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Episode 28 Draft Fallout and Backlash 2023 Predictions !!! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

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Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Least Requested, Leaf Demanded and the Leaf
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Welcome to another episode of pc W. I am your host, Wayne,
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you can call me semi dry chicken, and let me bring out my co
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host ran with the new music. Yeah yeah, what a dude. Pc
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W crew, New year, new music. Alright, alright it hands do
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Oh it's me, It's me. It's the d y l E. And
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let me tell you, I am so glad to be talking about sports entertainment
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because real sports has been shifting all over me lately. So let's talk some
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progress. L Yeah. But you know what, guys, we got a
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surprise guest. Oh yes we do. Returning to the show, time the
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game, Time to playing the game. It's all about the game about take
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it. Welcome back, Carlos, Hey, what's going on? Thanks for
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having me back. Yeah, man, I feel like you're about to give
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us some draft picks. When I heard that theme music hit, Yeah yeah,
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I know, well, you know what, guys, the draft is
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over. It's finally over, and you know what, it was not so
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exciting. Uh. A lot of the drafts were very predictable. I mean
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we we saw championships change shows, which we knew was gonna happen. Well,
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champions change shows. Um, I kind of figured Roman would probably go
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to SmackDown. We will, we'll talk about the World Heavyweight title then.
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Uh, but I mean the women's titles changing shows, we kind of saw
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that coming. We knew that shocker. The intercontinentally nice states change shows.
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Oh god, didn't see that one coming. Um, you know, couples
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go together, the street profits with wherever Bianca bell ergo is, montes Ford
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is, you know, to follow, same thing with Becky Lynch, and
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you know seth rollins. I mean, so some of these were kind of
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predictable. But I'm just gonna I'm just gonna ran right now because this bothered
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me from the get go Free agents. What the fuck we talked about?
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How are they going to keep these rosters separated? Are we going to actually
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see raw wrestlers stay on raw, SmackDown wrestlers stay on SmackDown. We know
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this will take effect after backlash this weekend. You know, and Triple H
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didn't announce that brock Lessner is a free agent where he could go from brand
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to brand. Okay, I understand brock Lesner. I get it, he's
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too big for one brand. Sure, whatever Brock does, whatever the fuck
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Brock wants to do. But the other guys that that become free agents,
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uh, free agents here? Let me let me list off here some of
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these these these guys that got uh the same kind of contract. I guess
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you could say, you know, they negotiate their contracts. Baron Corbin,
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who, by the way, Baron Corban just picked up his first win since
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November November beat Rick Boogs and he got a massive pop for it. Uh.
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I don't know if anybody has seen it floating around online, but massive
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pop. Yep. He's over like over in Paris, right right. Uh,
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this doesn't make sense. Cedric Alexander and Shelton Benjamin can't put them on
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SmackDown. So the free agents, you know, a Dolph Siggler, a
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lies Mustafa Ali, you know those guys, especially Dolph Szigler. Dolph Sigler
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is a work course, I you know, I guess realistically, it's to
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make these these guys are workhorses that are willing to work both shows and be
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on the road. I mean that's how I see it. I see it.
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These guys are on the road, are going to be on the road
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board. Um, whether it's dark, you know, it's dark matches,
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you know, how shows whatever. Um calling up from NXT von Wagner uh
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zion zion Zilon lee zion zion lee zion quinn i fantasy, I pronounce it
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um. So you know, imagine getting called up from NXT to be a
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free agent um, and then the base one oh Moss with MVP free agent.
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So you know, not only do they do this ridiculous free agent thing
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and then they don't even like so they go through all the ragging worlds,
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they at least mention these people that they're not apparently going to draft to either
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brand. When they don't even mention shouldn't Alexa Bliss, They don't even mention
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Randy Orton, uh, And I mean, who knows what's going on with
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him? But like Alexa is somebody that's been on our TV pretty recently anyway,
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and we're don't even mention her, you know, there's a list of
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as dump people who hum. Yeah, there's a list of people who are
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who aren't even on there because they're on the injured list. Like you have,
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I have the list here, we have Champa, Our Truth, Aliyah
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Logan, Paul Robert Rude. Now some are out for injuries, some are
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out for Carmela is having a baby, so that's why she's out. Understandable,
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Biggie, Randy Orton, Alexa Bliss like you said, and Bray Wyatt
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and The New Day. The New Day got drafted and they haven't mentioned BIGI
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Yeah. Yeah, in fact, they kind of went out of their way
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to not mention Biggie and kind of weird. Sure, but as dumb as
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it seen as it all is, and I agree it is. The free
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agent concept is kind of dumb. When you look at the names and all
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of them, you can there's legitimate, well not KFA, but legitimate non
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KFA reasons for these people. Wise less, they're a free agent because he's
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a big name part timer and they're basically gonna call him up whenever they need
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him for whatever. So you don't want to limit him to just raw SmackDown
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all these other and outside of Brock, flessler Omas and Elias Mustafa all these
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other people, what are they all basically jobbers? They're jobbers with no direction.
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They ain't got shit to do with their characters. They basically, as
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much as I hate to say it, aren't worth a draft pick. So
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they're just basically jobbers. So, hey, we need y'all to go on
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this show and lose to these people. Okay, cool, that's all the
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free agents and all the people who were not named. Huh. And all
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the people who are not named are basically people who are out injured, yeah,
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or or full part timers like Johnson or Logan Paul. Yeah. So
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what happens when Alexa Bliss comes back? Did we have to have like a
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supplemental draft? She'll just come back in no, you know how they'll do
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it. She'll come back and they'll say she signed a contract with so and
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so. Oh. Yeah, it's so ridiculous that they sometimes they're so stringent
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about the rules and all of the times throwing the fun out the window's and
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if you don't like it, you need to go start your own wrestling league,
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like Tony cohnns like of us literally had a match with Brock Lesner at
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WrestleMania, and he's on this pay per view card against Seth Rollins. This
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guy is considered a free agent, like he's he's either he's too good to
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be on either show or he's not good at all to be like nobody wanted
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him. And if absolutely the latter, what the action does he have?
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Other all he does is squashed no names and lose to people with names.
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M M. Yeah, and don't like you were talking about last person drafts.
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I guess you can put Baron Cordman out there, right, I mean
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as a free agent, these are considered last picks. Yeah, they're all
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jobbers, all fucking jobbers. Almost is a guy that I think I could
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stand to go down to NXT for a little while, right, Yeah,
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Yeah, they should uh make NXT like they do over there across the pond.
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For soccer, if a team is at the very bottom, then they
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get relegated to the lower tier. So they shouldn't make that where like the
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free age gents or the jobbers and aren't cutting it get relegated to NXT and
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they have to build themselves back up to make it to the main roster.
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That's kind of a fun idea, Yeah, and were a good interesting ideas.
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Yeah. Systems and wrestling never worked. Yeah, right. Um,
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speaking of NXT this year, I was, I think this is the most
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NXT callegs we've had. Um, eighteen wrestlers from NXT. Now I'll go
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through the list here, but eighteen that's a lot sean yeah, right right,
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Like, they not only took the tag team champions, the women's tag
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team, they took the women's champion. But I'm gonna go through this list.
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We got Indi Hartwell who did have to give up her NXT Women's title,
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which I thought was kind of weird because they normally don't do that.
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But she's also out with an injury right now. Apollo Cruise who went back
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down to NXT, but now he's coming back up to the main roster.
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J D mcdonnan, Zoe Stark, Katana Chouns with Caden Carter as a tag
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team. Inda Sheer, Jinder Mahal former world heavyweight champion by the way,
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who won his world title at Backlash against Randy Or and he'll be coming with
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Veer and Vier Mahan and Sana Odyssey, Jones, Alba Fry and East Ladn
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as a tag team pretty deadly as a tag team. Cameron Grimes, who
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hasn't been on NXT in a hot minute, and Grayson Waller. I mean,
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that's a that's a lot of NXC guys. But you notice Broun Breaker,
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long running NXT recent, long running an exec champion not on the list,
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And that's probably more surprising than anything is the fact that he was not
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called up, because I'm pretty sure everybody expected him to be one of the
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first people to get called up from NXT. After the run, Nay said,
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yeah, I'm like, one of the only surprises really of the evening
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it was that she didn't get drafted. Sean just like, please let me
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just keep one of them, let me just keep broad at least, God
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damn. But yeah, they got post hard So I'm kind of interested to
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see, uh, you know who on the current n XT roster can now
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kind of move up and get a little more TV time. What new wrestlers
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did they have from the performance center coming through, Because sometimes you you'll hear
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about like, oh they signed so and so to the Performance Center. I
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haven't heard a lot of sign ups right now. They're on a hiring freeze,
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so they're not allowed to hire any more current wrestlers. Uh, Mickey
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James's husband when it was supposed to be coming over and he eventually ended up
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going to Impact Wrestling because they're they're not hiring any more superstars. Um so
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yeah, an XT, he's gonna look kind of bare for the next you
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know, a couple of months, so it'll be it'll be interesting. Well,
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don't they have a number of people that we've never even seen on television
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that are just under contract, We're just in development or whatever they call it,
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like exactly, so, I mean they got time to put some of
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them in front of the camera and see what right exactly right, like they
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poaching all these people. Yeah, it may look bad for NXT on the
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surface until you think about how deep their roster is. Really, all they've
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done is just free up space for some of these newer people to finally get
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on TV and start to make names for themselves. M Well, we'll talk
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some of these odd odd choices for the way the draft, I guess should
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say the way the draft goes. Okay, we're talking about an off air
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a little bit, but so Ria Ripley gets drafted. But then the rest
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of the judgment day gets drafted later to the same roster. We didn't have
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any tag teams break up, we didn't have any stables break up, but
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yet they were drafted separately, Like why would you not? Just like,
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I feel like it's so stupid to waste a draft pick and not just draft
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them together. And they they also did that, Um the blood Line they
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did that with them too. I mean draft, I get it, maybe
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the factor of oh, the Ussos might not be on the same brand as
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Roman, but like, I don't know, it's showing cracks in the foundation
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with with them being drafted separately. There's been a lot of tension within the
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blood line. And you know Roman hasn't as they say, Roman hasn't contacted
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any of the Ussos since WrestleMania. So, you know, I just pictured
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in my head, you know, the usso's trying to contact Roman constantly,
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just like you know, dear Roman, I texted you, but you still
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ain't calling. I tried reaching out on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook and TikTok
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if I feel like you got me blocked. You know, it just seems
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like they haven't been able to get to get a hold of Roman at all.
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Uh, you know, I don't know what other odd draft picks did.
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You guys think we're kind of kind of weird the way they went about
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him. What was that Teddy Long represented Raw one night and smack Down the
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next night? Like what what you should if he's gonna be I get it.
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If they're gonna have him both nights, fine, but why not have
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him read for the same brand each time? Like there's not even a veil
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of of k fabe here. It's all just purely ridiculous. Like I wish
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they were just saying, like, hey, guess what on May whatever it
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is, we're gonna have different rosters and the story like, well, I
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go through all this this hoop law and ricam roll, it makes no sense.
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I was also disappointed that Teddy Long didn't just do like a joke on
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JBL and say that he had to face the Undertaker, yes, one on
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one, or he would draft the Undertaker, and then somebody comes out present
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him like, hey he's been he's been retired for a couple of years now,
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so you can't draft him. But I think I heard a rumor that
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Rick Flair was supposed to be on one of the Knights to do some of
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the drafts and maybe that's why that they had him on to two nights in
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a row. Um it as possible. I mean, I was an idpression
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Flair was in the doghouse because um he went off script during the Hall of
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Fame ceremony. Not Rick Flair. He's believe he put himself moreover than he
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did Muda. I think it's the thing. M So the flare away,
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huh, and he mentioned I mean, honestly, overall the draft itself there,
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as you said before, there really was very little surprised to any of
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it. All these picks were for as much as they hyped up the thing,
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and like you know, shake the foundation of the WWE and everybody's eligible
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and all this is that thirtaining create this suspense as if we're actually going to
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see things of consequence, and nothing of any real significance happened. Like you
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said, they switched the inter Continental in US titles, which we all kind
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of saw happening because Gunter seems more primed for a push to the next level
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than theory. They switched the Raw and SmackDown champions Byankin Rea Ripley. That
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was a bit surprising to me, a bit I'll give it that that was
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probably one thing that surprisedly when they announce on their card. No, no,
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none of us had that. Like when they announced Bianca going to SmackDown.
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Yeah, I was legitimately surprised, But at the same time, I
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also immediately knew that the street profits were gonna go over there because, like
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we said, the whole concept of keeping married couples together, which again makes
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sense, but other than that, you look down all the picks and these
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are run of the mill, nothing of real consequence or real, real major
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impact. It kind of almost seems like they damned their wholesale swapped Raw and
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SmackDown as a whole. As far as at the top, right, you
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know, Bianca, Bobby Lashley, you know Edge, A lot of the
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top people from smack Raw just went over the SmackDown, and then a lot
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of the top people on SmackDown went over the Raw, and most of the
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mid carters kind of stayed the same. Well, here's the thing, they've
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been paying so little attention to this brand split like people, a lot of
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people got drafted where they were originally, but you didn't remember that because who
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the fuck could keep track of who was anywhere, you know, like Rawlins
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has been on Raw this whole time. I guess that makes sense. He
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stays the Bloodlines and SmackDown. But they've been all over the place, so
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they're staying where they were. Uh, Cody's staying on Raw even though he's
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been on both shows all the time. Uh uh. The LWO has been
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on both shows all the time, but they're on SmackDown, which is where
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they stayed, you know, Um no Raw, yes, uh the l
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no Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right. That's another one, like a huge
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stable including Raymond Stereo didn't like people in one draft pick. Yeah, why
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would you not put them like higher up? You know, you get a
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Hall of Famer, a real good mid card guy, two goobers, and
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a really good female like and then they lose. Yeah, I mean they've
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been losing every since they formed this this stable. So but even though they're
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one of their top merg seller sellers right now, top mer sellers, which
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the shirts are flying off the fucking shelves. Yeah, they get a good
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pop every time they show up, yep, and then you'll have them to
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lose all the damn times. But they're also fighting the top here, you
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know, the guy getting the most heel heat, So like, okay,
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be over, if they're fighting the biggest heal, they don't get nobody's saying
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they have to come out on top completely. But there should at least be
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some back and forth, especially especially given that you've basically that they're splitting now
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supposedly after Backlash because Judgment days on Raw and LW's on SmackDown. So they
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just beat these guys pretty much got their shit kicked in for a month and
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a half or a month and then we don't get a final resolutional from it,
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or maybe yet, maybe they'll get their final win at Backlash, who
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knows, what have you. But there should have been more back and forth
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between though, to at least try to give LWO a little bit more credibility
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and you know, take advantage of this pop and this merchandise that they moved
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them for y'all. Well, I think it's getting ahead of ourselves. But
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I think Backlash is gonna end with a bunch of people in LWO shirts celebrating.
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So let's not say that they're not gonna get a big win because I
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think even though I guess technically it wouldn't be, but yeah, Yeah,
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that's what I said. I mean, they might get they'll be there win,
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They'll be there, They'll be by proxy. They'll be there by proxy
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because they're going to be standing there. Yeah. Yeah, like I said,
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they might get the win then, but still going into it, there
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should have been more back and forth between these two. No, I agree,
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Yeah, but then Judgment Day never wins either. It doesn't feel like
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they need it will. Seems like Rhea is the only one that wins.
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Yeah. So like when she got drafted, I was like, oh,
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cool, they're finally gonna split her apart because she you know, you know,
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Finn is a goof and and Dom is shit on the mic, whether
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you agree or not, and Damian Priest isn't doing as hot either on the
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mic, neither of them. Yeah, I mean I was kind of hoping
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that just from Day would have broken up, but no, nobody broke up.
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Maybe they'll break up on that roster. Who knows some of these groups,
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But well, I mean, I think some of those factions deserve a
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story, whether break you know, deserve a breakup story, not not just
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to be haphatz really broken up in the draft. Agree with that you could
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have done that an Alpha Academy maybe, and that would have been fine.
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But like you know, Judgment Day's been around for a while, a year,
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and at this point, you know, like they deserve more than just
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Okay, you guys have done now. Yeah, I agree, like a
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faction should just deserves to be broken up with some sort of storyline tag teams.
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However, you can split them, motherfucker's well. I mean, I
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don't know that I want them to split the Street Profits. I think I
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not split the Street Profits. I think I want a story there. I
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don't I don't know if I want to just see them go, oh,
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let's go our separate ways, okay, buddy, seeing down the road.
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You know, like I kind of want them to go after each other.
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I would have been good with them getting to split. They kind of teased
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the possibility of it going into the draft a lot, right. I would
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have been happy. I would have been perfect. They did it with Alpha
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Academy and Street Profits, and honestly, I think it would have been better
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for them both to split and just you know, let them have their final
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farewells and like, hey, no, maybe one last match for the Road
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that night. I think that could have been better storytell like, damn,
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we've been split, I buck fuck it, we don't have one last match
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here, all raw, you know we're gonna go out all top of go
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out would have dubbed and you know, let them get there, they're they're
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there, a good farewell that would have been at least good for the show,
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and then send them on their way. That's to me, that's good
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enough because they don't need much of a storyline to it unless you're gonna pit
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them against each other, and if you're splitting them up, obviously that's not
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gonna happen. Yeah. You could have also probably had like some stipulations for
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some of these tank teams where if they don't win the title or if they
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like their last chance, then they get split up or something like that and
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make it make it seem like it more heartbreaking when they have to break up.
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Right now, speaking of titles, how do you guys feel like they're
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gonna handle the tag titles like or do you think we'll get those titles actually
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split? Do you think that they'll uh like merge those two titles and then
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we'll get like a whole new set of tag titles on the other show the
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same with you know, romance titles like will they eventually you know, combine
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the WWE and Universal and we'll have one title on that show. Are we
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going to keep this three title bullshit? Yet another thing that they did in
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this draft that made no sense, like not not only did they everything is
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supposed to be exclusive now, So now your tag team champions are exclusive to
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SmackDown even though they have quote unquote both belts. Are you going to force
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them to relinquish the Raw belts because they're exclusively SmackDown? What are you gonna
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do the women's tag team? They're exclusive to what Raw now? Right?
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Live in um yes, live in Raquel. They're bow exclusives. So are
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they defending those only on Raw? Are they? They'll SmackDown? Have to
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get new their own tag team titles? That ain't gonna That don't sound like
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a good idea because you barely do anything with your tag titles that they got
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now, let alone try to manage two of them, which is another reason
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why they should have brought in some goddamn made car titles. I'm gonna keep
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banging that table. But they did not solve a single one of their of
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their of their title problems with this draft. Now, sorry, I think
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we're done. Oh okay, I'm done. I didn't watch SmackDown. Did
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Alba Fire and that other girl lose the titles or did they still have them?
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I'm not sure. I still think they have them. Um X.
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Yeah, so I was like called open the belts, yeah because things.
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Yeah, I was like, they're gonna be made turned into like the SmackDown
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tag titles, and then that I would yeah, we won't have tag titles
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and NXT no more because literally you just post all the tag teams in there,
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so like, are you just gonna make those the SmackDown tag titles and
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then we'll have two women's tag titles? Like sure, like double up on
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the problem, like you barely had enough tag teams before and storylines and feuds,
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but like let's double up now, right, And arth the NXT Tag
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champions facing the number one contenders and didn't all four of those women get drafted
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to the roster. Yeah four of them got all right, So so what
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the hell is the point of the of the of the tag title match?
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If that? I don't know if it happened already or not, but that
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was yeah, but the hell was the point of that we have people fighting
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for a belt that is meaningless, essentially meaningless to all of them. Has
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the title picture in w w E ever been so, you know, like
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coming out of this new title, uh, this new title and production and
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the draft, I feel like we should have not be coming out with more
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questions than answers at it, you know, and it's just like, what
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the fuck is going on? Are there three world titles now? Like?
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Roman can't be the undisputed champion anymore? Kenny uh that that WWE championship that
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he has says World's Heavyweight Champion on it that they're calling his other title,
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so that doesn't make any sense. Uh. Um, here's here's I have
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a proposal though, for the women's belts, we should call them something other
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than the Raw and SmackDown Women's Championship. I'm not sure what you want to
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call them. Uh, But then you don't have to switch him over,
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if you know, like like like with the US and the Intercontinental, you
29:45
can just switch him over, like because now I'm you know, as the
29:49
resident uh uh title reign nerd. I'm concerned about Bianca's Raw Women's Championship title
29:57
reign, like is that end, and she's starting over with the SmackDown title
30:02
as at zero. Right, that's messy as hell, because yeah, that's
30:07
also messy because she's the Raw Women's champion where she got drafted. She cut
30:11
a little veal package saying SmackDown Women's Championship, she's defending the title against.
30:18
She's defending the Raw Women's Championship against a SmackDown competitive sky Yea Rio Ripley is
30:25
the SmackDown Woman's Champion defending the title against a SmackDown person and Zelena Vega,
30:32
but she's been drafted to Raw. We know, damn well, ain't neither
30:36
one of them gonna lose. Bianca ain't losing the EO, and Ria ain't
30:38
losing to um Zelena. So at the end of this they'll be locked on
30:44
their rosters with opposing belts. And they created this scenario that, at least
30:51
in the case of the women's titles, they could have solved that very very
30:55
easily by just having those two women on Raw this past week just swap titles.
31:02
It was that damn simple. It could have been a simple five minute,
31:07
right. It's been a stick of the simple five minute in ring segment
31:12
where these where you know, Adam Pierce caused both of them out. He
31:17
says, you know, y'all too YadA YadA, y'all got to swap the
31:18
belts. That's the solution. Happened, sure, but it should have been
31:23
done before yet yet. But that's the problem though, that's the problems.
31:32
That's why it should have happened. That's why it should have happened before,
31:34
because at least before you could have both of them on the same show and
31:38
done a segment like this. But after the payer view, supposedly they're lockeddown,
31:42
So how do you get those two in the ring at the same time
31:45
in order to do that belt swap. That's why it should have been done
31:49
beforehand. You could have you could have further teased the possibility of, you
31:53
know, a Bianco matched down. That's why, I mean, that's what
31:59
it's gonna end up being. It's gonna be like some WWE dot com exclusive
32:02
or some stupid YouTube video clip or or something that they do maybe backstage at
32:07
backlash after afterwards or whatever. But that's a waste, Like that's a perfectly
32:13
good segment that they could have done all raw this past week. Yeah,
32:16
but it also makes the card more predictable because just like you mentioned, like
32:22
you know that Ria is not going to lose to Selena, and then you
32:24
know that Bianca's not gonna lose to EO. So it's like, what's the
32:31
point, you know, you know what now I'm thinking about it out,
32:36
I would actually be Bianca could actually lose to the EO because they're is they're
32:42
on SmackDown, both of them, so that one could actually happen. But
32:45
okay, yeah, okay, then what happens EO becomes the Raw winners champion
32:51
all SmackDown, Well, then they could do the belt swap thing when Ria
32:54
retains and things like that. M I wish they were just no, it's
33:00
not happening, but it's a possibility. That one's more of a possibility.
33:04
Knowing how the way the draft to win, they should just make it where
33:08
champions are not included in the draft, like the Raw Women's champion is not
33:15
included in the draft, the SmackDown women Champion not included in the draft.
33:19
I understand the complications with the heavyweight titles and if the tag details were split,
33:22
like they just shouldn't be included in the draft. I think they've done
33:27
it before. Me were all limens, sure, and I hear that.
33:30
But the problem with that is when you have a guy like Gunter, who
33:34
you know is primed for the next level more so than Austin theory, and
33:37
you want to give Gunter more shine and put him in front of more eyes,
33:42
and you want to get them all raw, you gotta move them.
33:45
But if you just have him locked, you know, like, oh,
33:49
you know, champions are excluded, then he stuck on SmackDown. You don't
33:52
have any way of getting him the Raw unless he drops the title. And
33:54
if you drop, you don't want to kill this momentum that he has a
33:58
champion, especially if you have of you know, plans on him surpassing Honky
34:02
talk Man's record or such. You know that. So that's the problem with
34:07
excluding champions from the draft. Speaking of oh go ahead, Oh, I'm
34:15
just I wish they would just change the title the names of the Raw and
34:19
SmackDown Women's championships to call I don't know, call one the Global Champion and
34:24
the other one I don't know, the Continental Chance or whatever. I don't
34:29
care. That way, then they're not tied to a show. You don't
34:31
have. This fucking problem is now the second time, they're gonna have to
34:35
switch the women's titles because they switched the the champions. It's just like,
34:39
why I keep doing this to yourself? Why don't just call them something else
34:43
and then you don't have to worry about it up the lineage of the title
34:45
when you go or just not fucking yeah right, they just left him as
34:50
is and just not fucking swapped them. Could have left Bianco raw and left
34:54
real God damn Smack now says they were the champions. Yeah, exactly.
35:00
And the only reason why it seems like the only reason why they made that
35:01
switch is because they want to push Rhea. They want to build her up
35:07
as another top women's wrestler the same way they've done with Bianca for the last
35:13
year. And to do that, they need her in front of more faces,
35:15
which means but nour on Raw and as a compromise to SmackDown. Because
35:22
one thing we haven't talked about is that we know that part of these choices
35:29
involved WW negotiating back and forth with the networks with Fox and USA, so
35:35
and I'm sure they had to say in some of how these rosters were constructed
35:37
in terms of their interests and such like SmackDown, okay, and Fox,
35:43
Yeah, you get Roman Reigns, but he's a part time guy. So
35:47
as compensation for you having a world champion that's barely ever gonna be on television,
35:53
We're gonna load your roster up with more top tier talent. That's why
35:58
we see somebody like a Bianca Belair, who's one of the top women in
36:01
WWE, go over to SmackDown, while simultaneously you put Rhya, who's an
36:07
up and comer who is a champion, but it's still rising up in terms
36:09
of you know, popularity and being got that top talent. You put her
36:14
on raw in front of more faces and it works. So I mean and
36:17
from that ar from that standpoint, I get the decision, and it does
36:21
make sense. They just really should have handled the belts better. Well,
36:27
like why can't why can't a Kfabe version of that be the draft instead of
36:31
the draft? You know, like, what wouldn't it be more interesting to
36:35
have have Kabe, Fox and USA executives having those kinds? Yeah, like
36:40
if they so much more interesting? Yeah, it would have been hella interesting
36:44
if they'd gone like more inside football with it, where they took like actually
36:47
in the room. It had, like you said, k Fox and USA
36:51
executives negotiating back and forth and shouldn't actually take a page out of like,
36:54
you know, the actual NFL draft or take a page out of you know,
36:58
like ESPN. You know, like rather than just having like all these
37:01
backstage interviewers, you have make where the motherfuckers like a pseudo m Adam Schefter
37:07
type, you know, I got inside information about such and such you know
37:09
have They could have like a whiteboard on the wall. They could slide each
37:14
other envelopes and be like, well, here's my Oh, here's my counter
37:16
offer, you know what I mean, Right, rather than just having them
37:19
people just like just they're just to hold a mic for a wrestle to talk,
37:22
you know, Van Damn coming out and like you know, holding the
37:27
upside down. Yeah, I have like you know, have like Halo Braxton
37:30
on SmackDown saying, you know, I got some exclusive rumors about you know,
37:34
such and such. Yeah, I have heard literal report. You know,
37:37
I just breaking news. I just found out that so and so is
37:39
set to be you know, drafted this. We have to wait till Monday
37:43
night row to see you actually confirmed. But the rumor is right, now
37:45
that so and so is, you know, do a spoiler type thing beforehand
37:50
instead of just waiting it out. Yeah, they could have. They could
37:52
have done much better with this draft, had they really put more effort into
37:58
it. Yeah, and what's McAfee up too? That's like your sports guy,
38:01
isn't he on ESPN College Day a pregame thing? We could he just
38:07
use that guy for a couple of segments on doing what you just described.
38:10
Yeah, they could have. I mean, if they would, they probably
38:13
would have had to pay him for it, because Pat McAfee is very much
38:15
a independent free agent guy, like he works with WWE, but it's kind
38:22
of hard to say that he works for WWE, Like yeah, yeah,
38:27
yeah, he very had much as he very hatch can probably come and go
38:30
as he pleases. Well, guys, I have a clip here I want
38:36
to play from from Raw this week about the World Heavyweight title involving none other
38:44
than Paul Hayman and your tribal chief. I assure you we're all take care
38:53
of all business items, and one of them, as a bit of a
39:00
review, is that hunk of beautiful gold up on that podium right now?
39:09
Oh? Come on, wouldn't that title look relevant around the waist of your
39:20
tribal chief, Roman Brain. Here we are almost a thousand days to do
39:30
a historic title wing. Talk about all disputed, not one title, not
39:37
two titles, but three titles. You create a championship fad, Roman Rains
39:45
will dominate that title to the main event of WrestleMania, and of course now
39:53
Roman Reins can't compete for that title because Roman Reigns will not be here on
40:04
Monday Night Raw. You know, really is the worst about that is that
40:16
now all the children in the locker room who think that their men are running
40:22
around flapping their gums about your tribal chief, Roman Reign, people who should
40:34
know better, men who need to start acting like men, Men who are
40:42
freaking jokers, men who are freaking jokes, men who are freaking clowns,
40:52
who are still living off seth freaking rollins. Well, I thought it's kind
41:00
of funny mentioning the fact that, uh, you know, Roman Rains could
41:05
be holding that title around his waist, and right away the crowd did not
41:07
like that shit. I've seen so many memes like Roman Rains like holding like
41:15
every fucking title, but there's like, you know, I'm seeing it all
41:21
over the place that they're talking about how Roman Reins could be holding the world
41:23
title all the way to Rustamania, and now I'm seeing that he could be
41:29
safe all the way up to September of twenty twenty four. What the fuck
41:36
that guy's knowing that a certain wrestler is gonna be holding onto his title for
41:42
another year and a half takes the excitement out of it. It takes If
41:50
they want to go for the San Martino record, he'd have to hold until
41:52
Backlash of twenty twenty eight. I don't think they're going that far, but
41:55
they they I think they's a good strong possibility. They may want him to
42:00
pass Hok Holgan's record though, right right, But like okay, so from
42:07
now and now until then, like every pay per view, like all our
42:10
predictions, it's gonna be just Roman for the win, like like we won't
42:15
even need to discuss it, Like the feud is gonna be to me kind
42:19
of pointless because at the end of the day, you know Roman's gonna win
42:22
anyway. There's no there's no chance, there's no silver lining, there's no
42:27
like Cody could win this title, like Cody could legit be the guy to
42:30
beat Roman Organs, No, not no more. No. It's like their
42:35
solution is like, we're just gonna let him rack up these days a thousand
42:39
plus days and continue, but like nobody's able to beat him, so we're
42:44
just gonna create a whole other fucking title on another show. And that's exactly
42:49
what they fucking did. And you know, honestly, like, I fucking
42:54
hate the world title the way it looks. I'm not a fan of this
42:58
design. Some people love it. I've seen it on Twitter. There's like
43:02
nine out of ten people don't like it. But there's that one guy who's
43:06
like, oh, this is fucking beautiful. The huge w din the fucking
43:08
Center because heaven forbid, like they just had bring back the old big gold
43:13
Belt. You know, uh, you know that that's what I wanted,
43:16
That's what I was hoping for, and uh, you know the crowd.
43:20
The crowd reacted that way too when they shared that title, Like it looked
43:23
like not a lot of people were happy to see that. People were probably
43:27
expecting big Goldie. Um, Carlos, what this world title or or your
43:34
fan the older world title? I am If I had to choose between only
43:38
these two titles, then I'm a fan of the big Goldie, the WCW
43:45
World Heavyweight title. Hm. That one's just like, you know, it
43:50
just looks like a championship right. It doesn't look like anything like kind of
43:57
like, I don't want to say gimmicky, but the way that thing looks
44:01
to me, the newer belt, it looks like it's more of the face
44:07
is more of a like a championship ring. If you see all these like
44:10
team sports and you'll see the championship ring and you see that, that looks
44:15
like what a championship ring would look like in just to me, But everything
44:20
else is it's not impressive at all to me. And then I think the
44:25
W is like an Off Black or Matt Black and you can't even see it.
44:30
Yeah, and like when you see it bit golden, when you when
44:34
you see that old that big gold title, you automatically right away you start
44:38
thinking of the former champions who've held that title. You think of Edge,
44:43
you think of undertaking things, Batista, John Cena. And now you take
44:46
it back to to w c W days. You know obviously the Triple h
44:51
uh, you know Sting, you think of whole Cogen, you think of
44:55
you know, all those people, all those guys who've held that big Gold
45:00
belt. That's who that That's who I think of when I see that title.
45:02
Now when I see this title, I think of nobody could have beaten
45:07
Roman. This is a this is a pity prize, you know, the
45:13
second second place, this is what? That's what? Not even second third
45:16
place, because this is the third fucking heavyweight title, you know. Yep,
45:22
you're not wrong. Like WW has definitely paying themselves into a corner with
45:28
this new belt, because, like you said, the reaction to it has
45:30
very much been mixed. Some people like it, some people hated. M
45:36
Paul Haymond didn't do him any favors with that promo he cut on Monday Night
45:38
Raw. He basically damned there, practically buried the belt before anybody ever got
45:44
a chance to win it, making it already seemed like a consolation belt.
45:49
That's clearly the overwhelming narrative going happening online about the belt is that it's a
45:52
consolation type prize. Um as far as it's just a side step for me.
45:59
As far as how the belt looks, I'm not impressed with it.
46:02
Obviously, it's been to be a nod to old Big Gold and and such,
46:08
because we know how much of a how much of a fan Triple H
46:13
is of nWay and that thing. So hence why he you know, had
46:17
himself given the World Heavyweight title when they brought it back in two thousand and
46:21
three or whatever year, and why this new one is basically like a seems
46:24
like a modern revision of the two. Personally, I wouldn't have honestly,
46:29
I would have preferred just a whole new design. I don't like the fact
46:32
that this is kind of a somewhat of an updated kind of version of the
46:38
of the old World Heavwey Championship. It doesn't look good with that big WWE
46:43
logo in the middle. It's not it's not large enough, and like Carl
46:45
said, it doesn't stand out. It's not prominent. Being that I'm assuming
46:50
it's like a silver or just a polished looking in contrasting with the gold.
46:53
It doesn't stick out enough, like it probably could have used some maybe some
46:59
black or something in there just to help the logo itself stand out. It
47:02
doesn't look that great, does Damsel doesn't look as good as Big Gold.
47:07
I would not have wanted them to bring back Big Gold. I'm thinking that
47:10
I'm of the mindset that let those old belts stay where they are. They're
47:15
old bolts, belts, they have legacies. If you're gonna start something new,
47:19
create a new belt. So give them credit for creating a new belt.
47:23
But this wasn't the best design for it. And as it stands now,
47:30
they've kind of, like I said, they've paid themselves into a corner
47:31
of trying to of how do they make this belt have any kind of credibility?
47:37
And I think because of where the belt, how the belt is being
47:42
viewed by people, and the position that that belt is starting from, I
47:47
think there's it. Maybe jumping ahead a little bit, I think there's only
47:51
one person in the entire raw roster who can win that belt and have any
47:55
chance of giving it any kind of credibility, and that's Seth Rollins. I
48:01
think he's the only person that you can put that belt on and have any
48:06
chance of giving that belt any credibility because Seth Rollins, the one thing that
48:09
he has over anybody else is that he can make the argument that Roman Rains
48:15
has been ducking him because the last time they faced Roman Rains didn't pin him.
48:21
He got himself dqed. If I'm not mistaken to hold on to the
48:24
title, and he hasn't faced Rollins since, So Rollins can sit there and
48:30
held the title and say that Nabich I ain't no secondary champion, I ain't
48:36
no consolation champion. I'm the guy that you're afraid to face. I'm the
48:39
guy that you couldn't pen. You know what I'm saying. So you know
48:44
you come get it. If you really think you have any dreams of holding
48:47
all three belts, come see me about this belt. And we know you
48:52
ain't gonna do that because you've been ducking me for the last two years.
48:54
So he's the only person and that I see on that ross that they can
49:00
do that with your damn soul. Can't put that belt on Cody now,
49:04
not after, not after WrestleMania, not after all that build up. Y'all
49:08
did the WrestleMania just to have him lose and then y'all gonna give him this.
49:12
That's pretty much set in stone that that belt is a consolation prize.
49:20
So the fuck what Roman beat Rob It's still it still feels like, yeah,
49:27
a consolation prize, Like you weren't good enough to beat Roman, So
49:30
we're just gonna give you this third place trophy, that's what feels like.
49:35
Um yeah, speaking of you know, this world title, let's talk about
49:38
who we think runner ups because they're gonna have a tournament. Uh. You
49:44
know, I asked you guys to pick three wrestlers on the raw roster who
49:49
you think could end up being the next world champion. Uh drey, I
49:52
want I want to start with you, like three wrestlers on the raw roster.
49:58
Well, I just gave my answ to me. There's only one ye
50:01
Seth Rollins. Seth after after what happened after the Monday Night Raw and the
50:07
promo that Paul Hayman cut, basically undermining the belt before anybody had a chance
50:12
to get it, There's only one option in my opinion, and it's Seth
50:15
Rollins Cool nobody else, I think? Can can you give that belt any
50:21
credibility? Do? Well? Um yeah, as far as the belts go,
50:28
uh, given the given the choice between the new belt or the like
50:34
the Universal or either of Roman Rains belts, I like the new one better.
50:37
I hate the Roman Ragins belts. But it's all about marketing. You're
50:42
never gonna have another WWE championship belt that doesn't have that logo huge on it
50:47
because they're giving it to the fucking Super Bowl champion now the men, and
50:52
he wins the you know, they're giving it to Patrick Mahomes a minute,
50:54
that game's over and he's running, and which belt do you want? You
50:59
want the one Roman Raines has, right, regardless of one, it looks
51:01
like, but you're gonna have the one. But they're gonna take that and
51:06
because of that, it's always gonna have w W gave him that belt.
51:08
I thought that was just kind of like an inside thing that the Chiefs did
51:13
because no Hunter everybody every single sport, whoever wins the NBA title a lot.
51:22
Yeah, it's like Hunter sends it to every all the major sports teams.
51:27
Okay, yeah, that's a thing they actively do because they want the
51:31
champions sitting there holding their thing, and that's why that logo is always gonna
51:36
be huge. But yeah, Drey, you're absolutely right about seth rawlins h
51:39
for all you basically it's like you copied my paper. Yeah, I mean,
51:45
he's the only person that has the gravitas to fucking dig the hole they
51:51
dug themselves, well, to undig the hole they dug with this new championship.
51:57
Um, yeah, I think it's absolutely at lea seth Rawlins. Uh.
52:00
I don't think it's Cody of course. Uh. And Cody's story specifically
52:06
is for the WWE Championship and his father couldn't win, right, so this
52:12
doesn't really do anything for him. But other than if it's not Seth,
52:15
say seth Rawlins gets struck by lightning tomorrow, we have to pivot. Uh.
52:22
I would look at Nakamura maybe, uh, or even Gunther if you
52:25
want to, if if you think it's time to to level him up officially.
52:31
Um, but yeah, I think it'll be Seth Rollins. I think
52:36
I think that's super obvious. Yeah, it's more interesting questions What the fuck
52:43
does Roman walk around with two belts? Still? Are they still? Will
52:47
they ever be defended separately? Are they going to combine that into a new
52:52
championship? Uh? What's the leaionship this new championship gonna be? Are they
52:57
gonna take it back to the old We're twa championship or they just gonna start
53:01
fresh day one with the new idiot? Like, I don't know what's going
53:06
on with that. They kind of gotta give him one belt, right,
53:07
now right, Like, he's gonna look stupid if he's still walking around with
53:10
two belts knowing damn well, he ain't defending. Yeah, they made one
53:15
of those individually. Yeah, yeah, they could have so easily gotten themselves
53:22
out of them. They painted themselves into the stupid corner. And now they
53:25
now they've got three belts and they and they did used to have three belts.
53:30
Remember they had the ww ec W Championship for a while, but they
53:34
as had three, three different shows, and they don't have that anymore.
53:37
Yeah, it doesn't make anything. Should they should just consolidate and just called
53:42
the w W Championship again, just dropped the universal. I agree, I've
53:45
always hated that. Yeah, the Universal never really sounded incredible. No,
53:51
hell now, okay whatever Carlos, well, are you thinking the same thing,
53:58
Seth Frickin Rollins, Well, he is my number one, like overall
54:02
choice to you know, win this tournament. But you can make arguments for
54:07
like Drew McIntyre, Yes, as he's gonna finally get his run at it
54:13
now that he's separated from Shamus and the rest of the brawling brutes. And
54:20
then my other one that I was thinking of is what if we get a
54:28
way to separate the Raw and the SmackDown Tag Team champions by having Kevin Owens
54:34
betray Sammy Zan again in the tournament and then causing that breakup once again.
54:40
That's so possible. That is so possible, because I mean, that's the
54:45
only way you're gonna be able to do it, because yeah, you have
54:49
to you have to get those belts separated. Oh sorry about that, guys,
54:55
or else they're not going to be able to go and have those else
55:00
defended in uh in Japan or not Japan and Saudi right, yeah, exactly.
55:06
And you know what, as much as I'm so happy that both of
55:08
these guys are attacked from champions, but they they finished the story unlike Cody
55:15
Rhodes. They finished the story. They won at the main event at WrestleMania.
55:21
They won the tag team titles finally. So yeah, when when they
55:23
dropped them, I'm totally down to see them out of the tag team division.
55:28
We have so many other tag teams. I want to see Kevin Owen's
55:30
hold gold again, big goal like have you know as a singles competitor,
55:37
and and Sammy'sane possibly get his first Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't
55:42
believe I didn't think of it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, obviously
55:45
for me too. It's the same as Seth freaking Rollins, I agree,
55:49
Carlos and Drew McIntyre right behind him. And it's just so weird because I'm
55:53
you're you know, you're looking at this roster and it's like everybody'd be like,
55:58
well, it's Cody Rhodes, right, No, Like, I really
56:01
think it's a good possibility, like Cody might win with like some sort of
56:07
a roll up or something at Backlash and then get his ass beat and then
56:10
and then we don't see Cody roads maybe until Summer Slam even like maybe he's
56:15
just out for a while. I think I think, I think Cody loses
56:19
the finals. I think Rollins gets his wins wins back further. It's the
56:25
further trials and tribulation of Cody Reynolds. Yeah, Cody has to survive Suplex
56:31
City. What are you talking about, Doyle? Yeah, if I agree,
56:36
awesome, Yeah, I agree with you if if I'm booking it,
56:37
it's gonna come down to Seth and Cody in the finals, and Seth finally
56:45
gets the win over Cody because Cody is currently up three zero on him,
56:49
and that's gonna play parting had to play until the storyline Seth finally gets the
56:53
dub and he becomes the champ. And the Kevin Owens thing, that's actually
56:58
a very good huh and said I said, and you continue to put hard
57:01
times on Cody, which is right. I think they're gonna do for the
57:06
next couple of months. Yeah. And again the Kevin Nowan's thing, that's
57:08
actually a very good, uh suggestion, even though I don't think that's gonna
57:13
happen, but it is a very good suggestion of something that could happen.
57:15
Maybe not for this first champion, but it could happen at some point down
57:21
the line. Because when you look at the raw roster right now post draft,
57:25
they don't really have a top male heel. They are very much lacking
57:34
in top heels. Gunter is a heel, but he's mid card. Still.
57:39
He's rising up, but he isn't He's still kind of mostly mid card
57:44
for the most part. Yeah, I mean, Ronson Reid is still mid
57:51
card. Uh. Drew Mcatire is a baby face Austin. I mean,
57:55
as there's Seth Rollins is a baby face. He can turn. Drew can
57:59
turn drew the drop of a hat. Sure, sure, I'm just saying
58:01
that where they stand right now. What about Jinder Mahal, I mean he's
58:08
not even a mid Carter was champion a few years ago at Backlash, Like
58:21
he's part of a clique. He's part of his own little group, his
58:23
own little stable. But yeah, I don't unless now maybe they Britain now,
58:29
maybe that they did get drafted to Raw correct. Yeah okay, now,
58:31
maybe they do try to build them up and make them top tier heels.
58:37
But as it stands right now, Rawl's biggest heel right now is probably
58:43
fucking Finn Balor. Yeah. Remember remember fourteen staples? Yeah, remember what
58:51
happened when Finn Balor won the Universal title when he was the first champion.
58:55
Yeah, and he lost the language because they got hurt. Yeah. Yes,
59:01
like I said, they are really lacking. So I mean that that
59:05
that little seed that you planted about Ko betraying Sammy's ain't I think that is
59:09
very much a real possibility on the table to happen some point this year.
59:14
Hell yeah, because we're all these heels, thank you. Oh, I
59:16
absolutely think that's gonna how it's gonna eventually play out. I think I think
59:21
Ko does. Ko always gets turned on. I don't. I think he
59:25
does the turning from once. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, I don't think
59:30
that tag team makes it the Summer Slam. Yeah. I think you're so
59:34
right. You can bet a dollar on that. I bet you're so right.
59:37
They get a fight forever. Man, that'll probably be a SummerSlam match,
59:42
possibly Sammy's aint versus Ko. Yeah. Right, Uh, do you
59:46
guys have anything else you want to talk about? The draft before we move
59:49
on here? Tray Stratus Yeah, yeah, so the role Yeah, only
59:58
surprising from the standpoint that she was even drafted, and that just makes me
1:00:04
wonder, like, damn, how long is she going? How long is
1:00:07
she about to make this little run? And she's on with WWE. Clear
1:00:12
honestly, I don't think she's gonna be there every single week, but clearly
1:00:15
she's if she If they if if they went through the trouble of actually naming
1:00:20
her as a draftee as opposed to Leader who they did not bother to list
1:00:24
as a draftee, if they went through trouble of doing that, that implies
1:00:30
to me that Trish has committed at least a few months to them about a
1:00:37
year, if I had to say, maybe a year between like appearances and
1:00:46
like a couple of rows, but like only fighting like at the main,
1:00:51
like the main main pay per views, like Summer Slam, Survivor series,
1:00:55
things like that. Possibly something to that fact. I think she may.
1:01:00
I think she made wrestle a couple of raws. I mean, obviously she's
1:01:02
not going to be a workhorse about there every week, but she she's clearly
1:01:07
must have committed at least at least through SummerSlam at the bare minimum, if
1:01:12
not all the way up to WrestleMania next year. I mean, she even
1:01:15
said in her promo, which was weird because that could have been a backstage
1:01:21
segment. I'm not sure. I disagree captivates me holding a microphone in the
1:01:27
middle of the ring by herself, but she said but she said, she
1:01:32
basically said, like, oh, I'm here to teach the young girls,
1:01:36
and I'm like one of the greatest of all time, and like, you
1:01:38
know, so yeah, it's it's it's pretty easy to slot her in there,
1:01:43
you know, even if it's just for a couple of months or even
1:01:45
up to a year. You know, I think that's that's that's built in
1:01:51
story right there. I disagree with you about I agree with everything you said,
1:01:57
except for the fact that that promo could have been a backstage segment.
1:02:00
Absolutely not. I thought that promo that krit Trish cut on Raw was phenomenal
1:02:07
and it just showed just how good she is still after all these years.
1:02:13
There are very few women on the WWE roster who can stand in that ring
1:02:19
by themselves and cut a promo that strong and completely hold the audience's attention the
1:02:25
entire time. They are very few women who can do that. I mean
1:02:30
the Alpha shows where she definitely helped. Very few women who can sit there
1:02:35
and cut a promo that strong. I mean that line did she delivered when
1:02:37
she said I'm not your child When she said I'm not your I'm not your
1:02:42
nostalgia act, I'm not your childhood fantasy. I'm like, like, that's
1:02:46
a fucking bar that is gonna go down. I'll promise you at when we
1:02:52
do our End of the year, that's gonna be on my list probably of
1:02:54
lines of the year. Well, I think there's a photo floating around of
1:03:00
a teenage Roman rains in his in his bedroom and there's a trip stratus post
1:03:04
on the wall. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it's Roman Rains.
1:03:07
Yeah, possibly, I mean great, of course not. What she said
1:03:12
is obviously false because I'm not your child of fantasy bullshit. Yes, the
1:03:15
fuck you work? Don't you dan sit there until that goddamn lie I had,
1:03:22
I too, had a post view in my fucking room. You might
1:03:27
not have been my fantasy, but you were my teenage teenage an aging young
1:03:31
adult. Yeah, still like I mean, she's still ship. Yeah,
1:03:37
but anyway, like I said, that promo she cut was fire like as
1:03:42
much y'all know how much of how much I stand Bianco bell Lare, how
1:03:45
much I'm a fan of hers. I don't think Biancle bell Eric could go
1:03:49
in the ring by herself and cut a promo like that like the waitress did.
1:03:53
Bianco works great, like and I mentioned it this past and the discord
1:03:58
uh this past Monday. Bianca works great when she's playing off somebody else in
1:04:02
the ring, where she can bounce off somebody else to go back forth,
1:04:05
and that Bianca is phenomenal. But when she has to go in the ring
1:04:10
and buy herself and just cut a single promo, she kind of falls into
1:04:14
just some cliche lines. She hasn't really built I'm not saying she sucks at
1:04:20
it, but she's not. It's not her strongest suit, especially when you
1:04:25
compare it to the promo that Trish cut in the ring like she Trish reminded
1:04:31
everybody why she is considered one of the goats of women's wrestling. And yeah,
1:04:40
I hope some when we're backstage taking notes like shit, I gotta work
1:04:43
on my mic skills. Anything else about the Jeff you guys want to talk
1:04:49
about before we move on here? No, I think I'm good. Yeah,
1:04:56
I think we've covered it all, covered that we covered the world idol.
1:05:00
Uh yeah, I got I got some news. Let's let's uh oh
1:05:05
wait, let's move into some news here. Uh fucking news. All right.
1:05:18
I did touch on, uh some quick quick news here about Indie Heartwell
1:05:26
getting injured and having to give up her title. There's rumors now that,
1:05:30
um, there was a stable if they were in called the way it had
1:05:33
Indie Heartwell, Gargano, Cancel or Rey, and Dexter Loomis all in a
1:05:39
stable. Now that they're all in the same roster again, it's very possible
1:05:43
that we could see that happen. Another rapid fire news. Unfortunately, Sha
1:05:49
McMann is expected to make his two w in ring return soon. Well hopefully
1:05:57
he blows out another name. I know that. I don't know why that
1:06:00
broke news, Like, I guess he's he's training, he wants to come
1:06:04
back soon. I think, yeah, he wants that salty money. Yeah,
1:06:11
we all want his match. I mean geez, Um, Robert Rude
1:06:17
could be out for an additional year with his neck injury. Yeah, um,
1:06:23
that really sucks now that you know Triple HS I could say, quote
1:06:28
unquote in charge because Robert Rude was definitely one of his guys. Uh you
1:06:32
know a n XC so I I you know, I thought, okay,
1:06:35
now that him and uh Dolph Ziggler are a part, like, maybe he
1:06:41
would definitely get a push better. You know that he deserved because he If
1:06:44
you guys ever watched him in NXC, I mean, he had the gimmick,
1:06:47
he had the rope, he had the music. He was a great
1:06:51
heel. I liked him on the mic, and then when he came up
1:06:55
to the main roster, it just seemed like he just got fucking buried.
1:07:00
Uh. We talked about Baron Corban getting his first win since November of last
1:07:05
year. Uh, you know, huge pop for Baron Corban now hopefully does
1:07:11
this make Is this going to make him a face? Why not? Yeah?
1:07:16
They Why would they not do his first win on TV? I don't
1:07:20
get why he was in a dark match? Uh well, let's think about
1:07:27
that. Though it was in France, do you think he would have gotten
1:07:29
a pop like that for a win here in the States. I don't think
1:07:35
No. I think that was just France being France and you know, just
1:07:41
going off because obviously they're aware of his losing streak just like we are,
1:07:45
and you know, give them something and they just completely go off for it.
1:07:48
Like if he would have gotten a win here in the States, the
1:07:53
reaction would have could have varied depending on from city to city. You know,
1:07:57
somebody like Chicago might have gone ape shit for it, but you know,
1:08:00
Omaha, Nebraska might not have given two fucks. If anything, if
1:08:06
there's anything that could work in Baron Corby's favor for this is maybe they remember
1:08:12
this if they do clash at the Castle again later this year, if they
1:08:15
bring it back and they remember, like, oh, Barren Corby's pretty over
1:08:18
in the UK, maybe we do something with this that's probably about the best
1:08:24
we can hope for until then he's a jobber on Monday or Friday, that
1:08:30
Ripley could be considering, could be considering a slight name change, calling Ria
1:08:38
Bloody Ripley. Sure that might hit hard, you know, one week out
1:08:45
of the month, but I don't think we need to call her her Riah
1:08:50
Bloody Ripley. It doesn't. It doesn't work as well as Seth freaking Rollins.
1:08:57
Uh. That's the exact same thing as Seth freaking Rollins. Yeah,
1:09:00
it's unnecessary. You can just say Seth anytime Seth Rollins is on screen.
1:09:06
You could go ahead and say Seth freaking Rollins. But I don't think it
1:09:10
needs to be on his chiron uh, every time his name pops up or
1:09:15
anything. Yeah, but that's it's kind of how things evolved. I mean,
1:09:21
we could say that it sounds dumb and it doesn't and it won't work
1:09:25
now, but who knows, I think. I mean, supposedly the story
1:09:29
behind is that she had a ring announcer uh introduced her as real Bloody Ripley
1:09:32
at a house show. So you know, maybe that was just a test
1:09:34
to see, you know, how the audience would be right, she says
1:09:39
in a promo too. Yeah, I'm real Bloody Ripley. You know,
1:09:42
it might not go over well with people here in the States, but could
1:09:45
pop really well with people in the UK. So, and like I said,
1:09:49
we've seen names evolve plenty over throughout the history of wrestling. You know,
1:09:55
Rocky my Ivia became the Rock. Who would have ever thought a name
1:09:59
like the Rock could be one of the biggest names in wrestling. Something that's
1:10:03
simple, or Hunter Hurst helms Yeah, or Hunter Hurst Helmsley. Sean Michael
1:10:10
starts nicknaming him Triple H and next you know, that's what he becomes.
1:10:15
So you know, we've seen evolutions and names before, so you know,
1:10:18
it seems kind of sleep now, but I wouldn't completely pooh poo it.
1:10:23
You know, who's who knows where we might be a year from now.
1:10:27
If you know, Ria becomes a face and she's shit talking some top heel
1:10:31
and she's all up in her face like bitch, I'm Ria Bloody Ripley,
1:10:35
and a crowd could go nuts over it. So, yeah, everybody's got
1:10:40
their own nicknames and shit, you don't need to make everything part of the
1:10:44
actual syntax of you know, like, like, Rebecca Quinn is still Becky
1:10:49
Lynch. You know, she doesn't need to be the Man Becky Lynch.
1:10:53
You can call her that every single fucking time she's on TV, but it
1:10:57
doesn't need to ever appear in print as the man, you know, like
1:11:00
and same with the Beast Brocoln Ever, the American Nightmare Cody Rhodes, all
1:11:04
of them say, Cody, Yeah, put it on a T shirt or
1:11:09
whatever. You don't need to like officially change their name to that. M.
1:11:14
I don't know now, guys, a former Diva's Champion has just left
1:11:19
the company after seventeen years. Could you guys take a wild fucking shot in
1:11:26
the dark? Who that is has been? Huh? I know who is
1:11:30
it? Alicia Fox? Yeah, I was about to get I was going
1:11:33
to guess that Alicia Fox. I'm still with the fucking company. She's only
1:11:39
thirty six. But like what I never knew that she was still with the
1:11:44
company. Something right? She wants to sign a really long contract, Like,
1:11:54
so does this mean like she was just because the last time I saw
1:11:57
her was like a Legends night they brought her out, So does that mean
1:12:00
she like she just she had like a Legends contract, was she like still
1:12:04
getting paid like appearances and that probably yeah, yeah, help, I think
1:12:15
yeah, that makes sense that a Legends contract, maybe doing some promotional stuff
1:12:20
kind of like what uh um, what's your boy tightest? Yeah, like
1:12:28
what tightest does? She could have been doing some stuff like that, and
1:12:30
maybe they just finally decide like, all right, we're done here, We'll
1:12:35
let you go explore other options, especially if she may have still had desires
1:12:41
to compete in the ring or get back into the ring one point and someday
1:12:45
and WW has no interest in that, so maybe they decided to let her
1:12:50
go, like, hey, you know, if you still want to wrestle,
1:12:53
you're free to go, and you know, join some other promotion if
1:12:56
you want to do that. So so, uh, it's always it seems
1:13:01
like every couple episodes we have to talk about some sort of lawsuit, right,
1:13:08
So I'm gonna talk about one of these lawsuits out of the many.
1:13:13
WW has faced many lawsuits over the years, and they have needed to defend
1:13:16
their name in court. Before this time, they're in the hot seat for
1:13:20
the fireworks they used that WrestleMania this year might have been too much of a
1:13:26
boom for them. Pw Insider reports an update on lawsuit going on between a
1:13:30
fan and WWE over WrestleMania thirty eight. This fan claims that he lost his
1:13:35
hearing thanks to the pyro Now he wants to be paid, and he's asking
1:13:40
for one million dollars. As we've previously reported, Marvin Jackson filed a lawsuit
1:13:47
against ww January twelfth before the District Court of Arrant County, Texas, allegedly
1:13:57
they lost his hearing in his left ear while invite while invite E two Wrestleman
1:14:02
thirty eight due to a pyrotechnic splast occurred as the part of the w dewete
1:14:08
production. Jackson's lawsuit requested a jury trial and was seeking monetary relief of more
1:14:15
than one million dollars including damages of any kind, penalty, cost expenses,
1:14:20
pre judgment interests, and attorney fees. Yeah, well, what do you
1:14:27
expect when you go to a WWE event? You know, I'm about to
1:14:30
say, like a motherfucker, are you new here that? Like? Are
1:14:32
you knew? Like you know, you're lucky you were outside? Do you
1:14:36
know what it's like when we watched listen to the pro indoors? You know
1:14:42
Doyle the Wells Fargo when we went and saw extreme rules at place isn't as
1:14:47
big as people think it is, and Pyro goes off, Pyro fucking goes
1:14:50
off. You could be in the bathroom taking a ship and you're gonna know
1:14:54
that the Pirro went off. I bring your blugs to fucking absolutely everything,
1:14:59
and that that's why, because I did. I did way too much.
1:15:02
Yet, right, I did way too much, not doing that as a
1:15:05
as a kid. And I definitely uh permanently damaged my hair in a little
1:15:12
bit, for sure, But you don't see me suing anybody over it.
1:15:15
It was my own stupid fault. I stood too close to the fucking speakers
1:15:19
and a million punk rock shows and was way too cool to wear ear plugs,
1:15:26
you know, And now you catch me in the back row with ear
1:15:30
plugs in for sure. But yeah, I mean, this just speaks to
1:15:32
how fucking lititious our our society has become. This is just like the fucking
1:15:36
lady that sued because her coffee was too hot, right, like yeah,
1:15:43
yep, this is just somebody grasping its straws, you know, Like it's
1:15:49
I mean, I'm not a hearing expert. I can't speak to whether one
1:15:54
or or or even a series of concussive events like that could cause as enough
1:16:00
to cause damage. But in my case, it was a ton. It
1:16:03
was death by papercuts, you know what I mean. It was a little
1:16:05
here, a little there, a little you know, it doesn't seem like
1:16:09
that kind of thing with one instance is enough to pinpoint it and say this
1:16:15
is the thing, and you owe me a billion dollars or one million dollars
1:16:17
because of it. You know, now is gonna have to put it.
1:16:23
Yeah, now, ww's gonna have to put a stupid disclaimer on like all
1:16:26
their tickets or something like that, this event does contain loud bois. It's
1:16:30
just in tiny timey letters. Oh yeah, well if it's already on there,
1:16:34
then dude, get fucked. But like, yeah, you're you're so
1:16:38
right, dre. It's like, is this your fucking first time? Like
1:16:44
like do you not know like that there's gonna be pyro especially at WrestleMania,
1:16:48
especially at WrestleMania, What the fuck, dude? And where were you sitting
1:16:54
that? And like okay, so in a million bucks that's a lot for
1:17:00
like now for ear is yeah, excep forate ear because he said he only
1:17:05
lost earing in one so holy shit, I'd be willing to take a hearing
1:17:09
loss in one ear for a million. I mean, I'm thinking about it,
1:17:13
you know, I'm just like, m a million bucks. You still,
1:17:15
here's Romania forty. Here we come, right, Carl's go off.
1:17:21
We're all sitting there like Hulk Hogan trying to funnel the fucking sound into our
1:17:25
ear. Oh my god, A million dollars is not that much money.
1:17:30
And if this guy is gonna pay taxes and lawyer fees on top of even
1:17:33
if he wins a million dollars, he's gonna come come away with like maybe
1:17:41
yeah, you know, yeah, you're so right, and the retrospect of
1:17:45
it all, yes, you know, I'd be more asking for like maybe
1:17:50
maybe maybe you can have a million dollars if you didn't have four muscle cars,
1:17:54
you know, just a thought. I think that was a jab at
1:17:58
me. It wasn't fact, but I'd be like, no, I want
1:18:03
every time you come to my city, my town, my state. I
1:18:06
want fucking tickets like that and a millionaire. Yeah right, that's way more
1:18:12
valuable. Actually, I want to be next to green shirt guy. You
1:18:15
know, I don't want to pay for a beer while I'm there. Maybe
1:18:18
I want I want to go into back stage exactly. I want to be
1:18:24
I want to be in the buffet from Trip Stratus. You know, I
1:18:29
want all these demands. Yeah, now, now let's I'm not going to
1:18:34
open up this whole can of worms, because we could honestly be here forever
1:18:38
talking about this next lawsuit. Uh w W is sued by former writer who
1:18:45
allegedly who alleges she was fired for pushing back on offensively racist scripts and um
1:18:53
there there's two certain wrestlers that are included in this uh Bianca bel Air,
1:18:58
Apollo cru Uh even man Sore just all types of We've been hearing all of
1:19:05
the Internet, all types of goofy storylines that they've been pushing. Um and
1:19:11
I've been seeing like a lot of storylines like this resurfacing from like older wrestling,
1:19:16
uh storylines that we've had, and people on Twitter like, you know,
1:19:21
I've answered a few of them. People are like, well, how
1:19:25
comes they haven't brought up any of these? You know. You know when
1:19:28
this happened, I was like, because there was no social media, there
1:19:31
was none. Who are you going to complain to there, you know there,
1:19:38
it's just now that you have you have a voice to to, you
1:19:43
know, voice your opinion. But some of these are just batshit crazy storylines
1:19:49
and uh like they were going to do that man Sore was behind the nine
1:19:54
to eleven attacks? Are you fucking kidding me? Like? Is this some
1:19:57
crazy? Is this some you know, is this some stuff that people were
1:20:00
joking about backstage that's got taken out of hand by another employee or is this
1:20:04
this another fucking crazy ass Vince McMahon fucking yeah storyline. But like I say,
1:20:13
we could sit here all day and talk about this, these crazy can
1:20:16
of worms of like all these crazy storylines like that they have for all these
1:20:23
other superstars. And I get it, I I can I get it.
1:20:27
But uh, yeah, what do you guys think about this? I mean,
1:20:31
short and sweet, gross, I mean, if it's true, it's
1:20:36
gross. Yeah, And this is a this is an industry that doesn't exactly
1:20:41
have the best reputation when it comes to really anything involving anyone that isn't a
1:20:49
straight white male, you know, honestly. Yeah, and yeah, I
1:20:56
mean I haven't seen the discovery. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know,
1:21:00
but if if all this stuff, I mean, there's how much shit
1:21:03
has made it to TV that was disgusting, you know, like who what
1:21:08
was the terrorist character they had? Uh? And like he attacked the Undertaker
1:21:13
and they had Muhammad Son that whole thing. I need that, Like,
1:21:19
uh, you know, you've got a company that's founded in the former chairman
1:21:24
and whatever hell he is anymore? Uh, you know, said the N
1:21:28
word on TV more than once. I'll say, literally said the N word
1:21:32
do rag on TV? I mean just for an a rag. But can't
1:21:40
anybody wear a do rag? Anybody could say the N word. I don't
1:21:44
think. I don't know that anybody should say the N word, but that's
1:21:47
not my TV, right, Yeah, yeah, but I wouldn't say it,
1:21:51
I'm telling me. Yeah. I mean, like anybody can look at
1:21:58
her claim and look at ww's history and say, yep, she she's probably
1:22:03
right. She probably had to. She's probably in that writings room fighting for
1:22:08
her life, trying to keep the dumbest shit off air. Like even some
1:22:12
of the stuff that's kind of come out since this lawsuit that some ideas that
1:22:16
have been rumored, like I think I saw one that said that alleged that
1:22:21
they had they were gonna have one of their um Arabic wrestlers be the come
1:22:28
up beyond TV as the person behind nine to eleven. This is like,
1:22:31
yeah, yeah, yeah, It's like, what the fuck are you people
1:22:34
doing in this in this writing room? And quite frankly, thank god for
1:22:39
somebody like her being in the room to look at y'all say seriously, what
1:22:44
the fuck are y'all doing? Yep, and to try to hold y'all back,
1:22:46
because good lord, if that shit wasn't, imagine how many freaking controversies
1:22:53
w W would have gone through over the years, and for them to turn
1:22:58
around and treat her life shit because she's sitting there saving y'all dumbasses from doing
1:23:02
shit because apparently y'all don't understand that, because y'all don't can't sit here and
1:23:09
understand that you know, this dumb ass shit that y'all may joke about with
1:23:13
you and your own little circle ain't gonna fly with other people, and that
1:23:17
you know there are other races that will actually get offended by this shit.
1:23:21
It ain't jokes to some of these to other people, it's just it's not
1:23:30
surprising. And I hope she gets whatever she wants from the lawsuit because I'm
1:23:39
inclined to believe that whatever she says, she's probably accurate. This is the
1:23:45
antithesis of that other lawsuit, right, This is on the complete opposite end.
1:23:50
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course it is. It's
1:23:56
fucking ridiculous. Uh And it's just like I said, it just seems like
1:24:02
we're always talking about lawsuits with WW. It's just as a fan and trying
1:24:10
to you know, when people who are outside who aren't fans looking in.
1:24:14
It's just like, damn, you guys got a lot of problems going on
1:24:15
in WW right now, Like, yeah, we fucking though, which we
1:24:17
got an old fucking guy. We're trying to get him out. We're trying
1:24:21
to get him out, you know, and and he even sold the company.
1:24:25
But yeah, he's still fucking here. You know. I guess at
1:24:28
this point it's just like it's gonna be what it is until he's fucking dead.
1:24:30
Like, uh so, I don't know, if you know, if
1:24:36
you guys turned the channel to AW, we'll talk about AW for a hot
1:24:41
second. Britt Breaker has had this massive black and blue eye for the past
1:24:47
week, right a week or so, and they slapped it on a T
1:24:50
shirt with no form of writing or context or nothing. You just have this
1:24:57
shirt with this beautiful woman with a massive black and blue eye and just just
1:25:03
thinking that in twenty twenty three, just going to the grocery store having this
1:25:06
shirt. What do you think people are thinking? You know, there's very
1:25:13
split people on this, you know, thinking a lot of domestic abuse maybe,
1:25:19
or that you kind of support given to women black eyes or you know.
1:25:24
I personally, I didn't even think about it until I saw it on
1:25:30
a T shirt and then I was like, Oh, that's not a good
1:25:32
idea because Becky Lynch got her face busted open a couple of years ago and
1:25:38
they didn't slap that shit on T shirt. They didn't have to. Yeah,
1:25:43
I say that's what they're trying to recreate. I think is there a
1:25:45
version of that? But yeah, talking about right do we need to slap
1:25:51
it on a fucking T shirt? So there's there's a lot of people talking
1:25:56
about you know, it might come down, These shirts might come off,
1:25:59
So if you want it, you might want to buy it now. They're
1:26:01
going on eBay for thirty five bucks or shop aw for twenty nine ninety nine.
1:26:06
But Chris Jericho recently. Uh were it one on Dynamite the other day?
1:26:14
But I just thought that'd be something funny to bring up because, Uh,
1:26:18
I think it was funny because there was somebody who's stupid enough to green
1:26:20
like that and like, yeah, let's slap it on a fucking shirt,
1:26:25
very very tasteless, no imagine whatsoever? Yeah, like imagine this. Imagine
1:26:32
like some kid wears that at the school, right and what type of Like
1:26:40
they're just asking for a controversy that I don't think they want. Yeah,
1:26:45
man, you don't want to walk into fucking eye hoop with that shirt on
1:26:47
on International Women's Day, like the fucking shirt you want to be sporting.
1:26:54
Oh I'm handed looking up to see it. Yeah, good like you.
1:27:02
I mean, like I don't even know at this point where you could write
1:27:05
on this shirt. Be like you know, like I don't even know what
1:27:10
you could write on the shirt for it to be justified as like a cool
1:27:14
shirt, like even as a wrestling fan, Like I can't, I can't
1:27:17
think of anything. But like that's just the picture that even put on your
1:27:21
Instagram, her Instagram, you know, and then be done with it.
1:27:27
Like that was the thing with Becky Lynch like when she busted her fucking face
1:27:30
open. Yeah, we saw videos of it. We saw we did see
1:27:33
pictures of it. But at the end of the day, nobody slapped it
1:27:36
on a poster or a fucking T shirt. You know, it wasn't somebody,
1:27:41
It wasn't my fucking wallpaper on my computer. Like some people just don't
1:27:46
know how to I don't know, just fucking stupid. I laughed when I
1:27:50
saw it on a shirt because I was like, this is dumb. Because
1:27:54
somebody suggested it on a shirt. Then that went through a couple other people
1:27:59
who were like, that's a good idea, let's sign off on it.
1:28:01
And then people went to work and printed that shit and and folded that up
1:28:05
merchandise and packaged it and still thought that was a good idea, And then
1:28:11
they put the murch on their website. I can promise you there were no
1:28:15
women in the room when that decision was made. Probably that's right. Uh.
1:28:24
Also, uh, former w W wrestler Naomi As known as Trinity,
1:28:31
who is uh no, I always fucking get this wrong? What you so
1:28:35
she married her she with Jay or no, you know it is Jimmy.
1:28:44
I always mess it up. But uh, yeah, she made her appearance
1:28:48
debut on Impact Wrestling the other day. Uh, you know, I good
1:28:56
for her. Right, she's back in the ring doing something, you know,
1:29:00
after her and Sasha both you know left you know, the company together
1:29:05
and they took their TAC team titles and and they took their ball and went
1:29:09
home. Right, and you know recently, uh Sasha Banks. Notice Mercedes
1:29:16
is that she's going as right now, um Mercedes Monday, she's going around
1:29:25
saying that she's gonna be She's gonna keep doing her thing until she's bigger than
1:29:29
John Cena. And I was like, good luck with that. Uh but
1:29:34
you know, NAILI I'm thinking like, yeah, I did you know occasionally
1:29:40
it's rare, you know, on a Thursday, I might swap to Impact
1:29:44
Wrestling, you know, Impact wrestling. Just it's just it's just not interesting
1:29:48
to me. You got like maybe what like eighty people there. It feels
1:29:51
smaller than an NXT uh night sometimes and uh now she's like a big fish
1:29:59
and a small pond. And I'm thinking to myself, what if what if
1:30:05
she would have stuck around? What if she didn't walk out with Sasha?
1:30:08
What if she would have stayed She could have maybe possibly, very likely been
1:30:15
part of the blood Line, and they could have used a strong female character
1:30:21
because we have them in a lot of other stables. Now, we have
1:30:25
Met Chin in the OC, we have Ria Ripley in the Judgment Day.
1:30:29
You know, we could have had Naomi in the blood Line and it would
1:30:32
totally have made sense. And we're doing a lot more mixed tag matches,
1:30:38
which I love, and I I wish they would do that tournament. They
1:30:43
did a couple of times, the Mixed Tag Tournament. I loved that.
1:30:45
Yeah, that's all time and it's fun. Yeah, And I put in
1:30:48
front of you guys right now, like, if you had to choose one
1:30:53
of the three women to go in the blood Line, would it be Taminahaomi
1:31:00
or Nia Jacks And you're probably gonna pick Naomi out of that right all day?
1:31:08
So like not only like, I feel like she would have been way
1:31:12
more relevant now, she'd be making way more money and she'd be wrestling in
1:31:15
front of a way bigger crowd. I mean, I know, for her
1:31:17
mental health and everything, she's happy where she's at, great, but I
1:31:21
feel like she totally missed the ship. She totally missed it. And you
1:31:27
know, now I feel like whenever I feel like wrestlers leave WWE and go
1:31:33
to place like Impact, it's fucked up to say, but I always feel
1:31:36
like you're taking a step back, you know, like maybe not so much
1:31:43
when you go to AW but when you go to an Impact. To me,
1:31:45
that's a step back. Yeah, that's all well and good and sure
1:31:50
the WW we know in professional wrestling, it represents the top of the mountain,
1:31:55
it represents the grandest stage at all. But we can't. I can't
1:32:00
fault somebody for putting their own happiness and mental health first if they were if
1:32:10
she wasn't happy, I mean, for context, I mean, have you
1:32:14
heard the interview that she gave with Busted Open Radio recently? Have you heard
1:32:18
it? I've heard that. I've listened to the clip, and there's a
1:32:23
quote that she get that she stated, um explaining her exit. UM,
1:32:29
I don't have to clip, I don't have to clip to play, but
1:32:30
I can I can read the quote. Yeah, what she said is and
1:32:35
I'm quoting. I felt very stagnant and I wasn't happy. Ultimately, I
1:32:41
left that day because of the way I was talked to and handled. Everything
1:32:45
just kind of broke me. That day. It had nothing to do with
1:32:47
anything else, anyone else, But to go through all that backlash and all
1:32:51
the negativity and the lies and the rumors, and then to also just kind
1:32:56
of feel lost, it broke me. It was probably the lowest I've ever
1:33:00
felt in my life. That's a direct quote from her talking about why she
1:33:04
loved WWE right and it sucks for her to be in that place. So
1:33:09
something can be, you know, the mountaintop, it can be the biggest
1:33:14
thing at all. But if you're there and you're completely miserable and you're not
1:33:17
happy, and you're feeling lower than ever, and you feel like maybe within
1:33:20
the company you're being disrespected, I'm not gonna I can't fall somebody for leaving
1:33:26
that. Even if she's going to something that's smaller, is she a smaller
1:33:30
promotion or you know, a lower you know stepping or you know, again
1:33:35
a lower tier promotion or whatever. If she's happier and she feels like she
1:33:40
has more creative freedom and she is in a place where she is satisfied with
1:33:46
her decision and ultimately again she's happy, then I'm happy for her. And
1:33:53
practically that's all that batters. And just because she left wwe doesn't mean that
1:33:59
the years down the line she can't come back. We've seen plenty of people
1:34:02
leave and come back before, and who knows she can bouncetbly even come back
1:34:06
bigger than she was when she left. So ultimately it's her choice and her
1:34:13
her mental health and her happiness and her her freedom to do what she wants
1:34:19
with her professional career and her character comes first. So as long as she's
1:34:25
happy and she likes it, I love it. H The last thing I
1:34:31
have here for our new segment, bray Wyatt has got a new writer for
1:34:40
him, so hopefully, you know, six months from now of promos and
1:34:46
and teases will get a match. You know. You know, I kind
1:34:51
of like rolled my eyes because honestly, I'm kind of Overbrey, Like,
1:34:58
uh, you know, me and Oil were there when he came back at
1:35:01
it at Extreme Rules, and the excitement was so there for him to be
1:35:08
back. I was so happy he was back in the company, But the
1:35:13
build for anything for him just took so long, and it felt like he
1:35:17
was just treading water and we were going nowhere. And I get it.
1:35:23
He was having some mental health issues and there was rumors going around that he
1:35:28
was physically not in shape. That's why he had to walk away for a
1:35:31
while. I'm sure there's probably a lot more to it than we know,
1:35:35
but like I'm just we still even fucking okay, we kind of know who
1:35:43
Uncle how he is. We still don't fucking really know per Cannon, but
1:35:47
uh, I mean, I still think it's bow Dallas, but uh,
1:35:53
I mean, that's another storyline is kind of dropped. I feel like,
1:35:57
with Alexa Bliss out, if they do plan on reuniting her and Bray and
1:36:02
you know, uncle, how do you have these three together, maybe form
1:36:05
a larger stable, adds somebody else to it, I don't know. Like
1:36:12
I'm just the excitement for Bray is for me is it's gone. Because when
1:36:16
I see him come back, whether it's like you know, SummerSlam, whenever,
1:36:20
I'm just like, okay, cool, he's back. Now. We
1:36:24
got months of promos, I guess, and just weird vignettes. Right.
1:36:30
So that's just my take on Bray White coming back. Yeah, it's all
1:36:39
one big yawn until we actually see him on television. Even if he has
1:36:43
another writer, there's still there's still no tentative date for his return or no
1:36:48
timeline for his return. So this is all kind of meaningless until we see
1:36:55
him back on television. Then right, once we see him, we'll see
1:36:59
what happens. But yeah, I have zero interest in anything, zero interest
1:37:04
in anything involving bray Rot bray wide. And so we actually see him on
1:37:10
ww television again, hoping all the best for him whatever he's dealing with,
1:37:14
whatever illness he's dealing with, whether it's physical or mental or whatever he's dealing
1:37:17
with. Wish him all the best. Yeah, that always comes first.
1:37:21
But as far as the character, Yeah, m hm, Well, guys,
1:37:29
that's all I got for news. Do you guys have any news before
1:37:33
we We're gonna go take a break here in a hot second, anything else
1:37:39
you want to add some to the news, anything that I may have missed
1:37:43
at breaking news? Not that? Alright, Well, here's what we're gonna
1:37:50
We're gonna take a break and we'll come back and we will break down our
1:37:54
predictions for taglash, I mean backlash. Yes, so let's take a break.
1:38:09
Whoa why oh yeah, whoa why oh yeah? It's not okay,
1:38:58
and we are back and we are going to talk about backlash. Uh okay,
1:39:04
So backlash if you don't already know is gonna be in San Juan,
1:39:10
Puerto Rico. Uh, bad Bunny and Damian Priests are on the poster here.
1:39:16
I never thought i'd see the day that Damian Priest would be on the
1:39:21
poster of anything. Uh is in the graphic for everything? Also yeah,
1:39:30
yeah, yeah, but you know what though, it's just like okay,
1:39:31
I understand that, right, but Damian Priest never again, he better better
1:39:36
get himself a poster of that and hanging on his wall because I don't think
1:39:40
da is gonna be on the cover. Uh. And unless it's the Royal
1:39:45
Rumble and he's in there with twenty nine other guys. Uh, only seven
1:39:49
matches seven matches. Uh, we're come. Let's go through this here.
1:39:57
First one, they were talk about the history of wrestling in Puerto Rico.
1:40:02
First, what let's do that with your segment, Doyle. Before we get
1:40:11
this off, let us know some facts. Uh. This is going to
1:40:15
be super super duper abridged because this could be hours and hours and hours.
1:40:25
So I tried to make this as as quick and concise as possible. But
1:40:30
before researching any of this, if you'd asked me to describe Puerto Rican wrestling
1:40:34
in one word, I would have said blood, and I turned out wouldn't
1:40:40
have been wrong. But Puerto Rican wrestling us a lot more to offer than
1:40:45
that, and it was actually a pretty nice little melting pot where a number
1:40:49
of different styles kind of mixed together and fortune of something unique that has in
1:40:54
turn gone on to influence others from Mexico to South Philly to Japan. As
1:41:00
with many places. Professional wrestling first appeared in Puerto Rico on a television screen,
1:41:05
but of course these were all foreign companies and Puerto Rican stars were rarely
1:41:11
featured. However, there were a few Puerto Rican stars bumping around the United
1:41:15
States at the time. Notably, of course, was Pedro Morales excuse me,
1:41:23
who was actually the first triple crown winner in WWF history. But other
1:41:30
than that, you know, winning the World Ice title and tag titles.
1:41:33
Other than that, the only really pre promotion days name of note is Gilberto
1:41:41
Gypsy Joe Melendez. And besides being the first to perform and off the top
1:41:45
of the steel cage move, uh, you know, a feat that is
1:41:50
often incorrectly attributed to the murderer. Not the only murderer we'll be talking about
1:41:56
here, but the Murderer super Fly Jimmy Snooka. Uh. He's also eatured
1:42:00
in a kind of infamous new Jack incident, which you can find on YouTube,
1:42:05
where new Jack basically is being a ship out of a sixty or seventy
1:42:10
something year old guy and it's just as sad as it sounds, but it's
1:42:15
out there if you want to find it on YouTube. New Jack versus Gypsy
1:42:19
Joe anyway, that'll change in nineteen sixty when the first local promoter, sports
1:42:27
commentator Jose Antonio this name I'm going a butcher guy, Angel gets together with
1:42:34
local wrestlers Thomas Marin and Electrico, who had both learned to wrestle abroad,
1:42:42
as well as a smattering of foreigners, and they start the first promotion in
1:42:45
Puerto Rico. That promotion never gets a name, but it does manage to
1:42:50
get a local TV deal and and the promotion gets sold a couple of times,
1:43:02
and a guy named Arturo Mendoza ends up, who was not Puerto Rican,
1:43:06
ends up buying the company, and he's really only notable because he starts
1:43:11
bringing in other Latin American talent from outside of Puerto Rico. And that's when
1:43:15
the kind of melting pot. I started to talk about kind of starts.
1:43:21
You kind of get a start to get a mix of kind of the Mexican
1:43:25
Luca style, a little bit of high flyer stuff, as well as the
1:43:28
kind of more American brawling style, all sorts. Ua all starts to sort
1:43:35
of mix together. But he doesn't do very well, and he eventually sells
1:43:41
to Joe Ramiro, who brings in almost exclusively Americans, pushes most of the
1:43:46
local talent to the side, and his business just goes absolutely in the shitter,
1:43:51
and by the time the promotion closes in nineteen sixty six, there's only
1:43:55
two Hispanic wrestlers left on the roster. Now this of course leads a void
1:44:00
in which Clarence the Trial and Eddie Graham, Hey, finally a name we
1:44:04
might recognize, form the cleverly named Ellen g Promotions. Now they start running
1:44:13
regular cards, but again they're using foreign talent and they're not really doing very
1:44:17
well. They bring in Jose Letherio, Yeah, another name we might recognize,
1:44:24
and they build him as Puerto Rico's adoptive son. Now this is successful.
1:44:28
They end up getting a TV deal and new stars start to emerge,
1:44:32
and the only one of them which really stood out was l VIKINGO, who
1:44:38
is of course the father of the son of the Viking. Other promotions even
1:44:43
start to pop up. We got King Wrestling and National Wrestling. They have
1:44:46
their own championships, but they're not super important like they are today, and
1:44:53
because there's no Internet, they can bring in foreign champions Now they end up
1:44:58
rarely losing to the local competitors, but they're still bringing in some names.
1:45:03
But by the mid seventies all three promotions had closed. But why if things
1:45:08
were going so well did King and National, as well as Ellen G close
1:45:13
up shop. At this point, Ellen G has Dusty Rhodes, Mike Graham,
1:45:17
Les Thornton, Greg the Hammer, Valentine, Jerry Briscoe, Don the
1:45:21
Rock, Morocco, Dory Funk, They got names, you know. Well,
1:45:26
they closed because in nineteen seventy three, Victor Goviga and Carlos Cologne Senior
1:45:31
start Capital Sports Promotions and we would eventually become the World Wrestling Council. Guerrilla
1:45:40
Monsoon, oddly enough, was an early investor with them. Now they get
1:45:45
a TV deal right off the bat, and they make TV like the central
1:45:48
part of their promotion and super Statrey Oz de la Lucha Libre starts airing in
1:45:57
nineteen seventy three and it's still on the air two this day. I know
1:46:00
Rogers had his thirtieth anniversary, but they just had their fiftieth. So CSP
1:46:09
starts off relatively unknown, but they're used in local talent and they're programming highlighted
1:46:14
of course by Cologne himself and Carlos Cologne Senior is kind of kind of like
1:46:20
Vincer Command and Hulk Hogan all wrapped up into one person. So he's the
1:46:26
owner, he's the promoter, and he's the top baby face. But they
1:46:30
also start running shows on the island's more rural municipalities, thus avoided direct competition
1:46:38
with Lang in the city and routinely selling out stadiums due to the lack of
1:46:43
competition. Another way they separated themselves was through the use of gimmicks. They
1:46:48
brought in Victor the Wrestling Bear, and almost every star in the promotion at
1:46:54
the time worked with them. They were also influential and bringing in minis or
1:46:59
little people as we might record to them today, and that became an attraction.
1:47:03
They also featured women's wrestling, which also at the time kind of afterthought.
1:47:10
Attraction kind of thing, but women's wrestling never really establishes a foothold in
1:47:15
Puerto Rico, so it's going forward not going to be a major part of
1:47:19
the story. But it was the use of gimmick matches that would reverberate throughout
1:47:25
throughout the wrestling world the most. Puerto Rico was the first place to run
1:47:29
death matches, and they were the first place to use fire in their Matches'm
1:47:33
not sure that was a great contribution. You can leave that up to your
1:47:40
own decision. The promotion proved so popular, in fact, that in the
1:47:44
early eighties they actually joined the NWA, becoming the most prominent territory in the
1:47:48
Caribbean and now with a cast of well known local talent as well as Cologne's
1:47:54
newfound NWA cred and a veritable who's who stars at the time and regularly appearing
1:48:00
for the promotion. You got Dusty and Jack Riscoe. Still, you got
1:48:04
Harley Raced, the Funks, Giant Baba carry Von Eric, Ronnie Garvin under
1:48:11
the Giant. Now, during this time, the promotion is consistently ranked in
1:48:15
the top five promotions in the world. But as Cologne, it is Cologne's
1:48:19
yearless long feud forever fight if you will, against Abdul the Butcher that really
1:48:27
established Puerto Rico's reputation as a bloodbath territory and established itself was one of the
1:48:31
pillars upon which the hardcore style as we call it today of wrestling will be
1:48:36
born. Now, these were big stadium matches, and they involve fire and
1:48:41
chains and barbed wire and steel chairs and buckets and buckets of blood. And
1:48:45
if you're into that sort of thing again, you're gonna find all sorts of
1:48:49
it on YouTube. And you know, if you look at a picture of
1:48:55
Carlos Cologne or Abdul the Butcher today, their foreheads look like death mental band
1:49:00
logos. Absolutely but h And everything was going great for CSP until July seventeenth,
1:49:14
nineteen eighty eight, which would become one of the more infamous days in
1:49:17
pro wrestling history. Who'sa Gonzalez also known as Invader One, summoned Bruisie Bruiser
1:49:25
Brody, one of my all time favorites before, Like, you know,
1:49:30
I think I was nine when this happened. So this is a guy I've
1:49:32
seen on YouTube, But god, I wish this guy had stuck around a
1:49:36
little longer because he would have been great. Um. So he summons Bruiser
1:49:41
Brody into the showers. Uh, you know, because that's where he discussed
1:49:45
business back in those days. Uh, And they got into an altercation.
1:49:47
During the skirmish, Gonzalez stad Brody in in the long an injury. He
1:49:53
would later die because of now, I'm not gonna relitigate the Bruiser Brodie story
1:49:58
with plenty of places you can go two for that. Dark Side of the
1:50:00
Ring did a whole episode about it. But I say that to say the
1:50:06
prior to the murders, Capital Sports had planned to start selling pay per views
1:50:11
in the United States. You imagine what that what the wrestling landscape might have
1:50:15
looked like had that happened, But who knows what it might have been.
1:50:20
I mean that that idea gets scrapped and is never reconsidered, and the business
1:50:26
takes a huge hit. They eventually rebrand themselves as the World Wrestling Council,
1:50:30
and it really isn't until another promotion, International Wrestling Association comes along that the
1:50:36
popularity of wrestling in Puerto Rico starts to kind of come back, and you
1:50:42
know, much like WCW versus WWF back in the day. The competition ended
1:50:48
up bringing out the best in both federations, and they ended up running in
1:50:53
an honest to god invasion angle that actually worked. What that must have been
1:50:57
liked, and the iw eventually gets absorbed into the WWCU. Carlos Cologne Senior
1:51:04
would eventually retire and unretire, and retire and unretire, eventually piling up twenty
1:51:11
six rains with their world title, as well as many other mid card and
1:51:15
tag team rains along the way in his illustrious WWE Hall of Fame career.
1:51:23
He is of course the father of Carlito, who we probably all remember I
1:51:27
think we've seen during the Ruthless Aggression era, as well as Primo. He
1:51:32
is the uncle of Epico, and I'm not sure if he's any relation or
1:51:35
not to El Torito anyway, some other Puerto Rican wrestlers who famously may remember
1:51:43
Savio Vega and Los Barriqua's salve Ovega was of course instrumental in Stone Cold Steve
1:51:49
Auston's build, and of course the Puerto Rican legacy is carried on today with
1:51:55
Damien Priest and Zelina Vega, both who have pretty big weekends coming up this
1:52:00
Saturday at Backlash. All right, and if you'd like to learn more about
1:52:09
Puerto Rican wrestling history, visit your local library or look up Wikipedia or do
1:52:15
that, or just google it on Wikipedia. The damn dude, that was
1:52:24
a lot. That was good though. That was ed occasional I flipping some
1:52:30
pages over there. Dude, I had to like cut so much. I
1:52:35
basically stopped in nineteen eighty eight. I was like, this is too much.
1:52:40
But they're still going strong. I mean, the clowns really built a
1:52:44
fucking empire really down there. I mean, if you watch any of those
1:52:48
Tales of the Territory shows advice, did they all talking about how great it
1:52:53
was to work in Puerto Rico. Now, if anybody's wondering, we did
1:52:58
edit the show later, and uh, he actually went on for another hour
1:53:01
and a half. We just had to like finally just cut it so that
1:53:06
is able to edit it down. That's when we needed the music from the
1:53:13
Academy Awards to start playing. See it's nice just like this, just cut
1:53:18
them shorty um. Okay, yeah yeah, So let's let's go into this,
1:53:25
uh this pay per view here, first match, they have listed Matt
1:53:29
Riddle, Kevin Owens, and Sammy Zane versus the Bloodline Solo Sakoa, Jay
1:53:33
Husso and Jimmy Husso with Paul Hayman. Uh, this sixth man tag match.
1:53:41
Uh, you know what I'm thinking because there's no titles at stake,
1:53:45
and the ussos have been kind of losing matches since uh you know, well,
1:53:54
losing against Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane constantly since Wrestleman has been over or.
1:54:00
I feel like they might try. They need to win. They need
1:54:02
to win, I believe it or not over the good guys because Roman is
1:54:08
looking over their shoulder. He's he's sending He's sent the wise Man to look
1:54:14
over him. He's uh, he's had Solo SUKOA. I don't know what's
1:54:17
going on with him. I I you know, the other week, I
1:54:20
thought that something might go down Matt Riddle interfered, But it seems like more
1:54:28
and more every week there's cracks in the foundation of the Bloodline and I feel
1:54:33
like they need this win or you know, Roman's gonna have their ass in
1:54:38
a sling. But uh, I think was Solo they could get it done.
1:54:44
Uh you know what, what what did Kevin Owens, Sammy's a Matt
1:54:47
Riddle gain from this win. You know, there's nothing really at stake another
1:54:53
tag match. Uh, this is probably gonna be Honestly, I could see
1:54:59
this on opening the show, if not the United States title, maybe opening
1:55:02
the show, Dre, What do you think personally? I hope that this
1:55:13
probably will open the show. I kind of hope another match would open the
1:55:16
show, just to get it the hell out of the way this one.
1:55:21
Yes, it's probably gonna be Austin Theory winning the match and continuing. I
1:55:28
would like if Bobby Lashly won, but I don't think that's gonna happen.
1:55:33
So, yeah, it'll happen. There'll be a bunch of there'll be some
1:55:38
big spots. The best thing that can happen in this match is that Austin
1:55:43
Theory actually competes and the matching doesn't spend like over half the match hiding outside
1:55:50
of the ring while Bobby Lasht and Bronson rebeat the crap out of each other.
1:55:56
Right right? What do you think about the six man tag match with
1:56:00
Riddle, Owens, Sammy's and the Bloodline? Oh? Oh yeah, what's
1:56:03
your thoughts? I thought I had fallen to see we had missed and we
1:56:10
had missed myself. I was United States title match, but uh, well
1:56:15
I heard I heard the United States should open the show. But all right,
1:56:20
that's what I heard. My fault, my fault. I got six
1:56:24
man tag yea, yeah, the sixth tag that's gonna be Probably the Face
1:56:32
is going over right, I don't see. I don't see anything surprising happening,
1:56:39
and Jimmy and Jay taking a loss is going to further the storyline that
1:56:44
they have with Romans dissatisfaction with them and ultimately leaving, leading maybe to their
1:56:50
outsting at some point, and it'll be the match that'll uh you know,
1:56:58
send the people home, not send the people home happy, but you know,
1:57:01
make the people happy with the Faces getting a win. Really, honestly,
1:57:06
this this match is really all about as most blood line matches are and
1:57:12
have been. It's about the bloodline and furthering whatever storyline they have going,
1:57:17
which right now is Jimmy and Jay being on a losing streak and possibly getting
1:57:23
kicked out. So I don't see that changing with them winning this matchin anyway.
1:57:29
Doyle, what well, what do you think it's going to be the
1:57:32
outcome of this six man tag team match? Yeah? I mean I also
1:57:40
think the Faces are gonna go over. Really, the only intrigue here is
1:57:45
what is Solo going to do? Right? You know, Hayman said to
1:57:48
him the other night to night's the night or whatever, but then that never
1:57:51
paid off, So I'm wondering what it was the night for? Right.
1:57:56
Maybe we'll find out. This might be a great time to finally either either
1:58:02
turn Celo on both of the Uzos or just Jay or or something like that.
1:58:10
But I think the Faces are gonna win, and if there's a surprise
1:58:16
per se, I mean, I feel like you could say this with every
1:58:20
almost every high profile match. But well, Randy Orton get involved. He's
1:58:25
got a little history there. He's Riddle's buddy. Uh. The Uzos beat
1:58:29
them for the tag championship. Uh, this, if they're gonna bring them
1:58:32
back, this might be a way to do it um And that would be
1:58:38
really the only really intriguing thing here I think for me. And unless this
1:58:44
is where they do the UM do the double pin situation or whatever and split
1:58:50
the titles up and give the Uzos one of the belts and the and Sammy
1:58:55
and Kevin the others that I don't know, but would they pull that off
1:58:58
at a six man tag match though. Oh yeah, it's going around dre.
1:59:04
They'll do whatever they want if they do Yeah, yeah, that's right
1:59:08
true. But yeah, I think the faces go over. It would be
1:59:14
that this whole Yeah, yeah, I was. It would be interesting though,
1:59:16
if after they lost, if Solo just gave both of them to beat
1:59:19
gave Jimmy and Jay to beat down, and just mauled the crap out of
1:59:24
him for losing, Like if that was some secret directive he had gotten from
1:59:27
Roman, that would be that would be interesting. Or maybe it's just Jay,
1:59:31
Maybe Jimmy NJ turn Maybe maybe Jimmy and Solo turn on Jay. Oh
1:59:36
yeah, I could see the Yeah maybe, Like Jimmy is the one who
1:59:40
gets pinned, so Solo starts beating the crap out of him, and then
1:59:43
Jay gets to fighting back to defend his brother, and then yeah, that's
1:59:47
really the only intrigue here. Yeah, Like I said, it's all about
1:59:50
the bloodline. Carlos, am I the only one who's crazy to think that
1:59:54
the bloodline might win this. Uh yes, that you are the one crazy
2:00:01
enough to believe that they're actually gonna win, Because it looks like this is
2:00:06
all leading to the separation of the blood Line and just causing more rift between
2:00:14
the brothers. Even though they reconciled to get the title match at WrestleMania,
2:00:23
they're they're causing that rift again, and who knows if it's going to be
2:00:28
just both of them breaking off, you know, because of they seeing how
2:00:33
Sammy's been telling them that Roman is only out for himself and he doesn't want
2:00:38
anything unless they're able to help him retain his title title down no longer titles.
2:00:45
But I think one interesting twist might be what if now it's Jay that's
2:00:56
that ends up being loyal, Like someone have brought up that Jimmy takes the
2:01:00
pen and then Solo starts beating on him and Jay has to try to stop
2:01:09
Solo, but then he ends up beating Jimmy along with Solo, just because
2:01:14
in the beginning of the blood Line, Jay was the first outsider to try
2:01:17
to challenge Roman, and now he is now fully committed to Roman, you
2:01:23
know, vice versa role reversal, things like that, you know. But
2:01:28
I do believe that the faces Sammy, Matt Riddle, and Koe will end
2:01:34
up winning hands down. So in your scenario, is Jay getting is Jimmy
2:01:40
getting beat down his punishment or is he getting beat down and kicked out.
2:01:45
He's getting beat down as punishment, which would eventually later on will end up
2:01:51
him getting kicked out, and now it'll be him trying to redeem his brother.
2:01:56
So he just got to wear an asshopping and then still be in the
2:01:58
blood line like his cool. Damn damn man, that's how Jay got into
2:02:03
the first place. Yeah, that's what I'm well, yeah, but yeah,
2:02:06
but that was like in a match. He like he beat him down.
2:02:10
He beat Jimmy down to make him quit, and then they made him
2:02:12
smit. But damn, just like just fucking abusive relationship status, Like you
2:02:18
lost one. You fit to wear this ass whooping. You got that gowled
2:02:24
with black eyes and the other channel, right thing, it's pretty good,
2:02:27
damn dark ship. Hey, that's the way I roll. You lose them,
2:02:32
you just get stomped out, but you still in. You have to
2:02:36
you have to commit to that whole uh you know, myb my mob kind
2:02:42
of storylines, because this is where it kind of is right now. Man,
2:02:47
once and you can never leave. Uh. The second match they have
2:02:53
listed here is Cody Rhodes versus Brock Lessner just a regular singles match. Um,
2:03:00
Like I said, the way I feel like this is gonna go down
2:03:02
is Cody might win with a roll up and Brock will just beat his ass
2:03:08
down and we might not see Cody for a while and it'll just further their
2:03:13
feud and we'll see them first each other again. Not I don't really feel
2:03:17
like what Saudi would that be? Like have be way too soon for them
2:03:24
to go again, but fuck it, you know, yeah, we want
2:03:31
to see Brock Lesner again, you know, like I could see that totally
2:03:35
happening. But yeah, I like this. I think Cody needs this win
2:03:42
over Brock. I mean, if he's gonna he can't be Roman, you
2:03:45
want to still be considered a legitimate, uh main event star. I think
2:03:50
beating Brock will be definitely be a good way to keep his head above water
2:03:55
here. Um, Drey, who you think Broxton destroyed Todi after he takes
2:04:00
some suplex City or do you think Cody's gonna get the win here? Yeah?
2:04:04
See, I was thinking about Bianca and EO Sky and I'm kind of
2:04:09
wondering about now I'm joking. Um, I was like not again, No,
2:04:16
No, I'm joking. Um, and uh, I think Cody wins
2:04:27
this one as well. Um, I kind of. I just I have
2:04:32
a hard time seeing them. I know, I know there's that door you're
2:04:38
kind of on the thing like he has to go through the trials and tribulations
2:04:41
of Cody Rose where you come back up. I just don't know how far
2:04:44
they're gonna beat him down. I don't. I can't see him taking another
2:04:47
loss to Lessner after just losing to Roman, so I feel like he's gonna
2:04:55
win. I don't think that there's gonna be a post match beat down by
2:05:00
Brock that's gonna put Cody out of action for an extended period of time.
2:05:05
There might be a post batch beat down from Brock, but I don't think
2:05:10
again, I don't. I don't think it's gonna be one that's gonna take
2:05:14
Cody off television for an extended period of time. They just did the brand
2:05:17
this draft and the brand split. Cody's probably the biggest face that they have
2:05:23
on Raw, even though we already discussed that. We think Seth is going
2:05:27
to be the one to get the title and they're gonna have that tournament and
2:05:31
they got to crown a champion and my belief is that the finals is going
2:05:38
to come down to Cody and Seth. That can't happen if Brock puts them
2:05:42
out of action for months or more so so Cody. I think Cody will
2:05:50
win. He'll ride that momentum into whatever tournament or wherever they have to crown
2:05:58
the new World have weight Champion. My question is that I want to pose
2:06:03
to y'all real quick, is do y'all think this match will be the main
2:06:08
event or the Bad Bunny Damian Priests match will be the main event? Bad
2:06:12
Bunny Damian Priest. Yeah, I think so too. Like, like Doyle
2:06:15
said, his fucking faces everywhere, right, Okay, just just want to
2:06:19
make sure we was all on the same page because you know, on paper,
2:06:21
the Cody Lesner match seems like the big match, like the main event
2:06:26
match, but it's in Puerto Rico. We know that, you know,
2:06:30
what the what the crowd actually wants to see most Okay, yeah, we're
2:06:33
all on the same page with that. Doyle, what are you thinking?
2:06:41
Yeah? Well, actually, kind of to Drey's point, this match would
2:06:44
have been so much more interesting with steaks, you know, like I guess
2:06:48
you can't make it a number one contender match because you're about to do the
2:06:53
tournament, right, But like making this enough that was just immediately giving this
2:06:58
some kind of steaks. Somehow the winner gets a buy in the first round
2:07:01
of the tournament something, you know, like that would just immediately make this
2:07:06
more interesting. But um no, I think I think I think they're gonna
2:07:14
I think they're gonna put hard times on Cody. I think I think he's
2:07:17
gonna lose. Uh. I think he's gonna put up a hell of a
2:07:21
fight, you know, I think he'll eventually get the win back at some
2:07:26
point. Uh No, I think I think he's gonna lose him He's gonna
2:07:30
keep losing for a while, or you know, he'll beat you know,
2:07:34
glorified jobbers. But I expect him to kind of lose some big matches in
2:07:40
the foreseeable future. And and you know that this new title is not his
2:07:47
story. You know, I said it before the the WWE Championship that his
2:07:51
father couldn't win. That's the story. So eventually you're gonna have to bring
2:07:56
him around a roman somehow. Maybe he wins my in the bank or something
2:08:01
like that. But I think he's gonna be beaten down and I think this
2:08:05
is this is I was gonna say to start now, to start the continuation
2:08:11
of that. So yeah, I think Brock wins. M. Carlos,
2:08:18
Yeah, Doyle need to stop staying in my notes. M. I also
2:08:24
do that Bray still's mine, I still yours, and you know it's a
2:08:31
paper on the test. So yeah, I agree with Doyle. I do
2:08:35
believe that Brock was probably end up being victorious in this match reason, you
2:08:41
know, just like the was outlining that Cody Rose is this is the the
2:08:48
road of suffrage or suffering for Cody suffering. But I don't think that he's
2:08:56
uh gonna win this match. But if they do have the tournament where it's
2:09:01
like six or eight you know, wrestlers from wrong that end up in this
2:09:07
tournament, I could see Cody actually winning in that matchup, so he could
2:09:11
be in the finals with Seth. But as far as you know, to
2:09:16
build up that hype that Brock got the win over him and it was a
2:09:20
decisive one, can Cody overcome the odds to beat Brock to face Seth Rollins
2:09:26
for the final match for the title. So that's pretty much where I was
2:09:33
going with that one. So two of us are two of us are on
2:09:39
Cody's side, two people on the lessoners side. Interesting. I just want
2:09:45
to point out that me and Doyle called the whole Roman reigns retaining the title
2:09:50
at WrestleMania. So we got that. We got that written down somewhere or
2:09:56
recorded. M Oh, don't worry, I'll have that written down on my
2:10:01
my paperwork for the next year and a half. Roman Range is gonna retain.
2:10:09
Uh. Next on the mat on the list here, they had Ria
2:10:13
Ripley versus Selena Vega for the SmackDown Women's Championship. It's real, I mean,
2:10:22
come on, Selena Vega hasn't won a singles match a singles match since
2:10:26
twenty twenty one, and she had them yea Action for a minute until she
2:10:35
popped back up with Legato del Phantasma. Yeah. The last time I remember
2:10:45
Selena wrestling was when she was Queens Elena and then they had that one,
2:10:50
uh that one match with Red and then Ria doubled her over to be on
2:10:54
top of her, and that's the last time I remember her wrestling. Yeah.
2:11:00
Um, I mean it was pretty cut and dry hair. I mean,
2:11:03
Ria is gonna destroy There's no argument they can make the man feel like
2:11:09
as a group, we can all agree and sweep this one, right,
2:11:13
we all is gonna win. I do not believe ri is going to destroy
2:11:18
her because it is in Puerto Rico. It's going to get some offense in
2:11:24
match, right, right, right, It's not gonna be like like Rea
2:11:26
versus Charlotte and WrestleMania. But I believe Zelina will have a good showing and
2:11:31
they're gonna she's gonna get her moment. She's gonna get her offense in because
2:11:35
of the Puerto Rican of the obviously hometown crowd. But ultimately, yes,
2:11:41
Ria is going to win. M Well, yeah, I think as we've
2:11:46
learned, the Puerto Ricans love to cheer their own and if you give them
2:11:52
other people, they will stop attending and put your company out of business.
2:11:56
And then people learned that, right, So, like, I think out
2:12:00
would be huge, but it's not right. It would be huge if there
2:12:05
had been some build up to it, if she was primed to be a
2:12:07
champion. Sure, but yeah, it's not gonna happen. What's really interesting
2:12:11
to me, honestly, I want to know, and I don't mean this
2:12:15
in any kind of proposed way. I want to know what Zelina Vega is
2:12:18
going to wear, because anybody who follows what she had her outfits in the
2:12:24
ring, Lena Vega is probably one of the best dressed wrestlers in WW When
2:12:31
it comes to ring attire, she does not fucking miss no. All of
2:12:37
her outfits are absolute fires. So I'm wondering what she about to pull out
2:12:41
for Puerto Rico's that street fight or sixth game coming out? Um, I
2:12:50
don't know when that thing's coming out, but hell, that jury ship fish
2:12:52
she did for the rubble m heat for that game, you know, so
2:12:58
she's u the special commentator. I don't think she's gonna do that for this
2:13:03
because it's the hometown crowd. She's gonna do something specific for Puerto Rico for
2:13:07
that fat national product. Absolutely yeah, just whatever it is she bought to
2:13:13
kill it. I also like to point out that despite RYA's association with Dominic,
2:13:22
she's still having trouble getting heel heat on herself, and I think her
2:13:26
beating at least for the night. Uh, Zelena Vega in Puerto Rico will
2:13:31
get her fucking the heat at least for the night. Oh yeah, She's
2:13:37
gonna be booed. You know, instead of the you know kind of fifty
2:13:43
fifty reaction even or even I would say sixty forty face reaction, She's gonna
2:13:50
be a fucking heel And I think that's good. Yeah, it'll be good
2:13:56
for the night, it'll be good for the show, it'll come across good
2:13:58
on television, and then Monday they'll be back in the station Belchia are all
2:14:03
over again. But for the night, Oh yeah, baby, m hmm.
2:14:11
I mean she'd have to do something like really fucked up to Lena Vega,
2:14:13
like during the match or after the match, to carry the hill heat
2:14:18
back here home to the States, And I don't think that the w W
2:14:22
would book that. I mean, she gave Beth Phoenix the double concerto after
2:14:28
Edge had already quit. M hm. You know she's done right, Yeah,
2:14:33
she definitely has mhm. She still got this too. Yeah. Okay,
2:14:39
so group agreement via you gotta win. Uh next match they have home
2:14:45
on here is Seth Freaking Rollins versus almost with MVP, which to me sc
2:14:50
out of like left field. Um, I mean Seth Freaking Rollins is gonna
2:14:56
win this, uh, same kind of with Cody Rhodes here. They need
2:15:03
the momentum going into this world title tournament at Class Nightive champions at in Saudi
2:15:11
So and come on like you can really have almost you know, free agent
2:15:16
Almos be Seth freaking Rollins. I don't think so. I think Seth Rollins
2:15:24
will get thrown around a bit. At the end of the day. I
2:15:26
feel like, somehow, some way he's gonna be able to curb stomp the
2:15:30
big side of a bitch Drey Oh, the most unnecessary, unpromoted nobody asked
2:15:39
for this match on the entire card. Hopefully this is the first match and
2:15:45
they just get this shit over and done with and out of the fucking way.
2:15:50
Yes, Seth is going to win this. I don't know what's much
2:15:56
more we can say other about it, other than ranting about how terrible the
2:16:00
build up is and how this match came out of nowhere. I mean,
2:16:03
this past Monday, Seth gave more attention to the title and Hayman and the
2:16:11
Bloodline and had a match who do Who Do? No, he didn't have
2:16:15
a match this past Monday, but he gave more attention to that than his
2:16:20
upcoming match with Omas. Like they did nothing on the go home show to
2:16:26
promote this match whatsoever. They just said, hey, this is happening,
2:16:33
and they was like okay, and like so there's no investment. There's no
2:16:37
reason for anybody to give two shits about this match. Everybody knows who's gonna
2:16:41
win, So throw it on first, give it eight minutes, let Seth
2:16:48
win and then move on. Yeah. Well, I mean his I think
2:16:56
on Twitter his reaction was, um, okay to find out that that match
2:17:03
had been bucked. Yeah, this is totally a why you know, like
2:17:09
why why? Similar to why Almost and brock it? Resulting why? Right?
2:17:13
Right? I really can't see Almost winning, but he has to win
2:17:20
a match at some point, right, Like no, I think we talked
2:17:24
about this a little bit earlier. He does win matches against local jobbers,
2:17:28
but he has to be he has to win a big match at some point,
2:17:31
only if they plan on doing no, only if they plan on doing
2:17:35
something with him. Otherwise he's just he's the big guy that other guys beat
2:17:39
to look good. I mean he if he's if he's not already your redeemable,
2:17:46
he's getting very close to it, right, Like he might as well
2:17:50
come out uh in the Giant Gonzalez his costume, you know, with the
2:17:56
furry shoulders and the painted on it. Um. The only way, and
2:18:03
I mean the only way I could see Almost somehow winning this match is if
2:18:11
immediately, uh, he and Seth faced each other in the tournament for the
2:18:16
championship and Seth beats him. Uh. But I I there's just no there's
2:18:24
no reasons for Almost to win this match. Uh. And as we all
2:18:28
think, I think that Seth is going to be the new champion, you
2:18:31
can't have him losing a match here right before that. So yeah, it's
2:18:35
it's Seth. It's Seth quote unquote freaking rollins. This goes back to WrestleMania
2:18:46
for me and his match with Lesner and why I say, oh, Moss,
2:18:50
if they were going to do anything with him, he should have won
2:18:52
that match at WrestleMania. Imagine if this was Omas coming off from WrestleMania having
2:18:58
beat Brock Lester sure Feast and Seth problems, then it's a toss up.
2:19:03
We could continuably see Oma's winning this match and they could go either way,
2:19:07
and even if it had had very little to no build up, there would
2:19:09
at least be some interest in it because we'd be like Yo, Omas just
2:19:13
whooped up on Lesner at WrestleMania and got a dub, got a significant dub.
2:19:18
But nope, Yeah, probably would have been uh Wayne's top three picks
2:19:24
for the title. Yeah, mm hmmm, he could have. He could
2:19:30
have been a legitimate contender for that. Yep, absolutely, Carlos, were
2:19:35
you thinking, Yeah, I'm thinking, uh, Seth H finds a way
2:19:41
to get that w over Omas. Just you know, it's gonna be like
2:19:46
maybe seven minute match. Almost can't go that long. Guys haven't build up
2:19:56
any stamina, so who knows how many how many moves he's gonna be able
2:20:01
to pull off before he gets winded, and maybe Seth can carry him to
2:20:07
like maybe the twelve minute mark. But this is gonna be a very quick
2:20:11
match obviously, And um, I think I would prefer to see Seth Ronalds
2:20:18
try to give almost uh a pedigree instead of a curb stop. If we're
2:20:24
trying to call out we'll finisher Ronald uses for this match, you're calling pedigree,
2:20:31
I'm gonna try. I'm gonna call pedigree. Yeah, Oh, I
2:20:33
was gonna call a stop off like the second rope or something. Yeah,
2:20:37
just the top rope, all right? They never know. Maybe it could
2:20:41
be a little bit of both. Yeah, you might have to use both
2:20:45
to put him down. Mm hmm. Like hell, Kip the almost even
2:20:48
take a pedigree, Yeah right, big as that. We'll find out on
2:20:56
Saturday. He can bend over and fall to Matt for a curbstall. Which
2:21:01
ship trying to fit that big motherfucker between seth problems legs for a pedigree.
2:21:09
All right, we'll get into the match that Dre was just too goddamn excited
2:21:16
about. We're gonna know the United States Championship match, Austin Theory versus Bobby
2:21:20
Lastly versus Bronson Rey and a triple threat. Now Bronson Reid is on a
2:21:28
different He's on Raw and Bobby in Austin Theory are now on SmackDown, So
2:21:37
if there were any possibility, it would be Bobby. But I feel like
2:21:43
they're gonna keep Austin Theory going with this title Rain. I feel like he's
2:21:48
just gonna somehow sneaking and and may I feel like Bronson Reid would probably take
2:21:52
the pen um. I feel like Lashly, if he's gonna do anything,
2:21:56
he's gonna be be fed to Roman because Roman doesn't have many opponents on SmackDown.
2:22:03
I think his first Romans first feud would be with like aj Styles in
2:22:07
the OC. But eventually, you know, Bobby's gonna you know, be
2:22:13
in that picture. But uh yeah, I you know, it took him
2:22:16
be some shit. He'll move Bobby and Bronson will do all the work,
2:22:22
and then Bronson will get super winded after five minutes and Bobby will probably spear
2:22:28
him and Austin will move out of the way and Austin will he's uh,
2:22:33
you know, his finisher, and then cover Bronson and then it'll protect Lashly.
2:22:39
That's how I see that gone down, Trey. Yeah. I was
2:22:43
always saying in my original ran before I was so rudely interrupted. Yeah.
2:22:50
Yeah, Austin, he's probably gonna win this. Hopefully he wins it in
2:22:54
a heelish way that actually benefits him and makes them come off as a calculating
2:23:03
opportunist as opposed to a cowardly opportunist. I think there's a difference between the
2:23:11
two, and one serves a heal better than the other. Yeah. Lastly,
2:23:15
and Bronson reader are probably gonna do all the work because they have the
2:23:18
pre existing beef and they've been going at it so they'll have their big,
2:23:22
big meaty men slapping meat match and then they'll be probably rag doll in theory
2:23:28
around like she'll bitch OUs out of here, the saying about you, and
2:23:33
then he'll sneak in. But he'll win. And I don't see this when
2:23:39
doing anything for him, just like pretty much every win he's had has done
2:23:46
nothing for him. But he'll win. He'll continue on as the US champion
2:23:50
because agreed. I agree with you that Lastly, given that he's gonna SmackDown
2:23:56
now, is probably destined to face Roman reigns at some point. My guess
2:24:00
is probably summers Lam. Bronson reads on Raw, so he damn show you
2:24:03
when in his fucker. Yeah, uh yeah, I pretty much agree with
2:24:13
both of you. Uh he uh yeah. I mean, Lastly should be
2:24:18
a contender a Roman on SmackDown. He doesn't need anything with the US title
2:24:24
and uh Bronson read it's gonna be on Raw in the US titles and going
2:24:28
there, So yeah, it does take away a lot of the intrigue.
2:24:33
I hope he wins with chicken shit heel tactics. I liked Drey's suggestion that
2:24:37
it be more of an outsmart than uh than just a cowardly lion kind of
2:24:43
deal. I agree with that. I would like to talk about Bronson Read
2:24:48
a little bit. Um. I never watched NXT, so was he presented
2:24:54
as like what was his presentation in NXT? Was he like this? He
2:25:00
was a face? Yeah, he was a face, But I don't know,
2:25:05
well, did he did he wear like these sunglasses and these nice jackets
2:25:09
that don't really fit him? Because that was kind of out of left field
2:25:13
when he started with that shit. Uh. But I do like that they're
2:25:16
calling him the natural disaster because he reminds me a lot of uh when talk
2:25:22
about turned on the Bushwhackers and Typhoon with earthquake and was the natural disasters he
2:25:31
looks like his outfit like and his body type, he looks a lot like
2:25:35
Typhoon to me. He does. I don't know if like that's like an
2:25:41
easter egg that they're calling him the natural disaster or what. Uh. Other
2:25:48
than that, I don't have much use for Bronson Read yet. Maybe he'll,
2:25:52
you know, maybe he'll show me something. Uh. Lastly, of
2:25:56
course is lastly he's fucking awesome. Uh. But yeah, I think the
2:26:01
theory's gonna retain and buy chicken shit means uh, Carlos Okay, So I
2:26:16
am actually gonna go with Bobby Lashley is gonna win the United States Championship.
2:26:22
Whoa old Choicecotton, And I'm gonna go with it. Lets see if it
2:26:28
works out. The reason being is they still owe him. He was WrestleMania
2:26:35
at all, he's been getting it. And then the other thing is if
2:26:41
he if Austin loses the belt on a triple threat, it doesn't really ing
2:26:46
him because it's a triple threat. And then the other thing that I have
2:26:50
is if Austin does lose the belt, then that kind of frees him to
2:26:56
try to go for the Big Belt versus Roman. So it's just one of
2:27:03
those things where I feel like he Austin can probably progress a little bit more
2:27:11
and then Bobby can still kind of hold on to that title until they can
2:27:16
find someone on SmackDown that will be the new mid card title holder. Because
2:27:22
I think as far as Bobby's concern, yeah, he probably does deserve a
2:27:30
title shot against Roman, but I think he did lose that one time.
2:27:37
Didn't Bobby lose a title to Big Ye And then they had that triple threat
2:27:41
match with Roman, and then Roman ended up winning. Yeah, so you
2:27:48
know, you know, based on that whole thing, just I feel that,
2:27:52
Bobby, even though that's the whole thing where I just brought up the
2:27:56
triple threat match, that to really count against you because there's a triple match,
2:28:01
and if we bring up Steiner math, you know you have a thirty
2:28:05
third and one third chance of beating him. But he's a genetic creak.
2:28:09
So you can take your thirty third and one third chance of being beaten and
2:28:16
reduce that back down to twenty five and whatever. I'm not gonna keep going
2:28:20
into it. But regardless of the fact, I think I have a remarkable
2:28:24
village to remember the promo. Good for you, But I'm digressing, and
2:28:33
I believe that bobbe Lashley comes out victorious. Uncle Bobby. That's a bold
2:28:41
choice. But Carlos, there's something I gotta I gotta challenge you. Go
2:28:45
on, man, go ahead on the play. You mentioned that this could
2:28:48
free awsome Theory to go after the big belt. Come on, mane look
2:28:56
at the job that he's had to do on the raw roster as the as
2:29:01
the US title champion. Theory still hasn't recover from from Roman telling him that
2:29:07
Daddy's not here, No Mo, He's still recovering from that burn yet.
2:29:13
I didn't say he was gonna But you still have to have people go out
2:29:18
there and challenge Roman. Yeah, people gotta challenge, but they also have
2:29:20
to at least give some semblance of, you know, standing a chance.
2:29:26
I could think Bobby's ahead of him in line, right, I can see.
2:29:31
I could literally see Austin Theory trying to challenge Roman reigns and Roman literally
2:29:37
laughing in his face in the ring. That's the whole point, because you
2:29:43
gotta have, you gotta have. You gotta have someone out there that could
2:29:46
kind of hang as far as vocally wise and cutting promos while he's back and
2:29:52
forth with Roman. We all know, Bob, he's not gonna be able
2:29:56
to do that. Sure. I mean, if you gotta build, if
2:30:00
you got to build a fight for him to come either to Saudi Arabia or
2:30:05
or if the next title defense that Roman's gonna have is a SummerSlam, you
2:30:11
gotta have someone that's gonna build up the hype again. And I just don't
2:30:16
see that Bobby's gonna be able to do that. And this will give,
2:30:20
this, this will get, this will give Austin a chance you gotta get,
2:30:24
You gotta get these guys. You trusted him with the belt for this
2:30:26
long. You trusted him to hold down Raw while Roman was pretty much holding
2:30:33
both belts captive. But did he know well how many main events was main
2:30:39
event cards was Raw was very prominent and either the either starting off raw or
2:30:50
and or having the last hour of Raw throughout the whole year. Okay,
2:30:56
I hear you in all seriousness though, um for real, like in all
2:31:03
seriousness, he yes, he did get the win over John Cena. That
2:31:05
win did absolutely nothing for him. Nobody looked at him any different after getting
2:31:11
that win over Sena because of the way the match played out because he fucking
2:31:16
tapped. Well if that didn't help. If that, if you have him
2:31:22
going over Bobby Lashly and Bronson read, then that win will should give him
2:31:26
the bump that you think he deserves to get. Respect. It could depending
2:31:31
on how he wins. And that's why I mentioned, um that he needs
2:31:37
to win in a cunning way and not a cowardly way. We were all
2:31:41
pretty much suspect, well except for you, but those who us who think
2:31:43
Theory's gonna win suspect that he's gonna win through some sort of villainy some some
2:31:50
some sneak tap, but it has to be that he sees it, that
2:31:54
he sees seizes an opportunity, as opposed to just sneaks like a coward.
2:32:00
Like for example, what was the triple threat match that he won off of
2:32:05
the Uh it was him Lashly and who was the third person in that match,
2:32:11
but they had Theory up for a move. Lashly speared that person,
2:32:18
Theory fell on top of him and got the pin. But what should have
2:32:22
worked, but it was executed poorly, so it didn't work out that well.
2:32:24
But that kind of match, it didn't really do anything for him,
2:32:28
And that's been the problem with Theory this whole time. Also, just side
2:32:31
note another argument against Theory trying to challenge Lessner. They're both heels and unless
2:32:37
you're gonna put Theory on a face turn he damned for any challenging Roman reigns.
2:32:41
They don't do heel versus heels stuff like that, really, And and
2:32:46
Theory eight turn in face because don't nobody like Theory enough to make him a
2:32:50
face hell So that there's there's that, but even but just getting back to
2:32:56
the whole aspect of Theory just getting over is. Like I said, nothing
2:33:01
that he's accomplished has changed how people view him the whole. Like I said,
2:33:07
the match was Sina was supposed to be a feather in his cap.
2:33:11
Nobody looked at him any different. He's had these title defenses and none of
2:33:18
it has really built him up. You argued that he was the one holding
2:33:20
down Raw while le Roman has been the champion. I would argue that seth
2:33:28
Rawlins did way more to hold down Raw as a non champion than Austin Theory
2:33:33
did as the US champion. It's like something I've said this repeatedly, something
2:33:39
about Austin Theory is just not connecting with the fans. Yet. He still
2:33:43
has not discovered what his character is. Since separating from Vince, he's been
2:33:52
this guy that's just as this moment, is perpetually stuck in this prove himself
2:33:58
phase and nothing that he's done has proven. It's just it's not sticking for
2:34:03
some reason. I agree. He has the talent, he has the ring
2:34:07
ability, he has skill on the MIC. He just he can't quite put
2:34:13
it all together in a way that's truly resonating with the audience yet and until
2:34:20
he figures that out, he ain't getting out the mid card, and anything
2:34:24
they do try to do to put him above it is gonna feel forced.
2:34:31
I like him, I think like I think he is a piece of shit.
2:34:35
He'll I think he's working. Yeah. I wish about him was that
2:34:41
he would go back to the Van Dyke because that start, look, he
2:34:46
was going for a Tony Stark look. Yeah, well that well whatever that
2:34:50
beard he has now, Oh that struggled beard. Ain't it like he looks
2:34:54
like on Jackass when they glued the guy's face and the pubs on it.
2:34:58
Yeah that that that thing ain't filling in. Bro Let it go. Just
2:35:03
keep the low facial haircut. That that that's you, right? All right?
2:35:09
Guys? Moving on? Uh, Bianca bell Air champion versus EO Sky
2:35:15
with most likely Bailey and Dakota Kai for the women's Raw championship match. I
2:35:20
think, no matter how much interference, I think Bianca bell Air is gonna
2:35:26
walk out still a champion, playing simple. Uh. And I still think
2:35:33
that they're hinting. I think Bailey in Dakota might cost EO Sky the title
2:35:39
because they kind of look like they were hinting at you. Know the group
2:35:45
breaking up, you know, so I'm kind of going down that route,
2:35:50
like causing EO Sky to lose her chance of winning this title is gonna further
2:35:56
damage control of breaking up um Plain and Simple Dream. I'm in the same
2:36:07
boat. I believe Bianco bell Lair is going to win. I am not
2:36:11
one hundred percent on this one, like I have been on all the previous
2:36:16
picks. If and this is a big if, but if there was any
2:36:20
kind of surprise that could happen on this pay per view, of which I
2:36:24
don't think there's going to be any, but if there could be one,
2:36:28
this is the match that could deliver the surprise in terms of EO Sky getting
2:36:31
a surprise win over Bianco bel Air and shocking everyone. Again, I don't
2:36:37
think that's gonna happen. I think there's maybe like a two percent chance of
2:36:39
that happening, But if they wanted to book it, this would be the
2:36:43
match to do it, and this would be the place to do it because
2:36:46
this is the only one match that has an opening to me for a true
2:36:50
surprise, because we all know how great EO Sky is as a singles performer,
2:36:56
and that video package they put together for her. Shit was I was
2:37:01
surprisingly excellent for a match that seemingly has a predetermined outcome. I saw that
2:37:11
that video package they put together for EO Scott Monday, I was like,
2:37:13
shit, that's an impressive matt thing. It actually made me give a shit
2:37:20
about this match as opposed to all these other ones. I was like,
2:37:24
it reminded me of just how good Eo Sky is, despite you know,
2:37:28
obviously seeing her in the ring and seeing her performed, but reminded me of
2:37:31
her potential. And I think Eo Sky is primed for a singles run,
2:37:37
not a singles run as champion, but just as going to going single more
2:37:43
so than Dakota Kai. So I do believe that Bianco Bella is going to
2:37:48
win, and the seeds of descent and damage control could be furthered through some
2:37:54
means, whether they cost Eo the match or they come out in interfere against
2:38:00
her will, like maybe maybe we get a backstage shape before the match where
2:38:03
EO tells them to stay in the back, like did not come out like
2:38:07
you know, I'm I got I got this. I'm gonna take her all
2:38:09
by myself, And they come out anyway and it pisses her off and she
2:38:13
gets distracted and ends up losing or something of that nature. So, yeah,
2:38:18
the storyline, and this is obviously EO Sky and damage control and you
2:38:24
know, fractures cracks in the in the group. But if EO Sky somehow
2:38:35
shocks the world and wins, just remember you heard it here first, that's
2:38:39
true. Uh, Doyle, do you agree? What are you feeling?
2:38:46
Well? I? Uh, I feel like the WWE always does a good
2:38:50
job with their video packages. Uh So I'm not sure that should be a
2:38:56
big surprise, Like somebody as talented as EO Sky that has is enough on
2:39:03
film highlights, you should be able to piece together a nice little two minute
2:39:09
clip that will instantly make me care about you more than I did two and
2:39:13
a half minutes ago. Uh. But yeah, I mean I think Bianca
2:39:20
is gonna win. Um, but I'm actually kind of getting sold on EO
2:39:24
Sky a little more. Um. I just hope this isn't super overbooked,
2:39:31
you know, Like I hope, I hope this hasn't may come a damnage
2:39:35
control break up angle or whatever. Uh or or Bailey in Dakota continuing and
2:39:43
maybe picking up a third somewhere or something. I don't know, Um,
2:39:50
I do really like EO Sky this, This in a vacuum, This might
2:39:54
be the match of the night. Uh if it's not Big Schmas with all
2:40:00
interference. UM, I am getting really fucking tired of Brianca bel Air feuding
2:40:05
with Damage Control though it's time for everybody to move on. I guess they're
2:40:11
on different brands now, so oh no, they're no, no, they're
2:40:13
gonna be fuck yes, they're supposed to be over at fucking war games.
2:40:22
But like I feel like, and the reason I'm starting to get sold on
2:40:28
EO Sky is is because I was talking earlier about what are They're just gonna
2:40:33
end Brianca's Raw Women's Championship rain and start a new one with SmackDown title.
2:40:41
Uh so maybe? And I feel like every now and then they got to
2:40:45
pull something that nobody sees coming, just to make, you know, just
2:40:50
to make his second guess everything right every now and then and in a vacuum.
2:40:56
If it wasn't if Ria hadn't just uh won the title, and if
2:41:01
she hadn't, if she wasn't involved in this faction, and if Dawn wasn't
2:41:05
so over, I might peg that one for oh fuck anything had happened kind
2:41:11
of moment, but this might be and anything had happened kind of moment.
2:41:20
On the record, I'm still gonna say Bianca retains, but I can really
2:41:26
make a case for EO Sky the more I think about it, and maybe
2:41:33
by Saturday I will change my mind. But I'm gonna I'm gonna say Bianca.
2:41:41
Okay, Carlos, so are you thinking the same thing. Yeah,
2:41:46
I'm gonna go with Bianca just because of this whole damage controlled thing. He's
2:41:52
got a different storyline, different path he's got to go through, and whether
2:41:58
it's Bay and Dakota ganging up on EO and trying to trying to stop her
2:42:05
from taking Bailey's place, because Bailey is oh no, she's not the role
2:42:13
model, but she is one of the four four swimming and she was brought
2:42:18
into shepherd these two ladies, EO and Dakota through uh, the rigors of
2:42:26
the WWE universe. So we're gonna go ahead and put that in that this
2:42:35
is just gonna be, you know, like Dre had been pointing out that
2:42:37
there's gonna be some type of interference, whether it's wanted, unwanted, or
2:42:43
accidental, either by Dakota or by Bailey and costing EO a title shot here
2:42:52
or a shot at winning the title. Okay, all right, most onto
2:43:00
the possible main event Bad Bunny versus Damian Priest in a San Juan street fight.
2:43:13
Damian Priest in the main event. Uh, that's funny. Uh better
2:43:20
soak it all in, Damion, soak it all in. I assume we're
2:43:24
gonna have a lot of interference, you know, as much as is.
2:43:30
I wouldn't like any at all. I feel like the LBO is gonna interfere.
2:43:35
I feel like Judgment Day is gonna interfere. Hell, who knows,
2:43:39
maybe even Carlito will interfere. He's from Puerto Rico, he lives there,
2:43:43
that's his hometown. Who knows. Anything's possible. But I think the end
2:43:50
of the day, Bad Bunny is gonna get the wh I'm kind of excited
2:43:54
for the street fight. See how much of abating he's willing to take,
2:43:58
you know, how much Damian Priests is willing to dish out on him.
2:44:03
Uh? And also how much Damian Priests is gonna take. You know,
2:44:07
he's gonna take a majority of the beating. Uh. I guarantee it's gonna
2:44:13
be a lot of Kendoe sticks. Uh. I feel like they won't break
2:44:18
this Spanish announcers table table. This would been the one time they don't break
2:44:28
it out of respect. But great if they do a spot where they go
2:44:35
up to it and they're like no, no, don't they move over?
2:44:39
That would be funny if they if they if they act like they're gonna break
2:44:43
the Spanish announced when they're like no, no, no, and they gonna
2:44:45
break the North the American announced table. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah yeah,
2:44:50
So yeah for me, it's it's gonna be Bad Bunny uh dre oh
2:44:58
yeah, Bad Bunny's winning. He's the host, he's over as fuck,
2:45:01
and I mean he's they're superstar. So yeah, he's gonna win. What
2:45:07
I'm curious about is I'm wondering, I wonder if Damian Priests is gonna get
2:45:11
cheered as well because he's Puerto Rican, because he's Puerto Rican, or will
2:45:18
he get booed because he's the heel and because he's opposing Bad Bunny. I
2:45:22
could I could very much see the Puerto Rican crowd just cheering for everything just
2:45:28
because there's two of their own in a match, and they don't they don't
2:45:31
give a shit like who's beat whooping whose ass? They're cheering for all of
2:45:35
it, but maybe cheering a little bit louder for Bad Bunny obviously because he's
2:45:37
the baby face. But yeah, this is gonna be an entertainment spectacle.
2:45:43
We're gonna see, like you said, kendo sticks weapons out to ask Damian
2:45:48
priests. Is gonna raged all the shot out of Bad Bunny with power booze.
2:45:50
Bad Bunny's gonna get offense by putting in weapons and you know, an
2:45:56
occasional high flying move that he's able to pull off here and there. I
2:46:00
could see him putting priests through it an announced table with some sort of splash
2:46:05
from a turnbuckle or something of that nature. Yes, we're probably gonna see
2:46:07
interference from Judgment Day as well as LWO at some point. I can see
2:46:15
it happening. Well, okay, I was. I was momentarily hesitant because
2:46:20
some of the members of the other members of LWO are Mexican, and I
2:46:28
could and maybe that might not go over as well in Puerto Rico, but
2:46:35
you know, the Mexicans coming out. But I don't think that would be
2:46:37
in it. I don't think that would be an issue I think they're they're
2:46:39
gonna cheer because freaking you know, Dom's gonna come out there, who is
2:46:43
a super heal, and Fenn gonna bring his little pasty white ass out there,
2:46:48
and then Lwo gonna come out there and start whooping some ass and that'll
2:46:52
be you know, that'll get the crowd popping like a motherfucker. So yeah,
2:46:58
Bad Bundy's gonna win. It's gonna be entertainment spectacle and they'll this should
2:47:03
be the main event to close out the night on a high note. Do
2:47:09
well. Uh? I love how win? What's that tell? Men?
2:47:18
Win? Oh? No, no, no, uh but I love I
2:47:26
love how it's it's insert city, we're in street fight no matter what it
2:47:31
like, and that doesn't really mean anything. Uh. I wonder if there's
2:47:37
like and and and it's always um, you know, Chicago, New York,
2:47:41
Philly. Uh. I wonder if there's a list of of of of
2:47:48
no street fights at like you ever got like a uh Poughkeepsie street fight or
2:47:56
like des Moines street fight or uh a Wichita street fight? Yeah exactly.
2:48:03
You know. I wonder if it wasn't there a French Connecticut street fight.
2:48:09
Yeah, probably some mean street posse bullshit. Yeah, um yeah, I
2:48:16
mean you know, uh yeah, Bundy's definitely going over. Uh. Like
2:48:22
I said earlier, I think this there's gonna be a schmaz though of course
2:48:26
the lw I was gonna be involved quest the rest of the judgment day will
2:48:30
be involved. Uh. Like I said, I think this will end,
2:48:35
you know, the end. The last shot you will see is seven people
2:48:39
in a ring, always l w O shirts celebrating. You know. Um,
2:48:46
I could see uh you know, sometimes they'll they'll douce like a you
2:48:52
know, like a dark not a dark match, but a dark interview where
2:48:56
like somebody will come out and kind an interview then only the the audiences.
2:49:01
So I could see priests coming out before the show and doing cutting some kind
2:49:05
of heeled promo like you know, oh I got you know, I don't.
2:49:11
I don't live here, so I'm so much better than you or whatever,
2:49:15
you know, just to get the heat. Uh. But I mean,
2:49:18
Bad Bunny's gonna be so over anyway, you know, like, and
2:49:22
I think it'll probably be a testament to his popularity that even the other Puerto
2:49:28
Rican guy won't get cheered because Bad Bunny's gonna be so beloved. Um.
2:49:35
Yeah, he's gonna win. There's gonna be a crazy spot of some kind.
2:49:39
I don't know what it's gonna be, but those are gonna be a
2:49:41
crazy spot. I love that idea of the Spanish and out table specifically not
2:49:50
getting destroyed. I think that's great. M H. Carlos, It's here
2:49:58
for you. Yeah. I'm still trying to figure out what a San Juan
2:50:03
Puerto Rican street fight is about. Like, are they're gonna have some guys
2:50:09
walking around with like some type of Puerto Rican uh kendle stick or like they're
2:50:18
gonna have like some Puerto Rican uh them like chain chain link fans somewhere.
2:50:28
But uh, I guess we have to tune in on Saturday and find out.
2:50:35
Uh bat Bunny should take this down with help of d LWO, which
2:50:41
consists of rain mysterial Mexican Zelina Vega Puerto Rican. Uh. I forget the
2:50:52
other guy's name, Santos Esca bar Mexican U cru Cruiz de Toro I believe
2:51:00
is also Mexican, and then one Filipino that's in there. So how he's
2:51:05
part of the O w O I don't know, but um paying attention.
2:51:11
Yeah, he's like, you look hispanic just skin not black. Yea,
2:51:18
yeah, So I mean it's it's gonna it's gonna be one of these.
2:51:24
Uh yeah, send the crowd happy, thank you very much for coming out
2:51:28
here, and we'll be back in forty fifty years. Uh hopefully Puerto Rico
2:51:31
still here. Uh, climate change doesn't get to you, right, cool
2:51:39
guys. Well that's that's our predictions for for taglash. Backlash. Um really
2:51:48
uh, not too exciting. You know, I'm not like, not all
2:51:54
amped up and excited for this one, but most backlash pay per views aren't
2:51:58
that exciting. If you look at the history of them, and they all
2:52:01
happened right after WrestleMania. Not a lot of things change, you know.
2:52:07
Yeah, a lot of times they a lot of times they're usually just a
2:52:11
bunch of WrestleMania rematches. So problems to them for at least booking some different
2:52:16
matches. But who Yeah, yeah, they took the wrestle Mania out of
2:52:22
it, so it's not WrestleMania backlash anymore. Yeah, two years. I'm
2:52:26
glad that's ober. It's just regular backlash, correct. Yeah, Oh,
2:52:33
I got a trivia question. Uh, this wrestler will be wrestling on the
2:52:41
card, but he last time he wrestled Backlash was twenty years ago. Who
2:52:50
was this wrestler? Oh god, damn, it's gotta be Bobby Lashley because
2:52:54
he's probably the only one that was on the roster twenty years ago. Who
2:53:01
then, that has to be Barrock? Yeah, yeah, Brocks twenty over
2:53:09
twenty years ago is the last time he ever wrestled at a Backlash? Crazy?
2:53:13
That was with against Team Angle. Oh wow? Oh wow? After
2:53:18
after WrestleMania nineteen. Yeah, after after he won the title. So who
2:53:24
the hell did he team with against Team Angle? Oh? Let me sing
2:53:28
here? God oh Backlash? Oh I'm right here. Huh um? Scroll
2:53:41
down, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down? Uh brock Lesner?
2:53:50
Yeah, am I looking at the wrong one? I just saw it,
2:53:52
son of a bitch. Now I feel like a fool, a fool,
2:53:54
I say, oh wait, I'm looking at two thousand and four. Maybe
2:53:58
I should be looking at two three. Yeah, that's it, that's it.
2:54:05
I'm a dumb fuck all right, Team Angle Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Hass
2:54:11
defeated Oh no, that was when they financed Loos Carreras. I'm sorry,
2:54:16
Bros. Versus John Cena. Uh in a singles match for the w W
2:54:20
Championship. He defeated John Cena. That was before John Cena got his first
2:54:26
ww title win. Oh well before that's yeah. I think John Cena was
2:54:31
didn't he hadn't he just lost? Didn't he just lose the US title at
2:54:35
WrestleMania. Before this was this was Doctor of Thugonomics John Yeah, doctor Yeah
2:54:43
yeah yeah, twenty years ago? Holy shit? Um yeah, nobody else,
2:54:50
well, Raymonsteria was on that card. He uh defeated the Big Show
2:54:56
in three minutes and forty seven seconds. Yeah. Raid doesn't have a match
2:55:01
for this pay per view though. Yeah, he's gonna show up, show
2:55:05
up though. But it's as crazy to as two guys who are still oh
2:55:11
and Shelton Benjamin. You know they're still on the card here twenty years later.
2:55:16
But yeah, uh before we wrap this up, I have good news
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