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FridAI - Agents talking to Agents · Business Brain – The Entrepreneurs’ Podcast

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  Dave Hamilton: Business Brain, episode 799 for Casual Fried AI, October 23rd,
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  Dave Hamilton: National Slap Your Coworker Day.
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  Shannon Jean: Wow.
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  Dave Hamilton: Shannon, you ignorant—wait, no, that's not that kind of joke.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great—that's good. That's interesting.
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  Shannon Jean: That's an interesting—I don't know that that would work over very well.
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  Dave Hamilton: I don't think that that's going to—that's not—that wasn't created in 2026,
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  Dave Hamilton: was it? I don't think so. Let's see, where is it? Offering a tongue-in-cheek
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  Dave Hamilton: opportunity to address workplace frustrations.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah. Okay. So you're supposed to use this to find humorous ways to vent stress. So there you go.
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  Shannon Jean: By not slapping your...
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  Dave Hamilton: I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know. Greetings and welcome to Business Brain.
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  Dave Hamilton: We're the show where we take some ideas, we crunch them, we dissect them,
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  Dave Hamilton: we use them to tune our business brains and level up our charmed lives.
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  Dave Hamilton: For now, here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton.
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  Shannon Jean: And in Northern California, I am Shannon Jean. Happy Friday, I.
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  Dave Hamilton: Happy Friday I
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  Shannon Jean: I want to talk about a few things today, Dave.
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  Dave Hamilton: Same. I don't know where we're going to start.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah. Let's talk about agents, talking to other agents.
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  Dave Hamilton: Okay.
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  Shannon Jean: Right. Which I think, so I've been using, we all have, at least on this show,
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  Shannon Jean: and maybe our listeners too. But I've been playing around with agents a lot
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  Shannon Jean: in the last couple of months.
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  Shannon Jean: Instinct, GrokBot, Muse. I played with one this weekend, which I immediately deleted, called Hark.
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  Shannon Jean: That we can talk a little bit about too. Sure.
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  Shannon Jean: But often what I'm finding is as these agents try to do more for you,
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  Shannon Jean: some businesses online seem to be set up very well to receive these requests
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  Shannon Jean: and whatever and bookings and different stuff with your agent. Yep.
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  Shannon Jean: Many other services are not so well.
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  Shannon Jean: So you have to intervene, and it doesn't work. You have to actually pick up
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  Shannon Jean: the phone, call, whatever, do different things. But your agent says, hey, I can't.
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  Shannon Jean: They won't let me get past this barrier. Yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: I can't buy these things. I can't order this for you. I can't make this appointment.
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  Shannon Jean: So I thought it would be good to talk about, as business owners,
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  Shannon Jean: how do we prepare for the influx?
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  Shannon Jean: Because I think we mentioned it last Friday, I, that the vast majority of internet
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  Shannon Jean: traffic in the future will be agents talking to agents.
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  Dave Hamilton: Right? Yeah, I agree with that.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah. So how do we prepare our businesses online to receive those agents because we want them to…,
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  Shannon Jean: help us grow our business, right?
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  Dave Hamilton: I think it's, yeah. And it's, it's actually very easy to do this.
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  Dave Hamilton: Uh, I remember, I will rewind not that long ago, sometime over the summer.
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  Dave Hamilton: I can't remember the date, but I remember where I was.
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  Dave Hamilton: I was at, um, Mac stock, which is a conference.
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  Dave Hamilton: And it was, uh, during a session, there was a, it was like in between sessions
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  Dave Hamilton: and the session was about to start.
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  Dave Hamilton: And I was talking with one of our podcasters that, that we represent at Backbeat
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  Dave Hamilton: meeting we're talking about ai and stuff and i was like yeah okay and i had
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  Dave Hamilton: an idea and i sat down and i told claude i said hey uh
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  Dave Hamilton: build me an mcp connector for our back-end system we call it pod man for podcast
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  Dave Hamilton: manager it's just the thing that tracks everything and you know schedules everything
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  Dave Hamilton: so that people's agents could talk to our thing like you know
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  Dave Hamilton: and and i said go and then i didn't close my laptop because you know it was
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  Dave Hamilton: busy building this thing uh
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  Dave Hamilton: but i just you know like put the lid down
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  Dave Hamilton: I wasn't watching it i wasn't handing holding its hand through it i wasn't answering
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  Dave Hamilton: questions other than the initial it was like how do you want to do this do you
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  Dave Hamilton: want it to be read only at first like it asked a couple of very basic questions and i
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  Dave Hamilton: answered quickly in about five seconds and then you know half closed the lid
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  Dave Hamilton: on my laptop and watched the session engaged with the session
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  Dave Hamilton: and then when the session was over 30 minutes later i lifted up my laptop And
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  Dave Hamilton: it was like, yeah, I'm ready to push this, you know, to the server if you are. And I'm like, yeah, go.
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  Dave Hamilton: And that day was the day that we had an agent, you know, an agent compatible, an agent friendly.
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  Dave Hamilton: Scenario where your agent can interact and do everything that you could do with
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  Dave Hamilton: this and it makes your life way easier if you're one of our broadcasters by
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  Dave Hamilton: the way it also makes your life easy if you're one of the sales people too because
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  Dave Hamilton: guess what we built it for everything you know
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  Dave Hamilton: yeah right and and that to me seemed like such and but my point was
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  Dave Hamilton: your there is of all the things that you can use ai to build for you having
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  Dave Hamilton: it build for you a thing for itself to access your system
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  Dave Hamilton: it doesn't need much from you to do that it knows what it's going to want and
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  Dave Hamilton: what other agents are going to want right correct you don't have to like think
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  Dave Hamilton: about wow i don't even know how to do this neither do i by the way ask
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah ask your whatever ai you're.
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  Dave Hamilton: Using like what better thing to build you wouldn't want a human building that
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  Dave Hamilton: for an ai no let it build it for itself and other things like it and it like
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  Dave Hamilton: it's working like it's such a great i built it that day and it's done yeah
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  Shannon Jean: There's you know there's.
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  Dave Hamilton: All and yes people have to log in it's not you know it built an authentication
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  Dave Hamilton: workflow and all that stuff so yeah yeah it's private and all the things yeah
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  Dave Hamilton: in fact it found some holes in our authentication workflow that day too that
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  Dave Hamilton: we fixed that's great yeah yeah and
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  Shannon Jean: It's it's it's it's not difficult and i think it's just going to become more
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  Shannon Jean: and more necessary because what i find is what i'm using,
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  Shannon Jean: one of my agents and i say hey go do this do that it comes back and when it
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  Shannon Jean: hits a roadblock i'm immediately thinking okay where else can we go where else can we get this thing,
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  Shannon Jean: where else can i book this service like i don't,
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  Shannon Jean: Like, I don't want to pick up the phone to call to make a reservation or to do whatever.
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  Shannon Jean: I'm just not going to do that anymore. I don't have time. No. I don't want to.
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  Shannon Jean: Let me rephrase that. I do not wish to use my time to do those things anymore.
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  Dave Hamilton: Love that. Right? You do have the time. You're just choosing to use it your own way.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah. That's a whole other topic for a show because I've been using that phrase more.
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  Dave Hamilton: I like that phrase.
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  Shannon Jean: It puts you more in control and you get to decide what you spend your time on.
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  Shannon Jean: And these are just tools, just like your calculator and your smartphone.
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  Shannon Jean: And, you know, you want to be able to use them. So that's the number one thing
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  Shannon Jean: I would look at if as a small business owner on your website,
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  Shannon Jean: how do we integrate this to other agents as people?
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  Shannon Jean: Because especially like Muse, it's going to blow up agents because there's a
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  Shannon Jean: gazillion Facebook users, right? Yep.
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  Shannon Jean: And it's an easy, very accessible agent, and it's pinging all these sites that,
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  Shannon Jean: hey, I want to book this. I want to do this. People are testing it.
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  Shannon Jean: You need to make your site and your service compatible.
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  Dave Hamilton: We're going to Quebec City after Thanksgiving. Actually, we're going for Thanksgiving
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  Dave Hamilton: this year, it turns out. Nice. Yeah, yeah, whatever.
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  Dave Hamilton: But as soon as we plan the trip, it's just my wife and my son and I, and me, rather.
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  Dave Hamilton: And uh we like all got told our agents like we're going that we and we used
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  Dave Hamilton: it to find our airbnb too of course like of course but once it was booked it
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  Dave Hamilton: was like all right we'll go and like find me the things to do
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  Dave Hamilton: book me dinners do this do this and the things that it like you said that the
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  Dave Hamilton: the services that it is blocked from doing unless it's something that's super important to us yeah
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  Dave Hamilton: we're we're just going to navigate around those we're not going to use them
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  Dave Hamilton: i wanted to buy there's a certain brand of salsa that we found that we really
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  Dave Hamilton: like. It's called Somos, S-O-M-O-S.
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  Dave Hamilton: And I used to be able to buy it directly from Somos. They aren't selling it direct anymore.
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  Dave Hamilton: They're out of stock of it or something. And Muse can't really work with Amazon
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  Dave Hamilton: all that well, although it's pretty good at finding ways around that.
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  Dave Hamilton: But it was like, I found it over on Walmart.
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  Dave Hamilton: Is that okay? I'm like, I don't care.
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  Dave Hamilton: I don't care where it is now. In a week, I want it at my house. Like, that's it.
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  Shannon Jean: It's a really interesting comment that you make because the agents,
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  Shannon Jean: I think you're going to become more, when I say brand, site,
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  Shannon Jean: store, whatever, agnostic.
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  Shannon Jean: And the agent is going to make the decision like, look, I want a great deal, but I need to get it here.
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  Shannon Jean: Just buy it. If you have my credit card, just do it.
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  Dave Hamilton: Just do it. Yeah. And this is, I understand why Amazon is being resistant to
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  Dave Hamilton: it. And I think your comment just now shines a light on exactly why.
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  Dave Hamilton: For so long, all of our purchases have started with, can I get it on Amazon?
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  Dave Hamilton: And if the answer is yes, you're done.
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  Shannon Jean: Easy.
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  Dave Hamilton: Right, because it's easy. And if the answer is no, then you start hunting around
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  Dave Hamilton: and where else could I get it?
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  Dave Hamilton: But now that we have these agents doing it, it doesn't matter.
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  Dave Hamilton: And that's why Amazon's blocking this because they know right now,
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  Dave Hamilton: most of us are still in the habit of buying on Amazon.
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  Dave Hamilton: I think it's short-sighted of them. Yeah. Unless, unless they are planning to
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  Dave Hamilton: release their own agent that's not only for Amazon. Like if they can release,
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  Dave Hamilton: like if Rufus, which is what they call their thing.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah, whatever it is. Alexa for shopping or whatever.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah, but if they release Rufus as an app on your phone that can do everything
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  Dave Hamilton: and also, oh, by the way, buy your stuff and has access to Amazon.
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  Dave Hamilton: But if it is your agent that can be your agent first, then Amazon could win.
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  Dave Hamilton: And candidly, if they don't offer that within a month or two,
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  Dave Hamilton: I think they've missed out.
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  Dave Hamilton: So I'm curious to see what happens. Black Friday is coming.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah. And if you have a Shopify store, they're like embracing it in a heartbeat.
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  Dave Hamilton: Of course they are. They know that they have an opportunity here. Yeah. Super smart.
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  Shannon Jean: And it's kind of like if you look at Salesforce, they now offer a completely
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  Shannon Jean: headless version of their software, meaning they don't care.
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  Shannon Jean: You can access the data any way you want. You don't have to go through our client,
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  Shannon Jean: our site, whatever it is.
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  Shannon Jean: I think the next step is these stores are going to have to do the same thing.
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  Shannon Jean: And it's great to see Shopify embrace that.
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  Dave Hamilton: I agree. I think it's great. Yeah, it's smart. But also, Shopify is not the
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  Dave Hamilton: number one place people go to buy things. Correct. So this is how they're competing.
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  Shannon Jean: Yes, it's smart.
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  Dave Hamilton: It all makes sense. Right. It makes sense why Amazon is resisting.
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  Dave Hamilton: It makes sense why Shopify is embracing.
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  Shannon Jean: It's funny to see because Amazon disrupted so many people, but there's always
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  Shannon Jean: something coming along to disrupt the disruptor.
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  Dave Hamilton: Right? Unless it's you. Unless you disrupted yourself first. Yes. I agree.
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  Dave Hamilton: And again, maybe Amazon's got that plan in the works.
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  Dave Hamilton: I would assume they do.
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  Dave Hamilton: So we've talked on the show about having a chief of staff agent, right?
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  Dave Hamilton: It's one of the things that GrokBot tells you to do during the onboarding process,
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  Dave Hamilton: right? And it's a great idea.
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  Dave Hamilton: But, of course, the GrokBot agent or the agent, if you did one in Instinct or
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  Dave Hamilton: if you did one in Instinct, it's more difficult to do it with just because of
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  Dave Hamilton: the way the flow is. But I guess if you did it in Slack, you could or Muse or whatever.
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  Dave Hamilton: Um they see what they see inside their own platform yep if you're using chat
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  Dave Hamilton: gpt or claude or perplexity or whatever
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  Dave Hamilton: your grokbot chief of staff doesn't actually see any of that stuff unless you share it with it right
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  Dave Hamilton: uh i told claude the other day i have so many different projects in claude claude
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  Dave Hamilton: code and like all the co-work stuff and everything that i do there
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  Dave Hamilton: you know i told it the other day i was like hey build me i want a chief of staff
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  Dave Hamilton: i need something that is aware of all of the things i'm doing
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  Dave Hamilton: and isn't is going to keep me from losing track of the things because i'll have
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  Dave Hamilton: a great idea and i'll go deep and like dig in but then
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  Shannon Jean: You go back and you're like wait.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah where is even if i remember about like i'll go and i'll spend 20 minutes
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  Dave Hamilton: on something it's like okay this is great like like let's do this later or whatever
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  Dave Hamilton: and then it's like where is that and and the interface doesn't really make that
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  Dave Hamilton: great so i have a chief of i i had claude build itself a chief of staff the
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  Dave Hamilton: other day it's it's it's better than not having it is
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  Dave Hamilton: my experience with it it's not perfect it really doesn't see everything uh that's
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  Dave Hamilton: inside its own ecosystem there which is somewhat frustrating
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  Dave Hamilton: but it's there now
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  Dave Hamilton: Well, there's an add-on to this, but thoughts on this? Have you done anything
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  Dave Hamilton: like this other than the GrokBot one?
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  Shannon Jean: Only chief of staff I have is in GrokBot, and it's amazing because it does have
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  Shannon Jean: visibility into every other bot.
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  Shannon Jean: I don't spin up a new bot. I always go to the chief of staff and let it do it.
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  Dave Hamilton: That's interesting.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah, I always say, hey, I have this problem, and we were talking about it earlier.
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  Shannon Jean: It's like, I need to, like, Grokbot just got access to all your DMs on X.
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  Shannon Jean: And my DMs are out of control.
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  Shannon Jean: I can't get back to them. And we were talking about organization is a problem, right?
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  Shannon Jean: And consistency. And so I went to my chief of staff and I said,
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  Shannon Jean: I read today that you now can access my DMs.
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  Shannon Jean: How should we do this? I need somebody to help manage my DMs.
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  Shannon Jean: And it goes, great, I'm going to spin up a DM bot for you, for X.
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  Shannon Jean: And it will keep track of your DMs. It will remind you of new messages that come in.
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  Shannon Jean: It will suggest responses and you can okay them.
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  Shannon Jean: And so it's tracking all those messages for me so I don't have to go look at
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  Shannon Jean: my DMs because it's a flood of, it's not productive.
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  Dave Hamilton: It's not, no, it's, it's, it's impossible. Right. Yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: It's impossible. So it tracks it and you can do the same thing with YouTube.
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  Shannon Jean: I built a, uh, called YouTube desk that say, but I always start in the chief
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  Shannon Jean: of staff. I don't know if that's the right way to do it.
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  Dave Hamilton: No, I like this. I'm glad, I'm glad we're having this conversation because I
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  Dave Hamilton: have not been doing that. Right. I've been using Claude the way that I've always
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  Dave Hamilton: used it, where I just fire up a new chat. I put it in the, you know,
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  Dave Hamilton: in a project or something. Yeah.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah. And, but I'm not starting with the chief of staff and maybe that I'm going to try maybe that's the
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  Shannon Jean: Link that maybe.
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  Dave Hamilton: That's yeah maybe if it knows that it started then and it did give me it was
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  Dave Hamilton: interesting it it said no I can probably see everything but if there's something
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  Dave Hamilton: specific you want me to do I've created you a chief of staff skill
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  Dave Hamilton: and it's slash cos and if I type slash cos in a chat I can add notes or whatever
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  Dave Hamilton: and and so it's like okay like I get this like Like, yeah,
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  Dave Hamilton: But I got to I got to look into that now along those same lines.
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  Dave Hamilton: There are apps out there that can see everything you do on your computer.
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  Dave Hamilton: And I started using one recently. They reached out to me because we,
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  Dave Hamilton: you know, we talk about AI all the time.
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  Dave Hamilton: It's an app called Project Mini Me.
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  Dave Hamilton: Uh, and they did give me, they gave me an account. I don't know if it's free
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  Dave Hamilton: or what, but you know, like I'm not paying for it. I don't know if it's free for any of you.
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  Dave Hamilton: Uh, it's called project mini me M I N I M I.
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  Dave Hamilton: And, uh, and it is something you give it on your Mac. You give it through access to three things.
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  Dave Hamilton: Your and there is definitely a a psa beware here uh you give it access to your
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  Dave Hamilton: microphone your speakers
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  Dave Hamilton: maybe four things actually your microphone your system audio so they can hear
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  Dave Hamilton: what sound is being played back for you and your
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  Dave Hamilton: um screen so it can it can screen share it can just see everything on your screen
• 19:48
  Dave Hamilton: okay now it does have a privacy feature in it where you can tell it, do not
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  Dave Hamilton: Uh you know monitor this app right okay that's good okay so if anything i do in that app
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  Dave Hamilton: you're not gonna you're not gonna log it can see it the system you you have
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  Dave Hamilton: you've told your system to allow it to see it so you're trusting that the app
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  Dave Hamilton: is doing what i'm gonna log it built to you yeah if it's not making a mistake essentially which
• 20:14
  Dave Hamilton: ai makes mistakes all the time with things like this so bear this in mind um
• 20:20
  Dave Hamilton: And then because your browser you can't like if you tell it to block your browser
• 20:25
  Dave Hamilton: well then it's not going to see anything in your browser
• 20:27
  Dave Hamilton: you can tell it specific urls if i am at this url or at this domain or whatever
• 20:32
  Dave Hamilton: don't follow me yeah you know don't don't do that so you can put your bank in
• 20:36
  Dave Hamilton: you can put you know whatever you want
• 20:38
  Dave Hamilton: i highly if you do these things i highly recommend your password managers
• 20:43
  Dave Hamilton: right you're you know because you don't want it capturing that
• 20:46
  Dave Hamilton: anywhere that you're going to have passwords or api keys or anything like that
• 20:50
  Dave Hamilton: don't let it see those things
• 20:53
  Dave Hamilton: i'm certain that i am streaming all of everything that happens on my computer
• 20:56
  Dave Hamilton: to china you know that's just how that's working because that's where you're
• 20:59
  Dave Hamilton: going to get the cheapest models i know it like when i build things like this
• 21:02
  Dave Hamilton: that's what i use so it's fine you know um
• 21:06
  Dave Hamilton: so there's there's definitely a you know eyes wide open folks here and and even with that
• 21:11
  Dave Hamilton: think about the things you're not going to think about sure i asked claude i'm
• 21:15
  Dave Hamilton: like what do you think about this and it was like all right here's the things
• 21:17
  Dave Hamilton: you should block based on what i know about you and it was like oh i didn't
• 21:20
  Dave Hamilton: think about that website it's like yep yeah that's good yeah but
• 21:24
  Dave Hamilton: it's really cool because it is just literally watching and listening over your
• 21:29
  Dave Hamilton: shoulder all day long non-stop yeah
• 21:33
  Shannon Jean: It was like that it was an app a while back called limitless same kind of thing
• 21:36
  Shannon Jean: that would monitor or rewind they.
• 21:39
  Dave Hamilton: Call it okay where you can have
• 21:40
  Shannon Jean: Anything on your desktop it i find those helpful too but i i bring us back to the chief of staff.
• 21:46
  Dave Hamilton: Yeah, I mean, this is my chief of staff now, right?
• 21:49
  Shannon Jean: It's your chief of staff.
• 21:49
  Dave Hamilton: Yeah. It's very much that. You have one
• 21:51
  Shannon Jean: Spot that's like a hub for all this stuff. I find it very helpful.
• 21:59
  Shannon Jean: And I, you know...
• 22:00
  Shannon Jean: I think, you know, I'm kind of spread out on these different agents and I'm going to solidify.
• 22:06
  Shannon Jean: I lean more to, you know, GrokBot because it's so useful. And when I wake up
• 22:10
  Shannon Jean: in the morning, it's got all this stuff for me that I've been working on at night.
• 22:14
  Shannon Jean: It just keeps delivering and reminds, like all during the day,
• 22:17
  Shannon Jean: it's monitoring my content and making suggestions about comments and about this.
• 22:22
  Shannon Jean: You should do this. This is so good, man. Sure. It's really, really good.
• 22:25
  Dave Hamilton: I like it. Yep. Yeah. You need something. And I really think that what this
• 22:30
  Dave Hamilton: mini-me is doing is the model.
• 22:33
  Dave Hamilton: And again, I love that Apple just rolled out all their AI stuff and this leapfrogs them in a heartbeat.
• 22:44
  Shannon Jean: Yeah, they broke my heart.
• 22:48
  Dave Hamilton: If they make everybody wait a year for Apple to be able to do this,
• 22:55
  Dave Hamilton: it's too long. They can't keep doing this. They need to be faster.
• 22:59
  Shannon Jean: I think they need to acquire, just like XAI or SpaceX AI, whatever, acquired Cursor.
• 23:06
  Shannon Jean: And that's what accelerated them to be able to build GrokBot.
• 23:09
  Shannon Jean: It's Cursor. When you post into Slack from GrokBot, it says posted by Cursor. Yeah. You know, so-
• 23:15
  Shannon Jean: Apple should definitely, you know, they've got to do something.
• 23:18
  Shannon Jean: The hardware's great. We all love it.
• 23:20
  Shannon Jean: But Siri's, you know, not the best. Not the best. Not the best.
• 23:25
  Dave Hamilton: Not the best. We also have to make sure not to say that word on our podcast.
• 23:29
  Dave Hamilton: No, it was fine. It was smarter up until iOS 27.
• 23:35
  Dave Hamilton: And now it's less specific, right, in its tuning. Yeah.
• 23:41
  Dave Hamilton: So your voice, a year ago, your voice saying, yes, lady, wouldn't have triggered my phone.
• 23:47
  Dave Hamilton: Now, Apple does a thing when they do their events where they carve an EQ segment
• 23:53
  Dave Hamilton: out of that word every time so that it won't trigger people's phones. Doesn't work. Wow.
• 23:59
  Dave Hamilton: Even that doesn't work now. Yeah. So, like, we've had people write into Mac
• 24:04
  Dave Hamilton: Geekab where they're like, you said it, and it stopped my phone, right?
• 24:09
  Dave Hamilton: From you know they're like on car player whatever so they're playing it back
• 24:12
  Dave Hamilton: yeah it it hears it it pauses they don't respond because they're like nope wasn't
• 24:17
  Dave Hamilton: me and it rewinds 10 seconds and plays it again again they get into a loop oh my gosh
• 24:24
  Dave Hamilton: that's like dude that's ridiculous yeah so uh yeah but yes apple anyway
• 24:32
  Shannon Jean: Uh i think the big we're talking about the big takeaway we have at the end of
• 24:35
  Shannon Jean: every show we always like what's the most important thing that stuck out to me or today.
• 24:38
  Shannon Jean: For me, it's preparing your business to accept the influx of agents,
• 24:45
  Shannon Jean: whether you're on your website, your phone system, whatever it is,
• 24:49
  Shannon Jean: because it's coming. We're at early days.
• 24:52
  Shannon Jean: Everybody and their grandma is going to have some sort of agent on their phone
• 24:56
  Shannon Jean: that's going to be trying to connect and buy from you or book your service.
• 25:00
  Shannon Jean: And I think the time to get ready for it is now.
• 25:03
  Dave Hamilton: I don't disagree that that's important.
• 25:05
  Dave Hamilton: I do disagree that it is the most important thing we talked about.
• 25:09
  Dave Hamilton: I think having that chief of staff agent is going to level up your AI world
• 25:14
  Dave Hamilton: more than anything else. So that would be my... Sure. Well, that's okay.
• 25:19
  Shannon Jean: We're doing both.
• 25:20
  Dave Hamilton: Oh, we could do them both. That's true.
• 25:21
  Shannon Jean: We'll do them both. We'll do a business plan blueprint that we call them for
• 25:26
  Shannon Jean: each of these. You can find them at businessbrain.show slash blueprints.
• 25:30
  Shannon Jean: You can download those and get access to the hundreds of other ones that we
• 25:33
  Shannon Jean: have from previous episodes.
• 25:35
  Shannon Jean: And as always, we appreciate your support. Glad to have you here.
• 25:38
  Dave Hamilton: Thanks for hanging out, folks. Fun stuff. Feedback at businessbrain.show or
• 25:42
  Dave Hamilton: comment on the socials, and we'll see you there. Have a great weekend.
• 25:45
  Dave Hamilton: Keep on living that charmed life.
• 25:47
  Shannon Jean: See ya.