker 11: When an Israeli kid goes into the army, it's not
• 55:26
  Speaker 11: the Belgian army. He's actually going to have to fight
• 55:28
  Speaker 11: a war. So let's imagine that I want peace desperately,
• 55:32
  Speaker 11: not because somebody overseas yelled at me about it. How
• 55:35
  Speaker 11: do I actually do it today? If I go to
• 55:37
  Speaker 11: the Palestinian political world and I say, hey, guys, let's
• 55:40
  Speaker 11: make peace. They'll say, OK, well, we need we need land.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: We need a place. We need a country.
• 55:44
  Speaker 11: We need we need freedom. And I'm like, great. Let's
• 55:47
  Speaker 11: split the land. This is proposed in 1937 for the
• 55:50
  Speaker 11: first time. Let's finally do some kind of a split, right?
• 55:54
  Speaker 11: And then I meet Hamas on the other side, which
• 55:56
  Speaker 11: is the most popular political movement among the Palestinians. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 11: Hamas says, no, we're not splitting. That's offense against God
• 56:03
  Speaker 11: if we split. Palestine is something called Waqf. It's a
• 56:07
  Speaker 11: Muslim trust, according to Hamas, meaning you can't compromise on it.
• 56:10
  Speaker 11: You can't give any of it away. So peace with
• 56:13
  Speaker 11: the Jews for Hamas is the Jews all leave, or
• 56:16
  Speaker 11: we kill them until they leave. And I need to
• 56:19
  Speaker 11: then find among the Palestinians, the anti-Hamas. And then I
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: need to find among the Palestinians, the people who don't
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: like Hamas, and there's a lot of them, and stop
• 56:29
  Speaker 11: undermining them by, if I'm behaving toward them badly, that
• 56:35
  Speaker 11: undermines them inside the Palestinian conversation. So I have to
• 56:38
  Speaker 11: find ways to strengthen them, and then come to them
• 56:41
  Speaker 11: and make some kind of an agreement with them. And
• 56:43
  Speaker 11: then back on my side, because the only voice that
• 56:46
  Speaker 11: The only Palestinian voice Israelis ever hear is Hamas. No
• 56:48
  Speaker 11: other Palestinians talking to Israelis. And all Hamas is saying
• 56:51
  Speaker 11: to them is.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: We're going to kill you.
• 56:53
  Speaker 11: So we need to find these voices from each side
• 56:55
  Speaker 11: that says to the other side, we're not coming to
• 56:57
  Speaker 11: kill you. And that's an alliance that can move forward.
• 57:00
  Speaker 11: And that only comes by knowing both stories.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: But you can't do that with the current Israeli government, clearly, right?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Not if you're telling us that, you know, the guy
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: that he wants to get rid of all people from Gaza.
• 57:10
  Speaker 11: The far right of Israel is not only incapable of
• 57:12
  Speaker 11: doing it, it's totally uninterested in doing it.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: This is my last question.
• 57:16
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: You've explained why Israelis are afraid of what could happen
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: if they give up control over Palestinian territories, right? But
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: what are Palestinians supposed to do while Israelis wait to
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: feel safe enough to give them freedom?
• 57:28
  Speaker 11: In 30 years of peace processing, no Palestinian leader has
• 57:32
  Speaker 11: ever spoken to the Israeli people. And sometimes, and you
• 57:36
  Speaker 11: already asked about this, so I'll answer directly. Sometimes you say,
• 57:39
  Speaker 11: sometimes the weaker side has agency. The Israeli left believes
• 57:45
  Speaker 11: that it tried... And Palestinian radicalism destroyed its attempt. And
• 57:50
  Speaker 11: there are thousands of dead people on that attempt. And
• 57:54
  Speaker 11: that politically makes it almost impossible for them to move.
• 57:57
  Speaker 11: There needs to be a Palestinian movement that says, the Israelis.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: You're good.
• 58:02
  Speaker 11: You're fine. You can live here. There is an active
• 58:05
  Speaker 11: Palestinian political world doing active things. And mostly they take
• 58:09
  Speaker 11: the form of Hamas. And that is catastrophically destructive to
• 58:12
  Speaker 11: the possibility of Israelis ever saying, we can possibly afford
• 58:15
  Speaker 11: to come down off the West bank. You know, the
• 58:17
  Speaker 11: West bank are the mountains that overlook all of our cities.
• 58:20
  Speaker 11: If we give up the West bank, we are nine
• 58:22
  Speaker 11: miles wide in the middle of the country. Now that's
• 58:25
  Speaker 11: not an argument not to, but it is an argument
• 58:28
  Speaker 11: to respect the fact that it might feel terribly frightening
• 58:31
  Speaker 11: and scary in the middle of the Middle East.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Who are our neighbors?
• 58:34
  Speaker 11: Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Saudi, Lebanon. You want to be nine
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: miles wide in the Middle East right now? Like would
• 58:41
  Speaker 11: America do that? So it's, If it's not safe, it
• 58:45
  Speaker 11: won't happen. Again, when I speak overseas, especially to Americans,
• 58:49
  Speaker 11: because Americans have this culture of thinking about things in
• 58:52
  Speaker 11: moral terms, which is an awesome, beautiful tradition. It just
• 58:55
  Speaker 11: can make it hard to think about other people's experiences
• 58:57
  Speaker 11: somewhere else. I'm not making a moral argument that it
• 59:00
  Speaker 11: shouldn't happen. I'm saying if you want to get it done,
• 59:02
  Speaker 11: the practical path to getting it done is that the
• 59:05
  Speaker 11: Israelis have to have any reason to believe that it
• 59:09
  Speaker 11: won't end in catastrophe. disaster for them, and then a
• 59:11
  Speaker 11: knock-on disaster for the Palestinians. It has to actually be
• 59:14
  Speaker 11: safe before it can happen. Which means that if there
• 59:17
  Speaker 11: is to be a Palestinian state, it probably should be
• 59:19
  Speaker 11: as part of a much larger bargain with Arab states
• 59:22
  Speaker 11: that can come in, that can fill the power vacuums,
• 59:24
  Speaker 11: that can prevent a Hamas coming over. This is basically
• 59:26
  Speaker 11: the international plan for Gaza. that a bunch of Arab
• 59:29
  Speaker 11: countries come in and put together Gaza. Maybe that's a
• 59:32
  Speaker 11: solution for two-thirds of the West Bank that can then
• 59:34
  Speaker 11: be connected to in some confederation with Jordan, so they
• 59:36
  Speaker 11: have an international airport. You can't build an airport in
• 59:40
  Speaker 11: the West Bank.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: It's too hilly.
• 59:41
  Speaker 11: There's no flat areas. But what if there's an open
• 59:43
  Speaker 11: border between the new state of Palestine and Jordan, and
• 59:45
  Speaker 11: that's some kind of a confederation, and Jordan and Israel
• 59:48
  Speaker 11: have a peace treaty, and we supply them with their water,
• 59:50
  Speaker 11: and they have the stewardship over Al-Aqsa, the holy site
• 59:53
  Speaker 11: of Gaza.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Do you think there will ever be a regime in
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Israel that really wants that?
• 59:58
  Speaker 11: It's doable, but it's doable if it's not going to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 11: involve the mass murder of my children. And the only
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 11: Palestinians talking to Israelis are Hamas.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: But the only Israelis talking to Palestinians are people like
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: the guy who you say want to get rid of
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: all people and guys.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 11: The only Israelis that most Palestinians hear is the Ben-Gurion.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Well, it was a great conversation. I mean,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: we clearly didn't solve peace in the Middle East, but
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: it was a great conversation. That was so close. Tell
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: them how to follow you and stuff, man.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 13: If you want all this backlash.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I have a podcast called Ask Khabib Anything.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 11: It was my wife's idea for a brand. And now
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 11: people ask me questions I don't know the answers to.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 11: But if you come to me and questions on the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 11: Middle East, Israel, Palestinians, the conflict, I'll do the best
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 11: I can to answer the question. And we got, you know, Patreon, Substack,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 11: all of that kind of stuff.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I enjoyed the conversation. Oh, and I'm at the Free Press,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: which is... Awesome.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 11: And I love those guys. And that's my American connection.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: All right. Thank you for joining us. Appreciate you.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 11: Thank you.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. That's right. Good morning, everybody.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Again, salute to Haviv Gur for joining us. He's an
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Israeli journalist and host of the Ask Haviv Anything podcast.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: If you want to see the full interview, you can
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: check it out on Netflix.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: And go to his social media. He gave it out
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: so y'all can argue all day long. Absolutely. And Cenk
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Uygur will be joining us next hour. Cenk Uygur, that's right.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: And he is co-host of the online news show The
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Young Turks. Yes, he's a Turkish-American political commentator. And I'm
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: sure you've seen him all over the place. But let's
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: get to the latest with Lauren.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Talk to me! Mike's off. Turn on Michael. Hello.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: OK, I'm here now.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 10: So let's talk a bit about Jalen Hurts. Yesterday, there
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: was a lot of back and forth because it has
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 10: been further announced. It was originally announced on Monday morning
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 10: in a joint statement with Jalen Hurts agent Nicole Lynn.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: And the Eagles, that he will be sitting out.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 10: And now there are reports that he will not be
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 10: able to play for the rest of the season dealing
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 10: with blood clots. Now, the medical diagnosis that was mentioned
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 10: were deep vein thrombosis and bilateral pulmonary emboli. Now, at
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 10: the time when all these conversations first started, I mentioned,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 10: you know, sitting out for the season, but that wasn't
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 10: officially announced. They just said that he needed time for recovery.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: But then other reports came talking about, you know, him
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: being out for the rest of the season. But now
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 10: there's a conversation about the fact that Jalen was allowed
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: to go over and play the Jaguars in London.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: So he was able to fly. He was able to
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: then practice.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: And all this happened while the Eagles knew that there was,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: you know, these blood clots or something happening with him.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: Nick Sirianni got pressed in a press conference because people
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 10: had a lot of questions of why aren't you guys
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: or why didn't you guys do more to stop him
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 10: from playing, from practicing?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to Nick Sirianni.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 15: Nick, why was John Hurts allowed to fly home despite
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 15: the team knowing that he had a blood clot?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 13: Again, I'm not a medical expert. Same deal there. We
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 13: get medical information from our guys, and we always put
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 13: the player's health at first and foremost, in every situation. And,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 13: you know, that's where we were there.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 15: Did you, were you briefed by the medical team before
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 15: you did this press conference on why he was permitted
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 15: to fly despite the blood clot?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, I talked to them a lot.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 13: Can you give us the information?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: I talked to the guys.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 15: As a spokesman of the team, we're just hoping you
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 15: give us some information for the public.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 13: Guys, I've addressed this. I've talked to you guys about this. Again,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 13: the medical experts are there. And I think I've answered
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 13: this question multiple times. We put out a statement for
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 13: you guys to hear.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the same thing that very, very, very
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: they said is very close to what Chris Bosh had.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: You know, Chris Bosh had the same type of thing.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: He had a blood clot in his leg. It traveled
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: to his lungs, which ultimately forced him to retire from basketball,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: medically retire from basketball. So I know people are comparing
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: it and they're thinking that maybe Jalen Hurts might have
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: to retire.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not the highest grade of weed in the dispensary,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: but it feels like there was some serious medical malpractice
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: that happened here and potentially a lawsuit. Because if doctors
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: were concerned enough to tell him, you know, not to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: go to sleep, how did they determine that playing football
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: was safe? Now, you're right.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: And they're saying the treatment for this is blood thinners.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: When you get blood thinners, it makes contact and collision
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: sports dangerous. due to the risk of internal bleeding.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: So in the statement that Nicole and his agent put up,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 10: the most recent one, because the original one was talking about,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 10: you know, superficial blood clots, but this one says that
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 10: he will be taking blood thinners and that once he's
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: off the blood thinners, he will be able to return
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 10: to contact football. So, and they're saying that he's going to,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: so yeah, they're saying they're anticipating him returning to the sport,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: but there's a lot of people that have questions. Yesterday,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 10: Michael Robinson was getting a lot of, uh, Flack online
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 10: as well, too, because he made these comments in original
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 10: reporting around Jalen Hurst.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen to Michael Robinson.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 9: This is just me looking outside looking in. I don't
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: know nothing, guys. But it looked like they were trying
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 9: to pin the outcome of this season on a Jalen
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: Hurts just so that they can have an excuse later
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 9: on to move on from Jalen Hurts.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: And again, I'm not saying I know nothing, guys.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: But if I'm just playing devil's advocate here and I'm
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 9: thinking that way, if I'm Jalen Hurts or anybody in
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 9: Jalen Hurts' camp, I'm saying, well, if everybody's hurt, I'm
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: hurt too.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Guys, I've been cleated before.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: And I'm not saying, you know, a superficial blood clot
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: isn't serious. I'm not saying that. But I would advise
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 9: every all of our viewers to go Google superficial blood
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: clot as opposed to a real blood clot.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: And again, I'm not a medical guy, but I'm.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: Just saying to me, it looked like Jalen is kind
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: of getting himself out of the fray so that this
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: lost season with Jim J.D.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: You just said it. Yeah, this is a lost season.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 9: He's pulling himself out so that this doesn't look like.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 5: It's on me.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: So I know you're not a doctor, Lauren, or whatever,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: but what is the difference between a superficial blood clot
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: and a real blood clot? Because that's what the guy
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: just said.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 10: All I would be able to do is Google it,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 10: and I don't want to misspeak or anything like that,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 10: so I can't answer that question.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Because I mean, the way that he is posing is like...
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: The superficial one is not real. It's not that serious.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: It's very important to note that he already apologized.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, I have the apology here. That's exactly why I'm like,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: He just sounded crazy.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 10: So he had to apologize. He says, I want to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 10: sincerely apologize to Jalen Hurts' family and the Philadelphia Eagles
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 10: organizations and the fan base for my comments last Thursday.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: They were unfounded and I never should have speculated on
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 10: a health issue of a player nor his commitment to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 10: his team.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: And that whole.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 10: Conversation that he was trying to have is because there
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: are other players that are currently hurt.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: The Eagles aren't doing well. Like, it's just like a.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 10: Whole thing that he was trying to, lean into but
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: didn't go well because anything medical especially something that could
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: be life or death for somebody people just don't want
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 10: to hear you just.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Live in a world where everybody got to have a
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: take you know what i'm saying you're paying him to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: give commentary so he just felt like he had to
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: have a take but you know all i know is
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: it feels like jalen hurts has legitimate grounds to investigate
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: a possible medical malpractice claim whether he can win is
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: another question but there's definitely legitimate grounds to investigate.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're out there listening and you're like me,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: you're thinking, like, what are signs of blood clotting? Because
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: that's the first thing I just thought about. I just
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: want to tell you something. I went to Men's Health.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: They said swelling on your limbs, lower leg or arm pain.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: They said redness on your skin, chest pain, shortness of
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: breath or racing heart, and unexplained coughing. Those are signs
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: of blood clots. And when I travel now, you're going
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: to laugh at me. If you ever see me in
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: the airport, I got these compression socks on. I don't
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: know why, but I don't think they might work. But
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want no blood clots. Well, I've been doing
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: that for years.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: With compression socks? No, no, not compression socks, but I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: take a couple of baby aspirin before you get on
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a plane.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: I was told to do that a long time ago.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: Do that, yeah.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's a regimen a lot of people are given.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 10: They give you, like, more serious ones when things aren't moving.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: I know that just because of my grandmother, but.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Blood clots ain't nothing to play with, though.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: No, nothing at all.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: And nothing to get in no air and be flying
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: with either.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:08:01
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• 1:08:13
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  Speaker 1: Listen, for after the hour, man, we need the Texas
• 1:08:17
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• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: We need to talk about this Amber Geiger thing, okay?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that next.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for Donkey of the Day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Democrat, so being Donkey of the Day is
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a mixed question.
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  Speaker 1: So like a donkey.
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  Speaker 3: Donkey of the Day!
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club, bitches.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I've been called a lot in my 23 years,
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  Speaker 5: but Donkey of the.
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  Speaker 3: Day is a new one.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Donkey of the Day for Tuesday, October 20th goes
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  Speaker 1: to the Texas criminal justice system. Oh, the mayonnaise is
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  Speaker 1: heavy with this one, ladies and gentlemen. Before we even
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  Speaker 1: get started, I need you all to remember and center
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  Speaker 1: the name both from... okay i need everybody to remember
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  Speaker 1: the name bofum john bofum was a 26 year old
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  Speaker 1: black man living in dallas texas And on September 6, 2018,
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  Speaker 1: he was sitting in his own apartment, minding his business,
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  Speaker 1: eating some ice cream, when an off-duty police officer named
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  Speaker 1: Amber Geiger walked in his apartment and shot him to death.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to KPRC 2 News for the original report, please.
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  Speaker 8: It took about six hours of deliberations and some additional
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  Speaker 8: questions about the case, but the jury decided Amber Geiger
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  Speaker 8: committed murder.
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  Speaker 2: We, the jury, unanimously find the defendant, Amber Geiger, guilty
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  Speaker 2: of murder.
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  Speaker 8: The former Dallas police officer, now a convicted killer, a
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  Speaker 8: year after she walked into the wrong apartment, a floor
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  Speaker 8: above her, shooting Botham Jean, who was eating ice cream
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  Speaker 8: and watching a movie inside his home. His family celebrating
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  Speaker 8: the verdict while Amber Geiger was visibly shaken. The jury's
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  Speaker 8: decision comes after seven days of arguments and evidence.
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  Speaker 1: Another riveting moment during the trial. I was scared. Whoever
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  Speaker 1: was inside my apartment was going to kill me. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 8: Geiger's emotionally charged testimony.
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  Speaker 1: I wish he was.
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  Speaker 4: The one with the gun that killed me.
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  Speaker 3: I never wanted to take an innocent person's life.
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  Speaker 8: Her words apparently did not resonate with the jury.
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of things happen in this world,
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  Speaker 1: so we might have forgotten about that case. But I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to refresh your memory. OK, Amber Geiger claimed
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  Speaker 1: she thought she was entering her own apartment. She said
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  Speaker 1: she mistook. Bolton John for an intruder. Imagine that. OK,
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  Speaker 1: you're in your own home doing absolutely nothing wrong. And
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  Speaker 1: somebody walks into your apartment, mistakes you for an intruder
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  Speaker 1: and kills you. OK, there is absolutely nothing Bolton could
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  Speaker 1: have done differently in that situation to still be alive,
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  Speaker 1: except not be at home. OK, we constantly tell black
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  Speaker 1: men how to behave during encounters with police. Keep your
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  Speaker 1: hands visible. Don't make sudden movements. Follow instructions. Don't resist.
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  Speaker 1: Both of them wasn't having an encounter with the police.
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  Speaker 1: He was home. OK, enjoying a bowl of ice cream,
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  Speaker 1: a luxury that I should not experience because I'm lactose intolerant.
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  Speaker 1: All right. He wasn't driving. He wasn't running. He wasn't
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  Speaker 1: resisting arrest. He wasn't committing a crime. He was sitting
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  Speaker 1: in his own apartment eating ice cream and he was murdered.
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  Speaker 1: Let's never forget that. OK, let's never forget that story
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  Speaker 1: or the context of that story. Now, in 2019, Amber
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  Speaker 1: Giger was convicted of murder and sentenced to 10 years
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  Speaker 1: in prison. Prosecutors asked for 28, but she only ended
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  Speaker 1: up serving seven. She came home last Friday. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to Fox 4 for the report, please.
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  Speaker 14: After seven years of serving her sentence, Amber Geiger was
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  Speaker 14: released from the Christina Melton crane unit here in Gatesville.
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  Speaker 14: It is 42 miles west of Waco. She was released
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  Speaker 14: this morning, but we don't know exactly what time the
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  Speaker 14: Texas Department of of criminal justice is not releasing that information.
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  Speaker 14: Her attorney, Robert Roberts, told me that she does have
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  Speaker 14: a job lined up and she's not wanting to make
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  Speaker 14: any statements. The murder happened September 6, 2018. Geiger returned
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  Speaker 14: to her home after a 13-hour shift. She lived on
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  Speaker 14: the third floor of Southside Flats near downtown Dallas. Geiger
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  Speaker 14: said she did not notice that she was on the
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  Speaker 14: fourth floor or see the red door mount outside Botham
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  Speaker 14: Jean's apartment.
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  Speaker 3: She walked inside and shot.
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  Speaker 1: Jean twice, believing he was a burglar.
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  Speaker 14: She called 911 and first responders took Sean to a
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  Speaker 14: hospital where he died.
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  Speaker 1: He was 26 years old.
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  Speaker 14: The Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles listed several reasons
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  Speaker 14: for Geiger's early release. Those reasons included no pattern of violence,
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  Speaker 14: institutional adjustment and completion of programs and activities and the
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  Speaker 14: individual treatment plan.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I'm not here to argue against rehabilitation. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: against forgiveness. I'm all for second chances. OK, I believe
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  Speaker 1: people can change. I believe you can be redeemed. All right.
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  Speaker 1: But this situation raises a question that I think we
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  Speaker 1: should all be asking. Whose humanity gets centered in the
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  Speaker 1: American criminal justice system? Because when Amber Geiger killed both
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  Speaker 1: and John, we heard about how tired she was, how
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  Speaker 1: confused she was, how she made a mistake, how she
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  Speaker 1: didn't mean to kill him. OK, she accidentally walked into
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  Speaker 1: the wrong apartment when she was sentenced. We heard about
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  Speaker 1: her remorse. OK, when she became eligible for parole, we
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  Speaker 1: heard about her good behavior. We heard about her rehabilitation
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  Speaker 1: and whether she deserved another chance. At every stage of
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  Speaker 1: this process, there was an opportunity to consider Amber Geiger's humanity.
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  Speaker 1: How much consideration was given to Bolton Johns? Both of
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  Speaker 1: them was 26 years old. He had a family who
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  Speaker 1: loved him. OK, he had dreams. He had plans. He
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  Speaker 1: had an entire future that was taken away from him.
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  Speaker 1: He never got to turn 27. Amber Geiger gets to
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  Speaker 1: rebuild her life at 38. OK, Botham John never got
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to rebuild anything. And that's what bothers me
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  Speaker 1: about this situation. We seem to spend more time discussing
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  Speaker 1: the circumstances of the person who took a black life
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  Speaker 1: than the value of the black life that was taken.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know. Why do you have to make
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  Speaker 1: this about race, Charlemagne? Because we do. All right. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: we have to talk about race and policing. Amber Geiger
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  Speaker 1: is a white former police officer. Botham John was an
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  Speaker 1: innocent black man. Now, can I prove that Amber Geiger
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  Speaker 1: received a 10-year sentence and was granted parole because she's
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  Speaker 1: white or because she was a police officer?
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 1: But we would be foolish not to question whether race
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  Speaker 1: and professional privilege influence how people experience the criminal justice system. OK,
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  Speaker 1: we know it does.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Because I want you to imagine something. What if Botham
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  Speaker 1: John had accidentally walked into Amber Geiger's apartment and shot her?
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  Speaker 1: Would the system have shown him the same consideration? Would
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  Speaker 1: we have heard about how tired he was, how confused
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  Speaker 1: he was, how he made an honest mistake? Look at
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  Speaker 1: the headline. Black man walked into a white woman police
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  Speaker 1: officer's apartment accidentally and killed her. Would he have just
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  Speaker 1: received 10 years? Would he be walking out of prison
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  Speaker 1: seven years later? I don't know the answer to those questions,
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  Speaker 1: but based off what this country has shown, okay, based
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  Speaker 1: off what states like Texas have shown me, the answer
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  Speaker 1: to that is hell no, okay? But the fact... that
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  Speaker 1: we have to ask that question says something about the
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  Speaker 1: lack of trust people have in our justice system. And
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  Speaker 1: I know some people are going to say, well, Charlemagne,
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  Speaker 1: she served her time. She followed the rules. She was
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  Speaker 1: eligible for parole. You're right. That's why the Texas criminal
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  Speaker 1: justice system is getting donkier today. Amber Geiger didn't sentence
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  Speaker 1: herself to 10 years. She didn't write the parole law.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't grant herself parole. The system did all that.
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  Speaker 1: And when a person can be convicted of murdering an
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  Speaker 1: innocent man in his own home and be back home
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  Speaker 1: seven years later, I think we have every right to
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  Speaker 1: question whether that system delivered accurate justice. I also want
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  Speaker 1: to acknowledge something that happened during Amber Geiger's sentencing. Botham
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  Speaker 1: John's younger brother, I think he pronounced his name Brant.
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  Speaker 1: He publicly forgave Amber. He even embraced her in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: That was an extraordinary act of grace. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: that in me. OK, I don't care how much work
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  Speaker 1: I've done on myself. I absolutely do not have that
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  Speaker 1: in me. But forgiveness and accountability are not the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: If Brant John wanted to forgive Amber Geiger, that's on him.
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  Speaker 1: I personally don't believe we should stop recognizing the humanity
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  Speaker 1: of a person just because they've committed a crime. So
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  Speaker 1: he had every right to forgive Amber Geiger. But I
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  Speaker 1: want all of us to make sure we're recognizing the
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  Speaker 1: humanity of the people. OK, harmed by those crimes, too,
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  Speaker 1: because Amber Geiger is going to have birthdays. OK, she's
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  Speaker 1: going to spend the holidays with her family. She's going
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  Speaker 1: to experience things that Botham John and his family never
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  Speaker 1: will be able to again. And I keep coming back
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  Speaker 1: to one thing. Amber Geiger gets to go home after
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  Speaker 1: seven years. Botham John was already home. That's what she
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  Speaker 1: killed him. Okay, the one place Botham should have been
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  Speaker 1: safe was the place where his life ended, okay? And
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  Speaker 1: the person responsible for ending it now gets another opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to live hers. So my question to the Texas criminal
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  Speaker 1: justice system is simple. When you considered Amber Geiger's remorse
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  Speaker 1: and rehabilitation and her future, how much weight did you
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  Speaker 1: give to the future she took away? Because justice should
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  Speaker 1: never require us to ignore one person's humanity to recognize another's.
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  Speaker 1: Please let Chelsea Handler give the Texas criminal justice system
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  Speaker 1: the biggest hee-haw. Hee-haw, hee-haw.
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  Speaker 3: That is way too much Dan Mayonnaise. Well, hopefully she
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  Speaker 3: moves safe, you know, because everybody knows she is. So
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  Speaker 3: hopefully she moves very safe.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't nobody going to do nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying hopefully she moves safe.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Never know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that donkey today. Now, who's joining
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  Speaker 2: us next?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Jake. Jake Ugar. Jake Ugar. He is from the
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  Speaker 1: Young Turks Network. He's the founder, creator, co-host of the
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  Speaker 1: online news show, The Young Turks Network. So he'll be
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  Speaker 1: joining us next. And we're going to talk to him next.
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  Speaker 5: Don't move.
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  Speaker 1: It's The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 6: Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious.
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne Tha Guy. We are The Breakfast Club. Law and
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  Speaker 2: the Rose is here as well. We got a special guest.
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  Speaker 1: In the building. Yes, indeed. We have Jake Ugar. Well,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing this morning, first and foremost? I'm
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  Speaker 1: always good. You're always good? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Times are tough, but it can't knock us down.
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  Speaker 2: But you've been very vocal and critical of Israeli government's
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  Speaker 2: conduct in Gaza, right? Two questions for you. One, why
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  Speaker 2: is the term free Palestine make people so upset? And secondly,
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  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on Israeli government? I know Netanyahu,
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  Speaker 2: he said he's going to tell the truth about Mamdani.
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  Speaker 4: So what are your thoughts on both of those? Look,
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  Speaker 4: there's so much to say about Israel. Number one, of course,
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  Speaker 4: is a genocide. It's unconscionable not to call it a genocide.
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  Speaker 4: And weirdly, not a single cable news anchor has called
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  Speaker 4: it a genocide. That's super weird. Like every genocide scholar
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  Speaker 4: on earth, let's be honest, that's not Zionist, says it's
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  Speaker 4: a genocide.
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  Speaker 1: And I say that Gaza's gone. Who are you kidding?
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  Speaker 1: Gaza's gone. Show me where great Gaza is. You crazy, right?
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  Speaker 4: And Israel has stolen 70% of that land, and they're
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  Speaker 4: never going to give it back. They're in Southern Lebanon
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  Speaker 4: and they're never going to give it back. And they're
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  Speaker 4: tearing the West Bank to shreds now. So Israel is
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  Speaker 4: a at this point, a genocidal fascist state, okay? So
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  Speaker 4: I'm not parsing any words. You don't get to slaughter
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  Speaker 4: 23,000 children and go, it's not a big deal, they're
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  Speaker 4: Palestinian children. Because that's what you're saying. Because you told
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  Speaker 4: me on October 7th that that was the worst thing
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  Speaker 4: that happened since the Holocaust. And I agreed with you, right?
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  Speaker 4: And on the air, we're yelling like, what are you crazy?
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  Speaker 1: This is terrible, it's terrorism.
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  Speaker 4: And 36 poor kids, Israeli kids died on that day, right?
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  Speaker 4: And picture them having milk and cookies and playing soccer
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  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden they're dead, right?
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  Speaker 1: 36 kids, our hearts are broken.
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  Speaker 4: 23,000 kids, a stadium full of... Imagine Madison Square Garden
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  Speaker 4: and every seat is filled with a dead kid. OK,
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  Speaker 4: and then they say, no, we're the good guys. We're
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  Speaker 4: the victims. Oh, we're doing self-defense. My ass you are.
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  Speaker 4: That's the Netanyahu is a genocidal monster. Somebody should arrest
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  Speaker 4: him at some point. He's an obvious war criminal. And
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  Speaker 4: he has the temerity, the gall to talk about our mayor.
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  Speaker 4: Why don't you shut the up about our mayor? OK,
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  Speaker 4: we elected him, including Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans. By the way,
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  Speaker 4: more Jewish Americans support Mamdani than Netanyahu. And everybody in
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  Speaker 4: mainstream media is a liar, right? Oh, people are concerned
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  Speaker 4: about Mamdani. No, you're concerned about Mamdani. Actual Jewish Americans
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  Speaker 4: are not concerned about Mamdani. You're making that up because
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  Speaker 4: you represent the most radical Zionists there are, okay? And
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  Speaker 4: so the Israeli ambassador is talking about it. Oh, we
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  Speaker 4: should arrest Mamdani.
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  Speaker 1: For what? Being Muslim?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, for not agreeing to, like— servitude under the Israelis.
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  Speaker 4: You're coming to our home, threatening our mayor. Who the
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  Speaker 4: hell do you think you are?
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  Speaker 1: And he has an arrest warrant. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: people don't talk about that more. The ICC issued an
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  Speaker 1: arrest warrant for Benjamin Netanyahu for war crimes. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: it's not like you're saying things that aren't factual.
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  Speaker 4: There's no question about it. And look guys, like every
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  Speaker 4: day gets to a point where people can't take it anymore.
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  Speaker 4: So like when they say on free Palestine, right. They
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  Speaker 4: jumped the shark, and everybody knows they jumped the shark
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  Speaker 4: on Macklemore on Free Palestine. They're like, that's anti-Semitic. How
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  Speaker 4: could the freedom of other people offend you? And if
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  Speaker 4: the freedom of others offends you, then fuck it. you
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  Speaker 4: okay the problem isn't with those people the problem is
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  Speaker 4: with you if you say the palestinians should never be
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  Speaker 4: free and that is what the israeli said they literally
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  Speaker 4: voted and it was unanimous every jewish israeli member of
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  Speaker 4: knesset said we will never free the palestinians they had
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  Speaker 4: that vote there's no question about it so and then
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  Speaker 4: they say well every once in a while we offer
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  Speaker 4: them peace and first of all totally if you don't
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  Speaker 4: know the oslo accords was run by jeffrey fc's best
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  Speaker 4: friend Oslo Accords, where they were pretending that they were
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  Speaker 4: giving the Palestinians a real peace deal, Epstein left the
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  Speaker 4: guy who ran the Oslo Accords $ 10 million in his will.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Okay?
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  Speaker 4: And Netanyahu threatened Bill Clinton during the Oslo Accords saying,
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  Speaker 4: we have the Monica Lewinsky tapes. Before anybody else had them,
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  Speaker 4: they wrote a whole book about this. Nobody talks about it.
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  Speaker 1: It was in the 90s? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And they're like, we have you on tape with Monica Lewinsky.
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  Speaker 4: We want Jonathan Pollard released, the traitor, right?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And Clinton didn't do it. And by the way, oh, look,
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  Speaker 4: the tapes were released. And what else wasn't released, right?
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  Speaker 4: So don't, like, by the way, Epstein, every single international
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  Speaker 4: deal he did was for Israel. So again, mainstream drop
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  Speaker 4: site news already proved it. They have the emails. Here's
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  Speaker 4: the emails.
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  Speaker 1: It's indisputable. It's factual. It's empirical.
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  Speaker 4: And there's no question about it. And mainstream media is like, shh, shh, shh.
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  Speaker 4: Don't talk about how he's connected to Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Why not? That's weird.
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  Speaker 4: Why are you covering up the news instead of covering
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  Speaker 4: the news? So free Palestine. Of course, free Palestine. What
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  Speaker 4: kind of a sick racist says, no, don't free the Palestinians?
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  Speaker 4: So if you're a radical Zionist and you think that
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  Speaker 4: their freedom offends you. You are the problem. There's no
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  Speaker 4: question about it. You are purposely racist, and you say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we need to keep those people under our boot. And look,
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  Speaker 4: last thing on that, think about it. They say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: we offer, even if it was true, we offered a
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  Speaker 4: peace deal, and, you know, they didn't get everything they wanted,
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  Speaker 4: but we was good enough. They should have taken it
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  Speaker 4: as their fault. Imagine if the slave owners back in
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  Speaker 4: the day was like, hey, we offered them a deal.
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  Speaker 4: We offered the slaves a deal. You know, we weren't
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  Speaker 4: going to sell their kids anymore. We're just going to
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  Speaker 4: sell their wives and their, you know, and their moms
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  Speaker 4: and dads. And they wouldn't take the deal. So we
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: kept them as slaves for another 50, 60 years. So
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: it's their fault.
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  Speaker 1: People went, what?
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  Speaker 4: That's like the most monstrous thing you've ever heard in
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: your life. What do you mean you offered them a deal? No,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: you free them, period. You free them, period. This is
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: not a conversation, right? And the Israelis go, no, no.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: We're never going to free them. We offered them a
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: tiny little bit, and then they refused it. So it's
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: their fault. It's their fault that we're enslaving them. No.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: Gaza is now a concentration camp. It's the size of Vegas,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: the original Gaza. You know how small Vegas is. Now
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: they're down to 30% of Vegas.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: 30%.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: They got over 2 million people stuffed in an open
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: concentration camp. Tent cities, and every once in a while,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: they bomb the tents.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: No, no, this is crazy. And then you tell me
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: you're going to cancel somebody because they said free Palestine?
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: How is that anti-Semitic?
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: What do you say to people who say free Palestine
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: is a call for the elimination of Israel?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: Look, I know that some people actually believe that. But
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: what they don't realize is that they're in a cult. Like,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: they've lost touch with reality. No, freeing the Palestinians doesn't
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: mean you kill all the Jews. But, like, any time
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: you say anything about Israel, hey, can I get, like,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: a falafel sandwich?
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Are you going to kill all the Jews?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: What the? What just happened, right? Like, oh, a Muslim
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: got elected mayor. You're going to kill all the Jews.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: Our existence doesn't mean that you don't have to exist.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 4: Like they're being so unbelievably racist that they're like, well,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: if you're free, then I'm not. But that doesn't make
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: any sense, man. The Israelis are not occupied.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: By the Palestinians.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: The Palestinians are occupied by the Israelis. They're turning the
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: whole truth upside down. It doesn't make any sense. So no,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: but the thing is guys, it's not like they're making
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: it up. Some guys at the top that are super
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: powerful are making up those talking points and they know
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 4: they're making it up. But most of the folks genuinely
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: have bought into the cult ideology. And they're like, if
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: anyone else has freedom, They're going to kill us all.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: They're going to kill us all. They're going to kill
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: us all. By the way, Zionism, this is super important,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: is not Judaism.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: And a lot of the Jewish groups initially were super
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 4: opposed to Zionism. Albert Einstein was opposed to Zionism. One
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: of the top Jewish philosophers, Hannah Arendt, was opposed to Zionism.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: They're like, you're setting up nationalism and nationalism is always
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: a threat to religion. Like it's a threat to Judaism.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: Don't do it. By the way, the Zionists, this is unbelievable.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: In 1933, they broke an anti-Nazi boycott. And other Jewish
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: groups were like, what.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: Are you doing? What are you doing? Those Nazis are
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: super dangerous, right?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: And the Zionists were like, no, we're going to get
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: money to Israel. Israel is the most important thing, Israeli nationalism,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: et cetera. So look, these guys have jumped the shark.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: And what I would say to like, Jewish brothers and
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: sisters who mean well, right? And who don't know all
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 4: of this history and don't know that, you know, they've,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: you know, because we all live in a different like bubble, right?
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: And they don't realize they're in a bubble. And in
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: that bubble, they've been taught over and over again for
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: the benefit of Israel. If there is no Israel, all
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: the Jews are going to die. If anyone criticizes Israel,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: all the Jews are going to die. And so they
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: believe it, but it's not true.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: It's not true. Nobody's looking to kill you. They're just
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: looking to have their own freedom. Can't you be pro-Israel
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: but be anti-Israeli government, anti-Netanyahu? Of course, of course. 63%
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: of Jewish Americans are that way, right?
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: They don't hate Israel. I don't hate it.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Like, I hate what Israel's doing, right? Israeli government. The
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: Israeli government.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: Although, look, we get into sensitive conversations, but the Israeli
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: people have to turn around, right? But we can leave
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: that aside for now. But the government's clearly doing something very,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: very wrong, right? But that doesn't mean that Israel can't exist,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: that Israel shouldn't be an independent and safe state.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: What's the right solution? It's obvious.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: Israel-Palestine. Both exist. Both are safe. Both are independent. Both
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: are real countries with militaries, and they control their own borders, etc.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 4: And what do we get when we say, can we
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: just get equality? We would just love equality, period.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: That would be.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: Amazing, right? They go, no, the Palestinians can't be trusted anymore.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: If they have a real government with a real military,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: they'll kill.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: All the Jews.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: That's because you're racist. And you keep saying, that's like,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: they'd be like, we can't free the slaves because they'll
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: kill all the masters. They'll kill all the white people.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: So when are you going to free them? I'm never
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: going to free them because they're the racist. No, you're
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: the racist, right? You're the one keeping the Palestinians.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Under your boot. You're not under their boot. Well, I justified.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: I justified because Palestinians are terrorists, and if we give
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: them their freedom, they'll kill us all because they're savages. No,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: you don't sound normal. You sound like a weirdo, really
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: problematic racist person. And so, look, for the folks who
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: are good people, so are there even good Zionists? So
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: some on the left might say, hey, Cenk, no, no,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: Zionism is nationalism.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: It's wrong, et cetera. I get it.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: But the people themselves, the overwhelming majority of people who
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: are Jewish Zionists, right? They don't know that they think
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: they're doing the right thing. So even though I'm speaking
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: really harshly about it, what I, what I'm trying to
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: do is like shake them out of it. Like, I
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: know you could be better than that. I know you
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: don't want to be racist. I know you don't think
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: of yourself as racist, but your actions are deeply, deeply racist.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: And so I'm trying to get you out of that hole. Like,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 4: So can Israel be a normal nation in the world?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 4: Of course it can, right? Can Zionists realize, oh, maybe
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: I shouldn't hate everyone else under the pretense of being
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: their victim?
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Right. But they got to get out of the mindset.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: They really think they're the victims. Are you insane? I
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: just remember before October 7th. When you had so many
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: Israelis taking to the streets protesting against Netanyahu. Right. And
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: he was facing criminal charges. So I'm just like, that's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: what I remember. So there has to be that same
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: group of people that exist there now that don't like Netanyahu. Yeah.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, look, Israeli press actually does a pretty good job.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: So and and they broke a story about how Netanyahu
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: knew about October 7th.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, I saw that.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton said that too.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: I've got IDF soldiers on tape that we showed on
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: The Young Turks saying we got a stand down order.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: I got Charlie Kirk on tape before he, like just
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: five days after October 7th. He's on Patrick B.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: David's show.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: And he says, I've been to Israel. It's a 45
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 4: minute helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the border. And they
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: couldn't get the IDF there in six to seven hours.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: Like the biggest, baddest military in the world, theoretically. and
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: you couldn't find a way to the border in under
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: seven hours?
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Nah, nah, nah, nah.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: And then afterwards, they're like, oh, look at that.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: We are victims.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: We will now go and take 70% of Gaza and
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: destroy the West Bank and take southern Lebanon and take
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: southern Syria. And we'll get all of our dogs on
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: cable news to go, they are the victims, self-defense, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: Hey, bitch, look at the map. Look at the map.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: Did Lebanon invade Israel or did Israel invade southern Lebanon?
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: And do they have their tanks in southern Lebanon right now?
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 4: Have they destroyed Christian villages? Muslim villages and taking them over.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: They have, they have.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: And yet every cable news liar is out there going like, oh,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: I can't tell. I think the Palestinians might be terrorists.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: Muslims bad, Arabs bad, right? I ran into a random
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: Arab guy in the street today and he says, hey,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: thanks for doing what you do and stuff. He says, look,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 4: I'm a CEO at this point because I've struggled through
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 4: so many things and I kept on fighting. But he's like,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't even realize how much I was being discriminated against.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: Like I knew it, but it's like you need to
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: ask a fish How's the water?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: They go, what water? Because they're so used to it, right?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: He's like, I lived with discrimination so long as an
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: Arab American that I just got used to it. Like,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: I just thought it was normal that if I'm going
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: for a job, they're going to assume that I'm like
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: this or that, et cetera. I'm going to get way
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: more questions. And they're going to look at me like,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: are you a terrorist or whatever? And then I got
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: to get past that.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 13: Why?
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: Who poisoned the well? Mainstream media did. New York Times did.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: CNN did. I mean, they call, like, Tucker Carlson this
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 4: and that names, right? Tucker Carlson is better to Muslim
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: Americans than cable news guys are, better than New York
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: Times are. Every time they talk about Muslims in cable news,
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: they're criticizing him and painting them as dark and animalistic
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: and savages and terrorists.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sick of that. I'm just sick of it. Aren't
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: I allowed to be sick of it?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: Or is it only people who are in favor of
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 4: Israel that get to claim victimhood, right? and i'm not
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: even claiming victimhood i'm just saying man can i be
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: free remember those signs of civil rights movement all it
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: said was i am a man like i'd kinda want
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: to carry that around i am a man i'm an
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 4: american and treatment like an american treatment like uh... with
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: dignity and respect and and like i'm a free man
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: right all we get is not stop propaganda in favor
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: of israel against palestinians against arabs and now we're not
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: allowed to say free palestine Are we all forced to
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: say enslave Palestine? What else are you going to make
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: us do?
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  Speaker 10: So I know we talked a bit about this this morning.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 10: It was breaking news early this morning via Puck News
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 10: that Jay-Z has chosen himself, according to multiple sources, we
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 10: don't know who these sources are, to be the Super
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 10: Bowl performer at this year's Super Bowl. They say he
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 10: was the more compelling. pick over a Miley Cyrus or
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 10: a Justin Bieber?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I can agree that he would be the
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: more compelling pick. And I think it would make all
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: the sense in the world because he's celebrating his 30-year
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: career this year, right? 30-year anniversary. 25-year anniversary of Blooper
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: and 10-year anniversary of 444. But I personally don't want
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: Jay-Z to do it because then it will feed all
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: the internet trolls, especially the ones who said Jay was
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: only going to do it because they couldn't find anybody
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: else for the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. That's why
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: you don't want him to do it? Why do you
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: care about that? Because... i don't want them to be
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: right okay what no i mean i don't think he's
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: gonna do it though i just think i believe it
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: when when rock nation announces it but i don't believe
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: i don't believe i would.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: Love for him to do it because i'm a whole
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: fan but like you said just his position i think
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: this would be the perfect year for him like everything
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: lines up and all these shows would be kind of
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: like his rehearsal for the super bowl but i mean because.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: You're talking about the scrutiny from his actual performance i don't.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: Don't give an F about the scrutiny. I'm just talking
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: about his, like, you know, he's been doing all these shows.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: It's kind of, for me, like the rehearsal for the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: main stage. It's almost like the practice for the big show.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: But y'all would be hype if he did it, though.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: Of course.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Of course. Of course. I mean, he's been the biggest
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: story in music because y'all can't keep y'all name out
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: of his mouth. You know, good, badder and different.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: They can't keep his name out of their mouth. that's
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: what I said you said.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: Y'all I said y'all can't keep his name keep his
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: name she.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 10: Just separating her like alright you know another big conversation
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 10: in music and I said this earlier and y'all gonna
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 10: scream I think him and Kanye being on that stage
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 10: together would be like a mic drop moment it would
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 10: be a mic drop moment y'all.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: Like Jewish owners are not going for that I know
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: him and Nas squashed that beef, but they got to
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: have a lot of conversations.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: But everything else would be self-critical.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: I know him and Nas squashed their beef when they
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: were going through it, but him and Kanye's a lot different.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: But how do we not know?
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 10: We didn't learn anything about that in the J &
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 10: A documentary.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: So how do we not know if they haven't been
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: having conversations?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not having any debates about something that we don't
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: even know if it's true or not.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: You're right.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: I don't even think that's happening. I don't think Jay
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: doing the Super Bowl. Damn. Can you call your people?
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, you work there. Can you just... Mr.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: That's not my department. So who posted it?
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: Or like, who said something? Because remember they said something
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: about Miley Cyrus.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: That's not your department.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: They posted something, then they deleted it. Who posted this?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: How do we get this information?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 10: So the post and delete allegedly of the Miley Cyrus
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 10: silhouette wasn't even verified as a real post. And then
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 10: Puck News is an online outlet that... They are who
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 10: broke the story that Drewski was doing SNL or is
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 10: doing SNL on November 7th.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: And that hasn't been shot down. So we believe that
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: to be true. Incredible story.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: So now they do this report in the middle of
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: the night the same way. So people are picking this up. Like,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: it's everywhere. It's all over every outlet, every news outlet
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: I think y'all getting Miley Cyrus. Okay? And y'all getting
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: that Dolly Parton tribute. And I'm going to be right
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: there singing 9 to 5 when Miley starts singing 9
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: to 5.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I love Miley.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: That's what y'all get.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think that's going to be it, too.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll tell you what I would want.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: Don't be mad at me.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: What you want?
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: I want Hov.
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  Speaker 5: Pause.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I want Hov to perform. But I don't think
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: we're going to get that. Like you said, it's going
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: to be Miley Cyrus.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I love Miley. Because Hov can't do no Dolly Parton.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: Party in the USA.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that you had to pause that is disgusting.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: I said I want Hov. I can see them clipping it.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: I want Hov. He want him, y'all. He want that man.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: See? That's crazy. That's the way he said it. He
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: said it like Beyonce 25 years ago. See? I want Hov.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 5: See?
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: And that's why I said Hov.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: You got to be in that line. DJ Envy says
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: he wants Hov.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: He wants Hov. Yeah. But we'll see.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 10: What happens because there has been no official debunking or
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 10: confirmation of this from Roc Nation, NFL, Super Bowl, anybody
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 10: at all.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: So this is all just speculated at this point.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Y'all getting Miley Cyrus. Get ready for that wrecking ball.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: Get ready for that Dolly Parton tribute. Get ready for
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: that boy in the USA.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: I was so excited for Miley before we thought it
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: was going to be Jay-Z.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Get ready for her daddy. Her daddy coming out. That's
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: what y'all getting. You might get some achy breaky heart.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Y'all getting Miley this year. Y'all deserve it.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: That was the latest.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Y'all been acting over Bad Bunny. Y'all getting this mayonnaise
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: Would you say.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 9: You want.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 3: We like her. Tell them what you want, Envy.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: What you want? I don't dislike her. I don't dislike Miley.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: That's all right. I'll barbecue in halftime then. That's all right.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: I watch Miley. I like the Super Bowl performance.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 10: Our whole energy shifted. Yeah, even talking about it being
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 10: Miley now.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: All right, y'all.
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• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: Morning, everybody.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: We are The Breakfast Club.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: We got a salute to Habib Gurr for joining us
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: this morning.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Salute to Habib Gurr, man. He's an Israeli journalist and
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: host of the Ask Habib Anything podcast. He was up
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: here talking about the Israeli-Palestine conflict and a bunch of
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: other stuff. And also salute to Cenk Uygur, co-host of
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: the online news show The Young Turks. Not just the co-host, man,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: the creator and founder of The Young Turks Network, so...
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Salute to both of them for coming up here this morning.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: And also salute to, of course, homecoming season is here. So,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: you know, this Friday I'll be at Hampton University's homecoming.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: I'll be DJing Strawberry Banks. I can't wait to see
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: you guys there. And then Saturday I'm going to be
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: in Texas, Texas Southern University. So my home, I love
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 2: homecoming season. I love going to each campus and touching
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: the students, talking to the students.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: And just being there.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: And it just so happened that my New York Giants
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: are playing the Texans this weekend.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: So I might even pull up to the game. What
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: a disgusting game that's going to be. Hey, yo, salute
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: to them young girls, too, at Howard University, man. Why
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: y'all out there playing F. Mary Kill with unks, man?
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: Man, that video was funny.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: Why are they doing F Marry Kill with our old asses?
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: What's the young lady name? What's her name? Her name
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: on Instagram is Edwin. She calls herself Edwin on Instagram.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know her real name, but I know she
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: plays this.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: Edwin on Instagram.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: The Angie Starr Show? Is that her name? Is Angie
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Starr her name?
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Angie Starr.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Angie Starr.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 10: Who was the one that just threw Envy in there?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 10: I don't know who that was. And they said, you
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 10: just want to bring up DJ Envy.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, listen. If I was y'all daddy, I would be
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: so mad at y'all. Okay? Playing F Marry Kill with
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: our old asses. We got daughters in college. Cut it out.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious, yo.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 3: And also, real quick, shout out to South Carolina State
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: Homecoming this weekend, too. It's ready to go up. It's
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: ready to be popping down there.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be out there Saturday.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be down in South Carolina.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: I sure am. I'm going to South Carolina State homecoming
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: for a second. Then I'm going to watch South Carolina
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: play Tennessee for a second. And then my guy's wife
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: is celebrating. You know what? I don't even know how
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: to say that. I don't know if that's a surprise.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: It might be a surprise. It is crazy. I didn't
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: say the name or nothing, but yeah, I'll be down
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: there this weekend. Jesus Christ.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 6: Yes. Oh, yeah, DJ.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. DJ Louie, if you're going to be DJing
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: at the South Carolina.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: State Home Conference.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's why you mentioned it. I ain't go to college.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: I forgot to say it.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 5: You're on my bed.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: Yo, they doing something dope at South Carolina State, too, man.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: The alumni, salute to DJ Shaquem and my guy DJ D-Nice.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: They got a 90s house party. And they got Kid
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: N Play performing. They got Full Force performing. And it's
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: going to be in a house? I don't know if
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: it's in a house. And they got Tisha Campbell and
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: AJ Johnson hosting it. Oh, that's dope. What the fuck? Oh,
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: my God.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: From Kid N Play?
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: Yes. It's literally called a 90s house party. I don't
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: know where it's at. Louis V, you know where that's at?
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 3: He said, he don't know. He said, no, he got
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: a skate party with the DJ. He don't know what
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: I said.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, okay.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: Shout out to AJ Johnson. I love her.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: But that's why I love Homecoming.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: That's why, because people party.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: They have good times. Charlayne, you going to go out? Like,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: you going to be in the mix?
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: He going out. I'm going to the game. I'm going
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: to tailgate with my other mother, Miss Brevard. Salute to
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: Miss Nicole Brevard. I'm going to go out there and
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: tailgate with them for a little bit. Then I'm going
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: to go to the game. And then I'm going to
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: go up to Columbia.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: All y'all like to do is go to homecomings and
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: talk about everybody that's getting big anyway. That's all y'all
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: like to do. They all leave homecoming and be like, damn,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: such and such getting big. That's all y'all be wanting
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: to do at the homecoming.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: With all this GLP going around, they're going to be
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: talking about everybody getting small.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy. Hey, Charlamagne, you got a positive note?
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: Before we get to that, I have shows in Bridgeport,
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: Connecticut this weekend, so get your tickets. If you're going
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: to be out in Bridgeport, Connecticut, we got four shows
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: at the Stress Factory. Next weekend is Halloween weekend. I'm
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: going to be in Birmingham, Alabama. I'll be at Stardome,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 3: so get your tickets for those shows at justhilariousofficial.com.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: That's right. Positive note? Yes, the positive note, man. Fall
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: in love with the process, and the results will follow, okay?
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: Average people want results. Winners want the process. If you
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: only love the outcome, you'll quit when it gets hard.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: If you love to grind, you'll outlast everyone. Fall in
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: love with the work. The results take care of themselves. Salute.
• 1:41:56
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• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: You all finished or you all done? Woke up, woke up,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program your alarm
• 1:42:05
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